Computer generated random numbers

September 4, 2009

Dear Punit ji,

1. Thanks for very interesting technical explanation to check it practically.

2. To make a bold statement that computer generated numbers are never random,

how many SWs have you checked practically? how many times have you got the same

number within 10 times, and if the same number is repeated significantly then

within 20 times,....., up to 100 times.

3. It's also interesting that many KP astrologers are making correct predictions

by using computer generated numbers.

Thanks and regards,

tw

" Do not to believe anything he said just out of respect for him. Do not believe

in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply

because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply

because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything

merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in

traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after

observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is

conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to

it. "

-Lord Buddha

, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

>

> Dear Tw ji,

>

> Let me add more information regarding point no. 2 and that will clarify why

> computer generated numbers are not random. In a simple language, the method

> for calculating random number in computer takes a number as a input which is

> called seed. This number defines the output. So, if you will provide the

> same seed, you will also get the same random number. Now, can it be really

> called random, if the same method gives the same result every time? To

> overcome this, generally software developer pass a timer value or a number

> which changes very fast to this random number generation method.

> Generally this timer value is taken in milliseconds and as it changes very

> fast, it appears that it is generating a random number. The reason it

> appears random because the timer value that we pass changes very fast every

> time that method is executed. *But still it is a mechanical process and the

> same input you will give, the same output the " computer random method " will

> produce.*

>

> That is the reason I say that computer generated numbers are never random.

> This is not just my opinion, but this is a well known fact and termed as

> pseudo-randomness by scientists, engineers, and statisticians. You can know

> more about this pseudo-randomness from Wikipedia (

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudorandomness) and by googling it.

>

> I hope you will get my point now.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

>

> Punit Pandey

>

> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:27 AM, tw853 <tw853 wrote:

>

> >

> > Dear Friends,

> > 1. What Guruji KSK wrote under " ABSENT PERSON ALIVE OR DEAD " is to rotate

> > the chart to 9th for the unknown person as Sunaparantha quoted (from KP

> > Reader VI pp 159-160).

> > /message/27121

> > 2. Using a random number generated by the computer SW seems in line with

> > the way used by Guruji KSK as follows:

> > " Whenever there was none to mention a number and the questained to me, I

> > used to open a book of 400 pages and then see the number of the page printed

> > on the right side of the book. " (KP Reader VI p 105)

> > 3. Any edition of KP Reader VI is the exact reprint of the first edition of

> > 1970.

> > 4. One can use what works the best for him or her, while simultaneously

> > respecting the personal preferences of others.

> >

> > Regards,

> > tw

> >

> > <%40>,

> > " swami_rcs " <swami.rcs@> wrote:

> > >

> > > -

> > > Dear Friends,

> > > May departed soul of CM YSR and co passenger rest in peace!

> > > To my knowledge the matter was taken for analysis only on two

> > groups,, among these participation on this group was not only good but

> > encouraging.

> > > Most of astrological writing is justification of events that have

> > happened, but here the live discussion is educative and we must follow the

> > conclusion summarized by Dr Rath in case of predicting of people not known

> > to us as taught by Guruji..

> > > 1. " Sorry for intervening.

> > > You are correct, when an Astrologer erects a Horary Chart from his own

> > urge and a pre-fixed mind to use the Horary Ascendant for the concerned

> > person it is OK to use it. Punit Pandeji also has considered the Horary

> > Ascendant only. If a second person asks it the Ascendant for the person in

> > question has to be IX. KSK has almost always given examples where it is

> > clear the the number is given by a consultant. However when an Astrologer

> > selects the number himself with a pre-fixed mind that he would take the IX,

> > I think he could do so.Dr Rath "

> > > 2. Time chart can be and is used ,especially when your urge is extremely

> > high and problem is of serious concern .

> > > With regards..

> > > Swami.Astrologer.

> > >

> > > -- In <%40>,

> > Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear friends,

> > > >

> > > > In this issue some members have made their attention to the 9th, while

> > some were with Horary Asc.

> > > > According to my studies, I trust both are correct, if the Astrologer is

> > in strong urge.

> > > > But Shri KSK, after elaborating some ideas according to western

> > system,has mentioned in Reader 6 as " Take that house which represents the

> > relationship. For father and for stranger take only the 9th house. Find out

> > ..... " KP Reader 6 -11th Edition - 2007- page 159, 160.

> > > >

> > > > And it is the free will of an Astrologer to take and follow any coorrct

> > rule or methodwith his own experience, when thre are manymethods.

> > > >

> > > > So I kindly request all members not to make this a controversy.

> > > >

> > > > With due respect

> > > >

> > > > Kalyan

> > > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > > > Luther Rath <rathluther@>

> > > > <%40>

> > > > Thursday, September 3, 2009 7:15:20 PM

> > > > Re: WHERE IS AP CM?

> > > >

> > > > Dear Adith,

> > > > Sorry for intervening.

> > > > You are correct, when an Astrologer erects a Horary Chart from his own

> > urge and a pre-fixed mind to use the Horary Ascendant for the concerned

> > person it is OK to use it. Punit Pandeji also has considered the Horary

> > Ascendant only. If a second person asks it the Ascendant for the person in

> > question has to be IX. KSK has almost always given examples where it is

> > clear the the number is given by a consultant. How ever when an Astrologer

> > selects the number himself with a pre-fixed mind that he would take the IX,

> > I think he could do so.

> > > > Dr Rath

> > > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > > > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>

> > > > Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >; @gro

> > ups.com

> > > > Thursday, September 3, 2009 11:49:45 AM

> > > > Re: WHERE IS AP CM?

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sunaji,

> > > >

> > > > I hope when an Astrologer is erecting a chart with his strong urge to

> > study a case on his own interest, he need not rotate the chart to fix the

> > Asc., the Asc., can be treated as is.

> > > >

> > > > Further CM AP is not an unknown person to us. May not be known closley

> > equal his relatives or politicians, but he is one of our Goverment's

> > representative. hence he need not be treated for 9.

> > > >

> > > > This is my humble opinion.

> > > >

> > > > With Regards

> > > > Adith

> > > >

> > > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Friends,

> > > > >My Horary Analysis too, shows sad news. It doesn't show any survival.

> > > > >

> > > > >Date of Judgment - 02.09.2009

> > > > >Time - 8.11.36 pm

> > > > >Place - Marapola, Sri Lanka

> > > > >Horary No 159 (1-249)

> > > > >

> > > > >As per the relationship with an unknown person 9th is the Lagna to be

> > considered.

> > > > >My SW shows 9th(Asc) as Cancer.

> > > > >Its Sub Lord is Me in 2(Maraka), in the Star of Mo, L/o Lagna in

> > 7th(Maraka).

> > > > >Lord of 11( Badhakasthana) and 4(End of life)is Ve, in Mo's house, in

> > the Star of Sa L/o 7(Maraka) & 8(Accident), in 2(Maraka)

> > > > >No planets in the star of Me, the Sub of Lagna and is a strong

> > /significator for 2 Maraka and signifies 7, 2, 1, 12, & 3

> > > > >Me is aspecting 6th(Disease) 9th(PoorvaPunya) and 10th(Retirement from

> > the current soul)

> > > > >Running DBAS are Ma, Ma, Ra, Sa

> > > > >Ma - 6,11,5,10

> > > > >Ra - Sub of 2 ->1,6,2

> > > > >Sa - Sub of 7 ->1,2,7,8

> > > > >

> > > > >May my analysis be wrong and I pray for his survival

> > > > >

> > > > >Kalyan

> > > > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > > > gkadithkasinath <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>

> > > > >@gro ups.com

> > > > >Wednesday, September 2, 2009 7:03:29 PM

> > > > > WHERE IS AP CM?

> > > > >

> > > > >Dear Friends,

> > > > >

> > > > >Actually I came to know about the AP CM is missing from 930 am, only

> > at around 530 pm. As I was out of my place for an occasion, I could not

> > watch the TV and get the news.

> > > > >

> > > > >Immediately I thought of erecting a chart to know where the AP CM is .

> > > > >

> > > > >Actually I was not sure about how to judge through the chart for this

> > matter. I have not selected any numberr but the number was autogenereted.

> > > > >

> > > > >My analysis is not complete and request our seniors help me in this.

> > > > >

> > > > >Where is AP CM?

> > > > >No: 110 (computer generated)

> > > > >06.06.20 PM

> > > > >2/9/2009

> > > > >11n39

> > > > >78e12

> > > > >

> > > > >I have taken Asc. as CM.

> > > > >

> > > > >The Asc. Falls in Virgo- Mer-Sun-Ketu- Ketu

> > > > >

> > > > >Asc. Sub Ketu .

> > > > >It is posited in 10.

> > > > >It is in the star and sub of Saturn who is lord 6 is posited in 12.

> > > > >Saturn is in the star of Sun posited in 12 as the lord of 12.

> > > > >6,12,12,12 are not good significators.

> > > > >Moreover, both Sun and Saturn are in Leo which denotes

> > > > > the Forests, desert, rocks also.

> > > > >Does this indicate he lost in the forest unknown place?

> > > > >

> > > > >I have seen some cases the strong indication of 12 by the 1st CSL also

> > indicates danger to one's life.

> > > > >

> > > > >The Asc. Lord and 10th Lord (the higher executive of Govt.) is Mercury

> > who is in Asc. itself in its own sign. What does it indicate?

> > > > >

> > > > >The lord of 3,8 Mars aspects Mercury

> > > > >The lord of 7 (the Badaka and Maraka lord) Jupiter who is in

> > conjunction with Moon, aspects Mercury.

> > > > >All these are not favorable.

> > > > >

> > > > >But the Asc. sub lord does not signify Badaka,Maraka. But strongly

> > signifies 12 and 10.

> > > > >

> > > > >The 8th Cuspal sublord is Rahu

> > > > >Rahu is posited in 4. It is also signfyimng 5,11,7,2,9 (through

> > Moon,Jupiter, Venus by conjn., Aspects) and also 6,12 through Saturn.

> > > > >And 3,8 through Mars by aspects.

> > > > >Rahu is in the star of Sun in 12.

> > > > >Rahu is in the sub of Saturn (in 12). Saturn is in the star of Sun

> > again in 12.

> > > > >These 4,6,12

> > > > > ,8,3strongly signified by the 8th sub shows the accidents on short

> > Journey?

> > > > >

> > > > >Also the 2,7, signfications shows danger to his life? There is a

> > strong signification of 12.

> > > > >Further 5,11 shows favorable ?

> > > > >

> > > > >When will he be traced?

> > > > >Sun is in the star of Venus (the lord of 2) in 11.

> > > > >Mercury is the strong signficator of 1.

> > > > >So during the conjoned period of these, will be be found?

> > > > >

> > > > >As I am just excited, I could not continue and asking our seniors

> > advise.

> > > > >

> > > > >Can you please give your valuable advice on these?

> > > > >

> > > > >With Regards

> > > > >Adith

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

September 4, 2009

Dear Tw ji,

Thanks for your good words.

I am not making any bold statement but explaining how random number generators work in computer. I have just shared something which is well known to all software engineers. What I said is not dependant upon any software and the limitation is at much deeper level of hardware and language. Hence, it is applicable to all software. You can check with some other software people and they can tell you what I am saying is correct or not. What I said can easily be validated.

Rajiv ji asked my about the random number and I replied him saying that " I don't prefer computer generated number " (/message/27095). I also tried to explain the reason with best of my capability and knowledge in my previous email to you. Though it doesn't prohibit anyone to use computer generated random numbers. I always believe that whatever works practically should always prevail. If people get good results using computer generated random number they should use it. If people get good results with time chart, they should use that.

Having said that, I must request KP astrologers to experiment both ways and share their experience. For example, in the present study of YSR, Nagi ji's assessment (/message/27057) was most off the mark and he used computer generated random number. We have horary astrology to blame, we have astrologer to blame and we have computer generated number to blame. In my opinion, inested of rushing so quickly to conclude anything (e.g. no two horary astrologers can give same predictions), we should weight all the possible failing factors and then only conclude.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 5:56 PM, tw853 <tw853 wrote:

Dear Punit ji,1. Thanks for very interesting technical explanation to check it practically.2. To make a bold statement that computer generated numbers are never random, how many SWs have you checked practically? how many times have you got the same number within 10 times, and if the same number is repeated significantly then within 20 times,....., up to 100 times.

3. It's also interesting that many KP astrologers are making correct predictions by using computer generated numbers.Thanks and regards,tw " Do not to believe anything he said just out of respect for him. Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it. "

-Lord Buddha

, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:>> Dear Tw ji,> > Let me add more information regarding point no. 2 and that will clarify why

> computer generated numbers are not random. In a simple language, the method> for calculating random number in computer takes a number as a input which is> called seed. This number defines the output. So, if you will provide the

> same seed, you will also get the same random number. Now, can it be really> called random, if the same method gives the same result every time? To> overcome this, generally software developer pass a timer value or a number

> which changes very fast to this random number generation method.> Generally this timer value is taken in milliseconds and as it changes very> fast, it appears that it is generating a random number. The reason it

> appears random because the timer value that we pass changes very fast every> time that method is executed. *But still it is a mechanical process and the> same input you will give, the same output the " computer random method " will

> produce.*> > That is the reason I say that computer generated numbers are never random.> This is not just my opinion, but this is a well known fact and termed as> pseudo-randomness by scientists, engineers, and statisticians. You can know

> more about this pseudo-randomness from Wikipedia (> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudorandomness) and by googling it.> > I hope you will get my point now.

> > Thanks & Regards,> > Punit Pandey> >

> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:27 AM, tw853 <tw853 wrote:> > >> >> > Dear Friends,> > 1. What Guruji KSK wrote under " ABSENT PERSON ALIVE OR DEAD " is to rotate

> > the chart to 9th for the unknown person as Sunaparantha quoted (from KP> > Reader VI pp 159-160).> > /message/27121

> > 2. Using a random number generated by the computer SW seems in line with> > the way used by Guruji KSK as follows:> > " Whenever there was none to mention a number and the questained to me, I

> > used to open a book of 400 pages and then see the number of the page printed> > on the right side of the book. " (KP Reader VI p 105)> > 3. Any edition of KP Reader VI is the exact reprint of the first edition of

> > 1970.> > 4. One can use what works the best for him or her, while simultaneously> > respecting the personal preferences of others.> >> > Regards,> > tw> >

> > <%40>, > > " swami_rcs " <swami.rcs@> wrote:> > >> > > -> > > Dear Friends,> > > May departed soul of CM YSR and co passenger rest in peace!

> > > To my knowledge the matter was taken for analysis only on two > > groups,, among these participation on this group was not only good but> > encouraging.> > > Most of astrological writing is justification of events that have

> > happened, but here the live discussion is educative and we must follow the> > conclusion summarized by Dr Rath in case of predicting of people not known> > to us as taught by Guruji..> > > 1. " Sorry for intervening.

> > > You are correct, when an Astrologer erects a Horary Chart from his own> > urge and a pre-fixed mind to use the Horary Ascendant for the concerned> > person it is OK to use it. Punit Pandeji also has considered the Horary

> > Ascendant only. If a second person asks it the Ascendant for the person in> > question has to be IX. KSK has almost always given examples where it is> > clear the the number is given by a consultant. However when an Astrologer

> > selects the number himself with a pre-fixed mind that he would take the IX,> > I think he could do so.Dr Rath " > > > 2. Time chart can be and is used ,especially when your urge is extremely

> > high and problem is of serious concern .> > > With regards..> > > Swami.Astrologer.> > >> > >> > >> > > -- In <%40>, > > Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear friends,> > > >> > > > In this issue some members have made their attention to the 9th, while

> > some were with Horary Asc.> > > > According to my studies, I trust both are correct, if the Astrologer is> > in strong urge.> > > > But Shri KSK, after elaborating some ideas according to western

> > system,has mentioned in Reader 6 as " Take that house which represents the> > relationship. For father and for stranger take only the 9th house. Find out> > ..... " KP Reader 6 -11th Edition - 2007- page 159, 160.

> > > >> > > > And it is the free will of an Astrologer to take and follow any coorrct> > rule or methodwith his own experience, when thre are manymethods.> > > >> > > > So I kindly request all members not to make this a controversy.

> > > >> > > > With due respect> > > >> > > > Kalyan> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ________________________________

> > > > Luther Rath <rathluther@>> > > > <%40>

> > > > Thursday, September 3, 2009 7:15:20 PM> > > > Re: WHERE IS AP CM?> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Adith,

> > > > Sorry for intervening.> > > > You are correct, when an Astrologer erects a Horary Chart from his own> > urge and a pre-fixed mind to use the Horary Ascendant for the concerned

> > person it is OK to use it. Punit Pandeji also has considered the Horary> > Ascendant only. If a second person asks it the Ascendant for the person in> > question has to be IX. KSK has almost always given examples where it is

> > clear the the number is given by a consultant. How ever when an Astrologer> > selects the number himself with a pre-fixed mind that he would take the IX,> > I think he could do so.> > > > Dr Rath

> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ________________________________> > > > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>

> > > > Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ >; @gro> > ups.com> > > > Thursday, September 3, 2009 11:49:45 AM

> > > > Re: WHERE IS AP CM?> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Sunaji,> > > >> > > > I hope when an Astrologer is erecting a chart with his strong urge to

> > study a case on his own interest, he need not rotate the chart to fix the> > Asc., the Asc., can be treated as is.> > > >> > > > Further CM AP is not an unknown person to us. May not be known closley

> > equal his relatives or politicians, but he is one of our Goverment's> > representative. hence he need not be treated for 9.> > > >> > > > This is my humble opinion.

> > > >> > > > With Regards> > > > Adith> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@

> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Friends,> > > > >My Horary Analysis too, shows sad news. It doesn't show any survival.

> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >Date of Judgment - 02.09.2009> > > > >Time - 8.11.36 pm> > > > >Place - Marapola, Sri Lanka> > > > >Horary No 159 (1-249)

> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >As per the relationship with an unknown person 9th is the Lagna to be> > considered.> > > > >My SW shows 9th(Asc) as Cancer.

> > > > >Its Sub Lord is Me in 2(Maraka), in the Star of Mo, L/o Lagna in> > 7th(Maraka).> > > > >Lord of 11( Badhakasthana) and 4(End of life)is Ve, in Mo's house, in> > the Star of Sa L/o 7(Maraka) & 8(Accident), in 2(Maraka)

> > > > >No planets in the star of Me, the Sub of Lagna and is a strong> > /significator for 2 Maraka and signifies 7, 2, 1, 12, & 3> > > > >Me is aspecting 6th(Disease) 9th(PoorvaPunya) and 10th(Retirement from

> > the current soul)> > > > >Running DBAS are Ma, Ma, Ra, Sa> > > > >Ma - 6,11,5,10> > > > >Ra - Sub of 2 ->1,6,2> > > > >Sa - Sub of 7 ->1,2,7,8

> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >May my analysis be wrong and I pray for his survival> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >Kalyan

> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > ________________________________> > > > gkadithkasinath <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>

> > > > >@gro ups.com> > > > >Wednesday, September 2, 2009 7:03:29 PM> > > > > WHERE IS AP CM?

> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >Dear Friends,> > > > >> > > > >Actually I came to know about the AP CM is missing from 930 am, only

> > at around 530 pm. As I was out of my place for an occasion, I could not> > watch the TV and get the news.> > > > >> > > > >Immediately I thought of erecting a chart to know where the AP CM is .

> > > > >> > > > >Actually I was not sure about how to judge through the chart for this> > matter. I have not selected any numberr but the number was autogenereted.> > > > >

> > > > >My analysis is not complete and request our seniors help me in this.> > > > >> > > > >Where is AP CM?> > > > >No: 110 (computer generated)

> > > > >06.06.20 PM> > > > >2/9/2009> > > > >11n39> > > > >78e12> > > > >> > > > >I have taken Asc. as CM.

> > > > >> > > > >The Asc. Falls in Virgo- Mer-Sun-Ketu- Ketu> > > > >> > > > >Asc. Sub Ketu .> > > > >It is posited in 10.> > > > >It is in the star and sub of Saturn who is lord 6 is posited in 12.

> > > > >Saturn is in the star of Sun posited in 12 as the lord of 12.> > > > >6,12,12,12 are not good significators.> > > > >Moreover, both Sun and Saturn are in Leo which denotes

> > > > > the Forests, desert, rocks also.> > > > >Does this indicate he lost in the forest unknown place?> > > > >> > > > >I have seen some cases the strong indication of 12 by the 1st CSL also

> > indicates danger to one's life.> > > > >> > > > >The Asc. Lord and 10th Lord (the higher executive of Govt.) is Mercury> > who is in Asc. itself in its own sign. What does it indicate?

> > > > >> > > > >The lord of 3,8 Mars aspects Mercury> > > > >The lord of 7 (the Badaka and Maraka lord) Jupiter who is in> > conjunction with Moon, aspects Mercury.

> > > > >All these are not favorable.> > > > >> > > > >But the Asc. sub lord does not signify Badaka,Maraka. But strongly> > signifies 12 and 10.> > > > >

> > > > >The 8th Cuspal sublord is Rahu> > > > >Rahu is posited in 4. It is also signfyimng 5,11,7,2,9 (through> > Moon,Jupiter, Venus by conjn., Aspects) and also 6,12 through Saturn.

> > > > >And 3,8 through Mars by aspects.> > > > >Rahu is in the star of Sun in 12.> > > > >Rahu is in the sub of Saturn (in 12). Saturn is in the star of Sun> > again in 12.

> > > > >These 4,6,12> > > > > ,8,3strongly signified by the 8th sub shows the accidents on short> > Journey?> > > > >> > > > >Also the 2,7, signfications shows danger to his life? There is a

> > strong signification of 12.> > > > >Further 5,11 shows favorable ?> > > > >> > > > >When will he be traced?> > > > >Sun is in the star of Venus (the lord of 2) in 11.

> > > > >Mercury is the strong signficator of 1.> > > > >So during the conjoned period of these, will be be found?> > > > >> > > > >As I am just excited, I could not continue and asking our seniors

> > advise.> > > > >> > > > >Can you please give your valuable advice on these?> > > > >> > > > >With Regards> > > > >Adith

> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >>

September 4, 2009

Dear TWji and Punit ji,

Our Shri.KSK quoted that when an Astrologer heard a different number other than the actual number said by a client, that number is the right number destined to him for the analysis. Also when there is no number in a page , it is said the eventt is not going to be fruiful.

So what an Astrologer gets a number through the computer with random or without random, it is destined to give the result provided he has the real urge.The moment he clicks the button is driven by the mind which is controled by planets. Hence I hope it wont be a problem.

We can think in an another aspect.

Our KSK used to ask a number 1-118 earlier and later shifted to 249 for the sub level. If a client says a number for example 10, which has got different Asc. position for each method (118 or 249). Hence the number said is taken within the number range asked to the client by the astrologer. It means the divine force takes everything into the aspect and gives the number through the client as per the requisite of the Astrologer. In such case, why cant even if the computer generated numbers are (suppose) not random, the divine force will defintely lead the Astrologer.

I remember in the readers for a particular case study, Our Guruji asked two different numbers to a cleint (1-249) and (1-118) and studied both found the same result.

hence there is a great divine power which controls all, like even without the numbers how the time chart helps, a good astrologer with real urge will be capable of getting the guidance from the planets and can predict.

So as Punit ji said , whatever way an Astrologer finds the best way for him, can follow. This was said by our Guruji also.

This is my humble opinion.

Regards

Adith