Any children? When? MY EXPERIENCE TODAY

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22 Aug

2009

 

DOJ: 22 Aug

2009, TOJ: 10:30.06 hours, POJ: Auckland, New Zealand

 

Question: Any

children? When?  KP 3

 

 

 

Genuineness of Question

 

· SLC(1) = Sun in Ketu/Mars

o Ketu S(5,3,10-11) in S(2,5,11) è ok

· Mon in H(5) in S(2,5,11) è ok

 

 

 

Promised?

 

· SLC(5) = Sat in Star Sun/ Sub Mon

· Sat, Sun and Mon all are in Rasi(5), Barren sign.  First impression

is Its difficult to have children

·   Sat signifies (4, 5, 5, 10-11) in order of strength.  That is, denying and promising children

· Star Lord Sun signifies (3, 4,-, 5) in order of strength.  I would interpret some ‘Negotiation’, denial and then

promised. What does Negotiation means here?  House 3 is 11th house

from 5th house. I guess some help would be given to house 5 by the

significations of 3rd house by some ‘negotiation’.  In

this case, the word ‘negotiation’ may mean some sort of help with

pregnancy

· Sub Lord Mon signifies (3,5,2-7,4)  è Mon in Barren

sign but by signification may be possible

· Mon also signifies FERTILITY

· Mon in Rasi Mon is at 26 deg 4 min and

Sat is at 27 deg 48 min, both in Rasi(5). Punarphoo Yoga.  Which normally means

success in ‘Subsequent attempt’ and/or with some frustration and

delay

· Let’s see Mon.  Mon in Star Ven/Sub Ketu

a. Ven in Rasi(4), fruitful sign, S(10,3,9,2-7)

b. Ketu, abortive planet, in R(4), fruitful sign, S(5,3,10-11,4)

 

So the overall picture, in a nutshell is:

 

 

Mon signifies Fertility problem and is in Barren sign, conjuct

Sat  creating Punarphoo Yoga, imlying frustration and delay.  By nature,

Mon might give some hopes, as it signifies Mind and is ahead of Sun, just

come out of Amavasya.

Mon is trapped between Sun and Sat, is just hoping the things

would get okay by the role of 3rd house, which I said,

‘negotiation’, I would say, may be Doctors would try to

interfere and/or treat  the Barren sign.  Sat must be causing some obstruction.

Sub Lord Cusp(5), Sat DOES NOT promise children, by being in

Barren sign.  But another concept, I think, as my personal thought, may

be by some artifical and/or medical help the person might conceive.  If

conceived, can she hold the embryo?

Lets see Navamsa chart.  H(5) has Ketu in it, again the

abortive planet.

Lets see RPs, RP =  Jup R, Ven, Ven, Sun, Sat (Mon with Sat

and Ketu with Ven, Rahu in Sat sign) è Jup R, 2 Ven,

(Ketu), Sun, Sat (Mon), Rahu

If I still continue, lets take significtors S(2,5,11)

S(2,5,11) =2Ketu, 2Mon, 3MErc, 3Sat, Rahu,Sun

Common with RP = 2Ketu, Mon, 3Sat,  Rahu, Sun

Ignore Merc, Jup, VEn who are in either in Star or  Sub  of

retro Jup

Dasa = VEn is going on at present till July 2010. Ven in Star

JUp R Sub Mon,  Star Lord Jup is NOT helpful at all

Next Dasa = Sun in Ketu/Mars.  Ketu in Fruitful sign and

signifies (5,3,10-11).  Star Lord Ketu and Sub Lord mars are in house(3)

from Lagna, which si H(11) from H(5), can be fruitful

Conclusion: Though Chart denies

children, but I think, to be in the positive side, Pregnancy might be

just possible with help of Medical Treatment and utmost care as I see

Fertility problem.  Provided some concrete Astrological remedies are done

I am not giving here the time frame

 

 

 

After I told

all the above, the lady said, “Can you please

look at my husbands chart”

 

 

Then  I went through her natal chart (23 Nov 1972, 17:18

hours, Wellington, New Zealand) first and discovered the followings:

 

Consider H(5)

 

Lord of H(5) = Sun in House (8), area of Ovaries, etc

Suh is between Masr,vEN and Rahu, Jup, MErc R

Sun is opposite Sat R

Mon for fertility, is trapped between Satr R, Ketu and Transit

Ketu è that gave me further confidence that I am on the right track

Mon is oopiste Jup Rè giving some hoeps, but Jup R is with

Rahu, that may cause Illusion or give some ‘false picture’

 

 

 

 

 

Then I went into husbands chart. (16 Apr 1972, 5:00 hours,

Auckland, New Zealand)

 

 I observed the following points:

a. H(5) is occupied by Ketu  and also transited by Ketu too. Very

strong Abortive configuration.

b. H(5) is aspected by Sat

c. Lord H(5) is Mon, is trapped between Sun and Sat, casuing

separativeness, aspected by Jup, giving some hopes by Dhanvantri

d. I thought of checking VEn for the quality of Sperm. VEn is between

Sat and Mars, indeed, the person needs ‘Medical Help’.  VEn is

aspected by Rahu, the illusion, and aspected by Tr Jup R too, and Tr Rahu too. 

Giving some hope, but might be False hopes.

e. Dasa = Rahu, which signifes (1,10,6) all negative houses for having

children, 

f.

I think this comfiguarion

supports more for Adoption than having own

children

g. I felt, VEn wishes to move ahead, but it finds Mars there and is

puuled back by Sat

h. D9 chart, Mona dn Sun both are getting Jups aspect,  I would again

say, some hoep, but with only medical help

 

Lets ask the male for KP number.  HE said, ‘Any

children,  when?’ Kp 8.  Ths chart was constructed on 22 Aug 2009, 11:44

hours, Auckland, New Zealand

 

 

Genuineness of the question

 

SLC(1) =  Sat in House5 è ok

Mon in house 5 è ok

 

Promised

 

SLC(11) = Ven in Jup R/Mon

Ven conj Ketu, abortive planet

Ven in R(4) fruitful sign, S(10,3,9-12,2-7) è

possible

Jup R till mid Oct 2009. But Jup S(2,10,1-8,9-12) è

possible but some problems

Mon in R(5) in Barren sign, S(4,5,5,4) è

possible but what about Barren sign?

 

SLC(5) = Mon in barren Sign with Sat and Sun, and all in barren

sign

Mon in Sun/Sun

Sun S(3,4,5) è in barren sign, with Sat, è

indicated frustration ‘SUBSEQUENT ATTEMPTS, delay and still very

less chances.

RP = Sat, Mars, 2 Sun, Sat, Mon

S(2,5,11) =  2 Mars, Jup R, 2 Ketu, 2 Mon, 2 MErc, 3 Sat, Rahu,

VEn

Dasa = Sun S(3,4,5) è very

difficucult

 

 

 

..

 

After I finishes all then talking

 

The lady told me:

 

 

We are going through second round of IVF

Next week we would know whether its successful or not

Husband has Lower Sperm Count

 

 

I have recommended some Remedies.  I did not wish to say

NEGATIVE thing.  But diplomatically I have tried to tell them that they can

tryfor some time with Medical and Ayurvedic help,  Then we will discuss in next

session

 

 

 

I am tired of typing  Now. 

 

Can anybody help mw with ethis and tell me the end result

 

 

Ravinder

Grover

[Guest guest]

Dear Ravinderji,

It is a marvelous analysis. Wonderful.

Dr. Rath

 

 

 

Ravinder Grover <rgrover Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 12:30:07 PM Any children? When? MY EXPERIENCE TODAY

 

 

22 Aug 2009

 

DOJ: 22 Aug 2009, TOJ: 10:30.06 hours, POJ: Auckland, New Zealand

 

Question: Any children? When? KP 3

 

 

 

Genuineness of Question

· SLC(1) = Sun in Ketu/Mars

o Ketu S(5,3,10-11) in S(2,5,11) è ok

· Mon in H(5) in S(2,5,11) è ok

 

 

 

Promised?

· SLC(5) = Sat in Star Sun/ Sub Mon

· Sat, Sun and Mon all are in Rasi(5), Barren sign. First impression is Its difficult to have children

· Sat signifies (4, 5, 5, 10-11) in order of strength. That is, denying and promising children

· Star Lord Sun signifies (3, 4,-, 5) in order of strength. I would interpret some ‘Negotiation’, denial and then promised. What does Negotiation means here? House 3 is 11th house from 5th house. I guess some help would be given to house 5 by the significations of 3rd house by some ‘negotiation’. In this case, the word ‘negotiation’ may mean some sort of help with pregnancy

· Sub Lord Mon signifies (3,5,2-7,4) è Mon in Barren sign but by signification may be possible

· Mon also signifies FERTILITY

· Mon in Rasi Mon is at 26 deg 4 min and Sat is at 27 deg 48 min, both in Rasi(5). Punarphoo Yoga. Which normally means success in ‘Subsequent attempt’ and/or with some frustration and delay

· Let’s see Mon. Mon in Star Ven/Sub Ketu

a. Ven in Rasi(4), fruitful sign, S(10,3,9,2-7)

b. Ketu, abortive planet, in R(4), fruitful sign, S(5,3,10-11, 4)

 

So the overall picture, in a nutshell is:

 

 

Mon signifies Fertility problem and is in Barren sign, conjuct Sat creating Punarphoo Yoga, imlying frustration and delay. By nature, Mon might give some hopes, as it signifies Mind and is ahead of Sun, just come out of Amavasya.

Mon is trapped between Sun and Sat, is just hoping the things would get okay by the role of 3rd house, which I said, ‘negotiation’, I would say, may be Doctors would try to interfere and/or treat the Barren sign. Sat must be causing some obstruction.

Sub Lord Cusp(5), Sat DOES NOT promise children, by being in Barren sign. But another concept, I think, as my personal thought, may be by some artifical and/or medical help the person might conceive. If conceived, can she hold the embryo?

Lets see Navamsa chart. H(5) has Ketu in it, again the abortive planet.

Lets see RPs, RP = Jup R, Ven, Ven, Sun, Sat (Mon with Sat and Ketu with Ven, Rahu in Sat sign) è Jup R, 2 Ven, (Ketu), Sun, Sat (Mon), Rahu

If I still continue, lets take significtors S(2,5,11)

S(2,5,11) =2Ketu, 2Mon, 3MErc, 3Sat, Rahu,Sun

Common with RP = 2Ketu, Mon, 3Sat, Rahu, Sun

Ignore Merc, Jup, VEn who are in either in Star or Sub of retro Jup

Dasa = VEn is going on at present till July 2010. Ven in Star JUp R Sub Mon, Star Lord Jup is NOT helpful at all

Next Dasa = Sun in Ketu/Mars. Ketu in Fruitful sign and signifies (5,3,10-11). Star Lord Ketu and Sub Lord mars are in house(3) from Lagna, which si H(11) from H(5), can be fruitful

Conclusion: Though Chart denies children, but I think, to be in the positive side, Pregnancy might be just possible with help of Medical Treatment and utmost care as I see Fertility problem. Provided some concrete Astrological remedies are done

I am not giving here the time frame

 

After I told all the above, the lady said, “Can you please look at my husbands chartâ€

 

 

Then I went through her natal chart (23 Nov 1972, 17:18 hours, Wellington, New Zealand) first and discovered the followings:

 

Consider H(5)

 

Lord of H(5) = Sun in House (8), area of Ovaries, etc

Suh is between Masr,vEN and Rahu, Jup, MErc R

Sun is opposite Sat R

Mon for fertility, is trapped between Satr R, Ketu and Transit Ketu è that gave me further confidence that I am on the right track

Mon is oopiste Jup Rè giving some hoeps, but Jup R is with Rahu, that may cause Illusion or give some ‘false picture’

 

 

 

Then I went into husbands chart. (16 Apr 1972, 5:00 hours, Auckland, New Zealand)

I observed the following points:

a. H(5) is occupied by Ketu and also transited by Ketu too. Very strong Abortive configuration.

b. H(5) is aspected by Sat

c. Lord H(5) is Mon, is trapped between Sun and Sat, casuing separativeness, aspected by Jup, giving some hopes by Dhanvantri

d. I thought of checking VEn for the quality of Sperm. VEn is between Sat and Mars, indeed, the person needs ‘Medical Help’. VEn is aspected by Rahu, the illusion, and aspected by Tr Jup R too, and Tr Rahu too. Giving some hope, but might be False hopes.

e. Dasa = Rahu, which signifes (1,10,6) all negative houses for having children,

f. I think this comfiguarion supports more for Adoption than having own children

g. I felt, VEn wishes to move ahead, but it finds Mars there and is puuled back by Sat

h. D9 chart, Mona dn Sun both are getting Jups aspect, I would again say, some hoep, but with only medical help

 

Lets ask the male for KP number. HE said, ‘Any children, when?’ Kp 8. Ths chart was constructed on 22 Aug 2009, 11:44 hours, Auckland, New Zealand

 

 

Genuineness of the question

 

SLC(1) = Sat in House5 è ok

Mon in house 5 è ok

Promised

 

SLC(11) = Ven in Jup R/Mon

Ven conj Ketu, abortive planet

Ven in R(4) fruitful sign, S(10,3,9-12, 2-7) è possible

Jup R till mid Oct 2009. But Jup S(2,10,1-8,9- 12) è possible but some problems

Mon in R(5) in Barren sign, S(4,5,5,4) è possible but what about Barren sign?

SLC(5) = Mon in barren Sign with Sat and Sun, and all in barren sign

Mon in Sun/Sun

Sun S(3,4,5) è in barren sign, with Sat, è indicated frustration ‘SUBSEQUENT ATTEMPTS, delay and still very less chances.

RP = Sat, Mars, 2 Sun, Sat, Mon

S(2,5,11) = 2 Mars, Jup R, 2 Ketu, 2 Mon, 2 MErc, 3 Sat, Rahu, VEn

Dasa = Sun S(3,4,5) è very difficucult

 

 

..

 

After I finishes all then talking

 

The lady told me:

 

 

We are going through second round of IVF

Next week we would know whether its successful or not

Husband has Lower Sperm Count

 

I have recommended some Remedies. I did not wish to say NEGATIVE thing. But diplomatically I have tried to tell them that they can tryfor some time with Medical and Ayurvedic help, Then we will discuss in next session

 

 

 

I am tired of typing Now.

 

Can anybody help mw with ethis and tell me the end result

 

 

Ravinder Grover

[Guest guest]

24 Aug 2009

 

Thanks Sir.  I am a student.

 

RG

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Luther

Rath

Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:15 AM

 

Re: Any children? When? MY EXPERIENCE TODAY

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ravinderji,

 

 

It is a marvelous analysis. Wonderful.

 

 

Dr. Rath

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ravinder Grover

<rgrover

 

Saturday, August 22, 2009 12:30:07 PM

Any children? When? MY EXPERIENCE TODAY

 

 

 

22 Aug 2009

 

DOJ: 22 Aug 2009, TOJ: 10:30.06 hours,

POJ: Auckland, New Zealand

 

Question: Any children? When? KP

3

 

 

 

Genuineness

of Question

 

· SLC(1) =

Sun in Ketu/Mars

o Ketu S(5,3,10-11) in S(2,5,11) è ok

· Mon in

H(5) in S(2,5,11) è ok

 

 

 

Promised?

 

· SLC(5) =

Sat in Star Sun/ Sub Mon

· Sat, Sun

and Mon all are in Rasi(5), Barren sign. First impression is Its

difficult to have children

· Sat signifies (4, 5, 5, 10-11) in order of

strength. That is, denying and promising

children

· Star

Lord Sun signifies (3, 4,-, 5) in order of strength.

I would interpret some ‘Negotiation’, denial and then promised. What does

Negotiation means here? House 3 is 11th house from 5th

house. I guess some help would be given to house 5 by the significations of 3rd

house by some ‘negotiation’. In this case, the word ‘negotiation’ may

mean some sort of help with pregnancy

· Sub Lord

Mon signifies (3,5,2-7,4) è Mon in Barren

sign but by signification may be possible

· Mon also

signifies FERTILITY

· Mon in Rasi Mon is at 26 deg 4 min and Sat is at 27 deg 48 min, both in

Rasi(5). Punarphoo Yoga. Which normally means success in ‘Subsequent

attempt’ and/or with some frustration and delay

· Let’s

see Mon. Mon in Star Ven/Sub Ketu

a. Ven in Rasi(4),

fruitful sign, S(10,3,9,2-7)

b. Ketu, abortive

planet, in R(4), fruitful sign, S(5,3,10-11, 4)

 

So the overall picture, in a nutshell is:

 

 

Mon

signifies Fertility problem and is in Barren sign, conjuct Sat

creating Punarphoo Yoga, imlying frustration and delay. By nature,

Mon might give some hopes, as it signifies Mind and is ahead of Sun, just

come out of Amavasya.

Mon is

trapped between Sun and Sat, is just hoping the things would get okay by

the role of 3rd house, which I said, ‘negotiation’, I would

say, may be Doctors would try to interfere and/or treat the Barren

sign. Sat must be causing some obstruction.

Sub

Lord Cusp(5), Sat DOES NOT promise children, by being in Barren

sign. But another concept, I think, as my personal thought, may be

by some artifical and/or medical help the person might conceive. If

conceived, can she hold the embryo?

Lets

see Navamsa chart. H(5) has Ketu in it, again the abortive planet.

Lets

see RPs, RP = Jup R, Ven, Ven, Sun, Sat (Mon with Sat and Ketu with

Ven, Rahu in Sat sign) è Jup R, 2 Ven, (Ketu), Sun, Sat (Mon), Rahu

If I

still continue, lets take significtors S(2,5,11)

S(2,5,11)

=2Ketu, 2Mon, 3MErc, 3Sat, Rahu,Sun

Common

with RP = 2Ketu, Mon, 3Sat, Rahu, Sun

Ignore

Merc, Jup, VEn who are in either in Star or Sub of retro Jup

Dasa =

VEn is going on at present till July 2010. Ven in Star JUp R Sub

Mon, Star Lord Jup is NOT helpful at all

Next

Dasa = Sun in Ketu/Mars. Ketu in Fruitful sign and signifies

(5,3,10-11). Star Lord Ketu and Sub Lord mars are in house(3) from

Lagna, which si H(11) from H(5), can be fruitful

Conclusion:

Though Chart denies children, but I think, to

be in the positive side, Pregnancy might be just possible with help of

Medical Treatment and utmost care as I see Fertility problem.

Provided some concrete Astrological remedies are done

I am

not giving here the time frame

 

 

 

After I told all the above, the lady

said, “Can you please look at my husbands chartâ€

 

 

Then I went

through her natal chart (23 Nov 1972, 17:18 hours, Wellington, New Zealand)

first and discovered the followings:

 

Consider

H(5)

 

 

 

Lord of

H(5) = Sun in House (8), area of Ovaries, etc

Suh is

between Masr,vEN and Rahu, Jup, MErc R

Sun is

opposite Sat R

Mon for

fertility, is trapped between Satr R, Ketu and Transit Ketu è that

gave me further confidence that I am on the right track

Mon is

oopiste Jup Rè giving some hoeps, but Jup R is with Rahu, that may cause

Illusion or give some ‘false picture’

 

 

 

 

 

Then I went

into husbands chart. (16 Apr 1972, 5:00 hours, Auckland, New Zealand)

 

I observed the following points:

a. H(5) is occupied by

Ketu and also transited by Ketu too. Very strong Abortive configuration.

b. H(5) is aspected by Sat

c. Lord H(5) is Mon, is

trapped between Sun and Sat, casuing separativeness, aspected by Jup, giving

some hopes by Dhanvantri

d. I thought of checking

VEn for the quality of Sperm. VEn is between Sat and Mars, indeed, the person

needs ‘Medical Help’. VEn is aspected by Rahu, the illusion, and aspected

by Tr Jup R too, and Tr Rahu too. Giving some hope, but might be False

hopes.

e. Dasa = Rahu, which

signifes (1,10,6) all negative houses for having children,

f. I think this

comfiguarion supports more for Adoption than

having own children

g. I felt, VEn wishes to

move ahead, but it finds Mars there and is puuled back by Sat

h. D9 chart, Mona dn Sun

both are getting Jups aspect, I would again say, some hoep, but with only

medical help

 

Lets ask the male for

KP number. HE said, ‘Any children, when?’ Kp 8. Ths chart was

constructed on 22 Aug 2009, 11:44 hours, Auckland, New Zealand

 

 

Genuineness of the question

 

 

 

SLC(1)

= Sat in House5 è ok

Mon

in house 5 è ok

 

 

 

Promised

 

 

 

SLC(11)

= Ven in Jup R/Mon

Ven

conj Ketu, abortive planet

Ven

in R(4) fruitful sign, S(10,3,9-12, 2-7) è possible

Jup

R till mid Oct 2009. But Jup S(2,10,1-8,9- 12) è

possible but some problems

Mon

in R(5) in Barren sign, S(4,5,5,4) è possible

but what about Barren sign?

 

 

 

SLC(5)

= Mon in barren Sign with Sat and Sun, and all in barren sign

Mon

in Sun/Sun

Sun

S(3,4,5) è in barren sign, with Sat, è indicated

frustration ‘SUBSEQUENT ATTEMPTS, delay and still very less chances.

RP =

Sat, Mars, 2 Sun, Sat, Mon

S(2,5,11)

= 2 Mars, Jup R, 2 Ketu, 2 Mon, 2 MErc, 3 Sat, Rahu, VEn

Dasa

= Sun S(3,4,5) è very difficucult

 

 

 

..

 

After I finishes all

then talking

 

The lady told me:

 

 

We

are going through second round of IVF

Next

week we would know whether its successful or not

Husband

has Lower Sperm Count

 

 

I have

recommended some Remedies. I did not wish to say NEGATIVE thing.

But diplomatically I have tried to tell them that they can tryfor some time

with Medical and Ayurvedic help, Then we will discuss in next session

 

 

 

I am tired of

typing Now.

 

Can anybody help mw

with ethis and tell me the end result

 

 

Ravinder Grover