Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Dear all, If none of the s/l of planets are related to 2,7,11 how to judge the marriage timing. Below is the chart of a girl, no planet's s/l is related to 2,7 or 11. In this case s/l doesn't speak? D.O.B. - 24 March 1979 T.O.B. - 12.OO P.M. P.O.B. - Pune Date of marriage - 1st December 2002. Please comment on this case. with regards Dhananjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Dear Dhananjayji, I quite appreciate your keen interest in knowing the nuance of astrology. If you study deeply, K.P.system, you would be knowing whether the CSL indicates 2 or 7 or 11 for marriage in a chart. Any planet, which has no other planet in its stars is called a self strength planet or planet with positional status. In that case, the planet with such strength is full significator for the cusps to which it relates and the planets to which it is sub lord. Here in this chart, Rahu gets self strength with no planet its stars. Such self strenggth planet Rahu is cuspal sub lords for 2nd, 7th houses. As such Rahu is strong significator fopr 2nd and 7th houses. Hence Rahu is capable for giving marriage. Rahu's placementin 3rd is a supportive house for marriage and it is not negative. 7th lord is Jupiter in 2nd is good for marriage. 11th cuspal sub lord is Venus, who is called kalathra karaka (for mariage. Venus is in the star of Jupiter lord of 7th posited in 2nd.. Venus, the 11th CSL is a strong significator of 7th. Rahu 2nd and 7th CSL is in the sub of Saturn in the same Rasi where Rahu is there and both are in the star of Venus. Thus Rahu 2nd and 7th CS lord signifies kalathra KAraka Venus, a significator of 7th. Rahu has thus obtained a good combination for giving marriage. On the date of marriage, the native was running Rahu Dasa (found quite favourable as above) and Bhukthi and Anthara lord is Venus, significator of 7th. Thus DBA agrees. Hope this clears your doubt. Sincy. yours, K.S.V.Ramani. .. - Dhananjaya Kekuda Saturday, August 01, 2009 1:59 PM How to judge marriage? Dear all,If none of the s/l of planets are related to 2,7,11 how to judge the marriage timing. Below is the chart of a girl, no planet's s/l is related to 2,7 or 11. In this case s/l doesn't speak? D.O.B. - 24 March 1979T.O.B. - 12.OO P.M. P.O.B. - PuneDate of marriage - 1st December 2002. Please comment on this case. with regardsDhananjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Dear Dhananjaya, Is the birth time 12 Noon or 12 Midnight. If it is midnight is it 23rd/24th night or 24th/25th. I think one has to give some importance to 1, 5 and 8 of course in rare cases. They are 2, 7 and 11 for spouse. Dr. Rath Dhananjaya Kekuda <dhaya_pdr Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2009 1:59:54 PM How to judge marriage? Dear all,If none of the s/l of planets are related to 2,7,11 how to judge the marriage timing. Below is the chart of a girl, no planet's s/l is related to 2,7 or 11. In this case s/l doesn't speak? D.O.B. - 24 March 1979T.O.B. - 12.OO P.M. P.O.B. - PuneDate of marriage - 1st December 2002. Please comment on this case. with regardsDhananjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Dear Ramaniji, Very nice explanation in deed. It appears to be very simple but the hidden points need to be underlined. Thanks a lot. Dr. Rath kadavasal ramani <kadavasalramani Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2009 5:22:22 PMRe: How to judge marriage? Dear Dhananjayji, I quite appreciate your keen interest in knowing the nuance of astrology. If you study deeply, K.P.system, you would be knowing whether the CSL indicates 2 or 7 or 11 for marriage in a chart. Any planet, which has no other planet in its stars is called a self strength planet or planet with positional status. In that case, the planet with such strength is full significator for the cusps to which it relates and the planets to which it is sub lord. Here in this chart, Rahu gets self strength with no planet its stars. Such self strenggth planet Rahu is cuspal sub lords for 2nd, 7th houses. As such Rahu is strong significator fopr 2nd and 7th houses. Hence Rahu is capable for giving marriage. Rahu's placementin 3rd is a supportive house for marriage and it is not negative. 7th lord is Jupiter in 2nd is good for marriage. 11th cuspal sub lord is Venus, who is called kalathra karaka (for mariage. Venus is in the star of Jupiter lord of 7th posited in 2nd.. Venus, the 11th CSL is a strong significator of 7th. Rahu 2nd and 7th CSL is in the sub of Saturn in the same Rasi where Rahu is there and both are in the star of Venus. Thus Rahu 2nd and 7th CS lord signifies kalathra KAraka Venus, a significator of 7th. Rahu has thus obtained a good combination for giving marriage. On the date of marriage, the native was running Rahu Dasa (found quite favourable as above) and Bhukthi and Anthara lord is Venus, significator of 7th. Thus DBA agrees. Hope this clears your doubt. Sincy. yours, K.S.V.Ramani. .. - Dhananjaya Kekuda @gro ups.com Saturday, August 01, 2009 1:59 PM How to judge marriage? Dear all,If none of the s/l of planets are related to 2,7,11 how to judge the marriage timing. Below is the chart of a girl, no planet's s/l is related to 2,7 or 11. In this case s/l doesn't speak? D.O.B. - 24 March 1979T.O.B. - 12.OO P.M. P.O.B. - PuneDate of marriage - 1st December 2002. Please comment on this case. with regardsDhananjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Respected Mr. Ramani, Sir, I have gone thro your post again and again and have understood the following. Please correct me if I am wrong. " Because Rahu has no planet in its star, it is a self-strength planet and because it is cuspal sub-lord of the 7th house, it becomes a strong significator of the 7th house. " This rule is quite new to me and have never come across such a rule in any book I have read. Is it from the " Readers " or from some other book? Please clarify . regards, sujat karambelkar. , " kadavasal ramani " <kadavasalramani wrote: > > Dear Dhananjayji, > > I quite appreciate your keen interest in knowing the nuance of astrology. If you study deeply, K.P.system, you would be knowing > whether the CSL indicates 2 or 7 or 11 for marriage in a chart. Any planet, which has no other planet in its stars is called a self strength planet or planet with positional status. In that case, the planet with such strength is full significator for the cusps to which it relates and the planets to which it is sub lord. Here in this chart, Rahu gets self strength with no planet its stars. Such self strenggth planet Rahu is cuspal sub lords for 2nd, 7th houses. As such Rahu is strong significator fopr 2nd and 7th houses. Hence Rahu is capable for giving marriage. Rahu's placementin 3rd is a supportive house for marriage and it is not negative. > 7th lord is Jupiter in 2nd is good for marriage. 11th cuspal sub lord is Venus, who is called kalathra karaka (for mariage. > Venus is in the star of Jupiter lord of 7th posited in 2nd.. Venus, the 11th CSL is a strong significator of 7th. Rahu 2nd and 7th CSL is in the sub of Saturn in the same Rasi where Rahu is there and both are in the star of Venus. Thus Rahu 2nd and 7th CS lord signifies kalathra KAraka Venus, a significator of 7th. Rahu has thus obtained a good combination for giving marriage. > On the date of marriage, the native was running Rahu Dasa (found quite favourable as above) and Bhukthi and Anthara lord is Venus, significator of 7th. Thus DBA agrees. Hope this clears your doubt. > > Sincy. yours, > > K.S.V.Ramani. > . > > - > Dhananjaya Kekuda > > Saturday, August 01, 2009 1:59 PM > How to judge marriage? > > > > > Dear all, > > If none of the s/l of planets are related to 2,7,11 how to judge the marriage timing. Below is the chart of a girl, no planet's s/l is related to 2,7 or 11. In this case s/l doesn't speak? > > D.O.B. - 24 March 1979 > T.O.B. - 12.OO P.M. > P.O.B. - Pune > > Date of marriage - 1st December 2002. > > Please comment on this case. > > with regards > Dhananjay > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 Dear Mr. Sujatkaram, There will be a hint or one line in original slokas or writing of great saints in Bhagwat Geeta or Ramayana etc. This has to be grasped and from the explanations to it by many other scholars. Like that there is original writing of late Guruji Sri KSK in Volume III under "Cusps and Subs - How to judge", a\n example has been given. "Lord of Lagna is Sun, signifies 9 and 12. Planets if deposited in the will refer to the matters signified by Sun., which is Lagna. There is no planet in Sun's star. Hence Sun gives Lagna results and his own significations of 9 and 12." Based on this there are several articles by Prof. Vaikari Ramamurthy and late Shri K.M.Subramanian in K.P.Astrological Magazines. Similar treatment is given to the planets as Sub Lord of cusps, whose stars are untenanted. You may find them in the latest volumes of Book "Sub lords Speak" by Shri KMS, which is worth reading for prac titioners. Tours truly, K.S.V.Ramani. - sujatkaram Saturday, August 01, 2009 11:03 PM Re: How to judge marriage? Respected Mr. Ramani,Sir,I have gone thro your post again and again and have understood the following. Please correct me if I am wrong."Because Rahu has no planet in its star, it is a self-strength planet and because it is cuspal sub-lord of the 7th house, it becomes a strong significator of the 7th house."This rule is quite new to me and have never come across such a rule in any book I have read. Is it from the "Readers" or from some other book? Please clarify .regards,sujat karambelkar. , "kadavasal ramani" <kadavasalramani wrote:>> Dear Dhananjayji,> > I quite appreciate your keen interest in knowing the nuance of astrology. If you study deeply, K.P.system, you would be knowing> whether the CSL indicates 2 or 7 or 11 for marriage in a chart. Any planet, which has no other planet in its stars is called a self strength planet or planet with positional status. In that case, the planet with such strength is full significator for the cusps to which it relates and the planets to which it is sub lord. Here in this chart, Rahu gets self strength with no planet its stars. Such self strenggth planet Rahu is cuspal sub lords for 2nd, 7th houses. As such Rahu is strong significator fopr 2nd and 7th houses. Hence Rahu is capable for giving marriage. Rahu's placementin 3rd is a supportive house for marriage and it is not negative.> 7th lord is Jupiter in 2nd is good for marriage. 11th cuspal sub lord is Venus, who is called kalathra karaka (for mariage.> Venus is in the star of Jupiter lord of 7th posited in 2nd.. Venus, the 11th CSL is a strong significator of 7th. Rahu 2nd and 7th CSL is in the sub of Saturn in the same Rasi where Rahu is there and both are in the star of Venus. Thus Rahu 2nd and 7th CS lord signifies kalathra KAraka Venus, a significator of 7th. Rahu has thus obtained a good combination for giving marriage. > On the date of marriage, the native was running Rahu Dasa (found quite favourable as above) and Bhukthi and Anthara lord is Venus, significator of 7th. Thus DBA agrees. Hope this clears your doubt.> > Sincy. yours,> > K.S.V.Ramani. > .> > - > Dhananjaya Kekuda > > Saturday, August 01, 2009 1:59 PM> How to judge marriage?> > > > > Dear all,> > If none of the s/l of planets are related to 2,7,11 how to judge the marriage timing. Below is the chart of a girl, no planet's s/l is related to 2,7 or 11. In this case s/l doesn't speak? > > D.O.B. - 24 March 1979> T.O.B. - 12.OO P.M. > P.O.B. - Pune> > Date of marriage - 1st December 2002. > > Please comment on this case. > > with regards> Dhananjay> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 Dear Ramani ji,Thanks a lot for the very nice analysis. It helps people who have the desire to learn kp system at minute level. Thanks again sir. with regardsDhananjay--- On Sat, 8/1/09, kadavasal ramani <kadavasalramani wrote:kadavasal ramani <kadavasalramaniRe: How to judge marriage? Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 4:52 AM Dear Dhananjayji, I quite appreciate your keen interest in knowing the nuance of astrology. If you study deeply, K.P.system, you would be knowing whether the CSL indicates 2 or 7 or 11 for marriage in a chart. Any planet, which has no other planet in its stars is called a self strength planet or planet with positional status. In that case, the planet with such strength is full significator for the cusps to which it relates and the planets to which it is sub lord. Here in this chart, Rahu gets self strength with no planet its stars. Such self strenggth planet Rahu is cuspal sub lords for 2nd, 7th houses. As such Rahu is strong significator fopr 2nd and 7th houses. Hence Rahu is capable for giving marriage. Rahu's placementin 3rd is a supportive house for marriage and it is not negative. 7th lord is Jupiter in 2nd is good for marriage. 11th cuspal sub lord is Venus, who is called kalathra karaka (for mariage. Venus is in the star of Jupiter lord of 7th posited in 2nd.. Venus, the 11th CSL is a strong significator of 7th. Rahu 2nd and 7th CSL is in the sub of Saturn in the same Rasi where Rahu is there and both are in the star of Venus. Thus Rahu 2nd and 7th CS lord signifies kalathra KAraka Venus, a significator of 7th. Rahu has thus obtained a good combination for giving marriage. On the date of marriage, the native was running Rahu Dasa (found quite favourable as above) and Bhukthi and Anthara lord is Venus, significator of 7th. Thus DBA agrees. Hope this clears your doubt. Sincy. yours, K.S.V.Ramani. .. - Dhananjaya Kekuda @gro ups.com Saturday, August 01, 2009 1:59 PM How to judge marriage? Dear all,If none of the s/l of planets are related to 2,7,11 how to judge the marriage timing. Below is the chart of a girl, no planet's s/l is related to 2,7 or 11. In this case s/l doesn't speak? D.O.B. - 24 March 1979T.O.B. - 12.OO P.M. P.O.B. - PuneDate of marriage - 1st December 2002. Please comment on this case. with regardsDhananjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 Dear Rath ji,It was 12 p.m. meaning 12 noon. Ramani ji already has given a wonderful analysis clearing my doubt. Thanks you for your response. with regardsDhananjay--- On Sat, 8/1/09, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote:Luther Rath <rathlutherRe: How to judge marriage? Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 7:57 AM Dear Dhananjaya, Is the birth time 12 Noon or 12 Midnight. If it is midnight is it 23rd/24th night or 24th/25th. I think one has to give some importance to 1, 5 and 8 of course in rare cases. They are 2, 7 and 11 for spouse. Dr. Rath Dhananjaya Kekuda <dhaya_pdr >@gro ups.comSaturday, August 1, 2009 1:59:54 PM How to judge marriage? Dear all,If none of the s/l of planets are related to 2,7,11 how to judge the marriage timing. Below is the chart of a girl, no planet's s/l is related to 2,7 or 11. In this case s/l doesn't speak? D.O.B. - 24 March 1979T.O.B. - 12.OO P.M. P.O.B. - PuneDate of marriage - 1st December 2002. Please comment on this case. with regardsDhananjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 Dear Dr.Rath, I am honoured by the receripy of appreciation from such a senior and learned person like you. Thanking you once gazin. Astrologically yours, K.S.V.Ramani - Luther Rath Saturday, August 01, 2009 8:32 PM Re: How to judge marriage? Dear Ramaniji, Very nice explanation in deed. It appears to be very simple but the hidden points need to be underlined. Thanks a lot. Dr. Rath kadavasal ramani <kadavasalramani > Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2009 5:22:22 PMRe: How to judge marriage? Dear Dhananjayji, I quite appreciate your keen interest in knowing the nuance of astrology. If you study deeply, K.P.system, you would be knowing whether the CSL indicates 2 or 7 or 11 for marriage in a chart. Any planet, which has no other planet in its stars is called a self strength planet or planet with positional status. In that case, the planet with such strength is full significator for the cusps to which it relates and the planets to which it is sub lord. Here in this chart, Rahu gets self strength with no planet its stars. Such self strenggth planet Rahu is cuspal sub lords for 2nd, 7th houses. As such Rahu is strong significator fopr 2nd and 7th houses. Hence Rahu is capable for giving marriage. Rahu's placementin 3rd is a supportive house for marriage and it is not negative. 7th lord is Jupiter in 2nd is good for marriage. 11th cuspal sub lord is Venus, who is called kalathra karaka (for mariage. Venus is in the star of Jupiter lord of 7th posited in 2nd.. Venus, the 11th CSL is a strong significator of 7th. Rahu 2nd and 7th CSL is in the sub of Saturn in the same Rasi where Rahu is there and both are in the star of Venus. Thus Rahu 2nd and 7th CS lord signifies kalathra KAraka Venus, a significator of 7th. Rahu has thus obtained a good combination for giving marriage. On the date of marriage, the native was running Rahu Dasa (found quite favourable as above) and Bhukthi and Anthara lord is Venus, significator of 7th. Thus DBA agrees. Hope this clears your doubt. Sincy. yours, K.S.V.Ramani. .. - Dhananjaya Kekuda @gro ups.com Saturday, August 01, 2009 1:59 PM How to judge marriage? Dear all,If none of the s/l of planets are related to 2,7,11 how to judge the marriage timing. Below is the chart of a girl, no planet's s/l is related to 2,7 or 11. In this case s/l doesn't speak? D.O.B. - 24 March 1979T.O.B. - 12.OO P.M. P.O.B. - PuneDate of marriage - 1st December 2002. Please comment on this case. with regardsDhananjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 Ramaniji pranam, "11th cuspal sub lord is Venus, who is called kalathra karaka (for mariage. Venus is in the star of Jupiter lord of 7th posited in 2nd.. "but sir as per my sw (jh hora) venus is in mars star mercry sub !!pls verify thisregardsVGR--- On Sat, 1/8/09, kadavasal ramani <kadavasalramani wrote:kadavasal ramani <kadavasalramaniRe: How to judge marriage? Date: Saturday, 1 August, 2009, 5:22 PM Dear Dhananjayji, I quite appreciate your keen interest in knowing the nuance of astrology. If you study deeply, K.P.system, you would be knowing whether the CSL indicates 2 or 7 or 11 for marriage in a chart. Any planet, which has no other planet in its stars is called a self strength planet or planet with positional status. In that case, the planet with such strength is full significator for the cusps to which it relates and the planets to which it is sub lord. Here in this chart, Rahu gets self strength with no planet its stars. Such self strenggth planet Rahu is cuspal sub lords for 2nd, 7th houses. As such Rahu is strong significator fopr 2nd and 7th houses. Hence Rahu is capable for giving marriage. Rahu's placementin 3rd is a supportive house for marriage and it is not negative. 7th lord is Jupiter in 2nd is good for marriage. 11th cuspal sub lord is Venus, who is called kalathra karaka (for mariage. Venus is in the star of Jupiter lord of 7th posited in 2nd.. Venus, the 11th CSL is a strong significator of 7th. Rahu 2nd and 7th CSL is in the sub of Saturn in the same Rasi where Rahu is there and both are in the star of Venus. Thus Rahu 2nd and 7th CS lord signifies kalathra KAraka Venus, a significator of 7th. Rahu has thus obtained a good combination for giving marriage. On the date of marriage, the native was running Rahu Dasa (found quite favourable as above) and Bhukthi and Anthara lord is Venus, significator of 7th. Thus DBA agrees. Hope this clears your doubt. Sincy. yours, K.S.V.Ramani. .. - Dhananjaya Kekuda @gro ups.com Saturday, August 01, 2009 1:59 PM How to judge marriage? Dear all,If none of the s/l of planets are related to 2,7,11 how to judge the marriage timing. Below is the chart of a girl, no planet's s/l is related to 2,7 or 11. In this case s/l doesn't speak? D.O.B. - 24 March 1979T.O.B. - 12.OO P.M. P.O.B. - PuneDate of marriage - 1st December 2002. Please comment on this case. with regardsDhananjay See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 Dear Ramani ji,Nice explanation!All the points seem to be perfect to my knowledge. I also like to add the following to your points.Rahu is aspected by Mars (Lord of 11 and 6 in the star of Jupiter 7,2 ) and Venus (lord of 5 and 12 in the star of Mars signfying 11,6,7,2). Though these 11,5,2,7 are signfying the marriage, the 6,12 are capable of giving some disturbances in the happy marital life. As ever I say, Nodes are like " Multi Faced weapons " . which can act at any angle or directions which we have to look into very carefully the possibilities.With RegardsAdithwww.thebestastro.com On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 5:22 PM, kadavasal ramani <kadavasalramani wrote: Dear Dhananjayji, I quite appreciate your keen interest in knowing the nuance of astrology. If you study deeply, K.P.system, you would be knowing whether the CSL indicates 2 or 7 or 11 for marriage in a chart. Any planet, which has no other planet in its stars is called a self strength planet or planet with positional status. In that case, the planet with such strength is full significator for the cusps to which it relates and the planets to which it is sub lord. Here in this chart, Rahu gets self strength with no planet its stars. Such self strenggth planet Rahu is cuspal sub lords for 2nd, 7th houses. As such Rahu is strong significator fopr 2nd and 7th houses. Hence Rahu is capable for giving marriage. Rahu's placementin 3rd is a supportive house for marriage and it is not negative. 7th lord is Jupiter in 2nd is good for marriage. 11th cuspal sub lord is Venus, who is called kalathra karaka (for mariage. Venus is in the star of Jupiter lord of 7th posited in 2nd.. Venus, the 11th CSL is a strong significator of 7th. Rahu 2nd and 7th CSL is in the sub of Saturn in the same Rasi where Rahu is there and both are in the star of Venus. Thus Rahu 2nd and 7th CS lord signifies kalathra KAraka Venus, a significator of 7th. Rahu has thus obtained a good combination for giving marriage. On the date of marriage, the native was running Rahu Dasa (found quite favourable as above) and Bhukthi and Anthara lord is Venus, significator of 7th. Thus DBA agrees. Hope this clears your doubt. Sincy. yours, K.S.V.Ramani. .. - Dhananjaya Kekuda Saturday, August 01, 2009 1:59 PM How to judge marriage? Dear all,If none of the s/l of planets are related to 2,7,11 how to judge the marriage timing. Below is the chart of a girl, no planet's s/l is related to 2,7 or 11. In this case s/l doesn't speak? D.O.B. - 24 March 1979T.O.B. - 12.OO P.M. P.O.B. - PuneDate of marriage - 1st December 2002. Please comment on this case. with regardsDhananjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 Dear Mr.Rath, As per K.P., the day is taken from sunrise to sunrise ? Kindly reconcile... Yogesh Lajmi. Luther Rath <rathluther Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2009 8:27:01 PMRe: How to judge marriage? Dear Dhananjaya, Is the birth time 12 Noon or 12 Midnight. If it is midnight is it 23rd/24th night or 24th/25th. I think one has to give some importance to 1, 5 and 8 of course in rare cases. They are 2, 7 and 11 for spouse. Dr. Rath Dhananjaya Kekuda <dhaya_pdr >@gro ups.comSaturday, August 1, 2009 1:59:54 PM How to judge marriage? Dear all,If none of the s/l of planets are related to 2,7,11 how to judge the marriage timing. Below is the chart of a girl, no planet's s/l is related to 2,7 or 11. In this case s/l doesn't speak? D.O.B. - 24 March 1979T.O.B. - 12.OO P.M. P.O.B. - PuneDate of marriage - 1st December 2002. Please comment on this case. with regardsDhananjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 Respected Mr. Ramani Sir, Thanks for giving this wonderful insight into KP Rules. regards, sujat. , " kadavasal ramani " <kadavasalramani wrote: > > Dear Mr. Sujatkaram, > > There will be a hint or one line in original slokas or writing of great saints in Bhagwat Geeta or Ramayana etc. This has to be grasped and from the explanations to it by many other scholars. Like that there is original writing of late Guruji Sri KSK in Volume III under " Cusps and Subs - How to judge " , a\n example has been given. " Lord of Lagna is Sun, signifies 9 and 12. Planets if deposited in the will refer to the matters signified by Sun., which is Lagna. There is no planet in Sun's star. Hence Sun gives Lagna results and his own significations of 9 and 12. " Based on this there are several articles by Prof. Vaikari Ramamurthy and late Shri K.M.Subramanian in K.P.Astrological Magazines. Similar treatment is given to the planets as Sub Lord of cusps, whose stars are untenanted. You may find them in the latest volumes of Book " Sub lords Speak " by Shri KMS, which is worth reading for > prac titioners. > > Tours truly, > > K.S.V.Ramani. > > > - > sujatkaram > > Saturday, August 01, 2009 11:03 PM > Re: How to judge marriage? > > > Respected Mr. Ramani, > Sir, > I have gone thro your post again and again and have understood the following. Please correct me if I am wrong. > " Because Rahu has no planet in its star, it is a self-strength planet and because it is cuspal sub-lord of the 7th house, it becomes a strong significator of the 7th house. " > This rule is quite new to me and have never come across such a rule in any book I have read. Is it from the " Readers " or from some other book? > Please clarify . > regards, > sujat karambelkar. , " kadavasal ramani " <kadavasalramani@> wrote: > > > > Dear Dhananjayji, > > > > I quite appreciate your keen interest in knowing the nuance of astrology. If you study deeply, K.P.system, you would be knowing > > whether the CSL indicates 2 or 7 or 11 for marriage in a chart. Any planet, which has no other planet in its stars is called a self strength planet or planet with positional status. In that case, the planet with such strength is full significator for the cusps to which it relates and the planets to which it is sub lord. Here in this chart, Rahu gets self strength with no planet its stars. Such self strenggth planet Rahu is cuspal sub lords for 2nd, 7th houses. As such Rahu is strong significator fopr 2nd and 7th houses. Hence Rahu is capable for giving marriage. Rahu's placementin 3rd is a supportive house for marriage and it is not negative. > > 7th lord is Jupiter in 2nd is good for marriage. 11th cuspal sub lord is Venus, who is called kalathra karaka (for mariage. > > Venus is in the star of Jupiter lord of 7th posited in 2nd.. Venus, the 11th CSL is a strong significator of 7th. Rahu 2nd and 7th CSL is in the sub of Saturn in the same Rasi where Rahu is there and both are in the star of Venus. Thus Rahu 2nd and 7th CS lord signifies kalathra KAraka Venus, a significator of 7th. Rahu has thus obtained a good combination for giving marriage. > > On the date of marriage, the native was running Rahu Dasa (found quite favourable as above) and Bhukthi and Anthara lord is Venus, significator of 7th. Thus DBA agrees. Hope this clears your doubt. > > > > Sincy. yours, > > > > K.S.V.Ramani. > > . > > > > - > > Dhananjaya Kekuda > > > > Saturday, August 01, 2009 1:59 PM > > How to judge marriage? > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > If none of the s/l of planets are related to 2,7,11 how to judge the marriage timing. Below is the chart of a girl, no planet's s/l is related to 2,7 or 11. In this case s/l doesn't speak? > > > > D.O.B. - 24 March 1979 > > T.O.B. - 12.OO P.M. > > P.O.B. - Pune > > > > Date of marriage - 1st December 2002. > > > > Please comment on this case. > > > > with regards > > Dhananjay > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 Dezr Adithji, Thanks for your appreciation. Yes, I too noticed the unhappy married life; but as the point at issue is marrying a person with much age difference say 12 years, I did not comment about it. Th\nks for your valuable comment. Astrologic ally yours, K.S.V.Ramani - adith kasinath.g.k Sunday, August 02, 2009 12:39 PM Re: How to judge marriage? Dear Ramani ji,Nice explanation!All the points seem to be perfect to my knowledge. I also like to add the following to your points.Rahu is aspected by Mars (Lord of 11 and 6 in the star of Jupiter 7,2 ) and Venus (lord of 5 and 12 in the star of Mars signfying 11,6,7,2). Though these 11,5,2,7 are signfying the marriage, the 6,12 are capable of giving some disturbances in the happy marital life.As ever I say, Nodes are like "Multi Faced weapons". which can act at any angle or directions which we have to look into very carefully the possibilities.With RegardsAdithwww.thebestastro.com On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 5:22 PM, kadavasal ramani <kadavasalramani > wrote: Dear Dhananjayji, I quite appreciate your keen interest in knowing the nuance of astrology. If you study deeply, K.P.system, you would be knowing whether the CSL indicates 2 or 7 or 11 for marriage in a chart. Any planet, which has no other planet in its stars is called a self strength planet or planet with positional status. In that case, the planet with such strength is full significator for the cusps to which it relates and the planets to which it is sub lord. Here in this chart, Rahu gets self strength with no planet its stars. Such self strenggth planet Rahu is cuspal sub lords for 2nd, 7th houses. As such Rahu is strong significator fopr 2nd and 7th houses. Hence Rahu is capable for giving marriage. Rahu's placementin 3rd is a supportive house for marriage and it is not negative. 7th lord is Jupiter in 2nd is good for marriage. 11th cuspal sub lord is Venus, who is called kalathra karaka (for mariage. Venus is in the star of Jupiter lord of 7th posited in 2nd.. Venus, the 11th CSL is a strong significator of 7th. Rahu 2nd and 7th CSL is in the sub of Saturn in the same Rasi where Rahu is there and both are in the star of Venus. Thus Rahu 2nd and 7th CS lord signifies kalathra KAraka Venus, a significator of 7th. Rahu has thus obtained a good combination for giving marriage. On the date of marriage, the native was running Rahu Dasa (found quite favourable as above) and Bhukthi and Anthara lord is Venus, significator of 7th. Thus DBA agrees. Hope this clears your doubt. Sincy. yours, K.S.V.Ramani. .. - Dhananjaya Kekuda Saturday, August 01, 2009 1:59 PM How to judge marriage? Dear all,If none of the s/l of planets are related to 2,7,11 how to judge the marriage timing. Below is the chart of a girl, no planet's s/l is related to 2,7 or 11. In this case s/l doesn't speak? D.O.B. - 24 March 1979T.O.B. - 12.OO P.M. P.O.B. - PuneDate of marriage - 1st December 2002. Please comment on this case. with regardsDhananjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 Dear Shri Adithji, Thanks for your appreciation. I too noticed the point explained by you; but as the point at issue is about the marriage of the native with a person older in age say diff. about 12 years or so, I did not touch this point as not relevent to the query. Thanking you you for your further study on the chart, which is to be confirmed or otherwise by Shri Dhananjayji. Astrologically yours, K.S.V.Ramani - adith kasinath.g.k Sunday, August 02, 2009 12:39 PM Re: How to judge marriage? Dear Ramani ji,Nice explanation!All the points seem to be perfect to my knowledge. I also like to add the following to your points.Rahu is aspected by Mars (Lord of 11 and 6 in the star of Jupiter 7,2 ) and Venus (lord of 5 and 12 in the star of Mars signfying 11,6,7,2). Though these 11,5,2,7 are signfying the marriage, the 6,12 are capable of giving some disturbances in the happy marital life.As ever I say, Nodes are like "Multi Faced weapons". which can act at any angle or directions which we have to look into very carefully the possibilities.With RegardsAdithwww.thebestastro.com On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 5:22 PM, kadavasal ramani <kadavasalramani > wrote: Dear Dhananjayji, I quite appreciate your keen interest in knowing the nuance of astrology. If you study deeply, K.P.system, you would be knowing whether the CSL indicates 2 or 7 or 11 for marriage in a chart. Any planet, which has no other planet in its stars is called a self strength planet or planet with positional status. In that case, the planet with such strength is full significator for the cusps to which it relates and the planets to which it is sub lord. Here in this chart, Rahu gets self strength with no planet its stars. Such self strenggth planet Rahu is cuspal sub lords for 2nd, 7th houses. As such Rahu is strong significator fopr 2nd and 7th houses. Hence Rahu is capable for giving marriage. Rahu's placementin 3rd is a supportive house for marriage and it is not negative. 7th lord is Jupiter in 2nd is good for marriage. 11th cuspal sub lord is Venus, who is called kalathra karaka (for mariage. Venus is in the star of Jupiter lord of 7th posited in 2nd.. Venus, the 11th CSL is a strong significator of 7th. Rahu 2nd and 7th CSL is in the sub of Saturn in the same Rasi where Rahu is there and both are in the star of Venus. Thus Rahu 2nd and 7th CS lord signifies kalathra KAraka Venus, a significator of 7th. Rahu has thus obtained a good combination for giving marriage. On the date of marriage, the native was running Rahu Dasa (found quite favourable as above) and Bhukthi and Anthara lord is Venus, significator of 7th. Thus DBA agrees. Hope this clears your doubt. Sincy. yours, K.S.V.Ramani. .. - Dhananjaya Kekuda Saturday, August 01, 2009 1:59 PM How to judge marriage? Dear all,If none of the s/l of planets are related to 2,7,11 how to judge the marriage timing. Below is the chart of a girl, no planet's s/l is related to 2,7 or 11. In this case s/l doesn't speak? D.O.B. - 24 March 1979T.O.B. - 12.OO P.M. P.O.B. - PuneDate of marriage - 1st December 2002. Please comment on this case. with regardsDhananjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 Dear Pavanji, Thanks for pointing out the sublord of Venus is Mercury instead of Moon as I incorrectly stated. But any how the result will not be changed, as Mercury S/L iof Venusa too is very much connected to Saturn, which has given the female native husband with much age difference. Hope this satisfies you. Yours truly, K.S.V.Ramani - Dear vgr pavan Sunday, August 02, 2009 12:24 PM Re: How to judge marriage? Ramaniji pranam, "11th cuspal sub lord is Venus, who is called kalathra karaka (for mariage. Venus is in the star of Jupiter lord of 7th posited in 2nd.. "but sir as per my sw (jh hora) venus is in mars star mercry sub !!pls verify thisregardsVGR--- On Sat, 1/8/09, kadavasal ramani <kadavasalramani > wrote: kadavasal ramani <kadavasalramani >Re: How to judge marriage? Date: Saturday, 1 August, 2009, 5:22 PM Dear Dhananjayji, I quite appreciate your keen interest in knowing the nuance of astrology. If you study deeply, K.P.system, you would be knowing whether the CSL indicates 2 or 7 or 11 for marriage in a chart. Any planet, which has no other planet in its stars is called a self strength planet or planet with positional status. In that case, the planet with such strength is full significator for the cusps to which it relates and the planets to which it is sub lord. Here in this chart, Rahu gets self strength with no planet its stars. Such self strenggth planet Rahu is cuspal sub lords for 2nd, 7th houses. As such Rahu is strong significator fopr 2nd and 7th houses. Hence Rahu is capable for giving marriage. Rahu's placementin 3rd is a supportive house for marriage and it is not negative. 7th lord is Jupiter in 2nd is good for marriage. 11th cuspal sub lord is Venus, who is called kalathra karaka (for mariage. Venus is in the star of Jupiter lord of 7th posited in 2nd.. Venus, the 11th CSL is a strong significator of 7th. Rahu 2nd and 7th CSL is in the sub of Saturn in the same Rasi where Rahu is there and both are in the star of Venus. Thus Rahu 2nd and 7th CS lord signifies kalathra KAraka Venus, a significator of 7th. Rahu has thus obtained a good combination for giving marriage. On the date of marriage, the native was running Rahu Dasa (found quite favourable as above) and Bhukthi and Anthara lord is Venus, significator of 7th. Thus DBA agrees. Hope this clears your doubt. Sincy. yours, K.S.V.Ramani. .. - Dhananjaya Kekuda @gro ups.com Saturday, August 01, 2009 1:59 PM How to judge marriage? Dear all,If none of the s/l of planets are related to 2,7,11 how to judge the marriage timing. Below is the chart of a girl, no planet's s/l is related to 2,7 or 11. In this case s/l doesn't speak? D.O.B. - 24 March 1979T.O.B. - 12.OO P.M. P.O.B. - PuneDate of marriage - 1st December 2002. Please comment on this case. with regardsDhananjay See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 Dear Pavanji, Thanks for pointing out the sublord of Venus is Mercury instead of Moon as I incorrectly stated. But any how the result will not be changed, as Mercury S/L iof Venusa too is very much connected to Saturn, which has given the female native husband with much age difference. Hope this satisfies you. Yours truly, K.S.V.Ramani - Dear vgr pavan Sunday, August 02, 2009 12:24 PM Re: How to judge marriage? Ramaniji pranam, "11th cuspal sub lord is Venus, who is called kalathra karaka (for mariage. Venus is in the star of Jupiter lord of 7th posited in 2nd.. "but sir as per my sw (jh hora) venus is in mars star mercry sub !!pls verify thisregardsVGR--- On Sat, 1/8/09, kadavasal ramani <kadavasalramani > wrote: kadavasal ramani <kadavasalramani >Re: How to judge marriage? Date: Saturday, 1 August, 2009, 5:22 PM Dear Dhananjayji, I quite appreciate your keen interest in knowing the nuance of astrology. If you study deeply, K.P.system, you would be knowing whether the CSL indicates 2 or 7 or 11 for marriage in a chart. Any planet, which has no other planet in its stars is called a self strength planet or planet with positional status. In that case, the planet with such strength is full significator for the cusps to which it relates and the planets to which it is sub lord. Here in this chart, Rahu gets self strength with no planet its stars. Such self strenggth planet Rahu is cuspal sub lords for 2nd, 7th houses. As such Rahu is strong significator fopr 2nd and 7th houses. Hence Rahu is capable for giving marriage. Rahu's placementin 3rd is a supportive house for marriage and it is not negative. 7th lord is Jupiter in 2nd is good for marriage. 11th cuspal sub lord is Venus, who is called kalathra karaka (for mariage. Venus is in the star of Jupiter lord of 7th posited in 2nd.. Venus, the 11th CSL is a strong significator of 7th. Rahu 2nd and 7th CSL is in the sub of Saturn in the same Rasi where Rahu is there and both are in the star of Venus. Thus Rahu 2nd and 7th CS lord signifies kalathra KAraka Venus, a significator of 7th. Rahu has thus obtained a good combination for giving marriage. On the date of marriage, the native was running Rahu Dasa (found quite favourable as above) and Bhukthi and Anthara lord is Venus, significator of 7th. Thus DBA agrees. Hope this clears your doubt. Sincy. yours, K.S.V.Ramani. .. - Dhananjaya Kekuda @gro ups.com Saturday, August 01, 2009 1:59 PM How to judge marriage? Dear all,If none of the s/l of planets are related to 2,7,11 how to judge the marriage timing. Below is the chart of a girl, no planet's s/l is related to 2,7 or 11. In this case s/l doesn't speak? D.O.B. - 24 March 1979T.O.B. - 12.OO P.M. P.O.B. - PuneDate of marriage - 1st December 2002. Please comment on this case. with regardsDhananjay See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 Dear Dhanajay, I have already gone through the nice analysis of Sri Ramaniji. Thanks. Dr. Rath Dhananjaya Kekuda <dhaya_pdr Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2009 8:36:53 AMRe: How to judge marriage? Dear Rath ji,It was 12 p.m. meaning 12 noon. Ramani ji already has given a wonderful analysis clearing my doubt. Thanks you for your response. with regardsDhananjay--- On Sat, 8/1/09, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote: Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: How to judge marriage?@gro ups.comSaturday, August 1, 2009, 7:57 AM Dear Dhananjaya, Is the birth time 12 Noon or 12 Midnight. If it is midnight is it 23rd/24th night or 24th/25th. I think one has to give some importance to 1, 5 and 8 of course in rare cases. They are 2, 7 and 11 for spouse. Dr. Rath Dhananjaya Kekuda <dhaya_pdr >@gro ups.comSaturday, August 1, 2009 1:59:54 PM How to judge marriage? Dear all,If none of the s/l of planets are related to 2,7,11 how to judge the marriage timing. Below is the chart of a girl, no planet's s/l is related to 2,7 or 11. In this case s/l doesn't speak? D.O.B. - 24 March 1979T.O.B. - 12.OO P.M. P.O.B. - PuneDate of marriage - 1st December 2002. Please comment on this case. with regardsDhananjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 Dear Lajmiji, Yes, a day is considered from sun-rise to sun-rise. Unfortunately "12 PM" some times confuses me.It becomes more clear if one writes Noon or Midnight. Thamk you for your message. With regards. Dr. Rath Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2009 12:48:12 PMRe: How to judge marriage? Dear Mr.Rath, As per K.P., the day is taken from sunrise to sunrise ? Kindly reconcile... Yogesh Lajmi. Luther Rath <rathluther >@gro ups.comSaturday, August 1, 2009 8:27:01 PMRe: How to judge marriage? Dear Dhananjaya, Is the birth time 12 Noon or 12 Midnight. If it is midnight is it 23rd/24th night or 24th/25th. I think one has to give some importance to 1, 5 and 8 of course in rare cases. They are 2, 7 and 11 for spouse. Dr. Rath Dhananjaya Kekuda <dhaya_pdr >@gro ups.comSaturday, August 1, 2009 1:59:54 PM How to judge marriage? Dear all,If none of the s/l of planets are related to 2,7,11 how to judge the marriage timing. Below is the chart of a girl, no planet's s/l is related to 2,7 or 11. In this case s/l doesn't speak? D.O.B. - 24 March 1979T.O.B. - 12.OO P.M. P.O.B. - PuneDate of marriage - 1st December 2002. Please comment on this case. with regardsDhananjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 Adithji Pranam,Sir i agree with you and at the same time i had a doubt here, If nodes are stronger than the planets then kethu who is in jupiter star l/o 7 in 2. and closely conjoined with mars, (stronger than the aspect of mars on rahu) l/o 11 is also strong. then why the native doesnt married in kethu bhukthi, kethu is stronger for 7,11 also as he rules stars on that cusps with no planets in its stars !!!!Pls clarify me..Peace and Prosperity to All !!VGR--- On Sun, 2/8/09, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath wrote:adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinathRe: How to judge marriage? Date: Sunday, 2 August, 2009, 12:39 PM Dear Ramani ji,Nice explanation!All the points seem to be perfect to my knowledge. I also like to add the following to your points.Rahu is aspected by Mars (Lord of 11 and 6 in the star of Jupiter 7,2 ) and Venus (lord of 5 and 12 in the star of Mars signfying 11,6,7,2). Though these 11,5,2,7 are signfying the marriage, the 6,12 are capable of giving some disturbances in the happy marital life. As ever I say, Nodes are like "Multi Faced weapons". which can act at any angle or directions which we have to look into very carefully the possibilities.With RegardsAdithwww.thebestastro. com On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 5:22 PM, kadavasal ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: Dear Dhananjayji, I quite appreciate your keen interest in knowing the nuance of astrology. If you study deeply, K.P.system, you would be knowing whether the CSL indicates 2 or 7 or 11 for marriage in a chart. Any planet, which has no other planet in its stars is called a self strength planet or planet with positional status. In that case, the planet with such strength is full significator for the cusps to which it relates and the planets to which it is sub lord. Here in this chart, Rahu gets self strength with no planet its stars. Such self strenggth planet Rahu is cuspal sub lords for 2nd, 7th houses. As such Rahu is strong significator fopr 2nd and 7th houses. Hence Rahu is capable for giving marriage. Rahu's placementin 3rd is a supportive house for marriage and it is not negative. 7th lord is Jupiter in 2nd is good for marriage. 11th cuspal sub lord is Venus, who is called kalathra karaka (for mariage. Venus is in the star of Jupiter lord of 7th posited in 2nd.. Venus, the 11th CSL is a strong significator of 7th. Rahu 2nd and 7th CSL is in the sub of Saturn in the same Rasi where Rahu is there and both are in the star of Venus. Thus Rahu 2nd and 7th CS lord signifies kalathra KAraka Venus, a significator of 7th. Rahu has thus obtained a good combination for giving marriage. On the date of marriage, the native was running Rahu Dasa (found quite favourable as above) and Bhukthi and Anthara lord is Venus, significator of 7th. Thus DBA agrees. Hope this clears your doubt. Sincy. yours, K.S.V.Ramani. .. - Dhananjaya Kekuda @gro ups.com Saturday, August 01, 2009 1:59 PM How to judge marriage? Dear all,If none of the s/l of planets are related to 2,7,11 how to judge the marriage timing. Below is the chart of a girl, no planet's s/l is related to 2,7 or 11. In this case s/l doesn't speak? D.O.B. - 24 March 1979T.O.B. - 12.OO P.M. P.O.B. - PuneDate of marriage - 1st December 2002. Please comment on this case. with regardsDhananjay Looking for local information? Find it on Local Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 Dear Friends, 1. In KP the concerned cusp indicates whether a matter is promised or not. The relevant significators point the time of event. (KP Reader V p 224 (Old Edition p 211) 2. (For Female,24/3/1979,12:00PM,Pune,18N32,73E52,KPNA 23-28-37,Asc Ge 7-18-59,KPAstro 3.1) the 7CSL is Ra+ in 3 and no planet in its star. Ra is the CSL of 2,7 (for which it is a strong significator as already mentioned by Ramani ji). Ra is conj Sa in 3 l/o 8,9,10 and aspected by Ma in 9 l/o 6,11 and Ve in 9 l/o 5,12. Ra's signlord Su is in 10 l/o 4. Ra is in star of Ve in 9 l/o 5,12 and sub of Sa in 3, l/o 8,9,10. Thus 7CSL Ra signifies 11 by conj Ma's lordship and 2,7 by sublordship without having any planet in its star. So marriage is promised. 4. Running DBAS on 1/12/2002 is Ra-Ve-Ve-Ve. Ra signifies 11,2,7 as discussed above. Ve in 9 l/o 5,12 is in the star of Ma in 9 l/o 6,11 and sub of Me in 10 l/o 1. Thus Ve signifies 11 at star level and is karaka of marriage but Ve alone without signification of 2,7,11 cannot give marriage. Hence marriage is justified. Regards, tw , " kadavasal ramani " <kadavasalramani wrote: > > > Dear Pavanji, > > Thanks for pointing out the sublord of Venus is Mercury instead of Moon as I incorrectly stated. But any how the result will not > be changed, as Mercury S/L iof Venusa too is very much connected to Saturn, which has given the female native husband with much age difference. Hope this satisfies you. > > Yours truly, > > K.S.V.Ramani > > > - > Dear vgr pavan > > Sunday, August 02, 2009 12:24 PM > Re: How to judge marriage? > > > Ramaniji pranam, > > " 11th cuspal sub lord is Venus, who is called kalathra karaka (for mariage. > Venus is in the star of Jupiter lord of 7th posited in 2nd.. " > > but sir as per my sw (jh hora) venus is in mars star mercry sub !! > > pls verify this > > > regards > > VGR > --- On Sat, 1/8/09, kadavasal ramani <kadavasalramani wrote: > > > kadavasal ramani <kadavasalramani > Re: How to judge marriage? > > Saturday, 1 August, 2009, 5:22 PM > > > > > Dear Dhananjayji, > > I quite appreciate your keen interest in knowing the nuance of astrology. If you study deeply, K.P.system, you would be knowing > whether the CSL indicates 2 or 7 or 11 for marriage in a chart. Any planet, which has no other planet in its stars is called a self strength planet or planet with positional status. In that case, the planet with such strength is full significator for the cusps to which it relates and the planets to which it is sub lord. Here in this chart, Rahu gets self strength with no planet its stars. Such self strenggth planet Rahu is cuspal sub lords for 2nd, 7th houses. As such Rahu is strong significator fopr 2nd and 7th houses. Hence Rahu is capable for giving marriage. Rahu's placementin 3rd is a supportive house for marriage and it is not negative. > 7th lord is Jupiter in 2nd is good for marriage. 11th cuspal sub lord is Venus, who is called kalathra karaka (for mariage. > Venus is in the star of Jupiter lord of 7th posited in 2nd.. Venus, the 11th CSL is a strong significator of 7th. Rahu 2nd and 7th CSL is in the sub of Saturn in the same Rasi where Rahu is there and both are in the star of Venus. Thus Rahu 2nd and 7th CS lord signifies kalathra KAraka Venus, a significator of 7th. Rahu has thus obtained a good combination for giving marriage. > On the date of marriage, the native was running Rahu Dasa (found quite favourable as above) and Bhukthi and Anthara lord is Venus, significator of 7th. Thus DBA agrees. Hope this clears your doubt. > > Sincy. yours, > > K.S.V.Ramani. > . > > - > Dhananjaya Kekuda > @gro ups.com > Saturday, August 01, 2009 1:59 PM > How to judge marriage? > > > > > > Dear all, > > If none of the s/l of planets are related to 2,7,11 how to judge the marriage timing. Below is the chart of a girl, no planet's s/l is related to 2,7 or 11. In this case s/l doesn't speak? > > D.O.B. - 24 March 1979 > T.O.B. - 12.OO P.M. > P.O.B. - Pune > > Date of marriage - 1st December 2002. > > Please comment on this case. > > with regards > Dhananjay > > See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 Dear Lajmi ji, " The day is taken from sunrise to sunrise " ,It means if we look for RP in midnight after 12,than we should take day lord of previous sunrise ? In the thread of " Delivery when " i have taken day lord as per " Zero " time system,means after 12 in midnight date of day changed so day also changed,Is it wrong ? Second question is ,Can we look for RP after sunset ? because in traditional system it says for any " Prashana " cast the chart when sun is in the sky,after sunset never cast the question chart for divine reason. Please guide me on above matter. Thanks, M.S.Bohra , Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi wrote: > > Dear Mr.Rath, > As per K.P., the day is taken from sunrise to sunrise ? > Kindly reconcile... > Yogesh Lajmi. > > > > > ________________________________ > Luther Rath <rathluther > > Saturday, August 1, 2009 8:27:01 PM > Re: How to judge marriage? > > > Dear Dhananjaya, > Is the birth time 12 Noon or 12 Midnight. If it is midnight is it 23rd/24th night or 24th/25th. I think one has to give some importance to 1, 5 and 8 of course in rare cases. They are 2, 7 and 11 for spouse. > Dr. Rath > > > > > ________________________________ > Dhananjaya Kekuda <dhaya_pdr > > @gro ups.com > Saturday, August 1, 2009 1:59:54 PM > How to judge marriage? > > > > > Dear all, > > If none of the s/l of planets are related to 2,7,11 how to judge the marriage timing. Below is the chart of a girl, no planet's s/l is related to 2,7 or 11. In this case s/l doesn't speak? > > D.O.B. - 24 March 1979 > T.O.B. - 12.OO P.M. > P.O.B. - Pune > > Date of marriage - 1st December 2002. > > Please comment on this case. > > with regards > Dhananjay > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 Ramani ji Pranam,I actually want to tell you that venus star lord is not jupiter as said by you in your analysis. "11th cuspal sub lord is Venus, who is called kalathra karaka (for mariage. Venus is in the star of Jupiter lord of 7th posited in 2nd.. Venus, the 11th CSL is a strong significator of 7th. "and i also keen to know from you why this native doesnt marry in kethu bhukthi who is in jupiter star l/o 7 in 2 and conjoined with mars l/o 11.Pls clarify me sir thanksPeace and Prosperity to All !!VGR--- On Sun, 2/8/09, kadavasal ramani <kadavasalramani wrote:kadavasal ramani <kadavasalramaniRe: How to judge marriage? Date: Sunday, 2 August, 2009, 5:07 PM Dear Pavanji, Thanks for pointing out the sublord of Venus is Mercury instead of Moon as I incorrectly stated. But any how the result will not be changed, as Mercury S/L iof Venusa too is very much connected to Saturn, which has given the female native husband with much age difference. Hope this satisfies you. Yours truly, K.S.V.Ramani - Dear vgr pavan @gro ups.com Sunday, August 02, 2009 12:24 PM Re: How to judge marriage? Ramaniji pranam, "11th cuspal sub lord is Venus, who is called kalathra karaka (for mariage. Venus is in the star of Jupiter lord of 7th posited in 2nd.. "but sir as per my sw (jh hora) venus is in mars star mercry sub !!pls verify thisregardsVGR--- On Sat, 1/8/09, kadavasal ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: kadavasal ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Re: How to judge marriage?@gro ups.comSaturday, 1 August, 2009, 5:22 PM Dear Dhananjayji, I quite appreciate your keen interest in knowing the nuance of astrology. If you study deeply, K.P.system, you would be knowing whether the CSL indicates 2 or 7 or 11 for marriage in a chart. Any planet, which has no other planet in its stars is called a self strength planet or planet with positional status. In that case, the planet with such strength is full significator for the cusps to which it relates and the planets to which it is sub lord. Here in this chart, Rahu gets self strength with no planet its stars. Such self strenggth planet Rahu is cuspal sub lords for 2nd, 7th houses. As such Rahu is strong significator fopr 2nd and 7th houses. Hence Rahu is capable for giving marriage. Rahu's placementin 3rd is a supportive house for marriage and it is not negative. 7th lord is Jupiter in 2nd is good for marriage. 11th cuspal sub lord is Venus, who is called kalathra karaka (for mariage. Venus is in the star of Jupiter lord of 7th posited in 2nd.. Venus, the 11th CSL is a strong significator of 7th. Rahu 2nd and 7th CSL is in the sub of Saturn in the same Rasi where Rahu is there and both are in the star of Venus. Thus Rahu 2nd and 7th CS lord signifies kalathra KAraka Venus, a significator of 7th. Rahu has thus obtained a good combination for giving marriage. On the date of marriage, the native was running Rahu Dasa (found quite favourable as above) and Bhukthi and Anthara lord is Venus, significator of 7th. Thus DBA agrees. Hope this clears your doubt. Sincy. yours, K.S.V.Ramani. .. - Dhananjaya Kekuda @gro ups.com Saturday, August 01, 2009 1:59 PM How to judge marriage? Dear all,If none of the s/l of planets are related to 2,7,11 how to judge the marriage timing. Below is the chart of a girl, no planet's s/l is related to 2,7 or 11. In this case s/l doesn't speak? D.O.B. - 24 March 1979T.O.B. - 12.OO P.M. P.O.B. - PuneDate of marriage - 1st December 2002. Please comment on this case. with regardsDhananjay See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 Dear Mr.Bohra, You're right in your thinking,theoretically it is correct...but whether all the different SWs on the market incorporate it or not needs to be checked...as far as the SW I use(Mr.Raichur's),I have a sepatate SW for RPs...which follows the calendar date and daylord... In any case the Day-lord has the least importance among RPs... With best wishes, Yogesh Lajmi GOOD LUCK ! msbohra62 <msbohra62 Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 2:58:44 AM Re: How to judge marriage? Dear Lajmi ji,"The day is taken from sunrise to sunrise",It means if we look for RP in midnight after 12,than we should take day lord of previous sunrise ?In the thread of "Delivery when" i have taken day lord as per "Zero" time system,means after 12 in midnight date of day changed so day also changed,Is it wrong ?Second question is ,Can we look for RP after sunset ? because in traditional system it says for any "Prashana" cast the chart when sun is in the sky,after sunset never cast the question chart for divine reason.Please guide me on above matter.Thanks,M.S.Bohra@gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Mr.Rath,> As per K.P., the day is taken from sunrise to sunrise ?> Kindly reconcile...> Yogesh Lajmi.> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...>> @gro ups.com> Saturday, August 1, 2009 8:27:01 PM> Re: How to judge marriage?> > > Dear Dhananjaya,> Is the birth time 12 Noon or 12 Midnight. If it is midnight is it 23rd/24th night or 24th/25th. I think one has to give some importance to 1, 5 and 8 of course in rare cases. They are 2, 7 and 11 for spouse.> Dr. Rath> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Dhananjaya Kekuda <dhaya_pdr >> @gro ups.com> Saturday, August 1, 2009 1:59:54 PM> How to judge marriage?> > > > > Dear all,> > If none of the s/l of planets are related to 2,7,11 how to judge the marriage timing. Below is the chart of a girl, no planet's s/l is related to 2,7 or 11. In this case s/l doesn't speak? > > D.O..B. - 24 March 1979> T.O.B. - 12.OO P.M. > P.O.B. - Pune> > Date of marriage - 1st December 2002. > > Please comment on this case. > > with regards> Dhananjay> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 sir Pranam,why cant it was during kethu sub period, whose is with mars and mercury in the same sign. And also occupying jupiter star l/o 7 in 2. waiting for your comment thanksPeace and Prosperity to All !!VGR--- On Mon, 3/8/09, tw853 <tw853 wrote:tw853 <tw853 Re: How to judge marriage? Date: Monday, 3 August, 2009, 1:35 AM Dear Friends, 1. In KP the concerned cusp indicates whether a matter is promised or not. The relevant significators point the time of event. (KP Reader V p 224 (Old Edition p 211) 2. (For Female,24/3/ 1979,12:00PM, Pune,18N32, 73E52,KPNA 23-28-37,Asc Ge 7-18-59,KPAstro 3.1) the 7CSL is Ra+ in 3 and no planet in its star. Ra is the CSL of 2,7 (for which it is a strong significator as already mentioned by Ramani ji). Ra is conj Sa in 3 l/o 8,9,10 and aspected by Ma in 9 l/o 6,11 and Ve in 9 l/o 5,12. Ra's signlord Su is in 10 l/o 4. Ra is in star of Ve in 9 l/o 5,12 and sub of Sa in 3, l/o 8,9,10. Thus 7CSL Ra signifies 11 by conj Ma's lordship and 2,7 by sublordship without having any planet in its star. So marriage is promised. 4. Running DBAS on 1/12/2002 is Ra-Ve-Ve-Ve. Ra signifies 11,2,7 as discussed above. Ve in 9 l/o 5,12 is in the star of Ma in 9 l/o 6,11 and sub of Me in 10 l/o 1. Thus Ve signifies 11 at star level and is karaka of marriage but Ve alone without signification of 2,7,11 cannot give marriage. Hence marriage is justified. Regards, tw @gro ups.com, "kadavasal ramani" <kadavasalramani@ ...> wrote: > > > Dear Pavanji, > > Thanks for pointing out the sublord of Venus is Mercury instead of Moon as I incorrectly stated. But any how the result will not > be changed, as Mercury S/L iof Venusa too is very much connected to Saturn, which has given the female native husband with much age difference. Hope this satisfies you. > > Yours truly, > > K.S.V.Ramani > > > - > Dear vgr pavan > @gro ups.com > Sunday, August 02, 2009 12:24 PM > Re: How to judge marriage? > > > Ramaniji pranam, > > "11th cuspal sub lord is Venus, who is called kalathra karaka (for mariage. > Venus is in the star of Jupiter lord of 7th posited in 2nd.. " > > but sir as per my sw (jh hora) venus is in mars star mercry sub !! > > pls verify this > > > regards > > VGR > --- On Sat, 1/8/09, kadavasal ramani <kadavasalramani@ ...> wrote: > > > kadavasal ramani <kadavasalramani@ ...> > Re: How to judge marriage? > @gro ups.com > Saturday, 1 August, 2009, 5:22 PM > > > > > Dear Dhananjayji, > > I quite appreciate your keen interest in knowing the nuance of astrology. If you study deeply, K.P.system, you would be knowing > whether the CSL indicates 2 or 7 or 11 for marriage in a chart. Any planet, which has no other planet in its stars is called a self strength planet or planet with positional status. In that case, the planet with such strength is full significator for the cusps to which it relates and the planets to which it is sub lord. Here in this chart, Rahu gets self strength with no planet its stars. Such self strenggth planet Rahu is cuspal sub lords for 2nd, 7th houses. As such Rahu is strong significator fopr 2nd and 7th houses. Hence Rahu is capable for giving marriage. Rahu's placementin 3rd is a supportive house for marriage and it is not negative. > 7th lord is Jupiter in 2nd is good for marriage. 11th cuspal sub lord is Venus, who is called kalathra karaka (for mariage. > Venus is in the star of Jupiter lord of 7th posited in 2nd.. Venus, the 11th CSL is a strong significator of 7th. Rahu 2nd and 7th CSL is in the sub of Saturn in the same Rasi where Rahu is there and both are in the star of Venus. Thus Rahu 2nd and 7th CS lord signifies kalathra KAraka Venus, a significator of 7th. Rahu has thus obtained a good combination for giving marriage. > On the date of marriage, the native was running Rahu Dasa (found quite favourable as above) and Bhukthi and Anthara lord is Venus, significator of 7th. Thus DBA agrees. Hope this clears your doubt. > > Sincy. yours, > > K.S.V.Ramani. > . > > - > Dhananjaya Kekuda > @gro ups.com > Saturday, August 01, 2009 1:59 PM > How to judge marriage? > > > > > > Dear all, > > If none of the s/l of planets are related to 2,7,11 how to judge the marriage timing. Below is the chart of a girl, no planet's s/l is related to 2,7 or 11. In this case s/l doesn't speak? > > D.O.B. - 24 March 1979 > T.O.B. - 12.OO P.M. > P.O.B. - Pune > > Date of marriage - 1st December 2002. > > Please comment on this case. > > with regards > Dhananjay > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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