Guest guest Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 Dear members How does one explain that Bush won presidency in Saturn dasha and Obama won presidency in Jupiter dasha using KP principles? If we see the charts of these two Presidents - we see that Sat in Bush's case is in 12th house (using the Placidus system -that I am supposed to use in KP). Mercury is also in 12th bhava..as First house Cusp starts at 25Cn48 (I am using Jhora). He won his second term during dasha chidra. Same deal with Obama's chart - Ju and Sat go to 12th house. Me and Su are in 6th bhava. Both the Presidency's were won during the dasha of a planet that was in 12th bhava? What is the clear explanation based on KP cuspal sub lord and planetary sub lord concepts? I know nakshatras usage but I am more interested in KP explanation using Cusps, and SUB lord... Thanks MS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Bush%2C_George_W. Asc Cn 14:04:59, Mars Dasa bal 6y:9m:29d, New KPA (2003) 23:01:13 (KPAstro 3.1) Political success in conjoined period of houses 1,6,9,10,11 (KP Reader III pp 392, 395/ Old Edition Practical Part pp 222, 224) 20-01-2001 (Sa-Ra-Ra-Ju) became 43rd US President Sa is in 12 l/o 7,8,9; in own star & sub Sa. Sa is conj. with Ve in 1 l/o 4,11. Sa is a significator of 9,11. Ra+ is in 11, no planet in Ra star and Ra is full significator of 11; Ra is aspected by Ju in 3 l/o 6; in star of Ma in 2 l/o 5,10; Ra's sign lord is Ve in 1 l/o 4,11; Ra is in sub of Ju in 3 l/o 6. Ra signifies 1,6,10,11. Ju in 3 l/o 6; in star of Ma in 2 l/o 5,10; in sub of Ra signifying 1,6,10,11 as discussed above. Ju signifies 1,6,10,11. Thus Sa-Ra-Ra DBAS signifies 1,6,9,10,11 to become the US President with difficulties by the Supreme Court decision of 5 to 4. Richard Houck declared George W. Bush President of the United States, commenting in advance of the election that Bush's victory was the strangest win pattern he had ever seen. http://www.astroamerica.com/v-houck.html 20-01-2005 (Sa-Ju-Ve-Ve) became 43rd US President Sa signifies 9,11 as discussed above. Ju signifies 1,6,10,11 as discussed above. Ve in 1 l/o 4,11; in star of Me in 1 l/o 12; in sub of Sa is in 12 l/o 7,8,9. V signifies 11 and it is the sub lord of cusps 6,8,10,11, which are deemed connected in KP. Thus Sa-Ju-Ve-Ve signifies 1,6,9,10,11 to be reelected as the US President. Next time -- Obama , " chitra2pada " <nakshatras wrote: > > Dear members > > How does one explain that Bush won presidency in Saturn dasha and Obama won presidency in Jupiter dasha using KP principles? If we see the charts of these two Presidents - we see that Sat in Bush's case is in 12th house (using the Placidus system -that I am supposed to use in KP). Mercury is also in 12th bhava..as First house Cusp starts at 25Cn48 (I am using Jhora). He won his second term during dasha chidra. > > Same deal with Obama's chart - Ju and Sat go to 12th house. Me and Su are in 6th bhava. > > Both the Presidency's were won during the dasha of a planet that was in 12th bhava? What is the clear explanation based on KP cuspal sub lord and planetary sub lord concepts? I know nakshatras usage but I am more interested in KP explanation using Cusps, and SUB lord... > > Thanks > MS > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Obama%2C_Barack Barack Obama, 04 Aug 1961, 19:24 PM,TZ 10h West, Oahu Island, Honolulu, Hawaii, US, 21N29, 157W58 (Google Earth), Asc Cp 24:37:44, Moon Dasa bal 9y:10m:26d, New KPA (2003) 23:13:50 (KPAstro 3.1) Political success in conjoined period of houses 1,6,9,10,11 (KP Reader III pp 392, 395/ Old Edition Practical Part pp 222, 224) 20 Jan 2009 (Ju-Mo-Ve-Me) became 44th US President Ju (12,2-11-12); is in star of Su(6); and in sub of Ke(1), aspected by & in star of Ma(7,3-10). Ju signifies 1,6,10,11. Mo(4,7); in star of own star & sub Mo(4,7). Mo is aspected by Ju signifying 11. Mo signifies 11. Ve(5,4-9); in star & sub of Ra(7), conj. with Ma(7,3-10), in star of Ke (1-10), sign lord Su(6). Ve signifies 10,1,6. Me(6,5-6-8); in star of Sa(12,1); in sub of Ve+(5,4-9). Me signifies 6,1,9. Thus Ju-Mo-Ve-Me DBAS signifies 1,6,9,10,11. , " chitra2pada " <nakshatras wrote: > > Dear members > > How does one explain that Bush won presidency in Saturn dasha and Obama won presidency in Jupiter dasha using KP principles? If we see the charts of these two Presidents - we see that Sat in Bush's case is in 12th house (using the Placidus system -that I am supposed to use in KP). Mercury is also in 12th bhava..as First house Cusp starts at 25Cn48 (I am using Jhora). He won his second term during dasha chidra. > > Same deal with Obama's chart - Ju and Sat go to 12th house. Me and Su are in 6th bhava. > > Both the Presidency's were won during the dasha of a planet that was in 12th bhava? What is the clear explanation based on KP cuspal sub lord and planetary sub lord concepts? I know nakshatras usage but I am more interested in KP explanation using Cusps, and SUB lord... > > Thanks > MS > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 Thanks a lot TW for your input and analysis. I know both Bush and Obama's charts are rated AA and hence wanted to see the logical explanation using KP alone without tinkering with time of birth. MS On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 11:47 AM, tw853 <tw853 wrote: http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Obama%2C_BarackBarack Obama, 04 Aug 1961, 19:24 PM,TZ 10h West, Oahu Island, Honolulu, Hawaii, US, 21N29, 157W58 (Google Earth), Asc Cp 24:37:44, Moon Dasa bal 9y:10m:26d, New KPA (2003) 23:13:50 (KPAstro 3.1) Political success in conjoined period of houses 1,6,9,10,11 (KP Reader III pp 392, 395/ Old Edition Practical Part pp 222, 224)20 Jan 2009 (Ju-Mo-Ve-Me) became 44th US President Ju (12,2-11-12); is in star of Su(6); and in sub of Ke(1), aspected by & in star of Ma(7,3-10). Ju signifies 1,6,10,11.Mo(4,7); in star of own star & sub Mo(4,7). Mo is aspected by Ju signifying 11. Mo signifies 11. Ve(5,4-9); in star & sub of Ra(7), conj. with Ma(7,3-10), in star of Ke (1-10), sign lord Su(6). Ve signifies 10,1,6.Me(6,5-6-8); in star of Sa(12,1); in sub of Ve+(5,4-9). Me signifies 6,1,9.Thus Ju-Mo-Ve-Me DBAS signifies 1,6,9,10,11. , " chitra2pada " <nakshatras wrote:> > Dear members> > How does one explain that Bush won presidency in Saturn dasha and Obama won presidency in Jupiter dasha using KP principles? If we see the charts of these two Presidents - we see that Sat in Bush's case is in 12th house (using the Placidus system -that I am supposed to use in KP). Mercury is also in 12th bhava..as First house Cusp starts at 25Cn48 (I am using Jhora). He won his second term during dasha chidra. > > Same deal with Obama's chart - Ju and Sat go to 12th house. Me and Su are in 6th bhava.> > Both the Presidency's were won during the dasha of a planet that was in 12th bhava? What is the clear explanation based on KP cuspal sub lord and planetary sub lord concepts? I know nakshatras usage but I am more interested in KP explanation using Cusps, and SUB lord... > > Thanks> MS> -- Sincerely,Manjunath Sharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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