Guest guest Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 HELLO ALL MEMBERS, AS PER KP RULE- WHEN A PLANET IS IN ITS OWN STR, THEN ITS SUB LORD WILL BE TREATED AS ITS WORKING STR LORD FOR EXAMPLE: PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD Ke Ke JU SA WHICH IS CORRECT : A PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD Ke Ke/JU* JU SA EVEN THOUGH,JU HAS BECOME THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD OF KE, EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL REMAIN JU ITSELF B PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD Ke Ke/JU* JU/SA SA AS JU HAS BECOMES THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD, EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL BE JU ITSELF OR SA WILL BECOME THE EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE Regards, CA ABHISHEK SHRIVASTAV MOB.NO.98272-35856 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 Dear Abhiji, Can you please give reference of the rule you have mentioned. I am not able to recollect where it is. I want to go through the example. It makes lots of difference to me. Regards. Dr. Rath. CA ABHI <abhica2004 Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2009 2:40:10 PM CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD HELLO ALL MEMBERS, AS PER KP RULE- WHEN A PLANET IS IN ITS OWN STR, THEN ITS SUB LORD WILL BE TREATED AS ITS WORKING STR LORD FOR EXAMPLE: PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD Ke Ke JU SA WHICH IS CORRECT : A PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD Ke Ke/JU* JU SA EVEN THOUGH,JU HAS BECOME THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD OF KE, EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL REMAIN JU ITSELF B PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD Ke Ke/JU* JU/SA SA AS JU HAS BECOMES THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD, EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL BE JU ITSELF OR SA WILL BECOME THE EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE Regards, CA ABHISHEK SHRIVASTAV MOB.NO.98272- 35856 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 DEAR RATHJI, SAME CAN BE FOUND IN SHAHASANEJI’S BOOKS. Regards, CA ABHISHEK SHRIVASTAV On Behalf Of Luther Rath Sunday, August 02, 2009 8:04 PM Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD Dear Abhiji, Can you please give reference of the rule you have mentioned. I am not able to recollect where it is. I want to go through the example. It makes lots of difference to me. Regards. Dr. Rath. CA ABHI <abhica2004 Sunday, August 2, 2009 2:40:10 PM CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD HELLO ALL MEMBERS, AS PER KP RULE- WHEN A PLANET IS IN ITS OWN STR, THEN ITS SUB LORD WILL BE TREATED AS ITS WORKING STR LORD FOR EXAMPLE: PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD Ke Ke JU SA WHICH IS CORRECT : A PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD Ke Ke/JU* JU SA EVEN THOUGH,JU HAS BECOME THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD OF KE, EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL REMAIN JU ITSELF B PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD Ke Ke/JU* JU/SA SA AS JU HAS BECOMES THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD, EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL BE JU ITSELF OR SA WILL BECOME THE EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE Regards, CA ABHISHEK SHRIVASTAV MOB.NO.98272- 35856 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 Dear Friends, Such rule is not in the KP Readers and the Nodes rules are specifically set in KP, not like mentioned here. Regards, tw , Luther Rath <rathluther wrote: > > Dear Abhiji, > Can you please give reference of the rule you have mentioned. I am not able to recollect where it is. I want to go through the example. It makes lots of difference to me. > Regards. > Dr. Rath. > > > > > ________________________________ > CA ABHI <abhica2004 > > Sunday, August 2, 2009 2:40:10 PM > CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD > > > > HELLO ALL MEMBERS, > AS PER KP RULE- > WHEN A PLANET IS IN ITS OWN STR, THEN ITS SUB LORD WILL BE TREATED AS ITS WORKING STR LORD > FOR EXAMPLE: > > PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > Ke Ke JU SA > WHICH IS CORRECT : > A PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > Ke Ke/JU* JU SA > EVEN THOUGH,JU HAS BECOME THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD OF KE, > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL REMAIN JU ITSELF > B PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > Ke Ke/JU* JU/SA SA > AS JU HAS BECOMES THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD, > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL BE JU ITSELF OR > SA WILL BECOME THE EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE > > Regards, > > > CA ABHISHEK SHRIVASTAV > MOB.NO.98272- 35856 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 Dear Friends, 1. This rule is discovered by Late Suresh Shahasane ji and comment had been given before in the Message below. /message/16664 2. In honour of Late Suresh Shahasane ji, some tributes by his disciples will be published in the KPE-zine August 2009, which will be posted very soon. Regards, tw , " tw853 " <tw853 wrote: > > Dear Friends, > Such rule is not in the KP Readers and the Nodes rules are specifically set in KP, not like mentioned here. > Regards, > tw > > > , Luther Rath <rathluther@> wrote: > > > > Dear Abhiji, > > Can you please give reference of the rule you have mentioned. I am not able to recollect where it is. I want to go through the example. It makes lots of difference to me. > > Regards. > > Dr. Rath. > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > CA ABHI <abhica2004@> > > > > Sunday, August 2, 2009 2:40:10 PM > > CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD > > > > > > > > HELLO ALL MEMBERS, > > AS PER KP RULE- > > WHEN A PLANET IS IN ITS OWN STR, THEN ITS SUB LORD WILL BE TREATED AS ITS WORKING STR LORD > > FOR EXAMPLE: > > > > PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > Ke Ke JU SA > > WHICH IS CORRECT : > > A PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > Ke Ke/JU* JU SA > > EVEN THOUGH,JU HAS BECOME THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD OF KE, > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL REMAIN JU ITSELF > > B PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > Ke Ke/JU* JU/SA SA > > AS JU HAS BECOMES THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD, > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL BE JU ITSELF OR > > SA WILL BECOME THE EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE > > > > Regards, > > > > > > CA ABHISHEK SHRIVASTAV > > MOB.NO.98272- 35856 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 Dear Tw ji, and all interested, Please refer to this message and the whole thread, and this rule has been learnt personally by me from Shri Sahasneji himself, and is applicable to my own chart . /message/8845 I have seen this rule perfectly working in my case since last 2 Years. regards/Bhaskar. , "tw853" <tw853 wrote:>> Dear Friends,> 1. This rule is discovered by Late Suresh Shahasane ji and comment had been given before in the Message below.> /message/16664> 2. In honour of Late Suresh Shahasane ji, some tributes by his disciples will be published in the KPE-zine August 2009, which will be posted very soon.> Regards,> tw> > > > , "tw853" tw853@ wrote:> >> > Dear Friends,> > Such rule is not in the KP Readers and the Nodes rules are specifically set in KP, not like mentioned here.> > Regards,> > tw > > > > > > , Luther Rath <rathluther@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Abhiji,> > > Can you please give reference of the rule you have mentioned. I am not able to recollect where it is. I want to go through the example. It makes lots of difference to me.> > > Regards.> > > Dr. Rath.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > > CA ABHI <abhica2004@>> > > > > > Sunday, August 2, 2009 2:40:10 PM> > > CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD> > > > > > > > > > > > HELLO ALL MEMBERS,> > > AS PER KP RULE-> > > WHEN A PLANET IS IN ITS OWN STR, THEN ITS SUB LORD WILL BE TREATED AS ITS WORKING STR LORD> > > FOR EXAMPLE:> > > > > > PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > Ke Ke JU SA > > > WHICH IS CORRECT : > > > A PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU SA > > > EVEN THOUGH,JU HAS BECOME THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD OF KE, > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL REMAIN JU ITSELF > > > B PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU/SA SA > > > AS JU HAS BECOMES THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD, > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL BE JU ITSELF OR > > > SA WILL BECOME THE EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > CA ABHISHEK SHRIVASTAV> > > MOB.NO.98272- 35856> > > > > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 Dear Friends, Once I had gone to visit Shri Sahasneji with my own chart before the Rahu Mahadasha was to dawn in my Life. That was probably in 2006. I noticed that I had prepared my Chart from a Sofwtare which was very famous, but had a doubt in the SubLord position calculated thus. On my pointing this so, Mr.Sahashne took the trouble of taking out the Ephemeris and manually calculated the Degrees and the SubSubLord too. Now the result - Rahu in my Chart in Lagna in Leo, at 6.41.32 degrees in star of Ketu and in Sub of Rahu itself. He was very happy to see the SubSub Lord as Mercury. He mentioned that now you have hit the jackpot (Not exactly those words). I said why ? He answered because the SubSubLord is Mercury, and therefore rahu will give the results of Mercury, because you have to move one step further whenever you find the same planet as StarLord or SubLord. Apart from this, no planet in Mychart tenants any of the Stars of Mercury, so Rahu becomes the first class significator for Mercury in my chart, who owns both the 2nd and the 11th house in my Chart. Well frankly I did not believe him much at that time because I thought he was telling me this just to make me happy. (Later on in Lessons while Learning from him, he did point out to the students that whenever you find any planet in its own star, you must treat the SubLord as the StarLord). When Rahu Mahadasha entered my Life on January 2007, things changed for me dramatically. Most of my old debts were cleared up immediately on dawn of Rahu Mahadasha. I was aired on the National Channel, I got a Contract from one of the Big companies for monthly assignments for which I was paid a respectable amount. All this happenned by itself without me approaching anybody. My Life has changed much after the Rahu Mahadasha. I am comfortable today monetary wise if not rich. I have enough work and opportunities. The going is smooth with Lords Grace and Gurujis blessings. For those interested my Birth details - 28th June 1961. 10.15am Eluru 16.45N 81.09E (Near Vijaywada). This principle is also mentioned partly in Chandrakant Bhatt's Book - Nakshatra Chintamani. best wishes, Bhaskar. , "tw853" <tw853 wrote:>> Dear Friends,> 1. This rule is discovered by Late Suresh Shahasane ji and comment had been given before in the Message below.> /message/16664> 2. In honour of Late Suresh Shahasane ji, some tributes by his disciples will be published in the KPE-zine August 2009, which will be posted very soon.> Regards,> tw> > > > , "tw853" tw853@ wrote:> >> > Dear Friends,> > Such rule is not in the KP Readers and the Nodes rules are specifically set in KP, not like mentioned here.> > Regards,> > tw > > > > > > , Luther Rath <rathluther@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Abhiji,> > > Can you please give reference of the rule you have mentioned. I am not able to recollect where it is. I want to go through the example. It makes lots of difference to me.> > > Regards.> > > Dr. Rath.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > > CA ABHI <abhica2004@>> > > > > > Sunday, August 2, 2009 2:40:10 PM> > > CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD> > > > > > > > > > > > HELLO ALL MEMBERS,> > > AS PER KP RULE-> > > WHEN A PLANET IS IN ITS OWN STR, THEN ITS SUB LORD WILL BE TREATED AS ITS WORKING STR LORD> > > FOR EXAMPLE:> > > > > > PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > Ke Ke JU SA > > > WHICH IS CORRECT : > > > A PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU SA > > > EVEN THOUGH,JU HAS BECOME THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD OF KE, > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL REMAIN JU ITSELF > > > B PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU/SA SA > > > AS JU HAS BECOMES THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD, > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL BE JU ITSELF OR > > > SA WILL BECOME THE EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > CA ABHISHEK SHRIVASTAV> > > MOB.NO.98272- 35856> > > > > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Dear Friends, 1. Male,28/Jun/1961,10:15AM,Eluru,16N44,81E09,KPNA 23:13:45,Asc Le 16:04:58, Ra Le 06:40:37, Ketu Dasa bal 2Y:6M:19D, KPAstro 3.1. 2. Current running Dasa lord Ra(12) conj Ma(12,4-9), Sgl Su(10,1); in star Ke(6) aspected by Ma(12,4-9), Sgl Sa+(5,6-7), no planet in Sa's star and Sa is CSL of 6,10; in sub Ra. 3. Previous Dasa lord Ju+(5,5-8), no planet in Ju's star and Ju is CSL of 2,8,12; in star Mo(4,12); sub Rahu. 4. A turn round from loosing 5,8,12 to gaining 6,10 with perhaps 12 related job and clearing debt can be found as per KP. 5. In KP if a planet is in own star or sub, that planet is considered to be strong and does not need to go further. Regards, tw , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Friends, > > Once I had gone to visit Shri Sahasneji with my own chart before the > Rahu Mahadasha was to dawn in my Life. That was probably in 2006. I > noticed that I had prepared my Chart from a Sofwtare which was very > famous, but had a doubt in the SubLord position calculated thus. On my > pointing this so, Mr.Sahashne took the trouble of taking out the > Ephemeris and manually calculated the Degrees and the SubSubLord too. > > Now the result - > > Rahu in my Chart in Lagna in Leo, at 6.41.32 degrees in star of Ketu and > in Sub of Rahu itself. He was very happy to see the SubSub Lord as > Mercury. He mentioned that now you have hit the jackpot (Not exactly > those words). I said why ? He answered because the SubSubLord is > Mercury, and therefore rahu will give the results of Mercury, because > you have to move one step further whenever you find the same planet as > StarLord or SubLord. Apart from this, no planet in Mychart tenants any > of the Stars of Mercury, so Rahu becomes the first class significator > for Mercury in my chart, who owns both the 2nd and the 11th house in my > Chart. Well frankly I did not believe him much at that time because I > thought he was telling me this just to make me happy. (Later on in > Lessons while Learning from him, he did point out to the students that > whenever you find any planet in its own star, you must treat the > SubLord as the StarLord). > > When Rahu Mahadasha entered my Life on January 2007, things changed for > me dramatically. Most of my old debts were cleared up immediately on > dawn of Rahu Mahadasha. I was aired on the National Channel, I got a > Contract from one of the Big companies for monthly assignments for which > I was paid a respectable amount. All this happenned by itself without me > approaching anybody. My Life has changed much after the Rahu Mahadasha. > I am comfortable today monetary wise if not rich. I have enough work and > opportunities. The going is smooth with Lords Grace and Gurujis > blessings. > > For those interested my Birth details - > > 28th June 1961. 10.15am Eluru 16.45N 81.09E (Near Vijaywada). > > This principle is also mentioned partly in Chandrakant Bhatt's Book - > Nakshatra Chintamani. > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. , " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > 1. This rule is discovered by Late Suresh Shahasane ji and comment had > been given before in the Message below. > > /message/16664 > > 2. In honour of Late Suresh Shahasane ji, some tributes by his > disciples will be published in the KPE-zine August 2009, which will be > posted very soon. > > Regards, > > tw > > > > > > > > , " tw853 " tw853@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > Such rule is not in the KP Readers and the Nodes rules are > specifically set in KP, not like mentioned here. > > > Regards, > > > tw > > > > > > > > > , Luther Rath <rathluther@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Abhiji, > > > > Can you please give reference of the rule you have mentioned. I am > not able to recollect where it is. I want to go through the example. It > makes lots of difference to me. > > > > Regards. > > > > Dr. Rath. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > CA ABHI <abhica2004@> > > > > > > > > Sunday, August 2, 2009 2:40:10 PM > > > > CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HELLO ALL MEMBERS, > > > > AS PER KP RULE- > > > > WHEN A PLANET IS IN ITS OWN STR, THEN ITS SUB LORD WILL BE TREATED > AS ITS WORKING STR LORD > > > > FOR EXAMPLE: > > > > > > > > PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > > Ke Ke JU SA > > > > WHICH IS CORRECT : > > > > A PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU SA > > > > EVEN THOUGH,JU HAS BECOME THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD OF KE, > > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL REMAIN JU ITSELF > > > > B PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU/SA SA > > > > AS JU HAS BECOMES THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD, > > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL BE JU ITSELF OR > > > > SA WILL BECOME THE EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > CA ABHISHEK SHRIVASTAV > > > > MOB.NO.98272- 35856 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Dear Bhaskarji, Can you recollect your life events during Rahu dasa- Rahu Bhukti; Rahu dasa-Mercury bhukti and Rahu dasa-kethu bhukti? And can you tell us which period was best of the three? Dr. Rath Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2009 1:36:23 AM Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD Dear Friends, Once I had gone to visit Shri Sahasneji with my own chart before the Rahu Mahadasha was to dawn in my Life. That was probably in 2006. I noticed that I had prepared my Chart from a Sofwtare which was very famous, but had a doubt in the SubLord position calculated thus. On my pointing this so, Mr.Sahashne took the trouble of taking out the Ephemeris and manually calculated the Degrees and the SubSubLord too. Now the result - Rahu in my Chart in Lagna in Leo, at 6.41.32 degrees in star of Ketu and in Sub of Rahu itself. He was very happy to see the SubSub Lord as Mercury. He mentioned that now you have hit the jackpot (Not exactly those words). I said why ? He answered because the SubSubLord is Mercury, and therefore rahu will give the results of Mercury, because you have to move one step further whenever you find the same planet as StarLord or SubLord. Apart from this, no planet in Mychart tenants any of the Stars of Mercury, so Rahu becomes the first class significator for Mercury in my chart, who owns both the 2nd and the 11th house in my Chart. Well frankly I did not believe him much at that time because I thought he was telling me this just to make me happy. (Later on in Lessons while Learning from him, he did point out to the students that whenever you find any planet in its own star, you must treat the SubLord as the StarLord). When Rahu Mahadasha entered my Life on January 2007, things changed for me dramatically. Most of my old debts were cleared up immediately on dawn of Rahu Mahadasha. I was aired on the National Channel, I got a Contract from one of the Big companies for monthly assignments for which I was paid a respectable amount. All this happenned by itself without me approaching anybody. My Life has changed much after the Rahu Mahadasha. I am comfortable today monetary wise if not rich. I have enough work and opportunities. The going is smooth with Lords Grace and Gurujis blessings. For those interested my Birth details - 28th June 1961. 10.15am Eluru 16.45N 81.09E (Near Vijaywada). This principle is also mentioned partly in Chandrakant Bhatt's Book - Nakshatra Chintamani. best wishes, Bhaskar. @gro ups.com, "tw853" <tw853 wrote:>> Dear Friends,> 1. This rule is discovered by Late Suresh Shahasane ji and comment had been given before in the Message below.> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 16664> 2. In honour of Late Suresh Shahasane ji, some tributes by his disciples will be published in the KPE-zine August 2009, which will be posted very soon.> Regards,> tw> > > > @gro ups.com, "tw853" tw853@ wrote:> >> > Dear Friends,> > Such rule is not in the KP Readers and the Nodes rules are specifically set in KP, not like mentioned here.> > Regards,> > tw > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Abhiji,> > > Can you please give reference of the rule you have mentioned. I am not able to recollect where it is. I want to go through the example. It makes lots of difference to me.> > > Regards.> > > Dr. Rath.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > CA ABHI <abhica2004@>> > > @gro ups.com> > > Sunday, August 2, 2009 2:40:10 PM> > > CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD> > > > > > > > > > > > HELLO ALL MEMBERS,> > > AS PER KP RULE-> > > WHEN A PLANET IS IN ITS OWN STR, THEN ITS SUB LORD WILL BE TREATED AS ITS WORKING STR LORD> > > FOR EXAMPLE:> > > > > > PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > Ke Ke JU SA > > > WHICH IS CORRECT : > > > A PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU SA > > > EVEN THOUGH,JU HAS BECOME THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD OF KE, > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL REMAIN JU ITSELF > > > B PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU/SA SA > > > AS JU HAS BECOMES THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD, > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL BE JU ITSELF OR > > > SA WILL BECOME THE EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > CA ABHISHEK SHRIVASTAV> > > MOB.NO.98272- 35856> > > > > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Dear BhaskerThis is interesting. My mars is in mars star and own sub and Ra sub sub.My mer is in mer sub and mer sub sub. Ra is in ke star ra sub and ra sub subI don't have software to generate sub sub sub. If u have the software would u let me know the effective star lord and sub of mars, ra, mer ? My dob is 5-5-55, Tob is 9-37 pm, pob is delhiRegardsSujataBhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Tuesday, 4 August, 2009 1:36:23 AM Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD Dear Friends, Once I had gone to visit Shri Sahasneji with my own chart before the Rahu Mahadasha was to dawn in my Life. That was probably in 2006. I noticed that I had prepared my Chart from a Sofwtare which was very famous, but had a doubt in the SubLord position calculated thus. On my pointing this so, Mr.Sahashne took the trouble of taking out the Ephemeris and manually calculated the Degrees and the SubSubLord too. Now the result - Rahu in my Chart in Lagna in Leo, at 6.41.32 degrees in star of Ketu and in Sub of Rahu itself. He was very happy to see the SubSub Lord as Mercury. He mentioned that now you have hit the jackpot (Not exactly those words). I said why ? He answered because the SubSubLord is Mercury, and therefore rahu will give the results of Mercury, because you have to move one step further whenever you find the same planet as StarLord or SubLord. Apart from this, no planet in Mychart tenants any of the Stars of Mercury, so Rahu becomes the first class significator for Mercury in my chart, who owns both the 2nd and the 11th house in my Chart. Well frankly I did not believe him much at that time because I thought he was telling me this just to make me happy. (Later on in Lessons while Learning from him, he did point out to the students that whenever you find any planet in its own star, you must treat the SubLord as the StarLord). When Rahu Mahadasha entered my Life on January 2007, things changed for me dramatically. Most of my old debts were cleared up immediately on dawn of Rahu Mahadasha. I was aired on the National Channel, I got a Contract from one of the Big companies for monthly assignments for which I was paid a respectable amount. All this happenned by itself without me approaching anybody. My Life has changed much after the Rahu Mahadasha. I am comfortable today monetary wise if not rich. I have enough work and opportunities. The going is smooth with Lords Grace and Gurujis blessings. For those interested my Birth details - 28th June 1961. 10.15am Eluru 16.45N 81.09E (Near Vijaywada). This principle is also mentioned partly in Chandrakant Bhatt's Book - Nakshatra Chintamani. best wishes, Bhaskar. @gro ups.com, "tw853" <tw853 wrote:>> Dear Friends,> 1. This rule is discovered by Late Suresh Shahasane ji and comment had been given before in the Message below.> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 16664> 2. In honour of Late Suresh Shahasane ji, some tributes by his disciples will be published in the KPE-zine August 2009, which will be posted very soon.> Regards,> tw> > > > @gro ups.com, "tw853" tw853@ wrote:> >> > Dear Friends,> > Such rule is not in the KP Readers and the Nodes rules are specifically set in KP, not like mentioned here.> > Regards,> > tw > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Abhiji,> > > Can you please give reference of the rule you have mentioned. I am not able to recollect where it is. I want to go through the example. It makes lots of difference to me.> > > Regards.> > > Dr. Rath.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > CA ABHI <abhica2004@>> > > @gro ups.com> > > Sunday, August 2, 2009 2:40:10 PM> > > CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD> > > > > > > > > > > > HELLO ALL MEMBERS,> > > AS PER KP RULE-> > > WHEN A PLANET IS IN ITS OWN STR, THEN ITS SUB LORD WILL BE TREATED AS ITS WORKING STR LORD> > > FOR EXAMPLE:> > > > > > PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > Ke Ke JU SA > > > WHICH IS CORRECT : > > > A PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU SA > > > EVEN THOUGH,JU HAS BECOME THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD OF KE, > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL REMAIN JU ITSELF > > > B PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU/SA SA > > > AS JU HAS BECOMES THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD, > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL BE JU ITSELF OR > > > SA WILL BECOME THE EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > CA ABHISHEK SHRIVASTAV> > > MOB.NO.98272- 35856> > > > > >> >> See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Dear Rath ji, I feel that Rahu-Rahu Bhukti was the best one. regards/Bhaskar. , Luther Rath <rathluther wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji, > Can you recollect your life events during Rahu dasa- Rahu Bhukti; Rahu dasa-Mercury bhukti and Rahu dasa-kethu bhukti? And can you tell us which period was best of the three? > Dr. Rath > > > > > ________________________________ > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > > Tuesday, August 4, 2009 1:36:23 AM > Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD > > > Dear Friends, > Once I had gone to visit Shri Sahasneji with my own chart before the Rahu Mahadasha was to dawn in my Life. That was probably in 2006. I noticed that I had prepared my Chart from a Sofwtare which was very famous, but had a doubt in the SubLord position calculated thus. On my pointing this so, Mr.Sahashne took the trouble of taking out the Ephemeris and manually calculated the Degrees and the SubSubLord too. > Now the result - > Rahu in my Chart in Lagna in Leo, at 6.41.32 degrees in star of Ketu and in Sub of Rahu itself. He was very happy to see the SubSub Lord as Mercury. He mentioned that now you have hit the jackpot (Not exactly those words). I said why ? He answered because the SubSubLord is Mercury, and therefore rahu will give the results of Mercury, because you have to move one step further whenever you find the same planet as StarLord or SubLord. Apart from this, no planet in Mychart tenants any of the Stars of Mercury, so Rahu becomes the first class significator for Mercury in my chart, who owns both the 2nd and the 11th house in my Chart. Well frankly I did not believe him much at that time because I thought he was telling me this just to make me happy. (Later on in Lessons while Learning from him, he did point out to the students that whenever you find any planet in its own star, you must treat the SubLord as the StarLord). > When Rahu Mahadasha entered my Life on January 2007, things changed for me dramatically. Most of my old debts were cleared up immediately on dawn of Rahu Mahadasha. I was aired on the National Channel, I got a Contract from one of the Big companies for monthly assignments for which I was paid a respectable amount. All this happenned by itself without me approaching anybody. My Life has changed much after the Rahu Mahadasha. I am comfortable today monetary wise if not rich. I have enough work and opportunities. The going is smooth with Lords Grace and Gurujis blessings. > For those interested my Birth details - > 28th June 1961. 10.15am Eluru 16.45N 81.09E (Near Vijaywada). > This principle is also mentioned partly in Chandrakant Bhatt's Book - Nakshatra Chintamani. > best wishes, > Bhaskar. > > > > @gro ups.com, " tw853 " tw853@ wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > 1. This rule is discovered by Late Suresh Shahasane ji and comment had been given before in the Message below. > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 16664 > > 2. In honour of Late Suresh Shahasane ji, some tributes by his disciples will be published in the KPE-zine August 2009, which will be posted very soon. > > Regards, > > tw > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " tw853 " tw853@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > Such rule is not in the KP Readers and the Nodes rules are specifically set in KP, not like mentioned here. > > > Regards, > > > tw > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Abhiji, > > > > Can you please give reference of the rule you have mentioned. I am not able to recollect where it is. I want to go through the example. It makes lots of difference to me. > > > > Regards. > > > > Dr. Rath. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > CA ABHI <abhica2004@> > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Sunday, August 2, 2009 2:40:10 PM > > > > CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HELLO ALL MEMBERS, > > > > AS PER KP RULE- > > > > WHEN A PLANET IS IN ITS OWN STR, THEN ITS SUB LORD WILL BE TREATED AS ITS WORKING STR LORD > > > > FOR EXAMPLE: > > > > > > > > PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > > Ke Ke JU SA > > > > WHICH IS CORRECT : > > > > A PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU SA > > > > EVEN THOUGH,JU HAS BECOME THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD OF KE, > > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL REMAIN JU ITSELF > > > > B PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU/SA SA > > > > AS JU HAS BECOMES THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD, > > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL BE JU ITSELF OR > > > > SA WILL BECOME THE EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > CA ABHISHEK SHRIVASTAV > > > > MOB.NO.98272- 35856 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Dear Sujata ji, // I don't have software to generate sub sub sub. // I too do not have knowledge about sub sub sub , what to do with them, and how to use them for predictions, so please excuse me here. About the Star Lords and the SubLords you are a very old member here, so I need not mention the same. regards/Bhaskar. , sujata das <sujatadash1 wrote: > > Dear Bhasker > This is interesting. My mars is in mars star and own sub and Ra sub sub.My mer is in mer sub and mer sub sub. Ra is in ke star ra sub and ra sub sub > I don't have software to generate sub sub sub. If u have the software would u let me know the effective star lord and sub of mars, ra, mer ? My dob is 5-5-55, Tob is 9-37 pm, pob is delhi > Regards > Sujata > > > > > ________________________________ > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > > Tuesday, 4 August, 2009 1:36:23 AM > Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD > > > Dear Friends, > Once I had gone to visit Shri Sahasneji with my own chart before the Rahu Mahadasha was to dawn in my Life. That was probably in 2006. I noticed that I had prepared my Chart from a Sofwtare which was very famous, but had a doubt in the SubLord position calculated thus. On my pointing this so, Mr.Sahashne took the trouble of taking out the Ephemeris and manually calculated the Degrees and the SubSubLord too. > Now the result - > Rahu in my Chart in Lagna in Leo, at 6.41.32 degrees in star of Ketu and in Sub of Rahu itself. He was very happy to see the SubSub Lord as Mercury. He mentioned that now you have hit the jackpot (Not exactly those words). I said why ? He answered because the SubSubLord is Mercury, and therefore rahu will give the results of Mercury, because you have to move one step further whenever you find the same planet as StarLord or SubLord. Apart from this, no planet in Mychart tenants any of the Stars of Mercury, so Rahu becomes the first class significator for Mercury in my chart, who owns both the 2nd and the 11th house in my Chart. Well frankly I did not believe him much at that time because I thought he was telling me this just to make me happy. (Later on in Lessons while Learning from him, he did point out to the students that whenever you find any planet in its own star, you must treat the SubLord as the StarLord). > When Rahu Mahadasha entered my Life on January 2007, things changed for me dramatically. Most of my old debts were cleared up immediately on dawn of Rahu Mahadasha. I was aired on the National Channel, I got a Contract from one of the Big companies for monthly assignments for which I was paid a respectable amount. All this happenned by itself without me approaching anybody. My Life has changed much after the Rahu Mahadasha. I am comfortable today monetary wise if not rich. I have enough work and opportunities. The going is smooth with Lords Grace and Gurujis blessings. > For those interested my Birth details - > 28th June 1961. 10.15am Eluru 16.45N 81.09E (Near Vijaywada). > This principle is also mentioned partly in Chandrakant Bhatt's Book - Nakshatra Chintamani. > best wishes, > Bhaskar. > > > > @gro ups.com, " tw853 " tw853@ wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > 1. This rule is discovered by Late Suresh Shahasane ji and comment had been given before in the Message below. > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 16664 > > 2. In honour of Late Suresh Shahasane ji, some tributes by his disciples will be published in the KPE-zine August 2009, which will be posted very soon. > > Regards, > > tw > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " tw853 " tw853@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > Such rule is not in the KP Readers and the Nodes rules are specifically set in KP, not like mentioned here. > > > Regards, > > > tw > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Abhiji, > > > > Can you please give reference of the rule you have mentioned. I am not able to recollect where it is. I want to go through the example. It makes lots of difference to me. > > > > Regards. > > > > Dr. Rath. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > CA ABHI <abhica2004@> > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Sunday, August 2, 2009 2:40:10 PM > > > > CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HELLO ALL MEMBERS, > > > > AS PER KP RULE- > > > > WHEN A PLANET IS IN ITS OWN STR, THEN ITS SUB LORD WILL BE TREATED AS ITS WORKING STR LORD > > > > FOR EXAMPLE: > > > > > > > > PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > > Ke Ke JU SA > > > > WHICH IS CORRECT : > > > > A PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU SA > > > > EVEN THOUGH,JU HAS BECOME THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD OF KE, > > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL REMAIN JU ITSELF > > > > B PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU/SA SA > > > > AS JU HAS BECOMES THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD, > > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL BE JU ITSELF OR > > > > SA WILL BECOME THE EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > CA ABHISHEK SHRIVASTAV > > > > MOB.NO.98272- 35856 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for local information? 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Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Sir, In one argues that Rahu is beneficial because it is in sub-sub of Mercury then the period ruled by Rahu and Mercury should have been the best. But according to you Rahu-Rahu was best. What do you think about it? What could be other influences on either Rahu or Mercury?Please analyse and throw some light when time permits. Dr. Rath Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 8:08:58 PM Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD Dear Rath ji,I feel that Rahu-Rahu Bhukti was the best one.regards/Bhaskar.@gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskarji,> Can you recollect your life events during Rahu dasa- Rahu Bhukti; Rahudasa-Mercury bhukti and Rahu dasa-kethu bhukti? And can you tell uswhich period was best of the three?> Dr. Rath>>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> @gro ups.com> Tuesday, August 4, 2009 1:36:23 AM> Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD>>> Dear Friends,> Once I had gone to visit Shri Sahasneji with my own chart before theRahu Mahadasha was to dawn in my Life. That was probably in 2006. Inoticed that I had prepared my Chart from a Sofwtare which was veryfamous, but had a doubt in the SubLord position calculated thus. On mypointing this so, Mr.Sahashne took the trouble of taking out theEphemeris and manually calculated the Degrees and the SubSubLord too.> Now the result -> Rahu in my Chart in Lagna in Leo, at 6.41.32 degrees in star of Ketuand in Sub of Rahu itself. He was very happy to see the SubSub Lord asMercury. He mentioned that now you have hit the jackpot (Not exactlythose words). I said why ? He answered because the SubSubLord isMercury, and therefore rahu will give the results of Mercury, becauseyou have to move one step further whenever you find the same planet asStarLord or SubLord. Apart from this, no planet in Mychart tenants anyof the Stars of Mercury, so Rahu becomes the first class significatorfor Mercury in my chart, who owns both the 2nd and the 11th house in myChart. Well frankly I did not believe him much at that time because Ithought he was telling me this just to make me happy. (Later on inLessons while Learning from him, he did point out to the students thatwhenever you find any planet in its own star, you must treat theSubLord as the StarLord).> When Rahu Mahadasha entered my Life on January 2007, things changedfor me dramatically. Most of my old debts were cleared up immediately ondawn of Rahu Mahadasha. I was aired on the National Channel, I got aContract from one of the Big companies for monthly assignments for whichI was paid a respectable amount. All this happenned by itself without meapproaching anybody. My Life has changed much after the Rahu Mahadasha.I am comfortable today monetary wise if not rich. I have enough work andopportunities. The going is smooth with Lords Grace and Gurujisblessings.> For those interested my Birth details -> 28th June 1961. 10.15am Eluru 16.45N 81.09E (Near Vijaywada).> This principle is also mentioned partly in Chandrakant Bhatt's Book -Nakshatra Chintamani.> best wishes,> Bhaskar.>>>> @gro ups.com, "tw853" tw853@ wrote:> >> > Dear Friends,> > 1. This rule is discovered by Late Suresh Shahasane ji and commenthad been given before in the Message below.> > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 16664> > 2. In honour of Late Suresh Shahasane ji, some tributes by hisdisciples will be published in the KPE-zine August 2009, which will beposted very soon.> > Regards,> > tw> >> >> >> > @gro ups.com, "tw853" tw853@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Friends,> > > Such rule is not in the KP Readers and the Nodes rules arespecifically set in KP, not like mentioned here.> > > Regards,> > > tw> > >> > >> > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ >wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Abhiji,> > > > Can you please give reference of the rule you have mentioned. Iam not able to recollect where it is. I want to go through the example.It makes lots of difference to me.> > > > Regards.> > > > Dr. Rath.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > CA ABHI <abhica2004@ >> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Sunday, August 2, 2009 2:40:10 PM> > > > CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > HELLO ALL MEMBERS,> > > > AS PER KP RULE-> > > > WHEN A PLANET IS IN ITS OWN STR, THEN ITS SUB LORD WILL BETREATED AS ITS WORKING STR LORD> > > > FOR EXAMPLE:> > > >> > > > PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD> > > > Ke Ke JU SA> > > > WHICH IS CORRECT :> > > > A PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD> > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU SA> > > > EVEN THOUGH,JU HAS BECOME THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD OF KE,> > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL REMAIN JU ITSELF> > > > B PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD> > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU/SA SA> > > > AS JU HAS BECOMES THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD,> > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL BE JU ITSELF OR> > > > SA WILL BECOME THE EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > >> > > > CA ABHISHEK SHRIVASTAV> > > > MOB.NO.98272- 35856> > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Dear Sujatha JiThe Subs detail u are expecting to see can be seen in JHL SW.they are Nakshastra LordSub Lord,Prati Sub,Shookshama SubPrana Sub & Deha SubBut I too don't have a knowledge to see the effects of all those SubsRegdsKalyanBhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 10:05:37 PM Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD Dear Sujata ji, // I don't have software to generate sub sub sub. // I too do not have knowledge about sub sub sub , what to do with them, and how to use them for predictions, so please excuse me here. About the Star Lords and the SubLords you are a very old member here, so I need not mention the same. regards/Bhaskar. @gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Bhasker > This is interesting. My mars is in mars star and own sub and Ra sub sub.My mer is in mer sub and mer sub sub. Ra is in ke star ra sub and ra sub sub > I don't have software to generate sub sub sub. If u have the software would u let me know the effective star lord and sub of mars, ra, mer ? My dob is 5-5-55, Tob is 9-37 pm, pob is delhi > Regards > Sujata > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > @gro ups.com > Tuesday, 4 August, 2009 1:36:23 AM > Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD > > > Dear Friends, > Once I had gone to visit Shri Sahasneji with my own chart before the Rahu Mahadasha was to dawn in my Life. That was probably in 2006. I noticed that I had prepared my Chart from a Sofwtare which was very famous, but had a doubt in the SubLord position calculated thus. On my pointing this so, Mr.Sahashne took the trouble of taking out the Ephemeris and manually calculated the Degrees and the SubSubLord too. > Now the result - > Rahu in my Chart in Lagna in Leo, at 6.41.32 degrees in star of Ketu and in Sub of Rahu itself. He was very happy to see the SubSub Lord as Mercury. He mentioned that now you have hit the jackpot (Not exactly those words). I said why ? He answered because the SubSubLord is Mercury, and therefore rahu will give the results of Mercury, because you have to move one step further whenever you find the same planet as StarLord or SubLord. Apart from this, no planet in Mychart tenants any of the Stars of Mercury, so Rahu becomes the first class significator for Mercury in my chart, who owns both the 2nd and the 11th house in my Chart. Well frankly I did not believe him much at that time because I thought he was telling me this just to make me happy. (Later on in Lessons while Learning from him, he did point out to the students that whenever you find any planet in its own star, you must treat the SubLord as the StarLord). > When Rahu Mahadasha entered my Life on January 2007, things changed for me dramatically. Most of my old debts were cleared up immediately on dawn of Rahu Mahadasha. I was aired on the National Channel, I got a Contract from one of the Big companies for monthly assignments for which I was paid a respectable amount. All this happenned by itself without me approaching anybody. My Life has changed much after the Rahu Mahadasha. I am comfortable today monetary wise if not rich. I have enough work and opportunities. The going is smooth with Lords Grace and Gurujis blessings. > For those interested my Birth details - > 28th June 1961. 10.15am Eluru 16.45N 81.09E (Near Vijaywada). > This principle is also mentioned partly in Chandrakant Bhatt's Book - Nakshatra Chintamani. > best wishes, > Bhaskar. > > > > @gro ups.com, "tw853" tw853@ wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > 1. This rule is discovered by Late Suresh Shahasane ji and comment had been given before in the Message below. > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 16664 > > 2. In honour of Late Suresh Shahasane ji, some tributes by his disciples will be published in the KPE-zine August 2009, which will be posted very soon. > > Regards, > > tw > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "tw853" tw853@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > Such rule is not in the KP Readers and the Nodes rules are specifically set in KP, not like mentioned here. > > > Regards, > > > tw > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Abhiji, > > > > Can you please give reference of the rule you have mentioned. I am not able to recollect where it is. I want to go through the example. It makes lots of difference to me. > > > > Regards. > > > > Dr. Rath. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > CA ABHI <abhica2004@ > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Sunday, August 2, 2009 2:40:10 PM > > > > CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HELLO ALL MEMBERS, > > > > AS PER KP RULE- > > > > WHEN A PLANET IS IN ITS OWN STR, THEN ITS SUB LORD WILL BE TREATED AS ITS WORKING STR LORD > > > > FOR EXAMPLE: > > > > > > > > PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > > Ke Ke JU SA > > > > WHICH IS CORRECT : > > > > A PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU SA > > > > EVEN THOUGH,JU HAS BECOME THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD OF KE, > > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL REMAIN JU ITSELF > > > > B PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU/SA SA > > > > AS JU HAS BECOMES THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD, > > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL BE JU ITSELF OR > > > > SA WILL BECOME THE EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > CA ABHISHEK SHRIVASTAV > > > > MOB.NO.98272- 35856 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for local information? 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Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Dear Luther ji, I am still not sure what you mean by Bhukti. Does it mean Antardasha or pratyantardasha in your parlance. I think there is some misunderstanding on your part. I have nowhere mentioned that Rahu is beneficial just because it is in sub-sub of Mercury. The whole context must be ready to understand this. What I mentioned was that- SinceRahu is in its own sub, then as per Shri Sahasneji , we must move to the SubSub and consider it as the StarLord and check the results thereof. Here Rahu becomes the first class significator for Mercury in this manner, and additionally there is no Planet in star of Mercury which emphasises this fact. Now on your take of why RahuRahu is more beneficial than Mercury . Let me clarify that Rahu-Rahu was more beneficial in certain departments and Rahu-Mer was more beneficial in other departments. There is no definition of what is "beneficial" . For some it is money, and for others it is just fame because they already have money. And furthermore people if a dasha gives them both name and fame , then it is considered as beneficial. Let me tell you that uptil now, Rahu-Rahu the whole antardasha has been very much beneficial for me on all angles. This is now coming to a close. Can you guide me what to expect in antardasha of Jupiter which is now expected to begin in September ? Do i foresee a heart attack, Surgery ? Loss in business ? Or pregnancy to my first born ? Or loss of my mother ? Or change of my residence ? Since you are quite an active member on this Group, I would value your comments and if they do not confirm to my own, would like to discuss on the astrological pointers presented by Your goodself. regards/Bhaskar. , Luther Rath <rathluther wrote:>> Sir, In one argues that Rahu is beneficial because it is in sub-sub of Mercury then the period ruled by Rahu and Mercury should have been the best. But according to you Rahu-Rahu was best. What do you think about it? What could be other influences on either Rahu or Mercury?Please analyse and throw some light when time permits.> Dr. Rath> > > > > ________________________________> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Thursday, August 6, 2009 8:08:58 PM> Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD> > > > Dear Rath ji,> > I feel that Rahu-Rahu Bhukti was the best one.> > regards/Bhaskar.> > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Bhaskarji,> > Can you recollect your life events during Rahu dasa- Rahu Bhukti; Rahu> dasa-Mercury bhukti and Rahu dasa-kethu bhukti? And can you tell us> which period was best of the three?> > Dr. Rath> >> >> >> >> > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > @gro ups.com> > Tuesday, August 4, 2009 1:36:23 AM> > Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD> >> >> > Dear Friends,> > Once I had gone to visit Shri Sahasneji with my own chart before the> Rahu Mahadasha was to dawn in my Life. That was probably in 2006. I> noticed that I had prepared my Chart from a Sofwtare which was very> famous, but had a doubt in the SubLord position calculated thus. On my> pointing this so, Mr.Sahashne took the trouble of taking out the> Ephemeris and manually calculated the Degrees and the SubSubLord too.> > Now the result -> > Rahu in my Chart in Lagna in Leo, at 6.41.32 degrees in star of Ketu> and in Sub of Rahu itself. He was very happy to see the SubSub Lord as> Mercury. He mentioned that now you have hit the jackpot (Not exactly> those words). I said why ? He answered because the SubSubLord is> Mercury, and therefore rahu will give the results of Mercury, because> you have to move one step further whenever you find the same planet as> StarLord or SubLord. Apart from this, no planet in Mychart tenants any> of the Stars of Mercury, so Rahu becomes the first class significator> for Mercury in my chart, who owns both the 2nd and the 11th house in my> Chart. Well frankly I did not believe him much at that time because I> thought he was telling me this just to make me happy. (Later on in> Lessons while Learning from him, he did point out to the students that> whenever you find any planet in its own star, you must treat the> SubLord as the StarLord).> > When Rahu Mahadasha entered my Life on January 2007, things changed> for me dramatically. Most of my old debts were cleared up immediately on> dawn of Rahu Mahadasha. I was aired on the National Channel, I got a> Contract from one of the Big companies for monthly assignments for which> I was paid a respectable amount. All this happenned by itself without me> approaching anybody. My Life has changed much after the Rahu Mahadasha.> I am comfortable today monetary wise if not rich. I have enough work and> opportunities. The going is smooth with Lords Grace and Gurujis> blessings.> > For those interested my Birth details -> > 28th June 1961. 10.15am Eluru 16.45N 81.09E (Near Vijaywada).> > This principle is also mentioned partly in Chandrakant Bhatt's Book -> Nakshatra Chintamani.> > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.> >> >> >> > @gro ups.com, "tw853" tw853@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Friends,> > > 1. This rule is discovered by Late Suresh Shahasane ji and comment> had been given before in the Message below.> > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 16664> > > 2. In honour of Late Suresh Shahasane ji, some tributes by his> disciples will be published in the KPE-zine August 2009, which will be> posted very soon.> > > Regards,> > > tw> > >> > >> > >> > > @gro ups.com, "tw853" tw853@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Friends,> > > > Such rule is not in the KP Readers and the Nodes rules are> specifically set in KP, not like mentioned here.> > > > Regards,> > > > tw> > > >> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ >> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Abhiji,> > > > > Can you please give reference of the rule you have mentioned. I> am not able to recollect where it is. I want to go through the example.> It makes lots of difference to me.> > > > > Regards.> > > > > Dr. Rath.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > CA ABHI <abhica2004@ >> > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > Sunday, August 2, 2009 2:40:10 PM> > > > > CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > HELLO ALL MEMBERS,> > > > > AS PER KP RULE-> > > > > WHEN A PLANET IS IN ITS OWN STR, THEN ITS SUB LORD WILL BE> TREATED AS ITS WORKING STR LORD> > > > > FOR EXAMPLE:> > > > >> > > > > PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD> > > > > Ke Ke JU SA> > > > > WHICH IS CORRECT :> > > > > A PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD> > > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU SA> > > > > EVEN THOUGH,JU HAS BECOME THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD OF KE,> > > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL REMAIN JU ITSELF> > > > > B PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD> > > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU/SA SA> > > > > AS JU HAS BECOMES THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD,> > > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL BE JU ITSELF OR> > > > > SA WILL BECOME THE EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > CA ABHISHEK SHRIVASTAV> > > > > MOB.NO.98272- 35856> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Dear Mr KalyanThanks.All the best for ur surgery tomorrowRegardsSujataSunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha Sent: Friday, 7 August, 2009 5:23:05 PMRe: Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD Dear Sujatha JiThe Subs detail u are expecting to see can be seen in JHL SW.they are Nakshastra LordSub Lord,Prati Sub,Shookshama SubPrana Sub & Deha SubBut I too don't have a knowledge to see the effects of all those SubsRegdsKalyanBhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>@gro ups.comThursday, August 6, 2009 10:05:37 PM Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD Dear Sujata ji, // I don't have software to generate sub sub sub. // I too do not have knowledge about sub sub sub , what to do with them, and how to use them for predictions, so please excuse me here. About the Star Lords and the SubLords you are a very old member here, so I need not mention the same. regards/Bhaskar. @gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Bhasker > This is interesting. My mars is in mars star and own sub and Ra sub sub.My mer is in mer sub and mer sub sub. Ra is in ke star ra sub and ra sub sub > I don't have software to generate sub sub sub. If u have the software would u let me know the effective star lord and sub of mars, ra, mer ? My dob is 5-5-55, Tob is 9-37 pm, pob is delhi > Regards > Sujata > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > @gro ups.com > Tuesday, 4 August, 2009 1:36:23 AM > Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD > > > Dear Friends, > Once I had gone to visit Shri Sahasneji with my own chart before the Rahu Mahadasha was to dawn in my Life. That was probably in 2006. I noticed that I had prepared my Chart from a Sofwtare which was very famous, but had a doubt in the SubLord position calculated thus. On my pointing this so, Mr.Sahashne took the trouble of taking out the Ephemeris and manually calculated the Degrees and the SubSubLord too. > Now the result - > Rahu in my Chart in Lagna in Leo, at 6.41.32 degrees in star of Ketu and in Sub of Rahu itself. He was very happy to see the SubSub Lord as Mercury. He mentioned that now you have hit the jackpot (Not exactly those words). I said why ? He answered because the SubSubLord is Mercury, and therefore rahu will give the results of Mercury, because you have to move one step further whenever you find the same planet as StarLord or SubLord. Apart from this, no planet in Mychart tenants any of the Stars of Mercury, so Rahu becomes the first class significator for Mercury in my chart, who owns both the 2nd and the 11th house in my Chart. Well frankly I did not believe him much at that time because I thought he was telling me this just to make me happy. (Later on in Lessons while Learning from him, he did point out to the students that whenever you find any planet in its own star, you must treat the SubLord as the StarLord). > When Rahu Mahadasha entered my Life on January 2007, things changed for me dramatically. Most of my old debts were cleared up immediately on dawn of Rahu Mahadasha. I was aired on the National Channel, I got a Contract from one of the Big companies for monthly assignments for which I was paid a respectable amount. All this happenned by itself without me approaching anybody. My Life has changed much after the Rahu Mahadasha. I am comfortable today monetary wise if not rich. I have enough work and opportunities. The going is smooth with Lords Grace and Gurujis blessings. > For those interested my Birth details - > 28th June 1961. 10.15am Eluru 16.45N 81.09E (Near Vijaywada). > This principle is also mentioned partly in Chandrakant Bhatt's Book - Nakshatra Chintamani. > best wishes, > Bhaskar. > > > > @gro ups.com, "tw853" tw853@ wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > 1. This rule is discovered by Late Suresh Shahasane ji and comment had been given before in the Message below. > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 16664 > > 2. In honour of Late Suresh Shahasane ji, some tributes by his disciples will be published in the KPE-zine August 2009, which will be posted very soon. > > Regards, > > tw > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "tw853" tw853@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > Such rule is not in the KP Readers and the Nodes rules are specifically set in KP, not like mentioned here. > > > Regards, > > > tw > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Abhiji, > > > > Can you please give reference of the rule you have mentioned. I am not able to recollect where it is. I want to go through the example. It makes lots of difference to me. > > > > Regards. > > > > Dr. Rath. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > CA ABHI <abhica2004@ > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Sunday, August 2, 2009 2:40:10 PM > > > > CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HELLO ALL MEMBERS, > > > > AS PER KP RULE- > > > > WHEN A PLANET IS IN ITS OWN STR, THEN ITS SUB LORD WILL BE TREATED AS ITS WORKING STR LORD > > > > FOR EXAMPLE: > > > > > > > > PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > > Ke Ke JU SA > > > > WHICH IS CORRECT : > > > > A PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU SA > > > > EVEN THOUGH,JU HAS BECOME THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD OF KE, > > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL REMAIN JU ITSELF > > > > B PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU/SA SA > > > > AS JU HAS BECOMES THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD, > > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL BE JU ITSELF OR > > > > SA WILL BECOME THE EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > CA ABHISHEK SHRIVASTAV > > > > MOB.NO.98272- 35856 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for local information? 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Guest guest Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Respected Mr.Bhaskar, Sir, I am afraid I am a bit confused by reading your post.I am not able to understand what exactly you want to say. The inability must be mine. I have studied the well-written book by late Mr. Shahasane and the rule mentioned in the book, as I understood it, is as follows:- " If a planet is in its own star, then it gives the result of its sub-lord; and if a planet is in its own star as well as in its own sub;then it logically follows that it will give the result of its sub-sub-lord. " Are you mentioning the same rule or a different one? Please clarify. regards, sujatkaram. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Luther ji, > > I am still not sure what you mean by Bhukti. Does it mean Antardasha or > pratyantardasha in your parlance. > > I think there is some misunderstanding on your part. I have nowhere > mentioned that Rahu is beneficial just because it is in sub-sub of > Mercury. The whole context must be ready to understand this. What I > mentioned was that- SinceRahu is in its own sub, then as per Shri > Sahasneji , we must move to the SubSub and consider it as the StarLord > and check the results thereof. Here Rahu becomes the first class > significator for Mercury in this manner, and additionally there is no > Planet in star of Mercury which emphasises this fact. > > Now on your take of why RahuRahu is more beneficial than Mercury . Let > me clarify that Rahu-Rahu was more beneficial in certain departments and > Rahu-Mer was more beneficial in other departments. There is no > definition of what is " beneficial " . For some it is money, and for > others it is just fame because they already have money. And furthermore > people if a dasha gives them both name and fame , then it is considered > as beneficial. Let me tell you that uptil now, Rahu-Rahu the whole > antardasha has been very much beneficial for me on all angles. This is > now coming to a close. > > Can you guide me what to expect in antardasha of Jupiter which is now > expected to begin in September ? Do i foresee a heart attack, Surgery ? > Loss in business ? Or pregnancy to my first born ? Or loss of my mother > ? Or change of my residence ? > > Since you are quite an active member on this Group, I would value your > comments and if they do not confirm to my own, would like to discuss on > the astrological pointers presented by Your goodself. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > , Luther Rath <rathluther@> wrote: > > > > Sir, In one argues that Rahu is beneficial because it is in sub-sub of > Mercury then the period ruled by Rahu and Mercury should have been the > best. But according to you Rahu-Rahu was best. What do you think about > it? What could be other influences on either Rahu or Mercury?Please > analyse and throw some light when time permits. > > Dr. Rath > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > Thursday, August 6, 2009 8:08:58 PM > > Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD > > > > > > > > Dear Rath ji, > > > > I feel that Rahu-Rahu Bhukti was the best one. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > Can you recollect your life events during Rahu dasa- Rahu Bhukti; > Rahu > > dasa-Mercury bhukti and Rahu dasa-kethu bhukti? And can you tell us > > which period was best of the three? > > > Dr. Rath > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > @gro ups.com > > > Tuesday, August 4, 2009 1:36:23 AM > > > Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > Once I had gone to visit Shri Sahasneji with my own chart before the > > Rahu Mahadasha was to dawn in my Life. That was probably in 2006. I > > noticed that I had prepared my Chart from a Sofwtare which was very > > famous, but had a doubt in the SubLord position calculated thus. On my > > pointing this so, Mr.Sahashne took the trouble of taking out the > > Ephemeris and manually calculated the Degrees and the SubSubLord too. > > > Now the result - > > > Rahu in my Chart in Lagna in Leo, at 6.41.32 degrees in star of Ketu > > and in Sub of Rahu itself. He was very happy to see the SubSub Lord as > > Mercury. He mentioned that now you have hit the jackpot (Not exactly > > those words). I said why ? He answered because the SubSubLord is > > Mercury, and therefore rahu will give the results of Mercury, because > > you have to move one step further whenever you find the same planet as > > StarLord or SubLord. Apart from this, no planet in Mychart tenants any > > of the Stars of Mercury, so Rahu becomes the first class significator > > for Mercury in my chart, who owns both the 2nd and the 11th house in > my > > Chart. Well frankly I did not believe him much at that time because I > > thought he was telling me this just to make me happy. (Later on in > > Lessons while Learning from him, he did point out to the students that > > whenever you find any planet in its own star, you must treat the > > SubLord as the StarLord). > > > When Rahu Mahadasha entered my Life on January 2007, things changed > > for me dramatically. Most of my old debts were cleared up immediately > on > > dawn of Rahu Mahadasha. I was aired on the National Channel, I got a > > Contract from one of the Big companies for monthly assignments for > which > > I was paid a respectable amount. All this happenned by itself without > me > > approaching anybody. My Life has changed much after the Rahu > Mahadasha. > > I am comfortable today monetary wise if not rich. I have enough work > and > > opportunities. The going is smooth with Lords Grace and Gurujis > > blessings. > > > For those interested my Birth details - > > > 28th June 1961. 10.15am Eluru 16.45N 81.09E (Near Vijaywada). > > > This principle is also mentioned partly in Chandrakant Bhatt's Book > - > > Nakshatra Chintamani. > > > best wishes, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " tw853 " tw853@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > 1. This rule is discovered by Late Suresh Shahasane ji and comment > > had been given before in the Message below. > > > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 16664 > > > > 2. In honour of Late Suresh Shahasane ji, some tributes by his > > disciples will be published in the KPE-zine August 2009, which will be > > posted very soon. > > > > Regards, > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " tw853 " tw853@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > Such rule is not in the KP Readers and the Nodes rules are > > specifically set in KP, not like mentioned here. > > > > > Regards, > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Abhiji, > > > > > > Can you please give reference of the rule you have mentioned. > I > > am not able to recollect where it is. I want to go through the > example. > > It makes lots of difference to me. > > > > > > Regards. > > > > > > Dr. Rath. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > CA ABHI <abhica2004@ > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > Sunday, August 2, 2009 2:40:10 PM > > > > > > CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HELLO ALL MEMBERS, > > > > > > AS PER KP RULE- > > > > > > WHEN A PLANET IS IN ITS OWN STR, THEN ITS SUB LORD WILL BE > > TREATED AS ITS WORKING STR LORD > > > > > > FOR EXAMPLE: > > > > > > > > > > > > PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > > > > Ke Ke JU SA > > > > > > WHICH IS CORRECT : > > > > > > A PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU SA > > > > > > EVEN THOUGH,JU HAS BECOME THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD OF KE, > > > > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL REMAIN JU ITSELF > > > > > > B PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU/SA SA > > > > > > AS JU HAS BECOMES THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD, > > > > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL BE JU ITSELF OR > > > > > > SA WILL BECOME THE EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CA ABHISHEK SHRIVASTAV > > > > > > MOB.NO.98272- 35856 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Dear Bhaskarji, I think you have misunderstod me some where. No mater it happens. 1. We frequently use the abbreviation 'DBAS' D=dasa i.e.Mahadasa or Major period. B=Bhukti i.e. Antardasa. A=Antara i.e.Pratyantardasa And S=Sookshma. In all Readers of KP Dasa, Bhukti, Antara and Sookshma are mentioned. KSK has given much importance to Dasa and Bhukti in most of the examples. In some cases he has used Antara and in only few cases the Sookshma level. 2.Of course you have not mentioned any where that Rahu is beneficial just because it is in sub-sub of Mercury. The mention of Rahu becoming first class significator for Mercury (because Rahu is in sub-sub of Mercury besides posited in own sub) I thought it in that way. I may be excused if I am wrong. The imprtance of association of Rahu and Mercury in that way has been emphasized because no planet occupies any constellation of Mercury. If the conception is correct then it needs to be added to the list of significance of Nodes. Nodes act for the planets conjoined with them Nodes act for the planets that aspect them. Nodes act for their constellation lord, Nodes act for the lord s of Signs they occupy. Nodes when in own constellation or sub then they act for the sub-sub lord. Could it be right? 3. What you experience during Jupiter Antardasa? a) Heart attack: - Houses concerned should be VI, VIII and XII. Planets -Mars. Sign-Leo. b) Surgery: -All above minus leo sign. c) Loss in business: -Houses concerned should be V, VIII, XII. Let us limit to these issues for the present. Now Jupiter is in a particular planet. Let us call it 'P'. If 'P' signifies the elements in a) then heart attack is a posibility. If 'P' signifies elements of b) then you could have surgery during Jupiter period. If 'P' signifies houses in c) you lose in business. If 'P' negates the elements of any of the above three conditions you will not experience that event. If 'P' remains neutral the occuence of the event shall depend on other period lords. I think accordingly other events can be excluded or confirmed. Transit of Jupiter has to be taken in to consideration. Dr. Rath Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 11:56:11 PM Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD Dear Luther ji, I am still not sure what you mean by Bhukti. Does it mean Antardasha or pratyantardasha in your parlance. I think there is some misunderstanding on your part. I have nowhere mentioned that Rahu is beneficial just because it is in sub-sub of Mercury. The whole context must be ready to understand this. What I mentioned was that- SinceRahu is in its own sub, then as per Shri Sahasneji , we must move to the SubSub and consider it as the StarLord and check the results thereof. Here Rahu becomes the first class significator for Mercury in this manner, and additionally there is no Planet in star of Mercury which emphasises this fact. Now on your take of why RahuRahu is more beneficial than Mercury . Let me clarify that Rahu-Rahu was more beneficial in certain departments and Rahu-Mer was more beneficial in other departments. There is no definition of what is "beneficial" . For some it is money, and for others it is just fame because they already have money. And furthermore people if a dasha gives them both name and fame , then it is considered as beneficial. Let me tell you that uptil now, Rahu-Rahu the whole antardasha has been very much beneficial for me on all angles. This is now coming to a close. Can you guide me what to expect in antardasha of Jupiter which is now expected to begin in September ? Do i foresee a heart attack, Surgery ? Loss in business ? Or pregnancy to my first born ? Or loss of my mother ? Or change of my residence ? Since you are quite an active member on this Group, I would value your comments and if they do not confirm to my own, would like to discuss on the astrological pointers presented by Your goodself. regards/Bhaskar. @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@. ..> wrote:>> Sir, In one argues that Rahu is beneficial because it is in sub-sub of Mercury then the period ruled by Rahu and Mercury should have been the best. But according to you Rahu-Rahu was best. What do you think about it? What could be other influences on either Rahu or Mercury?Please analyse and throw some light when time permits.> Dr. Rath> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> @gro ups.com> Thursday, August 6, 2009 8:08:58 PM> Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD> > > > Dear Rath ji,> > I feel that Rahu-Rahu Bhukti was the best one.> > regards/Bhaskar.> > --- In @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Bhaskarji,> > Can you recollect your life events during Rahu dasa- Rahu Bhukti; Rahu> dasa-Mercury bhukti and Rahu dasa-kethu bhukti? And can you tell us> which period was best of the three?> > Dr. Rath> >> >> >> >> > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > @gro ups.com> > Tuesday, August 4, 2009 1:36:23 AM> > Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD> >> >> > Dear Friends,> > Once I had gone to visit Shri Sahasneji with my own chart before the> Rahu Mahadasha was to dawn in my Life. That was probably in 2006. I> noticed that I had prepared my Chart from a Sofwtare which was very> famous, but had a doubt in the SubLord position calculated thus. On my> pointing this so, Mr.Sahashne took the trouble of taking out the> Ephemeris and manually calculated the Degrees and the SubSubLord too.> > Now the result -> > Rahu in my Chart in Lagna in Leo, at 6.41.32 degrees in star of Ketu> and in Sub of Rahu itself. He was very happy to see the SubSub Lord as> Mercury. He mentioned that now you have hit the jackpot (Not exactly> those words). I said why ? He answered because the SubSubLord is> Mercury, and therefore rahu will give the results of Mercury, because> you have to move one step further whenever you find the same planet as> StarLord or SubLord. Apart from this, no planet in Mychart tenants any> of the Stars of Mercury, so Rahu becomes the first class significator> for Mercury in my chart, who owns both the 2nd and the 11th house in my> Chart. Well frankly I did not believe him much at that time because I> thought he was telling me this just to make me happy. (Later on in> Lessons while Learning from him, he did point out to the students that> whenever you find any planet in its own star, you must treat the> SubLord as the StarLord).> > When Rahu Mahadasha entered my Life on January 2007, things changed> for me dramatically. Most of my old debts were cleared up immediately on> dawn of Rahu Mahadasha. I was aired on the National Channel, I got a> Contract from one of the Big companies for monthly assignments for which> I was paid a respectable amount. All this happenned by itself without me> approaching anybody. My Life has changed much after the Rahu Mahadasha.> I am comfortable today monetary wise if not rich. I have enough work and> opportunities. The going is smooth with Lords Grace and Gurujis> blessings.> > For those interested my Birth details -> > 28th June 1961. 10.15am Eluru 16.45N 81.09E (Near Vijaywada).> > This principle is also mentioned partly in Chandrakant Bhatt's Book -> Nakshatra Chintamani.> > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.> >> >> >> > @gro ups.com, "tw853" tw853@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Friends,> > > 1. This rule is discovered by Late Suresh Shahasane ji and comment> had been given before in the Message below.> > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 16664> > > 2. In honour of Late Suresh Shahasane ji, some tributes by his> disciples will be published in the KPE-zine August 2009, which will be> posted very soon.> > > Regards,> > > tw> > >> > >> > >> > > @gro ups.com, "tw853" tw853@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Friends,> > > > Such rule is not in the KP Readers and the Nodes rules are> specifically set in KP, not like mentioned here.> > > > Regards,> > > > tw> > > >> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ >> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Abhiji,> > > > > Can you please give reference of the rule you have mentioned. I> am not able to recollect where it is. I want to go through the example.> It makes lots of difference to me.> > > > > Regards.> > > > > Dr. Rath.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > CA ABHI <abhica2004@ >> > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > Sunday, August 2, 2009 2:40:10 PM> > > > > CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > HELLO ALL MEMBERS,> > > > > AS PER KP RULE-> > > > > WHEN A PLANET IS IN ITS OWN STR, THEN ITS SUB LORD WILL BE> TREATED AS ITS WORKING STR LORD> > > > > FOR EXAMPLE:> > > > >> > > > > PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD> > > > > Ke Ke JU SA> > > > > WHICH IS CORRECT :> > > > > A PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD> > > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU SA> > > > > EVEN THOUGH,JU HAS BECOME THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD OF KE,> > > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL REMAIN JU ITSELF> > > > > B PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD> > > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU/SA SA> > > > > AS JU HAS BECOMES THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD,> > > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL BE JU ITSELF OR> > > > > SA WILL BECOME THE EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > CA ABHISHEK SHRIVASTAV> > > > > MOB.NO.98272- 35856> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Dear Lutherji, That is what I guessed that you are talking about Bhukti as the antardasha. In that case your Query about which Bhukti was good in Rahu mahadasha, then I can only say that, Rahu-Rahu is still on, and will have to wait for the other Bhuktis to pass. Sir, I am aware of the pointers which bring about these results like attack, loss, surgery etc. I was actually intersted in knowing your Expert comments as to what effect it could bring about in my case, for the incoming Jupiter Bhukti next month, as per your judgement, if You choose to study the same. My Birth details, 28th June 1961. 10.15am. 16.45N and 81.09E at Eluru (Near Vijaywada). kind regards, Bhaskar. , Luther Rath <rathluther wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji, > I think you have misunderstod me some where. No mater it happens. > 1. We frequently use the abbreviation 'DBAS' D=dasa i.e.Mahadasa or Major period. B=Bhukti i.e. Antardasa. A=Antara i.e.Pratyantardasa And S=Sookshma. In all Readers of KP Dasa, Bhukti, Antara and Sookshma are mentioned. KSK has given much importance to Dasa and Bhukti in most of the examples. In some cases he has used Antara and in only few cases the Sookshma level. > 2.Of course you have not mentioned any where that Rahu is beneficial just because it is in sub-sub of Mercury. The mention of Rahu becoming first class significator for Mercury (because Rahu is in sub-sub of Mercury besides posited in own sub) I thought it in that way. I may be excused if I am wrong. The imprtance of association of Rahu and Mercury in that way has been emphasized because no planet occupies any constellation of Mercury. If the conception is correct then it needs to be added to the list of significance of Nodes. > Nodes act for the planets conjoined with them > Nodes act for the planets that aspect them. > Nodes act for their constellation lord, Nodes act for the lord s of Signs they occupy. > Nodes when in own constellation or sub then they act for the sub-sub lord. > Could it be right? > 3. What you experience during Jupiter Antardasa? > a) Heart attack: - Houses concerned should be VI, VIII and XII. Planets -Mars. Sign-Leo. > b) Surgery: -All above minus leo sign. > c) Loss in business: -Houses concerned should be V, VIII, XII. > Let us limit to these issues for the present. > Now Jupiter is in a particular planet. Let us call it 'P'. If 'P' signifies the elements in a) then heart attack is a posibility. > If 'P' signifies elements of b) then you could have surgery during Jupiter period. > If 'P' signifies houses in c) you lose in business. > If 'P' negates the elements of any of the above three conditions you will not experience that event. > If 'P' remains neutral the occuence of the event shall depend on other period lords. > > I think accordingly other events can be excluded or confirmed. Transit of Jupiter has to be taken in to consideration. > Dr. Rath > > > > > ________________________________ > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > > Friday, August 7, 2009 11:56:11 PM > Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD > > > Dear Luther ji, > I am still not sure what you mean by Bhukti. Does it mean Antardasha or pratyantardasha in your parlance. > I think there is some misunderstanding on your part. I have nowhere mentioned that Rahu is beneficial just because it is in sub-sub of Mercury. The whole context must be ready to understand this. What I mentioned was that- SinceRahu is in its own sub, then as per Shri Sahasneji , we must move to the SubSub and consider it as the StarLord and check the results thereof. Here Rahu becomes the first class significator for Mercury in this manner, and additionally there is no Planet in star of Mercury which emphasises this fact. > Now on your take of why RahuRahu is more beneficial than Mercury . Let me clarify that Rahu-Rahu was more beneficial in certain departments and Rahu-Mer was more beneficial in other departments. There is no definition of what is " beneficial " . For some it is money, and for others it is just fame because they already have money. And furthermore people if a dasha gives them both name and fame , then it is considered as beneficial. Let me tell you that uptil now, Rahu-Rahu the whole antardasha has been very much beneficial for me on all angles. This is now coming to a close. > Can you guide me what to expect in antardasha of Jupiter which is now expected to begin in September ? Do i foresee a heart attack, Surgery ? Loss in business ? Or pregnancy to my first born ? Or loss of my mother ? Or change of my residence ? > Since you are quite an active member on this Group, I would value your comments and if they do not confirm to my own, would like to discuss on the astrological pointers presented by Your goodself. > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath rathluther@ ..> wrote: > > > > Sir, In one argues that Rahu is beneficial because it is in sub-sub of Mercury then the period ruled by Rahu and Mercury should have been the best. But according to you Rahu-Rahu was best. What do you think about it? What could be other influences on either Rahu or Mercury?Please analyse and throw some light when time permits. > > Dr. Rath > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > @gro ups.com > > Thursday, August 6, 2009 8:08:58 PM > > Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD > > > > > > > > Dear Rath ji, > > > > I feel that Rahu-Rahu Bhukti was the best one. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > Can you recollect your life events during Rahu dasa- Rahu Bhukti; Rahu > > dasa-Mercury bhukti and Rahu dasa-kethu bhukti? And can you tell us > > which period was best of the three? > > > Dr. Rath > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > @gro ups.com > > > Tuesday, August 4, 2009 1:36:23 AM > > > Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > Once I had gone to visit Shri Sahasneji with my own chart before the > > Rahu Mahadasha was to dawn in my Life. That was probably in 2006. I > > noticed that I had prepared my Chart from a Sofwtare which was very > > famous, but had a doubt in the SubLord position calculated thus. On my > > pointing this so, Mr.Sahashne took the trouble of taking out the > > Ephemeris and manually calculated the Degrees and the SubSubLord too. > > > Now the result - > > > Rahu in my Chart in Lagna in Leo, at 6.41.32 degrees in star of Ketu > > and in Sub of Rahu itself. He was very happy to see the SubSub Lord as > > Mercury. He mentioned that now you have hit the jackpot (Not exactly > > those words). I said why ? He answered because the SubSubLord is > > Mercury, and therefore rahu will give the results of Mercury, because > > you have to move one step further whenever you find the same planet as > > StarLord or SubLord. Apart from this, no planet in Mychart tenants any > > of the Stars of Mercury, so Rahu becomes the first class significator > > for Mercury in my chart, who owns both the 2nd and the 11th house in my > > Chart. Well frankly I did not believe him much at that time because I > > thought he was telling me this just to make me happy. (Later on in > > Lessons while Learning from him, he did point out to the students that > > whenever you find any planet in its own star, you must treat the > > SubLord as the StarLord). > > > When Rahu Mahadasha entered my Life on January 2007, things changed > > for me dramatically. Most of my old debts were cleared up immediately on > > dawn of Rahu Mahadasha. I was aired on the National Channel, I got a > > Contract from one of the Big companies for monthly assignments for which > > I was paid a respectable amount. All this happenned by itself without me > > approaching anybody. My Life has changed much after the Rahu Mahadasha. > > I am comfortable today monetary wise if not rich. I have enough work and > > opportunities. The going is smooth with Lords Grace and Gurujis > > blessings. > > > For those interested my Birth details - > > > 28th June 1961. 10.15am Eluru 16.45N 81.09E (Near Vijaywada). > > > This principle is also mentioned partly in Chandrakant Bhatt's Book - > > Nakshatra Chintamani. > > > best wishes, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " tw853 " tw853@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > 1. This rule is discovered by Late Suresh Shahasane ji and comment > > had been given before in the Message below. > > > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 16664 > > > > 2. In honour of Late Suresh Shahasane ji, some tributes by his > > disciples will be published in the KPE-zine August 2009, which will be > > posted very soon. > > > > Regards, > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " tw853 " tw853@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > Such rule is not in the KP Readers and the Nodes rules are > > specifically set in KP, not like mentioned here. > > > > > Regards, > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Abhiji, > > > > > > Can you please give reference of the rule you have mentioned. I > > am not able to recollect where it is. I want to go through the example. > > It makes lots of difference to me. > > > > > > Regards. > > > > > > Dr. Rath. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > CA ABHI <abhica2004@ > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > Sunday, August 2, 2009 2:40:10 PM > > > > > > CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HELLO ALL MEMBERS, > > > > > > AS PER KP RULE- > > > > > > WHEN A PLANET IS IN ITS OWN STR, THEN ITS SUB LORD WILL BE > > TREATED AS ITS WORKING STR LORD > > > > > > FOR EXAMPLE: > > > > > > > > > > > > PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > > > > Ke Ke JU SA > > > > > > WHICH IS CORRECT : > > > > > > A PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU SA > > > > > > EVEN THOUGH,JU HAS BECOME THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD OF KE, > > > > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL REMAIN JU ITSELF > > > > > > B PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU/SA SA > > > > > > AS JU HAS BECOMES THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD, > > > > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL BE JU ITSELF OR > > > > > > SA WILL BECOME THE EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CA ABHISHEK SHRIVASTAV > > > > > > MOB.NO.98272- 35856 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Dear Shri Sujatkaram ji, I was talking about the same rule Sir. regards, Bhaskar. , " sujatkaram " <sujatkaram wrote: > > Respected Mr.Bhaskar, > Sir, > I am afraid I am a bit confused by reading your post.I am not able to understand what exactly you want to say. The inability must be mine. > I have studied the well-written book by late Mr. Shahasane and the rule mentioned in the book, as I understood it, is as follows:- > " If a planet is in its own star, then it gives the result of its sub-lord; and if a planet is in its own star as well as in its own sub;then it logically follows that it will give the result of its sub-sub-lord. " > Are you mentioning the same rule or a different one? > Please clarify. > regards, > sujatkaram. , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Luther ji, > > > > I am still not sure what you mean by Bhukti. Does it mean Antardasha or > > pratyantardasha in your parlance. > > > > I think there is some misunderstanding on your part. I have nowhere > > mentioned that Rahu is beneficial just because it is in sub-sub of > > Mercury. The whole context must be ready to understand this. What I > > mentioned was that- SinceRahu is in its own sub, then as per Shri > > Sahasneji , we must move to the SubSub and consider it as the StarLord > > and check the results thereof. Here Rahu becomes the first class > > significator for Mercury in this manner, and additionally there is no > > Planet in star of Mercury which emphasises this fact. > > > > Now on your take of why RahuRahu is more beneficial than Mercury . Let > > me clarify that Rahu-Rahu was more beneficial in certain departments and > > Rahu-Mer was more beneficial in other departments. There is no > > definition of what is " beneficial " . For some it is money, and for > > others it is just fame because they already have money. And furthermore > > people if a dasha gives them both name and fame , then it is considered > > as beneficial. Let me tell you that uptil now, Rahu-Rahu the whole > > antardasha has been very much beneficial for me on all angles. This is > > now coming to a close. > > > > Can you guide me what to expect in antardasha of Jupiter which is now > > expected to begin in September ? Do i foresee a heart attack, Surgery ? > > Loss in business ? Or pregnancy to my first born ? Or loss of my mother > > ? Or change of my residence ? > > > > Since you are quite an active member on this Group, I would value your > > comments and if they do not confirm to my own, would like to discuss on > > the astrological pointers presented by Your goodself. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Luther Rath <rathluther@> wrote: > > > > > > Sir, In one argues that Rahu is beneficial because it is in sub-sub of > > Mercury then the period ruled by Rahu and Mercury should have been the > > best. But according to you Rahu-Rahu was best. What do you think about > > it? What could be other influences on either Rahu or Mercury?Please > > analyse and throw some light when time permits. > > > Dr. Rath > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > Thursday, August 6, 2009 8:08:58 PM > > > Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rath ji, > > > > > > I feel that Rahu-Rahu Bhukti was the best one. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > Can you recollect your life events during Rahu dasa- Rahu Bhukti; > > Rahu > > > dasa-Mercury bhukti and Rahu dasa-kethu bhukti? And can you tell us > > > which period was best of the three? > > > > Dr. Rath > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Tuesday, August 4, 2009 1:36:23 AM > > > > Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > Once I had gone to visit Shri Sahasneji with my own chart before the > > > Rahu Mahadasha was to dawn in my Life. That was probably in 2006. I > > > noticed that I had prepared my Chart from a Sofwtare which was very > > > famous, but had a doubt in the SubLord position calculated thus. On my > > > pointing this so, Mr.Sahashne took the trouble of taking out the > > > Ephemeris and manually calculated the Degrees and the SubSubLord too. > > > > Now the result - > > > > Rahu in my Chart in Lagna in Leo, at 6.41.32 degrees in star of Ketu > > > and in Sub of Rahu itself. He was very happy to see the SubSub Lord as > > > Mercury. He mentioned that now you have hit the jackpot (Not exactly > > > those words). I said why ? He answered because the SubSubLord is > > > Mercury, and therefore rahu will give the results of Mercury, because > > > you have to move one step further whenever you find the same planet as > > > StarLord or SubLord. Apart from this, no planet in Mychart tenants any > > > of the Stars of Mercury, so Rahu becomes the first class significator > > > for Mercury in my chart, who owns both the 2nd and the 11th house in > > my > > > Chart. Well frankly I did not believe him much at that time because I > > > thought he was telling me this just to make me happy. (Later on in > > > Lessons while Learning from him, he did point out to the students that > > > whenever you find any planet in its own star, you must treat the > > > SubLord as the StarLord). > > > > When Rahu Mahadasha entered my Life on January 2007, things changed > > > for me dramatically. Most of my old debts were cleared up immediately > > on > > > dawn of Rahu Mahadasha. I was aired on the National Channel, I got a > > > Contract from one of the Big companies for monthly assignments for > > which > > > I was paid a respectable amount. All this happenned by itself without > > me > > > approaching anybody. My Life has changed much after the Rahu > > Mahadasha. > > > I am comfortable today monetary wise if not rich. I have enough work > > and > > > opportunities. The going is smooth with Lords Grace and Gurujis > > > blessings. > > > > For those interested my Birth details - > > > > 28th June 1961. 10.15am Eluru 16.45N 81.09E (Near Vijaywada). > > > > This principle is also mentioned partly in Chandrakant Bhatt's Book > > - > > > Nakshatra Chintamani. > > > > best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " tw853 " tw853@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > 1. This rule is discovered by Late Suresh Shahasane ji and comment > > > had been given before in the Message below. > > > > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 16664 > > > > > 2. In honour of Late Suresh Shahasane ji, some tributes by his > > > disciples will be published in the KPE-zine August 2009, which will be > > > posted very soon. > > > > > Regards, > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " tw853 " tw853@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > Such rule is not in the KP Readers and the Nodes rules are > > > specifically set in KP, not like mentioned here. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Abhiji, > > > > > > > Can you please give reference of the rule you have mentioned. > > I > > > am not able to recollect where it is. I want to go through the > > example. > > > It makes lots of difference to me. > > > > > > > Regards. > > > > > > > Dr. Rath. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > CA ABHI <abhica2004@ > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > Sunday, August 2, 2009 2:40:10 PM > > > > > > > CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HELLO ALL MEMBERS, > > > > > > > AS PER KP RULE- > > > > > > > WHEN A PLANET IS IN ITS OWN STR, THEN ITS SUB LORD WILL BE > > > TREATED AS ITS WORKING STR LORD > > > > > > > FOR EXAMPLE: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > > > > > Ke Ke JU SA > > > > > > > WHICH IS CORRECT : > > > > > > > A PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > > > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU SA > > > > > > > EVEN THOUGH,JU HAS BECOME THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD OF KE, > > > > > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL REMAIN JU ITSELF > > > > > > > B PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > > > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU/SA SA > > > > > > > AS JU HAS BECOMES THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD, > > > > > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL BE JU ITSELF OR > > > > > > > SA WILL BECOME THE EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CA ABHISHEK SHRIVASTAV > > > > > > > MOB.NO.98272- 35856 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 Dear Bhaskarji, I knew you are clear about these things. I have said nothing new. I will see your chart in leisure. Please excuse me. Dr. Rath Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 8:54:54 PM Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD Dear Lutherji,That is what I guessed that you are talking about Bhukti as theantardasha. In that case your Query about which Bhukti was good in Rahumahadasha, then I can only say that, Rahu-Rahu is still on, and willhave to wait for the other Bhuktis to pass.Sir, I am aware of the pointers which bring about these results likeattack, loss, surgery etc. I was actually intersted in knowing yourExpert comments as to what effect it could bring about in my case, forthe incoming Jupiter Bhukti next month, as per your judgement, if Youchoose to study the same.My Birth details, 28th June 1961. 10.15am. 16.45N and 81.09E at Eluru(Near Vijaywada).kind regards,Bhaskar.@gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskarji,> I think you have misunderstod me some where. No mater it happens.> 1. We frequently use the abbreviation 'DBAS' D=dasa i.e.Mahadasa orMajor period. B=Bhukti i.e. Antardasa. A=Antara i.e.Pratyantardasa AndS=Sookshma. In all Readers of KP Dasa, Bhukti, Antara and Sookshma arementioned. KSK has given much importance to Dasa and Bhukti in most ofthe examples. In some cases he has used Antara and in only few cases theSookshma level.> 2.Of course you have not mentioned any where that Rahu is beneficialjust because it is in sub-sub of Mercury. The mention of Rahu becomingfirst class significator for Mercury (because Rahu is in sub-sub ofMercury besides posited in own sub) I thought it in that way. I may beexcused if I am wrong. The imprtance of association of Rahu and Mercuryin that way has been emphasized because no planet occupies anyconstellation of Mercury. If the conception is correct then it needs tobe added to the list of significance of Nodes.> Nodes act for the planets conjoined with them> Nodes act for the planets that aspect them.> Nodes act for their constellation lord, Nodes act for the lord s ofSigns they occupy.> Nodes when in own constellation or sub then they act for the sub-sublord.> Could it be right?> 3. What you experience during Jupiter Antardasa?> a) Heart attack: - Houses concerned should be VI, VIII and XII.Planets -Mars. Sign-Leo.> b) Surgery: -All above minus leo sign.> c) Loss in business: -Houses concerned should be V, VIII, XII.> Let us limit to these issues for the present.> Now Jupiter is in a particular planet. Let us call it 'P'. If 'P'signifies the elements in a) then heart attack is a posibility.> If 'P' signifies elements of b) then you could have surgery duringJupiter period.> If 'P' signifies houses in c) you lose in business.> If 'P' negates the elements of any of the above three conditions youwill not experience that event.> If 'P' remains neutral the occuence of the event shall depend on otherperiod lords.>> I think accordingly other events can be excluded or confirmed. Transitof Jupiter has to be taken in to consideration.> Dr. Rath>>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> @gro ups.com> Friday, August 7, 2009 11:56:11 PM> Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD>>> Dear Luther ji,> I am still not sure what you mean by Bhukti. Does it mean Antardashaor pratyantardasha in your parlance.> I think there is some misunderstanding on your part. I have nowherementioned that Rahu is beneficial just because it is in sub-sub ofMercury. The whole context must be ready to understand this. What Imentioned was that- SinceRahu is in its own sub, then as per ShriSahasneji , we must move to the SubSub and consider it as the StarLordand check the results thereof. Here Rahu becomes the first classsignificator for Mercury in this manner, and additionally there is noPlanet in star of Mercury which emphasises this fact.> Now on your take of why RahuRahu is more beneficial than Mercury . Letme clarify that Rahu-Rahu was more beneficial in certain departments andRahu-Mer was more beneficial in other departments. There is nodefinition of what is "beneficial" . For some it is money, and forothers it is just fame because they already have money. And furthermorepeople if a dasha gives them both name and fame , then it is consideredas beneficial. Let me tell you that uptil now, Rahu-Rahu the wholeantardasha has been very much beneficial for me on all angles. This isnow coming to a close.> Can you guide me what to expect in antardasha of Jupiter which is nowexpected to begin in September ? Do i foresee a heart attack, Surgery ?Loss in business ? Or pregnancy to my first born ? Or loss of my mother? Or change of my residence ?> Since you are quite an active member on this Group, I would value yourcomments and if they do not confirm to my own, would like to discuss onthe astrological pointers presented by Your goodself.> regards/Bhaskar.>>>>> @gro ups.com, Luther Rath rathluther@ ..> wrote:> >> > Sir, In one argues that Rahu is beneficial because it is in sub-subof Mercury then the period ruled by Rahu and Mercury should have beenthe best. But according to you Rahu-Rahu was best. What do you thinkabout it? What could be other influences on either Rahu orMercury?Please analyse and throw some light when time permits.> > Dr. Rath> >> >> >> >> > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > @gro ups.com> > Thursday, August 6, 2009 8:08:58 PM> > Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD> >> >> >> > Dear Rath ji,> >> > I feel that Rahu-Rahu Bhukti was the best one.> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...>wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bhaskarji,> > > Can you recollect your life events during Rahu dasa- Rahu Bhukti;Rahu> > dasa-Mercury bhukti and Rahu dasa-kethu bhukti? And can you tell us> > which period was best of the three?> > > Dr. Rath> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > @gro ups.com> > > Tuesday, August 4, 2009 1:36:23 AM> > > Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD> > >> > >> > > Dear Friends,> > > Once I had gone to visit Shri Sahasneji with my own chart beforethe> > Rahu Mahadasha was to dawn in my Life. That was probably in 2006. I> > noticed that I had prepared my Chart from a Sofwtare which was very> > famous, but had a doubt in the SubLord position calculated thus. Onmy> > pointing this so, Mr.Sahashne took the trouble of taking out the> > Ephemeris and manually calculated the Degrees and the SubSubLordtoo.> > > Now the result -> > > Rahu in my Chart in Lagna in Leo, at 6.41.32 degrees in star ofKetu> > and in Sub of Rahu itself. He was very happy to see the SubSub Lordas> > Mercury. He mentioned that now you have hit the jackpot (Not exactly> > those words). I said why ? He answered because the SubSubLord is> > Mercury, and therefore rahu will give the results of Mercury,because> > you have to move one step further whenever you find the same planetas> > StarLord or SubLord. Apart from this, no planet in Mychart tenantsany> > of the Stars of Mercury, so Rahu becomes the first classsignificator> > for Mercury in my chart, who owns both the 2nd and the 11th house inmy> > Chart. Well frankly I did not believe him much at that time becauseI> > thought he was telling me this just to make me happy. (Later on in> > Lessons while Learning from him, he did point out to the studentsthat> > whenever you find any planet in its own star, you must treat the> > SubLord as the StarLord).> > > When Rahu Mahadasha entered my Life on January 2007, thingschanged> > for me dramatically. Most of my old debts were cleared upimmediately on> > dawn of Rahu Mahadasha. I was aired on the National Channel, I got a> > Contract from one of the Big companies for monthly assignments forwhich> > I was paid a respectable amount. All this happenned by itselfwithout me> > approaching anybody. My Life has changed much after the RahuMahadasha.> > I am comfortable today monetary wise if not rich. I have enough workand> > opportunities. The going is smooth with Lords Grace and Gurujis> > blessings.> > > For those interested my Birth details -> > > 28th June 1961. 10.15am Eluru 16.45N 81.09E (Near Vijaywada).> > > This principle is also mentioned partly in Chandrakant Bhatt'sBook -> > Nakshatra Chintamani.> > > best wishes,> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > > @gro ups.com, "tw853" tw853@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Friends,> > > > 1. This rule is discovered by Late Suresh Shahasane ji andcomment> > had been given before in the Message below.> > > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 16664> > > > 2. In honour of Late Suresh Shahasane ji, some tributes by his> > disciples will be published in the KPE-zine August 2009, which willbe> > posted very soon.> > > > Regards,> > > > tw> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com, "tw853" tw853@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > Such rule is not in the KP Readers and the Nodes rules are> > specifically set in KP, not like mentioned here.> > > > > Regards,> > > > > tw> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ >> > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Abhiji,> > > > > > Can you please give reference of the rule you havementioned. I> > am not able to recollect where it is. I want to go through theexample.> > It makes lots of difference to me.> > > > > > Regards.> > > > > > Dr. Rath.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > CA ABHI <abhica2004@ >> > > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > > Sunday, August 2, 2009 2:40:10 PM> > > > > > CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > HELLO ALL MEMBERS,> > > > > > AS PER KP RULE-> > > > > > WHEN A PLANET IS IN ITS OWN STR, THEN ITS SUB LORD WILL BE> > TREATED AS ITS WORKING STR LORD> > > > > > FOR EXAMPLE:> > > > > >> > > > > > PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD> > > > > > Ke Ke JU SA> > > > > > WHICH IS CORRECT :> > > > > > A PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD> > > > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU SA> > > > > > EVEN THOUGH,JU HAS BECOME THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD OF KE,> > > > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL REMAIN JU ITSELF> > > > > > B PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD> > > > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU/SA SA> > > > > > AS JU HAS BECOMES THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD,> > > > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL BE JU ITSELF OR> > > > > > SA WILL BECOME THE EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > CA ABHISHEK SHRIVASTAV> > > > > > MOB.NO.98272- 35856> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 DEAR BHASKARJI, WHEN A PLANE IS IN ITS OWN STAR, ITS SUB LORD WILL BECOME ITS EFFECTIVE STR LORD. BUT WHETHER IN SUCH CASE SUB SUB LORD WILL BECOME THE EFFECTIVE SUB LORD AS SUB LORD HAS BECOME THE STR LORD OR THE PLANET WHICH HAS BECOME THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD WILL ALSO REMAIN THE SUB LORD.THUS ONE PLKANET WILL ACT AS BOTH EFFECTIVE STR LORD AS WELL AS SUB LORD?? PLZ CLARIFY. Thanks & Regards, Sonali On Behalf Of Bhaskar Saturday, August 08, 2009 8:57 PM Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD Dear Shri Sujatkaram ji, I was talking about the same rule Sir. regards, Bhaskar. , " sujatkaram " <sujatkaram wrote: > > Respected Mr.Bhaskar, > Sir, > I am afraid I am a bit confused by reading your post.I am not able to understand what exactly you want to say. The inability must be mine. > I have studied the well-written book by late Mr. Shahasane and the rule mentioned in the book, as I understood it, is as follows:- > " If a planet is in its own star, then it gives the result of its sub-lord; and if a planet is in its own star as well as in its own sub;then it logically follows that it will give the result of its sub-sub-lord. " > Are you mentioning the same rule or a different one? > Please clarify. > regards, > sujatkaram. , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Luther ji, > > > > I am still not sure what you mean by Bhukti. Does it mean Antardasha or > > pratyantardasha in your parlance. > > > > I think there is some misunderstanding on your part. I have nowhere > > mentioned that Rahu is beneficial just because it is in sub-sub of > > Mercury. The whole context must be ready to understand this. What I > > mentioned was that- SinceRahu is in its own sub, then as per Shri > > Sahasneji , we must move to the SubSub and consider it as the StarLord > > and check the results thereof. Here Rahu becomes the first class > > significator for Mercury in this manner, and additionally there is no > > Planet in star of Mercury which emphasises this fact. > > > > Now on your take of why RahuRahu is more beneficial than Mercury . Let > > me clarify that Rahu-Rahu was more beneficial in certain departments and > > Rahu-Mer was more beneficial in other departments. There is no > > definition of what is " beneficial " . For some it is money, and for > > others it is just fame because they already have money. And furthermore > > people if a dasha gives them both name and fame , then it is considered > > as beneficial. Let me tell you that uptil now, Rahu-Rahu the whole > > antardasha has been very much beneficial for me on all angles. This is > > now coming to a close. > > > > Can you guide me what to expect in antardasha of Jupiter which is now > > expected to begin in September ? Do i foresee a heart attack, Surgery ? > > Loss in business ? Or pregnancy to my first born ? Or loss of my mother > > ? Or change of my residence ? > > > > Since you are quite an active member on this Group, I would value your > > comments and if they do not confirm to my own, would like to discuss on > > the astrological pointers presented by Your goodself. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Luther Rath <rathluther@> wrote: > > > > > > Sir, In one argues that Rahu is beneficial because it is in sub-sub of > > Mercury then the period ruled by Rahu and Mercury should have been the > > best. But according to you Rahu-Rahu was best. What do you think about > > it? What could be other influences on either Rahu or Mercury?Please > > analyse and throw some light when time permits. > > > Dr. Rath > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > Thursday, August 6, 2009 8:08:58 PM > > > Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rath ji, > > > > > > I feel that Rahu-Rahu Bhukti was the best one. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ....> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > Can you recollect your life events during Rahu dasa- Rahu Bhukti; > > Rahu > > > dasa-Mercury bhukti and Rahu dasa-kethu bhukti? And can you tell us > > > which period was best of the three? > > > > Dr. Rath > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Tuesday, August 4, 2009 1:36:23 AM > > > > Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > Once I had gone to visit Shri Sahasneji with my own chart before the > > > Rahu Mahadasha was to dawn in my Life. That was probably in 2006. I > > > noticed that I had prepared my Chart from a Sofwtare which was very > > > famous, but had a doubt in the SubLord position calculated thus. On my > > > pointing this so, Mr.Sahashne took the trouble of taking out the > > > Ephemeris and manually calculated the Degrees and the SubSubLord too. > > > > Now the result - > > > > Rahu in my Chart in Lagna in Leo, at 6.41.32 degrees in star of Ketu > > > and in Sub of Rahu itself. He was very happy to see the SubSub Lord as > > > Mercury. He mentioned that now you have hit the jackpot (Not exactly > > > those words). I said why ? He answered because the SubSubLord is > > > Mercury, and therefore rahu will give the results of Mercury, because > > > you have to move one step further whenever you find the same planet as > > > StarLord or SubLord. Apart from this, no planet in Mychart tenants any > > > of the Stars of Mercury, so Rahu becomes the first class significator > > > for Mercury in my chart, who owns both the 2nd and the 11th house in > > my > > > Chart. Well frankly I did not believe him much at that time because I > > > thought he was telling me this just to make me happy. (Later on in > > > Lessons while Learning from him, he did point out to the students that > > > whenever you find any planet in its own star, you must treat the > > > SubLord as the StarLord). > > > > When Rahu Mahadasha entered my Life on January 2007, things changed > > > for me dramatically. Most of my old debts were cleared up immediately > > on > > > dawn of Rahu Mahadasha. I was aired on the National Channel, I got a > > > Contract from one of the Big companies for monthly assignments for > > which > > > I was paid a respectable amount. All this happenned by itself without > > me > > > approaching anybody. My Life has changed much after the Rahu > > Mahadasha. > > > I am comfortable today monetary wise if not rich. I have enough work > > and > > > opportunities. The going is smooth with Lords Grace and Gurujis > > > blessings. > > > > For those interested my Birth details - > > > > 28th June 1961. 10.15am Eluru 16.45N 81.09E (Near Vijaywada). > > > > This principle is also mentioned partly in Chandrakant Bhatt's Book > > - > > > Nakshatra Chintamani. > > > > best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " tw853 " tw853@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > 1. This rule is discovered by Late Suresh Shahasane ji and comment > > > had been given before in the Message below. > > > > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 16664 > > > > > 2. In honour of Late Suresh Shahasane ji, some tributes by his > > > disciples will be published in the KPE-zine August 2009, which will be > > > posted very soon. > > > > > Regards, > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " tw853 " tw853@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > Such rule is not in the KP Readers and the Nodes rules are > > > specifically set in KP, not like mentioned here. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Abhiji, > > > > > > > Can you please give reference of the rule you have mentioned. > > I > > > am not able to recollect where it is. I want to go through the > > example. > > > It makes lots of difference to me. > > > > > > > Regards. > > > > > > > Dr. Rath. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > CA ABHI <abhica2004@ > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > Sunday, August 2, 2009 2:40:10 PM > > > > > > > CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HELLO ALL MEMBERS, > > > > > > > AS PER KP RULE- > > > > > > > WHEN A PLANET IS IN ITS OWN STR, THEN ITS SUB LORD WILL BE > > > TREATED AS ITS WORKING STR LORD > > > > > > > FOR EXAMPLE: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > > > > > Ke Ke JU SA > > > > > > > WHICH IS CORRECT : > > > > > > > A PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > > > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU SA > > > > > > > EVEN THOUGH,JU HAS BECOME THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD OF KE, > > > > > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL REMAIN JU ITSELF > > > > > > > B PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > > > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU/SA SA > > > > > > > AS JU HAS BECOMES THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD, > > > > > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL BE JU ITSELF OR > > > > > > > SA WILL BECOME THE EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CA ABHISHEK SHRIVASTAV > > > > > > > MOB.NO.98272- 35856 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 Dear Sonaliji, Your mail has put me in a fix. I cannot honestly reply you correctly of what has been asked of me. WHEN A PLANE IS IN ITS OWN STAR, ITS SUB LORD WILL BECOME ITS EFFECTIVE STR LORD. Yes that is what I have been taught by My Guru. perhaps others may have learnt otherwise. What is correct for each to percieve on his own. BUT WHETHER IN SUCH CASE SUB SUB LORD WILL BECOME THE EFFECTIVE SUB LORD AS SUB LORD HAS BECOME THE STR LORD I am not able to understand what you are mentioning. And even if I understand I may not be able to answer this convincingly. OR THE PLANET WHICH HAS BECOME THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD WILL ALSO REMAIN THE SUB LORD.THUS ONE PLKANET WILL ACT AS BOTH EFFECTIVE STR LORD AS WELL AS SUB LORD?? What example I had give was my own chart. Here the SubLord was the same as the planet. Hence the SubSubLord was taken to represent the actual results. The example of my Birth Chart is a unique one and not to be seen daily, so I advise the astrologers not to go toomuch in the subsubLord business unless they find unique combinations as mentioned in my chart. There are many rules which have yet to be tested on many Horoscopes of the same type, to be actually considered in reality as a "Rule". Till the time this happens, what is working and good for me, I would consider it as a rule for me, though cannot declare this as so, in absence of having tested this on at least 50 Horoscopes of same category. The KP astrologers if they are able to predict correctly even with the SubLords, it will be a great feat for them. I think going further than that is not the ball game of novices and must be restricted to only experts who have already proved themselves to their ownselves of being able to predict correctly with SubLords. They must previous to this learn to rectify the SubLords otherwise no meaning in talking of SubLords and what happens or the application part. Most of the times the Natal Charts of natives come up for study and in those cases, it is the duty of the astrologer to check whether the subLord is right. If they can do that, and predict correctly, they have reached the peak of the Himalayas. If they cant do that they have no business to talk about SubSublords. Hence my advise to all, is to first learn to rectify the Sublord and then predict from the same in Natal Charts, though in Horary Charts this rectification business can be dispensed with, as they would be perfect. Forget about SubSubLords. there is no limit to this. This is not everyones cup of tea. I believe only a few seniors here are eligible to judge the results of the same, like Shri YogeshRao Lajmi ji, Shri Tinwinji, Shri Sunil Gondhlekar ji, Shri Lutherji ,and many more etc. and among the new junior lot of astrologers like Shri Punit Pandeyji, Adithji, Ajoy ji etc. (Sorry I am not regular on this Forum so forgive me for the names I have not mentioned here). regards and best wishes, Bhaskar. , SONALI <sonali.me.2009 wrote:>> DEAR BHASKARJI,> > > > WHEN A PLANE IS IN ITS OWN STAR, ITS SUB LORD WILL BECOME ITS EFFECTIVE STR> LORD.> > > > BUT WHETHER IN SUCH CASE SUB SUB LORD WILL BECOME THE EFFECTIVE SUB LORD AS> SUB LORD HAS BECOME THE STR LORD> > > > OR THE PLANET WHICH HAS BECOME THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD WILL ALSO REMAIN THE> SUB LORD.THUS ONE PLKANET WILL ACT AS BOTH EFFECTIVE STR LORD AS WELL AS SUB> LORD??> > > > PLZ CLARIFY.> > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > > > Sonali> > > > On> Behalf Of Bhaskar> Saturday, August 08, 2009 8:57 PM> > Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD> > > > > > > Dear Shri Sujatkaram ji,> > I was talking about the same rule Sir.> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > <%40> ,> "sujatkaram" sujatkaram@ wrote:> >> > Respected Mr.Bhaskar,> > Sir,> > I am afraid I am a bit confused by reading your post.I am not able to> understand what exactly you want to say. The inability must be mine.> > I have studied the well-written book by late Mr. Shahasane and the> rule mentioned in the book, as I understood it, is as follows:-> > "If a planet is in its own star, then it gives the result of its> sub-lord; and if a planet is in its own star as well as in its own> sub;then it logically follows that it will give the result of its> sub-sub-lord."> > Are you mentioning the same rule or a different one?> > Please clarify.> > regards,> > sujatkaram. > <%40> , "Bhaskar"> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Luther ji,> > >> > > I am still not sure what you mean by Bhukti. Does it mean Antardasha> or> > > pratyantardasha in your parlance.> > >> > > I think there is some misunderstanding on your part. I have nowhere> > > mentioned that Rahu is beneficial just because it is in sub-sub of> > > Mercury. The whole context must be ready to understand this. What I> > > mentioned was that- SinceRahu is in its own sub, then as per Shri> > > Sahasneji , we must move to the SubSub and consider it as the> StarLord> > > and check the results thereof. Here Rahu becomes the first class> > > significator for Mercury in this manner, and additionally there is> no> > > Planet in star of Mercury which emphasises this fact.> > >> > > Now on your take of why RahuRahu is more beneficial than Mercury .> Let> > > me clarify that Rahu-Rahu was more beneficial in certain departments> and> > > Rahu-Mer was more beneficial in other departments. There is no> > > definition of what is "beneficial" . For some it is money, and for> > > others it is just fame because they already have money. And> furthermore> > > people if a dasha gives them both name and fame , then it is> considered> > > as beneficial. Let me tell you that uptil now, Rahu-Rahu the whole> > > antardasha has been very much beneficial for me on all angles. This> is> > > now coming to a close.> > >> > > Can you guide me what to expect in antardasha of Jupiter which is> now> > > expected to begin in September ? Do i foresee a heart attack,> Surgery ?> > > Loss in business ? Or pregnancy to my first born ? Or loss of my> mother> > > ? Or change of my residence ?> > >> > > Since you are quite an active member on this Group, I would value> your> > > comments and if they do not confirm to my own, would like to discuss> on> > > the astrological pointers presented by Your goodself.> > >> > > regards/Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > <%40>> , Luther Rath <rathluther@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Sir, In one argues that Rahu is beneficial because it is in> sub-sub of> > > Mercury then the period ruled by Rahu and Mercury should have been> the> > > best. But according to you Rahu-Rahu was best. What do you think> about> > > it? What could be other influences on either Rahu or Mercury?Please> > > analyse and throw some light when time permits.> > > > Dr. Rath> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ________________________________> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > <%40> > > > > Thursday, August 6, 2009 8:08:58 PM> > > > Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Rath ji,> > > >> > > > I feel that Rahu-Rahu Bhukti was the best one.> > > >> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...>> > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Bhaskarji,> > > > > Can you recollect your life events during Rahu dasa- Rahu> Bhukti;> > > Rahu> > > > dasa-Mercury bhukti and Rahu dasa-kethu bhukti? And can you tell> us> > > > which period was best of the three?> > > > > Dr. Rath> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > Tuesday, August 4, 2009 1:36:23 AM> > > > > Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > Once I had gone to visit Shri Sahasneji with my own chart before> the> > > > Rahu Mahadasha was to dawn in my Life. That was probably in 2006.> I> > > > noticed that I had prepared my Chart from a Sofwtare which was> very> > > > famous, but had a doubt in the SubLord position calculated thus.> On my> > > > pointing this so, Mr.Sahashne took the trouble of taking out the> > > > Ephemeris and manually calculated the Degrees and the SubSubLord> too.> > > > > Now the result -> > > > > Rahu in my Chart in Lagna in Leo, at 6.41.32 degrees in star of> Ketu> > > > and in Sub of Rahu itself. He was very happy to see the SubSub> Lord as> > > > Mercury. He mentioned that now you have hit the jackpot (Not> exactly> > > > those words). I said why ? He answered because the SubSubLord is> > > > Mercury, and therefore rahu will give the results of Mercury,> because> > > > you have to move one step further whenever you find the same> planet as> > > > StarLord or SubLord. Apart from this, no planet in Mychart tenants> any> > > > of the Stars of Mercury, so Rahu becomes the first class> significator> > > > for Mercury in my chart, who owns both the 2nd and the 11th house> in> > > my> > > > Chart. Well frankly I did not believe him much at that time> because I> > > > thought he was telling me this just to make me happy. (Later on in> > > > Lessons while Learning from him, he did point out to the students> that> > > > whenever you find any planet in its own star, you must treat the> > > > SubLord as the StarLord).> > > > > When Rahu Mahadasha entered my Life on January 2007, things> changed> > > > for me dramatically. Most of my old debts were cleared up> immediately> > > on> > > > dawn of Rahu Mahadasha. I was aired on the National Channel, I got> a> > > > Contract from one of the Big companies for monthly assignments for> > > which> > > > I was paid a respectable amount. All this happenned by itself> without> > > me> > > > approaching anybody. My Life has changed much after the Rahu> > > Mahadasha.> > > > I am comfortable today monetary wise if not rich. I have enough> work> > > and> > > > opportunities. The going is smooth with Lords Grace and Gurujis> > > > blessings.> > > > > For those interested my Birth details -> > > > > 28th June 1961. 10.15am Eluru 16.45N 81.09E (Near Vijaywada).> > > > > This principle is also mentioned partly in Chandrakant Bhatt's> Book> > > -> > > > Nakshatra Chintamani.> > > > > best wishes,> > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > @gro ups.com, "tw853" tw853@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > 1. This rule is discovered by Late Suresh Shahasane ji and> comment> > > > had been given before in the Message below.> > > > > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 16664> > > > > > 2. In honour of Late Suresh Shahasane ji, some tributes by his> > > > disciples will be published in the KPE-zine August 2009, which> will be> > > > posted very soon.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > tw> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > @gro ups.com, "tw853" tw853@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > Such rule is not in the KP Readers and the Nodes rules are> > > > specifically set in KP, not like mentioned here.> > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > tw> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@> >> > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Abhiji,> > > > > > > > Can you please give reference of the rule you have> mentioned.> > > I> > > > am not able to recollect where it is. I want to go through the> > > example.> > > > It makes lots of difference to me.> > > > > > > > Regards.> > > > > > > > Dr. Rath.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > > CA ABHI <abhica2004@ >> > > > > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > > > > Sunday, August 2, 2009 2:40:10 PM> > > > > > > > CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB> LORD> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > HELLO ALL MEMBERS,> > > > > > > > AS PER KP RULE-> > > > > > > > WHEN A PLANET IS IN ITS OWN STR, THEN ITS SUB LORD WILL BE> > > > TREATED AS ITS WORKING STR LORD> > > > > > > > FOR EXAMPLE:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD> > > > > > > > Ke Ke JU SA> > > > > > > > WHICH IS CORRECT :> > > > > > > > A PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD> > > > > > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU SA> > > > > > > > EVEN THOUGH,JU HAS BECOME THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD OF KE,> > > > > > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL REMAIN JU ITSELF> > > > > > > > B PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD> > > > > > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU/SA SA> > > > > > > > AS JU HAS BECOMES THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD,> > > > > > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL BE JU ITSELF OR> > > > > > > > SA WILL BECOME THE EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > CA ABHISHEK SHRIVASTAV> > > > > > > > MOB.NO.98272- 35856> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Dear Sujatha, When there is a small error in planet position or in the inputs used for calculating the CUSP will give wrong shooka, prana, Deha sub. So becareful when you try to use the same. GOOD LUCK! Thanks D.Senthil --- On Fri, 8/7/09, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha wrote: Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparanthaRe: Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 4:53 AM Dear Sujatha JiThe Subs detail u are expecting to see can be seen in JHL SW.they are Nakshastra LordSub Lord,Prati Sub,Shookshama SubPrana Sub & Deha SubBut I too don't have a knowledge to see the effects of all those SubsRegdsKalyan Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>@gro ups.comThursday, August 6, 2009 10:05:37 PM Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD Dear Sujata ji,// I don't have software to generate sub sub sub. //I too do not have knowledge about sub sub sub , what to do with them,and how to use them for predictions, so please excuse me here. About theStar Lords and the SubLords you are a very old member here, so I neednot mention the same.regards/Bhaskar.@gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Bhasker> This is interesting. My mars is in mars star and own sub and Ra subsub.My mer is in mer sub and mer sub sub. Ra is in ke star ra sub and rasub sub> I don't have software to generate sub sub sub. If u have the softwarewould u let me know the effective star lord and sub of mars, ra, mer ?My dob is 5-5-55, Tob is 9-37 pm, pob is delhi> Regards> Sujata>>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> @gro ups.com> Tuesday, 4 August, 2009 1:36:23 AM> Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD>>> Dear Friends,> Once I had gone to visit Shri Sahasneji with my own chart before theRahu Mahadasha was to dawn in my Life. That was probably in 2006. Inoticed that I had prepared my Chart from a Sofwtare which was veryfamous, but had a doubt in the SubLord position calculated thus. On mypointing this so, Mr.Sahashne took the trouble of taking out theEphemeris and manually calculated the Degrees and the SubSubLord too.> Now the result -> Rahu in my Chart in Lagna in Leo, at 6.41.32 degrees in star of Ketuand in Sub of Rahu itself. He was very happy to see the SubSub Lord asMercury. He mentioned that now you have hit the jackpot (Not exactlythose words). I said why ? He answered because the SubSubLord isMercury, and therefore rahu will give the results of Mercury, becauseyou have to move one step further whenever you find the same planet asStarLord or SubLord. Apart from this, no planet in Mychart tenants anyof the Stars of Mercury, so Rahu becomes the first class significatorfor Mercury in my chart, who owns both the 2nd and the 11th house in myChart. Well frankly I did not believe him much at that time because Ithought he was telling me this just to make me happy. (Later on inLessons while Learning from him, he did point out to the students thatwhenever you find any planet in its own star, you must treat the SubLordas the StarLord).> When Rahu Mahadasha entered my Life on January 2007, things changedfor me dramatically. Most of my old debts were cleared up immediately ondawn of Rahu Mahadasha. I was aired on the National Channel, I got aContract from one of the Big companies for monthly assignments for whichI was paid a respectable amount. All this happenned by itself without meapproaching anybody. My Life has changed much after the Rahu Mahadasha.I am comfortable today monetary wise if not rich. I have enough work andopportunities. The going is smooth with Lords Grace and Gurujisblessings.> For those interested my Birth details -> 28th June 1961. 10.15am Eluru 16.45N 81.09E (Near Vijaywada).> This principle is also mentioned partly in Chandrakant Bhatt's Book -Nakshatra Chintamani.> best wishes,> Bhaskar.>>>> --- In @gro ups.com, "tw853" tw853@ wrote:> >> > Dear Friends,> > 1. This rule is discovered by Late Suresh Shahasane ji and commenthad been given before in the Message below.> > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 16664> > 2. In honour of Late Suresh Shahasane ji, some tributes by hisdisciples will be published in the KPE-zine August 2009, which will beposted very soon.> > Regards,> > tw> >> >> >> > @gro ups.com, "tw853" tw853@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Friends,> > > Such rule is not in the KP Readers and the Nodes rules arespecifically set in KP, not like mentioned here.> > > Regards,> > > tw> > >> > >> > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ >wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Abhiji,> > > > Can you please give reference of the rule you have mentioned. Iam not able to recollect where it is. I want to go through the example.It makes lots of difference to me.> > > > Regards.> > > > Dr. Rath.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > CA ABHI <abhica2004@ >> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Sunday, August 2, 2009 2:40:10 PM> > > > CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > HELLO ALL MEMBERS,> > > > AS PER KP RULE-> > > > WHEN A PLANET IS IN ITS OWN STR, THEN ITS SUB LORD WILL BETREATED AS ITS WORKING STR LORD> > > > FOR EXAMPLE:> > > >> > > > PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD> > > > Ke Ke JU SA> > > > WHICH IS CORRECT :> > > > A PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD> > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU SA> > > > EVEN THOUGH,JU HAS BECOME THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD OF KE,> > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL REMAIN JU ITSELF> > > > B PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD> > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU/SA SA> > > > AS JU HAS BECOMES THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD,> > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL BE JU ITSELF OR> > > > SA WILL BECOME THE EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > >> > > > CA ABHISHEK SHRIVASTAV> > > > MOB.NO.98272- 35856> > > >> > > >> > >> >>>>>> Looking for local information? 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Guest guest Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Dear Sujata ji, 1. Here is what you're asking for to try Sahashne ji's rule when a planet is in its own star or sub. Plt Stl Sbl Ssl Sssl Ma- Ma -Ma -Ra -Sa Me- Su -Me -Me -Ve Ve- Me -Ve -Ma -Su Ra- Ke -Ra -Ra -Sa (F,05/05/1955,9:37PM,Delhi,28N36,'77E10,NKPA 23':08:36,Asc Sc '26:05:03', KPAstro 3.1) 2. For one minute difference in the Moon position of birth chart, the difference in the Dasa balance at birth is from 2.7 days foe Sun Dasa balance to 9 days for Venus Dasa balance, in your case 8.1 days for Rahu Dasa balance at birth, which will give the same difference in all dasa levels, DBAS and further sub sub. Regards, tw , Senthil <athi_ram wrote: > > Dear Sujatha, > > When there is a small error in planet position or in the inputs used for calculating the CUSP will give wrong shooka, prana, Deha sub. So becareful when you try to use the same. > > GOOD LUCK! > > Thanks > > D.Senthil > > > --- On Fri, 8/7/09, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha wrote: > > > Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha > Re: Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD > > Friday, August 7, 2009, 4:53 AM > > > > > > > > > Dear Sujatha Ji > > The Subs detail u are expecting to see can be seen in JHL SW. > they are > Nakshastra Lord > Sub Lord, > Prati Sub, > Shookshama Sub > Prana Sub > & Deha Sub > > But I too don't have a knowledge to see the effects of all those Subs > > Regds > > Kalyan Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > @gro ups.com > Thursday, August 6, 2009 10:05:37 PM > Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD > > > > > Dear Sujata ji, > > // I don't have software to generate sub sub sub. // > > I too do not have knowledge about sub sub sub , what to do with them, > and how to use them for predictions, so please excuse me here. About the > Star Lords and the SubLords you are a very old member here, so I need > not mention the same. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > @gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhasker > > This is interesting. My mars is in mars star and own sub and Ra sub > sub.My mer is in mer sub and mer sub sub. Ra is in ke star ra sub and ra > sub sub > > I don't have software to generate sub sub sub. If u have the software > would u let me know the effective star lord and sub of mars, ra, mer ? > My dob is 5-5-55, Tob is 9-37 pm, pob is delhi > > Regards > > Sujata > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > @gro ups.com > > Tuesday, 4 August, 2009 1:36:23 AM > > Re: CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > Once I had gone to visit Shri Sahasneji with my own chart before the > Rahu Mahadasha was to dawn in my Life. That was probably in 2006. I > noticed that I had prepared my Chart from a Sofwtare which was very > famous, but had a doubt in the SubLord position calculated thus. On my > pointing this so, Mr.Sahashne took the trouble of taking out the > Ephemeris and manually calculated the Degrees and the SubSubLord too. > > Now the result - > > Rahu in my Chart in Lagna in Leo, at 6.41.32 degrees in star of Ketu > and in Sub of Rahu itself. He was very happy to see the SubSub Lord as > Mercury. He mentioned that now you have hit the jackpot (Not exactly > those words). I said why ? He answered because the SubSubLord is > Mercury, and therefore rahu will give the results of Mercury, because > you have to move one step further whenever you find the same planet as > StarLord or SubLord. Apart from this, no planet in Mychart tenants any > of the Stars of Mercury, so Rahu becomes the first class significator > for Mercury in my chart, who owns both the 2nd and the 11th house in my > Chart. Well frankly I did not believe him much at that time because I > thought he was telling me this just to make me happy. (Later on in > Lessons while Learning from him, he did point out to the students that > whenever you find any planet in its own star, you must treat the SubLord > as the StarLord). > > When Rahu Mahadasha entered my Life on January 2007, things changed > for me dramatically. Most of my old debts were cleared up immediately on > dawn of Rahu Mahadasha. I was aired on the National Channel, I got a > Contract from one of the Big companies for monthly assignments for which > I was paid a respectable amount. All this happenned by itself without me > approaching anybody. My Life has changed much after the Rahu Mahadasha. > I am comfortable today monetary wise if not rich. I have enough work and > opportunities. The going is smooth with Lords Grace and Gurujis > blessings. > > For those interested my Birth details - > > 28th June 1961. 10.15am Eluru 16.45N 81.09E (Near Vijaywada). > > This principle is also mentioned partly in Chandrakant Bhatt's Book - > Nakshatra Chintamani. > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " tw853 " tw853@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > 1. This rule is discovered by Late Suresh Shahasane ji and comment > had been given before in the Message below. > > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 16664 > > > 2. In honour of Late Suresh Shahasane ji, some tributes by his > disciples will be published in the KPE-zine August 2009, which will be > posted very soon. > > > Regards, > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " tw853 " tw853@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > Such rule is not in the KP Readers and the Nodes rules are > specifically set in KP, not like mentioned here. > > > > Regards, > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Abhiji, > > > > > Can you please give reference of the rule you have mentioned. I > am not able to recollect where it is. I want to go through the example. > It makes lots of difference to me. > > > > > Regards. > > > > > Dr. Rath. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > CA ABHI <abhica2004@ > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Sunday, August 2, 2009 2:40:10 PM > > > > > CLARIFY -EFFECTIVE STR LORD & SUB LORD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HELLO ALL MEMBERS, > > > > > AS PER KP RULE- > > > > > WHEN A PLANET IS IN ITS OWN STR, THEN ITS SUB LORD WILL BE > TREATED AS ITS WORKING STR LORD > > > > > FOR EXAMPLE: > > > > > > > > > > PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > > > Ke Ke JU SA > > > > > WHICH IS CORRECT : > > > > > A PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU SA > > > > > EVEN THOUGH,JU HAS BECOME THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD OF KE, > > > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL REMAIN JU ITSELF > > > > > B PLANET STR LORD SUB LORD SUB SUB LORD > > > > > Ke Ke/JU* JU/SA SA > > > > > AS JU HAS BECOMES THE EFFECTIVE STR LORD, > > > > > EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE WILL BE JU ITSELF OR > > > > > SA WILL BECOME THE EFFECTIVE SUB LORD OF KE > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CA ABHISHEK SHRIVASTAV > > > > > MOB.NO.98272- 35856 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for local information? 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