Computer generated random numbers

September 4, 2009

Dear Tw ji,

Let me add more information regarding point no. 2 and that will clarify why computer generated numbers are not random. In a simple language, the method for calculating random number in computer takes a number as a input which is called seed. This number defines the output. So, if you will provide the same seed, you will also get the same random number. Now, can it be really called random, if the same method gives the same result every time? To overcome this, generally software developer pass a timer value or a number which changes very fast to this random number generation method. Generally this timer value is taken in milliseconds and as it changes very fast, it appears that it is generating a random number. The reason it appears random because the timer value that we pass changes very fast every time that method is executed. But still it is a mechanical process and the same input you will give, the same output the " computer random method " will produce.

That is the reason I say that computer generated numbers are never random. This is not just my opinion, but this is a well known fact and termed as pseudo-randomness by scientists, engineers, and statisticians. You can know more about this pseudo-randomness from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudorandomness) and by googling it.

I hope you will get my point now.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:27 AM, tw853 <tw853 wrote:

Dear Friends,1. What Guruji KSK wrote under " ABSENT PERSON ALIVE OR DEAD " is to rotate the chart to 9th for the unknown person as Sunaparantha quoted (from KP Reader VI pp 159-160)./message/27121

2. Using a random number generated by the computer SW seems in line with the way used by Guruji KSK as follows: " Whenever there was none to mention a number and the questained to me, I used to open a book of 400 pages and then see the number of the page printed on the right side of the book. " (KP Reader VI p 105)

3. Any edition of KP Reader VI is the exact reprint of the first edition of 1970.4. One can use what works the best for him or her, while simultaneously respecting the personal preferences of others.Regards,

tw

, " swami_rcs " <swami.rcs wrote:>> -> Dear Friends,> May departed soul of CM YSR and co passenger rest in peace!

> To my knowledge the matter was taken for analysis only on two ,, among these participation on this group was not only good but encouraging.> Most of astrological writing is justification of events that have happened, but here the live discussion is educative and we must follow the conclusion summarized by Dr Rath in case of predicting of people not known to us as taught by Guruji..

> 1. " Sorry for intervening.> You are correct, when an Astrologer erects a Horary Chart from his own urge and a pre-fixed mind to use the Horary Ascendant for the concerned person it is OK to use it. Punit Pandeji also has considered the Horary Ascendant only. If a second person asks it the Ascendant for the person in question has to be IX. KSK has almost always given examples where it is clear the the number is given by a consultant. However when an Astrologer selects the number himself with a pre-fixed mind that he would take the IX, I think he could do so.Dr Rath "

> 2. Time chart can be and is used ,especially when your urge is extremely high and problem is of serious concern .> With regards..> Swami.Astrologer.> > > > -- In , Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@> wrote:

> >> > Dear friends,> > > > In this issue some members have made their attention to the 9th, while some were with Horary Asc.> > According to my studies, I trust both are correct, if the Astrologer is in strong urge.

> > But Shri KSK, after elaborating some ideas according to western system,has mentioned in Reader 6 as " Take that house which represents the relationship. For father and for stranger take only the 9th house. Find out ..... " KP Reader 6 -11th Edition - 2007- page 159, 160.

> > > > And it is the free will of an Astrologer to take and follow any coorrct rule or methodwith his own experience, when thre are manymethods.> > > > So I kindly request all members not to make this a controversy.

> > > > With due respect> > > > Kalyan> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > Luther Rath <rathluther@>

> > > > Thursday, September 3, 2009 7:15:20 PM> > Re: WHERE IS AP CM?

> > > > > > Dear Adith,> > Sorry for intervening.> > You are correct, when an Astrologer erects a Horary Chart from his own urge and a pre-fixed mind to use the Horary Ascendant for the concerned person it is OK to use it. Punit Pandeji also has considered the Horary Ascendant only. If a second person asks it the Ascendant for the person in question has to be IX. KSK has almost always given examples where it is clear the the number is given by a consultant. How ever when an Astrologer selects the number himself with a pre-fixed mind that he would take the IX, I think he could do so.

> > Dr Rath> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>

> > Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >; @gro ups.com> > Thursday, September 3, 2009 11:49:45 AM

> > Re: WHERE IS AP CM?> > > > > > Dear Sunaji,> > > > I hope when an Astrologer is erecting a chart with his strong urge to study a case on his own interest, he need not rotate the chart to fix the Asc., the Asc., can be treated as is.

> > > > Further CM AP is not an unknown person to us. May not be known closley equal his relatives or politicians, but he is one of our Goverment's representative. hence he need not be treated for 9.

> > > > This is my humble opinion. > > > > With Regards> > Adith> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote:

> > > > Dear Friends,> > >My Horary Analysis too, shows sad news. It doesn't show any survival.> > >> > >> > >Date of Judgment - 02.09.2009> > >Time - 8.11.36 pm

> > >Place - Marapola, Sri Lanka > > >Horary No 159 (1-249)> > >> > >> > >As per the relationship with an unknown person 9th is the Lagna to be considered.> > >My SW shows 9th(Asc) as Cancer.

> > >Its Sub Lord is Me in 2(Maraka), in the Star of Mo, L/o Lagna in 7th(Maraka). > > >Lord of 11( Badhakasthana) and 4(End of life)is Ve, in Mo's house, in the Star of Sa L/o 7(Maraka) & 8(Accident), in 2(Maraka)

> > >No planets in the star of Me, the Sub of Lagna and is a strong /significator for 2 Maraka and signifies 7, 2, 1, 12, & 3 > > >Me is aspecting 6th(Disease) 9th(PoorvaPunya) and 10th(Retirement from the current soul)

> > >Running DBAS are Ma, Ma, Ra, Sa> > >Ma - 6,11,5,10> > >Ra - Sub of 2 ->1,6,2> > >Sa - Sub of 7 ->1,2,7,8> > >> > >> > >May my analysis be wrong and I pray for his survival

> > >> > >> > >Kalyan> > >> > >> > >> > ________________________________> > gkadithkasinath <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>

> > >@gro ups.com> > >Wednesday, September 2, 2009 7:03:29 PM> > > WHERE IS AP CM?> > >

> > >> > > > > >Dear Friends, > > >> > >Actually I came to know about the AP CM is missing from 930 am, only at around 530 pm. As I was out of my place for an occasion, I could not watch the TV and get the news.

> > >> > >Immediately I thought of erecting a chart to know where the AP CM is .> > >> > >Actually I was not sure about how to judge through the chart for this matter. I have not selected any numberr but the number was autogenereted.

> > >> > >My analysis is not complete and request our seniors help me in this.> > >> > >Where is AP CM?> > >No: 110 (computer generated)> > >06.06.20 PM

> > >2/9/2009> > >11n39> > >78e12> > >> > >I have taken Asc. as CM.> > >> > >The Asc. Falls in Virgo- Mer-Sun-Ketu- Ketu> > >

> > >Asc. Sub Ketu .> > >It is posited in 10.> > >It is in the star and sub of Saturn who is lord 6 is posited in 12.> > >Saturn is in the star of Sun posited in 12 as the lord of 12.

> > >6,12,12,12 are not good significators.> > >Moreover, both Sun and Saturn are in Leo which denotes> > > the Forests, desert, rocks also.> > >Does this indicate he lost in the forest unknown place?

> > >> > >I have seen some cases the strong indication of 12 by the 1st CSL also indicates danger to one's life.> > >> > >The Asc. Lord and 10th Lord (the higher executive of Govt.) is Mercury who is in Asc. itself in its own sign. What does it indicate?

> > >> > >The lord of 3,8 Mars aspects Mercury> > >The lord of 7 (the Badaka and Maraka lord) Jupiter who is in conjunction with Moon, aspects Mercury.> > >All these are not favorable.

> > >> > >But the Asc. sub lord does not signify Badaka,Maraka. But strongly signifies 12 and 10.> > >> > >The 8th Cuspal sublord is Rahu> > >Rahu is posited in 4. It is also signfyimng 5,11,7,2,9 (through Moon,Jupiter, Venus by conjn., Aspects) and also 6,12 through Saturn.

> > >And 3,8 through Mars by aspects.> > >Rahu is in the star of Sun in 12.> > >Rahu is in the sub of Saturn (in 12). Saturn is in the star of Sun again in 12.> > >These 4,6,12

> > > ,8,3strongly signified by the 8th sub shows the accidents on short Journey?> > >> > >Also the 2,7, signfications shows danger to his life? There is a strong signification of 12.

> > >Further 5,11 shows favorable ? > > >> > >When will he be traced?> > >Sun is in the star of Venus (the lord of 2) in 11.> > >Mercury is the strong signficator of 1.

> > >So during the conjoned period of these, will be be found?> > >> > >As I am just excited, I could not continue and asking our seniors advise.> > >> > >Can you please give your valuable advice on these?

> > >> > >With Regards> > >Adith> > >> > >> > >> >>