Guest guest Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Dear Mr DhanbalanNo one has been able to explain how I got married in mer bhukti or its starday when it doesn'signify 2 7 11.My faith in astrology is declining.RegardsSujataDhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan Sent: Friday, 1 May, 2009 9:48:39 PMRe: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP Dear Members No one has clarified my doubt so far. How we are fixing DBA for marriage? As per KP, the DBA is selected from 2,7,11 house significators. I have proved that about 40% of the cases, marriage is celebrated in the DBA which is not the significators of 2,7,11 houses. In support of my statement, I have already posted 12 charts about two months back. There was no comment from seniors about those charts till now. Please confirm first whether the system we are following to arrive the DBA from primary significators is correct. Some may suggest to add 5th and 8th houses for marriage. Some may tell that 8th house is for divorce. In general, for any event, there must be one main house and two supporting houses. More than two supporting houses may lead to confusion. Dhanabalan.--- On Thu, 4/30/09, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in> wrote: Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in>Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP@gro ups.comThursday, April 30, 2009, 7:56 AM Dear all members, I am a new member of your group. I too feel that we must consider DBA to work out the date of the happening. Without DBA the system may work only half which is ultimately of no use. Regards Vishram Deshpande--- On Wed, 29/4/09, Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP@gro ups.comWednesday, 29 April, 2009, 10:39 AM Dear Sri Murthygaru, An excellent clarification. As you say it may work out correctly by using RPs for minor events. I don't know how far it will work out for major events without appling DBA. My warmth appreciation for your research mindedness. Regards, K.S.V.Ramani - OVN MURTHY @gro ups.com Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:25 PM Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP Dear Sri Konthala P Naidu/ Sri KSV Ramani ji,The following is the line given by Sri Dhanbalan ji,"Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA?"As said by Sri Ramani; Sri Dhanbalan was born in Rahu- lagna sublord in Sagi Asc. Rahu is in Venus star who is lord of 5n10 on 9th cusp orb and I hope that is why he puts very tough ideas where it requires analytical thinking and create no thoughts on this subject as said by Sri KSK ji to do research more on diferent concepts..It seems he might attended the astrology seminar conducted recently in Chennai.According to my mind in KP u will know the results of each birth chart by identifying the sublords and significators of various houses, then u will apply the same to the DBA to identify when it will take place ( in case more significtors then ur using the RPs to filter the significators) as said by Sri Naidu, Vizag. Now this new idea of Sri Dhanbalan is without going to DBA only by RPs who are the significators of the concerned Bhavas would give the result on the concerned bhava on the day Where the RPs are matching with bhava. This principle I am following since a long time. This is meant for small events but not for big events, which are very limited events in life time. such as marriage, birth of children, etc.e.g. I see the RPs of 1. DayLord 2. Moon sign lord 3. Moon Star Lordat this juncture I verify whether these 3 RPs are connected to my 2nd house, 6 or 11, then I will see the other 2 RPs Ascendant signlord and Asc.. starlord whether it is operating in the normal working hours (not being early morning or after 9pm of the day) during that time I used to get my client or somebody visits and gives some money to me. This is one way of testing RP with petty events but not for big things where I have to see the DBA also invariably. This wonder predictions can work successfully with the help of RPS as said by Guruji.Thanks and RegardsOVN MURTHY HYDERABAD 94417 78427/ 23232212@gro ups.com, "Ramani" <kadavasalramani@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sri Naidu,> > Pl. don't underestimate Sri R.Dhanabalan for his query on> DBA. He has raised this query with some specific purpose> and reason. It is because, one gentleman posing himsel as a revolutionist has delivered lecture with many shortcut ideas, in which he has asserted that the DBAs are of no use for deciding event; instead he insists for applying RPs.> On this, Sri Dhanabalan, it seems has initiated a debate> on this subject. Let us watch his further observations. .> > Regards,> > K.S.V.Ramani > ----- Original Message ----- > K. P. Naidu > @gro ups.com > Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:28 PM> Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > > > > Dear Mr.Dhanabalan<> > It is surprising to find such a question from you having good knowledge of the subject of KP.> DBAS method is for predicting the timing of event. whether the event is promised or not is not dependent on DBAS. All this you may be knowing. Then why you have put such a question ? what exactly you expect from the members ?> > Thanks & Regds.> > Naidu KP> > > > K. P.. Naidu,> Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> Nowroji Road,> Maharanipeta,> VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > --- On Mon, 20/4/09, ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...> wrote:> > > ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...>> Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> @gro ups.com> Monday, 20 April, 2009, 6:10 PM> > > Dear Dhanabalan> > Correct prediction in KP can be given without DBA but the timing of the event predicted will require DBA.> > regards,> Ajoy> - > Dhanabalan R > kpsystem groups > Monday, April 20, 2009 8:39 AM> Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > Dear Members> Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA?> Dhanabalan > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter now! Now surf faster and smarter ! Check out the new Firefox 3 - Edition * Click here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Dear Sujatha ji,Pls check the following details in your chart:Mercury is in the star of Sun and in the sub of Mercury itself.Mercury is in 6 . but there is a planet (Venus) in Mercury star. Mercury's star lord Sun is in 5 (lord of 9). Sun is in the star of Venus (lord of 6, 7 and 11 feebly) in 4. Also it is in the sub of Jupiter (lord of 2 ) in its own star. Further Venus is in the star of Mercury in 6.These 2, 5,7,11 is more than enough to lead a marriage! and the 4,6 would have lead to unhappy marital life later!RegardsAdith On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 2:58 PM, sujata das <sujatadash1 wrote: Dear Mr Dhanbalan No one has been able to explain how I got married in mer bhukti or its starday when it doesn'signify 2 7 11.My faith in astrology is declining.RegardsSujata Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan Sent: Friday, 1 May, 2009 9:48:39 PM Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP Dear Members No one has clarified my doubt so far. How we are fixing DBA for marriage? As per KP, the DBA is selected from 2,7,11 house significators. I have proved that about 40% of the cases, marriage is celebrated in the DBA which is not the significators of 2,7,11 houses. In support of my statement, I have already posted 12 charts about two months back. There was no comment from seniors about those charts till now. Please confirm first whether the system we are following to arrive the DBA from primary significators is correct. Some may suggest to add 5th and 8th houses for marriage. Some may tell that 8th house is for divorce. In general, for any event, there must be one main house and two supporting houses. More than two supporting houses may lead to confusion. Dhanabalan.--- On Thu, 4/30/09, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in> wrote: Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in>Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP @gro ups.comThursday, April 30, 2009, 7:56 AM Dear all members, I am a new member of your group. I too feel that we must consider DBA to work out the date of the happening. Without DBA the system may work only half which is ultimately of no use. Regards Vishram Deshpande--- On Wed, 29/4/09, Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP @gro ups.comWednesday, 29 April, 2009, 10:39 AM Dear Sri Murthygaru, An excellent clarification. As you say it may work out correctly by using RPs for minor events. I don't know how far it will work out for major events without appling DBA. My warmth appreciation for your research mindedness. Regards, K.S.V.Ramani - OVN MURTHY @gro ups.com Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:25 PM Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP Dear Sri Konthala P Naidu/ Sri KSV Ramani ji,The following is the line given by Sri Dhanbalan ji, " Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA? " As said by Sri Ramani; Sri Dhanbalan was born in Rahu- lagna sublord in Sagi Asc. Rahu is in Venus star who is lord of 5n10 on 9th cusp orb and I hope that is why he puts very tough ideas where it requires analytical thinking and create no thoughts on this subject as said by Sri KSK ji to do research more on diferent concepts.. It seems he might attended the astrology seminar conducted recently in Chennai.According to my mind in KP u will know the results of each birth chart by identifying the sublords and significators of various houses, then u will apply the same to the DBA to identify when it will take place ( in case more significtors then ur using the RPs to filter the significators) as said by Sri Naidu, Vizag. Now this new idea of Sri Dhanbalan is without going to DBA only by RPs who are the significators of the concerned Bhavas would give the result on the concerned bhava on the day Where the RPs are matching with bhava. This principle I am following since a long time. This is meant for small events but not for big events, which are very limited events in life time. such as marriage, birth of children, etc. e.g. I see the RPs of 1. DayLord 2. Moon sign lord 3. Moon Star Lordat this juncture I verify whether these 3 RPs are connected to my 2nd house, 6 or 11, then I will see the other 2 RPs Ascendant signlord and Asc.. starlord whether it is operating in the normal working hours (not being early morning or after 9pm of the day) during that time I used to get my client or somebody visits and gives some money to me. This is one way of testing RP with petty events but not for big things where I have to see the DBA also invariably. This wonder predictions can work successfully with the help of RPS as said by Guruji.Thanks and RegardsOVN MURTHY HYDERABAD 94417 78427/ 23232212@gro ups.com, " Ramani " <kadavasalramani@ ...> wrote: >> Dear Sri Naidu,> > Pl. don't underestimate Sri R.Dhanabalan for his query on> DBA. He has raised this query with some specific purpose> and reason. It is because, one gentleman posing himsel as a revolutionist has delivered lecture with many shortcut ideas, in which he has asserted that the DBAs are of no use for deciding event; instead he insists for applying RPs. > On this, Sri Dhanabalan, it seems has initiated a debate> on this subject. Let us watch his further observations. .> > Regards,> > K.S.V.Ramani > ----- Original Message ----- > K. P. Naidu > @gro ups.com > Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:28 PM > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > > > > Dear Mr.Dhanabalan<> > It is surprising to find such a question from you having good knowledge of the subject of KP. > DBAS method is for predicting the timing of event. whether the event is promised or not is not dependent on DBAS. All this you may be knowing. Then why you have put such a question ? what exactly you expect from the members ? > > Thanks & Regds.> > Naidu KP> > > > K. P.. Naidu,> Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> Nowroji Road,> Maharanipeta,> VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > --- On Mon, 20/4/09, ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...> wrote:> > > ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...>> Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > @gro ups.com> Monday, 20 April, 2009, 6:10 PM> > > Dear Dhanabalan> > Correct prediction in KP can be given without DBA but the timing of the event predicted will require DBA.> > regards,> Ajoy> - > Dhanabalan R > kpsystem groups > Monday, April 20, 2009 8:39 AM> Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > Dear Members> Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA? > Dhanabalan > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter now! Now surf faster and smarter ! Check out the new Firefox 3 - Edition * Click here! 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Guest guest Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 Dear Sujataji, There still remains a confusion in your birth time. Yourself is not sure about the time. So it is a diferent issue. Dr. Rath. sujata das <sujatadash1 Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2009 2:58:27 PMRe: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP Dear Mr Dhanbalan No one has been able to explain how I got married in mer bhukti or its starday when it doesn'signify 2 7 11.My faith in astrology is declining.RegardsSujata Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > Sent: Friday, 1 May, 2009 9:48:39 PMRe: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP Dear Members No one has clarified my doubt so far. How we are fixing DBA for marriage? As per KP, the DBA is selected from 2,7,11 house significators. I have proved that about 40% of the cases, marriage is celebrated in the DBA which is not the significators of 2,7,11 houses. In support of my statement, I have already posted 12 charts about two months back. There was no comment from seniors about those charts till now. Please confirm first whether the system we are following to arrive the DBA from primary significators is correct. Some may suggest to add 5th and 8th houses for marriage. Some may tell that 8th house is for divorce. In general, for any event, there must be one main house and two supporting houses. More than two supporting houses may lead to confusion. Dhanabalan.--- On Thu, 4/30/09, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in> wrote: Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in>Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP@gro ups.comThursday, April 30, 2009, 7:56 AM Dear all members, I am a new member of your group. I too feel that we must consider DBA to work out the date of the happening. Without DBA the system may work only half which is ultimately of no use. Regards Vishram Deshpande--- On Wed, 29/4/09, Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP@gro ups.comWednesday, 29 April, 2009, 10:39 AM Dear Sri Murthygaru, An excellent clarification. As you say it may work out correctly by using RPs for minor events. I don't know how far it will work out for major events without appling DBA. My warmth appreciation for your research mindedness. Regards, K.S.V.Ramani - OVN MURTHY @gro ups.com Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:25 PM Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP Dear Sri Konthala P Naidu/ Sri KSV Ramani ji,The following is the line given by Sri Dhanbalan ji,"Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA?"As said by Sri Ramani; Sri Dhanbalan was born in Rahu- lagna sublord in Sagi Asc. Rahu is in Venus star who is lord of 5n10 on 9th cusp orb and I hope that is why he puts very tough ideas where it requires analytical thinking and create no thoughts on this subject as said by Sri KSK ji to do research more on diferent concepts..It seems he might attended the astrology seminar conducted recently in Chennai.According to my mind in KP u will know the results of each birth chart by identifying the sublords and significators of various houses, then u will apply the same to the DBA to identify when it will take place ( in case more significtors then ur using the RPs to filter the significators) as said by Sri Naidu, Vizag. Now this new idea of Sri Dhanbalan is without going to DBA only by RPs who are the significators of the concerned Bhavas would give the result on the concerned bhava on the day Where the RPs are matching with bhava. This principle I am following since a long time. This is meant for small events but not for big events, which are very limited events in life time. such as marriage, birth of children, etc.e.g. I see the RPs of 1. DayLord 2. Moon sign lord 3. Moon Star Lordat this juncture I verify whether these 3 RPs are connected to my 2nd house, 6 or 11, then I will see the other 2 RPs Ascendant signlord and Asc.. starlord whether it is operating in the normal working hours (not being early morning or after 9pm of the day) during that time I used to get my client or somebody visits and gives some money to me. This is one way of testing RP with petty events but not for big things where I have to see the DBA also invariably. This wonder predictions can work successfully with the help of RPS as said by Guruji.Thanks and RegardsOVN MURTHY HYDERABAD 94417 78427/ 23232212@gro ups.com, "Ramani" <kadavasalramani@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sri Naidu,> > Pl. don't underestimate Sri R.Dhanabalan for his query on> DBA. He has raised this query with some specific purpose> and reason. It is because, one gentleman posing himsel as a revolutionist has delivered lecture with many shortcut ideas, in which he has asserted that the DBAs are of no use for deciding event; instead he insists for applying RPs.> On this, Sri Dhanabalan, it seems has initiated a debate> on this subject. Let us watch his further observations. .> > Regards,> > K.S.V.Ramani > ----- Original Message ----- > K. P. Naidu > @gro ups.com > Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:28 PM> Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > > > > Dear Mr.Dhanabalan<> > It is surprising to find such a question from you having good knowledge of the subject of KP.> DBAS method is for predicting the timing of event. whether the event is promised or not is not dependent on DBAS. All this you may be knowing. Then why you have put such a question ? what exactly you expect from the members ?> > Thanks & Regds.> > Naidu KP> > > > K. P.. Naidu,> Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> Nowroji Road,> Maharanipeta,> VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > --- On Mon, 20/4/09, ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...> wrote:> > > ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...>> Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> @gro ups.com> Monday, 20 April, 2009, 6:10 PM> > > Dear Dhanabalan> > Correct prediction in KP can be given without DBA but the timing of the event predicted will require DBA.> > regards,> Ajoy> - > Dhanabalan R > kpsystem groups > Monday, April 20, 2009 8:39 AM> Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > Dear Members> Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA?> Dhanabalan > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter now! Now surf faster and smarter ! Check out the new Firefox 3 - Edition * Click here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 Dear Group Members, As the members are aware that Sri Dhanabalan ji has given 10 charts with birth details and marriage details wherein he claimed that the 4 fold DBAS have not connected to 2,7,11 as per the KP Rules, however marriages have taken place. In this connection he requested the members to offer their comments on this issue where KP rules have failed. Due to my occupation I could not reply at that time, now my year ending is over and I am having little spare time and I want to see the charts in details and whether the marriage period does support the DBA are not. The first chart was 1.Dhanabalan.pdf was loaded in the files section in separate folder viz. 10 Marriage DBA 4 Fold. In this file the second page indicates my findings how the marriage has taken place in the DBA Ju-Me-Mo, who are significators of 2,7,11 as given in the 1st page with bold and underlined. The s/w used is Future Point. leogold of sri Arun Bansal of NewDelhi. Reg. the 4 fold of kp for giving marriage in Jupiter dasa and Mercury bhukthi verify the corulers at 7th cusp it is Ju-Me-Su, Sun in Mercury star 7th lord in 7th. DB is Ju-Me has given marriage to him. Jupiter sublord Saturn is lord of 2nd. Mercury is lord of 7th is occupant of 7th. 11th significators are Moon n Mars. I expect if we calculate the Antara in Mercury which started on 30.12.1977 marriage on 4.9.78 would be either Mo/Mars who signifies 11th. Further charts will be analyzed one after another and will be sent to the group. Plz go thru the files section whenin I have kept this pdf file viz.1Dhanabalan.pdf in Directory 10 Marriage DBAS 4 Fold Regards OVN Murthy, M.Com.FCS, ICWAI, PGDPA. Company Secretary Nizam Sugards Limited, Bashirbagh, Hyderabad 13. Ph. 040-23232212, res. 27405975 Mob. 94417 78427 www.saibhavishyavani.com ovnmurthy , Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote: > > Dear Members > No one has clarified my doubt so far. > How we are fixing DBA for marriage? > As per KP, the DBA is selected from 2,7,11 house significators. I have proved that about 40% of the cases, marriage is celebrated in the DBA which is not the significators of 2,7,11 houses. In support of my statement, I have already posted 12 charts about two months back. There was no comment from seniors about those charts till now. Please confirm first whether the system we are following to arrive the DBA from primary significators is correct. > Some may suggest to add 5th and 8th houses for marriage. > Some may tell that 8th house is for divorce. > In general, for any event, there must be one main house and two supporting houses. More than two supporting houses may lead to confusion. > Dhanabalan. > > --- On Thu, 4/30/09, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande wrote: > > Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande > Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > Thursday, April 30, 2009, 7:56 AM > > > > > > > Dear all members, > > I am a new member of your group. I too feel that we must consider DBA to work out the date of the happening. Without DBA the system may work only half which is ultimately of no use. > > Regards > > Vishram Deshpande > > --- On Wed, 29/4/09, Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> > Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > @gro ups.com > Wednesday, 29 April, 2009, 10:39 AM > > > > > > Dear Sri Murthygaru, > > An excellent clarification. As you say it may work out correctly by using RPs for minor events. I don't know how far it will work out for major events without appling DBA. > My warmth appreciation for your research mindedness. > > Regards, > > K.S.V.Ramani > > > > - > OVN MURTHY > @gro ups.com > Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:25 PM > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > > > Dear Sri Konthala P Naidu/ Sri KSV Ramani ji, > > The following is the line given by Sri Dhanbalan ji, > > " Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA? " > > As said by Sri Ramani; Sri Dhanbalan was born in Rahu- lagna sublord in Sagi Asc. Rahu is in Venus star who is lord of 5n10 on 9th cusp orb and I hope that is why he puts very tough ideas where it requires analytical thinking and create no thoughts on this subject as said by Sri KSK ji to do research more on diferent concepts. > > It seems he might attended the astrology seminar conducted recently in Chennai. > > According to my mind in KP u will know the results of each birth chart by identifying the sublords and significators of various houses, then u will apply the same to the DBA to identify when it will take place ( in case more significtors then ur using the RPs to filter the significators) as said by Sri Naidu, Vizag. > > Now this new idea of Sri Dhanbalan is without going to DBA only by RPs who are the significators of the concerned Bhavas would give the result on the concerned bhava on the day Where the RPs are matching with bhava. This principle I am following since a long time. This is meant for small events but not for big events, which are very limited events in life time. such as marriage, birth of children, etc. > > e.g. I see the RPs of 1. DayLord 2. Moon sign lord 3. Moon Star Lord > at this juncture I verify whether these 3 RPs are connected to my 2nd house, 6 or 11, then I will see the other 2 RPs Ascendant signlord and Asc.. starlord whether it is operating in the normal working hours (not being early morning or after 9pm of the day) during that time I used to get my client or somebody visits and gives some money to me. This is one way of testing RP with petty events but not for big things where I have to see the DBA also invariably. This wonder predictions can work successfully with the help of RPS as said by Guruji. > > Thanks and Regards > > OVN MURTHY HYDERABAD 94417 78427/ 23232212 > > @gro ups.com, " Ramani " <kadavasalramani@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Sri Naidu, > > > > Pl. don't underestimate Sri R.Dhanabalan for his query on > > DBA. He has raised this query with some specific purpose > > and reason. It is because, one gentleman posing himsel as a revolutionist has delivered lecture with many shortcut ideas, in which he has asserted that the DBAs are of no use for deciding event; instead he insists for applying RPs. > > On this, Sri Dhanabalan, it seems has initiated a debate > > on this subject. Let us watch his further observations. . > > > > Regards, > > > > K.S.V.Ramani > > - > > K. P. Naidu > > @gro ups.com > > Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:28 PM > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr.Dhanabalan< > > > > It is surprising to find such a question from you having good knowledge of the subject of KP. > > DBAS method is for predicting the timing of event. whether the event is promised or not is not dependent on DBAS. All this you may be knowing. Then why you have put such a question ? what exactly you expect from the members ? > > > > Thanks & Regds. > > > > Naidu KP > > > > > > > > K. P. Naidu, > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., > > Nowroji Road, > > Maharanipeta, > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > > > > --- On Mon, 20/4/09, ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...> > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > @gro ups.com > > Monday, 20 April, 2009, 6:10 PM > > > > > > Dear Dhanabalan > > > > Correct prediction in KP can be given without DBA but the timing of the event predicted will require DBA. > > > > regards, > > Ajoy > > - > > Dhanabalan R > > kpsystem groups > > Monday, April 20, 2009 8:39 AM > > Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > > > > Dear Members > > Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA? > > Dhanabalan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! > > > > > > > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. 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Guest guest Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 Dear Group Members, 2nd chart Dhanabalan's daughter now discussed as 2nd email. As the members are aware that Sri Dhanabalan ji has given 10 charts with birth details and marriage details wherein he claimed that the 4 fold DBAS have not connected to 2,7,11 as per the KP Rules, however marriages have taken place. In this connection he requested the members to offer their comments on this issue where KP rules have failed. NOW I AM ATTEMPTING THE SECOND CHART OF HIS DAUGHTER. The SECOND chart was 1.Dhanabalan Daughter.pdf was loaded in the files section in separate folder viz. 10 Marriage DBA 4 Fold. In this file the second page indicates my findings how the marriage has taken place in the DBA Ju-Me-Sa, who are significators of 2,7,11 as given in the 1st page with bold and underlined. The s/w used is Future Point. leogold of sri Arun Bansal of NewDelhi. 2nd chart 3Dhanabalan Daughter.pdf 7th corulers Ju-Ve-Ra; Ju 7th on the orb 2 in Sat who is n 2nd. Ve in Mo 8n2 as lord of 2nd unoccupied. Lost is Node Rahu in Ven l/o 5n12 in 11 fav. with Sat in 2nd ok. Here Mercury is not figured in 2,7,11 as per Sri Dhanabalanji. But as per KSK's article in A & A 1967 reg. Winning of Lottery, where he said emphatically when he visited north india gaya, who ever in Nodes Stars they are agents of Nodes. Mercury in Rahu star who is 7th CSL. Mer in sun's sub whose star lord is Mars in 11th as lord of 11th. Then where is the doubt about the DBAs. Further charts will be analyzed one after another and will be sent to the group. Plz go thru the files section whenin I have kept this pdf file viz.1Dhanabalan Daughter.pdf in Directory 10 Marriage DBAS 4 Fold Regards OVN Murthy, M.Com.FCS, ICWAI, PGDPA. Company Secretary Nizam Sugards Limited, Bashirbagh, Hyderabad 13. Ph. 040-23232212, res. 27405975 Mob. 94417 78427 www.saibhavishyavani.com ovnmurthy , Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote: > > Dear Members > No one has clarified my doubt so far. > How we are fixing DBA for marriage? > As per KP, the DBA is selected from 2,7,11 house significators. I have proved that about 40% of the cases, marriage is celebrated in the DBA which is not the significators of 2,7,11 houses. In support of my statement, I have already posted 12 charts about two months back. There was no comment from seniors about those charts till now. Please confirm first whether the system we are following to arrive the DBA from primary significators is correct. > Some may suggest to add 5th and 8th houses for marriage. > Some may tell that 8th house is for divorce. > In general, for any event, there must be one main house and two supporting houses. More than two supporting houses may lead to confusion. > Dhanabalan. > > --- On Thu, 4/30/09, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande wrote: > > Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande > Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > Thursday, April 30, 2009, 7:56 AM > > > > > > > Dear all members, > > I am a new member of your group. I too feel that we must consider DBA to work out the date of the happening. Without DBA the system may work only half which is ultimately of no use. > > Regards > > Vishram Deshpande > > --- On Wed, 29/4/09, Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> > Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > @gro ups.com > Wednesday, 29 April, 2009, 10:39 AM > > > > > > Dear Sri Murthygaru, > > An excellent clarification. As you say it may work out correctly by using RPs for minor events. I don't know how far it will work out for major events without appling DBA. > My warmth appreciation for your research mindedness. > > Regards, > > K.S.V.Ramani > > > > - > OVN MURTHY > @gro ups.com > Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:25 PM > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > > > Dear Sri Konthala P Naidu/ Sri KSV Ramani ji, > > The following is the line given by Sri Dhanbalan ji, > > " Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA? " > > As said by Sri Ramani; Sri Dhanbalan was born in Rahu- lagna sublord in Sagi Asc. Rahu is in Venus star who is lord of 5n10 on 9th cusp orb and I hope that is why he puts very tough ideas where it requires analytical thinking and create no thoughts on this subject as said by Sri KSK ji to do research more on diferent concepts. > > It seems he might attended the astrology seminar conducted recently in Chennai. > > According to my mind in KP u will know the results of each birth chart by identifying the sublords and significators of various houses, then u will apply the same to the DBA to identify when it will take place ( in case more significtors then ur using the RPs to filter the significators) as said by Sri Naidu, Vizag. > > Now this new idea of Sri Dhanbalan is without going to DBA only by RPs who are the significators of the concerned Bhavas would give the result on the concerned bhava on the day Where the RPs are matching with bhava. This principle I am following since a long time. This is meant for small events but not for big events, which are very limited events in life time. such as marriage, birth of children, etc. > > e.g. I see the RPs of 1. DayLord 2. Moon sign lord 3. Moon Star Lord > at this juncture I verify whether these 3 RPs are connected to my 2nd house, 6 or 11, then I will see the other 2 RPs Ascendant signlord and Asc.. starlord whether it is operating in the normal working hours (not being early morning or after 9pm of the day) during that time I used to get my client or somebody visits and gives some money to me. This is one way of testing RP with petty events but not for big things where I have to see the DBA also invariably. This wonder predictions can work successfully with the help of RPS as said by Guruji. > > Thanks and Regards > > OVN MURTHY HYDERABAD 94417 78427/ 23232212 > > @gro ups.com, " Ramani " <kadavasalramani@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Sri Naidu, > > > > Pl. don't underestimate Sri R.Dhanabalan for his query on > > DBA. He has raised this query with some specific purpose > > and reason. It is because, one gentleman posing himsel as a revolutionist has delivered lecture with many shortcut ideas, in which he has asserted that the DBAs are of no use for deciding event; instead he insists for applying RPs. > > On this, Sri Dhanabalan, it seems has initiated a debate > > on this subject. Let us watch his further observations. . > > > > Regards, > > > > K.S.V.Ramani > > - > > K. P. Naidu > > @gro ups.com > > Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:28 PM > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr.Dhanabalan< > > > > It is surprising to find such a question from you having good knowledge of the subject of KP. > > DBAS method is for predicting the timing of event. whether the event is promised or not is not dependent on DBAS. All this you may be knowing. Then why you have put such a question ? what exactly you expect from the members ? > > > > Thanks & Regds. > > > > Naidu KP > > > > > > > > K. P. Naidu, > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., > > Nowroji Road, > > Maharanipeta, > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > > > > --- On Mon, 20/4/09, ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...> > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > @gro ups.com > > Monday, 20 April, 2009, 6:10 PM > > > > > > Dear Dhanabalan > > > > Correct prediction in KP can be given without DBA but the timing of the event predicted will require DBA. > > > > regards, > > Ajoy > > - > > Dhanabalan R > > kpsystem groups > > Monday, April 20, 2009 8:39 AM > > Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > > > > Dear Members > > Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA? > > Dhanabalan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! > > > > > > > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. 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Guest guest Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 Dear Group Members, 3rd chart Dhanabalan's Friend now discussed as 3rd email. As the members are aware that Sri Dhanabalan ji has given 10 charts with birth details and marriage details wherein he claimed that the 4 fold DBAS have not connected to 2,7,11 as per the KP Rules, however marriages have taken place. In this connection he requested the members to offer their comments on this issue where KP rules have failed. NOW I AM ATTEMPTING THE THIRD CHART OF HIS FRIEND. The THIRD chart was 4.Dhanabalan Friend.pdf was loaded in the files section in separate folder viz. 10 Marriage DBA 4 Fold. In this file the second page indicates my findings how the marriage has taken place in the DBA Su-Me-Me, who are significators of 2,7,11 as given in the 1st page with bold and underlined. The s/w used is Future Point. leogold of sri Arun Bansal of NewDelhi. 3rd chart 4Dhanabalan Friend.pdf 7th corulers Mo-Sa-Ra: Moon /Sat 7th significators. Rahu node in Sat sign who is lord 2 in Moon star 7th lord; Present DBA, Sun-Mer-Me-Mar; Sun in Rahu, Mer in Rahu whose 7th sublord. Nodes r always strong. Mars sookshma who is in Venus star karaka in 8th, Mars is lord of 11th . Hence there is no negative connection to 7th csl and DBAS. Further charts will be analyzed one after another and will be sent to the group. Plz go thru the files section whenin I have kept this pdf file viz.1Dhanabalan Daughter.pdf in Directory 10 Marriage DBAS 4 Fold Regards OVN Murthy, M.Com.FCS, ICWAI, PGDPA. Company Secretary Nizam Sugards Limited, Bashirbagh, Hyderabad 13. Ph. 040-23232212, res. 27405975 Mob. 94417 78427 www.saibhavishyavani.com ovnmurthy , Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote: > > Dear Members > No one has clarified my doubt so far. > How we are fixing DBA for marriage? > As per KP, the DBA is selected from 2,7,11 house significators. I have proved that about 40% of the cases, marriage is celebrated in the DBA which is not the significators of 2,7,11 houses. In support of my statement, I have already posted 12 charts about two months back. There was no comment from seniors about those charts till now. Please confirm first whether the system we are following to arrive the DBA from primary significators is correct. > Some may suggest to add 5th and 8th houses for marriage. > Some may tell that 8th house is for divorce. > In general, for any event, there must be one main house and two supporting houses. More than two supporting houses may lead to confusion. > Dhanabalan. > > --- On Thu, 4/30/09, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande wrote: > > Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande > Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > Thursday, April 30, 2009, 7:56 AM > > > > > > > Dear all members, > > I am a new member of your group. I too feel that we must consider DBA to work out the date of the happening. Without DBA the system may work only half which is ultimately of no use. > > Regards > > Vishram Deshpande > > --- On Wed, 29/4/09, Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> > Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > @gro ups.com > Wednesday, 29 April, 2009, 10:39 AM > > > > > > Dear Sri Murthygaru, > > An excellent clarification. As you say it may work out correctly by using RPs for minor events. I don't know how far it will work out for major events without appling DBA. > My warmth appreciation for your research mindedness. > > Regards, > > K.S.V.Ramani > > > > - > OVN MURTHY > @gro ups.com > Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:25 PM > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > > > Dear Sri Konthala P Naidu/ Sri KSV Ramani ji, > > The following is the line given by Sri Dhanbalan ji, > > " Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA? " > > As said by Sri Ramani; Sri Dhanbalan was born in Rahu- lagna sublord in Sagi Asc. Rahu is in Venus star who is lord of 5n10 on 9th cusp orb and I hope that is why he puts very tough ideas where it requires analytical thinking and create no thoughts on this subject as said by Sri KSK ji to do research more on diferent concepts. > > It seems he might attended the astrology seminar conducted recently in Chennai. > > According to my mind in KP u will know the results of each birth chart by identifying the sublords and significators of various houses, then u will apply the same to the DBA to identify when it will take place ( in case more significtors then ur using the RPs to filter the significators) as said by Sri Naidu, Vizag. > > Now this new idea of Sri Dhanbalan is without going to DBA only by RPs who are the significators of the concerned Bhavas would give the result on the concerned bhava on the day Where the RPs are matching with bhava. This principle I am following since a long time. This is meant for small events but not for big events, which are very limited events in life time. such as marriage, birth of children, etc. > > e.g. I see the RPs of 1. DayLord 2. Moon sign lord 3. Moon Star Lord > at this juncture I verify whether these 3 RPs are connected to my 2nd house, 6 or 11, then I will see the other 2 RPs Ascendant signlord and Asc.. starlord whether it is operating in the normal working hours (not being early morning or after 9pm of the day) during that time I used to get my client or somebody visits and gives some money to me. This is one way of testing RP with petty events but not for big things where I have to see the DBA also invariably. This wonder predictions can work successfully with the help of RPS as said by Guruji. > > Thanks and Regards > > OVN MURTHY HYDERABAD 94417 78427/ 23232212 > > @gro ups.com, " Ramani " <kadavasalramani@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Sri Naidu, > > > > Pl. don't underestimate Sri R.Dhanabalan for his query on > > DBA. He has raised this query with some specific purpose > > and reason. It is because, one gentleman posing himsel as a revolutionist has delivered lecture with many shortcut ideas, in which he has asserted that the DBAs are of no use for deciding event; instead he insists for applying RPs. > > On this, Sri Dhanabalan, it seems has initiated a debate > > on this subject. Let us watch his further observations. . > > > > Regards, > > > > K.S.V.Ramani > > - > > K. P. Naidu > > @gro ups.com > > Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:28 PM > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr.Dhanabalan< > > > > It is surprising to find such a question from you having good knowledge of the subject of KP. > > DBAS method is for predicting the timing of event. whether the event is promised or not is not dependent on DBAS. All this you may be knowing. Then why you have put such a question ? what exactly you expect from the members ? > > > > Thanks & Regds. > > > > Naidu KP > > > > > > > > K. P. Naidu, > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., > > Nowroji Road, > > Maharanipeta, > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > > > > --- On Mon, 20/4/09, ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...> > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > @gro ups.com > > Monday, 20 April, 2009, 6:10 PM > > > > > > Dear Dhanabalan > > > > Correct prediction in KP can be given without DBA but the timing of the event predicted will require DBA. > > > > regards, > > Ajoy > > - > > Dhanabalan R > > kpsystem groups > > Monday, April 20, 2009 8:39 AM > > Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > > > > Dear Members > > Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA? > > Dhanabalan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! > > > > > > > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. 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Guest guest Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 Dear AdithWhat u r saying is that mer will activate 2 7 through sun, the star depositor of mer. Had sun been the sublord of mer,this reasoning would be acceptable.What u r saying is akin to Dr Kar's MST F3Ven in star of mer in 6, l/o 8 10 , had given the 2nd marriage.If we go Mr kundaninathan's article,' CSL diverts dasa results', then, mer can give marriageRegardsSujataadith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath Sent: Saturday, 2 May, 2009 10:46:18 PMRe: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP Dear Sujatha ji,Pls check the following details in your chart:Mercury is in the star of Sun and in the sub of Mercury itself.Mercury is in 6 . but there is a planet (Venus) in Mercury star. Mercury's star lord Sun is in 5 (lord of 9). Sun is in the star of Venus (lord of 6, 7 and 11 feebly) in 4. Also it is in the sub of Jupiter (lord of 2 ) in its own star. Further Venus is in the star of Mercury in 6.These 2, 5,7,11 is more than enough to lead a marriage! and the 4,6 would have lead to unhappy marital life later!RegardsAdith On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 2:58 PM, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> wrote: Dear Mr Dhanbalan No one has been able to explain how I got married in mer bhukti or its starday when it doesn'signify 2 7 11.My faith in astrology is declining.RegardsSujata Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > Sent: Friday, 1 May, 2009 9:48:39 PM Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP Dear Members No one has clarified my doubt so far. How we are fixing DBA for marriage? As per KP, the DBA is selected from 2,7,11 house significators. I have proved that about 40% of the cases, marriage is celebrated in the DBA which is not the significators of 2,7,11 houses. In support of my statement, I have already posted 12 charts about two months back. There was no comment from seniors about those charts till now. Please confirm first whether the system we are following to arrive the DBA from primary significators is correct. Some may suggest to add 5th and 8th houses for marriage. Some may tell that 8th house is for divorce. In general, for any event, there must be one main house and two supporting houses. More than two supporting houses may lead to confusion. Dhanabalan.--- On Thu, 4/30/09, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in> wrote: Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in>Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP @gro ups.comThursday, April 30, 2009, 7:56 AM Dear all members, I am a new member of your group. I too feel that we must consider DBA to work out the date of the happening. Without DBA the system may work only half which is ultimately of no use. Regards Vishram Deshpande--- On Wed, 29/4/09, Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP @gro ups.comWednesday, 29 April, 2009, 10:39 AM Dear Sri Murthygaru, An excellent clarification. As you say it may work out correctly by using RPs for minor events. I don't know how far it will work out for major events without appling DBA. My warmth appreciation for your research mindedness. Regards, K.S.V.Ramani - OVN MURTHY @gro ups.com Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:25 PM Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP Dear Sri Konthala P Naidu/ Sri KSV Ramani ji,The following is the line given by Sri Dhanbalan ji,"Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA?"As said by Sri Ramani; Sri Dhanbalan was born in Rahu- lagna sublord in Sagi Asc. Rahu is in Venus star who is lord of 5n10 on 9th cusp orb and I hope that is why he puts very tough ideas where it requires analytical thinking and create no thoughts on this subject as said by Sri KSK ji to do research more on diferent concepts... It seems he might attended the astrology seminar conducted recently in Chennai.According to my mind in KP u will know the results of each birth chart by identifying the sublords and significators of various houses, then u will apply the same to the DBA to identify when it will take place ( in case more significtors then ur using the RPs to filter the significators) as said by Sri Naidu, Vizag. Now this new idea of Sri Dhanbalan is without going to DBA only by RPs who are the significators of the concerned Bhavas would give the result on the concerned bhava on the day Where the RPs are matching with bhava. This principle I am following since a long time. This is meant for small events but not for big events, which are very limited events in life time. such as marriage, birth of children, etc. e.g. I see the RPs of 1. DayLord 2. Moon sign lord 3. Moon Star Lordat this juncture I verify whether these 3 RPs are connected to my 2nd house, 6 or 11, then I will see the other 2 RPs Ascendant signlord and Asc.. starlord whether it is operating in the normal working hours (not being early morning or after 9pm of the day) during that time I used to get my client or somebody visits and gives some money to me. This is one way of testing RP with petty events but not for big things where I have to see the DBA also invariably. This wonder predictions can work successfully with the help of RPS as said by Guruji.Thanks and RegardsOVN MURTHY HYDERABAD 94417 78427/ 23232212@gro ups.com, "Ramani" <kadavasalramani@ ...> wrote: >> Dear Sri Naidu,> > Pl. don't underestimate Sri R.Dhanabalan for his query on> DBA. He has raised this query with some specific purpose> and reason. It is because, one gentleman posing himsel as a revolutionist has delivered lecture with many shortcut ideas, in which he has asserted that the DBAs are of no use for deciding event; instead he insists for applying RPs. > On this, Sri Dhanabalan, it seems has initiated a debate> on this subject. Let us watch his further observations. .> > Regards,> > K.S.V.Ramani > ----- Original Message ----- > K. P. Naidu > @gro ups.com > Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:28 PM > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > > > > Dear Mr.Dhanabalan<> > It is surprising to find such a question from you having good knowledge of the subject of KP. > DBAS method is for predicting the timing of event. whether the event is promised or not is not dependent on DBAS. All this you may be knowing. Then why you have put such a question ? what exactly you expect from the members ? > > Thanks & Regds.> > Naidu KP> > > > K. P.. Naidu,> Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> Nowroji Road,> Maharanipeta,> VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > --- On Mon, 20/4/09, ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...> wrote:> > > ajoy s.. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...>> Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > @gro ups.com> Monday, 20 April, 2009, 6:10 PM> > > Dear Dhanabalan> > Correct prediction in KP can be given without DBA but the timing of the event predicted will require DBA.> > regards,> Ajoy> - > Dhanabalan R > kpsystem groups > Monday, April 20, 2009 8:39 AM> Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > Dear Members> Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA? > Dhanabalan > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter now! Now surf faster and smarter ! Check out the new Firefox 3 - Edition * Click here! 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Guest guest Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 Dear Sujatha ji,Mercury is in the star of Sun and Sub of Mercury itself. This subLord Mercury signfies 2,7 through its star lord Sun. Is it ok now?Pls note when a planet is in its own sub, its star lord signfications are very strong! Since the star lord is also the star lord of the sub lord.and the significations are double time emphasized. I have seen it! RegardsAdithOn Sun, May 3, 2009 at 11:24 PM, sujata das <sujatadash1 wrote: Dear AdithWhat u r saying is that mer will activate 2 7 through sun, the star depositor of mer. Had sun been the sublord of mer,this reasoning would be acceptable. What u r saying is akin to Dr Kar's MST F3Ven in star of mer in 6, l/o 8 10 , had given the 2nd marriage.If we go Mr kundaninathan's article,' CSL diverts dasa results', then, mer can give marriage RegardsSujata adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath Saturday, 2 May, 2009 10:46:18 PMRe: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP Dear Sujatha ji,Pls check the following details in your chart:Mercury is in the star of Sun and in the sub of Mercury itself.Mercury is in 6 . but there is a planet (Venus) in Mercury star. Mercury's star lord Sun is in 5 (lord of 9). Sun is in the star of Venus (lord of 6, 7 and 11 feebly) in 4. Also it is in the sub of Jupiter (lord of 2 ) in its own star. Further Venus is in the star of Mercury in 6.These 2, 5,7,11 is more than enough to lead a marriage! and the 4,6 would have lead to unhappy marital life later!RegardsAdith On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 2:58 PM, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> wrote: Dear Mr Dhanbalan No one has been able to explain how I got married in mer bhukti or its starday when it doesn'signify 2 7 11.My faith in astrology is declining.RegardsSujata Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > Sent: Friday, 1 May, 2009 9:48:39 PM Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP Dear Members No one has clarified my doubt so far. How we are fixing DBA for marriage? As per KP, the DBA is selected from 2,7,11 house significators. I have proved that about 40% of the cases, marriage is celebrated in the DBA which is not the significators of 2,7,11 houses. In support of my statement, I have already posted 12 charts about two months back. There was no comment from seniors about those charts till now. Please confirm first whether the system we are following to arrive the DBA from primary significators is correct. Some may suggest to add 5th and 8th houses for marriage. Some may tell that 8th house is for divorce. In general, for any event, there must be one main house and two supporting houses. More than two supporting houses may lead to confusion. Dhanabalan.--- On Thu, 4/30/09, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in> wrote: Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in>Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP @gro ups.comThursday, April 30, 2009, 7:56 AM Dear all members, I am a new member of your group. I too feel that we must consider DBA to work out the date of the happening. Without DBA the system may work only half which is ultimately of no use. Regards Vishram Deshpande--- On Wed, 29/4/09, Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP @gro ups.comWednesday, 29 April, 2009, 10:39 AM Dear Sri Murthygaru, An excellent clarification. As you say it may work out correctly by using RPs for minor events. I don't know how far it will work out for major events without appling DBA. My warmth appreciation for your research mindedness. Regards, K.S.V.Ramani - OVN MURTHY @gro ups.com Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:25 PM Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP Dear Sri Konthala P Naidu/ Sri KSV Ramani ji,The following is the line given by Sri Dhanbalan ji, " Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA? " As said by Sri Ramani; Sri Dhanbalan was born in Rahu- lagna sublord in Sagi Asc. Rahu is in Venus star who is lord of 5n10 on 9th cusp orb and I hope that is why he puts very tough ideas where it requires analytical thinking and create no thoughts on this subject as said by Sri KSK ji to do research more on diferent concepts... It seems he might attended the astrology seminar conducted recently in Chennai.According to my mind in KP u will know the results of each birth chart by identifying the sublords and significators of various houses, then u will apply the same to the DBA to identify when it will take place ( in case more significtors then ur using the RPs to filter the significators) as said by Sri Naidu, Vizag. Now this new idea of Sri Dhanbalan is without going to DBA only by RPs who are the significators of the concerned Bhavas would give the result on the concerned bhava on the day Where the RPs are matching with bhava. This principle I am following since a long time. This is meant for small events but not for big events, which are very limited events in life time. such as marriage, birth of children, etc. e.g. I see the RPs of 1. DayLord 2. Moon sign lord 3. Moon Star Lordat this juncture I verify whether these 3 RPs are connected to my 2nd house, 6 or 11, then I will see the other 2 RPs Ascendant signlord and Asc.. starlord whether it is operating in the normal working hours (not being early morning or after 9pm of the day) during that time I used to get my client or somebody visits and gives some money to me. This is one way of testing RP with petty events but not for big things where I have to see the DBA also invariably. This wonder predictions can work successfully with the help of RPS as said by Guruji.Thanks and RegardsOVN MURTHY HYDERABAD 94417 78427/ 23232212@gro ups.com, " Ramani " <kadavasalramani@ ...> wrote: >> Dear Sri Naidu,> > Pl. don't underestimate Sri R.Dhanabalan for his query on> DBA. He has raised this query with some specific purpose> and reason. It is because, one gentleman posing himsel as a revolutionist has delivered lecture with many shortcut ideas, in which he has asserted that the DBAs are of no use for deciding event; instead he insists for applying RPs. > On this, Sri Dhanabalan, it seems has initiated a debate> on this subject. Let us watch his further observations. .> > Regards,> > K.S.V.Ramani > ----- Original Message ----- > K. P. Naidu > @gro ups.com > Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:28 PM > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > > > > Dear Mr.Dhanabalan<> > It is surprising to find such a question from you having good knowledge of the subject of KP. > DBAS method is for predicting the timing of event. whether the event is promised or not is not dependent on DBAS. All this you may be knowing. Then why you have put such a question ? what exactly you expect from the members ? > > Thanks & Regds.> > Naidu KP> > > > K. P.. Naidu,> Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> Nowroji Road,> Maharanipeta,> VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > --- On Mon, 20/4/09, ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...> wrote:> > > ajoy s.. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...>> Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > @gro ups.com> Monday, 20 April, 2009, 6:10 PM> > > Dear Dhanabalan> > Correct prediction in KP can be given without DBA but the timing of the event predicted will require DBA.> > regards,> Ajoy> - > Dhanabalan R > kpsystem groups > Monday, April 20, 2009 8:39 AM> Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > Dear Members> Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA? > Dhanabalan > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter now! Now surf faster and smarter ! Check out the new Firefox 3 - Edition * Click here! 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Guest guest Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Dear AdithMer is in su star, l/o 9 in5.Su is the star lord of 2 6 10 cusps. So divorce,in March '81, as rightly calclated by u.RegrdsSujataadith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath Sent: Monday, 4 May, 2009 12:10:27 AMRe: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP Dear Sujatha ji,Mercury is in the star of Sun and Sub of Mercury itself. This subLord Mercury signfies 2,7 through its star lord Sun. Is it ok now?Pls note when a planet is in its own sub, its star lord signfications are very strong! Since the star lord is also the star lord of the sub lord.and the significations are double time emphasized. I have seen it! RegardsAdithOn Sun, May 3, 2009 at 11:24 PM, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> wrote: Dear AdithWhat u r saying is that mer will activate 2 7 through sun, the star depositor of mer. Had sun been the sublord of mer,this reasoning would be acceptable. What u r saying is akin to Dr Kar's MST F3Ven in star of mer in 6, l/o 8 10 , had given the 2nd marriage.If we go Mr kundaninathan's article,' CSL diverts dasa results', then, mer can give marriage RegardsSujata adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>@gro ups.com Saturday, 2 May, 2009 10:46:18 PMRe: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP Dear Sujatha ji,Pls check the following details in your chart:Mercury is in the star of Sun and in the sub of Mercury itself.Mercury is in 6 .. but there is a planet (Venus) in Mercury star. Mercury's star lord Sun is in 5 (lord of 9). Sun is in the star of Venus (lord of 6, 7 and 11 feebly) in 4. Also it is in the sub of Jupiter (lord of 2 ) in its own star.. Further Venus is in the star of Mercury in 6.These 2, 5,7,11 is more than enough to lead a marriage! and the 4,6 would have lead to unhappy marital life later!RegardsAdith On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 2:58 PM, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> wrote: Dear Mr Dhanbalan No one has been able to explain how I got married in mer bhukti or its starday when it doesn'signify 2 7 11.My faith in astrology is declining.RegardsSujata Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > Sent: Friday, 1 May, 2009 9:48:39 PM Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP Dear Members No one has clarified my doubt so far. How we are fixing DBA for marriage? As per KP, the DBA is selected from 2,7,11 house significators.. I have proved that about 40% of the cases, marriage is celebrated in the DBA which is not the significators of 2,7,11 houses. In support of my statement, I have already posted 12 charts about two months back. There was no comment from seniors about those charts till now. Please confirm first whether the system we are following to arrive the DBA from primary significators is correct. Some may suggest to add 5th and 8th houses for marriage. Some may tell that 8th house is for divorce. In general, for any event, there must be one main house and two supporting houses. More than two supporting houses may lead to confusion. Dhanabalan.--- On Thu, 4/30/09, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in> wrote: Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in>Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP @gro ups.comThursday, April 30, 2009, 7:56 AM Dear all members, I am a new member of your group. I too feel that we must consider DBA to work out the date of the happening. Without DBA the system may work only half which is ultimately of no use. Regards Vishram Deshpande--- On Wed, 29/4/09, Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP @gro ups.comWednesday, 29 April, 2009, 10:39 AM Dear Sri Murthygaru, An excellent clarification. As you say it may work out correctly by using RPs for minor events. I don't know how far it will work out for major events without appling DBA. My warmth appreciation for your research mindedness. Regards, K.S.V.Ramani - OVN MURTHY @gro ups.com Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:25 PM Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP Dear Sri Konthala P Naidu/ Sri KSV Ramani ji,The following is the line given by Sri Dhanbalan ji,"Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA?"As said by Sri Ramani; Sri Dhanbalan was born in Rahu- lagna sublord in Sagi Asc. Rahu is in Venus star who is lord of 5n10 on 9th cusp orb and I hope that is why he puts very tough ideas where it requires analytical thinking and create no thoughts on this subject as said by Sri KSK ji to do research more on diferent concepts... It seems he might attended the astrology seminar conducted recently in Chennai.According to my mind in KP u will know the results of each birth chart by identifying the sublords and significators of various houses, then u will apply the same to the DBA to identify when it will take place ( in case more significtors then ur using the RPs to filter the significators) as said by Sri Naidu, Vizag. Now this new idea of Sri Dhanbalan is without going to DBA only by RPs who are the significators of the concerned Bhavas would give the result on the concerned bhava on the day Where the RPs are matching with bhava. This principle I am following since a long time. This is meant for small events but not for big events, which are very limited events in life time. such as marriage, birth of children, etc. e.g. I see the RPs of 1. DayLord 2. Moon sign lord 3. Moon Star Lordat this juncture I verify whether these 3 RPs are connected to my 2nd house, 6 or 11, then I will see the other 2 RPs Ascendant signlord and Asc.. starlord whether it is operating in the normal working hours (not being early morning or after 9pm of the day) during that time I used to get my client or somebody visits and gives some money to me. This is one way of testing RP with petty events but not for big things where I have to see the DBA also invariably. This wonder predictions can work successfully with the help of RPS as said by Guruji.Thanks and RegardsOVN MURTHY HYDERABAD 94417 78427/ 23232212@gro ups.com, "Ramani" <kadavasalramani@ ...> wrote: >> Dear Sri Naidu,> > Pl. don't underestimate Sri R.Dhanabalan for his query on> DBA. He has raised this query with some specific purpose> and reason. It is because, one gentleman posing himsel as a revolutionist has delivered lecture with many shortcut ideas, in which he has asserted that the DBAs are of no use for deciding event; instead he insists for applying RPs. > On this, Sri Dhanabalan, it seems has initiated a debate> on this subject. Let us watch his further observations. .> > Regards,> > K.S.V.Ramani > ----- Original Message ----- > K. P. Naidu > @gro ups.com > Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:28 PM > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > > > > Dear Mr.Dhanabalan<> > It is surprising to find such a question from you having good knowledge of the subject of KP. > DBAS method is for predicting the timing of event. whether the event is promised or not is not dependent on DBAS. All this you may be knowing. Then why you have put such a question ? what exactly you expect from the members ? > > Thanks & Regds.> > Naidu KP> > > > K. P.. Naidu,> Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> Nowroji Road,> Maharanipeta,> VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > --- On Mon, 20/4/09, ajoy s.. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...> wrote:> > > ajoy s.. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...>> Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > @gro ups.com> Monday, 20 April, 2009, 6:10 PM> > > Dear Dhanabalan> > Correct prediction in KP can be given without DBA but the timing of the event predicted will require DBA.> > regards,> Ajoy> - > Dhanabalan R > kpsystem groups > Monday, April 20, 2009 8:39 AM> Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > Dear Members> Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA? > Dhanabalan > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter now! Now surf faster and smarter ! Check out the new Firefox 3 - Edition * Click here! 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Guest guest Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Dear Mr RathThe CSL of 3 5 7 9 11 are tallying with rasis of my brothers and children. Date of joining service, accident, child birth etc are talling. The transit of significators by DBAs also tallies..For example on 12-7-78 in joining service in Ju ME Ra mo starday, sun was transiting me ju ke (ke is agent of me). Ju was in me ju me, me was in mo me ve, mo was in me mo ra (ra is agent of ju). the significators of 2 6 10 11 are ju sa me ma ke ve mo I have checked every event again and again. I have tried adjusting time but this seems to be the correct timeI also found a 50yr old horoscope of mine which showed the TOB as 9-20 pm, according to which my lagna CSL would have been moon, the badhaka.Dr Kar and Mr K. Ganpathy have stated it to be 9-37 pm with only 1 minutes difference..RegardsSujata Luther Rath <rathluther Sent: Sunday, 3 May, 2009 10:19:53 AMRe: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP Dear Sujataji, There still remains a confusion in your birth time. Yourself is not sure about the time. So it is a diferent issue. Dr. Rath. sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>@gro ups.comSaturday, May 2, 2009 2:58:27 PMRe: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP Dear Mr Dhanbalan No one has been able to explain how I got married in mer bhukti or its starday when it doesn'signify 2 7 11.My faith in astrology is declining.RegardsSujata Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > Sent: Friday, 1 May, 2009 9:48:39 PMRe: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP Dear Members No one has clarified my doubt so far. How we are fixing DBA for marriage? As per KP, the DBA is selected from 2,7,11 house significators. I have proved that about 40% of the cases, marriage is celebrated in the DBA which is not the significators of 2,7,11 houses. In support of my statement, I have already posted 12 charts about two months back. There was no comment from seniors about those charts till now. Please confirm first whether the system we are following to arrive the DBA from primary significators is correct. Some may suggest to add 5th and 8th houses for marriage. Some may tell that 8th house is for divorce. In general, for any event, there must be one main house and two supporting houses. More than two supporting houses may lead to confusion. Dhanabalan.--- On Thu, 4/30/09, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in> wrote: Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in>Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP@gro ups.comThursday, April 30, 2009, 7:56 AM Dear all members, I am a new member of your group. I too feel that we must consider DBA to work out the date of the happening. Without DBA the system may work only half which is ultimately of no use. Regards Vishram Deshpande--- On Wed, 29/4/09, Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP@gro ups.comWednesday, 29 April, 2009, 10:39 AM Dear Sri Murthygaru, An excellent clarification. As you say it may work out correctly by using RPs for minor events. I don't know how far it will work out for major events without appling DBA. My warmth appreciation for your research mindedness. Regards, K.S.V.Ramani - OVN MURTHY @gro ups.com Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:25 PM Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP Dear Sri Konthala P Naidu/ Sri KSV Ramani ji,The following is the line given by Sri Dhanbalan ji,"Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA?"As said by Sri Ramani; Sri Dhanbalan was born in Rahu- lagna sublord in Sagi Asc. Rahu is in Venus star who is lord of 5n10 on 9th cusp orb and I hope that is why he puts very tough ideas where it requires analytical thinking and create no thoughts on this subject as said by Sri KSK ji to do research more on diferent concepts..It seems he might attended the astrology seminar conducted recently in Chennai.According to my mind in KP u will know the results of each birth chart by identifying the sublords and significators of various houses, then u will apply the same to the DBA to identify when it will take place ( in case more significtors then ur using the RPs to filter the significators) as said by Sri Naidu, Vizag. Now this new idea of Sri Dhanbalan is without going to DBA only by RPs who are the significators of the concerned Bhavas would give the result on the concerned bhava on the day Where the RPs are matching with bhava.. This principle I am following since a long time. This is meant for small events but not for big events, which are very limited events in life time. such as marriage, birth of children, etc.e.g. I see the RPs of 1. DayLord 2. Moon sign lord 3. Moon Star Lordat this juncture I verify whether these 3 RPs are connected to my 2nd house, 6 or 11, then I will see the other 2 RPs Ascendant signlord and Asc.. starlord whether it is operating in the normal working hours (not being early morning or after 9pm of the day) during that time I used to get my client or somebody visits and gives some money to me. This is one way of testing RP with petty events but not for big things where I have to see the DBA also invariably. This wonder predictions can work successfully with the help of RPS as said by Guruji.Thanks and RegardsOVN MURTHY HYDERABAD 94417 78427/ 23232212@gro ups.com, "Ramani" <kadavasalramani@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sri Naidu,> > Pl. don't underestimate Sri R.Dhanabalan for his query on> DBA. He has raised this query with some specific purpose> and reason. It is because, one gentleman posing himsel as a revolutionist has delivered lecture with many shortcut ideas, in which he has asserted that the DBAs are of no use for deciding event; instead he insists for applying RPs.> On this, Sri Dhanabalan, it seems has initiated a debate> on this subject. Let us watch his further observations. .> > Regards,> > K.S.V.Ramani > ----- Original Message ----- > K. P. Naidu > @gro ups.com > Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:28 PM> Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > > > > Dear Mr.Dhanabalan<> > It is surprising to find such a question from you having good knowledge of the subject of KP.> DBAS method is for predicting the timing of event. whether the event is promised or not is not dependent on DBAS. All this you may be knowing. Then why you have put such a question ? what exactly you expect from the members ?> > Thanks & Regds.> > Naidu KP> > > > K. P.. Naidu,> Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> Nowroji Road,> Maharanipeta,> VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > --- On Mon, 20/4/09, ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...> wrote:> > > ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...>> Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> @gro ups.com> Monday, 20 April, 2009, 6:10 PM> > > Dear Dhanabalan> > Correct prediction in KP can be given without DBA but the timing of the event predicted will require DBA.> > regards,> Ajoy> - > Dhanabalan R > kpsystem groups > Monday, April 20, 2009 8:39 AM> Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > Dear Members> Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA?> Dhanabalan > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter now! Now surf faster and smarter ! Check out the new Firefox 3 - Edition * Click here! Now surf faster and smarter ! 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Guest guest Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Dear Sujata ji Really I am very surprise, to see youe statements, regarding your mariiage period, i dont know too much KP system, but I dont know any thinh KP system, but when we have tp predict marriage of any female , then we have to seeDasha of saptamesh, lagnesh, anavam bhav ,and Pancham bhave and bhavesh when they making Yuti , and jupitre in transite in lagan, Rashi , pancham , saptam, and navam bhav, . as per my opinion, any astrogers should examin horoscope, gochar, varshpahala, and then can confirm by horoary, really it will work. Basically I , have Phd in medicinal Chemsitry and have more than 20 yeras wxperince in the field of Pharamaceuticals, and when i was in truble Astrology given lot of help , so i am doing for others, but this subject needs lot of concentration, dedication , and Astha, so why use to say occult science. I humbly request to you that you go a deep study and dont get upset, go slowly in this feild and enjoy your time. Regards DR A .K Mishra+416 519 1209--- On Sat, 5/2/09, sujata das <sujatadash1 wrote: sujata das <sujatadash1Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP Received: Saturday, May 2, 2009, 5:28 AM Dear Mr Dhanbalan No one has been able to explain how I got married in mer bhukti or its starday when it doesn'signify 2 7 11.My faith in astrology is declining.RegardsSujata Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > Sent: Friday, 1 May, 2009 9:48:39 PMRe: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP Dear Members No one has clarified my doubt so far. How we are fixing DBA for marriage? As per KP, the DBA is selected from 2,7,11 house significators. I have proved that about 40% of the cases, marriage is celebrated in the DBA which is not the significators of 2,7,11 houses. In support of my statement, I have already posted 12 charts about two months back. There was no comment from seniors about those charts till now. Please confirm first whether the system we are following to arrive the DBA from primary significators is correct. Some may suggest to add 5th and 8th houses for marriage. Some may tell that 8th house is for divorce. In general, for any event, there must be one main house and two supporting houses. More than two supporting houses may lead to confusion. Dhanabalan.--- On Thu, 4/30/09, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in> wrote: Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in>Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP@gro ups.comThursday, April 30, 2009, 7:56 AM Dear all members, I am a new member of your group. I too feel that we must consider DBA to work out the date of the happening. Without DBA the system may work only half which is ultimately of no use. Regards Vishram Deshpande--- On Wed, 29/4/09, Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP@gro ups.comWednesday, 29 April, 2009, 10:39 AM Dear Sri Murthygaru, An excellent clarification. As you say it may work out correctly by using RPs for minor events. I don't know how far it will work out for major events without appling DBA. My warmth appreciation for your research mindedness. Regards, K.S.V.Ramani - OVN MURTHY @gro ups.com Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:25 PM Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP Dear Sri Konthala P Naidu/ Sri KSV Ramani ji,The following is the line given by Sri Dhanbalan ji,"Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA?"As said by Sri Ramani; Sri Dhanbalan was born in Rahu- lagna sublord in Sagi Asc. Rahu is in Venus star who is lord of 5n10 on 9th cusp orb and I hope that is why he puts very tough ideas where it requires analytical thinking and create no thoughts on this subject as said by Sri KSK ji to do research more on diferent concepts..It seems he might attended the astrology seminar conducted recently in Chennai.According to my mind in KP u will know the results of each birth chart by identifying the sublords and significators of various houses, then u will apply the same to the DBA to identify when it will take place ( in case more significtors then ur using the RPs to filter the significators) as said by Sri Naidu, Vizag. Now this new idea of Sri Dhanbalan is without going to DBA only by RPs who are the significators of the concerned Bhavas would give the result on the concerned bhava on the day Where the RPs are matching with bhava. This principle I am following since a long time. This is meant for small events but not for big events, which are very limited events in life time. such as marriage, birth of children, etc.e.g. I see the RPs of 1. DayLord 2. Moon sign lord 3. Moon Star Lordat this juncture I verify whether these 3 RPs are connected to my 2nd house, 6 or 11, then I will see the other 2 RPs Ascendant signlord and Asc.. starlord whether it is operating in the normal working hours (not being early morning or after 9pm of the day) during that time I used to get my client or somebody visits and gives some money to me. This is one way of testing RP with petty events but not for big things where I have to see the DBA also invariably. This wonder predictions can work successfully with the help of RPS as said by Guruji.Thanks and RegardsOVN MURTHY HYDERABAD 94417 78427/ 23232212@gro ups.com, "Ramani" <kadavasalramani@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sri Naidu,> > Pl. don't underestimate Sri R.Dhanabalan for his query on> DBA. He has raised this query with some specific purpose> and reason. It is because, one gentleman posing himsel as a revolutionist has delivered lecture with many shortcut ideas, in which he has asserted that the DBAs are of no use for deciding event; instead he insists for applying RPs.> On this, Sri Dhanabalan, it seems has initiated a debate> on this subject. Let us watch his further observations. .> > Regards,> > K.S.V.Ramani > ----- Original Message ----- > K. P. Naidu > @gro ups.com > Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:28 PM> Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > > > > Dear Mr.Dhanabalan<> > It is surprising to find such a question from you having good knowledge of the subject of KP.> DBAS method is for predicting the timing of event. whether the event is promised or not is not dependent on DBAS. All this you may be knowing. Then why you have put such a question ? what exactly you expect from the members ?> > Thanks & Regds.> > Naidu KP> > > > K. P.. Naidu,> Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> Nowroji Road,> Maharanipeta,> VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > --- On Mon, 20/4/09, ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...> wrote:> > > ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...>> Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> @gro ups.com> Monday, 20 April, 2009, 6:10 PM> > > Dear Dhanabalan> > Correct prediction in KP can be given without DBA but the timing of the event predicted will require DBA.> > regards,> Ajoy> - > Dhanabalan R > kpsystem groups > Monday, April 20, 2009 8:39 AM> Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > Dear Members> Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA?> Dhanabalan > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter now! Now surf faster and smarter ! Check out the new Firefox 3 - Edition * Click here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 Dear Group Members, 4th chart Quiz 5 wife's chart now discussed as 4th email. As the members are aware that Sri Dhanabalan ji has given 10 charts with birth details and marriage details wherein he claimed that the 4 fold DBAS have not connected to 2,7,11 as per the KP Rules, however marriages have taken place. In this connection he requested the members to offer their comments on this issue where KP rules have failed. NOW I AM ATTEMPTING THE FOURTH CHART OF QUIZ 5 WIFE'S CHART. The FOURTH chart was 5Quiz5Wife.pdf was loaded in the files section in separate folder viz. 10 Marriage DBA 4 Fold. In this file the second page indicates my findings how the marriage has taken place in the DBA Ve-Ju-Sa-Ve, who are significators of 2,7,11 as given in the 1st page with bold and underlined. The s/w used is Future Point. leogold of sri Arun Bansal of NewDelhi. Jupiter is l/o 1n10 in 8th Libra in Swathi- Rahu in 12th Sat rasi lord who is in 2nd and 11th lord unoccupied, 12 occupied by Rahu. Jupiter sub is Saturn who is in 2nd as lord of 11th, in Venus star a karaka for marriage. Venus DasaLord in Mer star and Sat sub strong significator for marriage. Bhukthi lord Jupiter as said above and being Retro he is weak at 1n10 ownership and the next house is strong as per Astro secrets i.e. 2n11 house in 8th. Anthara and Sookshama are Sat n Ven both are strong significators. Here Jup sublord speaks Saturn for giving Marriage. Further charts will be analyzed one after another and will be sent to the group. Plz go thru the files section whenin I have kept this pdf file viz. 5quiz5Wife.pdf in Directory 10 Marriage DBAS 4 Fold. I came to know some members who are not very conversant with systems are unable to go to the files section to download the pdf files. Hence I request the Moderator to do the needful. Regards OVN Murthy, M.Com.FCS, ICWAI, PGDPA. Company Secretary Nizam Sugards Limited, Bashirbagh, Hyderabad 13. Ph. 040-23232212, res. 27405975 Mob. 94417 78427 www.saibhavishyavani.com ovnmurthy , " OVN MURTHY " <ovnmurthy wrote: > > > Dear Group Members, > > 3rd chart Dhanabalan's Friend now discussed as 3rd email. > > As the members are aware that Sri Dhanabalan ji has given 10 charts with birth details and marriage details wherein he claimed that the 4 fold DBAS have not connected to 2,7,11 as per the KP Rules, however marriages have taken place. In this connection he requested the members to offer their comments on this issue where KP rules have failed. NOW I AM ATTEMPTING THE THIRD CHART OF HIS FRIEND. > > The THIRD chart was 4.Dhanabalan Friend.pdf was loaded in the files section in separate folder viz. 10 Marriage DBA 4 Fold. In this file the second page indicates my findings how the marriage has taken place in the DBA Su-Me-Me, who are significators of 2,7,11 as given in the 1st page with bold and underlined. The s/w used is Future Point. leogold of sri Arun Bansal of NewDelhi. > > 3rd chart 4Dhanabalan Friend.pdf > > > 7th corulers Mo-Sa-Ra: Moon /Sat 7th significators. Rahu node in Sat sign who is lord 2 in Moon star 7th lord; Present DBA, Sun-Mer-Me-Mar; Sun in Rahu, Mer in Rahu whose 7th sublord. Nodes r always strong. Mars sookshma who is in Venus star karaka in 8th, Mars is lord of 11th . Hence there is no negative connection to 7th csl and DBAS. > > Further charts will be analyzed one after another and will be sent to the group. Plz go thru the files section whenin I have kept this pdf file viz.1Dhanabalan Daughter.pdf in Directory 10 Marriage DBAS 4 Fold > > Regards > > OVN Murthy, M.Com.FCS, ICWAI, PGDPA. > Company Secretary > Nizam Sugards Limited, > Bashirbagh, Hyderabad 13. Ph. 040-23232212, res. 27405975 > Mob. 94417 78427 > www.saibhavishyavani.com ovnmurthy > , Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@> wrote: > > > > Dear Members > > No one has clarified my doubt so far. > > How we are fixing DBA for marriage? > > As per KP, the DBA is selected from 2,7,11 house significators. I have proved that about 40% of the cases, marriage is celebrated in the DBA which is not the significators of 2,7,11 houses. In support of my statement, I have already posted 12 charts about two months back. There was no comment from seniors about those charts till now. Please confirm first whether the system we are following to arrive the DBA from primary significators is correct. > > Some may suggest to add 5th and 8th houses for marriage. > > Some may tell that 8th house is for divorce. > > In general, for any event, there must be one main house and two supporting houses. More than two supporting houses may lead to confusion. > > Dhanabalan. > > > > --- On Thu, 4/30/09, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@> wrote: > > > > Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@> > > Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > > Thursday, April 30, 2009, 7:56 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all members, > > > > I am a new member of your group. I too feel that we must consider DBA to work out the date of the happening. Without DBA the system may work only half which is ultimately of no use. > > > > Regards > > > > Vishram Deshpande > > > > --- On Wed, 29/4/09, Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> > > Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > @gro ups.com > > Wednesday, 29 April, 2009, 10:39 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Murthygaru, > > > > An excellent clarification. As you say it may work out correctly by using RPs for minor events. I don't know how far it will work out for major events without appling DBA. > > My warmth appreciation for your research mindedness. > > > > Regards, > > > > K.S.V.Ramani > > > > > > > > - > > OVN MURTHY > > @gro ups.com > > Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:25 PM > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Konthala P Naidu/ Sri KSV Ramani ji, > > > > The following is the line given by Sri Dhanbalan ji, > > > > " Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA? " > > > > As said by Sri Ramani; Sri Dhanbalan was born in Rahu- lagna sublord in Sagi Asc. Rahu is in Venus star who is lord of 5n10 on 9th cusp orb and I hope that is why he puts very tough ideas where it requires analytical thinking and create no thoughts on this subject as said by Sri KSK ji to do research more on diferent concepts. > > > > It seems he might attended the astrology seminar conducted recently in Chennai. > > > > According to my mind in KP u will know the results of each birth chart by identifying the sublords and significators of various houses, then u will apply the same to the DBA to identify when it will take place ( in case more significtors then ur using the RPs to filter the significators) as said by Sri Naidu, Vizag. > > > > Now this new idea of Sri Dhanbalan is without going to DBA only by RPs who are the significators of the concerned Bhavas would give the result on the concerned bhava on the day Where the RPs are matching with bhava. This principle I am following since a long time. This is meant for small events but not for big events, which are very limited events in life time. such as marriage, birth of children, etc. > > > > e.g. I see the RPs of 1. DayLord 2. Moon sign lord 3. Moon Star Lord > > at this juncture I verify whether these 3 RPs are connected to my 2nd house, 6 or 11, then I will see the other 2 RPs Ascendant signlord and Asc.. starlord whether it is operating in the normal working hours (not being early morning or after 9pm of the day) during that time I used to get my client or somebody visits and gives some money to me. This is one way of testing RP with petty events but not for big things where I have to see the DBA also invariably. This wonder predictions can work successfully with the help of RPS as said by Guruji. > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > OVN MURTHY HYDERABAD 94417 78427/ 23232212 > > > > @gro ups.com, " Ramani " <kadavasalramani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sri Naidu, > > > > > > Pl. don't underestimate Sri R.Dhanabalan for his query on > > > DBA. He has raised this query with some specific purpose > > > and reason. It is because, one gentleman posing himsel as a revolutionist has delivered lecture with many shortcut ideas, in which he has asserted that the DBAs are of no use for deciding event; instead he insists for applying RPs. > > > On this, Sri Dhanabalan, it seems has initiated a debate > > > on this subject. Let us watch his further observations. . > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani > > > - > > > K. P. Naidu > > > @gro ups.com > > > Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:28 PM > > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr.Dhanabalan< > > > > > > It is surprising to find such a question from you having good knowledge of the subject of KP. > > > DBAS method is for predicting the timing of event. whether the event is promised or not is not dependent on DBAS. All this you may be knowing. Then why you have put such a question ? what exactly you expect from the members ? > > > > > > Thanks & Regds. > > > > > > Naidu KP > > > > > > > > > > > > K. P. Naidu, > > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., > > > Nowroji Road, > > > Maharanipeta, > > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > > > > > > --- On Mon, 20/4/09, ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...> > > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > @gro ups.com > > > Monday, 20 April, 2009, 6:10 PM > > > > > > > > > Dear Dhanabalan > > > > > > Correct prediction in KP can be given without DBA but the timing of the event predicted will require DBA. > > > > > > regards, > > > Ajoy > > > - > > > Dhanabalan R > > > kpsystem groups > > > Monday, April 20, 2009 8:39 AM > > > Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > > > > > > > Dear Members > > > Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA? > > > Dhanabalan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cricket on your mind? 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Guest guest Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 Dear Sujatha ji,Thanks!AdithOn Mon, May 4, 2009 at 6:31 PM, sujata das <sujatadash1 wrote: Dear AdithMer is in su star, l/o 9 in5.Su is the star lord of 2 6 10 cusps. So divorce,in March '81, as rightly calclated by u. RegrdsSujata adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath Sent: Monday, 4 May, 2009 12:10:27 AMRe: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP Dear Sujatha ji,Mercury is in the star of Sun and Sub of Mercury itself. This subLord Mercury signfies 2,7 through its star lord Sun. Is it ok now?Pls note when a planet is in its own sub, its star lord signfications are very strong! Since the star lord is also the star lord of the sub lord.and the significations are double time emphasized. I have seen it! RegardsAdithOn Sun, May 3, 2009 at 11:24 PM, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> wrote: Dear AdithWhat u r saying is that mer will activate 2 7 through sun, the star depositor of mer. Had sun been the sublord of mer,this reasoning would be acceptable. What u r saying is akin to Dr Kar's MST F3Ven in star of mer in 6, l/o 8 10 , had given the 2nd marriage.If we go Mr kundaninathan's article,' CSL diverts dasa results', then, mer can give marriage RegardsSujata adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>@gro ups.com Saturday, 2 May, 2009 10:46:18 PMRe: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP Dear Sujatha ji,Pls check the following details in your chart:Mercury is in the star of Sun and in the sub of Mercury itself.Mercury is in 6 .. but there is a planet (Venus) in Mercury star. Mercury's star lord Sun is in 5 (lord of 9). Sun is in the star of Venus (lord of 6, 7 and 11 feebly) in 4. Also it is in the sub of Jupiter (lord of 2 ) in its own star.. Further Venus is in the star of Mercury in 6.These 2, 5,7,11 is more than enough to lead a marriage! and the 4,6 would have lead to unhappy marital life later!RegardsAdith On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 2:58 PM, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> wrote: Dear Mr Dhanbalan No one has been able to explain how I got married in mer bhukti or its starday when it doesn'signify 2 7 11.My faith in astrology is declining.RegardsSujata Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > Sent: Friday, 1 May, 2009 9:48:39 PM Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP Dear Members No one has clarified my doubt so far. How we are fixing DBA for marriage? As per KP, the DBA is selected from 2,7,11 house significators.. I have proved that about 40% of the cases, marriage is celebrated in the DBA which is not the significators of 2,7,11 houses. In support of my statement, I have already posted 12 charts about two months back. There was no comment from seniors about those charts till now. Please confirm first whether the system we are following to arrive the DBA from primary significators is correct. Some may suggest to add 5th and 8th houses for marriage. Some may tell that 8th house is for divorce. In general, for any event, there must be one main house and two supporting houses. More than two supporting houses may lead to confusion. Dhanabalan.--- On Thu, 4/30/09, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in> wrote: Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in>Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP @gro ups.comThursday, April 30, 2009, 7:56 AM Dear all members, I am a new member of your group. I too feel that we must consider DBA to work out the date of the happening. Without DBA the system may work only half which is ultimately of no use. Regards Vishram Deshpande--- On Wed, 29/4/09, Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP @gro ups.comWednesday, 29 April, 2009, 10:39 AM Dear Sri Murthygaru, An excellent clarification. As you say it may work out correctly by using RPs for minor events. I don't know how far it will work out for major events without appling DBA. My warmth appreciation for your research mindedness. Regards, K.S.V.Ramani - OVN MURTHY @gro ups.com Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:25 PM Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP Dear Sri Konthala P Naidu/ Sri KSV Ramani ji,The following is the line given by Sri Dhanbalan ji, " Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA? " As said by Sri Ramani; Sri Dhanbalan was born in Rahu- lagna sublord in Sagi Asc. Rahu is in Venus star who is lord of 5n10 on 9th cusp orb and I hope that is why he puts very tough ideas where it requires analytical thinking and create no thoughts on this subject as said by Sri KSK ji to do research more on diferent concepts... It seems he might attended the astrology seminar conducted recently in Chennai.According to my mind in KP u will know the results of each birth chart by identifying the sublords and significators of various houses, then u will apply the same to the DBA to identify when it will take place ( in case more significtors then ur using the RPs to filter the significators) as said by Sri Naidu, Vizag. Now this new idea of Sri Dhanbalan is without going to DBA only by RPs who are the significators of the concerned Bhavas would give the result on the concerned bhava on the day Where the RPs are matching with bhava. This principle I am following since a long time. This is meant for small events but not for big events, which are very limited events in life time. such as marriage, birth of children, etc. e.g. I see the RPs of 1. DayLord 2. Moon sign lord 3. Moon Star Lordat this juncture I verify whether these 3 RPs are connected to my 2nd house, 6 or 11, then I will see the other 2 RPs Ascendant signlord and Asc.. starlord whether it is operating in the normal working hours (not being early morning or after 9pm of the day) during that time I used to get my client or somebody visits and gives some money to me. This is one way of testing RP with petty events but not for big things where I have to see the DBA also invariably. This wonder predictions can work successfully with the help of RPS as said by Guruji.Thanks and RegardsOVN MURTHY HYDERABAD 94417 78427/ 23232212@gro ups.com, " Ramani " <kadavasalramani@ ...> wrote: >> Dear Sri Naidu,> > Pl. don't underestimate Sri R.Dhanabalan for his query on> DBA. He has raised this query with some specific purpose> and reason. It is because, one gentleman posing himsel as a revolutionist has delivered lecture with many shortcut ideas, in which he has asserted that the DBAs are of no use for deciding event; instead he insists for applying RPs. > On this, Sri Dhanabalan, it seems has initiated a debate> on this subject. Let us watch his further observations. .> > Regards,> > K.S.V.Ramani > ----- Original Message ----- > K. P. Naidu > @gro ups.com > Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:28 PM > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > > > > Dear Mr.Dhanabalan<> > It is surprising to find such a question from you having good knowledge of the subject of KP. > DBAS method is for predicting the timing of event. whether the event is promised or not is not dependent on DBAS. All this you may be knowing. Then why you have put such a question ? what exactly you expect from the members ? > > Thanks & Regds.> > Naidu KP> > > > K. P.. Naidu,> Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> Nowroji Road,> Maharanipeta,> VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > --- On Mon, 20/4/09, ajoy s.. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...> wrote:> > > ajoy s.. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...>> Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > @gro ups.com> Monday, 20 April, 2009, 6:10 PM> > > Dear Dhanabalan> > Correct prediction in KP can be given without DBA but the timing of the event predicted will require DBA.> > regards,> Ajoy> - > Dhanabalan R > kpsystem groups > Monday, April 20, 2009 8:39 AM> Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > Dear Members> Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA? > Dhanabalan > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter now! Now surf faster and smarter ! Check out the new Firefox 3 - Edition * Click here! 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Guest guest Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 Dear Group Members, 5th chart 7female now discussed as 5th email. As the members are aware that Sri Dhanabalan ji has given 10 charts with birth details and marriage details wherein he claimed that the 4 fold DBAS have not connected to 2,7,11 as per the KP Rules, however marriages have taken place. In this connection he requested the members to offer their comments on this issue where KP rules have failed. NOW I AM ATTEMPTING THE FIFTH CHART OF 7 FEMALE. In this connection I wish to submit that in the 6Female chart the DBA did not supported ( Moon n Mercury as said by Sri Dhanbalanji) the Marriage and it is failed even in other advanced rules are not satisfied but marriage has taken place. It is as follows: " 6. Female DOB:10-09-1976,20-35PM,Salem Marriage date:23-11-1999 at Salem DBAS on 23-11-1999 are:Ven-Ven-Moon-Mercury Four fold table II Jup,Sun,Ven VII Rahu,Sun,Venus XI Saturn Moon and Mercury did not find a place in four fold table Dhanabalan " However in this connection I suspect the time of birth. The FIFTH chart was 7Female.pdf was loaded in the files section in separate folder viz. 10 Marriage DBA 4 Fold. In this file the second page indicates my findings how the marriage has taken place in the DBA Su-Su-Me-Ve, who are significators of 2,7,11 as given in the 1st page with bold and underlined. The s/w used is Future Point. leogold of sri Arun Bansal of NewDelhi. Mercury in 5th with Sun, Venus star who is lord of 2,3,7 in 6, thus Mercury is strong significator of 7th. Sun as lord of 6 in 5th in Kethu star who is node in 10th in Sat sign and in Sun's star who is occupant of 5th. Both 5,7 & 2 are favourable for marriage and marital happiness, conjugal bliss. Mercury is 7th CSL. Hence Sun cannot be eliminated for marriage. Further charts will be analyzed one after another and will be sent to the group. Plz go thru the files section whenin I have kept this pdf file viz. 7Female.pdf in Directory 10 Marriage DBAS 4 Fold. I came to know some members who are not very conversant with systems are unable to go to the files section to download the pdf files. Hence I request the Moderator to do the needful. Regards OVN Murthy, M.Com.FCS, ICWAI, PGDPA. Company Secretary Nizam Sugards Limited, Bashirbagh, Hyderabad 13. Ph. 040-23232212, res. 27405975 Mob. 94417 78427 www.saibhavishyavani.com ovnmurthy , " OVN MURTHY " <ovnmurthy wrote: > > > Dear Group Members, > > As the members are aware that Sri Dhanabalan ji has given 10 charts with birth details and marriage details wherein he claimed that the 4 fold DBAS have not connected to 2,7,11 as per the KP Rules, however marriages have taken place. In this connection he requested the members to offer their comments on this issue where KP rules have failed. Due to my occupation I could not reply at that time, now my year ending is over and I am having little spare time and I want to see the charts in details and whether the marriage period does support the DBA are not. > > The first chart was 1.Dhanabalan.pdf was loaded in the files section in separate folder viz. 10 Marriage DBA 4 Fold. In this file the second page indicates my findings how the marriage has taken place in the DBA Ju-Me-Mo, who are significators of 2,7,11 as given in the 1st page with bold and underlined. The s/w used is Future Point. leogold of sri Arun Bansal of NewDelhi. > > Reg. the 4 fold of kp for giving marriage in Jupiter dasa and Mercury bhukthi verify the corulers at 7th cusp it is Ju-Me-Su, Sun in Mercury star 7th lord in 7th. DB is Ju-Me has given marriage to him. > Jupiter sublord Saturn is lord of 2nd. Mercury is lord of 7th is occupant of 7th. 11th significators are Moon n Mars. I expect if we calculate the Antara in Mercury which started on 30.12.1977 marriage on 4.9.78 would be either Mo/Mars who signifies 11th. > > Further charts will be analyzed one after another and will be sent to the group. Plz go thru the files section whenin I have kept this pdf file viz.1Dhanabalan.pdf in Directory 10 Marriage DBAS 4 Fold > > Regards > > OVN Murthy, M.Com.FCS, ICWAI, PGDPA. > Company Secretary > Nizam Sugards Limited, > Bashirbagh, Hyderabad 13. Ph. 040-23232212, res. 27405975 > Mob. 94417 78427 > www.saibhavishyavani.com ovnmurthy , Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@> wrote: > > > > Dear Members > > No one has clarified my doubt so far. > > How we are fixing DBA for marriage? > > As per KP, the DBA is selected from 2,7,11 house significators. I have proved that about 40% of the cases, marriage is celebrated in the DBA which is not the significators of 2,7,11 houses. In support of my statement, I have already posted 12 charts about two months back. There was no comment from seniors about those charts till now. Please confirm first whether the system we are following to arrive the DBA from primary significators is correct. > > Some may suggest to add 5th and 8th houses for marriage. > > Some may tell that 8th house is for divorce. > > In general, for any event, there must be one main house and two supporting houses. More than two supporting houses may lead to confusion. > > Dhanabalan. > > > > --- On Thu, 4/30/09, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@> wrote: > > > > Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@> > > Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > > Thursday, April 30, 2009, 7:56 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all members, > > > > I am a new member of your group. I too feel that we must consider DBA to work out the date of the happening. Without DBA the system may work only half which is ultimately of no use. > > > > Regards > > > > Vishram Deshpande > > > > --- On Wed, 29/4/09, Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> > > Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > @gro ups.com > > Wednesday, 29 April, 2009, 10:39 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Murthygaru, > > > > An excellent clarification. As you say it may work out correctly by using RPs for minor events. I don't know how far it will work out for major events without appling DBA. > > My warmth appreciation for your research mindedness. > > > > Regards, > > > > K.S.V.Ramani > > > > > > > > - > > OVN MURTHY > > @gro ups.com > > Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:25 PM > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Konthala P Naidu/ Sri KSV Ramani ji, > > > > The following is the line given by Sri Dhanbalan ji, > > > > " Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA? " > > > > As said by Sri Ramani; Sri Dhanbalan was born in Rahu- lagna sublord in Sagi Asc. Rahu is in Venus star who is lord of 5n10 on 9th cusp orb and I hope that is why he puts very tough ideas where it requires analytical thinking and create no thoughts on this subject as said by Sri KSK ji to do research more on diferent concepts. > > > > It seems he might attended the astrology seminar conducted recently in Chennai. > > > > According to my mind in KP u will know the results of each birth chart by identifying the sublords and significators of various houses, then u will apply the same to the DBA to identify when it will take place ( in case more significtors then ur using the RPs to filter the significators) as said by Sri Naidu, Vizag. > > > > Now this new idea of Sri Dhanbalan is without going to DBA only by RPs who are the significators of the concerned Bhavas would give the result on the concerned bhava on the day Where the RPs are matching with bhava. This principle I am following since a long time. This is meant for small events but not for big events, which are very limited events in life time. such as marriage, birth of children, etc. > > > > e.g. I see the RPs of 1. DayLord 2. Moon sign lord 3. Moon Star Lord > > at this juncture I verify whether these 3 RPs are connected to my 2nd house, 6 or 11, then I will see the other 2 RPs Ascendant signlord and Asc.. starlord whether it is operating in the normal working hours (not being early morning or after 9pm of the day) during that time I used to get my client or somebody visits and gives some money to me. This is one way of testing RP with petty events but not for big things where I have to see the DBA also invariably. This wonder predictions can work successfully with the help of RPS as said by Guruji. > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > OVN MURTHY HYDERABAD 94417 78427/ 23232212 > > > > @gro ups.com, " Ramani " <kadavasalramani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sri Naidu, > > > > > > Pl. don't underestimate Sri R.Dhanabalan for his query on > > > DBA. He has raised this query with some specific purpose > > > and reason. It is because, one gentleman posing himsel as a revolutionist has delivered lecture with many shortcut ideas, in which he has asserted that the DBAs are of no use for deciding event; instead he insists for applying RPs. > > > On this, Sri Dhanabalan, it seems has initiated a debate > > > on this subject. Let us watch his further observations. . > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani > > > - > > > K. P. Naidu > > > @gro ups.com > > > Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:28 PM > > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr.Dhanabalan< > > > > > > It is surprising to find such a question from you having good knowledge of the subject of KP. > > > DBAS method is for predicting the timing of event. whether the event is promised or not is not dependent on DBAS. All this you may be knowing. Then why you have put such a question ? what exactly you expect from the members ? > > > > > > Thanks & Regds. > > > > > > Naidu KP > > > > > > > > > > > > K. P. Naidu, > > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., > > > Nowroji Road, > > > Maharanipeta, > > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > > > > > > --- On Mon, 20/4/09, ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...> > > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > @gro ups.com > > > Monday, 20 April, 2009, 6:10 PM > > > > > > > > > Dear Dhanabalan > > > > > > Correct prediction in KP can be given without DBA but the timing of the event predicted will require DBA. > > > > > > regards, > > > Ajoy > > > - > > > Dhanabalan R > > > kpsystem groups > > > Monday, April 20, 2009 8:39 AM > > > Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > > > > > > > Dear Members > > > Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA? > > > Dhanabalan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cricket on your mind? 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Guest guest Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Dear Mr Murthy Would you tell me how I got married in mer bhukti when it does not signify 2 7 11. My dob is 5-5-55, tob is 9-37 pm, as rectified by Dr Kar and Mr K Ganpathy on the basis of events. POB is N. Delhi (latitude 28-37) Regards Sujata--- On Sun, 10/5/09, OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy wrote: OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP Date: Sunday, 10 May, 2009, 8:15 PM Dear Group Members,5th chart 7female now discussed as 5th email.As the members are aware that Sri Dhanabalan ji has given 10 charts with birth details and marriage details wherein he claimed that the 4 fold DBAS have not connected to 2,7,11 as per the KP Rules, however marriages have taken place. In this connection he requested the members to offer their comments on this issue where KP rules have failed. NOW I AM ATTEMPTING THE FIFTH CHART OF 7 FEMALE. In this connection I wish to submit that in the 6Female chart the DBA did not supported ( Moon n Mercury as said by Sri Dhanbalanji) the Marriage and it is failed even in other advanced rules are not satisfied but marriage has taken place. It is as follows:" 6. Female DOB:10-09-1976, 20-35PM,Salem Marriage date:23-11-1999 at SalemDBAS on 23-11-1999 are:Ven-Ven- Moon-Mercury Four fold table II Jup,Sun,Ven VII Rahu,Sun,Venus XI Saturn Moon and Mercury did not find a place in four fold table Dhanabalan"However in this connection I suspect the time of birth.The FIFTH chart was 7Female.pdf was loaded in the files section in separate folder viz. 10 Marriage DBA 4 Fold. In this file the second page indicates my findings how the marriage has taken place in the DBA Su-Su-Me-Ve, who are significators of 2,7,11 as given in the 1st page with bold and underlined. The s/w used is Future Point. leogold of sri Arun Bansal of NewDelhi.Mercury in 5th with Sun, Venus star who is lord of 2,3,7 in 6, thus Mercury is strong significator of 7th. Sun as lord of 6 in 5th in Kethu star who is node in 10th in Sat sign and in Sun's star who is occupant of 5th. Both 5,7 & 2 are favourable for marriage and marital happiness, conjugal bliss. Mercury is 7th CSL. Hence Sun cannot be eliminated for marriage.Further charts will be analyzed one after another and will be sent to the group. Plz go thru the files section whenin I have kept this pdf file viz. 7Female.pdf in Directory 10 Marriage DBAS 4 Fold. I came to know some members who are not very conversant with systems are unable to go to the files section to download the pdf files. Hence I request the Moderator to do the needful.RegardsOVN Murthy, M.Com.FCS, ICWAI, PGDPA.Company SecretaryNizam Sugards Limited,Bashirbagh, Hyderabad 13. Ph. 040-23232212, res. 27405975 Mob. 94417 78427www.saibhavishyavan i.com ovnmurthy (AT) gmail (DOT) com@gro ups.com, "OVN MURTHY" <ovnmurthy@. ..> wrote:>> > Dear Group Members,> > As the members are aware that Sri Dhanabalan ji has given 10 charts with birth details and marriage details wherein he claimed that the 4 fold DBAS have not connected to 2,7,11 as per the KP Rules, however marriages have taken place. In this connection he requested the members to offer their comments on this issue where KP rules have failed. Due to my occupation I could not reply at that time, now my year ending is over and I am having little spare time and I want to see the charts in details and whether the marriage period does support the DBA are not. > > The first chart was 1.Dhanabalan. pdf was loaded in the files section in separate folder viz. 10 Marriage DBA 4 Fold. In this file the second page indicates my findings how the marriage has taken place in the DBA Ju-Me-Mo, who are significators of 2,7,11 as given in the 1st page with bold and underlined. The s/w used is Future Point. leogold of sri Arun Bansal of NewDelhi.> > Reg. the 4 fold of kp for giving marriage in Jupiter dasa and Mercury bhukthi verify the corulers at 7th cusp it is Ju-Me-Su, Sun in Mercury star 7th lord in 7th. DB is Ju-Me has given marriage to him.> Jupiter sublord Saturn is lord of 2nd. Mercury is lord of 7th is occupant of 7th. 11th significators are Moon n Mars. I expect if we calculate the Antara in Mercury which started on 30.12.1977 marriage on 4.9.78 would be either Mo/Mars who signifies 11th.> > Further charts will be analyzed one after another and will be sent to the group. Plz go thru the files section whenin I have kept this pdf file viz.1Dhanabalan. pdf in Directory 10 Marriage DBAS 4 Fold> > Regards> > OVN Murthy, M.Com.FCS, ICWAI, PGDPA.> Company Secretary> Nizam Sugards Limited,> Bashirbagh, Hyderabad 13. Ph. 040-23232212, res. 27405975 > Mob. 94417 78427> www.saibhavishyavan i.com ovnmurthy@.. . > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:> >> > Dear Members> > No one has clarified my doubt so far.> > How we are fixing DBA for marriage?> > As per KP, the DBA is selected from 2,7,11 house significators. I have proved that about 40% of the cases, marriage is celebrated in the DBA which is not the significators of 2,7,11 houses.. In support of my statement, I have already posted 12 charts about two months back. There was no comment from seniors about those charts till now. Please confirm first whether the system we are following to arrive the DBA from primary significators is correct.> > Some may suggest to add 5th and 8th houses for marriage.> > Some may tell that 8th house is for divorce.> > In general, for any event, there must be one main house and two supporting houses. More than two supporting houses may lead to confusion.> > Dhanabalan.> > > > --- On Thu, 4/30/09, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ > wrote:> > > > Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ >> > Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > @gro ups.com> > Thursday, April 30, 2009, 7:56 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all members,> > > > I am a new member of your group. I too feel that we must consider DBA to work out the date of the happening. Without DBA the system may work only half which is ultimately of no use.> > > > Regards> > > > Vishram Deshpande> > > > --- On Wed, 29/4/09, Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > > > > Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>> > Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > @gro ups.com> > Wednesday, 29 April, 2009, 10:39 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Murthygaru,> > > > An excellent clarification. As you say it may work out correctly by using RPs for minor events. I don't know how far it will work out for major events without appling DBA.> > My warmth appreciation for your research mindedness.> > > > Regards,> > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > > > > > > - > > OVN MURTHY > > @gro ups.com > > Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:25 PM> > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Konthala P Naidu/ Sri KSV Ramani ji,> > > > The following is the line given by Sri Dhanbalan ji,> > > > "Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA?"> > > > As said by Sri Ramani; Sri Dhanbalan was born in Rahu- lagna sublord in Sagi Asc.. Rahu is in Venus star who is lord of 5n10 on 9th cusp orb and I hope that is why he puts very tough ideas where it requires analytical thinking and create no thoughts on this subject as said by Sri KSK ji to do research more on diferent concepts.> > > > It seems he might attended the astrology seminar conducted recently in Chennai.> > > > According to my mind in KP u will know the results of each birth chart by identifying the sublords and significators of various houses, then u will apply the same to the DBA to identify when it will take place ( in case more significtors then ur using the RPs to filter the significators) as said by Sri Naidu, Vizag. > > > > Now this new idea of Sri Dhanbalan is without going to DBA only by RPs who are the significators of the concerned Bhavas would give the result on the concerned bhava on the day Where the RPs are matching with bhava. This principle I am following since a long time. This is meant for small events but not for big events, which are very limited events in life time. such as marriage, birth of children, etc.> > > > e.g. I see the RPs of 1. DayLord 2. Moon sign lord 3. Moon Star Lord> > at this juncture I verify whether these 3 RPs are connected to my 2nd house, 6 or 11, then I will see the other 2 RPs Ascendant signlord and Asc.. starlord whether it is operating in the normal working hours (not being early morning or after 9pm of the day) during that time I used to get my client or somebody visits and gives some money to me. This is one way of testing RP with petty events but not for big things where I have to see the DBA also invariably. This wonder predictions can work successfully with the help of RPS as said by Guruji.> > > > Thanks and Regards> > > > OVN MURTHY HYDERABAD 94417 78427/ 23232212> > > > @gro ups.com, "Ramani" <kadavasalramani@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sri Naidu,> > > > > > Pl. don't underestimate Sri R.Dhanabalan for his query on> > > DBA. He has raised this query with some specific purpose> > > and reason. It is because, one gentleman posing himsel as a revolutionist has delivered lecture with many shortcut ideas, in which he has asserted that the DBAs are of no use for deciding event; instead he insists for applying RPs.> > > On this, Sri Dhanabalan, it seems has initiated a debate> > > on this subject. Let us watch his further observations. .> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani > > > - > > > K. P. Naidu > > > @gro ups.com > > > Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:28 PM> > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr.Dhanabalan<> > > > > > It is surprising to find such a question from you having good knowledge of the subject of KP.> > > DBAS method is for predicting the timing of event. whether the event is promised or not is not dependent on DBAS. All this you may be knowing. Then why you have put such a question ? what exactly you expect from the members ?> > > > > > Thanks & Regds.> > > > > > Naidu KP> > > > > > > > > > > > K. P. Naidu,> > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> > > Nowroji Road,> > > Maharanipeta,> > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > > > > > --- On Mon, 20/4/09, ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...>> > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > @gro ups.com> > > Monday, 20 April, 2009, 6:10 PM> > > > > > > > > Dear Dhanabalan> > > > > > Correct prediction in KP can be given without DBA but the timing of the event predicted will require DBA.> > > > > > regards,> > > Ajoy> > > - > > > Dhanabalan R > > > kpsystem groups > > > Monday, April 20, 2009 8:39 AM> > > Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > > > > > > > Dear Members> > > Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA?> > > Dhanabalan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! > > >> > > > > > > > > > Cricket on your mind? 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Guest guest Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Dear Members, while answering Sri Dhanbalan's 10 charts I recd the requisition from Smt. Sujathadas IAS reg. her horoscope where Marriage DBA does not tally with the 4 fold Method. hence this reply. the file is uploaded in files division as Sujathadas IAS.pdf Dear Madam, The answer is as follows: Marriage was performed in Jupiter Dasa who is in 8th as l/o 2n4 in his own star, Sublord Moon in Rahu star who is 7th csl. Mercury is in 6th as l/o 8n10 in Sun's star who is lord of 9 in 5 is favourable for marriage. However the dates of Mercury is in border of one 1week upto 23.4.79 marriage is on 14.4.79 if a small shift in dasa balance would shift it to Kethu who is in 7th bhava in Mars star who is starlord of 7th cusp. Hence not much difference. Regards ovn murthy - sujata das Cc: ovnmurthy Monday, May 11, 2009 12:41 PM Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP Dear Mr Murthy Would you tell me how I got married in mer bhukti when it does not signify 2 7 11. My dob is 5-5-55, tob is 9-37 pm, as rectified by Dr Kar and Mr K Ganpathy on the basis of events. POB is N. Delhi (latitude 28-37) Regards Sujata --- On Sun, 10/5/09, OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy wrote: OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP Sunday, 10 May, 2009, 8:15 PM Dear Group Members, 5th chart 7female now discussed as 5th email. , " OVN MURTHY " <ovnmurthy wrote: > > Dear Group Members, > > 4th chart Quiz 5 wife's chart now discussed as 4th email. > > As the members are aware that Sri Dhanabalan ji has given 10 charts with birth details and marriage details wherein he claimed that the 4 fold DBAS have not connected to 2,7,11 as per the KP Rules, however marriages have taken place. In this connection he requested the members to offer their comments on this issue where KP rules have failed. NOW I AM ATTEMPTING THE FOURTH CHART OF QUIZ 5 WIFE'S CHART. > > The FOURTH chart was 5Quiz5Wife.pdf was loaded in the files section in separate folder viz. 10 Marriage DBA 4 Fold. In this file the second page indicates my findings how the marriage has taken place in the DBA Ve-Ju-Sa-Ve, who are significators of 2,7,11 as given in the 1st page with bold and underlined. The s/w used is Future Point. leogold of sri Arun Bansal of NewDelhi. > > > > Jupiter is l/o 1n10 in 8th Libra in Swathi- Rahu in 12th Sat rasi lord who is in 2nd and 11th lord unoccupied, 12 occupied by Rahu. Jupiter sub is Saturn who is in 2nd as lord of 11th, in Venus star a karaka for marriage. Venus DasaLord in Mer star and Sat sub strong significator for marriage. Bhukthi lord Jupiter as said above and being Retro he is weak at 1n10 ownership and the next house is strong as per Astro secrets i.e. 2n11 house in 8th. Anthara and Sookshama are Sat n Ven both are strong significators. Here Jup sublord speaks Saturn for giving Marriage. > > Further charts will be analyzed one after another and will be sent to the group. Plz go thru the files section whenin I have kept this pdf file viz. 5quiz5Wife.pdf in Directory 10 Marriage DBAS 4 Fold. I came to know some members who are not very conversant with systems are unable to go to the files section to download the pdf files. Hence I request the Moderator to do the needful. > > Regards > > OVN Murthy, M.Com.FCS, ICWAI, PGDPA. > Company Secretary > Nizam Sugards Limited, > Bashirbagh, Hyderabad 13. Ph. 040-23232212, res. 27405975 > Mob. 94417 78427 > www.saibhavishyavani.com ovnmurthy > , " OVN MURTHY " <ovnmurthy@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Group Members, > > > > 3rd chart Dhanabalan's Friend now discussed as 3rd email. > > > > As the members are aware that Sri Dhanabalan ji has given 10 charts with birth details and marriage details wherein he claimed that the 4 fold DBAS have not connected to 2,7,11 as per the KP Rules, however marriages have taken place. In this connection he requested the members to offer their comments on this issue where KP rules have failed. NOW I AM ATTEMPTING THE THIRD CHART OF HIS FRIEND. > > > > The THIRD chart was 4.Dhanabalan Friend.pdf was loaded in the files section in separate folder viz. 10 Marriage DBA 4 Fold. In this file the second page indicates my findings how the marriage has taken place in the DBA Su-Me-Me, who are significators of 2,7,11 as given in the 1st page with bold and underlined. The s/w used is Future Point. leogold of sri Arun Bansal of NewDelhi. > > > > 3rd chart 4Dhanabalan Friend.pdf > > > > > > 7th corulers Mo-Sa-Ra: Moon /Sat 7th significators. Rahu node in Sat sign who is lord 2 in Moon star 7th lord; Present DBA, Sun-Mer-Me-Mar; Sun in Rahu, Mer in Rahu whose 7th sublord. Nodes r always strong. Mars sookshma who is in Venus star karaka in 8th, Mars is lord of 11th . Hence there is no negative connection to 7th csl and DBAS. > > > > Further charts will be analyzed one after another and will be sent to the group. Plz go thru the files section whenin I have kept this pdf file viz.1Dhanabalan Daughter.pdf in Directory 10 Marriage DBAS 4 Fold > > > > Regards > > > > OVN Murthy, M.Com.FCS, ICWAI, PGDPA. > > Company Secretary > > Nizam Sugards Limited, > > Bashirbagh, Hyderabad 13. Ph. 040-23232212, res. 27405975 > > Mob. 94417 78427 > > www.saibhavishyavani.com ovnmurthy@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Members > > > No one has clarified my doubt so far. > > > How we are fixing DBA for marriage? > > > As per KP, the DBA is selected from 2,7,11 house significators. I have proved that about 40% of the cases, marriage is celebrated in the DBA which is not the significators of 2,7,11 houses. In support of my statement, I have already posted 12 charts about two months back. There was no comment from seniors about those charts till now. Please confirm first whether the system we are following to arrive the DBA from primary significators is correct. > > > Some may suggest to add 5th and 8th houses for marriage. > > > Some may tell that 8th house is for divorce. > > > In general, for any event, there must be one main house and two supporting houses. More than two supporting houses may lead to confusion. > > > Dhanabalan. > > > > > > --- On Thu, 4/30/09, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@> wrote: > > > > > > Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@> > > > Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > > > > Thursday, April 30, 2009, 7:56 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all members, > > > > > > I am a new member of your group. I too feel that we must consider DBA to work out the date of the happening. Without DBA the system may work only half which is ultimately of no use. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Vishram Deshpande > > > > > > --- On Wed, 29/4/09, Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> > > > Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > @gro ups.com > > > Wednesday, 29 April, 2009, 10:39 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Murthygaru, > > > > > > An excellent clarification. As you say it may work out correctly by using RPs for minor events. I don't know how far it will work out for major events without appling DBA. > > > My warmth appreciation for your research mindedness. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > OVN MURTHY > > > @gro ups.com > > > Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:25 PM > > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Konthala P Naidu/ Sri KSV Ramani ji, > > > > > > The following is the line given by Sri Dhanbalan ji, > > > > > > " Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA? " > > > > > > As said by Sri Ramani; Sri Dhanbalan was born in Rahu- lagna sublord in Sagi Asc. Rahu is in Venus star who is lord of 5n10 on 9th cusp orb and I hope that is why he puts very tough ideas where it requires analytical thinking and create no thoughts on this subject as said by Sri KSK ji to do research more on diferent concepts. > > > > > > It seems he might attended the astrology seminar conducted recently in Chennai. > > > > > > According to my mind in KP u will know the results of each birth chart by identifying the sublords and significators of various houses, then u will apply the same to the DBA to identify when it will take place ( in case more significtors then ur using the RPs to filter the significators) as said by Sri Naidu, Vizag. > > > > > > Now this new idea of Sri Dhanbalan is without going to DBA only by RPs who are the significators of the concerned Bhavas would give the result on the concerned bhava on the day Where the RPs are matching with bhava. This principle I am following since a long time. This is meant for small events but not for big events, which are very limited events in life time. such as marriage, birth of children, etc. > > > > > > e.g. I see the RPs of 1. DayLord 2. Moon sign lord 3. Moon Star Lord > > > at this juncture I verify whether these 3 RPs are connected to my 2nd house, 6 or 11, then I will see the other 2 RPs Ascendant signlord and Asc.. starlord whether it is operating in the normal working hours (not being early morning or after 9pm of the day) during that time I used to get my client or somebody visits and gives some money to me. This is one way of testing RP with petty events but not for big things where I have to see the DBA also invariably. This wonder predictions can work successfully with the help of RPS as said by Guruji. > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > OVN MURTHY HYDERABAD 94417 78427/ 23232212 > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " Ramani " <kadavasalramani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Naidu, > > > > > > > > Pl. don't underestimate Sri R.Dhanabalan for his query on > > > > DBA. He has raised this query with some specific purpose > > > > and reason. It is because, one gentleman posing himsel as a revolutionist has delivered lecture with many shortcut ideas, in which he has asserted that the DBAs are of no use for deciding event; instead he insists for applying RPs. > > > > On this, Sri Dhanabalan, it seems has initiated a debate > > > > on this subject. Let us watch his further observations. . > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani > > > > - > > > > K. P. Naidu > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:28 PM > > > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr.Dhanabalan< > > > > > > > > It is surprising to find such a question from you having good knowledge of the subject of KP. > > > > DBAS method is for predicting the timing of event. whether the event is promised or not is not dependent on DBAS. All this you may be knowing. Then why you have put such a question ? what exactly you expect from the members ? > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regds. > > > > > > > > Naidu KP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > K. P. Naidu, > > > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., > > > > Nowroji Road, > > > > Maharanipeta, > > > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > > > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 20/4/09, ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...> > > > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Monday, 20 April, 2009, 6:10 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dhanabalan > > > > > > > > Correct prediction in KP can be given without DBA but the timing of the event predicted will require DBA. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Ajoy > > > > - > > > > Dhanabalan R > > > > kpsystem groups > > > > Monday, April 20, 2009 8:39 AM > > > > Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members > > > > Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA? > > > > Dhanabalan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > > Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cricket on your mind? 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Guest guest Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Dear Group Members, 7th & 8th charts 2A Husband 2B Wife now discussed as 7th email. As the members are aware that Sri Dhanabalan ji has given 10 charts with birth details and marriage details wherein he claimed that the 4 fold DBAS have not connected to 2,7,11 as per the KP Rules, however marriages have taken place. In this connection he requested the members to offer their comments on this issue where KP rules have failed. NOW I AM ATTEMPTING THE SEVENTH & EIGHTS CHARTS OF 2A HUSBAND AND 2B WIFE BOTH ARE BORN IN DELHI. The SEVENTH AND EIGHTH charts were 2A Husband.pdf n 2B Wife.pdf were loaded in the files section in separate folder viz. 10 Marriage DBA 4 Fold. In this file the second page indicates my findings how the marriage has taken place in the DBA Jup-Sat-Jup-Sat (for husband) & Rahu-Mer-Rah-Rah (for wife) who are significators of 2,7,11 as given in the 1st page with bold and underlined. The s/w used is Future Point. Leogold of Sri Arun Bansal of NewDelhi. 2A Husband: Jupiter did not find a place in four fold table : Jupiter in 5 as l/o 1n4 in Sun's star who is lord of 9 in 4th. Now look to the sublord (speaks) Mercury as l/o 7n10 (7 unoccupied) is in his own star Revathi has given marriage. Hence here sublord over rules the 4 fold significator which is a well known fact since a long time by many research astrologers in this line. However reg. 2,7,11 significators one more point is to be remembered that for marriage the spouse has to be taken without 2 persons male n female no marriage would take place. For spouse 2,7,11 is other wise knows as (8,1,5 for the native who wants marriage) hence we have to look into the significators of 2,7,11 n also see whether 8,5, is operating then we should not negate it but predict ok. 2B Wife: Rahu did not find a place in four fold table: Rahu a node in Mars sign, in Venus star, Rahu in 3 (Mars sg.lord l/o 3n10 in 8th) Venus as l/o 5n9 in 4with conj. Moon 7th lord. 7th CSL Kethu in Rahu star Kethu sub. Kethu is in Venus and agent. Rahu Venus are connected to Kethu by star and Signlord. Mercury as l/o 6 (cuspal interception) in 2nd conj. Sat in Sat star strongly significator of 2nd. Here Rahu being node it is very difficult to predict becaz it covers many areas where research is required on Nodes. Further charts 9. Sri LB Sastry and 10 Sri VP Singh is not taken up for discussion as sufficient charts were discussed already wherein we find not conventional 2,7,11 significations but also 8n5 which are 2n11 for spouse is also playing a vital role in giving the marriage in DBA of 4 fold. This is identified after a long observation of many practical charts. Plz go thru the files section whenin I have kept this pdf files viz. 2A Husband.pdf and 2B Wife both belongs to Delhi in Directory 10 Marriage DBAS 4 Fold. I came to know some members who are not very conversant with systems are unable to go to the files section to download the pdf files. Hence I request the Moderator to do the needful. Regards OVN Murthy, M.Com.FCS, ICWAI, PGDPA. Company Secretary Nizam Sugards Limited, Bashirbagh, Hyderabad 13. Ph. 040-23232212, res. 27405975 Mob. 94417 78427 www.saibhavishyavani.com ovnmurthy PS: I found while I am writing answers for Sri Dhanbalan's 4 fold significators topic connected to Marriage, two of our group members have contacted me (viz. Smt. Sujatadas IAS, Prl. Secretary to Govt. of Haryana, and Sri Nitin from Mumbai ) to give justifications for the tmarriages which have taken place in the respective DBAS how it has taken place when one planet is not at all a significator of either of 2/7/11 were also taken up and answered in this Group and keeping pdf files in the same directory for reference on the 2nd page my comments for the marriage. , " OVN MURTHY " <ovnmurthy wrote: > > Dear Members, > > while answering Sri Dhanbalan's 10 charts I recd the requisition from Smt. Sujathadas IAS reg. her horoscope where Marriage DBA does not tally with the 4 fold Method. hence this reply. the file is uploaded in files division as Sujathadas IAS.pdf > > > Dear Madam, > The answer is as follows: > Marriage was performed in Jupiter Dasa who is in 8th as l/o 2n4 in his own star, Sublord Moon in Rahu star who is 7th csl. Mercury is in 6th as l/o 8n10 in Sun's star who is lord of 9 in 5 is favourable for marriage. However the dates of Mercury is in border of one 1week upto 23.4.79 marriage is on 14.4.79 if a small shift in dasa balance would shift it to Kethu who is in 7th bhava in Mars star who is starlord of 7th cusp. Hence not much difference. > > Regards > > ovn murthy > > - > sujata das > > Cc: ovnmurthy > Monday, May 11, 2009 12:41 PM > Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > Dear Mr Murthy > Would you tell me how I got married in mer bhukti when it does not signify 2 7 11. > My dob is 5-5-55, tob is 9-37 pm, as rectified by Dr Kar and Mr K Ganpathy on the basis of events. POB is N. Delhi (latitude 28-37) > Regards > Sujata > > --- On Sun, 10/5/09, OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy wrote: > > > OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > Sunday, 10 May, 2009, 8:15 PM > > > > > > Dear Group Members, > > 5th chart 7female now discussed as 5th email. , " OVN MURTHY " <ovnmurthy@> wrote: > > > > Dear Group Members, > > > > 4th chart Quiz 5 wife's chart now discussed as 4th email. > > > > As the members are aware that Sri Dhanabalan ji has given 10 charts with birth details and marriage details wherein he claimed that the 4 fold DBAS have not connected to 2,7,11 as per the KP Rules, however marriages have taken place. In this connection he requested the members to offer their comments on this issue where KP rules have failed. NOW I AM ATTEMPTING THE FOURTH CHART OF QUIZ 5 WIFE'S CHART. > > > > The FOURTH chart was 5Quiz5Wife.pdf was loaded in the files section in separate folder viz. 10 Marriage DBA 4 Fold. In this file the second page indicates my findings how the marriage has taken place in the DBA Ve-Ju-Sa-Ve, who are significators of 2,7,11 as given in the 1st page with bold and underlined. The s/w used is Future Point. leogold of sri Arun Bansal of NewDelhi. > > > > > > > > Jupiter is l/o 1n10 in 8th Libra in Swathi- Rahu in 12th Sat rasi lord who is in 2nd and 11th lord unoccupied, 12 occupied by Rahu. Jupiter sub is Saturn who is in 2nd as lord of 11th, in Venus star a karaka for marriage. Venus DasaLord in Mer star and Sat sub strong significator for marriage. Bhukthi lord Jupiter as said above and being Retro he is weak at 1n10 ownership and the next house is strong as per Astro secrets i.e. 2n11 house in 8th. Anthara and Sookshama are Sat n Ven both are strong significators. Here Jup sublord speaks Saturn for giving Marriage. > > > > Further charts will be analyzed one after another and will be sent to the group. Plz go thru the files section whenin I have kept this pdf file viz. 5quiz5Wife.pdf in Directory 10 Marriage DBAS 4 Fold. I came to know some members who are not very conversant with systems are unable to go to the files section to download the pdf files. Hence I request the Moderator to do the needful. > > > > Regards > > > > OVN Murthy, M.Com.FCS, ICWAI, PGDPA. > > Company Secretary > > Nizam Sugards Limited, > > Bashirbagh, Hyderabad 13. Ph. 040-23232212, res. 27405975 > > Mob. 94417 78427 > > www.saibhavishyavani.com ovnmurthy@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " OVN MURTHY " <ovnmurthy@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Group Members, > > > > > > 3rd chart Dhanabalan's Friend now discussed as 3rd email. > > > > > > As the members are aware that Sri Dhanabalan ji has given 10 charts with birth details and marriage details wherein he claimed that the 4 fold DBAS have not connected to 2,7,11 as per the KP Rules, however marriages have taken place. In this connection he requested the members to offer their comments on this issue where KP rules have failed. NOW I AM ATTEMPTING THE THIRD CHART OF HIS FRIEND. > > > > > > The THIRD chart was 4.Dhanabalan Friend.pdf was loaded in the files section in separate folder viz. 10 Marriage DBA 4 Fold. In this file the second page indicates my findings how the marriage has taken place in the DBA Su-Me-Me, who are significators of 2,7,11 as given in the 1st page with bold and underlined. The s/w used is Future Point. leogold of sri Arun Bansal of NewDelhi. > > > > > > 3rd chart 4Dhanabalan Friend.pdf > > > > > > > > > 7th corulers Mo-Sa-Ra: Moon /Sat 7th significators. Rahu node in Sat sign who is lord 2 in Moon star 7th lord; Present DBA, Sun-Mer-Me-Mar; Sun in Rahu, Mer in Rahu whose 7th sublord. Nodes r always strong. Mars sookshma who is in Venus star karaka in 8th, Mars is lord of 11th . Hence there is no negative connection to 7th csl and DBAS. > > > > > > Further charts will be analyzed one after another and will be sent to the group. Plz go thru the files section whenin I have kept this pdf file viz.1Dhanabalan Daughter.pdf in Directory 10 Marriage DBAS 4 Fold > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > OVN Murthy, M.Com.FCS, ICWAI, PGDPA. > > > Company Secretary > > > Nizam Sugards Limited, > > > Bashirbagh, Hyderabad 13. Ph. 040-23232212, res. 27405975 > > > Mob. 94417 78427 > > > www.saibhavishyavani.com ovnmurthy@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Members > > > > No one has clarified my doubt so far. > > > > How we are fixing DBA for marriage? > > > > As per KP, the DBA is selected from 2,7,11 house significators. I have proved that about 40% of the cases, marriage is celebrated in the DBA which is not the significators of 2,7,11 houses. In support of my statement, I have already posted 12 charts about two months back. There was no comment from seniors about those charts till now. Please confirm first whether the system we are following to arrive the DBA from primary significators is correct. > > > > Some may suggest to add 5th and 8th houses for marriage. > > > > Some may tell that 8th house is for divorce. > > > > In general, for any event, there must be one main house and two supporting houses. More than two supporting houses may lead to confusion. > > > > Dhanabalan. > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 4/30/09, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@> > > > > Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > > > > > > Thursday, April 30, 2009, 7:56 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all members, > > > > > > > > I am a new member of your group. I too feel that we must consider DBA to work out the date of the happening. Without DBA the system may work only half which is ultimately of no use. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Vishram Deshpande > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 29/4/09, Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> > > > > Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Wednesday, 29 April, 2009, 10:39 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Murthygaru, > > > > > > > > An excellent clarification. As you say it may work out correctly by using RPs for minor events. I don't know how far it will work out for major events without appling DBA. > > > > My warmth appreciation for your research mindedness. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > OVN MURTHY > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:25 PM > > > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Konthala P Naidu/ Sri KSV Ramani ji, > > > > > > > > The following is the line given by Sri Dhanbalan ji, > > > > > > > > " Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA? " > > > > > > > > As said by Sri Ramani; Sri Dhanbalan was born in Rahu- lagna sublord in Sagi Asc. Rahu is in Venus star who is lord of 5n10 on 9th cusp orb and I hope that is why he puts very tough ideas where it requires analytical thinking and create no thoughts on this subject as said by Sri KSK ji to do research more on diferent concepts. > > > > > > > > It seems he might attended the astrology seminar conducted recently in Chennai. > > > > > > > > According to my mind in KP u will know the results of each birth chart by identifying the sublords and significators of various houses, then u will apply the same to the DBA to identify when it will take place ( in case more significtors then ur using the RPs to filter the significators) as said by Sri Naidu, Vizag. > > > > > > > > Now this new idea of Sri Dhanbalan is without going to DBA only by RPs who are the significators of the concerned Bhavas would give the result on the concerned bhava on the day Where the RPs are matching with bhava. This principle I am following since a long time. This is meant for small events but not for big events, which are very limited events in life time. such as marriage, birth of children, etc. > > > > > > > > e.g. I see the RPs of 1. DayLord 2. Moon sign lord 3. Moon Star Lord > > > > at this juncture I verify whether these 3 RPs are connected to my 2nd house, 6 or 11, then I will see the other 2 RPs Ascendant signlord and Asc.. starlord whether it is operating in the normal working hours (not being early morning or after 9pm of the day) during that time I used to get my client or somebody visits and gives some money to me. This is one way of testing RP with petty events but not for big things where I have to see the DBA also invariably. This wonder predictions can work successfully with the help of RPS as said by Guruji. > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > > > OVN MURTHY HYDERABAD 94417 78427/ 23232212 > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " Ramani " <kadavasalramani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Naidu, > > > > > > > > > > Pl. don't underestimate Sri R.Dhanabalan for his query on > > > > > DBA. He has raised this query with some specific purpose > > > > > and reason. It is because, one gentleman posing himsel as a revolutionist has delivered lecture with many shortcut ideas, in which he has asserted that the DBAs are of no use for deciding event; instead he insists for applying RPs. > > > > > On this, Sri Dhanabalan, it seems has initiated a debate > > > > > on this subject. Let us watch his further observations. . > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani > > > > > - > > > > > K. P. Naidu > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:28 PM > > > > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr.Dhanabalan< > > > > > > > > > > It is surprising to find such a question from you having good knowledge of the subject of KP. > > > > > DBAS method is for predicting the timing of event. whether the event is promised or not is not dependent on DBAS. All this you may be knowing. Then why you have put such a question ? what exactly you expect from the members ? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regds. > > > > > > > > > > Naidu KP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > K. P. Naidu, > > > > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., > > > > > Nowroji Road, > > > > > Maharanipeta, > > > > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > > > > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 20/4/09, ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...> > > > > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Monday, 20 April, 2009, 6:10 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dhanabalan > > > > > > > > > > Correct prediction in KP can be given without DBA but the timing of the event predicted will require DBA. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Ajoy > > > > > - > > > > > Dhanabalan R > > > > > kpsystem groups > > > > > Monday, April 20, 2009 8:39 AM > > > > > Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members > > > > > Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA? > > > > > Dhanabalan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cricket on your mind? 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Guest guest Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Dear Murthyji, Thanks a Million for the clarification through cases posted by Dhanabalanji. Although in the given charts doubts are cleared I would like to know in my chart why marriage took place in Merc/Sat Period. My Birth Details : Name: Nitin DOB: 13/03/1975 TOB: 23.25 POB: Bhusawal/Bhusaval About Me: I have studied KP & Vedic astrology from my guru Shri. Dharmarajan from Coimbatore(Unfortunately he passed away in 2002) Studying astrology since 15 years. I found KP astrology more accurate in Horary than Natal Chart. Best Regards, Nitin Answer by Sri OVN Murthy Hyd. The file Nitin.pdf was already uploaded in the files section together with my comments for the event on 1st n 2nd pages. Mer Sat Marriage: Mer is 7th csl l/o 8n11 in 3 in the star Ma-Ve – Mars 1n6 in 3, Ve 7n12 in 5 which is favourable sublord. Sat as l/o 3n4 in 8 in Ra-Mo – Rahu in 1 (mars sg lord) in Sat star who is in 8th. Sublord Moon as l/o 9th in 4 in Sat star 8th. From many charts at the time of marriage we are also finding a new house involvement (5/8) apart from 2,7,11 significators. I found in my practical cases where during 6n12 significators involvement would bring, handicapped, divorcees, widows, etc. with some flaw in the spouse, ur compromising on that issue when those significators r inovled in giving marriage to the native. WITH THIS I AM CLOSING THIS TOPIC OF SRI DHANBALAN ON 4 FOLD DBA DOES NOT INDICATE THE SIGNIFICATION OF 2,7,11 FOR MARRIAGE. IN THIS CONNECTION IT IS SUBMITTED THAT THE 4 FOLD SIGNIFICATORS IS FIRST THEORY AT THE TIME OF KP FOUNDATION BY STALWARTS. SUBSEQUENTLY AFTER LOT OF RESEARCH AND OBSERVATIONS IN PRACTICAL CASES THESE RULES MODIFIED TO SOME EXTENT WHERE SIGNIFICATORS OF 5 AND 8, SECOND MARRIAGE 9TH HOUSE ALSO, IN BAD MATCHES (WIDOWS, DIVORCEES, HANDICAPPED) 6N12 ARE ALSO OPERATING. THE CORULERS OF 7TH HOUSE WHEREIN SIGN LORD, STAR LORD, SUB LORD IS ALSO TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT FOR THIS DETERMINATION. WHEN NODE IS INVOLVED STILL WE HAVE TO GO DEEP TO SEE THE ACTUAL CONNECTIONS THE NODE IS HAVING IN GIVING THE MARRIAGE. THIS REQUIRES LOT OF RESEARCH WHICH WAS ALREADY DONE BY MANY SENIORS BUT IT WAS NOT PUBLISHED HENCE MANY PEOPLE ARE NOT AWARE OF THIS. ONLY NOW IT IS AVAILABLE BECAZ OF THIS /FORUMS. THANKS FOR THE FORUM FOR BRINGING ALL THE NEW AREAS INTO FOR DISCUSSION. Regards OVN Murthy, M.Com.FCS, ICWAI, PGDPA. Company Secretary Nizam Sugards Limited, Bashirbagh, Hyderabad 13. Ph. 040-23232212, res. 27405975 Mob. 94417 78427 www.saibhavishyavani.com ovnmurthy , " OVN MURTHY " <ovnmurthy wrote: > > Dear Members, > > while answering Sri Dhanbalan's 10 charts I recd the requisition from Smt. Sujathadas IAS reg. her horoscope where Marriage DBA does not tally with the 4 fold Method. hence this reply. the file is uploaded in files division as Sujathadas IAS.pdf > > > Dear Madam, > The answer is as follows: > Marriage was performed in Jupiter Dasa who is in 8th as l/o 2n4 in his own star, Sublord Moon in Rahu star who is 7th csl. Mercury is in 6th as l/o 8n10 in Sun's star who is lord of 9 in 5 is favourable for marriage. However the dates of Mercury is in border of one 1week upto 23.4.79 marriage is on 14.4.79 if a small shift in dasa balance would shift it to Kethu who is in 7th bhava in Mars star who is starlord of 7th cusp. Hence not much difference. > > Regards > > ovn murthy > > - > sujata das > > Cc: ovnmurthy > Monday, May 11, 2009 12:41 PM > Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > Dear Mr Murthy > Would you tell me how I got married in mer bhukti when it does not signify 2 7 11. > My dob is 5-5-55, tob is 9-37 pm, as rectified by Dr Kar and Mr K Ganpathy on the basis of events. POB is N. Delhi (latitude 28-37) > Regards > Sujata > > --- On Sun, 10/5/09, OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy wrote: > > > OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > Sunday, 10 May, 2009, 8:15 PM > > > > > > Dear Group Members, > > 5th chart 7female now discussed as 5th email. , " OVN MURTHY " <ovnmurthy@> wrote: > > > > Dear Group Members, > > > > 4th chart Quiz 5 wife's chart now discussed as 4th email. > > > > As the members are aware that Sri Dhanabalan ji has given 10 charts with birth details and marriage details wherein he claimed that the 4 fold DBAS have not connected to 2,7,11 as per the KP Rules, however marriages have taken place. In this connection he requested the members to offer their comments on this issue where KP rules have failed. NOW I AM ATTEMPTING THE FOURTH CHART OF QUIZ 5 WIFE'S CHART. > > > > The FOURTH chart was 5Quiz5Wife.pdf was loaded in the files section in separate folder viz. 10 Marriage DBA 4 Fold. In this file the second page indicates my findings how the marriage has taken place in the DBA Ve-Ju-Sa-Ve, who are significators of 2,7,11 as given in the 1st page with bold and underlined. The s/w used is Future Point. leogold of sri Arun Bansal of NewDelhi. > > > > > > > > Jupiter is l/o 1n10 in 8th Libra in Swathi- Rahu in 12th Sat rasi lord who is in 2nd and 11th lord unoccupied, 12 occupied by Rahu. Jupiter sub is Saturn who is in 2nd as lord of 11th, in Venus star a karaka for marriage. Venus DasaLord in Mer star and Sat sub strong significator for marriage. Bhukthi lord Jupiter as said above and being Retro he is weak at 1n10 ownership and the next house is strong as per Astro secrets i.e. 2n11 house in 8th. Anthara and Sookshama are Sat n Ven both are strong significators. Here Jup sublord speaks Saturn for giving Marriage. > > > > Further charts will be analyzed one after another and will be sent to the group. Plz go thru the files section whenin I have kept this pdf file viz. 5quiz5Wife.pdf in Directory 10 Marriage DBAS 4 Fold. I came to know some members who are not very conversant with systems are unable to go to the files section to download the pdf files. Hence I request the Moderator to do the needful. > > > > Regards > > > > OVN Murthy, M.Com.FCS, ICWAI, PGDPA. > > Company Secretary > > Nizam Sugards Limited, > > Bashirbagh, Hyderabad 13. Ph. 040-23232212, res. 27405975 > > Mob. 94417 78427 > > www.saibhavishyavani.com ovnmurthy@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " OVN MURTHY " <ovnmurthy@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Group Members, > > > > > > 3rd chart Dhanabalan's Friend now discussed as 3rd email. > > > > > > As the members are aware that Sri Dhanabalan ji has given 10 charts with birth details and marriage details wherein he claimed that the 4 fold DBAS have not connected to 2,7,11 as per the KP Rules, however marriages have taken place. In this connection he requested the members to offer their comments on this issue where KP rules have failed. NOW I AM ATTEMPTING THE THIRD CHART OF HIS FRIEND. > > > > > > The THIRD chart was 4.Dhanabalan Friend.pdf was loaded in the files section in separate folder viz. 10 Marriage DBA 4 Fold. In this file the second page indicates my findings how the marriage has taken place in the DBA Su-Me-Me, who are significators of 2,7,11 as given in the 1st page with bold and underlined. The s/w used is Future Point. leogold of sri Arun Bansal of NewDelhi. > > > > > > 3rd chart 4Dhanabalan Friend.pdf > > > > > > > > > 7th corulers Mo-Sa-Ra: Moon /Sat 7th significators. Rahu node in Sat sign who is lord 2 in Moon star 7th lord; Present DBA, Sun-Mer-Me-Mar; Sun in Rahu, Mer in Rahu whose 7th sublord. Nodes r always strong. Mars sookshma who is in Venus star karaka in 8th, Mars is lord of 11th . Hence there is no negative connection to 7th csl and DBAS. > > > > > > Further charts will be analyzed one after another and will be sent to the group. Plz go thru the files section whenin I have kept this pdf file viz.1Dhanabalan Daughter.pdf in Directory 10 Marriage DBAS 4 Fold > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > OVN Murthy, M.Com.FCS, ICWAI, PGDPA. > > > Company Secretary > > > Nizam Sugards Limited, > > > Bashirbagh, Hyderabad 13. Ph. 040-23232212, res. 27405975 > > > Mob. 94417 78427 > > > www.saibhavishyavani.com ovnmurthy@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Members > > > > No one has clarified my doubt so far. > > > > How we are fixing DBA for marriage? > > > > As per KP, the DBA is selected from 2,7,11 house significators. I have proved that about 40% of the cases, marriage is celebrated in the DBA which is not the significators of 2,7,11 houses. In support of my statement, I have already posted 12 charts about two months back. There was no comment from seniors about those charts till now. Please confirm first whether the system we are following to arrive the DBA from primary significators is correct. > > > > Some may suggest to add 5th and 8th houses for marriage. > > > > Some may tell that 8th house is for divorce. > > > > In general, for any event, there must be one main house and two supporting houses. More than two supporting houses may lead to confusion. > > > > Dhanabalan. > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 4/30/09, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@> > > > > Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > > > > > > Thursday, April 30, 2009, 7:56 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all members, > > > > > > > > I am a new member of your group. I too feel that we must consider DBA to work out the date of the happening. Without DBA the system may work only half which is ultimately of no use. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Vishram Deshpande > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 29/4/09, Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> > > > > Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Wednesday, 29 April, 2009, 10:39 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Murthygaru, > > > > > > > > An excellent clarification. As you say it may work out correctly by using RPs for minor events. I don't know how far it will work out for major events without appling DBA. > > > > My warmth appreciation for your research mindedness. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > OVN MURTHY > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:25 PM > > > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Konthala P Naidu/ Sri KSV Ramani ji, > > > > > > > > The following is the line given by Sri Dhanbalan ji, > > > > > > > > " Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA? " > > > > > > > > As said by Sri Ramani; Sri Dhanbalan was born in Rahu- lagna sublord in Sagi Asc. Rahu is in Venus star who is lord of 5n10 on 9th cusp orb and I hope that is why he puts very tough ideas where it requires analytical thinking and create no thoughts on this subject as said by Sri KSK ji to do research more on diferent concepts. > > > > > > > > It seems he might attended the astrology seminar conducted recently in Chennai. > > > > > > > > According to my mind in KP u will know the results of each birth chart by identifying the sublords and significators of various houses, then u will apply the same to the DBA to identify when it will take place ( in case more significtors then ur using the RPs to filter the significators) as said by Sri Naidu, Vizag. > > > > > > > > Now this new idea of Sri Dhanbalan is without going to DBA only by RPs who are the significators of the concerned Bhavas would give the result on the concerned bhava on the day Where the RPs are matching with bhava. This principle I am following since a long time. This is meant for small events but not for big events, which are very limited events in life time. such as marriage, birth of children, etc. > > > > > > > > e.g. I see the RPs of 1. DayLord 2. Moon sign lord 3. Moon Star Lord > > > > at this juncture I verify whether these 3 RPs are connected to my 2nd house, 6 or 11, then I will see the other 2 RPs Ascendant signlord and Asc.. starlord whether it is operating in the normal working hours (not being early morning or after 9pm of the day) during that time I used to get my client or somebody visits and gives some money to me. This is one way of testing RP with petty events but not for big things where I have to see the DBA also invariably. This wonder predictions can work successfully with the help of RPS as said by Guruji. > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > > > OVN MURTHY HYDERABAD 94417 78427/ 23232212 > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " Ramani " <kadavasalramani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Naidu, > > > > > > > > > > Pl. don't underestimate Sri R.Dhanabalan for his query on > > > > > DBA. He has raised this query with some specific purpose > > > > > and reason. It is because, one gentleman posing himsel as a revolutionist has delivered lecture with many shortcut ideas, in which he has asserted that the DBAs are of no use for deciding event; instead he insists for applying RPs. > > > > > On this, Sri Dhanabalan, it seems has initiated a debate > > > > > on this subject. Let us watch his further observations. . > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani > > > > > - > > > > > K. P. Naidu > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:28 PM > > > > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr.Dhanabalan< > > > > > > > > > > It is surprising to find such a question from you having good knowledge of the subject of KP. > > > > > DBAS method is for predicting the timing of event. whether the event is promised or not is not dependent on DBAS. All this you may be knowing. Then why you have put such a question ? what exactly you expect from the members ? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regds. > > > > > > > > > > Naidu KP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > K. P. Naidu, > > > > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., > > > > > Nowroji Road, > > > > > Maharanipeta, > > > > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > > > > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 20/4/09, ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...> > > > > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Monday, 20 April, 2009, 6:10 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dhanabalan > > > > > > > > > > Correct prediction in KP can be given without DBA but the timing of the event predicted will require DBA. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Ajoy > > > > > - > > > > > Dhanabalan R > > > > > kpsystem groups > > > > > Monday, April 20, 2009 8:39 AM > > > > > Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members > > > > > Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA? > > > > > Dhanabalan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cricket on your mind? 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Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Respected Murthy ji, I am somehow in agreement with Sh Dhanbalan ji that 2,7,11 does not relate with marriage in many cases. In my case (DOB 9-Aug-1960, 2:11 AM, Rai Bareli- 26N14, 81E16), the marriage took place in SAT-VEN_JUP period, the Venus has no connection whatsoever with 2,7,11 in my chart. In fact it will be difficult to tell correctly the marriage date within this period, if some one can attempt it. Let us organise some real research work by collecting say 50 charts and do analysis to find out the common logic in predicting correctly the DBA relating to such major event of the life. regards Amitabh--- On Tue, 5/12/09, OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy wrote: OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP Received: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 6:58 PM Dear Murthyji,Thanks a Million for the clarification through cases posted by Dhanabalanji. Although in the given charts doubts are cleared I would like to know in my chart why marriage took place in Merc/Sat Period.My Birth Details : Name: NitinDOB: 13/03/1975 TOB: 23.25 POB: Bhusawal/BhusavalAbout Me: I have studied KP & Vedic astrology from my guru Shri. Dharmarajan from Coimbatore(Unfortun ately he passed away in 2002)Studying astrology since 15 years. I found KP astrology more accurate in Horary than Natal Chart. Best Regards, NitinAnswer by Sri OVN Murthy Hyd. The file Nitin.pdf was already uploaded in the files section together with my comments for the event on 1st n 2nd pages. Mer Sat Marriage: Mer is 7th csl l/o 8n11 in 3 in the star Ma-Ve – Mars 1n6 in 3, Ve 7n12 in 5 which is favourable sublord. Sat as l/o 3n4 in 8 in Ra-Mo – Rahu in 1 (mars sg lord) in Sat star who is in 8th. Sublord Moon as l/o 9th in 4 in Sat star 8th. From many charts at the time of marriage we are also finding a new house involvement (5/8) apart from 2,7,11 significators. I found in my practical cases where during 6n12 significators involvement would bring, handicapped, divorcees, widows, etc. with some flaw in the spouse, ur compromising on that issue when those significators r inovled in giving marriage to the native.WITH THIS I AM CLOSING THIS TOPIC OF SRI DHANBALAN ON 4 FOLD DBA DOES NOT INDICATE THE SIGNIFICATION OF 2,7,11 FOR MARRIAGE. IN THIS CONNECTION IT IS SUBMITTED THAT THE 4 FOLD SIGNIFICATORS IS FIRST THEORY AT THE TIME OF KP FOUNDATION BY STALWARTS. SUBSEQUENTLY AFTER LOT OF RESEARCH AND OBSERVATIONS IN PRACTICAL CASES THESE RULES MODIFIED TO SOME EXTENT WHERE SIGNIFICATORS OF 5 AND 8, SECOND MARRIAGE 9TH HOUSE ALSO, IN BAD MATCHES (WIDOWS, DIVORCEES, HANDICAPPED) 6N12 ARE ALSO OPERATING. THE CORULERS OF 7TH HOUSE WHEREIN SIGN LORD, STAR LORD, SUB LORD IS ALSO TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT FOR THIS DETERMINATION. WHEN NODE IS INVOLVED STILL WE HAVE TO GO DEEP TO SEE THE ACTUAL CONNECTIONS THE NODE IS HAVING IN GIVING THE MARRIAGE. THIS REQUIRES LOT OF RESEARCH WHICH WAS ALREADY DONE BY MANY SENIORS BUT IT WAS NOT PUBLISHED HENCE MANY PEOPLE ARE NOT AWARE OF THIS. ONLY NOW IT IS AVAILABLE BECAZ OF THIS /FORUMS. THANKS FOR THE FORUM FOR BRINGING ALL THE NEW AREAS INTO FOR DISCUSSION.RegardsOVN Murthy, M.Com.FCS, ICWAI, PGDPA.Company SecretaryNizam Sugards Limited,Bashirbagh, Hyderabad 13. Ph. 040-23232212, res. 27405975 Mob. 94417 78427www.saibhavishyavan i.com ovnmurthy (AT) gmail (DOT) com@gro ups.com, "OVN MURTHY" <ovnmurthy@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Members,> > while answering Sri Dhanbalan's 10 charts I recd the requisition from Smt. Sujathadas IAS reg. her horoscope where Marriage DBA does not tally with the 4 fold Method. hence this reply. the file is uploaded in files division as Sujathadas IAS.pdf> > > Dear Madam,> The answer is as follows:> Marriage was performed in Jupiter Dasa who is in 8th as l/o 2n4 in his own star, Sublord Moon in Rahu star who is 7th csl. Mercury is in 6th as l/o 8n10 in Sun's star who is lord of 9 in 5 is favourable for marriage. However the dates of Mercury is in border of one 1week upto 23.4.79 marriage is on 14.4.79 if a small shift in dasa balance would shift it to Kethu who is in 7th bhava in Mars star who is starlord of 7th cusp. Hence not much difference.> > Regards> > ovn murthy> > - > sujata das > @gro ups.com > Cc: ovnmurthy@.. . > Monday, May 11, 2009 12:41 PM> Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > Dear Mr Murthy> Would you tell me how I got married in mer bhukti when it does not signify 2 7 11.> My dob is 5-5-55, tob is 9-37 pm, as rectified by Dr Kar and Mr K Ganpathy on the basis of events. POB is N. Delhi (latitude 28-37)> Regards> Sujata> > --- On Sun, 10/5/09, OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy@. ..> wrote:> > > OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy@. ..>> Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> @gro ups.com> Sunday, 10 May, 2009, 8:15 PM> > > > > > Dear Group Members,> > 5th chart 7female now discussed as 5th email.> > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "OVN MURTHY" <ovnmurthy@> wrote:> >> > Dear Group Members,> > > > 4th chart Quiz 5 wife's chart now discussed as 4th email.> > > > As the members are aware that Sri Dhanabalan ji has given 10 charts with birth details and marriage details wherein he claimed that the 4 fold DBAS have not connected to 2,7,11 as per the KP Rules, however marriages have taken place. In this connection he requested the members to offer their comments on this issue where KP rules have failed. NOW I AM ATTEMPTING THE FOURTH CHART OF QUIZ 5 WIFE'S CHART. > > > > The FOURTH chart was 5Quiz5Wife.pdf was loaded in the files section in separate folder viz. 10 Marriage DBA 4 Fold. In this file the second page indicates my findings how the marriage has taken place in the DBA Ve-Ju-Sa-Ve, who are significators of 2,7,11 as given in the 1st page with bold and underlined. The s/w used is Future Point. leogold of sri Arun Bansal of NewDelhi.> > > > > > > > Jupiter is l/o 1n10 in 8th Libra in Swathi- Rahu in 12th Sat rasi lord who is in 2nd and 11th lord unoccupied, 12 occupied by Rahu. Jupiter sub is Saturn who is in 2nd as lord of 11th, in Venus star a karaka for marriage. Venus DasaLord in Mer star and Sat sub strong significator for marriage. Bhukthi lord Jupiter as said above and being Retro he is weak at 1n10 ownership and the next house is strong as per Astro secrets i.e. 2n11 house in 8th. Anthara and Sookshama are Sat n Ven both are strong significators. Here Jup sublord speaks Saturn for giving Marriage.> > > > Further charts will be analyzed one after another and will be sent to the group. Plz go thru the files section whenin I have kept this pdf file viz. 5quiz5Wife.pdf in Directory 10 Marriage DBAS 4 Fold. I came to know some members who are not very conversant with systems are unable to go to the files section to download the pdf files. Hence I request the Moderator to do the needful.> > > > Regards> > > > OVN Murthy, M.Com.FCS, ICWAI, PGDPA.> > Company Secretary> > Nizam Sugards Limited,> > Bashirbagh, Hyderabad 13. Ph. 040-23232212, res. 27405975 > > Mob. 94417 78427> > www.saibhavishyavan i.com ovnmurthy@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "OVN MURTHY" <ovnmurthy@> wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear Group Members,> > > > > > 3rd chart Dhanabalan's Friend now discussed as 3rd email.> > > > > > As the members are aware that Sri Dhanabalan ji has given 10 charts with birth details and marriage details wherein he claimed that the 4 fold DBAS have not connected to 2,7,11 as per the KP Rules, however marriages have taken place. In this connection he requested the members to offer their comments on this issue where KP rules have failed. NOW I AM ATTEMPTING THE THIRD CHART OF HIS FRIEND. > > > > > > The THIRD chart was 4.Dhanabalan Friend.pdf was loaded in the files section in separate folder viz. 10 Marriage DBA 4 Fold. In this file the second page indicates my findings how the marriage has taken place in the DBA Su-Me-Me, who are significators of 2,7,11 as given in the 1st page with bold and underlined. The s/w used is Future Point. leogold of sri Arun Bansal of NewDelhi.> > > > > > 3rd chart 4Dhanabalan Friend.pdf> > > > > > > > > 7th corulers Mo-Sa-Ra: Moon /Sat 7th significators. Rahu node in Sat sign who is lord 2 in Moon star 7th lord; Present DBA, Sun-Mer-Me-Mar; Sun in Rahu, Mer in Rahu whose 7th sublord. Nodes r always strong. Mars sookshma who is in Venus star karaka in 8th, Mars is lord of 11th . Hence there is no negative connection to 7th csl and DBAS. > > > > > > Further charts will be analyzed one after another and will be sent to the group. Plz go thru the files section whenin I have kept this pdf file viz.1Dhanabalan Daughter.pdf in Directory 10 Marriage DBAS 4 Fold> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > OVN Murthy, M.Com.FCS, ICWAI, PGDPA.> > > Company Secretary> > > Nizam Sugards Limited,> > > Bashirbagh, Hyderabad 13. Ph. 040-23232212, res. 27405975 > > > Mob. 94417 78427> > > www.saibhavishyavan i.com ovnmurthy@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Members> > > > No one has clarified my doubt so far.> > > > How we are fixing DBA for marriage?> > > > As per KP, the DBA is selected from 2,7,11 house significators. I have proved that about 40% of the cases, marriage is celebrated in the DBA which is not the significators of 2,7,11 houses. In support of my statement, I have already posted 12 charts about two months back. There was no comment from seniors about those charts till now. Please confirm first whether the system we are following to arrive the DBA from primary significators is correct.> > > > Some may suggest to add 5th and 8th houses for marriage.> > > > Some may tell that 8th house is for divorce.> > > > In general, for any event, there must be one main house and two supporting houses. More than two supporting houses may lead to confusion.> > > > Dhanabalan.> > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 4/30/09, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ >> > > > Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Thursday, April 30, 2009, 7:56 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all members,> > > > > > > > I am a new member of your group. I too feel that we must consider DBA to work out the date of the happening. Without DBA the system may work only half which is ultimately of no use.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Vishram Deshpande> > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 29/4/09, Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>> > > > Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Wednesday, 29 April, 2009, 10:39 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Murthygaru,> > > > > > > > An excellent clarification. As you say it may work out correctly by using RPs for minor events. I don't know how far it will work out for major events without appling DBA.> > > > My warmth appreciation for your research mindedness.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > OVN MURTHY > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:25 PM> > > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Konthala P Naidu/ Sri KSV Ramani ji,> > > > > > > > The following is the line given by Sri Dhanbalan ji,> > > > > > > > "Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA?"> > > > > > > > As said by Sri Ramani; Sri Dhanbalan was born in Rahu- lagna sublord in Sagi Asc. Rahu is in Venus star who is lord of 5n10 on 9th cusp orb and I hope that is why he puts very tough ideas where it requires analytical thinking and create no thoughts on this subject as said by Sri KSK ji to do research more on diferent concepts.> > > > > > > > It seems he might attended the astrology seminar conducted recently in Chennai.> > > > > > > > According to my mind in KP u will know the results of each birth chart by identifying the sublords and significators of various houses, then u will apply the same to the DBA to identify when it will take place ( in case more significtors then ur using the RPs to filter the significators) as said by Sri Naidu, Vizag. > > > > > > > > Now this new idea of Sri Dhanbalan is without going to DBA only by RPs who are the significators of the concerned Bhavas would give the result on the concerned bhava on the day Where the RPs are matching with bhava. This principle I am following since a long time. This is meant for small events but not for big events, which are very limited events in life time. such as marriage, birth of children, etc.> > > > > > > > e.g. I see the RPs of 1. DayLord 2. Moon sign lord 3. Moon Star Lord> > > > at this juncture I verify whether these 3 RPs are connected to my 2nd house, 6 or 11, then I will see the other 2 RPs Ascendant signlord and Asc.. starlord whether it is operating in the normal working hours (not being early morning or after 9pm of the day) during that time I used to get my client or somebody visits and gives some money to me. This is one way of testing RP with petty events but not for big things where I have to see the DBA also invariably. This wonder predictions can work successfully with the help of RPS as said by Guruji.> > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards> > > > > > > > OVN MURTHY HYDERABAD 94417 78427/ 23232212> > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "Ramani" <kadavasalramani@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sri Naidu,> > > > > > > > > > Pl. don't underestimate Sri R.Dhanabalan for his query on> > > > > DBA. He has raised this query with some specific purpose> > > > > and reason. It is because, one gentleman posing himsel as a revolutionist has delivered lecture with many shortcut ideas, in which he has asserted that the DBAs are of no use for deciding event; instead he insists for applying RPs.> > > > > On this, Sri Dhanabalan, it seems has initiated a debate> > > > > on this subject. Let us watch his further observations. .> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani > > > > > - > > > > > K. P. Naidu > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:28 PM> > > > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr.Dhanabalan<> > > > > > > > > > It is surprising to find such a question from you having good knowledge of the subject of KP.> > > > > DBAS method is for predicting the timing of event. whether the event is promised or not is not dependent on DBAS. All this you may be knowing. Then why you have put such a question ? what exactly you expect from the members ?> > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regds.> > > > > > > > > > Naidu KP> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > K. P. Naidu,> > > > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> > > > > Nowroji Road,> > > > > Maharanipeta,> > > > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> > > > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 20/4/09, ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...>> > > > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > Monday, 20 April, 2009, 6:10 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dhanabalan> > > > > > > > > > Correct prediction in KP can be given without DBA but the timing of the event predicted will require DBA.> > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > Ajoy> > > > > - > > > > > Dhanabalan R > > > > > kpsystem groups > > > > > Monday, April 20, 2009 8:39 AM> > > > > Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members> > > > > Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA?> > > > > Dhanabalan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > > > Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cricket on your mind? 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Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Dear Amitabh ji,I feel apart from 2,7,11, 5 and 8 also can be looked into.But in your chart, DBA of your marriage Sat-Venus-Jup are connected to 2,7,11. Many charts do not reflect the rules directly. As we all know,It has the indirect connection too. AS I EVER SAY, WHEN RAHU OR KETU ARE INVOLVED, WE MUST BE MORE CAREFUL . I CALL THE NODES AS " MULTIFACED WEAPONS " .THEY CAN ACT ON ALL ANGLES WHICH WE DONT EXPECT.Sat in7 . It is in the star of Venus in 3. with Rahu who signifes 2 through Sun as sign Lord. and also 2,3 through Moon as it aspects. Also signfies 6,11 and 7 feebly through Jupiter aspects. Further Sat is in the sub of Rahu only. Venus is in Ketu star in 9 with lord of 2 Moon. It also signifies Sat in 7 as the sign lord.Venus is also in the sub of Rahu.Jupiter in 6 as Lord of 11 and 7 feebly. Jupiter is in the star of Ketu .Ketu in Jupiter star. Ketu signfies 9,2,7,6,11 thorugh Moon.sat,jup. Jupiter is also in the sub of Venus who is in conjunction with Rahu signifying 2,6,7,11 through Sun,Jupiter. Rahu is also in the sub of Sat in 7. We can analsye why Mercury and Ketu did not favor the marriage in Sat Dasa.Sat as a signficator of 7 and 2,11 through Rahu sub, it is favorable to give marriage in the right age.Mercury is in the star and sub of Sat ® and Ketu is in the star of Jup and sub of Sat®. Sat is the CSL for 5,11 and also 6,12. Hence delayed.Thanks and RegardsAdith On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 7:13 PM, amitabh srivastav <amitabhsoft wrote: Respected Murthy ji, I am somehow in agreement with Sh Dhanbalan ji that 2,7,11 does not relate with marriage in many cases. In my case (DOB 9-Aug-1960, 2:11 AM, Rai Bareli- 26N14, 81E16), the marriage took place in SAT-VEN_JUP period, the Venus has no connection whatsoever with 2,7,11 in my chart. In fact it will be difficult to tell correctly the marriage date within this period, if some one can attempt it. Let us organise some real research work by collecting say 50 charts and do analysis to find out the common logic in predicting correctly the DBA relating to such major event of the life. regards Amitabh--- On Tue, 5/12/09, OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy wrote: OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP Received: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 6:58 PM Dear Murthyji,Thanks a Million for the clarification through cases posted by Dhanabalanji. Although in the given charts doubts are cleared I would like to know in my chart why marriage took place in Merc/Sat Period. My Birth Details : Name: NitinDOB: 13/03/1975 TOB: 23.25 POB: Bhusawal/BhusavalAbout Me: I have studied KP & Vedic astrology from my guru Shri. Dharmarajan from Coimbatore(Unfortun ately he passed away in 2002) Studying astrology since 15 years. I found KP astrology more accurate in Horary than Natal Chart. Best Regards, NitinAnswer by Sri OVN Murthy Hyd. The file Nitin.pdf was already uploaded in the files section together with my comments for the event on 1st n 2nd pages. Mer Sat Marriage: Mer is 7th csl l/o 8n11 in 3 in the star Ma-Ve – Mars 1n6 in 3, Ve 7n12 in 5 which is favourable sublord. Sat as l/o 3n4 in 8 in Ra-Mo – Rahu in 1 (mars sg lord) in Sat star who is in 8th. Sublord Moon as l/o 9th in 4 in Sat star 8th. From many charts at the time of marriage we are also finding a new house involvement (5/8) apart from 2,7,11 significators. I found in my practical cases where during 6n12 significators involvement would bring, handicapped, divorcees, widows, etc. with some flaw in the spouse, ur compromising on that issue when those significators r inovled in giving marriage to the native. WITH THIS I AM CLOSING THIS TOPIC OF SRI DHANBALAN ON 4 FOLD DBA DOES NOT INDICATE THE SIGNIFICATION OF 2,7,11 FOR MARRIAGE. IN THIS CONNECTION IT IS SUBMITTED THAT THE 4 FOLD SIGNIFICATORS IS FIRST THEORY AT THE TIME OF KP FOUNDATION BY STALWARTS. SUBSEQUENTLY AFTER LOT OF RESEARCH AND OBSERVATIONS IN PRACTICAL CASES THESE RULES MODIFIED TO SOME EXTENT WHERE SIGNIFICATORS OF 5 AND 8, SECOND MARRIAGE 9TH HOUSE ALSO, IN BAD MATCHES (WIDOWS, DIVORCEES, HANDICAPPED) 6N12 ARE ALSO OPERATING. THE CORULERS OF 7TH HOUSE WHEREIN SIGN LORD, STAR LORD, SUB LORD IS ALSO TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT FOR THIS DETERMINATION. WHEN NODE IS INVOLVED STILL WE HAVE TO GO DEEP TO SEE THE ACTUAL CONNECTIONS THE NODE IS HAVING IN GIVING THE MARRIAGE. THIS REQUIRES LOT OF RESEARCH WHICH WAS ALREADY DONE BY MANY SENIORS BUT IT WAS NOT PUBLISHED HENCE MANY PEOPLE ARE NOT AWARE OF THIS. ONLY NOW IT IS AVAILABLE BECAZ OF THIS /FORUMS. THANKS FOR THE FORUM FOR BRINGING ALL THE NEW AREAS INTO FOR DISCUSSION. RegardsOVN Murthy, M.Com.FCS, ICWAI, PGDPA.Company SecretaryNizam Sugards Limited,Bashirbagh, Hyderabad 13. Ph. 040-23232212, res. 27405975 Mob. 94417 78427www.saibhavishyavan i.com ovnmurthy (AT) gmail (DOT) com @gro ups.com, " OVN MURTHY " <ovnmurthy@. ..> wrote:> > Dear Members,> > while answering Sri Dhanbalan's 10 charts I recd the requisition from Smt. Sujathadas IAS reg. her horoscope where Marriage DBA does not tally with the 4 fold Method. hence this reply. the file is uploaded in files division as Sujathadas IAS.pdf > > > Dear Madam,> The answer is as follows:> Marriage was performed in Jupiter Dasa who is in 8th as l/o 2n4 in his own star, Sublord Moon in Rahu star who is 7th csl. Mercury is in 6th as l/o 8n10 in Sun's star who is lord of 9 in 5 is favourable for marriage. However the dates of Mercury is in border of one 1week upto 23.4.79 marriage is on 14.4.79 if a small shift in dasa balance would shift it to Kethu who is in 7th bhava in Mars star who is starlord of 7th cusp. Hence not much difference.> > Regards> > ovn murthy> > - > sujata das > @gro ups.com > Cc: ovnmurthy@.. . > Monday, May 11, 2009 12:41 PM> Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > Dear Mr Murthy> Would you tell me how I got married in mer bhukti when it does not signify 2 7 11. > My dob is 5-5-55, tob is 9-37 pm, as rectified by Dr Kar and Mr K Ganpathy on the basis of events. POB is N. Delhi (latitude 28-37)> Regards> Sujata> > --- On Sun, 10/5/09, OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy@. ..> wrote: > > > OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy@. ..>> Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> @gro ups.com> Sunday, 10 May, 2009, 8:15 PM > > > > > > Dear Group Members,> > 5th chart 7female now discussed as 5th email.> > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " OVN MURTHY " <ovnmurthy@> wrote: > >> > Dear Group Members,> > > > 4th chart Quiz 5 wife's chart now discussed as 4th email.> > > > As the members are aware that Sri Dhanabalan ji has given 10 charts with birth details and marriage details wherein he claimed that the 4 fold DBAS have not connected to 2,7,11 as per the KP Rules, however marriages have taken place. In this connection he requested the members to offer their comments on this issue where KP rules have failed. NOW I AM ATTEMPTING THE FOURTH CHART OF QUIZ 5 WIFE'S CHART. > > > > The FOURTH chart was 5Quiz5Wife.pdf was loaded in the files section in separate folder viz. 10 Marriage DBA 4 Fold. In this file the second page indicates my findings how the marriage has taken place in the DBA Ve-Ju-Sa-Ve, who are significators of 2,7,11 as given in the 1st page with bold and underlined. The s/w used is Future Point. leogold of sri Arun Bansal of NewDelhi. > > > > > > > > Jupiter is l/o 1n10 in 8th Libra in Swathi- Rahu in 12th Sat rasi lord who is in 2nd and 11th lord unoccupied, 12 occupied by Rahu. Jupiter sub is Saturn who is in 2nd as lord of 11th, in Venus star a karaka for marriage. Venus DasaLord in Mer star and Sat sub strong significator for marriage. Bhukthi lord Jupiter as said above and being Retro he is weak at 1n10 ownership and the next house is strong as per Astro secrets i.e. 2n11 house in 8th. Anthara and Sookshama are Sat n Ven both are strong significators. Here Jup sublord speaks Saturn for giving Marriage. > > > > Further charts will be analyzed one after another and will be sent to the group. Plz go thru the files section whenin I have kept this pdf file viz. 5quiz5Wife.pdf in Directory 10 Marriage DBAS 4 Fold. I came to know some members who are not very conversant with systems are unable to go to the files section to download the pdf files. Hence I request the Moderator to do the needful. > > > > Regards> > > > OVN Murthy, M.Com.FCS, ICWAI, PGDPA.> > Company Secretary> > Nizam Sugards Limited,> > Bashirbagh, Hyderabad 13. Ph. 040-23232212, res. 27405975 > > Mob. 94417 78427> > www.saibhavishyavan i.com ovnmurthy@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " OVN MURTHY " <ovnmurthy@> wrote: > > >> > > > > > Dear Group Members,> > > > > > 3rd chart Dhanabalan's Friend now discussed as 3rd email.> > > > > > As the members are aware that Sri Dhanabalan ji has given 10 charts with birth details and marriage details wherein he claimed that the 4 fold DBAS have not connected to 2,7,11 as per the KP Rules, however marriages have taken place. In this connection he requested the members to offer their comments on this issue where KP rules have failed. NOW I AM ATTEMPTING THE THIRD CHART OF HIS FRIEND. > > > > > > The THIRD chart was 4.Dhanabalan Friend.pdf was loaded in the files section in separate folder viz. 10 Marriage DBA 4 Fold. In this file the second page indicates my findings how the marriage has taken place in the DBA Su-Me-Me, who are significators of 2,7,11 as given in the 1st page with bold and underlined. The s/w used is Future Point. leogold of sri Arun Bansal of NewDelhi. > > > > > > 3rd chart 4Dhanabalan Friend.pdf> > > > > > > > > 7th corulers Mo-Sa-Ra: Moon /Sat 7th significators. Rahu node in Sat sign who is lord 2 in Moon star 7th lord; Present DBA, Sun-Mer-Me-Mar; Sun in Rahu, Mer in Rahu whose 7th sublord. Nodes r always strong. Mars sookshma who is in Venus star karaka in 8th, Mars is lord of 11th . Hence there is no negative connection to 7th csl and DBAS. > > > > > > Further charts will be analyzed one after another and will be sent to the group. Plz go thru the files section whenin I have kept this pdf file viz.1Dhanabalan Daughter.pdf in Directory 10 Marriage DBAS 4 Fold > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > OVN Murthy, M.Com.FCS, ICWAI, PGDPA.> > > Company Secretary> > > Nizam Sugards Limited,> > > Bashirbagh, Hyderabad 13. Ph. 040-23232212, res. 27405975 > > > Mob. 94417 78427> > > www.saibhavishyavan i.com ovnmurthy@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote: > > > >> > > > Dear Members> > > > No one has clarified my doubt so far.> > > > How we are fixing DBA for marriage?> > > > As per KP, the DBA is selected from 2,7,11 house significators. I have proved that about 40% of the cases, marriage is celebrated in the DBA which is not the significators of 2,7,11 houses. In support of my statement, I have already posted 12 charts about two months back. There was no comment from seniors about those charts till now. Please confirm first whether the system we are following to arrive the DBA from primary significators is correct. > > > > Some may suggest to add 5th and 8th houses for marriage.> > > > Some may tell that 8th house is for divorce.> > > > In general, for any event, there must be one main house and two supporting houses. More than two supporting houses may lead to confusion.> > > > Dhanabalan.> > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 4/30/09, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ >> > > > Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Thursday, April 30, 2009, 7:56 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all members,> > > > > > > > I am a new member of your group. I too feel that we must consider DBA to work out the date of the happening. Without DBA the system may work only half which is ultimately of no use. > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Vishram Deshpande> > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 29/4/09, Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>> > > > Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Wednesday, 29 April, 2009, 10:39 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Murthygaru,> > > > > > > > An excellent clarification. As you say it may work out correctly by using RPs for minor events. I don't know how far it will work out for major events without appling DBA. > > > > My warmth appreciation for your research mindedness.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > OVN MURTHY > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:25 PM > > > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Konthala P Naidu/ Sri KSV Ramani ji,> > > > > > > > The following is the line given by Sri Dhanbalan ji,> > > > > > > > " Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA? " > > > > > > > > As said by Sri Ramani; Sri Dhanbalan was born in Rahu- lagna sublord in Sagi Asc. Rahu is in Venus star who is lord of 5n10 on 9th cusp orb and I hope that is why he puts very tough ideas where it requires analytical thinking and create no thoughts on this subject as said by Sri KSK ji to do research more on diferent concepts. > > > > > > > > It seems he might attended the astrology seminar conducted recently in Chennai.> > > > > > > > According to my mind in KP u will know the results of each birth chart by identifying the sublords and significators of various houses, then u will apply the same to the DBA to identify when it will take place ( in case more significtors then ur using the RPs to filter the significators) as said by Sri Naidu, Vizag. > > > > > > > > Now this new idea of Sri Dhanbalan is without going to DBA only by RPs who are the significators of the concerned Bhavas would give the result on the concerned bhava on the day Where the RPs are matching with bhava. This principle I am following since a long time. This is meant for small events but not for big events, which are very limited events in life time. such as marriage, birth of children, etc. > > > > > > > > e.g. I see the RPs of 1. DayLord 2. Moon sign lord 3. Moon Star Lord> > > > at this juncture I verify whether these 3 RPs are connected to my 2nd house, 6 or 11, then I will see the other 2 RPs Ascendant signlord and Asc.. starlord whether it is operating in the normal working hours (not being early morning or after 9pm of the day) during that time I used to get my client or somebody visits and gives some money to me. This is one way of testing RP with petty events but not for big things where I have to see the DBA also invariably. This wonder predictions can work successfully with the help of RPS as said by Guruji. > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards> > > > > > > > OVN MURTHY HYDERABAD 94417 78427/ 23232212> > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " Ramani " <kadavasalramani@ ...> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > Dear Sri Naidu,> > > > > > > > > > Pl. don't underestimate Sri R.Dhanabalan for his query on> > > > > DBA. He has raised this query with some specific purpose > > > > > and reason. It is because, one gentleman posing himsel as a revolutionist has delivered lecture with many shortcut ideas, in which he has asserted that the DBAs are of no use for deciding event; instead he insists for applying RPs.> > > > > On this, Sri Dhanabalan, it seems has initiated a debate > > > > > on this subject. Let us watch his further observations. .> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani > > > > > - > > > > > K. P. Naidu > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:28 PM > > > > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr.Dhanabalan<> > > > > > > > > > It is surprising to find such a question from you having good knowledge of the subject of KP.> > > > > DBAS method is for predicting the timing of event. whether the event is promised or not is not dependent on DBAS. All this you may be knowing. Then why you have put such a question ? what exactly you expect from the members ? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regds.> > > > > > > > > > Naidu KP> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > K. P. 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Guest guest Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Dear Friends Very good Idea.I unanimously vote for.It is a formidable question of selecting the Time with DBA.Sunaparanthaamitabh srivastav <amitabhsoft Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 7:13:25 PMRe: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP Respected Murthy ji, I am somehow in agreement with Sh Dhanbalan ji that 2,7,11 does not relate with marriage in many cases. In my case (DOB 9-Aug-1960, 2:11 AM, Rai Bareli- 26N14, 81E16), the marriage took place in SAT-VEN_JUP period, the Venus has no connection whatsoever with 2,7,11 in my chart. In fact it will be difficult to tell correctly the marriage date within this period, if some one can attempt it. Let us organise some real research work by collecting say 50 charts and do analysis to find out the common logic in predicting correctly the DBA relating to such major event of the life. regards Amitabh--- On Tue, 5/12/09, OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP@gro ups.comReceived: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 6:58 PM Dear Murthyji,Thanks a Million for the clarification through cases posted by Dhanabalanji. Although in the given charts doubts are cleared I would like to know in my chart why marriage took place in Merc/Sat Period.My Birth Details : Name: NitinDOB: 13/03/1975 TOB: 23.25 POB: Bhusawal/BhusavalAbout Me: I have studied KP & Vedic astrology from my guru Shri. Dharmarajan from Coimbatore(Unfortun ately he passed away in 2002)Studying astrology since 15 years. I found KP astrology more accurate in Horary than Natal Chart. Best Regards, NitinAnswer by Sri OVN Murthy Hyd. The file Nitin.pdf was already uploaded in the files section together with my comments for the event on 1st n 2nd pages. Mer Sat Marriage: Mer is 7th csl l/o 8n11 in 3 in the star Ma-Ve – Mars 1n6 in 3, Ve 7n12 in 5 which is favourable sublord. Sat as l/o 3n4 in 8 in Ra-Mo – Rahu in 1 (mars sg lord) in Sat star who is in 8th. Sublord Moon as l/o 9th in 4 in Sat star 8th. From many charts at the time of marriage we are also finding a new house involvement (5/8) apart from 2,7,11 significators. I found in my practical cases where during 6n12 significators involvement would bring, handicapped, divorcees, widows, etc. with some flaw in the spouse, ur compromising on that issue when those significators r inovled in giving marriage to the native.WITH THIS I AM CLOSING THIS TOPIC OF SRI DHANBALAN ON 4 FOLD DBA DOES NOT INDICATE THE SIGNIFICATION OF 2,7,11 FOR MARRIAGE. IN THIS CONNECTION IT IS SUBMITTED THAT THE 4 FOLD SIGNIFICATORS IS FIRST THEORY AT THE TIME OF KP FOUNDATION BY STALWARTS. SUBSEQUENTLY AFTER LOT OF RESEARCH AND OBSERVATIONS IN PRACTICAL CASES THESE RULES MODIFIED TO SOME EXTENT WHERE SIGNIFICATORS OF 5 AND 8, SECOND MARRIAGE 9TH HOUSE ALSO, IN BAD MATCHES (WIDOWS, DIVORCEES, HANDICAPPED) 6N12 ARE ALSO OPERATING. THE CORULERS OF 7TH HOUSE WHEREIN SIGN LORD, STAR LORD, SUB LORD IS ALSO TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT FOR THIS DETERMINATION. WHEN NODE IS INVOLVED STILL WE HAVE TO GO DEEP TO SEE THE ACTUAL CONNECTIONS THE NODE IS HAVING IN GIVING THE MARRIAGE. THIS REQUIRES LOT OF RESEARCH WHICH WAS ALREADY DONE BY MANY SENIORS BUT IT WAS NOT PUBLISHED HENCE MANY PEOPLE ARE NOT AWARE OF THIS. ONLY NOW IT IS AVAILABLE BECAZ OF THIS /FORUMS. THANKS FOR THE FORUM FOR BRINGING ALL THE NEW AREAS INTO FOR DISCUSSION.RegardsOVN Murthy, M.Com.FCS, ICWAI, PGDPA.Company SecretaryNizam Sugards Limited,Bashirbagh, Hyderabad 13. Ph. 040-23232212, res. 27405975 Mob. 94417 78427www.saibhavishyavan i.com ovnmurthy (AT) gmail (DOT) com@gro ups.com, "OVN MURTHY" <ovnmurthy@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Members,> > while answering Sri Dhanbalan's 10 charts I recd the requisition from Smt. Sujathadas IAS reg. her horoscope where Marriage DBA does not tally with the 4 fold Method. hence this reply. the file is uploaded in files division as Sujathadas IAS.pdf> > > Dear Madam,> The answer is as follows:> Marriage was performed in Jupiter Dasa who is in 8th as l/o 2n4 in his own star, Sublord Moon in Rahu star who is 7th csl. Mercury is in 6th as l/o 8n10 in Sun's star who is lord of 9 in 5 is favourable for marriage. However the dates of Mercury is in border of one 1week upto 23.4.79 marriage is on 14.4.79 if a small shift in dasa balance would shift it to Kethu who is in 7th bhava in Mars star who is starlord of 7th cusp. Hence not much difference.> > Regards> > ovn murthy> > - > sujata das > @gro ups.com > Cc: ovnmurthy@.. . > Monday, May 11, 2009 12:41 PM> Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > Dear Mr Murthy> Would you tell me how I got married in mer bhukti when it does not signify 2 7 11.> My dob is 5-5-55, tob is 9-37 pm, as rectified by Dr Kar and Mr K Ganpathy on the basis of events. POB is N. Delhi (latitude 28-37)> Regards> Sujata> > --- On Sun, 10/5/09, OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy@. ..> wrote:> > > OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy@. ..>> Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> @gro ups.com> Sunday, 10 May, 2009, 8:15 PM> > > > > > Dear Group Members,> > 5th chart 7female now discussed as 5th email.> > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "OVN MURTHY" <ovnmurthy@> wrote:> >> > Dear Group Members,> > > > 4th chart Quiz 5 wife's chart now discussed as 4th email.> > > > As the members are aware that Sri Dhanabalan ji has given 10 charts with birth details and marriage details wherein he claimed that the 4 fold DBAS have not connected to 2,7,11 as per the KP Rules, however marriages have taken place. In this connection he requested the members to offer their comments on this issue where KP rules have failed. NOW I AM ATTEMPTING THE FOURTH CHART OF QUIZ 5 WIFE'S CHART. > > > > The FOURTH chart was 5Quiz5Wife.pdf was loaded in the files section in separate folder viz. 10 Marriage DBA 4 Fold. In this file the second page indicates my findings how the marriage has taken place in the DBA Ve-Ju-Sa-Ve, who are significators of 2,7,11 as given in the 1st page with bold and underlined. The s/w used is Future Point. leogold of sri Arun Bansal of NewDelhi.> > > > > > > > Jupiter is l/o 1n10 in 8th Libra in Swathi- Rahu in 12th Sat rasi lord who is in 2nd and 11th lord unoccupied, 12 occupied by Rahu. Jupiter sub is Saturn who is in 2nd as lord of 11th, in Venus star a karaka for marriage. Venus DasaLord in Mer star and Sat sub strong significator for marriage. Bhukthi lord Jupiter as said above and being Retro he is weak at 1n10 ownership and the next house is strong as per Astro secrets i.e. 2n11 house in 8th. Anthara and Sookshama are Sat n Ven both are strong significators. Here Jup sublord speaks Saturn for giving Marriage.> > > > Further charts will be analyzed one after another and will be sent to the group. Plz go thru the files section whenin I have kept this pdf file viz. 5quiz5Wife.pdf in Directory 10 Marriage DBAS 4 Fold. I came to know some members who are not very conversant with systems are unable to go to the files section to download the pdf files. Hence I request the Moderator to do the needful.> > > > Regards> > > > OVN Murthy, M.Com.FCS, ICWAI, PGDPA.> > Company Secretary> > Nizam Sugards Limited,> > Bashirbagh, Hyderabad 13. Ph. 040-23232212, res. 27405975 > > Mob. 94417 78427> > www.saibhavishyavan i.com ovnmurthy@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "OVN MURTHY" <ovnmurthy@> wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear Group Members,> > > > > > 3rd chart Dhanabalan's Friend now discussed as 3rd email.> > > > > > As the members are aware that Sri Dhanabalan ji has given 10 charts with birth details and marriage details wherein he claimed that the 4 fold DBAS have not connected to 2,7,11 as per the KP Rules, however marriages have taken place. In this connection he requested the members to offer their comments on this issue where KP rules have failed. NOW I AM ATTEMPTING THE THIRD CHART OF HIS FRIEND. > > > > > > The THIRD chart was 4.Dhanabalan Friend.pdf was loaded in the files section in separate folder viz. 10 Marriage DBA 4 Fold. In this file the second page indicates my findings how the marriage has taken place in the DBA Su-Me-Me, who are significators of 2,7,11 as given in the 1st page with bold and underlined. The s/w used is Future Point. leogold of sri Arun Bansal of NewDelhi.> > > > > > 3rd chart 4Dhanabalan Friend.pdf> > > > > > > > > 7th corulers Mo-Sa-Ra: Moon /Sat 7th significators. Rahu node in Sat sign who is lord 2 in Moon star 7th lord; Present DBA, Sun-Mer-Me-Mar; Sun in Rahu, Mer in Rahu whose 7th sublord. Nodes r always strong. Mars sookshma who is in Venus star karaka in 8th, Mars is lord of 11th . Hence there is no negative connection to 7th csl and DBAS. > > > > > > Further charts will be analyzed one after another and will be sent to the group. Plz go thru the files section whenin I have kept this pdf file viz.1Dhanabalan Daughter.pdf in Directory 10 Marriage DBAS 4 Fold> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > OVN Murthy, M.Com.FCS, ICWAI, PGDPA.> > > Company Secretary> > > Nizam Sugards Limited,> > > Bashirbagh, Hyderabad 13. Ph. 040-23232212, res. 27405975 > > > Mob. 94417 78427> > > www.saibhavishyavan i.com ovnmurthy@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Members> > > > No one has clarified my doubt so far.> > > > How we are fixing DBA for marriage?> > > > As per KP, the DBA is selected from 2,7,11 house significators. I have proved that about 40% of the cases, marriage is celebrated in the DBA which is not the significators of 2,7,11 houses. In support of my statement, I have already posted 12 charts about two months back. There was no comment from seniors about those charts till now. Please confirm first whether the system we are following to arrive the DBA from primary significators is correct.> > > > Some may suggest to add 5th and 8th houses for marriage.> > > > Some may tell that 8th house is for divorce.> > > > In general, for any event, there must be one main house and two supporting houses. More than two supporting houses may lead to confusion.> > > > Dhanabalan.> > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 4/30/09, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ >> > > > Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Thursday, April 30, 2009, 7:56 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all members,> > > > > > > > I am a new member of your group. I too feel that we must consider DBA to work out the date of the happening. Without DBA the system may work only half which is ultimately of no use.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Vishram Deshpande> > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 29/4/09, Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>> > > > Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Wednesday, 29 April, 2009, 10:39 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Murthygaru,> > > > > > > > An excellent clarification. As you say it may work out correctly by using RPs for minor events. I don't know how far it will work out for major events without appling DBA.> > > > My warmth appreciation for your research mindedness.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > OVN MURTHY > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:25 PM> > > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Konthala P Naidu/ Sri KSV Ramani ji,> > > > > > > > The following is the line given by Sri Dhanbalan ji,> > > > > > > > "Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA?"> > > > > > > > As said by Sri Ramani; Sri Dhanbalan was born in Rahu- lagna sublord in Sagi Asc. Rahu is in Venus star who is lord of 5n10 on 9th cusp orb and I hope that is why he puts very tough ideas where it requires analytical thinking and create no thoughts on this subject as said by Sri KSK ji to do research more on diferent concepts.> > > > > > > > It seems he might attended the astrology seminar conducted recently in Chennai.> > > > > > > > According to my mind in KP u will know the results of each birth chart by identifying the sublords and significators of various houses, then u will apply the same to the DBA to identify when it will take place ( in case more significtors then ur using the RPs to filter the significators) as said by Sri Naidu, Vizag. > > > > > > > > Now this new idea of Sri Dhanbalan is without going to DBA only by RPs who are the significators of the concerned Bhavas would give the result on the concerned bhava on the day Where the RPs are matching with bhava. This principle I am following since a long time. This is meant for small events but not for big events, which are very limited events in life time. such as marriage, birth of children, etc.> > > > > > > > e.g. I see the RPs of 1. DayLord 2. Moon sign lord 3. Moon Star Lord> > > > at this juncture I verify whether these 3 RPs are connected to my 2nd house, 6 or 11, then I will see the other 2 RPs Ascendant signlord and Asc.. starlord whether it is operating in the normal working hours (not being early morning or after 9pm of the day) during that time I used to get my client or somebody visits and gives some money to me. This is one way of testing RP with petty events but not for big things where I have to see the DBA also invariably. This wonder predictions can work successfully with the help of RPS as said by Guruji.> > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards> > > > > > > > OVN MURTHY HYDERABAD 94417 78427/ 23232212> > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "Ramani" <kadavasalramani@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sri Naidu,> > > > > > > > > > Pl. don't underestimate Sri R.Dhanabalan for his query on> > > > > DBA. He has raised this query with some specific purpose> > > > > and reason. It is because, one gentleman posing himsel as a revolutionist has delivered lecture with many shortcut ideas, in which he has asserted that the DBAs are of no use for deciding event; instead he insists for applying RPs.> > > > > On this, Sri Dhanabalan, it seems has initiated a debate> > > > > on this subject. Let us watch his further observations. .> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani > > > > > - > > > > > K. P. Naidu > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:28 PM> > > > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr.Dhanabalan<> > > > > > > > > > It is surprising to find such a question from you having good knowledge of the subject of KP.> > > > > DBAS method is for predicting the timing of event. whether the event is promised or not is not dependent on DBAS. All this you may be knowing. Then why you have put such a question ? what exactly you expect from the members ?> > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regds.> > > > > > > > > > Naidu KP> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > K. P. Naidu,> > > > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> > > > > Nowroji Road,> > > > > Maharanipeta,> > > > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> > > > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 20/4/09, ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...>> > > > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > Monday, 20 April, 2009, 6:10 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dhanabalan> > > > > > > > > > Correct prediction in KP can be given without DBA but the timing of the event predicted will require DBA.> > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > Ajoy> > > > > - > > > > > Dhanabalan R > > > > > kpsystem groups > > > > > Monday, April 20, 2009 8:39 AM> > > > > Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members> > > > > Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA?> > > > > Dhanabalan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > > > Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cricket on your mind? 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Guest guest Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 -: > > Respected Madam Sujataji In your chart KET is agent for MER KET is in 7 in the star of MAR is conjoined to 7th(2.83 degrees) & sub of MOON conjoined to 11th. So KET significations are given in MER DBA. Regards K.Raja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Dear Amitabhji In your chart KET is an agent for VEN because VEN in the star of KET. So KET significations are,KET conjoined to MOON (2nd & 3rd lord) KET in the star of JUP (7th & 11th lord in 6th) sub lord is SAT in 7th.So KET connected to 2,7,11 KET significations are given to VEN DBA. With Regards K.Raja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Dear AmitabhVen is in the star of ketu.which is an agent of ju and sat, so will give their rasults ju is lord of 7, 11 and sat is deposited in 7.Regarding KPSTAR ONE, I uninstalled 6.6.6, 8B and reinstalled them. But I cannot save chartsWould u kindly helpRegardsSujataamitabh srivastav <amitabhsoft Sent: Thursday, 14 May, 2009 7:13:25 PMRe: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP Respected Murthy ji, I am somehow in agreement with Sh Dhanbalan ji that 2,7,11 does not relate with marriage in many cases. In my case (DOB 9-Aug-1960, 2:11 AM, Rai Bareli- 26N14, 81E16), the marriage took place in SAT-VEN_JUP period, the Venus has no connection whatsoever with 2,7,11 in my chart. In fact it will be difficult to tell correctly the marriage date within this period, if some one can attempt it. Let us organise some real research work by collecting say 50 charts and do analysis to find out the common logic in predicting correctly the DBA relating to such major event of the life. regards Amitabh--- On Tue, 5/12/09, OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP@gro ups.comReceived: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 6:58 PM Dear Murthyji,Thanks a Million for the clarification through cases posted by Dhanabalanji. Although in the given charts doubts are cleared I would like to know in my chart why marriage took place in Merc/Sat Period.My Birth Details : Name: NitinDOB: 13/03/1975 TOB: 23.25 POB: Bhusawal/BhusavalAbout Me: I have studied KP & Vedic astrology from my guru Shri. Dharmarajan from Coimbatore(Unfortun ately he passed away in 2002)Studying astrology since 15 years. I found KP astrology more accurate in Horary than Natal Chart. Best Regards, NitinAnswer by Sri OVN Murthy Hyd. The file Nitin.pdf was already uploaded in the files section together with my comments for the event on 1st n 2nd pages. Mer Sat Marriage: Mer is 7th csl l/o 8n11 in 3 in the star Ma-Ve – Mars 1n6 in 3, Ve 7n12 in 5 which is favourable sublord. Sat as l/o 3n4 in 8 in Ra-Mo – Rahu in 1 (mars sg lord) in Sat star who is in 8th. Sublord Moon as l/o 9th in 4 in Sat star 8th. From many charts at the time of marriage we are also finding a new house involvement (5/8) apart from 2,7,11 significators. I found in my practical cases where during 6n12 significators involvement would bring, handicapped, divorcees, widows, etc. with some flaw in the spouse, ur compromising on that issue when those significators r inovled in giving marriage to the native.WITH THIS I AM CLOSING THIS TOPIC OF SRI DHANBALAN ON 4 FOLD DBA DOES NOT INDICATE THE SIGNIFICATION OF 2,7,11 FOR MARRIAGE. IN THIS CONNECTION IT IS SUBMITTED THAT THE 4 FOLD SIGNIFICATORS IS FIRST THEORY AT THE TIME OF KP FOUNDATION BY STALWARTS. SUBSEQUENTLY AFTER LOT OF RESEARCH AND OBSERVATIONS IN PRACTICAL CASES THESE RULES MODIFIED TO SOME EXTENT WHERE SIGNIFICATORS OF 5 AND 8, SECOND MARRIAGE 9TH HOUSE ALSO, IN BAD MATCHES (WIDOWS, DIVORCEES, HANDICAPPED) 6N12 ARE ALSO OPERATING. THE CORULERS OF 7TH HOUSE WHEREIN SIGN LORD, STAR LORD, SUB LORD IS ALSO TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT FOR THIS DETERMINATION. WHEN NODE IS INVOLVED STILL WE HAVE TO GO DEEP TO SEE THE ACTUAL CONNECTIONS THE NODE IS HAVING IN GIVING THE MARRIAGE. THIS REQUIRES LOT OF RESEARCH WHICH WAS ALREADY DONE BY MANY SENIORS BUT IT WAS NOT PUBLISHED HENCE MANY PEOPLE ARE NOT AWARE OF THIS. ONLY NOW IT IS AVAILABLE BECAZ OF THIS /FORUMS. THANKS FOR THE FORUM FOR BRINGING ALL THE NEW AREAS INTO FOR DISCUSSION.RegardsOVN Murthy, M.Com.FCS, ICWAI, PGDPA.Company SecretaryNizam Sugards Limited,Bashirbagh, Hyderabad 13. Ph. 040-23232212, res. 27405975 Mob. 94417 78427www.saibhavishyavan i.com ovnmurthy (AT) gmail (DOT) com@gro ups.com, "OVN MURTHY" <ovnmurthy@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Members,> > while answering Sri Dhanbalan's 10 charts I recd the requisition from Smt. Sujathadas IAS reg. her horoscope where Marriage DBA does not tally with the 4 fold Method. hence this reply. the file is uploaded in files division as Sujathadas IAS..pdf> > > Dear Madam,> The answer is as follows:> Marriage was performed in Jupiter Dasa who is in 8th as l/o 2n4 in his own star, Sublord Moon in Rahu star who is 7th csl. Mercury is in 6th as l/o 8n10 in Sun's star who is lord of 9 in 5 is favourable for marriage.. However the dates of Mercury is in border of one 1week upto 23.4.79 marriage is on 14.4.79 if a small shift in dasa balance would shift it to Kethu who is in 7th bhava in Mars star who is starlord of 7th cusp. Hence not much difference.> > Regards> > ovn murthy> > - > sujata das > @gro ups.com > Cc: ovnmurthy@.. . > Monday, May 11, 2009 12:41 PM> Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > Dear Mr Murthy> Would you tell me how I got married in mer bhukti when it does not signify 2 7 11.> My dob is 5-5-55, tob is 9-37 pm, as rectified by Dr Kar and Mr K Ganpathy on the basis of events. POB is N. Delhi (latitude 28-37)> Regards> Sujata> > --- On Sun, 10/5/09, OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy@. ..> wrote:> > > OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy@. ..>> Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> @gro ups.com> Sunday, 10 May, 2009, 8:15 PM> > > > > > Dear Group Members,> > 5th chart 7female now discussed as 5th email.> > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "OVN MURTHY" <ovnmurthy@> wrote:> >> > Dear Group Members,> > > > 4th chart Quiz 5 wife's chart now discussed as 4th email.> > > > As the members are aware that Sri Dhanabalan ji has given 10 charts with birth details and marriage details wherein he claimed that the 4 fold DBAS have not connected to 2,7,11 as per the KP Rules, however marriages have taken place. In this connection he requested the members to offer their comments on this issue where KP rules have failed. NOW I AM ATTEMPTING THE FOURTH CHART OF QUIZ 5 WIFE'S CHART. > > > > The FOURTH chart was 5Quiz5Wife.pdf was loaded in the files section in separate folder viz. 10 Marriage DBA 4 Fold. In this file the second page indicates my findings how the marriage has taken place in the DBA Ve-Ju-Sa-Ve, who are significators of 2,7,11 as given in the 1st page with bold and underlined. The s/w used is Future Point. leogold of sri Arun Bansal of NewDelhi.> > > > > > > > Jupiter is l/o 1n10 in 8th Libra in Swathi- Rahu in 12th Sat rasi lord who is in 2nd and 11th lord unoccupied, 12 occupied by Rahu. Jupiter sub is Saturn who is in 2nd as lord of 11th, in Venus star a karaka for marriage. Venus DasaLord in Mer star and Sat sub strong significator for marriage. Bhukthi lord Jupiter as said above and being Retro he is weak at 1n10 ownership and the next house is strong as per Astro secrets i.e. 2n11 house in 8th. Anthara and Sookshama are Sat n Ven both are strong significators. Here Jup sublord speaks Saturn for giving Marriage.> > > > Further charts will be analyzed one after another and will be sent to the group. Plz go thru the files section whenin I have kept this pdf file viz. 5quiz5Wife.pdf in Directory 10 Marriage DBAS 4 Fold. I came to know some members who are not very conversant with systems are unable to go to the files section to download the pdf files. Hence I request the Moderator to do the needful.> > > > Regards> > > > OVN Murthy, M.Com.FCS, ICWAI, PGDPA.> > Company Secretary> > Nizam Sugards Limited,> > Bashirbagh, Hyderabad 13. Ph. 040-23232212, res. 27405975 > > Mob. 94417 78427> > www.saibhavishyavan i.com ovnmurthy@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "OVN MURTHY" <ovnmurthy@> wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear Group Members,> > > > > > 3rd chart Dhanabalan's Friend now discussed as 3rd email.> > > > > > As the members are aware that Sri Dhanabalan ji has given 10 charts with birth details and marriage details wherein he claimed that the 4 fold DBAS have not connected to 2,7,11 as per the KP Rules, however marriages have taken place. In this connection he requested the members to offer their comments on this issue where KP rules have failed. NOW I AM ATTEMPTING THE THIRD CHART OF HIS FRIEND. > > > > > > The THIRD chart was 4.Dhanabalan Friend.pdf was loaded in the files section in separate folder viz. 10 Marriage DBA 4 Fold. In this file the second page indicates my findings how the marriage has taken place in the DBA Su-Me-Me, who are significators of 2,7,11 as given in the 1st page with bold and underlined. The s/w used is Future Point. leogold of sri Arun Bansal of NewDelhi.> > > > > > 3rd chart 4Dhanabalan Friend.pdf> > > > > > > > > 7th corulers Mo-Sa-Ra: Moon /Sat 7th significators. Rahu node in Sat sign who is lord 2 in Moon star 7th lord; Present DBA, Sun-Mer-Me-Mar; Sun in Rahu, Mer in Rahu whose 7th sublord. Nodes r always strong. Mars sookshma who is in Venus star karaka in 8th, Mars is lord of 11th . Hence there is no negative connection to 7th csl and DBAS. > > > > > > Further charts will be analyzed one after another and will be sent to the group. Plz go thru the files section whenin I have kept this pdf file viz.1Dhanabalan Daughter.pdf in Directory 10 Marriage DBAS 4 Fold> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > OVN Murthy, M.Com.FCS, ICWAI, PGDPA.> > > Company Secretary> > > Nizam Sugards Limited,> > > Bashirbagh, Hyderabad 13. Ph. 040-23232212, res. 27405975 > > > Mob. 94417 78427> > > www.saibhavishyavan i.com ovnmurthy@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Members> > > > No one has clarified my doubt so far.> > > > How we are fixing DBA for marriage?> > > > As per KP, the DBA is selected from 2,7,11 house significators. I have proved that about 40% of the cases, marriage is celebrated in the DBA which is not the significators of 2,7,11 houses. In support of my statement, I have already posted 12 charts about two months back. There was no comment from seniors about those charts till now. Please confirm first whether the system we are following to arrive the DBA from primary significators is correct.> > > > Some may suggest to add 5th and 8th houses for marriage.> > > > Some may tell that 8th house is for divorce.> > > > In general, for any event, there must be one main house and two supporting houses. More than two supporting houses may lead to confusion.> > > > Dhanabalan.> > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 4/30/09, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ >> > > > Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Thursday, April 30, 2009, 7:56 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all members,> > > > > > > > I am a new member of your group. I too feel that we must consider DBA to work out the date of the happening. Without DBA the system may work only half which is ultimately of no use.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Vishram Deshpande> > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 29/4/09, Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>> > > > Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Wednesday, 29 April, 2009, 10:39 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Murthygaru,> > > > > > > > An excellent clarification. As you say it may work out correctly by using RPs for minor events. I don't know how far it will work out for major events without appling DBA.> > > > My warmth appreciation for your research mindedness.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > OVN MURTHY > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:25 PM> > > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Konthala P Naidu/ Sri KSV Ramani ji,> > > > > > > > The following is the line given by Sri Dhanbalan ji,> > > > > > > > "Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA?"> > > > > > > > As said by Sri Ramani; Sri Dhanbalan was born in Rahu- lagna sublord in Sagi Asc. Rahu is in Venus star who is lord of 5n10 on 9th cusp orb and I hope that is why he puts very tough ideas where it requires analytical thinking and create no thoughts on this subject as said by Sri KSK ji to do research more on diferent concepts.> > > > > > > > It seems he might attended the astrology seminar conducted recently in Chennai.> > > > > > > > According to my mind in KP u will know the results of each birth chart by identifying the sublords and significators of various houses, then u will apply the same to the DBA to identify when it will take place ( in case more significtors then ur using the RPs to filter the significators) as said by Sri Naidu, Vizag. > > > > > > > > Now this new idea of Sri Dhanbalan is without going to DBA only by RPs who are the significators of the concerned Bhavas would give the result on the concerned bhava on the day Where the RPs are matching with bhava. This principle I am following since a long time. This is meant for small events but not for big events, which are very limited events in life time. such as marriage, birth of children, etc.> > > > > > > > e.g. I see the RPs of 1. DayLord 2. Moon sign lord 3. Moon Star Lord> > > > at this juncture I verify whether these 3 RPs are connected to my 2nd house, 6 or 11, then I will see the other 2 RPs Ascendant signlord and Asc.. starlord whether it is operating in the normal working hours (not being early morning or after 9pm of the day) during that time I used to get my client or somebody visits and gives some money to me. This is one way of testing RP with petty events but not for big things where I have to see the DBA also invariably. This wonder predictions can work successfully with the help of RPS as said by Guruji.> > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards> > > > > > > > OVN MURTHY HYDERABAD 94417 78427/ 23232212> > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "Ramani" <kadavasalramani@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sri Naidu,> > > > > > > > > > Pl. don't underestimate Sri R.Dhanabalan for his query on> > > > > DBA. He has raised this query with some specific purpose> > > > > and reason. It is because, one gentleman posing himsel as a revolutionist has delivered lecture with many shortcut ideas, in which he has asserted that the DBAs are of no use for deciding event; instead he insists for applying RPs.> > > > > On this, Sri Dhanabalan, it seems has initiated a debate> > > > > on this subject. Let us watch his further observations. .> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani > > > > > - > > > > > K. P. Naidu > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:28 PM> > > > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr.Dhanabalan<> > > > > > > > > > It is surprising to find such a question from you having good knowledge of the subject of KP.> > > > > DBAS method is for predicting the timing of event. whether the event is promised or not is not dependent on DBAS. All this you may be knowing. Then why you have put such a question ? what exactly you expect from the members ?> > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regds.> > > > > > > > > > Naidu KP> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > K. P. Naidu,> > > > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> > > > > Nowroji Road,> > > > > Maharanipeta,> > > > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> > > > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 20/4/09, ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...>> > > > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > Monday, 20 April, 2009, 6:10 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dhanabalan> > > > > > > > > > Correct prediction in KP can be given without DBA but the timing of the event predicted will require DBA.> > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > Ajoy> > > > > - > > > > > Dhanabalan R > > > > > kpsystem groups > > > > > Monday, April 20, 2009 8:39 AM> > > > > Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members> > > > > Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA?> > > > > Dhanabalan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > > > Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cricket on your mind? 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Guest guest Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Dear RajaAs per TWji, KP rules will allow ke to give results of mer but not vice- versa ie mer cannot give results of keDo u know of any case wherein it has happenedRegardsSujatakkrsaro <kkrsaro Sent: Friday, 15 May, 2009 12:24:44 PM Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP -: > > Respected Madam Sujataji In your chart KET is agent for MER KET is in 7 in the star of MAR is conjoined to 7th(2.83 degrees) & sub of MOON conjoined to 11th. So KET significations are given in MER DBA. Regards K.Raja Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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