Guest guest Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Respected Sir, Pranam. I new entrant to this group. I m also trying the quiz for practice. My take is it is the last one ie C since all RPs match DBAS. Please guide. Regards. Kamal Sent: Thursday, 30 April, 2009 11:00:05 AM Digest Number 2824[2 Attachments] Krishnamurti Paddhati (K. P. System) Messages In This Digest (25 Messages) 1a. IPL started with bad experience Vinod Verma 1b. Re: IPL started with bad experience Luther Rath 2a. IPL RESULT 2009 Vinod Verma 2b. Re: IPL RESULT 2009 Luther Rath 3a. Re: Theft AK Mishra 3b. Re: Theft AK Mishra 3c. Re: Theft Luther Rath 3d. Re: Theft Luther Rath 3e. Re: Theft vgr pavan 4a. Re: QUIZ-7 WHO IS HIS BABY? NO DNA TEST REQUIRED!!! adith kasinath.g.k 4b. Re: QUIZ-7 WHO IS HIS BABY? NO DNA TEST REQUIRED!!! adith kasinath.g.k 4c. Re: QUIZ-7 WHO IS HIS BABY? NO DNA TEST REQUIRED!!! adith kasinath.g.k 5a. Re: 5th Reader 1971 edition Dhanabalan R 5b. 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IPL started with bad experience Posted by: "Vinod Verma" vinodverma236 vinodverma236 Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:31 am (PDT) Dear Luthar Ji,NamaskarOn 19/apr/2009 at 14.16.09 in bhopal,Icast a chart for No-108.Wish Delhi Win11th Sublord was Saturn and it was retrogade and deposited in Venus as Starlord andJupiter as Sublord deposited in 5th house as a lord of 4th and 7th house both shows thevictory of opponent and my wish was not satisfy with planets location..I Predict Delhi will loose this match,but result was just opposite and delhi wins.My doubt is that-If 11th sublord is retrogade the result should be negative,but it was +vePls clear me,Where Iam Wrong?Best RegardsVinod Verma Explore your hobbies and interests. Go to http://in.promos. / groups/ Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (2) 1b. Re: IPL started with bad experience Posted by: "Luther Rath" rathluther rathluther Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:29 pm (PDT) Dear Vinod,Retrogression of the sub lord of XI does not negate the result. But if it occupies a constellation of sub of a retrograde planet then the result is adverse. I would also suggest to find out Moon's constellation lord at the time of match or at the fag end of it. Then find out to which team the constellation lord is supporting. This finding may help in confirming or otherwise, your prediction.Dr. Rath.____________ _________ _________ __Vinod Verma <vinodverma236@ .in>@gro ups.comWednesday, April 29, 2009 12:11:12 AM IPL started with bad experienceDear Luthar Ji,NamaskarOn 19/apr/2009 at 14.16.09 in bhopal,Icast a chart for No-108.Wish Delhi Win11th Sublord was Saturn and it was retrogade and deposited in Venus as Starlord andJupiter as Sublord deposited in 5th house as a lord of 4th and 7th house both shows thevictory of opponent and my wish was not satisfy with planets location.I Predict Delhi will loose this match,but result was just opposite and delhi wins.My doubt is that-If 11th sublord is retrogade the result should be negative,but it was +vePls clear me,Where Iam Wrong?Best RegardsVinod Verma ____________ _________ _________ __Now surf faster and smarter ! Check out the new Firefox 3 - Edition * Click here! Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (2) 2a. IPL RESULT 2009 Posted by: "Vinod Verma" vinodverma236 vinodverma236 Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:32 am (PDT) Dear Luthar Ji,NamaskarOn 28/apr/2009 at 20.25.39 in bhopal,No-165 and my wish Rajasthan to win against Delhi11th Sl was Moon and it is deposited in Mars as Starlord and Mercury as Sublord.Mercuryis deposited in 6th house as a lord of (8 & 10)th lord.Here 6th and 10th shows victory over opponent and famous in their undertaking. My Result-POSITIVE. Best RegardsVinod VermaNow surf faster and smarter ! Check out the new Firefox 3 - Edition http://downloads. / in/firefox/ ?fr=om_email_ firefox Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (2) 2b. Re: IPL RESULT 2009 Posted by: "Luther Rath" rathluther rathluther Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:28 pm (PDT) Who won the match please? Please review the chart after the match is over.Dr. Rath.____________ _________ _________ __Vinod Verma <vinodverma236@ .in>@gro ups.comTuesday, April 28, 2009 11:52:06 PM IPL RESULT 2009Dear Luthar Ji,NamaskarOn 28/apr/2009 at 20.25.39 in bhopal,No-165 and my wish Rajasthan to win against Delhi11th Sl was Moon and it is deposited in Mars as Starlord and Mercury as Sublord.Mercuryis deposited in 6th house as a lord of (8 & 10)th lord.Here 6th and 10th shows victory over opponent and famous in their undertaking. My Result-POSITIVE. Best RegardsVinod Verma ____________ _________ _________ __Now surf faster and smarter ! Check out the new Firefox 3 - Edition * Click here! Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (2) 3a. Re: Theft Posted by: "AK Mishra" akmishra63 akmishra63 Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:33 am (PDT) Dear Sujata ji Mothers imigination is more than any astrological analysis, so dont be bias and when you are bias , you will be not able to analsyed any astrological problems. RegardsAK Mishra+416 519 1209--- On Mon, 4/27/09, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> wrote:sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> Theft"kp system" <@gro ups.com>Received: Monday, April 27, 2009, 5:22 AMOn 25-4-09, car stereo was stolen.Horary no. 172 on 26-4-09 at 14-47-18hrs to identify the thief. The 7th CSL, sun in 4 in the star of ke in 8, signifying mo in 5, sa in 9,l/o 2 3 ( both occupiedCould it be my son?5thCSL is ra in2, agent of sa in 9, in mo star and sub in 5.RegardsSujataNow surf faster and smarter ! Check out the new Firefox 3 - Edition http://downloads. / in/firefox/ ?fr=om_email_ firefox Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (15) 3b.. Re: Theft Posted by: "AK Mishra" akmishra63 akmishra63 Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:33 am (PDT) Dear All Really in this forum , I see very interesting topics , but I am not good in KP astrology, but I am enjoying all discussions. Thanks AK Mishra+416 519 1209--- On Tue, 4/28/09, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> wrote:sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>Re: Theft@gro ups.comReceived: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 10:55 AMThankyou.Dr Rath.On page 226-227, the same book looks at the sublord to determine the sex of the thief. Sun is the 7thCSL so he is male..If we look at its star lord, ketu, who is agent of moon and sa ( both in male signs), so male again.Since the 7th significator also signifies 10th and 5th cusps, the thief has respectable circumstances.Once, my brother's property file was stolen. Clues given by me about the thief by analysing 7thCSL enabled him to recover his file. It was published in AstrovisionRegardsSujataLuther Rath <rathluther>@gTh ankyou, Mr EktareRegardsSujataroups. comTuesday, 28 April, 2009 11:16:01 AMRe: Theft Respected Madam,I quote from page No.234, Horary Astrology, 2002."Lagna indicates the querist, whose property is stolen. Seventh house indicates the thief.Page No. 235: If the Seventh house lord is connected with 6th and 9th the thief has gone to a nearby place. ----- But if the seventh lord is connected with 3 and 6 house, he has gone to a far far away place" I would like to point out that KSK has not considered the 7th sub-lord but the lord of the house.Page 54: An illustration from writing of Mr. Llewellyn George."The ruler of 7th house (the thief) was the Moon and it was in the fourth house. So I informed her, `the person who took it was a woman and is right now if the building where you reside´." In this context KSK has not commented adversely. Hence the lord of 7th house represents the thief. It´s not the sub lord. What is there in the mind of the querist?Moon is lord of VIII. That is loss for the querist and gain to the opponent. Moon occupies V indicating the thing is related to entertainment or amusement.. Moon is in the constellation of Sun occupant of IV. It indicates a thing related to building or a vehicle. Since Sun owns IX the article should be related with journey, now pin-pointing a vehicle. Moon is in the sub of Mars owner of XII indicating loss to the native.Scrutinizing all the above findings the question is quite clear.Identification of the thief:VII lord is Mercury and therefore Mercury represents the thief. Mercury is aspected by Jupiter (5th aspect); and by Saturn (10th aspect). Therefore the person is of average health in middle age. He is very intelligent and notorious as well. Since Saturn is in IX, the person is a stranger, not related or known to you. Mercury occupies V house. This indicates that at the time judgment the thief was in a house of entertainment or in a shopping complex dealing with such articles. It does not confirm the he is any way related to you. With regards.Dr. Rath.sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>kp system <@ gro ups.com>Monday, April 27, 2009 2:52:01 PM TheftOn 25-4-09, car stereo was stolen.Horary no. 172 on 26-4-09 at 14-47-18hrs to identify the thief. The 7th CSL, sun in 4 in the star of ke in 8, signifying mo in 5, sa in 9,l/o 2 3 ( both occupiedCould it be my son?5thCSL is ra in2, agent of sa in 9, in mo star and sub in 5.RegardsSujataNow surf faster and smarter ! Check out the new Firefox 3 - Edition http://downloads. / in/firefox/ ?fr=om_email_ firefoxNow surf faster and smarter ! Check out the new Firefox 3 - Edition * Click here! Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (15) 3c.. Re: Theft Posted by: "Luther Rath" rathluther rathluther Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:34 am (PDT) Thank you Madam for supplimenting and sharing your experience. I shall remember to attempt through your procedure in future.Thank you once more.Dr. Rath____________ _________ _________ __sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>@gro ups.comTuesday, April 28, 2009 8:25:24 PMRe: TheftThankyou.Dr Rath.On page 226-227, the same book looks at the sublord to determine the sex of the thief. Sun is the 7thCSL so he is male.If we look at its star lord, ketu, who is agent of moon and sa ( both in male signs), so male again.Since the 7th significator also signifies 10th and 5th cusps, the thief has respectable circumstances.Once, my brother's property file was stolen. Clues given by me about the thief by analysing 7thCSL enabled him to recover his file. It was published in AstrovisionRegardsSujata____________ _________ _________ __Luther Rath <rathluther>@gTh ankyou, Mr EktareRegardsSujataroups. comTuesday, 28 April, 2009 11:16:01 AMRe: Theft Respected Madam,I quote from page No.234, Horary Astrology, 2002."Lagna indicates the querist, whose property is stolen. Seventh house indicates the thief.Page No. 235: If the Seventh house lord is connected with 6th and 9th the thief has gone to a nearby place. ----- But if the seventh lord is connected with 3 and 6 house, he has gone to a far far away place" I would like to point out that KSK has not considered the 7th sub-lord but the lord of the house.Page 54: An illustration from writing of Mr. Llewellyn George."The ruler of 7th house (the thief) was the Moon and it was in the fourth house. So I informed her, `the person who took it was a woman and is right now if the building where you reside´." In this context KSK has not commented adversely. Hence the lord of 7th house represents the thief. It´s not the sub lord. What is there in the mind of the querist?Moon is lord of VIII. That is loss for the querist and gain to the opponent. Moon occupies V indicating the thing is related to entertainment or amusement.. Moon is in the constellation of Sun occupant of IV. It indicates a thing related to building or a vehicle. Since Sun owns IX the article should be related with journey, now pin-pointing a vehicle. Moon is in the sub of Mars owner of XII indicating loss to the native.Scrutinizing all the above findings the question is quite clear.Identification of the thief:VII lord is Mercury and therefore Mercury represents the thief. Mercury is aspected by Jupiter (5th aspect); and by Saturn (10th aspect). Therefore the person is of average health in middle age. He is very intelligent and notorious as well. Since Saturn is in IX, the person is a stranger, not related or known to you. Mercury occupies V house. This indicates that at the time judgment the thief was in a house of entertainment or in a shopping complex dealing with such articles. It does not confirm the he is any way related to you. With regards.Dr. Rath.____________ _________ _________ __sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>kp system <@ gro ups.com>Monday, April 27, 2009 2:52:01 PM TheftOn 25-4-09, car stereo was stolen.Horary no. 172 on 26-4-09 at 14-47-18hrs to identify the thief. The 7th CSL, sun in 4 in the star of ke in 8, signifying mo in 5, sa in 9,l/o 2 3 ( both occupiedCould it be my son?5thCSL is ra in2, agent of sa in 9, in mo star and sub in 5.RegardsSujataNow surf faster and smarter ! Check out the new Firefox 3 - Edition http://downloads. / in/firefox/ ?fr=om_email_ firefox____________ _________ _________ __Now surf faster and smarter ! Check out the new Firefox 3 - Edition * Click here! Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (15) 3d.. Re: Theft Posted by: "Luther Rath" rathluther rathluther Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:34 am (PDT) Dear Adithji,Thanks. I usually follow the old editions. In another example KSK has considered the occupant of VII house to identify the thief. Now a days the sub lord is being given impprotance in most of the cases. So there is no harm in trying that way. We have to wait to see the percentage of correctness.With regards.Dr. Rath____________ _________ _________ __adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comTuesday, April 28, 2009 5:24:41 PMRe: TheftDear Dr.Luther,Yes!. What you said is correct! As per KSK the thief is described from 7th house (in his 3rd and 6th reader). But later others in the books have suggested the sublord.But the success of this is known only through any practical outcome!Thanks and RegardsAdithOn Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Luther Rath <rathluther> wrote: Respected Madam,I quote from page No.234, Horary Astrology, 2002."Lagna indicates the querist, whose property is stolen. Seventh house indicates the thief.Page No. 235: If the Seventh house lord is connected with 6th and 9th the thief has gone to a nearby place. ----- But if the seventh lord is connected with 3 and 6 house, he has gone to a far far away place" I would like to point out that KSK has not considered the 7th sub-lord but the lord of the house..Page 54: An illustration from writing of Mr. Llewellyn George."The ruler of 7th house (the thief) was the Moon and it was in the fourth house. So I informed her, `the person who took it was a woman and is right now if the building where you reside´." In this context KSK has not commented adversely. Hence the lord of 7th house represents the thief. It´s not the sub lord. What is there in the mind of the querist?Moon is lord of VIII. That is loss for the querist and gain to the opponent. Moon occupies V indicating the thing is related to entertainment or amusement.. Moon is in the constellation of Sun occupant of IV. It indicates a thing related to building or a vehicle. Since Sun owns IX the article should be related with journey, now pin-pointing a vehicle. Moon is in the sub of Mars owner of XII indicating loss to the native.Scrutinizing all the above findings the question is quite clear.Identification of the thief:VII lord is Mercury and therefore Mercury represents the thief. Mercury is aspected by Jupiter (5th aspect); and by Saturn (10th aspect). Therefore the person is of average health in middle age. He is very intelligent and notorious as well.. Since Saturn is in IX, the person is a stranger, not related or known to you. Mercury occupies V house. This indicates that at the time judgment the thief was in a house of entertainment or in a shopping complex dealing with such articles. It does not confirm the he is any way related to you. With regards.Dr. Rath.____________ _________ _________ __sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>kp system <@ gro ups.com>Monday, April 27, 2009 2:52:01 PM TheftOn 25-4-09, car stereo was stolen.Horary no. 172 on 26-4-09 at 14-47-18hrs to identify the thief. The 7th CSL, sun in 4 in the star of ke in 8, signifying mo in 5, sa in 9,l/o 2 3 ( both occupiedCould it be my son?5thCSL is ra in2, agent of sa in 9, in mo star and sub in 5.RegardsSujataNow surf faster and smarter ! Check out the new Firefox 3 - Edition http://downloads. / in/firefox/ ?fr=om_email_ firefox Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (15) 3e.. Re: Theft Posted by: "vgr pavan" vgr_pavan1 vgr_pavan1 Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:48 am (PDT) Luther rathji pranam,For discription of thief KSK took 7th csl.......and for his relation with the querent and for his present location he took 7th significators, .Horary P.no.226 last para........ for information reproduced as follows:"According to me sublord of 7th cusp shows whether thief is young or old . Also the sublord indicates the sex of the thief ............ ......... ......" following this rule.. i judged the horary no. 172 on 29-04-2009 (AT) 14 (DOT) 58 hrs . 16.14 N, 80.38Ewith RP:Asc : sun venusmoon : merc rahuday : merc.7th csl moon in gemini a dual sign. in rahu star merc sub. merc the efiminite in female sign in sun star a male planet in a male sign. moon aspected by mars. i think more than one person is involved. one middle aged person and the other a teenaged one. relation with querent : moon l/o 8 in 7. rahu alone in moon star. rahu in 2 . moon in rahu star. rahu with 1,4 ;lord jupiter in 2.. So person known to sujathaji (1st house). moving closly with her family (2nd). residing in the same house or street (4th). Temporary worker (8th) .... present location of theif: moon in rahu star rahu(1,4) in moon (7)star .merc sub l/o 10.....connected with angles so he is still in the same place where he previously was. lost property : 8th cusp. sub lord merc in sun star and own sub.. sun in 5 l/o9. sun in venus star and sub. mercury for hearing.. 5th for music......venus with mars l/o5 denotes elotronic device related to music..Recovery possible: 6th csl moon in merc sub . merc in sun star. both merc and sun in 5th (11th 7th). 11th csl is also merc in sun star merc sub so strong 5th,... hence no chance...... .May be i am wrong learned members enlighten me.........Guruji bless us all.regards .VGR e, 28/4/09, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote:Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: Theft@gro ups.comTuesday, 28 April, 2009, 11:16 AM Respected Madam, I quote from page No.234, Horary Astrology, 2002. "Lagna indicates the querist, whose property is stolen. Seventh house indicates the thief. Page No. 235: If the Seventh house lord is connected with 6th and 9th the thief has gone to a nearby place. ----- But if the seventh lord is connected with 3 and 6 house, he has gone to a far far away place" I would like to point out that KSK has not considered the 7th sub-lord but the lord of the house. Page 54: An illustration from writing of Mr. Llewellyn George. "The ruler of 7th house (the thief) was the Moon and it was in the fourth house. So I informed her, `the person who took it was a woman and is right now if the building where you reside´." In this context KSK has not commented adversely. Hence the lord of 7th house represents the thief. It´s not the sub lord. What is there in the mind of the querist? Moon is lord of VIII. That is loss for the querist and gain to the opponent. Moon occupies V indicating the thing is related to entertainment or amusement.. Moon is in the constellation of Sun occupant of IV. It indicates a thing related to building or a vehicle. Since Sun owns IX the article should be related with journey, now pin-pointing a vehicle. Moon is in the sub of Mars owner of XII indicating loss to the native. Scrutinizing all the above findings the question is quite clear. Identification of the thief: VII lord is Mercury and therefore Mercury represents the thief. Mercury is aspected by Jupiter (5th aspect); and by Saturn (10th aspect). Therefore the person is of average health in middle age. He is very intelligent and notorious as well. Since Saturn is in IX, the person is a stranger, not related or known to you. Mercury occupies V house. This indicates that at the time judgment the thief was in a house of entertainment or in a shopping complex dealing with such articles. It does not confirm the he is any way related to you. With regards. Dr. Rath.sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>kp system <@ gro ups.com>Monday, April 27, 2009 2:52:01 PM TheftOn 25-4-09, car stereo was stolen.Horary no. 172 on 26-4-09 at 14-47-18hrs to identify the thief. The 7th CSL, sun in 4 in the star of ke in 8, signifying mo in 5, sa in 9,l/o 2 3 ( both occupiedCould it be my son?5thCSL is ra in2, agent of sa in 9, in mo star and sub in 5.RegardsSujataNow surf faster and smarter ! Check out the new Firefox 3 - Edition http://downloads. / in/firefox/ ?fr=om_email_ firefoxBring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite group at http://in.promos. / groups/ Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (15) 4a. Re: QUIZ-7 WHO IS HIS BABY? NO DNA TEST REQUIRED!!! Posted by: "adith kasinath.g.k" gkadithkasinath gkadithkasinath Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:34 am (PDT) *Dear Ramani ji,*>*Thanks for your answer!With RegardsAdith*>>> ->> ** gkadithkasinath <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>>> *To:* @gro ups.com>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2009 3:43 PM>> *Subject:* QUIZ-7 WHO IS HIS BABY? NO DNA TEST REQUIRED!!!>>>>>>>> Dear Friends,>>>> This time a Quiz based on the discussion had in the forum on BTR:>> This is an easy Quiz!>> No chart erection needed! All the required details furnished! If anything>> more needed can contact me!>>>> The objective of the Quiz is to make the members remember the rules>> forever through this practical test!>>>> Question:>> Who is his Baby? A or B or C ?>>>> Native’s Birth Details:>>>> The Native got his first baby in his DBAS: Jup-Rah-Moon- Mer>>>> His Vth Cuspal subLord : Sat : Sat is in Mercury star .>>>> The RPs of the child during the birth is given below:>>>> A)>> Moon: Sun-Ketu-Venus- Sun (sgl-stl-sl- ssl). Ketu is in Mer star>> Asc : Mer-Moon-Mars- Sat>> Day :Sat>>>> B)>> Moon: Jup-Mer-Mer- Venus>> Asc : Mer-Jup-Mer- Jup>> Day : Jupiter>>>> C)>> Moon: Moon-Mer-Jup- Mars>> Asc : Venus-Sun-Rah- Moon>> Day: Moon>>>> NO DNA test is needed to find out his baby!>> Our divine KP will do it!>>>> NOTE:>> PLS SEND YOUR ANSWER TO THE FORUM AND CC TO MY ID:>> gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com <gkadithkasinath% 40gmail.com>>>>> As per our earlier discussion with Mr. Punit Ji,the answer of the member>> will not be posted in the forum until the result is announced.>> I request Punit ji for the same!>>>> I INVITE ALL THE NEW ,JUNIOR AND SENIOR MEMBERS TO PARTICIPATE!>>>> Dear Juniors, my kind note for you!>> A man with a good physic struggles a lot to rest a Bullet Bike on its>> stand! whereas a lean boy from a work shop does it very casually !>>>> This is just because of his Practical experience and Not because of the>> strength of the body!>> So keep applying practically along with the theory! You Will win!>>>> RESULT: will be announced on Friday!>> Best of Luck>> Regards>> Adith>>>> >>>>> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (6) 4b. Re: QUIZ-7 WHO IS HIS BABY? NO DNA TEST REQUIRED!!! Posted by: "adith kasinath.g.k" gkadithkasinath gkadithkasinath Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:47 am (PDT) Dear Sunil Ji,Thanks for your participation and Answer!With regardsAdith>>>> --- On *Tue, 28/4/09, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>*wrote:>>> adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>> Re: QUIZ-7 WHO IS HIS BABY? NO DNA TEST REQUIRED!!!> @gro ups.com> Tuesday, 28 April, 2009, 5:08 PM>>>> Dear Punitji,> Thanks for your answer!>> Regards> Adith>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:43 PM, gkadithkasinath <gkadithkasinath@>> gmail.com<http://in.mc947. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=gkadithkasina th (AT) gmail (DOT) com>>> > wrote:>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends,>>>>>> This time a Quiz based on the discussion had in the forum on BTR:>>> This is an easy Quiz!>>> No chart erection needed! All the required details furnished! If anything>>> more needed can contact me!>>>>>> The objective of the Quiz is to make the members remember the rules>>> forever through this practical test!>>>>>> Question:>>> Who is his Baby? A or B or C ?>>>>>> Native’s Birth Details:>>>>>> The Native got his first baby in his DBAS: Jup-Rah-Moon- Mer>>>>>> His Vth Cuspal subLord : Sat : Sat is in Mercury star .>>>>>> The RPs of the child during the birth is given below:>>>>>> A)>>> Moon: Sun-Ketu-Venus- Sun (sgl-stl-sl- ssl). Ketu is in Mer star>>> Asc : Mer-Moon-Mars- Sat>>> Day :Sat>>>>>> B)>>> Moon: Jup-Mer-Mer- Venus>>> Asc : Mer-Jup-Mer- Jup>>> Day : Jupiter>>>>>> C)>>> Moon: Moon-Mer-Jup- Mars>>> Asc : Venus-Sun-Rah- Moon>>> Day: Moon>>>>>> NO DNA test is needed to find out his baby!>>> Our divine KP will do it!>>>>>> NOTE:>>> PLS SEND YOUR ANSWER TO THE FORUM AND CC TO MY ID:>>> gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com<http://in.mc947. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=gkadithkasina th%40gmail. com>>>>>>> As per our earlier discussion with Mr. Punit Ji,the answer of the member>>> will not be posted in the forum until the result is announced.>>> I request Punit ji for the same!>>>>>> I INVITE ALL THE NEW ,JUNIOR AND SENIOR MEMBERS TO PARTICIPATE!>>>>>> Dear Juniors, my kind note for you!>>> A man with a good physic struggles a lot to rest a Bullet Bike on its>>> stand! whereas a lean boy from a work shop does it very casually !>>>>>> This is just because of his Practical experience and Not because of the>>> strength of the body!>>> So keep applying practically along with the theory! You Will win!>>>>>> RESULT: will be announced on Friday!>>> Best of Luck>>> Regards>>> Adith>>>>>>>>> >>> ------------ --------- ---------> Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter now!<http://in.rd. / tagline_cricket_ 1/*http:/ /beta.cricket. >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (6) 4c. Re: QUIZ-7 WHO IS HIS BABY? NO DNA TEST REQUIRED!!! Posted by: "adith kasinath.g.k" gkadithkasinath gkadithkasinath Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:48 am (PDT) *Dear Suna ji,Thanks for your Answer!RegardsAdith*------------ --------- ---------> ** gkadithkasinath <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>> *To:* @gro ups.com> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2009 3:43:13 PM> *Subject:* QUIZ-7 WHO IS HIS BABY? NO DNA TEST REQUIRED!!!>>>> Dear Friends,>> This time a Quiz based on the discussion had in the forum on BTR:> This is an easy Quiz!> No chart erection needed! All the required details furnished! If anything> more needed can contact me!>> The objective of the Quiz is to make the members remember the rules forever> through this practical test!>> Question:> Who is his Baby? A or B or C ?>> Native’s Birth Details:>> The Native got his first baby in his DBAS: Jup-Rah-Moon- Mer>> His Vth Cuspal subLord : Sat : Sat is in Mercury star .>> The RPs of the child during the birth is given below:>> A)> Moon: Sun-Ketu-Venus- Sun (sgl-stl-sl- ssl). Ketu is in Mer star> Asc : Mer-Moon-Mars- Sat> Day :Sat>> B)> Moon: Jup-Mer-Mer- Venus> Asc : Mer-Jup-Mer- Jup> Day : Jupiter>> C)> Moon: Moon-Mer-Jup- Mars> Asc : Venus-Sun-Rah- Moon> Day: Moon>> NO DNA test is needed to find out his baby!> Our divine KP will do it!>> NOTE:> PLS SEND YOUR ANSWER TO THE FORUM AND CC TO MY ID:> gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com <gkadithkasinath% 40gmail.com>>> As per our earlier discussion with Mr. Punit Ji,the answer of the member> will not be posted in the forum until the result is announced.> I request Punit ji for the same!>> I INVITE ALL THE NEW ,JUNIOR AND SENIOR MEMBERS TO PARTICIPATE!>> Dear Juniors, my kind note for you!> A man with a good physic struggles a lot to rest a Bullet Bike on its> stand! whereas a lean boy from a work shop does it very casually !>> This is just because of his Practical experience and Not because of the> strength of the body!> So keep applying practically along with the theory! You Will win!>> RESULT: will be announced on Friday!> Best of Luck> Regards> Adith>> >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (6) 5a. Re: 5th Reader 1971 edition Posted by: "Dhanabalan R" r.dhanabalan r.dhanabalan Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:34 am (PDT) Dear LutherjiThank you for your reference given from 1971 Reader. The sensitive points have been calculated from DBA planets and the transit of Moon in these sensitive point is taken for the event to occur.The DBA is calculated from the primary significators of concerned houses. So the sensitive point can be calculated directly from primary significators. . Concerned house sublord also to be included in the significator list. i.e.. for marriage, 7th cuspal sublord also has to be included in addition to the primary significators of houses 2,7,11. If the event to occur within few years, move the Jupiter to the sensitive point. If the event to occur within few months, move the Sun to the sensitive point. If it is in days, move moon. If it is in hours, move lagna.Dhanabalan--- On Mon, 4/27/09, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote:Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: 5th Reader 1971 edition@gro ups.comMonday, April 27, 2009, 2:07 AMDear Dhanabalanji,Namaskar.I am quoting two paragraphs from page xiv of Reader V, 1971 for your information.While answering to a question regarding CHANDRA-ASTAMA EVER EVIL, KSK replies as follows: -"On the day you were relieved, you had been running Mars Dasa, Mercury Bhukti, Mars Anthra. It commenced on 19-3-1965. 1. Generally if the dasa lord and bhukti lord are strong in the sign, then the matter signifies by them can be had when Moon transits in the sign, star and sub ruled by them.Actually on that day the star was Jyestha, governed by Mercury in Scorpio, owned by Mars.What ever be the position of Moon in the horoscope, whether it is Chandra-Astama or not , the matter will be fulfilled."So it is evident that Mr. KSK did advocate use of DBA in his teachings.With Regards.Dr. RathDhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >@gro ups.comSaturday, April 25, 2009 5:30:01 PMRe: 5th Reader 1971 editionDear Jammalamadugu ranganDid you compare the 1971 edition and the recent edition 2004 of Reader V. I was told that lot of informations are missing in the latest edition of 2004. I was advised to read the 1971 edition. I was told that Mr.KSK did not use DBA in 1971 Reader V.Dhanabalan--- On Sat, 4/25/09, jammalamadugu rangan <jammalamadugu_ rangan > wrote:jammalamadugu rangan <jammalamadugu_ rangan >Re: 5th Reader 1971 edition@gro ups.comSaturday, April 25, 2009, 7:33 AMDear sirs,I have 1971 edition of vth reader.Jammalamadugu rangan--- On Fri, 24/4/09, shankar m.s <shankar_ms2002@ > wrote:shankar m..s <shankar_ms2002@ >Re: 5th Reader 1971 edition@gro ups.comFriday, 24 April, 2009, 9:52 AMDear Friend, I am having it with me. Could you please inform me whether there is any free software available for erecting KP prasna AND KP based Horoscope. Regards, Sankar Dhanabalan R <r..dhanabalan@ >kpsystem groups <@ gro ups.com>Monday, 20 April, 2009 8:35:19 AM 5th Reader 1971 editionDear MembersAnyone is having 5th Reader(Transit) 1971 edition which is said to be written by Mr.KSK himself?DhanabalanBollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! Now surf faster and smarter ! Check out the new Firefox 3 - Edition * Click here! Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (12) 5b.. Re: 5th Reader 1971 edition Posted by: "Luther Rath" rathluther rathluther Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:29 pm (PDT) Thank you so much Mr. Dhanabalanji for your valuable points .With due regards.Dr. Rath____________ _________ _________ __Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >@gro ups.comWednesday, April 29, 2009 8:25:00 AMRe: 5th Reader 1971 editionDear LutherjiThank you for your reference given from 1971 Reader.. The sensitive points have been calculated from DBA planets and the transit of Moon in these sensitive point is taken for the event to occur.The DBA is calculated from the primary significators of concerned houses. So the sensitive point can be calculated directly from primary significators. Concerned house sublord also to be included in the significator list.. i.e. for marriage, 7th cuspal sublord also has to be included in addition to the primary significators of houses 2,7,11. If the event to occur within few years, move the Jupiter to the sensitive point. If the event to occur within few months, move the Sun to the sensitive point. If it is in days, move moon.. If it is in hours, move lagna.Dhanabalan--- On Mon, 4/27/09, Luther Rath <rathluther> wrote:Luther Rath <rathluther>Re: 5th Reader 1971 edition@gro ups.comMonday, April 27, 2009, 2:07 AMDear Dhanabalanji,Namaskar.I am quoting two paragraphs from page xiv of Reader V, 1971 for your information.While answering to a question regarding CHANDRA-ASTAMA EVER EVIL, KSK replies as follows: -"On the day you were relieved, you had been running Mars Dasa, Mercury Bhukti, Mars Anthra. It commenced on 19-3-1965. 1. Generally if the dasa lord and bhukti lord are strong in the sign, then the matter signifies by them can be had when Moon transits in the sign, star and sub ruled by them.Actually on that day the star was Jyestha, governed by Mercury in Scorpio, owned by Mars.What ever be the position of Moon in the horoscope, whether it is Chandra-Astama or not , the matter will be fulfilled."So it is evident that Mr. KSK did advocate use of DBA in his teachings.With Regards.Dr. Rath____________ _________ _________ __Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >@gro ups.comSaturday, April 25, 2009 5:30:01 PMRe: 5th Reader 1971 editionDear Jammalamadugu ranganDid you compare the 1971 edition and the recent edition 2004 of Reader V. I was told that lot of informations are missing in the latest edition of 2004. I was advised to read the 1971 edition. I was told that Mr.KSK did not use DBA in 1971 Reader V.Dhanabalan--- On Sat, 4/25/09, jammalamadugu rangan <jammalamadugu_ rangan > wrote:jammalamadugu rangan <jammalamadugu_ rangan >Re: 5th Reader 1971 edition@gro ups.comSaturday, April 25, 2009, 7:33 AMDear sirs,I have 1971 edition of vth reader.Jammalamadugu rangan--- On Fri, 24/4/09, shankar m.s <shankar_ms2002@ ..com> wrote:shankar m...s <shankar_ms2002@ >Re: 5th Reader 1971 edition@gro ups.comFriday, 24 April, 2009, 9:52 AMDear Friend, I am having it with me. Could you please inform me whether there is any free software available for erecting KP prasna AND KP based Horoscope.Regards, Sankar ____________ _________ _________ __Dhanabalan R <r..dhanabalan@ >kpsystem groups <@ gro ups.com>Monday, 20 April, 2009 8:35:19 AM 5th Reader 1971 editionDear MembersAnyone is having 5th Reader(Transit) 1971 edition which is said to be written by Mr.KSK himself?Dhanabalan ____________ _________ _________ __Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! ____________ _________ _________ __Now surf faster and smarter ! Check out the new Firefox 3 - Edition * Click here! Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (12) 6a. Re: Result In Advance Of IPL 2009 Posted by: "Luther Rath" rathluther rathluther Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:34 am (PDT) Dear Vinod,Now a days I am not watching IPL. When was the MI to play the match in which you wished it to win? What is the result? Did you take in to consideration on which star day the match was to be played?Dr. Rath____________ _________ _________ __Vinod Verma <vinodverma236@ .in>@gro ups.comMonday, April 27, 2009 10:44:21 PM Result In Advance Of IPL 2009Dear Luthar Ji,NamaskarFirstly I am thankful to u,about appreciating me that boost my confidence a lot.On 27/apr/2009 at 20.45.49 in bhopal 77E23 23n16. I wish to Mumbai Indians to win.I opened a book and see the No-7 in which 11th Sl-Rahu which is deposited in Capricon10.53.31 means Moon Star lord and Moon Sub lord,and moon is deposited in 2nd house Cuspal chart and owner of 5th cusp.As a sub lord Moon is in 2nd house indicate fulfilmentof my desire.I pray to lord Ganesh -Result be in my favour.Thanks & RegardsVinod Verma ____________ _________ _________ __Now surf faster and smarter ! Check out the new Firefox 3 - Edition * Click here! Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (5) 6b. Re: Result In Advance Of IPL 2009 Posted by: "vgr pavan" vgr_pavan1 vgr_pavan1 Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:48 am (PDT) Luthar Rathji Pranam,,In this horary chart 11th csl rahu is in moon star.and sub moon in 2. 8th from 7th(opponant)is ok. But node denotes the planet with him more powerfully than the star lord. here rahu with jupiter in 11. this is also a very good indication but jupiter in the star of mars and sub of saturn mars l/o 1,8 in 12.and saturn l/o 11,12 in 5 in venus star . venus l/o 7 in 12.so jupiter even though in 11 is not favouring victory. moon on the otherhand is also in saturn sub and saturn in venus star. rahu representing jupiter,moon, saturn all the three are not favouring victory to mumbai. 6th cusp : sub lord mars in saturn star and venus sub. saturn in 5. venus in 12 in saturn star again not favourable.. ..Asc : sub lord jupiter as said above not favourable.7th cusp : sub lord rahu as said above connected with2, 5,8,10,11,12 houses not favourable.5th (11th of opponent) : sub lord rahu as said above.12th (6th to opponant) : venus in sat star and merc sub. satin 5 but merc in l/o 3,4,6 in 1 with no planet in his stars is good. (we have to also note merc rules star on 5th cusp how far it is favourable is to be known from the result)dasa period is moon/sat/mars till may 10th.then rahu ............ .....RP are : asc : mars satmoon : venus monday : moon.execppt venus remaining planets are not favouring ,,,......this is only my way of analysis...i may be wrongpls enlighten me if i am wrong...Guruji bless us all.regardsVGR--- On Tue, 28/4/09, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote:Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: Result In Advance Of IPL 2009@gro ups.comTuesday, 28 April, 2009, 4:57 PMDear Vinod,Let us hope the best. Let your wish be fulfilled this time.Regards.Dr. RathVinod Verma <vinodverma236@ .in>@gro ups.comMonday, April 27, 2009 10:44:21 PM Result In Advance Of IPL 2009Dear Luthar Ji,NamaskarFirstly I am thankful to u,about appreciating me that boost my confidence a lot.On 27/apr/2009 at 20.45.49 in bhopal 77E23 23n16. I wish to Mumbai Indians to win.I opened a book and see the No-7 in which 11th Sl-Rahu which is deposited in Capricon10.53.31 means Moon Star lord and Moon Sub lord,and moon is deposited in 2nd house Cuspal chart and owner of 5th cusp.As a sub lord Moon is in 2nd house indicate fulfilmentof my desire.I pray to lord Ganesh -Result be in my favour. Thanks & RegardsVinod Verma Now surf faster and smarter ! Check out the new Firefox 3 - Edition * Click here!Now surf faster and smarter ! Check out the new Firefox 3 - Edition http://downloads. / in/firefox/ ?fr=om_email_ firefox Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (5) 6c. Re: Result In Advance Of IPL 2009 Posted by: "Luther Rath" rathluther rathluther Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:29 pm (PDT) Dear Pavanji,Namaskar.I was having only interaction with Mr Vinod regarding the issue. I have not cast the chart or studied it in detail. Since Vinodji has not provided the date on which the match was to be played and against whom. So it was not posible to pinpoint to any thing. The questions raised by you interests me to study the chart. I request you and Vinodji to please intimate me the date and the hours the match was played. May I know the opponents aswell? Who won the match?With regards to you and Vinodji..Dr. Rath.____________ _________ _________ __vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.comWednesday, April 29, 2009 6:58:04 PMRe: Result In Advance Of IPL 2009Luthar Rathji Pranam,,In this horary chart 11th csl rahu is in moon star.and sub moon in 2. 8th from 7th(opponant)is ok. But node denotes the planet with him more powerfully than the star lord. here rahu with jupiter in 11. this is also a very good indication but jupiter in the star of mars and sub of saturn mars l/o 1,8 in 12.and saturn l/o 11,12 in 5 in venus star . venus l/o 7 in 12.so jupiter even though in 11 is not favouring victory. moon on the otherhand is also in saturn sub and saturn in venus star. rahu representing jupiter,moon, saturn all the three are not favouring victory to mumbai. 6th cusp : sub lord mars in saturn star and venus sub. saturn in 5. venus in 12 in saturn star again not favourable.. ..Asc : sub lord jupiter as said above not favourable.7th cusp : sub lord rahu as said above connected with2, 5,8,10,11,12 houses not favourable.5th (11th of opponent) : sub lord rahu as said above.12th (6th to opponant) : venus in sat star and merc sub. satin 5 but merc in l/o 3,4,6 in 1 with no planet in his stars is good. (we have to also note merc rules star on 5th cusp how far it is favourable is to be known from the result)dasa period is moon/sat/mars till may 10th.then rahu ............ ......RP are : asc : mars satmoon : venus monday : moon.execppt venus remaining planets are not favouring ,,,......this is only my way of analysis...i may be wrongpls enlighten me if i am wrong..Guruji bless us all.regardsVGR--- On Tue, 28/4/09, Luther Rath <rathluther> wrote:Luther Rath <rathluther@ . com>Re: Result In Advance Of IPL 2009@gro ups.comTuesday, 28 April, 2009, 4:57 PMDear Vinod,Let us hope the best. Let your wish be fulfilled this time..Regards.Dr. Rath____________ _________ _________ __Vinod Verma <vinodverma236@ .in>@gro ups.comMonday, April 27, 2009 10:44:21 PM Result In Advance Of IPL 2009Dear Luthar Ji,NamaskarFirstly I am thankful to u,about appreciating me that boost my confidence a lot.On 27/apr/2009 at 20.45.49 in bhopal 77E23 23n16. I wish to Mumbai Indians to win.I opened a book and see the No-7 in which 11th Sl-Rahu which is deposited in Capricon10.53.31 means Moon Star lord and Moon Sub lord,and moon is deposited in 2nd house Cuspal chart and owner of 5th cusp..As a sub lord Moon is in 2nd house indicate fulfilmentof my desire.I pray to lord Ganesh -Result be in my favour.Thanks & RegardsVinod Verma ____________ _________ _________ __Now surf faster and smarter ! Check out the new Firefox 3 - Edition * Click here! ____________ _________ _________ __Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin. Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (5) 7.1. Re: determination of sex of the child Posted by: "Sheetal" ratnamalag ratna_malag Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:34 am (PDT) Dear OVN MurthijiWhere can I read this in detail about ur method of BTR?RegardsDr SheetalOn Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 8:31 PM, OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:>>>> Dear Doctor Saab,>> We should not ask evey women client for this information, except when the> birth starof concerned child information not tallying with the concerned> cusp corulers, sometimes it tallies with the next cusp corulers or one more> then only we have to confirm the same by putting some more questions to> elicit correct information from the client.>> In this connection my experience an example one female came to me and has> given her birth details while putting btr for identifying exact time to the> minute of birth, I put some questions regarding her children she told first> child Poosam saturn star, second issue sathayam rahu star. these two stars> planets are tallying with here 7th cusp corulers and 11th corulers. then i> asked here whether she had an abortion in the first instance, she> recollected with great difficulty and told yes to my question, it might be> early after the marriage may be within 4 months. Next abortion after the> first (2nd conceiving Saturn tallies with 7th cusp corulers) child which is> 9th cusp corulers, then present second child (4th conceiving) is 11th cusp> corulers it is tallied with Rahu star.>> Regards> ovn murthy>> @gro ups.com <% 40. com>, Luther> Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Mr Murthyji,> > Your message is quite apealing. As it is so, should we not ask every one> woman, whether she had delayed/missed period ever, when ever she enquires> about some event relating to any of her child to confirm the number of the> sibling?> > Dr. Rath.> >> >> >> >> > ____________ _________ _________ __> > OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy@. ..>>> > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>> > Friday, April 24, 2009 8:50:28 AM> > Re: determination of sex of the child> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear Doctors Sri L Ruth n Smt. Sheetal,> >> > As said by u it is difficult to ascertain abortions if it has taken place> in early stageS i.e. less than 45 days.> >> > But however in my experience when I draw the KP chart of a native> especially married women, I used to ascertain the number of issues and their> birth stars in order to match those with the 5th, 7th and so on for the> orders of children with co-rulers of the cusp. Naturally it would match very> wonderfully. that is KP where we have to really astonish at the results and> the scientific way Guruji has given to us.> >> > Alternatively if the birth star of child is not tallying with the> relevant cusp of the mother, but it is tallying with the next altenative> cusp such as 7th/9th/11th/ 1st etc. OR the next alt. cusp then I have to> confirm the same with the mother. I used to ask whether u have any abortion> before this child, then the parents used to collect their memory and to> confirm we had one abortion or two abortions. This proves the correctness of> that chart. Here the parents might have forgotten about that event -> abortion but when I put this question specifically they used to respond> positively after going thru their memory.> >> > At one point of time, one Female replied to me (it is a wonder) she told> that the monthly cycle slightly delayed for more than 45 days after that she> got and she told that first they thought it is preganency but not tested> with the lab but after few days she got the regular cycle (after some> disturbance) . I hope this type of cases might be Dr. Sheetal indicated> wherein the mother herself is not aware about the conception and its loss> but I hope KP practioners can identify the same with the wonderful formuleas> we are having.> >> > Thanks n Regards> >> > OVN MURTHY> >> > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Dr. sheetal,> > > Yes, it is a hard task to know how many abortions a woman had in her> child bearing age. The history is misleading many a times. Hence we should> have some rules to find out if she had any abortions at all and when did she> had it. It is really a difficult problem to be solved.> > > With regards.> > > Dr. Rath> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > Sheetal <ratnamalag@ ...>> > > To: @gro ups.com> > > Tuesday, April 21, 2009 12:57:51 AM> > > Re: Re: determination of sex of the child> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Dr Rath and OVN Murthyji> > >> > > If we are taking conception for numbering the houses 5th,7th etc, then> including abortion in the list is ok, but ipractically still it is very> difficult to know the number and sequence of abortions and deliveries, as> many early abortions are mistaken for delayed periods and many women( even> educated) only remember the number and sequence of abortion till they get> living children or during early period of childbearing age.. After few yrs ,> many of them forget the total no of abortion and sequence of abortions. So> it is very diffiult to number house for perticular conceptions.> > >> > > Regards> > > Dr Sheetal> > >> > >> > >> > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 7:59 AM, Luther Rath <rathluther>> wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Murthyji and Dr. Sheetal,> > > Dr Sheetal has given a more detail information regarding the twins. The> confirmation of uni-ovular twins should be done by finding single placenta> and sac.In case of binovular twins the conception tme differs. So it should> be taken as two different conceptions. Consideration of 5th, 7th or 9th etc> should be bases on conception time only. Delevery time and time of first> breath always differs even in uni-ovular twins. So these times are not that> important. What Dr. Sheetal says and what I say are based on medical> science. Regarding the opinion given by others, saying that 1st born is> second child and 2nd born is 1st child is not based on medical science. This> is perhaps an assumption only. It is up to the individual astrologer to> accept or not to.> > > With regards.> > > Dr. Rath.> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > Sheetal <ratnamalag@ gmail. com>> > >> > > @gro ups.com> > > Sunday, April 19, 2009 1:58:21 PM> > > Re: Re: determination of sex of the child> > >> > >> > > Dear OVN MURTHY JI> > >> > > I want to add imp point here if it is of any help, u can consider it..> > >> > > Twins are either uniovular or binovular.> > >> > > Uniovular twins means fertilization of single ovum by single sperm> which are identical and always same sex.> > >> > > Binovular twins means fertilization of two ova by two sperms, which> may be of same sex or different sex> > >> > > (Ovum is genitically always X ( sex chromosomes) and sperms are either> X or Y( sex chromosomes) .> > > Sex of child is determined by fertilizing sperms ( X or Y type of sex> chromosome), and not by ovum which has 2 X ( XX)> > >> > > In uniovular twins devision of ovum occurs after fertilization where> one ovum X is always fertilized by one sperm either X or Y and so sex of> both children is same (either both XX female or both XY male)> > >> > > If in binovular twins, two sperms fertilizing 2 ovums are same ( X-X> or Y-Y)then both children will be of same sex but if both sperm fertilizing> sperms are different then it will produce different sex-children. )> > >> > > I have one query if u can answer.> > >> > > Why we take 5th , 7th houses etc? Is it the conception time or> breathing time( birth time)> > >> > > Becos in twin whether uniovular or binovular conception time is same(> nearly same) in binovular twins and in uniovular twins devision occurs after> fertilization producing 2 children so can we consider 5th house for both the> twins?> > >> > > U can do final diagnosis of type of twins whether uniovular or> binovular ( whatever the sex of child) only after delively of placenta after> delivery of child and seeing is cotylidons of placenta and blood> circulations/ veins of two children whether seperate of single.> > >> > > Secondly 1st and 2nd child, we r differentiating depending upon the> appearence of the child in this world. We dont know which was conceived> first in binovular and in uniovular it is one conception. How can we> differentiate 5th or 7th house in twins?> > >> > > I thought u r interested in research so tried to give additional> information. If it is of no use then just forget it.> > >> > > Regards> > > Dr Sheetal> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 10:03 PM, OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Dr. Luther Rath,> > > >> > > > I am very happy to see the medical analysis with regard to twins, and> their> > > > formation etc, I am sorry I have given my opinion like a Doctor> though I am> > > > not, I heard from somebody who delivered twins stating that the first> one is> > > > younger to second one in c section.> > > >> > > > One more important point I noticed when both are same sex then it is> > > > one conception and if it is different sex then it is two conceptions.> In> > > > future I will see these two different types of twins (uni /Bi)not in> one> > > > category but of two different categories. Uni is 5th Bi is 5n7 cusps.> > > >> > > > Thanks and Regards Sir,\> > > >> > > > OVN MURTHY HYD.> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...>> wrote:> > > >>> > > >> Dear Murthyji,> > > >> The following may be a supplimentation only.> > > >> Twins may be 'Uni-ovular' or 'Bi-ovular'. The uni-ovular twins are> of same> > > >> sex and identical, while the bi-ovular ones may be of different sex> and> > > >> un-identical. So the uni-ovular twins may be considered as result of> one> > > >> conception and so be related to V cusp only. In case of bi-ovular> twins it> > > >> should be considered as two conceptions. In such a situation the> first born> > > >> should be related to V cusp and the second born to VII cusp.> > > >> Secondly I wish to clerify that " first child in Caeserian is youger> to> > > >> the child who comes in the second phase" is not true. The surgeon> brings out> > > >> one which is easier to approach. The babies frequently change their> position> > > >> in the uterus and any one may be first approachable.> > > >> With due regards.> > > >> Dr. Rath> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> ____________ _________ _________ __> > > >> OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy@ . .>> > > >> @gro ups.com> > > >> Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:08:05 PM> > > >> Re: determination of sex of the child> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> Dear Members,> > > >>> > > >> In case of first twins, it is in the mother chart indicates 5th cusp> > > >> sublord and 7th cusp sublord (they may be same or connected to each> other or> > > >> connected to Mercury or the concerned planet in dual sign).> > > >> Hence for always twins it is two consecutive houses (with dif. of 3> house> > > >> 3rd is coborn to the first). As per Medical analysis. first child in> > > >> cessarian is younger to the child who comes in the second phase.> > > >>> > > >> Regards> > > >>> > > >> OVN MURTHY HYDERABAD.> > > >>> > > >> @gro ups.com, Sunaparantha Kalyan> <sunaparantha@> > > >> ...> wrote:> > > >> >> > > >> > Pranam,> > > >> > Dear Ravi Ji,> > > >> >> > > >> > I could remind the source of the attachments. It is from KP Group> File> > > >> > section.> > > >> > Regret any inconvenience.> > > >> > Further, What u have asked is a question for me too.> > > >> > I cordially invite to the Seniors like Guruji TW and others, to> light on> > > >> > us in case of Twin Birth as first delivery.> > > >> >> > > >> > Regds> > > >> >> > > >> > Suinaparantha> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > >> > s.ravi Shankar <gurukkal.shankar@ ...>> > > >> > @gro ups.com> > > >> > Cc: sunaparantha@ ...> > > >> > Sunday, April 5, 2009 11:25:36 AM> > > >> > Re: determination of sex of the child> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > Respected sunaparanthaji> > > >> >> > > >> > The attached file regarding determination of the sex of the child> is> > > >> > very much informative. One little doubt reg.twins.if twins in the> first> > > >> > delivery,whether we should take 7th or 9th cusp in next pregnancy> for> > > >> > determination of the sex of the child.pl.clarify.> > > >> >> > > >> > with regards,> > > >> >> > > >> > S.Ravi Shankar.> > > >> >> > > >> > --- On Wed, 1/4/09, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >> wrote:> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >> > > >> > Re: determination of sex of the child> > > >> > @gro ups.com> > > >> > Wednesday, 1 April, 2009, 9:17 AM> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > Dear Friends,> > > >> >> > > >> > Herewith I have attached (reproduced) an article on Determination> of sex> > > >> > of the child, which is from my collection folder.> > > >> > But I am sorry, I have not copied the source of it.. But it is> KP..> > > >> > This may be a valuable source for the members who are interested> on the> > > >> > topic.> > > >> >> > > >> > Sunaparantha> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > >> > adith kasinath..g. k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>> > > >> > @gro ups.com> > > >> > Wednesday, April 1, 2009 12:43:46 AM> > > >> > Re: determination of sex of the child> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > Dear Dhanabalan ji,> > > >> >> > > >> > Sorry for the delayed response, as I could see your message just> now!> > > >> >> > > >> > With regard to your point,their failures are within that balance> 10%.!?> > > >> >> > > >> > Regards> > > >> > Adith> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@> >> > > >> > wrote:> > > >> >> > > >> > Dear Adith> > > >> > Some of the KP astrologers claimed that they are getting more than> 90%> > > >> > result but failed to prove it in the quiz for the blind chart.> > > >> > Dhanabalan> > > >> >> > > >> > --- On Sun, 3/29/09, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@> gmail.com>> > > >> > wrote:> > > >> >> > > >> > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>> > > >> >> > > >> > Re: determination of sex of the child> > > >> > @gro ups.com> > > >> > Sunday, March 29, 2009, 7:00 AM> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > Dear Sunil gondhalekarJi,> > > >> >> > > >> > Thank you so much for your valuable points!.> > > >> >> > > >> > Also I like to know in the Horary, if the sex of "the planets> connected> > > >> > to 5th Cusp and also the RPs" do any impact on this? hence I have> seen in> > > >> > some cases , along with the sex of sign, the sex of the planets> and also the> > > >> > sex of the Rps at the time is majorly signifying male, it is male> and vice> > > >> > versa.> > > >> >> > > >> > I request your valuable comment on this which will be more useful> for> > > >> > all.> > > >> >> > > >> > Regards> > > >> > Adith> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 10:08 AM, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka@ gmail.> > > >> > com> wrote:> > > >> >> > > >> > dear shri naidu,> > > >> > 1.in 4 step theory,the sex determination of first child is seen> thr.5th> > > >> > cuspal sublord.> > > >> > we have to check this sublord's 4th step and the sign will denote> the> > > >> > sex.in case of natal> > > >> > we will have to confirm the cuspal sublord with help of RP.this> method> > > >> > gives me more> > > >> > than 90 % result.> > > >> > 2.first child from 5th,second from 7th,third from 9th from female> chart.> > > >> > thanks> > > >> > -sunil gondhalekar> > > >> >> > > >> > On 3/28/09, K. P.. Naidu <konathalan@ . co.in> wrote:> > > >> > Dear sri Rao Garu,> > > >> >> > > >> > Will you pl clarify on the following:-> > > >> > 1. In the method of 4 step theory of sri Gondhalekhar, star lord> of sub> > > >> > lord is the 4th step significator. There is no mention of sub> lord's sub> > > >> > lord in his Four Step Theory.> > > >> >> > > >> > 2. In determination of sex of the child, 5th cusp only to be> considered> > > >> > for all issues - 1st, 2nd, 3rd so on ?> > > >> >> > > >> > Regards.> > > >> > Naidu KP> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > K. P. Naidu,> > > >> > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> > > >> > Nowroji Road,> > > >> > Maharanipeta,> > > >> > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> > > >> > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > > >> >> > > >> > --- On Fri, 27/3/09, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> wrote:> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > >> > Re: determination of sex of the child> > > >> > @gro ups.com> > > >> >> > > >> > Friday, 27 March, 2009, 4:12 PM> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > Dear psg_psgp,> > > >> > In K.P., Mr. Sunil Gondhalekar has given a method which in my> experience> > > >> > has been found extremely accurate...:> > > >> > If the sublord of the sublord of the Vth cusp,is posited in a Male> > > >> > sign(Odd signs),a MALE child,and if in a Female sign(even> signs)....a FEMALE> > > >> > child is to be predicted...> > > >> > Kindly try this method out and inform me...please. ..> > > >> > With the very best wishes,> > > >> > L.Y.Rao.> > > >> > GOOD LUCK !> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > >> > psg_psgp <psg_psgp >> > > >> > @gro ups.com> > > >> > Thursday, 26 March, 2009 11:20:10 AM> > > >> > determination of sex of the child> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > my niece d.o.b.26.9.1980 bangalore 234 is the horary number> > > >> > i worked on the chart and decided a male child to be born in> america> > > >> > during first week of june2009> > > >> > is it ok> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > >> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Re: determination of sex of the child Posted by: "OVN MURTHY" ovnmurthy murthyovn Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:29 pm (PDT) Dear Dr. Sheetal ji,It is available in kpaf forum group also at my web site as follows:www.saibhavishyavan i.com/article. htm Regardsovn murthy@gro ups.com, Sheetal <ratnamalag@ ...> wrote:>> Dear OVN Murthiji> > Where can I read this in detail about ur method of BTR?> > Regards> Dr Sheetal> > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 8:31 PM, OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy@. ..> wrote:> > >> >> >> > Dear Doctor Saab,> >> > We should not ask evey women client for this information, except when the> > birth starof concerned child information not tallying with the concerned> > cusp corulers, sometimes it tallies with the next cusp corulers or one more> > then only we have to confirm the same by putting some more questions to> > elicit correct information from the client.> >> > In this connection my experience an example one female came to me and has> > given her birth details while putting btr for identifying exact time to the> > minute of birth, I put some questions regarding her children she told first> > child Poosam saturn star, second issue sathayam rahu star. these two stars> > planets are tallying with here 7th cusp corulers and 11th corulers. then i> > asked here whether she had an abortion in the first instance, she> > recollected with great difficulty and told yes to my question, it might be> > early after the marriage may be within 4 months. Next abortion after the> > first (2nd conceiving Saturn tallies with 7th cusp corulers) child which is> > 9th cusp corulers, then present second child (4th conceiving) is 11th cusp> > corulers it is tallied with Rahu star.> >> > Regards> > ovn murthy> >> > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>, Luther> > Rath <rathluther@ > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Mr Murthyji,> > > Your message is quite apealing. As it is so, should we not ask every one> > woman, whether she had delayed/missed period ever, when ever she enquires> > about some event relating to any of her child to confirm the number of the> > sibling?> > > Dr. Rath.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy@>> >> > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>> > > Friday, April 24, 2009 8:50:28 AM> > > Re: determination of sex of the child> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Doctors Sri L Ruth n Smt. Sheetal,> > >> > > As said by u it is difficult to ascertain abortions if it has taken place> > in early stageS i.e. less than 45 days.> > >> > > But however in my experience when I draw the KP chart of a native> > especially married women, I used to ascertain the number of issues and their> > birth stars in order to match those with the 5th, 7th and so on for the> > orders of children with co-rulers of the cusp. Naturally it would match very> > wonderfully. that is KP where we have to really astonish at the results and> > the scientific way Guruji has given to us.> > >> > > Alternatively if the birth star of child is not tallying with the> > relevant cusp of the mother, but it is tallying with the next altenative> > cusp such as 7th/9th/11th/ 1st etc. OR the next alt. cusp then I have to> > confirm the same with the mother. I used to ask whether u have any abortion> > before this child, then the parents used to collect their memory and to> > confirm we had one abortion or two abortions. This proves the correctness of> > that chart. Here the parents might have forgotten about that event -> > abortion but when I put this question specifically they used to respond> > positively after going thru their memory.> > >> > > At one point of time, one Female replied to me (it is a wonder) she told> > that the monthly cycle slightly delayed for more than 45 days after that she> > got and she told that first they thought it is preganency but not tested> > with the lab but after few days she got the regular cycle (after some> > disturbance) . I hope this type of cases might be Dr. Sheetal indicated> > wherein the mother herself is not aware about the conception and its loss> > but I hope KP practioners can identify the same with the wonderful formuleas> > we are having.> > >> > > Thanks n Regards> > >> > > OVN MURTHY> > >> > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Dr. sheetal,> > > > Yes, it is a hard task to know how many abortions a woman had in her> > child bearing age. The history is misleading many a times. Hence we should> > have some rules to find out if she had any abortions at all and when did she> > had it. It is really a difficult problem to be solved.> > > > With regards.> > > > Dr. Rath> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > Sheetal <ratnamalag@ ...>> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Tuesday, April 21, 2009 12:57:51 AM> > > > Re: Re: determination of sex of the child> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Dr Rath and OVN Murthyji> > > >> > > > If we are taking conception for numbering the houses 5th,7th etc, then> > including abortion in the list is ok, but ipractically still it is very> > difficult to know the number and sequence of abortions and deliveries, as> > many early abortions are mistaken for delayed periods and many women( even> > educated) only remember the number and sequence of abortion till they get> > living children or during early period of childbearing age.. After few yrs ,> > many of them forget the total no of abortion and sequence of abortions. So> > it is very diffiult to number house for perticular conceptions.> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Dr Sheetal> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 7:59 AM, Luther Rath <rathluther>> > wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Murthyji and Dr. Sheetal,> > > > Dr Sheetal has given a more detail information regarding the twins. The> > confirmation of uni-ovular twins should be done by finding single placenta> > and sac.In case of binovular twins the conception tme differs. So it should> > be taken as two different conceptions. Consideration of 5th, 7th or 9th etc> > should be bases on conception time only. Delevery time and time of first> > breath always differs even in uni-ovular twins. So these times are not that> > important. What Dr. Sheetal says and what I say are based on medical> > science. Regarding the opinion given by others, saying that 1st born is> > second child and 2nd born is 1st child is not based on medical science. This> > is perhaps an assumption only. It is up to the individual astrologer to> > accept or not to.> > > > With regards.> > > > Dr. Rath.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > Sheetal <ratnamalag@ gmail. com>> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Sunday, April 19, 2009 1:58:21 PM> > > > Re: Re: determination of sex of the child> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear OVN MURTHY JI> > > >> > > > I want to add imp point here if it is of any help, u can consider it..> > > >> > > > Twins are either uniovular or binovular.> > > >> > > > Uniovular twins means fertilization of single ovum by single sperm> > which are identical and always same sex.> > > >> > > > Binovular twins means fertilization of two ova by two sperms, which> > may be of same sex or different sex> > > >> > > > (Ovum is genitically always X ( sex chromosomes) and sperms are either> > X or Y( sex chromosomes) .> > > > Sex of child is determined by fertilizing sperms ( X or Y type of sex> > chromosome), and not by ovum which has 2 X ( XX)> > > >> > > > In uniovular twins devision of ovum occurs after fertilization where> > one ovum X is always fertilized by one sperm either X or Y and so sex of> > both children is same (either both XX female or both XY male)> > > >> > > > If in binovular twins, two sperms fertilizing 2 ovums are same ( X-X> > or Y-Y)then both children will be of same sex but if both sperm fertilizing> > sperms are different then it will produce different sex-children. )> > > >> > > > I have one query if u can answer.> > > >> > > > Why we take 5th , 7th houses etc? Is it the conception time or> > breathing time( birth time)> > > >> > > > Becos in twin whether uniovular or binovular conception time is same(> > nearly same) in binovular twins and in uniovular twins devision occurs after> > fertilization producing 2 children so can we consider 5th house for both the> > twins?> > > >> > > > U can do final diagnosis of type of twins whether uniovular or> > binovular ( whatever the sex of child) only after delively of placenta after> > delivery of child and seeing is cotylidons of placenta and blood> > circulations/ veins of two children whether seperate of single.> > > >> > > > Secondly 1st and 2nd child, we r differentiating depending upon the> > appearence of the child in this world. We dont know which was conceived> > first in binovular and in uniovular it is one conception. How can we> > differentiate 5th or 7th house in twins?> > > >> > > > I thought u r interested in research so tried to give additional> > information. If it is of no use then just forget it.> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Dr Sheetal> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 10:03 PM, OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Dr. Luther Rath,> > > > >> > > > > I am very happy to see the medical analysis with regard to twins, and> > their> > > > > formation etc, I am sorry I have given my opinion like a Doctor> > though I am> > > > > not, I heard from somebody who delivered twins stating that the first> > one is> > > > > younger to second one in c section.> > > > >> > > > > One more important point I noticed when both are same sex then it is> > > > > one conception and if it is different sex then it is two conceptions.> > In> > > > > future I will see these two different types of twins (uni /Bi)not in> > one> > > > > category but of two different categories.. Uni is 5th Bi is 5n7 cusps.> > > > >> > > > > Thanks and Regards Sir,\> > > > >> > > > > OVN MURTHY HYD.> > > > >> > > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...>> > wrote:> > > > >>> > > > >> Dear Murthyji,> > > > >> The following may be a supplimentation only.> > > > >> Twins may be 'Uni-ovular' or 'Bi-ovular'. The uni-ovular twins are> > of same> > > > >> sex and identical, while the bi-ovular ones may be of different sex> > and> > > > >> un-identical. So the uni-ovular twins may be considered as result of> > one> > > > >> conception and so be related to V cusp only. In case of bi-ovular> > twins it> > > > >> should be considered as two conceptions. In such a situation the> > first born> > > > >> should be related to V cusp and the second born to VII cusp.> > > > >> Secondly I wish to clerify that " first child in Caeserian is youger> > to> > > > >> the child who comes in the second phase" is not true. The surgeon> > brings out> > > > >> one which is easier to approach. The babies frequently change their> > position> > > > >> in the uterus and any one may be first approachable.> > > > >> With due regards.> > > > >> Dr. Rath> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > >> OVN MURTHY <ovnmurthy@ . .>> > > > >> @gro ups.com> > > > >> Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:08:05 PM> > > > >> Re: determination of sex of the child> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> Dear Members,> > > > >>> > > > >> In case of first twins, it is in the mother chart indicates 5th cusp> > > > >> sublord and 7th cusp sublord (they may be same or connected to each> > other or> > > > >> connected to Mercury or the concerned planet in dual sign).> > > > >> Hence for always twins it is two consecutive houses (with dif. of 3> > house> > > > >> 3rd is coborn to the first).. As per Medical analysis. first child in> > > > >> cessarian is younger to the child who comes in the second phase.> > > > >>> > > > >> Regards> > > > >>> > > > >> OVN MURTHY HYDERABAD.> > > > >>> > > > >> @gro ups.com, Sunaparantha Kalyan> > <sunaparantha@> > > > >> ...> wrote:> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Pranam,> > > > >> > Dear Ravi Ji,> > > > >> >> > > > >> > I could remind the source of the attachments. It is from KP Group> > File> > > > >> > section.> > > > >> > Regret any inconvenience.> > > > >> > Further, What u have asked is a question for me too.> > > > >> > I cordially invite to the Seniors like Guruji TW and others, to> > light on> > > > >> > us in case of Twin Birth as first delivery.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Regds> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Suinaparantha> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > >> > s.ravi Shankar <gurukkal.shankar@ ...>> > > > >> > @gro ups.com> > > > >> > Cc: sunaparantha@ ...> > > > >> > Sunday, April 5, 2009 11:25:36 AM> > > > >> > Re: determination of sex of the child> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Respected sunaparanthaji> > > > >> >> > > > >> > The attached file regarding determination of the sex of the child> > is> > > > >> > very much informative. One little doubt reg.twins.if twins in the> > first> > > > >> > delivery,whether we should take 7th or 9th cusp in next pregnancy> > for> > > > >> > determination of the sex of the child.pl.clarify.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > with regards,> > > > >> >> > > > >> > S.Ravi Shankar.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > --- On Wed, 1/4/09, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >> > wrote:> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >> > > > >> > Re: determination of sex of the child> > > > >> > @gro ups.com> > > > >> > Wednesday, 1 April, 2009, 9:17 AM> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Dear Friends,> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Herewith I have attached (reproduced) an article on Determination> > of sex> > > > >> > of the child, which is from my collection folder.> > > > >> > But I am sorry, I have not copied the source of it.. But it is> > KP..> > > > >> > This may be a valuable source for the members who are interested> > on the> > > > >> > topic.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Sunaparantha> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > >> > adith kasinath..g. k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>> > > > >> > To: @gro ups.com> > > > >> > Wednesday, April 1, 2009 12:43:46 AM> > > > >> > Re: determination of sex of the child> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Dear Dhanabalan ji,> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Sorry for the delayed response, as I could see your message just> > now!> > > > >> >> > > > >> > With regard to your point,their failures are within that balance> > 10%.!?> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Regards> > > > >> > Adith> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@> > >> > > > >> > wrote:> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Dear Adith> > > > >> > Some of the KP astrologers claimed that they are getting more than> > 90%> > > > >> > result but failed to prove it in the quiz for the blind chart.> > > > >> > Dhanabalan> > > > >> >> > > > >> > --- On Sun, 3/29/09, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@> > gmail.com>> > > > >> > wrote:> > > > >> >> > > > >> > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Re: determination of sex of the child> > > > >> > @gro ups.com> > > > >> > Sunday, March 29, 2009, 7:00 AM> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Dear Sunil gondhalekarJi,> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Thank you so much for your valuable points!.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Also I like to know in the Horary, if the sex of "the planets> > connected> > > > >> > to 5th Cusp and also the RPs" do any impact on this? hence I have> > seen in> > > > >> > some cases , along with the sex of sign, the sex of the planets> > and also the> > > > >> > sex of the Rps at the time is majorly signifying male, it is male> > and vice> > > > >> > versa.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > I request your valuable comment on this which will be more useful> > for> > > > >> > all.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Regards> > > > >> > Adith> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 10:08 AM, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka@ gmail.> > > > >> > com> wrote:> > > > >> >> > > > >> > dear shri naidu,> > > > >> > 1.in 4 step theory,the sex determination of first child is seen> > thr.5th> > > > >> > cuspal sublord.> > > > >> > we have to check this sublord's 4th step and the sign will denote> > the> > > > >> > sex.in case of natal> > > > >> > we will have to confirm the cuspal sublord with help of RP.this> > method> > > > >> > gives me more> > > > >> > than 90 % result.> > > > >> > 2.first child from 5th,second from 7th,third from 9th from female> > chart.> > > > >> > thanks> > > > >> > -sunil gondhalekar> > > > >> >> > > > >> > On 3/28/09, K. P.. Naidu <konathalan@ . co.in> wrote:> > > > >> > Dear sri Rao Garu,> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Will you pl clarify on the following:-> > > > >> > 1. In the method of 4 step theory of sri Gondhalekhar, star lord> > of sub> > > > >> > lord is the 4th step significator. There is no mention of sub> > lord's sub> > > > >> > lord in his Four Step Theory.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > 2. In determination of sex of the child, 5th cusp only to be> > considered> > > > >> > for all issues - 1st, 2nd, 3rd so on ?> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Regards.> > > > >> > Naidu KP> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > K. P. Naidu,> > > > >> > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> > > > >> > Nowroji Road,> > > > >> > Maharanipeta,> > > > >> > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> > > > >> > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > --- On Fri, 27/3/09, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > wrote:> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > > >> > Re: determination of sex of the child> > > > >> > @gro ups.com> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Friday, 27 March, 2009, 4:12 PM> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Dear psg_psgp,> > > > >> > In K.P., Mr. Sunil Gondhalekar has given a method which in my> > experience> > > > >> > has been found extremely accurate...:> > > > >> > If the sublord of the sublord of the Vth cusp,is posited in a Male> > > > >> > sign(Odd signs),a MALE child,and if in a Female sign(even> > signs).....a FEMALE> > > > >> > child is to be predicted....> > > > >> > Kindly try this method out and inform me...please. ..> > > > >> > With the very best wishes,> > > > >> > L.Y.Rao.> > > > >> > GOOD LUCK !> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > >> > psg_psgp <psg_psgp >> > > > >> > @gro ups.com> > > > >> > Thursday, 26 March, 2009 11:20:10 AM> > > > >> > determination of sex of the child> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > my niece d.o.b.26.9.1980 bangalore 234 is the horary number> > > > >> > i worked on the chart and decided a male child to be born in> > america> > > > >> > during first week of june2009> > > > >> > is it ok> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > >> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > >> > Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without> > > > >> > download.> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > >> > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click> > here> > > > >> >> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (54) 8. Marriage _ When? Posted by: "satyanarayana murthy" vsnm_vdl vsnm_vdl Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:45 am (PDT) [Attachment(s) from satyanarayana murthy included below] Saadar Pranaams to all the members of this group,I humbly request you all to go throu my analysis and give me proper guidance in this regard. I also humbly request Sri. OVN. Murthy ji to keep this in the files of this system of group on my behalf. Thanking you all Sirs,Astrologically Yours,Mr.VSN. Murthy, K.P.Astrologer,Sri Datta Sai Ram Astro Centre,#404, Teja Gardens Apartments,Prakashnagar, KURNOOL-518004.Cell:-09449220874; 09293138387;Phone:-08518- 324184; 08518-276286.E-mail I.D.:-vsnm_vdl (AT) (DOT) co.in Get an email ID as yourname (AT) ymail (DOT) com or yourname@rocketmail .com. Click here http://in.promos. / address Attachment(s) from satyanarayana murthy 2 of 2 File(s) Document 1.doc A.V.Ramesh.pdf Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1) 9a. Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP Posted by: "Ramani" kadavasalramani kadavasalramani Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:46 am (PDT) Dear Sri Murthygaru,An excellent clarification. As you say it may work out correctly by using RPs for minor events. I don't know how far it will work out for major events without appling DBA.My warmth appreciation for your research mindedness.Regards,K.S.V.Ramani- OVN MURTHY @gro ups.com Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:25 PM Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KPDear Sri Konthala P Naidu/ Sri KSV Ramani ji,The following is the line given by Sri Dhanbalan ji,"Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA?"As said by Sri Ramani; Sri Dhanbalan was born in Rahu- lagna sublord in Sagi Asc. Rahu is in Venus star who is lord of 5n10 on 9th cusp orb and I hope that is why he puts very tough ideas where it requires analytical thinking and create no thoughts on this subject as said by Sri KSK ji to do research more on diferent concepts.It seems he might attended the astrology seminar conducted recently in Chennai.According to my mind in KP u will know the results of each birth chart by identifying the sublords and significators of various houses, then u will apply the same to the DBA to identify when it will take place ( in case more significtors then ur using the RPs to filter the significators) as said by Sri Naidu, Vizag. Now this new idea of Sri Dhanbalan is without going to DBA only by RPs who are the significators of the concerned Bhavas would give the result on the concerned bhava on the day Where the RPs are matching with bhava. This principle I am following since a long time. This is meant for small events but not for big events, which are very limited events in life time. such as marriage, birth of children, etc.e.g. I see the RPs of 1. DayLord 2. Moon sign lord 3. Moon Star Lordat this juncture I verify whether these 3 RPs are connected to my 2nd house, 6 or 11, then I will see the other 2 RPs Ascendant signlord and Asc.. starlord whether it is operating in the normal working hours (not being early morning or after 9pm of the day) during that time I used to get my client or somebody visits and gives some money to me. This is one way of testing RP with petty events but not for big things where I have to see the DBA also invariably. This wonder predictions can work successfully with the help of RPS as said by Guruji.Thanks and RegardsOVN MURTHY HYDERABAD 94417 78427/ 23232212@gro ups.com, "Ramani" <kadavasalramani@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sri Naidu,> > Pl. don't underestimate Sri R.Dhanabalan for his query on> DBA. He has raised this query with some specific purpose> and reason. It is because, one gentleman posing himsel as a revolutionist has delivered lecture with many shortcut ideas, in which he has asserted that the DBAs are of no use for deciding event; instead he insists for applying RPs.> On this, Sri Dhanabalan, it seems has initiated a debate> on this subject. Let us watch his further observations. .> > Regards,> > K.S.V.Ramani > - > K. P. Naidu > @gro ups.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:28 PM> Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > > > > Dear Mr.Dhanabalan<> > It is surprising to find such a question from you having good knowledge of the subject of KP.> DBAS method is for predicting the timing of event. whether the event is promised or not is not dependent on DBAS. All this you may be knowing. Then why you have put such a question ? what exactly you expect from the members ?> > Thanks & Regds.> > Naidu KP> > > > K. P. Naidu,> Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> Nowroji Road,> Maharanipeta,> VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > --- On Mon, 20/4/09, ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...> wrote:> > > ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ ...>> Re: Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> @gro ups.com> Monday, 20 April, 2009, 6:10 PM> > > Dear Dhanabalan> > Correct prediction in KP can be given without DBA but the timing of the event predicted will require DBA.> > regards,> Ajoy> - > Dhanabalan R > kpsystem groups > Monday, April 20, 2009 8:39 AM> Dasa Bukthi Antara in KP> > > Dear Members> Is it possible to give correct prediction in KP without using DBA?> Dhanabalan > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! Click here.> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (24) 10a. Thanks for approval. Posted by: "Vishram Deshpande" vishram_deshpande vishram_deshpande Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:47 am (PDT) Dear Sir, I thank you so much for approving my membeship. Hope our getting together will be helpful to all of us. As I am new to this group, can you please forward some of the points which were discussed recently, or even the points which were closed after deep discussions ? I am very happy to be a part of this group where every one is interested in K.P.astrology. In almost all books the main rules are same & there seem to be no differences, but when it comes to secondary rules some books show it in a different way & new learners are confused. Has there been any discussion on this before ? I have studied K.P.astrology mainly from books in Marathi. I would like to mention only one point for the moment where I found a difference. Our K..P.rule is that if sub lord of the main house (for that particular question) is in a star (nakshatra) of a retrogade planet, the answer is negative. But some times all planets (of course only those who can transit in either directions) are going backward. In one book written by a K.P.Class owner, he says that in such cases if other things are favouring, the answer can be positive also & we need to change slightly the secondary rule. I woould like to know more about such points. Pl convey my best wishes to all members. Hope to see more & more interesting things in mails Vishram Deshpande Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter http://beta. cricket.. com Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (2) 10b.. Re: Thanks for approval. Posted by: "Luther Rath" rathluther rathluther Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:29 pm (PDT) Cordial welcome Mr. Vishram Deshpandeji. Will you kindly introduce yourself to the group. It would be my great pleasure to know you well.With my respects.Dr. Rath.____________ _________ _________ __Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in>@gro ups.comWednesday, April 29, 2009 11:36:03 AM Thanks for approval.Dear Sir,I thank you so much for approving my membeship. Hope our getting together will be helpful to all of us.As I am new to this group, can you please forward some of the points which were discussed recently, or even the points which were closed after deep discussions ?I am very happy to be a part of this group where every one is interested in K.P.astrology.In almost all books the main rules are same & there seem to be no differences, but when it comes to secondary rules some books show it in a different way & new learners are confused. Has there been any discussion on this before ? I have studied K.P.astrology mainly from books in Marathi. I would like to mention only one point for the moment where I found a difference. Our K.P..rule is that if sub lord of the main house (for that particular question) is in a star (nakshatra) of a retrogade planet, the answer is negative. But some times all planets (of course only those who can transit in either directions) are going backward. In one book written by a K.P.Class owner, he says that in such cases if other things are favouring, the answer can be positive also & we need to change slightly the secondary rule. I woould like to know more about such points.Pl convey my best wishes to all members. Hope to see more & more interesting things in mailsVishram Deshpande ____________ _________ _________ __Own a website..Get an unlimited package.Pay next to nothing.*Click here!. Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (2) 11. IPL 27/APR/09 Posted by: "Vinod Verma" vinodverma236 vinodverma236 Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:28 pm (PDT) Dear Luthar Ji,NamaskarThe match was played between Mumbai Indians against Kalcutta Knight Riders on 27/apr/09. The day was Monday & Star was Rohini.Because of your blessings resultwas in my favour.Mumbai Indians Won.Best RegardsVinod Verma Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! Go to http://in.movies. / Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1) 12a. Re: when the land will be sold Posted by: "adith kasinath.g.k" gkadithkasinath gkadithkasinath Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:29 pm (PDT) Dear Sanjai Sharma ji,I have not received your reply on my doubt!. But here is my analysis.Moon is (lord of 3,4) in 12. It is in the star of Sun (lord of 5 in 12). Sunis in the star of Ketu in 3. and also signifies 12 through Moon and 10,8through Jupiter and also 4 (feebly 9,10,11) through Sat. This confirms thequestion and also the DB ae favorable.Sat ® is in 4 delays the matter.11th CSL is Sun (lord of 5 in 12) and is in the star of Ketu in 3.Ketu alsosignfies 10 and 8 through Jupiter.So the land will be sold.10th CSL is Sat ® in Venus star and Jupiter sub.Sat is in 4 , and it is feeble signfying 9,10,11 as there are planets andalso Ketu ,venus and Mars are in Sat star.Sat is in venus star which signfies 1,6,11 conjoined with Mars (lord ofland) and lord of 7 and also 12 feebly.Venus is in Sat star again. here we can see Ketu represents Sat and it is in3.Further Sat is in the sub of Jupiter .No planet in its star. so stronglysignfies 8 and 10. Jupiter is in Mars star (lord of 8 and 12 feebly) in 11.Hence the land will be sold and the native will get a good price .RPs were at your time of Judgement:Asc: Sun-Ketu-VenusMoon-Mars-Sun- MoonDay-SunSun is a very good significator and RP.The running Bukthi Moon is a good significtor and a RP.Hence I feel the property will be sold in Sun Dasa-Moon Bukthi-SunAndra-Mars/Jup sukshma between 17/5/2009 to 3/6/2009. (more favorabledates 26 to 29/5/2009).The next Bukthi Mars is also in the RP and a significator. But it is in thestar of retro Sat.Also Earlier Moon Bukthi is strong enough to give theresult after the Sat becones direct in motion on 17/5/2009.This is my opinion!Pls update the actual!Thanks and RegardsAdithOn Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:37 PM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:> Dear Sanjai ji,>> Can you clarify on the below!>> As per your particulars for Chandigarh (30n44 76e53), the 10th CSL is Sat.> But you said it is Rah. Pls confirm.>> Regards> Adith>> On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 2:35 PM, sanjay_mhl <sanjay_mhl (AT) (DOT) co.in>wrote:>>>>>>>>> Respected members>>>> Namaskaar>>>> Iam trying to solve a horay question " when the land of the native will>> be sold ">>>> Horary number is 33>>>> date of question is 26-4-2009>>>> time of question :13:28:29hrs>>>> place of question : Chandigarh (India)>>>> as per KP horary the land will be sold if the 10th cusp sub lord will>> signify 3,5,10. but in this particular question 10th sub lord Rahu is>> signifying 9, 12,3,4 .>>>> I want to ask the respected members that>>>> (i)Am I correct>> upto this stage?>>>> (ii) please guide>> me how to reach up to the conclusion .>>>> I shall be very much thankful to you.>>>> Sanjay Sharma>>>> >>>> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (3) Recent Activity 18 New Members 2 New FilesVisit Your Group Give Back for Good Get inspired by a good cause. Y! 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