Logging out (Gayatri and more )

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Dear Shri Narasimha Rao

Your ego is talking and writing.There was no need for sarcasm

towards Shri Ramadas Rao. You may have invented the " software " that

doesn't give you leverage to use this kind of language with quoted

marks towards an older man. There was nothing ofensive in his

writing.

With Best Regards

Yamini

 

sohamsa , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr

wrote:

>

> Dear Sri Ramadas Rao,

>

> Thank you for your " elders' view " ! I appreciate them.

>

> * * *

>

> Dear Sanjay,

>

> > my objecting to that humming sound which he calls gayatri

>

> I have clarified many times that I do NOT call the " humming sound "

Gayatri. The humming sound is the tune that captures the accents

that are supposed to be used as per the standard Rigvedic intonation

scheme when chanting Gayatri. It is merely a resource for helping

people in pronouncing Gayatri and it itself is not Gayatri.

>

> Despite several clarifications, I continue to be grossly

misrepresented.

>

> > Nobody should claim that they are right.

>

> I never claimed I am right or perfect. I made a sincere effort to

learn and to share the sharable part of what I learnt with others.

Those who find it useful can use it and others can leave it. That's

all.

>

> > I also took objection to his advising people not to chant this

loudly.

>

> Did I advise others? I only said *I* will not chant loud, when you

asked me to do so. Others may do as they find appropriate! It's not

my business.

>

> * * *

>

> Dear Probodh,

>

> > Why it is given in Karna(right) at the time of Upanayan?

> >

> > The simple reason could be that it is reffered as GuruMukha.

Every

> > vedic Mantra must be taken from the Mukha of Guru.The mantra

should

> > be taken from GuruMukha in right Karna(Ear).

>

> As you said above, mantropadesa in GuruMukha is very vital in

tradition. And, when one gets a mantra from GuruMukha, we believe

that there are some karmik implications.

>

> I do not want to give the mantra in " GuruMukha " to everybody.

Those who got it from GuruMukha, forgot it and need help in

restarting will get some indirect help from me.

>

> * * *

>

> As I see, the purpose of this thread has been served. I thank all

the friends who participated in the thread and the moderators of all

the who tolerated this non-Jyotish discussion. I humbly

apologize to anyone that I have offended unknowingly.

>

> I wrote what my limited intellect could absorb from what was given

to me by the Mother and my guru.

>

> I am logging out of this thread now.

>

> Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu,

> Narasimha

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>

> sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao@> wrote:

> >

> > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH

> > OM NAMO NARAYANAYA

> > Dear Sanjay Ji,

> > I was reading your mail about the Holy Gayatri Mantra and your

discussion with Chi.Narasimha from many days.Here are my views or

you can consider this as my elders' view.During Uapanayana,both the

Vatu and his father will be covered by white cloth,the Vatu sitting

on his father's lap,father will slowly chant Gayatri Mantra on his

ears,so that others should not listen this Holy Initiation of

Gayatri Mantra.Even I initiated Gayatri Mantra to my son in 1989

during his Upanayana.This Mantra is such a secret, sacred and Holy

Mantra,that no evil person listen this Mantra.As we know that there

are 24 letters in this Mantra,it contains the main 24 Devathas in

these letters.This Mantra is not such other Mantras which can be

chanted so loudly through loud speakers.If any other person has to

chant this Holy Mantra he should get the initiation of this Holy

Mantra from a Gayatri Mantra Upasaka or Sadhaka.Anyhow as per my

knowledge,this Mantra can not be chanted loudly in government

> > offices or any other places.This Holy Mantra's sacredness has

to be protected.

> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

> > Ramadas Rao.

> >

> >

> > Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath@> wrote:

> >  | om gurave namah |

> > Dear Pandit Arjun

> > Now you see the difference I have with Narasimha about *right

intonation* and the reasons for my objecting to that humming sound

which he calls gayatri! Nobody should claim that they are right. I

also took objection to his advising people not to chant this loudly.

I stand by my statement that if this is played in government

offices, even at low volume, just as *vahe guru* is played in the

Punjab Bank HQ, corruption will come down to nil.

> > The Gäyatri parivar has done a remarkable job in such a short

time. I was in Orissa and even in Aska and Kodala they have done

very well. The MLA Sri Kishore Chandra Singh Deo was really all

praises for their good work.

> > However on the issue of saying the gayatri mantra even once, I

have already lodged my protest with his guru. Frankly, I think both

will need to think on this or consult their seniors in their

tradition (I hope someone is around). If you have to give something,

give it well. Your analogy of the parrot (Matangi defined really)

was excellent but then Ramanuja disobeyed his guru and gave the

mantra *om namo naarayanaaya* to the world.

> > Actually there is something bigger happening which none can

see but it was an eye-opener for me. It is the way of Jagannath to

show me that this sishya of mine does not have such a big heart as I

thought he did, or perhaps Jagannath is opening his heart, slowly

but surely. Prabodh's point is very right as it can only be a

selfish intent that can prevent him from giving what his heart says

must be given. Why has he done all this in the forst place? Because

his heart says that he must give.

> > Of course we should not forget that he has Sun in the 7th

house (the hridaya as per Jaimini) and let us see how well he can

give this that is there in his heart. Can he be another Yajyavalkya?

> > " Extract from my paper for the SJC West Coast pre-conference "

> > URW Palladio font 7. Püñä: He is the giver of cattle and

animal wealth, pets, etc. He is the creator of the Indra-jala

(Indra’s net). [Read story of Vaishampayan and Yajnavalkya †"

Püñäditya was his Guru in the form of a horse and taught him the

Yajur-veda mantras, at midday]

> > mantra om ghåëi püñaëe namaù or om hiraëyagarbhäya

namaù or om hiraëyaretase namaù

> > 7th House: Reta/Libra;

> > Offer: Ghee + sweet rice

> > Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

> > Best wishes and warm regards,

> > Sanjay Rath

>