important point

[Guest guest]

Respected Members of this group,

I request you one and all to observe an important point mentioned below:-

Dr. YSR died in an accident recently as CM of AP. His death resulted in loss of

Office permanently. So this should be tallied as follows to the best of my knowledge

 

10th indicates Job/profession.

4th house will be maraka 7th for 10th.

So, the marakastanas/houses should be involved in this type of cases also.

I request all the members those who are having the natal chart of Dr.YSR.to

verify & check this and also observe the transit also on that date and time of

accident occurred.

I once again request all of you express your ideas on this matter so that it will be

most beneficial to all.

With best regards,

Yours faithfully,

VSN. Murthy.

Try the new India Homepage.

[Guest guest]

Dear MurtyAs usual YSR's date of birth/Time is not one, Makar lagna, Kumbha lagna and Kanya lagna chart i hagot it from magazines.I have not yet taken the work, i will take up it very soon.Truely such astrological analysis will be important for learning/understanding vedic/KP astrology.RegardsSahhasra Saagarasatyanarayana murthy <vsnm_vdlK_p_Systems

Monday, 14 September, 2009 5:46:31 PM important point

 

 

Respected Members of this group, I request you one and all to observe an important point mentioned below:- Dr. YSR died in an accident recently as CM of AP. His death resulted in loss of Office permanently. So this should be tallied as follows to the best of my knowledge 10th indicates Job/profession. 4th house will be maraka 7th for 10th. So, the marakastanas/ houses should be involved in this type of cases also. I request all the members those who are having the natal chart of Dr.YSR.to verify & check this and also observe the transit also on that date and time of accident occurred. I once again request all of you express your ideas on this matter so that it will be most beneficial to all. With best regards, Yours faithfully, VSN. Murthy.

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Dear Murthy ji and Friends,

 

1. 4th signification has been found involved in fatal accidental death as can be

found in the five cases attached and two death cases Astrovision Sept 2009

(DEATHS OF TWO HUSBANDS).

/message/22979

/message/23122

/message/23129

 

2. Such kind of unnatural/accidental death would happen ...

in the joint period of the significators of Maraka (2,7), Bdhaka, Moksha (12)

and 4 (end of everything, trigon 4,8,12), 6 (injury), 8 (accident) in the case

of unnatural death , and also 10 (retirement from this world) especially in the

cases of celebrities.

-Astrovision Sept 2009 (DEATHS OF TWO HUSBANDS)

 

Regards,

tw

 

 

Chart 1, Y.S. Rajasekhara Reddy, 08 Jul 1949, 19:50 PM, Pulivendla, 14n25,

78e14, Asc Cp 08:49:28, NKPA 23:03:44, Ketu Dasa bal 6y:2m;30d, 02 Sept 2009

(Ra-Ke-Ma-Me) death in helicopter crash (KPAstro 3.1)

Dasa lord Ra+(3), no planet in star of Ra which is sub lord of 2,6,10, its sign

lord is Ju(12,3-12); Ra is in star of Me(5,6-9); and in sub of Sa(7,1-2).

Bhukti lord Ke(9), aspected by Ju(12,3-12), its sign lord is Me(5,6-9); in star

of Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of Sa(7,1-2).

Anthara lord Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in own star Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of

Ju(12,3-12).

Sookshma lord Me(5,6-9); in star Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of Ve+(7,5-10), no

planet in star of Ve which is sub lord of 1,7.

 

Chart 2, Sanjay Gandhi, 14 Dec 1946, 09:27 AM, Delhi, 28n38, 77e17, Asc Cp

01:34:35, NKPA 23:01:35, Ketu Dasa bal 0y:4m:21d, 23 Jun 1980 (Mo-Me-Sa-Ve)

death in plane crash

Mo(8,7)is in star of Ke(11 Badhaka), conj Su(11 Badhaka) & Me(10,6-9), its sign

lord Ma+(11,4-11); and in sub of Me(10,6-9).

Me(10,6-9) is in star of Sa(7,1-2); in sub of Ve+(10,5-10).

Sa(7,1-2) is in own star Sa(7,1-2); in sub of Ju(10,3-12)

Ve+(10,5-10) is in star of Ju(10,3-12); in sub of Me(10,6-9).

 

Chart 3, John F Kennedy Jr, 25 Nov 1960, 12:22 AM, TZ 5hWest, Washington, DC,

38n53, 77w02, Asc Le 18:44:36, NKPA 23:13:16, Mars

http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Kennedy%2C_John_F._Jr.

Dasa bal 1y:3m:16d, 16 Jul 1999 (Sa-Me-Me-Sa) death in private plane crash

Sa(5,6-7); in star of Ve(4,3,10); in own sub Sa(5,6-7).

Me+(3,2-11), no planet in star of Me which is sub lord of 3,9 Badhaka; in star &

sub of Ju(4,5-8).

 

Chart 4, Rolim Amaro, 15 Sept 1942, 16:00 PM, TZ 3hWest, Pereria Barreto,

Brazil, 20s38, 51w07, Asc Cp 28:12;01, NKPA 22:58:01, Saturn Dasa bal

17y:10m:15d, 8 July 2001 (Ve-Me-Ve-Sa) death in helicopter crash

http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Amaro%2C_Rolim

Ve(7,5-10) is in own star & sub Ve(7,5-10).

Me+(9,6-9), no planet in star of Me which is sub lord of 2,8; in star of

Ma(8,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of Ra(7), conj Su(8,8) & Ve(7,5-10).

Sa(4,1-2); in star of Mo(10,7); in sub of Me+(9,6-9), no planet in star of Me

which is sub lord of 2,8.

 

Chart 5, Jacques Thibaud, 27 Sept 1880, 18:00 PM LMT, 2m16secWest, Bordeaux,

France, 44n50, 00w34, Asc Pi 21:01:41, NKPA 22:06:08, Jupiter Dasa bal

7y:9m:10d, 1 Sept 1953 (Su-Ju-Ju-Ra) death in air crash

http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Thibaud%2C_Jacques

Su+(6,6) is in star of Mo(4,5); and in sub of Ra(9), aspected by Mo(4,5) & Ma(7

Badhaka,8-9), its sign lord is Ju(1,1-10).

Ju(1,1-10) is in star of Me(6,4-7 Badhaka); and in sub of Ma(7 Badhaka,8-9).

Ra(9), aspected by Mo(4,5) & Ma(7 Badhaka,8-9), its sign lord is Ju(1,1-10); Ra

is in star of Ke(3), conj by Mo(4,5) & Ma(7 Badhaka,8-9); and in sub of

Sa+(1,11-12).

 

 

 

 

, satyanarayana murthy <vsnm_vdl wrote:

>

> Respected Members of this group,

> I request you one and all to observe an important point mentioned below:-

> Dr. YSR died in an accident recently as CM of AP. His death resulted in loss

of

> Office permanently. So this should be tallied as follows to the best of my

knowledge

>  

> 10th indicates Job/profession.

> 4th house will be maraka 7th for 10th.

> So, the marakastanas/houses should be involved in this type of cases also.

> I request all the members those who are having the natal chart of Dr.YSR.to

> verify & check this and also observe the transit also on that date and time of

> accident occurred.

> I once again request all of you express your ideas on this matter so that it

will be

> most beneficial to all.

> With best regards,

> Yours faithfully,

> VSN. Murthy.

>

>

> From cricket scores to your friends. Try the India Homepage!

http://in./trynew

>

[Guest guest]

Then we have to consider 2, 7, 12, 4, 8 and 10 and 11 for such events.

Dr. Rath

 

 

 

tw853 <tw853 Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:06:48 AM Re: important point

Dear Murthy ji and Friends,1. 4th signification has been found involved in fatal accidental death as can be found in the five cases attached and two death cases Astrovision Sept 2009 (DEATHS OF TWO HUSBANDS).http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 22979http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 23122http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 231292. Such kind of unnatural/accidenta l death would happen ...in the joint period of the significators of Maraka (2,7), Bdhaka, Moksha (12) and 4 (end of everything, trigon 4,8,12), 6 (injury), 8 (accident) in the case of unnatural death , and also 10 (retirement

from this world) especially in the cases of celebrities.-Astrovision Sept 2009 (DEATHS OF TWO HUSBANDS)Regards,twChart 1, Y.S. Rajasekhara Reddy, 08 Jul 1949, 19:50 PM, Pulivendla, 14n25, 78e14, Asc Cp 08:49:28, NKPA 23:03:44, Ketu Dasa bal 6y:2m;30d, 02 Sept 2009 (Ra-Ke-Ma-Me) death in helicopter crash (KPAstro 3.1) Dasa lord Ra+(3), no planet in star of Ra which is sub lord of 2,6,10, its sign lord is Ju(12,3-12); Ra is in star of Me(5,6-9); and in sub of Sa(7,1-2).Bhukti lord Ke(9), aspected by Ju(12,3-12), its sign lord is Me(5,6-9); in star of Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of Sa(7,1-2).Anthara lord Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in own star Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of Ju(12,3-12).Sookshma lord Me(5,6-9); in star Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of Ve+(7,5-10), no planet in star of Ve which is sub lord of 1,7.Chart 2, Sanjay Gandhi, 14 Dec 1946, 09:27 AM, Delhi, 28n38, 77e17, Asc Cp 01:34:35, NKPA 23:01:35, Ketu Dasa

bal 0y:4m:21d, 23 Jun 1980 (Mo-Me-Sa-Ve) death in plane crash Mo(8,7)is in star of Ke(11 Badhaka), conj Su(11 Badhaka) & Me(10,6-9), its sign lord Ma+(11,4-11) ; and in sub of Me(10,6-9).Me(10,6-9) is in star of Sa(7,1-2); in sub of Ve+(10,5-10) .Sa(7,1-2) is in own star Sa(7,1-2); in sub of Ju(10,3-12)Ve+(10,5-10) is in star of Ju(10,3-12); in sub of Me(10,6-9).Chart 3, John F Kennedy Jr, 25 Nov 1960, 12:22 AM, TZ 5hWest, Washington, DC, 38n53, 77w02, Asc Le 18:44:36, NKPA 23:13:16, Mars http://www.astro. com/astro- databank/ Kennedy%2C_ John_F._Jr.Dasa bal 1y:3m:16d, 16 Jul 1999 (Sa-Me-Me-Sa) death in private plane crashSa(5,6-7); in star of Ve(4,3,10); in own sub Sa(5,6-7).Me+(3,2-11), no planet in star of Me which is sub lord of 3,9 Badhaka; in star & sub of Ju(4,5-8).Chart 4, Rolim Amaro, 15

Sept 1942, 16:00 PM, TZ 3hWest, Pereria Barreto, Brazil, 20s38, 51w07, Asc Cp 28:12;01, NKPA 22:58:01, Saturn Dasa bal 17y:10m:15d, 8 July 2001 (Ve-Me-Ve-Sa) death in helicopter crashhttp://www.astro. com/astro- databank/ Amaro%2C_ RolimVe(7,5-10) is in own star & sub Ve(7,5-10).Me+(9,6-9), no planet in star of Me which is sub lord of 2,8; in star of Ma(8,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of Ra(7), conj Su(8,8) & Ve(7,5-10).Sa(4,1-2); in star of Mo(10,7); in sub of Me+(9,6-9), no planet in star of Me which is sub lord of 2,8.Chart 5, Jacques Thibaud, 27 Sept 1880, 18:00 PM LMT, 2m16secWest, Bordeaux, France, 44n50, 00w34, Asc Pi 21:01:41, NKPA 22:06:08, Jupiter Dasa bal 7y:9m:10d, 1 Sept 1953 (Su-Ju-Ju-Ra) death in air crashhttp://www.astro.

com/astro- databank/ Thibaud%2C_ JacquesSu+(6,6) is in star of Mo(4,5); and in sub of Ra(9), aspected by Mo(4,5) & Ma(7 Badhaka,8-9) , its sign lord is Ju(1,1-10).Ju(1,1-10) is in star of Me(6,4-7 Badhaka); and in sub of Ma(7 Badhaka,8-9) .Ra(9), aspected by Mo(4,5) & Ma(7 Badhaka,8-9) , its sign lord is Ju(1,1-10); Ra is in star of Ke(3), conj by Mo(4,5) & Ma(7 Badhaka,8-9) ; and in sub of Sa+(1,11-12) .@gro ups.com, satyanarayana murthy <vsnm_vdl@.. .> wrote:>> Respected Members of this group,> I request you one and all to observe an important point mentioned below:-> Dr. YSR died in an accident recently as CM of AP. His death resulted in loss of > Office permanently. So this should be tallied as follows to the best of my

knowledge> > 10th indicates Job/profession. > 4th house will be maraka 7th for 10th.> So, the marakastanas/ houses should be involved in this type of cases also. > I request all the members those who are having the natal chart of Dr.YSR.to> verify & check this and also observe the transit also on that date and time of> accident occurred.> I once again request all of you express your ideas on this matter so that it will be > most beneficial to all. > With best regards,> Yours faithfully, > VSN. Murthy.> > > From cricket scores to your friends. Try the India Homepage! http://in.. com/trynew>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sri VSN ji

 

As indicated by u I have verified the chart of Dr. YS Rajasekhar Reddy ( chart

was dicussed in the KPAF on Sunday 13th Sept.2009).

Prest DBA is Ve-Ve-Ma,

Scorpio Asc. Venus as l/o 7n12 in 9th cusp in Kethu star who is in Ascendant in

Mercury star (Scorpio) Mercury is l/o. 8n11 in 8th cusp. As Kethu is agent of

Mercury/ in Mars house who is l/o 1n6 in 9th cusp.

Then Mars who is l/o 1n6 in 9th cusp.

All DBA planets are connected to 9th cusp bhadhaka. However when searched for

the link of 4th cusp then I could see 4th cuspal sublord is Venus who is in 9th

bhava indicates loss of 10th house.

Hence Sri VSN ji is very clear in his mind in identifying the point very

clearly.

 

Regards

OVN Murthy

 

 

 

, " tw853 " <tw853 wrote:

>

> Dear Murthy ji and Friends,

>

> 1. 4th signification has been found involved in fatal accidental death as can

be found in the five cases attached and two death cases Astrovision Sept 2009

(DEATHS OF TWO HUSBANDS).

> /message/22979

> /message/23122

> /message/23129

>

> 2. Such kind of unnatural/accidental death would happen ...

> in the joint period of the significators of Maraka (2,7), Bdhaka, Moksha (12)

and 4 (end of everything, trigon 4,8,12), 6 (injury), 8 (accident) in the case

of unnatural death , and also 10 (retirement from this world) especially in the

cases of celebrities.

> -Astrovision Sept 2009 (DEATHS OF TWO HUSBANDS)

>

> Regards,

> tw

>

>

> Chart 1, Y.S. Rajasekhara Reddy, 08 Jul 1949, 19:50 PM, Pulivendla, 14n25,

78e14, Asc Cp 08:49:28, NKPA 23:03:44, Ketu Dasa bal 6y:2m;30d, 02 Sept 2009

(Ra-Ke-Ma-Me) death in helicopter crash (KPAstro 3.1)

> Dasa lord Ra+(3), no planet in star of Ra which is sub lord of 2,6,10, its

sign lord is Ju(12,3-12); Ra is in star of Me(5,6-9); and in sub of Sa(7,1-2).

> Bhukti lord Ke(9), aspected by Ju(12,3-12), its sign lord is Me(5,6-9); in

star of Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of Sa(7,1-2).

> Anthara lord Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in own star Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of

Ju(12,3-12).

> Sookshma lord Me(5,6-9); in star Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of Ve+(7,5-10), no

planet in star of Ve which is sub lord of 1,7.

>

> Chart 2, Sanjay Gandhi, 14 Dec 1946, 09:27 AM, Delhi, 28n38, 77e17, Asc Cp

01:34:35, NKPA 23:01:35, Ketu Dasa bal 0y:4m:21d, 23 Jun 1980 (Mo-Me-Sa-Ve)

death in plane crash

> Mo(8,7)is in star of Ke(11 Badhaka), conj Su(11 Badhaka) & Me(10,6-9), its

sign lord Ma+(11,4-11); and in sub of Me(10,6-9).

> Me(10,6-9) is in star of Sa(7,1-2); in sub of Ve+(10,5-10).

> Sa(7,1-2) is in own star Sa(7,1-2); in sub of Ju(10,3-12)

> Ve+(10,5-10) is in star of Ju(10,3-12); in sub of Me(10,6-9).

>

> Chart 3, John F Kennedy Jr, 25 Nov 1960, 12:22 AM, TZ 5hWest, Washington, DC,

38n53, 77w02, Asc Le 18:44:36, NKPA 23:13:16, Mars

> http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Kennedy%2C_John_F._Jr.

> Dasa bal 1y:3m:16d, 16 Jul 1999 (Sa-Me-Me-Sa) death in private plane crash

> Sa(5,6-7); in star of Ve(4,3,10); in own sub Sa(5,6-7).

> Me+(3,2-11), no planet in star of Me which is sub lord of 3,9 Badhaka; in star

& sub of Ju(4,5-8).

>

> Chart 4, Rolim Amaro, 15 Sept 1942, 16:00 PM, TZ 3hWest, Pereria Barreto,

Brazil, 20s38, 51w07, Asc Cp 28:12;01, NKPA 22:58:01, Saturn Dasa bal

17y:10m:15d, 8 July 2001 (Ve-Me-Ve-Sa) death in helicopter crash

> http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Amaro%2C_Rolim

> Ve(7,5-10) is in own star & sub Ve(7,5-10).

> Me+(9,6-9), no planet in star of Me which is sub lord of 2,8; in star of

Ma(8,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of Ra(7), conj Su(8,8) & Ve(7,5-10).

> Sa(4,1-2); in star of Mo(10,7); in sub of Me+(9,6-9), no planet in star of Me

which is sub lord of 2,8.

>

> Chart 5, Jacques Thibaud, 27 Sept 1880, 18:00 PM LMT, 2m16secWest, Bordeaux,

France, 44n50, 00w34, Asc Pi 21:01:41, NKPA 22:06:08, Jupiter Dasa bal

7y:9m:10d, 1 Sept 1953 (Su-Ju-Ju-Ra) death in air crash

> http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Thibaud%2C_Jacques

> Su+(6,6) is in star of Mo(4,5); and in sub of Ra(9), aspected by Mo(4,5) &

Ma(7 Badhaka,8-9), its sign lord is Ju(1,1-10).

> Ju(1,1-10) is in star of Me(6,4-7 Badhaka); and in sub of Ma(7 Badhaka,8-9).

> Ra(9), aspected by Mo(4,5) & Ma(7 Badhaka,8-9), its sign lord is Ju(1,1-10);

Ra is in star of Ke(3), conj by Mo(4,5) & Ma(7 Badhaka,8-9); and in sub of

Sa+(1,11-12).

>

>

>

>

> , satyanarayana murthy <vsnm_vdl@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Members of this group,

> > I request you one and all to observe an important point mentioned below:-

> > Dr. YSR died in an accident recently as CM of AP. His death resulted in loss

of

> > Office permanently. So this should be tallied as follows to the best of my

knowledge

> >  

> > 10th indicates Job/profession.

> > 4th house will be maraka 7th for 10th.

> > So, the marakastanas/houses should be involved in this type of cases also.

> > I request all the members those who are having the natal chart of Dr.YSR.to

> > verify & check this and also observe the transit also on that date and time

of

> > accident occurred.

> > I once again request all of you express your ideas on this matter so that it

will be

> > most beneficial to all.

> > With best regards,

> > Yours faithfully,

> > VSN. Murthy.

> >

> >

> > From cricket scores to your friends. Try the India Homepage!

http://in./trynew

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Possible Steps in Accident Analysis

1. Signification of main house 8,12 along with Ma, Sa by 8CSL and DBAS (Karaka

plays only the supporting role.)

2. Signification of supporting houses 4,6,10 by DBAS

3. Signification of death inflicting Badhaka, Maraka & Moksha*

4. If life is in danger,

a) check saving significators of 1,5,11 (but pl note 11 is Badhaka for chara

lagnas.)

b) check the longevity by Asc CSL

5. decide the final prediction after making overall analysis.

 

 

*KP Death Inflicting Houses

1. " Death is indicated only by the significators of marakasthana and

badhakasthana. " (KP READER VI ,1978/2002 p 155; also repeated in K.

Hariharan: LONGEVITY,1986 p 36/50)

 

2. Death comes during the conjoined period of significtors of

Badhaka, Maraka, Moksha (and 10th=retirement from the world or life

in some cases) in KP literature and practical examples below.

 

1) KP READER III OE Part 2, p 9-11 (NE p 161-3)

2) KP READER VI ,1978/2002 p 155-7/160

3) ASTROSECRECTS & KP Part II, 2003, p 269-70 under " The Horoscope

of Prof. KS Krishnamurti "

4) ASTROSECRECTS & KP Part III, 2002, p 148-9 under " KP Explains

Death "

5) Chandrakant R. Bhatt: NAKSHATRA CHINTAMANI , p 12/ 22/ 64

6) Chandrakant R. Bhatt: FURTHER LIGHTS ON NAKSHATRA CHINTAMANI , p

11/ 214

7) K. Subramanium: MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL, 2005, P 130 last para

8) K. Hariharan: LONGEVITY,1986 (20 Example Death charts including

John F Kennedy)

9) Y S N Murty: KP & ASTRLOGY, Year Book 1995 p 12 ( A case of

Cancer)

10) Bal Krishna Singh: KP & ASTRLOGY, Year Book 1995 p 58 (Death of

Tantrik- K.P. Explains)

11) T V Ramaswamy: KP & ASTRLOGY, Year Book 1996 p 154-5 (Unnatural

Death Due to Accident – an Analysis)

12) K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi: KP & ASTRLOGY, Year Book 2001 p 49-50

(Twin Births Proves That K.P. System is The Only System Useful in

Predictive Astrology)

13) Dr. K R Kar: KP & ASTRLOGY, Year Book 2001 p 34-5 (Life Ends as

Expected)

14) Dr. Bal Krishna Singh: KP & ASTRLOGY, Year Book 2004 p 19

(Father Praying for Death of Son)

15) Prof. Vaikari Ramamurthy: KP & ASTRLOGY, Year Book 2005 p 5

(Longevity- How to Judge?)

16) Subhash Nair: KP & ASTRLOGY, Year Book 2006 p 76 and 80

(Longevity-Study of KP Horary Chart)

17) Kanak: LONGEVUTY RELATED in file section of this group (under

DEATH)

 

, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote:

>

> Then we have to consider 2, 7, 12, 4, 8 and 10 and 11 for such events.

> Dr. Rath

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> tw853 <tw853

>

> Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:06:48 AM

> Re: important point

>

>  

> Dear Murthy ji and Friends,

>

> 1. 4th signification has been found involved in fatal accidental death as can

be found in the five cases attached and two death cases Astrovision Sept 2009

(DEATHS OF TWO HUSBANDS).

> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 22979

> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 23122

> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 23129

>

> 2. Such kind of unnatural/accidenta l death would happen ...

> in the joint period of the significators of Maraka (2,7), Bdhaka, Moksha (12)

and 4 (end of everything, trigon 4,8,12), 6 (injury), 8 (accident) in the case

of unnatural death , and also 10 (retirement from this world) especially in the

cases of celebrities.

> -Astrovision Sept 2009 (DEATHS OF TWO HUSBANDS)

>

> Regards,

> tw

>

> Chart 1, Y.S. Rajasekhara Reddy, 08 Jul 1949, 19:50 PM, Pulivendla, 14n25,

78e14, Asc Cp 08:49:28, NKPA 23:03:44, Ketu Dasa bal 6y:2m;30d, 02 Sept 2009

(Ra-Ke-Ma-Me) death in helicopter crash (KPAstro 3.1)

> Dasa lord Ra+(3), no planet in star of Ra which is sub lord of 2,6,10, its

sign lord is Ju(12,3-12); Ra is in star of Me(5,6-9); and in sub of Sa(7,1-2).

> Bhukti lord Ke(9), aspected by Ju(12,3-12), its sign lord is Me(5,6-9); in

star of Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of Sa(7,1-2).

> Anthara lord Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in own star Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of

Ju(12,3-12).

> Sookshma lord Me(5,6-9); in star Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of Ve+(7,5-10), no

planet in star of Ve which is sub lord of 1,7.

>

> Chart 2, Sanjay Gandhi, 14 Dec 1946, 09:27 AM, Delhi, 28n38, 77e17, Asc Cp

01:34:35, NKPA 23:01:35, Ketu Dasa bal 0y:4m:21d, 23 Jun 1980 (Mo-Me-Sa-Ve)

death in plane crash

> Mo(8,7)is in star of Ke(11 Badhaka), conj Su(11 Badhaka) & Me(10,6-9), its

sign lord Ma+(11,4-11) ; and in sub of Me(10,6-9).

> Me(10,6-9) is in star of Sa(7,1-2); in sub of Ve+(10,5-10) .

> Sa(7,1-2) is in own star Sa(7,1-2); in sub of Ju(10,3-12)

> Ve+(10,5-10) is in star of Ju(10,3-12); in sub of Me(10,6-9).

>

> Chart 3, John F Kennedy Jr, 25 Nov 1960, 12:22 AM, TZ 5hWest, Washington, DC,

38n53, 77w02, Asc Le 18:44:36, NKPA 23:13:16, Mars

> http://www.astro. com/astro- databank/ Kennedy%2C_ John_F._Jr.

> Dasa bal 1y:3m:16d, 16 Jul 1999 (Sa-Me-Me-Sa) death in private plane crash

> Sa(5,6-7); in star of Ve(4,3,10); in own sub Sa(5,6-7).

> Me+(3,2-11), no planet in star of Me which is sub lord of 3,9 Badhaka; in star

& sub of Ju(4,5-8).

>

> Chart 4, Rolim Amaro, 15 Sept 1942, 16:00 PM, TZ 3hWest, Pereria Barreto,

Brazil, 20s38, 51w07, Asc Cp 28:12;01, NKPA 22:58:01, Saturn Dasa bal

17y:10m:15d, 8 July 2001 (Ve-Me-Ve-Sa) death in helicopter crash

> http://www.astro. com/astro- databank/ Amaro%2C_ Rolim

> Ve(7,5-10) is in own star & sub Ve(7,5-10).

> Me+(9,6-9), no planet in star of Me which is sub lord of 2,8; in star of

Ma(8,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of Ra(7), conj Su(8,8) & Ve(7,5-10).

> Sa(4,1-2); in star of Mo(10,7); in sub of Me+(9,6-9), no planet in star of Me

which is sub lord of 2,8.

>

> Chart 5, Jacques Thibaud, 27 Sept 1880, 18:00 PM LMT, 2m16secWest, Bordeaux,

France, 44n50, 00w34, Asc Pi 21:01:41, NKPA 22:06:08, Jupiter Dasa bal

7y:9m:10d, 1 Sept 1953 (Su-Ju-Ju-Ra) death in air crash

> http://www.astro. com/astro- databank/ Thibaud%2C_ Jacques

> Su+(6,6) is in star of Mo(4,5); and in sub of Ra(9), aspected by Mo(4,5) &

Ma(7 Badhaka,8-9) , its sign lord is Ju(1,1-10).

> Ju(1,1-10) is in star of Me(6,4-7 Badhaka); and in sub of Ma(7 Badhaka,8-9) .

> Ra(9), aspected by Mo(4,5) & Ma(7 Badhaka,8-9) , its sign lord is Ju(1,1-10);

Ra is in star of Ke(3), conj by Mo(4,5) & Ma(7 Badhaka,8-9) ; and in sub of

Sa+(1,11-12) .

>

> @gro ups.com, satyanarayana murthy <vsnm_vdl@ .> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Members of this group,

> > I request you one and all to observe an important point mentioned below:-

> > Dr. YSR died in an accident recently as CM of AP. His death resulted in loss

of

> > Office permanently. So this should be tallied as follows to the best of my

knowledge

> >  

> > 10th indicates Job/profession.

> > 4th house will be maraka 7th for 10th.

> > So, the marakastanas/ houses should be involved in this type of cases also.

> > I request all the members those who are having the natal chart of Dr.YSR.to

> > verify & check this and also observe the transit also on that date and time

of

> > accident occurred.

> > I once again request all of you express your ideas on this matter so that it

will be

> > most beneficial to all.

> > With best regards,

> > Yours faithfully,

> > VSN. Murthy.

> >

> >

> > From cricket scores to your friends. Try the India Homepage!

http://in.. com/trynew

> >

>

[Guest guest]

What is the rectified TOB?

 

 

, " murthyovn " <ovnmurthy wrote:

>

> Dear Sri VSN ji

>

> As indicated by u I have verified the chart of Dr. YS Rajasekhar Reddy (

chart was dicussed in the KPAF on Sunday 13th Sept.2009).

> Prest DBA is Ve-Ve-Ma,

> Scorpio Asc. Venus as l/o 7n12 in 9th cusp in Kethu star who is in Ascendant

in Mercury star (Scorpio) Mercury is l/o. 8n11 in 8th cusp. As Kethu is agent of

Mercury/ in Mars house who is l/o 1n6 in 9th cusp.

> Then Mars who is l/o 1n6 in 9th cusp.

> All DBA planets are connected to 9th cusp bhadhaka. However when searched for

the link of 4th cusp then I could see 4th cuspal sublord is Venus who is in 9th

bhava indicates loss of 10th house.

> Hence Sri VSN ji is very clear in his mind in identifying the point very

clearly.

>

> Regards

> OVN Murthy

>

>

>

> , " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Murthy ji and Friends,

> >

> > 1. 4th signification has been found involved in fatal accidental death as

can be found in the five cases attached and two death cases Astrovision Sept

2009 (DEATHS OF TWO HUSBANDS).

> > /message/22979

> > /message/23122

> > /message/23129

> >

> > 2. Such kind of unnatural/accidental death would happen ...

> > in the joint period of the significators of Maraka (2,7), Bdhaka, Moksha

(12) and 4 (end of everything, trigon 4,8,12), 6 (injury), 8 (accident) in the

case of unnatural death , and also 10 (retirement from this world) especially in

the cases of celebrities.

> > -Astrovision Sept 2009 (DEATHS OF TWO HUSBANDS)

> >

> > Regards,

> > tw

> >

> >

> > Chart 1, Y.S. Rajasekhara Reddy, 08 Jul 1949, 19:50 PM, Pulivendla, 14n25,

78e14, Asc Cp 08:49:28, NKPA 23:03:44, Ketu Dasa bal 6y:2m;30d, 02 Sept 2009

(Ra-Ke-Ma-Me) death in helicopter crash (KPAstro 3.1)

> > Dasa lord Ra+(3), no planet in star of Ra which is sub lord of 2,6,10, its

sign lord is Ju(12,3-12); Ra is in star of Me(5,6-9); and in sub of Sa(7,1-2).

> > Bhukti lord Ke(9), aspected by Ju(12,3-12), its sign lord is Me(5,6-9); in

star of Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of Sa(7,1-2).

> > Anthara lord Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in own star Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of

Ju(12,3-12).

> > Sookshma lord Me(5,6-9); in star Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of Ve+(7,5-10),

no planet in star of Ve which is sub lord of 1,7.

> >

> > Chart 2, Sanjay Gandhi, 14 Dec 1946, 09:27 AM, Delhi, 28n38, 77e17, Asc Cp

01:34:35, NKPA 23:01:35, Ketu Dasa bal 0y:4m:21d, 23 Jun 1980 (Mo-Me-Sa-Ve)

death in plane crash

> > Mo(8,7)is in star of Ke(11 Badhaka), conj Su(11 Badhaka) & Me(10,6-9), its

sign lord Ma+(11,4-11); and in sub of Me(10,6-9).

> > Me(10,6-9) is in star of Sa(7,1-2); in sub of Ve+(10,5-10).

> > Sa(7,1-2) is in own star Sa(7,1-2); in sub of Ju(10,3-12)

> > Ve+(10,5-10) is in star of Ju(10,3-12); in sub of Me(10,6-9).

> >

> > Chart 3, John F Kennedy Jr, 25 Nov 1960, 12:22 AM, TZ 5hWest, Washington,

DC, 38n53, 77w02, Asc Le 18:44:36, NKPA 23:13:16, Mars

> > http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Kennedy%2C_John_F._Jr.

> > Dasa bal 1y:3m:16d, 16 Jul 1999 (Sa-Me-Me-Sa) death in private plane crash

> > Sa(5,6-7); in star of Ve(4,3,10); in own sub Sa(5,6-7).

> > Me+(3,2-11), no planet in star of Me which is sub lord of 3,9 Badhaka; in

star & sub of Ju(4,5-8).

> >

> > Chart 4, Rolim Amaro, 15 Sept 1942, 16:00 PM, TZ 3hWest, Pereria Barreto,

Brazil, 20s38, 51w07, Asc Cp 28:12;01, NKPA 22:58:01, Saturn Dasa bal

17y:10m:15d, 8 July 2001 (Ve-Me-Ve-Sa) death in helicopter crash

> > http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Amaro%2C_Rolim

> > Ve(7,5-10) is in own star & sub Ve(7,5-10).

> > Me+(9,6-9), no planet in star of Me which is sub lord of 2,8; in star of

Ma(8,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of Ra(7), conj Su(8,8) & Ve(7,5-10).

> > Sa(4,1-2); in star of Mo(10,7); in sub of Me+(9,6-9), no planet in star of

Me which is sub lord of 2,8.

> >

> > Chart 5, Jacques Thibaud, 27 Sept 1880, 18:00 PM LMT, 2m16secWest, Bordeaux,

France, 44n50, 00w34, Asc Pi 21:01:41, NKPA 22:06:08, Jupiter Dasa bal

7y:9m:10d, 1 Sept 1953 (Su-Ju-Ju-Ra) death in air crash

> > http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Thibaud%2C_Jacques

> > Su+(6,6) is in star of Mo(4,5); and in sub of Ra(9), aspected by Mo(4,5) &

Ma(7 Badhaka,8-9), its sign lord is Ju(1,1-10).

> > Ju(1,1-10) is in star of Me(6,4-7 Badhaka); and in sub of Ma(7 Badhaka,8-9).

> > Ra(9), aspected by Mo(4,5) & Ma(7 Badhaka,8-9), its sign lord is Ju(1,1-10);

Ra is in star of Ke(3), conj by Mo(4,5) & Ma(7 Badhaka,8-9); and in sub of

Sa+(1,11-12).

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , satyanarayana murthy <vsnm_vdl@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Members of this group,

> > > I request you one and all to observe an important point mentioned below:-

> > > Dr. YSR died in an accident recently as CM of AP. His death resulted in

loss of

> > > Office permanently. So this should be tallied as follows to the best of my

knowledge

> > >  

> > > 10th indicates Job/profession.

> > > 4th house will be maraka 7th for 10th.

> > > So, the marakastanas/houses should be involved in this type of cases also.

> > > I request all the members those who are having the natal chart of

Dr.YSR.to

> > > verify & check this and also observe the transit also on that date and

time of

> > > accident occurred.

> > > I once again request all of you express your ideas on this matter so that

it will be

> > > most beneficial to all.

> > > With best regards,

> > > Yours faithfully,

> > > VSN. Murthy.

> > >

> > >

> > > From cricket scores to your friends. Try the India Homepage!

http://in./trynew

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

For the celebrities, no authentic and correct tob and dob will be made available to astrologers as to why no competitor will take undueadvantage of the black holes ofthe horoscope. Yet, shri YSR is no more thatswhy there is no harm in getting /giving correct time of birth as well as date of birth for those who are related to Sri YSR or the family members of YSR.

Vijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision, Kolhapur

+91 9422582853

 

On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 23:46:14 +0530 wrote

>

What is the rectified TOB?

 

, "murthyovn" wrote:

>

> Dear Sri VSN ji

>

> As indicated by u I have verified the chart of Dr. YS Rajasekhar Reddy ( chart was dicussed in the KPAF on Sunday 13th Sept.2009).

> Prest DBA is Ve-Ve-Ma,

> Scorpio Asc. Venus as l/o 7n12 in 9th cusp in Kethu star who is in Ascendant in Mercury star (Scorpio) Mercury is l/o. 8n11 in 8th cusp. As Kethu is agent of Mercury/ in Mars house who is l/o 1n6 in 9th cusp.

> Then Mars who is l/o 1n6 in 9th cusp.

> All DBA planets are connected to 9th cusp bhadhaka. However when searched for the link of 4th cusp then I could see 4th cuspal sublord is Venus who is in 9th bhava indicates loss of 10th house.

> Hence Sri VSN ji is very clear in his mind in identifying the point very clearly.

>

> Regards

> OVN Murthy

>

>

>

> , "tw853" wrote:

> >

> > Dear Murthy ji and Friends,

> >

> > 1. 4th signification has been found involved in fatal accidental death as can be found in the five cases attached and two death cases Astrovision Sept 2009 (DEATHS OF TWO HUSBANDS).

> > /message/22979

> > /message/23122

> > /message/23129

> >

> > 2. Such kind of unnatural/accidental death would happen ...

> > in the joint period of the significators of Maraka (2,7), Bdhaka, Moksha (12) and 4 (end of everything, trigon 4,8,12), 6 (injury), 8 (accident) in the case of unnatural death , and also 10 (retirement from this world) especially in the cases of celebrities.

> > -Astrovision Sept 2009 (DEATHS OF TWO HUSBANDS)

> >

> > Regards,

> > tw

> >

> >

> > Chart 1, Y.S. Rajasekhara Reddy, 08 Jul 1949, 19:50 PM, Pulivendla, 14n25, 78e14, Asc Cp 08:49:28, NKPA 23:03:44, Ketu Dasa bal 6y:2m;30d, 02 Sept 2009 (Ra-Ke-Ma-Me) death in helicopter crash (KPAstro 3.1)

> > Dasa lord Ra+(3), no planet in star of Ra which is sub lord of 2,6,10, its sign lord is Ju(12,3-12); Ra is in star of Me(5,6-9); and in sub of Sa(7,1-2).

> > Bhukti lord Ke(9), aspected by Ju(12,3-12), its sign lord is Me(5,6-9); in star of Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of Sa(7,1-2).

> > Anthara lord Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in own star Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of Ju(12,3-12).

> > Sookshma lord Me(5,6-9); in star Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of Ve+(7,5-10), no planet in star of Ve which is sub lord of 1,7.

> >

> > Chart 2, Sanjay Gandhi, 14 Dec 1946, 09:27 AM, Delhi, 28n38, 77e17, Asc Cp 01:34:35, NKPA 23:01:35, Ketu Dasa bal 0y:4m:21d, 23 Jun 1980 (Mo-Me-Sa-Ve) death in plane crash

> > Mo(8,7)is in star of Ke(11 Badhaka), conj Su(11 Badhaka) Me(10,6-9), its sign lord Ma+(11,4-11); and in sub of Me(10,6-9).

> > Me(10,6-9) is in star of Sa(7,1-2); in sub of Ve+(10,5-10).

> > Sa(7,1-2) is in own star Sa(7,1-2); in sub of Ju(10,3-12)

> > Ve+(10,5-10) is in star of Ju(10,3-12); in sub of Me(10,6-9).

> >

> > Chart 3, John F Kennedy Jr, 25 Nov 1960, 12:22 AM, TZ 5hWest, Washington, DC, 38n53, 77w02, Asc Le 18:44:36, NKPA 23:13:16, Mars

> > http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Kennedy%2C_John_F._Jr.

> > Dasa bal 1y:3m:16d, 16 Jul 1999 (Sa-Me-Me-Sa) death in private plane crash

> > Sa(5,6-7); in star of Ve(4,3,10); in own sub Sa(5,6-7).

> > Me+(3,2-11), no planet in star of Me which is sub lord of 3,9 Badhaka; in star sub of Ju(4,5-8).

> >

> > Chart 4, Rolim Amaro, 15 Sept 1942, 16:00 PM, TZ 3hWest, Pereria Barreto, Brazil, 20s38, 51w07, Asc Cp 28:12;01, NKPA 22:58:01, Saturn Dasa bal 17y:10m:15d, 8 July 2001 (Ve-Me-Ve-Sa) death in helicopter crash

> > http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Amaro%2C_Rolim

> > Ve(7,5-10) is in own star sub Ve(7,5-10).

> > Me+(9,6-9), no planet in star of Me which is sub lord of 2,8; in star of Ma(8,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of Ra(7), conj Su(8,8) Ve(7,5-10).

> > Sa(4,1-2); in star of Mo(10,7); in sub of Me+(9,6-9), no planet in star of Me which is sub lord of 2,8.

> >

> > Chart 5, Jacques Thibaud, 27 Sept 1880, 18:00 PM LMT, 2m16secWest, Bordeaux, France, 44n50, 00w34, Asc Pi 21:01:41, NKPA 22:06:08, Jupiter Dasa bal 7y:9m:10d, 1 Sept 1953 (Su-Ju-Ju-Ra) death in air crash

> > http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Thibaud%2C_Jacques

> > Su+(6,6) is in star of Mo(4,5); and in sub of Ra(9), aspected by Mo(4,5) Ma(7 Badhaka,8-9), its sign lord is Ju(1,1-10).

> > Ju(1,1-10) is in star of Me(6,4-7 Badhaka); and in sub of Ma(7 Badhaka,8-9).

> > Ra(9), aspected by Mo(4,5) Ma(7 Badhaka,8-9), its sign lord is Ju(1,1-10); Ra is in star of Ke(3), conj by Mo(4,5) Ma(7 Badhaka,8-9); and in sub of Sa+(1,11-12).

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , satyanarayana murthy wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Members of this group,

> > > I request you one and all to observe an important point mentioned below:-

> > > Dr. YSR died in an accident recently as CM of AP. His death resulted in loss of

> > > Office permanently. So this should be tallied as follows to the best of my knowledge

> > >  

> > > 10th indicates Job/profession.

> > > 4th house will be maraka 7th for 10th.

> > > So, the marakastanas/houses should be involved in this type of cases also.

> > > I request all the members those who are having the natal chart of Dr.YSR.to

> > > verify check this and also observe the transit also on that date and time of

> > > accident occurred.

> > > I once again request all of you express your ideas on this matter so that it will be

> > > most beneficial to all.

> > > With best regards,

> > > Yours faithfully,

> > > VSN. Murthy.

> > >

> > >

> > > From cricket scores to your friends. Try the India Homepage! http://in./trynew

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Friends,

 

1. What I'm asking is the birth details on which basis Murthy ji is talking,

otherwise no body knows what is talking on which chart.

 

2. For instance, there is misunderstanding regarding the chart in--

/message/27452

One member is using the original chart details--

KP number 57, a horary chart on 13th Sep 09 at 9:55:22 am at location 73 E 55 *

18 N 31

and another member is using another chart details--

15th sept 2009

7:19:23 am

Atlanta USA

/message/27538?threaded=1 & l=1

and there is a misunderstanding why Mercury's star and sub are different.

 

3. What kind of birth details, reliable or unreliable or rectified doen't

matter. The point is to be able to follow what is talking on which chart

details.

 

4. There are thousands of AA chart details for astrological research work in the

AstroDatabank 4.0 SW, now also available at--

http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Main_Page

 

Regards,

tw

 

" AA --- Accurate data as recorded by the family or state. This includes BC

(birth certificate), and BR (birth record), that which is not an official

document but a quote of the birth record from the Registrar or Bureau of

Records, the baptismal certificate, family Bible, or baby book. These data

reflect the best available accuracy. "

 

 

 

, " VIJAYANAND PATIL "

<guide_vijayanand wrote:

>

> For the celebrities, no authentic and correct tob and dob will be made

available to astrologers as to why no competitor will take undueadvantage of the

black holes ofthe horoscope. Yet, shri YSR is no more thatswhy there is no harm

in getting /giving correct time of birth as well as date of birth for those who

are related to Sri YSR or the family members of YSR.

> Vijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision, Kolhapur

> +91 9422582853

>

> On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 23:46:14 +0530 wrote

> >

> What is the rectified TOB?

>

> , " murthyovn " wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sri VSN ji

> >

> > As indicated by u I have verified the chart of Dr. YS Rajasekhar Reddy (

chart was dicussed in the KPAF on Sunday 13th Sept.2009).

> > Prest DBA is Ve-Ve-Ma,

> > Scorpio Asc. Venus as l/o 7n12 in 9th cusp in Kethu star who is in Ascendant

in Mercury star (Scorpio) Mercury is l/o. 8n11 in 8th cusp. As Kethu is agent of

Mercury/ in Mars house who is l/o 1n6 in 9th cusp.

> > Then Mars who is l/o 1n6 in 9th cusp.

> > All DBA planets are connected to 9th cusp bhadhaka. However when searched

for the link of 4th cusp then I could see 4th cuspal sublord is Venus who is in

9th bhava indicates loss of 10th house.

> > Hence Sri VSN ji is very clear in his mind in identifying the point very

clearly.

> >

> > Regards

> > OVN Murthy

> >

> >

> >

> > , " tw853 " wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Murthy ji and Friends,

> > >

> > > 1. 4th signification has been found involved in fatal accidental death as

can be found in the five cases attached and two death cases Astrovision Sept

2009 (DEATHS OF TWO HUSBANDS).

> > > /message/22979

> > > /message/23122

> > > /message/23129

> > >

> > > 2. Such kind of unnatural/accidental death would happen ...

> > > in the joint period of the significators of Maraka (2,7), Bdhaka, Moksha

(12) and 4 (end of everything, trigon 4,8,12), 6 (injury), 8 (accident) in the

case of unnatural death , and also 10 (retirement from this world) especially in

the cases of celebrities.

> > > -Astrovision Sept 2009 (DEATHS OF TWO HUSBANDS)

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > tw

> > >

> > >

> > > Chart 1, Y.S. Rajasekhara Reddy, 08 Jul 1949, 19:50 PM, Pulivendla, 14n25,

78e14, Asc Cp 08:49:28, NKPA 23:03:44, Ketu Dasa bal 6y:2m;30d, 02 Sept 2009

(Ra-Ke-Ma-Me) death in helicopter crash (KPAstro 3.1)

> > > Dasa lord Ra+(3), no planet in star of Ra which is sub lord of 2,6,10, its

sign lord is Ju(12,3-12); Ra is in star of Me(5,6-9); and in sub of Sa(7,1-2).

> > > Bhukti lord Ke(9), aspected by Ju(12,3-12), its sign lord is Me(5,6-9);

in star of Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of Sa(7,1-2).

> > > Anthara lord Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in own star Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of

Ju(12,3-12).

> > > Sookshma lord Me(5,6-9); in star Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of

Ve+(7,5-10), no planet in star of Ve which is sub lord of 1,7.

> > >

> > > Chart 2, Sanjay Gandhi, 14 Dec 1946, 09:27 AM, Delhi, 28n38, 77e17, Asc Cp

01:34:35, NKPA 23:01:35, Ketu Dasa bal 0y:4m:21d, 23 Jun 1980 (Mo-Me-Sa-Ve)

death in plane crash

> > > Mo(8,7)is in star of Ke(11 Badhaka), conj Su(11 Badhaka) & Me(10,6-9), its

sign lord Ma+(11,4-11); and in sub of Me(10,6-9).

> > > Me(10,6-9) is in star of Sa(7,1-2); in sub of Ve+(10,5-10).

> > > Sa(7,1-2) is in own star Sa(7,1-2); in sub of Ju(10,3-12)

> > > Ve+(10,5-10) is in star of Ju(10,3-12); in sub of Me(10,6-9).

> > >

> > > Chart 3, John F Kennedy Jr, 25 Nov 1960, 12:22 AM, TZ 5hWest, Washington,

DC, 38n53, 77w02, Asc Le 18:44:36, NKPA 23:13:16, Mars

> > > http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Kennedy%2C_John_F._Jr.

> > > Dasa bal 1y:3m:16d, 16 Jul 1999 (Sa-Me-Me-Sa) death in private plane crash

> > > Sa(5,6-7); in star of Ve(4,3,10); in own sub Sa(5,6-7).

> > > Me+(3,2-11), no planet in star of Me which is sub lord of 3,9 Badhaka; in

star & sub of Ju(4,5-8).

> > >

> > > Chart 4, Rolim Amaro, 15 Sept 1942, 16:00 PM, TZ 3hWest, Pereria Barreto,

Brazil, 20s38, 51w07, Asc Cp 28:12;01, NKPA 22:58:01, Saturn Dasa bal

17y:10m:15d, 8 July 2001 (Ve-Me-Ve-Sa) death in helicopter crash

> > > http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Amaro%2C_Rolim

> > > Ve(7,5-10) is in own star & sub Ve(7,5-10).

> > > Me+(9,6-9), no planet in star of Me which is sub lord of 2,8; in star of

Ma(8,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of Ra(7), conj Su(8,8) & Ve(7,5-10).

> > > Sa(4,1-2); in star of Mo(10,7); in sub of Me+(9,6-9), no planet in star of

Me which is sub lord of 2,8.

> > >

> > > Chart 5, Jacques Thibaud, 27 Sept 1880, 18:00 PM LMT, 2m16secWest,

Bordeaux, France, 44n50, 00w34, Asc Pi 21:01:41, NKPA 22:06:08, Jupiter Dasa bal

7y:9m:10d, 1 Sept 1953 (Su-Ju-Ju-Ra) death in air crash

> > > http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Thibaud%2C_Jacques

> > > Su+(6,6) is in star of Mo(4,5); and in sub of Ra(9), aspected by Mo(4,5)

& Ma(7 Badhaka,8-9), its sign lord is Ju(1,1-10).

> > > Ju(1,1-10) is in star of Me(6,4-7 Badhaka); and in sub of Ma(7

Badhaka,8-9).

> > > Ra(9), aspected by Mo(4,5) & Ma(7 Badhaka,8-9), its sign lord is

Ju(1,1-10); Ra is in star of Ke(3), conj by Mo(4,5) & Ma(7 Badhaka,8-9); and in

sub of Sa+(1,11-12).

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , satyanarayana murthy wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Members of this group,

> > > > I request you one and all to observe an important point mentioned

below:-

> > > > Dr. YSR died in an accident recently as CM of AP. His death resulted in

loss of

> > > > Office permanently. So this should be tallied as follows to the best of

my knowledge

> > > >  

> > > > 10th indicates Job/profession.

> > > > 4th house will be maraka 7th for 10th.

> > > > So, the marakastanas/houses should be involved in this type of cases

also.

> > > > I request all the members those who are having the natal chart of

Dr.YSR.to

> > > > verify & check this and also observe the transit also on that date and

time of

> > > > accident occurred.

> > > > I once again request all of you express your ideas on this matter so

that it will be

> > > > most beneficial to all.

> > > > With best regards,

> > > > Yours faithfully,

> > > > VSN. Murthy.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > From cricket scores to your friends. Try the India

Homepage! http://in./trynew

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Friends,

 

1. Considering 4th house as Marak 7th to 10th, mentioned by Murthy ji, is found

in the " KP's Astrology & Prime Ministers " by Kousalya Sattainathan page 52, in

the analysis of Lal Bahadur Sastri's death, i.e. whenever there is permanent

loss of office like this , the Maraka Houses to the 10th house will be involved.

 

2. What I've observed is 4th house involvement in the fatal accidents in the

sense of end of everything (KP Reader II page 195 second last para) and 4,8,12

trigon for accident (by Kudanthai Nathan, Astrosecerts Part II page 94 and KM

Subramaniam in Sublord Speaks-2 pp 62, 108).

 

Regards,

TW

, " tw853 " <tw853 wrote:

>

> Dear Friends,

>

> 1. What I'm asking is the birth details on which basis Murthy ji is talking,

otherwise no body knows what is talking on which chart.

>

> 2. For instance, there is misunderstanding regarding the chart in--

> /message/27452

> One member is using the original chart details--

> KP number 57, a horary chart on 13th Sep 09 at 9:55:22 am at location 73 E 55

* 18 N 31

> and another member is using another chart details--

> 15th sept 2009

> 7:19:23 am

> Atlanta USA

> /message/27538?threaded=1 & l=1

> and there is a misunderstanding why Mercury's star and sub are different.

>

> 3. What kind of birth details, reliable or unreliable or rectified doen't

matter. The point is to be able to follow what is talking on which chart

details.

>

> 4. There are thousands of AA chart details for astrological research work in

the AstroDatabank 4.0 SW, now also available at--

> http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Main_Page

>

> Regards,

> tw

>

> " AA --- Accurate data as recorded by the family or state. This includes BC

(birth certificate), and BR (birth record), that which is not an official

document but a quote of the birth record from the Registrar or Bureau of

Records, the baptismal certificate, family Bible, or baby book. These data

reflect the best available accuracy. "

>

>

>

> , " VIJAYANAND PATIL "

<guide_vijayanand@> wrote:

> >

> > For the celebrities, no authentic and correct tob and dob will be made

available to astrologers as to why no competitor will take undueadvantage of the

black holes ofthe horoscope. Yet, shri YSR is no more thatswhy there is no harm

in getting /giving correct time of birth as well as date of birth for those who

are related to Sri YSR or the family members of YSR.

> > Vijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision, Kolhapur

> > +91 9422582853

> >

> > On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 23:46:14 +0530 wrote

> > >

> > What is the rectified TOB?

> >

> > , " murthyovn " wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sri VSN ji

> > >

> > > As indicated by u I have verified the chart of Dr. YS Rajasekhar Reddy (

chart was dicussed in the KPAF on Sunday 13th Sept.2009).

> > > Prest DBA is Ve-Ve-Ma,

> > > Scorpio Asc. Venus as l/o 7n12 in 9th cusp in Kethu star who is in

Ascendant in Mercury star (Scorpio) Mercury is l/o. 8n11 in 8th cusp. As Kethu

is agent of Mercury/ in Mars house who is l/o 1n6 in 9th cusp.

> > > Then Mars who is l/o 1n6 in 9th cusp.

> > > All DBA planets are connected to 9th cusp bhadhaka. However when searched

for the link of 4th cusp then I could see 4th cuspal sublord is Venus who is in

9th bhava indicates loss of 10th house.

> > > Hence Sri VSN ji is very clear in his mind in identifying the point very

clearly.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > OVN Murthy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " tw853 " wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Murthy ji and Friends,

> > > >

> > > > 1. 4th signification has been found involved in fatal accidental death

as can be found in the five cases attached and two death cases Astrovision Sept

2009 (DEATHS OF TWO HUSBANDS).

> > > > /message/22979

> > > > /message/23122

> > > > /message/23129

> > > >

> > > > 2. Such kind of unnatural/accidental death would happen ...

> > > > in the joint period of the significators of Maraka (2,7), Bdhaka, Moksha

(12) and 4 (end of everything, trigon 4,8,12), 6 (injury), 8 (accident) in the

case of unnatural death , and also 10 (retirement from this world) especially in

the cases of celebrities.

> > > > -Astrovision Sept 2009 (DEATHS OF TWO HUSBANDS)

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > tw

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Chart 1, Y.S. Rajasekhara Reddy, 08 Jul 1949, 19:50 PM, Pulivendla,

14n25, 78e14, Asc Cp 08:49:28, NKPA 23:03:44, Ketu Dasa bal 6y:2m;30d, 02 Sept

2009 (Ra-Ke-Ma-Me) death in helicopter crash (KPAstro 3.1)

> > > > Dasa lord Ra+(3), no planet in star of Ra which is sub lord of 2,6,10,

its sign lord is Ju(12,3-12); Ra is in star of Me(5,6-9); and in sub of

Sa(7,1-2).

> > > > Bhukti lord Ke(9), aspected by Ju(12,3-12), its sign lord is Me(5,6-9);

in star of Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of Sa(7,1-2).

> > > > Anthara lord Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in own star Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in sub

of Ju(12,3-12).

> > > > Sookshma lord Me(5,6-9); in star Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of

Ve+(7,5-10), no planet in star of Ve which is sub lord of 1,7.

> > > >

> > > > Chart 2, Sanjay Gandhi, 14 Dec 1946, 09:27 AM, Delhi, 28n38, 77e17, Asc

Cp 01:34:35, NKPA 23:01:35, Ketu Dasa bal 0y:4m:21d, 23 Jun 1980 (Mo-Me-Sa-Ve)

death in plane crash

> > > > Mo(8,7)is in star of Ke(11 Badhaka), conj Su(11 Badhaka) & Me(10,6-9),

its sign lord Ma+(11,4-11); and in sub of Me(10,6-9).

> > > > Me(10,6-9) is in star of Sa(7,1-2); in sub of Ve+(10,5-10).

> > > > Sa(7,1-2) is in own star Sa(7,1-2); in sub of Ju(10,3-12)

> > > > Ve+(10,5-10) is in star of Ju(10,3-12); in sub of Me(10,6-9).

> > > >

> > > > Chart 3, John F Kennedy Jr, 25 Nov 1960, 12:22 AM, TZ 5hWest,

Washington, DC, 38n53, 77w02, Asc Le 18:44:36, NKPA 23:13:16, Mars

> > > > http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Kennedy%2C_John_F._Jr.

> > > > Dasa bal 1y:3m:16d, 16 Jul 1999 (Sa-Me-Me-Sa) death in private plane

crash

> > > > Sa(5,6-7); in star of Ve(4,3,10); in own sub Sa(5,6-7).

> > > > Me+(3,2-11), no planet in star of Me which is sub lord of 3,9 Badhaka;

in star & sub of Ju(4,5-8).

> > > >

> > > > Chart 4, Rolim Amaro, 15 Sept 1942, 16:00 PM, TZ 3hWest, Pereria

Barreto, Brazil, 20s38, 51w07, Asc Cp 28:12;01, NKPA 22:58:01, Saturn Dasa bal

17y:10m:15d, 8 July 2001 (Ve-Me-Ve-Sa) death in helicopter crash

> > > > http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Amaro%2C_Rolim

> > > > Ve(7,5-10) is in own star & sub Ve(7,5-10).

> > > > Me+(9,6-9), no planet in star of Me which is sub lord of 2,8; in star of

Ma(8,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of Ra(7), conj Su(8,8) & Ve(7,5-10).

> > > > Sa(4,1-2); in star of Mo(10,7); in sub of Me+(9,6-9), no planet in star

of Me which is sub lord of 2,8.

> > > >

> > > > Chart 5, Jacques Thibaud, 27 Sept 1880, 18:00 PM LMT, 2m16secWest,

Bordeaux, France, 44n50, 00w34, Asc Pi 21:01:41, NKPA 22:06:08, Jupiter Dasa bal

7y:9m:10d, 1 Sept 1953 (Su-Ju-Ju-Ra) death in air crash

> > > > http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Thibaud%2C_Jacques

> > > > Su+(6,6) is in star of Mo(4,5); and in sub of Ra(9), aspected by

Mo(4,5) & Ma(7 Badhaka,8-9), its sign lord is Ju(1,1-10).

> > > > Ju(1,1-10) is in star of Me(6,4-7 Badhaka); and in sub of Ma(7

Badhaka,8-9).

> > > > Ra(9), aspected by Mo(4,5) & Ma(7 Badhaka,8-9), its sign lord is

Ju(1,1-10); Ra is in star of Ke(3), conj by Mo(4,5) & Ma(7 Badhaka,8-9); and in

sub of Sa+(1,11-12).

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , satyanarayana murthy wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Members of this group,

> > > > > I request you one and all to observe an important point mentioned

below:-

> > > > > Dr. YSR died in an accident recently as CM of AP. His death resulted

in loss of

> > > > > Office permanently. So this should be tallied as follows to the best

of my knowledge

> > > > >  

> > > > > 10th indicates Job/profession.

> > > > > 4th house will be maraka 7th for 10th.

> > > > > So, the marakastanas/houses should be involved in this type of cases

also.

> > > > > I request all the members those who are having the natal chart of

Dr.YSR.to

> > > > > verify & check this and also observe the transit also on that date and

time of

> > > > > accident occurred.

> > > > > I once again request all of you express your ideas on this matter so

that it will be

> > > > > most beneficial to all.

> > > > > With best regards,

> > > > > Yours faithfully,

> > > > > VSN. Murthy.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > From cricket scores to your friends. Try the India

Homepage! http://in./trynew

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Respected Sirji,

When we consider 4th house as the marak 7th to 10 as in the case of Shri YSR Reddi, then will it be possible for us for defeat of every office bearers of legislative assembly/parliament/z.p/Block Committees or any person who is the now mp/mla/minister or like? and if this is the case, then in forthcoming Assembly Elections in some of the states, in this election, the continuing mla/mlc's will win the election or not, this question is to be tried from 4th house. Is it correct and possible. Because so many Ministers including chief ministers ceased to be chief minister/ministers in the next election in the same state, where the total political career is come to an end defeated by the competitors. So it is the only rational one way of thinking to match the date of death to the planetory setup as well as DBA's.

You can take the case of Ex Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh Chandra Babu Naidu, Where he ceased to be chief minister as well as his political career was come in problem. Will anybody focus light on it?

 

Vijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision, Kolhapur

Cell No. +91 9422582853

 

On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:35:18 +0530 wrote

> Dear Friends,1. Considering 4th house as Marak 7th to 10th, mentioned by Murthy ji, is found in the "KP's Astrology Prime Ministers" by Kousalya Sattainathan page 52, in the analysis of Lal Bahadur Sastri's death, i.e. whenever there is permanent loss of office like this , the Maraka Houses to the 10th house will be involved.2. What I've observed is 4th house involvement in the fatal accidents in the sense of end of everything (KP Reader II page 195 second last para) and 4,8,12 trigon for accident (by Kudanthai Nathan, Astrosecerts Part II page 94 and KM Subramaniam in Sublord Speaks-2 pp 62, 108).Regards,TW , "tw853" wrote:>> Dear Friends,> > 1. What I'm asking is the birth details on which basis Murthy ji is talking, otherwise no body knows what is talking on which chart.> > 2. For instance, there is misunderstanding regarding the chart in--> /message/27452> One member is using the original chart details--> KP number 57, a horary chart on 13th Sep 09 at 9:55:22 am at location 73 E 55 * 18 N 31> and another member is using another chart details--> 15th sept 2009> 7:19:23 am > Atlanta USA> /message/27538?threaded=1&l=1> and there is a misunderstanding why Mercury's star and sub are different.> > 3. What kind of birth details, reliable or unreliable or rectified doen't matter. The point is to be able to follow what is talking on which chart details.> > 4. There are thousands of AA chart details for astrological research work in the AstroDatabank 4.0 SW, now also available at--> http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Main_Page> > Regards,> tw> > "AA --- Accurate data as recorded by the family or state. This includes BC (birth certificate), and BR (birth record), that which is not an official document but a quote of the birth record from the Registrar or Bureau of Records, the baptismal certificate, family Bible, or baby book. These data reflect the best available accuracy." > > > > , "VIJAYANAND PATIL" wrote:> >> > For the celebrities, no authentic and correct tob and dob will be made available to astrologers as to why no competitor will take undueadvantage of the black holes ofthe horoscope. Yet, shri YSR is no more thatswhy there is no harm in getting /giving correct time of birth as well as date of birth for those who are related to Sri YSR or the family members of YSR.> > Vijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision, Kolhapur> > +91 9422582853> > > > On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 23:46:14 +0530 wrote> > > > > What is the rectified TOB?> > > > , "murthyovn" wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sri VSN ji> > > > > > As indicated by u I have verified the chart of Dr. YS Rajasekhar Reddy ( chart was dicussed in the KPAF on Sunday 13th Sept.2009).> > > Prest DBA is Ve-Ve-Ma, > > > Scorpio Asc. Venus as l/o 7n12 in 9th cusp in Kethu star who is in Ascendant in Mercury star (Scorpio) Mercury is l/o. 8n11 in 8th cusp. As Kethu is agent of Mercury/ in Mars house who is l/o 1n6 in 9th cusp. > > > Then Mars who is l/o 1n6 in 9th cusp. > > > All DBA planets are connected to 9th cusp bhadhaka. However when searched for the link of 4th cusp then I could see 4th cuspal sublord is Venus who is in 9th bhava indicates loss of 10th house.> > > Hence Sri VSN ji is very clear in his mind in identifying the point very clearly.> > > > > > Regards> > > OVN Murthy> > > > > > > > > > > > , "tw853" wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Murthy ji and Friends,> > > > > > > > 1. 4th signification has been found involved in fatal accidental death as can be found in the five cases attached and two death cases Astrovision Sept 2009 (DEATHS OF TWO HUSBANDS).> > > > /message/22979> > > > /message/23122> > > > /message/23129> > > > > > > > 2. Such kind of unnatural/accidental death would happen ...> > > > in the joint period of the significators of Maraka (2,7), Bdhaka, Moksha (12) and 4 (end of everything, trigon 4,8,12), 6 (injury), 8 (accident) in the case of unnatural death , and also 10 (retirement from this world) especially in the cases of celebrities.> > > > -Astrovision Sept 2009 (DEATHS OF TWO HUSBANDS)> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > tw> > > > > > > > > > > > Chart 1, Y.S. Rajasekhara Reddy, 08 Jul 1949, 19:50 PM, Pulivendla, 14n25, 78e14, Asc Cp 08:49:28, NKPA 23:03:44, Ketu Dasa bal 6y:2m;30d, 02 Sept 2009 (Ra-Ke-Ma-Me) death in helicopter crash (KPAstro 3.1) > > > > Dasa lord Ra+(3), no planet in star of Ra which is sub lord of 2,6,10, its sign lord is Ju(12,3-12); Ra is in star of Me(5,6-9); and in sub of Sa(7,1-2).> > > > Bhukti lord Ke(9), aspected by Ju(12,3-12), its sign lord is Me(5,6-9); in star of Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of Sa(7,1-2).> > > > Anthara lord Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in own star Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of Ju(12,3-12).> > > > Sookshma lord Me(5,6-9); in star Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of Ve+(7,5-10), no planet in star of Ve which is sub lord of 1,7.> > > > > > > > Chart 2, Sanjay Gandhi, 14 Dec 1946, 09:27 AM, Delhi, 28n38, 77e17, Asc Cp 01:34:35, NKPA 23:01:35, Ketu Dasa bal 0y:4m:21d, 23 Jun 1980 (Mo-Me-Sa-Ve) death in plane crash > > > > Mo(8,7)is in star of Ke(11 Badhaka), conj Su(11 Badhaka) Me(10,6-9), its sign lord Ma+(11,4-11); and in sub of Me(10,6-9).> > > > Me(10,6-9) is in star of Sa(7,1-2); in sub of Ve+(10,5-10).> > > > Sa(7,1-2) is in own star Sa(7,1-2); in sub of Ju(10,3-12)> > > > Ve+(10,5-10) is in star of Ju(10,3-12); in sub of Me(10,6-9).> > > > > > > > Chart 3, John F Kennedy Jr, 25 Nov 1960, 12:22 AM, TZ 5hWest, Washington, DC, 38n53, 77w02, Asc Le 18:44:36, NKPA 23:13:16, Mars > > > > http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Kennedy%2C_John_F._Jr.> > > > Dasa bal 1y:3m:16d, 16 Jul 1999 (Sa-Me-Me-Sa) death in private plane crash> > > > Sa(5,6-7); in star of Ve(4,3,10); in own sub Sa(5,6-7).> > > > Me+(3,2-11), no planet in star of Me which is sub lord of 3,9 Badhaka; in star sub of Ju(4,5-8).> > > > > > > > Chart 4, Rolim Amaro, 15 Sept 1942, 16:00 PM, TZ 3hWest, Pereria Barreto, Brazil, 20s38, 51w07, Asc Cp 28:12;01, NKPA 22:58:01, Saturn Dasa bal 17y:10m:15d, 8 July 2001 (Ve-Me-Ve-Sa) death in helicopter crash> > > > http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Amaro%2C_Rolim> > > > Ve(7,5-10) is in own star sub Ve(7,5-10).> > > > Me+(9,6-9), no planet in star of Me which is sub lord of 2,8; in star of Ma(8,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of Ra(7), conj Su(8,8) Ve(7,5-10).> > > > Sa(4,1-2); in star of Mo(10,7); in sub of Me+(9,6-9), no planet in star of Me which is sub lord of 2,8.> > > > > > > > Chart 5, Jacques Thibaud, 27 Sept 1880, 18:00 PM LMT, 2m16secWest, Bordeaux, France, 44n50, 00w34, Asc Pi 21:01:41, NKPA 22:06:08, Jupiter Dasa bal 7y:9m:10d, 1 Sept 1953 (Su-Ju-Ju-Ra) death in air crash> > > > http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Thibaud%2C_Jacques> > > > Su+(6,6) is in star of Mo(4,5); and in sub of Ra(9), aspected by Mo(4,5) Ma(7 Badhaka,8-9), its sign lord is Ju(1,1-10).> > > > Ju(1,1-10) is in star of Me(6,4-7 Badhaka); and in sub of Ma(7 Badhaka,8-9).> > > > Ra(9), aspected by Mo(4,5) Ma(7 Badhaka,8-9), its sign lord is Ju(1,1-10); Ra is in star of Ke(3), conj by Mo(4,5) Ma(7 Badhaka,8-9); and in sub of Sa+(1,11-12).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , satyanarayana murthy wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Respected Members of this group,> > > > > I request you one and all to observe an important point mentioned below:-> > > > > Dr. YSR died in an accident recently as CM of AP. His death resulted in loss of > > > > > Office permanently. So this should be tallied as follows to the best of my knowledge> > > > >  > > > > > 10th indicates Job/profession. > > > > > 4th house will be maraka 7th for 10th.> > > > > So, the marakastanas/houses should be involved in this type of cases also. > > > > > I request all the members those who are having the natal chart of Dr.YSR.to> > > > > verify check this and also observe the transit also on that date and time of> > > > > accident occurred.> > > > > I once again request all of you express your ideas on this matter so that it will be > > > > > most beneficial to all. > > > > > With best regards,> > > > > Yours faithfully, > > > > > VSN. Murthy.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From cricket scores to your friends. Try the India Homepage! http://in./trynew> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Dear Vijayanand Patil,

 

1. What Kousalya Sattainathan ji and Murthy ji are advocating is that the 4th

house (as maraka 7th to 10th of native) signification could involve in the

signification of DBAS at the time of death of high rank politicians in office.

4th is to be considered in their death prediction only and nothing to do with

what is left behind after their death.

 

2. Ms. Kousalya Sattainathan mentioned it in the case of Lal Bahadur Sastri's

death only but not in the case of Indira Gandhi's death.

 

3. What I've observed is 4th signification (end of everything) in the cases of

fatal accidenta, and 10th signification (retirement from this world) in the

cases of death of high power politicians and well known people with fame

benifited from 10th signification.

 

4. It isn't a big deal and can be checked by easily available data.

 

Regards,

TW

 

 

, " VIJAYANAND PATIL "

<guide_vijayanand wrote:

>

> Respected Sirji,

> When we consider 4th house as the marak 7th to 10 as in the case of Shri YSR

Reddi, then will it be possible for us for defeat of every office bearers of

legislative assembly/parliament/z.p/Block Committees or any person who is the

now mp/mla/minister or like? and if this is the case, then in forthcoming

Assembly Elections in some of the states, in this election, the continuing

mla/mlc's will win the election or not, this question is to be tried from 4th

house. Is it correct and possible. Because so many Ministers including chief

ministers ceased to be chief minister/ministers in the next election in the same

state, where the total political career is come to an end defeated by the

competitors. So it is the only rational one way of thinking to match the date

of death to the planetory setup as well as DBA's.

> You can take the case of Ex Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh Chandra Babu

Naidu, Where he ceased to be chief minister as well as his political career was

come in problem. Will anybody focus light on it?

>

> Vijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision, Kolhapur

> Cell No. +91 9422582853

>

> On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:35:18 +0530 wrote

> > Dear Friends,1. Considering 4th house as Marak 7th to

10th, mentioned by Murthy ji, is found in the " KP's Astrology & Prime Ministers "

by Kousalya Sattainathan page 52, in the analysis of Lal Bahadur Sastri's death,

i.e. whenever there is permanent loss of office like this , the Maraka Houses to

the 10th house will be involved.2. What I've observed is 4th house involvement

in the fatal accidents in the sense of end of everything (KP Reader II page 195

second last para) and 4,8,12 trigon for accident (by Kudanthai Nathan,

Astrosecerts Part II page 94 and KM Subramaniam in Sublord Speaks-2 pp 62,

108).Regards,TW , " tw853 " wrote:>> Dear

Friends,> > 1. What I'm asking is the birth details on which basis Murthy ji is

talking, otherwise no body knows what is talking on which chart.> > 2. For

instance, there is misunderstanding regarding the chart in-->

/message/27452> One member is using the

original chart details--> KP number 57, a horary chart on 13th Sep 09 at 9:55:22

am at location 73 E 55 * 18 N 31> and another member is using another chart

details--> 15th sept 2009> 7:19:23 am > Atlanta USA>

/message/27538?threaded=1 & l=1> and there

is a misunderstanding why Mercury's star and sub are different.> > 3. What kind

of birth details, reliable or unreliable or rectified doen't matter. The point

is to be able to follow what is talking on which chart details.> > 4. There are

thousands of AA chart details for astrological research work in the

AstroDatabank 4.0 SW, now also available at-->

http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Main_Page> > Regards,> tw> > " AA ---

Accurate data as recorded by the family or state. This includes BC (birth

certificate), and BR (birth record), that which is not an official document but

a quote of the birth record from the Registrar or Bureau of Records, the

baptismal certificate, family Bible, or baby book. These data reflect the best

available accuracy. " > > > > , " VIJAYANAND

PATIL " wrote:> >> > For the celebrities, no authentic and correct tob and dob

will be made available to astrologers as to why no competitor will take

undueadvantage of the black holes ofthe horoscope. Yet, shri YSR is no more

thatswhy there is no harm in getting /giving correct time of birth as well as

date of birth for those who are related to Sri YSR or the family members of

YSR.> > Vijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision, Kolhapur> > +91 9422582853> >

> > On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 23:46:14 +0530 wrote> > > > > What

is the rectified TOB?> > > > , " murthyovn "

wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sri VSN ji> > > > > > As indicated by u I have verified

the chart of Dr. YS Rajasekhar Reddy ( chart was dicussed in the KPAF on

Sunday 13th Sept.2009).> > > Prest DBA is Ve-Ve-Ma, > > > Scorpio Asc. Venus as

l/o 7n12 in 9th cusp in Kethu star who is in Ascendant in Mercury star (Scorpio)

Mercury is l/o. 8n11 in 8th cusp. As Kethu is agent of Mercury/ in Mars house

who is l/o 1n6 in 9th cusp. > > > Then Mars who is l/o 1n6 in 9th cusp. > > >

All DBA planets are connected to 9th cusp bhadhaka. However when searched for

the link of 4th cusp then I could see 4th cuspal sublord is Venus who is in 9th

bhava indicates loss of 10th house.> > > Hence Sri VSN ji is very clear in his

mind in identifying the point very clearly.> > > > > > Regards> > > OVN Murthy>

> > > > > > > > > > > , " tw853 " wrote:> > > >>

> > > Dear Murthy ji and Friends,> > > > > > > > 1. 4th signification has been

found involved in fatal accidental death as can be found in the five cases

attached and two death cases Astrovision Sept 2009 (DEATHS OF TWO HUSBANDS).> >

> > /message/22979> > > >

/message/23122> > > >

/message/23129> > > > > > > > 2. Such

kind of unnatural/accidental death would happen ...> > > > in the joint period

of the significators of Maraka (2,7), Bdhaka, Moksha (12) and 4 (end of

everything, trigon 4,8,12), 6 (injury), 8 (accident) in the case of unnatural

death , and also 10 (retirement from this world) especially in the cases of

celebrities.> > > > -Astrovision Sept 2009 (DEATHS OF TWO HUSBANDS)> > > > > > >

> Regards,> > > > tw> > > > > > > > > > > > Chart 1, Y.S. Rajasekhara Reddy, 08

Jul 1949, 19:50 PM, Pulivendla, 14n25, 78e14, Asc Cp 08:49:28, NKPA 23:03:44,

Ketu Dasa bal 6y:2m;30d, 02 Sept 2009 (Ra-Ke-Ma-Me) death in helicopter crash

(KPAstro 3.1) > > > > Dasa lord Ra+(3), no planet in star of Ra which is sub

lord of 2,6,10, its sign lord is Ju(12,3-12); Ra is in star of Me(5,6-9); and in

sub of Sa(7,1-2).> > > > Bhukti lord Ke(9), aspected by Ju(12,3-12), its sign

lord is Me(5,6-9); in star of Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of Sa(7,1-2).> > > >

Anthara lord Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in own star Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of

Ju(12,3-12).> > > > Sookshma lord Me(5,6-9); in star Ma(5,4-11 Badhaka); in sub

of Ve+(7,5-10), no planet in star of Ve which is sub lord of 1,7.> > > > > > > >

Chart 2, Sanjay Gandhi, 14 Dec 1946, 09:27 AM, Delhi, 28n38, 77e17, Asc Cp

01:34:35, NKPA 23:01:35, Ketu Dasa bal 0y:4m:21d, 23 Jun 1980 (Mo-Me-Sa-Ve)

death in plane crash > > > > Mo(8,7)is in star of Ke(11 Badhaka), conj Su(11

Badhaka) & Me(10,6-9), its sign lord Ma+(11,4-11); and in sub of Me(10,6-9).> >

> > Me(10,6-9) is in star of Sa(7,1-2); in sub of Ve+(10,5-10).> > > > Sa(7,1-2)

is in own star Sa(7,1-2); in sub of Ju(10,3-12)> > > > Ve+(10,5-10) is in star

of Ju(10,3-12); in sub of Me(10,6-9).> > > > > > > > Chart 3, John F Kennedy Jr,

25 Nov 1960, 12:22 AM, TZ 5hWest, Washington, DC, 38n53, 77w02, Asc Le 18:44:36,

NKPA 23:13:16, Mars > > > >

http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Kennedy%2C_John_F._Jr.> > > > Dasa bal

1y:3m:16d, 16 Jul 1999 (Sa-Me-Me-Sa) death in private plane crash> > > >

Sa(5,6-7); in star of Ve(4,3,10); in own sub Sa(5,6-7).> > > > Me+(3,2-11), no

planet in star of Me which is sub lord of 3,9 Badhaka; in star & sub of

Ju(4,5-8).> > > > > > > > Chart 4, Rolim Amaro, 15 Sept 1942, 16:00 PM, TZ

3hWest, Pereria Barreto, Brazil, 20s38, 51w07, Asc Cp 28:12;01, NKPA 22:58:01,

Saturn Dasa bal 17y:10m:15d, 8 July 2001 (Ve-Me-Ve-Sa) death in helicopter

crash> > > > http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Amaro%2C_Rolim> > > >

Ve(7,5-10) is in own star & sub Ve(7,5-10).> > > > Me+(9,6-9), no planet in star

of Me which is sub lord of 2,8; in star of Ma(8,4-11 Badhaka); in sub of Ra(7),

conj Su(8,8) & Ve(7,5-10).> > > > Sa(4,1-2); in star of Mo(10,7); in sub of

Me+(9,6-9), no planet in star of Me which is sub lord of 2,8.> > > > > > > >

Chart 5, Jacques Thibaud, 27 Sept 1880, 18:00 PM LMT, 2m16secWest, Bordeaux,

France, 44n50, 00w34, Asc Pi 21:01:41, NKPA 22:06:08, Jupiter Dasa bal

7y:9m:10d, 1 Sept 1953 (Su-Ju-Ju-Ra) death in air crash> > > >

http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Thibaud%2C_Jacques> > > > Su+(6,6) is in

star of Mo(4,5); and in sub of Ra(9), aspected by Mo(4,5) & Ma(7 Badhaka,8-9),

its sign lord is Ju(1,1-10).> > > > Ju(1,1-10) is in star of Me(6,4-7 Badhaka);

and in sub of Ma(7 Badhaka,8-9).> > > > Ra(9), aspected by Mo(4,5) & Ma(7

Badhaka,8-9), its sign lord is Ju(1,1-10); Ra is in star of Ke(3), conj by

Mo(4,5) & Ma(7 Badhaka,8-9); and in sub of Sa+(1,11-12).> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , satyanarayana murthy wrote:>

> > > >> > > > > Respected Members of this group,> > > > > I request you one and

all to observe an important point mentioned below:-> > > > > Dr. YSR died in an

accident recently as CM of AP. His death resulted in loss of > > > > > Office

permanently. So this should be tallied as follows to the best of my knowledge> >

> > >  > > > > > 10th indicates Job/profession. > > > > > 4th house will be

maraka 7th for 10th.> > > > > So, the marakastanas/houses should be involved in

this type of cases also. > > > > > I request all the members those who are

having the natal chart of Dr.YSR.to> > > > > verify & check this and also

observe the transit also on that date and time of> > > > > accident occurred.> >

> > > I once again request all of you express your ideas on this matter so that

it will be > > > > > most beneficial to all. > > > > > With best regards,> > > >

> Yours faithfully, > > > > > VSN. Murthy.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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