Jyotish Origins (Chandrashekarji)

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Dear Chandrashekarji,

You are right Sir.Panditji is a very wise man

I will narrate an interesting incident which occured when I was looking to get married:

There was a proposal from a girl who I liked ( the feeling was mutual).I went to Panditji with her chart.

He looked at it for a minute and declared that the girl must be a Doctor (She was a dentist in fact).He predicted that the girl will make for an ideal wife but I will not get married to her.He further added that my wife will be the youngest in her family (This girl was the eldest and had a younger brother)

Needless to add,both these predictions proved to be accurate (My wife is the youngest in her family)

I consider myself fortunate to have met such a great Jyotishi like him

Regards,

aavesh

P.S:Panditji never explained the rationale for his predictions (inspite of my requests on several ocassions)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:>> Dear Aavesh,> > The advise to become Bhimsen in Jyotish, and not an orchestra player > there in, was a sound one. I am sure that applies to all sciences that > one wishes to follow. Professor Panditji appears to be a very wise man.> > Take care,> Chandrashekhar.> > > aavesh t wrote:> > Namaskar Chandrashekarji,> > > > Thanks for your good wishes and blessings.> > > > From the descrption of your friend, I have not met him (a real pity > > considering the treasure house of Jaimini books that are in his> > care)> > > > I enjoyed my interactions with the Jyotishis of Pune immensely.> > I had the good fortune of meeting an old professor of Sanskrit in Pune > > University who is the best Jyotishi I have met to date (His name is> > Professor Pandit)> > > > He is a remarakable man.He was close to 75 years when I met him last > > (4 years back).He just has to look at your chart for two minutes and > > he will make a prediction after reciting some Mantra.> > > > His predictions have been amazingly accurate in my case (exact dates > > of getting jobs,marriage etc)> > > > The first time I met him and told him about my interest in Jyotish,he > > gave me a piece of advice 'Be a Bhimsen Joshi,do not be a orchestra> > player'.I treasure this advice to this day.> > > > It is really my good fortune to have met such a great man> > > > Regards,> > > > aavesh> >> >> > */Chandrashekhar sharma.chandrashekhar/* wrote:> >> > Dear Aavesh,> >> > Thank you for the kind wishes. May the Lord bring prosperity and> > happiness to you in this new year.> >> > I am sure you enjoyed meeting the learned Jyotishis of Pune.> >> > The Ravindra Bhagwat, that I am talking about, is not an> > astropalmist neither is he a professional astrologer. He has the> > maximum collection on texts on Jaimini that I know of and does> > give lectures on Jaimini astrology at Jyotish conferences, sometimes.> >> > Take care,> > Chandrashekhar.> >> >> >> > aavesh t wrote:> >> Dear Chandrashekarji,> >> > >> WISH YOU A HAPPY NEW YEAR> >> > >> I am sorry for the delay in replying to this mail.I have been> >> fortunate to meet some good Jyotishis in Pune during my stay there> >> > >> *If I may ask: Is your friend Ravindra Bhagwat a Astroplamist ??*> >> ** > >> *I am asking this as I recall meeting a Jyotishi with a similar> >> name *> >> ** > >> *Regards,*> >> ** > >> *aavesh*> >>> >>> >> */Chandrashekhar sharma.chandrashekhar/* wrote:> >>> >> Dear Aavesh,> >>> >> That is true. I have some copies of manuscripts from there,> >> courtesy my astrologer friend Ravindra Bhagwat.> >> Chandrashekhar.> >>> >> aavesh t wrote:> >>> Namaskar RKDa,> >>> > >>> Nice to get your thoughts on this important topic.> >>> > >>> _Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute in Pune (on> >>> Bhandarakar Road next to FTII) also has some rare> >>> manuscripts on Jyotish and Indology_> >>> > >>> I have personally been there on one ocassion and can vouch> >>> for the vast amount of literature on view (Quite a bit was> >>> burnt in the fire which engulfed the institute about 4 years> >>> back)> >>> > >>> Lovers of Jyotish/Ayurveda would do well to pay a visit to> >>> this hallowed institution> >>> > >>> Regards,> >>> > >>> aavesh> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> */rk dash arkaydash/* wrote:> >>>> >>> Members, scholars:> >>> The thread has served a purpose, that of acquainting> >>> many of us with what was what by consolidating some of> >>> our vague impressions. While Shree Chandrshekhar has put> >>> things in perspective, Sunil Saab has done his bit of> >>> good by voicing the little biases here and there. I> >>> agree (with him) that the tradition can go on and on,> >>> any clime, anytime. North it was. South retains> >>> vibrancy. As much as it is touted to do? Sadly we> >>> haven't as many, perhaps hardly any, able astrology> >>> sooth-sayers as we should.> >>> > >>> Aavesh tells us something of immediacy: the bookstore in> >>> Gaya. Thank you, Aavesh, for taking us to Mannulal> >>> Pustakalaya. Will someone please confirm it still> >>> functions?> >>> > >>> RK> >>> > >>> On 25/12/2007, *aavesh t* aavesh_s >>> <aavesh_s wrote:> >>>> >>> Namsakar Chandrashekarji,> >>> > >>> A very enlightening mail from you Sir.> >>> > >>> I beg your pardon for stepping into what is a> >>> dialogue between you and Sunliji.My two cents on the> >>> issue under discussion :> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> I think what is being forgotten is that Varanasi> >>> was the most highly regarded seat of learning of> >>> hindu shastras for long. To establish one's> >>> authority on hindu shastras, one had to defeat> >>> the Pandits of Varanasi in discussions based on> >>> Tarka and Pramana. Jyotish being one of the main> >>> hindu shastras, saying that astrological> >>> tradition in north was not common is perhaps far> >>> from truth.> >>> > >>> *You have made a very valid point Sir.Varanasi> >>> has indeed been a focal point for Jyotish> >>> studies.The contributions of Pundits like> >>> Sitaram Jha to Jyotish are really a benchmark.*> >>> ** > >>> *Incidentally the 'Mannulal Pustakalya' in Gaya> >>> is another place where Jyotish manuscripts are> >>> available (I am not sure whether it is currently> >>> open though)> >>>> >>> *By the way, Varaha Mihira was with the King of> >>> Ujjain. > >>> > >>> *Ujjain (Ujjayani) has been the other> >>> important city for Jyotish studies since the> >>> time of Varahamihira.Prithyuyashas (credited to> >>> be the son of Varahamihira) has also written a> >>> seminal work on Jyotish known as 'Hora Sara' (In> >>> my opinion the best classic in delieneting the> >>> effects of planets in various Bhavas) *> >>>> >>> I do not think I have denied existence of> >>> families with long tradition of jyotish being in> >>> existence in South India. Incidentally, my> >>> family also comes from South India and we have> >>> our own long unbroken parampara in jyotish,> >>> coming through my maternal grandmother's side of> >>> family. But that does not mean there were no> >>> such families in north of India.> >>> > >>> *Very True Sir.Even today Ujjain has got some> >>> very renowned Jyotish families who have a long> >>> tradition of practicing Jyotish> >>> *> >>>> >>> I do not think we are doing the divine science> >>> any service by bringing the north south regional> >>> divide in to the discussions that began with> >>> Parashara being one of the Pravartakas.> >>> > >>> *Very true Sir.This has been the bane of Jyotish> >>> and has occupied considerable time and space on> >>> various groups.The important thing is to treat> >>> Jyotish as a Vedanga and not get into too many> >>> controversies on origins which will just serve> >>> to waste valuable time and space *> >>>> >>> *Regards,*> >>> ** > >>> *aavesh> >>> *> >>> sunil nair wrote:> >>>> > >>>> hare ramakrishna ,> >>>> respected chandrasekhar ji .> >>>> I think we r discussing some thing with> >>>> imotional attachments and not willing to see> >>>> the truth.> >>>> u r willing to accept that astrology originated> >>>> from sivaji and also many ppl ascribe to> >>>> different gods or rishi kulas (sapta rishis).> >>>> even vedas discuss some astrology where as> >>>> parashara was no where during veda period .> >>>> Also in parasari the dasavatar is discussed as> >>>> planetary devatas where as the oldest> >>>> worshipping god in india by all means siva is> >>>> not mentioned .(Atleast my information )> >>>> then 18 pravarthakas like brahma ,narada is> >>>> learned from parasara if u go by ur versions.> >>>> also the astrological tradition in north and> >>>> bphs was not very common in north also as may> >>>> be various reason .> >>>> from varahamihira tovenkitesha daivagna(marathi> >>>> astrology families ) whose family migrated to> >>>> varanasi ,after a long gap in astrology .> >>>> oldest versions of bphs we got from south and> >>>> also from many collectors in west and still> >>>> some blv the compendium called available bphs> >>>> its self is corrupted and incomplete .> >>>> Also many dasas ,if u go by parasari itself> >>>> ,not explained in it .where as avilable in many> >>>> part of india in detail ,example yogini dasa .> >>>> so if we can forget all this then ur argument> >>>> is correct .> >>>> even now long standing families in astro is in> >>>> south except the claim or truth of pt sanjay> >>>> raths orissa tradition.> >>>> Yes kerala also during the hight of budhism ,as> >>>> asoka and his dughter sangamitra came to kerala> >>>> and sent budhistmonks all over world tru kerala> >>>> ports and budhism s contribution to astro was> >>>> almost meagre> >>>> Then brahmins ( still in kerala sanskrit and> >>>> all traditions are vibrant with all> >>>> communities) learned astro from other> >>>> communities and they started again more vibrant> >>>> .But kerala has ppl from all castes as> >>>> astrologers or u name anythings abt indian> >>>> sciences and mutualy r gurus to each other> >>>> .Here No caste system worked out ,even the> >>>> sanskrit tradition was like that .> >>>> And when king of travancore ,kerala started a> >>>> sanskrit college under the chairman ship of his> >>>> son krishnan nair ( as to re direct his anti> >>>> british activites -he was funding irish> >>>> republican army ) the OBC students got first> >>>> ranks in schools and fianaly krishnan nair has> >>>> given one of his palace as college in kerala as> >>>> other college was in a tamil brahmin village> >>>> known as agraharam and they objected it .> >>>> > >>>> so they r using more varahmihira ,aryabhatta> >>>> and bhaskara traditions and parameshara s> >>>> drigganita which corrected surya sidhnata and> >>>> planetary positions.> >>>> > >>>> Also i find in jaimini the system of katapayadi> >>>> which is only popular in kerala .sri vara ruchi> >>>> was propounder of this system and any body> >>>> authored any books we can understand its year> >>>> of writing by katapayadi methods again i am> >>>> yet to find any book in north in sanskrit using> >>>> it .> >>>> > >>>> In parasari u find jaimini and jaimini some> >>>> says differrent .Some says jaimini is sisya of> >>>> parasara -then y he said jaimini sutra instead> >>>> parasari?? who proceeds who ?? if we argue we> >>>> can say both ,and jaimini uses the keralas> >>>> prevalent katapayadi system .So many things we> >>>> can co relate >and here i am not bringing> >>>> anything religionalism or what ever .But in a> >>>> debate every thing will spring up .That is the> >>>> reason atleast with indians and hindus i avoid> >>>> it as then they will start things imotionaly> >>>> .Showing the non maturity and dont know even> >>>> how to participate in a discussions> >>>> so so many unanswered questions are there .> >>>> so we can agree to disagree here and let us> >>>> close this tread which is no way contributing> >>>> for the study .> >>>> > >>>> regrds sunil nair> >>>> om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> >>>> Vedic Astrologyandhealing > >>>> <Vedic Astrologyandhealing ,> >>>> Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:> >>>> >> >>>> > Dear Sunil,> >>>> >> >>>> > Beliefs and truth are sometimes at variance.> >>>> Again many of the Kerala> >>>> > astro texts give greater importance to Varaha> >>>> Mihira than other and> >>>> > earlier texts, as with Prashna Marga. So they> >>>> are of apparently a later> >>>> > date. Deva Keralam quotes liberally from many> >>>> of the pravartakas. This> >>>> > is but natural.> >>>> >> >>>> > I think that since the shastra originated> >>>> with Lord Shiva as do all> >>>> > shastras emanate from him, him being the Adya> >>>> Guru, it is natural that> >>>> > there would be more than one pravartaka to> >>>> spread the knowledge in Jambu> >>>> > Dvipa.> >>>> >> >>>> > BPHS is certainly a compendium of all that> >>>> was attributed to Parashara.> >>>> > But there were some manuscripts named> >>>> Parashari that were also> >>>> > discovered in north of India. So not all> >>>> editions are based on shlokas> >>>> > collected from those who remembered them.> >>>> >> >>>> > Take care,> >>>> > Chandrashekhar.> >>>> >> >>>> > sunil nair wrote:> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > > Hare ramakrishna,> >>>> > >> >>>> > > respected chandrasekhar ji .> >>>> > >> >>>> > > even i dont think its skanda who wrote the> >>>> skanda hora ,but that is> >>>> > > the blv in south among some sects of ppl.> >>>> > >> >>>> > > Parasara tho now source commonly available> >>>> ,but u know there is more> >>>> > > explained texts still in circulation.Even u> >>>> know deva kerala has more> >>>> > > detailed descriptions .> >>>> > >> >>>> > > so all this make me blve parasari is a> >>>> compendium of all astrological> >>>> > > priciples waht ever avilable to him and got> >>>> corrupted later to great> >>>> > > extent .> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > > because as u said the variation and> >>>> different apraoch available with> >>>> > > even available resources make me think> >>>> logicaly .> >>>> > >> >>>> > > also among the 18 paracharak s parasara> >>>> stands last in the list .if> >>>> > > one is propounder then why there is> >>>> mentions abt 18 ones.> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > > regrds sunil nair> >>>> > >> >>>> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > > --- In> >>>> Vedic Astrologyandhealing > >>>> <Vedic Astrologyandhealing ,> >>>> Chandrashekhar> >>>> > > sharma.chandrashekhar@ wrote:> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > > Dear Sunil,> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > > It is said that "laxam vyakaranam proktam> >>>> chaturlaxam tu jyotisham"> >>>> > > > indicating existence of many jyotish> >>>> texts. It is difficult to date> >>>> > > most> >>>> > > > of the really ancient texts as they were> >>>> never in the form of texts but> >>>> > > > shlokas carried in the memory of the> >>>> shishyas. So antiquity of a> >>>> > > > manuscript and existence of a grantha> >>>> through memory are two different> >>>> > > > matters. That again is why it is> >>>> difficult to establish the> >>>> > > antiquity of> >>>> > > > many Hindu texts.> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > > Anyway, it remains a fact that in the> >>>> north India Sage Parashara is> >>>> > > > treated as one of the principal source of> >>>> astrological principles. I> >>>> > > > have not yet seen Skanda hora and> >>>> therefore can not comment on its> >>>> > > > antiquity. However it is certainly not> >>>> written by Lord Skanda.> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > > The dasha interpretation is available in> >>>> text and manuscript form as> >>>> > > > Laghu Parashari or Ududaaya Pradeep.> >>>> Actually there is also one Madhya> >>>> > > > Parashari. This generated in the interest> >>>> in searching fro the> >>>> > > Parashari> >>>> > > > and that led to finding manuscripts which> >>>> were named as Brihat> >>>> > > Parashara> >>>> > > > Hora Shastra. besides the manuscripts, an> >>>> attempt was made to collect> >>>> > > > the shlokas carried in memory by the> >>>> astrologers of yore and these also> >>>> > > > find place in some of the editions of BPHS.> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > > Take care,> >>>> > > > Chandrashekhar.> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > > sunil nair wrote:> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > > hare ramakrishna ,> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > > respected chandra sekhar ji .> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > > I never said parasaras contributions r> >>>> nothing.> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > > Again my guru told me the jyothishas> >>>> first reference shows its rishi> >>>> > > > > lagadha who we can say first mentiond> >>>> name but his books or hora is> >>>> > > > > not available ,but going by ref ,it> >>>> shows may be bc 8000 or 10000 as> >>>> > > > > he was mentioned in many literature> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > > But literature says 18 pravarthakas> >>>> ,parasara is one .Even i think> >>>> > > > > varahamihira says .Kerala books also> >>>> mentiones so .> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > > what i said is skanda hora is available> >>>> oldest test pre dating> >>>> > > > > parasara tho i dont see it .> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > > and since i am far away from home my> >>>> main library is there back home .> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > > what i was pointing out is lot of> >>>> literature on various technics r> >>>> > > > > still scattered in different texts and> >>>> even parampara ,> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > > I heard some dasa parasara uses only 4> >>>> lines to describe ,but if u go> >>>> > > > > to some part of india ,u can find its> >>>> safely preserved as a full> >>>> > > blown> >>>> > > > > system with some families .> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > > so from where they got it ,from BPHS or> >>>> it was codyfied in BPHS> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > > thanks u for ur valuable advise> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > > regrds sunil nair> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > > --- In> >>>> Vedic Astrologyandhealing > >>>> <Vedic Astrologyandhealing ,> >>>> Chandrashekhar> >>>> > > > > sharma.chandrashekhar@ wrote:> >>>> > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > Dear Sunil,> >>>> > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > I think that is not strictly correct.> >>>> If you read the chapter on> >>>> > > > > > Ashtakavarga carefully you will> >>>> understand why I say this. Skanda is> >>>> > > > > > said to have created Samudrik shastra> >>>> and only because there is> >>>> > > a text> >>>> > > > > > called Skanda Hora (as I think you> >>>> wrote in one of your posts -"But> >>>> > > > > > oldest hora available is skanda hora> >>>> .") does not mean that it> >>>> > > is the> >>>> > > > > > original text from which all> >>>> Pravartakas drew their knowledge.> >>>> > > Actually> >>>> > > > > > all shastras originated from Lord Shiva.> >>>> > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > Chandrashekhar.> >>>> > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > sunil nair wrote:> >>>> > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > dear lalit ,> >>>> > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > Parasara is not founder of any> >>>> sistem ,he ammassed what ever> >>>> > > > > > > available in the name of indian> >>>> astrology and present it in> >>>> > > book form> >>>> > > > > > > .Even he also never said i am> >>>> starting any new system.> >>>> > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > there r so many rishis and> >>>> paramparas b4 parasara into astrology> >>>> > > > > > > .Every grp or geographical areas of> >>>> old bharath may be very bigger> >>>> > > > > > > than we can assume today may be> >>>> contributed for astrology .> >>>> > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > parasara was one of the 18> >>>> jyothisha pravarthakas in astrology> >>>> > > .The> >>>> > > > > > > contribution from all quarters of> >>>> society and total> >>>> > > conscieceness of> >>>> > > > > > > old indian or hindus is available> >>>> in BPHS which later may be> >>>> > > > > corrupted> >>>> > > > > > > also .> >>>> > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > Now i hav one question can any body> >>>> say by looking at the family> >>>> > > > > > > horoscope how they r related to> >>>> each other .> >>>> > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > Going by years its possible .> >>>> > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > i am saying i will giv one chart of> >>>> a father and 4 other> >>>> > > charts can> >>>> > > > > > > any body find who is son of this> >>>> father ?.> >>>> > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > This method was used pre DNA> >>>> testing period to find whether> >>>> > > this boy> >>>> > > > > > > is born to this father ,and mind it> >>>> his child giving dasas may> >>>> > > not be> >>>> > > > > > > indicating as those days may be a> >>>> king or rich persons has so many> >>>> > > > > > > wifes or even keeps which was> >>>> allowed by society .So his child may> >>>> > > > > > > born any where .Think mahabharath> >>>> and they hav childrens even> >>>> > > among> >>>> > > > > > > forest tribes and other> >>>> communitties but only prathama patnis> >>>> > > eldest> >>>> > > > > > > son is eligible for kingdom or> >>>> other titles.> >>>> > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > also pls quote relevent sloka from> >>>> parasari .> >>>> > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > Jyothish is not linited to major> >>>> corner stones applicable> >>>> > > these days> >>>> > > > > > > of material life ,NOw a days no> >>>> parents want to know whether> >>>> > > my kid> >>>> > > > > > > will become a budha or gandhi ,they> >>>> r eger to know whther he will> >>>> > > > > > > become doctor or some one who make> >>>> money ( and whatever method is> >>>> > > > > also> >>>> > > > > > > unimportant ) .> >>>> > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > More in next .> >>>> > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > regrds sunil nair .> >>>> > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> >>>> > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > --- In> >>>> Vedic Astrologyandhealing > >>>> <Vedic Astrologyandhealing ,> >>>> "litsol" litsol@> >>>> > > > > > > wrote:> >>>> > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > Sir,> >>>> > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > I m sorry for this mistake.> >>>> > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > regards,> >>>> > > > > > > > Lalit.> >>>> > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > --- In> >>>> Vedic Astrologyandhealing > >>>> <Vedic Astrologyandhealing ,> >>>> aavesh t> >>>> > > > > > > > aavesh_s@ wrote:> >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit,> >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > A small correction:The author> >>>> of BPHS was Maharishi> >>>> > > Parashar and> >>>> > > > > > > > > not Bhrigu.> >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > Maharishi Bhrigu wrote the> >>>> Brighu Samhita> >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > Regards,> >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > aavesh> >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > litsol litsol@ wrote:> >>>> > > > > > > > > Dear Anoop,> >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > No one in astrology is greater> >>>> than Bhrigu itself , when> >>>> > > Bhrigu> >>>> > > > > > > > > himself revealed his knowledge> >>>> in BPHS, what these> >>>> > > miniatures will> >>>> > > > > > > > > have with them in so called> >>>> parampara.> >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > See, it's ridiculous that in> >>>> one's life other than his> >>>> > > job, change> >>>> > > > > > > > in> >>>> > > > > > > > > job, ups and downs, travels,> >>>> love, marriage, failure of> >>>> > > love or> >>>> > > > > > > > > marriage, kids , kids life ,> >>>> diseases , property accumulation> >>>> > > > > etc..> >>>> > > > > > > > > nothing happens, Vedic> >>>> Astrology is capable of telling u> >>>> > > all the> >>>> > > > > > > > > details about this. what the> >>>> hell so called parampara or> >>>> > > so called> >>>> > > > > > > > > secret knowledge will more tell> >>>> u, because nothing more is> >>>> > > > > > > > happening> >>>> > > > > > > > > in ur life.> >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > Anoop, what more happens in> >>>> life which needs hidden knowedge> >>>> > > > > to get> >>>> > > > > > > > > revealed ? Dont get trapped in> >>>> such type of astrologers who> >>>> > > > > > > > advocates> >>>> > > > > > > > > secrets ... and secrets...> >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > if somebody knows something> >>>> exclusive, he should pay his> >>>> > > debt to> >>>> > > > > > > > > Bhrigu and other Sages by> >>>> advancing his knowledge to next> >>>> > > > > > > > generations.> >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > Do u think an ingrate person> >>>> can do good in astrology ?> >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > Sorry, Never !!> >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > Advocating parampara is nothing> >>>> but a tool to befool either> >>>> > > > > > > > > financially or emotionally, a> >>>> tool for self branding.> >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > regards,> >>>> > > > > > > > > Lalit.> >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > --- In> >>>> Vedic Astrologyandhealing > >>>> <Vedic Astrologyandhealing ,> >>>> anoop singh> >>>> > > > > > > > > wrote:> >>>> > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > > Hi Lalit Ji, Kiran Ji> >>>> > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > > Lalit Ji, i pray for the good> >>>> health of your father.> >>>> > > > > > > > > > Its great to know that Lalit> >>>> ji is remembering all the> >>>> > > things> >>>> > > > > > > > > which i told on telephonic> >>>> conversation. But Lalit Ji now> >>>> > > i don,t> >>>> > > > > > > > > have any affair and i hope that> >>>> my marriage will be> >>>> > > arranged one.> >>>> > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > > Kiran Ji,> >>>> > > > > > > > > > I read your analysis and want> >>>> to know you something.> >>>> > > Between> >>>> > > > > 2000-> >>>> > > > > > > > > 2003, i was going through Rahu> >>>> MD and Mercury AD, that> >>>> > > period was> >>>> > > > > > > > > very good to me and i was> >>>> getting distinction in my> >>>> > > education and> >>>> > > > > > > > > doing even better that what i> >>>> deserved. Mercury was giving> >>>> > > me very> >>>> > > > > > > > > good results. I don't know> >>>> whether it was due to its> >>>> > > placement in> >>>> > > > > > > > 8th> >>>> > > > > > > > > house(regarede as good> >>>> placement for mercury in all astrology> >>>> > > > > > > > books)> >>>> > > > > > > > > or its parivartana with moon> >>>> which gives unusual or unexpected> >>>> > > > > > > > > results.> >>>> > > > > > > > > > Even Rahu, Moon period is> >>>> giving me better results> >>>> > > > > professionally> >>>> > > > > > > > > till date besides some minor> >>>> problems.> >>>> > > > > > > > > > I think dasa dependency and> >>>> mere placement of planet doesn,t> >>>> > > > > > > > > reveal all. Something more is> >>>> to be find out through the> >>>> > > composite> >>>> > > > > > > > > study of chart with the hidden> >>>> knowledge of astrology that is> >>>> > > > > > > > > confined with some astrologers> >>>> coming from the parampara.> >>>> > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > > Thanks & regards,> >>>> > > > > > > > > > Anoop.> >>>> > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > > "kiran.rama" wrote:> >>>> > > > > > > > > > Dear Aveshji,> >>>> > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > > I checked the horoscope of anoop> >>>> > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > > He has dhanus ascendant> >>>> > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > > 10H Lord Mercury is in 8th> >>>> house is not good placement> >>>> > > > > > > > > > Mercury should give following> >>>> results in his period:> >>>> > > > > > > > > > * All efforts go waste> >>>> > > > > > > > > > * Loss of name and fame -> >>>> Disgrace> >>>> > > > > > > > > > * Bad Life abroad - meaning> >>>> staying in foreign land away> >>>> > > > > from home> >>>> > > > > > > > > > yearning to go home but job> >>>> keeping one in foreign land> >>>> > > > > > > > > > * Dangers etc> >>>> > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > > To make matters worse, Rahu> >>>> is in 10H and malefic Ketu is> >>>> > > > > > > > aspecting> >>>> > > > > > > > > > 10H by way of graha drishti> >>>> and these malefics toegether> >>>> > > > > will give> >>>> > > > > > > > > > following results in their> >>>> periods:> >>>> > > > > > > > > > * Obstruction to profession/job> >>>> > > > > > > > > > * Servants/Followers> >>>> forsaking native: Bad time in job> >>>> > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > > Using True Ayanamsa of> >>>> Chandrahari started from the> >>>> > > Moon, native> >>>> > > > > > > > has> >>>> > > > > > > > > > Rahu MD till 2010 July.> >>>> > > > > > > > > > Jupiter MD starting after> >>>> this will be good but Mercury AD> >>>> > > > > between> >>>> > > > > > > > > > 2015 Mar and 2017 Jun is> >>>> likely to bring bad results> >>>> > > > > signified by> >>>> > > > > > > > > > Mercury above. Ketu following> >>>> it is also not good> >>>> > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > > I am a learner in astrology> >>>> and so forgive any gaps in my> >>>> > > > > > > > > understanding> >>>> > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > > Regards> >>>> > > > > > > > > > Kiran> >>>> > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > > --- In> >>>> Vedic Astrologyandhealing > >>>> <Vedic Astrologyandhealing ,> >>>> aavesh t> >>>> > > > > > > > > > wrote:> >>>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit,> >>>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > > > I have recieved this> >>>> request for consultation.> >>>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > > > Do you know this person> >>>> ??.Could you give me a brief> >>>> > > of his> >>>> > > > > > > > > > background ??> >>>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > > > Based on your feedback I> >>>> shall proceed in the matter> >>>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> >>>> > > > > > > > > > > aavesh> >>>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > > > P.S:Pls give me your> >>>> private email id (so that I can> >>>> > > post such> >>>> > > > > > > > > > messages directly to you) and> >>>> not trouble the group members> >>>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > > > anoop singh wrote:> >>>> > > > > > > > > > > Respected Aavesh Ji> >>>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > > > I came to know you from> >>>> Lalit working in HCL.> >>>> > > > > > > > > > > As i am facing some problem> >>>> i am writing you personally.> >>>> > > > > > > > > > > I faced lot of problem in> >>>> my career. And After 3> >>>> > > changes in> >>>> > > > > > > > > > company i have recently> >>>> joined a company and hope for good> >>>> > > > > future> >>>> > > > > > > > > here.> >>>> > > > > > > > > > > I had to face a failed> >>>> affair though it was a long and> >>>> > > deep> >>>> > > > > > > > > > association.> >>>> > > > > > > > > > > Now I am concerned about my> >>>> marriage and marital life.> >>>> > > > > > > > > > > When will i get married and> >>>> how would be my wife and> >>>> > > marital> >>>> > > > > > > > life?> >>>> > > > > > > > > > Please guide me.> >>>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > > > DOB: 12- July - 1978.> >>>> > > > > > > > > > > TOB: 17:14> >>>> > > > > > > > > > > POB: Gorakhpur(UP)(83 E 22,> >>>> 26 N 45)> >>>> > > > > > > > > > > Ascendant:> >>>> Sagitarius(Dhanu)- Taurus Navamsa.> >>>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > > > Sir, Please consider my> >>>> situation and guide me.> >>>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & regards,> >>>> > > > > > > > > > > Anoop.> >>>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make> >>>> your homepage.> >>>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > > > With Best Wishes,> >>>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > > > aavesh> >>>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > Forgot the famous last> >>>> words? Access your message archive> >>>> > > > > > > > online.> >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make> >>>> your homepage.> >>>> > > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > >