Guest guest Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Friends Rectification of Birth time is not the theory. Anyone who shows that he has invented/discovered this, may be false interpration of the fact. By studying traditional astrology including Nadi granthas, western astrologies as well as other astrological scieences, shri KSK derived certain clues and it formed it in specific manner. There were no specific method of identifying correctness of time. But by performing Lord Uchist Mahaganapathi Pooja, Shri KSK achieved this unvaluable missing link and that was ruling planets. while practising astrology, he came to know that ruling planets at the time of the query will be availale at the time of fructification of the event. He further added that ruling planets of the time of query will reflect the time of birth of the concerned jatakas and accordingly he discovered special theory of rectification of birth time. Ruling planets include 1. Ascendent Constellation Lord 2. Ascendent Sign Lord 3. Chandra Constellation Lord 4. Chandra Sign lord 5. Day lord It also includes at No. 3 i.e. Ascendent Sub lord and at Sr.No. 5 i.e. Chandra Sub lord. To choose the signification of ruling planets in rectification of birth time is the only intuition of the astrologer who first time rectifies the time of birth of the jataka. It will not miss. If afterwards, any learned astrologer found that ruling planets taken for rectification of birth time may weak in strength but at the time of rectification of birth time that planet taken by the astrologer will never give wrong clue. As at that time, it is having certainlink with the astrologer and jataka. So try to adopt this method and rectify the time of birth. But donot take jatakas kundalis for rectification of birth when you have no proper study and confidence. Kundlis taken for practice perpose for rectification of birth time will not give correct clues as there is no proper application of rules regarding the ruling planets as well as rectification of birth time. If you observe any doubt then not only you will find yourself in probnlem but the jataka will also find in any problem. Vijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision, The Scientific Society for Research and Devt.in Astrology, Kolhapur cell : +91 9422582853/+91 9673746303 On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:25:50 +0530 wrote > Dear Shri Pandeyji, I earnestly request you to emethod oflaborate your own theory of BTR with and example of your choice for the befit of members, as we are very much confused wsith several methods of BTR by several astrologers with no one coming forth with unanimity. If your method of BTR gives fairly accurate result, it woud be a boon to members. Kindly oblige. Truly yours, K.S.V.Ramani - Punit Pandey Saturday, August 15, 2009 9:56 PM Re: Re: Corrct Birth Time > Dear Dharmendra ji, I have my own theory of BTRwhich can correct birth time up to fraction of second. What is the proof? Is there any? My point is that claiming that "Expertis in the subject and on the basis of Cusp Interlinks Theory you cancan correcthoroscopeupto seconds." is very easy without any proof. Proving a theory is difficult and till today I have not seen "a single successful prediction" in this forum using Cuspal Interlinks. Please see my earlieremail to you /message/26318and want to remind you to participate in the quiz. I can assure you that we will not be juding by single quiz, as I can understand that there are many variables in a successful predictions. But someone need to try "Cuspal Interlinks" to put it forward. This quiz and coming quizzes will be good opportunity to show what is cuspal interlink theory all about. Just saying is not enough in astrology. I would again request to follower to all the systems to participate in the quizzes. This will give us good opportunity to see what works and what doesn't. Thanks Regards, > >Punit Pandey > > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Dharmendra Kumar wrote: > Dear members! Most of the Horoscopes prepared on the basis of recorded Birth Time need rectification. Twins can born within seconds and hence the accuracy is must. The true horoscope has to be unique for each individual. It should simulate conditions to reflect the natives individuality, personality, state of health, longevity, virtues, name fame, capacity to face struggle of life, social, financial, marital, educational as well as professional status. It is therefore, imperative that we need to place the correct degree, minutes and seconds on each of the 12 cuspal positions. What the Time of Birth is known to you may be correct generally. However, the time that the incarnating soul chooses to take possession of a particular body in a particular family in a particular circumstances based on its past karmas is called the Astrological Birth Time. Medical staffs have no capacity to know this. It is the responsibility of the Astrologer to fix it and construct the True Horoscope of the native. To construct a true natal chart itself tests the capability and patience of the astrologer. It is an Herculean task. Expertis in the subject and on the basis of Cusp Interlinks Theory you cancan correcthoroscopeupto seconds. > > Thanks, >D K B >Mob.: 91-9910048040 > > "Only GOOD is not Enough, When you Dream of being GREAT." > >--- On Sat, 15/8/09, Luther Rath wrote: > > Luther Rath >Re: Re: Corrct Birth Time > > Saturday, 15 August, 2009, 6:34 AM > > Dear Sujataji, Good Morning. A baby born dead will never recover. Where is the necesity of abirth time or horoscope? Still born baby means the baby is alive but does not take respiration. It may recover after resusitation and live healthy. Some times it may not. Now it is up to the individual astrologer which time you accept as real birth time, the time when the baby comes out of the woumb or the time when it respires. Controversy still exists among seniors too. Dr. Rath > > sujata das > @gro ups.com >Friday, August 14, 2009 4:02:12 PM > Re: Re: Corrct Birth Time > > Dear Lajmiji >What are the lagna's significations of a still-born (dead) child? Will it be wrong to call it a birth ? >Regards >Sujata > > Yogesh Lajmi >@gro ups.com >Cc: tw853 com> > Friday, 14 August, 2009 2:18:00 AM >Re: Re: Corrct Birth Time > > Dear TW, Pl. desist from justifying wrong interpretations made by you...using wrong rferences just to justify your wrong statement... PLEASE RE READ K.P. READERS... If what Satyacharya and you say is corect,how do you know whether the child is alive or not ? ? ! Yogesh Lajmi GOOD LUCK ! > > tw853 >@gro ups.com >Friday, August 14, 2009 8:19:46 AM > Re: Corrct Birth Time > > Dear Friends, >1. Since Guruji KSK wrote in p 88 first para of KP Reader VI, that the birth time is "the moment the whole body of the child has got separated from that of mother", how come one is still saying "first cry" is the KP birth time said by Guruji KSK.. >2.. It is the same as said by Satyacharya in Satya Jatakam, that there are three moments which can be taken as birth time: >1) Adhana lagna the moment of conception >2) Siro darshana lagna when the head becomes visible >3) Bhu patana lagna when the body touches the earth >As the first two moments are hard to ascertain, he said to take the third one only. In earlier days women in India didn't lay down to give birth but squatted holding on to a rope or other means of support during the labor. Hence when the child actually came out of the body it would touch the earth and that was recorded as the time of birth, i.e the time when the baby's body wholly leaves the mother's body. >3. In the experience of Sunaparantha ji and Vijhay ji, birth time in the hospital BC is not the first cry. >Regards, >tw > >@gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi wrote: >> >> Dear Tin Win, >> I am sorry Tin Win,I cannot agree with you at all...the body of a child can get completely separated from the mother,even if it not alive...a still-born child...that is why we must take the time of the first cry/first breath,ensuring that the child is alive...! >> Further,you are quoting from whatever is written which applies only to a horary chart...and ONLY to the erection of a horary chart... ! ! >> Also, the VIth reader(11th Edition,2007) ,deals with ONLY Horary Astrology... . ! ! ! >> As per our late Guruji, one cannot rely upon the Time of Birth given by the mother/doctor/ midwife etc for a variety of reasons...however, the time of te first cry of the child is the time closest to that of his first breath... >> That is to be taken as the exact TOB...if such a noting is not possible,then note down the Ruling Planets at the timeof sitting for analysis,and find out the sign,star,sub, sub-sub of the Moon...and as given above in a seperate note,and then insert these in the place of Signlord,starlord, sublord,subsublo rd of the ASCENDANT and adjust the time to arrive at theEXACT TOB....a reference to Guruji's daughter telling a caller on the phone his Birth star within a few seconds....( using this method) is given in K.P. Reader VI,p.138,itsef. .... >> When I was studying K.P., Revered Guruji KSK,used to give numerous such examplesto students present in the class...especially while discussing Ruling Planets and their importance.. . >> Pl. do not forget,that it was this very discovery made Guruji and K.P., famous...! ! >> Pl refer to my note a few days ago on this very site...on the same subject... >> With kind regards, >> Yogesh Lajmi. >> >> GOOD LUCK. ! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ____________ _________ _________ __ >> tw853 >> @gro ups.com >> Wednesday, August 12, 2009 5:42:34 PM >> Re: Corrct Birth Time >> >> >> Dear Sunaparantha ji, >> 1. This group has been misinformed the 'first cry' to be the KP birth time mentioned by Guruji KSK. >> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 23074 >> http://groups. / / group/k_p_ system/message/ 2318 >> 2. The birth time what really mentioned by Guruji KSK is "the moment the whole body of the child has got separated from that of mother" in p 88 first para of KP Reader VI, as you had experienced. >> Regards, >> tw >> >> @gro ups.com, Sunaparantha Kalyan ....> wrote: >> > >> > Dear all Friends. >> > >> > As all you know last Sunday I was under an Eye Surgery in a Nursing Home. >> > There I had a rare chance to decide (hear) the correct Birth Time of a new born baby with his first crying in this world. >> > I was taken in to the Operation Theater preparation room at 8.00 am. At that time there were some patients who were prepared for surgeries. Among them I saw an expecting lady prepared on a trolley and while I was preparing for my surgery by a Sister by applying some medicine in to my eyes I saw that lady was taking in to the theater. >> > >> > After about 15 minutes time I saw with my half naked eyes(due to medicine) a Sister was taking something like a piece of wood by her hand and kept it on a lighted machine which was in my front and sooner I was able to identify what the sister has brought. It is a naked body of a new born Baby. I was difficult to see any thing clearly at that moment but with the curiosity, I tried my best to see what they were doing. I saw, they entered a tube in to the mouth of the baby and sucked some liquid like phlegmy and at once the the baby began to cry. >> > >> > The saying of Guruji, the correct Birth Time of a baby is the time of first crying, came to my mind. But no one cared of the TIME of crying!... due to the ignorance ... >> > >> > After sometime another lady came with a form and asked for the sex of tha baby to fill in the form. The Sister with the machine replied "It is a Girl, Girl" and asked did you get the time? Then the second lady replied, "Yes I got". >> > >> > No question the time she has taken is the time of taking out the baby from her mother's womb by the Doctor, instead of the Astrologically correct Time.... ie the Time of first cry. >> > According to me the time difference of these two incidents of taking out the baby from the womb and crying is about 10-15 minutes. >> > This is not the first and last case of noting the incorrect time of birh of new born in this world. So as Kp Astrologers we have to put our great attention to the correct BT, when we under go any predictions. >> > >> > This small experience is only for the interest and information of our members. >> > >> > Kalyan >> > >> > > > > See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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