SJC Delhi - doubts regarding curses-Brendan

June 2, 2003

In a message dated 6/1/2003 12:37:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time, anmar writes:

Hare Rama Krishna

Anna,

Thanks for your e-mail. We have to do a lot of work on this subject. I don't like all the labels that are used in medical astrology with little understanding of process - cosmogenesis and pathogenesis. The building blocks are there but much has to be understood and researched.

Regards,

Brendan

Dear Sarajit, dear Brendan,

Thank you for the insight which came to me tonight, after reading both Sarajit's and Brendan's posts.. Initial impetus for studying Jyotish came through Ayurveda, for me. I grew up in a 'primitive' country /in a best sense of the word/, and strong conviction about self-healing,

tradition much stronger in my family than any medical spectacular achievement of a cynism /Brendon's point/ called 'health industry". Years spent inside that industry, made me definitively convinced that there is no room for 'health' under that umbrella. Anti-Psychiatry approach was just another name for the same 'establishment'. Why is health, mental health in particular, so late in returning health to people, to their roots, when physics with Mr.Einstein gave up 'machine-like' cause-effect' system long time ago. I guess that's in the nature of 'industry', expensive health business, to grow itself out of proportion.

I was initially aware of the fact that only whole person can heal himself- also aware of the place of astrology in complex cosmos of life. I was fascinated by work of a German experienced health-practitioner, Ilona, who now co-ordinates KP list on the net, who's been amazingly proficient in both astrology and ayurveda. It was my /wrong/ understanding that I should digest and muster Jyotish astrology, before I come back to all, set aside, ayrvedic knowledge, Svoboda's, Frowley's etc..books. Now I see that Brendan message seems to be an eye-opener to jyotishi more experienced than myself, and that it's not just a 'List' that I missed to catch up with, but, as I kind of, knew from/on the beginning!!! -

an integral part of the SAME study. I knew that at the beginning, and as my knowledge of astrology grew that important facet has faded away!

Is that how 'natural healing' doctrine of our predecessors has been forgotten? Most likely.

I am very grateful for this insight, and this eclipse, which I greet with 'Hari' as per Sanjay's suggestion.

My curiosity has been intrigued by the fact that Brendan IS ayurvedic health practitioner and belongs somehow to this 'Free- Jyotish- Academy'!!!

Health is a complex issue, not less than life itself, which we also try to understand. Planet won't 'attack' own 'karaka' but that of the enemy, of course: Saturn will attack Mars' domain, BUT affliction is mutual, so Mars will attack Saturn , and likely its connection as well..Which of the two is stronger will decide the outcome of the 'battle'.

Who can be more helpful in deciphering this enigma than Ayrvedic practitioner, and Brendan is just that. I join my voice with Sarajit's to ask Brendan to share more, more often and tolerate our questions which will be numerous, now that 'secret' has been revealed.

Thank you Sarajit, thank you Brendan

Anna

June 2, 2003

In a message dated 6/1/2003 3:28:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ramadasrao writes:

Dear Ramdas Rao,

These labels do not describe paralysis. They may show the portion of the body that will be afflicted by paralysis but a more important issue is why will paralysis occur in the first place? Why not arthiritis? Can we distinguish between the two in a chart? No we cannot with our present knowledge.

Paralysis is due to tattwa and dosha. This has to be understood and if we can understand this we can heal the "disease" long before it manifests using herbs, lifestyle and diet.

Regards,

Brendan

Dear Sarajit,

I also told the same thing for the paralysis case which was discussed previously.The affliction to the central nervous system gives Paralysis and 3rd house of Natural zodiac ie.,Mithuna Rasi rules nervous system and So Budha also rules nervous system.This is also given in Krishneeyam,Dr.B.V.Raman's How to judge a Horoscope,Vol.No.1 .

With best regards,

Ramadas Rao.

June 6, 2003

Dear Zoran,

I mentioned that Mars rules blood when related to profession and not human body.

Again you have said that Shukra weak will break bones etc. However R. Santanam in his commentary on BPHS says that breakage of bones and its deceases are due to affliction to Sun and not Venus. Venus afflicted is said to affect Veerya and not Jupiter as suggested by you. I might be wrong, could you let me know the source of your information please?

Regadrs,

Chandrashekhar.

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Zoran Radosavljevic

varahamihira

Friday, June 06, 2003 5:05 AM

Re: |Sri Varaha| SJC Delhi - doubts regarding curses-Brendan

Om Namo Narayanaya,Dear Chandrakeshar,I cannot agree.. There is perfect order. When you say that Mangal rules blood it is not so. Chandra rules blood accoring to Parashar (saptha dhatu). It is true that Mangal is related to blood, but how? Mangal rules neech sign of Chandra so when is in bad position he would create Rakta- Dosha or blood related disease. Also, mangal rules bone marrow which is responsible for creation of red particles in blood. Anyway, below is my attempt:Rasa dhatu which is composed primarily of jala tattwa and kapha dosha is ruled by Mercury (prithvi) and provides nourishment to all the dhatus of the body. ZORAN: Mercury or Budha is neecha in Meen so Guru can deviate or aggriviate Rasa dhatu and is known for Kapha disordersHe is exalted in prithivi sign Kanya so jala tatwa can be well balanced by prithivi.Mamsa is composed primarily of earth and secondary fire and water and is ruled by Saturn (vayu). ZORAN:Shani is neecha in mesh, so when Mangal is afflicted, there will be terrible weakness in muscles and emaciation.Further, Shani is exalted in thula, so Vayu tatwa of tula can balance the mamsa to its best. Thus when shukra is well placed it will give nice and well formed body and musclesMeda dhatu is primarily jala tattwa and is ruled by Jupiter which is (akasha).ZORAN:Guru is exalted in karka (jala) so Jala Tatwa can balance Akash tatwa while Vayu Tatwa of Shani can aggriviate it..Asthi dhatu is composed of earth and ruled by the Sun (agni).ZORAN:Surya ruler of Asthi is weakend by Shukra (thula), so when shukra is weak, bones will be weak or erosive. Shukra is further weakened in Kanya , so Budh strength will give bony structure, due to its prithivi tatwaMajja dhatu is composed of jala tattwa and ruled by Mars (agni).ZORAN:Mangal or agni Tatwa is neecha in Kark ruled by Chandra (Jala), so weakness in chandra will aggriviate Majja dhatuShukra is composed of jala tattwa and ruled by Venus (jala).ZORAN: Shukra is neech in kanya ruled by budh, so budh is resposnible for weakness of Jala, while Exaltation ruler Guru (meen-jala) is responsible (children)for Shukra dhatu.. Can we try to explain it!Regards,BEST WISHESZoranChandrashekhar wrote:

Dear Brendan,

I failed to mention that Snayu-resha might also mean tendons. I shall try to delve more in ayurveda and attempt to answer soon. However I think trying to associate Dhatus(as in ayurveda) and Tatvas might create confusion. The reason is that Mars also rules over blood when looking at profession, and that is the reason why Medical Practioner and Armed forces come under its domain. Besides agni he is also Bhumiputra. So trying to relate Prithvi, jala,Agni and Aakasha tatwas to Dhatus might not really help. I think we should go to the primary nature of the planets, and deceases ruled over by them, to arrive at correct conclusions.

Of course, I am not as knowledgeable as you and could be wrong.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

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Bpfeeley

varahamihira

Wednesday, June 04, 2003 10:12 AM

Re: |Sri Varaha| SJC Delhi - doubts regarding curses-Brendan

In a message dated 6/3/2003 8:11:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, boxdel writes:Hare KrishnaDear Chandrasekar,We are wrestling with many basic issues but this makes it all the more worth while.I have understood Snayu to mean ligaments.But let me pose an additional problem on this subject. Rasa dhatu which is composed primarily of jala tattwa and kapha dosha is ruled by Mercury (prithvi) and provides nourishment to all the dhatus of the body. Rakta dhatu is composed primarily of fire and water and is said to be ruled by the Moon (jala). Mamsa is composed primarily of earth and secondary fire and water and is ruled by Saturn (vayu). Meda dhatu is primarily jala tattwa and is ruled by Jupiter which is (akasha).Asthi dhatu is composed of earth and ruled by the Sun (agni).Majja dhatu is composed of jala tattwa and ruled by Mars (agni).Shukra is composed of jala tattwa and ruled by Venus (jala).Can we try to explain it!Regards,Brendan

Dear Sarajit/Brendan and learned astrologers,If I may, does Parashar not indicate "Snayureshas" ( as against snayu which would mean Mucles)being ruled by Saturn? This could indicate ligaments or nerves, though most of the translations call this as muscles. Again nervous system is activated by brain top of the skull which is open in a child and later gets closed is known as Bramha Randrha(if I am not wrong). Bramha is the Adhidevata of Saturn. His description is Lame, emaciated which is what nerve related disorders lead to. Again his command over Vaayu and the fact that nerve stimulation is through electrical activities of brains involving multiple electrical receptors would suggest Saturn's ability to rule nerves (as against being nervous which relates to state of mind and would surely be ruled by Mercury/Moon).If I may further point out Masa means flesh and not muscles, if I know my language well. Muscles indicates strength and could in fact be ruled over by Mars( representing strength) as is marrow from which sustenance is drawn by the bone.Chandrashekhar.

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