Guest guest Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Dear friends, The KP students, followers, practitioners and Learners are themselves making a Joke of KP by too much of deviations from the Original. They talk of using Subs in RP's. They talk of planets in conjunctions of Rp's to be used as RPs and they talk of planets aspecting the RP's also to be taken as RP's. I wonder instead of so much excersises, why dont they take all the 9 Planets as the RP's. I also wish someone senior here presents the Actual original rules for RP.s including retrograde planets , or planets in Retrograde StarLords, with reference to both Natal and Horary Astrology. Bhaskar. , sujata das <sujatadash1 wrote: > > Dear Punit > In annual numbers of KP in '93/94, I remember reading about planets aspecting the RPs being considered as RPs.. While identifying your lagna, if the conjunction of sa and mer (RP) had been taken, Surprakash would have got all the RPs of your birth. > In Mr Lajmis case Ju opposion sun, within 1 degree would have given all the neccessary RPs > But, what does one do with the RPs, if one doesn't know how to interpret them. > Even if a span of 2 hrs. had been given in Mr Lajmis case, no one would have used sun, 3 times in coming to the right conclusion > Regards > Sujata > > > > > ________________________________ > Punit Pandey punitp > > Monday, 17 August, 2009 7:27:26 PM > Re: Re: The Miracle that is K.P....Lajmi ji Birth Time > > > Dear Suprakash ji, > > I read your email only. Quote - > > 1. " Day Lord:Jupiter " > 2. " Jup is retrograde : eliminated " > > Am I missing anything? > > Thanks & Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co.in> wrote: > > > > > > > >Jupiter was not in RP > > > >Suprakash > >- > >>Punit Pandey > >>@gro ups.com > >>Monday, August 17, 2009 5:44 PM > >>Re: Re: The Miracle that is K.P....Lajmi ji Birth Time > >> > >> > >>Dear Suprakash ji, > >> > >>Retrograde planet should not be eliminated from the list of RP at judgement. Only planets that are in nakshatra of retrograde planets should be eliminated. > >> > >>Thanks & Regards, > >> > >>Punit Pandey > >> > >> > >> > >>On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co.in> wrote: > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > >>>Dear all > >>> > >>>I have just received the feedback from Lajmiji. He has given his birth details.I don't know if there is any technical problem regarding the posting as today only I have received the same. > >>> > >>>As per his time and date of birth, > >>>Lagna :Sagitarious Jup- Sun-Sun > >>>Moon Sign: Capricorn Sat-Sun-Sat > >>> > >>>My finals RPs were Sat,Moon and Sun and My choice was Cancer / Capricorn preferably cancer. > >>> > >>>Indeed his moon position is in capricorn and Sun became stronger than moon. > >>> > >>>Jupiter was not in RP. > >>> > >>>It appears that the RP has correctly reflected the Moon position, however why Sun became strong is not known to me. > >>> > >>>Thanks again Lajmiji for his kind assistance and it appears that the rule given by him. However, for selecting the proper RP, we need more research and guidance from the seniors. > >>> > >>>It is better if we conduct some more tests and analyze > >>> > >>>Regards > >>> > >>>Suprakash > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>- > >>>>Luther Rath > >>>>@gro ups.com > >>>>Sunday, August 16, 2009 8:15 AM > >>>>Re: Re: The Miracle that is K.P.... > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>Thanks for your reply Dear Suprakashji. > >>>>Wish you a nice day ahead. > >>>>Dr. Rath > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > ________________________________ > S.Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co.in> > >>>>@gro ups.com > >>>>Saturday, August 15, 2009 9:46:46 PM > >>>> Re: The Miracle that is K.P.... > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>Venus is in star and sub of Jup in retrogression. hence rejected.Jup is not in RP. (Wrongly I have mentioned it as day lord..actually day lord should be Venus) > >>>> > >>>>As per order of strength, Sun is in 3rd position. > >>>> > >>>>My urge was to know the Sign position..not the sub. So the strongest planets must guide me for sign only. > >>>> > >>>>Yes thre are equal possibility of being Makar Lagna and in star of Sravana.I have selected Cancer as one of the strong RPs Sun is posited there. > >>>> > >>>>Regards > >>>> > >>>>Suprakash > >>>> > >>>>@gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Why not in Sun Star and Venus sub in Capricorn? > >>>>>>>>> Dr. Rath > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __ > >>>>> Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ ...> > >>>>> @gro ups.com > >>>>>>>>> Friday, August 14, 2009 5:34:31 PM > >>>>> Re: The Miracle that is K.P..... > >>>>> > >>>>>  > >>>>> Today, 14 August, at 5:20:58 PM,I had an urge to know the Lagna Position of Lajmiji. > >>>>>>>>>  > >>>>> At Calcutta, ruling planets are: > >>>>>  > >>>>> Asc star :Moon > >>>>> Asc rasi :Saturn > >>>>> Moon Star:Sun > >>>>> Moon Sign:Venus > >>>>> Day Lord:Jupiter > >>>>>  > >>>>> Moon is strongest being asc star, also in star of Sun, another RP and sub of Merc, though not in RP, bur conj with Sat, asc lord. > >>>>>>>>>  > >>>>> Saturn in next strong being in star and sub of sun, Sun is Moon star lord. > >>>>>  > >>>>> Next strong is Sun being in star of Sat and in  sub of merc. > >>>>>  > >>>>>  > >>>>> Jup is retrograde : eliminated > >>>>>>>>>  > >>>>> Venus : In star and sub of jup retrograde: eliminated. > >>>>>  > >>>>>  > >>>>> So, Lajmiji’s sign must be : Cancer, Pushya nakstra, Sun Sub. > >>>>>  > >>>>> Lajmiji, please confirm. > >>>>>  > >>>>>>>>>  > >>>>>  > >>>>>  > >>>>> - > >>>>> >Yogesh Lajmi > >>>>> >@gro ups.com > >>>>> >Cc: astro logy > >>>>>>>>> >Friday, August 14, 2009 9:56 AM > >>>>> >Re: The Miracle that is K.P.... > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> >Dear Azeem, > >>>>> >                   As per K.P., every moment in Time is Ruled by atleast 5 Planets.... > >>>>>>>>> >                   They are,in order of strength, the Starlord of the Ascendant Rising(at that time),the Signlord of that Ascendant,,the Moon's starlord,the Moon's Signlord and the Day lord...recent researchers have added the sublords of the Ascendant and Moon to these 5, making it 7 Planets... This epoch-making discovery/invention has made our late Guruji,Jyotish Marthand,K.S. Krishnamurthiji, immortal. ..! > >>>>>>>>> >                   These RPs play a very important role...for example, the Ruling Planets at your Birth will play an important role in bringing about almost every important event in your Life...and so on...there are many applications of RPs in K.P. > >>>>>>>>> >                   With best wishes, > >>>>> >                   Yogesh Lajmi, > >>>>> >                                                GOOD LUCK ! > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __ > >>>>> astro logy <astro_logy66@ > > >>>>> >@gro ups.com > >>>>>>>>> >Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:32:52 PM > >>>>> >Re: The Miracle that is K.P.... > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> >Respected Yogesh ji > >>>>> >can you explain what is the RPs. i ll be very much thankful to you for this act of kindness. > >>>>>>>>> >Azeem (student of kp system of astrology) > >>>>> > > >>>>> >--- On Tue, 8/11/09, Bhargava Ram gd26ram (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> >>Bhargava Ram gd26ram (AT) (DOT) co.in> > >>>>>>>>> >>Re: The Miracle that is K.P.... > >>>>> >>@gro ups.com > >>>>> >>Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 7:56 AM > >>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >>Dear Sir, > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >>As I am a learner in KP astrology can you illustrate with an example. > >>>>> >>Which will be helpful for learners like me. > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >>Pranams. > >>>>> >>Bhargav. > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >>--- On Mon, 10/8/09, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >>>Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > > >>>>> >>> The Miracle that is K.P.... > >>>>>>>>> >>> " ALL MEMBERS " <@ gro ups.com> > >>>>> >>>Cc: " Punit Pandey " punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>, " tw853 " tw853 (AT) (DOT) com> > >>>>>>>>> >>>Monday, 10 August, 2009, 8:51 PM > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>>Dear MEMBERS, > >>>>> >>>                           Here's a method of stunning a person who comes to consult you... > >>>>>>>>> >>>                          You could him tell him his Birth Star,straightaway. ..and he will be surprised,especiall y if he knows it... > >>>>> >>>                           Our Guruji's daughter used to stun his clients by telling his/her Birth Star... as he entered the room,they were sitting in...Knowledge of K.P., alone can help one do this...to the utter surprise of the client... > >>>>>>>>> >>>                           The RPs at the exact time when he begins consulting you,look at your watch(previously adjusted to the exact Standard Time)...The RPs at that time can help you...The Lagna starlord and the signlord, in which the Lagna at that time is transitting will be the Birth Star of the person         Rasi-lord ....you can inform most confidently, without even looking at the horoscope... ! > >>>>>>>>> >>>                            That is the 'Miracle' that only K.P. can help you perform... > >>>>> >>>                             K..P. followers may apply the rules for nodes,in case a node appears...if the node is stronger...( and is in the sign of a planet and is untenanted,take the node,as usual). > >>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> Members are requested to try this out and inform their observations at this site,please. > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>>                            With the very best wishes, > >>>>>>>>> >>>                            Yogesh Lajmi. > >>>>> >>>                      > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>__________ _________ _________ ____ > >>>>>>>>> recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >> > > > > > Looking for local information? 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Guest guest Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Respected Lajmiji Jupiter was not in Ruling Planet.(The day lord was Venus actually. (initially I mentioned jup wrongly) Venus was the ruling planet rejected on the ground that it is in star and sub of Jup. If I include Venus accepting your advise,where is the presence of Venus in your birth RP? Regards Suprakash , Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi wrote: > > Dear Suprakash, >                         Rejecting retrograde planets from among the Ruling Planets applies only to K.P.- Horary and not to Natal horoscopy...! >                         Yogesh Lajmi. > > > > > ________________________________ > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh > > Monday, August 17, 2009 6:50:43 PM > Re: Re: The Miracle that is K.P....Lajmi ji Birth Time > >  >  > Jupiter was not in RP >  > Suprakash > - > >Punit Pandey > >@gro ups.com > >Monday, August 17, 2009 5:44 PM > >Re: Re: The Miracle that is K.P....Lajmi ji Birth Time > > > > > >Dear Suprakash ji, > > > >Retrograde planet should not be eliminated from the list of RP at judgement. Only planets that are in nakshatra of retrograde planets should be eliminated. > > > >Thanks & Regards, > > > >Punit Pandey > > > > > > > >On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co.in> wrote: > > > > > >> > >>Dear all > >> > >>I have just received the feedback from Lajmiji. He has given his birth details.I don't know if there is any technical problem regarding the posting as today only I have received the same.. > >> > >>As per his time and date of birth, > >>Lagna :Sagitarious    Jup- Sun-Sun > >>Moon Sign: Capricorn Sat-Sun-Sat > >> > >>My finals RPs were Sat,Moon and Sun and My choice was Cancer / Capricorn preferably cancer. > >> > >>Indeed his  moon position is in capricorn and Sun became stronger than moon. > >> > >>Jupiter was not in RP. > >> > >>It appears that the RP has correctly reflected the Moon position, however why Sun became strong is not known to me. > >> > >>Thanks again Lajmiji for his kind assistance and it appears that the rule given by him. However, for selecting the proper RP, we need more research and guidance from the seniors. > >> > >>It is better if we conduct some more tests and analyze > >> > >>Regards > >> > >>Suprakash > >> > >> > >> > >>- > >>>Luther Rath > >>>@gro ups.com > >>>Sunday, August 16, 2009 8:15 AM > >>>Re: Re: The Miracle that is K.P.... > >>> > >>> > >>>Thanks for your reply Dear Suprakashji. > >>>Wish you a nice day ahead. > >>>Dr. Rath > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ________________________________ > S.Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co.in> > >>>@gro ups.com > >>>Saturday, August 15, 2009 9:46:46 PM > >>> Re: The Miracle that is K.P.... > >>> > >>> > >>>Venus is in star and sub of Jup in retrogression. hence rejected.Jup is not in RP. (Wrongly I have mentioned it as day lord..actually day lord should be Venus) > >>> > >>>As per order of strength, Sun is in 3rd position. > >>> > >>>My urge was to know the Sign position..not the sub. So the strongest planets must guide me for sign only. > >>> > >>>Yes thre are equal possibility of being Makar Lagna and in star of Sravana.I have selected Cancer as one of the strong RPs Sun is posited there. > >>> > >>>Regards > >>> > >>>Suprakash > >>> > >>>@gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Why not in Sun Star and Venus sub in Capricorn? > >>>> Dr. Rath > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ____________ _________ _________ __ > >>>> Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ ...> > >>>> @gro ups.com > >>>> Friday, August 14, 2009 5:34:31 PM > >>>> Re: The Miracle that is K.P.... > >>>> > >>>>  > >>>> Today, 14 August, at 5:20:58 PM,I had an urge to know the Lagna Position of Lajmiji. > >>>>  > >>>> At Calcutta, ruling planets are: > >>>>  > >>>> Asc star :Moon > >>>> Asc rasi :Saturn > >>>> Moon Star:Sun > >>>> Moon Sign:Venus > >>>> Day Lord:Jupiter > >>>>  > >>>> Moon is strongest being asc star, also in star of Sun, another RP and sub of Merc, though not in RP, bur conj with Sat, asc lord. > >>>>  > >>>> Saturn in next strong being in star and sub of sun, Sun is Moon star lord. > >>>>  > >>>> Next strong is Sun being in star of Sat and in  sub of merc. > >>>>  > >>>>  > >>>> Jup is retrograde : eliminated > >>>>  > >>>> Venus : In star and sub of jup retrograde: eliminated. > >>>>  > >>>>  > >>>> So, Lajmiji’s sign must be : Cancer, Pushya nakstra, Sun Sub. > >>>>  > >>>> Lajmiji, please confirm. > >>>>  > >>>>  > >>>>  > >>>>  > >>>> - > >>>> >Yogesh Lajmi > >>>> >@gro ups.com > >>>> >Cc: astro logy > >>>> >Friday, August 14, 2009 9:56 AM > >>>> >Re: The Miracle that is K.P.... > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> >Dear Azeem, > >>>> >                   As per K.P., every moment in Time is Ruled by atleast 5 Planets... > >>>> >                   They are,in order of strength, the Starlord of the Ascendant Rising(at that time),the Signlord of that Ascendant,,the Moon's starlord,the Moon's Signlord and the Day lord...recent researchers have added the sublords of the Ascendant and Moon to these 5, making it 7 Planets... This epoch-making discovery/invention has made our late Guruji,Jyotish Marthand,K.S. Krishnamurthiji, immortal. ..! > >>>> >                   These RPs play a very important role...for example, the Ruling Planets at your Birth will play an important role in bringing about almost every important event in your Life...and so on...there are many applications of RPs in K.P. > >>>> >                   With best wishes, > >>>> >                   Yogesh Lajmi, > >>>> >                   ÂÂ\                    ÂÂ\         GOOD LUCK ! > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> ____________ _________ _________ __ > >>>> astro logy <astro_logy66@ > > >>>> >@gro ups.com > >>>> >Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:32:52 PM > >>>> >Re: The Miracle that is K.P.... > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> >Respected Yogesh ji > >>>> >can you explain what is the RPs. i ll be very much thankful to you for this act of kindness.. > >>>> >Azeem (student of kp system of astrology) > >>>> > > >>>> >--- On Tue, 8/11/09, Bhargava Ram <gd26ram (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> >>Bhargava Ram <gd26ram (AT) (DOT) co.in> > >>>> >>Re: The Miracle that is K.P.... > >>>> >>@gro ups.com > >>>> >>Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 7:56 AM > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >>Dear Sir, > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >>As I am a learner in KP astrology can you illustrate with an example. > >>>> >>Which will be helpful for learners like me. > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >>Pranams. > >>>> >>Bhargav. > >>>> >> > >>>> >>--- On Mon, 10/8/09, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >>>Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > > >>>> >>> The Miracle that is K.P.... > >>>> >>> " ALL MEMBERS " <@ gro ups.com> > >>>> >>>Cc: " Punit Pandey " <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>, " tw853 " <tw853 (AT) (DOT) . com> > >>>> >>>Monday, 10 August, 2009, 8:51 PM > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>Dear MEMBERS, > >>>> >>>                   Ã\ ‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Here's a method of stunning a person who comes to consult you.... > >>>> >>>                   Ã\ ‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â You could him tell him his Birth Star,straightaway.. ...and he will be surprised,especiall y if he knows it... > >>>> >>>                   Ã\ ‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Our Guruji's daughter used to stun his clients by telling his/her Birth Star... as he entered the room,they were sitting in...Knowledge of K.P., alone can help one do this...to the utter surprise of the client... > >>>> >>>                   Ã\ ‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â The RPs at the exact time when he begins consulting you,look at your watch(previously adjusted to the exact Standard Time)...The RPs at that time can help you...The Lagna starlord and the signlord, in which the Lagna at that time is transitting will be the Birth Star of the person         Rasi-lord ....you can inform most confidently, without even looking at the horoscope... ! > >>>> >>>                   Ã\ ‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â That is the 'Miracle' that only K.P. can help you perform... > >>>> >>>                   Ã\ ‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â K..P. followers may apply the rules for nodes,in case a node appears...if the node is stronger...( and is in the sign of a planet and is untenanted,take the node,as usual). > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> Members are requested to try this out and inform their observations at this site,please. > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>                   Ã\ ‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â With the very best wishes, > >>>> >>>                   Ã\ ‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Yogesh Lajmi. > >>>> >>>                   Ã\ ‚ Â Â > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>__________ _________ _________ ____ > >>>> recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > __.._,_.___ > Messages in this topic (2) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Calendar > Change settings via the Web ( ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional > Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Un > Recent Activity > *  23 > New MembersVisit Your Group > Give Back > for Good > Get inspired > by a good cause. > Y! 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Guest guest Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Dear Bhaskarji, I would like to quote a paragraph written in italics in page No.176 of Reader VI. " One should not accept these ruling planets as it is. Check up whether any of them is posited in the constellation or sub of a retrograde planet. If there is any, reject it and accept the remaining."Dr. Rath Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 9:02:54 PM Re: The Miracle that is K.P....Lajmi ji Birth Time Dear friends,The KP students, followers, practitioners and Learners are themselvesmaking a Joke of KP by too much of deviations from the Original.They talk of using Subs in RP's. They talk of planets in conjunctions ofRp's to be used as RPs and they talk of planets aspecting the RP's alsoto be taken as RP's.I wonder instead of so much excersises, why dont they take all the 9Planets as the RP's.I also wish someone senior here presents the Actual original rules forRP.s including retrograde planets , or planets in Retrograde StarLords,with reference to both Natal and Horary Astrology.Bhaskar.@gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Punit> In annual numbers of KP in '93/94, I remember reading about planetsaspecting the RPs being considered as RPs.. While identifying yourlagna, if the conjunction of sa and mer (RP) had been taken, Surprakashwould have got all the RPs of your birth.> In Mr Lajmis case Ju opposion sun, within 1 degree would have givenall the neccessary RPs> But, what does one do with the RPs, if one doesn't know how tointerpret them.> Even if a span of 2 hrs. had been given in Mr Lajmis case, no onewould have used sun, 3 times in coming to the right conclusion> Regards> Sujata>>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> Punit Pandey punitp @gro ups.com> Monday, 17 August, 2009 7:27:26 PM> Re: Re: The Miracle that is K.P....Lajmi jiBirth Time>>> Dear Suprakash ji,>> I read your email only. Quote ->> 1. "Day Lord:Jupiter"> 2. "Jup is retrograde : eliminated">> Am I missing anything?>> Thanks & Regards,>> Punit Pandey>>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh (AT) cesc (DOT) co.in> wrote:>>> >> >> >Jupiter was not in RP> >> >Suprakash> >-> >>Punit Pandey> >>@gro ups.com> >>Monday, August 17, 2009 5:44 PM> >>Re: Re: The Miracle that is K.P....Lajmi jiBirth Time> >>> >>> >>Dear Suprakash ji,> >>> >>Retrograde planet should not be eliminated from the list of RP atjudgement. Only planets that are in nakshatra of retrograde planetsshould be eliminated.> >>> >>Thanks & Regards,> >>> >>Punit Pandey> >>> >>> >>> >>On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh (AT) cesc (DOT) co.in> wrote:> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>Dear all> >>>> >>>I have just received the feedback from Lajmiji. He has given hisbirth details.I don't know if there is any technical problem regardingthe posting as today only I have received the same.> >>>> >>>As per his time and date of birth,> >>>Lagna :Sagitarious Jup- Sun-Sun> >>>Moon Sign: Capricorn Sat-Sun-Sat> >>>> >>>My finals RPs were Sat,Moon and Sun and My choice was Cancer /Capricorn preferably cancer.> >>>> >>>Indeed his moon position is in capricorn and Sun became strongerthan moon.> >>>> >>>Jupiter was not in RP.> >>>> >>>It appears that the RP has correctly reflected the Moon position,however why Sun became strong is not known to me.> >>>> >>>Thanks again Lajmiji for his kind assistance and it appears thatthe rule given by him. However, for selecting the proper RP, we needmore research and guidance from the seniors.> >>>> >>>It is better if we conduct some more tests and analyze> >>>> >>>Regards> >>>> >>>Suprakash> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>-> >>>>Luther Rath> >>>>@gro ups.com> >>>>Sunday, August 16, 2009 8:15 AM> >>>>Re: Re: The Miracle that is K.P....> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Thanks for your reply Dear Suprakashji.> >>>>Wish you a nice day ahead.> >>>>Dr. Rath> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> S.Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co.in>> >>>>@gro ups.com> >>>>Saturday, August 15, 2009 9:46:46 PM> >>>> Re: The Miracle that is K.P....> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Venus is in star and sub of Jup in retrogression. hencerejected.Jup is not in RP. (Wrongly I have mentioned it as daylord..actually day lord should be Venus)> >>>>> >>>>As per order of strength, Sun is in 3rd position.> >>>>> >>>>My urge was to know the Sign position..not the sub. So thestrongest planets must guide me for sign only.> >>>>> >>>>Yes thre are equal possibility of being Makar Lagna and in star ofSravana.I have selected Cancer as one of the strong RPs Sun is positedthere.> >>>>> >>>>Regards> >>>>> >>>>Suprakash> >>>>> >>>>@gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...>wrote:> >>>>>> >>>>> Why not in Sun Star and Venus sub in Capricorn?> >>>>>>>>> Dr. Rath> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> >>>>> Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ ...>> >>>>> @gro ups.com> >>>>>>>>> Friday, August 14, 2009 5:34:31 PM> >>>>> Re: The Miracle that is K.P.....> >>>>>> >>>>> Â> >>>>> Today, 14 August, at 5:20:58 PM,I had an urge to know the LagnaPosition of Lajmiji.> >>>>>>>>> Â> >>>>> At Calcutta, ruling planets are:> >>>>> Â> >>>>> Asc star :Moon> >>>>> Asc rasi :Saturn> >>>>> Moon Star:Sun> >>>>> Moon Sign:Venus> >>>>> Day Lord:Jupiter> >>>>> Â> >>>>> Moon is strongest being asc star, also in star of Sun, anotherRP and sub of Merc, though not in RP, bur conj with Sat, asc lord.> >>>>>>>>> Â> >>>>> Saturn in next strong being in star and sub of sun, Sun is Moonstar lord.> >>>>> Â> >>>>> Next strong is Sun being in star of Sat and in  sub ofmerc.> >>>>> Â> >>>>> Â> >>>>> Jup is retrograde : eliminated> >>>>>>>>> Â> >>>>> Venus : In star and sub of jup retrograde: eliminated.> >>>>> Â> >>>>> Â> >>>>> So, Lajmiji’s sign must be : Cancer, Pushya nakstra,Sun Sub.> >>>>> Â> >>>>> Lajmiji, please confirm.> >>>>> Â> >>>>>>>>> Â> >>>>> Â> >>>>> Â> >>>>> -> >>>>> >Yogesh Lajmi> >>>>> >@gro ups.com> >>>>> >Cc: astro logy> >>>>>>>>> >Friday, August 14, 2009 9:56 AM> >>>>> >Re: The Miracle that is K.P....> >>>>> >> >>>>> >Â> >>>>> >Dear Azeem,> >>>>> >        Â          Asper K.P., every moment in Time is Ruled by atleast 5 Planets....> >>>>>>>>> >       Â         Â They are,in order of strength, the Starlord of the AscendantRising(at that time),the Signlord of that Ascendant,,the Moon'sstarlord,the Moon's Signlord and the Day lord...recent researchers haveadded the sublords of the Ascendant and Moon to these 5, making it7 Planets... This epoch-making discovery/invention has made ourlate Guruji,Jyotish Marthand,K.S. Krishnamurthiji, immortal. ..!> >>>>>>>>> >       Â         Â These RPs play a very important role...for example, the RulingPlanets at your Birth will play an important role in bringing aboutalmost every important event in your Life...and so on...there are manyapplications of RPs in K.P.> >>>>>>>>> >       Â         Â With best wishes,> >>>>> >        Â         ÂYogesh Lajmi,Â> >>>>> >        Â         Â         Â         Â         GOOD LUCK!> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> >>>>> astro logy <astro_logy66@ >> >>>>> >@gro ups.com> >>>>>>>>> >Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:32:52 PM> >>>>> >Re: The Miracle that is K.P....> >>>>> >> >>>>> >Â> >>>>> >Respected Yogesh ji> >>>>> >can you explain what is the RPs. i ll be very much thankful toyou for this act of kindness.> >>>>>>>>> >Azeem (student of kp system of astrology)> >>>>> >> >>>>> >--- On Tue, 8/11/09, Bhargava Ram gd26ram (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >>Bhargava Ram gd26ram (AT) (DOT) co.in>> >>>>>>>>> >>Re: The Miracle that is K.P....> >>>>> >>@gro ups.com> >>>>> >>Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 7:56 AM> >>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>> >>Â> >>>>> >>Dear Sir,> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>As I am a learner in KP astrology can you illustrate with anexample.> >>>>> >>Which will be helpful for learners like me.> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>Pranams.> >>>>> >>Bhargav.> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>--- On Mon, 10/8/09, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >wrote:> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>>Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >> >>>>> >>> The Miracle that is K.P....> >>>>>>>>> >>>"ALL MEMBERS" <@ gro ups.com>> >>>>> >>>Cc: "Punit Pandey" punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>, "tw853" tw853 >> >>>>>>>>> >>>Monday, 10 August, 2009, 8:51 PM> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>Â> >>>>> >>>Dear MEMBERS,> >>>>> >>>       Â         Â         Here's amethod of stunning a person who comes to consult you...> >>>>>>>>> >>>       Â         Â        You could himtell him his Birth Star,straightaway. ..and he will besurprised,especiall y if he knows it...> >>>>> >>>       Â         Â         OurGuruji's daughter used to stun his clients by telling his/herÂBirth Star... as he entered the room,they were sittingin...Knowledge of K.P., alone can help one do this...to the uttersurprise of the client...> >>>>>>>>> >>>       Â         Â         The RPsat the exact time when he begins consulting you,look at yourwatch(previously adjusted to the exact Standard Time)...The RPs at thattime can help you...The Lagna starlord and the signlord, in whichthe Lagna at that time is transitting will be the Birth Star of theperson        ÂRasi-lord ....you can inform most confidently, without even looking atthe horoscope... !> >>>>>>>>> >>>       Â         Â         ÂThat is the 'Miracle' that only K.P. can help you perform...> >>>>> >>>       Â         Â         Â K..P. followers may apply the rules for nodes,in case a nodeappears...if the node is stronger...( and is in the sign of a planet andis untenanted,take the node,as usual).> >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> Members are requested to try this out and inform theirobservations at this site,please.> >>>>> >>>Â> >>>>> >>>       Â         Â         ÂWith the very best wishes,> >>>>>>>>> >>>       Â         Â         ÂYogesh Lajmi.> >>>>> >>>       Â         Â   Â> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>__________ _________ _________ ____> >>>>>>>>> recommends that you upgrade to the new and saferInternet Explorer 8.> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Looking for local information? 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Guest guest Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Dear Suprakash, This means that you have taken the RP's wrongly... Read KSK's instructions very carefully...first... Never mind...take the RPs after reading this mail, with the thought to correct my Birt Chart(Lajmi's BC),and write them down...now look for any conjunctions,strong aspects etc., Signs occupied by the nodes,and make note....and then you will...arrive at my exact Ascendant,by inserting the Planets as directed in the instructions as given by KSK... With best wishes, Yogesh Lajmi. GOOD LUCK ! S.Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:51:02 PM Re: The Miracle that is K.P....Lajmi ji Birth Time Respected LajmijiJupiter was not in Ruling Planet.(The day lord was Venus actually. (initially I mentioned jup wrongly)Venus was the ruling planet rejected on the ground that it is in star and sub of Jup..If I include Venus accepting your advise,where is the presence of Venus in your birth RP?RegardsSuprakash@gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Suprakash,>                         Rejecting retrograde planets from among the Ruling Planets applies only to K.P.- Horary and not to Natal horoscopy... !>                         Yogesh Lajmi.> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ ...>> @gro ups.com> Monday, August 17, 2009 6:50:43 PM> Re: Re: The Miracle that is K.P....Lajmi ji Birth Time> >  >  > Jupiter was not in RP>  > Suprakash> - > >Punit Pandey > >@gro ups.com > >Monday, August 17, 2009 5:44 PM> >Re: Re: The Miracle that is K.P....Lajmi ji Birth Time> >> > > >Dear Suprakash ji,> >> >Retrograde planet should not be eliminated from the list of RP at judgement. Only planets that are in nakshatra of retrograde planets should be eliminated. > >> >Thanks & Regards,> >> >Punit Pandey> >> >> >> >On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co.in> wrote:> >> > > >> > >>Dear all> >> > >>I have just received the feedback from Lajmiji. He has given his birth details.I don't know if there is any technical problem regarding the posting as today only I have received the same..> >> > >>As per his time and date of birth, > >>Lagna :Sagitarious    Jup- Sun-Sun> >>Moon Sign: Capricorn Sat-Sun-Sat> >> > >>My finals RPs were Sat,Moon and Sun and My choice was Cancer / Capricorn preferably cancer.> >> > >>Indeed his  moon position is in capricorn and Sun became stronger than moon.> >> > >>Jupiter was not in RP.> >> > >>It appears that the RP has correctly reflected the Moon position, however why Sun became strong is not known to me.> >> > >>Thanks again Lajmiji for his kind assistance and it appears that the rule given by him. However, for selecting the proper RP, we need more research and guidance from the seniors.> >> > >>It is better if we conduct some more tests and analyze> >> > >>Regards> >> > >>Suprakash> >> > >> > >> > >>- > >>>Luther Rath > >>>@gro ups.com > >>>Sunday, August 16, 2009 8:15 AM> >>>Re: Re: The Miracle that is K.P....> >>>> >>> > >>>Thanks for your reply Dear Suprakashji.> >>>Wish you a nice day ahead.> >>>Dr. Rath> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> S.Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co.in>> >>>@gro ups.com> >>>Saturday, August 15, 2009 9:46:46 PM> >>> Re: The Miracle that is K.P....> >>>> >>> > >>>Venus is in star and sub of Jup in retrogression. hence rejected.Jup is not in RP. (Wrongly I have mentioned it as day lord..actually day lord should be Venus)> >>>> >>>As per order of strength, Sun is in 3rd position.> >>>> >>>My urge was to know the Sign position..not the sub. So the strongest planets must guide me for sign only.> >>>> >>>Yes thre are equal possibility of being Makar Lagna and in star of Sravana..I have selected Cancer as one of the strong RPs Sun is posited there.> >>>> >>>Regards> >>>> >>>Suprakash> >>>> >>>@gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote:> >>>>> >>>> Why not in Sun Star and Venus sub in Capricorn?> >>>> Dr. Rath> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> >>>> Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ ...>> >>>> @gro ups.com> >>>> Friday, August 14, 2009 5:34:31 PM> >>>> Re: The Miracle that is K.P....> >>>> > >>>>  > >>>> Today, 14 August, at 5:20:58 PM,I had an urge to know the Lagna Position of Lajmiji.> >>>>  > >>>> At Calcutta, ruling planets are:> >>>>  > >>>> Asc star :Moon> >>>> Asc rasi :Saturn> >>>> Moon Star:Sun> >>>> Moon Sign:Venus> >>>> Day Lord:Jupiter> >>>>  > >>>> Moon is strongest being asc star, also in star of Sun, another RP and sub of Merc, though not in RP, bur conj with Sat, asc lord.> >>>>  > >>>> Saturn in next strong being in star and sub of sun, Sun is Moon star lord.> >>>>  > >>>> Next strong is Sun being in star of Sat and in  sub of merc.> >>>>  > >>>>  > >>>> Jup is retrograde : eliminated> >>>>  > >>>> Venus : In star and sub of jup retrograde: eliminated.> >>>>  > >>>>  > >>>> So, Lajmiji’s sign must be : Cancer, Pushya nakstra, Sun Sub..> >>>>  > >>>> Lajmiji, please confirm.> >>>>  > >>>>  > >>>>  > >>>>  > >>>> - > >>>> >Yogesh Lajmi > >>>> >@gro ups.com > >>>> >Cc: astro logy > >>>> >Friday, August 14, 2009 9:56 AM> >>>> >Re: The Miracle that is K.P....> >>>> >> >>>> > > >>>> >Dear Azeem,> >>>> >                   As per K.P., every moment in Time is Ruled by atleast 5 Planets...> >>>> >                   They are,in order of strength, the Starlord of the Ascendant Rising(at that time),the Signlord of that Ascendant,,the Moon's starlord,the Moon's Signlord and the Day lord...recent researchers have added the sublords of the Ascendant and Moon to these 5, making it 7 Planets... This epoch-making discovery/invention has made our late Guruji,Jyotish Marthand,K.S. Krishnamurthiji, immortal. ..!> >>>> >                   These RPs play a very important role...for example, the Ruling Planets at your Birth will play an important role in bringing about almost every important event in your Life...and so on...there are many applications of RPs in K.P.> >>>> >                   With best wishes,> >>>> >                   Yogesh Lajmi, > >>>> >                                                GOOD LUCK !> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> >>>> astro logy <astro_logy66@ >> >>>> >@gro ups.com> >>>> >Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:32:52 PM> >>>> >Re: The Miracle that is K.P....> >>>> >> >>>> > > >>>> >Respected Yogesh ji> >>>> >can you explain what is the RPs. i ll be very much thankful to you for this act of kindness..> >>>> >Azeem (student of kp system of astrology)> >>>> >> >>>> >--- On Tue, 8/11/09, Bhargava Ram <gd26ram (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>Bhargava Ram <gd26ram (AT) (DOT) . co.in>> >>>> >>Re: The Miracle that is K.P....> >>>> >>@gro ups.com> >>>> >>Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 7:56 AM> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >> > >>>> >>Dear Sir, > >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>As I am a learner in KP astrology can you illustrate with an example.> >>>> >>Which will be helpful for learners like me.> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>Pranams.> >>>> >>Bhargav.> >>>> >>> >>>> >>--- On Mon, 10/8/09, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >> >>>> >>> The Miracle that is K.P....> >>>> >>>"ALL MEMBERS" <@ gro ups.com>> >>>> >>>Cc: "Punit Pandey" <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>, "tw853" <tw853 (AT) (DOT) . com>> >>>> >>>Monday, 10 August, 2009, 8:51 PM> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>Dear MEMBERS,> >>>> >>>                           Here's a method of stunning a person who comes to consult you....> >>>> >>>                          You could him tell him his Birth Star,straightaway. . ..and he will be surprised,especiall y if he knows it...> >>>> >>>                           Our Guruji's daughter used to stun his clients by telling his/her Birth Star... as he entered the room,they were sitting in...Knowledge of K.P., alone can help one do this...to the utter surprise of the client...> >>>> >>>                           The RPs at the exact time when he begins consulting you,look at your watch(previously adjusted to the exact Standard Time)...The RPs at that time can help you...The Lagna starlord and the signlord, in which the Lagna at that time is transitting will be the Birth Star of the person         Rasi-lord ....you can inform most confidently, without even looking at the horoscope... !> >>>> >>>                            That is the 'Miracle' that only K.P. can help you perform...> >>>> >>>                             K..P. followers may apply the rules for nodes,in case a node appears...if the node is stronger...( and is in the sign of a planet and is untenanted,take the node,as usual).> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Members are requested to try this out and inform their observations at this site,please.> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>                            With the very best wishes,> >>>> >>>                            Yogesh Lajmi.> >>>> >>>                      > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>__________ _________ _________ ____> >>>> recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. > >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> __.._,_.___> Messages in this topic (2) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Calendar > Change settings via the Web ( ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional > Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Un > Recent Activity> *  23> New MembersVisit Your Group > Give Back> for Good> Get inspired> by a good cause.> Y! 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Guest guest Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Dear Sujata, You are very right, any planet within 3 degrees of a Ruling Planet should also be included among the Ruling Planets...Planets with the seventh aspect to any RP,should als be included among the RPs...and 120 deg aspect should also be included... All this is explained in fair detail in Astrosecrets & K.P., by KSK's son,Sothida Mamani K.Subramaniam,Part II,Pp 289-301. Yogesh Lajmi. GOOD LUCK ! sujata das <sujatadash1 Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 8:17:46 PMRe: Re: The Miracle that is K.P....Lajmi ji Birth Time Dear PunitIn annual numbers of KP in '93/94, I remember reading about planets aspecting the RPs being considered as RPs... While identifying your lagna, if the conjunction of sa and mer (RP) had been taken, Surprakash would have got all the RPs of your birth. In Mr Lajmis case Ju opposion sun, within 1 degree would have given all the neccessary RPsBut, what does one do with the RPs, if one doesn't know how to interpret them.Even if a span of 2 hrs. had been given in Mr Lajmis case, no one would have used sun, 3 times in coming to the right conclusionRegardsSujata Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>@gro ups.comMonday, 17 August, 2009 7:27:26 PMRe: Re: The Miracle that is K.P....Lajmi ji Birth Time Dear Suprakash ji, I read your email only. Quote - 1. "Day Lord:Jupiter" 2. "Jup is retrograde : eliminated" Am I missing anything? Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co.in> wrote:  Jupiter was not in RP Suprakash - Punit Pandey @gro ups.com Monday, August 17, 2009 5:44 PM Re: Re: The Miracle that is K.P....Lajmi ji Birth Time Dear Suprakash ji, Retrograde planet should not be eliminated from the list of RP at judgement. Only planets that are in nakshatra of retrograde planets should be eliminated. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co.in> wrote:  Dear all I have just received the feedback from Lajmiji. He has given his birth details.I don't know if there is any technical problem regarding the posting as today only I have received the same. As per his time and date of birth, Lagna :Sagitarious Jup- Sun-Sun Moon Sign: Capricorn Sat-Sun-Sat My finals RPs were Sat,Moon and Sun and My choice was Cancer / Capricorn preferably cancer. Indeed his moon position is in capricorn and Sun became stronger than moon. Jupiter was not in RP. It appears that the RP has correctly reflected the Moon position, however why Sun became strong is not known to me. Thanks again Lajmiji for his kind assistance and it appears that the rule given by him. However, for selecting the proper RP, we need more research and guidance from the seniors. It is better if we conduct some more tests and analyze Regards Suprakash - Luther Rath @gro ups.com Sunday, August 16, 2009 8:15 AM Re: Re: The Miracle that is K.P.... Thanks for your reply Dear Suprakashji. Wish you a nice day ahead. Dr. Rath S.Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co..in>@gro ups.comSaturday, August 15, 2009 9:46:46 PM Re: The Miracle that is K.P.... Venus is in star and sub of Jup in retrogression. hence rejected.Jup is not in RP. (Wrongly I have mentioned it as day lord..actually day lord should be Venus)As per order of strength, Sun is in 3rd position.My urge was to know the Sign position..not the sub. So the strongest planets must guide me for sign only.Yes thre are equal possibility of being Makar Lagna and in star of Sravana.I have selected Cancer as one of the strong RPs Sun is posited there.RegardsSuprakash@gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote:>> Why not in Sun Star and Venus sub in Capricorn?> Dr.. Rath> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ ...>> @gro ups.com> Friday, August 14, 2009 5:34:31 PM> Re: The Miracle that is K.P....> >  > Today, 14 August, at 5:20:58 PM,I had an urge to know the Lagna Position of Lajmiji.>  > At Calcutta, ruling planets are:>  > Asc star :Moon> Asc rasi :Saturn> Moon Star:Sun> Moon Sign:Venus> Day Lord:Jupiter>  > Moon is strongest being asc star, also in star of Sun, another RP and sub of Merc, though not in RP, bur conj with Sat, asc lord.>  > Saturn in next strong being in star and sub of sun, Sun is Moon star lord.>  > Next strong is Sun being in star of Sat and in  sub of merc.>  >  > Jup is retrograde : eliminated>  > Venus : In star and sub of jup retrograde: eliminated.>  >  > So, Lajmiji’s sign must be : Cancer, Pushya nakstra, Sun Sub.>  > Lajmiji, please confirm.>  >  >  >  > - > >Yogesh Lajmi > >@gro ups.com > >Cc: astro logy > >Friday, August 14, 2009 9:56 AM> >Re: The Miracle that is K.P....> >> > > >Dear Azeem,> >                   As per K.P., every moment in Time is Ruled by atleast 5 Planets...> >                   They are,in order of strength, the Starlord of the Ascendant Rising(at that time),the Signlord of that Ascendant,,the Moon's starlord,the Moon's Signlord and the Day lord...recent researchers have added the sublords of the Ascendant and Moon to these 5, making it 7 Planets... This epoch-making discovery/invention has made our late Guruji,Jyotish Marthand,K.S. Krishnamurthiji, immortal. ..!> >                   These RPs play a very important role...for example, the Ruling Planets at your Birth will play an important role in bringing about almost every important event in your Life...and so on...there are many applications of RPs in K.P.> >                   With best wishes,> >                   Yogesh Lajmi, > >                                                GOOD LUCK !> >> >> >> >> ____________ _________ _________ __> astro logy <astro_logy66@ >> >@gro ups.com> >Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:32:52 PM> >Re: The Miracle that is K.P....> >> > > >Respected Yogesh ji> >can you explain what is the RPs.. i ll be very much thankful to you for this act of kindness.> >Azeem (student of kp system of astrology)> >> >--- On Tue, 8/11/09, Bhargava Ram <gd26ram (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> >> >> >>Bhargava Ram <gd26ram (AT) (DOT) co.in>> >>Re: The Miracle that is K.P....> >>@gro ups.com> >>Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 7:56 AM> >>> >>> >> > >>Dear Sir, > >>> >>> >>As I am a learner in KP astrology can you illustrate with an example.> >>Which will be helpful for learners like me.> >>> >>> >>Pranams.> >>Bhargav.> >>> >>--- On Mon, 10/8/09, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:> >>> >>> >>>Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >> >>> The Miracle that is K.P....> >>>"ALL MEMBERS" <@ gro ups.com>> >>>Cc: "Punit Pandey" <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>, "tw853" <tw853 >> >>>Monday, 10 August, 2009, 8:51 PM> >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>Dear MEMBERS,> >>>                           Here's a method of stunning a person who comes to consult you...> >>>                          You could him tell him his Birth Star,straightaway. ..and he will be surprised,especiall y if he knows it...> >>>                           Our Guruji's daughter used to stun his clients by telling his/her Birth Star... as he entered the room,they were sitting in...Knowledge of K.P., alone can help one do this...to the utter surprise of the client...> >>>                           The RPs at the exact time when he begins consulting you,look at your watch(previously adjusted to the exact Standard Time)...The RPs at that time can help you....The Lagna starlord and the signlord, in which the Lagna at that time is transitting will be the Birth Star of the person         Rasi-lord ....you can inform most confidently, without even looking at the horoscope... !> >>>                            That is the 'Miracle' that only K.P. can help you perform...> >>>                             K..P. followers may apply the rules for nodes,in case a node appears...if the node is stronger...( and is in the sign of a planet and is untenanted,take the node,as usual).> >>>> >>> Members are requested to try this out and inform their observations at this site,please.> >>> > >>>                            With the very best wishes,> >>>                            Yogesh Lajmi.> >>>                      > >>> > >>__________ _________ _________ ____> recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. > >> >> recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. 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Guest guest Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Dear Lutherji. Yes thank you. I have no issues with these rules. I have issues only with people trying to increase the List of RP's with new rules invented on their own which makes no sense if finally 6-8 RP's comes as the outcome, then the whole purpose of RP's is dissolved. For instance conjunction of a PLanet with RP's certainly there must be a rule of certain orbs to be taken in such cases, and the conjunction of such planets as RP's must only be taken when one is actually not abe to reach anywhere with the standard RP's, but straightaway taking the conjunction of the Planets with RP Planets does notseem proper to me somehow. One cannot treat the planet in same sign as conjunction without checking the orb between the 2 planets. In same vein if aspects are to be taken too, then why take the RP's at all. Why not talk about the Horary chart of the moment instead of using the term of " RP " . best wishes, Bhaskar. , Luther Rath <rathluther wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji, > I would like to quote a paragraph written in italics in page No.176 of Reader VI. > " One should not accept these ruling planets as it is. Check up whether any of them is posited in the constellation or sub of a retrograde planet. If there is any, reject it and accept the remaining. " > Dr. Rath > > > > > ________________________________ > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > > Monday, August 17, 2009 9:02:54 PM > Re: The Miracle that is K.P....Lajmi ji Birth Time > >  > > Dear friends, > > The KP students, followers, practitioners and Learners are themselves > making a Joke of KP by too much of deviations from the Original. > > They talk of using Subs in RP's. They talk of planets in conjunctions of > Rp's to be used as RPs and they talk of planets aspecting the RP's also > to be taken as RP's. > > I wonder instead of so much excersises, why dont they take all the 9 > Planets as the RP's. > > I also wish someone senior here presents the Actual original rules for > RP.s including retrograde planets , or planets in Retrograde StarLords, > with reference to both Natal and Horary Astrology. > > Bhaskar. > > @gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Punit > > In annual numbers of KP in '93/94, I remember reading about planets > aspecting the RPs being considered as RPs.. While identifying your > lagna, if the conjunction of sa and mer (RP) had been taken, Surprakash > would have got all the RPs of your birth. > > In Mr Lajmis case Ju opposion sun, within 1 degree would have given > all the neccessary RPs > > But, what does one do with the RPs, if one doesn't know how to > interpret them. > > Even if a span of 2 hrs. had been given in Mr Lajmis case, no one > would have used sun, 3 times in coming to the right conclusion > > Regards > > Sujata > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Punit Pandey punitp@ > > @gro ups.com > > Monday, 17 August, 2009 7:27:26 PM > > Re: Re: The Miracle that is K.P....Lajmi ji > Birth Time > > > > > > Dear Suprakash ji, > > > > I read your email only. Quote - > > > > 1. " Day Lord:Jupiter " > > 2. " Jup is retrograde : eliminated " > > > > Am I missing anything? > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ > cesc.co.in> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >Jupiter was not in RP > > > > > >Suprakash > > >- > > >>Punit Pandey > > >>@gro ups.com > > >>Monday, August 17, 2009 5:44 PM > > >>Re: Re: The Miracle that is K.P....Lajmi ji > Birth Time > > >> > > >> > > >>Dear Suprakash ji, > > >> > > >>Retrograde planet should not be eliminated from the list of RP at > judgement. Only planets that are in nakshatra of retrograde planets > should be eliminated. > > >> > > >>Thanks & Regards, > > >> > > >>Punit Pandey > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ > cesc.co.in> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>Dear all > > >>> > > >>>I have just received the feedback from Lajmiji. He has given his > birth details.I don't know if there is any technical problem regarding > the posting as today only I have received the same. > > >>> > > >>>As per his time and date of birth, > > >>>Lagna :Sagitarious Jup- Sun-Sun > > >>>Moon Sign: Capricorn Sat-Sun-Sat > > >>> > > >>>My finals RPs were Sat,Moon and Sun and My choice was Cancer / > Capricorn preferably cancer. > > >>> > > >>>Indeed his moon position is in capricorn and Sun became stronger > than moon. > > >>> > > >>>Jupiter was not in RP. > > >>> > > >>>It appears that the RP has correctly reflected the Moon position, > however why Sun became strong is not known to me. > > >>> > > >>>Thanks again Lajmiji for his kind assistance and it appears that > the rule given by him. However, for selecting the proper RP, we need > more research and guidance from the seniors. > > >>> > > >>>It is better if we conduct some more tests and analyze > > >>> > > >>>Regards > > >>> > > >>>Suprakash > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>- > > >>>>Luther Rath > > >>>>@gro ups.com > > >>>>Sunday, August 16, 2009 8:15 AM > > >>>>Re: Re: The Miracle that is K.P.... > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>Thanks for your reply Dear Suprakashji. > > >>>>Wish you a nice day ahead. > > >>>>Dr. Rath > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > S.Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co.in> > > >>>>@gro ups.com > > >>>>Saturday, August 15, 2009 9:46:46 PM > > >>>> Re: The Miracle that is K.P.... > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>Venus is in star and sub of Jup in retrogression. hence > rejected.Jup is not in RP. (Wrongly I have mentioned it as day > lord..actually day lord should be Venus) > > >>>> > > >>>>As per order of strength, Sun is in 3rd position. > > >>>> > > >>>>My urge was to know the Sign position..not the sub. So the > strongest planets must guide me for sign only. > > >>>> > > >>>>Yes thre are equal possibility of being Makar Lagna and in star of > Sravana.I have selected Cancer as one of the strong RPs Sun is posited > there. > > >>>> > > >>>>Regards > > >>>> > > >>>>Suprakash > > >>>> > > >>>>@gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ....> > wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Why not in Sun Star and Venus sub in Capricorn? > > >>>>>>>>> Dr. Rath > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __ > > >>>>> Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ ...> > > >>>>> @gro ups.com > > >>>>>>>>> Friday, August 14, 2009 5:34:31 PM > > >>>>> Re: The Miracle that is K.P..... > > >>>>> > > >>>>>  > > >>>>> Today, 14 August, at 5:20:58 PM,I had an urge to know the Lagna > Position of Lajmiji. > > >>>>>>>>>  > > >>>>> At Calcutta, ruling planets are: > > >>>>>  > > >>>>> Asc star :Moon > > >>>>> Asc rasi :Saturn > > >>>>> Moon Star:Sun > > >>>>> Moon Sign:Venus > > >>>>> Day Lord:Jupiter > > >>>>>  > > >>>>> Moon is strongest being asc star, also in star of Sun, another > RP and sub of Merc, though not in RP, bur conj with Sat, asc lord. > > >>>>>>>>>  > > >>>>> Saturn in next strong being in star and sub of sun, Sun is Moon > star lord. > > >>>>>  > > >>>>> Next strong is Sun being in star of Sat and in  sub of > merc. > > >>>>>  > > >>>>>  > > >>>>> Jup is retrograde : eliminated > > >>>>>>>>>  > > >>>>> Venus : In star and sub of jup retrograde: eliminated. > > >>>>>  > > >>>>>  > > >>>>> So, Lajmiji’s sign must be : Cancer, Pushya nakstra, > Sun Sub. > > >>>>>  > > >>>>> Lajmiji, please confirm. > > >>>>>  > > >>>>>>>>>  > > >>>>>  > > >>>>>  > > >>>>> - > > >>>>> >Yogesh Lajmi > > >>>>> >@gro ups.com > > >>>>> >Cc: astro logy > > >>>>>>>>> >Friday, August 14, 2009 9:56 AM > > >>>>> >Re: The Miracle that is K.P.... > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> >Dear Azeem, > > >>>>> >         >           As > per K.P., every moment in Time is Ruled by atleast 5 Planets.... > > >>>>>>>>> >        >           >  They are,in order of strength, the Starlord of the Ascendant > Rising(at that time),the Signlord of that Ascendant,,the Moon's > starlord,the Moon's Signlord and the Day lord...recent researchers have > added the sublords of the Ascendant and Moon to these 5, making it > 7 Planets... This epoch-making discovery/invention has made our > late Guruji,Jyotish Marthand,K.S. Krishnamurthiji, immortal. ..! > > >>>>>>>>> >        >           >  These RPs play a very important role...for example, the Ruling > Planets at your Birth will play an important role in bringing about > almost every important event in your Life...and so on...there are many > applications of RPs in K.P. > > >>>>>>>>> >        >           >  With best wishes, > > >>>>> >         >           > Yogesh Lajmi, > > >>>>> >         >           >           >           >          GOOD LUCK > ! > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __ > > >>>>> astro logy <astro_logy66@ > > > >>>>> >@gro ups.com > > >>>>>>>>> >Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:32:52 PM > > >>>>> >Re: The Miracle that is K.P.... > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> >Respected Yogesh ji > > >>>>> >can you explain what is the RPs. i ll be very much thankful to > you for this act of kindness. > > >>>>>>>>> >Azeem (student of kp system of astrology) > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> >--- On Tue, 8/11/09, Bhargava Ram gd26ram (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> >>Bhargava Ram gd26ram (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > >>>>>>>>> >>Re: The Miracle that is K.P.... > > >>>>> >>@gro ups.com > > >>>>> >>Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 7:56 AM > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >>Dear Sir, > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >>As I am a learner in KP astrology can you illustrate with an > example. > > >>>>> >>Which will be helpful for learners like me. > > >>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >>Pranams. > > >>>>> >>Bhargav. > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >>--- On Mon, 10/8/09, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > > wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >>>Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > > > >>>>> >>> The Miracle that is K.P.... > > >>>>>>>>> >>> " ALL MEMBERS " <@ gro ups.com> > > >>>>> >>>Cc: " Punit Pandey " punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>, " tw853 " tw853 (AT) (DOT) > com> > > >>>>>>>>> >>>Monday, 10 August, 2009, 8:51 PM > > >>>>> >>> > > >>>>> >>> > > >>>>> >>> > > >>>>> >>>Dear MEMBERS, > > >>>>> >>>        >           >          Here's a > method of stunning a person who comes to consult you... > > >>>>>>>>> >>>        >           >         You could him > tell him his Birth Star,straightaway. ..and he will be > surprised,especiall y if he knows it... > > >>>>> >>>        >           >          Our > Guruji's daughter used to stun his clients by telling his/her > Birth Star... as he entered the room,they were sitting > in...Knowledge of K.P., alone can help one do this...to the utter > surprise of the client... > > >>>>>>>>> >>>        >           >          The RPs > at the exact time when he begins consulting you,look at your > watch(previously adjusted to the exact Standard Time)...The RPs at that > time can help you...The Lagna starlord and the signlord, in which > the Lagna at that time is transitting will be the Birth Star of the > person         > Rasi-lord ....you can inform most confidently, without even looking at > the horoscope... ! > > >>>>>>>>> >>>        >           >           > That is the 'Miracle' that only K.P. can help you perform... > > >>>>> >>>        >           >           >  K..P. followers may apply the rules for nodes,in case a node > appears...if the node is stronger...( and is in the sign of a planet and > is untenanted,take the node,as usual). > > >>>>>>>>> >>> > > >>>>> >>> Members are requested to try this out and inform their > observations at this site,please. > > >>>>> >>> > > >>>>> >>>        >           >           > With the very best wishes, > > >>>>>>>>> >>>        >           >           > Yogesh Lajmi. > > >>>>> >>>        >           >     > > >>>>> >>> > > >>>>> >>__________ _________ _________ ____ > > >>>>>>>>> recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer > Internet Explorer 8. > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Looking for local information? 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Guest guest Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009  Respected Lajmiji Just after reading your mail,I have again taken the RP at 10:28:42 AM (18-Aug-09) RPs are: Rahu Asc star Venus Asc Sign Jup Moon Star Moon moon sign Mars day lord Rahu represents Saturn being in his sign also JUP® conjoined. Ketu reptresents Moon being in Moon sign also conjoined with Moon. Moon , Saturn (proxy rahu), Venus, Jupiter combination comes again. But where is Sun? Without sun, it is never possible to fix the birth signs. Sun can only be taken if we consider semi sextile between moon and him. I don't know if it is allowed. Interestingly, venus comes again as stronger RP and Venus i s not your birth RP Regards Suprakash - Yogesh Lajmi Cc: S.Ghosh Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:04 AM Re: Re: The Miracle that is K.P....Lajmi ji Birth Time Dear Suprakash, This means that you have taken the RP's wrongly... Read KSK's instructions very carefully...first... Never mind...take the RPs after reading this mail, with the thought to correct my Birt Chart(Lajmi's BC),and write them down...now look for any conjunctions,strong aspects etc., Signs occupied by the nodes,and make note....and then you will...arrive at my exact Ascendant,by inserting the Planets as directed in the instructions as given by KSK... With best wishes, Yogesh Lajmi. GOOD LUCK ! S.Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:51:02 PM Re: The Miracle that is K.P....Lajmi ji Birth Time Respected LajmijiJupiter was not in Ruling Planet.(The day lord was Venus actually. (initially I mentioned jup wrongly)Venus was the ruling planet rejected on the ground that it is in star and sub of Jup..If I include Venus accepting your advise,where is the presence of Venus in your birth RP?RegardsSuprakash@gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Suprakash,>                         Rejecting retrograde planets from among the Ruling Planets applies only to K.P.- Horary and not to Natal horoscopy... !>                         Yogesh Lajmi.> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ ...>> @gro ups.com> Monday, August 17, 2009 6:50:43 PM> Re: Re: The Miracle that is K.P....Lajmi ji Birth Time> >  >  > Jupiter was not in RP>  > Suprakash> - > >Punit Pandey > >@gro ups.com > >Monday, August 17, 2009 5:44 PM> >Re: Re: The Miracle that is K.P....Lajmi ji Birth Time> >> > > >Dear Suprakash ji,> >> >Retrograde planet should not be eliminated from the list of RP at judgement. Only planets that are in nakshatra of retrograde planets should be eliminated. > >> >Thanks & Regards,> >> >Punit Pandey> >> >> >> >On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co.in> wrote:> >> > > >> > >>Dear all> >> > >>I have just received the feedback from Lajmiji. He has given his birth details.I don't know if there is any technical problem regarding the posting as today only I have received the same..> >> > >>As per his time and date of birth, > >>Lagna :Sagitarious    Jup- Sun-Sun> >>Moon Sign: Capricorn Sat-Sun-Sat> >> > >>My finals RPs were Sat,Moon and Sun and My choice was Cancer / Capricorn preferably cancer.> >> > >>Indeed his  moon position is in capricorn and Sun became stronger than moon.> >> > >>Jupiter was not in RP.> >> > >>It appears that the RP has correctly reflected the Moon position, however why Sun became strong is not known to me.> >> > >>Thanks again Lajmiji for his kind assistance and it appears that the rule given by him. However, for selecting the proper RP, we need more research and guidance from the seniors.> >> > >>It is better if we conduct some more tests and analyze> >> > >>Regards> >> > >>Suprakash> >> > >> > >> > >>- > >>>Luther Rath > >>>@gro ups.com > >>>Sunday, August 16, 2009 8:15 AM> >>>Re: Re: The Miracle that is K.P....> >>>> >>> > >>>Thanks for your reply Dear Suprakashji.> >>>Wish you a nice day ahead.> >>>Dr. Rath> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> S.Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co.in>> >>>@gro ups.com> >>>Saturday, August 15, 2009 9:46:46 PM> >>> Re: The Miracle that is K.P....> >>>> >>> > >>>Venus is in star and sub of Jup in retrogression. hence rejected.Jup is not in RP. (Wrongly I have mentioned it as day lord..actually day lord should be Venus)> >>>> >>>As per order of strength, Sun is in 3rd position.> >>>> >>>My urge was to know the Sign position..not the sub. So the strongest planets must guide me for sign only.> >>>> >>>Yes thre are equal possibility of being Makar Lagna and in star of Sravana..I have selected Cancer as one of the strong RPs Sun is posited there.> >>>> >>>Regards> >>>> >>>Suprakash> >>>> >>>@gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote:> >>>>> >>>> Why not in Sun Star and Venus sub in Capricorn?> >>>> Dr. Rath> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> >>>> Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ ...>> >>>> @gro ups.com> >>>> Friday, August 14, 2009 5:34:31 PM> >>>> Re: The Miracle that is K.P....> >>>> > >>>>  > >>>> Today, 14 August, at 5:20:58 PM,I had an urge to know the Lagna Position of Lajmiji.> >>>>  > >>>> At Calcutta, ruling planets are:> >>>>  > >>>> Asc star :Moon> >>>> Asc rasi :Saturn> >>>> Moon Star:Sun> >>>> Moon Sign:Venus> >>>> Day Lord:Jupiter> >>>>  > >>>> Moon is strongest being asc star, also in star of Sun, another RP and sub of Merc, though not in RP, bur conj with Sat, asc lord.> >>>>  > >>>> Saturn in next strong being in star and sub of sun, Sun is Moon star lord.> >>>>  > >>>> Next strong is Sun being in star of Sat and in  sub of merc.> >>>>  > >>>>  > >>>> Jup is retrograde : eliminated> >>>>  > >>>> Venus : In star and sub of jup retrograde: eliminated.> >>>>  > >>>>  > >>>> So, Lajmiji’s sign must be : Cancer, Pushya nakstra, Sun Sub..> >>>>  > >>>> Lajmiji, please confirm.> >>>>  > >>>>  > >>>>  > >>>>  > >>>> - > >>>> >Yogesh Lajmi > >>>> >@gro ups.com > >>>> >Cc: astro logy > >>>> >Friday, August 14, 2009 9:56 AM> >>>> >Re: The Miracle that is K.P....> >>>> >> >>>> > > >>>> >Dear Azeem,> >>>> >                   As per K.P., every moment in Time is Ruled by atleast 5 Planets...> >>>> >                   They are,in order of strength, the Starlord of the Ascendant Rising(at that time),the Signlord of that Ascendant,,the Moon's starlord,the Moon's Signlord and the Day lord...recent researchers have added the sublords of the Ascendant and Moon to these 5, making it 7 Planets... This epoch-making discovery/invention has made our late Guruji,Jyotish Marthand,K.S. Krishnamurthiji, immortal. ..!> >>>> >                   These RPs play a very important role...for example, the Ruling Planets at your Birth will play an important role in bringing about almost every important event in your Life...and so on...there are many applications of RPs in K.P.> >>>> >                   With best wishes,> >>>> >                   Yogesh Lajmi, > >>>> >                                                GOOD LUCK !> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> >>>> astro logy <astro_logy66@ >> >>>> >@gro ups.com> >>>> >Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:32:52 PM> >>>> >Re: The Miracle that is K.P....> >>>> >> >>>> > > >>>> >Respected Yogesh ji> >>>> >can you explain what is the RPs. i ll be very much thankful to you for this act of kindness..> >>>> >Azeem (student of kp system of astrology)> >>>> >> >>>> >--- On Tue, 8/11/09, Bhargava Ram <gd26ram (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>Bhargava Ram <gd26ram (AT) (DOT) . co.in>> >>>> >>Re: The Miracle that is K.P....> >>>> >>@gro ups.com> >>>> >>Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 7:56 AM> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >> > >>>> >>Dear Sir, > >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>As I am a learner in KP astrology can you illustrate with an example.> >>>> >>Which will be helpful for learners like me.> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>Pranams.> >>>> >>Bhargav.> >>>> >>> >>>> >>--- On Mon, 10/8/09, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >> >>>> >>> The Miracle that is K.P....> >>>> >>>"ALL MEMBERS" <@ gro ups.com>> >>>> >>>Cc: "Punit Pandey" <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>, "tw853" <tw853 (AT) (DOT) . com>> >>>> >>>Monday, 10 August, 2009, 8:51 PM> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>Dear MEMBERS,> >>>> >>>                           Here's a method of stunning a person who comes to consult you....> >>>> >>>                          You could him tell him his Birth Star,straightaway. . ..and he will be surprised,especiall y if he knows it...> >>>> >>>                           Our Guruji's daughter used to stun his clients by telling his/her Birth Star... as he entered the room,they were sitting in...Knowledge of K.P., alone can help one do this...to the utter surprise of the client...> >>>> >>>                           The RPs at the exact time when he begins consulting you,look at your watch(previously adjusted to the exact Standard Time)...The RPs at that time can help you...The Lagna starlord and the signlord, in which the Lagna at that time is transitting will be the Birth Star of the person         Rasi-lord ....you can inform most confidently, without even looking at the horoscope... !> >>>> >>>                            That is the 'Miracle' that only K.P. can help you perform...> >>>> >>>                             K..P. followers may apply the rules for nodes,in case a node appears...if the node is stronger...( and is in the sign of a planet and is untenanted,take the node,as usual).> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Members are requested to try this out and inform their observations at this site,please.> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>                            With the very best wishes,> >>>> >>>                            Yogesh Lajmi.> >>>> >>>                      > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>__________ _________ _________ ____> >>>> recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. > >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> __.._,_.___> Messages in this topic (2) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Calendar > Change settings via the Web ( ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional > Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Un > Recent Activity> *  23> New MembersVisit Your Group > Give Back> for Good> Get inspired> by a good cause.> Y! 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Guest guest Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Dear sir, Thank you for uncovering your inner idea behind asking the question. I have references regarding including the nodes as agents of the RPs. I am yet to find out about other planets with authenticity. Thank you again. Dr. Rath Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:37:32 AM Re: The Miracle that is K.P....Lajmi ji Birth Time Dear Lutherji.Yes thank you. I have no issues with these rules. I have issues onlywith people trying to increase the List of RP's with new rules inventedon their own which makes no sense if finally 6-8 RP's comes as theoutcome, then the whole purpose of RP's is dissolved.For instance conjunction of a PLanet with RP's certainly there must be arule of certain orbs to be taken in such cases, and the conjunction ofsuch planets as RP's must only be taken when one is actually not abe toreach anywhere with the standard RP's, but straightaway taking theconjunction of the Planets with RP Planets does notseem proper to mesomehow. One cannot treat the planet in same sign as conjunction withoutchecking the orb between the 2 planets. In same vein if aspects are tobe taken too, then why take the RP's at all. Why not talk about theHorary chart of the moment instead of using the term of "RP".best wishes,Bhaskar.@gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskarji,> I would like to quote a paragraph written in italics in page No.176 ofReader VI.> " One should not accept these ruling planets as it is. Check upwhether any of them is posited in the constellation or sub of aretrograde planet. If there is any, reject it and accept the remaining."> Dr. Rath>>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> @gro ups.com> Monday, August 17, 2009 9:02:54 PM> Re: The Miracle that is K.P....Lajmi ji BirthTime>> Â>> Dear friends,>> The KP students, followers, practitioners and Learners are themselves> making a Joke of KP by too much of deviations from the Original.>> They talk of using Subs in RP's. They talk of planets in conjunctionsof> Rp's to be used as RPs and they talk of planets aspecting the RP'salso> to be taken as RP's.>> I wonder instead of so much excersises, why dont they take all the 9> Planets as the RP's.>> I also wish someone senior here presents the Actual original rules for> RP.s including retrograde planets , or planets in RetrogradeStarLords,> with reference to both Natal and Horary Astrology.>> Bhaskar.>> @gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...>wrote:> >> > Dear Punit> > In annual numbers of KP in '93/94, I remember reading about planets> aspecting the RPs being considered as RPs.. While identifying your> lagna, if the conjunction of sa and mer (RP) had been taken,Surprakash> would have got all the RPs of your birth.> > In Mr Lajmis case Ju opposion sun, within 1 degree would have given> all the neccessary RPs> > But, what does one do with the RPs, if one doesn't know how to> interpret them.> > Even if a span of 2 hrs. had been given in Mr Lajmis case, no one> would have used sun, 3 times in coming to the right conclusion> > Regards> > Sujata> >> >> >> >> > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Punit Pandey punitp@> > @gro ups.com> > Monday, 17 August, 2009 7:27:26 PM> > Re: Re: The Miracle that is K.P....Lajmi ji> Birth Time> >> >> > Dear Suprakash ji,> >> > I read your email only. Quote -> >> > 1. "Day Lord:Jupiter"> > 2. "Jup is retrograde : eliminated"> >> > Am I missing anything?> >> > Thanks & Regards,> >> > Punit Pandey> >> >> > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> cesc.co.in> wrote:> >> >> > >> > >> > >Jupiter was not in RP> > >> > >Suprakash> > >-> > >>Punit Pandey> > >>@gro ups.com> > >>Monday, August 17, 2009 5:44 PM> > >>Re: Re: The Miracle that is K.P....Lajmi ji> Birth Time> > >>> > >>> > >>Dear Suprakash ji,> > >>> > >>Retrograde planet should not be eliminated from the list of RP at> judgement. Only planets that are in nakshatra of retrograde planets> should be eliminated.> > >>> > >>Thanks & Regards,> > >>> > >>Punit Pandey> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> cesc.co.in> wrote:> > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>Dear all> > >>>> > >>>I have just received the feedback from Lajmiji. He has given his> birth details.I don't know if there is any technical problem regarding> the posting as today only I have received the same.> > >>>> > >>>As per his time and date of birth,> > >>>Lagna :Sagitarious Jup- Sun-Sun> > >>>Moon Sign: Capricorn Sat-Sun-Sat> > >>>> > >>>My finals RPs were Sat,Moon and Sun and My choice was Cancer /> Capricorn preferably cancer.> > >>>> > >>>Indeed his moon position is in capricorn and Sun became stronger> than moon.> > >>>> > >>>Jupiter was not in RP.> > >>>> > >>>It appears that the RP has correctly reflected the Moon position,> however why Sun became strong is not known to me.> > >>>> > >>>Thanks again Lajmiji for his kind assistance and it appears that> the rule given by him. However, for selecting the proper RP, we need> more research and guidance from the seniors.> > >>>> > >>>It is better if we conduct some more tests and analyze> > >>>> > >>>Regards> > >>>> > >>>Suprakash> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>-> > >>>>Luther Rath> > >>>>@gro ups.com> > >>>>Sunday, August 16, 2009 8:15 AM> > >>>>Re: Re: The Miracle that is K.P....> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>Thanks for your reply Dear Suprakashji.> > >>>>Wish you a nice day ahead.> > >>>>Dr. Rath> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > ____________ _________ _________ __> > S.Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co.in>> > >>>>@gro ups.com> > >>>>Saturday, August 15, 2009 9:46:46 PM> > >>>> Re: The Miracle that is K.P....> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>Venus is in star and sub of Jup in retrogression. hence> rejected.Jup is not in RP. (Wrongly I have mentioned it as day> lord..actually day lord should be Venus)> > >>>>> > >>>>As per order of strength, Sun is in 3rd position.> > >>>>> > >>>>My urge was to know the Sign position..not the sub. So the> strongest planets must guide me for sign only.> > >>>>> > >>>>Yes thre are equal possibility of being Makar Lagna and in starof> Sravana.I have selected Cancer as one of the strong RPs Sun is posited> there.> > >>>>> > >>>>Regards> > >>>>> > >>>>Suprakash> > >>>>> > >>>>@gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther> wrote:> > >>>>>> > >>>>> Why not in Sun Star and Venus sub in Capricorn?> > >>>>>>>>> Dr. Rath> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> > >>>>> Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ ...>> > >>>>> @gro ups.com> > >>>>>>>>> Friday, August 14, 2009 5:34:31 PM> > >>>>> Re: The Miracle that is K.P.....> > >>>>>> > >>>>> Â> > >>>>> Today, 14 August, at 5:20:58 PM,I had an urge to know theLagna> Position of Lajmiji.> > >>>>>>>>> Â> > >>>>> At Calcutta, ruling planets are:> > >>>>> Â> > >>>>> Asc star :Moon> > >>>>> Asc rasi :Saturn> > >>>>> Moon Star:Sun> > >>>>> Moon Sign:Venus> > >>>>> Day Lord:Jupiter> > >>>>> Â> > >>>>> Moon is strongest being asc star, also in star of Sun, another> RP and sub of Merc, though not in RP, bur conj with Sat, asc lord.> > >>>>>>>>> Â> > >>>>> Saturn in next strong being in star and sub of sun, Sun isMoon> star lord.> > >>>>> Â> > >>>>> Next strong is Sun being in star of Sat and in  subof> merc.> > >>>>> Â> > >>>>> Â> > >>>>> Jup is retrograde : eliminated> > >>>>>>>>> Â> > >>>>> Venus : In star and sub of jup retrograde: eliminated.> > >>>>> Â> > >>>>> Â> > >>>>> So, Lajmiji’s sign must be : Cancer,Pushya nakstra,> Sun Sub.> > >>>>> Â> > >>>>> Lajmiji, please confirm.> > >>>>> Â> > >>>>>>>>> Â> > >>>>> Â> > >>>>> Â> > >>>>> -> > >>>>> >Yogesh Lajmi> > >>>>> >@gro ups.com> > >>>>> >Cc: astro logy> > >>>>>>>>> >Friday, August 14, 2009 9:56 AM> > >>>>> >Re: The Miracle that is K.P....> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >Â> > >>>>> >Dear Azeem,> > >>>>> >    Â   Â>     Â     As> per K.P., every moment in Time is Ruled by atleast 5Planets....> > >>>>>>>>> >   Â   Â>     Â    Â>  They are,in order of strength, the Starlord of theAscendant> Rising(at that time),the Signlord of that Ascendant,,the Moon's> starlord,the Moon's Signlord and the Day lord...recent researchershave> added the sublords of the Ascendant and Moon to these 5,Âmaking it> 7 Planets... This epoch-making discovery/invention has madeour> late Guruji,Jyotish Marthand,K.S. Krishnamurthiji, immortal. ..!> > >>>>>>>>> >   Â   Â>     Â    Â>  These RPs play a very important role...for example, theRuling> Planets at your Birth will play an important role in bringing about> almost every important event in your Life...and so on...there are many> applications of RPs in K.P.> > >>>>>>>>> >   Â   Â>     Â    Â>  With best wishes,> > >>>>> >    Â   Â>     Â    Â> Yogesh Lajmi,Â> > >>>>> >    Â   Â>     Â    Â>     Â    Â>     Â    Â>     Â    GOOD LUCK> !> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> > >>>>> astro logy <astro_logy66@ >> > >>>>> >@gro ups.com> > >>>>>>>>> >Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:32:52 PM> > >>>>> >Re: The Miracle that is K.P....> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >Â> > >>>>> >Respected Yogesh ji> > >>>>> >can you explain what is the RPs. i ll be very much thankfulto> you for this act of kindness.> > >>>>>>>>> >Azeem (student of kp system of astrology)> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >--- On Tue, 8/11/09, Bhargava Ram gd26ram (AT) (DOT) co.in>wrote:> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >>Bhargava Ram gd26ram (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > >>>>>>>>> >>Re: The Miracle that is K.P....> > >>>>> >>@gro ups.com> > >>>>> >>Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 7:56 AM> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>Â> > >>>>> >>Dear Sir,> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>As I am a learner in KP astrology can you illustrate with an> example.> > >>>>> >>Which will be helpful for learners like me.> > >>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>Pranams.> > >>>>> >>Bhargav.> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>--- On Mon, 10/8/09, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >> wrote:> > >>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>>Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >> > >>>>> >>> The Miracle that is K.P....> > >>>>>>>>> >>>"ALL MEMBERS" <@ gro ups.com>> > >>>>> >>>Cc: "Punit Pandey" punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>, "tw853" tw853 (AT) (DOT) > com>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>Monday, 10 August, 2009, 8:51 PM> > >>>>> >>>> > >>>>> >>>> > >>>>> >>>Â> > >>>>> >>>Dear MEMBERS,> > >>>>> >>>    Â  Â>     Â    Â>     Â    Here's a> method of stunning a person who comes to consult you...> > >>>>>>>>> >>>   Â   Â>     Â    Â>     Â   You could him> tell him his Birth Star,straightaway. ..and he will be> surprised,especiall y if he knows it...> > >>>>> >>>    Â  Â>     Â    Â>     Â    Our> Guruji's daughter used to stun his clients by tellinghis/herÂ> Birth Star... as he entered the room,they were sitting> in...Knowledge of K.P., alone can help one do this...to the utter> surprise of the client...> > >>>>>>>>> >>>   Â   Â>     Â    Â>     Â    The RPs> at the exact time when he begins consulting you,look at your> watch(previously adjusted to the exact Standard Time)...The RPs atthat> time can help you...The Lagna starlord and the signlord, inwhich> the Lagna at that time is transitting will be the Birth Star of the> person    Â   Â> Rasi-lord ....you can inform most confidently, without even looking at> the horoscope... !> > >>>>>>>>> >>>   Â   Â>     Â    Â>     Â    Â> That is the 'Miracle' that only K.P. can help you perform...> > >>>>> >>>    Â  Â>     Â    Â>     Â    Â>  K..P. followers may apply the rules for nodes,in case anode> appears...if the node is stronger...( and is in the sign of a planetand> is untenanted,take the node,as usual).> > >>>>>>>>> >>>> > >>>>> >>> Members are requested to try this out andinform their> observations at this site,please.> > >>>>> >>>Â> > >>>>> >>>    Â  Â>     Â    Â>     Â    Â> With the very best wishes,> > >>>>>>>>> >>>   Â   Â>     Â    Â>     Â    Â> Yogesh Lajmi.> > >>>>> >>>    Â  Â>     Â    Â>    Â> > >>>>> >>>> > >>>>> >>__________ _________ _________ ____> > >>>>>>>>> recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer> Internet Explorer 8.> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>> >> >> >> >> > Looking for local information? 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Guest guest Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Dear Sirs, There is no reference required for nodes acting as reps of Planets. When we discuss, it is a non mentionable pre-requisite that such basic rules are already understood to have been read and learnt in their initial years of KP Study, by the persons discussing . Yes, I was talking about other planets only. regards/Bhaskar. , Luther Rath <rathluther wrote: > > Dear sir, Thank you for uncovering your inner idea behind asking the question. I have references regarding including the nodes as agents of the RPs. I am yet to find out about other planets with authenticity. > Thank you again. > Dr. Rath > > > > > ________________________________ > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > > Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:37:32 AM > Re: The Miracle that is K.P....Lajmi ji Birth Time > >  > > Dear Lutherji. > > Yes thank you. I have no issues with these rules. I have issues only > with people trying to increase the List of RP's with new rules invented > on their own which makes no sense if finally 6-8 RP's comes as the > outcome, then the whole purpose of RP's is dissolved. > > For instance conjunction of a PLanet with RP's certainly there must be a > rule of certain orbs to be taken in such cases, and the conjunction of > such planets as RP's must only be taken when one is actually not abe to > reach anywhere with the standard RP's, but straightaway taking the > conjunction of the Planets with RP Planets does notseem proper to me > somehow. One cannot treat the planet in same sign as conjunction without > checking the orb between the 2 planets. In same vein if aspects are to > be taken too, then why take the RP's at all. Why not talk about the > Horary chart of the moment instead of using the term of " RP " . > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > @gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > I would like to quote a paragraph written in italics in page No.176 of > Reader VI. > > " One should not accept these ruling planets as it is. Check up > whether any of them is posited in the constellation or sub of a > retrograde planet. If there is any, reject it and accept the remaining. " > > Dr. Rath > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > @gro ups.com > > Monday, August 17, 2009 9:02:54 PM > > Re: The Miracle that is K.P....Lajmi ji Birth > Time > > > >  > > > > Dear friends, > > > > The KP students, followers, practitioners and Learners are themselves > > making a Joke of KP by too much of deviations from the Original. > > > > They talk of using Subs in RP's. They talk of planets in conjunctions > of > > Rp's to be used as RPs and they talk of planets aspecting the RP's > also > > to be taken as RP's. > > > > I wonder instead of so much excersises, why dont they take all the 9 > > Planets as the RP's. > > > > I also wish someone senior here presents the Actual original rules for > > RP.s including retrograde planets , or planets in Retrograde > StarLords, > > with reference to both Natal and Horary Astrology. > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > @gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Punit > > > In annual numbers of KP in '93/94, I remember reading about planets > > aspecting the RPs being considered as RPs.. While identifying your > > lagna, if the conjunction of sa and mer (RP) had been taken, > Surprakash > > would have got all the RPs of your birth. > > > In Mr Lajmis case Ju opposion sun, within 1 degree would have given > > all the neccessary RPs > > > But, what does one do with the RPs, if one doesn't know how to > > interpret them. > > > Even if a span of 2 hrs. had been given in Mr Lajmis case, no one > > would have used sun, 3 times in coming to the right conclusion > > > Regards > > > Sujata > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Punit Pandey punitp@ > > > @gro ups.com > > > Monday, 17 August, 2009 7:27:26 PM > > > Re: Re: The Miracle that is K.P....Lajmi ji > > Birth Time > > > > > > > > > Dear Suprakash ji, > > > > > > I read your email only. Quote - > > > > > > 1. " Day Lord:Jupiter " > > > 2. " Jup is retrograde : eliminated " > > > > > > Am I missing anything? > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ > > cesc.co.in> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Jupiter was not in RP > > > > > > > >Suprakash > > > >- > > > >>Punit Pandey > > > >>@gro ups.com > > > >>Monday, August 17, 2009 5:44 PM > > > >>Re: Re: The Miracle that is K.P....Lajmi ji > > Birth Time > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>Dear Suprakash ji, > > > >> > > > >>Retrograde planet should not be eliminated from the list of RP at > > judgement. Only planets that are in nakshatra of retrograde planets > > should be eliminated. > > > >> > > > >>Thanks & Regards, > > > >> > > > >>Punit Pandey > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ > > cesc.co.in> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>Dear all > > > >>> > > > >>>I have just received the feedback from Lajmiji. He has given his > > birth details.I don't know if there is any technical problem regarding > > the posting as today only I have received the same. > > > >>> > > > >>>As per his time and date of birth, > > > >>>Lagna :Sagitarious Jup- Sun-Sun > > > >>>Moon Sign: Capricorn Sat-Sun-Sat > > > >>> > > > >>>My finals RPs were Sat,Moon and Sun and My choice was Cancer / > > Capricorn preferably cancer. > > > >>> > > > >>>Indeed his moon position is in capricorn and Sun became stronger > > than moon. > > > >>> > > > >>>Jupiter was not in RP. > > > >>> > > > >>>It appears that the RP has correctly reflected the Moon position, > > however why Sun became strong is not known to me. > > > >>> > > > >>>Thanks again Lajmiji for his kind assistance and it appears that > > the rule given by him. However, for selecting the proper RP, we need > > more research and guidance from the seniors. > > > >>> > > > >>>It is better if we conduct some more tests and analyze > > > >>> > > > >>>Regards > > > >>> > > > >>>Suprakash > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>- > > > >>>>Luther Rath > > > >>>>@gro ups.com > > > >>>>Sunday, August 16, 2009 8:15 AM > > > >>>>Re: Re: The Miracle that is K.P.... > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>>Thanks for your reply Dear Suprakashji. > > > >>>>Wish you a nice day ahead. > > > >>>>Dr. Rath > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > S.Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co.in> > > > >>>>@gro ups.com > > > >>>>Saturday, August 15, 2009 9:46:46 PM > > > >>>> Re: The Miracle that is K.P.... > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>>Venus is in star and sub of Jup in retrogression. hence > > rejected.Jup is not in RP. (Wrongly I have mentioned it as day > > lord..actually day lord should be Venus) > > > >>>> > > > >>>>As per order of strength, Sun is in 3rd position. > > > >>>> > > > >>>>My urge was to know the Sign position..not the sub. So the > > strongest planets must guide me for sign only. > > > >>>> > > > >>>>Yes thre are equal possibility of being Makar Lagna and in star > of > > Sravana.I have selected Cancer as one of the strong RPs Sun is posited > > there. > > > >>>> > > > >>>>Regards > > > >>>> > > > >>>>Suprakash > > > >>>> > > > >>>>@gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ > ...> > > wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Why not in Sun Star and Venus sub in Capricorn? > > > >>>>>>>>> Dr. Rath > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > >>>>> Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ ...> > > > >>>>> @gro ups.com > > > >>>>>>>>> Friday, August 14, 2009 5:34:31 PM > > > >>>>> Re: The Miracle that is K.P..... > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> ÃÆ'‚ > > > >>>>> Today, 14 August, at 5:20:58 PM,I had an urge to know the > Lagna > > Position of Lajmiji. > > > >>>>>>>>> ÃÆ'‚ > > > >>>>> At Calcutta, ruling planets are: > > > >>>>> ÃÆ'‚ > > > >>>>> Asc star :Moon > > > >>>>> Asc rasi :Saturn > > > >>>>> Moon Star:Sun > > > >>>>> Moon Sign:Venus > > > >>>>> Day Lord:Jupiter > > > >>>>> ÃÆ'‚ > > > >>>>> Moon is strongest being asc star, also in star of Sun, another > > RP and sub of Merc, though not in RP, bur conj with Sat, asc lord. > > > >>>>>>>>> ÃÆ'‚ > > > >>>>> Saturn in next strong being in star and sub of sun, Sun is > Moon > > star lord. > > > >>>>> ÃÆ'‚ > > > >>>>> Next strong is Sun being in star of Sat and in ÃÆ'‚ sub > of > > merc. > > > >>>>> ÃÆ'‚ > > > >>>>> ÃÆ'‚ > > > >>>>> Jup is retrograde : eliminated > > > >>>>>>>>> ÃÆ'‚ > > > >>>>> Venus : In star and sub of jup retrograde: eliminated. > > > >>>>> ÃÆ'‚ > > > >>>>> ÃÆ'‚ > > > >>>>> So, LajmijiÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢s sign must be : Cancer, > Pushya nakstra, > > Sun Sub. > > > >>>>> ÃÆ'‚ > > > >>>>> Lajmiji, please confirm. > > > >>>>> ÃÆ'‚ > > > >>>>>>>>> ÃÆ'‚ > > > >>>>> ÃÆ'‚ > > > >>>>> ÃÆ'‚ > > > >>>>> - > > > >>>>> >Yogesh Lajmi > > > >>>>> >@gro ups.com > > > >>>>> >Cc: astro logy > > > >>>>>>>>> >Friday, August 14, 2009 9:56 AM > > > >>>>> >Re: The Miracle that is K.P.... > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> >ÃÆ'‚ > > > >>>>> >Dear Azeem, > > > >>>>> >ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ As > > per K.P., every momentÃÆ'‚ in Time is Ruled by atleast 5 > Planets.... > > > >>>>>>>>> >ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > ÃÆ'‚ They are,in order of strength, the Starlord of the > Ascendant > > Rising(at that time),the Signlord of that Ascendant,,the Moon's > > starlord,the Moon's Signlord and the Day lord...recent researchers > have > > added the sublords of the Ascendant and Moon to these 5,ÃÆ'‚ > making it > > 7 Planets...ÃÆ'‚ This epoch-making discovery/invention has made > our > > late Guruji,Jyotish Marthand,K.S. Krishnamurthiji, immortal. ..! > > > >>>>>>>>> >ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > ÃÆ'‚ These RPs play a very important role...for example, the > Ruling > > Planets at your Birth will play an important role in bringing about > > almost every important event in your Life...and so on...there are many > > applications of RPs in K.P. > > > >>>>>>>>> >ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > ÃÆ'‚ With best wishes, > > > >>>>> >ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > Yogesh Lajmi,ÃÆ'‚ > > > >>>>> >ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ GOOD LUCK > > ! > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > >>>>> astro logy <astro_logy66@ > > > > >>>>> >@gro ups.com > > > >>>>>>>>> >Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:32:52 PM > > > >>>>> >Re: The Miracle that is K.P.... > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> >ÃÆ'‚ > > > >>>>> >Respected Yogesh ji > > > >>>>> >can you explain what is the RPs. i ll be very much thankful > to > > you for this act of kindness. > > > >>>>>>>>> >Azeem (student of kp system of astrology) > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> >--- On Tue, 8/11/09, Bhargava Ram gd26ram (AT) (DOT) co.in> > wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> >>Bhargava Ram gd26ram (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > >>>>>>>>> >>Re: The Miracle that is K.P.... > > > >>>>> >>@gro ups.com > > > >>>>> >>Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 7:56 AM > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >>ÃÆ'‚ > > > >>>>> >>Dear Sir, > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >>As I am a learner in KP astrology can you illustrate with an > > example. > > > >>>>> >>Which will be helpful for learners like me. > > > >>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >>Pranams. > > > >>>>> >>Bhargav. > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >>--- On Mon, 10/8/09, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > > > wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >>>Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > > > > >>>>> >>> The Miracle that is K.P.... > > > >>>>>>>>> >>> " ALL MEMBERS " <@ gro ups.com> > > > >>>>> >>>Cc: " Punit Pandey " punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>, " tw853 " tw853 (AT) (DOT) > > com> > > > >>>>>>>>> >>>Monday, 10 August, 2009, 8:51 PM > > > >>>>> >>> > > > >>>>> >>> > > > >>>>> >>>ÃÆ'‚ > > > >>>>> >>>Dear MEMBERS, > > > >>>>> >>>ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ Here's a > > method of stunning a person who comes to consult you... > > > >>>>>>>>> >>>ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ You could him > > tell him his Birth Star,straightaway. ..and he will be > > surprised,especiall y if he knows it... > > > >>>>> >>>ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ Our > > Guruji's daughter used to stun his clients by telling > his/herÃÆ'‚ > > Birth Star...ÃÆ'‚ as he entered the room,they were sitting > > in...Knowledge of K.P., alone can help one do this...to the utter > > surprise of the client... > > > >>>>>>>>> >>>ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ The RPs > > at the exact time when he begins consulting you,look at your > > watch(previously adjusted to the exact Standard Time)...The RPs at > that > > time can help you...The Lagna starlord and the signlord,ÃÆ'‚ in > which > > the Lagna at that time is transitting will be the Birth Star of the > > personÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > Rasi-lord ....you can inform most confidently, without even looking at > > the horoscope... ! > > > >>>>>>>>> >>>ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > That is the 'Miracle' that only K.P. can help you perform... > > > >>>>> >>>ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > ÃÆ'‚ K..P. followers may apply the rules for nodes,in case a > node > > appears...if the node is stronger...( and is in the sign of a planet > and > > is untenanted,take the node,as usual). > > > >>>>>>>>> >>> > > > >>>>> >>>ÃÆ'‚ Members are requested to try this out and > inform their > > observations at this site,please. > > > >>>>> >>>ÃÆ'‚ > > > >>>>> >>>ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > With the very best wishes, > > > >>>>>>>>> >>>ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > Yogesh Lajmi. > > > >>>>> >>>ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > > >>>>> >>> > > > >>>>> >>__________ _________ _________ ____ > > > >>>>>>>>> recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer > > Internet Explorer 8. > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for local information? 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