ratna and sambandha (Vistiji's Lecture on Gem Stones - questions)

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हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥

Dear Anuj and Swee, Namaskar

Sanjayji is likely to be unavailable for the next few weeks, but i'm

sure he will give a word or two once he is available.

 

I was born 21st November 1981 at 6:08 AM, Nairobi, Kenya.

In the case of PV Narasimha Rao who wore a coral, Mars is the WORST

enemy of his lagnesh Mercury according to the Panchada Sambandha

(tatkalika+naisargika). So the logic of friendship/enmity didn't work

here. Further Mars is lord of third and eighth houses for Virgo lagna.

He was born:

 

Rao, P.V. Narasimha

Date:          June 28, 1921

Time:          12:49:00 pm

Time Zone:     5:16:36 (East of GMT)

Place:         79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00"

 

Point is that we cannot take the lordship blindly. We must also see

planetary yogas as well.

If the lord of a bhava is in a parivartana or yuti with another planet,

it will give the results of the other planet when its gemstone is worn.

 

Example: Say for Aries Lagna Jupiter is in the sixth house and

Mercury is in the ninth - Parivartana Yoga exists between them. If a

Yellow Sapphire is worn for Jupiter, this will result in enmity,

diseases, etc. But, if an emerald is worn it will give fortune and

auspicious direction.

 

Now take the case of P.V. Narasimha Rao: Mars, Sun and Mercury are

joined in the tenth house in Gemini. Mercury is the lagnesh forming a

Bhadra Mahapurusha Yoga, whilst Sun and Mars are forming a Vipareeta

Raja Yoga through their conjunction as they are 12th, 3rd and 8th lords

in conjunction.

 

To protect and enhance the lagna we need to strengthen Mercury. But,

due to the yuti the wearing of the Emerald will enhance the effects of

Sun and Mars. So we need to advise either Sun or Mars. Of these Mars is

the most malefic and will exchange results with Mercury, hence, he was

advised to wear a Coral.

 

This principle will not work with the 2 latter types of sambandha

namely samdristi and dristi-parivartana, which are temporary in nature.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

 

--

 

Visti Larsen

email: visti

For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

 

 

 

Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote:

 

 

 

 

Namaste Visti,

 

In your case, Jupiter is a friend of lagna lord and a lord of trikona,

so Yellow Sapphire is most likely to suit you.

 

In my case, Rahu is in the 9th with Venus for Mithuna Lagna. Jupiter is

in 5th house aspected by Mars (10th), Rahu (9th) and Saturn (11th

house). Though I have many gemstones with me, I cannot wear Yellow

Sapphire or Citrine. Major problems start almost immediately.

 

I usually take white sapphire for Venus and it is likely to strengthen

the Rasis Taurus and Libra, instead of Pisces, apart from the graha

itself. Can you pass on your birth details if you do not mind?

 

My point is when a graha is a functional malefic and an enemy of Lagna

lord, should we wear its gemstone? My thoughts and experience tells -

No. Now, when I read your mail regarding Blue sapphire for uplifting

Saturn for Aries lagna, I get this doubt. I am passing this message to

Sohamsa as well as to Sri Swee.. and let us see what all have to say on

this matter.

 

I'd really like to hear Sanjayji's comments too. Hope he isn't busy.

 

Thanks and Regards

Anuj

 

 

 

 

 

On 12/9/06, Visti Larsen <

visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥

 

Dear Bharat, Namaskar

One of the best examples is myself. I have Scorpio Lagna and Rahu is

placed in the ninth house. Jupiter is joined Mercury in the eighth.

Initially i wore substitute stones for Jupiter. I.e. Yellow Citrine and

then a Heliodore... never a topaz though. After wearing my first

gemstone i spent the next 2-3 years traveling around the world and

learning Jyotish.

Prior to this i had made some 'blunders' in my education and was left

somewhat stuck in this matter. I subsequently began formal studies

again.

Recently i began wearing a white sapphire (white for Pisces) and whilst

I'm happy with the effects, I'm also uncomfortable with some flaws in

the actual gem. I blame this on my recent inability to pursue some

traveling, but lets see.

Yours sincerely,

 

 

--

 

Visti Larsen

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.

com

 

 

 

Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote:

 

 

 

 

Namaste Sri Visti

 

Can you cite some experiences where you have tried to raise the

strength of Rasi through gemstones and not of the malefic grahas that

the gemstone represent? Or point out a relevant article in Jyotish

digest pointing out the same.

 

If you remember, in a last thread when Yellow Sapphire was suggested

for Rahu in Ninth, I had specified that Yellow Sapphire just does not

suit me and causes many problems. I also like Sri Sanjay Rathji to

comment upon the same and share his thoughts too.

 

Thanks and Regards

Bharat (Anuj)

 

 

 

 

On 12/9/06, Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥

Dear Pranav, Namaskar

I'm happy that you are learning from the lectures. Btw. the mantra is

normally pronounced: Om Gurave Namah|

 

I must ask, who is sushma gupta which your email id had

written

in

it?

 

o Pratama prasna

The wearing of a blue sapphire is to make Capricorn more prominent, and

thus cause the exaltation of Mars. Similarly for Venus in own sign in

sixth/eighth we advise Yellow Sapphire to exalted Venus, and make

Pisces more prominent.

 

o Dvitiiya prasna

When a kendra lord is a malefic its effects can become very auspicious

in a dusthana house and form a vipareet raja yoga. This is not so for

benefics. For example: Saturn in twelfth for Vrishabha lagna is an

excellent Vipareet Raja Yoga, but Venus in twelfth for Capricorn lagna

definitely isn't.... unless the person travels abroad.

 

This follows the general principle that malefics are

auspicious

in

dusthanas, whilst benefics are auspicious in trikonas. That way Mars in

twelfth for Leo lagna can prove to be a powerful raja yoga, but

jealousy from others may remain due to its aspect on the sixth house

from lagna.

 

o Tritiiya prasna

There could be various reasons to advise a gemstone for the

ninth

house. If rahu is joined the ninth house or lord, or aspecting, then no

doubt a yellow sapphire should be worn... no matter the position of

Jupiter. In fact, if such a gemstone is not advised the luck of the

person simply won't start. Instead the person will be running in

circles.

 

Now, if in a case the lord of the ninth house lords an

inauspicious

house, and is ALSO placed in it, we have a problem. Example: for Aries

lagna, Jupiter in twelfth can cause separation from father, as it is

also ninth lord. In such cases only advise the gemstone if absolutely

necessary to avoid a greater evil (rahu, saturn, etc).

 

Yours sincerely,

--

Visti Larsen

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.

com

 

 

sushmagupta51 wrote:

 

 

 

 

!Om Gurveh Namah!

 

Dear Visti ji, Namaskar!

 

I had an opportunity to listen to your lectures on

Gem

stones, First of all I will like to thank you for doing the informative

lecture. It cleared a lot of doubts.

 

I have a couple of Qns:

1.       Prescription

of Blue sapphire :

 

You mention for :

- Aries/Scorpio Ascendant if Mars is in 8H/6H OR

- Taurus/Libra Ascendant if Ve in (6H/8H) recommend Blue sapphire.

 

a.       However

Aries is sign of debilitation of Saturn, moreover it is also a

Badhakesh. Is Blue sapphire still recommended? 

 

b.       Also

Taurus/Libra Asc what if Saturn is placed in bad house like 6H or 8H.

e.g. - Taurus asc – Venus and Saturn (exalted in 6H) in Libra, Is Blue

sapphire still recommended? 

 

 

2.       Strengthening

9th Lord:

 

Is it advisable to strengthen 9th Lord if it alongside owns one of the

malefic houses - 3,6,8,11,12?

e.g. - Aries   Asc Ju lords (9,12) houses

        Cancer Asc Ju lords (6,9) houses

 

Let me know when you get a moment.

 

Warm regards,

Pranav

 

 

 

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