QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

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Dear Rajivji

 

Agreed . Probably this was a bad experiment conceptually itself. When birth details are known why take it as a unknown person.

 

Thnks to all the learned members ( Adithji + Sureshji Awasthi for help )

 

Regards

Amit Soman

 

 

 

 

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 3:26:00 AMRe: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

dear amit

I do not know why are u going for horary and rest things

When a persons full details are availble we should do birth chart.

not try another method. unless and until someone asks for horary specially.

9th lord for unknow person is OK.. for horary u rotate is OK...but birth chart...u can check by changing the time about 5-10 minutes.. the same change only if confusing results.

otherwise NO...for changeing ...the time by one hours...One of astrologer asked too many question so come to his birth chart and times...he changed time by one hour and asked me many things. I must say do not waste ur energy on changing the time by one hour. or two hours..(when u can have confirmed time)

I must see ...when KSK applied own theory apart from tradtional vedic ...and it was recognised by many like us ...others ...why should not try some methodology to get correct answers...by any means by any road,,,by any theropy,,,,, therory

rest it is one's choice to debate on small small issues... giving KSK's reference in page no.

PEOPLE are good followers

so follow or find own way is in ur hand

best of luck

rajiv

 

 

 

 

Amit Soman <amitbs2002 >@gro ups.comWednesday, 23 September, 2009 3:07:30 AMRe: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

Hi

 

Some time ago i saw mail exchange on the group that one can use house 9 for a unknown person ( Mr. Sahhasra Saagara proposed it & some others backed it).

 

I have been trying this for a while but could not build a trend. Some time it works some time does not. The methodology i have been applying is as follows

 

Like this quiz

1) The person mentioned by Rajivji was unkown to me.

2) I thaught i want to workout a chart for this person.

3) I prepared 2 charts :

a) Time Chart

b) For a horary number by myself

4) For both a & b i rotated the chart to make the 9th house as Ascendent

5) After the answer from Rajivji i can say the conclusions for both of them were equally bad.

 

Can somebody who has been using this methodology ( 9th house for unkown person ) & is satisfied with the results let me know what steps to follow. I plan to try for some more time, before drawing my conclusions about the method.

 

Regards

Amit Soman

 

 

 

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya >@gro ups.comMonday, September 21, 2009 12:22:27 PMRe: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

Dear all astrologers

 

DHIRAJ MISRA had told many things correct

 

I am ending the anxiousness of all astrologers

 

This is a chart of astrologer ....by birth Poojari of one mandir in BEED. Nothing good in life till the moment.

He is just starving for living.

NO much income from astrologer as business.

current position No home No marraige (still unmarried) and whole family is problem . two unmarried sisters unmarried till 60s...and charctorless behaviour of many family members.

HE is eating on charity base everyday at somebody's home.

Just people blessing as he is bramhin by birth .

Literally NOT fully mad conditions. ( in cups..mercury and ketu in mars house.. mars saturn opposite to each other showing dearture from family..and oppose too. his jupitor in 5th house aspecting first house ....only..giving people's love...he is not called too mad.

only some of people donate him some money .. not a begger ...kind of living.

saturn dasha 80 to 99...saturn in 8th house in star of mercury did not gave money.

now.merury dasha...mercury in star of venus ..venus in 12th house.....again.

only good thing is like ....jup in 5th house ...gives some vachsidhi... ....his some of words and prediction come abosoultely true without looking at any chart and any face. when he talk abruptly he is saying so sudden comes true and people who are benefited from him take in car and drop anywhere he want to go.. venus 12th house..in cups...

I did not applied KP sub level to see this chart....as i found kundli for windows bhavchalit more perfect significator in his chart...vedic style helped me a lot...

i had asked him to move from his own house in mandir and some body from road is helping him now.

He is a good astrologer too...but fate not with him....I call this chart as a shapeet kundli ....shap of whom ? is not answered..

he is not hot headed ....not short tempered but he is eccentric...

He is good paniter....good drawings..ability ....which do not give money . unless u market it ..He is not good marketing person of himself..due to his NOT FULLY MAD ness.

mercury and ketu in bharani ....star.... .rashi of mars...not showing good sign.

Rest all i hope ....good death at least for him...without medicine and without hopsitalisation .till death.

I hope am hoping to give such more charts..which are "CLUMSY"

Which i like to give to all astrologers. .for study

but no one predicted he is starving for food and money

such charts helpto learn more.

thanx for ur support and conveying one's view in forum that too fast and early.

posting one more chart in 2-3 days.

rajiv

 

 

 

 

Amit Soman <amitbs2002 >@gro ups.com; bokaariya Monday, 21 September, 2009 8:32:30 PMRe: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

Rajivji

 

This guy must be millionaire & runs family business. He has grown his business a lot.

He has lot many businesses. He is very shrewed , hot headed & cunning, does not hesitate to do number 2 transactions & is politically well connected.

 

He has high education & has lived abroad for his higher education.

 

Regards

Amit Soman

 

 

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Dear Amit ji,With full confidence, I am using all rules, what Shri KSK ji has revealed and wrote in his books.And I have gained good results in all time I used them.For the caption, I give some reference to read.1.//Krisnamurti Paddhati - Take that House which represent the relationship. For father and for strangers take only the 9th house....// KP Reader 6, page 1602.

//4. The query may be for the Querist himself or for some relative or friend.

If the query is for himself make all calculations from Lagna. If it is for younger

Brother or Sister, take the 3rd house counted from the Lagna in the Horary

Chart as Ascendant and work out. If it relates to Mother, take the 4th as

Ascendant. For the Sons and Daughters of the Querist take 5th' for Wife or Partner

in business take 7th, for Father take 9th, for elder Brother or Sister, for

Friend etc., take 11th and for any unknown persons take 9th as Ascendant and

work out. //By: K.P.KUPPU GANAPATHI, TFAS,ASTROLOGER (K.P)GUIDELINES FOR PREPARING AND JUDGING A HOHARY CHART AS PER K.P. SYSTEM OR K.P.PRINCIPLES - Kp EZine Feb 2007- pages 19 - 24

 

 

RegrdsKalyanAmit Soman <amitbs2002 Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 3:07:30 AMRe: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

Hi

 

Some time ago i saw mail exchange on the group that one can use house 9 for a unknown person ( Mr. Sahhasra Saagara proposed it & some others backed it).

 

I have been trying this for a while but could not build a trend. Some time it works some time does not. The methodology i have been applying is as follows

 

Like this quiz

1) The person mentioned by Rajivji was unkown to me.

2) I thaught i want to workout a chart for this person.

3) I prepared 2 charts :

a) Time Chart

b) For a horary number by myself

4) For both a & b i rotated the chart to make the 9th house as Ascendent

5) After the answer from Rajivji i can say the conclusions for both of them were equally bad.

 

Can somebody who has been using this methodology ( 9th house for unkown person ) & is satisfied with the results let me know what steps to follow. I plan to try for some more time, before drawing my conclusions about the method.

 

Regards

Amit Soman

 

 

 

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya >@gro ups.comMonday, September 21, 2009 12:22:27 PMRe: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

Dear all astrologers

 

DHIRAJ MISRA had told many things correct

 

I am ending the anxiousness of all astrologers

 

This is a chart of astrologer ....by birth Poojari of one mandir in BEED. Nothing good in life till the moment.

He is just starving for living.

NO much income from astrologer as business.

current position No home No marraige (still unmarried) and whole family is problem . two unmarried sisters unmarried till 60s...and charctorless behaviour of many family members.

HE is eating on charity base everyday at somebody's home.

Just people blessing as he is bramhin by birth .

Literally NOT fully mad conditions. ( in cups..mercury and ketu in mars house.. mars saturn opposite to each other showing dearture from family..and oppose too. his jupitor in 5th house aspecting first house ....only..giving people's love...he is not called too mad.

only some of people donate him some money .. not a begger ...kind of living.

saturn dasha 80 to 99...saturn in 8th house in star of mercury did not gave money.

now.merury dasha...mercury in star of venus ..venus in 12th house.....again.

only good thing is like ....jup in 5th house ...gives some vachsidhi... ....his some of words and prediction come abosoultely true without looking at any chart and any face. when he talk abruptly he is saying so sudden comes true and people who are benefited from him take in car and drop anywhere he want to go.. venus 12th house..in cups...

I did not applied KP sub level to see this chart....as i found kundli for windows bhavchalit more perfect significator in his chart...vedic style helped me a lot...

i had asked him to move from his own house in mandir and some body from road is helping him now.

He is a good astrologer too...but fate not with him....I call this chart as a shapeet kundli ....shap of whom ? is not answered..

he is not hot headed ....not short tempered but he is eccentric...

He is good paniter....good drawings..ability ....which do not give money . unless u market it ..He is not good marketing person of himself..due to his NOT FULLY MAD ness.

mercury and ketu in bharani ....star.... .rashi of mars...not showing good sign.

Rest all i hope ....good death at least for him...without medicine and without hopsitalisation .till death.

I hope am hoping to give such more charts..which are "CLUMSY"

Which i like to give to all astrologers. .for study

but no one predicted he is starving for food and money

such charts helpto learn more.

thanx for ur support and conveying one's view in forum that too fast and early.

posting one more chart in 2-3 days.

rajiv

 

 

 

 

Amit Soman <amitbs2002 >@gro ups.com; bokaariya Monday, 21 September, 2009 8:32:30 PMRe: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

Rajivji

 

This guy must be millionaire & runs family business. He has grown his business a lot.

He has lot many businesses. He is very shrewed , hot headed & cunning, does not hesitate to do number 2 transactions & is politically well connected.

 

He has high education & has lived abroad for his higher education.

 

Regards

Amit Soman

 

 

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Dear Amit

Since 1986 I am rotating chart for unknown persons and i gaot accurate predictions with exact day of events.

I will send u 2 charts which i had with me for ur kind reference.

Thanks and Regards

Sahhasra Saagara

 

 

 

Amit Soman <amitbs2002 Sent: Wednesday, 23 September, 2009 3:07:30 AMRe: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

Hi

 

Some time ago i saw mail exchange on the group that one can use house 9 for a unknown person ( Mr. Sahhasra Saagara proposed it & some others backed it).

 

I have been trying this for a while but could not build a trend. Some time it works some time does not. The methodology i have been applying is as follows

 

Like this quiz

1) The person mentioned by Rajivji was unkown to me.

2) I thaught i want to workout a chart for this person.

3) I prepared 2 charts :

a) Time Chart

b) For a horary number by myself

4) For both a & b i rotated the chart to make the 9th house as Ascendent

5) After the answer from Rajivji i can say the conclusions for both of them were equally bad.

 

Can somebody who has been using this methodology ( 9th house for unkown person ) & is satisfied with the results let me know what steps to follow. I plan to try for some more time, before drawing my conclusions about the method.

 

Regards

Amit Soman

 

 

 

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya >@gro ups.comMonday, September 21, 2009 12:22:27 PMRe: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

Dear all astrologers

 

DHIRAJ MISRA had told many things correct

 

I am ending the anxiousness of all astrologers

 

This is a chart of astrologer ....by birth Poojari of one mandir in BEED. Nothing good in life till the moment.

He is just starving for living.

NO much income from astrologer as business.

current position No home No marraige (still unmarried) and whole family is problem . two unmarried sisters unmarried till 60s...and charctorless behaviour of many family members.

HE is eating on charity base everyday at somebody's home.

Just people blessing as he is bramhin by birth .

Literally NOT fully mad conditions. ( in cups..mercury and ketu in mars house.. mars saturn opposite to each other showing dearture from family..and oppose too. his jupitor in 5th house aspecting first house ....only..giving people's love...he is not called too mad.

only some of people donate him some money .. not a begger ...kind of living.

saturn dasha 80 to 99...saturn in 8th house in star of mercury did not gave money.

now.merury dasha...mercury in star of venus ..venus in 12th house......again.

only good thing is like ....jup in 5th house ...gives some vachsidhi... ....his some of words and prediction come abosoultely true without looking at any chart and any face. when he talk abruptly he is saying so sudden comes true and people who are benefited from him take in car and drop anywhere he want to go.. venus 12th house..in cups...

I did not applied KP sub level to see this chart....as i found kundli for windows bhavchalit more perfect significator in his chart...vedic style helped me a lot...

i had asked him to move from his own house in mandir and some body from road is helping him now.

He is a good astrologer too...but fate not with him....I call this chart as a shapeet kundli ....shap of whom ? is not answered..

he is not hot headed ....not short tempered but he is eccentric....

He is good paniter....good drawings..ability ....which do not give money . unless u market it ..He is not good marketing person of himself..due to his NOT FULLY MAD ness.

mercury and ketu in bharani ....star.... .rashi of mars...not showing good sign.

Rest all i hope ....good death at least for him...without medicine and without hopsitalisation .till death.

I hope am hoping to give such more charts..which are "CLUMSY"

Which i like to give to all astrologers. .for study

but no one predicted he is starving for food and money

such charts helpto learn more.

thanx for ur support and conveying one's view in forum that too fast and early.

posting one more chart in 2-3 days.

rajiv

 

 

 

 

Amit Soman <amitbs2002 >@gro ups.com; bokaariya Monday, 21 September, 2009 8:32:30 PMRe: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

Rajivji

 

This guy must be millionaire & runs family business. He has grown his business a lot.

He has lot many businesses. He is very shrewed , hot headed & cunning, does not hesitate to do number 2 transactions & is politically well connected.

 

He has high education & has lived abroad for his higher education.

 

Regards

Amit Soman

 

 

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Dear Rajiv ji/ Adith ji and Friends,

 

Contrary to what Adith ji has said, I believe that principles of KP are more useful in this case than the principles of traditional astrology. See the chart from traditional astrology perspective -

 

1. Lagna lord Sun is exalted

2. Moon is Vargottama aspected by Jupiter (for the people who are not from tradional astrology background, I would like to tell them that well placed Sun and Moon is very important condition for rajyoga, which seems to be there in this chart)

3. Moon is in kendra from Jupiter creating gaja-kesari yoga

4. Moon - Jupiter aspect is also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively

5. Venus - Sun also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively.

6. 9th lord Jupiter aspecting five planets from 5th kona.

 

Can one get better than this? So from the traditional astrology perspective, everything looks very good (at least at the surface level).

 

If we will see the chart from KP perspective, we can see that four planets are posited in 1st house negating 2nd, the house of finance. Jupiter is situated in 5th house being lord of 12th house and 9th house. Contrary to traditional astrology, KP astrology doesn't regard 5th house and 9th house any good from financial perspective. 9th house is negation of 10th house, house of profession. 5th house is 11th to 7th which generally is not good for finance and denotes losing to the competition. Saturn is in 8th hosue. Only two planets that are out 1, 5, 9, 12 are Mars and Moon. Unfortunately person did not get mahadasa of either Mars or Moon.

 

9th and 12th lord Jupiter in 5th in the Star of Sun in 1st is the most malefic planet in this chart. No wonder, Jupiter aspecting Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury and Ketu killing the whole chart.

 

This chart reminds us how dangerous can be kona - 1, 5, 9. In tradional astrology these are considered as laxmi sthana :-) and see the position of poor pujari.

 

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Dhirendra nath Ji,

 

Appreciated your few few predictions which came true!

 

As Rajiv ji said, such predictions on the general details are very well denoted only through the traditional Astrology . Kp is always good for the events forecast , timing of events which are difficult to ascertain with the other systems. If we have both the knowledge will be more useful for which we have to read lot and practice.

 

We can follow the good points about the importance of the strength of houses and planets, conjunctions, Aspects and many other points along with our KP whihc will definitely enrich our knowledge.

 

As I was not much confident with the knowledege in this subject, I did not participate.

 

But it sounds you have some exposure which is appreciated.

 

Regards

Adith

 

 

 

 

 

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajivji Sir,Thanks for guidance.In birth chart of this person there seems unstable source of earning.Sub lord of 10th cusp is retrograde Rahu and 10th and 11th lord Saturn is posited in 8th house.This also shows weak sign of stable earning.This person had tried many times to earn huge money by way of business but could not do so.He could not get any thing in legacy.source of earning had been writing and speaking.He should have earned money ,name,and fame during Saturn- Venus period during 16.02.1987 to 7.04.1990.His father should have died during 07.04.1990 to 21.03.1991.Again he should have earned money during 20.03.1991 to 19.10.1992.He had done religious work during 03.10.1996 to 17.04.1999 and again he had suffered a great loss from 17.04.1999 to 10.09.2002.He again earned money from 10.09.2002 to 10.07.2005 and from 10.07.2005 to 16.10.2007 he should have earned from writing books.From 16.10.2007 to 12.10.2008 during Mercury- Mars -he has been performing religious deeds and earning money.One of the brothers and sisters may have died during this period.On the whole at present he should be facing great hard ships.Submitted for your perusal and reply.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 --- On Sat, 9/19/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya wrote:

 

 

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya

Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 4:43 AM

 

 

 

 

dhirendraji

personality is not important..

What does this person do...u can say business income and behaviour earnings from ??

physically mentally financially ....comments

rajiv

 

 

 

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>@gro ups.com Friday, 18 September, 2009 10:41:31 PMRe: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajiv Ji,My opinion about this person is as following-This person is courageous,religiou s person,knowledgeabl e about time,interested in scientific and technical work,blessed with good brain & wealth.This person must have knowledge of astrology.blessed with beautiful spouse having big eyes.This person has tall height,pleasant big eyes,beautiful face,pronounced nose and wide fore head.This person may be Tantrik(having knowledge of talismans).Source of earning should be writing and speaking. This person must have many brothers.This person may suffer from acidity.Submitted for perusal.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 --- On Fri, 9/18/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > wrote:

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50@gro ups.com

Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:29 AM

 

 

 

COMMENT ON THIS PERSON AND PERSONALITY 

 

 

 

 

sudhir <taurus.sudhir@ gmail.com>@gro ups.com

Thursday, 17 September, 2009 8:53:24 PM Quiz 



Dear list

 

I am looking forward to somebody posting quiz like Rajiv ji.

 

Best regards

Sudhir

 

 

 

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Dear Punit ji,Thanks for your points. I do accept!I said through KP perspective with the Sublord of the respective cusps, no one (who participated) could not predict it. With this example, the Postmortem can be useful for our study. Or we have to practice a lot with our KP points yet.

You have given the points on the yogas. Some yogas can be seen in many poor people's chart as there are many yogas prevailing. Apart from these, there could be some other points of combinations, aspects etc, has to be seen.

 

Further as you said The Lagna Lord is not Sun. It is Mars which is posited in 3.Hope there are some confusions in the chart, as KSV Ramani ji has said, the Asc. lord Mars is posited in 6. and other points like Sat aspects to 9th and more. Hope the cahrt is different.!!? Or I am wrong?

Position of more planets in Asc inflict the Asc., depends on their strength, qualities. It is common for Tarditional and Kp.I never say the Tarditional is better.KP is always the best. But some traditional points may add value to our study. this is my point.

 

In this chart, the 10th CSL is Rahu is a strong signficator of 5,9,12 and 1(feebly 2,7) which are detrimental houses for the profession. The 2nd CSL is Venus is in its own star and sub and stongly signfies 1 and feebly 2 and 7. This 1 is against the monetary prospectus.The 6th CSL is also signfying 1,5,9,12 through stellar and sub level. This may show his unsteadyness in his career. The 1 and the 2, 7 signfications may show that his earning through by his own effort. The aboove points are signficating his state of unsteady in the profession and poor monetary gain.

 

With Regards

Adith

 

 

 On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:21 AM, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rajiv ji/ Adith ji and Friends,

 

Contrary to what Adith ji has said, I believe that principles of KP are more useful in this case than the principles of traditional astrology. See the chart from traditional astrology perspective -

 

1. Lagna lord Sun is exalted

2. Moon is Vargottama aspected by Jupiter (for the people who are not from tradional astrology background, I would like to tell them that well placed Sun and Moon is very important condition for rajyoga, which seems to be there in this chart)

3. Moon is in kendra from Jupiter creating gaja-kesari yoga

4. Moon - Jupiter aspect is also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively

5. Venus - Sun also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively.

6. 9th lord Jupiter aspecting five planets from 5th kona.

 

Can one get better than this? So from the traditional astrology perspective, everything looks very good (at least at the surface level).

 

If we will see the chart from KP perspective, we can see that four planets are posited in 1st house negating 2nd, the house of finance. Jupiter is situated in 5th house being lord of 12th house and 9th house. Contrary to traditional astrology, KP astrology doesn't regard 5th house and 9th house any good from financial perspective. 9th house is negation of 10th house, house of profession. 5th house is 11th to 7th which generally is not good for finance and denotes losing to the competition. Saturn is in 8th hosue. Only two planets that are out 1, 5, 9, 12 are Mars and Moon. Unfortunately person did not get mahadasa of either Mars or Moon.

 

9th and 12th lord Jupiter in 5th in the Star of Sun in 1st is the most malefic planet in this chart. No wonder, Jupiter aspecting Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury and Ketu killing the whole chart.

 

This chart reminds us how dangerous can be kona - 1, 5, 9. In tradional astrology these are considered as laxmi sthana :-) and see the position of poor pujari.

 

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

 

 

 

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Dhirendra nath Ji,

 

Appreciated your few few predictions which came true!

 

As Rajiv ji said, such predictions on the general details are very well denoted only through the traditional Astrology . Kp is always good for the events forecast , timing of events which are difficult to ascertain with the other systems. If we have both the knowledge will be more useful for which we have to read lot and practice.

 

We can follow the good points about the importance of the strength of houses and planets, conjunctions, Aspects and many other points along with our KP whihc will definitely enrich our knowledge.

 

As I was not much confident with the knowledege in this subject, I did not participate.

 

But it sounds you have some exposure which is appreciated.

 

Regards

Adith

 

 

 

 

 

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajivji Sir,Thanks for guidance.In birth chart of this person there seems unstable source of earning.Sub lord of 10th cusp is retrograde Rahu and 10th and 11th lord Saturn is posited in 8th house.This also shows weak sign of stable earning.This person had tried many times to earn huge money by way of business but could not do so.He could not get any thing in legacy.source of earning had been writing and speaking.He should have earned money ,name,and fame during Saturn- Venus period during 16.02.1987 to 7.04.1990.His father should have died during 07.04.1990 to 21.03.1991.Again he should have earned money during 20.03.1991 to 19.10.1992.He had done religious work during 03.10.1996 to 17.04.1999 and again he had suffered a great loss from 17.04.1999 to 10.09.2002.He again earned money from 10.09.2002 to 10.07.2005 and from 10.07.2005 to 16.10.2007 he should have earned from writing books.From 16.10.2007 to 12.10.2008 during Mercury- Mars -he has been performing religious deeds and earning money.One of the brothers and sisters may have died during this period.On the whole at present he should be facing great hard ships.Submitted for your perusal and reply.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 --- On Sat, 9/19/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya wrote:

 

 

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya

Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 4:43 AM

 

 

 

 

dhirendraji

personality is not important..

What does this person do...u can say business income and behaviour earnings from ??

physically mentally financially ....comments

rajiv

 

 

 

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>@gro ups.com Friday, 18 September, 2009 10:41:31 PMRe: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajiv Ji,My opinion about this person is as following-This person is courageous,religiou s person,knowledgeabl e about time,interested in scientific and technical work,blessed with good brain & wealth.This person must have knowledge of astrology.blessed with beautiful spouse having big eyes.This person has tall height,pleasant big eyes,beautiful face,pronounced nose and wide fore head.This person may be Tantrik(having knowledge of talismans).Source of earning should be writing and speaking. This person must have many brothers.This person may suffer from acidity.Submitted for perusal.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 --- On Fri, 9/18/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > wrote:

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50@gro ups.com

Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:29 AM

 

 

 

COMMENT ON THIS PERSON AND PERSONALITY 

 

 

 

 

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Thursday, 17 September, 2009 8:53:24 PM Quiz 



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dear punit Pandey ji Thanks for talking in traditional astrological terms Sure at one Look the chart is promising without deeply delving into it .But knowledge of very basics has to b employed with unfolding dasa s to see the promise in chart see the parivrjya yoga ( so many planets in one house -4 or more planets in House will result a sort of sanyasa type of yoga and here it is

happening in lagna itself and lagna represent the person himself ) in lagna ,and dainya parivarthana between Lagna Lord and 3rd L and daridra yoga happening in lagna ( lagna and lagna Lord affcted along marakesh and dhanesh ) along with duryoga ( karmesha and labhesa in dustanas ) and Born in Morning sandhya ( junction between day and nite ) along with dasa s u can work a gr8 deal abt the chart Also being a Nite birth ( as he born within a ghati b4 sunrise and day strt with suryodaya according to Hindu astrology ) the gulika also happening in 7th House and along with rahu ,also in nite births chandra balam is important factor in supporting Horoscopes and Born in krishna paksha even to fruitify the gajakesari in material level the retrogresion of Jup and lack of plaksha bala of moon etc r hindrance ( also jup shud

own good houses ) and jup shud not b afflicted is another critiria ( here Nodes and sani afflicting jup ) Pls Note any good yoga to work the status of the planets and afflictions etc is important and it wil giv a strong decrese in the strnght of the yoga and its other side aspects wil b pronounced ( like spiritual ) .Then see the dasa s ,he born in rahu-ketu ( birth dasa will b a pointer as it denotes the karma phala this soul may exprence ) and then got some what good jupiter dasa and after age of 24 he got saturn dasa for 19 yrs and where in prime period life he got best dasa ??also sun is not having any support ( refer suryadi yogas,even according to nadies sun first sees venus ,then merc and then ketu ) who is giver of raja yogas in a chart than moon ( moon is mother and she can take care a person

when sun is giving results ) rgrds sunil nair PS-I know this is not a traditional astrology forum and some memebrs has deep aversion against traditional astrology ,so any attacking kind of mails will prevent me frm further answering / discussing .--- On Fri, 25/9/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:Punit Pandey <punitpRe: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50 Date: Friday, 25 September, 2009, 12:21 AM

 

 

Dear Rajiv ji/ Adith ji and Friends,

 

Contrary to what Adith ji has said, I believe that principles of KP are more useful in this case than the principles of traditional astrology. See the chart from traditional astrology perspective -

 

1. Lagna lord Sun is exalted

2. Moon is Vargottama aspected by Jupiter (for the people who are not from tradional astrology background, I would like to tell them that well placed Sun and Moon is very important condition for rajyoga, which seems to be there in this chart)

3. Moon is in kendra from Jupiter creating gaja-kesari yoga

4. Moon - Jupiter aspect is also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively

5. Venus - Sun also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively.

6. 9th lord Jupiter aspecting five planets from 5th kona.

 

Can one get better than this? So from the traditional astrology perspective, everything looks very good (at least at the surface level).

 

If we will see the chart from KP perspective, we can see that four planets are posited in 1st house negating 2nd, the house of finance. Jupiter is situated in 5th house being lord of 12th house and 9th house. Contrary to traditional astrology, KP astrology doesn't regard 5th house and 9th house any good from financial perspective. 9th house is negation of 10th house, house of profession. 5th house is 11th to 7th which generally is not good for finance and denotes losing to the competition. Saturn is in 8th hosue.. Only two planets that are out 1, 5, 9, 12 are Mars and Moon. Unfortunately person did not get mahadasa of either Mars or Moon.

 

9th and 12th lord Jupiter in 5th in the Star of Sun in 1st is the most malefic planet in this chart. No wonder, Jupiter aspecting Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury and Ketu killing the whole chart.

 

This chart reminds us how dangerous can be kona - 1, 5, 9. In tradional astrology these are considered as laxmi sthana :-) and see the position of poor pujari.

 

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear Dhirendra nath Ji,

 

Appreciated your few few predictions which came true!

 

As Rajiv ji said, such predictions on the general details are very well denoted only through the traditional Astrology . Kp is always good for the events forecast , timing of events which are difficult to ascertain with the other systems. If we have both the knowledge will be more useful for which we have to read lot and practice.

 

We can follow the good points about the importance of the strength of houses and planets, conjunctions, Aspects and many other points along with our KP whihc will definitely enrich our knowledge.

 

As I was not much confident with the knowledege in this subject, I did not participate.

 

But it sounds you have some exposure which is appreciated.

 

Regards

Adith

 

 

 

 

 

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajivji Sir,Thanks for guidance.In birth chart of this person there seems unstable source of earning.Sub lord of 10th cusp is retrograde Rahu and 10th and 11th lord Saturn is posited in 8th house.This also shows weak sign of stable earning.This person had tried many times to earn huge money by way of business but could not do so.He could not get any thing in legacy.source of earning had been writing and speaking.He should have earned money ,name,and fame during Saturn- Venus period during 16.02.1987 to 7.04.1990.His father should have died during 07.04.1990 to 21.03.1991.Again he should have earned money during 20.03.1991 to 19.10.1992.He had done religious work during 03.10.1996 to 17.04.1999 and again he had suffered a great loss from 17.04.1999 to 10.09.2002.He again earned money from 10.09.2002 to 10.07.2005 and from 10.07.2005 to 16.10.2007 he should have earned from writing books.From 16.10.2007 to

12.10.2008 during Mercury- Mars -he has been performing religious deeds and earning money.One of the brothers and sisters may have died during this period.On the whole at present he should be facing great hard ships.Submitted for your perusal and reply.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

--- On Sat, 9/19/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > wrote:

 

 

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya >

Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

@gro ups.comSaturday, September 19, 2009, 4:43 AM

 

 

 

dhirendraji

personality is not important..

What does this person do...u can say business income and behaviour earnings from ??

physically mentally financially ....comments

rajiv

 

 

 

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>@gro ups.com Friday, 18 September, 2009 10:41:31 PMRe: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajiv Ji,My opinion about this person is as following-This person is courageous,religiou s person,knowledgeabl e about time,interested in scientific and technical work,blessed with good brain & wealth.This person must have knowledge of astrology.blessed with beautiful spouse having big eyes.This person has tall height,pleasant big eyes,beautiful face,pronounced nose and wide fore head.This person may be Tantrik(having knowledge of talismans).Source of earning should be writing and speaking. This person must have many brothers.This person may suffer from acidity.Submitted for perusal.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

--- On Fri, 9/18/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > wrote:

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50@gro ups.com

Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:29 AM

 

 

COMMENT ON THIS PERSON AND PERSONALITY

 

 

 

 

sudhir <taurus.sudhir@ gmail.com>@gro ups.com

Thursday, 17 September, 2009 8:53:24 PM Quiz



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Dear Shri Punitji,

 

Excellent analysis thro’ K.P.System giving

accurate results of events in contrast to the traditional system. General

impression of 1,5,9 Trine Bhavas, being treated as great benefic Bhavas, how it

turns to be worst

In KP system is an eye opener for one and

all.  Congrats for your views.

Thanking you,

 

Truly yours,

 

K.S.V.Ramani,

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Punit Pandey

25 September 2009 00:21

 

Re: QUIZ

(NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rajiv ji/ Adith ji and Friends,

 

 

 

 

 

Contrary to what Adith ji has said, I believe that principles of KP are

more useful in this case than the principles of traditional astrology. See the

chart from traditional astrology perspective -

 

 

 

 

 

1. Lagna lord Sun is exalted

 

 

2. Moon is Vargottama aspected by Jupiter (for the people who are not

from tradional astrology background, I would like to tell them that well placed

Sun and Moon is very important condition for rajyoga, which seems to be there

in this chart)

 

 

3. Moon is in kendra from Jupiter creating gaja-kesari yoga

 

 

4. Moon - Jupiter aspect is also creating rajyoga by being kendra and

kona lord respectively

 

 

5. Venus - Sun also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord

respectively.

 

 

6. 9th lord Jupiter aspecting five planets from 5th kona.

 

 

 

 

 

Can one get better than this? So from the traditional astrology

perspective, everything looks very good (at least at the surface level).

 

 

 

 

 

If we will see the chart from KP perspective, we can see that four

planets are posited in 1st house negating 2nd, the house of finance. Jupiter is

situated in 5th house being lord of 12th house and 9th house. Contrary to

traditional astrology, KP astrology doesn't regard 5th house and 9th house any

good from financial perspective. 9th house is negation of 10th house, house of

profession. 5th house is 11th to 7th which generally is not good for finance

and denotes losing to the competition. Saturn is in 8th hosue. Only two planets

that are out 1, 5, 9, 12 are Mars and Moon. Unfortunately person did not get

mahadasa of either Mars or Moon.

 

 

 

 

 

9th and 12th lord Jupiter in 5th in the Star of Sun in 1st is the

most malefic planet in this chart. No wonder, Jupiter aspecting Sun, Moon,

Mars, Mercury and Ketu killing the whole chart.

 

 

 

 

 

This chart reminds us how dangerous can be kona - 1, 5, 9. In tradional

astrology these are considered as laxmi sthana :-) and see the position of poor

pujari.

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks & Regards,

 

Punit Pandey

 

 

 

 

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath >

wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Dhirendra nath Ji,

 

 

 

 

 

Appreciated your few few predictions which came true!

 

 

 

 

 

As Rajiv ji said, such predictions on the general

details are very well denoted only through the traditional Astrology . Kp

is always good for the events forecast , timing of events which are

difficult to ascertain with the other systems. If we have both the

knowledge will be more useful for which we have to read lot and practice.

 

 

 

 

 

We can follow the good points about the importance of

the strength of houses and planets, conjunctions, Aspects and many other points

along with our KP whihc will definitely enrich our knowledge.

 

 

 

 

 

As I was not much confident with the knowledege in

this subject, I did not participate.

 

 

 

 

 

But it sounds you have some exposure which is

appreciated.

 

 

 

 

 

Regards

 

 

Adith

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra (AT) ymail (DOT) com>

wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajivji Sir,Thanks

for guidance.In birth chart of this person there seems unstable source of

earning.Sub lord of 10th cusp is retrograde Rahu and 10th and 11th lord

Saturn is posited in 8th house.This also shows weak sign of stable

earning.This person had tried many times to earn huge money by way of

business but could not do so.He could not get any thing in legacy.source of

earning had been writing and speaking.He should have earned money ,name,and

fame during Saturn- Venus period during 16.02.1987 to 7.04.1990.His father

should have died during 07.04.1990 to 21.03.1991.Again he should have earned

money during 20.03.1991 to 19.10.1992.He had done religious work during

03.10.1996 to 17.04.1999 and again he had suffered a great loss from

17.04.1999 to 10.09.2002.He again earned money from 10.09.2002 to 10.07.2005

and from 10.07.2005 to 16.10.2007 he should have earned from writing

books.From 16.10.2007 to 12.10.2008 during Mercury- Mars -he has been

performing religious deeds and earning money.One of the brothers and sisters

may have died during this period.On the whole at present he should be facing

great hard ships.Submitted for your perusal and reply.With regards,

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Sat, 9/19/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > wrote:

 

 

 

 

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya >

 

 

Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957

6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

 

 

Saturday,

September 19, 2009, 4:43 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

dhirendraji

 

 

personality is not important..

 

 

What does this person do...u can say business income

and behaviour earnings from ??

 

 

physically mentally financially ....comments

 

 

rajiv

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dhirendra Nath

Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>

 

To:

@gro ups.com

 

 

Friday, 18 September, 2009

10:41:31 PM

Re: QUIZ

(NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajiv Ji,My

opinion about this person is as following-This person is

courageous,religiou s person,knowledgeabl e about time,interested in

scientific and technical work,blessed with good brain & wealth.This

person must have knowledge of astrology.blessed with beautiful spouse

having big eyes.This person has tall height,pleasant big eyes,beautiful

face,pronounced nose and wide fore head.This person may be Tantrik(having

knowledge of talismans).Source of earning should be writing and

speaking. This person must have many brothers.This person may suffer

from acidity.Submitted for perusal.With regards,

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Fri, 9/18/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya >

wrote:

 

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya >

QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

@gro ups.com

Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:29 AM

 

 

 

 

 

COMMENT ON THIS PERSON AND PERSONALITY

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

sudhir

<taurus.sudhir@ gmail.com>

@gro ups.com

Thursday, 17 September,

2009 8:53:24 PM

Quiz

 

 

 



 

 

Dear list

 

 

 

 

 

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ji.

 

 

 

 

 

Best regards

 

 

Sudhir

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Friends,

 

Just a quick correction, Sun is not lagna lord but occupant of the lagna. It seems that I had written my email in ardhachetanavastha last night - probably feeling sleepy. As correctly pointed out by Adith ji, Mars is the lagna lord. Rest of the points mentioned remains same.

 

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 10:23 AM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Punit ji,Thanks for your points. I do accept!I said through KP perspective with the Sublord of the respective cusps, no one (who participated) could not predict it. With this example, the Postmortem can be useful for our study. Or we have to practice a lot with our KP points yet.

You have given the points on the yogas. Some yogas can be seen in many poor people's chart as there are many yogas prevailing. Apart from these, there could be some other points of combinations, aspects etc, has to be seen.

 

Further as you said The Lagna Lord is not Sun. It is Mars which is posited in 3.Hope there are some confusions in the chart, as KSV Ramani ji has said, the Asc. lord Mars is posited in 6. and other points like Sat aspects to 9th and more. Hope the cahrt is different.!!? Or I am wrong?

Position of more planets in Asc inflict the Asc., depends on their strength, qualities. It is common for Tarditional and Kp.I never say the Tarditional is better.KP is always the best. But some traditional points may add value to our study. this is my point.

 

In this chart, the 10th CSL is Rahu is a strong signficator of 5,9,12 and 1(feebly 2,7) which are detrimental houses for the profession. The 2nd CSL is Venus is in its own star and sub and stongly signfies 1 and feebly 2 and 7. This 1 is against the monetary prospectus.The 6th CSL is also signfying 1,5,9,12 through stellar and sub level. This may show his unsteadyness in his career. The 1 and the 2, 7 signfications may show that his earning through by his own effort. The aboove points are signficating his state of unsteady in the profession and poor monetary gain.

 

With Regards

Adith

 

 

 

 

 

 On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:21 AM, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rajiv ji/ Adith ji and Friends,

 

Contrary to what Adith ji has said, I believe that principles of KP are more useful in this case than the principles of traditional astrology. See the chart from traditional astrology perspective -

 

1. Lagna lord Sun is exalted

2. Moon is Vargottama aspected by Jupiter (for the people who are not from tradional astrology background, I would like to tell them that well placed Sun and Moon is very important condition for rajyoga, which seems to be there in this chart)

3. Moon is in kendra from Jupiter creating gaja-kesari yoga

4. Moon - Jupiter aspect is also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively

5. Venus - Sun also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively.

6. 9th lord Jupiter aspecting five planets from 5th kona.

 

Can one get better than this? So from the traditional astrology perspective, everything looks very good (at least at the surface level).

 

If we will see the chart from KP perspective, we can see that four planets are posited in 1st house negating 2nd, the house of finance. Jupiter is situated in 5th house being lord of 12th house and 9th house. Contrary to traditional astrology, KP astrology doesn't regard 5th house and 9th house any good from financial perspective. 9th house is negation of 10th house, house of profession. 5th house is 11th to 7th which generally is not good for finance and denotes losing to the competition. Saturn is in 8th hosue. Only two planets that are out 1, 5, 9, 12 are Mars and Moon. Unfortunately person did not get mahadasa of either Mars or Moon.

 

9th and 12th lord Jupiter in 5th in the Star of Sun in 1st is the most malefic planet in this chart. No wonder, Jupiter aspecting Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury and Ketu killing the whole chart.

 

This chart reminds us how dangerous can be kona - 1, 5, 9. In tradional astrology these are considered as laxmi sthana :-) and see the position of poor pujari.

 

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

 

 

 

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Dhirendra nath Ji,

 

Appreciated your few few predictions which came true!

 

As Rajiv ji said, such predictions on the general details are very well denoted only through the traditional Astrology . Kp is always good for the events forecast , timing of events which are difficult to ascertain with the other systems. If we have both the knowledge will be more useful for which we have to read lot and practice.

 

We can follow the good points about the importance of the strength of houses and planets, conjunctions, Aspects and many other points along with our KP whihc will definitely enrich our knowledge.

 

As I was not much confident with the knowledege in this subject, I did not participate.

 

But it sounds you have some exposure which is appreciated.

 

Regards

Adith

 

 

 

 

 

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajivji Sir,Thanks for guidance.In birth chart of this person there seems unstable source of earning.Sub lord of 10th cusp is retrograde Rahu and 10th and 11th lord Saturn is posited in 8th house.This also shows weak sign of stable earning.This person had tried many times to earn huge money by way of business but could not do so.He could not get any thing in legacy.source of earning had been writing and speaking.He should have earned money ,name,and fame during Saturn- Venus period during 16.02.1987 to 7.04.1990.His father should have died during 07.04.1990 to 21.03.1991.Again he should have earned money during 20.03.1991 to 19.10.1992.He had done religious work during 03.10.1996 to 17.04.1999 and again he had suffered a great loss from 17.04.1999 to 10.09.2002.He again earned money from 10.09.2002 to 10.07.2005 and from 10.07.2005 to 16.10.2007 he should have earned from writing books.From 16.10.2007 to 12.10.2008 during Mercury- Mars -he has been performing religious deeds and earning money.One of the brothers and sisters may have died during this period.On the whole at present he should be facing great hard ships.Submitted for your perusal and reply.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 --- On Sat, 9/19/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya wrote:

 

 

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya

Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 4:43 AM

 

 

 

 

dhirendraji

personality is not important..

What does this person do...u can say business income and behaviour earnings from ??

physically mentally financially ....comments

rajiv

 

 

 

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>@gro ups.com Friday, 18 September, 2009 10:41:31 PMRe: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajiv Ji,My opinion about this person is as following-This person is courageous,religiou s person,knowledgeabl e about time,interested in scientific and technical work,blessed with good brain & wealth.This person must have knowledge of astrology.blessed with beautiful spouse having big eyes.This person has tall height,pleasant big eyes,beautiful face,pronounced nose and wide fore head.This person may be Tantrik(having knowledge of talismans).Source of earning should be writing and speaking. This person must have many brothers.This person may suffer from acidity.Submitted for perusal.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 --- On Fri, 9/18/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > wrote:

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50@gro ups.com

Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:29 AM

 

 

 

COMMENT ON THIS PERSON AND PERSONALITY 

 

 

 

 

sudhir <taurus.sudhir@ gmail.com>@gro ups.com

Thursday, 17 September, 2009 8:53:24 PM Quiz 



Dear list

 

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Dear Sunil ji,

 

I agree with the points you have mentioned and that is the reason I mentioned " at least at the surface level. " in the email. There are some other good and bad traditional yogas that we didn't talk, but that was not the purpose of my email.

 

The reason I had written my email to highlight clear and simple approach in KP and more importantly the role of 1st, 5th and 9th house in KP. Application of this houses is slightly different than traditional astrology and I wanted to highlight that.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear punit Pandey ji

Thanks for talking in traditional astrological terms Sure at one Look the chart is promising without deeply delving into it .But knowledge of very basics has to b employed with unfolding  dasa s to see the promise in chart

 see the parivrjya yoga ( so many planets in one house -4 or more planets in House will result a sort of sanyasa type of yoga and here it is happening in lagna itself and lagna represent the person himself ) in lagna ,and dainya parivarthana between Lagna Lord and 3rd L and daridra yoga happening in lagna ( lagna and lagna Lord affcted along marakesh and dhanesh ) along with duryoga ( karmesha and labhesa in dustanas ) and Born in Morning sandhya ( junction between day and nite )  along with dasa s u can work a gr8 deal abt the chart

Also being a Nite birth ( as he born within a ghati b4 sunrise and day strt with suryodaya according to Hindu astrology  ) the gulika also happening in 7th House and along with rahu ,also in nite births chandra balam is important factor in supporting Horoscopes and Born in  krishna paksha

even to fruitify the gajakesari in material level the retrogresion of Jup and lack of plaksha bala of moon etc r hindrance ( also jup shud own good houses ) and jup shud not b afflicted is another critiria ( here Nodes and sani afflicting jup )

Pls Note any good yoga to work the status of the planets and afflictions etc is important and it  wil giv a strong decrese in the strnght of the yoga and its other side aspects wil b pronounced ( like spiritual )  .

Then  see the dasa s ,he born in rahu-ketu ( birth dasa will b a pointer as it denotes the karma phala this soul may exprence ) and then got some what good jupiter dasa and after age of 24 he got saturn dasa for 19 yrs and where in prime period life he got best dasa ??

also sun is not having any support ( refer suryadi yogas,even according to nadies sun first sees venus ,then merc and then ketu  ) who is giver of raja yogas in a chart than moon ( moon is mother and she can take care a person when sun is giving results )

rgrds sunil nair PS-I know this is not a traditional astrology forum and some memebrs has deep aversion against  traditional astrology ,so any attacking kind of mails will prevent me frm further answering / discussing .

--- On Fri, 25/9/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50 Date: Friday, 25 September, 2009, 12:21 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rajiv ji/ Adith ji and Friends,

 

Contrary to what Adith ji has said, I believe that principles of KP are more useful in this case than the principles of traditional astrology. See the chart from traditional astrology perspective -

 

1. Lagna lord Sun is exalted

2. Moon is Vargottama aspected by Jupiter (for the people who are not from tradional astrology background, I would like to tell them that well placed Sun and Moon is very important condition for rajyoga, which seems to be there in this chart)

3. Moon is in kendra from Jupiter creating gaja-kesari yoga

4. Moon - Jupiter aspect is also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively

5. Venus - Sun also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively.

6. 9th lord Jupiter aspecting five planets from 5th kona.

 

Can one get better than this? So from the traditional astrology perspective, everything looks very good (at least at the surface level).

 

If we will see the chart from KP perspective, we can see that four planets are posited in 1st house negating 2nd, the house of finance. Jupiter is situated in 5th house being lord of 12th house and 9th house. Contrary to traditional astrology, KP astrology doesn't regard 5th house and 9th house any good from financial perspective. 9th house is negation of 10th house, house of profession. 5th house is 11th to 7th which generally is not good for finance and denotes losing to the competition. Saturn is in 8th hosue.. Only two planets that are out 1, 5, 9, 12 are Mars and Moon. Unfortunately person did not get mahadasa of either Mars or Moon.

 

9th and 12th lord Jupiter in 5th in the Star of Sun in 1st is the most malefic planet in this chart. No wonder, Jupiter aspecting Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury and Ketu killing the whole chart.

 

This chart reminds us how dangerous can be kona - 1, 5, 9. In tradional astrology these are considered as laxmi sthana :-) and see the position of poor pujari.

 

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

 

 

 

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Dhirendra nath Ji,

 

Appreciated your few few predictions which came true!

 

As Rajiv ji said, such predictions on the general details are very well denoted only through the traditional Astrology . Kp is always good for the events forecast , timing of events which are difficult to ascertain with the other systems. If we have both the knowledge will be more useful for which we have to read lot and practice.

 

We can follow the good points about the importance of the strength of houses and planets, conjunctions, Aspects and many other points along with our KP whihc will definitely enrich our knowledge.

 

As I was not much confident with the knowledege in this subject, I did not participate.

 

But it sounds you have some exposure which is appreciated.

 

Regards

Adith

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajivji Sir,Thanks for guidance.In birth chart of this person there seems unstable source of earning.Sub lord of 10th cusp is retrograde Rahu and 10th and 11th lord Saturn is posited in 8th house.This also shows weak sign of stable earning.This person had tried many times to earn huge money by way of business but could not do so.He could not get any thing in legacy.source of earning had been writing and speaking.He should have earned money ,name,and fame during Saturn- Venus period during 16.02.1987 to 7.04.1990.His father should have died during 07.04.1990 to 21.03.1991.Again he should have earned money during 20.03.1991 to 19.10.1992.He had done religious work during 03.10.1996 to 17.04.1999 and again he had suffered a great loss from 17.04.1999 to 10.09.2002.He again earned money from 10.09.2002 to 10.07.2005 and from 10.07.2005 to 16.10.2007 he should have earned from writing books.From 16.10.2007 to 12.10.2008 during Mercury- Mars -he has been performing religious deeds and earning money.One of the brothers and sisters may have died during this period.On the whole at present he should be facing great hard ships.Submitted for your perusal and reply.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 --- On Sat, 9/19/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya >

Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

@gro ups.com

 

 

Saturday, September 19, 2009, 4:43 AM

 

 

 

 

dhirendraji

personality is not important..

What does this person do...u can say business income and behaviour earnings from ??

physically mentally financially ....comments

rajiv

 

 

 

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>@gro ups.com Friday, 18 September, 2009 10:41:31 PMRe: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajiv Ji,My opinion about this person is as following-This person is courageous,religiou s person,knowledgeabl e about time,interested in scientific and technical work,blessed with good brain & wealth.This person must have knowledge of astrology.blessed with beautiful spouse having big eyes.This person has tall height,pleasant big eyes,beautiful face,pronounced nose and wide fore head.This person may be Tantrik(having knowledge of talismans).Source of earning should be writing and speaking. This person must have many brothers.This person may suffer from acidity.Submitted for perusal.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 --- On Fri, 9/18/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > wrote:

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Thursday, 17 September, 2009 8:53:24 PM Quiz 



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dear punitji and all learned memberssince we had learned tadtional astrology and kp both .IN traditional bhavchalit kundli is as good as cups in KP style punitji had clearly pointed the problems in chart.In traditional..i am in opinion of astrologer must check all three charts...four also...moon ,lagna , chalit and bhavchalit... by asking one two simple question to jatak we can know which chart is working on jatak..and predict the truth.we must correct results by both methods..in tradtional bhavchalit 9as per kundli for windows) .mars going to 2nd house of chart and 2nd lord going to 12th house of chart with sun ...mercury and ketu in first house in mesh rashi ...(that f mars gives slight

crackness or vimsicial nature. mars saturn opp to each other from 2nd and 8th house .. only moon in 11th house and jupitor in 5th house saving the jatak.rest all planets are opposite MY only points is to get correct results from all methods and ways of astrology ...which ever u try rajivPunit Pandey <punitp Sent: Friday, 25 September, 2009 11:24:25 AMRe:

QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

Dear Friends,

 

Just a quick correction, Sun is not lagna lord but occupant of the lagna. It seems that I had written my email in ardhachetanavastha last night - probably feeling sleepy. As correctly pointed out by Adith ji, Mars is the lagna lord. Rest of the points mentioned remains same.

 

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 10:23 AM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear Punit ji,Thanks for your points. I do accept!I said through KP perspective with the Sublord of the respective cusps, no one (who participated) could not predict it. With this example, the Postmortem can be useful for our study. Or we have to practice a lot with our KP points yet.

You have given the points on the yogas. Some yogas can be seen in many poor people's chart as there are many yogas prevailing. Apart from these, there could be some other points of combinations, aspects etc, has to be seen.

 

Further as you said The Lagna Lord is not Sun. It is Mars which is posited in 3.Hope there are some confusions in the chart, as KSV Ramani ji has said, the Asc. lord Mars is posited in 6. and other points like Sat aspects to 9th and more. Hope the cahrt is different.!! ? Or I am wrong?

Position of more planets in Asc inflict the Asc., depends on their strength, qualities. It is common for Tarditional and Kp.I never say the Tarditional is better.KP is always the best. But some traditional points may add value to our study. this is my point.

 

In this chart, the 10th CSL is Rahu is a strong signficator of 5,9,12 and 1(feebly 2,7) which are detrimental houses for the profession. The 2nd CSL is Venus is in its own star and sub and stongly signfies 1 and feebly 2 and 7. This 1 is against the monetary prospectus.The 6th CSL is also signfying 1,5,9,12 through stellar and sub level. This may show his unsteadyness in his career. The 1 and the 2, 7 signfications may show that his earning through by his own effort. The aboove points are signficating his state of unsteady in the profession and poor monetary gain.

 

With Regards

Adith

 

 

 

 

 

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:21 AM, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear Rajiv ji/ Adith ji and Friends,

 

Contrary to what Adith ji has said, I believe that principles of KP are more useful in this case than the principles of traditional astrology. See the chart from traditional astrology perspective -

 

1. Lagna lord Sun is exalted

2. Moon is Vargottama aspected by Jupiter (for the people who are not from tradional astrology background, I would like to tell them that well placed Sun and Moon is very important condition for rajyoga, which seems to be there in this chart)

3. Moon is in kendra from Jupiter creating gaja-kesari yoga

4. Moon - Jupiter aspect is also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively

5. Venus - Sun also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively.

6. 9th lord Jupiter aspecting five planets from 5th kona.

 

Can one get better than this? So from the traditional astrology perspective, everything looks very good (at least at the surface level).

 

If we will see the chart from KP perspective, we can see that four planets are posited in 1st house negating 2nd, the house of finance. Jupiter is situated in 5th house being lord of 12th house and 9th house. Contrary to traditional astrology, KP astrology doesn't regard 5th house and 9th house any good from financial perspective. 9th house is negation of 10th house, house of profession. 5th house is 11th to 7th which generally is not good for finance and denotes losing to the competition. Saturn is in 8th hosue. Only two planets that are out 1, 5, 9, 12 are Mars and Moon. Unfortunately person did not get mahadasa of either Mars or Moon.

 

9th and 12th lord Jupiter in 5th in the Star of Sun in 1st is the most malefic planet in this chart. No wonder, Jupiter aspecting Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury and Ketu killing the whole chart.

 

This chart reminds us how dangerous can be kona - 1, 5, 9. In tradional astrology these are considered as laxmi sthana :-) and see the position of poor pujari.

 

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

 

 

 

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear Dhirendra nath Ji,

 

Appreciated your few few predictions which came true!

 

As Rajiv ji said, such predictions on the general details are very well denoted only through the traditional Astrology . Kp is always good for the events forecast , timing of events which are difficult to ascertain with the other systems. If we have both the knowledge will be more useful for which we have to read lot and practice.

 

We can follow the good points about the importance of the strength of houses and planets, conjunctions, Aspects and many other points along with our KP whihc will definitely enrich our knowledge.

 

As I was not much confident with the knowledege in this subject, I did not participate.

 

But it sounds you have some exposure which is appreciated.

 

Regards

Adith

 

 

 

 

 

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajivji Sir,Thanks for guidance.In birth chart of this person there seems unstable source of earning.Sub lord of 10th cusp is retrograde Rahu and 10th and 11th lord Saturn is posited in 8th house.This also shows weak sign of stable earning.This person had tried many times to earn huge money by way of business but could not do so.He could not get any thing in legacy.source of earning had been writing and speaking.He should have earned money ,name,and fame during Saturn- Venus period during 16.02.1987 to 7.04.1990.His father should have died during 07.04.1990 to 21.03.1991.Again he should have earned money during 20.03.1991 to 19.10.1992.He had done religious work during 03.10.1996 to 17.04.1999 and again he had suffered a great loss from 17.04.1999 to 10.09.2002.He again earned money from 10.09.2002 to 10.07.2005 and from 10.07.2005 to 16.10.2007 he should have earned from writing books.From 16.10.2007 to 12.10.2008

during Mercury- Mars -he has been performing religious deeds and earning money.One of the brothers and sisters may have died during this period.On the whole at present he should be facing great hard ships.Submitted for your perusal and reply.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

--- On Sat, 9/19/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > wrote:

 

 

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya >

Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

@gro ups.comSaturday, September 19, 2009, 4:43 AM

 

 

 

dhirendraji

personality is not important..

What does this person do...u can say business income and behaviour earnings from ??

physically mentally financially ....comments

rajiv

 

 

 

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>@gro ups.com Friday, 18 September, 2009 10:41:31 PMRe: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajiv Ji,My opinion about this person is as following-This person is courageous,religiou s person,knowledgeabl e about time,interested in scientific and technical work,blessed with good brain & wealth.This person must have knowledge of astrology.blessed with beautiful spouse having big eyes.This person has tall height,pleasant big eyes,beautiful face,pronounced nose and wide fore head.This person may be Tantrik(having knowledge of talismans).Source of earning should be writing and speaking. This person must have many brothers.This person may suffer from acidity.Submitted for perusal.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

--- On Fri, 9/18/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > wrote:

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50@gro ups.com

Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:29 AM

 

 

COMMENT ON THIS PERSON AND PERSONALITY

 

 

 

 

sudhir <taurus.sudhir@ gmail.com>@gro ups.com

Thursday, 17 September, 2009 8:53:24 PM Quiz



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Dear Rajiv ji,

 

Something seems wrong with your input or the software. Even in Bhava Chalit chart, Mars remains in 3rd house. 2nd house lord Venus also remains in first house in Bhava Chalit.

 

Also, your analysis is just opposite to my analysis of the last email where I mentioned that it is Jupiter that is destroying the chart. If Jupiter would have had positive aspect on 5 planets, native had not been in such a bad situation. Jupiter is definitely a malefic which can be ascertained from vimshottari dasa which is applicable to both KP and traditional.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

 

 

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:03 PM, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear punitji and all learned members

since we had learned tadtional astrology and kp both .

IN traditional bhavchalit kundli is as good as cups 

in  KP style punitji had clearly pointed the problems in chart.

In traditional..i am in opinion of  astrologer must check all three charts...four also...moon ,lagna  , chalit and bhavchalit... by asking one two simple question to jatak we can know which chart is working on jatak..and predict the truth.

we must correct results by both methods..

in tradtional bhavchalit 9as per kundli for windows) .mars going to 2nd house of chart  and 2nd lord going to 12th house of chart with sun ...mercury and ketu in first house in mesh rashi ...(that f mars gives slight crackness or vimsicial  nature. mars saturn opp to each other from 2nd and 8th house .. only moon in 11th house and jupitor in 5th house saving the jatak.rest all planets are opposite 

 

MY only points is to get correct results from all methods and ways of astrology ...which ever u try 

rajiv

 

 

 

Punit Pandey <punitp Sent: Friday, 25 September, 2009 11:24:25 AM

 

Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50 

 

 

 

 

Dear Friends,

 

Just a quick correction, Sun is not lagna lord but occupant of the lagna. It seems that I had written my email in ardhachetanavastha last night - probably feeling sleepy. As correctly pointed out by Adith ji, Mars is the lagna lord. Rest of the points mentioned remains same.

 

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

 

 

 

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 10:23 AM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Punit ji,Thanks for your points. I do accept!I said through KP perspective with the Sublord of the respective cusps, no one (who participated) could not predict it. With this example, the Postmortem can be useful for our study. Or we have to practice a lot with our KP points yet.

You have given the points on the yogas. Some yogas can be seen in many poor people's chart as there are many yogas prevailing. Apart from these, there could be some other points of combinations, aspects etc, has to be seen.

 

Further as you said The Lagna Lord is not Sun. It is Mars which is posited in 3.Hope there are some confusions in the chart, as KSV Ramani ji has said, the Asc. lord Mars is posited in 6. and other points like Sat aspects to 9th and more. Hope the cahrt is different.!! ? Or I am wrong?

Position of more planets in Asc inflict the Asc., depends on their strength, qualities. It is common for Tarditional and Kp.I never say the Tarditional is better.KP is always the best. But some traditional points may add value to our study. this is my point.

 

In this chart, the 10th CSL is Rahu is a strong signficator of 5,9,12 and 1(feebly 2,7) which are detrimental houses for the profession. The 2nd CSL is Venus is in its own star and sub and stongly signfies 1 and feebly 2 and 7. This 1 is against the monetary prospectus.The 6th CSL is also signfying 1,5,9,12 through stellar and sub level. This may show his unsteadyness in his career. The 1 and the 2, 7 signfications may show that his earning through by his own effort. The aboove points are signficating his state of unsteady in the profession and poor monetary gain.

 

With Regards

Adith

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:21 AM, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rajiv ji/ Adith ji and Friends,

 

Contrary to what Adith ji has said, I believe that principles of KP are more useful in this case than the principles of traditional astrology. See the chart from traditional astrology perspective -

 

1. Lagna lord Sun is exalted

2. Moon is Vargottama aspected by Jupiter (for the people who are not from tradional astrology background, I would like to tell them that well placed Sun and Moon is very important condition for rajyoga, which seems to be there in this chart)

3. Moon is in kendra from Jupiter creating gaja-kesari yoga

4. Moon - Jupiter aspect is also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively

5. Venus - Sun also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively.

6. 9th lord Jupiter aspecting five planets from 5th kona.

 

Can one get better than this? So from the traditional astrology perspective, everything looks very good (at least at the surface level).

 

If we will see the chart from KP perspective, we can see that four planets are posited in 1st house negating 2nd, the house of finance. Jupiter is situated in 5th house being lord of 12th house and 9th house. Contrary to traditional astrology, KP astrology doesn't regard 5th house and 9th house any good from financial perspective. 9th house is negation of 10th house, house of profession. 5th house is 11th to 7th which generally is not good for finance and denotes losing to the competition. Saturn is in 8th hosue. Only two planets that are out 1, 5, 9, 12 are Mars and Moon. Unfortunately person did not get mahadasa of either Mars or Moon.

 

9th and 12th lord Jupiter in 5th in the Star of Sun in 1st is the most malefic planet in this chart. No wonder, Jupiter aspecting Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury and Ketu killing the whole chart.

 

This chart reminds us how dangerous can be kona - 1, 5, 9. In tradional astrology these are considered as laxmi sthana :-) and see the position of poor pujari.

 

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Dhirendra nath Ji,

 

Appreciated your few few predictions which came true!

 

As Rajiv ji said, such predictions on the general details are very well denoted only through the traditional Astrology . Kp is always good for the events forecast , timing of events which are difficult to ascertain with the other systems. If we have both the knowledge will be more useful for which we have to read lot and practice.

 

We can follow the good points about the importance of the strength of houses and planets, conjunctions, Aspects and many other points along with our KP whihc will definitely enrich our knowledge.

 

As I was not much confident with the knowledege in this subject, I did not participate.

 

But it sounds you have some exposure which is appreciated.

 

Regards

Adith

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajivji Sir,Thanks for guidance.In birth chart of this person there seems unstable source of earning.Sub lord of 10th cusp is retrograde Rahu and 10th and 11th lord Saturn is posited in 8th house.This also shows weak sign of stable earning.This person had tried many times to earn huge money by way of business but could not do so.He could not get any thing in legacy.source of earning had been writing and speaking.He should have earned money ,name,and fame during Saturn- Venus period during 16.02.1987 to 7.04.1990.His father should have died during 07.04.1990 to 21.03.1991.Again he should have earned money during 20.03.1991 to 19.10.1992.He had done religious work during 03.10.1996 to 17.04.1999 and again he had suffered a great loss from 17.04.1999 to 10.09.2002.He again earned money from 10.09.2002 to 10.07.2005 and from 10.07.2005 to 16.10.2007 he should have earned from writing books.From 16.10.2007 to 12.10.2008 during Mercury- Mars -he has been performing religious deeds and earning money.One of the brothers and sisters may have died during this period.On the whole at present he should be facing great hard ships.Submitted for your perusal and reply.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 --- On Sat, 9/19/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya >

Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

@gro ups.com

 

 

Saturday, September 19, 2009, 4:43 AM

 

 

 

 

dhirendraji

personality is not important..

What does this person do...u can say business income and behaviour earnings from ??

physically mentally financially ....comments

rajiv

 

 

 

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>@gro ups.com Friday, 18 September, 2009 10:41:31 PMRe: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajiv Ji,My opinion about this person is as following-This person is courageous,religiou s person,knowledgeabl e about time,interested in scientific and technical work,blessed with good brain & wealth.This person must have knowledge of astrology.blessed with beautiful spouse having big eyes.This person has tall height,pleasant big eyes,beautiful face,pronounced nose and wide fore head.This person may be Tantrik(having knowledge of talismans).Source of earning should be writing and speaking. This person must have many brothers.This person may suffer from acidity.Submitted for perusal.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 --- On Fri, 9/18/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > wrote:

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50@gro ups.com

Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:29 AM

 

 

 

COMMENT ON THIS PERSON AND PERSONALITY 

 

 

 

 

sudhir <taurus.sudhir@ gmail.com>@gro ups.com

Thursday, 17 September, 2009 8:53:24 PM Quiz 



Dear list

 

I am looking forward to somebody posting quiz like Rajiv ji.

 

Best regards

Sudhir

 

 

 

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Dear Sunil ji,

 

Let me assure you that the forum doesn't have any aversion against traditional astrology. Let me quote from the forum constitution (http://logy.astrosage.com/forum-constitution) -

 

" Please don’t try to prove superiority of one branch of astrology over another. In this group, all branches should be treated with equal respect. Respect for other branches is essential for research and discussion. "

 

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear punit Pandey ji

Thanks for talking in traditional astrological terms Sure at one Look the chart is promising without deeply delving into it .But knowledge of very basics has to b employed with unfolding  dasa s to see the promise in chart

 see the parivrjya yoga ( so many planets in one house -4 or more planets in House will result a sort of sanyasa type of yoga and here it is happening in lagna itself and lagna represent the person himself ) in lagna ,and dainya parivarthana between Lagna Lord and 3rd L and daridra yoga happening in lagna ( lagna and lagna Lord affcted along marakesh and dhanesh ) along with duryoga ( karmesha and labhesa in dustanas ) and Born in Morning sandhya ( junction between day and nite )  along with dasa s u can work a gr8 deal abt the chart

Also being a Nite birth ( as he born within a ghati b4 sunrise and day strt with suryodaya according to Hindu astrology  ) the gulika also happening in 7th House and along with rahu ,also in nite births chandra balam is important factor in supporting Horoscopes and Born in  krishna paksha

even to fruitify the gajakesari in material level the retrogresion of Jup and lack of plaksha bala of moon etc r hindrance ( also jup shud own good houses ) and jup shud not b afflicted is another critiria ( here Nodes and sani afflicting jup )

Pls Note any good yoga to work the status of the planets and afflictions etc is important and it  wil giv a strong decrese in the strnght of the yoga and its other side aspects wil b pronounced ( like spiritual )  .

Then  see the dasa s ,he born in rahu-ketu ( birth dasa will b a pointer as it denotes the karma phala this soul may exprence ) and then got some what good jupiter dasa and after age of 24 he got saturn dasa for 19 yrs and where in prime period life he got best dasa ??

also sun is not having any support ( refer suryadi yogas,even according to nadies sun first sees venus ,then merc and then ketu  ) who is giver of raja yogas in a chart than moon ( moon is mother and she can take care a person when sun is giving results )

rgrds sunil nair PS-I know this is not a traditional astrology forum and some memebrs has deep aversion against  traditional astrology ,so any attacking kind of mails will prevent me frm further answering / discussing .

--- On Fri, 25/9/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50 Date: Friday, 25 September, 2009, 12:21 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rajiv ji/ Adith ji and Friends,

 

Contrary to what Adith ji has said, I believe that principles of KP are more useful in this case than the principles of traditional astrology. See the chart from traditional astrology perspective -

 

1. Lagna lord Sun is exalted

2. Moon is Vargottama aspected by Jupiter (for the people who are not from tradional astrology background, I would like to tell them that well placed Sun and Moon is very important condition for rajyoga, which seems to be there in this chart)

3. Moon is in kendra from Jupiter creating gaja-kesari yoga

4. Moon - Jupiter aspect is also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively

5. Venus - Sun also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively.

6. 9th lord Jupiter aspecting five planets from 5th kona.

 

Can one get better than this? So from the traditional astrology perspective, everything looks very good (at least at the surface level).

 

If we will see the chart from KP perspective, we can see that four planets are posited in 1st house negating 2nd, the house of finance. Jupiter is situated in 5th house being lord of 12th house and 9th house. Contrary to traditional astrology, KP astrology doesn't regard 5th house and 9th house any good from financial perspective. 9th house is negation of 10th house, house of profession. 5th house is 11th to 7th which generally is not good for finance and denotes losing to the competition. Saturn is in 8th hosue.. Only two planets that are out 1, 5, 9, 12 are Mars and Moon. Unfortunately person did not get mahadasa of either Mars or Moon.

 

9th and 12th lord Jupiter in 5th in the Star of Sun in 1st is the most malefic planet in this chart. No wonder, Jupiter aspecting Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury and Ketu killing the whole chart.

 

This chart reminds us how dangerous can be kona - 1, 5, 9. In tradional astrology these are considered as laxmi sthana :-) and see the position of poor pujari.

 

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

 

 

 

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Dhirendra nath Ji,

 

Appreciated your few few predictions which came true!

 

As Rajiv ji said, such predictions on the general details are very well denoted only through the traditional Astrology . Kp is always good for the events forecast , timing of events which are difficult to ascertain with the other systems. If we have both the knowledge will be more useful for which we have to read lot and practice.

 

We can follow the good points about the importance of the strength of houses and planets, conjunctions, Aspects and many other points along with our KP whihc will definitely enrich our knowledge.

 

As I was not much confident with the knowledege in this subject, I did not participate.

 

But it sounds you have some exposure which is appreciated.

 

Regards

Adith

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajivji Sir,Thanks for guidance.In birth chart of this person there seems unstable source of earning.Sub lord of 10th cusp is retrograde Rahu and 10th and 11th lord Saturn is posited in 8th house.This also shows weak sign of stable earning.This person had tried many times to earn huge money by way of business but could not do so.He could not get any thing in legacy.source of earning had been writing and speaking.He should have earned money ,name,and fame during Saturn- Venus period during 16.02.1987 to 7.04.1990.His father should have died during 07.04.1990 to 21.03.1991.Again he should have earned money during 20.03.1991 to 19.10.1992.He had done religious work during 03.10.1996 to 17.04.1999 and again he had suffered a great loss from 17.04.1999 to 10.09.2002.He again earned money from 10.09.2002 to 10.07.2005 and from 10.07.2005 to 16.10.2007 he should have earned from writing books.From 16.10.2007 to 12.10.2008 during Mercury- Mars -he has been performing religious deeds and earning money.One of the brothers and sisters may have died during this period.On the whole at present he should be facing great hard ships.Submitted for your perusal and reply.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 --- On Sat, 9/19/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya >

Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

@gro ups.com

 

 

Saturday, September 19, 2009, 4:43 AM

 

 

 

 

dhirendraji

personality is not important..

What does this person do...u can say business income and behaviour earnings from ??

physically mentally financially ....comments

rajiv

 

 

 

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>@gro ups.com Friday, 18 September, 2009 10:41:31 PMRe: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajiv Ji,My opinion about this person is as following-This person is courageous,religiou s person,knowledgeabl e about time,interested in scientific and technical work,blessed with good brain & wealth.This person must have knowledge of astrology.blessed with beautiful spouse having big eyes.This person has tall height,pleasant big eyes,beautiful face,pronounced nose and wide fore head.This person may be Tantrik(having knowledge of talismans).Source of earning should be writing and speaking. This person must have many brothers.This person may suffer from acidity.Submitted for perusal.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 --- On Fri, 9/18/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > wrote:

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50@gro ups.com

Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:29 AM

 

 

 

COMMENT ON THIS PERSON AND PERSONALITY 

 

 

 

 

sudhir <taurus.sudhir@ gmail.com>@gro ups.com

Thursday, 17 September, 2009 8:53:24 PM Quiz 



Dear list

 

I am looking forward to somebody posting quiz like Rajiv ji.

 

Best regards

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Dear Punit pandey i sure ,i agree with u But u shud accept the fact that we can see traditional charts without much depending on too much softwarism and it is also strght and direct ,but sure the exprnce of where to see what and how to judge a chart is important and it is coming frm exprnce .In my intital study days we r simply dpending panchangas and manauly calculating charts and that itself will giv a real practitioner what is in store for a chart .Now a days even many of the so called vedic astroogers even dont Know how to combine the panchanga effects ( Vara,thithi ,nasktra ,hora ,day etc of the purticular day a nativ is born with ) as u can see similar charts of Lord Budha with a ordinary pick pocketor too ( i mean almost similar planetary position ) but astrology is kalatantra and it has the benefic and malefic influence of the purticular day /thithi /nakshtra etc etc along with planetary position and it will make the chart totaly diffrnt .I find almost simiilar chart of Bill gates with a delhi person but alas the dasa was diffrnt ( sure there is so many exceptions too i find while analaysing a chart even if every thing is almost same as geologicaly same lagna to happen it takes diffrnt time .) any system in astrology what ever devlped in india is safe in hands of experts which any person with open views will agree on it i studied diffrnt streams and i find all working marvellously and unianimously almost .thanks for ur views /suggestions rgrds sunil nair , Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:>> Dear Sunil ji,> > I agree with the points you have mentioned and that is the reason I> mentioned "at least at the surface level." in the email. There are some> other good and bad traditional yogas that we didn't talk, but that was not> the purpose of my email.> > The reason I had written my email to highlight clear and simple approach in> KP and more importantly the role of 1st, 5th and 9th house in> KP. Application of this houses is slightly different than traditional> astrology and I wanted to highlight that.> > Thanks & Regards,> > Punit Pandey> > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala > wrote:> > >> >> >> > dear punit Pandey ji> >> > Thanks for talking in traditional astrological terms> >> > Sure at one Look the chart is promising without deeply delving into it .But> > knowledge of very basics has to b employed with unfolding dasa s to see the> > promise in chart> >> > see the parivrjya yoga ( so many planets in one house -4 or more planets> > in House will result a sort of sanyasa type of yoga and here it is happening> > in lagna itself and lagna represent the person himself ) in lagna ,and> > dainya parivarthana between Lagna Lord and 3rd L and daridra yoga happening> > in lagna ( lagna and lagna Lord affcted along marakesh and dhanesh ) along> > with duryoga ( karmesha and labhesa in dustanas ) and Born in Morning> > sandhya ( junction between day and nite ) along with dasa s u can work a> > gr8 deal abt the chart> >> > Also being a Nite birth ( as he born within a ghati b4 sunrise and day strt> > with suryodaya according to Hindu astrology ) the gulika also happening in> > 7th House and along with rahu ,also in nite births chandra balam is> > important factor in supporting Horoscopes and Born in krishna paksha> >> > even to fruitify the gajakesari in material level the retrogresion of Jup> > and lack of plaksha bala of moon etc r hindrance ( also jup shud own good> > houses ) and jup shud not b afflicted is another critiria ( here Nodes and> > sani afflicting jup )> >> > Pls Note any good yoga to work the status of the planets and afflictions> > etc is important and it wil giv a strong decrese in the strnght of the yoga> > and its other side aspects wil b pronounced ( like spiritual ) .> >> > Then see the dasa s ,he born in rahu-ketu ( birth dasa will b a pointer as> > it denotes the karma phala this soul may exprence ) and then got some what> > good jupiter dasa and after age of 24 he got saturn dasa for 19 yrs and> > where in prime period life he got best dasa ??> >> > also sun is not having any support ( refer suryadi yogas,even according to> > nadies sun first sees venus ,then merc and then ketu ) who is giver of raja> > yogas in a chart than moon ( moon is mother and she can take care a person> > when sun is giving results )> >> > rgrds sunil nair> >> > PS-> >> > I know this is not a traditional astrology forum and some memebrs has deep> > aversion against traditional astrology ,so any attacking kind of mails will> > prevent me frm further answering / discussing .> >> > --- On *Fri, 25/9/09, Punit Pandey punitp* wrote:> >> >> > Punit Pandey punitp > Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> > > > Friday, 25 September, 2009, 12:21 AM> >> >> >> > Dear Rajiv ji/ Adith ji and Friends,> >> > Contrary to what Adith ji has said, I believe that principles of KP are> > more useful in this case than the principles of traditional astrology. See> > the chart from traditional astrology perspective -> >> > 1. Lagna lord Sun is exalted> > 2. Moon is Vargottama aspected by Jupiter (for the people who are not from> > tradional astrology background, I would like to tell them that well placed> > Sun and Moon is very important condition for rajyoga, which seems to be> > there in this chart)> > 3. Moon is in kendra from Jupiter creating gaja-kesari yoga> > 4. Moon - Jupiter aspect is also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona> > lord respectively> > 5. Venus - Sun also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord> > respectively.> > 6. 9th lord Jupiter aspecting five planets from 5th kona.> >> > Can one get better than this? So from the traditional astrology> > perspective, everything looks very good (at least at the surface level).> >> > If we will see the chart from KP perspective, we can see that four planets> > are posited in 1st house negating 2nd, the house of finance. Jupiter is> > situated in 5th house being lord of 12th house and 9th house. Contrary to> > traditional astrology, KP astrology doesn't regard 5th house and 9th house> > any good from financial perspective. 9th house is negation of 10th house,> > house of profession. 5th house is 11th to 7th which generally is not good> > for finance and denotes losing to the competition. Saturn is in 8th hosue..> > Only two planets that are out 1, 5, 9, 12 are Mars and Moon. Unfortunately> > person did not get mahadasa of either Mars or Moon.> >> > 9th and 12th lord Jupiter in 5th in the Star of Sun in 1st is the most> > malefic planet in this chart. No wonder, Jupiter aspecting Sun, Moon, Mars,> > Mercury and Ketu killing the whole chart.> >> > This chart reminds us how dangerous can be kona - 1, 5, 9. In tradional> > astrology these are considered as laxmi sthana :-) and see the position of> > poor pujari.> >> > Thanks & Regards,> >> > Punit Pandey> >> >> > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@> > gmail.com <http://mc/compose?to=gkadithkasinath wrote:> >> >>> >>> >> Dear Dhirendra nath Ji,> >>> >> Appreciated your few few predictions which came true!> >>> >> As Rajiv ji said, such predictions on the general details are very well> >> denoted only through the traditional Astrology . Kp is always good for the> >> events forecast , timing of events which are difficult to ascertain with the> >> other systems. If we have both the knowledge will be more useful for which> >> we have to read lot and practice.> >>> >> We can follow the good points about the importance of the strength of> >> houses and planets, conjunctions, Aspects and many other points along with> >> our KP whihc will definitely enrich our knowledge.> >>> >> As I was not much confident with the knowledege in this subject, I did not> >> participate.> >>> >> But it sounds you have some exposure which is appreciated.> >>> >> Regards> >> Adith> >>> >>> >> On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@> >> ymail.com <http://mc/compose?to=dhirendranathmisra wrote:> >>> >>>> >>>> >>> *Respected Rajivji Sir*,Thanks for guidance.In birth chart of this> >>> person there seems unstable source of earning.Sub lord of 10th cusp is> >>> retrograde Rahu and 10th and 11th lord Saturn is posited in 8th house.This> >>> also shows weak sign of stable earning.This person had tried many times to> >>> earn huge money by way of business but could not do so.He could not get any> >>> thing in legacy.source of earning had been writing and speaking.He should> >>> have earned money ,name,and fame during Saturn- Venus period during> >>> 16.02.1987 to 7.04.1990.His father should have died during 07.04.1990 to> >>> 21.03.1991.Again he should have earned money during 20.03.1991 to> >>> 19.10.1992.He had done religious work during 03.10.1996 to 17.04.1999 and> >>> again he had suffered a great loss from 17.04.1999 to 10.09.2002.He again> >>> earned money from 10.09.2002 to 10.07.2005 and from 10.07.2005 to 16.10.2007> >>> he should have earned from writing books.From 16.10.2007 to 12.10.2008> >>> during Mercury- Mars -he has been performing religious deeds and earning> >>> money.One of the brothers and sisters may have died during this period.On> >>> the whole at present he should be facing great hard ships.Submitted for your> >>> perusal and reply.*With regards*,> >>> Dhirendra Nath Misra> >>> **> >>>> >>>> >>> --- On *Sat, 9/19/09, rajiv bokariya bokaariya <http://mc/compose?to=bokaariya >>> >* wrote:> >>>> >>>> >>> rajiv bokariya bokaariya <http://mc/compose?to=bokaariya >>> >> >>> Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> >>> @gro ups.com<http://mc/compose?to= > >>> Saturday, September 19, 2009, 4:43 AM> >>>> >>> dhirendraji> >>> personality is not important..> >>> What does this person do...u can say business income and behaviour> >>> earnings from ??> >>> physically mentally financially ....comments> >>> rajiv> >>>> >>> ------------------------------> >>> ** Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>> >>> *To:* @gro ups.com> >>> *Sent:* Friday, 18 September, 2009 10:41:31 PM> >>> *Subject:* Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59> >>> 75E50> >>>> >>> *Respected Rajiv* Ji,My opinion about this person is as> >>> following-This person is courageous,religiou s person,knowledgeabl e about> >>> time,interested in scientific and technical work,blessed with good brain & > >>> wealth.This person must have knowledge of astrology.blessed with beautiful> >>> spouse having big eyes.This person has tall height,pleasant big> >>> eyes,beautiful face,pronounced nose and wide fore head.This person may be> >>> Tantrik(having knowledge of talismans).Source of earning should be writing> >>> and speaking. This person must have many brothers.This person may suffer> >>> from acidity.Submitted for perusal.With regards,> >>> Dhirendra Nath Misra> >>> **> >>>> >>>> >>> --- On *Fri, 9/18/09, rajiv bokariya bokaariya >* wrote:> >>>> >>>> >>> rajiv bokariya bokaariya >> >>> QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> >>> @gro ups.com> >>> Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:29 AM> >>>> >>> COMMENT ON THIS PERSON AND PERSONALITY> >>>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------> >>> ** sudhir <taurus.sudhir@ gmail.com>> >>> *To:* @gro ups.com> >>> *Sent:* Thursday, 17 September, 2009 8:53:24 PM> >>> *Subject:* Quiz> >>>> >>> > >>> Dear list> >>>> >>> I am looking forward to somebody posting quiz like Rajiv ji.> >>>> >>> Best regards> >>> Sudhir> >>> ------------------------------> >>>> >>> ------------------------------> >>> Keep up with people you care about with India Mail. 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Dear Punit pandey Ji sure i agree with u and i also share same thoughts with u that No system is superior Non inferior and it is practitioners who make it good or worst .I know abt grp Policy and esp ur own personal opinion but what i am mentioning is some of the memebrs is not that liberal in attitude frm my own exprnce thanks for ur good words rgrds sunil nair , Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:>> Dear Sunil ji,> > Let me assure you that the forum doesn't have any aversion against> traditional astrology. Let me quote from the forum constitution (> http://logy.astrosage.com/forum-constitution) -> > *"Please don’t try to prove superiority of one branch of astrology over> another. In this group, all branches should be treated with equal respect.> Respect for other branches is essential for research and discussion."*> > Thanks & Regards,> > Punit Pandey> > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala > wrote:> > >> >> >> > dear punit Pandey ji> >> > Thanks for talking in traditional astrological terms> >> > Sure at one Look the chart is promising without deeply delving into it .But> > knowledge of very basics has to b employed with unfolding dasa s to see the> > promise in chart> >> > see the parivrjya yoga ( so many planets in one house -4 or more planets> > in House will result a sort of sanyasa type of yoga and here it is happening> > in lagna itself and lagna represent the person himself ) in lagna ,and> > dainya parivarthana between Lagna Lord and 3rd L and daridra yoga happening> > in lagna ( lagna and lagna Lord affcted along marakesh and dhanesh ) along> > with duryoga ( karmesha and labhesa in dustanas ) and Born in Morning> > sandhya ( junction between day and nite ) along with dasa s u can work a> > gr8 deal abt the chart> >> > Also being a Nite birth ( as he born within a ghati b4 sunrise and day strt> > with suryodaya according to Hindu astrology ) the gulika also happening in> > 7th House and along with rahu ,also in nite births chandra balam is> > important factor in supporting Horoscopes and Born in krishna paksha> >> > even to fruitify the gajakesari in material level the retrogresion of Jup> > and lack of plaksha bala of moon etc r hindrance ( also jup shud own good> > houses ) and jup shud not b afflicted is another critiria ( here Nodes and> > sani afflicting jup )> >> > Pls Note any good yoga to work the status of the planets and afflictions> > etc is important and it wil giv a strong decrese in the strnght of the yoga> > and its other side aspects wil b pronounced ( like spiritual ) .> >> > Then see the dasa s ,he born in rahu-ketu ( birth dasa will b a pointer as> > it denotes the karma phala this soul may exprence ) and then got some what> > good jupiter dasa and after age of 24 he got saturn dasa for 19 yrs and> > where in prime period life he got best dasa ??> >> > also sun is not having any support ( refer suryadi yogas,even according to> > nadies sun first sees venus ,then merc and then ketu ) who is giver of raja> > yogas in a chart than moon ( moon is mother and she can take care a person> > when sun is giving results )> >> > rgrds sunil nair> >> > PS-> >> > I know this is not a traditional astrology forum and some memebrs has deep> > aversion against traditional astrology ,so any attacking kind of mails will> > prevent me frm further answering / discussing .> >> > --- On *Fri, 25/9/09, Punit Pandey punitp* wrote:> >> >> > Punit Pandey punitp > Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> > > > Friday, 25 September, 2009, 12:21 AM> >> >> >> > Dear Rajiv ji/ Adith ji and Friends,> >> > Contrary to what Adith ji has said, I believe that principles of KP are> > more useful in this case than the principles of traditional astrology. See> > the chart from traditional astrology perspective -> >> > 1. Lagna lord Sun is exalted> > 2. Moon is Vargottama aspected by Jupiter (for the people who are not from> > tradional astrology background, I would like to tell them that well placed> > Sun and Moon is very important condition for rajyoga, which seems to be> > there in this chart)> > 3. Moon is in kendra from Jupiter creating gaja-kesari yoga> > 4. Moon - Jupiter aspect is also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona> > lord respectively> > 5. Venus - Sun also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord> > respectively.> > 6. 9th lord Jupiter aspecting five planets from 5th kona.> >> > Can one get better than this? So from the traditional astrology> > perspective, everything looks very good (at least at the surface level).> >> > If we will see the chart from KP perspective, we can see that four planets> > are posited in 1st house negating 2nd, the house of finance. Jupiter is> > situated in 5th house being lord of 12th house and 9th house. Contrary to> > traditional astrology, KP astrology doesn't regard 5th house and 9th house> > any good from financial perspective. 9th house is negation of 10th house,> > house of profession. 5th house is 11th to 7th which generally is not good> > for finance and denotes losing to the competition. Saturn is in 8th hosue..> > Only two planets that are out 1, 5, 9, 12 are Mars and Moon. Unfortunately> > person did not get mahadasa of either Mars or Moon.> >> > 9th and 12th lord Jupiter in 5th in the Star of Sun in 1st is the most> > malefic planet in this chart. No wonder, Jupiter aspecting Sun, Moon, Mars,> > Mercury and Ketu killing the whole chart.> >> > This chart reminds us how dangerous can be kona - 1, 5, 9. In tradional> > astrology these are considered as laxmi sthana :-) and see the position of> > poor pujari.> >> > Thanks & Regards,> >> > Punit Pandey> >> >> > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@> > gmail.com <http://mc/compose?to=gkadithkasinath wrote:> >> >>> >>> >> Dear Dhirendra nath Ji,> >>> >> Appreciated your few few predictions which came true!> >>> >> As Rajiv ji said, such predictions on the general details are very well> >> denoted only through the traditional Astrology . Kp is always good for the> >> events forecast , timing of events which are difficult to ascertain with the> >> other systems. If we have both the knowledge will be more useful for which> >> we have to read lot and practice.> >>> >> We can follow the good points about the importance of the strength of> >> houses and planets, conjunctions, Aspects and many other points along with> >> our KP whihc will definitely enrich our knowledge.> >>> >> As I was not much confident with the knowledege in this subject, I did not> >> participate.> >>> >> But it sounds you have some exposure which is appreciated.> >>> >> Regards> >> Adith> >>> >>> >> On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@> >> ymail.com <http://mc/compose?to=dhirendranathmisra wrote:> >>> >>>> >>>> >>> *Respected Rajivji Sir*,Thanks for guidance.In birth chart of this> >>> person there seems unstable source of earning.Sub lord of 10th cusp is> >>> retrograde Rahu and 10th and 11th lord Saturn is posited in 8th house.This> >>> also shows weak sign of stable earning.This person had tried many times to> >>> earn huge money by way of business but could not do so.He could not get any> >>> thing in legacy.source of earning had been writing and speaking.He should> >>> have earned money ,name,and fame during Saturn- Venus period during> >>> 16.02.1987 to 7.04.1990.His father should have died during 07.04.1990 to> >>> 21.03.1991.Again he should have earned money during 20.03.1991 to> >>> 19.10.1992.He had done religious work during 03.10.1996 to 17.04.1999 and> >>> again he had suffered a great loss from 17.04.1999 to 10.09.2002.He again> >>> earned money from 10.09.2002 to 10.07.2005 and from 10.07.2005 to 16.10.2007> >>> he should have earned from writing books.From 16.10.2007 to 12.10.2008> >>> during Mercury- Mars -he has been performing religious deeds and earning> >>> money.One of the brothers and sisters may have died during this period.On> >>> the whole at present he should be facing great hard ships.Submitted for your> >>> perusal and reply.*With regards*,> >>> Dhirendra Nath Misra> >>> **> >>>> >>>> >>> --- On *Sat, 9/19/09, rajiv bokariya bokaariya <http://mc/compose?to=bokaariya >>> >* wrote:> >>>> >>>> >>> rajiv bokariya bokaariya <http://mc/compose?to=bokaariya >>> >> >>> Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> >>> @gro ups.com<http://mc/compose?to= > >>> Saturday, September 19, 2009, 4:43 AM> >>>> >>> dhirendraji> >>> personality is not important..> >>> What does this person do...u can say business income and behaviour> >>> earnings from ??> >>> physically mentally financially ....comments> >>> rajiv> >>>> >>> ------------------------------> >>> ** Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>> >>> *To:* @gro ups.com> >>> *Sent:* Friday, 18 September, 2009 10:41:31 PM> >>> *Subject:* Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59> >>> 75E50> >>>> >>> *Respected Rajiv* Ji,My opinion about this person is as> >>> following-This person is courageous,religiou s person,knowledgeabl e about> >>> time,interested in scientific and technical work,blessed with good brain & > >>> wealth.This person must have knowledge of astrology.blessed with beautiful> >>> spouse having big eyes.This person has tall height,pleasant big> >>> eyes,beautiful face,pronounced nose and wide fore head.This person may be> >>> Tantrik(having knowledge of talismans).Source of earning should be writing> >>> and speaking. This person must have many brothers.This person may suffer> >>> from acidity.Submitted for perusal.With regards,> >>> Dhirendra Nath Misra> >>> **> >>>> >>>> >>> --- On *Fri, 9/18/09, rajiv bokariya bokaariya >* wrote:> >>>> >>>> >>> rajiv bokariya bokaariya >> >>> QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> >>> @gro ups.com> >>> Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:29 AM> >>>> >>> COMMENT ON THIS PERSON AND PERSONALITY> >>>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------> >>> ** sudhir <taurus.sudhir@ gmail.com>> >>> *To:* @gro ups.com> >>> *Sent:* Thursday, 17 September, 2009 8:53:24 PM> >>> *Subject:* Quiz> >>>> >>> > >>> Dear list> >>>> >>> I am looking forward to somebody posting quiz like Rajiv ji.> >>>> >>> Best regards> >>> Sudhir> >>> ------------------------------> >>>> >>> ------------------------------> >>> Keep up with people you care about with India Mail. Learn how<http://in.rd./tagline_galaxy_1/*http://in.overview.mail./connectmore>.> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------> >>> Try the new India Homepage. Click here<http://in.rd./tagline_metro_1/*http://in./trynew>.> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > ------------------------------> > Try the new India Homepage. Click here<http://in.rd./tagline_metro_1/*http://in./trynew>> > .> >> > > >>

[Guest guest]

punitjiI use kundli for windows...(computer zone;s) which gave good results for me.In that software bhavchalit is showing same. ayanmash not shwon in software but since i am using from many days, i found that correct while analysing such "chhoperustom charts..We are not opposing...u said jup is destroying chart ,,,,,u are correct ,,,,but since it is aspecting asc and budh and ketu only in ascdent in bhavchalit ... i think the jupitor saved him from going FOOL or full mad.....in life..Jupitors aspecting moon coming to 11th house of bhavhchalit ,,,,so he is not called as MAD.Though jupitor had not given much ...but prevented him from MADness. ( i think so )i had found many persons having mars mercury and

ketu too hot temepered and too ugly not listening to any one in world. they destroy family in all.......One such astrologer's son from beed had same mars mercury ketu in janmalagna chalit and bhavchalit..........stroy is too bad ... we can write on his doings..it is so bad.here all three combination is there but only jup aspecting moon and asc in bhavchalit ....prevented him from curelality and illegel business as well as wrong doings..( i think so ) BAD dasha or dasha in age of 20 to 60 ..must be singifier of money earning houses... which is must for anyone / good for any person to live .MOney is most powerful weapon of life.so not good dasha played bad role of life.rajiv Punit Pandey <punitp Sent: Friday, 25 September, 2009 12:59:37 PMRe: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

Dear Rajiv ji,

 

Something seems wrong with your input or the software. Even in Bhava Chalit chart, Mars remains in 3rd house. 2nd house lord Venus also remains in first house in Bhava Chalit.

 

Also, your analysis is just opposite to my analysis of the last email where I mentioned that it is Jupiter that is destroying the chart. If Jupiter would have had positive aspect on 5 planets, native had not been in such a bad situation. Jupiter is definitely a malefic which can be ascertained from vimshottari dasa which is applicable to both KP and traditional.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

 

 

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:03 PM, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear punitji and all learned members

since we had learned tadtional astrology and kp both .

IN traditional bhavchalit kundli is as good as cups

in KP style punitji had clearly pointed the problems in chart.

In traditional. .i am in opinion of astrologer must check all three charts...four also...moon ,lagna , chalit and bhavchalit.. . by asking one two simple question to jatak we can know which chart is working on jatak..and predict the truth.

we must correct results by both methods..

in tradtional bhavchalit 9as per kundli for windows) .mars going to 2nd house of chart and 2nd lord going to 12th house of chart with sun ...mercury and ketu in first house in mesh rashi ...(that f mars gives slight crackness or vimsicial nature. mars saturn opp to each other from 2nd and 8th house .. only moon in 11th house and jupitor in 5th house saving the jatak.rest all planets are opposite

 

MY only points is to get correct results from all methods and ways of astrology ...which ever u try

rajiv

 

 

 

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> @gro ups.comFriday, 25 September, 2009 11:24:25 AM

 

Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

 

 

Dear Friends,

 

Just a quick correction, Sun is not lagna lord but occupant of the lagna. It seems that I had written my email in ardhachetanavastha last night - probably feeling sleepy. As correctly pointed out by Adith ji, Mars is the lagna lord. Rest of the points mentioned remains same.

 

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

 

 

 

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 10:23 AM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Punit ji,Thanks for your points. I do accept!I said through KP perspective with the Sublord of the respective cusps, no one (who participated) could not predict it. With this example, the Postmortem can be useful for our study. Or we have to practice a lot with our KP points yet.

You have given the points on the yogas. Some yogas can be seen in many poor people's chart as there are many yogas prevailing. Apart from these, there could be some other points of combinations, aspects etc, has to be seen.

 

Further as you said The Lagna Lord is not Sun. It is Mars which is posited in 3.Hope there are some confusions in the chart, as KSV Ramani ji has said, the Asc. lord Mars is posited in 6. and other points like Sat aspects to 9th and more. Hope the cahrt is different.!! ? Or I am wrong?

Position of more planets in Asc inflict the Asc., depends on their strength, qualities. It is common for Tarditional and Kp.I never say the Tarditional is better.KP is always the best. But some traditional points may add value to our study. this is my point.

 

In this chart, the 10th CSL is Rahu is a strong signficator of 5,9,12 and 1(feebly 2,7) which are detrimental houses for the profession. The 2nd CSL is Venus is in its own star and sub and stongly signfies 1 and feebly 2 and 7. This 1 is against the monetary prospectus.The 6th CSL is also signfying 1,5,9,12 through stellar and sub level. This may show his unsteadyness in his career. The 1 and the 2, 7 signfications may show that his earning through by his own effort. The aboove points are signficating his state of unsteady in the profession and poor monetary gain.

 

With Regards

Adith

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:21 AM, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rajiv ji/ Adith ji and Friends,

 

Contrary to what Adith ji has said, I believe that principles of KP are more useful in this case than the principles of traditional astrology. See the chart from traditional astrology perspective -

 

1. Lagna lord Sun is exalted

2. Moon is Vargottama aspected by Jupiter (for the people who are not from tradional astrology background, I would like to tell them that well placed Sun and Moon is very important condition for rajyoga, which seems to be there in this chart)

3. Moon is in kendra from Jupiter creating gaja-kesari yoga

4. Moon - Jupiter aspect is also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively

5. Venus - Sun also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively.

6. 9th lord Jupiter aspecting five planets from 5th kona.

 

Can one get better than this? So from the traditional astrology perspective, everything looks very good (at least at the surface level).

 

If we will see the chart from KP perspective, we can see that four planets are posited in 1st house negating 2nd, the house of finance. Jupiter is situated in 5th house being lord of 12th house and 9th house. Contrary to traditional astrology, KP astrology doesn't regard 5th house and 9th house any good from financial perspective. 9th house is negation of 10th house, house of profession. 5th house is 11th to 7th which generally is not good for finance and denotes losing to the competition. Saturn is in 8th hosue. Only two planets that are out 1, 5, 9, 12 are Mars and Moon. Unfortunately person did not get mahadasa of either Mars or Moon.

 

9th and 12th lord Jupiter in 5th in the Star of Sun in 1st is the most malefic planet in this chart. No wonder, Jupiter aspecting Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury and Ketu killing the whole chart.

 

This chart reminds us how dangerous can be kona - 1, 5, 9. In tradional astrology these are considered as laxmi sthana :-) and see the position of poor pujari.

 

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Dhirendra nath Ji,

 

Appreciated your few few predictions which came true!

 

As Rajiv ji said, such predictions on the general details are very well denoted only through the traditional Astrology . Kp is always good for the events forecast , timing of events which are difficult to ascertain with the other systems. If we have both the knowledge will be more useful for which we have to read lot and practice.

 

We can follow the good points about the importance of the strength of houses and planets, conjunctions, Aspects and many other points along with our KP whihc will definitely enrich our knowledge.

 

As I was not much confident with the knowledege in this subject, I did not participate.

 

But it sounds you have some exposure which is appreciated.

 

Regards

Adith

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajivji Sir,Thanks for guidance.In birth chart of this person there seems unstable source of earning.Sub lord of 10th cusp is retrograde Rahu and 10th and 11th lord Saturn is posited in 8th house.This also shows weak sign of stable earning.This person had tried many times to earn huge money by way of business but could not do so.He could not get any thing in legacy.source of earning had been writing and speaking.He should have earned money ,name,and fame during Saturn- Venus period during 16.02.1987 to 7.04.1990.His father should have died during 07.04.1990 to 21.03.1991.Again he should have earned money during 20.03.1991 to 19.10.1992.He had done religious work during 03.10.1996 to 17.04.1999 and again he had suffered a great loss from 17.04.1999 to 10.09.2002.He again earned money from 10.09.2002 to 10.07.2005 and from 10.07.2005 to 16.10.2007 he should have earned from writing books.From 16.10.2007 to 12.10.2008 during Mercury-

Mars -he has been performing religious deeds and earning money.One of the brothers and sisters may have died during this period.On the whole at present he should be facing great hard ships.Submitted for your perusal and reply.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

--- On Sat, 9/19/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya >

Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

@gro ups.com

 

 

Saturday, September 19, 2009, 4:43 AM

 

 

 

dhirendraji

personality is not important..

What does this person do...u can say business income and behaviour earnings from ??

physically mentally financially ....comments

rajiv

 

 

 

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>@gro ups.com Friday, 18 September, 2009 10:41:31 PMRe: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajiv Ji,My opinion about this person is as following-This person is courageous,religiou s person,knowledgeabl e about time,interested in scientific and technical work,blessed with good brain & wealth.This person must have knowledge of astrology.blessed with beautiful spouse having big eyes.This person has tall height,pleasant big eyes,beautiful face,pronounced nose and wide fore head.This person may be Tantrik(having knowledge of talismans).Source of earning should be writing and speaking. This person must have many brothers.This person may suffer from acidity.Submitted for perusal.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

--- On Fri, 9/18/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > wrote:

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50@gro ups.com

Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:29 AM

 

 

COMMENT ON THIS PERSON AND PERSONALITY

 

 

 

 

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Best regards

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Dear Sri Rajivji,

 

Your last quiz solution is a  great

disappointment to me.  I expected

eagerly another bomb explosion like

previous one. While it became

a defused bomb.  The expectation was more, because of very

thrilling

and unexpected turn was there in the previous quiz.  Still I feel

that

this chart is not such a poor one with the data furnished by you,

though

some impediments were expected due to 8th strong

signification and 3 or

4 planets going to 12th. Lagna and it sub lord are

aspected by their own

Lord Mars and the 9th lord with self strength, Venus in

own house in 11th

Csl Moon’s star as 2nd lord. Rahu agent of Mars, Moon 11thCSL &

also

 Venus, in whose star Rahu is placed

cannot make a man so poor and

Live with charity food.  Moreover, I had

the least idea of using traditional

Astrology method, to which I am fairly

coversant also, as it is a forum

Meant for K.P.System.  Hope you understand

my stand on the issue.

I am expecting a good intelligent quiz

from you next.

 

Truly yours,

 

K.S.V.Ramani    

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of rajiv bokariya

25 September 2009 12:03

 

Re: QUIZ

(NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear punitji and all learned members

 

 

since we had learned tadtional astrology and kp both .

 

 

IN traditional bhavchalit kundli is as good as cups

 

 

in KP style punitji had clearly pointed the problems in chart.

 

 

In traditional..i am in opinion of astrologer must check all

three charts...four also...moon ,lagna , chalit and bhavchalit... by

asking one two simple question to jatak we can know which chart is working on

jatak..and predict the truth.

 

 

we must correct results by both methods..

 

 

in tradtional bhavchalit 9as per kundli for windows) .mars going to 2nd

house of chart and 2nd lord going to 12th house of chart with sun

....mercury and ketu in first house in mesh rashi ...(that f mars gives slight

crackness or vimsicial nature. mars saturn opp to each other from 2nd and

8th house .. only moon in 11th house and jupitor in 5th house saving the

jatak.rest all planets are opposite

 

 

 

 

 

MY only points is to get correct results from all methods and ways of

astrology ...which ever u try

 

 

rajiv

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Punit Pandey

<punitp >

 

Friday, 25 September, 2009

11:24:25 AM

Re: QUIZ

(NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

 

Dear Friends,

 

 

 

 

 

Just a quick correction, Sun is not lagna lord but occupant of the

lagna. It seems that I had written my email in ardhachetanavastha last night -

probably feeling sleepy. As correctly pointed out by Adith ji, Mars is the

lagna lord. Rest of the points mentioned remains same.

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks & Regards,

 

Punit Pandey

 

 

 

 

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 10:23 AM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>

wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Punit ji,

 

Thanks for your points. I do accept!

 

I said through KP perspective with the Sublord of the respective cusps, no one

(who participated) could not predict it. With this example, the Postmortem can

be useful for our study. Or we have to practice a lot with our KP points

yet.

 

You have given the points on the yogas. Some yogas can be seen in many poor

people's chart as there are many yogas prevailing. Apart from these, there

could be some other points of combinations, aspects etc, has to be seen.

 

 

 

 

 

Further as you said The Lagna Lord is not Sun. It is

Mars which is posited in 3.

Hope there are some confusions in the chart, as KSV Ramani ji has

said, the Asc. lord Mars is posited in 6. and other points like Sat

aspects to 9th and more. Hope the cahrt is different.!! ? Or I am wrong?

 

 

 

Position of more planets in Asc inflict the Asc., depends on their strength,

qualities. It is common for Tarditional and Kp.

 

I never say the Tarditional is better.KP is always the best. But some traditional points may add

value to our study. this is my point.

 

 

In this chart, the 10th CSL is Rahu is a strong signficator

of 5,9,12 and 1(feebly 2,7) which are detrimental houses for the

profession. The 2nd CSL is Venus is in its own star and sub and stongly

signfies 1 and

feebly 2 and 7. This 1 is against the monetary prospectus.The 6th CSL is also

signfying 1,5,9,12

through stellar and sub level. This may show his unsteadyness in his career.

The 1 and the 2, 7 signfications may show that his earning through by his own

effort. The aboove points are signficating his state of unsteady in the

profession and poor monetary gain.

 

 

 

 

 

With Regards

 

 

Adith

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:21 AM, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT)

com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rajiv ji/ Adith ji and Friends,

 

 

 

 

 

Contrary to what Adith ji has said, I believe that

principles of KP are more useful in this case than the principles of

traditional astrology. See the chart from traditional astrology perspective -

 

 

 

 

 

1. Lagna lord Sun is exalted

 

 

2. Moon is Vargottama aspected by Jupiter (for the

people who are not from tradional astrology background, I would like to tell

them that well placed Sun and Moon is very important condition for rajyoga,

which seems to be there in this chart)

 

 

3. Moon is in kendra from Jupiter creating gaja-kesari

yoga

 

 

4. Moon - Jupiter aspect is also creating rajyoga by

being kendra and kona lord respectively

 

 

5. Venus - Sun also creating rajyoga by being kendra

and kona lord respectively.

 

 

6. 9th lord Jupiter aspecting five planets from 5th

kona.

 

 

 

 

 

Can one get better than this? So from

the traditional astrology perspective, everything looks very good (at

least at the surface level).

 

 

 

 

 

If we will see the chart from KP perspective, we can

see that four planets are posited in 1st house negating 2nd, the house of

finance. Jupiter is situated in 5th house being lord of 12th house and 9th

house. Contrary to traditional astrology, KP astrology doesn't regard 5th house

and 9th house any good from financial perspective. 9th house is negation of

10th house, house of profession. 5th house is 11th to 7th which generally is

not good for finance and denotes losing to the competition. Saturn is in 8th

hosue. Only two planets that are out 1, 5, 9, 12 are Mars and Moon.

Unfortunately person did not get mahadasa of either Mars or Moon.

 

 

 

 

 

9th and 12th lord Jupiter in 5th in the Star of

Sun in 1st is the most malefic planet in this chart. No wonder, Jupiter

aspecting Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury and Ketu killing the whole chart.

 

 

 

 

 

This chart reminds us how dangerous can be kona - 1,

5, 9. In tradional astrology these are considered as laxmi sthana :-) and see

the position of poor pujari.

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks & Regards,

 

Punit Pandey

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>

wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Dhirendra nath Ji,

 

 

 

 

 

Appreciated your few few predictions which came true!

 

 

 

 

 

As Rajiv ji said, such predictions on the general

details are very well denoted only through the traditional Astrology . Kp

is always good for the events forecast , timing of events which are

difficult to ascertain with the other systems. If we have both the

knowledge will be more useful for which we have to read lot and practice.

 

 

 

 

 

We can follow the good points about the importance of

the strength of houses and planets, conjunctions, Aspects and many other points

along with our KP whihc will definitely enrich our knowledge.

 

 

 

 

 

As I was not much confident with the knowledege in

this subject, I did not participate.

 

 

 

 

 

But it sounds you have some exposure which is

appreciated.

 

 

 

 

 

Regards

 

 

Adith

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>

wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajivji Sir,Thanks

for guidance.In birth chart of this person there seems unstable source of

earning.Sub lord of 10th cusp is retrograde Rahu and 10th and 11th lord

Saturn is posited in 8th house.This also shows weak sign of stable earning.This

person had tried many times to earn huge money by way of business but could

not do so.He could not get any thing in legacy.source of earning had been

writing and speaking.He should have earned money ,name,and fame during

Saturn- Venus period during 16.02.1987 to 7.04.1990.His father should have

died during 07.04.1990 to 21.03.1991.Again he should have earned money during

20.03.1991 to 19.10.1992.He had done religious work during 03.10.1996 to

17.04.1999 and again he had suffered a great loss from 17.04.1999 to

10.09.2002.He again earned money from 10.09.2002 to 10.07.2005 and from

10.07.2005 to 16.10.2007 he should have earned from writing books.From

16.10.2007 to 12.10.2008 during Mercury- Mars -he has been performing

religious deeds and earning money.One of the brothers and sisters may have

died during this period.On the whole at present he should be facing great

hard ships.Submitted for your perusal and reply.With regards,

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Sat, 9/19/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya >

wrote:

 

 

 

 

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya >

 

 

Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957

6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

@gro

ups.com

 

Saturday,

September 19, 2009, 4:43 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

dhirendraji

 

 

personality is not important..

 

 

What does this person do...u can say business income

and behaviour earnings from ??

 

 

physically mentally financially ....comments

 

 

rajiv

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dhirendra Nath

Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>

 

To:

@gro ups.com

 

 

Friday, 18 September, 2009

10:41:31 PM

Re: QUIZ

(NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajiv

Ji,My opinion about this person is as following-This person is

courageous,religiou s person,knowledgeabl e about time,interested in

scientific and technical work,blessed with good brain & wealth.This

person must have knowledge of astrology.blessed with beautiful spouse

having big eyes.This person has tall height,pleasant big eyes,beautiful

face,pronounced nose and wide fore head.This person may be Tantrik(having

knowledge of talismans).Source of earning should be writing and

speaking. This person must have many brothers.This person may suffer

from acidity.Submitted for perusal.With regards,

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Fri, 9/18/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya >

wrote:

 

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya >

QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

@gro ups.com

Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:29 AM

 

 

 

 

 

COMMENT ON THIS PERSON AND PERSONALITY

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

sudhir

<taurus.sudhir@ gmail.com>

@gro ups.com

Thursday, 17 September,

2009 8:53:24 PM

Quiz

 

 

 



 

 

Dear list

 

 

 

 

 

I am looking forward to somebody posting quiz like Rajiv

ji.

 

 

 

 

 

Best regards

 

 

Sudhir

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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dear ramani jiThough the chart of great astrologer and he is a beed my native place. Fate can not be changed. I had personally met him many times. tea was scheduled daily for some day at my office at 4.30 pm after stock market timings. he used to come without fail.for many months. WE used discuss many charts inlcusing his own. But frankly telling truth ...he is living on charity food ...See once again going to traditional vedic......saturn in 8th house gives too much strain and struggle for a person for bread butter. he never dies so easily ....his death is master piece of "dainya or delayed death " (90% times prooved ok but some times gives great wealth ) In his chart saturn in 8th house aspecting jup (in

5th house) tenth house (3rd aspect) and second house mars ( mars as per kundli for windows software in my software ) which makes ....whole chart master piece for studies...Overall in many cases In KP sublords changes are there. We are not able to get correct SL so fast. It is a part of maths ....tally and maths cross tally ....which may work or may not work everytime . I tested on my own chart.. 10 july 1964 ....8.55am barsi ...where some softwares give JUP as 10th sl ...some give saturn .....but looking at my jupitor 10 th SL being 5th and 8th lord in 9th house changes in business plenty times....cement .. computer eduction.. investor ...tech analyst in stock market.....consultant in share market..astrologer .and first job of life was july 1984.....that too with telco...where i denied to join ...and done busines of cement for many years. but first job was in july 08 to

dec 08..........thereafter and before no job ... so jupitor 10sl can be taken ok..but venus is in jupitor star....venus in 10th house ....but it is after many debates and cross tally...but still i m not firm on that.MY formula of seeing bhavchalit janmalagna and seeing its fate as per which chart fate is chart's fate is working then dasha phal as per KP... is prooving too good for me.rest one can come to any conclusion after disection and debate and debate ,,, but i request all to stop discussion on this chart....so that we can go for newer one... rajiv Ramani <kadavasalramani Sent: Friday, 25 September, 2009 7:33:13 PMFW: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

 

 

Dear Sri Rajivji, Your last quiz solution is a great

disappointment to me. I expected eagerly another bomb explosion like

previous one. While it became a defused bomb. The expectation was more, because of very

thrilling and unexpected turn was there in the previous quiz. Still I feel

that this chart is not such a poor one with the data furnished by you,

though some impediments were expected due to 8th strong

signification and 3 or 4 planets going to 12th. Lagna and it sub lord are

aspected by their own Lord Mars and the 9th lord with self strength, Venus in

own house in 11th Csl Moon’s star as 2nd lord. Rahu agent of Mars, Moon 11thCSL &

also Venus, in whose star Rahu is placed

cannot make a man so poor and Live with charity food. Moreover, I had

the least idea of using traditional Astrology method, to which I am fairly

coversant also, as it is a forum Meant for K.P.System. Hope you understand

my stand on the issue. I am expecting a good intelligent quiz

from you next. Truly yours, K.S.V.Ramani

 

 

 

 

@gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of rajiv bokariya

25 September 2009 12:03

@gro ups.com

Re: QUIZ

(NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

 

 

dear punitji and all learned members

 

since we had learned tadtional astrology and kp both .

 

IN traditional bhavchalit kundli is as good as cups

 

in KP style punitji had clearly pointed the problems in chart.

 

In traditional. .i am in opinion of astrologer must check all

three charts...four also...moon ,lagna , chalit and bhavchalit.. . by

asking one two simple question to jatak we can know which chart is working on

jatak..and predict the truth.

 

we must correct results by both methods..

 

in tradtional bhavchalit 9as per kundli for windows) .mars going to 2nd

house of chart and 2nd lord going to 12th house of chart with sun

....mercury and ketu in first house in mesh rashi ...(that f mars gives slight

crackness or vimsicial nature. mars saturn opp to each other from 2nd and

8th house .. only moon in 11th house and jupitor in 5th house saving the

jatak.rest all planets are opposite

 

 

MY only points is to get correct results from all methods and ways of

astrology ...which ever u try

 

rajiv

 

 

 

 

Punit Pandey

<punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

@gro ups.com

Friday, 25 September, 2009

11:24:25 AM

Re: QUIZ

(NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

Dear Friends,

 

 

Just a quick correction, Sun is not lagna lord but occupant of the

lagna. It seems that I had written my email in ardhachetanavastha last night -

probably feeling sleepy. As correctly pointed out by Adith ji, Mars is the

lagna lord. Rest of the points mentioned remains same.

 

 

Thanks & Regards,

 

Punit Pandey

 

 

 

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 10:23 AM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>

wrote:

 

 

 

Dear Punit ji,

 

Thanks for your points. I do accept!

 

I said through KP perspective with the Sublord of the respective cusps, no one

(who participated) could not predict it. With this example, the Postmortem can

be useful for our study. Or we have to practice a lot with our KP points

yet.

 

You have given the points on the yogas. Some yogas can be seen in many poor

people's chart as there are many yogas prevailing. Apart from these, there

could be some other points of combinations, aspects etc, has to be seen.

 

 

Further as you said The Lagna Lord is not Sun. It is

Mars which is posited in 3.

Hope there are some confusions in the chart, as KSV Ramani ji has

said, the Asc. lord Mars is posited in 6. and other points like Sat

aspects to 9th and more. Hope the cahrt is different.!! ? Or I am wrong?

 

 

Position of more planets in Asc inflict the Asc., depends on their strength,

qualities. It is common for Tarditional and Kp.

 

I never say the Tarditional is better.KP is always the best. But some traditional points may add

value to our study. this is my point.

 

In this chart, the 10th CSL is Rahu is a strong signficator

of 5,9,12 and 1(feebly 2,7) which are detrimental houses for the

profession. The 2nd CSL is Venus is in its own star and sub and stongly

signfies 1 and

feebly 2 and 7. This 1 is against the monetary prospectus.The 6th CSL is also

signfying 1,5,9,12

through stellar and sub level. This may show his unsteadyness in his career.

The 1 and the 2, 7 signfications may show that his earning through by his own

effort. The aboove points are signficating his state of unsteady in the

profession and poor monetary gain.

 

 

With Regards

 

Adith

 

 

 

 

 

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:21 AM, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT)

com> wrote:

 

 

 

Dear Rajiv ji/ Adith ji and Friends,

 

 

Contrary to what Adith ji has said, I believe that

principles of KP are more useful in this case than the principles of

traditional astrology. See the chart from traditional astrology perspective -

 

 

1. Lagna lord Sun is exalted

 

2. Moon is Vargottama aspected by Jupiter (for the

people who are not from tradional astrology background, I would like to tell

them that well placed Sun and Moon is very important condition for rajyoga,

which seems to be there in this chart)

 

3. Moon is in kendra from Jupiter creating gaja-kesari

yoga

 

4. Moon - Jupiter aspect is also creating rajyoga by

being kendra and kona lord respectively

 

5. Venus - Sun also creating rajyoga by being kendra

and kona lord respectively.

 

6. 9th lord Jupiter aspecting five planets from 5th

kona.

 

 

Can one get better than this? So from

the traditional astrology perspective, everything looks very good (at

least at the surface level).

 

 

If we will see the chart from KP perspective, we can

see that four planets are posited in 1st house negating 2nd, the house of

finance. Jupiter is situated in 5th house being lord of 12th house and 9th

house. Contrary to traditional astrology, KP astrology doesn't regard 5th house

and 9th house any good from financial perspective. 9th house is negation of

10th house, house of profession. 5th house is 11th to 7th which generally is

not good for finance and denotes losing to the competition. Saturn is in 8th

hosue. Only two planets that are out 1, 5, 9, 12 are Mars and Moon.

Unfortunately person did not get mahadasa of either Mars or Moon.

 

 

9th and 12th lord Jupiter in 5th in the Star of

Sun in 1st is the most malefic planet in this chart. No wonder, Jupiter

aspecting Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury and Ketu killing the whole chart.

 

 

This chart reminds us how dangerous can be kona - 1,

5, 9. In tradional astrology these are considered as laxmi sthana :-) and see

the position of poor pujari.

 

 

Thanks & Regards,

 

Punit Pandey

 

 

 

 

 

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>

wrote:

 

 

 

Dear Dhirendra nath Ji,

 

 

Appreciated your few few predictions which came true!

 

 

As Rajiv ji said, such predictions on the general

details are very well denoted only through the traditional Astrology . Kp

is always good for the events forecast , timing of events which are

difficult to ascertain with the other systems. If we have both the

knowledge will be more useful for which we have to read lot and practice.

 

 

We can follow the good points about the importance of

the strength of houses and planets, conjunctions, Aspects and many other points

along with our KP whihc will definitely enrich our knowledge.

 

 

As I was not much confident with the knowledege in

this subject, I did not participate.

 

 

But it sounds you have some exposure which is

appreciated.

 

 

Regards

 

Adith

 

 

 

 

 

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>

wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajivji Sir,Thanks

for guidance.In birth chart of this person there seems unstable source of

earning.Sub lord of 10th cusp is retrograde Rahu and 10th and 11th lord

Saturn is posited in 8th house.This also shows weak sign of stable earning.This

person had tried many times to earn huge money by way of business but could

not do so.He could not get any thing in legacy.source of earning had been

writing and speaking.He should have earned money ,name,and fame during

Saturn- Venus period during 16.02.1987 to 7.04.1990.His father should have

died during 07.04.1990 to 21.03.1991.Again he should have earned money during

20.03.1991 to 19.10.1992.He had done religious work during 03.10.1996 to

17.04.1999 and again he had suffered a great loss from 17.04.1999 to

10.09.2002.He again earned money from 10.09.2002 to 10.07.2005 and from

10.07.2005 to 16.10.2007 he should have earned from writing books.From

16.10.2007 to 12.10.2008 during Mercury- Mars -he has been performing

religious deeds and earning money.One of the brothers and sisters may have

died during this period.On the whole at present he should be facing great

hard ships.Submitted for your perusal and reply.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

--- On Sat, 9/19/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya >

wrote:

 

 

 

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya >

 

Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957

6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

@gro

ups.com

Saturday,

September 19, 2009, 4:43 AM

 

 

 

 

dhirendraji

 

personality is not important..

 

What does this person do...u can say business income

and behaviour earnings from ??

 

physically mentally financially ....comments

 

rajiv

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dhirendra Nath

Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>

To:

@gro ups.com

 

Friday, 18 September, 2009

10:41:31 PM

Re: QUIZ

(NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajiv

Ji,My opinion about this person is as following-This person is

courageous,religiou s person,knowledgeabl e about time,interested in

scientific and technical work,blessed with good brain & wealth.This

person must have knowledge of astrology.blessed with beautiful spouse

having big eyes.This person has tall height,pleasant big eyes,beautiful

face,pronounced nose and wide fore head.This person may be Tantrik(having

knowledge of talismans).Source of earning should be writing and

speaking. This person must have many brothers.This person may suffer

from acidity.Submitted for perusal.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

--- On Fri, 9/18/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya >

wrote:

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya >

QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

@gro ups.com

Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:29 AM

 

 

 

COMMENT ON THIS PERSON AND PERSONALITY

 

 

 

 

 

sudhir

<taurus.sudhir@ gmail.com>

@gro ups.com

Thursday, 17 September,

2009 8:53:24 PM

Quiz

 

 



 

Dear list

 

 

I am looking forward to somebody posting quiz like Rajiv

ji.

 

 

Best regards

 

Sudhir

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Mr.Nair,

I had an interesting conversation with one of your vociferous oponents" of K.P., one going by the ID aplex or something.....you will know for sure his correct ID...

This morning he challenged me to tell him his Birth star,so I explained the K.P. method to him and asked him to try it out...he reploe that he got it wrong even after 3 attemopts...!

There is a K.P.. method to find out whether a person is telling thetruth or lies...the s/l of the IIIrd cusp of the horary chart at the moment if ruled by Sat he is lying...hence I challenged him and asked him to give me his Birth details,TOB,DOB and POB...and he has refuse and simly RUN AWAY... !

It is for you to judge... so much for chalenges... ! !

Yogesh Lajmi.

 

 

 

Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 11:03:07 AMRe: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6..00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

 

 

dear punit Pandey ji Thanks for talking in traditional astrological terms Sure at one Look the chart is promising without deeply delving into it .But knowledge of very basics has to b employed with unfolding dasa s to see the promise in chart see the parivrjya yoga ( so many planets in one house -4 or more planets in House will result a sort of sanyasa type of yoga and here it is happening in lagna itself and lagna represent the person himself ) in lagna ,and dainya parivarthana between Lagna Lord and

3rd L and daridra yoga happening in lagna ( lagna and lagna Lord affcted along marakesh and dhanesh ) along with duryoga ( karmesha and labhesa in dustanas ) and Born in Morning sandhya ( junction between day and nite ) along with dasa s u can work a gr8 deal abt the chart Also being a Nite birth ( as he born within a ghati b4 sunrise and day strt with suryodaya according to Hindu astrology ) the gulika also happening in 7th House and along with rahu ,also in nite births chandra balam is important factor in supporting Horoscopes and Born in krishna paksha even to fruitify the gajakesari in material level the retrogresion of Jup and lack of plaksha bala of moon etc r hindrance ( also jup shud own good houses ) and jup shud not b afflicted is another critiria ( here Nodes and sani afflicting jup ) Pls Note any good yoga to work the status of the planets and afflictions etc is important and it wil giv a strong decrese in the strnght of the yoga and its other side aspects wil b pronounced ( like spiritual ) .Then see the dasa s ,he born in rahu-ketu ( birth dasa will b a pointer as it denotes the karma phala this soul may exprence ) and then got some what good jupiter dasa and after age of 24 he got saturn dasa for 19 yrs and where in prime period life he got best dasa ??also sun is not having any support ( refer suryadi yogas,even according to nadies sun first sees venus ,then merc and then ketu ) who is giver of raja yogas in a chart than moon ( moon is mother and she can take care a person when sun is giving results ) rgrds sunil nair PS-I know this is not a traditional astrology forum and some memebrs has deep aversion against traditional astrology ,so any attacking kind of mails will prevent me frm further answering / discussing .--- On Fri, 25/9/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50@gro ups.comFriday, 25 September, 2009, 12:21 AM

 

Dear Rajiv ji/ Adith ji and Friends,

 

Contrary to what Adith ji has said, I believe that principles of KP are more useful in this case than the principles of traditional astrology. See the chart from traditional astrology perspective -

 

1. Lagna lord Sun is exalted

2. Moon is Vargottama aspected by Jupiter (for the people who are not from tradional astrology background, I would like to tell them that well placed Sun and Moon is very important condition for rajyoga, which seems to be there in this chart)

3. Moon is in kendra from Jupiter creating gaja-kesari yoga

4. Moon - Jupiter aspect is also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively

5. Venus - Sun also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively.

6. 9th lord Jupiter aspecting five planets from 5th kona.

 

Can one get better than this? So from the traditional astrology perspective, everything looks very good (at least at the surface level).

 

If we will see the chart from KP perspective, we can see that four planets are posited in 1st house negating 2nd, the house of finance. Jupiter is situated in 5th house being lord of 12th house and 9th house. Contrary to traditional astrology, KP astrology doesn't regard 5th house and 9th house any good from financial perspective. 9th house is negation of 10th house, house of profession. 5th house is 11th to 7th which generally is not good for finance and denotes losing to the competition. Saturn is in 8th hosue.. Only two planets that are out 1, 5, 9, 12 are Mars and Moon. Unfortunately person did not get mahadasa of either Mars or Moon.

 

9th and 12th lord Jupiter in 5th in the Star of Sun in 1st is the most malefic planet in this chart. No wonder, Jupiter aspecting Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury and Ketu killing the whole chart.

 

This chart reminds us how dangerous can be kona - 1, 5, 9. In tradional astrology these are considered as laxmi sthana :-) and see the position of poor pujari.

 

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear Dhirendra nath Ji,

 

Appreciated your few few predictions which came true!

 

As Rajiv ji said, such predictions on the general details are very well denoted only through the traditional Astrology . Kp is always good for the events forecast , timing of events which are difficult to ascertain with the other systems. If we have both the knowledge will be more useful for which we have to read lot and practice.

 

We can follow the good points about the importance of the strength of houses and planets, conjunctions, Aspects and many other points along with our KP whihc will definitely enrich our knowledge.

 

As I was not much confident with the knowledege in this subject, I did not participate.

 

But it sounds you have some exposure which is appreciated.

 

Regards

Adith

 

 

 

 

 

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajivji Sir,Thanks for guidance.In birth chart of this person there seems unstable source of earning.Sub lord of 10th cusp is retrograde Rahu and 10th and 11th lord Saturn is posited in 8th house.This also shows weak sign of stable earning.This person had tried many times to earn huge money by way of business but could not do so.He could not get any thing in legacy.source of earning had been writing and speaking.He should have earned money ,name,and fame during Saturn- Venus period during 16.02.1987 to 7.04.1990.His father should have died during 07.04.1990 to 21.03.1991.Again he should have earned money during 20.03.1991 to 19.10.1992.He had done religious work during 03.10.1996 to 17.04.1999 and again he had suffered a great loss from 17.04.1999 to 10.09.2002.He again earned money from 10.09.2002 to 10.07.2005 and from 10.07.2005 to 16.10.2007 he should have earned from writing books.From 16.10.2007 to

12.10.2008 during Mercury- Mars -he has been performing religious deeds and earning money.One of the brothers and sisters may have died during this period.On the whole at present he should be facing great hard ships.Submitted for your perusal and reply.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

--- On Sat, 9/19/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > wrote:

 

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya >

Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

@gro ups.comSaturday, September 19, 2009, 4:43 AM

 

 

 

dhirendraji

personality is not important..

What does this person do...u can say business income and behaviour earnings from ??

physically mentally financially ....comments

rajiv

 

 

 

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>@gro ups.com Friday, 18 September, 2009 10:41:31 PMRe: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajiv Ji,My opinion about this person is as following-This person is courageous,religiou s person,knowledgeabl e about time,interested in scientific and technical work,blessed with good brain & wealth.This person must have knowledge of astrology.blessed with beautiful spouse having big eyes.This person has tall height,pleasant big eyes,beautiful face,pronounced nose and wide fore head.This person may be Tantrik(having knowledge of talismans).Source of earning should be writing and speaking. This person must have many brothers.This person may suffer from acidity.Submitted for perusal.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

--- On Fri, 9/18/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > wrote:

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50@gro ups.comFriday, September 18, 2009, 10:29 AM

 

 

COMMENT ON THIS PERSON AND PERSONALITY

 

 

 

 

sudhir <taurus.sudhir@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comThursday, 17 September, 2009 8:53:24 PM Quiz



Dear list

 

I am looking forward to somebody posting quiz like Rajiv ji.

 

Best regards

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[Guest guest]

dear Yogesh Ji Namaskar thanks for ur post can u tell me my birth star My birth star is known to few KP forumites and i will defenitly post u my details to u in person as i hav aversion for revealing it in grps ( after ur exercise ) horary Numbr in case u want its 121 ( if u required it any way ) rgrds sunil nair PSthis is not to test wheter Kp system is wrong or correct but to proov that if a person is able ,effient every system will b safe in his hands My humble opinion is that astrologer shud not go and challenge others and sure shud not run away too frm showing the merits of his sastra ( here it is astrology irrespectiv of system one uses ) --- On Sun, 27/9/09, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi wrote:Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmiRe: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50To:

Cc: "Sunil Nair" <astro_tellerkeralaSunday, 27 September, 2009, 12:11 PMDear Mr.Nair,

I had an interesting conversation with one of your vociferous oponents" of K.P., one going by the ID aplex or something.....you will know for sure his correct ID...

This morning he challenged me to tell him his Birth star,so I explained the K.P. method to him and asked him to try it out...he reploe that he got it wrong even after 3 attemopts...!

There is a K.P.. method to find out whether a person is telling thetruth or lies...the s/l of the IIIrd cusp of the horary chart at the moment if ruled by Sat he is lying...hence I challenged him and asked him to give me his Birth details,TOB,DOB and POB...and he has refuse and simly RUN AWAY... !

It is for you to judge... so much for chalenges... ! !

Yogesh Lajmi.

 

 

 

Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 11:03:07 AMRe: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6..00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

 

 

 

dear punit Pandey ji Thanks for talking in traditional astrological terms Sure at one Look the chart is promising without deeply delving into it .But knowledge of very basics has to b employed with unfolding dasa s to see the promise in chart see the parivrjya yoga ( so many planets in one house -4 or more planets in House will result a sort of sanyasa type of yoga and here it is happening in lagna itself and lagna represent the person himself ) in lagna ,and

dainya parivarthana between Lagna Lord and

3rd L and daridra yoga happening in lagna ( lagna and lagna Lord affcted along marakesh and dhanesh ) along with duryoga ( karmesha and labhesa in dustanas ) and Born in Morning sandhya ( junction between day and nite ) along with dasa s u can work a gr8 deal abt the chart Also being a Nite birth ( as he born within a ghati b4 sunrise and day strt with suryodaya according to Hindu astrology ) the gulika also happening in 7th House and along with rahu ,also in nite births chandra balam is important factor in supporting Horoscopes and Born in krishna paksha even to fruitify the gajakesari in material level the retrogresion of Jup and lack of plaksha bala of moon etc r hindrance ( also jup shud own good houses ) and jup shud not b afflicted is another critiria ( here Nodes and sani afflicting jup ) Pls Note any good yoga to work the status of the planets and afflictions etc is important and it wil giv a strong decrese in the strnght of the yoga and its other side aspects wil b pronounced ( like spiritual ) .Then see the dasa s ,he born in rahu-ketu ( birth dasa will b a pointer as it denotes the karma phala this soul may exprence ) and then got some what good jupiter dasa and after age of 24 he got saturn dasa for 19 yrs and where in prime period life he got best dasa ??also sun is not having any support ( refer suryadi yogas,even according to nadies sun first sees venus ,then merc and then ketu ) who is giver of raja yogas in a chart than moon ( moon is mother and she can take care a person when sun is giving results ) rgrds sunil nair PS-I know this is not a traditional astrology forum and some memebrs has deep aversion against traditional astrology ,so any attacking kind of mails will prevent me frm further answering / discussing .--- On Fri, 25/9/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50@gro ups.comFriday, 25 September, 2009, 12:21 AM

 

Dear Rajiv ji/ Adith ji and Friends,

 

Contrary to what Adith ji has said, I believe that principles of KP are more useful in this case than the principles of traditional astrology. See the chart from traditional astrology perspective -

 

1. Lagna lord Sun is exalted

2. Moon is Vargottama aspected by Jupiter (for the people who are not from tradional astrology background, I would like to tell them that well placed Sun and Moon is very important condition for rajyoga, which seems to be there in this chart)

3.. Moon is in kendra from Jupiter creating gaja-kesari yoga

4. Moon - Jupiter aspect is also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively

5. Venus - Sun also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively.

6. 9th lord Jupiter aspecting five planets from 5th kona.

 

Can one get better than this? So from the traditional astrology perspective, everything looks very good (at least at the surface level).

 

If we will see the chart from KP perspective, we can see that four planets are posited in 1st house negating 2nd, the house of finance.. Jupiter is situated in 5th house being lord of 12th house and 9th house. Contrary to traditional astrology, KP astrology doesn't regard 5th house and 9th house any good from financial perspective. 9th house is negation of 10th house, house of profession. 5th house is 11th to 7th which generally is not good for finance and denotes losing to the competition. Saturn is in 8th hosue.. Only two planets that are out 1, 5, 9, 12 are Mars and Moon. Unfortunately person did not get mahadasa of either Mars or Moon.

 

9th and 12th lord Jupiter in 5th in the Star of Sun in 1st is the most malefic planet in this chart. No wonder, Jupiter aspecting Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury and Ketu killing the whole chart.

 

This chart reminds us how dangerous can be kona - 1, 5, 9. In tradional astrology these are considered as laxmi sthana :-) and see the position of poor pujari.

 

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear Dhirendra nath Ji,

 

Appreciated your few few predictions which came true!

 

As Rajiv ji said, such predictions on the general details are very well denoted only through the traditional Astrology . Kp is always good for the events forecast , timing of events which are difficult to ascertain with the other systems. If we have both the knowledge will be more useful for which we have to read lot and practice.

 

We can follow the good points about the importance of the strength of houses and planets, conjunctions, Aspects and many other points along with our KP whihc will definitely enrich our knowledge.

 

As I was not much confident with the knowledege in this subject, I did not participate.

 

But it sounds you have some exposure which is appreciated.

 

Regards

Adith

 

 

 

 

 

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajivji Sir,Thanks for guidance.In birth chart of this person there seems unstable source of earning.Sub lord of 10th cusp is retrograde Rahu and 10th and 11th lord Saturn is posited in 8th house.This also shows weak sign of stable earning.This person had tried many times to earn huge money by way of business but could not do so.He could not get any thing in legacy.source of earning had been writing and speaking.He should have earned money ,name,and fame during Saturn- Venus period during 16.02.1987 to 7.04.1990.His father should have died during 07.04.1990 to 21.03.1991.Again he should have earned money during 20.03.1991 to 19.10.1992.He had done religious work during 03.10.1996 to 17.04.1999 and again he had suffered a great loss from 17.04.1999 to 10.09.2002.He again earned money from 10.09.2002 to 10.07.2005 and from 10.07.2005 to 16.10.2007 he should have earned from writing books.From 16.10.2007 to

12.10.2008 during Mercury- Mars -he has been performing religious deeds and earning money.One of the brothers and sisters may have died during this period.On the whole at present he should be facing great hard ships.Submitted for your perusal and reply.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

--- On Sat, 9/19/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > wrote:

 

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya >

Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

@gro ups.comSaturday, September 19, 2009, 4:43 AM

 

 

 

dhirendraji

personality is not important..

What does this person do...u can say business income and behaviour earnings from ??

physically mentally financially ....comments

rajiv

 

 

 

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>@gro ups.com Friday, 18 September, 2009 10:41:31 PMRe: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajiv Ji,My opinion about this person is as following-This person is courageous,religiou s person,knowledgeabl e about time,interested in scientific and technical work,blessed with good brain & wealth.This person must have knowledge of astrology.blessed with beautiful spouse having big eyes.This person has tall height,pleasant big eyes,beautiful face,pronounced nose and wide fore head.This person may be Tantrik(having knowledge of talismans).Source of earning should be writing and speaking. This person must have many brothers.This person may suffer from acidity.Submitted for perusal.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

--- On Fri, 9/18/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > wrote:

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50@gro ups.comFriday, September 18, 2009, 10:29 AM

 

 

COMMENT ON THIS PERSON AND PERSONALITY

 

 

 

 

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Dear Sunil ji/ Lajmi ji,

 

I can see that the challenges are coming out due to some bad experiences in the past. I would request everyone to keep it aside and focus on learning. Anyways, to find out Sunil ji's nakshatra, I checked the RP as follows -

 

27/09/2009

Time: 12:54 PM IST

Place: Agra

 

RP

DL: SUN

ASC: JUP-KET

MON: JUP-VEN

 

As Jupiter is a strong RP, I would say that Jupiter is your Nakshatra lord. Rahu is now a days transiting with Jupiter and hence act as an agent to Jupiter, so Rahu can be another possibility. You seems Jupiterian for sure.

 

Please tell what was your nakshatra.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear Yogesh Ji

Namaskar thanks for ur post

can u tell me my birth star

My birth star is known to few KP forumites and i will defenitly post u my details  to u in person as i hav aversion for revealing it in grps ( after ur exercise )

 horary Numbr in case u want its 121 ( if u required it any way )

 

rgrds sunil nair

PS

this is not to test wheter Kp system is wrong or correct but to proov that  if a person is able ,effient every system will b safe in his hands

My humble opinion is that astrologer shud not go and challenge others and sure shud not run away too frm showing the merits of his sastra ( here it is astrology irrespectiv of system one uses )

--- On Sun, 27/9/09, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi wrote:

Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50 Cc: " Sunil Nair " <astro_tellerkerala

Sunday, 27 September, 2009, 12:11 PM

 

 

Dear Mr.Nair,

                      I had an interesting conversation with one of your vociferous oponents " of K.P., one going by the ID aplex or something.....you will know for sure his correct ID...

                      This morning he challenged me to tell him his Birth star,so I explained the K.P. method to him and asked him to try it out...he reploe that he got it wrong even after 3 attemopts...!

                      There is a K.P.. method to find out whether a person is telling thetruth or lies...the s/l of the IIIrd cusp of the horary chart at the moment if ruled by Sat he is lying...hence I challenged him and asked him to give me his Birth details,TOB,DOB and POB...and he has refuse and simly RUN AWAY... !

                       It is for you to judge... so much for chalenges... ! !

                       Yogesh Lajmi.

                       

 

 

 

Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 11:03:07 AM Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6..00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50 

 

 

 

 

 

dear punit Pandey ji Thanks for talking in traditional astrological terms

Sure at one Look the chart is promising without deeply delving into it .But knowledge of very basics has to b employed with unfolding  dasa s to see the promise in chart

 see the parivrjya yoga ( so many planets in one house -4 or more planets in House will result a sort of sanyasa type of yoga and here it is happening in lagna itself and lagna represent the person himself ) in lagna ,and dainya parivarthana between Lagna Lord and 3rd L and daridra yoga happening in lagna ( lagna and lagna Lord affcted along marakesh and dhanesh ) along with duryoga ( karmesha and labhesa in dustanas ) and Born in Morning sandhya ( junction between day and nite )  along with dasa s u can work a gr8 deal abt the chart

Also being a Nite birth ( as he born within a ghati b4 sunrise and day strt with suryodaya according to Hindu astrology  ) the gulika also happening in 7th House and along with rahu ,also in nite births chandra balam is important factor in supporting Horoscopes and Born in  krishna paksha

even to fruitify the gajakesari in material level the retrogresion of Jup and lack of plaksha bala of moon etc r hindrance ( also jup shud own good houses ) and jup shud not b afflicted is another critiria ( here Nodes and sani afflicting jup )

Pls Note any good yoga to work the status of the planets and afflictions etc is important and it  wil giv a strong decrese in the strnght of the yoga and its other side aspects wil b pronounced ( like spiritual )  .

Then  see the dasa s ,he born in rahu-ketu ( birth dasa will b a pointer as it denotes the karma phala this soul may exprence ) and then got some what good jupiter dasa and after age of 24 he got saturn dasa for 19 yrs and where in prime period life he got best dasa ??

also sun is not having any support ( refer suryadi yogas,even according to nadies sun first sees venus ,then merc and then ketu  ) who is giver of raja yogas in a chart than moon ( moon is mother and she can take care a person when sun is giving results )

rgrds sunil nair PS-I know this is not a traditional astrology forum and some memebrs has deep aversion against  traditional astrology ,so any attacking kind of mails will prevent me frm further answering / discussing .

 

--- On Fri, 25/9/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

 

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50@gro ups.comFriday, 25 September, 2009, 12:21 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Rajiv ji/ Adith ji and Friends,

 

Contrary to what Adith ji has said, I believe that principles of KP are more useful in this case than the principles of traditional astrology. See the chart from traditional astrology perspective -

 

1. Lagna lord Sun is exalted

2. Moon is Vargottama aspected by Jupiter (for the people who are not from tradional astrology background, I would like to tell them that well placed Sun and Moon is very important condition for rajyoga, which seems to be there in this chart)

3.. Moon is in kendra from Jupiter creating gaja-kesari yoga

4. Moon - Jupiter aspect is also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively

5. Venus - Sun also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively.

6. 9th lord Jupiter aspecting five planets from 5th kona.

 

Can one get better than this? So from the traditional astrology perspective, everything looks very good (at least at the surface level).

 

If we will see the chart from KP perspective, we can see that four planets are posited in 1st house negating 2nd, the house of finance.. Jupiter is situated in 5th house being lord of 12th house and 9th house. Contrary to traditional astrology, KP astrology doesn't regard 5th house and 9th house any good from financial perspective. 9th house is negation of 10th house, house of profession. 5th house is 11th to 7th which generally is not good for finance and denotes losing to the competition. Saturn is in 8th hosue.. Only two planets that are out 1, 5, 9, 12 are Mars and Moon. Unfortunately person did not get mahadasa of either Mars or Moon.

 

9th and 12th lord Jupiter in 5th in the Star of Sun in 1st is the most malefic planet in this chart. No wonder, Jupiter aspecting Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury and Ketu killing the whole chart.

 

This chart reminds us how dangerous can be kona - 1, 5, 9. In tradional astrology these are considered as laxmi sthana :-) and see the position of poor pujari.

 

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Dhirendra nath Ji,

 

Appreciated your few few predictions which came true!

 

As Rajiv ji said, such predictions on the general details are very well denoted only through the traditional Astrology . Kp is always good for the events forecast , timing of events which are difficult to ascertain with the other systems. If we have both the knowledge will be more useful for which we have to read lot and practice.

 

We can follow the good points about the importance of the strength of houses and planets, conjunctions, Aspects and many other points along with our KP whihc will definitely enrich our knowledge.

 

As I was not much confident with the knowledege in this subject, I did not participate.

 

But it sounds you have some exposure which is appreciated.

 

Regards

Adith

 

 

 

 

 

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajivji Sir,Thanks for guidance.In birth chart of this person there seems unstable source of earning.Sub lord of 10th cusp is retrograde Rahu and 10th and 11th lord Saturn is posited in 8th house.This also shows weak sign of stable earning.This person had tried many times to earn huge money by way of business but could not do so.He could not get any thing in legacy.source of earning had been writing and speaking.He should have earned money ,name,and fame during Saturn- Venus period during 16.02.1987 to 7.04.1990.His father should have died during 07.04.1990 to 21.03.1991.Again he should have earned money during 20.03.1991 to 19.10.1992.He had done religious work during 03.10.1996 to 17.04.1999 and again he had suffered a great loss from 17.04.1999 to 10.09.2002.He again earned money from 10.09.2002 to 10.07.2005 and from 10.07.2005 to 16.10.2007 he should have earned from writing books.From 16.10.2007 to 12.10.2008 during Mercury- Mars -he has been performing religious deeds and earning money.One of the brothers and sisters may have died during this period.On the whole at present he should be facing great hard ships.Submitted for your perusal and reply.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 --- On Sat, 9/19/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > wrote:

 

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya >

Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

@gro ups.comSaturday, September 19, 2009, 4:43 AM

 

 

 

 

dhirendraji

personality is not important..

What does this person do...u can say business income and behaviour earnings from ??

physically mentally financially ....comments

rajiv

 

 

 

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>@gro ups.com Friday, 18 September, 2009 10:41:31 PMRe: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajiv Ji,My opinion about this person is as following-This person is courageous,religiou s person,knowledgeabl e about time,interested in scientific and technical work,blessed with good brain & wealth.This person must have knowledge of astrology.blessed with beautiful spouse having big eyes.This person has tall height,pleasant big eyes,beautiful face,pronounced nose and wide fore head.This person may be Tantrik(having knowledge of talismans).Source of earning should be writing and speaking. This person must have many brothers.This person may suffer from acidity.Submitted for perusal.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 --- On Fri, 9/18/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > wrote:

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50@gro ups.com

Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:29 AM

 

 

 

COMMENT ON THIS PERSON AND PERSONALITY 

 

 

 

 

sudhir <taurus.sudhir@ gmail.com>@gro ups.com

Thursday, 17 September, 2009 8:53:24 PM Quiz 



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dear punitji,

it must be Moola in Sagg.

-sunil gondhalekar

On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sunil ji/ Lajmi ji,

 

I can see that the challenges are coming out due to some bad experiences in the past. I would request everyone to keep it aside and focus on learning. Anyways, to find out Sunil ji's nakshatra, I checked the RP as follows -

 

27/09/2009

Time: 12:54 PM IST

Place: Agra

 

RP

DL: SUN

ASC: JUP-KET

MON: JUP-VEN

 

As Jupiter is a strong RP, I would say that Jupiter is your Nakshatra lord. Rahu is now a days transiting with Jupiter and hence act as an agent to Jupiter, so Rahu can be another possibility. You seems Jupiterian for sure.

 

Please tell what was your nakshatra.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

 

 

 

On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear Yogesh Ji

Namaskar thanks for ur post

can u tell me my birth star

My birth star is known to few KP forumites and i will defenitly post u my details  to u in person as i hav aversion for revealing it in grps ( after ur exercise )

 horary Numbr in case u want its 121 ( if u required it any way )

 

rgrds sunil nair

PS

this is not to test wheter Kp system is wrong or correct but to proov that  if a person is able ,effient every system will b safe in his hands

My humble opinion is that astrologer shud not go and challenge others and sure shud not run away too frm showing the merits of his sastra ( here it is astrology irrespectiv of system one uses )

--- On Sun, 27/9/09, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi wrote:

Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50 Cc: " Sunil Nair " <astro_tellerkerala

Sunday, 27 September, 2009, 12:11 PM

 

 

Dear Mr.Nair,

                      I had an interesting conversation with one of your vociferous oponents " of K.P., one going by the ID aplex or something.....you will know for sure his correct ID...

                      This morning he challenged me to tell him his Birth star,so I explained the K.P. method to him and asked him to try it out...he reploe that he got it wrong even after 3 attemopts...!

                      There is a K.P.. method to find out whether a person is telling thetruth or lies...the s/l of the IIIrd cusp of the horary chart at the moment if ruled by Sat he is lying...hence I challenged him and asked him to give me his Birth details,TOB,DOB and POB...and he has refuse and simly RUN AWAY... !

                       It is for you to judge... so much for chalenges... ! !

                       Yogesh Lajmi.

                       

 

 

 

Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 11:03:07 AM Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6..00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50 

 

 

 

 

 

dear punit Pandey ji Thanks for talking in traditional astrological terms

Sure at one Look the chart is promising without deeply delving into it .But knowledge of very basics has to b employed with unfolding  dasa s to see the promise in chart

 see the parivrjya yoga ( so many planets in one house -4 or more planets in House will result a sort of sanyasa type of yoga and here it is happening in lagna itself and lagna represent the person himself ) in lagna ,and dainya parivarthana between Lagna Lord and 3rd L and daridra yoga happening in lagna ( lagna and lagna Lord affcted along marakesh and dhanesh ) along with duryoga ( karmesha and labhesa in dustanas ) and Born in Morning sandhya ( junction between day and nite )  along with dasa s u can work a gr8 deal abt the chart

Also being a Nite birth ( as he born within a ghati b4 sunrise and day strt with suryodaya according to Hindu astrology  ) the gulika also happening in 7th House and along with rahu ,also in nite births chandra balam is important factor in supporting Horoscopes and Born in  krishna paksha

even to fruitify the gajakesari in material level the retrogresion of Jup and lack of plaksha bala of moon etc r hindrance ( also jup shud own good houses ) and jup shud not b afflicted is another critiria ( here Nodes and sani afflicting jup )

Pls Note any good yoga to work the status of the planets and afflictions etc is important and it  wil giv a strong decrese in the strnght of the yoga and its other side aspects wil b pronounced ( like spiritual )  .

Then  see the dasa s ,he born in rahu-ketu ( birth dasa will b a pointer as it denotes the karma phala this soul may exprence ) and then got some what good jupiter dasa and after age of 24 he got saturn dasa for 19 yrs and where in prime period life he got best dasa ??

also sun is not having any support ( refer suryadi yogas,even according to nadies sun first sees venus ,then merc and then ketu  ) who is giver of raja yogas in a chart than moon ( moon is mother and she can take care a person when sun is giving results )

rgrds sunil nair PS-I know this is not a traditional astrology forum and some memebrs has deep aversion against  traditional astrology ,so any attacking kind of mails will prevent me frm further answering / discussing .

 

--- On Fri, 25/9/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

 

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50@gro ups.comFriday, 25 September, 2009, 12:21 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Rajiv ji/ Adith ji and Friends,

 

Contrary to what Adith ji has said, I believe that principles of KP are more useful in this case than the principles of traditional astrology. See the chart from traditional astrology perspective -

 

1. Lagna lord Sun is exalted

2. Moon is Vargottama aspected by Jupiter (for the people who are not from tradional astrology background, I would like to tell them that well placed Sun and Moon is very important condition for rajyoga, which seems to be there in this chart)

3.. Moon is in kendra from Jupiter creating gaja-kesari yoga

4. Moon - Jupiter aspect is also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively

5. Venus - Sun also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively.

6. 9th lord Jupiter aspecting five planets from 5th kona.

 

Can one get better than this? So from the traditional astrology perspective, everything looks very good (at least at the surface level).

 

If we will see the chart from KP perspective, we can see that four planets are posited in 1st house negating 2nd, the house of finance.. Jupiter is situated in 5th house being lord of 12th house and 9th house. Contrary to traditional astrology, KP astrology doesn't regard 5th house and 9th house any good from financial perspective. 9th house is negation of 10th house, house of profession. 5th house is 11th to 7th which generally is not good for finance and denotes losing to the competition. Saturn is in 8th hosue.. Only two planets that are out 1, 5, 9, 12 are Mars and Moon. Unfortunately person did not get mahadasa of either Mars or Moon.

 

9th and 12th lord Jupiter in 5th in the Star of Sun in 1st is the most malefic planet in this chart. No wonder, Jupiter aspecting Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury and Ketu killing the whole chart.

 

This chart reminds us how dangerous can be kona - 1, 5, 9. In tradional astrology these are considered as laxmi sthana :-) and see the position of poor pujari.

 

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Dhirendra nath Ji,

 

Appreciated your few few predictions which came true!

 

As Rajiv ji said, such predictions on the general details are very well denoted only through the traditional Astrology . Kp is always good for the events forecast , timing of events which are difficult to ascertain with the other systems. If we have both the knowledge will be more useful for which we have to read lot and practice.

 

We can follow the good points about the importance of the strength of houses and planets, conjunctions, Aspects and many other points along with our KP whihc will definitely enrich our knowledge.

 

As I was not much confident with the knowledege in this subject, I did not participate.

 

But it sounds you have some exposure which is appreciated.

 

Regards

Adith

 

 

 

 

 

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajivji Sir,Thanks for guidance.In birth chart of this person there seems unstable source of earning.Sub lord of 10th cusp is retrograde Rahu and 10th and 11th lord Saturn is posited in 8th house.This also shows weak sign of stable earning.This person had tried many times to earn huge money by way of business but could not do so.He could not get any thing in legacy.source of earning had been writing and speaking.He should have earned money ,name,and fame during Saturn- Venus period during 16.02.1987 to 7.04.1990.His father should have died during 07.04.1990 to 21.03.1991.Again he should have earned money during 20.03.1991 to 19.10.1992.He had done religious work during 03.10.1996 to 17.04.1999 and again he had suffered a great loss from 17.04.1999 to 10.09.2002.He again earned money from 10.09.2002 to 10.07.2005 and from 10.07.2005 to 16.10.2007 he should have earned from writing books.From 16.10.2007 to 12.10.2008 during Mercury- Mars -he has been performing religious deeds and earning money.One of the brothers and sisters may have died during this period.On the whole at present he should be facing great hard ships.Submitted for your perusal and reply.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 --- On Sat, 9/19/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > wrote:

 

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya >

Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

@gro ups.comSaturday, September 19, 2009, 4:43 AM

 

 

 

 

dhirendraji

personality is not important..

What does this person do...u can say business income and behaviour earnings from ??

physically mentally financially ....comments

rajiv

 

 

 

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>@gro ups.com Friday, 18 September, 2009 10:41:31 PMRe: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajiv Ji,My opinion about this person is as following-This person is courageous,religiou s person,knowledgeabl e about time,interested in scientific and technical work,blessed with good brain & wealth.This person must have knowledge of astrology.blessed with beautiful spouse having big eyes.This person has tall height,pleasant big eyes,beautiful face,pronounced nose and wide fore head.This person may be Tantrik(having knowledge of talismans).Source of earning should be writing and speaking. This person must have many brothers.This person may suffer from acidity.Submitted for perusal.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 --- On Fri, 9/18/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > wrote:

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50@gro ups.com

Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:29 AM

 

 

 

COMMENT ON THIS PERSON AND PERSONALITY 

 

 

 

 

sudhir <taurus.sudhir@ gmail.com>@gro ups.com

Thursday, 17 September, 2009 8:53:24 PM Quiz 



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Dear Sunil ji

 

My answer would be mercury sign Jupiter nakshatra

i.e. Punarvasu. OR Jupiter sign mercury nakshatra i.e. Revati.

 

Regards,

Ajoy

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Punit Pandey

Sunday, September 27, 2009

1:07 PM

 

Re: QUIZ

(NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sunil ji/ Lajmi ji,

 

 

 

 

 

I can see that the challenges are coming out due to some bad

experiences in the past. I would request everyone to keep it aside and focus on

learning. Anyways, to find out Sunil ji's nakshatra, I checked the RP as

follows -

 

 

 

 

 

27/09/2009

 

 

Time: 12:54 PM IST

 

 

Place: Agra

 

 

 

 

 

RP

 

 

DL: SUN

 

 

ASC: JUP-KET

 

 

MON: JUP-VEN

 

 

 

 

 

As Jupiter is a strong RP, I would say that Jupiter is your Nakshatra

lord. Rahu is now a days transiting with Jupiter and hence act as an agent to

Jupiter, so Rahu can be another possibility. You seems Jupiterian for sure.

 

 

 

 

 

Please tell what was your nakshatra.

 

 

 

Thanks & Regards,

 

Punit Pandey

 

 

 

 

On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala (AT) (DOT) co.in>

wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear Yogesh Ji

 

Namaskar

 

thanks for ur post

 

can u tell me my birth star

 

My birth star is known to few KP forumites and i will defenitly post u my

details to u in person as i hav aversion for revealing it in grps (

after ur exercise )

 

horary Numbr in case u want its 121 ( if u required it any way )

 

 

 

rgrds sunil nair

 

PS

 

this is not to test wheter Kp system is wrong or correct but to proov

that if a person is able ,effient every system will b safe in his hands

 

 

 

My humble opinion is that astrologer shud not go and

challenge others and sure shud not run away too frm showing the merits of his

sastra ( here it is astrology irrespectiv of system one uses )

 

--- On Sun, 27/9/09, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi >

wrote:

 

Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi >

 

 

 

Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

Cc: " Sunil

Nair " <astro_tellerkerala (AT) (DOT) co.in>

Sunday, 27 September, 2009, 12:11 PM

 

 

 

Dear Mr.Nair,

 

 

I had an interesting conversation with one of your

vociferous oponents " of K.P., one going by the ID aplex or something.....you

will know for sure his correct ID...

 

 

This

morning he challenged me to tell him his Birth star,so I explained the K.P.

method to him and asked him to try it out...he reploe that he got it wrong

even after 3 attemopts...!

 

 

There is a K.P.. method to find out whether a person is telling thetruth or

lies...the s/l of the IIIrd cusp of the horary chart at the moment if ruled

by Sat he is lying...hence I challenged him and asked him to give me his

Birth details,TOB,DOB and POB...and he has refuse and simly RUN AWAY... !

 

 

It is for you to judge... so much for chalenges... ! !

 

 

Yogesh Lajmi.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sunil Nair

<astro_tellerkerala (AT) (DOT) co.in>

 

 

 

 

 

Friday,

September 25, 2009 11:03:07 AM

 

 

Re: QUIZ

(NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6..00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear

punit Pandey ji

 

Thanks for talking in traditional astrological terms

 

Sure at one Look the chart is promising without deeply delving into it .But

knowledge of very basics has to b employed with unfolding dasa s to

see the promise in chart

 

see the parivrjya yoga ( so many planets in one house -4 or more

planets in House will result a sort of sanyasa type of yoga and here it is

happening in lagna itself and lagna represent the person himself ) in lagna

,and dainya parivarthana between Lagna Lord and 3rd L and daridra yoga

happening in lagna ( lagna and lagna Lord affcted along marakesh and

dhanesh ) along with duryoga ( karmesha and labhesa in dustanas ) and Born

in Morning sandhya ( junction between day and nite ) along with dasa

s u can work a gr8 deal abt the chart

 

Also being a Nite birth ( as he born within a ghati b4 sunrise and day strt

with suryodaya according to Hindu astrology ) the gulika also

happening in 7th House and along with rahu ,also in nite births chandra

balam is important factor in supporting Horoscopes and Born in

krishna paksha

 

even to fruitify the gajakesari in material level the retrogresion of Jup

and lack of plaksha bala of moon etc r hindrance ( also jup shud own good

houses ) and jup shud not b afflicted is another critiria ( here Nodes and

sani afflicting jup )

 

Pls Note any good yoga to work the status of the planets and afflictions

etc is important and it wil giv a strong decrese in the strnght of

the yoga and its other side aspects wil b pronounced ( like spiritual

) .

 

Then see the dasa s ,he born in rahu-ketu ( birth dasa will b a

pointer as it denotes the karma phala this soul may exprence ) and then got

some what good jupiter dasa and after age of 24 he got saturn dasa for 19

yrs and where in prime period life he got best dasa ??

 

also sun is not having any support ( refer suryadi yogas,even according to

nadies sun first sees venus ,then merc and then ketu ) who is giver

of raja yogas in a chart than moon ( moon is mother and she can take care a

person when sun is giving results )

 

rgrds sunil nair

 

PS-

 

I know this is not a traditional astrology forum and some memebrs has deep

aversion against traditional astrology ,so any attacking kind of

mails will prevent me frm further answering / discussing .

 

 

 

--- On Fri, 25/9/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

wrote:

 

 

 

 

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

 

 

Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957

6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

@gro ups.com

 

Friday, 25 September, 2009, 12:21 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rajiv ji/ Adith ji and Friends,

 

 

 

 

 

Contrary to what Adith ji has said, I believe that

principles of KP are more useful in this case than the principles of

traditional astrology. See the chart from traditional astrology perspective

-

 

 

 

 

 

1. Lagna lord Sun is exalted

 

 

2. Moon is Vargottama aspected by Jupiter (for the

people who are not from tradional astrology background, I would like to

tell them that well placed Sun and Moon is very important condition for

rajyoga, which seems to be there in this chart)

 

 

3.. Moon is in kendra from Jupiter creating

gaja-kesari yoga

 

 

4. Moon - Jupiter aspect is also creating rajyoga

by being kendra and kona lord respectively

 

 

5. Venus - Sun also creating rajyoga by being

kendra and kona lord respectively.

 

 

6. 9th lord Jupiter aspecting five planets from

5th kona.

 

 

 

 

 

Can one get better than this? So from

the traditional astrology perspective, everything looks very good (at

least at the surface level).

 

 

 

 

 

If we will see the chart from KP perspective, we

can see that four planets are posited in 1st house negating 2nd, the house

of finance.. Jupiter is situated in 5th house being lord of 12th house and

9th house. Contrary to traditional astrology, KP astrology doesn't regard

5th house and 9th house any good from financial perspective. 9th house is

negation of 10th house, house of profession. 5th house is 11th to 7th which

generally is not good for finance and denotes losing to the competition.

Saturn is in 8th hosue.. Only two planets that are out 1, 5, 9, 12 are Mars

and Moon. Unfortunately person did not get mahadasa of either Mars or Moon.

 

 

 

 

 

9th and 12th lord Jupiter in 5th in the Star

of Sun in 1st is the most malefic planet in this chart. No wonder, Jupiter

aspecting Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury and Ketu killing the whole chart.

 

 

 

 

 

This chart reminds us how dangerous can be kona -

1, 5, 9. In tradional astrology these are considered as laxmi sthana :-)

and see the position of poor pujari.

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks & Regards,

 

Punit Pandey

 

 

 

 

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@

gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Dhirendra nath

Ji,

 

 

 

 

 

Appreciated your few

few predictions which came true!

 

 

 

 

 

As Rajiv ji said,

such predictions on the general details are very well denoted only

through the traditional Astrology . Kp is always good for the events

forecast , timing of events which are difficult to ascertain with

the other systems. If we have both the knowledge will be more useful

for which we have to read lot and practice.

 

 

 

 

 

We can follow the

good points about the importance of the strength of houses and planets,

conjunctions, Aspects and many other points along with our KP whihc will

definitely enrich our knowledge.

 

 

 

 

 

As I was not much

confident with the knowledege in this subject, I did not participate.

 

 

 

 

 

But it sounds you

have some exposure which is appreciated.

 

 

 

 

 

Regards

 

 

Adith

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009

at 10:52 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>

wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajivji Sir,Thanks

for guidance.In birth chart of this person there seems unstable source of

earning.Sub lord of 10th cusp is retrograde Rahu and 10th and 11th lord

Saturn is posited in 8th house.This also shows weak sign of stable

earning.This person had tried many times to earn huge money by way of

business but could not do so.He could not get any thing in legacy.source

of earning had been writing and speaking.He should have earned money

,name,and fame during Saturn- Venus period during 16.02.1987 to

7.04.1990.His father should have died during 07.04.1990 to

21.03.1991.Again he should have earned money during 20.03.1991 to

19.10.1992.He had done religious work during 03.10.1996 to 17.04.1999 and

again he had suffered a great loss from 17.04.1999 to 10.09.2002.He again

earned money from 10.09.2002 to 10.07.2005 and from 10.07.2005 to

16.10.2007 he should have earned from writing books.From 16.10.2007 to

12.10.2008 during Mercury- Mars -he has been performing religious deeds

and earning money.One of the brothers and sisters may have died during

this period.On the whole at present he should be facing great hard

ships.Submitted for your perusal and reply.With regards,

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Sat, 9/19/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya >

wrote:

 

 

 

 

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya >

 

 

Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL

1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

@gro ups.com

 

Saturday,

September 19, 2009, 4:43 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

dhirendraji

 

 

personality is not important..

 

 

What does this person do...u can say business

income and behaviour earnings from ??

 

 

physically mentally financially ....comments

 

 

rajiv

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>

 

To:

@gro ups.com

 

 

 

Friday, 18 September,

2009 10:41:31 PM

Re:

QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajiv Ji,My

opinion about this person is as following-This person is

courageous,religiou s person,knowledgeabl e about time,interested in

scientific and technical work,blessed with good brain & wealth.This

person must have knowledge of astrology.blessed with beautiful spouse

having big eyes.This person has tall height,pleasant big eyes,beautiful

face,pronounced nose and wide fore head.This person may be

Tantrik(having knowledge of talismans).Source of earning should be

writing and speaking. This person must have many brothers.This

person may suffer from acidity.Submitted for perusal.With regards,

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Fri, 9/18/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya >

wrote:

 

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya >

QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

@gro ups.com

Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:29 AM

 

 

 

 

 

COMMENT ON THIS PERSON AND PERSONALITY

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

sudhir <taurus.sudhir@ gmail.com>

@gro ups.com

Thursday, 17

September, 2009 8:53:24 PM

Quiz

 

 

 



 

 

Dear list

 

 

 

 

 

I am looking forward to somebody posting quiz like

Rajiv ji.

 

 

 

 

 

Best regards

 

 

Sudhir

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Punit pandey JiNamaskar Thanks for trying the quiz There was No challenge frm my side and i dont hav direct or indirect relation with Names shri Yogesh ji mentions except once i interacted with the said name in one grp . i always try to giv equal importance to all systems esp what ever sprouted in bharath desh and my exprnce says each has its own value and merits but when some one comes and out of utter ignorence strted creating and fabricating some thing is beyond tolerence level and they r simply imagining some thing which is not true .we shud not keep on trumpetting our system Like some missionaries who

even without provocation goes to other ppl and call them son of serpent or devil worshipper etc etc ,i hate such kind of evangelical attitude let any system prevails over other system based on its own merits who in the world can suppress truth for long time any way i will post my results once shri yogesh ji givn his reply and in case other memebrs also take up thanks for spending ur valuable time with deep regrds sunil nair --- On Sun, 27/9/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:Punit Pandey <punitpRe: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50 Date: Sunday, 27 September, 2009, 1:07 PM

 

 

Dear Sunil ji/ Lajmi ji,

 

I can see that the challenges are coming out due to some bad experiences in the past. I would request everyone to keep it aside and focus on learning.. Anyways, to find out Sunil ji's nakshatra, I checked the RP as follows -

 

27/09/2009

Time: 12:54 PM IST

Place: Agra

 

RP

DL: SUN

ASC: JUP-KET

MON: JUP-VEN

 

As Jupiter is a strong RP, I would say that Jupiter is your Nakshatra lord. Rahu is now a days transiting with Jupiter and hence act as an agent to Jupiter, so Rahu can be another possibility. You seems Jupiterian for sure.

 

Please tell what was your nakshatra.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear Yogesh Ji

Namaskar thanks for ur post

can u tell me my birth star

My birth star is known to few KP forumites and i will defenitly post u my details to u in person as i hav aversion for revealing it in grps ( after ur exercise )

horary Numbr in case u want its 121 ( if u required it any way )

 

rgrds sunil nair

PS

this is not to test wheter Kp system is wrong or correct but to proov that if a person is able ,effient every system will b safe in his hands

My humble opinion is that astrologer shud not go and challenge others and sure shud not run away too frm showing the merits of his sastra ( here it is astrology irrespectiv of system one uses )

--- On Sun, 27/9/09, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:

Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50@gro ups.comCc: "Sunil Nair" <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in>

Sunday, 27 September, 2009, 12:11 PM

 

 

Dear Mr.Nair,

I had an interesting conversation with one of your vociferous oponents" of K.P., one going by the ID aplex or something... ..you will know for sure his correct ID...

This morning he challenged me to tell him his Birth star,so I explained the K.P. method to him and asked him to try it out....he reploe that he got it wrong even after 3 attemopts... !

There is a K.P.. method to find out whether a person is telling thetruth or lies...the s/l of the IIIrd cusp of the horary chart at the moment if ruled by Sat he is lying...hence I challenged him and asked him to give me his Birth details,TOB, DOB and POB...and he has refuse and simly RUN AWAY... !

It is for you to judge... so much for chalenges... ! !

Yogesh Lajmi.

 

 

 

Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in> @gro ups.comFriday, September 25, 2009 11:03:07 AM Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6..00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

 

 

 

dear punit Pandey ji Thanks for talking in traditional astrological terms

Sure at one Look the chart is promising without deeply delving into it .But knowledge of very basics has to b employed with unfolding dasa s to see the promise in chart

see the parivrjya yoga ( so many planets in one house -4 or more planets in House will result a sort of sanyasa type of yoga and here it is happening in lagna itself and lagna represent the person himself ) in lagna ,and dainya parivarthana between Lagna Lord and 3rd L and daridra yoga happening in lagna ( lagna and lagna Lord affcted along marakesh and dhanesh ) along with duryoga ( karmesha and labhesa in dustanas ) and Born in Morning sandhya ( junction between day and nite ) along with dasa s u can work a gr8 deal abt the chart

Also being a Nite birth ( as he born within a ghati b4 sunrise and day strt with suryodaya according to Hindu astrology ) the gulika also happening in 7th House and along with rahu ,also in nite births chandra balam is important factor in supporting Horoscopes and Born in krishna paksha

even to fruitify the gajakesari in material level the retrogresion of Jup and lack of plaksha bala of moon etc r hindrance ( also jup shud own good houses ) and jup shud not b afflicted is another critiria ( here Nodes and sani afflicting jup )

Pls Note any good yoga to work the status of the planets and afflictions etc is important and it wil giv a strong decrese in the strnght of the yoga and its other side aspects wil b pronounced ( like spiritual ) .

Then see the dasa s ,he born in rahu-ketu ( birth dasa will b a pointer as it denotes the karma phala this soul may exprence ) and then got some what good jupiter dasa and after age of 24 he got saturn dasa for 19 yrs and where in prime period life he got best dasa ??

also sun is not having any support ( refer suryadi yogas,even according to nadies sun first sees venus ,then merc and then ketu ) who is giver of raja yogas in a chart than moon ( moon is mother and she can take care a person when sun is giving results )

rgrds sunil nair PS-I know this is not a traditional astrology forum and some memebrs has deep aversion against traditional astrology ,so any attacking kind of mails will prevent me frm further answering / discussing .

 

--- On Fri, 25/9/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

 

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50@gro ups.comFriday, 25 September, 2009, 12:21 AM

 

 

 

Dear Rajiv ji/ Adith ji and Friends,

 

Contrary to what Adith ji has said, I believe that principles of KP are more useful in this case than the principles of traditional astrology. See the chart from traditional astrology perspective -

 

1. Lagna lord Sun is exalted

2. Moon is Vargottama aspected by Jupiter (for the people who are not from tradional astrology background, I would like to tell them that well placed Sun and Moon is very important condition for rajyoga, which seems to be there in this chart)

3.. Moon is in kendra from Jupiter creating gaja-kesari yoga

4. Moon - Jupiter aspect is also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively

5. Venus - Sun also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively.

6. 9th lord Jupiter aspecting five planets from 5th kona.

 

Can one get better than this? So from the traditional astrology perspective, everything looks very good (at least at the surface level).

 

If we will see the chart from KP perspective, we can see that four planets are posited in 1st house negating 2nd, the house of finance.. Jupiter is situated in 5th house being lord of 12th house and 9th house. Contrary to traditional astrology, KP astrology doesn't regard 5th house and 9th house any good from financial perspective. 9th house is negation of 10th house, house of profession. 5th house is 11th to 7th which generally is not good for finance and denotes losing to the competition. Saturn is in 8th hosue.. Only two planets that are out 1, 5, 9, 12 are Mars and Moon. Unfortunately person did not get mahadasa of either Mars or Moon.

 

9th and 12th lord Jupiter in 5th in the Star of Sun in 1st is the most malefic planet in this chart. No wonder, Jupiter aspecting Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury and Ketu killing the whole chart.

 

This chart reminds us how dangerous can be kona - 1, 5, 9. In tradional astrology these are considered as laxmi sthana :-) and see the position of poor pujari.

 

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear Dhirendra nath Ji,

 

Appreciated your few few predictions which came true!

 

As Rajiv ji said, such predictions on the general details are very well denoted only through the traditional Astrology . Kp is always good for the events forecast , timing of events which are difficult to ascertain with the other systems. If we have both the knowledge will be more useful for which we have to read lot and practice.

 

We can follow the good points about the importance of the strength of houses and planets, conjunctions, Aspects and many other points along with our KP whihc will definitely enrich our knowledge.

 

As I was not much confident with the knowledege in this subject, I did not participate.

 

But it sounds you have some exposure which is appreciated.

 

Regards

Adith

 

 

 

 

 

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajivji Sir,Thanks for guidance.In birth chart of this person there seems unstable source of earning.Sub lord of 10th cusp is retrograde Rahu and 10th and 11th lord Saturn is posited in 8th house.This also shows weak sign of stable earning.This person had tried many times to earn huge money by way of business but could not do so.He could not get any thing in legacy.source of earning had been writing and speaking.He should have earned money ,name,and fame during Saturn- Venus period during 16.02.1987 to 7.04.1990.His father should have died during 07.04.1990 to 21.03.1991.Again he should have earned money during 20.03.1991 to 19.10.1992.He had done religious work during 03.10.1996 to 17.04.1999 and again he had suffered a great loss from 17.04.1999 to 10.09.2002.He again earned money from 10.09.2002 to 10.07.2005 and from 10.07.2005 to 16.10.2007 he should have earned from writing books.From 16.10.2007 to

12.10.2008 during Mercury- Mars -he has been performing religious deeds and earning money.One of the brothers and sisters may have died during this period.On the whole at present he should be facing great hard ships.Submitted for your perusal and reply.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

--- On Sat, 9/19/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > wrote:

 

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya >

Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

@gro ups.comSaturday, September 19, 2009, 4:43 AM

 

 

 

dhirendraji

personality is not important..

What does this person do...u can say business income and behaviour earnings from ??

physically mentally financially ....comments

rajiv

 

 

 

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>@gro ups.com Friday, 18 September, 2009 10:41:31 PMRe: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajiv Ji,My opinion about this person is as following-This person is courageous,religiou s person,knowledgeabl e about time,interested in scientific and technical work,blessed with good brain & wealth.This person must have knowledge of astrology.blessed with beautiful spouse having big eyes.This person has tall height,pleasant big eyes,beautiful face,pronounced nose and wide fore head.This person may be Tantrik(having knowledge of talismans).Source of earning should be writing and speaking.. This person must have many brothers.This person may suffer from acidity.Submitted for perusal.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

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COMMENT ON THIS PERSON AND PERSONALITY

 

 

 

 

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Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

Dear Sunil ji/ Lajmi ji,

 

I can see that the challenges are coming out due to some bad experiences in the past. I would request everyone to keep it aside and focus on learning. Anyways, to find out Sunil ji's nakshatra, I checked the RP as follows -

 

27/09/2009

Time: 12:54 PM IST

Place: Agra

 

RP

DL: SUN

ASC: JUP-KET

MON: JUP-VEN

 

As Jupiter is a strong RP, I would say that Jupiter is your Nakshatra lord. Rahu is now a days transiting with Jupiter and hence act as an agent to Jupiter, so Rahu can be another possibility. You seems Jupiterian for sure.

 

Please tell what was your nakshatra.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear Yogesh Ji Namaskar thanks for ur post can u tell me my birth star My birth star is known to few KP forumites and i will defenitly post u my details to u in person as i hav aversion for revealing it in grps ( after ur exercise ) horary Numbr in case u want its 121 ( if u required it any way ) rgrds sunil nair PSthis is not to test wheter Kp system is wrong or correct but to proov that if a person is able ,effient every system will b safe in his hands My humble opinion is that astrologer shud not go and challenge others and sure shud not run away too frm showing the merits of his sastra ( here it is astrology irrespectiv of system one uses ) --- On Sun, 27/9/09, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi > wrote:

Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi > Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50 Cc: "Sunil Nair" <astro_tellerkerala (AT) (DOT) co.in>Sunday, 27 September, 2009, 12:11 PM

 

 

Dear Mr.Nair,

I had an interesting conversation with one of your vociferous oponents" of K.P., one going by the ID aplex or something.....you will know for sure his correct ID...

This morning he challenged me to tell him his Birth star,so I explained the K.P. method to him and asked him to try it out...he reploe that he got it wrong even after 3 attemopts...!

There is a K.P.. method to find out whether a person is telling thetruth or lies...the s/l of the IIIrd cusp of the horary chart at the moment if ruled by Sat he is lying...hence I challenged him and asked him to give me his Birth details,TOB,DOB and POB...and he has refuse and simly RUN AWAY... !

It is for you to judge... so much for chalenges... ! !

Yogesh Lajmi.

 

 

 

Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala (AT) (DOT) co.in> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 11:03:07 AM Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6..00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

 

 

 

dear punit Pandey ji Thanks for talking in traditional astrological terms Sure at one Look the chart is promising without deeply delving into it .But knowledge of very basics has to b employed with unfolding dasa s to see the promise in chart see the parivrjya yoga ( so many planets in one house -4 or more planets in House will result a sort of sanyasa type of yoga and here it is happening in lagna itself and lagna represent the person himself ) in lagna ,and dainya parivarthana between Lagna Lord and 3rd L and daridra yoga happening in lagna ( lagna and lagna Lord affcted along marakesh and dhanesh ) along with duryoga ( karmesha and labhesa in dustanas ) and Born in Morning sandhya ( junction between day and nite ) along with dasa s u can work a gr8 deal abt the chart Also being a Nite birth ( as he born within a ghati b4 sunrise and day strt with suryodaya according to Hindu astrology ) the gulika also happening in 7th House and along with rahu ,also in nite births chandra balam is important factor in supporting Horoscopes and Born in krishna paksha even to fruitify the gajakesari in material level the retrogresion of Jup and lack of plaksha bala of moon etc r hindrance ( also jup shud own good houses ) and jup shud not b afflicted is another critiria ( here Nodes and sani afflicting jup ) Pls Note any good yoga to work the status of the planets and afflictions etc is important and it wil giv a strong decrese in the strnght of the yoga and its other side aspects wil b pronounced ( like spiritual ) .Then see the dasa s ,he born in rahu-ketu ( birth dasa will b a pointer as it denotes the karma phala this soul may exprence ) and then got some what good jupiter dasa and after age of 24 he got saturn dasa for 19 yrs and where in prime period life he got best dasa ??also sun is not having any support ( refer suryadi yogas,even according to nadies sun first sees venus ,then merc and then ketu ) who is giver of raja yogas in a chart than moon ( moon is mother and she can take care a person when sun is giving results ) rgrds sunil nair PS-I know this is not a traditional astrology forum and some memebrs has deep aversion against traditional astrology ,so any attacking kind of mails will prevent me frm further answering / discussing .

--- On Fri, 25/9/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

 

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50@gro ups.comFriday, 25 September, 2009, 12:21 AM

 

 

 

Dear Rajiv ji/ Adith ji and Friends,

 

Contrary to what Adith ji has said, I believe that principles of KP are more useful in this case than the principles of traditional astrology. See the chart from traditional astrology perspective -

 

1. Lagna lord Sun is exalted

2. Moon is Vargottama aspected by Jupiter (for the people who are not from tradional astrology background, I would like to tell them that well placed Sun and Moon is very important condition for rajyoga, which seems to be there in this chart)

3.. Moon is in kendra from Jupiter creating gaja-kesari yoga

4. Moon - Jupiter aspect is also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively

5. Venus - Sun also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively.

6. 9th lord Jupiter aspecting five planets from 5th kona.

 

Can one get better than this? So from the traditional astrology perspective, everything looks very good (at least at the surface level).

 

If we will see the chart from KP perspective, we can see that four planets are posited in 1st house negating 2nd, the house of finance.. Jupiter is situated in 5th house being lord of 12th house and 9th house. Contrary to traditional astrology, KP astrology doesn't regard 5th house and 9th house any good from financial perspective. 9th house is negation of 10th house, house of profession. 5th house is 11th to 7th which generally is not good for finance and denotes losing to the competition. Saturn is in 8th hosue.. Only two planets that are out 1, 5, 9, 12 are Mars and Moon. Unfortunately person did not get mahadasa of either Mars or Moon.

 

9th and 12th lord Jupiter in 5th in the Star of Sun in 1st is the most malefic planet in this chart. No wonder, Jupiter aspecting Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury and Ketu killing the whole chart.

 

This chart reminds us how dangerous can be kona - 1, 5, 9. In tradional astrology these are considered as laxmi sthana :-) and see the position of poor pujari.

 

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear Dhirendra nath Ji,

 

Appreciated your few few predictions which came true!

 

As Rajiv ji said, such predictions on the general details are very well denoted only through the traditional Astrology . Kp is always good for the events forecast , timing of events which are difficult to ascertain with the other systems. If we have both the knowledge will be more useful for which we have to read lot and practice.

 

We can follow the good points about the importance of the strength of houses and planets, conjunctions, Aspects and many other points along with our KP whihc will definitely enrich our knowledge.

 

As I was not much confident with the knowledege in this subject, I did not participate.

 

But it sounds you have some exposure which is appreciated.

 

Regards

Adith

 

 

 

 

 

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajivji Sir,Thanks for guidance.In birth chart of this person there seems unstable source of earning.Sub lord of 10th cusp is retrograde Rahu and 10th and 11th lord Saturn is posited in 8th house.This also shows weak sign of stable earning.This person had tried many times to earn huge money by way of business but could not do so.He could not get any thing in legacy.source of earning had been writing and speaking.He should have earned money ,name,and fame during Saturn- Venus period during 16.02.1987 to 7.04.1990.His father should have died during 07.04.1990 to 21.03.1991.Again he should have earned money during 20.03.1991 to 19.10.1992.He had done religious work during 03.10.1996 to 17.04.1999 and again he had suffered a great loss from 17.04.1999 to 10.09.2002.He again earned money from 10.09.2002 to 10.07.2005 and from 10.07.2005 to 16.10.2007 he should have earned from writing books.From 16.10.2007 to 12.10.2008 during Mercury- Mars -he has been performing religious deeds and earning money.One of the brothers and sisters may have died during this period.On the whole at present he should be facing great hard ships.Submitted for your perusal and reply.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

--- On Sat, 9/19/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > wrote:

 

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya >

Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

@gro ups.comSaturday, September 19, 2009, 4:43 AM

 

 

 

dhirendraji

personality is not important..

What does this person do...u can say business income and behaviour earnings from ??

physically mentally financially ....comments

rajiv

 

 

 

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>@gro ups.com Friday, 18 September, 2009 10:41:31 PMRe: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajiv Ji,My opinion about this person is as following-This person is courageous,religiou s person,knowledgeabl e about time,interested in scientific and technical work,blessed with good brain & wealth.This person must have knowledge of astrology.blessed with beautiful spouse having big eyes.This person has tall height,pleasant big eyes,beautiful face,pronounced nose and wide fore head.This person may be Tantrik(having knowledge of talismans).Source of earning should be writing and speaking. This person must have many brothers.This person may suffer from acidity.Submitted for perusal.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

--- On Fri, 9/18/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > wrote:

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50@gro ups.comFriday, September 18, 2009, 10:29 AM

 

 

COMMENT ON THIS PERSON AND PERSONALITY

 

 

 

 

sudhir <taurus.sudhir@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comThursday, 17 September, 2009 8:53:24 PM Quiz



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Dear Sunil ji,

 

I didn't take it as a quiz. I just answered your question based on best of my understanding that too on very very basic principles. In the past also Suprakash ji has taken an exercise and that time also I mentioned that RP should not be used as an independent tool for prediction and should be used just as supportive tool. I answered just because there will be an answer based on the known principles for everyone's check, as well as others will not be required to answer. This will also add value to that discussion. Interestingly, few people have taken it as a quiz - which it should not be. I do not know what happened in the past, but quizzes should not be for challenges and to prove or disprove something. Anger is apparent from both the sides and that is the reason quiz is not something which is really making much sense.

 

Anyways, let us not talk about past experience. Please forget and forgive. I am sure that we have lot many things to learn together and we should not allow petty thigns to come in our ways.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Punit pandey JiNamaskar

Thanks for trying the  quiz There was No challenge frm my side and i dont hav direct or indirect relation with Names shri Yogesh ji mentions except once i interacted with the said name in one grp  .

 i always try to giv equal importance to all systems esp what ever sprouted in bharath desh and my exprnce says each has its own value and merits but when some one comes and out of utter ignorence strted creating and fabricating some thing is beyond tolerence level and they r simply imagining some thing which is not true .

we shud not keep on trumpetting our system Like some missionaries who even without provocation goes to other ppl and call them  son of serpent or devil worshipper etc etc ,i hate such kind of evangelical attitude

let any system prevails over other system based on its own merits who in the world can suppress truth for long time any way i will post my results once shri yogesh ji givn his reply and in case other memebrs also take up

thanks for spending ur valuable time with deep regrds sunil nair

--- On Sun, 27/9/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

 

Punit Pandey <punitpRe: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

Sunday, 27 September, 2009, 1:07 PM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sunil ji/ Lajmi ji,

 

I can see that the challenges are coming out due to some bad experiences in the past. I would request everyone to keep it aside and focus on learning.. Anyways, to find out Sunil ji's nakshatra, I checked the RP as follows -

 

27/09/2009

Time: 12:54 PM IST

Place: Agra

 

RP

DL: SUN

ASC: JUP-KET

MON: JUP-VEN

 

As Jupiter is a strong RP, I would say that Jupiter is your Nakshatra lord. Rahu is now a days transiting with Jupiter and hence act as an agent to Jupiter, so Rahu can be another possibility. You seems Jupiterian for sure.

 

Please tell what was your nakshatra.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

 

 

 

On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear Yogesh Ji

Namaskar thanks for ur post

can u tell me my birth star

My birth star is known to few KP forumites and i will defenitly post u my details  to u in person as i hav aversion for revealing it in grps ( after ur exercise )

 horary Numbr in case u want its 121 ( if u required it any way )

 

rgrds sunil nair

PS

this is not to test wheter Kp system is wrong or correct but to proov that  if a person is able ,effient every system will b safe in his hands

My humble opinion is that astrologer shud not go and challenge others and sure shud not run away too frm showing the merits of his sastra ( here it is astrology irrespectiv of system one uses )

--- On Sun, 27/9/09, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:

 

 

 

Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >

 

 

 

Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50@gro ups.com

 

Cc: " Sunil Nair " <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in>Sunday, 27 September, 2009, 12:11 PM

 

 

 

 

Dear Mr.Nair,

                      I had an interesting conversation with one of your vociferous oponents " of K.P., one going by the ID aplex or something... ..you will know for sure his correct ID...

                      This morning he challenged me to tell him his Birth star,so I explained the K.P. method to him and asked him to try it out....he reploe that he got it wrong even after 3 attemopts... !

                      There is a K.P.. method to find out whether a person is telling thetruth or lies...the s/l of the IIIrd cusp of the horary chart at the moment if ruled by Sat he is lying...hence I challenged him and asked him to give me his Birth details,TOB, DOB and POB...and he has refuse and simly RUN AWAY... !

                       It is for you to judge... so much for chalenges... ! !

                       Yogesh Lajmi.

                       

 

 

 

 

Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in>

 

 

 

@gro ups.com

 

 

Friday, September 25, 2009 11:03:07 AM Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6..00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear punit Pandey ji Thanks for talking in traditional astrological terms

Sure at one Look the chart is promising without deeply delving into it .But knowledge of very basics has to b employed with unfolding  dasa s to see the promise in chart

 see the parivrjya yoga ( so many planets in one house -4 or more planets in House will result a sort of sanyasa type of yoga and here it is happening in lagna itself and lagna represent the person himself ) in lagna ,and dainya parivarthana between Lagna Lord and 3rd L and daridra yoga happening in lagna ( lagna and lagna Lord affcted along marakesh and dhanesh ) along with duryoga ( karmesha and labhesa in dustanas ) and Born in Morning sandhya ( junction between day and nite )  along with dasa s u can work a gr8 deal abt the chart

Also being a Nite birth ( as he born within a ghati b4 sunrise and day strt with suryodaya according to Hindu astrology  ) the gulika also happening in 7th House and along with rahu ,also in nite births chandra balam is important factor in supporting Horoscopes and Born in  krishna paksha

even to fruitify the gajakesari in material level the retrogresion of Jup and lack of plaksha bala of moon etc r hindrance ( also jup shud own good houses ) and jup shud not b afflicted is another critiria ( here Nodes and sani afflicting jup )

Pls Note any good yoga to work the status of the planets and afflictions etc is important and it  wil giv a strong decrese in the strnght of the yoga and its other side aspects wil b pronounced ( like spiritual )  .

Then  see the dasa s ,he born in rahu-ketu ( birth dasa will b a pointer as it denotes the karma phala this soul may exprence ) and then got some what good jupiter dasa and after age of 24 he got saturn dasa for 19 yrs and where in prime period life he got best dasa ??

also sun is not having any support ( refer suryadi yogas,even according to nadies sun first sees venus ,then merc and then ketu  ) who is giver of raja yogas in a chart than moon ( moon is mother and she can take care a person when sun is giving results )

rgrds sunil nair PS-I know this is not a traditional astrology forum and some memebrs has deep aversion against  traditional astrology ,so any attacking kind of mails will prevent me frm further answering / discussing .

 

--- On Fri, 25/9/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

 

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50@gro ups.comFriday, 25 September, 2009, 12:21 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Rajiv ji/ Adith ji and Friends,

 

Contrary to what Adith ji has said, I believe that principles of KP are more useful in this case than the principles of traditional astrology. See the chart from traditional astrology perspective -

 

1. Lagna lord Sun is exalted

2. Moon is Vargottama aspected by Jupiter (for the people who are not from tradional astrology background, I would like to tell them that well placed Sun and Moon is very important condition for rajyoga, which seems to be there in this chart)

3.. Moon is in kendra from Jupiter creating gaja-kesari yoga

4. Moon - Jupiter aspect is also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively

5. Venus - Sun also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively.

6. 9th lord Jupiter aspecting five planets from 5th kona.

 

Can one get better than this? So from the traditional astrology perspective, everything looks very good (at least at the surface level).

 

If we will see the chart from KP perspective, we can see that four planets are posited in 1st house negating 2nd, the house of finance.. Jupiter is situated in 5th house being lord of 12th house and 9th house. Contrary to traditional astrology, KP astrology doesn't regard 5th house and 9th house any good from financial perspective. 9th house is negation of 10th house, house of profession. 5th house is 11th to 7th which generally is not good for finance and denotes losing to the competition. Saturn is in 8th hosue.. Only two planets that are out 1, 5, 9, 12 are Mars and Moon. Unfortunately person did not get mahadasa of either Mars or Moon.

 

9th and 12th lord Jupiter in 5th in the Star of Sun in 1st is the most malefic planet in this chart. No wonder, Jupiter aspecting Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury and Ketu killing the whole chart.

 

This chart reminds us how dangerous can be kona - 1, 5, 9. In tradional astrology these are considered as laxmi sthana :-) and see the position of poor pujari.

 

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Dhirendra nath Ji,

 

Appreciated your few few predictions which came true!

 

As Rajiv ji said, such predictions on the general details are very well denoted only through the traditional Astrology . Kp is always good for the events forecast , timing of events which are difficult to ascertain with the other systems. If we have both the knowledge will be more useful for which we have to read lot and practice.

 

We can follow the good points about the importance of the strength of houses and planets, conjunctions, Aspects and many other points along with our KP whihc will definitely enrich our knowledge.

 

As I was not much confident with the knowledege in this subject, I did not participate.

 

But it sounds you have some exposure which is appreciated.

 

Regards

Adith

 

 

 

 

 

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajivji Sir,Thanks for guidance.In birth chart of this person there seems unstable source of earning.Sub lord of 10th cusp is retrograde Rahu and 10th and 11th lord Saturn is posited in 8th house.This also shows weak sign of stable earning.This person had tried many times to earn huge money by way of business but could not do so.He could not get any thing in legacy.source of earning had been writing and speaking.He should have earned money ,name,and fame during Saturn- Venus period during 16.02.1987 to 7.04.1990.His father should have died during 07.04.1990 to 21.03.1991.Again he should have earned money during 20.03.1991 to 19.10.1992.He had done religious work during 03.10.1996 to 17.04.1999 and again he had suffered a great loss from 17.04.1999 to 10.09.2002.He again earned money from 10.09.2002 to 10.07.2005 and from 10.07.2005 to 16.10.2007 he should have earned from writing books.From 16.10.2007 to 12.10.2008 during Mercury- Mars -he has been performing religious deeds and earning money.One of the brothers and sisters may have died during this period.On the whole at present he should be facing great hard ships.Submitted for your perusal and reply.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 --- On Sat, 9/19/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > wrote:

 

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya >

Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

@gro ups.comSaturday, September 19, 2009, 4:43 AM

 

 

 

 

dhirendraji

personality is not important..

What does this person do...u can say business income and behaviour earnings from ??

physically mentally financially ....comments

rajiv

 

 

 

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>@gro ups.com Friday, 18 September, 2009 10:41:31 PMRe: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Rajiv Ji,My opinion about this person is as following-This person is courageous,religiou s person,knowledgeabl e about time,interested in scientific and technical work,blessed with good brain & wealth.This person must have knowledge of astrology.blessed with beautiful spouse having big eyes.This person has tall height,pleasant big eyes,beautiful face,pronounced nose and wide fore head.This person may be Tantrik(having knowledge of talismans).Source of earning should be writing and speaking.. This person must have many brothers.This person may suffer from acidity.Submitted for perusal.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 --- On Fri, 9/18/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > wrote:

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50@gro ups.com

Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:29 AM

 

 

 

COMMENT ON THIS PERSON AND PERSONALITY 

 

 

 

 

sudhir <taurus.sudhir@ gmail.com>@gro ups.com

Thursday, 17 September, 2009 8:53:24 PM Quiz 



Dear list

 

I am looking forward to somebody posting quiz like Rajiv ji..

 

Best regards

Sudhir

 

 

 

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