Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP

May 18, 2009

Respected Madam Sujataji

>

Number of cases we are analyzing like this way,MR.AMITABH chart also like

this.

With Regards

K.Raja

May 18, 2009

Dear Seniors

Thanks to all for the analysis. Thank you Adith ji for explaining why it did not

happen during previous Dasas of Mer (stronly signifying 7 & 2) or Ketu

(signtfying 7 & 11). As these were strong contenders of 2,7,11. As I understood

from KP books that if the node represent a planet then we have to take NODE as

these were considered stronger, but vice versa can also be true was never

considered by me.

regards

Amitabh

, " adith kasinath.g.k " <gkadithkasinath

wrote:

>

> Dear Amitabh ji,

>

> I feel apart from 2,7,11, 5 and 8 also can be looked into.

>

> But in your chart, DBA of your marriage Sat-Venus-Jup are connected to

> 2,7,11.

> Many charts do not reflect the rules directly. As we all know,It has the

> indirect connection too.

>

> AS I EVER SAY, WHEN RAHU OR KETU ARE INVOLVED, WE MUST BE MORE CAREFUL . I

> CALL THE NODES AS " MULTIFACED WEAPONS " .THEY CAN ACT ON ALL ANGLES WHICH WE

> DONT EXPECT.

>

> Sat in*7* . It is in the star of Venus in 3. with Rahu who signifes*

> 2*through Sun as sign Lord. and also

> *2*,3 through Moon as it aspects. Also signfies 6*,11* and 7 feebly through

> Jupiter aspects. Further Sat is in the sub of Rahu only.

>

> Venus is in Ketu star in 9 with lord of *2* Moon. It also signifies Sat in 7

> as the sign lord.

> Venus is also in the sub of Rahu.

>

> Jupiter in 6 as Lord of 11 and 7 feebly. Jupiter is in the star of Ketu

> .Ketu in Jupiter star. Ketu signfies 9,2,7,6,11 thorugh Moon.sat,jup.

> Jupiter is also in the sub of Venus who is in conjunction with Rahu

> signifying 2,6,7,11 through Sun,Jupiter. Rahu is also in the sub of Sat in

> 7.

>

> We can analsye why Mercury and Ketu did not favor the marriage in Sat Dasa.

> Sat as a signficator of 7 and 2,11 through Rahu sub, it is favorable to give

> marriage in the right age.

>

> Mercury is in the star and sub of Sat ® and Ketu is in the star of Jup and

> sub of Sat®.

> Sat is the CSL for 5,11 and also 6,12. Hence delayed.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Adith

>

> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 7:13 PM, amitabh srivastav <amitabhsoftwrote:

>

> >

> > Respected Murthy ji,

> >

> > I am somehow in agreement with Sh Dhanbalan ji that 2,7,11 does not relate

> > with marriage in many cases. In my case (DOB 9-Aug-1960, 2:11 AM, Rai

> > Bareli- 26N14, 81E16), the marriage took place in SAT-VEN_JUP period, the

> > Venus has no connection whatsoever with 2,7,11 in my chart. In fact it will

> > be difficult to tell correctly the marriage date within this period, if some

> > one can attempt it.

> >

> > Let us organise some real research work by collecting say 50 charts and do

> > analysis to find out the common logic in predicting correctly the DBA

> > relating to such major event of the life.

> >

> > regards

> > Amitabh

> >

> > --- On *Tue, 5/12/09, OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy* wrote:

> >

> > OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy

> > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP

> >

> > Received: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 6:58 PM

> >

> > Dear Murthyji,

> >

> > Thanks a Million for the clarification through cases posted by

> > Dhanabalanji. Although in the given charts doubts are cleared I would like

> > to know in my chart why marriage took place in Merc/Sat Period.

> >

> > My Birth Details : Name: Nitin

> > DOB: 13/03/1975 TOB: 23.25 POB: Bhusawal/Bhusaval

> >

> > About Me: I have studied KP & Vedic astrology from my guru Shri.

> > Dharmarajan from Coimbatore(Unfortun ately he passed away in 2002)

> > Studying astrology since 15 years. I found KP astrology more accurate in

> > Horary than Natal Chart.

> >

> > Best Regards,

> > Nitin

> >

> > Answer by Sri OVN Murthy Hyd. The file Nitin.pdf was already uploaded in

> > the files section together with my comments for the event on 1st n 2nd

> > pages.

> >

> > Mer Sat Marriage: Mer is 7th csl l/o 8n11 in 3 in the star Ma-Ve – Mars 1n6

> > in 3, Ve 7n12 in 5 which is favourable sublord. Sat as l/o 3n4 in 8 in Ra-Mo

> > – Rahu in 1 (mars sg lord) in Sat star who is in 8th. Sublord Moon as l/o

> > 9th in 4 in Sat star 8th. From many charts at the time of marriage we are

> > also finding a new house involvement (5/8) apart from 2,7,11 significators.

> > I found in my practical cases where during 6n12 significators involvement

> > would bring, handicapped, divorcees, widows, etc. with some flaw in the

> > spouse, ur compromising on that issue when those significators r inovled in

> > giving marriage to the native.

> >

> > WITH THIS I AM CLOSING THIS TOPIC OF SRI DHANBALAN ON 4 FOLD DBA DOES NOT

> > INDICATE THE SIGNIFICATION OF 2,7,11 FOR MARRIAGE. IN THIS CONNECTION IT IS

> > SUBMITTED THAT THE 4 FOLD SIGNIFICATORS IS FIRST THEORY AT THE TIME OF KP

> > FOUNDATION BY STALWARTS.

> > SUBSEQUENTLY AFTER LOT OF RESEARCH AND OBSERVATIONS IN PRACTICAL CASES

> > THESE RULES MODIFIED TO SOME EXTENT WHERE SIGNIFICATORS OF 5 AND 8, SECOND

> > MARRIAGE 9TH HOUSE ALSO, IN BAD MATCHES (WIDOWS, DIVORCEES, HANDICAPPED)

> > 6N12 ARE ALSO OPERATING. THE CORULERS OF 7TH HOUSE WHEREIN SIGN LORD, STAR

> > LORD, SUB LORD IS ALSO TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT FOR THIS DETERMINATION. WHEN

> > NODE IS INVOLVED STILL WE HAVE TO GO DEEP TO SEE THE ACTUAL CONNECTIONS THE

> > NODE IS HAVING IN GIVING THE MARRIAGE. THIS REQUIRES LOT OF RESEARCH WHICH

> > WAS ALREADY DONE BY MANY SENIORS BUT IT WAS NOT PUBLISHED HENCE MANY PEOPLE

> > ARE NOT AWARE OF THIS. ONLY NOW IT IS AVAILABLE BECAZ OF THIS

> > GROUPS/FORUMS. THANKS FOR THE FORUM FOR BRINGING ALL THE NEW AREAS INTO FOR

> > DISCUSSION.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > OVN Murthy, M.Com.FCS, ICWAI, PGDPA.

> > Company Secretary

> > Nizam Sugards Limited,

> > Bashirbagh, Hyderabad 13. Ph. 040-23232212, res. 27405975

> > Mob. 94417 78427

> > www.saibhavishyavan i.com ovnmurthy (AT) gmail (DOT)

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> >

> > @gro

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> > " OVN MURTHY " <ovnmurthy@ ..> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Members,

> > >

> > > while answering Sri Dhanbalan's 10 charts I recd the requisition from

> > Smt. Sujathadas IAS reg. her horoscope where Marriage DBA does not tally

> > with the 4 fold Method. hence this reply. the file is uploaded in files

> > division as Sujathadas IAS.pdf

> > >

> > > Dear Madam,

> > > The answer is as follows:

> > > Marriage was performed in Jupiter Dasa who is in 8th as l/o 2n4 in his

> > own star, Sublord Moon in Rahu star who is 7th csl. Mercury is in 6th as l/o

> > 8n10 in Sun's star who is lord of 9 in 5 is favourable for marriage. However

> > the dates of Mercury is in border of one 1week upto 23.4.79 marriage is on

> > 14.4.79 if a small shift in dasa balance would shift it to Kethu who is in

> > 7th bhava in Mars star who is starlord of 7th cusp. Hence not much

> > difference.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > ovn murthy

> > >

> > > -

> > > sujata das

> > > @gro

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> > > Cc: ovnmurthy@ .

> > > Monday, May 11, 2009 12:41 PM

> > > Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP

> > >

> > > Dear Mr Murthy

> > > Would you tell me how I got married in mer bhukti when it does not

> > signify 2 7 11.

> > > My dob is 5-5-55, tob is 9-37 pm, as rectified by Dr Kar and Mr K

> > Ganpathy on the basis of events. POB is N. Delhi (latitude 28-37)

> > > Regards

> > > Sujata

> > >

> > > --- On Sun, 10/5/09, OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy@ ..> wrote:

> > >

> > > OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy@ ..>

> > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP

> > > @gro

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> > > Sunday, 10 May, 2009, 8:15 PM

> > >

> > > Dear Group Members,

> > >

> > > 5th chart 7female now discussed as 5th email.

> > >

> > > @gro

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> > " OVN MURTHY " <ovnmurthy@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Group Members,

> > > >

> > > > 4th chart Quiz 5 wife's chart now discussed as 4th email.

> > > >

> > > > As the members are aware that Sri Dhanabalan ji has given 10 charts

> > with birth details and marriage details wherein he claimed that the 4 fold

> > DBAS have not connected to 2,7,11 as per the KP Rules, however marriages

> > have taken place. In this connection he requested the members to offer their

> > comments on this issue where KP rules have failed. NOW I AM ATTEMPTING THE

> > FOURTH CHART OF QUIZ 5 WIFE'S CHART.

> > > >

> > > > The FOURTH chart was 5Quiz5Wife.pdf was loaded in the files section in

> > separate folder viz. 10 Marriage DBA 4 Fold. In this file the second page

> > indicates my findings how the marriage has taken place in the DBA

> > Ve-Ju-Sa-Ve, who are significators of 2,7,11 as given in the 1st page with

> > bold and underlined. The s/w used is Future Point. leogold of sri Arun

> > Bansal of NewDelhi.

> > > >

> > > > Jupiter is l/o 1n10 in 8th Libra in Swathi- Rahu in 12th Sat rasi lord

> > who is in 2nd and 11th lord unoccupied, 12 occupied by Rahu. Jupiter sub is

> > Saturn who is in 2nd as lord of 11th, in Venus star a karaka for marriage.

> > Venus DasaLord in Mer star and Sat sub strong significator for marriage.

> > Bhukthi lord Jupiter as said above and being Retro he is weak at 1n10

> > ownership and the next house is strong as per Astro secrets i.e. 2n11 house

> > in 8th. Anthara and Sookshama are Sat n Ven both are strong significators.

> > Here Jup sublord speaks Saturn for giving Marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Further charts will be analyzed one after another and will be sent to

> > the group. Plz go thru the files section whenin I have kept this pdf file

> > viz. 5quiz5Wife.pdf in Directory 10 Marriage DBAS 4 Fold. I came to know

> > some members who are not very conversant with systems are unable to go to

> > the files section to download the pdf files. Hence I request the Moderator

> > to do the needful.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > OVN Murthy, M.Com.FCS, ICWAI, PGDPA.

> > > > Company Secretary

> > > > Nizam Sugards Limited,

> > > > Bashirbagh, Hyderabad 13. Ph. 040-23232212, res. 27405975

> > > > Mob. 94417 78427

> > > > www.saibhavishyavan i.com ovnmurthy@

> > > >

> > > > @gro

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> > " OVN MURTHY " <ovnmurthy@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Group Members,

> > > > >

> > > > > 3rd chart Dhanabalan's Friend now discussed as 3rd email.

> > > > >

> > > > > As the members are aware that Sri Dhanabalan ji has given 10 charts

> > with birth details and marriage details wherein he claimed that the 4 fold

> > DBAS have not connected to 2,7,11 as per the KP Rules, however marriages

> > have taken place. In this connection he requested the members to offer their

> > comments on this issue where KP rules have failed. NOW I AM ATTEMPTING THE

> > THIRD CHART OF HIS FRIEND.

> > > > >

> > > > > The THIRD chart was 4.Dhanabalan Friend.pdf was loaded in the files

> > section in separate folder viz. 10 Marriage DBA 4 Fold. In this file the

> > second page indicates my findings how the marriage has taken place in the

> > DBA Su-Me-Me, who are significators of 2,7,11 as given in the 1st page with

> > bold and underlined. The s/w used is Future Point. leogold of sri Arun

> > Bansal of NewDelhi.

> > > > >

> > > > > 3rd chart 4Dhanabalan Friend.pdf

> > > > >

> > > > > 7th corulers Mo-Sa-Ra: Moon /Sat 7th significators. Rahu node in Sat

> > sign who is lord 2 in Moon star 7th lord; Present DBA, Sun-Mer-Me-Mar; Sun

> > in Rahu, Mer in Rahu whose 7th sublord. Nodes r always strong. Mars sookshma

> > who is in Venus star karaka in 8th, Mars is lord of 11th . Hence there is no

> > negative connection to 7th csl and DBAS.

> > > > >

> > > > > Further charts will be analyzed one after another and will be sent to

> > the group. Plz go thru the files section whenin I have kept this pdf file

> > viz.1Dhanabalan Daughter.pdf in Directory 10 Marriage DBAS 4 Fold

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > >

> > > > > OVN Murthy, M.Com.FCS, ICWAI, PGDPA.

> > > > > Company Secretary

> > > > > Nizam Sugards Limited,

> > > > > Bashirbagh, Hyderabad 13. Ph. 040-23232212, res. 27405975

> > > > > Mob. 94417 78427

> > > > > www.saibhavishyavan i.com ovnmurthy@

> > > > >

> > > > > @gro

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m>,

> > Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Members

> > > > > > No one has clarified my doubt so far.

> > > > > > How we are fixing DBA for marriage?

> > > > > > As per KP, the DBA is selected from 2,7,11 house significators. I

> > have proved that about 40% of the cases, marriage is celebrated in the DBA

> > which is not the significators of 2,7,11 houses. In support of my statement,

> > I have already posted 12 charts about two months back. There was no comment

> > from seniors about those charts till now. Please confirm first whether the

> > system we are following to arrive the DBA from primary significators is

> > correct.

> > > > > > Some may suggest to add 5th and 8th houses for marriage.

> > > > > > Some may tell that 8th house is for divorce.

> > > > > > In general, for any event, there must be one main house and two

> > supporting houses. More than two supporting houses may lead to confusion.

> > > > > > Dhanabalan.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Thu, 4/30/09, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ >

> > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ >

> > > > > > Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP

> > > > > > @gro

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> >

> > > > > > Thursday, April 30, 2009, 7:56 AM

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear all members,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am a new member of your group. I too feel that we must consider

> > DBA to work out the date of the happening. Without DBA the system may work

> > only half which is ultimately of no use.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Vishram Deshpande

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Wed, 29/4/09, Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>

> > > > > > Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP

> > > > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > > > Wednesday, 29 April, 2009, 10:39 AM

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Sri Murthygaru,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > An excellent clarification. As you say it may work out correctly by

> > using RPs for minor events. I don't know how far it will work out for major

> > events without appling DBA.

> > > > > > My warmth appreciation for your research mindedness.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > OVN MURTHY

> > > > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > > > Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:25 PM

> > > > > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Sri Konthala P Naidu/ Sri KSV Ramani ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The following is the line given by Sri Dhanbalan ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using

> > DBA? "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As said by Sri Ramani; Sri Dhanbalan was born in Rahu- lagna

> > sublord in Sagi Asc. Rahu is in Venus star who is lord of 5n10 on 9th cusp

> > orb and I hope that is why he puts very tough ideas where it requires

> > analytical thinking and create no thoughts on this subject as said by Sri

> > KSK ji to do research more on diferent concepts.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It seems he might attended the astrology seminar conducted recently

> > in Chennai.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > According to my mind in KP u will know the results of each birth

> > chart by identifying the sublords and significators of various houses, then

> > u will apply the same to the DBA to identify when it will take place ( in

> > case more significtors then ur using the RPs to filter the significators) as

> > said by Sri Naidu, Vizag.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now this new idea of Sri Dhanbalan is without going to DBA only by

> > RPs who are the significators of the concerned Bhavas would give the result

> > on the concerned bhava on the day Where the RPs are matching with bhava.

> > This principle I am following since a long time. This is meant for small

> > events but not for big events, which are very limited events in life time.

> > such as marriage, birth of children, etc.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > e.g. I see the RPs of 1. DayLord 2. Moon sign lord 3. Moon Star

> > Lord

> > > > > > at this juncture I verify whether these 3 RPs are connected to my

> > 2nd house, 6 or 11, then I will see the other 2 RPs Ascendant signlord and

> > Asc.. starlord whether it is operating in the normal working hours (not

> > being early morning or after 9pm of the day) during that time I used to get

> > my client or somebody visits and gives some money to me. This is one way of

> > testing RP with petty events but not for big things where I have to see the

> > DBA also invariably. This wonder predictions can work successfully with the

> > help of RPS as said by Guruji.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > > OVN MURTHY HYDERABAD 94417 78427/ 23232212

> > > > > >

> > > > > > @gro ups.com, " Ramani " <kadavasalramani@>

wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Sri Naidu,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Pl. don't underestimate Sri R.Dhanabalan for his query on

> > > > > > > DBA. He has raised this query with some specific purpose

> > > > > > > and reason. It is because, one gentleman posing himsel as a

> > revolutionist has delivered lecture with many shortcut ideas, in which he

> > has asserted that the DBAs are of no use for deciding event; instead he

> > insists for applying RPs.

> > > > > > > On this, Sri Dhanabalan, it seems has initiated a debate

> > > > > > > on this subject. Let us watch his further observations. .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani

> > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > K. P. Naidu

> > > > > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > > > > Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:28 PM

> > > > > > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Mr.Dhanabalan<

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It is surprising to find such a question from you having good

> > knowledge of the subject of KP.

> > > > > > > DBAS method is for predicting the timing of event. whether the

> > event is promised or not is not dependent on DBAS. All this you may be

> > knowing. Then why you have put such a question ? what exactly you expect

> > from the members ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks & Regds.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Naidu KP

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > K. P. Naidu,

> > > > > > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,

> > > > > > > Nowroji Road,

> > > > > > > Maharanipeta,

> > > > > > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.

> > > > > > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- On Mon, 20/4/09, ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...>

> > > > > > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP

> > > > > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > > > > Monday, 20 April, 2009, 6:10 PM

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Dhanabalan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Correct prediction in KP can be given without DBA but the timing

> > of the event predicted will require DBA.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > Ajoy

> > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > Dhanabalan R

> > > > > > > kpsystem groups

> > > > > > > Monday, April 20, 2009 8:39 AM

> > > > > > > Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Members

> > > > > > > Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using

> > DBA?

> > > > > > > Dhanabalan

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May 18, 2009

Dear Sujata ji,

Thanks for analysis, all the while I was wondering why it did not occur in the

previous dasa of Ket or Mer, which were stronger significator of 2,7,11 and

Particularly Ketu being Node. Adith ji has clarified it.

Regarding Saving problem of charts I have not came across such complaint before.

I will analyze the same and may be in a day or Two You will Have Upgrade 9 on

the Net

Regards

Amitabh

, sujata das <sujatadash1 wrote:

>

> Dear Amitabh

> Ven is in the star of ketu.which is an agent of ju and sat, so will give their

rasults ju is lord of 7, 11 and sat is deposited in 7.

> Regarding KPSTAR ONE, I uninstalled 6.6.6, 8B and reinstalled them. But I

cannot save charts

> Would u kindly help

> Regards

> Sujata

>

> ________________________________

> amitabh srivastav <amitabhsoft

>

> Thursday, 14 May, 2009 7:13:25 PM

> Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP

>

> Respected Murthy ji,

>

> I am somehow in agreement with Sh Dhanbalan ji that 2,7,11 does not relate

with marriage in many cases. In my case (DOB 9-Aug-1960, 2:11 AM, Rai Bareli-

26N14, 81E16), the marriage took place in SAT-VEN_JUP period, the Venus has no

connection whatsoever with 2,7,11 in my chart. In fact it will be difficult to

tell correctly the marriage date within this period, if some one can attempt it.

>

> Let us organise some real research work by collecting say 50 charts and do

analysis to find out the common logic in predicting correctly the DBA relating

to such major event of the life.

>

> regards

> Amitabh

>

> --- On Tue, 5/12/09, OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

>

> OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

> Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP

> @gro ups.com

> Received: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 6:58 PM

>

> Dear Murthyji,

>

> Thanks a Million for the clarification through cases posted by Dhanabalanji.

Although in the given charts doubts are cleared I would like to know in my chart

why marriage took place in Merc/Sat Period.

>

> My Birth Details : Name: Nitin

> DOB: 13/03/1975 TOB: 23.25 POB: Bhusawal/Bhusaval

>

> About Me: I have studied KP & Vedic astrology from my guru Shri. Dharmarajan

from Coimbatore(Unfortun ately he passed away in 2002)

> Studying astrology since 15 years. I found KP astrology more accurate in

Horary than Natal Chart.

>

> Best Regards,

> Nitin

>

> Answer by Sri OVN Murthy Hyd. The file Nitin.pdf was already uploaded in the

files section together with my comments for the event on 1st n 2nd pages.

>

> Mer Sat Marriage: Mer is 7th csl l/o 8n11 in 3 in the star Ma-Ve â€ " Mars 1n6

in 3, Ve 7n12 in 5 which is favourable sublord. Sat as l/o 3n4 in 8 in Ra-Mo â€ "

Rahu in 1 (mars sg lord) in Sat star who is in 8th. Sublord Moon as l/o 9th in 4

in Sat star 8th. From many charts at the time of marriage we are also finding a

new house involvement (5/8) apart from 2,7,11 significators. I found in my

practical cases where during 6n12 significators involvement would bring,

handicapped, divorcees, widows, etc. with some flaw in the spouse, ur

compromising on that issue when those significators r inovled in giving marriage

to the native.

>

> WITH THIS I AM CLOSING THIS TOPIC OF SRI DHANBALAN ON 4 FOLD DBA DOES NOT

INDICATE THE SIGNIFICATION OF 2,7,11 FOR MARRIAGE. IN THIS CONNECTION IT IS

SUBMITTED THAT THE 4 FOLD SIGNIFICATORS IS FIRST THEORY AT THE TIME OF KP

FOUNDATION BY STALWARTS.

> SUBSEQUENTLY AFTER LOT OF RESEARCH AND OBSERVATIONS IN PRACTICAL CASES THESE

RULES MODIFIED TO SOME EXTENT WHERE SIGNIFICATORS OF 5 AND 8, SECOND MARRIAGE

9TH HOUSE ALSO, IN BAD MATCHES (WIDOWS, DIVORCEES, HANDICAPPED) 6N12 ARE ALSO

OPERATING. THE CORULERS OF 7TH HOUSE WHEREIN SIGN LORD, STAR LORD, SUB LORD IS

ALSO TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT FOR THIS DETERMINATION. WHEN NODE IS INVOLVED

STILL WE HAVE TO GO DEEP TO SEE THE ACTUAL CONNECTIONS THE NODE IS HAVING IN

GIVING THE MARRIAGE. THIS REQUIRES LOT OF RESEARCH WHICH WAS ALREADY DONE BY

MANY SENIORS BUT IT WAS NOT PUBLISHED HENCE MANY PEOPLE ARE NOT AWARE OF THIS.

ONLY NOW IT IS AVAILABLE BECAZ OF THIS /FORUMS. THANKS FOR THE FORUM

FOR BRINGING ALL THE NEW AREAS INTO FOR DISCUSSION.

>

> Regards

>

> OVN Murthy, M.Com.FCS, ICWAI, PGDPA.

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>

> @gro ups.com, " OVN MURTHY " <ovnmurthy@ ..> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Members,

> >

> > while answering Sri Dhanbalan's 10 charts I recd the requisition from Smt.

Sujathadas IAS reg. her horoscope where Marriage DBA does not tally with the 4

fold Method. hence this reply. the file is uploaded in files division as

Sujathadas IAS.pdf

> >

> > Dear Madam,

> > The answer is as follows:

> > Marriage was performed in Jupiter Dasa who is in 8th as l/o 2n4 in his own

star, Sublord Moon in Rahu star who is 7th csl. Mercury is in 6th as l/o 8n10 in

Sun's star who is lord of 9 in 5 is favourable for marriage. However the dates

of Mercury is in border of one 1week upto 23.4.79 marriage is on 14.4.79 if a

small shift in dasa balance would shift it to Kethu who is in 7th bhava in Mars

star who is starlord of 7th cusp. Hence not much difference.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > ovn murthy

> >

> > -

> > sujata das

> > @gro ups.com

> > Cc: ovnmurthy@ .

> > Monday, May 11, 2009 12:41 PM

> > Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP

> >

> > Dear Mr Murthy

> > Would you tell me how I got married in mer bhukti when it does not signify 2

7 11.

> > My dob is 5-5-55, tob is 9-37 pm, as rectified by Dr Kar and Mr K Ganpathy

on the basis of events. POB is N. Delhi (latitude 28-37)

> > Regards

> > Sujata

> >

> > --- On Sun, 10/5/09, OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy@ ..> wrote:

> >

> > OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy@ ..>

> > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP

> > @gro ups.com

> > Sunday, 10 May, 2009, 8:15 PM

> >

> > Dear Group Members,

> >

> > 5th chart 7female now discussed as 5th email.

> >

> > @gro ups.com, " OVN MURTHY " <ovnmurthy@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Group Members,

> > >

> > > 4th chart Quiz 5 wife's chart now discussed as 4th email.

> > >

> > > As the members are aware that Sri Dhanabalan ji has given 10 charts with

birth details and marriage details wherein he claimed that the 4 fold DBAS have

not connected to 2,7,11 as per the KP Rules, however marriages have taken place.

In this connection he requested the members to offer their comments on this

issue where KP rules have failed. NOW I AM ATTEMPTING THE FOURTH CHART OF QUIZ 5

WIFE'S CHART.

> > >

> > > The FOURTH chart was 5Quiz5Wife.pdf was loaded in the files section in

separate folder viz. 10 Marriage DBA 4 Fold. In this file the second page

indicates my findings how the marriage has taken place in the DBA Ve-Ju-Sa-Ve,

who are significators of 2,7,11 as given in the 1st page with bold and

underlined. The s/w used is Future Point. leogold of sri Arun Bansal of

NewDelhi.

> > >

> > > Jupiter is l/o 1n10 in 8th Libra in Swathi- Rahu in 12th Sat rasi lord who

is in 2nd and 11th lord unoccupied, 12 occupied by Rahu. Jupiter sub is Saturn

who is in 2nd as lord of 11th, in Venus star a karaka for marriage. Venus

DasaLord in Mer star and Sat sub strong significator for marriage. Bhukthi lord

Jupiter as said above and being Retro he is weak at 1n10 ownership and the next

house is strong as per Astro secrets i.e. 2n11 house in 8th. Anthara and

Sookshama are Sat n Ven both are strong significators. Here Jup sublord speaks

Saturn for giving Marriage.

> > >

> > > Further charts will be analyzed one after another and will be sent to the

group. Plz go thru the files section whenin I have kept this pdf file viz.

5quiz5Wife.pdf in Directory 10 Marriage DBAS 4 Fold. I came to know some members

who are not very conversant with systems are unable to go to the files section

to download the pdf files. Hence I request the Moderator to do the needful.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > OVN Murthy, M.Com.FCS, ICWAI, PGDPA.

> > > Company Secretary

> > > Nizam Sugards Limited,

> > > Bashirbagh, Hyderabad 13. Ph. 040-23232212, res. 27405975

> > > Mob. 94417 78427

> > > www.saibhavishyavan i.com ovnmurthy@

> > >

> > > @gro ups.com, " OVN MURTHY " <ovnmurthy@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Group Members,

> > > >

> > > > 3rd chart Dhanabalan's Friend now discussed as 3rd email.

> > > >

> > > > As the members are aware that Sri Dhanabalan ji has given 10 charts with

birth details and marriage details wherein he claimed that the 4 fold DBAS have

not connected to 2,7,11 as per the KP Rules, however marriages have taken place.

In this connection he requested the members to offer their comments on this

issue where KP rules have failed. NOW I AM ATTEMPTING THE THIRD CHART OF HIS

FRIEND.

> > > >

> > > > The THIRD chart was 4.Dhanabalan Friend.pdf was loaded in the files

section in separate folder viz. 10 Marriage DBA 4 Fold. In this file the second

page indicates my findings how the marriage has taken place in the DBA Su-Me-Me,

who are significators of 2,7,11 as given in the 1st page with bold and

underlined. The s/w used is Future Point. leogold of sri Arun Bansal of

NewDelhi.

> > > >

> > > > 3rd chart 4Dhanabalan Friend.pdf

> > > >

> > > > 7th corulers Mo-Sa-Ra: Moon /Sat 7th significators. Rahu node in Sat

sign who is lord 2 in Moon star 7th lord; Present DBA, Sun-Mer-Me-Mar; Sun in

Rahu, Mer in Rahu whose 7th sublord. Nodes r always strong. Mars sookshma who is

in Venus star karaka in 8th, Mars is lord of 11th . Hence there is no negative

connection to 7th csl and DBAS.

> > > >

> > > > Further charts will be analyzed one after another and will be sent to

the group. Plz go thru the files section whenin I have kept this pdf file

viz.1Dhanabalan Daughter.pdf in Directory 10 Marriage DBAS 4 Fold

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > OVN Murthy, M.Com.FCS, ICWAI, PGDPA.

> > > > Company Secretary

> > > > Nizam Sugards Limited,

> > > > Bashirbagh, Hyderabad 13. Ph. 040-23232212, res. 27405975

> > > > Mob. 94417 78427

> > > > www.saibhavishyavan i.com ovnmurthy@

> > > >

> > > > @gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Members

> > > > > No one has clarified my doubt so far.

> > > > > How we are fixing DBA for marriage?

> > > > > As per KP, the DBA is selected from 2,7,11 house significators. I have

proved that about 40% of the cases, marriage is celebrated in the DBA which is

not the significators of 2,7,11 houses. In support of my statement, I have

already posted 12 charts about two months back. There was no comment from

seniors about those charts till now. Please confirm first whether the system we

are following to arrive the DBA from primary significators is correct.

> > > > > Some may suggest to add 5th and 8th houses for marriage.

> > > > > Some may tell that 8th house is for divorce.

> > > > > In general, for any event, there must be one main house and two

supporting houses. More than two supporting houses may lead to confusion.

> > > > > Dhanabalan.

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Thu, 4/30/09, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ >

> > > > > Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP

> > > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > > Thursday, April 30, 2009, 7:56 AM

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear all members,

> > > > >

> > > > > I am a new member of your group. I too feel that we must consider DBA

to work out the date of the happening. Without DBA the system may work only half

which is ultimately of no use.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > >

> > > > > Vishram Deshpande

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Wed, 29/4/09, Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>

> > > > > Re: Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP

> > > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > > Wednesday, 29 April, 2009, 10:39 AM

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sri Murthygaru,

> > > > >

> > > > > An excellent clarification. As you say it may work out correctly by

using RPs for minor events. I don't know how far it will work out for major

events without appling DBA.

> > > > > My warmth appreciation for your research mindedness.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > K.S.V.Ramani

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > OVN MURTHY

> > > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > > Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:25 PM

> > > > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sri Konthala P Naidu/ Sri KSV Ramani ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > The following is the line given by Sri Dhanbalan ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > " Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA? "

> > > > >

> > > > > As said by Sri Ramani; Sri Dhanbalan was born in Rahu- lagna sublord

in Sagi Asc. Rahu is in Venus star who is lord of 5n10 on 9th cusp orb and I

hope that is why he puts very tough ideas where it requires analytical thinking

and create no thoughts on this subject as said by Sri KSK ji to do research more

on diferent concepts.

> > > > >

> > > > > It seems he might attended the astrology seminar conducted recently in

Chennai.

> > > > >

> > > > > According to my mind in KP u will know the results of each birth chart

by identifying the sublords and significators of various houses, then u will

apply the same to the DBA to identify when it will take place ( in case more

significtors then ur using the RPs to filter the significators) as said by Sri

Naidu, Vizag.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now this new idea of Sri Dhanbalan is without going to DBA only by RPs

who are the significators of the concerned Bhavas would give the result on the

concerned bhava on the day Where the RPs are matching with bhava. This principle

I am following since a long time. This is meant for small events but not for big

events, which are very limited events in life time. such as marriage, birth of

children, etc.

> > > > >

> > > > > e.g. I see the RPs of 1. DayLord 2. Moon sign lord 3. Moon Star Lord

> > > > > at this juncture I verify whether these 3 RPs are connected to my 2nd

house, 6 or 11, then I will see the other 2 RPs Ascendant signlord and Asc..

starlord whether it is operating in the normal working hours (not being early

morning or after 9pm of the day) during that time I used to get my client or

somebody visits and gives some money to me. This is one way of testing RP with

petty events but not for big things where I have to see the DBA also invariably.

This wonder predictions can work successfully with the help of RPS as said by

Guruji.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > >

> > > > > OVN MURTHY HYDERABAD 94417 78427/ 23232212

> > > > >

> > > > > @gro ups.com, " Ramani " <kadavasalramani@ ...>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Sri Naidu,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Pl. don't underestimate Sri R.Dhanabalan for his query on

> > > > > > DBA. He has raised this query with some specific purpose

> > > > > > and reason. It is because, one gentleman posing himsel as a

revolutionist has delivered lecture with many shortcut ideas, in which he has

asserted that the DBAs are of no use for deciding event; instead he insists for

applying RPs.

> > > > > > On this, Sri Dhanabalan, it seems has initiated a debate

> > > > > > on this subject. Let us watch his further observations. .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > K. P. Naidu

> > > > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > > > Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:28 PM

> > > > > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Mr.Dhanabalan<

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It is surprising to find such a question from you having good

knowledge of the subject of KP.

> > > > > > DBAS method is for predicting the timing of event. whether the event

is promised or not is not dependent on DBAS. All this you may be knowing. Then

why you have put such a question ? what exactly you expect from the members ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks & Regds.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Naidu KP

> > > > > >

> > > > > > K. P. Naidu,

> > > > > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,

> > > > > > Nowroji Road,

> > > > > > Maharanipeta,

> > > > > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.

> > > > > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Mon, 20/4/09, ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...>

> > > > > > Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP

> > > > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > > > Monday, 20 April, 2009, 6:10 PM

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Dhanabalan

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Correct prediction in KP can be given without DBA but the timing of

the event predicted will require DBA.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > Ajoy

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > Dhanabalan R

> > > > > > kpsystem groups

> > > > > > Monday, April 20, 2009 8:39 AM

> > > > > > Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Members

> > > > > > Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA?

> > > > > > Dhanabalan

> > > > > >

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Dear Amitabh ji,Welcome! With RegardsAdithOn Tue, May 19, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Amitabh <amitabhsoft wrote:

Dear Seniors

Thanks to all for the analysis. Thank you Adith ji for explaining why it did not happen during previous Dasas of Mer (stronly signifying 7 & 2) or Ketu (signtfying 7 & 11). As these were strong contenders of 2,7,11. As I understood from KP books that if the node represent a planet then we have to take NODE as these were considered stronger, but vice versa can also be true was never considered by me.

regards

Amitabh

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