Shani Maharaj in the 9th house

March 5, 2008

Daer Sir,

Namaskaar, I m sure and source of my information abt Sri Ramkrishna's

taking up Islam for a small period is only Sri RamkKrishna Leelamrit

and SriRamkrishna Charitamrit, one is published by Sri Ramkrishna

Mission and the other one is written by Roma Rola (dont know how to

correctly spell his name)

I have studied 4 - 5 biographies of Paramhansha, it's given

everywhere, it was Thakur, who told Vivekanada that Juesu's nose was

not straight, when Viekanada went to west, in one of the library he

got a pic drawn by hand like protrait, Jesus nose was like that only.

Maata Aannada Mai had not taken Sanyas or Vanaprasthashrama, she had

no Guru also in real sense, (m not sure), She did not follow her

grihasta dharam and even her husband for 8 years turned like her

sishya, who was enough elder to her.

Once maa happened to know she is a soul like God and then never

looked back to worldly affairs.

regards,

Lalit.

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar

<sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

>

> Dear Lalit,

>

> I think this is a sweeping statement. Are you certain Ramakrishna

> Paramahamsa converted to either Christianity or Islam? What is the

> source of this information?

>

> By the way study of other Dharmas is not giving up one's own dharma

nor

> is change of ashram a change of Dharma. If we assume it to be so

then

> all ancient kings who took Vanaprasthashrama will have to be

labeled as

> having changed their Dharma. I think that would not be correct.

What is

> your opinion?

>

> Take care,

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> litsol wrote:

> >

> > Dear Aavesh Sir and Mr. Gopu,

> >

> > I w'd like to put one observation on Sani's placement on 9'th, If

> > Sani is there on 9'th, At least once in life, the person changes

> > his/her defined dharma, though Sani is exalted in Bhagwan Sri

> > RamKrishna Paramhansha's horoscope, He switched to Islam and

> > Christianity, Same is true with Maata Aanadmai, she also changed

her

> > Grihastha dharma and went to Sanyaasa.

> >

> > I know one more Girl, whom i once liked, Vandana, has also got

Saturn

> > in 9'th and she has strong inclination to appreciate other

religions

> > than her own, she is much influenced by Islamic Sufi system.

> >

> > I dont know what happened in case of Mr. Gopu, he w'd also have

> > better connection with or influence of some body who is averse to

Mr.

> > Gopu's defined dharma by tradition or inheritance. However, This

is

> > not a matured finding coz whole of horoscope is not known.

> >

> > Also It's established now that 10'th house + Sun combo should be

> > taken for judgement of the affairs related to one's Father. In

some

> > cases, 9'th can successfully indicate Father's influence on a

native

> > coz Father is also a natural Guru or Preceptor to a child.

> >

> > If required we can go for a comparision of 9'th + Sun and 10'th +

Sun

> > combos.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit

> >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing

> > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, aavesh t

> > <aavesh_s@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mr Gopu,

> > >

> > > Thanks for your input on this thread

> > >

> > > A small confusion: How can Shani Maharaj in 9th be in a

> > Dusthana ??

> > > (as you have mentioned in your mail)

> > >

> > > Kindly clarify

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > aavesh

> > >

> > > K Gopu <kgopu_24@> wrote:

> > > dear Mr.aavesh,

> > > saturn in the 9th if it is in a dustana house in a

> > > native it can also affect the coborn because of its

> > > aspect on the 3rd house from the lagna.

> > > I have saturn in the 9th from my vrichika lagna. My

> > > younger brother died at the age of 3yrs and also my

> > > relationship with my late father was also not so good.

> > > I am sharing my life experience.

> > >

> > > good luck,

> > > k.gopu

> > >

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March 6, 2008

Namaste Chandrashekarji,Saaji and Lalit 'WISH YOU A HAPPY SHIVARATRI' My 2 cents on the issue under discussion: Shri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa DID NOT CONVERT his religion.He was a 'Sadhak' in the true sense of the term. He tried methods enunciated by different religions to attain God.He succeded in each one of them !! For

a spiritual giant of the caliber of Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa religion had absolutely no significance !! Regards, aavesh Saaji Bhaskaran <saajik wrote: namaste Chandrashekhar ji,I read some where that Sri Ramakrishna gone through Islam and he found that its possible to realise God through Islam also. Charistainity I dont know.Best regards,Saaji BhaskaranVedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar

<sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:>> Dear Lalit,> > I think this is a sweeping statement. Are you certain Ramakrishna > Paramahamsa converted to either Christianity or Islam? What is the > source of this information?> > By the way study of other Dharmas is not giving up one's own dharma nor > is change of ashram a change of Dharma. If we assume it to be so then > all ancient kings who took Vanaprasthashrama will have to be labeled as > having changed their Dharma. I think that would not be correct. What is > your opinion?> > Take care,> Chandrashekhar.> > litsol wrote:> >> > Dear Aaves h Sir and Mr. Gopu,> >> > I w'd like to put one observation on Sani's placement on 9'th, If> > Sani is there on 9'th, At least once in life, the person changes> > his/her defined

dharma, though Sani is exalted in Bhagwan Sri> > RamKrishna Paramhansha's horoscope, He switched to Islam and> > Christianity, Same is true with Maata Aanadmai, she also changed her> > Grihastha dharma and went to Sanyaasa.> >> > I know one more Girl, whom i once liked, Vandana, has also got Saturn> > in 9'th and she has strong inclination to appreciate other religions> > than her own, she is much influenced by Islamic Sufi system.> >> > I dont know what happened in case of Mr. Gopu, he w'd also have> > better connection with or influence of some body who is averse to Mr.> > Gopu's defined dharma by tradition or inheritance. However, This is> > not a matured finding coz whole of horoscope is not known.> >> > Also It's established now that 10'th house + Sun combo should be> > taken for judgement of the

affairs related to one's Father. In some> > cases, 9'th can successfully indicate Father's influence on a native> > coz Father is also a natural Guru or Preceptor to a child.> >> > If required we can go for a comparision of 9'th + Sun and 10'th + Sun> > combos.> >> > regards,> > Lalit> >> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40 >, aavesh t> > <aavesh_s@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Mr Gopu,> > >> > > Thanks for your input on this thread> > >> > > A small confusion: How can Shani Maharaj in 9th be in a> > Dusthana ??> > > (as you have mentioned in your mail)> > >> >

> Kindly clarify> > >> > > Regards,> > >> > > aavesh> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > K Gopu <kgopu_24@> wrote:> > > dear Mr.aavesh,> > > saturn in the 9th if it is in a dustana house in a> > > native it can also affect the coborn because of its> > > aspect on the 3rd house from the lagna.> > > I have saturn in the 9th from my v richika lagna. My> > > younger brother died at the age of 3yrs and also my> > > relationship with my late father was also not so good.> > > I am sharing my life experience.> > >> > > good luck,> > > k.gopu> > >> > > ________> > > Looking for last minute shopping

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March 6, 2008

Dear Aavesh Sir,

Thanks very much for ur greetings on mahashivratri, You have made us

correct, Yes, Thakur was a sadhaka and tried islamic ways of sadhana

to realize the God.

But while looking to chart, for the astrology sake, we should accept

that Saturn/Rahu in 9'th causes one to have deep interest in a

different dharma.

I have seen it in 3 horoscopes, this way we can find a clue to

conversions through the horoscopes, I think if Guru in 12'th house,

one gets urge to criticize his own religion depending upon other

combos.

Aavsh Sir, I want u to express ur views on what Sri P.S Ramnarain Ji

has stated for exaltation giving Sun's example.

I think there is a lot to learn and consider, particularly, the

shashtaynsha thing.

regards,

Lalit.

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , aavesh t

<aavesh_s wrote:

>

> Namaste Chandrashekarji,Saaji and Lalit

>

> 'WISH YOU A HAPPY SHIVARATRI'

>

> My 2 cents on the issue under discussion:

>

> Shri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa DID NOT CONVERT his religion.He was

a 'Sadhak' in the true sense of the term.

>

> He tried methods enunciated by different religions to attain

God.He succeded in each one of them !!

>

> For a spiritual giant of the caliber of Sri Ramakrishna

Paramahamsa

> religion had absolutely no significance !!

>

> Regards,

>

> aavesh

>

> Saaji Bhaskaran <saajik wrote:

> namaste Chandrashekhar ji,

>

> I read some where that Sri Ramakrishna gone through Islam and he

> found that its possible to realise God through Islam also.

> Charistainity I dont know.

>

> Best regards,

>

> Saaji Bhaskaran

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar

> <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Lalit,

> >

> > I think this is a sweeping statement. Are you certain Ramakrishna

> > Paramahamsa converted to either Christianity or Islam? What is

the

> > source of this information?

> >

> > By the way study of other Dharmas is not giving up one's own

dharma

> nor

> > is change of ashram a change of Dharma. If we assume it to be so

> then

> > all ancient kings who took Vanaprasthashrama will have to be

> labeled as

> > having changed their Dharma. I think that would not be correct.

> What is

> > your opinion?

> >

> > Take care,

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > litsol wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Aaves h Sir and Mr. Gopu,

> > >

> > > I w'd like to put one observation on Sani's placement on 9'th,

If

> > > Sani is there on 9'th, At least once in life, the person changes

> > > his/her defined dharma, though Sani is exalted in Bhagwan Sri

> > > RamKrishna Paramhansha's horoscope, He switched to Islam and

> > > Christianity, Same is true with Maata Aanadmai, she also

changed

> her

> > > Grihastha dharma and went to Sanyaasa.

> > >

> > > I know one more Girl, whom i once liked, Vandana, has also got

> Saturn

> > > in 9'th and she has strong inclination to appreciate other

> religions

> > > than her own, she is much influenced by Islamic Sufi system.

> > >

> > > I dont know what happened in case of Mr. Gopu, he w'd also have

> > > better connection with or influence of some body who is averse

to

> Mr.

> > > Gopu's defined dharma by tradition or inheritance. However,

This

> is

> > > not a matured finding coz whole of horoscope is not known.

> > >

> > > Also It's established now that 10'th house + Sun combo should be

> > > taken for judgement of the affairs related to one's Father. In

> some

> > > cases, 9'th can successfully indicate Father's influence on a

> native

> > > coz Father is also a natural Guru or Preceptor to a child.

> > >

> > > If required we can go for a comparision of 9'th + Sun and 10'th

+

> Sun

> > > combos.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit

> > >

> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing

> > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40 >, aavesh t

> > > <aavesh_s@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mr Gopu,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for your input on this thread

> > > >

> > > > A small confusion: How can Shani Maharaj in 9th be in a

> > > Dusthana ??

> > > > (as you have mentioned in your mail)

> > > >

> > > > Kindly clarify

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > aavesh

> > > >

> > > > K Gopu <kgopu_24@> wrote:

> > > > dear Mr.aavesh,

> > > > saturn in the 9th if it is in a dustana house in a

> > > > native it can also affect the coborn because of its

> > > > aspect on the 3rd house from the lagna.

> > > > I have saturn in the 9th from my v richika lagna. My

> > > > younger brother died at the age of 3yrs and also my

> > > > relationship with my late father was also not so good.

> > > > I am sharing my life experience.

> > > >

> > > > good luck,

> > > > k.gopu

> > > >

> > > > ________

> > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals?

> > > > Find them fast with Search.

> > > http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?

> category=shopping

> > > <http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?

> category=shopping>

> > > >

> > > & gt;

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March 6, 2008

Dear aavesh ji,

Happy Shivaratri to you too. I did vrata yesterday, I mean for me,

Shivaratri was yesterday.

Thank you. I didnt say Sri Ramakrishna * converted * to Islam. I

said " gone through Islam " , which I meant same. Conversion is for

those who keep religion a trade. When God is only one, one is free to

worship any one or mulitple ways and at the end of the day what

matters is whether one can progress in it. This is my view, to put in

short.

Best regards,

Saaji Bhaskaran

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , aavesh t

<aavesh_s wrote:

>

> Namaste Chandrashekarji,Saaji and Lalit

>

> 'WISH YOU A HAPPY SHIVARATRI'

>

> My 2 cents on the issue under discussion:

>

> Shri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa DID NOT CONVERT his religion.He was

a 'Sadhak' in the true sense of the term.

>

> He tried methods enunciated by different religions to attain

God.He succeded in each one of them !!

>

> For a spiritual giant of the caliber of Sri Ramakrishna

Paramahamsa

> religion had absolutely no significance !!

>

> Regards,

>

> aavesh

>

> Saaji Bhaskaran <saajik wrote:

> namaste Chandrashekhar ji,

>

> I read some where that Sri Ramakrishna gone through Islam and he

> found that its possible to realise God through Islam also.

> Charistainity I dont know.

>

> Best regards,

>

> Saaji Bhaskaran

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar

> <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Lalit,

> >

> > I think this is a sweeping statement. Are you certain Ramakrishna

> > Paramahamsa converted to either Christianity or Islam? What is

the

> > source of this information?

> >

> > By the way study of other Dharmas is not giving up one's own

dharma

> nor

> > is change of ashram a change of Dharma. If we assume it to be so

> then

> > all ancient kings who took Vanaprasthashrama will have to be

> labeled as

> > having changed their Dharma. I think that would not be correct.

> What is

> > your opinion?

> >

> > Take care,

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > litsol wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Aaves h Sir and Mr. Gopu,

> > >

> > > I w'd like to put one observation on Sani's placement on 9'th,

If

> > > Sani is there on 9'th, At least once in life, the person changes

> > > his/her defined dharma, though Sani is exalted in Bhagwan Sri

> > > RamKrishna Paramhansha's horoscope, He switched to Islam and

> > > Christianity, Same is true with Maata Aanadmai, she also

changed

> her

> > > Grihastha dharma and went to Sanyaasa.

> > >

> > > I know one more Girl, whom i once liked, Vandana, has also got

> Saturn

> > > in 9'th and she has strong inclination to appreciate other

> religions

> > > than her own, she is much influenced by Islamic Sufi system.

> > >

> > > I dont know what happened in case of Mr. Gopu, he w'd also have

> > > better connection with or influence of some body who is averse

to

> Mr.

> > > Gopu's defined dharma by tradition or inheritance. However,

This

> is

> > > not a matured finding coz whole of horoscope is not known.

> > >

> > > Also It's established now that 10'th house + Sun combo should be

> > > taken for judgement of the affairs related to one's Father. In

> some

> > > cases, 9'th can successfully indicate Father's influence on a

> native

> > > coz Father is also a natural Guru or Preceptor to a child.

> > >

> > > If required we can go for a comparision of 9'th + Sun and 10'th

+

> Sun

> > > combos.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit

> > >

> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing

> > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40 >, aavesh t

> > > <aavesh_s@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mr Gopu,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for your input on this thread

> > > >

> > > > A small confusion: How can Shani Maharaj in 9th be in a

> > > Dusthana ??

> > > > (as you have mentioned in your mail)

> > > >

> > > > Kindly clarify

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > aavesh

> > > >

> > > > K Gopu <kgopu_24@> wrote:

> > > > dear Mr.aavesh,

> > > > saturn in the 9th if it is in a dustana house in a

> > > > native it can also affect the coborn because of its

> > > > aspect on the 3rd house from the lagna.

> > > > I have saturn in the 9th from my v richika lagna. My

> > > > younger brother died at the age of 3yrs and also my

> > > > relationship with my late father was also not so good.

> > > > I am sharing my life experience.

> > > >

> > > > good luck,

> > > > k.gopu

> > > >

> > > > ________

> > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals?

> > > > Find them fast with Search.

> > > http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?

> category=shopping

> > > <http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?

> category=shopping>

> > > >

> > > & gt;

> > > >

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March 6, 2008

Hi Saji,

And I have not done Vrata, It's the wedding anniversary of Maa

Parvati and her Love the Shiva, it's time to be happy and celebrate,

to Njoy to get exalted...

I m happy too...., Aum Namah Shivaya !!! This is my way of Shivratri.

regards,

Lalit.

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Saaji Bhaskaran "

<saajik wrote:

>

> Dear aavesh ji,

>

> Happy Shivaratri to you too. I did vrata yesterday, I mean for me,

> Shivaratri was yesterday.

>

> Thank you. I didnt say Sri Ramakrishna * converted * to Islam. I

> said " gone through Islam " , which I meant same. Conversion is for

> those who keep religion a trade. When God is only one, one is free

to

> worship any one or mulitple ways and at the end of the day what

> matters is whether one can progress in it. This is my view, to put

in

> short.

>

> Best regards,

>

> Saaji Bhaskaran

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , aavesh t

> <aavesh_s@> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Chandrashekarji,Saaji and Lalit

> >

> > 'WISH YOU A HAPPY SHIVARATRI'

> >

> > My 2 cents on the issue under discussion:

> >

> > Shri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa DID NOT CONVERT his religion.He

was

> a 'Sadhak' in the true sense of the term.

> >

> > He tried methods enunciated by different religions to attain

> God.He succeded in each one of them !!

> >

> > For a spiritual giant of the caliber of Sri Ramakrishna

> Paramahamsa

> > religion had absolutely no significance !!

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > aavesh

> >

> > Saaji Bhaskaran <saajik@> wrote:

> > namaste Chandrashekhar ji,

> >

> > I read some where that Sri Ramakrishna gone through Islam and he

> > found that its possible to realise God through Islam also.

> > Charistainity I dont know.

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> > Saaji Bhaskaran

> >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar

> > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Lalit,

> > >

> > > I think this is a sweeping statement. Are you certain

Ramakrishna

> > > Paramahamsa converted to either Christianity or Islam? What is

> the

> > > source of this information?

> > >

> > > By the way study of other Dharmas is not giving up one's own

> dharma

> > nor

> > > is change of ashram a change of Dharma. If we assume it to be

so

> > then

> > > all ancient kings who took Vanaprasthashrama will have to be

> > labeled as

> > > having changed their Dharma. I think that would not be correct.

> > What is

> > > your opinion?

> > >

> > > Take care,

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > litsol wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Aaves h Sir and Mr. Gopu,

> > > >

> > > > I w'd like to put one observation on Sani's placement on

9'th,

> If

> > > > Sani is there on 9'th, At least once in life, the person

changes

> > > > his/her defined dharma, though Sani is exalted in Bhagwan Sri

> > > > RamKrishna Paramhansha's horoscope, He switched to Islam and

> > > > Christianity, Same is true with Maata Aanadmai, she also

> changed

> > her

> > > > Grihastha dharma and went to Sanyaasa.

> > > >

> > > > I know one more Girl, whom i once liked, Vandana, has also

got

> > Saturn

> > > > in 9'th and she has strong inclination to appreciate other

> > religions

> > > > than her own, she is much influenced by Islamic Sufi system.

> > > >

> > > > I dont know what happened in case of Mr. Gopu, he w'd also

have

> > > > better connection with or influence of some body who is

averse

> to

> > Mr.

> > > > Gopu's defined dharma by tradition or inheritance. However,

> This

> > is

> > > > not a matured finding coz whole of horoscope is not known.

> > > >

> > > > Also It's established now that 10'th house + Sun combo should

be

> > > > taken for judgement of the affairs related to one's Father.

In

> > some

> > > > cases, 9'th can successfully indicate Father's influence on a

> > native

> > > > coz Father is also a natural Guru or Preceptor to a child.

> > > >

> > > > If required we can go for a comparision of 9'th + Sun and

10'th

> +

> > Sun

> > > > combos.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lalit

> > > >

> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing

> > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40 >, aavesh t

> > > > <aavesh_s@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Mr Gopu,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for your input on this thread

> > > > >

> > > > > A small confusion: How can Shani Maharaj in 9th be in a

> > > > Dusthana ??

> > > > > (as you have mentioned in your mail)

> > > > >

> > > > > Kindly clarify

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > aavesh

> > > > >

> > > > > K Gopu <kgopu_24@> wrote:

> > > > > dear Mr.aavesh,

> > > > > saturn in the 9th if it is in a dustana house in a

> > > > > native it can also affect the coborn because of its

> > > > > aspect on the 3rd house from the lagna.

> > > > > I have saturn in the 9th from my v richika lagna. My

> > > > > younger brother died at the age of 3yrs and also my

> > > > > relationship with my late father was also not so good.

> > > > > I am sharing my life experience.

> > > > >

> > > > > good luck,

> > > > > k.gopu

> > > > >

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March 6, 2008

Dear Lalit,

There are two more versions in purAnA. One is its the night which

Lord Shiva swallowed kaalakuda poison. In such a condition, one

shouldnot have dinner nor one should sleep.

2nd one is when Lord Brahma and Lord Vishnu fought, Lord Shiva asked

them to find the end of shiva linga which they couldn't. In this

purpose Shivaratri is celebrated.

There are many stories related to Shivaratri vrata and how it gave

even a Dog moksha. Once on a shivaratri day a dog didnt get anythign

to eat, finally reached a shiva temple when everyone was fasting and

sleepless. It was past midnight, when the Dog entered the temple and

tried to snatch the bananas which kept for as offering for Lord

shiva. But before that people saw this and came to beat the Dog. The

Dog unknwoingly run around the temple 7 times. And at the end they

all beat up the dog and he died. The moment he died, shiva dutas

reached there to take him to shiva loka. Reason, he took shiva ratri

vrata atleast once, offered prayer in shiva temple and didnt sleep on

shiva ratri day. There are many more of this in Purana on shiva ratri

mahatmya, which you should read.

Best regards,

Saaji Bhaskaran

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

<mishra.lalit wrote:

>

> Hi Saji,

>

> And I have not done Vrata, It's the wedding anniversary of Maa

> Parvati and her Love the Shiva, it's time to be happy and

celebrate,

> to Njoy to get exalted...

>

> I m happy too...., Aum Namah Shivaya !!! This is my way of

Shivratri.

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Saaji Bhaskaran "

> <saajik@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear aavesh ji,

> >

> > Happy Shivaratri to you too. I did vrata yesterday, I mean for

me,

> > Shivaratri was yesterday.

> >

> > Thank you. I didnt say Sri Ramakrishna * converted * to Islam. I

> > said " gone through Islam " , which I meant same. Conversion is for

> > those who keep religion a trade. When God is only one, one is

free

> to

> > worship any one or mulitple ways and at the end of the day what

> > matters is whether one can progress in it. This is my view, to

put

> in

> > short.

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> > Saaji Bhaskaran

> >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , aavesh t

> > <aavesh_s@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste Chandrashekarji,Saaji and Lalit

> > >

> > > 'WISH YOU A HAPPY SHIVARATRI'

> > >

> > > My 2 cents on the issue under discussion:

> > >

> > > Shri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa DID NOT CONVERT his religion.He

> was

> > a 'Sadhak' in the true sense of the term.

> > >

> > > He tried methods enunciated by different religions to attain

> > God.He succeded in each one of them !!

> > >

> > > For a spiritual giant of the caliber of Sri Ramakrishna

> > Paramahamsa

> > > religion had absolutely no significance !!

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > aavesh

> > >

> > > Saaji Bhaskaran <saajik@> wrote:

> > > namaste Chandrashekhar ji,

> > >

> > > I read some where that Sri Ramakrishna gone through Islam and

he

> > > found that its possible to realise God through Islam also.

> > > Charistainity I dont know.

> > >

> > > Best regards,

> > >

> > > Saaji Bhaskaran

> > >

> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar

> > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lalit,

> > > >

> > > > I think this is a sweeping statement. Are you certain

> Ramakrishna

> > > > Paramahamsa converted to either Christianity or Islam? What

is

> > the

> > > > source of this information?

> > > >

> > > > By the way study of other Dharmas is not giving up one's own

> > dharma

> > > nor

> > > > is change of ashram a change of Dharma. If we assume it to be

> so

> > > then

> > > > all ancient kings who took Vanaprasthashrama will have to be

> > > labeled as

> > > > having changed their Dharma. I think that would not be

correct.

> > > What is

> > > > your opinion?

> > > >

> > > > Take care,

> > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > >

> > > > litsol wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Aaves h Sir and Mr. Gopu,

> > > > >

> > > > > I w'd like to put one observation on Sani's placement on

> 9'th,

> > If

> > > > > Sani is there on 9'th, At least once in life, the person

> changes

> > > > > his/her defined dharma, though Sani is exalted in Bhagwan

Sri

> > > > > RamKrishna Paramhansha's horoscope, He switched to Islam and

> > > > > Christianity, Same is true with Maata Aanadmai, she also

> > changed

> > > her

> > > > > Grihastha dharma and went to Sanyaasa.

> > > > >

> > > > > I know one more Girl, whom i once liked, Vandana, has also

> got

> > > Saturn

> > > > > in 9'th and she has strong inclination to appreciate other

> > > religions

> > > > > than her own, she is much influenced by Islamic Sufi system.

> > > > >

> > > > > I dont know what happened in case of Mr. Gopu, he w'd also

> have

> > > > > better connection with or influence of some body who is

> averse

> > to

> > > Mr.

> > > > > Gopu's defined dharma by tradition or inheritance. However,

> > This

> > > is

> > > > > not a matured finding coz whole of horoscope is not known.

> > > > >

> > > > > Also It's established now that 10'th house + Sun combo

should

> be

> > > > > taken for judgement of the affairs related to one's Father.

> In

> > > some

> > > > > cases, 9'th can successfully indicate Father's influence on

a

> > > native

> > > > > coz Father is also a natural Guru or Preceptor to a child.

> > > > >

> > > > > If required we can go for a comparision of 9'th + Sun and

> 10'th

> > +

> > > Sun

> > > > > combos.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Lalit

> > > > >

> > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing

> > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40 >,

aavesh t

> > > > > <aavesh_s@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Mr Gopu,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for your input on this thread

> > > > > >

> > > > > > A small confusion: How can Shani Maharaj in 9th be in a

> > > > > Dusthana ??

> > > > > > (as you have mentioned in your mail)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Kindly clarify

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > aavesh

> > > > > >

> > > > > > K Gopu <kgopu_24@> wrote:

> > > > > > dear Mr.aavesh,

> > > > > > saturn in the 9th if it is in a dustana house in a

> > > > > > native it can also affect the coborn because of its

> > > > > > aspect on the 3rd house from the lagna.

> > > > > > I have saturn in the 9th from my v richika lagna. My

> > > > > > younger brother died at the age of 3yrs and also my

> > > > > > relationship with my late father was also not so good.

> > > > > > I am sharing my life experience.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > good luck,

> > > > > > k.gopu

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ________

> > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals?

> > > > > > Find them fast with Search.

> > > > > http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?

> > > category=shopping

> > > > > <http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?

> > > category=shopping>

> > > > > >

> > > > > & gt;

> > > > > >

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March 6, 2008

Hi Saaji,

Dont worry, I m also a Shiva Duta ... I m happy today.

regards,

Lalit.

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Saaji Bhaskaran "

<saajik wrote:

>

> Dear Lalit,

>

> There are two more versions in purAnA. One is its the night which

> Lord Shiva swallowed kaalakuda poison. In such a condition, one

> shouldnot have dinner nor one should sleep.

>

> 2nd one is when Lord Brahma and Lord Vishnu fought, Lord Shiva

asked

> them to find the end of shiva linga which they couldn't. In this

> purpose Shivaratri is celebrated.

>

> There are many stories related to Shivaratri vrata and how it gave

> even a Dog moksha. Once on a shivaratri day a dog didnt get

anythign

> to eat, finally reached a shiva temple when everyone was fasting

and

> sleepless. It was past midnight, when the Dog entered the temple

and

> tried to snatch the bananas which kept for as offering for Lord

> shiva. But before that people saw this and came to beat the Dog.

The

> Dog unknwoingly run around the temple 7 times. And at the end they

> all beat up the dog and he died. The moment he died, shiva dutas

> reached there to take him to shiva loka. Reason, he took shiva

ratri

> vrata atleast once, offered prayer in shiva temple and didnt sleep

on

> shiva ratri day. There are many more of this in Purana on shiva

ratri

> mahatmya, which you should read.

>

> Best regards,

>

> Saaji Bhaskaran

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Saji,

> >

> > And I have not done Vrata, It's the wedding anniversary of Maa

> > Parvati and her Love the Shiva, it's time to be happy and

> celebrate,

> > to Njoy to get exalted...

> >

> > I m happy too...., Aum Namah Shivaya !!! This is my way of

> Shivratri.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Saaji

Bhaskaran "

> > <saajik@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear aavesh ji,

> > >

> > > Happy Shivaratri to you too. I did vrata yesterday, I mean for

> me,

> > > Shivaratri was yesterday.

> > >

> > > Thank you. I didnt say Sri Ramakrishna * converted * to Islam.

I

> > > said " gone through Islam " , which I meant same. Conversion is

for

> > > those who keep religion a trade. When God is only one, one is

> free

> > to

> > > worship any one or mulitple ways and at the end of the day what

> > > matters is whether one can progress in it. This is my view, to

> put

> > in

> > > short.

> > >

> > > Best regards,

> > >

> > > Saaji Bhaskaran

> > >

> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , aavesh t

> > > <aavesh_s@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Chandrashekarji,Saaji and Lalit

> > > >

> > > > 'WISH YOU A HAPPY SHIVARATRI'

> > > >

> > > > My 2 cents on the issue under discussion:

> > > >

> > > > Shri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa DID NOT CONVERT his

religion.He

> > was

> > > a 'Sadhak' in the true sense of the term.

> > > >

> > > > He tried methods enunciated by different religions to

attain

> > > God.He succeded in each one of them !!

> > > >

> > > > For a spiritual giant of the caliber of Sri Ramakrishna

> > > Paramahamsa

> > > > religion had absolutely no significance !!

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > aavesh

> > > >

> > > > Saaji Bhaskaran <saajik@> wrote:

> > > > namaste Chandrashekhar ji,

> > > >

> > > > I read some where that Sri Ramakrishna gone through Islam and

> he

> > > > found that its possible to realise God through Islam also.

> > > > Charistainity I dont know.

> > > >

> > > > Best regards,

> > > >

> > > > Saaji Bhaskaran

> > > >

> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing ,

Chandrashekhar

> > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Lalit,

> > > > >

> > > > > I think this is a sweeping statement. Are you certain

> > Ramakrishna

> > > > > Paramahamsa converted to either Christianity or Islam? What

> is

> > > the

> > > > > source of this information?

> > > > >

> > > > > By the way study of other Dharmas is not giving up one's

own

> > > dharma

> > > > nor

> > > > > is change of ashram a change of Dharma. If we assume it to

be

> > so

> > > > then

> > > > > all ancient kings who took Vanaprasthashrama will have to

be

> > > > labeled as

> > > > > having changed their Dharma. I think that would not be

> correct.

> > > > What is

> > > > > your opinion?

> > > > >

> > > > > Take care,

> > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > >

> > > > > litsol wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Aaves h Sir and Mr. Gopu,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I w'd like to put one observation on Sani's placement on

> > 9'th,

> > > If

> > > > > > Sani is there on 9'th, At least once in life, the person

> > changes

> > > > > > his/her defined dharma, though Sani is exalted in Bhagwan

> Sri

> > > > > > RamKrishna Paramhansha's horoscope, He switched to Islam

and

> > > > > > Christianity, Same is true with Maata Aanadmai, she also

> > > changed

> > > > her

> > > > > > Grihastha dharma and went to Sanyaasa.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I know one more Girl, whom i once liked, Vandana, has

also

> > got

> > > > Saturn

> > > > > > in 9'th and she has strong inclination to appreciate

other

> > > > religions

> > > > > > than her own, she is much influenced by Islamic Sufi

system.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I dont know what happened in case of Mr. Gopu, he w'd

also

> > have

> > > > > > better connection with or influence of some body who is

> > averse

> > > to

> > > > Mr.

> > > > > > Gopu's defined dharma by tradition or inheritance.

However,

> > > This

> > > > is

> > > > > > not a matured finding coz whole of horoscope is not known.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also It's established now that 10'th house + Sun combo

> should

> > be

> > > > > > taken for judgement of the affairs related to one's

Father.

> > In

> > > > some

> > > > > > cases, 9'th can successfully indicate Father's influence

on

> a

> > > > native

> > > > > > coz Father is also a natural Guru or Preceptor to a child.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If required we can go for a comparision of 9'th + Sun and

> > 10'th

> > > +

> > > > Sun

> > > > > > combos.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > Lalit

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing

> > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40 >,

> aavesh t

> > > > > > <aavesh_s@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Mr Gopu,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks for your input on this thread

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A small confusion: How can Shani Maharaj in 9th be in a

> > > > > > Dusthana ??

> > > > > > > (as you have mentioned in your mail)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Kindly clarify

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > aavesh

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > K Gopu <kgopu_24@> wrote:

> > > > > > > dear Mr.aavesh,

> > > > > > > saturn in the 9th if it is in a dustana house in a

> > > > > > > native it can also affect the coborn because of its

> > > > > > > aspect on the 3rd house from the lagna.

> > > > > > > I have saturn in the 9th from my v richika lagna. My

> > > > > > > younger brother died at the age of 3yrs and also my

> > > > > > > relationship with my late father was also not so good.

> > > > > > > I am sharing my life experience.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > good luck,

> > > > > > > k.gopu

> > > > > > >

________

> > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals?

> > > > > > > Find them fast with Search.

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> > > > category=shopping>

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March 6, 2008

Dear Saaji,

I doubt that he converted to Islam. Let us see if Lalit has some other

information. As to finding that it is possible to find god through

Islam, that is natural as no body has monopoly over the Lord who is

omnipotent and omnipresent in different forms according to what the

devotee wants to see him.

Take care,

Chandrashekhar.

Saaji Bhaskaran wrote:

namaste Chandrashekhar ji,

I read some where that Sri Ramakrishna gone through Islam and he

found that its possible to realise God through Islam also.

Charistainity I dont know.

Best regards,

Saaji Bhaskaran

Vedic Astrologyandhealing ,

Chandrashekhar

<sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

>

> Dear Lalit,

>

> I think this is a sweeping statement. Are you certain Ramakrishna

> Paramahamsa converted to either Christianity or Islam? What is the

> source of this information?

>

> By the way study of other Dharmas is not giving up one's own

dharma

nor

> is change of ashram a change of Dharma. If we assume it to be so

then

> all ancient kings who took Vanaprasthashrama will have to be

labeled as

> having changed their Dharma. I think that would not be correct.

What is

> your opinion?

>

> Take care,

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> litsol wrote:

> >

> > Dear Aavesh Sir and Mr. Gopu,

> >

> > I w'd like to put one observation on Sani's placement on

9'th, If

> > Sani is there on 9'th, At least once in life, the person

changes

> > his/her defined dharma, though Sani is exalted in Bhagwan Sri

> > RamKrishna Paramhansha's horoscope, He switched to Islam

and

> > Christianity, Same is true with Maata Aanadmai, she also

changed

her

> > Grihastha dharma and went to Sanyaasa.

> >

> > I know one more Girl, whom i once liked, Vandana, has also

got

Saturn

> > in 9'th and she has strong inclination to appreciate other

religions

> > than her own, she is much influenced by Islamic Sufi system.

> >

> > I dont know what happened in case of Mr. Gopu, he w'd also

have

> > better connection with or influence of some body who is

averse to

Mr.

> > Gopu's defined dharma by tradition or inheritance. However,

This

is

> > not a matured finding coz whole of horoscope is not known.

> >

> > Also It's established now that 10'th house + Sun combo should

be

> > taken for judgement of the affairs related to one's Father.

In

some

> > cases, 9'th can successfully indicate Father's influence on a

native

> > coz Father is also a natural Guru or Preceptor to a child.

> >

> > If required we can go for a comparision of 9'th + Sun and

10'th +

Sun

> > combos.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit

> >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing

> > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>,

aavesh t

> > <aavesh_s@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mr Gopu,

> > >

> > > Thanks for your input on this thread

> > >

> > > A small confusion: How can Shani Maharaj in 9th be in a

> > Dusthana ??

> > > (as you have mentioned in your mail)

> > >

> > > Kindly clarify

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > aavesh

> > >

> > > K Gopu <kgopu_24@> wrote:

> > > dear Mr.aavesh,

> > > saturn in the 9th if it is in a dustana house in a

> > > native it can also affect the coborn because of its

> > > aspect on the 3rd house from the lagna.

> > > I have saturn in the 9th from my vrichika lagna. My

> > > younger brother died at the age of 3yrs and also my

> > > relationship with my late father was also not so good.

> > > I am sharing my life experience.

> > >

> > > good luck,

> > > k.gopu

> > >

> > > ________

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March 6, 2008

Dear Lalit,

Did he convert to Islam? If so, when did he reconvert to Hinduism? Will

you find out. His learning what is Islam etc. does not mean giving up

dharma.

Chandrashekhar.

litsol wrote:

Daer Sir,

Namaskaar, I m sure and source of my information abt Sri Ramkrishna's

taking up Islam for a small period is only Sri RamkKrishna Leelamrit

and SriRamkrishna Charitamrit, one is published by Sri Ramkrishna

Mission and the other one is written by Roma Rola (dont know how to

correctly spell his name)

I have studied 4 - 5 biographies of Paramhansha, it's given

everywhere, it was Thakur, who told Vivekanada that Juesu's nose was

not straight, when Viekanada went to west, in one of the library he

got a pic drawn by hand like protrait, Jesus nose was like that only.

Maata Aannada Mai had not taken Sanyas or Vanaprasthashrama, she had

no Guru also in real sense, (m not sure), She did not follow her

grihasta dharam and even her husband for 8 years turned like her

sishya, who was enough elder to her.

Once maa happened to know she is a soul like God and then never

looked back to worldly affairs.

regards,

Lalit.

Vedic Astrologyandhealing ,

Chandrashekhar

<sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

>

> Dear Lalit,

>

> I think this is a sweeping statement. Are you certain Ramakrishna

> Paramahamsa converted to either Christianity or Islam? What is the

> source of this information?

>

> By the way study of other Dharmas is not giving up one's own

dharma

nor

> is change of ashram a change of Dharma. If we assume it to be so

then

> all ancient kings who took Vanaprasthashrama will have to be

labeled as

> having changed their Dharma. I think that would not be correct.

What is

> your opinion?

>

> Take care,

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> litsol wrote:

> >

> > Dear Aavesh Sir and Mr. Gopu,

> >

> > I w'd like to put one observation on Sani's placement on

9'th, If

> > Sani is there on 9'th, At least once in life, the person

changes

> > his/her defined dharma, though Sani is exalted in Bhagwan Sri

> > RamKrishna Paramhansha's horoscope, He switched to Islam

and

> > Christianity, Same is true with Maata Aanadmai, she also

changed

her

> > Grihastha dharma and went to Sanyaasa.

> >

> > I know one more Girl, whom i once liked, Vandana, has also

got

Saturn

> > in 9'th and she has strong inclination to appreciate other

religions

> > than her own, she is much influenced by Islamic Sufi system.

> >

> > I dont know what happened in case of Mr. Gopu, he w'd also

have

> > better connection with or influence of some body who is

averse to

Mr.

> > Gopu's defined dharma by tradition or inheritance. However,

This

is

> > not a matured finding coz whole of horoscope is not known.

> >

> > Also It's established now that 10'th house + Sun combo should

be

> > taken for judgement of the affairs related to one's Father.

In

some

> > cases, 9'th can successfully indicate Father's influence on a

native

> > coz Father is also a natural Guru or Preceptor to a child.

> >

> > If required we can go for a comparision of 9'th + Sun and

10'th +

Sun

> > combos.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit

> >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing

> > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>,

aavesh t

> > <aavesh_s@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mr Gopu,

> > >

> > > Thanks for your input on this thread

> > >

> > > A small confusion: How can Shani Maharaj in 9th be in a

> > Dusthana ??

> > > (as you have mentioned in your mail)

> > >

> > > Kindly clarify

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > aavesh

> > >

> > > K Gopu <kgopu_24@> wrote:

> > > dear Mr.aavesh,

> > > saturn in the 9th if it is in a dustana house in a

> > > native it can also affect the coborn because of its

> > > aspect on the 3rd house from the lagna.

> > > I have saturn in the 9th from my vrichika lagna. My

> > > younger brother died at the age of 3yrs and also my

> > > relationship with my late father was also not so good.

> > > I am sharing my life experience.

> > >

> > > good luck,

> > > k.gopu

> > >

> > > ________

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> > > Find them fast with Search.

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March 6, 2008

hare ramakrishna

dear chandrasekhar ji

Thakur never converted to islam ,he was following some islamic or sufis sampradayas and that time he was living like a muslim as he was in search of truth .Same applies to xianity .He never converted .

same way he tested all known tantric rituals also

Also saaji is rite abt saying diffrnt sampradayas in pravrajya .And diffrnt planets controls it .And he explained it beautifully .

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:>> Dear Lalit,> > Did he convert to Islam? If so, when did he reconvert to Hinduism? Will > you find out. His learning what is Islam etc. does not mean giving up > dharma.> > Chandrashekhar.> > litsol wrote:> >> > Daer Sir,> >> > Namaskaar, I m sure and source of my information abt Sri Ramkrishna's> > taking up Islam for a small period is only Sri RamkKrishna Leelamrit> > and SriRamkrishna Charitamrit, one is published by Sri Ramkrishna> > Mission and the other one is written by Roma Rola (dont know how to> > correctly spell his name)> >> > I have studied 4 - 5 biographies of Paramhansha, it's given> > everywhere, it was Thakur, who told Vivekanada that Juesu's nose was> > not straight, when Viekanada went to west, in one of the library he> > got a pic drawn by hand like protrait, Jesus nose was like that only.> >> > Maata Aannada Mai had not taken Sanyas or Vanaprasthashrama, she had> > no Guru also in real sense, (m not sure), She did not follow her> > grihasta dharam and even her husband for 8 years turned like her> > sishya, who was enough elder to her.> >> > Once maa happened to know she is a soul like God and then never> > looked back to worldly affairs.> >> > regards,> > Lalit.> >> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, Chandrashekhar> > sharma.chandrashekhar@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Lalit,> > >> > > I think this is a sweeping statement. Are you certain Ramakrishna> > > Paramahamsa converted to either Christianity or Islam? What is the> > > source of this information?> > >> > > By the way study of other Dharmas is not giving up one's own dharma> > nor> > > is change of ashram a change of Dharma. If we assume it to be so> > then> > > all ancient kings who took Vanaprasthashrama will have to be> > labeled as> > > having changed their Dharma. I think that would not be correct.> > What is> > > your opinion?> > >> > > Take care,> > > Chandrashekhar.> > >> > > litsol wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Aavesh Sir and Mr. Gopu,> > > >> > > > I w'd like to put one observation on Sani's placement on 9'th, If> > > > Sani is there on 9'th, At least once in life, the person changes> > > > his/her defined dharma, though Sani is exalted in Bhagwan Sri> > > > RamKrishna Paramhansha's horoscope, He switched to Islam and> > > > Christianity, Same is true with Maata Aanadmai, she also changed> > her> > > > Grihastha dharma and went to Sanyaasa.> > > >> > > > I know one more Girl, whom i once liked, Vandana, has also got> > Saturn> > > > in 9'th and she has strong inclination to appreciate other> > religions> > > > than her own, she is much influenced by Islamic Sufi system.> > > >> > > > I dont know what happened in case of Mr. Gopu, he w'd also have> > > > better connection with or influence of some body who is averse to> > Mr.> > > > Gopu's defined dharma by tradition or inheritance. However, This> > is> > > > not a matured finding coz whole of horoscope is not known.> > > >> > > > Also It's established now that 10'th house + Sun combo should be> > > > taken for judgement of the affairs related to one's Father. In> > some> > > > cases, 9'th can successfully indicate Father's influence on a> > native> > > > coz Father is also a natural Guru or Preceptor to a child.> > > >> > > > If required we can go for a comparision of 9'th + Sun and 10'th +> > Sun> > > > combos.> > > >> > > > regards,> > > > Lalit> > > >> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>> > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, aavesh t> > > > <aavesh_s@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Mr Gopu,> > > > >> > > > > Thanks for your input on this thread> > > > >> > > > > A small confusion: How can Shani Maharaj in 9th be in a> > > > Dusthana ??> > > > > (as you have mentioned in your mail)> > > > >> > > > > Kindly clarify> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > >> > > > > aavesh> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > K Gopu <kgopu_24@> wrote:> > > > > dear Mr.aavesh,> > > > > saturn in the 9th if it is in a dustana house in a> > > > > native it can also affect the coborn because of its> > > > > aspect on the 3rd house from the lagna.> > > > > I have saturn in the 9th from my vrichika lagna. My> > > > > younger brother died at the age of 3yrs and also my> > > > > relationship with my late father was also not so good.> > > > > I am sharing my life experience.> > > > >> > > > > good luck,> > > > > k.gopu> > > > >> > > > > ________> > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals?> > > > > Find them fast with Search.> > > > http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php? > > <http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?>> > category=shopping> > > > <http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php? > > <http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?>> > category=shopping>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > You are managing the Vedic Astrologyandhealing group through> > Grouply.> > > > > You to individual emails for this group. | Update your> > > > Subscription settings> > > > > 7 messages in this conversation, including this one | Add a> > comment> > > > > View this message on Grouply so you can rate, tag, bookmark, and> > > > see what others think about it.> > > > >> > > > > Finance> > > > > It's Now Personal> > > > > Guides, news,> > > > > advice & more.> > > > >> > > > > Y! 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March 7, 2008

Dear Sir,

There is no point in unnecessarily stretching words, Thakur

Paramhansha, was initiated into Islam by a Fakir and when he got the

divine experience through Islam, he came back to his own religion, he

was not limited to " Learning " , that time when he was into Islam, he

didnt do even Kali Puja. Whole story is given in all good bio-

graphies.

It's a hard core fact, there is no room for any confusion, As our

focus is astrology, we should try to find it out in his horoscope,

and It's not only thakur's horoscope, I have seen same kind of

influence in other's horoscope too if Sani/Rahu is placed in 9'th,

how effective it is, depends on other planets in the horoscope.

regards,

Lalit.

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar

<sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

>

> Dear Lalit,

>

> Did he convert to Islam? If so, when did he reconvert to Hinduism?

Will

> you find out. His learning what is Islam etc. does not mean giving

up

> dharma.

>

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> litsol wrote:

> >

> > Daer Sir,

> >

> > Namaskaar, I m sure and source of my information abt Sri

Ramkrishna's

> > taking up Islam for a small period is only Sri RamkKrishna

Leelamrit

> > and SriRamkrishna Charitamrit, one is published by Sri Ramkrishna

> > Mission and the other one is written by Roma Rola (dont know how

to

> > correctly spell his name)

> >

> > I have studied 4 - 5 biographies of Paramhansha, it's given

> > everywhere, it was Thakur, who told Vivekanada that Juesu's nose

was

> > not straight, when Viekanada went to west, in one of the library

he

> > got a pic drawn by hand like protrait, Jesus nose was like that

only.

> >

> > Maata Aannada Mai had not taken Sanyas or Vanaprasthashrama, she

had

> > no Guru also in real sense, (m not sure), She did not follow her

> > grihasta dharam and even her husband for 8 years turned like her

> > sishya, who was enough elder to her.

> >

> > Once maa happened to know she is a soul like God and then never

> > looked back to worldly affairs.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing

> > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>,

Chandrashekhar

> > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Lalit,

> > >

> > > I think this is a sweeping statement. Are you certain

Ramakrishna

> > > Paramahamsa converted to either Christianity or Islam? What is

the

> > > source of this information?

> > >

> > > By the way study of other Dharmas is not giving up one's own

dharma

> > nor

> > > is change of ashram a change of Dharma. If we assume it to be so

> > then

> > > all ancient kings who took Vanaprasthashrama will have to be

> > labeled as

> > > having changed their Dharma. I think that would not be correct.

> > What is

> > > your opinion?

> > >

> > > Take care,

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > litsol wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Aavesh Sir and Mr. Gopu,

> > > >

> > > > I w'd like to put one observation on Sani's placement on

9'th, If

> > > > Sani is there on 9'th, At least once in life, the person

changes

> > > > his/her defined dharma, though Sani is exalted in Bhagwan Sri

> > > > RamKrishna Paramhansha's horoscope, He switched to Islam and

> > > > Christianity, Same is true with Maata Aanadmai, she also

changed

> > her

> > > > Grihastha dharma and went to Sanyaasa.

> > > >

> > > > I know one more Girl, whom i once liked, Vandana, has also got

> > Saturn

> > > > in 9'th and she has strong inclination to appreciate other

> > religions

> > > > than her own, she is much influenced by Islamic Sufi system.

> > > >

> > > > I dont know what happened in case of Mr. Gopu, he w'd also

have

> > > > better connection with or influence of some body who is

averse to

> > Mr.

> > > > Gopu's defined dharma by tradition or inheritance. However,

This

> > is

> > > > not a matured finding coz whole of horoscope is not known.

> > > >

> > > > Also It's established now that 10'th house + Sun combo should

be

> > > > taken for judgement of the affairs related to one's Father. In

> > some

> > > > cases, 9'th can successfully indicate Father's influence on a

> > native

> > > > coz Father is also a natural Guru or Preceptor to a child.

> > > >

> > > > If required we can go for a comparision of 9'th + Sun and

10'th +

> > Sun

> > > > combos.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lalit

> > > >

> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing

> > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>

> > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, aavesh t

> > > > <aavesh_s@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Mr Gopu,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for your input on this thread

> > > > >

> > > > > A small confusion: How can Shani Maharaj in 9th be in a

> > > > Dusthana ??

> > > > > (as you have mentioned in your mail)

> > > > >

> > > > > Kindly clarify

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > aavesh

> > > > >

> > > > > K Gopu <kgopu_24@> wrote:

> > > > > dear Mr.aavesh,

> > > > > saturn in the 9th if it is in a dustana house in a

> > > > > native it can also affect the coborn because of its

> > > > > aspect on the 3rd house from the lagna.

> > > > > I have saturn in the 9th from my vrichika lagna. My

> > > > > younger brother died at the age of 3yrs and also my

> > > > > relationship with my late father was also not so good.

> > > > > I am sharing my life experience.

> > > > >

> > > > > good luck,

> > > > > k.gopu

> > > > >

> > > > > ________

> > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals?

> > > > > Find them fast with Search.

> > > > http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?

> > <http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?>

> > category=shopping

> > > > <http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?

> > <http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?>

> > category=shopping>

> > > > >

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> > Grouply.

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March 7, 2008

Sunil Ji,

Something is believed without digging into and testing it, what's the

base to declare that a sampradayaa is ruled by this or that planet.

Shankaracharya alone has floated dozens of sampradayaas, it seems

somebody in later age has given this idea of planet's ruling

sampradaays.

Pravarjya can be there but i was discussing about reaching the God,

If Jupitor is not involved, nobody can reach the God, I mean if u try

to look it into horoscope.

regards,

Lalit.

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sunil nair "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

> hare ramakrishna

>

> dear chandrasekhar ji

>

> Thakur never converted to islam ,he was following some islamic

or

> sufis sampradayas and that time he was living like a muslim as he

was in

> search of truth .Same applies to xianity .He never converted .

>

> same way he tested all known tantric rituals also

>

> Also saaji is rite abt saying diffrnt sampradayas in pravrajya .And

> diffrnt planets controls it .And he explained it beautifully .

>

> regrds sunil nair

>

> om shreem mahalaxmai namah

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar

> <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Lalit,

> >

> > Did he convert to Islam? If so, when did he reconvert to Hinduism?

> Will

> > you find out. His learning what is Islam etc. does not mean

giving up

> > dharma.

> >

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > litsol wrote:

> > >

> > > Daer Sir,

> > >

> > > Namaskaar, I m sure and source of my information abt Sri

> Ramkrishna's

> > > taking up Islam for a small period is only Sri RamkKrishna

Leelamrit

> > > and SriRamkrishna Charitamrit, one is published by Sri

Ramkrishna

> > > Mission and the other one is written by Roma Rola (dont know

how to

> > > correctly spell his name)

> > >

> > > I have studied 4 - 5 biographies of Paramhansha, it's given

> > > everywhere, it was Thakur, who told Vivekanada that Juesu's

nose was

> > > not straight, when Viekanada went to west, in one of the

library he

> > > got a pic drawn by hand like protrait, Jesus nose was like that

> only.

> > >

> > > Maata Aannada Mai had not taken Sanyas or Vanaprasthashrama,

she had

> > > no Guru also in real sense, (m not sure), She did not follow her

> > > grihasta dharam and even her husband for 8 years turned like her

> > > sishya, who was enough elder to her.

> > >

> > > Once maa happened to know she is a soul like God and then never

> > > looked back to worldly affairs.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit.

> > >

> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing

> > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>,

Chandrashekhar

> > > sharma.chandrashekhar@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lalit,

> > > >

> > > > I think this is a sweeping statement. Are you certain

Ramakrishna

> > > > Paramahamsa converted to either Christianity or Islam? What

is the

> > > > source of this information?

> > > >

> > > > By the way study of other Dharmas is not giving up one's own

> dharma

> > > nor

> > > > is change of ashram a change of Dharma. If we assume it to be

so

> > > then

> > > > all ancient kings who took Vanaprasthashrama will have to be

> > > labeled as

> > > > having changed their Dharma. I think that would not be

correct.

> > > What is

> > > > your opinion?

> > > >

> > > > Take care,

> > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > >

> > > > litsol wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Aavesh Sir and Mr. Gopu,

> > > > >

> > > > > I w'd like to put one observation on Sani's placement on

9'th,

> If

> > > > > Sani is there on 9'th, At least once in life, the person

changes

> > > > > his/her defined dharma, though Sani is exalted in Bhagwan

Sri

> > > > > RamKrishna Paramhansha's horoscope, He switched to Islam and

> > > > > Christianity, Same is true with Maata Aanadmai, she also

changed

> > > her

> > > > > Grihastha dharma and went to Sanyaasa.

> > > > >

> > > > > I know one more Girl, whom i once liked, Vandana, has also

got

> > > Saturn

> > > > > in 9'th and she has strong inclination to appreciate other

> > > religions

> > > > > than her own, she is much influenced by Islamic Sufi system.

> > > > >

> > > > > I dont know what happened in case of Mr. Gopu, he w'd also

have

> > > > > better connection with or influence of some body who is

averse

> to

> > > Mr.

> > > > > Gopu's defined dharma by tradition or inheritance. However,

This

> > > is

> > > > > not a matured finding coz whole of horoscope is not known.

> > > > >

> > > > > Also It's established now that 10'th house + Sun combo

should be

> > > > > taken for judgement of the affairs related to one's Father.

In

> > > some

> > > > > cases, 9'th can successfully indicate Father's influence on

a

> > > native

> > > > > coz Father is also a natural Guru or Preceptor to a child.

> > > > >

> > > > > If required we can go for a comparision of 9'th + Sun and

10'th

> +

> > > Sun

> > > > > combos.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Lalit

> > > > >

> > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing

> > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>

> > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, aavesh

t

> > > > > <aavesh_s@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Mr Gopu,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for your input on this thread

> > > > > >

> > > > > > A small confusion: How can Shani Maharaj in 9th be in a

> > > > > Dusthana ??

> > > > > > (as you have mentioned in your mail)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Kindly clarify

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > aavesh

> > > > > >

> > > > > > K Gopu <kgopu_24@> wrote:

> > > > > > dear Mr.aavesh,

> > > > > > saturn in the 9th if it is in a dustana house in a

> > > > > > native it can also affect the coborn because of its

> > > > > > aspect on the 3rd house from the lagna.

> > > > > > I have saturn in the 9th from my vrichika lagna. My

> > > > > > younger brother died at the age of 3yrs and also my

> > > > > > relationship with my late father was also not so good.

> > > > > > I am sharing my life experience.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > good luck,

> > > > > > k.gopu

> > > > > >

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March 7, 2008

Sunil Ji,

Namaskaar, I m sorry to say, Your study is partial, let's take it

this way : Aadi Shankara made - Giri, Puri, Teertha , Ashram,

Saraswati, Dandi .. etc, Todya i dont remember all as i studied about

them early, some 12 - 15 yrs back, Nath and Naga were started by

their influential Gurus, in addition to that, south india has got

some exclusive Nainaars,Alwars,Jangams, then there are

Shaiva,VirShaiva,Lingayat, Kaulas, Shaktas and then Vaishnavas, then

there are other tantrik cults.

Now we have our input data with us, can u tell our members what

planet rules what and how the conclusion is reached upon.

Why you all elders dont accept, you dont know each and everything,

even there is no base available to identify a sect with the help of

astrology, if some people have done efforts, we should recognise them

with respect, but pls. dont say that astrology has got reference of

these sampradayas since Parashara, Parashara was in Dwapar and for

Aadi Shankara it's hardly 1200 yrs.

I admit tht BPHS says about Pravajya Yogas, but We were discussing

How through the astrology we can recognise one has attained at self

realization with God or Not.

It's a myth that Saturn can take one to God, No Sir, it cant, saturn

can reduce one to ashes, the renunciation part, Do u think, a

renunciation takes one to God ? what to renunciate ? how to

renunicate, there is all pervading god, where u will go by

renunciation, to understand this, saturn's domain has to be crossed

over, saturn puts u to a foundry only but If Jupitor is not there one

fells in love with this foundry, his mind in that life will not get

the lite of widom, like a robot trained to remove cloths, but he will

remove cloths but how to wear the cloths.

renunciation or indulgance is one and same thing, no difference from

spirituality point of view.

It was jupitor in 5'th house of Thakur that brought him back to the

track and took to the height of sadhana, 5'th is the place of doing

sadhana, 9'th is the faith, dharma, morality, preceptor etc.., eighth

is the figment of imagination of today's astrologers, world have not

seen any real individual who has ever atained self realization with

the help of 8'th house alone, having interest in making an open thing

secretive has no significance at all, this is what 8'th house does,

the person will make great fuss about insignificant things.

Let's stop giving undue importance to 8'th house for God's vision or

Bhakti. unless one lands on the moon, he cant know what happens

there, As i have seen the God, I know what are the states of the

mind, what are the prerequisites, therefore, I know what people are

missing.

Let's redifine and restablish some of things which are misleading us.

regards,

Lalit.

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sunil nair "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

> Hare rama krishna

>

> dear lalit ,

>

> yes ,sankara codified it which was pre existing also ,like veda

vyasa

> done vedas which was there b4 him but he edited it and compiled .

>

> and astro is long b4 sankara too ( tho he is frm kerala i dont

wanted to

> take all

>

> credit )

>

> sufism or saint hood has no place in traditional islam so

initiation is

> diffrnt in normal islam also u loose some skin too

>

> God realisation is in all religions and jup of cource will influence

> ,but not the way u think .

>

> hope this helps

>

> regrds sunil nair

>

> om shreem mahalaxmai namah

>

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> >

> > Sunil Ji,

> >

> > Something is believed without digging into and testing it, what's

the

> > base to declare that a sampradayaa is ruled by this or that

planet.

> >

> > Shankaracharya alone has floated dozens of sampradayaas, it seems

> > somebody in later age has given this idea of planet's ruling

> > sampradaays.

> >

> > Pravarjya can be there but i was discussing about reaching the

God,

> > If Jupitor is not involved, nobody can reach the God, I mean if u

try

> > to look it into horoscope.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sunil nair "

> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > >

> > > hare ramakrishna

> > >

> > > dear chandrasekhar ji

> > >

> > > Thakur never converted to islam ,he was following some islamic

> > or

> > > sufis sampradayas and that time he was living like a muslim as

he

> > was in

> > > search of truth .Same applies to xianity .He never converted .

> > >

> > > same way he tested all known tantric rituals also

> > >

> > > Also saaji is rite abt saying diffrnt sampradayas in

pravrajya .And

> > > diffrnt planets controls it .And he explained it beautifully .

> > >

> > > regrds sunil nair

> > >

> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah

> > >

> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar

> > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lalit,

> > > >

> > > > Did he convert to Islam? If so, when did he reconvert to

Hinduism?

> > > Will

> > > > you find out. His learning what is Islam etc. does not mean

> > giving up

> > > > dharma.

> > > >

> > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > >

> > > > litsol wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Daer Sir,

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaskaar, I m sure and source of my information abt Sri

> > > Ramkrishna's

> > > > > taking up Islam for a small period is only Sri RamkKrishna

> > Leelamrit

> > > > > and SriRamkrishna Charitamrit, one is published by Sri

> > Ramkrishna

> > > > > Mission and the other one is written by Roma Rola (dont know

> > how to

> > > > > correctly spell his name)

> > > > >

> > > > > I have studied 4 - 5 biographies of Paramhansha, it's given

> > > > > everywhere, it was Thakur, who told Vivekanada that Juesu's

> > nose was

> > > > > not straight, when Viekanada went to west, in one of the

> > library he

> > > > > got a pic drawn by hand like protrait, Jesus nose was like

that

> > > only.

> > > > >

> > > > > Maata Aannada Mai had not taken Sanyas or Vanaprasthashrama,

> > she had

> > > > > no Guru also in real sense, (m not sure), She did not

follow her

> > > > > grihasta dharam and even her husband for 8 years turned

like her

> > > > > sishya, who was enough elder to her.

> > > > >

> > > > > Once maa happened to know she is a soul like God and then

never

> > > > > looked back to worldly affairs.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Lalit.

> > > > >

> > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing

> > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>,

> > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > sharma.chandrashekhar@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Lalit,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I think this is a sweeping statement. Are you certain

> > Ramakrishna

> > > > > > Paramahamsa converted to either Christianity or Islam?

What

> > is the

> > > > > > source of this information?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > By the way study of other Dharmas is not giving up one's

own

> > > dharma

> > > > > nor

> > > > > > is change of ashram a change of Dharma. If we assume it

to be

> > so

> > > > > then

> > > > > > all ancient kings who took Vanaprasthashrama will have to

be

> > > > > labeled as

> > > > > > having changed their Dharma. I think that would not be

> > correct.

> > > > > What is

> > > > > > your opinion?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Take care,

> > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > litsol wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Aavesh Sir and Mr. Gopu,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I w'd like to put one observation on Sani's placement on

> > 9'th,

> > > If

> > > > > > > Sani is there on 9'th, At least once in life, the person

> > changes

> > > > > > > his/her defined dharma, though Sani is exalted in

Bhagwan

> > Sri

> > > > > > > RamKrishna Paramhansha's horoscope, He switched to

Islam and

> > > > > > > Christianity, Same is true with Maata Aanadmai, she also

> > changed

> > > > > her

> > > > > > > Grihastha dharma and went to Sanyaasa.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I know one more Girl, whom i once liked, Vandana, has

also

> > got

> > > > > Saturn

> > > > > > > in 9'th and she has strong inclination to appreciate

other

> > > > > religions

> > > > > > > than her own, she is much influenced by Islamic Sufi

system.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I dont know what happened in case of Mr. Gopu, he w'd

also

> > have

> > > > > > > better connection with or influence of some body who is

> > averse

> > > to

> > > > > Mr.

> > > > > > > Gopu's defined dharma by tradition or inheritance.

However,

> > This

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > not a matured finding coz whole of horoscope is not

known.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Also It's established now that 10'th house + Sun combo

> > should be

> > > > > > > taken for judgement of the affairs related to one's

Father.

> > In

> > > > > some

> > > > > > > cases, 9'th can successfully indicate Father's

influence on

> > a

> > > > > native

> > > > > > > coz Father is also a natural Guru or Preceptor to a

child.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If required we can go for a comparision of 9'th + Sun

and

> > 10'th

> > > +

> > > > > Sun

> > > > > > > combos.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > Lalit

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing

> > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>

> > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>,

aavesh

> > t

> > > > > > > <aavesh_s@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Mr Gopu,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks for your input on this thread

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > A small confusion: How can Shani Maharaj in 9th be in

a

> > > > > > > Dusthana ??

> > > > > > > > (as you have mentioned in your mail)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Kindly clarify

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > aavesh

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > K Gopu <kgopu_24@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > dear Mr.aavesh,

> > > > > > > > saturn in the 9th if it is in a dustana house in a

> > > > > > > > native it can also affect the coborn because of its

> > > > > > > > aspect on the 3rd house from the lagna.

> > > > > > > > I have saturn in the 9th from my vrichika lagna. My

> > > > > > > > younger brother died at the age of 3yrs and also my

> > > > > > > > relationship with my late father was also not so good.

> > > > > > > > I am sharing my life experience.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > good luck,

> > > > > > > > k.gopu

> > > > > > > >

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March 7, 2008

Dear Lalit,

I am not stretching words. The fact remains that he did not convert to

Islam. If we want to understand the astrological significance of his

trying to explore occult practices of other religion, we should know

the time this happened and then find out whether the dashas and Gochar

at that time points to Shani in the 9th. Otherwise it must remain a

speculation.

Chandrashekhar.

litsol wrote:

Dear Sir,

There is no point in unnecessarily stretching words, Thakur

Paramhansha, was initiated into Islam by a Fakir and when he got the

divine experience through Islam, he came back to his own religion, he

was not limited to "Learning", that time when he was into Islam, he

didnt do even Kali Puja. Whole story is given in all good bio-

graphies.

It's a hard core fact, there is no room for any confusion, As our

focus is astrology, we should try to find it out in his horoscope,

and It's not only thakur's horoscope, I have seen same kind of

influence in other's horoscope too if Sani/Rahu is placed in 9'th,

how effective it is, depends on other planets in the horoscope.

regards,

Lalit.

Vedic Astrologyandhealing ,

Chandrashekhar

<sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

>

> Dear Lalit,

>

> Did he convert to Islam? If so, when did he reconvert to Hinduism?

Will

> you find out. His learning what is Islam etc. does not mean giving

up

> dharma.

>

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> litsol wrote:

> >

> > Daer Sir,

> >

> > Namaskaar, I m sure and source of my information abt Sri

Ramkrishna's

> > taking up Islam for a small period is only Sri RamkKrishna

Leelamrit

> > and SriRamkrishna Charitamrit, one is published by Sri

Ramkrishna

> > Mission and the other one is written by Roma Rola (dont know

how

to

> > correctly spell his name)

> >

> > I have studied 4 - 5 biographies of Paramhansha, it's given

> > everywhere, it was Thakur, who told Vivekanada that Juesu's

nose

was

> > not straight, when Viekanada went to west, in one of the

library

he

> > got a pic drawn by hand like protrait, Jesus nose was like

that

only.

> >

> > Maata Aannada Mai had not taken Sanyas or Vanaprasthashrama,

she

had

> > no Guru also in real sense, (m not sure), She did not follow

her

> > grihasta dharam and even her husband for 8 years turned like

her

> > sishya, who was enough elder to her.

> >

> > Once maa happened to know she is a soul like God and then

never

> > looked back to worldly affairs.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing

> > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>,

Chandrashekhar

> > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Lalit,

> > >

> > > I think this is a sweeping statement. Are you certain

Ramakrishna

> > > Paramahamsa converted to either Christianity or Islam?

What is

the

> > > source of this information?

> > >

> > > By the way study of other Dharmas is not giving up one's

own

dharma

> > nor

> > > is change of ashram a change of Dharma. If we assume it

to be so

> > then

> > > all ancient kings who took Vanaprasthashrama will have

to be

> > labeled as

> > > having changed their Dharma. I think that would not be

correct.

> > What is

> > > your opinion?

> > >

> > > Take care,

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > litsol wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Aavesh Sir and Mr. Gopu,

> > > >

> > > > I w'd like to put one observation on Sani's

placement on

9'th, If

> > > > Sani is there on 9'th, At least once in life, the

person

changes

> > > > his/her defined dharma, though Sani is exalted in

Bhagwan Sri

> > > > RamKrishna Paramhansha's horoscope, He

switched to Islam and

> > > > Christianity, Same is true with Maata Aanadmai, she

also

changed

> > her

> > > > Grihastha dharma and went to Sanyaasa.

> > > >

> > > > I know one more Girl, whom i once liked, Vandana,

has also got

> > Saturn

> > > > in 9'th and she has strong inclination to

appreciate other

> > religions

> > > > than her own, she is much influenced by Islamic

Sufi system.

> > > >

> > > > I dont know what happened in case of Mr. Gopu, he

w'd also

have

> > > > better connection with or influence of some body

who is

averse to

> > Mr.

> > > > Gopu's defined dharma by tradition or inheritance.

However,

This

> > is

> > > > not a matured finding coz whole of horoscope is not

known.

> > > >

> > > > Also It's established now that 10'th house + Sun

combo should

be

> > > > taken for judgement of the affairs related to one's

Father. In

> > some

> > > > cases, 9'th can successfully indicate Father's

influence on a

> > native

> > > > coz Father is also a natural Guru or Preceptor to a

child.

> > > >

> > > > If required we can go for a comparision of 9'th +

Sun and

10'th +

> > Sun

> > > > combos.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lalit

> > > >

> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing

> > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>

> > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>,

aavesh t

> > > > <aavesh_s@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Mr Gopu,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for your input on this thread

> > > > >

> > > > > A small confusion: How can Shani Maharaj in

9th be in a

> > > > Dusthana ??

> > > > > (as you have mentioned in your mail)

> > > > >

> > > > > Kindly clarify

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > aavesh

> > > > >

> > > > > K Gopu <kgopu_24@> wrote:

> > > > > dear Mr.aavesh,

> > > > > saturn in the 9th if it is in a dustana house

in a

> > > > > native it can also affect the coborn because

of its

> > > > > aspect on the 3rd house from the lagna.

> > > > > I have saturn in the 9th from my vrichika

lagna. My

> > > > > younger brother died at the age of 3yrs and

also my

> > > > > relationship with my late father was also not

so good.

> > > > > I am sharing my life experience.

> > > > >

> > > > > good luck,

> > > > > k.gopu

> > > > >

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March 7, 2008

hare rama krishna

dear chandra sekhar ji ,

Thnak u

A chart will hav all planets and we hav to see chart as a whole too

But most strongly influencing planet will decide the system or sampradaya one may follow .Then we can find if the system was suitable on postumous analaysis .

but soul will serach iits own destiny .

depending kala desa and even paristithi the names may change

Thanks for u time and mail

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:>> Dear Sunil,> > I thought so, too. I agree that different grahas give different > pravrajyas if the classic pravrajya yoga of 4 or more grahas together is > present in a chart in certain bhavas. Saaji is right there.> > Chandrashekhar.> > sunil nair wrote:> >> > > >> > hare ramakrishna> >> > dear chandrasekhar ji> >> > > >> > Thakur never converted to islam ,he was following some islamic or > > sufis sampradayas and that time he was living like a muslim as he was > > in search of truth .Same applies to xianity .He never converted .> >> > > >> > same way he tested all known tantric rituals also> >> > > >> > Also saaji is rite abt saying diffrnt sampradayas in pravrajya .And > > diffrnt planets controls it .And he explained it beautifully .> >> > > >> > regrds sunil nair> >> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> >> > > >> >> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar > > sharma.chandrashekhar@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Lalit,> > >> > > Did he convert to Islam? If so, when did he reconvert to Hinduism? Will> > > you find out. His learning what is Islam etc. does not mean giving up> > > dharma.> > >> > > Chandrashekhar.> > >> > > litsol wrote:> > > >> > > > Daer Sir,> > > >> > > > Namaskaar, I m sure and source of my information abt Sri Ramkrishna's> > > > taking up Islam for a small period is only Sri RamkKrishna Leelamrit> > > > and SriRamkrishna Charitamrit, one is published by Sri Ramkrishna> > > > Mission and the other one is written by Roma Rola (dont know how to> > > > correctly spell his name)> > > >> > > > I have studied 4 - 5 biographies of Paramhansha, it's given> > > > everywhere, it was Thakur, who told Vivekanada that Juesu's nose was> > > > not straight, when Viekanada went to west, in one of the library he> > > > got a pic drawn by hand like protrait, Jesus nose was like that only.> > > >> > > > Maata Aannada Mai had not taken Sanyas or Vanaprasthashrama, she had> > > > no Guru also in real sense, (m not sure), She did not follow her> > > > grihasta dharam and even her husband for 8 years turned like her> > > > sishya, who was enough elder to her.> > > >> > > > Once maa happened to know she is a soul like God and then never> > > > looked back to worldly affairs.> > > >> > > > regards,> > > > Lalit.> > > >> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, Chandrashekhar> > > > sharma.chandrashekhar@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Lalit,> > > > >> > > > > I think this is a sweeping statement. Are you certain Ramakrishna> > > > > Paramahamsa converted to either Christianity or Islam? What is the> > > > > source of this information?> > > > >> > > > > By the way study of other Dharmas is not giving up one's own dharma> > > > nor> > > > > is change of ashram a change of Dharma. If we assume it to be so> > > > then> > > > > all ancient kings who took Vanaprasthashrama will have to be> > > > labeled as> > > > > having changed their Dharma. I think that would not be correct.> > > > What is> > > > > your opinion?> > > > >> > > > > Take care,> > > > > Chandrashekhar.> > > > >> > > > > litsol wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Aavesh Sir and Mr. Gopu,> > > > > >> > > > > > I w'd like to put one observation on Sani's placement on 9'th, If> > > > > > Sani is there on 9'th, At least once in life, the person changes> > > > > > his/her defined dharma, though Sani is exalted in Bhagwan Sri> > > > > > RamKrishna Paramhansha's horoscope, He switched to Islam and> > > > > > Christianity, Same is true with Maata Aanadmai, she also changed> > > > her> > > > > > Grihastha dharma and went to Sanyaasa.> > > > > >> > > > > > I know one more Girl, whom i once liked, Vandana, has also got> > > > Saturn> > > > > > in 9'th and she has strong inclination to appreciate other> > > > religions> > > > > > than her own, she is much influenced by Islamic Sufi system.> > > > > >> > > > > > I dont know what happened in case of Mr. Gopu, he w'd also have> > > > > > better connection with or influence of some body who is averse to> > > > Mr.> > > > > > Gopu's defined dharma by tradition or inheritance. However, This> > > > is> > > > > > not a matured finding coz whole of horoscope is not known.> > > > > >> > > > > > Also It's established now that 10'th house + Sun combo should be> > > > > > taken for judgement of the affairs related to one's Father. In> > > > some> > > > > > cases, 9'th can successfully indicate Father's influence on a> > > > native> > > > > > coz Father is also a natural Guru or Preceptor to a child.> > > > > >> > > > > > If required we can go for a comparision of 9'th + Sun and 10'th +> > > > Sun> > > > > > combos.> > > > > >> > > > > > regards,> > > > > > Lalit> > > > > >> > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>> > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, aavesh t> > > > > > <aavesh_s@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Mr Gopu,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks for your input on this thread> > > > > > >> > > > > > > A small confusion: How can Shani Maharaj in 9th be in a> > > > > > Dusthana ??> > > > > > > (as you have mentioned in your mail)> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Kindly clarify> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > aavesh> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > K Gopu <kgopu_24@> wrote:> > > > > > > dear Mr.aavesh,> > > > > > > saturn in the 9th if it is in a dustana house in a> > > > > > > native it can also affect the coborn because of its> > > > > > > aspect on the 3rd house from the lagna.> > > > > > > I have saturn in the 9th from my vrichika lagna. My> > > > > > > younger brother died at the age of 3yrs and also my> > > > > > > relationship with my late father was also not so good.> > > > > > > I am sharing my life experience.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > good luck,> > > > > > > k.gopu> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ________> > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals?> > > > > > > Find them fast with Search.> > > > > > http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?> > > > <http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?>> > > > category=shopping> > > > > > <http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?> > > > <http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?>> > > > category=shopping>> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > You are managing the Vedic Astrologyandhealing group through> > > > Grouply.> > > > > > > You to individual emails for this group. | Update your> > > > > > Subscription settings> > > > > > > 7 messages in this conversation, including this one | Add a> > > > comment> > > > > > > View this message on Grouply so you can rate, tag, bookmark, and> > > > > > see what others think about it.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Finance> > > > > > > It's Now Personal> > > > > > > Guides, news,> > > > > > > advice & more.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Y! 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March 8, 2008

dear Mr. lalith,

I do get to know abt other religions either thro

interaction with people in those religion or thro the

net. Probably this may be prevalent in most of the

individuals who do have faith in religion irrespective

of the placement of saturn in 9th. I jus belong to

this category with no inclination to change my

religious faith from my religion to Buddhism or

jainism or christianity. during my 30's a dentist who

has converted to christian explained to me as to why

he converted to christian. one reason he attributed

was that as a hindu he has cheated which GOd has not

corrected him. But in christianity he can go and

confess to god and that god absolves him of his sin

and this gives him a sense of confidence not to commit

such sins. whereas in our religion everything is

attributed to karma, ie if a man suffers it is his

karma. so complicated are our religious strictures. at

that point of time i was convinced with his reason for

his conversion.

I strongly feel that jus placement of saturn in 9th

alone will not be the reason to change any individual

to change their religion. U will have to see the 2nd

house which is the house of family, placement of

kethu, in particular when it is associated with moon.

Because moon controls the mind.

good luck

k.gopu

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