Guest guest Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 Dear Members, As per K.P. Principles,Mental Diseases are caused if : 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is afflicted...and... 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted...and... 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousness is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders...) For more detailed information members are recommended to read the excellent book "MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL" by Mr.K.Subramaniam & Mr.Vaikary Ramamurthy. With the very best wishes, Yogesh Lajmi. GOOD LUCK ! rashmi patel <rashmihpatel Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:37:21 PM Physcological imbalance Namaste Sagar Ji, You said moon-ketu, moon-rahu, moon-mercury effect mental disorders but is it only in perticular lagna or rashis combination or more likely every where pls confirm this because I see in this one kundali moon-rahu & moon-mercury opposit each other but until now its all perfect & person is very inteligent & active but check his is he may be in later older age could get mental disorders? I know one thing this person is very very emotional meaning even though he is MAN but he crys in every tv serials or he cannot see any one crying because then he gets emotinal right away so there had be one reason from this combination let me tell his info may-12-57, 04;25am, 12n45, 45e12 gmt-3hrs east [aden-yemen] thanks rashmi Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.comTuesday, July 14, 2009 8:25:58 AMRe: Physcological imbalance HiI too was literally mad for 4 years.On 31st December 1995 night 21-35 PM i became literally mad an di was not in my control.Only on 27th June 1998 i was come out of the same.I became literally mad in Mercury -Moon period.SSBrahmaanda Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.comTuesday, 14 July, 2009 12:18:42 PMRe: Physcological imbalance HiMoon-Mercury, Moon-Rahu and Moon-Saturn affliction will influence on mental imbalance.Note:this imbalance is often seen in the charts of great saint, research scholars too.Swami vivekananda born with Moon-Saturn in Virgo , hence his Philoshophical lore was great which live long.Dr.B.V.Raman with Moon-Saturn in Taurus resulted in great works/books by his pen.In very few cases these three combination make mental worries/mentally disturbed etc.Depends on the other aspects of the chart.In my own case Moon-Saturn together in Libra resulted in "benefic dots and percentage of seats/marks" and "Mirrorology'RegardsSahhasra Saagara Laxmi T <tirulaxmi >@gro ups.comTuesday, 14 July, 2009 8:45:20 AM Physcological imbalance Dear all,In kp, how to see the Physiological imbalance (Mental fluctuations) in the chart? Is it seen through serious afflictions of moon and mercury? with regardstirulaxmi Looking for local information? Find it on Local Looking for local information? Find it on Local Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 Dear Lajmi ji, The quote too looks like from a traditional astrology book rather than KP astrology book. 'Afflicted' is also not a popular KP terminology and should be avoided, in my opinion. Can you please elaborate it more in a KP language, so that KP beginners can understand it. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi wrote: Dear Members, As per K.P. Principles,Mental Diseases are caused if : 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is afflicted...and... 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted...and... 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousness is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders...) For more detailed information members are recommended to read the excellent book " MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL " by Mr.K.Subramaniam & Mr.Vaikary Ramamurthy. With the very best wishes, Yogesh Lajmi. GOOD LUCK ! rashmi patel <rashmihpatel Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:37:21 PM Physcological imbalance Namaste Sagar Ji, You said moon-ketu, moon-rahu, moon-mercury effect mental disorders but is it only in perticular lagna or rashis combination or more likely every where pls confirm this because I see in this one kundali moon-rahu & moon-mercury opposit each other but until now its all perfect & person is very inteligent & active but check his is he may be in later older age could get mental disorders? I know one thing this person is very very emotional meaning even though he is MAN but he crys in every tv serials or he cannot see any one crying because then he gets emotinal right away so there had be one reason from this combination let me tell his info may-12-57, 04;25am, 12n45, 45e12 gmt-3hrs east [aden-yemen] thanks rashmi Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.com Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:25:58 AMRe: Physcological imbalance HiI too was literally mad for 4 years.On 31st December 1995 night 21-35 PM i became literally mad an di was not in my control.Only on 27th June 1998 i was come out of the same.I became literally mad in Mercury -Moon period. SSBrahmaanda Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.com Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 12:18:42 PMRe: Physcological imbalance HiMoon-Mercury, Moon-Rahu and Moon-Saturn affliction will influence on mental imbalance.Note:this imbalance is often seen in the charts of great saint, research scholars too.Swami vivekananda born with Moon-Saturn in Virgo , hence his Philoshophical lore was great which live long. Dr.B.V.Raman with Moon-Saturn in Taurus resulted in great works/books by his pen.In very few cases these three combination make mental worries/mentally disturbed etc.Depends on the other aspects of the chart.In my own case Moon-Saturn together in Libra resulted in " benefic dots and percentage of seats/marks " and " Mirrorology' RegardsSahhasra Saagara Laxmi T <tirulaxmi >@gro ups.comTuesday, 14 July, 2009 8:45:20 AM Physcological imbalance Dear all,In kp, how to see the Physiological imbalance (Mental fluctuations) in the chart? Is it seen through serious afflictions of moon and mercury? with regardstirulaxmi Looking for local information? Find it on Local Looking for local information? Find it on Local Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 Dear Punitji, The quote is a verbatim reproduction from the book "Medical Astrology For All" by : Messrs K.Subramaniam,K.Balachandran and Vaikary Ramamurthy... second edition,1994. With kind regards, Yogesh Lajmi. Punit Pandey <punitp Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:21:03 PMRe: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases Dear Lajmi ji, The quote too looks like from a traditional astrology book rather than KP astrology book. 'Afflicted' is also not a popular KP terminology and should be avoided, in my opinion. Can you please elaborate it more in a KP language, so that KP beginners can understand it. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: Dear Members, As per K.P. Principles,Mental Diseases are caused if : 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is afflicted...and... 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted...and... 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousness is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... ) For more detailed information members are recommended to read the excellent book "MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL" by Mr.K.Subramaniam & Mr.Vaikary Ramamurthy. With the very best wishes, Yogesh Lajmi. GOOD LUCK ! rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >@gro ups.comTuesday, July 14, 2009 6:37:21 PM Physcological imbalance Namaste Sagar Ji, You said moon-ketu, moon-rahu, moon-mercury effect mental disorders but is it only in perticular lagna or rashis combination or more likely every where pls confirm this because I see in this one kundali moon-rahu & moon-mercury opposit each other but until now its all perfect & person is very inteligent & active but check his is he may be in later older age could get mental disorders? I know one thing this person is very very emotional meaning even though he is MAN but he crys in every tv serials or he cannot see any one crying because then he gets emotinal right away so there had be one reason from this combination let me tell his info may-12-57, 04;25am, 12n45, 45e12 gmt-3hrs east [aden-yemen] thanks rashmi Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.comTuesday, July 14, 2009 8:25:58 AMRe: Physcological imbalance HiI too was literally mad for 4 years.On 31st December 1995 night 21-35 PM i became literally mad an di was not in my control.Only on 27th June 1998 i was come out of the same.I became literally mad in Mercury -Moon period.SSBrahmaanda Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.comTuesday, 14 July, 2009 12:18:42 PMRe: Physcological imbalance HiMoon-Mercury, Moon-Rahu and Moon-Saturn affliction will influence on mental imbalance.Note:this imbalance is often seen in the charts of great saint, research scholars too.Swami vivekananda born with Moon-Saturn in Virgo , hence his Philoshophical lore was great which live long.Dr.B.V.Raman with Moon-Saturn in Taurus resulted in great works/books by his pen.In very few cases these three combination make mental worries/mentally disturbed etc.Depends on the other aspects of the chart.In my own case Moon-Saturn together in Libra resulted in "benefic dots and percentage of seats/marks" and "Mirrorology'RegardsSahhasra Saagara Laxmi T <tirulaxmi >@gro ups.comTuesday, 14 July, 2009 8:45:20 AM Physcological imbalance Dear all,In kp, how to see the Physiological imbalance (Mental fluctuations) in the chart? Is it seen through serious afflictions of moon and mercury? with regardstirulaxmi Looking for local information? Find it on Local Looking for local information? Find it on Local Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 Dear Mr.Punit & members I have an interesting horoscope (attached for reference) with Moon-Ketu-Mercury-Sun conjunction in the sixth house receiving 3rd aspect from Sat. This girl is age 37 and still not married in spite of being good looking and educated iam told. She earns ok and runs the family. Her brother had come to me to know about her marriage.She doesnt have have any mental imbalance so far. However, 2 important things worth noting here is (a) she is the boss in the house and everyone including elders just accept whatever she has to do and say. They are just helpless and (b) she has had couple of affairs in the past. Do we take these two points as a case of mental imbalance? She refuses to get married and threatens to leave the house if anyone tries to force her to get married. Is this mental imbalance? Is this happening due to the conjunction of sun-mer-moon-ket in 7th in the lagna chart receiving aspect from sat in 5th? When and will she get married at all? Though the 7thsub lord does strongly signify the required houses by its own and its sub lord significance, as per brother, doesn’t look like happening. Request views of one n all. Regards, Ajoy --- On Tue, 14/7/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:Punit Pandey <punitpRe: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases Date: Tuesday, 14 July, 2009, 8:21 PM Dear Lajmi ji, The quote too looks like from a traditional astrology book rather than KP astrology book. 'Afflicted' is also not a popular KP terminology and should be avoided, in my opinion. Can you please elaborate it more in a KP language, so that KP beginners can understand it. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: Dear Members, As per K.P. Principles,Mental Diseases are caused if : 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is afflicted...and... 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted...and... 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousness is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... ) For more detailed information members are recommended to read the excellent book "MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL" by Mr.K.Subramaniam & Mr.Vaikary Ramamurthy. With the very best wishes, Yogesh Lajmi. GOOD LUCK ! rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >@gro ups.com Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:37:21 PM Physcological imbalance Namaste Sagar Ji, You said moon-ketu, moon-rahu, moon-mercury effect mental disorders but is it only in perticular lagna or rashis combination or more likely every where pls confirm this because I see in this one kundali moon-rahu & moon-mercury opposit each other but until now its all perfect & person is very inteligent & active but check his is he may be in later older age could get mental disorders? I know one thing this person is very very emotional meaning even though he is MAN but he crys in every tv serials or he cannot see any one crying because then he gets emotinal right away so there had be one reason from this combination let me tell his info may-12-57, 04;25am, 12n45, 45e12 gmt-3hrs east [aden-yemen] thanks rashmi Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co..in>@gro ups.com Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:25:58 AMRe: Physcological imbalance HiI too was literally mad for 4 years.On 31st December 1995 night 21-35 PM i became literally mad an di was not in my control.Only on 27th June 1998 i was come out of the same.I became literally mad in Mercury -Moon period. SSBrahmaanda Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.com Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 12:18:42 PMRe: Physcological imbalance HiMoon-Mercury, Moon-Rahu and Moon-Saturn affliction will influence on mental imbalance.Note:this imbalance is often seen in the charts of great saint, research scholars too.Swami vivekananda born with Moon-Saturn in Virgo , hence his Philoshophical lore was great which live long. Dr.B.V.Raman with Moon-Saturn in Taurus resulted in great works/books by his pen.In very few cases these three combination make mental worries/mentally disturbed etc.Depends on the other aspects of the chart.In my own case Moon-Saturn together in Libra resulted in "benefic dots and percentage of seats/marks" and "Mirrorology' RegardsSahhasra Saagara Laxmi T <tirulaxmi (AT) (DOT) . com>@gro ups.comTuesday, 14 July, 2009 8:45:20 AM Physcological imbalance Dear all,In kp, how to see the Physiological imbalance (Mental fluctuations) in the chart? Is it seen through serious afflictions of moon and mercury? with regardstirulaxmi Looking for local information? Find it on Local Looking for local information? Find it on Local Looking for local information? Find it on Local 1 of 1 File(s) xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 Hi Nothing to worry as next coming dasha is mercury signifies 2,7,11 thro sub. but he will be little nervous weaknes in moon bhukti as Moon is 6th lod with Rahu. Note his lagna and lagna sub lord Sat in9th cusp and in the star of Mercury and in the sub of Ketu in 2nd will bestow him good health mentally.only weakness in general. he will be like kid in nature. All the best at all moments. Sahhasra Saagara "Brahmaanda" Mirrorology-Vastu: If he sleep at SW room of the residence and pillow at SSW will be good.Remove mirror at his room. Place one Hanuman photo above his pillow (hanuman without rama,sita,lakshmana). Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi Cc: Punit Pandey <punitpTuesday, 14 July, 2009 9:19:21 PMRe: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases Dear Punitji, The quote is a verbatim reproduction from the book "Medical Astrology For All" by : Messrs K.Subramaniam, K.Balachandran and Vaikary Ramamurthy.. . second edition,1994. With kind regards, Yogesh Lajmi. Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>@gro ups.comTuesday, July 14, 2009 8:21:03 PMRe: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases Dear Lajmi ji, The quote too looks like from a traditional astrology book rather than KP astrology book. 'Afflicted' is also not a popular KP terminology and should be avoided, in my opinion. Can you please elaborate it more in a KP language, so that KP beginners can understand it. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: Dear Members, As per K.P. Principles,Mental Diseases are caused if : 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is afflicted...and... 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted...and... 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousness is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... ) For more detailed information members are recommended to read the excellent book "MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL" by Mr.K.Subramaniam & Mr.Vaikary Ramamurthy. With the very best wishes, Yogesh Lajmi. GOOD LUCK ! rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >@gro ups.comTuesday, July 14, 2009 6:37:21 PM Physcological imbalance Namaste Sagar Ji, You said moon-ketu, moon-rahu, moon-mercury effect mental disorders but is it only in perticular lagna or rashis combination or more likely every where pls confirm this because I see in this one kundali moon-rahu & moon-mercury opposit each other but until now its all perfect & person is very inteligent & active but check his is he may be in later older age could get mental disorders? I know one thing this person is very very emotional meaning even though he is MAN but he crys in every tv serials or he cannot see any one crying because then he gets emotinal right away so there had be one reason from this combination let me tell his info may-12-57, 04;25am, 12n45, 45e12 gmt-3hrs east [aden-yemen] thanks rashmi Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.comTuesday, July 14, 2009 8:25:58 AMRe: Physcological imbalance HiI too was literally mad for 4 years.On 31st December 1995 night 21-35 PM i became literally mad an di was not in my control.Only on 27th June 1998 i was come out of the same.I became literally mad in Mercury -Moon period.SSBrahmaanda Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.comTuesday, 14 July, 2009 12:18:42 PMRe: Physcological imbalance HiMoon-Mercury, Moon-Rahu and Moon-Saturn affliction will influence on mental imbalance.Note:this imbalance is often seen in the charts of great saint, research scholars too.Swami vivekananda born with Moon-Saturn in Virgo , hence his Philoshophical lore was great which live long.Dr.B.V.Raman with Moon-Saturn in Taurus resulted in great works/books by his pen.In very few cases these three combination make mental worries/mentally disturbed etc.Depends on the other aspects of the chart.In my own case Moon-Saturn together in Libra resulted in "benefic dots and percentage of seats/marks" and "Mirrorology'RegardsSahhasra Saagara Laxmi T <tirulaxmi >@gro ups.comTuesday, 14 July, 2009 8:45:20 AM Physcological imbalance Dear all,In kp, how to see the Physiological imbalance (Mental fluctuations) in the chart? Is it seen through serious afflictions of moon and mercury? with regardstirulaxmi Looking for local information? Find it on Local Looking for local information? Find it on Local ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ http://mail. Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 Dear Ajoy ji, While explaining Punarphoo (http://logy.astrosage.com/punarphoo), Shri KSK has mentioned that Saturn in 5th is also Punarphoo. Saturn is also aspecting Moon and 7th house and it is also delaying factor. Also while explaining Mars dosha, Shri KSK has mentioned that Mars in 8th is also a delaying factor. Combining all this, delay is there for sure which we are already seeing. Though the question is about denial. If denial there? 7th CSL Moon is in 6th in the start of Jupiter l/o 12th in 11th. There is no planet in the star of Moon, hence Moon also signifies 7th house strongly. According to traditional astrology, Moon is in it's own sign and vargottama which is also improving 7th house. So in my opinion, denial is not there as far as natal chart is concerned. Though it is important that one should get a supportive dasa for the fructification of the event and I guess it is not happening in this chart. Most importantly Mercury spoiled this chart being very strong significator of 6th house. This dasa controlled majority of her youth period. Though I see one ray of hope. Ketu being very close to Moon is acting as an agent of Moon. Present Ketu mahadasa is definitely best among all previous mahadasas. You said that she is not very interested in marriage and that can be understood due to Mercury mahadasa, this tells the power of planets. With the start of Ketu's dasa, her mindset will start changing a little bit and she will start thinking about marriage more positively. Though I am not a big fan of gems, still we can experiment with suggesting her Pearl, it can give a little more strength to the Moon. Praying for Durga (Mercury) can also help. To sum up, with the change in mahadasa, I am positive about marriage. Wish her and her family all the best. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Sagar S <ssagar86 wrote: Hi Ajoy Mostly girl may remain virgin as 7th cusp sub lord is significator of 6an d12th thro' stellar and sub. 7th lord Moon too signifies 6th and 12th. Moon with retrograde mercury indicates mentally imbalance. Mentally imbalance in perticular aspect of life is also considered thro' the placement of combination. Most of Intellectuals have this combination. In the case xxx yyy Moon is lord of 7th cusp and sub lord of 7th cusp.with 6th and 9th lord. SSB ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 10:19:59 PMRe: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases [1 Attachment] Dear Mr.Punit & members I have an interesting horoscope (attached for reference) with Moon-Ketu-Mercury- Sun conjunction in the sixth house receiving 3rd aspect from Sat. This girl is age 37 and still not married in spite of being good looking and educated iam told. She earns ok and runs the family. Her brother had come to me to know about her marriage.She doesnt have have any mental imbalance so far. However, 2 important things worth noting here is (a) she is the boss in the house and everyone including elders just accept whatever she has to do and say. They are just helpless and (b) she has had couple of affairs in the past. Do we take these two points as a case of mental imbalance? She refuses to get married and threatens to leave the house if anyone tries to force her to get married. Is this mental imbalance? Is this happening due to the conjunction of sun-mer-moon- ket in 7th in the lagna chart receiving aspect from sat in 5th? When and will she get married at all? Though the 7thsub lord does strongly signify the required houses by its own and its sub lord significance, as per brother, doesn’t look like happening. Request views of one n all. Regards, Ajoy --- On Tue, 14/7/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases @gro ups.comTuesday, 14 July, 2009, 8:21 PM Dear Lajmi ji, The quote too looks like from a traditional astrology book rather than KP astrology book. 'Afflicted' is also not a popular KP terminology and should be avoided, in my opinion. Can you please elaborate it more in a KP language, so that KP beginners can understand it. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: Dear Members, As per K.P. Principles,Mental Diseases are caused if : 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is afflicted...and... 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted...and... 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousness is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... ) For more detailed information members are recommended to read the excellent book " MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL " by Mr.K.Subramaniam & Mr.Vaikary Ramamurthy. With the very best wishes, Yogesh Lajmi. GOOD LUCK ! rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >@gro ups.com Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:37:21 PM Physcological imbalance Namaste Sagar Ji, You said moon-ketu, moon-rahu, moon-mercury effect mental disorders but is it only in perticular lagna or rashis combination or more likely every where pls confirm this because I see in this one kundali moon-rahu & moon-mercury opposit each other but until now its all perfect & person is very inteligent & active but check his is he may be in later older age could get mental disorders? I know one thing this person is very very emotional meaning even though he is MAN but he crys in every tv serials or he cannot see any one crying because then he gets emotinal right away so there had be one reason from this combination let me tell his info may-12-57, 04;25am, 12n45, 45e12 gmt-3hrs east [aden-yemen] thanks rashmi Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co..in>@gro ups.com Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:25:58 AMRe: Physcological imbalance HiI too was literally mad for 4 years.On 31st December 1995 night 21-35 PM i became literally mad an di was not in my control.Only on 27th June 1998 i was come out of the same.I became literally mad in Mercury -Moon period. SSBrahmaanda Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.com Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 12:18:42 PMRe: Physcological imbalance HiMoon-Mercury, Moon-Rahu and Moon-Saturn affliction will influence on mental imbalance.Note:this imbalance is often seen in the charts of great saint, research scholars too.Swami vivekananda born with Moon-Saturn in Virgo , hence his Philoshophical lore was great which live long. Dr.B.V.Raman with Moon-Saturn in Taurus resulted in great works/books by his pen.In very few cases these three combination make mental worries/mentally disturbed etc.Depends on the other aspects of the chart.In my own case Moon-Saturn together in Libra resulted in " benefic dots and percentage of seats/marks " and " Mirrorology' RegardsSahhasra Saagara Laxmi T <tirulaxmi (AT) (DOT) . com>@gro ups.com Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 8:45:20 AM Physcological imbalance Dear all,In kp, how to see the Physiological imbalance (Mental fluctuations) in the chart? 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Guest guest Posted July 15, 2009 Report Share Posted July 15, 2009 Respected Sirs, I fully agree with Sri. Punitji. Till now I have not found the definition of 'Affliction' in KP though it is frequently used in KP Readers. We need to define, what is affliction. How one planet or a cusp is afflicted, what aspects of planets afflicts others etc. What are evil aspects and what are good aspects? In LP, what I understood till now is that significators of VI, VII and XII are malifics, of course not all ways. It does not solely depent on what planet it is. Hence many things are to be clerified yet for KP followers. Hope some one will do needful. With my respect to one and all. Dr. Rath Punit Pandey <punitp Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:21:03 PMRe: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases Dear Lajmi ji, The quote too looks like from a traditional astrology book rather than KP astrology book. 'Afflicted' is also not a popular KP terminology and should be avoided, in my opinion. Can you please elaborate it more in a KP language, so that KP beginners can understand it. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: Dear Members, As per K.P. Principles,Mental Diseases are caused if : 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is afflicted...and... 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted...and... 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousness is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... ) For more detailed information members are recommended to read the excellent book "MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL" by Mr.K.Subramaniam & Mr.Vaikary Ramamurthy. With the very best wishes, Yogesh Lajmi. GOOD LUCK ! rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >@gro ups.comTuesday, July 14, 2009 6:37:21 PM Physcological imbalance Namaste Sagar Ji, You said moon-ketu, moon-rahu, moon-mercury effect mental disorders but is it only in perticular lagna or rashis combination or more likely every where pls confirm this because I see in this one kundali moon-rahu & moon-mercury opposit each other but until now its all perfect & person is very inteligent & active but check his is he may be in later older age could get mental disorders? I know one thing this person is very very emotional meaning even though he is MAN but he crys in every tv serials or he cannot see any one crying because then he gets emotinal right away so there had be one reason from this combination let me tell his info may-12-57, 04;25am, 12n45, 45e12 gmt-3hrs east [aden-yemen] thanks rashmi Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.comTuesday, July 14, 2009 8:25:58 AMRe: Physcological imbalance HiI too was literally mad for 4 years.On 31st December 1995 night 21-35 PM i became literally mad an di was not in my control.Only on 27th June 1998 i was come out of the same.I became literally mad in Mercury -Moon period.SSBrahmaanda Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.comTuesday, 14 July, 2009 12:18:42 PMRe: Physcological imbalance HiMoon-Mercury, Moon-Rahu and Moon-Saturn affliction will influence on mental imbalance.Note:this imbalance is often seen in the charts of great saint, research scholars too.Swami vivekananda born with Moon-Saturn in Virgo , hence his Philoshophical lore was great which live long.Dr.B.V.Raman with Moon-Saturn in Taurus resulted in great works/books by his pen.In very few cases these three combination make mental worries/mentally disturbed etc.Depends on the other aspects of the chart.In my own case Moon-Saturn together in Libra resulted in "benefic dots and percentage of seats/marks" and "Mirrorology'RegardsSahhasra Saagara Laxmi T <tirulaxmi >@gro ups.comTuesday, 14 July, 2009 8:45:20 AM Physcological imbalance Dear all,In kp, how to see the Physiological imbalance (Mental fluctuations) in the chart? Is it seen through serious afflictions of moon and mercury? with regardstirulaxmi Looking for local information? Find it on Local Looking for local information? Find it on Local Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2009 Report Share Posted July 15, 2009 Dear Punit, First of all,an 'affliction' and 'infliction'(are simple English words,) and are almost always considered in an evil context,exceptions do exist,ofcourse...eg., afflicted by a contagious disease as distinct from ....and he"inflicted defeat" on his enemy/opponent...and so on....an infliction is brought about by an external agency,while an affliction is due mostly due to one's own lack of immunity/mistake/weakness and so on...this is a rough and ready explanation,but I suppose it serves the limited purpose... To quote further from Medical Astrology for All, p68,2nd Edition...1994 : According to K.P., "...the VIth house shows disease,the VIIIth danger,and the XIIth, hospitalisation...The sunlord of the VIth cusp is the final deciding factor about the disease. Tendency to get/contract disease also depends upon the Dasa-lord,Bhukti-lord and Anthara-lord,and the Planets connected to the VI & Lagna will give rise to disease,in their conjoined periods. If the s/l of the VIth is in the XIIth, and becomes a strong significator of the VIth,then the native will surely suffer from an incureable ailment... If the s/l of the VIth is in the VIIth,and is connected to Houses,III,V & IX...mental aberation is caused...during the conjoint periods of the significators,of these houses... The IIrd house represents the mind...and the other houses related to the mind are I,V & IX...and the higher mind is denoted by the IXth and the lower by the IIIrd...(sic). The rest I have sent in my first mail,assuming that most K.P. Followers have already read this enlightening book... And finally, I urge K.P. enthusiasts to study this book carefully and thoroughly...ofcourse, due allowance needs to be made for the poor quality of editing and the English language which seems to be a verbatim translation from Tamil into English....like with most Krishman & Co., books...quite unfortunately... With kind regards, Yogesh Lajmi... GOOD LUCK ! Luther Rath <rathluther Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:41:40 AMRe: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases Respected Sirs, I fully agree with Sri. Punitji. Till now I have not found the definition of 'Affliction' in KP though it is frequently used in KP Readers. We need to define, what is affliction. How one planet or a cusp is afflicted, what aspects of planets afflicts others etc. What are evil aspects and what are good aspects? In LP, what I understood till now is that significators of VI, VII and XII are malifics, of course not all ways. It does not solely depent on what planet it is. Hence many things are to be clerified yet for KP followers. Hope some one will do needful. With my respect to one and all. Dr. Rath Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>@gro ups.comTuesday, July 14, 2009 8:21:03 PMRe: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases Dear Lajmi ji, The quote too looks like from a traditional astrology book rather than KP astrology book. 'Afflicted' is also not a popular KP terminology and should be avoided, in my opinion. Can you please elaborate it more in a KP language, so that KP beginners can understand it. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: Dear Members, As per K.P. Principles,Mental Diseases are caused if : 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is afflicted...and... 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted...and.... 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousness is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... ) For more detailed information members are recommended to read the excellent book "MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL" by Mr.K.Subramaniam & Mr.Vaikary Ramamurthy. With the very best wishes, Yogesh Lajmi. GOOD LUCK ! rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >@gro ups.comTuesday, July 14, 2009 6:37:21 PM Physcological imbalance Namaste Sagar Ji, You said moon-ketu, moon-rahu, moon-mercury effect mental disorders but is it only in perticular lagna or rashis combination or more likely every where pls confirm this because I see in this one kundali moon-rahu & moon-mercury opposit each other but until now its all perfect & person is very inteligent & active but check his is he may be in later older age could get mental disorders? I know one thing this person is very very emotional meaning even though he is MAN but he crys in every tv serials or he cannot see any one crying because then he gets emotinal right away so there had be one reason from this combination let me tell his info may-12-57, 04;25am, 12n45, 45e12 gmt-3hrs east [aden-yemen] thanks rashmi Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.comTuesday, July 14, 2009 8:25:58 AMRe: Physcological imbalance HiI too was literally mad for 4 years.On 31st December 1995 night 21-35 PM i became literally mad an di was not in my control.Only on 27th June 1998 i was come out of the same.I became literally mad in Mercury -Moon period.SSBrahmaanda Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.comTuesday, 14 July, 2009 12:18:42 PMRe: Physcological imbalance HiMoon-Mercury, Moon-Rahu and Moon-Saturn affliction will influence on mental imbalance.Note:this imbalance is often seen in the charts of great saint, research scholars too.Swami vivekananda born with Moon-Saturn in Virgo , hence his Philoshophical lore was great which live long.Dr.B.V.Raman with Moon-Saturn in Taurus resulted in great works/books by his pen.In very few cases these three combination make mental worries/mentally disturbed etc.Depends on the other aspects of the chart.In my own case Moon-Saturn together in Libra resulted in "benefic dots and percentage of seats/marks" and "Mirrorology'RegardsSahhasra Saagara Laxmi T <tirulaxmi >@gro ups.comTuesday, 14 July, 2009 8:45:20 AM Physcological imbalance Dear all,In kp, how to see the Physiological imbalance (Mental fluctuations) in the chart? Is it seen through serious afflictions of moon and mercury? with regardstirulaxmi Looking for local information? Find it on Local Looking for local information? Find it on Local Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2009 Report Share Posted July 15, 2009 Dear Lajmi ji, Thanks for the detailed reply. I understand that English word 'affliction'. I also understand meaning of this word in the context of traditional astrology, but I am not sure about meaning of this word in the context of KP. It requires further clarification. As correctly mentioned by Luther ji, we find reference of these words in some of the KP books which makes the rule difficult to understand by a KP astrologer. Word 'affliction' is open for interpretation. Let us take all three rules one by one - 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is afflicted...and... What does it mean - a) Aries having significators of 6, 8, 12? b) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary aspect from the significators of 6, 8, 12? c) Aries having cuspal sub lords of 6, 8, 12? d) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary aspect from the cuspal sublords of 6, 8, 12? 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted...and.... a) If these planets are significators of 6, 8, 12? b) If these planets receiving Hindu planetary aspect of the significators of 6, 8, 12? c) If these planets receiving bad western aspects. Remember all western aspects are classified as either good or bad. a) If these planets are cuspal sub lord of of 6, 8, 12? 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousness is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... ) a) if these houses are occupied by significators of 6, 8, 12? b) if the cuspal sub lord of these houses are significators of 6, 8, 12? (At least in case of house, this looks like most possible definition to me) c) If these cusps are receiving malefic Western asepcts. d) If these houses are aspected by significators of 6, 8, 12 I want to point out that the word 'afflication' in ambiguous in the context of KP and need strict definition. These kind of statements bring the ambiguity back for which traditional astrology is blamed and should be avoided as much as possible. To sum-up, we need to define 'afflication to sign', 'afflication to planet' and 'afflication to house' more clearly. Once defined, life of a KP student will become easy, also it will bring clarity to our discussion. I hope now you understand reason behind my previous email. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi wrote: Dear Punit, First of all,an 'affliction' and 'infliction'(are simple English words,) and are almost always considered in an evil context,exceptions do exist,ofcourse...eg., afflicted by a contagious disease as distinct from ....and he " inflicted defeat " on his enemy/opponent...and so on....an infliction is brought about by an external agency,while an affliction is due mostly due to one's own lack of immunity/mistake/weakness and so on...this is a rough and ready explanation,but I suppose it serves the limited purpose... To quote further from Medical Astrology for All, p68,2nd Edition...1994 : According to K.P., " ...the VIth house shows disease,the VIIIth danger,and the XIIth, hospitalisation...The sunlord of the VIth cusp is the final deciding factor about the disease. Tendency to get/contract disease also depends upon the Dasa-lord,Bhukti-lord and Anthara-lord,and the Planets connected to the VI & Lagna will give rise to disease,in their conjoined periods. If the s/l of the VIth is in the XIIth, and becomes a strong significator of the VIth,then the native will surely suffer from an incureable ailment... If the s/l of the VIth is in the VIIth,and is connected to Houses,III,V & IX...mental aberation is caused...during the conjoint periods of the significators,of these houses... The IIrd house represents the mind...and the other houses related to the mind are I,V & IX...and the higher mind is denoted by the IXth and the lower by the IIIrd...(sic). The rest I have sent in my first mail,assuming that most K.P. Followers have already read this enlightening book... And finally, I urge K.P. enthusiasts to study this book carefully and thoroughly...ofcourse, due allowance needs to be made for the poor quality of editing and the English language which seems to be a verbatim translation from Tamil into English....like with most Krishman & Co., books...quite unfortunately... With kind regards, Yogesh Lajmi... GOOD LUCK ! Luther Rath <rathluther Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:41:40 AM Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases Respected Sirs, I fully agree with Sri. Punitji. Till now I have not found the definition of 'Affliction' in KP though it is frequently used in KP Readers. We need to define, what is affliction. How one planet or a cusp is afflicted, what aspects of planets afflicts others etc. What are evil aspects and what are good aspects? In LP, what I understood till now is that significators of VI, VII and XII are malifics, of course not all ways. It does not solely depent on what planet it is. Hence many things are to be clerified yet for KP followers. Hope some one will do needful. With my respect to one and all. Dr. Rath Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> @gro ups.comTuesday, July 14, 2009 8:21:03 PM Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases Dear Lajmi ji, The quote too looks like from a traditional astrology book rather than KP astrology book. 'Afflicted' is also not a popular KP terminology and should be avoided, in my opinion. Can you please elaborate it more in a KP language, so that KP beginners can understand it. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: Dear Members, As per K.P. Principles,Mental Diseases are caused if : 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is afflicted...and... 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted...and.... 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousness is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... ) For more detailed information members are recommended to read the excellent book " MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL " by Mr.K.Subramaniam & Mr.Vaikary Ramamurthy. With the very best wishes, Yogesh Lajmi. GOOD LUCK ! rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >@gro ups.com Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:37:21 PM Physcological imbalance Namaste Sagar Ji, You said moon-ketu, moon-rahu, moon-mercury effect mental disorders but is it only in perticular lagna or rashis combination or more likely every where pls confirm this because I see in this one kundali moon-rahu & moon-mercury opposit each other but until now its all perfect & person is very inteligent & active but check his is he may be in later older age could get mental disorders? I know one thing this person is very very emotional meaning even though he is MAN but he crys in every tv serials or he cannot see any one crying because then he gets emotinal right away so there had be one reason from this combination let me tell his info may-12-57, 04;25am, 12n45, 45e12 gmt-3hrs east [aden-yemen] thanks rashmi Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.com Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:25:58 AMRe: Physcological imbalance HiI too was literally mad for 4 years.On 31st December 1995 night 21-35 PM i became literally mad an di was not in my control.Only on 27th June 1998 i was come out of the same.I became literally mad in Mercury -Moon period. SSBrahmaanda Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.com Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 12:18:42 PMRe: Physcological imbalance HiMoon-Mercury, Moon-Rahu and Moon-Saturn affliction will influence on mental imbalance.Note:this imbalance is often seen in the charts of great saint, research scholars too.Swami vivekananda born with Moon-Saturn in Virgo , hence his Philoshophical lore was great which live long. Dr.B.V.Raman with Moon-Saturn in Taurus resulted in great works/books by his pen.In very few cases these three combination make mental worries/mentally disturbed etc.Depends on the other aspects of the chart.In my own case Moon-Saturn together in Libra resulted in " benefic dots and percentage of seats/marks " and " Mirrorology' RegardsSahhasra Saagara Laxmi T <tirulaxmi >@gro ups.com Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 8:45:20 AM Physcological imbalance Dear all,In kp, how to see the Physiological imbalance (Mental fluctuations) in the chart? Is it seen through serious afflictions of moon and mercury? with regardstirulaxmi Looking for local information? Find it on Local Looking for local information? Find it on Local Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2009 Report Share Posted July 15, 2009 Dear Punit, I strongly recommend you get the book MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL... I am sure you will be clear about the use of K.P. in the Medical diagnoses of diseases... With best wishes, Yogesh Lajmi. Punit Pandey <punitp Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:56:06 PMRe: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases Dear Lajmi ji, Thanks for the detailed reply. I understand that English word 'affliction'. I also understand meaning of this word in the context of traditional astrology, but I am not sure about meaning of this word in the context of KP. It requires further clarification. As correctly mentioned by Luther ji, we find reference of these words in some of the KP books which makes the rule difficult to understand by a KP astrologer. Word 'affliction' is open for interpretation. Let us take all three rules one by one - 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is afflicted...and... What does it mean - a) Aries having significators of 6, 8, 12? b) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary aspect from the significators of 6, 8, 12? c) Aries having cuspal sub lords of 6, 8, 12? d) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary aspect from the cuspal sublords of 6, 8, 12? 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted...and.... a) If these planets are significators of 6, 8, 12? b) If these planets receiving Hindu planetary aspect of the significators of 6, 8, 12? c) If these planets receiving bad western aspects. Remember all western aspects are classified as either good or bad.. a) If these planets are cuspal sub lord of of 6, 8, 12? 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousness is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... ) a) if these houses are occupied by significators of 6, 8, 12? b) if the cuspal sub lord of these houses are significators of 6, 8, 12? (At least in case of house, this looks like most possible definition to me) c) If these cusps are receiving malefic Western asepcts. d) If these houses are aspected by significators of 6, 8, 12 I want to point out that the word 'afflication' in ambiguous in the context of KP and need strict definition. These kind of statements bring the ambiguity back for which traditional astrology is blamed and should be avoided as much as possible. To sum-up, we need to define 'afflication to sign', 'afflication to planet' and 'afflication to house' more clearly. Once defined, life of a KP student will become easy, also it will bring clarity to our discussion. I hope now you understand reason behind my previous email. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: Dear Punit, First of all,an 'affliction' and 'infliction'(are simple English words,) and are almost always considered in an evil context,exceptions do exist,ofcourse. ..eg., afflicted by a contagious disease as distinct from ....and he"inflicted defeat" on his enemy/opponent. ..and so on....an infliction is brought about by an external agency,while an affliction is due mostly due to one's own lack of immunity/mistake/ weakness and so on...this is a rough and ready explanation, but I suppose it serves the limited purpose... To quote further from Medical Astrology for All, p68,2nd Edition...1994 : According to K.P., "...the VIth house shows disease,the VIIIth danger,and the XIIth, hospitalisation. ..The sunlord of the VIth cusp is the final deciding factor about the disease. Tendency to get/contract disease also depends upon the Dasa-lord,Bhukti- lord and Anthara-lord, and the Planets connected to the VI & Lagna will give rise to disease,in their conjoined periods. If the s/l of the VIth is in the XIIth, and becomes a strong significator of the VIth,then the native will surely suffer from an incureable ailment... If the s/l of the VIth is in the VIIth,and is connected to Houses,III,V & IX...mental aberation is caused...during the conjoint periods of the significators, of these houses... The IIrd house represents the mind...and the other houses related to the mind are I,V & IX...and the higher mind is denoted by the IXth and the lower by the IIIrd...(sic) . The rest I have sent in my first mail,assuming that most K.P. Followers have already read this enlightening book... And finally, I urge K.P. enthusiasts to study this book carefully and thoroughly.. .ofcourse, due allowance needs to be made for the poor quality of editing and the English language which seems to be a verbatim translation from Tamil into English....like with most Krishman & Co., books...quite unfortunately. .. With kind regards, Yogesh Lajmi... GOOD LUCK ! Luther Rath <rathluther > @gro ups.comWednesday, July 15, 2009 9:41:40 AM Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases Respected Sirs, I fully agree with Sri. Punitji. Till now I have not found the definition of 'Affliction' in KP though it is frequently used in KP Readers. We need to define, what is affliction. How one planet or a cusp is afflicted, what aspects of planets afflicts others etc. What are evil aspects and what are good aspects? In LP, what I understood till now is that significators of VI, VII and XII are malifics, of course not all ways. It does not solely depent on what planet it is. Hence many things are to be clerified yet for KP followers. Hope some one will do needful. With my respect to one and all. Dr. Rath Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> @gro ups.comTuesday, July 14, 2009 8:21:03 PMRe: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases Dear Lajmi ji, The quote too looks like from a traditional astrology book rather than KP astrology book. 'Afflicted' is also not a popular KP terminology and should be avoided, in my opinion. Can you please elaborate it more in a KP language, so that KP beginners can understand it. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: Dear Members, As per K.P. Principles,Mental Diseases are caused if : 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is afflicted...and... 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted...and.... 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousness is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... ) For more detailed information members are recommended to read the excellent book "MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL" by Mr.K.Subramaniam & Mr.Vaikary Ramamurthy. With the very best wishes, Yogesh Lajmi. GOOD LUCK ! rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >@gro ups.comTuesday, July 14, 2009 6:37:21 PM Physcological imbalance Namaste Sagar Ji, You said moon-ketu, moon-rahu, moon-mercury effect mental disorders but is it only in perticular lagna or rashis combination or more likely every where pls confirm this because I see in this one kundali moon-rahu & moon-mercury opposit each other but until now its all perfect & person is very inteligent & active but check his is he may be in later older age could get mental disorders? I know one thing this person is very very emotional meaning even though he is MAN but he crys in every tv serials or he cannot see any one crying because then he gets emotinal right away so there had be one reason from this combination let me tell his info may-12-57, 04;25am, 12n45, 45e12 gmt-3hrs east [aden-yemen] thanks rashmi Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.comTuesday, July 14, 2009 8:25:58 AMRe: Physcological imbalance HiI too was literally mad for 4 years.On 31st December 1995 night 21-35 PM i became literally mad an di was not in my control.Only on 27th June 1998 i was come out of the same.I became literally mad in Mercury -Moon period.SSBrahmaanda Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.comTuesday, 14 July, 2009 12:18:42 PMRe: Physcological imbalance HiMoon-Mercury, Moon-Rahu and Moon-Saturn affliction will influence on mental imbalance.Note:this imbalance is often seen in the charts of great saint, research scholars too.Swami vivekananda born with Moon-Saturn in Virgo , hence his Philoshophical lore was great which live long.Dr.B.V.Raman with Moon-Saturn in Taurus resulted in great works/books by his pen.In very few cases these three combination make mental worries/mentally disturbed etc.Depends on the other aspects of the chart.In my own case Moon-Saturn together in Libra resulted in "benefic dots and percentage of seats/marks" and "Mirrorology'RegardsSahhasra Saagara Laxmi T <tirulaxmi >@gro ups.comTuesday, 14 July, 2009 8:45:20 AM Physcological imbalance Dear all,In kp, how to see the Physiological imbalance (Mental fluctuations) in the chart? Is it seen through serious afflictions of moon and mercury? with regardstirulaxmi Looking for local information? Find it on Local Looking for local information? Find it on Local Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Dear Friends, 1. This book MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL by K. Subramanium or another book Astrological Diagnosis of Diseases by H. Hariharan may not help much to make clear the issue of 'inflicted' and to find the clear rules for mental disorder. 2. Infliction by traditional as well as Western aspects and houes 6,8,12 appears to be applied there. 3. In fact there is no place for 'inflicted' in KP since " the cusps indicate whether it is promised or not and sigificators point the time of event " ,(KP Reader V p 211/ New Edition p 224; KP Reader III pp 68, 148 & 194/ New Edition pp 226,313 & 362 ) and " one is to note what each planet can contribute always consider the sublord " . (KP Reader III p 194/ New Edition 362) 4. No planet is wholely malefic or benefic which depends on occupation and lordship at planet, star and sub levels. 5. This KP basic rule cannot be reconciled with malefic or benefic by Traditional and Western ideas and Western good and bad aspects. 6. In addition, E grade significators by conj & aspect are weak and usually used as the last resort since all planets may be E grade significators in most cases as found in SW-print out of KP significators table. 7. Moreover, only grade E significators aspected by grade A to D are to be cosidered. /message/7295 8. Anyway in KP medical aricles in place of 'inflicted' it has been replaced by occupation or conj or aspect (Hindu) of planets signifying 6,8,12, Maraka, Badhaka houses. 9. The following KP idea for mental disorder by Shri Bhatt may be worthy to try. /message/25760 Regards, tw , Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi wrote: > > Dear Punit, > I strongly recommend you get the book MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL... > I am sure you will be clear about the use of K.P. in the Medical diagnoses of diseases... > With best wishes, > Yogesh Lajmi. > > > > > ________________________________ > Punit Pandey <punitp > > Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:56:06 PM > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases > > > > > > Dear Lajmi ji, > > Thanks for the detailed reply. I understand that English word 'affliction'. I also understand meaning of this word in the context of traditional astrology, but I am not sure about meaning of this word in the context of KP. It requires further clarification. As correctly mentioned by Luther ji, we find reference of these words in some of the KP books which makes the rule difficult to understand by a KP astrologer. > > Word 'affliction' is open for interpretation. Let us take all three rules one by one - > > > 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna andit is afflicted...and... > What does it mean - > a) Aries having significators of 6, 8, 12? > b) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary aspect from the significators of 6, 8, 12? > c) Aries having cuspal sub lords of 6, 8, 12? > d) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary aspect from the cuspal sublords of 6, 8, 12? > > > > 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted...and.... > a) If these planets are significators of 6, 8, 12? > b) If these planets receiving Hindu planetary aspect of the significators of 6, 8, 12? > c) If these planets receiving bad western aspects. Remember all western aspects are classified as either good or bad. > a) If these planets are cuspal sub lord of of 6, 8, 12? > > > 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousness is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... ) > a) if these houses are occupied by significators of 6, 8, 12? > b) if the cuspal sub lord of these houses are significators of 6, 8, 12? (At least in case of house, this looks like most possible definition to me) > c) If these cusps are receiving malefic Western asepcts. > d) If these houses are aspected by significators of 6, 8, 12 > > I want to point out that the word 'afflication' in ambiguous in the context of KP and need strict definition. These kind of statements bring the ambiguity back for which traditional astrology is blamed and should be avoided as much as possible. > > To sum-up, we need to define 'afflication to sign', 'afflication to planet' and 'afflication to house' more clearly. Once defined, life of a KP student will become easy, also it will bring clarity to our discussion. > > I hope now you understand reason behind my previous email. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: > > Dear Punit, > > First of all,an 'affliction' and 'infliction'(are simple English words,) and are almost always considered in an evil context,exceptions do exist,ofcourse. ..eg., afflicted by a contagious disease as distinct from ....and he " inflicted defeat " on his enemy/opponent. ..and so on....aninfliction is brought about by an external agency,while an affliction is due mostly due to one's own lack of immunity/mistake/ weakness and so on...this is a rough and ready explanation, but I suppose it serves the limited purpose... > > To quote further from Medical Astrology for All, p68,2nd Edition...1994 : > > According to K.P., " ...the VIth house shows disease,the VIIIth danger,and the XIIth, > >hospitalisation. ..The sunlord of the VIth cusp is the final deciding factor about the disease. > > Tendency to get/contract disease also depends upon the Dasa-lord,Bhukti- lord and Anthara-lord, and the Planets connected to the VI & Lagna will give rise to disease,in their conjoined periods. > > If the s/l of the VIth is in the XIIth, and becomes a strong significator of the VIth,then the native will surely suffer from an incureable ailment... > > If the s/l of the VIth is in the VIIth,and is connected to Houses,III,V & IX...mental aberation is caused...during the conjoint periods of the significators, of these houses... > > The IIrd house represents the mind...and the other houses related to the mind are I,V & IX...and the higher mind is denoted by the IXth and the lower by the IIIrd...(sic) . > > The rest I have sent in my first mail,assuming that most K.P. Followers have already read this enlightening book... > > And finally, I urge K.P. enthusiasts to study this book carefully and thoroughly.. .ofcourse, due allowance needs to be made for the poor quality of editing and the English language which seems to be a verbatim translation from Tamil into English....like with most Krishman & Co., books...quite unfortunately. .. > > With kind regards, > > Yogesh Lajmi... > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > Luther Rath <rathluther > > > > >@gro ups.com > >Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:41:40 AM > > > >Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases > > > > > > > > > > > >Respected Sirs, > >I fully agree with Sri. Punitji. Till now I have not found the definition of 'Affliction' in KP though it is frequently used in KP Readers. We need to define, what is affliction. How one planet or a cusp is afflicted, what aspects of planets afflicts others etc. What are evil aspects and what are good aspects? In LP, what I understood till now is that significators of VI, VII and XII are malifics, of course not all ways. It does not solely depent on what planet it is. Hence many things are to be clerified yet for KP followers. > >Hope some one will do needful. > >With my respect to one and all. > >Dr. Rath > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> > > > >@gro ups.com > >Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:21:03 PM > >Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases > > > > > > > >Dear Lajmi ji, > > > >The quote too looks like from a traditional astrology book rather than KP astrology book. 'Afflicted' is also not a popular KP terminology and should be avoided, in my opinion. Can you please elaborate it more in a KP language, so that KP beginners can understand it. > > > >Thanks & Regards, > > > >Punit Pandey > > > > > > > >On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: > > > > > >> > >> > >>Dear Members, > >> As per K.P. Principles,Mental Diseases are caused if : > >> 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna andit is afflicted...and... > >> 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted...and.... > >> 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousness is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... ) > >> For more detailed information members are recommended to read the excellent book > >> " MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL " by Mr.K.Subramaniam & Mr.Vaikary Ramamurthy. > >> > >> With the very best wishes, > >> Yogesh Lajmi. > >> GOOD LUCK ! > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ > rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ > > >>@gro ups.com > >>Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:37:21 PM > >> Physcological imbalance > >> > >> > >>Namaste Sagar Ji, > >> > >>You said moon-ketu, moon-rahu, moon-mercury effect mental disorders but is it only in perticular lagna or rashis combination or more likely every where pls confirm this because I see in this one kundali moon-rahu & moon-mercury opposit each other but until now its all perfect & person is very inteligent & active but check his is he may be in later older age could get mental disorders? > >> > >>I know one thing this person is very very emotional meaning even though he is MAN but he crys in every tv serials or he cannot see any one crying because then he gets emotinal right away so > >>there had be one reason from this combination let me tell his info > >> > >>may-12-57, 04;25am, 12n45, 45e12 gmt-3hrs east [aden-yemen] > >> > >>thanks > >>rashmi > >> > >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ > Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > >>@gro ups.com > >>Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:25:58 AM > >>Re: Physcological imbalance > >> > >> > >>Hi > >>I too was literally mad for 4 years. > >>On 31st December 1995 night 21-35 PM i became literally mad an di was not in my control. > >>Only on 27th June 1998 i was come out of the same. > >>I became literally mad in Mercury -Moon period. > >>SSBrahmaanda > >> > >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ > Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > >>@gro ups.com > >>Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 12:18:42 PM > >>Re: Physcological imbalance > >> > >> > >>Hi > >>Moon-Mercury, Moon-Rahu and Moon-Saturn affliction will influence on mental imbalance. > >>Note: > >>this imbalance is often seen in the charts of great saint, research scholars too. > >>Swami vivekananda born with Moon-Saturn in Virgo , hence his Philoshophical lore was great which live long. > >>Dr.B.V.Raman with Moon-Saturn in Taurus resulted in great works/books by his pen. > >>In very few cases these three combination make mental worries/mentally disturbed etc. > >>Depends on the other aspects of the chart. > >>In my own case Moon-Saturn together in Libra resulted in " benefic dots and percentage of seats/marks " and " Mirrorology' > >>Regards > >>Sahhasra Saagara > >> > >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ > Laxmi T <tirulaxmi > > >>@gro ups.com > >>Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 8:45:20 AM > >> Physcological imbalance > >> > >> > >>Dear all, > >> > >>In kp, how to see the Physiological imbalance (Mental fluctuations) in the chart? Is it seen through serious afflictions of moon and mercury? > >> > >>with regards > >>tirulaxmi > >> > >> > >>________________________________ > Looking for local information? Find it on Local > >>________________________________ > Looking for local information? Find it on Local > >> > >> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Respected Punitji, I am highly impressed by your thumping presentation. We are in search of a defination. Let us expect opinion of all learned members. In my opinion the aspects followed by westerners be excluded as KP does not approve it clearly. Regards. Dr. Rath Punit Pandey <punitp Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:56:06 PMRe: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases Dear Lajmi ji, Thanks for the detailed reply. I understand that English word 'affliction'. I also understand meaning of this word in the context of traditional astrology, but I am not sure about meaning of this word in the context of KP. It requires further clarification. As correctly mentioned by Luther ji, we find reference of these words in some of the KP books which makes the rule difficult to understand by a KP astrologer. Word 'affliction' is open for interpretation. Let us take all three rules one by one - 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is afflicted...and... What does it mean - a) Aries having significators of 6, 8, 12? b) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary aspect from the significators of 6, 8, 12? c) Aries having cuspal sub lords of 6, 8, 12? d) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary aspect from the cuspal sublords of 6, 8, 12? 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted...and.... a) If these planets are significators of 6, 8, 12? b) If these planets receiving Hindu planetary aspect of the significators of 6, 8, 12? c) If these planets receiving bad western aspects. Remember all western aspects are classified as either good or bad. a) If these planets are cuspal sub lord of of 6, 8, 12? 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousness is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... ) a) if these houses are occupied by significators of 6, 8, 12? b) if the cuspal sub lord of these houses are significators of 6, 8, 12? (At least in case of house, this looks like most possible definition to me) c) If these cusps are receiving malefic Western asepcts. d) If these houses are aspected by significators of 6, 8, 12 I want to point out that the word 'afflication' in ambiguous in the context of KP and need strict definition. These kind of statements bring the ambiguity back for which traditional astrology is blamed and should be avoided as much as possible. To sum-up, we need to define 'afflication to sign', 'afflication to planet' and 'afflication to house' more clearly. Once defined, life of a KP student will become easy, also it will bring clarity to our discussion. I hope now you understand reason behind my previous email. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: Dear Punit, First of all,an 'affliction' and 'infliction'(are simple English words,) and are almost always considered in an evil context,exceptions do exist,ofcourse. ..eg., afflicted by a contagious disease as distinct from ....and he"inflicted defeat" on his enemy/opponent. ..and so on....an infliction is brought about by an external agency,while an affliction is due mostly due to one's own lack of immunity/mistake/ weakness and so on...this is a rough and ready explanation, but I suppose it serves the limited purpose... To quote further from Medical Astrology for All, p68,2nd Edition...1994 : According to K.P., "...the VIth house shows disease,the VIIIth danger,and the XIIth, hospitalisation. ..The sunlord of the VIth cusp is the final deciding factor about the disease. Tendency to get/contract disease also depends upon the Dasa-lord,Bhukti- lord and Anthara-lord, and the Planets connected to the VI & Lagna will give rise to disease,in their conjoined periods. If the s/l of the VIth is in the XIIth, and becomes a strong significator of the VIth,then the native will surely suffer from an incureable ailment... If the s/l of the VIth is in the VIIth,and is connected to Houses,III,V & IX...mental aberation is caused...during the conjoint periods of the significators, of these houses... The IIrd house represents the mind...and the other houses related to the mind are I,V & IX...and the higher mind is denoted by the IXth and the lower by the IIIrd...(sic) . The rest I have sent in my first mail,assuming that most K.P. Followers have already read this enlightening book... And finally, I urge K.P. enthusiasts to study this book carefully and thoroughly.. .ofcourse, due allowance needs to be made for the poor quality of editing and the English language which seems to be a verbatim translation from Tamil into English....like with most Krishman & Co., books...quite unfortunately. .. With kind regards, Yogesh Lajmi... GOOD LUCK ! Luther Rath <rathluther > @gro ups.comWednesday, July 15, 2009 9:41:40 AM Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases Respected Sirs, I fully agree with Sri. Punitji. Till now I have not found the definition of 'Affliction' in KP though it is frequently used in KP Readers. We need to define, what is affliction. How one planet or a cusp is afflicted, what aspects of planets afflicts others etc. What are evil aspects and what are good aspects? In LP, what I understood till now is that significators of VI, VII and XII are malifics, of course not all ways. It does not solely depent on what planet it is. Hence many things are to be clerified yet for KP followers. Hope some one will do needful. With my respect to one and all. Dr. Rath Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> @gro ups.comTuesday, July 14, 2009 8:21:03 PMRe: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases Dear Lajmi ji, The quote too looks like from a traditional astrology book rather than KP astrology book. 'Afflicted' is also not a popular KP terminology and should be avoided, in my opinion. Can you please elaborate it more in a KP language, so that KP beginners can understand it. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: Dear Members, As per K.P. Principles,Mental Diseases are caused if : 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is afflicted...and... 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted...and.... 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousness is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... ) For more detailed information members are recommended to read the excellent book "MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL" by Mr.K.Subramaniam & Mr.Vaikary Ramamurthy. With the very best wishes, Yogesh Lajmi. GOOD LUCK ! rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >@gro ups.comTuesday, July 14, 2009 6:37:21 PM Physcological imbalance Namaste Sagar Ji, You said moon-ketu, moon-rahu, moon-mercury effect mental disorders but is it only in perticular lagna or rashis combination or more likely every where pls confirm this because I see in this one kundali moon-rahu & moon-mercury opposit each other but until now its all perfect & person is very inteligent & active but check his is he may be in later older age could get mental disorders? I know one thing this person is very very emotional meaning even though he is MAN but he crys in every tv serials or he cannot see any one crying because then he gets emotinal right away so there had be one reason from this combination let me tell his info may-12-57, 04;25am, 12n45, 45e12 gmt-3hrs east [aden-yemen] thanks rashmi Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.comTuesday, July 14, 2009 8:25:58 AMRe: Physcological imbalance HiI too was literally mad for 4 years.On 31st December 1995 night 21-35 PM i became literally mad an di was not in my control.Only on 27th June 1998 i was come out of the same.I became literally mad in Mercury -Moon period.SSBrahmaanda Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.comTuesday, 14 July, 2009 12:18:42 PMRe: Physcological imbalance HiMoon-Mercury, Moon-Rahu and Moon-Saturn affliction will influence on mental imbalance.Note:this imbalance is often seen in the charts of great saint, research scholars too.Swami vivekananda born with Moon-Saturn in Virgo , hence his Philoshophical lore was great which live long.Dr.B.V.Raman with Moon-Saturn in Taurus resulted in great works/books by his pen.In very few cases these three combination make mental worries/mentally disturbed etc.Depends on the other aspects of the chart.In my own case Moon-Saturn together in Libra resulted in "benefic dots and percentage of seats/marks" and "Mirrorology'RegardsSahhasra Saagara Laxmi T <tirulaxmi >@gro ups.comTuesday, 14 July, 2009 8:45:20 AM Physcological imbalance Dear all,In kp, how to see the Physiological imbalance (Mental fluctuations) in the chart? Is it seen through serious afflictions of moon and mercury? with regardstirulaxmi Looking for local information? Find it on Local Looking for local information? Find it on Local Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Dear TW, I guess we are,in the name of 'correct interpretaion'(all of which are very subjective indeed)...are slowly becoming "Lakir ke Fakir"....there seems to be some kind of competition to claim the dubious honour of being the correct interpreter of the Original K.P. book...by our revered Guruji...surely he must be laughing at all of us for our uninformed pettiness... ! We seem to go "literally",by the words used,rather than the true/implied meanings...and endlessly carrying on a futile exercise... Better usage of the English language certainly embellishes a book...but such needless and to my mind,deliberate"nit-picking", serves no purpose except to prove our own mindless orthodoxy...which only is bound to act as an impediment to acquiring knowledge...it was not long ago that a similar nit-picking "astrologer: who began by claiming he was only a beginner was on this site,with similar comments about what exactly KSK had said and subjected Mr.K.Subramaniam,and the sons of KSK...to all kinds insinuations... (a lot of rubbish)...was being passed as "constructive criticism"... ! ! I am beginning to smell some such sinister conspiracy at work again...of late... With best wishes, Yogesh Lajmi. GOOD LUCK ! tw853 <tw853 Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 9:40:22 AM Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases Dear Friends,1. This book MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL by K. Subramanium or another book Astrological Diagnosis of Diseases by H. Hariharan may not help much to make clear the issue of 'inflicted' and to find the clear rules for mental disorder.2. Infliction by traditional as well as Western aspects and houes 6,8,12 appears to be applied there. 3. In fact there is no place for 'inflicted' in KP since "the cusps indicate whether it is promised or not and sigificators point the time of event",(KP Reader V p 211/ New Edition p 224; KP Reader III pp 68, 148 & 194/ New Edition pp 226,313 & 362 ) and "one is to note what each planet can contribute always consider the sublord". (KP Reader III p 194/ New Edition 362) 4. No planet is wholely malefic or benefic which depends on occupation and lordship at planet, star and sub levels.5. This KP basic rule cannot be reconciled with malefic or benefic by Traditional and Western ideas and Western good and bad aspects.6. In addition, E grade significators by conj & aspect are weak and usually used as the last resort since all planets may be E grade significators in most cases as found in SW-print out of KP significators table.7. Moreover, only grade E significators aspected by grade A to D are to be cosidered. http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 72958. Anyway in KP medical aricles in place of 'inflicted' it has been replaced by occupation or conj or aspect (Hindu) of planets signifying 6,8,12, Maraka, Badhaka houses.. 9. The following KP idea for mental disorder by Shri Bhatt may be worthy to try.http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 25760Regards,tw@gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Punit,> I strongly recommend you get the book MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL...> I am sure you will be clear about the use of K.P. in the Medical diagnoses of diseases...> With best wishes,> Yogesh Lajmi.> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Punit Pandey <punitp> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:56:06 PM> Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases> > > > > > Dear Lajmi ji,> > Thanks for the detailed reply. I understand that English word 'affliction' . I also understand meaning of this word in the context of traditional astrology, but I am not sure about meaning of this word in the context of KP. It requires further clarification. As correctly mentioned by Luther ji, we find reference of these words in some of the KP books which makes the rule difficult to understand by a KP astrologer.. > > Word 'affliction' is open for interpretation. Let us take all three rules one by one -> > > 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna andit is afflicted... and...> What does it mean -> a) Aries having significators of 6, 8, 12?> b) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary aspect from the significators of 6, 8, 12?> c) Aries having cuspal sub lords of 6, 8, 12?> d) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary aspect from the cuspal sublords of 6, 8, 12?> > > > 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted... and....> a) If these planets are significators of 6, 8, 12?> b) If these planets receiving Hindu planetary aspect of the significators of 6, 8, 12?> c) If these planets receiving bad western aspects. Remember all western aspects are classified as either good or bad. > a) If these planets are cuspal sub lord of of 6, 8, 12?> > > 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousn ess is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... )> a) if these houses are occupied by significators of 6, 8, 12?> b) if the cuspal sub lord of these houses are significators of 6, 8, 12? (At least in case of house, this looks like most possible definition to me)> c) If these cusps are receiving malefic Western asepcts. > d) If these houses are aspected by significators of 6, 8, 12> > I want to point out that the word 'afflication' in ambiguous in the context of KP and need strict definition. These kind of statements bring the ambiguity back for which traditional astrology is blamed and should be avoided as much as possible. > > To sum-up, we need to define 'afflication to sign', 'afflication to planet' and 'afflication to house' more clearly. Once defined, life of a KP student will become easy, also it will bring clarity to our discussion. > > I hope now you understand reason behind my previous email. > > Thanks & Regards,> > Punit Pandey> > > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:> > Dear Punit,> > First of all,an 'affliction' and 'infliction' (are simple English words,) and are almost always considered in an evil context,exceptions do exist,ofcourse. ..eg., afflicted by a contagious disease as distinct from ....and he"inflicted defeat" on his enemy/opponent. ..and so on....aninfliction is brought about by an external agency,while an affliction is due mostly due to one's own lack of immunity/mistake/ weakness and so on...this is a rough and ready explanation, but I suppose it serves the limited purpose...> > To quote further from Medical Astrology for All, p68,2nd Edition...1994 :> > According to K.P., "...the VIth house shows disease,the VIIIth danger,and the XIIth,> >hospitalisation. ..The sunlord of the VIth cusp is the final deciding factor about the disease.> > Tendency to get/contract disease also depends upon the Dasa-lord,Bhukti- lord and Anthara-lord, and the Planets connected to the VI & Lagna will give rise to disease,in their conjoined periods.> > If the s/l of the VIth is in the XIIth, and becomes a strong significator of the VIth,then the native will surely suffer from an incureable ailment....> > If the s/l of the VIth is in the VIIth,and is connected to Houses,III,V & IX...mental aberation is caused...during the conjoint periods of the significators, of these houses...> > The IIrd house represents the mind...and the other houses related to the mind are I,V & IX...and the higher mind is denoted by the IXth and the lower by the IIIrd...(sic) .> > The rest I have sent in my first mail,assuming that most K.P. Followers have already read this enlightening book...> > And finally, I urge K.P. enthusiasts to study this book carefully and thoroughly.. .ofcourse, due allowance needs to be made for the poor quality of editing and the English language which seems to be a verbatim translation from Tamil into English....like with most Krishman & Co., books...quite unfortunately. ..> > With kind regards,> > Yogesh Lajmi...> > GOOD LUCK !> > > > > > > >> >> >> >> ____________ _________ _________ __> Luther Rath <rathluther> > >> >@gro ups.com> >Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:41:40 AM > >> >Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases> >> >> >> >> >> >Respected Sirs,> >I fully agree with Sri. Punitji. Till now I have not found the definition of 'Affliction' in KP though it is frequently used in KP Readers. We need to define, what is affliction. How one planet or a cusp is afflicted, what aspects of planets afflicts others etc. What are evil aspects and what are good aspects? In LP, what I understood till now is that significators of VI, VII and XII are malifics, of course not all ways. It does not solely depent on what planet it is. Hence many things are to be clerified yet for KP followers.> >Hope some one will do needful.> >With my respect to one and all.> >Dr. Rath> >> >> >> >> ____________ _________ _________ __> Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> >> >@gro ups.com> >Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:21:03 PM> >Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases> >> >> >> >Dear Lajmi ji,> >> >The quote too looks like from a traditional astrology book rather than KP astrology book. 'Afflicted' is also not a popular KP terminology and should be avoided, in my opinion.. Can you please elaborate it more in a KP language, so that KP beginners can understand it. > >> >Thanks & Regards,> >> >Punit Pandey> >> >> >> >On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:> >> >> >>> >>> >>Dear Members,> >> As per K.P. Principles,Mental Diseases are caused if :> >> 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna andit is afflicted... and...> >> 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted... and....> >> 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousn ess is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... )> >> For more detailed information members are recommended to read the excellent book> >>"MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL" by Mr.K.Subramaniam & Mr.Vaikary Ramamurthy.> >> > >> With the very best wishes,> >> Yogesh Lajmi.> >> GOOD LUCK !> >> > >> > >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________ _________ _________ __> rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >> >>@gro ups.com> >>Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:37:21 PM> >> Physcological imbalance> >>> >>> >>Namaste Sagar Ji,> >>> >>You said moon-ketu, moon-rahu, moon-mercury effect mental disorders but is it only in perticular lagna or rashis combination or more likely every where pls confirm this because I see in this one kundali moon-rahu & moon-mercury opposit each other but until now its all perfect & person is very inteligent & active but check his is he may be in later older age could get mental disorders?> >>> >>I know one thing this person is very very emotional meaning even though he is MAN but he crys in every tv serials or he cannot see any one crying because then he gets emotinal right away so> >>there had be one reason from this combination let me tell his info> >>> >>may-12-57, 04;25am, 12n45, 45e12 gmt-3hrs east [aden-yemen]> >>> >>thanks> >>rashmi> >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________ _________ _________ __> Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> >>@gro ups.com> >>Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:25:58 AM> >>Re: Physcological imbalance> >>> >>> >>Hi> >>I too was literally mad for 4 years.> >>On 31st December 1995 night 21-35 PM i became literally mad an di was not in my control.> >>Only on 27th June 1998 i was come out of the same.> >>I became literally mad in Mercury -Moon period.> >>SSBrahmaanda > >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________ _________ _________ __> Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> >>@gro ups.com> >>Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 12:18:42 PM> >>Re: Physcological imbalance> >>> >>> >>Hi> >>Moon-Mercury, Moon-Rahu and Moon-Saturn affliction will influence on mental imbalance.> >>Note:> >>this imbalance is often seen in the charts of great saint, research scholars too.> >>Swami vivekananda born with Moon-Saturn in Virgo , hence his Philoshophical lore was great which live long.> >>Dr.B.V.Raman with Moon-Saturn in Taurus resulted in great works/books by his pen.> >>In very few cases these three combination make mental worries/mentally disturbed etc.> >>Depends on the other aspects of the chart.> >>In my own case Moon-Saturn together in Libra resulted in "benefic dots and percentage of seats/marks" and "Mirrorology'> >>Regards> >>Sahhasra Saagara> >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________ _________ _________ __> Laxmi T <tirulaxmi >> >>@gro ups.com> >>Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 8:45:20 AM> >> Physcological imbalance> >>> >>> >>Dear all,> >>> >>In kp, how to see the Physiological imbalance (Mental fluctuations) in the chart? Is it seen through serious afflictions of moon and mercury? > >>> >>with regards> >>tirulaxmi> >>> >>> >>__________ _________ _________ ____> Looking for local information? Find it on Local > >>__________ _________ _________ ____> Looking for local information? Find it on Local > >>> >>> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Dear TWji 4 8 12th are houses of occultism. 6th is for 'shakti' Ke is mokha/ gyan karaka.HP Blavasky's birth details available on which site? Regards Sujata--- On Thu, 16/7/09, tw853 <tw853 wrote: tw853 <tw853 Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases Date: Thursday, 16 July, 2009, 9:40 AM Dear Friends,1. This book MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL by K. Subramanium or another book Astrological Diagnosis of Diseases by H. Hariharan may not help much to make clear the issue of 'inflicted' and to find the clear rules for mental disorder.2. Infliction by traditional as well as Western aspects and houes 6,8,12 appears to be applied there. 3. In fact there is no place for 'inflicted' in KP since "the cusps indicate whether it is promised or not and sigificators point the time of event",(KP Reader V p 211/ New Edition p 224; KP Reader III pp 68, 148 & 194/ New Edition pp 226,313 & 362 ) and "one is to note what each planet can contribute always consider the sublord". (KP Reader III p 194/ New Edition 362) 4. No planet is wholely malefic or benefic which depends on occupation and lordship at planet, star and sub levels.5. This KP basic rule cannot be reconciled with malefic or benefic by Traditional and Western ideas and Western good and bad aspects.6. In addition, E grade significators by conj & aspect are weak and usually used as the last resort since all planets may be E grade significators in most cases as found in SW-print out of KP significators table.7. Moreover, only grade E significators aspected by grade A to D are to be cosidered. http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 72958. Anyway in KP medical aricles in place of 'inflicted' it has been replaced by occupation or conj or aspect (Hindu) of planets signifying 6,8,12, Maraka, Badhaka houses.. 9. The following KP idea for mental disorder by Shri Bhatt may be worthy to try.http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 25760Regards,tw@gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Punit,> I strongly recommend you get the book MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL...> I am sure you will be clear about the use of K.P. in the Medical diagnoses of diseases...> With best wishes,> Yogesh Lajmi.> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Punit Pandey <punitp> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:56:06 PM> Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases> > > > > > Dear Lajmi ji,> > Thanks for the detailed reply. I understand that English word 'affliction' . I also understand meaning of this word in the context of traditional astrology, but I am not sure about meaning of this word in the context of KP. It requires further clarification. As correctly mentioned by Luther ji, we find reference of these words in some of the KP books which makes the rule difficult to understand by a KP astrologer. > > Word 'affliction' is open for interpretation. Let us take all three rules one by one -> > > 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna andit is afflicted... and...> What does it mean -> a) Aries having significators of 6, 8, 12?> b) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary aspect from the significators of 6, 8, 12?> c) Aries having cuspal sub lords of 6, 8, 12?> d) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary aspect from the cuspal sublords of 6, 8, 12?> > > > 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted... and....> a) If these planets are significators of 6, 8, 12?> b) If these planets receiving Hindu planetary aspect of the significators of 6, 8, 12?> c) If these planets receiving bad western aspects. Remember all western aspects are classified as either good or bad. > a) If these planets are cuspal sub lord of of 6, 8, 12?> > > 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousn ess is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... )> a) if these houses are occupied by significators of 6, 8, 12?> b) if the cuspal sub lord of these houses are significators of 6, 8, 12? (At least in case of house, this looks like most possible definition to me)> c) If these cusps are receiving malefic Western asepcts. > d) If these houses are aspected by significators of 6, 8, 12> > I want to point out that the word 'afflication' in ambiguous in the context of KP and need strict definition. These kind of statements bring the ambiguity back for which traditional astrology is blamed and should be avoided as much as possible. > > To sum-up, we need to define 'afflication to sign', 'afflication to planet' and 'afflication to house' more clearly. Once defined, life of a KP student will become easy, also it will bring clarity to our discussion. > > I hope now you understand reason behind my previous email. > > Thanks & Regards,> > Punit Pandey> > > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:> > Dear Punit,> > First of all,an 'affliction' and 'infliction' (are simple English words,) and are almost always considered in an evil context,exceptions do exist,ofcourse. ..eg., afflicted by a contagious disease as distinct from ....and he"inflicted defeat" on his enemy/opponent. ..and so on....aninfliction is brought about by an external agency,while an affliction is due mostly due to one's own lack of immunity/mistake/ weakness and so on...this is a rough and ready explanation, but I suppose it serves the limited purpose...> > To quote further from Medical Astrology for All, p68,2nd Edition....1994 :> > According to K.P., "...the VIth house shows disease,the VIIIth danger,and the XIIth,> >hospitalisation. ..The sunlord of the VIth cusp is the final deciding factor about the disease.> > Tendency to get/contract disease also depends upon the Dasa-lord,Bhukti- lord and Anthara-lord, and the Planets connected to the VI & Lagna will give rise to disease,in their conjoined periods.> > If the s/l of the VIth is in the XIIth, and becomes a strong significator of the VIth,then the native will surely suffer from an incureable ailment...> > If the s/l of the VIth is in the VIIth,and is connected to Houses,III,V & IX...mental aberation is caused...during the conjoint periods of the significators, of these houses...> > The IIrd house represents the mind...and the other houses related to the mind are I,V & IX...and the higher mind is denoted by the IXth and the lower by the IIIrd...(sic) .> > The rest I have sent in my first mail,assuming that most K.P. Followers have already read this enlightening book...> > And finally, I urge K.P. enthusiasts to study this book carefully and thoroughly.. .ofcourse, due allowance needs to be made for the poor quality of editing and the English language which seems to be a verbatim translation from Tamil into English....like with most Krishman & Co., books...quite unfortunately. ..> > With kind regards,> > Yogesh Lajmi...> > GOOD LUCK !> > > > > > > >> >> >> >> ____________ _________ _________ __> Luther Rath <rathluther> > >> >@gro ups.com> >Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:41:40 AM > >> >Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases> >> >> >> >> >> >Respected Sirs,> >I fully agree with Sri. Punitji. Till now I have not found the definition of 'Affliction' in KP though it is frequently used in KP Readers. We need to define, what is affliction. How one planet or a cusp is afflicted, what aspects of planets afflicts others etc. What are evil aspects and what are good aspects? In LP, what I understood till now is that significators of VI, VII and XII are malifics, of course not all ways. It does not solely depent on what planet it is. Hence many things are to be clerified yet for KP followers.> >Hope some one will do needful.> >With my respect to one and all.> >Dr. Rath> >> >> >> >> ____________ _________ _________ __> Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> >> >@gro ups.com> >Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:21:03 PM> >Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases> >> >> >> >Dear Lajmi ji,> >> >The quote too looks like from a traditional astrology book rather than KP astrology book. 'Afflicted' is also not a popular KP terminology and should be avoided, in my opinion.. Can you please elaborate it more in a KP language, so that KP beginners can understand it. > >> >Thanks & Regards,> >> >Punit Pandey> >> >> >> >On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:> >> >> >>> >>> >>Dear Members,> >> As per K.P. Principles,Mental Diseases are caused if :> >> 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna andit is afflicted... and...> >> 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted... and....> >> 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousn ess is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... )> >> For more detailed information members are recommended to read the excellent book> >>"MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL" by Mr.K.Subramaniam & Mr.Vaikary Ramamurthy.> >> > >> With the very best wishes,> >> Yogesh Lajmi.> >> GOOD LUCK !> >> > >> > >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________ _________ _________ __> rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >> >>@gro ups.com> >>Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:37:21 PM> >> Physcological imbalance> >>> >>> >>Namaste Sagar Ji,> >>> >>You said moon-ketu, moon-rahu, moon-mercury effect mental disorders but is it only in perticular lagna or rashis combination or more likely every where pls confirm this because I see in this one kundali moon-rahu & moon-mercury opposit each other but until now its all perfect & person is very inteligent & active but check his is he may be in later older age could get mental disorders?> >>> >>I know one thing this person is very very emotional meaning even though he is MAN but he crys in every tv serials or he cannot see any one crying because then he gets emotinal right away so> >>there had be one reason from this combination let me tell his info> >>> >>may-12-57, 04;25am, 12n45, 45e12 gmt-3hrs east [aden-yemen]> >>> >>thanks> >>rashmi> >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________ _________ _________ __> Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> >>@gro ups.com> >>Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:25:58 AM> >>Re: Physcological imbalance> >>> >>> >>Hi> >>I too was literally mad for 4 years.> >>On 31st December 1995 night 21-35 PM i became literally mad an di was not in my control.> >>Only on 27th June 1998 i was come out of the same.> >>I became literally mad in Mercury -Moon period.> >>SSBrahmaanda > >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________ _________ _________ __> Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> >>@gro ups.com> >>Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 12:18:42 PM> >>Re: Physcological imbalance> >>> >>> >>Hi> >>Moon-Mercury, Moon-Rahu and Moon-Saturn affliction will influence on mental imbalance.> >>Note:> >>this imbalance is often seen in the charts of great saint, research scholars too.> >>Swami vivekananda born with Moon-Saturn in Virgo , hence his Philoshophical lore was great which live long.> >>Dr.B.V.Raman with Moon-Saturn in Taurus resulted in great works/books by his pen.> >>In very few cases these three combination make mental worries/mentally disturbed etc.> >>Depends on the other aspects of the chart.> >>In my own case Moon-Saturn together in Libra resulted in "benefic dots and percentage of seats/marks" and "Mirrorology'> >>Regards> >>Sahhasra Saagara> >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________ _________ _________ __> Laxmi T <tirulaxmi >> >>@gro ups.com> >>Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 8:45:20 AM> >> Physcological imbalance> >>> >>> >>Dear all,> >>> >>In kp, how to see the Physiological imbalance (Mental fluctuations) in the chart? Is it seen through serious afflictions of moon and mercury? > >>> >>with regards> >>tirulaxmi> >>> >>> >>__________ _________ _________ ____> Looking for local information? Find it on Local > >>__________ _________ _________ ____> Looking for local information? Find it on Local > >>> >>> >> >> >> Looking for local information? Find it on Local Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Sir, Thanks for the reply. If you go through the KP readers where Krishnamurtiji had compared indian vedic astrology, western astrology and Stellar Astrology, there he had mentioned that we should adopt western aspects as it is more developed than ourselves. Notonly this but he had solved so many examples taking into consideration western aspects system including day a year system. If you go through KP 3rd Reader ie. Predictive Stellar Astrology, there is one chapter named Rain, Electricity and Power supply. In this chapter, Krishnamurtiji has used day a year system and accordingly predicted the horary query and it found 100% correct in the course of time. Please let me know is ther any other use of the same. Please give your cell/land line for information. What the efforts we are taking to develop kp and remove the loop holes in the predictions, it will certainly help new comers in this system. Bravo KP System Long live With kind regards With the blessing of Lord Uchist Mahaganapathi Vijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision Kolhapur On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:26:46 +0530 wrote >Dear Patilji, >Nice to hear from you. Thank you so much. What I like to point out is, we, in KP, do not follow the aspects followed in Western Astrology. During discussions during last few days some have opined that the special aspects of Saturn ( i.e. the 3rd and 10th ) are evil. I have not found mentioning about the special aspects of Mars and Jupiter yet. Some one says that affliction occurs because of own lack of immunity/weakness etc. If we believe this than a planet/bhava is afflicted according to its positioning in particular bhava, occupying certain signs or constellations or occupying particular subs. It's not because it is aspected by any particular planet or conjoined with such planet. Will you kindly extend your opinion on this. >Due regards. >Dr. Rath > > > > >________________________________ >VIJAYANAND PATIL >rathluther >Cc: guide_vijayanand >Wednesday, July 15, 2009 12:43:03 PM >Re: Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases > >In this group your posting towards afflication of planets read. Afflication according to Krishnamurthi padhati is nothing but the detrimental position to the prime and subsidiary bhavas as well as aspects from evil planets also adverse aspects in reference to the western system i.e. in multiple of 7.5 degrees. which have been eloborated by Shri KSK in readers. Also some evil combinations with conjunction will also affect the strength of the planet. > >I have translated KP readers in Marathi Language for the best understanding for students. > >With regards >Vijayanand R.Patil >President, Astrovision, The Scientific Socy. for research and Devt.in Astrology, Kolhapur, Maharashtra >Meet me at : physics >email me to : guide_vijayanand >Contact : +91 9422582853 and 9673746303 > > > > > > >On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:11:53 +0530 wrote >>Respected Sirs, >>I fully agree with Sri. Punitji. Till now I have not found the definition of 'Affliction' in KP though it is frequently used in KP Readers. We need to define, what is affliction. How one planet or a cusp is afflicted, what aspects of planets afflicts others etc. What are evil aspects and what are good aspects? In LP, what I understood till now is that significators of VI, VII and XII are malifics, of course not all ways. It does not solely depent on what planet it is. Hence many things are to be clerified yet for KP followers. >>Hope some one will do needful. >>With my respect to one and all. >>Dr. Rath >> >> >> >> >>________________________________ >>Punit Pandey >> >>Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:21:03 PM >>Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases >> >> >> >> >> >>Dear Lajmi ji, >> >>The quote too looks like from a traditional astrology book rather than KP astrology book. 'Afflicted' is also not a popular KP terminology and should be avoided, in my opinion. Can you please elaborate it more in a KP language, so that KP beginners can understand it. >> >>Thanks Regards, >> >>Punit Pandey >> >> >> >>On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi wrote: >> >> >>> >>> >>>Dear Members, >>> As per K.P. Principles,Mental Diseases are caused if : >>> 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna andit is afflicted...and... >>> 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon Merc are afflicted...and... >>> 3) The Vth VIth are afflicted(conciousness is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... ) >>> For more detailed information members are recommended to read the excellent book >>>"MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL" by Mr.K.Subramaniam Mr.Vaikary Ramamurthy. >>> >>> With the very best wishes, >>> Yogesh Lajmi. >>> GOOD LUCK ! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>________________________________ >>rashmi patel >>>@gro ups.com >>>Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:37:21 PM >>> Physcological imbalance >>> >>> >>>Namaste Sagar Ji, >>> >>>You said moon-ketu, moon-rahu, moon-mercury effect mental disorders but is it only in perticular lagna or rashis combination or more likely every where pls confirm this because I see in this one kundali moon-rahu moon-mercury opposit each other but until now its all perfect person is very inteligent active but check his is he may be in later older age could get mental disorders? >>> >>>I know one thing this person is very very emotional meaning even though he is MAN but he crys in every tv serials or he cannot see any one crying because then he gets emotinal right away so >>>there had be one reason from this combination let me tell his info >>> >>>may-12-57, 04;25am, 12n45, 45e12 gmt-3hrs east [aden-yemen] >>> >>>thanks >>>rashmi >>> >>> >>> >>> >>________________________________ >>Sagar S >>>@gro ups.com >>>Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:25:58 AM >>>Re: Physcological imbalance >>> >>> >>>Hi >>>I too was literally mad for 4 years. >>>On 31st December 1995 night 21-35 PM i became literally mad an di was not in my control. >>>Only on 27th June 1998 i was come out of the same. >>>I became literally mad in Mercury -Moon period. >>>SSBrahmaanda >>> >>> >>> >>> >>________________________________ >>Sagar S >>>@gro ups.com >>>Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 12:18:42 PM >>>Re: Physcological imbalance >>> >>> >>>Hi >>>Moon-Mercury, Moon-Rahu and Moon-Saturn affliction will influence on mental imbalance. >>>Note: >>>this imbalance is often seen in the charts of great saint, research scholars too. >>>Swami vivekananda born with Moon-Saturn in Virgo , hence his Philoshophical lore was great which live long. >>>Dr.B.V.Raman with Moon-Saturn in Taurus resulted in great works/books by his pen. >>>In very few cases these three combination make mental worries/mentally disturbed etc. >>>Depends on the other aspects of the chart. >>>In my own case Moon-Saturn together in Libra resulted in "benefic dots and percentage of seats/marks" and "Mirrorology' >>>Regards >>>Sahhasra Saagara >>> >>> >>> >>> >>________________________________ >>Laxmi T >>>@gro ups.com >>>Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 8:45:20 AM >>> Physcological imbalance >>> >>> >>>Dear all, >>> >>>In kp, how to see the Physiological imbalance (Mental fluctuations) in the chart? Is it seen through serious afflictions of moon and mercury? >>> >>>with regards >>>tirulaxmi >>> >>> >>>________________________________ >>Looking for local information? Find it on Local >>>________________________________ >>Looking for local information? Find it on Local >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Dear Punitji There are so many things to be redefined. What you have given in your posting below is correct. Afflication is nothing but the connection of planets/significators detrimental to the concerned bhava or 6-8-12 relationship to the concerned bhava or otherwise aspects from lord or occupants of 6-8-12. Afflicaion plays predominant role in happening of the event. We see there are certain cases where DBAs including transit is very very favourable but if the planet/significators receive evil aspects from other planet/significators, then event is happened with a slight delay or it is not happening. So this thing is not to be neglected and taken into consideration with a very great care. Krishnamurtiji has given so many examples where he had extensive use of traditional vedic astrology rules. It is our mind what rule is to use and what is not to use. IF we come in confusion, then only we try to use so many rules at a time and we march on a wrong path leads to wrong prediction. With regards Vijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision, The Scientific Socy, for Research and Devt. In Astrology, Kolhapur Maharashtra guide_vijayanand/.co.in Visit me at : physics On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:10:46 +0530 wrote > Dear Lajmi ji, > >Thanks for the detailed reply. I understand that English word 'affliction'. >I also understand meaning of this word in the context of traditional >astrology, but I am not sure about meaning of this word in the context of >KP. It requires further clarification. As correctly mentioned by Luther ji, >we find reference of these words in some of the KP books which makes the >rule difficult to understand by a KP astrologer. > >Word 'affliction' is open for interpretation. Let us take all three rules >one by one - > >*1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is afflicted >...and...* >*What does it mean -* >a) Aries having significators of 6, 8, 12? >b) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary >aspect from the significators of 6, 8, 12? > c) Aries having cuspal sub lords of 6, 8, 12? >d) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary aspect >from the cuspal sublords of 6, 8, 12? > > >*2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon Merc are afflicted...and....* > a) If these planets are significators of 6, 8, 12? >b) If these planets receiving Hindu planetary aspect of the significators of >6, 8, 12? > c) If these planets receiving bad western aspects. Remember all western >aspects are classified as either good or bad. > a) If these planets are cuspal sub lord of of 6, 8, 12? > >*3) The Vth VIth are afflicted(conciousness is signified by the Vth >house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and >mental disorders... )* >a) if these houses are occupied by significators of 6, 8, 12? >b) if the cuspal sub lord of these houses are significators of 6, 8, 12? (At >least in case of house, this looks like most possible definition to me) >c) If these cusps are receiving malefic Western asepcts. >d) If these houses are aspected by significators of 6, 8, 12 > >I want to point out that the word 'afflication' in ambiguous in the context >of KP and need strict definition. These kind of statements bring the >ambiguity back for which traditional astrology is blamed and should be >avoided as much as possible. > >*To sum-up, we need to define 'afflication to sign', 'afflication to planet' >and 'afflication to house' more clearly.* Once defined, life of a KP student >will become easy, also it will bring clarity to our discussion. > >I hope now you understand reason behind my previous email. > >Thanks Regards, > >Punit Pandey > > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Yogesh Lajmi wrote: > >> Dear Punit, >> First of all,an 'affliction' and 'infliction'(are simple >> English words,) and are almost always considered in an evil >> context,exceptions do exist,ofcourse...eg., *afflicted by a contagious* * >> disease* as distinct from *....and he"inflicted defeat"* on his >> enemy/opponent...and so on....an* infliction *is brought about by an >> external agency,while an *affliction* is due mostly due to one's own lack >> of immunity/mistake/weakness and so on...this is a rough and ready >> explanation,but I suppose it serves the limited purpose... >> To quote further from *Medical Astrology for All, p68,2nd >> Edition...1994 :* >> According to K.P., "...the VIth house shows disease,the >> VIIIth danger,and the XIIth, >> hospitalisation...*The sunlord of the VIth cusp is the final deciding >> factor about the disease.* >> Tendency to get/contract disease also depends upon the >> Dasa-lord,Bhukti-lord and Anthara-lord,and the Planets connected to the VI >> Lagna will give rise to disease,in their conjoined periods. >> If the s/l of the VIth is in the XIIth, and becomes a >> strong significator of the VIth,then the native will *surely suffer from >> an incureable ailment...* >> * *If the s/l of the VIth is in the VIIth,and is connected >> to Houses,III,V IX...*mental aberation is caused...during the conjoint >> periods of the significators,of these houses...* >> * *The IIrd house represents the mind...and the other >> houses related to the mind are I,V IX...and the higher mind is denoted by >> the IXth and the lower by the IIIrd...(sic). >> The rest I have sent in my first mail,assuming that most >> K.P. Followers have already read this enlightening book... >> And finally, I urge K.P. enthusiasts to study this book >> carefully and thoroughly...ofcourse, due allowance needs to be made for the >> poor quality of editing and the English language which seems to be a >> verbatim translation from Tamil into English....like with most Krishman >> Co., books...quite unfortunately... >> With kind regards, >> Yogesh Lajmi... >> GOOD LUCK ! >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> ** Luther Rath >> *To:* >> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:41:40 AM >> *Subject:* Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental >> Imbalance/diseases >> >> >> >> Respected Sirs, >> >> I fully agree with Sri. Punitji. Till now I have not found the definition >> of 'Affliction' in KP though it is frequently used in KP Readers. We need to >> define, what is affliction. How one planet or a cusp is afflicted, what >> aspects of planets afflicts others etc. What are evil aspects and what are >> good aspects? In LP, what I understood till now is that significators of VI, >> VII and XII are malifics, of course not all ways. It does not solely depent >> on what planet it is. Hence many things are to be clerified yet for KP >> followers. >> >> Hope some one will do needful. >> >> With my respect to one and all. >> >> Dr. Rath >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> ** Punit Pandey >> *To:* @gro ups.com >> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:21:03 PM >> *Subject:* Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental >> Imbalance/diseases >> >> Dear Lajmi ji, >> >> The quote too looks like from a traditional astrology book rather than KP >> astrology book. 'Afflicted' is also not a popular KP terminology and should >> be avoided, in my opinion. Can you please elaborate it more in a KP >> language, so that KP beginners can understand it. >> >> Thanks Regards, >> >> Punit Pandey >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi >> > wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> **Dear Members, >>> As per K.P. Principles,Mental Diseases are caused >>> if : >>> 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna >>> and* it is afflicted*...and... >>> 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon Merc *are >>> afflicted*...and.... >>> 3) The Vth VIth *are afflicted*(conciousness >>> is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator >>> of conciousness and mental disorders... ) >>> *For more detailed information members are >>> recommended to read the excellent book* >>> *"MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL" by Mr.K.Subramaniam Mr.Vaikary Ramamurthy. >>> * >>> * * >>> * *With the very best wishes*,* >>> * *Yogesh Lajmi. >>> GOOD LUCK ! >>> * * >>> * * >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> ** rashmi patel > >>> *To:* @gro ups.com >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:37:21 PM >>> *Subject:* Physcological imbalance >>> >>> Namaste Sagar Ji, >>> >>> You said moon-ketu, moon-rahu, moon-mercury effect mental disorders but is >>> it only in perticular lagna or rashis combination or more likely every where >>> pls confirm this because I see in this one kundali moon-rahu moon-mercury >>> opposit each other but until now its all perfect person is very inteligent >>> active but check his is he may be in later older age could get mental >>> disorders? >>> >>> I know one thing this person is very very emotional meaning even though he >>> is MAN but he crys in every tv serials or he cannot see any one crying >>> because then he gets emotinal right away so >>> there had be one reason from this combination let me tell his info >>> >>> may-12-57, 04;25am, 12n45, 45e12 gmt-3hrs east [aden-yemen] >>> >>> thanks >>> rashmi >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> ** Sagar S >>> *To:* @gro ups.com >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:25:58 AM >>> *Subject:* Re: Physcological imbalance >>> >>> Hi >>> I too was literally mad for 4 years. >>> On 31st December 1995 night 21-35 PM i became literally mad an di was not >>> in my control. >>> Only on 27th June 1998 i was come out of the same. >>> I became literally mad in Mercury -Moon period. >>> SSBrahmaanda >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> ** Sagar S >>> *To:* @gro ups.com >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 12:18:42 PM >>> *Subject:* Re: Physcological imbalance >>> >>> Hi >>> Moon-Mercury, Moon-Rahu and Moon-Saturn affliction will influence on >>> mental imbalance. >>> Note: >>> this imbalance is often seen in the charts of great saint, research >>> scholars too. >>> Swami vivekananda born with Moon-Saturn in Virgo , hence his >>> Philoshophical lore was great which live long. >>> Dr.B.V.Raman with Moon-Saturn in Taurus resulted in great works/books by >>> his pen. >>> In very few cases these three combination make mental worries/mentally >>> disturbed etc. >>> Depends on the other aspects of the chart. >>> In my own case Moon-Saturn together in Libra resulted in "benefic dots and >>> percentage of seats/marks" and "Mirrorology' >>> Regards >>> Sahhasra Saagara >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> ** Laxmi T >>> *To:* @gro ups.com >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 8:45:20 AM >>> *Subject:* Physcological imbalance >>> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> In kp, how to see the Physiological imbalance (Mental fluctuations) in >>> the chart? Is it seen through serious afflictions of moon and mercury? >>> >>> with regards >>> tirulaxmi >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> Looking for local information? Find it on Local >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> Looking for local information? Find it on Local >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Dear Mr.Patil, Thanks for your clarificatory mail to Punit Pandey.... Your mail serves to confirm my earlier explanation... With kind regards, Yours sincerely, Yogesh Lajmi. VIJAYANAND PATIL <guide_vijayanandpunitpCc: Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:03:38 PMRe: Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases Dear PunitjiThere are so many things to be redefined. What you have given in your posting below is correct. Afflication is nothing but the connection of planets/significato rs detrimental to the concerned bhava or 6-8-12 relationship to the concerned bhava or otherwise aspects from lord or occupants of 6-8-12.Afflicaion plays predominant role in happening of the event. We see there are certain cases where DBAs including transit is very very favourable but if the planet/significator s receive evil aspects from other planet/significator s, then event is happened with a slight delay or it is not happening. So this thing is not to be neglected and taken into consideration with a very great care. Krishnamurtiji has given so many examples where he had extensive use of traditional vedic astrology rules. It is our mind what rule is to use and what is not to use. IF we come in confusion, then only we try to use so many rules at a time and we march on a wrong path leads to wrong prediction.With regardsVijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision, The Scientific Socy, for Research and Devt. In Astrology, Kolhapur Maharashtraguide_ vijayanand@ rediffmail. com/. co.inVisit me at : physics@ . co.inOn Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:10:46 +0530 wrote> Dear Lajmi ji,>>Thanks for the detailed reply. I understand that English word 'affliction' .>I also understand meaning of this word in the context of traditional>astrology, but I am not sure about meaning of this word in the context of>KP. It requires further clarification. As correctly mentioned by Luther ji,>we find reference of these words in some of the KP books which makes the>rule difficult to understand by a KP astrologer.>>Word 'affliction' is open for interpretation. Let us take all three rules>one by one ->>*1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is afflicted>...and...*>*What does it mean -*>a) Aries having significators of 6, 8, 12?>b) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary>aspect from the significators of 6, 8, 12?> c) Aries having cuspal sub lords of 6, 8, 12?>d) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary aspect>from the cuspal sublords of 6, 8, 12?>>>*2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon Merc are afflicted... and....*> a) If these planets are significators of 6, 8, 12?>b) If these planets receiving Hindu planetary aspect of the significators of>6, 8, 12?> c) If these planets receiving bad western aspects. Remember all western>aspects are classified as either good or bad.> a) If these planets are cuspal sub lord of of 6, 8, 12?>>*3) The Vth VIth are afflicted(conciousn ess is signified by the Vth>house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and>mental disorders... )*>a) if these houses are occupied by significators of 6, 8, 12?>b) if the cuspal sub lord of these houses are significators of 6, 8, 12? (At>least in case of house, this looks like most possible definition to me)>c) If these cusps are receiving malefic Western asepcts.>d) If these houses are aspected by significators of 6, 8, 12>>I want to point out that the word 'afflication' in ambiguous in the context>of KP and need strict definition. These kind of statements bring the>ambiguity back for which traditional astrology is blamed and should be>avoided as much as possible.>>*To sum-up, we need to define 'afflication to sign', 'afflication to planet'>and 'afflication to house' more clearly.* Once defined, life of a KP student>will become easy, also it will bring clarity to our discussion.>>I hope now you understand reason behind my previous email.>>Thanks Regards,>>Punit Pandey>>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Yogesh Lajmi wrote:>>> Dear Punit,>> First of all,an 'affliction' and 'infliction' (are simple>> English words,) and are almost always considered in an evil>> context,exceptions do exist,ofcourse. ..eg., *afflicted by a contagious* *>> disease* as distinct from *....and he"inflicted defeat"* on his>> enemy/opponent. ..and so on....an* infliction *is brought about by an>> external agency,while an *affliction* is due mostly due to one's own lack>> of immunity/mistake/ weakness and so on...this is a rough and ready>> explanation, but I suppose it serves the limited purpose...>> To quote further from *Medical Astrology for All, p68,2nd>> Edition...1994 :*>> According to K.P., "...the VIth house shows disease,the>> VIIIth danger,and the XIIth,>> hospitalisation. ..*The sunlord of the VIth cusp is the final deciding>> factor about the disease.*>> Tendency to get/contract disease also depends upon the>> Dasa-lord,Bhukti- lord and Anthara-lord, and the Planets connected to the VI >> Lagna will give rise to disease,in their conjoined periods.>> If the s/l of the VIth is in the XIIth, and becomes a>> strong significator of the VIth,then the native will *surely suffer from>> an incureable ailment...*>> * *If the s/l of the VIth is in the VIIth,and is connected>> to Houses,III,V IX...*mental aberation is caused...during the conjoint>> periods of the significators, of these houses...*>> * *The IIrd house represents the mind...and the other>> houses related to the mind are I,V IX...and the higher mind is denoted by>> the IXth and the lower by the IIIrd...(sic) .>> The rest I have sent in my first mail,assuming that most>> K.P. Followers have already read this enlightening book...>> And finally, I urge K.P. enthusiasts to study this book>> carefully and thoroughly.. .ofcourse, due allowance needs to be made for the>> poor quality of editing and the English language which seems to be a>> verbatim translation from Tamil into English....like with most Krishman >> Co., books...quite unfortunately. ..>> With kind regards,>> Yogesh Lajmi...>> GOOD LUCK !>>>>>>>>>> ------------ --------- --------->> ** Luther Rath >> *To:* @gro ups.com>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:41:40 AM>> *Subject:* Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental>> Imbalance/diseases>>>>>>>> Respected Sirs,>>>> I fully agree with Sri. Punitji. Till now I have not found the definition>> of 'Affliction' in KP though it is frequently used in KP Readers. We need to>> define, what is affliction. How one planet or a cusp is afflicted, what>> aspects of planets afflicts others etc. What are evil aspects and what are>> good aspects? In LP, what I understood till now is that significators of VI,>> VII and XII are malifics, of course not all ways. It does not solely depent>> on what planet it is. Hence many things are to be clerified yet for KP>> followers.>>>> Hope some one will do needful.>>>> With my respect to one and all.>>>> Dr. Rath>>>>>> ------------ --------- --------->> ** Punit Pandey >> *To:* @gro ups.com>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:21:03 PM>> *Subject:* Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental>> Imbalance/diseases>>>> Dear Lajmi ji,>>>> The quote too looks like from a traditional astrology book rather than KP>> astrology book. 'Afflicted' is also not a popular KP terminology and should>> be avoided, in my opinion. Can you please elaborate it more in a KP>> language, so that KP beginners can understand it.>>>> Thanks Regards,>>>> Punit Pandey>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi >> > wrote:>>>>>>>>>>> **Dear Members,>>> As per K.P. Principles,Mental Diseases are caused>>> if :>>> 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna>>> and* it is afflicted*.. .and...>>> 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon Merc *are>>> afflicted*.. .and....>>> 3) The Vth VIth *are afflicted*(concious ness>>> is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator>>> of conciousness and mental disorders... )>>> *For more detailed information members are>>> recommended to read the excellent book*>>> *"MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL" by Mr.K.Subramaniam Mr.Vaikary Ramamurthy.>>> *>>> * *>>> * *With the very best wishes*,*>>> * *Yogesh Lajmi.>>> GOOD LUCK !>>> * *>>> * *>>>>>> ------------ --------- --------->>> ** rashmi patel >>>> *To:* @gro ups.com >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:37:21 PM>>> *Subject:* Physcological imbalance>>>>>> Namaste Sagar Ji,>>>>>> You said moon-ketu, moon-rahu, moon-mercury effect mental disorders but is>>> it only in perticular lagna or rashis combination or more likely every where>>> pls confirm this because I see in this one kundali moon-rahu moon-mercury>>> opposit each other but until now its all perfect person is very inteligent>>> active but check his is he may be in later older age could get mental>>> disorders?>>>>>> I know one thing this person is very very emotional meaning even though he>>> is MAN but he crys in every tv serials or he cannot see any one crying>>> because then he gets emotinal right away so>>> there had be one reason from this combination let me tell his info>>>>>> may-12-57, 04;25am, 12n45, 45e12 gmt-3hrs east [aden-yemen]>>>>>> thanks>>> rashmi>>>>>> ------------ --------- --------->>> ** Sagar S >>> *To:* @gro ups.com >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:25:58 AM>>> *Subject:* Re: Physcological imbalance>>>>>> Hi>>> I too was literally mad for 4 years.>>> On 31st December 1995 night 21-35 PM i became literally mad an di was not>>> in my control.>>> Only on 27th June 1998 i was come out of the same.>>> I became literally mad in Mercury -Moon period.>>> SSBrahmaanda>>>>>> ------------ --------- --------->>> ** Sagar S >>> *To:* @gro ups.com>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 12:18:42 PM>>> *Subject:* Re: Physcological imbalance>>>>>> Hi>>> Moon-Mercury, Moon-Rahu and Moon-Saturn affliction will influence on>>> mental imbalance.>>> Note:>>> this imbalance is often seen in the charts of great saint, research>>> scholars too.>>> Swami vivekananda born with Moon-Saturn in Virgo , hence his>>> Philoshophical lore was great which live long.>>> Dr.B.V.Raman with Moon-Saturn in Taurus resulted in great works/books by>>> his pen.>>> In very few cases these three combination make mental worries/mentally>>> disturbed etc.>>> Depends on the other aspects of the chart.>>> In my own case Moon-Saturn together in Libra resulted in "benefic dots and>>> percentage of seats/marks" and "Mirrorology'>>> Regards>>> Sahhasra Saagara>>>>>> ------------ --------- --------->>> ** Laxmi T >>> *To:* @gro ups.com>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 8:45:20 AM>>> *Subject:* Physcological imbalance>>>>>> Dear all,>>>>>> In kp, how to see the Physiological imbalance (Mental fluctuations) in>>> the chart? Is it seen through serious afflictions of moon and mercury?>>>>>> with regards>>> tirulaxmi>>>>>>>>> ------------ --------- --------->>> Looking for local information? Find it on Local>>>>>> ------------ --------- --------->>> Looking for local information? Find it on Local>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Respected Patilji, I own Third Reader printed in October 1971. Of course there is a chapter named Rain, Electricity Supply at Page No. 313. But I could not find any mention about western aspects. I do not know which print you refer to. This is for your information. With regards. Dr. Rath VIJAYANAND PATIL <guide_vijayanandrathlutherCc: Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:49:58 PMRe: Re: Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases Sir,Thanks for the reply. If you go through the KP readers where Krishnamurtiji had compared indian vedic astrology, western astrology and Stellar Astrology, there he had mentioned that we should adopt western aspects as it is more developed than ourselves. Notonly this but he had solved so many examples taking into consideration western aspects system including day a year system. If you go through KP 3rd Reader ie. Predictive Stellar Astrology, there is one chapter named Rain, Electricity and Power supply. In this chapter, Krishnamurtiji has used day a year system and accordingly predicted the horary query and it found 100% correct in the course of time.Please let me know is ther any other use of the same.Please give your cell/land line for information. What the efforts we are taking to develop kp and remove the loop holes in the predictions, it will certainly help new comers in this system.Bravo KP System Long liveWith kind regardsWith the blessing of Lord Uchist MahaganapathiVijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision KolhapurOn Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:26:46 +0530 wrote>Dear Patilji, >Nice to hear from you. Thank you so much. What I like to point out is, we, in KP, do not follow the aspects followed in Western Astrology. During discussions during last few days some have opined that the special aspects of Saturn ( i.e. the 3rd and 10th ) are evil. I have not found mentioning about the special aspects of Mars and Jupiter yet. Some one says that affliction occurs because of own lack of immunity/weakness etc. If we believe this than a planet/bhava is afflicted according to its positioning in particular bhava, occupying certain signs or constellations or occupying particular subs. It's not because it is aspected by any particular planet or conjoined with such planet. Will you kindly extend your opinion on this.>Due regards.>Dr. Rath>>>>>___________ _________ _________ ___>VIJAYANAND PATIL >rathluther >Cc: guide_ vijayanand@ rediffmail. com>Wednesday, July 15, 2009 12:43:03 PM>Re: Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases>>In this group your posting towards afflication of planets read. Afflication according to Krishnamurthi padhati is nothing but the detrimental position to the prime and subsidiary bhavas as well as aspects from evil planets also adverse aspects in reference to the western system i.e. in multiple of 7.5 degrees. which have been eloborated by Shri KSK in readers. Also some evil combinations with conjunction will also affect the strength of the planet.>>I have translated KP readers in Marathi Language for the best understanding for students.>>With regards>Vijayanand R.Patil>President, Astrovision, The Scientific Socy. for research and Devt.in Astrology, Kolhapur, Maharashtra>Meet me at : physics@ . co.in>email me to : guide_ vijayanand@ rediffmail. com>Contact : +91 9422582853 and 9673746303>>>>>>>On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:11:53 +0530 wrote>>Respected Sirs,>>I fully agree with Sri. Punitji. Till now I have not found the definition of 'Affliction' in KP though it is frequently used in KP Readers. We need to define, what is affliction. How one planet or a cusp is afflicted, what aspects of planets afflicts others etc. What are evil aspects and what are good aspects? In LP, what I understood till now is that significators of VI, VII and XII are malifics, of course not all ways. It does not solely depent on what planet it is. Hence many things are to be clerified yet for KP followers.>>Hope some one will do needful.>>With my respect to one and all.>>Dr. Rath>>>>>>>>>>__________ _________ _________ ____>>Punit Pandey >>@gro ups.com>>Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:21:03 PM>>Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases>>>>>>>>>>>>Dear Lajmi ji,>>>>The quote too looks like from a traditional astrology book rather than KP astrology book. 'Afflicted' is also not a popular KP terminology and should be avoided, in my opinion. Can you please elaborate it more in a KP language, so that KP beginners can understand it. >>>>Thanks Regards,>>>>Punit Pandey>>>>>>>>On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dear Members,>>> As per K.P. Principles,Mental Diseases are caused if :>>> 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna andit is afflicted... and...>>> 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon Merc are afflicted... and...>>> 3) The Vth VIth are afflicted(conciousn ess is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... )>>> For more detailed information members are recommended to read the excellent book>>>"MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL" by Mr.K.Subramaniam Mr.Vaikary Ramamurthy.>>> >>> With the very best wishes,>>> Yogesh Lajmi.>>> GOOD LUCK !>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>__________ _________ _________ ____>>rashmi patel >>>@gro ups.com>>>Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:37:21 PM>>> Physcological imbalance>>>>>>>>>Namaste Sagar Ji,>>>>>>You said moon-ketu, moon-rahu, moon-mercury effect mental disorders but is it only in perticular lagna or rashis combination or more likely every where pls confirm this because I see in this one kundali moon-rahu moon-mercury opposit each other but until now its all perfect person is very inteligent active but check his is he may be in later older age could get mental disorders?>>>>>>I know one thing this person is very very emotional meaning even though he is MAN but he crys in every tv serials or he cannot see any one crying because then he gets emotinal right away so>>>there had be one reason from this combination let me tell his info>>>>>>may-12-57, 04;25am, 12n45, 45e12 gmt-3hrs east [aden-yemen]>>>>>>thanks>>>rashmi>>>>>>>>>>>>>>__________ _________ _________ ____>>Sagar S >>>@gro ups.com>>>Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:25:58 AM>>>Re: Physcological imbalance>>>>>>>>>Hi>>>I too was literally mad for 4 years.>>>On 31st December 1995 night 21-35 PM i became literally mad an di was not in my control.>>>Only on 27th June 1998 i was come out of the same.>>>I became literally mad in Mercury -Moon period.>>>SSBrahmaanda >>>>>>>>>>>>>>__________ _________ _________ ____>>Sagar S >>>@gro ups.com>>>Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 12:18:42 PM>>>Re: Physcological imbalance>>>>>>>>>Hi>>>Moon-Mercury, Moon-Rahu and Moon-Saturn affliction will influence on mental imbalance.>>>Note:>>>this imbalance is often seen in the charts of great saint, research scholars too.>>>Swami vivekananda born with Moon-Saturn in Virgo , hence his Philoshophical lore was great which live long.>>>Dr.B.V.Raman with Moon-Saturn in Taurus resulted in great works/books by his pen.>>>In very few cases these three combination make mental worries/mentally disturbed etc.>>>Depends on the other aspects of the chart.>>>In my own case Moon-Saturn together in Libra resulted in "benefic dots and percentage of seats/marks" and "Mirrorology'>>>Regards>>>Sahhasra Saagara>>>>>>>>>>>>>>__________ _________ _________ ____>>Laxmi T >>>@gro ups.com>>>Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 8:45:20 AM>>> Physcological imbalance>>>>>>>>>Dear all,>>>>>>In kp, how to see the Physiological imbalance (Mental fluctuations) in the chart? Is it seen through serious afflictions of moon and mercury? >>>>>>with regards>>>tirulaxmi>>>>>>>>>_________ _________ _________ _____>>Looking for local information? Find it on Local >>>_________ _________ _________ _____>>Looking for local information? Find it on Local >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Dear Lajmi ji, I do not understand how we can understood implied meaning without understanding the word involved. Traditional astrology has very wide meaning of word 'afflicted' and if we go by that, we will mess-up the whole KP. In your recent emails, instead of given the definition of 'afflicted', you have suggested to read the book which clearly means that the word is very loosely used in the book. I understand your love to book and hence not able to resist anything seemingly against the book, but calling it a 'futile exercise', 'lakir ke fakir, or 'nit picking' etc. is very discouraging from a senior astrologer like you. Instead of discouraging the forum by labeling discussion as 'futile' or 'nit picking', you rather encouraged forum to work together and define the word more clearly so that to avoid any confusion in future. There should be some way for beginners to understand what is written and quoted. I personally feel that sometimes you react too harshly whenever there is written anything related to the books or the people who you quote. We all respect those people, but that should not stop us from critically examining the work done by them. All that has been written is not 100% correct and more work is required to refine and improve that. I must say that sometime your harsh comments are discouraging discussion and hence learning. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi wrote: Dear TW, I guess we are,in the name of 'correct interpretaion'(all of which are very subjective indeed)...are slowly becoming " Lakir ke Fakir " ....there seems to be some kind of competition to claim the dubious honour of being the correct interpreter of the Original K.P. book...by our revered Guruji...surely he must be laughing at all of us for our uninformed pettiness... ! We seem to go " literally " ,by the words used,rather than the true/implied meanings...and endlessly carrying on a futile exercise... Better usage of the English language certainly embellishes a book...but such needless and to my mind,deliberate " nit-picking " , serves no purpose except to prove our own mindless orthodoxy...which only is bound to act as an impediment to acquiring knowledge...it was not long ago that a similar nit-picking " astrologer: who began by claiming he was only a beginner was on this site,with similar comments about what exactly KSK had said and subjected Mr.K.Subramaniam,and the sons of KSK...to all kinds insinuations... (a lot of rubbish)...was being passed as " constructive criticism " ... ! ! I am beginning to smell some such sinister conspiracy at work again...of late... With best wishes, Yogesh Lajmi. GOOD LUCK ! tw853 <tw853 Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 9:40:22 AM Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases Dear Friends,1. This book MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL by K. Subramanium or another book Astrological Diagnosis of Diseases by H. Hariharan may not help much to make clear the issue of 'inflicted' and to find the clear rules for mental disorder. 2. Infliction by traditional as well as Western aspects and houes 6,8,12 appears to be applied there. 3. In fact there is no place for 'inflicted' in KP since " the cusps indicate whether it is promised or not and sigificators point the time of event " ,(KP Reader V p 211/ New Edition p 224; KP Reader III pp 68, 148 & 194/ New Edition pp 226,313 & 362 ) and " one is to note what each planet can contribute always consider the sublord " . (KP Reader III p 194/ New Edition 362) 4. No planet is wholely malefic or benefic which depends on occupation and lordship at planet, star and sub levels.5. This KP basic rule cannot be reconciled with malefic or benefic by Traditional and Western ideas and Western good and bad aspects. 6. In addition, E grade significators by conj & aspect are weak and usually used as the last resort since all planets may be E grade significators in most cases as found in SW-print out of KP significators table.7. Moreover, only grade E significators aspected by grade A to D are to be cosidered. http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 72958. Anyway in KP medical aricles in place of 'inflicted' it has been replaced by occupation or conj or aspect (Hindu) of planets signifying 6,8,12, Maraka, Badhaka houses.. 9. The following KP idea for mental disorder by Shri Bhatt may be worthy to try.http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 25760 Regards,tw @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Punit,> I strongly recommend you get the book MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL... > I am sure you will be clear about the use of K.P. in the Medical diagnoses of diseases...> With best wishes,> Yogesh Lajmi.> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Punit Pandey <punitp > @gro ups.com > Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:56:06 PM> Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases> > > > > > Dear Lajmi ji,> > Thanks for the detailed reply. I understand that English word 'affliction' . I also understand meaning of this word in the context of traditional astrology, but I am not sure about meaning of this word in the context of KP. It requires further clarification. As correctly mentioned by Luther ji, we find reference of these words in some of the KP books which makes the rule difficult to understand by a KP astrologer.. > > Word 'affliction' is open for interpretation. Let us take all three rules one by one -> > > 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna andit is afflicted... and...> What does it mean - > a) Aries having significators of 6, 8, 12?> b) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary aspect from the significators of 6, 8, 12?> c) Aries having cuspal sub lords of 6, 8, 12? > d) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary aspect from the cuspal sublords of 6, 8, 12?> > > > 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted... and.... > a) If these planets are significators of 6, 8, 12?> b) If these planets receiving Hindu planetary aspect of the significators of 6, 8, 12?> c) If these planets receiving bad western aspects. Remember all western aspects are classified as either good or bad. > a) If these planets are cuspal sub lord of of 6, 8, 12?> > > 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousn ess is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... ) > a) if these houses are occupied by significators of 6, 8, 12?> b) if the cuspal sub lord of these houses are significators of 6, 8, 12? (At least in case of house, this looks like most possible definition to me) > c) If these cusps are receiving malefic Western asepcts. > d) If these houses are aspected by significators of 6, 8, 12> > I want to point out that the word 'afflication' in ambiguous in the context of KP and need strict definition. These kind of statements bring the ambiguity back for which traditional astrology is blamed and should be avoided as much as possible. > > To sum-up, we need to define 'afflication to sign', 'afflication to planet' and 'afflication to house' more clearly. Once defined, life of a KP student will become easy, also it will bring clarity to our discussion. > > I hope now you understand reason behind my previous email. > > Thanks & Regards,> > Punit Pandey> > > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: > > Dear Punit,> > First of all,an 'affliction' and 'infliction' (are simple English words,) and are almost always considered in an evil context,exceptions do exist,ofcourse. ..eg., afflicted by a contagious disease as distinct from ....and he " inflicted defeat " on his enemy/opponent. ..and so on....aninfliction is brought about by an external agency,while an affliction is due mostly due to one's own lack of immunity/mistake/ weakness and so on...this is a rough and ready explanation, but I suppose it serves the limited purpose... > > To quote further from Medical Astrology for All, p68,2nd Edition...1994 :> > According to K.P., " ...the VIth house shows disease,the VIIIth danger,and the XIIth,> >hospitalisation. ..The sunlord of the VIth cusp is the final deciding factor about the disease. > > Tendency to get/contract disease also depends upon the Dasa-lord,Bhukti- lord and Anthara-lord, and the Planets connected to the VI & Lagna will give rise to disease,in their conjoined periods. > > If the s/l of the VIth is in the XIIth, and becomes a strong significator of the VIth,then the native will surely suffer from an incureable ailment....> > If the s/l of the VIth is in the VIIth,and is connected to Houses,III,V & IX...mental aberation is caused...during the conjoint periods of the significators, of these houses... > > The IIrd house represents the mind...and the other houses related to the mind are I,V & IX...and the higher mind is denoted by the IXth and the lower by the IIIrd...(sic) .> > The rest I have sent in my first mail,assuming that most K.P. Followers have already read this enlightening book... > > And finally, I urge K.P. enthusiasts to study this book carefully and thoroughly.. .ofcourse, due allowance needs to be made for the poor quality of editing and the English language which seems to be a verbatim translation from Tamil into English....like with most Krishman & Co., books...quite unfortunately. .. > > With kind regards,> > Yogesh Lajmi...> > GOOD LUCK !> > > > > > > >> >> >> >> ____________ _________ _________ __> Luther Rath <rathluther> > >> >@gro ups.com > >Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:41:40 AM > >> >Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases> >> >> >> >> >> >Respected Sirs, > >I fully agree with Sri. Punitji. Till now I have not found the definition of 'Affliction' in KP though it is frequently used in KP Readers. We need to define, what is affliction. How one planet or a cusp is afflicted, what aspects of planets afflicts others etc. What are evil aspects and what are good aspects? In LP, what I understood till now is that significators of VI, VII and XII are malifics, of course not all ways. It does not solely depent on what planet it is. Hence many things are to be clerified yet for KP followers. > >Hope some one will do needful.> >With my respect to one and all.> >Dr. Rath> >> >> >> >> ____________ _________ _________ __> Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> > >> >@gro ups.com> >Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:21:03 PM> >Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases > >> >> >> >Dear Lajmi ji,> >> >The quote too looks like from a traditional astrology book rather than KP astrology book. 'Afflicted' is also not a popular KP terminology and should be avoided, in my opinion.. Can you please elaborate it more in a KP language, so that KP beginners can understand it. > >> >Thanks & Regards,> >> >Punit Pandey> >> >> >> >On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: > >> >> >>> >>> >>Dear Members,> >> As per K.P. Principles,Mental Diseases are caused if :> >> 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna andit is afflicted... and... > >> 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted... and....> >> 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousn ess is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... ) > >> For more detailed information members are recommended to read the excellent book> >> " MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL " by Mr.K.Subramaniam & Mr.Vaikary Ramamurthy. > >> > >> With the very best wishes,> >> Yogesh Lajmi.> >> GOOD LUCK ! > >> > >> > >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________ _________ _________ __> rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ > > >>@gro ups.com> >>Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:37:21 PM> >> Physcological imbalance> >> > >>> >>Namaste Sagar Ji,> >>> >>You said moon-ketu, moon-rahu, moon-mercury effect mental disorders but is it only in perticular lagna or rashis combination or more likely every where pls confirm this because I see in this one kundali moon-rahu & moon-mercury opposit each other but until now its all perfect & person is very inteligent & active but check his is he may be in later older age could get mental disorders? > >>> >>I know one thing this person is very very emotional meaning even though he is MAN but he crys in every tv serials or he cannot see any one crying because then he gets emotinal right away so > >>there had be one reason from this combination let me tell his info> >>> >>may-12-57, 04;25am, 12n45, 45e12 gmt-3hrs east [aden-yemen]> >>> >>thanks> >>rashmi > >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________ _________ _________ __> Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> >>@gro ups.com > >>Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:25:58 AM> >>Re: Physcological imbalance> >>> >>> >>Hi> >>I too was literally mad for 4 years. > >>On 31st December 1995 night 21-35 PM i became literally mad an di was not in my control.> >>Only on 27th June 1998 i was come out of the same.> >>I became literally mad in Mercury -Moon period. > >>SSBrahmaanda > >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________ _________ _________ __> Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > >>@gro ups.com> >>Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 12:18:42 PM> >>Re: Physcological imbalance> >> > >>> >>Hi> >>Moon-Mercury, Moon-Rahu and Moon-Saturn affliction will influence on mental imbalance.> >>Note:> >>this imbalance is often seen in the charts of great saint, research scholars too. > >>Swami vivekananda born with Moon-Saturn in Virgo , hence his Philoshophical lore was great which live long.> >>Dr.B.V.Raman with Moon-Saturn in Taurus resulted in great works/books by his pen. > >>In very few cases these three combination make mental worries/mentally disturbed etc.> >>Depends on the other aspects of the chart.> >>In my own case Moon-Saturn together in Libra resulted in " benefic dots and percentage of seats/marks " and " Mirrorology' > >>Regards> >>Sahhasra Saagara> >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________ _________ _________ __> Laxmi T <tirulaxmi >> >>@gro ups.com > >>Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 8:45:20 AM> >> Physcological imbalance> >>> >>> >>Dear all,> >>> >>In kp, how to see the Physiological imbalance (Mental fluctuations) in the chart? Is it seen through serious afflictions of moon and mercury? > >>> >>with regards> >>tirulaxmi> >>> >>> >>__________ _________ _________ ____> Looking for local information? Find it on Local > >>__________ _________ _________ ____> Looking for local information? Find it on Local > >>> >>> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Dear Friends, I'm here to discuss the KP issues with facts, references and reasoning, if necessary to find the truth till the cows come home, but I don't have time for rubbish. Regards, tw , Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi wrote: > > Dear TW, > I guess we are,in the name of 'correct interpretaion'(all of which are very subjective indeed)....are slowly becoming " Lakir ke Fakir " ...there seems to be some kind of competition to claim the dubious honour of being the correct interpreter of the Original K.P. book...by our revered Guruji...surely he must be laughing at all of us for our uninformed pettiness... ! > > We seem to go " literally " ,by the words used,rather than the true/implied meanings...and endlessly carrying on a futile exercise.... > > Better usage of the English language certainly embellishes a book...but such needless and to my mind,deliberate " nit-picking " , serves no purpose except to prove our own mindless orthodoxy...which only is bound to act as an impediment to acquiring knowledge...it was not long ago that a similar nit-picking " astrologer: who began by claiming he was only a beginner was on this site,with similar comments about what exactly KSK had said and subjected Mr.K.Subramaniam,and the sons of KSK...to all kinds insinuations... (a lot of rubbish)...was being passed as " constructive criticism " ... ! ! > > I am beginning to smell some such sinister conspiracy at work again...of late... > With best wishes, > Yogesh Lajmi. > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > ________________________________ > tw853 <tw853 > > Thursday, July 16, 2009 9:40:22 AM > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases > > > Dear Friends, > 1. This book MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL by K. Subramanium or another book Astrological Diagnosis of Diseases by H. Hariharan may not help much to make clear the issue of 'inflicted' and to find the clear rules for mental disorder. > 2. Infliction by traditional as well as Western aspects and houes 6,8,12 appears to be applied there. > 3. In fact there is no place for 'inflicted' in KP since " the cusps indicate whether it is promised or not and sigificators point the time of event " ,(KP Reader V p 211/ New Edition p 224; KP Reader III pp 68, 148 & 194/ New Edition pp 226,313 & 362 ) and " one is to note what each planet can contribute always consider the sublord " . (KP Reader III p 194/ New Edition 362) > 4. No planet is wholely malefic or benefic which depends on occupation and lordship at planet, star and sub levels. > 5. This KP basic rule cannot be reconciled with malefic or benefic by Traditional and Western ideas and Western good and bad aspects. > 6. In addition, E grade significators by conj & aspect are weak and usually used as the last resort since all planets may be E grade significators in most cases as found in SW-print out of KP significators table. > 7. Moreover, only grade E significators aspected by grade A to D are to be cosidered. > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 7295 > 8. Anyway in KP medical aricles in place of 'inflicted' it has been replaced by occupation or conj or aspect (Hindu) of planets signifying 6,8,12, Maraka, Badhaka houses. > 9. The following KP idea for mental disorder by Shri Bhatt may be worthy to try. > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 25760 > Regards, > tw > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Punit, > > I strongly recommend you get the book MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL... > > I am sure you will be clear about the use of K.P. in the Medical diagnoses of diseases... > > With best wishes, > > Yogesh Lajmi. > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Punit Pandey <punitp@> > > @gro ups.com > > Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:56:06 PM > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lajmi ji, > > > > Thanks for the detailed reply. I understand that English word 'affliction' . I also understand meaning of this word in the context of traditional astrology, but I am not sure about meaning of this word in the context of KP. It requires further clarification. As correctly mentioned by Luther ji, we find reference of these words in some of the KP books which makes the rule difficult to understand by a KP astrologer. > > > > Word 'affliction' is open for interpretation. Let us take all three rules one by one - > > > > > > 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna andit is afflicted... and... > > What does it mean - > > a) Aries having significators of 6, 8, 12? > > b) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary aspect from the significators of 6, 8, 12? > > c) Aries having cuspal sub lords of 6, 8, 12? > > d) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary aspect from the cuspal sublords of 6, 8, 12? > > > > > > > > 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted... and.... > > a) If these planets are significators of 6, 8, 12? > > b) If these planets receiving Hindu planetary aspect of the significators of 6, 8, 12? > > c) If these planets receiving bad western aspects. Remember all western aspects are classified as either good or bad. > > a) If these planets are cuspal sub lord of of 6, 8, 12? > > > > > > 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousn ess is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... ) > > a) if these houses are occupied by significators of 6, 8, 12? > > b) if the cuspal sub lord of these houses are significators of 6, 8, 12? (At least in case of house, this looks like most possible definition to me) > > c) If these cusps are receiving malefic Western asepcts. > > d) If these houses are aspected by significators of 6, 8, 12 > > > > I want to point out that the word 'afflication' in ambiguous in the context of KP and need strict definition. These kind of statements bring the ambiguity back for which traditional astrology is blamed and should be avoided as much as possible.. > > > > To sum-up, we need to define 'afflication to sign', 'afflication to planet' and 'afflication to house' more clearly. Once defined, life of a KP student will become easy, also it will bring clarity to our discussion. > > > > I hope now you understand reason behind my previous email. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: > > > > Dear Punit, > > > First of all,an 'affliction' and 'infliction' (are simple English words,) and are almost always considered in an evil context,exceptions do exist,ofcourse. ..eg., afflicted by a contagious disease as distinct from ....and he " inflicted defeat " on his enemy/opponent. ..and so on....aninfliction is brought about by an external agency,while an affliction is due mostly due to one's own lack of immunity/mistake/ weakness and so on...this is a rough and ready explanation, but I suppose it serves the limited purpose... > > > To quote further from Medical Astrology for All, p68,2nd Edition...1994 : > > > According to K.P., " ...the VIth house shows disease,the VIIIth danger,and the XIIth, > > >hospitalisation. ...The sunlord of the VIth cusp is the final deciding factor about the disease. > > > Tendency to get/contract disease also depends upon the Dasa-lord,Bhukti- lord and Anthara-lord, and the Planets connected to the VI & Lagna will give rise to disease,in their conjoined periods. > > > If the s/l of the VIth is in the XIIth, and becomes a strong significator of the VIth,then the native will surely suffer from an incureable ailment... > > > If the s/l of the VIth is in the VIIth,and is connected to Houses,III,V & IX...mental aberation is caused...during the conjoint periods of the significators, of these houses.... > > > The IIrd house represents the mind...and the other houses related to the mind are I,V & IX...and the higher mind is denoted by the IXth and the lower by the IIIrd...(sic) . > > > The rest I have sent in my first mail,assuming that most K.P. Followers have already read this enlightening book... > > > And finally, I urge K.P. enthusiasts to study this book carefully and thoroughly.. .ofcourse, due allowance needs to be made for the poor quality of editing and the English language which seems to be a verbatim translation from Tamil into English....like with most Krishman & Co., books...quite unfortunately. .. > > > With kind regards, > > > Yogesh Lajmi... > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Luther Rath <rathluther> > > > > > >@gro ups.com > > >Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:41:40 AM > > > > > >Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Respected Sirs, > > >I fully agree with Sri. Punitji. Till now I have not found the definition of 'Affliction' in KP though it is frequently used in KP Readers. We need to define, what is affliction. How one planet or a cusp is afflicted, what aspects of planets afflicts others etc. What are evil aspects and what are good aspects? In LP, what I understood till now is that significators of VI, VII and XII are malifics, of course not all ways. It does not solely depent on what planet it is. Hence many things are to be clerified yet for KP followers. > > >Hope some one will do needful. > > >With my respect to one and all. > > >Dr. Rath > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> > > > > > >@gro ups.com > > >Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:21:03 PM > > >Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Lajmi ji, > > > > > >The quote too looks like from a traditional astrology book rather than KP astrology book. 'Afflicted' is also not a popular KP terminology and should be avoided, in my opinion. Can you please elaborate it more in a KP language, so that KP beginners can understand it. > > > > > >Thanks & Regards, > > > > > >Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > >On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >>Dear Members, > > >> As per K.P. Principles,Mental Diseases are caused if : > > >> 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna andit is afflicted... and... > > >> 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted... and.... > > >> 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousn ess is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... ) > > >> For more detailed information members are recommended to read the excellent book > > >> " MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL " by Mr.K.Subramaniam & Mr.Vaikary Ramamurthy. > > >> > > >> With the very best wishes, > > >> Yogesh Lajmi. > > >> GOOD LUCK ! > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ > > > >>@gro ups.com > > >>Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:37:21 PM > > >> Physcological imbalance > > >> > > >> > > >>Namaste Sagar Ji, > > >> > > >>You said moon-ketu, moon-rahu, moon-mercury effect mental disorders but is it only in perticular lagna or rashis combination or more likely every where pls confirm this because I see in this one kundali moon-rahu & moon-mercury opposit each other but until now its all perfect & person is very inteligent & active but check his is he may be in later older age could get mental disorders? > > >> > > >>I know one thing this person is very very emotional meaning even though he is MAN but he crys in every tv serials or he cannot see any one crying because then he gets emotinal right away so > > >>there had be one reason from this combination let me tell his info > > >> > > >>may-12-57, 04;25am, 12n45, 45e12 gmt-3hrs east [aden-yemen] > > >> > > >>thanks > > >>rashmi > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > >>@gro ups.com > > >>Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:25:58 AM > > >>Re: Physcological imbalance > > >> > > >> > > >>Hi > > >>I too was literally mad for 4 years. > > >>On 31st December 1995 night 21-35 PM i became literally mad an di was not in my control. > > >>Only on 27th June 1998 i was come out of the same. > > >>I became literally mad in Mercury -Moon period. > > >>SSBrahmaanda > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > >>@gro ups.com > > >>Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 12:18:42 PM > > >>Re: Physcological imbalance > > >> > > >> > > >>Hi > > >>Moon-Mercury, Moon-Rahu and Moon-Saturn affliction will influence on mental imbalance. > > >>Note: > > >>this imbalance is often seen in the charts of great saint, research scholars too. > > >>Swami vivekananda born with Moon-Saturn in Virgo , hence his Philoshophical lore was great which live long. > > >>Dr.B.V.Raman with Moon-Saturn in Taurus resulted in great works/books by his pen. > > >>In very few cases these three combination make mental worries/mentally disturbed etc. > > >>Depends on the other aspects of the chart. > > >>In my own case Moon-Saturn together in Libra resulted in " benefic dots and percentage of seats/marks " and " Mirrorology' > > >>Regards > > >>Sahhasra Saagara > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Laxmi T <tirulaxmi > > > >>@gro ups.com > > >>Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 8:45:20 AM > > >> Physcological imbalance > > >> > > >> > > >>Dear all, > > >> > > >>In kp, how to see the Physiological imbalance (Mental fluctuations) in the chart? Is it seen through serious afflictions of moon and mercury? > > >> > > >>with regards > > >>tirulaxmi > > >> > > >> > > >>__________ _________ _________ ____ > > Looking for local information? Find it on Local > > >>__________ _________ _________ ____ > > Looking for local information? Find it on Local > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Rathji Pranam,Guruji considered western aspects in KP. He mentioned in some illustrations in His readers.In reader one he devoted one chapter on aspects.(P.no.109). He also opined that "there is no shame in including the western aspects when they have advanced and are correct."" whenever a planet aspects a house and the planet or planets occupying said house,then one should combine the results indicated by the house under consideration , the sign in which the house is and the planet or planets posited there in by nature and by lordship and above all the lords of nakshathra and sub portion of the nakshathra in which the planet was." (reader one P.no.112) etcGuruji bless us all !!!!regardsVGR--- On Thu, 16/7/09, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote:Luther Rath <rathlutherRe: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases Date: Thursday, 16 July, 2009, 11:33 AM Respected Punitji, I am highly impressed by your thumping presentation. We are in search of a defination. Let us expect opinion of all learned members. In my opinion the aspects followed by westerners be excluded as KP does not approve it clearly. Regards. Dr. Rath Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>@gro ups.comWednesday, July 15, 2009 8:56:06 PMRe: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases Dear Lajmi ji, Thanks for the detailed reply. I understand that English word 'affliction' . I also understand meaning of this word in the context of traditional astrology, but I am not sure about meaning of this word in the context of KP. It requires further clarification. As correctly mentioned by Luther ji, we find reference of these words in some of the KP books which makes the rule difficult to understand by a KP astrologer. Word 'affliction' is open for interpretation. Let us take all three rules one by one - 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is afflicted...and... What does it mean - a) Aries having significators of 6, 8, 12? b) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary aspect from the significators of 6, 8, 12? c) Aries having cuspal sub lords of 6, 8, 12? d) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary aspect from the cuspal sublords of 6, 8, 12? 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted...and.... a) If these planets are significators of 6, 8, 12? b) If these planets receiving Hindu planetary aspect of the significators of 6, 8, 12? c) If these planets receiving bad western aspects. Remember all western aspects are classified as either good or bad. a) If these planets are cuspal sub lord of of 6, 8, 12? 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousness is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... ) a) if these houses are occupied by significators of 6, 8, 12? b) if the cuspal sub lord of these houses are significators of 6, 8, 12? (At least in case of house, this looks like most possible definition to me) c) If these cusps are receiving malefic Western asepcts. d) If these houses are aspected by significators of 6, 8, 12 I want to point out that the word 'afflication' in ambiguous in the context of KP and need strict definition. These kind of statements bring the ambiguity back for which traditional astrology is blamed and should be avoided as much as possible. To sum-up, we need to define 'afflication to sign', 'afflication to planet' and 'afflication to house' more clearly. Once defined, life of a KP student will become easy, also it will bring clarity to our discussion. I hope now you understand reason behind my previous email. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: Dear Punit, First of all,an 'affliction' and 'infliction' (are simple English words,) and are almost always considered in an evil context,exceptions do exist,ofcourse. ..eg., afflicted by a contagious disease as distinct from ....and he"inflicted defeat" on his enemy/opponent. ..and so on....an infliction is brought about by an external agency,while an affliction is due mostly due to one's own lack of immunity/mistake/ weakness and so on...this is a rough and ready explanation, but I suppose it serves the limited purpose... To quote further from Medical Astrology for All, p68,2nd Edition...1994 : According to K.P., "...the VIth house shows disease,the VIIIth danger,and the XIIth, hospitalisation. ..The sunlord of the VIth cusp is the final deciding factor about the disease. Tendency to get/contract disease also depends upon the Dasa-lord,Bhukti- lord and Anthara-lord, and the Planets connected to the VI & Lagna will give rise to disease,in their conjoined periods. If the s/l of the VIth is in the XIIth, and becomes a strong significator of the VIth,then the native will surely suffer from an incureable ailment... If the s/l of the VIth is in the VIIth,and is connected to Houses,III,V & IX...mental aberation is caused...during the conjoint periods of the significators, of these houses... The IIrd house represents the mind...and the other houses related to the mind are I,V & IX...and the higher mind is denoted by the IXth and the lower by the IIIrd...(sic) . The rest I have sent in my first mail,assuming that most K.P. Followers have already read this enlightening book... And finally, I urge K.P. enthusiasts to study this book carefully and thoroughly.. .ofcourse, due allowance needs to be made for the poor quality of editing and the English language which seems to be a verbatim translation from Tamil into English....like with most Krishman & Co., books...quite unfortunately. .. With kind regards, Yogesh Lajmi... GOOD LUCK ! Luther Rath <rathluther > @gro ups.comWednesday, July 15, 2009 9:41:40 AM Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases Respected Sirs, I fully agree with Sri. Punitji. Till now I have not found the definition of 'Affliction' in KP though it is frequently used in KP Readers. We need to define, what is affliction. How one planet or a cusp is afflicted, what aspects of planets afflicts others etc. What are evil aspects and what are good aspects? In LP, what I understood till now is that significators of VI, VII and XII are malifics, of course not all ways. It does not solely depent on what planet it is. Hence many things are to be clerified yet for KP followers. Hope some one will do needful. With my respect to one and all. Dr. Rath Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> @gro ups.comTuesday, July 14, 2009 8:21:03 PMRe: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases Dear Lajmi ji, The quote too looks like from a traditional astrology book rather than KP astrology book. 'Afflicted' is also not a popular KP terminology and should be avoided, in my opinion. Can you please elaborate it more in a KP language, so that KP beginners can understand it. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: Dear Members, As per K.P. Principles,Mental Diseases are caused if : 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is afflicted...and... 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted...and.... 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousness is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... ) For more detailed information members are recommended to read the excellent book "MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL" by Mr.K.Subramaniam & Mr.Vaikary Ramamurthy. With the very best wishes, Yogesh Lajmi. GOOD LUCK ! rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >@gro ups.comTuesday, July 14, 2009 6:37:21 PM Physcological imbalance Namaste Sagar Ji, You said moon-ketu, moon-rahu, moon-mercury effect mental disorders but is it only in perticular lagna or rashis combination or more likely every where pls confirm this because I see in this one kundali moon-rahu & moon-mercury opposit each other but until now its all perfect & person is very inteligent & active but check his is he may be in later older age could get mental disorders? I know one thing this person is very very emotional meaning even though he is MAN but he crys in every tv serials or he cannot see any one crying because then he gets emotinal right away so there had be one reason from this combination let me tell his info may-12-57, 04;25am, 12n45, 45e12 gmt-3hrs east [aden-yemen] thanks rashmi Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.comTuesday, July 14, 2009 8:25:58 AMRe: Physcological imbalance HiI too was literally mad for 4 years.On 31st December 1995 night 21-35 PM i became literally mad an di was not in my control.Only on 27th June 1998 i was come out of the same.I became literally mad in Mercury -Moon period.SSBrahmaanda Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.comTuesday, 14 July, 2009 12:18:42 PMRe: Physcological imbalance HiMoon-Mercury, Moon-Rahu and Moon-Saturn affliction will influence on mental imbalance.Note:this imbalance is often seen in the charts of great saint, research scholars too.Swami vivekananda born with Moon-Saturn in Virgo , hence his Philoshophical lore was great which live long.Dr.B.V.Raman with Moon-Saturn in Taurus resulted in great works/books by his pen.In very few cases these three combination make mental worries/mentally disturbed etc.Depends on the other aspects of the chart.In my own case Moon-Saturn together in Libra resulted in "benefic dots and percentage of seats/marks" and "Mirrorology'RegardsSahhasra Saagara Laxmi T <tirulaxmi >@gro ups.comTuesday, 14 July, 2009 8:45:20 AM Physcological imbalance Dear all,In kp, how to see the Physiological imbalance (Mental fluctuations) in the chart? Is it seen through serious afflictions of moon and mercury? with regardstirulaxmi Looking for local information? Find it on Local Looking for local information? Find it on Local recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Dear Friends, 1. " Rain, Electricity Supply " is: a)pp 313-7 of KP Reader III " Old Version " , Practical Part 2 b)pp 491-4 of KP Reader III " New Version " c)exactly it is the same in both versions. 2. as usual in the KP Readers Vedic aspets are used there. 3. Western aspects are not used effectively in the Readers, except here and there a little bit. 4. Practically how can we consile good and bad aspects of Western with KP signification by occupation and lordship at planet, star and sub level? 5. Only using some kind of orb is applicable. 6. Another point is that Western relies only on transit, KP mainly on dasa and transit is supplementry only. Regards, tw , Luther Rath <rathluther wrote: > > Respected Patilji, > I own Third Reader printed in October 1971. Of course there is a chapter named Rain, Electricity Supply at Page No. 313. But I could not find any mention about western aspects. > I do not know which print you refer to. > This is for your information. > With regards. > Dr. Rath > > > > > ________________________________ > VIJAYANAND PATIL <guide_vijayanand > rathluther > Cc: > Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:49:58 PM > Re: Re: Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases > > > Sir, > Thanks for the reply. If you go through the KP readers where Krishnamurtiji had compared indian vedic astrology, western astrology and Stellar Astrology, there he had mentioned that we should adopt western aspects as it is more developed than ourselves. Notonly this but he had solved so many examples taking into consideration western aspects system including day a year system. If you go through KP 3rd Reader ie. Predictive Stellar Astrology, there is one chapter named Rain, Electricity and Power supply. In this chapter, Krishnamurtiji has used day a year system and accordingly predicted the horary query and it found 100% correct in the course of time. > Please let me know is ther any other use of the same. > Please give your cell/land line for information. What the efforts we are taking to develop kp and remove the loop holes in the predictions, it will certainly help new comers in this system. > Bravo KP System Long live > With kind regards > With the blessing of Lord Uchist Mahaganapathi > Vijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision Kolhapur > > > > > > On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:26:46 +0530 wrote > >Dear Patilji, > >Nice to hear from you. Thank you so much. What I like to point out is, we, in KP, do not follow the aspects followed in Western Astrology. During discussions during last few days some have opined that the special aspects of Saturn ( i.e. the 3rd and 10th ) are evil. I have not found mentioning about the special aspects of Mars and Jupiter yet. Some one says that affliction occurs because of own lack of immunity/weakness etc. If we believe this than a planet/bhava is afflicted according to its positioning in particular bhava, occupying certain signs or constellations or occupying particular subs. It's not because it is aspected by any particular planet or conjoined with such planet. Will you kindly extend your opinion on this. > >Due regards. > >Dr. Rath > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > >VIJAYANAND PATIL > >rathluther > >Cc: guide_ vijayanand@ rediffmail. com > >Wednesday, July 15, 2009 12:43:03 PM > >Re: Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases > > > >In this group your posting towards afflication of planets read. Afflication according to Krishnamurthi padhati is nothing but the detrimental position to the prime and subsidiary bhavas as well as aspects from evil planets also adverse aspects in reference to the western system i.e. in multiple of 7.5 degrees. which have been eloborated by Shri KSK in readers. Also some evil combinations with conjunction will also affect the strength of the planet. > > > >I have translated KP readers in Marathi Language for the best understanding for students. > > > >With regards > >Vijayanand R.Patil > >President, Astrovision, The Scientific Socy. for research and Devt.in Astrology, Kolhapur, Maharashtra > >Meet me at : physics@ . co.in > >email me to : guide_ vijayanand@ rediffmail. com > >Contact : +91 9422582853 and 9673746303 > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:11:53 +0530 wrote > >>Respected Sirs, > >>I fully agree with Sri. Punitji. Till now I have not found the definition of 'Affliction' in KP though it is frequently used in KP Readers. We need to define, what is affliction. How one planet or a cusp is afflicted, what aspects of planets afflicts others etc. What are evil aspects and what are good aspects? In LP, what I understood till now is that significators of VI, VII and XII are malifics, of course not all ways. It does not solely depent on what planet it is. Hence many things are to be clerified yet for KP followers. > >>Hope some one will do needful. > >>With my respect to one and all. > >>Dr. Rath > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>__________ _________ _________ ____ > >>Punit Pandey > >>@gro ups.com > >>Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:21:03 PM > >>Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>Dear Lajmi ji, > >> > >>The quote too looks like from a traditional astrology book rather than KP astrology book. 'Afflicted' is also not a popular KP terminology and should be avoided, in my opinion. Can you please elaborate it more in a KP language, so that KP beginners can understand it. > >> > >>Thanks Regards, > >> > >>Punit Pandey > >> > >> > >> > >>On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi wrote: > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > >>>Dear Members, > >>> As per K.P. Principles,Mental Diseases are caused if : > >>> 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna andit is afflicted... and... > >>> 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon Merc are afflicted... and... > >>> 3) The Vth VIth are afflicted(conciousn ess is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... ) > >>> For more detailed information members are recommended to read the excellent book > >>> " MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL " by Mr.K.Subramaniam Mr.Vaikary Ramamurthy. > >>> > >>> With the very best wishes, > >>> Yogesh Lajmi. > >>> GOOD LUCK ! > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>__________ _________ _________ ____ > >>rashmi patel > >>>@gro ups.com > >>>Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:37:21 PM > >>> Physcological imbalance > >>> > >>> > >>>Namaste Sagar Ji, > >>> > >>>You said moon-ketu, moon-rahu, moon-mercury effect mental disorders but is it only in perticular lagna or rashis combination or more likely every where pls confirm this because I see in this one kundali moon-rahu moon-mercury opposit each other but until now its all perfect person is very inteligent active but check his is he may be in later older age could get mental disorders? > >>> > >>>I know one thing this person is very very emotional meaning even though he is MAN but he crys in every tv serials or he cannot see any one crying because then he gets emotinal right away so > >>>there had be one reason from this combination let me tell his info > >>> > >>>may-12-57, 04;25am, 12n45, 45e12 gmt-3hrs east [aden-yemen] > >>> > >>>thanks > >>>rashmi > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>__________ _________ _________ ____ > >>Sagar S > >>>@gro ups.com > >>>Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:25:58 AM > >>>Re: Physcological imbalance > >>> > >>> > >>>Hi > >>>I too was literally mad for 4 years. > >>>On 31st December 1995 night 21-35 PM i became literally mad an di was not in my control. > >>>Only on 27th June 1998 i was come out of the same. > >>>I became literally mad in Mercury -Moon period. > >>>SSBrahmaanda > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>__________ _________ _________ ____ > >>Sagar S > >>>@gro ups.com > >>>Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 12:18:42 PM > >>>Re: Physcological imbalance > >>> > >>> > >>>Hi > >>>Moon-Mercury, Moon-Rahu and Moon-Saturn affliction will influence on mental imbalance. > >>>Note: > >>>this imbalance is often seen in the charts of great saint, research scholars too. > >>>Swami vivekananda born with Moon-Saturn in Virgo , hence his Philoshophical lore was great which live long. > >>>Dr.B.V.Raman with Moon-Saturn in Taurus resulted in great works/books by his pen. > >>>In very few cases these three combination make mental worries/mentally disturbed etc. > >>>Depends on the other aspects of the chart. > >>>In my own case Moon-Saturn together in Libra resulted in " benefic dots and percentage of seats/marks " and " Mirrorology' > >>>Regards > >>>Sahhasra Saagara > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>__________ _________ _________ ____ > >>Laxmi T > >>>@gro ups.com > >>>Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 8:45:20 AM > >>> Physcological imbalance > >>> > >>> > >>>Dear all, > >>> > >>>In kp, how to see the Physiological imbalance (Mental fluctuations) in the chart? Is it seen through serious afflictions of moon and mercury? > >>> > >>>with regards > >>>tirulaxmi > >>> > >>> > >>>_________ _________ _________ _____ > >>Looking for local information? Find it on Local > >>>_________ _________ _________ _____ > >>Looking for local information? Find it on Local > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Affliction to be judged in context to the houses considered. If we are for health, Aris is afflicted when :1 ) 6,8,12 cusps fall in the sign 2) Strong significators of 6,8,12 posited in the sign 3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 posited close to the cusp 3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 aspects the cusp.(both vedic and major western aspects With orb of 3deg) Planet or Cusps are afflicted if the sublord of the same is strong significator of 6,/8,/12 or 6,8,12 from the bhabha itself.For life, consider Badhaka/maraka also. Regards Suprakash Ghosh - Luther Rath Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:33 AM Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases Respected Punitji, I am highly impressed by your thumping presentation. We are in search of a defination. Let us expect opinion of all learned members. In my opinion the aspects followed by westerners be excluded as KP does not approve it clearly. Regards. Dr. Rath Punit Pandey <punitp > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:56:06 PMRe: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases Dear Lajmi ji, Thanks for the detailed reply. I understand that English word 'affliction'. I also understand meaning of this word in the context of traditional astrology, but I am not sure about meaning of this word in the context of KP. It requires further clarification. As correctly mentioned by Luther ji, we find reference of these words in some of the KP books which makes the rule difficult to understand by a KP astrologer. Word 'affliction' is open for interpretation. Let us take all three rules one by one - 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is afflicted...and... What does it mean - a) Aries having significators of 6, 8, 12? b) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary aspect from the significators of 6, 8, 12? c) Aries having cuspal sub lords of 6, 8, 12? d) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary aspect from the cuspal sublords of 6, 8, 12? 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted...and.... a) If these planets are significators of 6, 8, 12? b) If these planets receiving Hindu planetary aspect of the significators of 6, 8, 12? c) If these planets receiving bad western aspects. Remember all western aspects are classified as either good or bad. a) If these planets are cuspal sub lord of of 6, 8, 12? 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousness is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... ) a) if these houses are occupied by significators of 6, 8, 12? b) if the cuspal sub lord of these houses are significators of 6, 8, 12? (At least in case of house, this looks like most possible definition to me) c) If these cusps are receiving malefic Western asepcts. d) If these houses are aspected by significators of 6, 8, 12 I want to point out that the word 'afflication' in ambiguous in the context of KP and need strict definition. These kind of statements bring the ambiguity back for which traditional astrology is blamed and should be avoided as much as possible. To sum-up, we need to define 'afflication to sign', 'afflication to planet' and 'afflication to house' more clearly. Once defined, life of a KP student will become easy, also it will bring clarity to our discussion. I hope now you understand reason behind my previous email. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: Dear Punit, First of all,an 'affliction' and 'infliction'(are simple English words,) and are almost always considered in an evil context,exceptions do exist,ofcourse. ..eg., afflicted by a contagious disease as distinct from ....and he"inflicted defeat" on his enemy/opponent. ..and so on....an infliction is brought about by an external agency,while an affliction is due mostly due to one's own lack of immunity/mistake/ weakness and so on...this is a rough and ready explanation, but I suppose it serves the limited purpose... To quote further from Medical Astrology for All, p68,2nd Edition...1994 : According to K.P., "...the VIth house shows disease,the VIIIth danger,and the XIIth, hospitalisation. ..The sunlord of the VIth cusp is the final deciding factor about the disease. Tendency to get/contract disease also depends upon the Dasa-lord,Bhukti- lord and Anthara-lord, and the Planets connected to the VI & Lagna will give rise to disease,in their conjoined periods. If the s/l of the VIth is in the XIIth, and becomes a strong significator of the VIth,then the native will surely suffer from an incureable ailment... If the s/l of the VIth is in the VIIth,and is connected to Houses,III,V & IX...mental aberation is caused...during the conjoint periods of the significators, of these houses... The IIrd house represents the mind...and the other houses related to the mind are I,V & IX...and the higher mind is denoted by the IXth and the lower by the IIIrd...(sic) . The rest I have sent in my first mail,assuming that most K.P. Followers have already read this enlightening book... And finally, I urge K.P. enthusiasts to study this book carefully and thoroughly.. .ofcourse, due allowance needs to be made for the poor quality of editing and the English language which seems to be a verbatim translation from Tamil into English....like with most Krishman & Co., books...quite unfortunately. .. With kind regards, Yogesh Lajmi... GOOD LUCK ! Luther Rath <rathluther > @gro ups.comWednesday, July 15, 2009 9:41:40 AM Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases Respected Sirs, I fully agree with Sri. Punitji. Till now I have not found the definition of 'Affliction' in KP though it is frequently used in KP Readers. We need to define, what is affliction. How one planet or a cusp is afflicted, what aspects of planets afflicts others etc. What are evil aspects and what are good aspects? In LP, what I understood till now is that significators of VI, VII and XII are malifics, of course not all ways. It does not solely depent on what planet it is. Hence many things are to be clerified yet for KP followers. Hope some one will do needful. With my respect to one and all. Dr. Rath Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> @gro ups.comTuesday, July 14, 2009 8:21:03 PMRe: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases Dear Lajmi ji, The quote too looks like from a traditional astrology book rather than KP astrology book. 'Afflicted' is also not a popular KP terminology and should be avoided, in my opinion. Can you please elaborate it more in a KP language, so that KP beginners can understand it. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: Dear Members, As per K.P. Principles,Mental Diseases are caused if : 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is afflicted...and... 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted...and.... 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousness is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... ) For more detailed information members are recommended to read the excellent book "MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL" by Mr.K.Subramaniam & Mr.Vaikary Ramamurthy. With the very best wishes, Yogesh Lajmi. GOOD LUCK ! rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >@gro ups.comTuesday, July 14, 2009 6:37:21 PM Physcological imbalance Namaste Sagar Ji, You said moon-ketu, moon-rahu, moon-mercury effect mental disorders but is it only in perticular lagna or rashis combination or more likely every where pls confirm this because I see in this one kundali moon-rahu & moon-mercury opposit each other but until now its all perfect & person is very inteligent & active but check his is he may be in later older age could get mental disorders? I know one thing this person is very very emotional meaning even though he is MAN but he crys in every tv serials or he cannot see any one crying because then he gets emotinal right away so there had be one reason from this combination let me tell his info may-12-57, 04;25am, 12n45, 45e12 gmt-3hrs east [aden-yemen] thanks rashmi Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.comTuesday, July 14, 2009 8:25:58 AMRe: Physcological imbalance HiI too was literally mad for 4 years.On 31st December 1995 night 21-35 PM i became literally mad an di was not in my control.Only on 27th June 1998 i was come out of the same.I became literally mad in Mercury -Moon period.SSBrahmaanda Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.comTuesday, 14 July, 2009 12:18:42 PMRe: Physcological imbalance HiMoon-Mercury, Moon-Rahu and Moon-Saturn affliction will influence on mental imbalance.Note:this imbalance is often seen in the charts of great saint, research scholars too.Swami vivekananda born with Moon-Saturn in Virgo , hence his Philoshophical lore was great which live long.Dr.B.V.Raman with Moon-Saturn in Taurus resulted in great works/books by his pen.In very few cases these three combination make mental worries/mentally disturbed etc.Depends on the other aspects of the chart.In my own case Moon-Saturn together in Libra resulted in "benefic dots and percentage of seats/marks" and "Mirrorology'RegardsSahhasra Saagara Laxmi T <tirulaxmi >@gro ups.comTuesday, 14 July, 2009 8:45:20 AM Physcological imbalance Dear all,In kp, how to see the Physiological imbalance (Mental fluctuations) in the chart? Is it seen through serious afflictions of moon and mercury? with regardstirulaxmi Looking for local information? Find it on Local Looking for local information? Find it on Local Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Dear Friends, 1. KP is invented by Guruji KSK not to use so many rules. 2. Conj/aspect in KP is only in grade E significators. 3. In KP dasa is main, transit is supplementry and conj/aspect significators are weak. 4. How to fit in good or bad planets and aspects of Western and Vedic in KP? 5. If Western and Hindu aspects (including conjunction)ie. so called 'afflicted' is considered, in most cases all palnets will be significators of all houses. Pl look at the grade E significators of KP SW print-outs. 6. It'll be confusion in prediction. 7. Any idea with sufficent hard evidence will be helpful and just here say is not useful for practical application. Regards, tw , " VIJAYANAND PATIL " <guide_vijayanand wrote: > > > Dear Punitji > There are so many things to be redefined. What you have given in your posting below is correct. > > Afflication is nothing but the connection of planets/significators detrimental to the concerned bhava or 6-8-12 relationship to the concerned bhava or otherwise aspects from lord or occupants of 6-8-12. > Afflicaion plays predominant role in happening of the event. We see there are certain cases where DBAs including transit is very very favourable but if the planet/significators receive evil aspects from other planet/significators, then event is happened with a slight delay or it is not happening. So this thing is not to be neglected and taken into consideration with a very great care. Krishnamurtiji has given so many examples where he had extensive use of traditional vedic astrology rules. It is our mind what rule is to use and what is not to use. IF we come in confusion, then only we try to use so many rules at a time and we march on a wrong path leads to wrong prediction. > > With regards > Vijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision, The Scientific Socy, for Research and Devt. In Astrology, Kolhapur Maharashtra > guide_vijayanand/.co.in > Visit me at : physics > > > > On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:10:46 +0530 wrote > > Dear Lajmi ji, > > > >Thanks for the detailed reply. I understand that English word 'affliction'. > >I also understand meaning of this word in the context of traditional > >astrology, but I am not sure about meaning of this word in the context of > >KP. It requires further clarification. As correctly mentioned by Luther ji, > >we find reference of these words in some of the KP books which makes the > >rule difficult to understand by a KP astrologer. > > > >Word 'affliction' is open for interpretation. Let us take all three rules > >one by one - > > > >*1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is afflicted > >...and...* > >*What does it mean -* > >a) Aries having significators of 6, 8, 12? > >b) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary > >aspect from the significators of 6, 8, 12? > > c) Aries having cuspal sub lords of 6, 8, 12? > >d) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary aspect > >from the cuspal sublords of 6, 8, 12? > > > > > >*2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted...and....* > > a) If these planets are significators of 6, 8, 12? > >b) If these planets receiving Hindu planetary aspect of the significators of > >6, 8, 12? > > c) If these planets receiving bad western aspects. Remember all western > >aspects are classified as either good or bad. > > a) If these planets are cuspal sub lord of of 6, 8, 12? > > > >*3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousness is signified by the Vth > >house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and > >mental disorders... )* > >a) if these houses are occupied by significators of 6, 8, 12? > >b) if the cuspal sub lord of these houses are significators of 6, 8, 12? (At > >least in case of house, this looks like most possible definition to me) > >c) If these cusps are receiving malefic Western asepcts. > >d) If these houses are aspected by significators of 6, 8, 12 > > > >I want to point out that the word 'afflication' in ambiguous in the context > >of KP and need strict definition. These kind of statements bring the > >ambiguity back for which traditional astrology is blamed and should be > >avoided as much as possible. > > > >*To sum-up, we need to define 'afflication to sign', 'afflication to planet' > >and 'afflication to house' more clearly.* Once defined, life of a KP student > >will become easy, also it will bring clarity to our discussion. > > > >I hope now you understand reason behind my previous email. > > > >Thanks & Regards, > > > >Punit Pandey > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Yogesh Lajmi wrote: > > > >> Dear Punit, > >> First of all,an 'affliction' and 'infliction'(are simple > >> English words,) and are almost always considered in an evil > >> context,exceptions do exist,ofcourse...eg., *afflicted by a contagious* * > >> disease* as distinct from *....and he " inflicted defeat " * on his > >> enemy/opponent...and so on....an* infliction *is brought about by an > >> external agency,while an *affliction* is due mostly due to one's own lack > >> of immunity/mistake/weakness and so on...this is a rough and ready > >> explanation,but I suppose it serves the limited purpose... > >> To quote further from *Medical Astrology for All, p68,2nd > >> Edition...1994 :* > >> According to K.P., " ...the VIth house shows disease,the > >> VIIIth danger,and the XIIth, > >> hospitalisation...*The sunlord of the VIth cusp is the final deciding > >> factor about the disease.* > >> Tendency to get/contract disease also depends upon the > >> Dasa-lord,Bhukti-lord and Anthara-lord,and the Planets connected to the VI & > >> Lagna will give rise to disease,in their conjoined periods. > >> If the s/l of the VIth is in the XIIth, and becomes a > >> strong significator of the VIth,then the native will *surely suffer from > >> an incureable ailment...* > >> * *If the s/l of the VIth is in the VIIth,and is connected > >> to Houses,III,V & IX...*mental aberation is caused...during the conjoint > >> periods of the significators,of these houses...* > >> * *The IIrd house represents the mind...and the other > >> houses related to the mind are I,V & IX...and the higher mind is denoted by > >> the IXth and the lower by the IIIrd...(sic). > >> The rest I have sent in my first mail,assuming that most > >> K.P. Followers have already read this enlightening book... > >> And finally, I urge K.P. enthusiasts to study this book > >> carefully and thoroughly...ofcourse, due allowance needs to be made for the > >> poor quality of editing and the English language which seems to be a > >> verbatim translation from Tamil into English....like with most Krishman & > >> Co., books...quite unfortunately... > >> With kind regards, > >> Yogesh Lajmi... > >> GOOD LUCK ! > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> ** Luther Rath > >> *To:* > >> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:41:40 AM > >> *Subject:* Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental > >> Imbalance/diseases > >> > >> > >> > >> Respected Sirs, > >> > >> I fully agree with Sri. Punitji. Till now I have not found the definition > >> of 'Affliction' in KP though it is frequently used in KP Readers. We need to > >> define, what is affliction. How one planet or a cusp is afflicted, what > >> aspects of planets afflicts others etc. What are evil aspects and what are > >> good aspects? In LP, what I understood till now is that significators of VI, > >> VII and XII are malifics, of course not all ways. It does not solely depent > >> on what planet it is. Hence many things are to be clerified yet for KP > >> followers. > >> > >> Hope some one will do needful. > >> > >> With my respect to one and all. > >> > >> Dr. Rath > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> ** Punit Pandey > >> *To:* @gro ups.com > >> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:21:03 PM > >> *Subject:* Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental > >> Imbalance/diseases > >> > >> Dear Lajmi ji, > >> > >> The quote too looks like from a traditional astrology book rather than KP > >> astrology book. 'Afflicted' is also not a popular KP terminology and should > >> be avoided, in my opinion. Can you please elaborate it more in a KP > >> language, so that KP beginners can understand it. > >> > >> Thanks & Regards, > >> > >> Punit Pandey > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi > > wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> **Dear Members, > >>> As per K.P. Principles,Mental Diseases are caused > >>> if : > >>> 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna > >>> and* it is afflicted*...and... > >>> 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc *are > >>> afflicted*...and.... > >>> 3) The Vth & VIth *are afflicted*(conciousness > >>> is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator > >>> of conciousness and mental disorders... ) > >>> *For more detailed information members are > >>> recommended to read the excellent book* > >>> * " MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL " by Mr.K.Subramaniam & Mr.Vaikary Ramamurthy. > >>> * > >>> * * > >>> * *With the very best wishes*,* > >>> * *Yogesh Lajmi. > >>> GOOD LUCK ! > >>> * * > >>> * * > >>> > >>> ------------------------------ > >>> ** rashmi patel > >>> *To:* @gro ups.com > >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:37:21 PM > >>> *Subject:* Physcological imbalance > >>> > >>> Namaste Sagar Ji, > >>> > >>> You said moon-ketu, moon-rahu, moon-mercury effect mental disorders but is > >>> it only in perticular lagna or rashis combination or more likely every where > >>> pls confirm this because I see in this one kundali moon-rahu & moon-mercury > >>> opposit each other but until now its all perfect & person is very inteligent > >>> & active but check his is he may be in later older age could get mental > >>> disorders? > >>> > >>> I know one thing this person is very very emotional meaning even though he > >>> is MAN but he crys in every tv serials or he cannot see any one crying > >>> because then he gets emotinal right away so > >>> there had be one reason from this combination let me tell his info > >>> > >>> may-12-57, 04;25am, 12n45, 45e12 gmt-3hrs east [aden-yemen] > >>> > >>> thanks > >>> rashmi > >>> > >>> ------------------------------ > >>> ** Sagar S > >>> *To:* @gro ups.com > >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:25:58 AM > >>> *Subject:* Re: Physcological imbalance > >>> > >>> Hi > >>> I too was literally mad for 4 years. > >>> On 31st December 1995 night 21-35 PM i became literally mad an di was not > >>> in my control. > >>> Only on 27th June 1998 i was come out of the same. > >>> I became literally mad in Mercury -Moon period. > >>> SSBrahmaanda > >>> > >>> ------------------------------ > >>> ** Sagar S > >>> *To:* @gro ups.com > >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 12:18:42 PM > >>> *Subject:* Re: Physcological imbalance > >>> > >>> Hi > >>> Moon-Mercury, Moon-Rahu and Moon-Saturn affliction will influence on > >>> mental imbalance. > >>> Note: > >>> this imbalance is often seen in the charts of great saint, research > >>> scholars too. > >>> Swami vivekananda born with Moon-Saturn in Virgo , hence his > >>> Philoshophical lore was great which live long. > >>> Dr.B.V.Raman with Moon-Saturn in Taurus resulted in great works/books by > >>> his pen. > >>> In very few cases these three combination make mental worries/mentally > >>> disturbed etc. > >>> Depends on the other aspects of the chart. > >>> In my own case Moon-Saturn together in Libra resulted in " benefic dots and > >>> percentage of seats/marks " and " Mirrorology' > >>> Regards > >>> Sahhasra Saagara > >>> > >>> ------------------------------ > >>> ** Laxmi T > >>> *To:* @gro ups.com > >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 8:45:20 AM > >>> *Subject:* Physcological imbalance > >>> > >>> Dear all, > >>> > >>> In kp, how to see the Physiological imbalance (Mental fluctuations) in > >>> the chart? Is it seen through serious afflictions of moon and mercury? > >>> > >>> with regards > >>> tirulaxmi > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------ > >>> Looking for local information? Find it on Local > >>> > >>> ------------------------------ > >>> Looking for local information? Find it on Local > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Dear Punit, I have just posted a comprehensive quote verbatim from our beloved Guruji,the late Shri KSK. With best wishes, Yogesh Lajmi. Punit Pandey <punitp Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:26:30 PMRe: Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases Dear Lajmi ji, I do not understand how we can understood implied meaning without understanding the word involved. Traditional astrology has very wide meaning of word 'afflicted' and if we go by that, we will mess-up the whole KP. In your recent emails, instead of given the definition of 'afflicted', you have suggested to read the book which clearly means that the word is very loosely used in the book. I understand your love to book and hence not able to resist anything seemingly against the book, but calling it a 'futile exercise', 'lakir ke fakir, or 'nit picking' etc. is very discouraging from a senior astrologer like you. Instead of discouraging the forum by labeling discussion as 'futile' or 'nit picking', you rather encouraged forum to work together and define the word more clearly so that to avoid any confusion in future. There should be some way for beginners to understand what is written and quoted. I personally feel that sometimes you react too harshly whenever there is written anything related to the books or the people who you quote. We all respect those people, but that should not stop us from critically examining the work done by them. All that has been written is not 100% correct and more work is required to refine and improve that. I must say that sometime your harsh comments are discouraging discussion and hence learning. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: Dear TW, I guess we are,in the name of 'correct interpretaion'(all of which are very subjective indeed)...are slowly becoming "Lakir ke Fakir"....there seems to be some kind of competition to claim the dubious honour of being the correct interpreter of the Original K.P. book...by our revered Guruji...surely he must be laughing at all of us for our uninformed pettiness.... ! We seem to go "literally",by the words used,rather than the true/implied meanings...and endlessly carrying on a futile exercise... Better usage of the English language certainly embellishes a book...but such needless and to my mind,deliberate"nit-picking", serves no purpose except to prove our own mindless orthodoxy... which only is bound to act as an impediment to acquiring knowledge... it was not long ago that a similar nit-picking "astrologer: who began by claiming he was only a beginner was on this site,with similar comments about what exactly KSK had said and subjected Mr.K.Subramaniam, and the sons of KSK...to all kinds insinuations. .. (a lot of rubbish)...was being passed as "constructive criticism"... ! ! I am beginning to smell some such sinister conspiracy at work again...of late... With best wishes, Yogesh Lajmi.. GOOD LUCK ! tw853 <tw853 > @gro ups.comThursday, July 16, 2009 9:40:22 AM Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases Dear Friends,1. This book MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL by K. Subramanium or another book Astrological Diagnosis of Diseases by H. Hariharan may not help much to make clear the issue of 'inflicted' and to find the clear rules for mental disorder.2. Infliction by traditional as well as Western aspects and houes 6,8,12 appears to be applied there. 3. In fact there is no place for 'inflicted' in KP since "the cusps indicate whether it is promised or not and sigificators point the time of event",(KP Reader V p 211/ New Edition p 224; KP Reader III pp 68, 148 & 194/ New Edition pp 226,313 & 362 ) and "one is to note what each planet can contribute always consider the sublord". (KP Reader III p 194/ New Edition 362) 4. No planet is wholely malefic or benefic which depends on occupation and lordship at planet, star and sub levels.5. This KP basic rule cannot be reconciled with malefic or benefic by Traditional and Western ideas and Western good and bad aspects.6. In addition, E grade significators by conj & aspect are weak and usually used as the last resort since all planets may be E grade significators in most cases as found in SW-print out of KP significators table.7. Moreover, only grade E significators aspected by grade A to D are to be cosidered. http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 72958. Anyway in KP medical aricles in place of 'inflicted' it has been replaced by occupation or conj or aspect (Hindu) of planets signifying 6,8,12, Maraka, Badhaka houses.. 9. The following KP idea for mental disorder by Shri Bhatt may be worthy to try.http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 25760Regards,tw @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Punit,> I strongly recommend you get the book MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL...> I am sure you will be clear about the use of K.P. in the Medical diagnoses of diseases...> With best wishes,> Yogesh Lajmi.> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Punit Pandey <punitp > @gro ups.com > Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:56:06 PM> Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases> > > > > > Dear Lajmi ji,> > Thanks for the detailed reply. I understand that English word 'affliction' . I also understand meaning of this word in the context of traditional astrology, but I am not sure about meaning of this word in the context of KP. It requires further clarification. As correctly mentioned by Luther ji, we find reference of these words in some of the KP books which makes the rule difficult to understand by a KP astrologer.. > > Word 'affliction' is open for interpretation. Let us take all three rules one by one -> > > 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna andit is afflicted... and...> What does it mean -> a) Aries having significators of 6, 8, 12?> b) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary aspect from the significators of 6, 8, 12?> c) Aries having cuspal sub lords of 6, 8, 12?> d) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary aspect from the cuspal sublords of 6, 8, 12?> > > > 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted... and....> a) If these planets are significators of 6, 8, 12?> b) If these planets receiving Hindu planetary aspect of the significators of 6, 8, 12?> c) If these planets receiving bad western aspects. Remember all western aspects are classified as either good or bad. > a) If these planets are cuspal sub lord of of 6, 8, 12?> > > 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousn ess is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... ) > a) if these houses are occupied by significators of 6, 8, 12?> b) if the cuspal sub lord of these houses are significators of 6, 8, 12? (At least in case of house, this looks like most possible definition to me)> c) If these cusps are receiving malefic Western asepcts. > d) If these houses are aspected by significators of 6, 8, 12> > I want to point out that the word 'afflication' in ambiguous in the context of KP and need strict definition. These kind of statements bring the ambiguity back for which traditional astrology is blamed and should be avoided as much as possible. > > To sum-up, we need to define 'afflication to sign', 'afflication to planet' and 'afflication to house' more clearly. Once defined, life of a KP student will become easy, also it will bring clarity to our discussion. > > I hope now you understand reason behind my previous email. > > Thanks & Regards,> > Punit Pandey> > > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:> > Dear Punit,> > First of all,an 'affliction' and 'infliction' (are simple English words,) and are almost always considered in an evil context,exceptions do exist,ofcourse. ..eg., afflicted by a contagious disease as distinct from ....and he"inflicted defeat" on his enemy/opponent. ..and so on....aninfliction is brought about by an external agency,while an affliction is due mostly due to one's own lack of immunity/mistake/ weakness and so on...this is a rough and ready explanation, but I suppose it serves the limited purpose...> > To quote further from Medical Astrology for All, p68,2nd Edition...1994 :> > According to K.P., "...the VIth house shows disease,the VIIIth danger,and the XIIth,> >hospitalisation. ..The sunlord of the VIth cusp is the final deciding factor about the disease.> > Tendency to get/contract disease also depends upon the Dasa-lord,Bhukti- lord and Anthara-lord, and the Planets connected to the VI & Lagna will give rise to disease,in their conjoined periods.> > If the s/l of the VIth is in the XIIth, and becomes a strong significator of the VIth,then the native will surely suffer from an incureable ailment....> > If the s/l of the VIth is in the VIIth,and is connected to Houses,III,V & IX...mental aberation is caused...during the conjoint periods of the significators, of these houses...> > The IIrd house represents the mind...and the other houses related to the mind are I,V & IX...and the higher mind is denoted by the IXth and the lower by the IIIrd...(sic) .> > The rest I have sent in my first mail,assuming that most K.P. Followers have already read this enlightening book...> > And finally, I urge K.P. enthusiasts to study this book carefully and thoroughly.. .ofcourse, due allowance needs to be made for the poor quality of editing and the English language which seems to be a verbatim translation from Tamil into English....like with most Krishman & Co., books...quite unfortunately. ..> > With kind regards,> > Yogesh Lajmi...> > GOOD LUCK !> > > > > > > >> >> >> >> ____________ _________ _________ __> Luther Rath <rathluther> > >> >@gro ups.com> >Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:41:40 AM > >> >Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases> >> >> >> >> >> >Respected Sirs,> >I fully agree with Sri. Punitji. Till now I have not found the definition of 'Affliction' in KP though it is frequently used in KP Readers. We need to define, what is affliction. How one planet or a cusp is afflicted, what aspects of planets afflicts others etc. What are evil aspects and what are good aspects? In LP, what I understood till now is that significators of VI, VII and XII are malifics, of course not all ways. It does not solely depent on what planet it is. Hence many things are to be clerified yet for KP followers.> >Hope some one will do needful.> >With my respect to one and all.> >Dr. Rath> >> >> >> >> ____________ _________ _________ __> Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> >> >@gro ups.com> >Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:21:03 PM> >Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases> >> >> >> >Dear Lajmi ji,> >> >The quote too looks like from a traditional astrology book rather than KP astrology book. 'Afflicted' is also not a popular KP terminology and should be avoided, in my opinion.. Can you please elaborate it more in a KP language, so that KP beginners can understand it. > >> >Thanks & Regards,> >> >Punit Pandey> >> >> >> >On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:> >> >> >>> >>> >>Dear Members,> >> As per K.P. Principles,Mental Diseases are caused if :> >> 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna andit is afflicted... and...> >> 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted... and....> >> 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousn ess is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... ) > >> For more detailed information members are recommended to read the excellent book> >>"MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL" by Mr.K.Subramaniam & Mr.Vaikary Ramamurthy.> >> > >> With the very best wishes,> >> Yogesh Lajmi.> >> GOOD LUCK !> >> > >> > >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________ _________ _________ __> rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >> >>@gro ups.com> >>Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:37:21 PM> >> Physcological imbalance> >>> >>> >>Namaste Sagar Ji,> >>> >>You said moon-ketu, moon-rahu, moon-mercury effect mental disorders but is it only in perticular lagna or rashis combination or more likely every where pls confirm this because I see in this one kundali moon-rahu & moon-mercury opposit each other but until now its all perfect & person is very inteligent & active but check his is he may be in later older age could get mental disorders?> >>> >>I know one thing this person is very very emotional meaning even though he is MAN but he crys in every tv serials or he cannot see any one crying because then he gets emotinal right away so> >>there had be one reason from this combination let me tell his info> >>> >>may-12-57, 04;25am, 12n45, 45e12 gmt-3hrs east [aden-yemen]> >>> >>thanks> >>rashmi> >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________ _________ _________ __> Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> >>@gro ups.com> >>Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:25:58 AM> >>Re: Physcological imbalance> >>> >>> >>Hi> >>I too was literally mad for 4 years.> >>On 31st December 1995 night 21-35 PM i became literally mad an di was not in my control.> >>Only on 27th June 1998 i was come out of the same..> >>I became literally mad in Mercury -Moon period.> >>SSBrahmaanda > >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________ _________ _________ __> Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> >>@gro ups.com> >>Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 12:18:42 PM> >>Re: Physcological imbalance> >>> >>> >>Hi> >>Moon-Mercury, Moon-Rahu and Moon-Saturn affliction will influence on mental imbalance.> >>Note:> >>this imbalance is often seen in the charts of great saint, research scholars too..> >>Swami vivekananda born with Moon-Saturn in Virgo , hence his Philoshophical lore was great which live long.> >>Dr.B.V.Raman with Moon-Saturn in Taurus resulted in great works/books by his pen.> >>In very few cases these three combination make mental worries/mentally disturbed etc.> >>Depends on the other aspects of the chart.> >>In my own case Moon-Saturn together in Libra resulted in "benefic dots and percentage of seats/marks" and "Mirrorology'> >>Regards> >>Sahhasra Saagara> >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________ _________ _________ __> Laxmi T <tirulaxmi >> >>@gro ups.com> >>Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 8:45:20 AM> >> Physcological imbalance> >>> >>> >>Dear all,> >>> >>In kp, how to see the Physiological imbalance (Mental fluctuations) in the chart? Is it seen through serious afflictions of moon and mercury? > >>> >>with regards> >>tirulaxmi> >>> >>> >>__________ _________ _________ ____> Looking for local information? Find it on Local > >>__________ _________ _________ ____> Looking for local information? Find it on Local > >>> >>> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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