SJC Delhi - doubts regarding curses

May 23, 2003

Dear Sarbani,

Would not Mars be appropriate? Saturn lord of the 8th is in 6/8 from 8th which is aspected by Mars the yogakaraka. Mars rules morrow(Majja) and if I am not mistaken Christopher has become paraplegic.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Sarbani Sarkar

SJC: Achyuta Gurukulam ; Varahamihira

Friday, May 23, 2003 2:37 PM

|Sri Varaha| SJC Delhi - doubts regarding curses

Dear Sanjayji and other Gurus,

(For those of you who may wonder why we don't put up our discussions on the list: we have class every Sunday as Shiv Pujan takes our classes. Prior to that Sanjayji used to take them. So our doubts get cleared in class itself. Once in a while when our teachers are absent, we are send notes and assignments by Sanjayji, in lieu of his absence. We then put up our questions on the list.)

In last Sundays class we were given an assignment on curses and how to read evil yogas in a chart. The two examples that we had to work on was Christopher Reeve's and Sri Rama's charts. Those present were Rohini Purang, Uma Purang, Saroj Tomar, Gaurav Varma, Deepika Sanghi, Suneet Kumar, Prashant Narang, Eric and myself.

We had a doubt regarding Rama's chart. Our class notes clearly stated that the graha drishti of at least two malefics were essential for a curse. Secondly, benefics which were being cursed, represented the person cursing. In Rama's chart Jupiter and Moon are being affected. Jupiter represents the curse of a Brahmin, in this case Maharshi Narada. Since Moon is conjoined Jupiter, it shows that the curse will be actualised through mother, that is Kaikeyai. But will Moon by itself also represent a second curse, a matri shaap, or Moon is only acting as a medium? Ideally Moon should also show a second curse, apart from executing Jupiter's curse. If so, then whose?

Will there be a pitri shaap as well? Sun is aspected by Saturn, Rahu and Mars. If not, why?

(For those who do not have Rama's chart: Lagna: Cancer with Jupiter and Moon, Saturn in 4th in Libra, Rahu in 6th in Sagittarius, Mars in 7th in Capricorn, Venus in 9th in Pisces, Sun in 10th in Aries, Mercury in 11th in Taurus and Ketu in 12th in Gemini. AL and UL are in Sagittarius.)

Christopher Reeve's chart has two curses. Since Saturn is linked to both of them, his fall of the horse and subsequent paralysis occurred in Saturn dasha. We were assigned to seek remedies for him. We were unanimous in feeling that a ugra rupa of Devi, like Kali, was the only remedy for him. His ishta is Venus, placed in Scorpio, and aspected only by Saturn (rashi drishti) from Cancer. Venus would imply Lakshmi. This is strengthened by the fact that Venus is in Libra in the 4th in Rashi. But some students felt that since Venus was in Scorpio it should be Chamunda. We need a clarification on that. His palana karta is Saturn in Cancer. Palana devata is usually Devi, so we opted for Kali. His BK is also Saturn. Saturn is thus linked to his ishta, palana devata and his BK. Saturn is the planet causing the fructification of both the curses in its dasha, while it was transiting his 8th house, forming kantaka from lagna and ardha-kantaka from Moon. (The Navamsa lagna is also in nidhanamsa with a pishacha badhak). Given all these indications everyone opted for Kali as the remedy.

The question also arises, will propitiation of Mercury, in the form of worship of Vishnu, help? The second curse is the worst, with Mercury being the lord of dusthanas, and the cause of his paralysis.

With best regards,

Sarbani

Best regards,

Sarbani

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May 24, 2003

SRI RAGHAVENDRAYA NAMAH OM KLIM KRISHNAAYA NAMAH

Dear Sarbaniji and other Gurus,

I had just gone through the chart of Christopher Steve and I found

his problem lies in 3rd house lord Budha ,the Karaka for nerves is

afflicted by Shani,the Karaka for muscles and both of them joined

with Surya,the Karaka for life force and bones etc.Now all these 3

planets are in earthy signs and in Makara another earthy sign,there

is Rahu and so we can say Rahu is also involved in creating this

problem to him.Rahu is the Karaka for stroke and a combination of

these planets made this gentleman paralysed.In the navamsha also

Budha is debilitaed and is with Surya in watery sign along with Shani

in Karka in watery sign showing the problem in feet and also

heart/lungs.When we check Drekkana chart also this can be confirmed

by the combination of Budha,Surya,and Rahu in Kanya ( the natural

Roga Stana ) and are with Shani in Vrishabha in earthy sign.

Now the problem of propitiation of planets.As Budha is the main

planet here,if he is propitiated properly his problems will overcome.

The problem has started during Surya Dasa and Budha's Antara which

was between 1-1-97 and 7-11-97 ( As per Kp Ayanamsha ).Now let us see

what Shastra tells about this Paralysis.

It says if a person in his previous life beats lavishly a horse and

ride on it and after it become old,not looking after it and beaten

and sent out of his house will suffer from Paralysis or Parshwa Vayu.

The remedy is also given.Performing 23000 Shani Japa followed by

Shani Shanti Homam,performing Chandrayana Homam,performing Sri Vishnu

Pooja and Maha Narayana Homam,procuring a silver idol of horse and

chant Ashwa Shanti Mantra and finally perform Sri Surya Namaskara

under a Ashwattha Tree and finally giving donation of the silver

horse idol will relieve of the Paralysis.

I hope this helps.

With best regards,

Ramadas Rao.

varahamihira , " Sarbani Sarkar " <sarbani@s...>

wrote:

> Dear Sanjayji and other Gurus,

>

> (For those of you who may wonder why we don't put up our

discussions on the

> list: we have class every Sunday as Shiv Pujan takes our classes.

Prior to

> that Sanjayji used to take them. So our doubts get cleared in class

itself.

> Once in a while when our teachers are absent, we are send notes and

> assignments by Sanjayji, in lieu of his absence. We then put up our

> questions on the list.)

>

> In last Sundays class we were given an assignment on curses and how

to read

> evil yogas in a chart. The two examples that we had to work on was

> Christopher Reeve's and Sri Rama's charts. Those present were

Rohini Purang,

> Uma Purang, Saroj Tomar, Gaurav Varma, Deepika Sanghi, Suneet Kumar,

> Prashant Narang, Eric and myself.

>

> We had a doubt regarding Rama's chart. Our class notes clearly

stated that

> the graha drishti of at least two malefics were essential for a

curse.

> Secondly, benefics which were being cursed, represented the person

cursing.

> In Rama's chart Jupiter and Moon are being affected. Jupiter

represents the

> curse of a Brahmin, in this case Maharshi Narada. Since Moon is

conjoined

> Jupiter, it shows that the curse will be actualised through mother,

that is

> Kaikeyai. But will Moon by itself also represent a second curse, a

matri

> shaap, or Moon is only acting as a medium? Ideally Moon should also

show a

> second curse, apart from executing Jupiter's curse. If so, then

whose?

>

> Will there be a pitri shaap as well? Sun is aspected by Saturn,

Rahu and

> Mars. If not, why?

>

> (For those who do not have Rama's chart: Lagna: Cancer with Jupiter

and

> Moon, Saturn in 4th in Libra, Rahu in 6th in Sagittarius, Mars in

7th in

> Capricorn, Venus in 9th in Pisces, Sun in 10th in Aries, Mercury in

11th in

> Taurus and Ketu in 12th in Gemini. AL and UL are in Sagittarius.)

>

> Christopher Reeve's chart has two curses. Since Saturn is linked to

both of

> them, his fall of the horse and subsequent paralysis occurred in

Saturn

> dasha. We were assigned to seek remedies for him. We were unanimous

in

> feeling that a ugra rupa of Devi, like Kali, was the only remedy

for him.

> His ishta is Venus, placed in Scorpio, and aspected only by Saturn

(rashi

> drishti) from Cancer. Venus would imply Lakshmi. This is

strengthened by the

> fact that Venus is in Libra in the 4th in Rashi. But some students

felt

> that since Venus was in Scorpio it should be Chamunda. We need a

> clarification on that. His palana karta is Saturn in Cancer.

Palana devata

> is usually Devi, so we opted for Kali. His BK is also Saturn.

Saturn is thus

> linked to his ishta, palana devata and his BK. Saturn is the planet

causing

> the fructification of both the curses in its dasha, while it was

transiting

> his 8th house, forming kantaka from lagna and ardha-kantaka from

Moon. (The

> Navamsa lagna is also in nidhanamsa with a pishacha badhak). Given

all these

> indications everyone opted for Kali as the remedy.

>

> The question also arises, will propitiation of Mercury, in the form

of

> worship of Vishnu, help? The second curse is the worst, with

Mercury being

> the lord of dusthanas, and the cause of his paralysis.

>

> With best regards,

>

> Sarbani

>

> Best regards,

>

> Sarbani

May 25, 2003

Dear Ramdasji and Chandrashekharji,

Thank you very much for your inputs. We are talking of Moola Dasa here. Sanjayji had given us class notes on how to study curses and to study Moola Dasa along with it. It was a very specific exercise. We were following the steps as outlined by him. He had also given us pointers as to what else to look into charts when seeing curses, like the devatas, for example. So we were merely following the guideline, and hence did not look into vimshottari and Narayana dasas.

Christopher Reeve, was paralysed from his neck downwards. So apart from his head, his whole body was in paralysis. Our notes explained, that Rahu cut off the head and Mercury signified nervous systems which resulted in paralysis from neck downwards. The event occurred in Saturn Moola Dasha, while Saturn was transiting the 8th house, Aquarius, causing Kantaka from Lagna and Ardha Kantaka from tha Moon. The Navamsa lagna is also in nidhanamsa. Saturn was the triggering planet as it was involved in both curses, but here we took the 2nd curse, that is involving Mercury, (as one primary curse operates) as that was the stronger curse.

Best regards,

Sarbani

Chandrashekhar [boxdel]Sunday, May 25, 2003 2:14 AMvarahamihira Subject: Re: |Sri Varaha| SJC Delhi - doubts regarding curses

Dear Sarbani,

So Mars is still connected. Since the injuries would obviously lead to loss of profession and Mars afflicting Moon plus owning the 5tn and the 10th, I thought that Mars would be appropriate. Again Lord of the 6th Jupiter is placed in 10th indicating the connection of his decease with 10th house.Another reason was that in navamsha too Moon make a Gajakesari Yoga. Moon is also Lord of the Ascendant,whereas Mercury is in debilitation in Navamsha. In Natal Chart he is lord of the 12th in 3rd causing a VRY of sorts. I did not know exact nature of his injuries. I do not know, but in the chart attached by you, the Saturn Mahadasha starts in 2050. So I suppose you mean Saturn Mahadasha, what was the Mahadasha at the time of occurence of the accident and the Transit position of Mercury, Saturn, Mars and Jupiter then please?

Chandrashekhar.

-

Sarbani Sarkar

varahamihira

Saturday, May 24, 2003 7:57 PM

RE: |Sri Varaha| SJC Delhi - doubts regarding curses

Dear Chandrashekharji,

Reeve became paralysed from a spinal cord injury following a fall from a horse. Paralysis implies the nervous system, hence the choice for Mercury. If you see his chart, there are two curses, one in the 3rd and the other in the 5th house. In the 5th house, Mars and Saturn are afflicting Moon. In the third, Saturn and Rahu are afflicting Mercury, who is also lord of two dusthanas. The 3rd house curse is stronger. Saturn being the common factor in both curses, the fall occurred in Saturn dasha as I mentioned in the earlier post. Mercury caused the nervous system problem. Apparently he is now better. Here's what I found on the web:

Since his injury six years ago, Reeve has regained the ability to move his right wrist, the fingers of his left hand, and his feet. He can now feel a pin prick on the majority of his body and can move some of his joints voluntarily.

Best regards,

Sarbani

Chandrashekhar [boxdel]Saturday, May 24, 2003 12:29 AMvarahamihira Subject: Re: |Sri Varaha| SJC Delhi - doubts regarding curses

Dear Sarbani,

Would not Mars be appropriate? Saturn lord of the 8th is in 6/8 from 8th which is aspected by Mars the yogakaraka. Mars rules morrow(Majja) and if I am not mistaken Christopher has become paraplegic.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Sarbani Sarkar

SJC: Achyuta Gurukulam ; Varahamihira

Friday, May 23, 2003 2:37 PM

|Sri Varaha| SJC Delhi - doubts regarding curses

Dear Sanjayji and other Gurus,

(For those of you who may wonder why we don't put up our discussions on the list: we have class every Sunday as Shiv Pujan takes our classes. Prior to that Sanjayji used to take them. So our doubts get cleared in class itself. Once in a while when our teachers are absent, we are send notes and assignments by Sanjayji, in lieu of his absence. We then put up our questions on the list.)

In last Sundays class we were given an assignment on curses and how to read evil yogas in a chart. The two examples that we had to work on was Christopher Reeve's and Sri Rama's charts. Those present were Rohini Purang, Uma Purang, Saroj Tomar, Gaurav Varma, Deepika Sanghi, Suneet Kumar, Prashant Narang, Eric and myself.

We had a doubt regarding Rama's chart. Our class notes clearly stated that the graha drishti of at least two malefics were essential for a curse. Secondly, benefics which were being cursed, represented the person cursing. In Rama's chart Jupiter and Moon are being affected. Jupiter represents the curse of a Brahmin, in this case Maharshi Narada. Since Moon is conjoined Jupiter, it shows that the curse will be actualised through mother, that is Kaikeyai. But will Moon by itself also represent a second curse, a matri shaap, or Moon is only acting as a medium? Ideally Moon should also show a second curse, apart from executing Jupiter's curse. If so, then whose?

Will there be a pitri shaap as well? Sun is aspected by Saturn, Rahu and Mars. If not, why?

(For those who do not have Rama's chart: Lagna: Cancer with Jupiter and Moon, Saturn in 4th in Libra, Rahu in 6th in Sagittarius, Mars in 7th in Capricorn, Venus in 9th in Pisces, Sun in 10th in Aries, Mercury in 11th in Taurus and Ketu in 12th in Gemini. AL and UL are in Sagittarius.)

Christopher Reeve's chart has two curses. Since Saturn is linked to both of them, his fall of the horse and subsequent paralysis occurred in Saturn dasha. We were assigned to seek remedies for him. We were unanimous in feeling that a ugra rupa of Devi, like Kali, was the only remedy for him. His ishta is Venus, placed in Scorpio, and aspected only by Saturn (rashi drishti) from Cancer. Venus would imply Lakshmi. This is strengthened by the fact that Venus is in Libra in the 4th in Rashi. But some students felt that since Venus was in Scorpio it should be Chamunda. We need a clarification on that. His palana karta is Saturn in Cancer. Palana devata is usually Devi, so we opted for Kali. His BK is also Saturn. Saturn is thus linked to his ishta, palana devata and his BK. Saturn is the planet causing the fructification of both the curses in its dasha, while it was transiting his 8th house, forming kantaka from lagna and ardha-kantaka from Moon. (The Navamsa lagna is also in nidhanamsa with a pishacha badhak). Given all these indications everyone opted for Kali as the remedy.

The question also arises, will propitiation of Mercury, in the form of worship of Vishnu, help? The second curse is the worst, with Mercury being the lord of dusthanas, and the cause of his paralysis.

With best regards,

Sarbani

Best regards,

Sarbani

|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira