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Dear Madhusudan,

As you have given your date of birth 07-02-1962 at 10-15 am at Jodhpur/Rajasthan. As my usual practice, I sit for rectification of birth time on 07-10-2009 at 16-45-49 at Oros, Sindhudurg, Long. 73-44(E) and Lat. 15-54 (N)

Ruling planets of the same time is as follows :

LAGNA: KUMBH 22-23-29 SIGN LORD SHANI, LAGNA STAR LORD GURU, SUB SHANI

CHAND: VRISHBH 00-06-53 SIGN LORD SHUKRA, STARLORD RAVI, SUB RAHU

DAY LORD : BUDH

Here it is very interesting note to point out that both Lagna sub sub lord as well as Chandra sub sub lord is Budha.

Now the reported time of birth is 10-15 am. Latitude of Jodhpur/Rajasthan is 26-18.N AND Long 73-02 E.

As Lat. is geographic, to convert it into geocentric we have to deduct 9 minutes when the lat. is within 24 to 27 degrees. Hence we have to deduct 9 minutes from 26-18 and it comes 26-09 and accordingly further calculation is prepared

As per reported time of birth, lagna is MEENA 21-55-35 Ascendent Sign Lord is Guru, Ascendent Star lord is Budh, Ascendent Sub lord is Ravi and Ascendent Sub Sub lord is Ketu.

If we see at Ruling Planets at the time of preparation of Horoscope, there is absence of Ketu and thatswhy we have to find out what the sub sub lord would be.

It is interesting to note that in ruling planets ASCENDENT Sign Lord Guru is the Ascendent Lord at the time of birth. Starlord of the Ascendent of birth time is Budha. It has been runing since 10-00-00 . Prior to that Ascendent Star lord of birth time upto 09-55 to 10-00- was Shani. It was having sub lord Guru and Guru is retrograde thatswhy the period from 09-55 to 10-00 am was not coming as per ruling planets as well as reported time of birth and thatswhy it has not taken into consideration. Then only possibility is that Ascendent Star lord must be the Budh. Today day is Wednesday lord of which is Budha and it is present as the ascendant lord at the time of birth. Today is the Krutika Nakshatra belonging to Ravi and at the time of birth Ascendant Sub lord is Ravi. It matches fantastically.

Now we have to only fix sub sub of the ascendant. According to the strength, ruling planets are like this Guru, Shani, Ravi, Shukra, Budh. Guru is not to take as it is retrograde. Then strong ruling planet is only Shani and we fix it as the sub sub lord of the ascendant.

Ascendent Meena 21-52-31 rising from 10-14-24 to Meena 21-58-39 upto 10-14-42 runs for sub sub lord is shani. Difference in between time is 10-14-42 minus 10-14-24 = 18 seconds and to take it as the mean we have to divide by 2 means it comes 9 and it is to be added in 10-14-24 + 9 = 10-14-33 is the correct time of birth i.e. RECTIFIED TIME OF BIRTH.

Whatever the time of birth is rectified by us may have relation to current DBAs

He is running KETU DASA, CHANDRA BHUKTI, BUDH ANTRA. It shows that what we have rectified the time of birth is correct. Sub lord of the Chandra at the birth time is also Budh.

 

Detailed horoscope in new manner has been prepared in which the things I repeatedly use to tell everyone to consider, has been incorporated.

 

I am not having any boundry of any specific group. So some may accept or not but time will accept my tellings definately.

 

 

 

With regards

Vijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision, The Scientific Socy.for Research and Devt. in Astrology, Kolhapur,maharashtra, India

Cell No. + 91 9422582853/+ 91 9673746303

visit : physics

email : guide_vijayanand /in.com / .co.in

 

 

On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:13:59 +0530 wrote

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Friends,

 

1. Thanks. Now we can follow and study what one is talking. It is a common practice to provide the DOB, TOB, POB or lat long when something is said about a horoscope, otherwise no body knows what is going on.

 

2. That is true, as said by Guruji KSK, that what is lucky is up to the preference of the native; having a happy family with children, long lived parents or promotions or name, fame, long life of the spouse or wealth etc, but the same for all is to live longer; to have all good would be a very rare.

 

Regards,

TW

 

, "Sudan" wrote:

>

> Dear Patilji,

>

> My birth data as below :-

>

> DOB : 7.2.1962

> TOB :10:15 am

> POB :Jodhpur (Rajasthan)

>

> It is very similar to MR.Singh's chart but i am happily married and having three childrens.So lot of differences which can be analyse by KP system.

>

> Thanks regards,

>

> M.S.Bohra

>

> , "VIJAYANAND PATIL" wrote:

> >

> > Sudanji

> > Please give your details of birth. as this post is totally separate one. New comer is not aware of the information in past archives. Please repeat your details here so as to other will consider and comment,

> > Vijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision, Kolhapur,Maharashtra

> > Cell No. +91 942252853/+ 91 9673746303

> >

> >

> > On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 01:57:57 +0530 wrote

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Mr.Singh,

> >

> > I also feel that my Venus Dasha in bhukati always good for me,my Venus is in the star of Mars l/o 2 and 9th in 10th cusp,sub lord is Jupiter l/o 1st and 10th in 11th cusp.

> >

> > Now i am runing Ketu Mahadasha,Venus Mahadasha will start in mid of 2014.I have lot of hops it will give me my desire status of life.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > M.S.Bohra

> >

> > , "G" wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear lajmi ji and Mr Bohra,

> > >

> > > I am in jupiter's mahadasha, whenever jupiter becomes retrograde by transit, I run out of luck. Last year also from May 12th to Sept 2nd 2008 was not a good period.

> > >

> > > I am trying to get a contract for the past few months, but so far unsuccessful. I think it will happen as soon as Jupiter goes direct on Oct 13th, and Bhukti lord Mercury will be away from transit Saturn. There are couple of interviews also involved with clients, and I have seen for interviews the 3rd house significators also should act. I will enter Jupiter/Mercury/Venus period starting Oct 18th, and Venus is the strong significator of 3rd house and 10th house. So Venus should get me the interviews with the clients and the contract.

> > >

> > > I have seen in Venus Bhukti, anthara I am always on the plane every week, there is too much travel involved,change of residence, love affairs involved, and Venus periods are really good for money.

> > >

> > >

> > > November 9th and 10th looks really good when Sun will transit in Venus Sign, Jupiter Nakshatra, Mercury sub and I will be in Jup/Mer/Venus period.

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > G. Singh

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , "Madhu Sudan" wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lajmi ji,

> > > >

> > > > Firstly please confirm your given rule which i have apply is right or wrong ?

> > > >

> > > > Secondly i have used JHora with new KP Ayanamsa which you have used in G.Singh's chart and same posted in the forum.Please check here attached file for confirmation.

> > > >

> > > > If i am some where wrong than please guide me.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks regards,

> > > >

> > > > M.S.Bohra

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Patilji,

 

It is very educative attempt in detail by you is appreciable.I also learn this

way of BTR but Lajmiji have given one rule that " Moon's star lord ,sub lord

should appear as Ascendant's sub lord,sub-sub lord respectively and i find very

logical this.I try to go further one step more to fix Ascendant's sub-sub-sub

lord by Monn's sun-sun lord for fine tuning on G.Singh's chart.

 

At the time of my birth my grand mother(Dadiji),Dai (Who act as today's doctor

or Nurse for the delivery)my three aunties were present and one auntie was

pregnant she deliver a boy on same day in night.I was born at my parental house

in East-South room which is 11th house of lagana.So Meen Lagana is correct.

 

My birth time have big error it seems to me because that time watches are not

correct as we have today and all the ladies were engage in delivery so might be

within one hour + or - error will be there.Western side of India KP system is

unknown,people are practising only Traditional system so they find OK my chart

as per given time.My grand father was knows the astrology but he was out of

Jodhpur at the time of my birth,he erected my chart as Ascendant with Arise sign

but i feel it is also not correct.He expired in my childhood so could not get

the real facts.

 

Here i am giving some of my details if it will helpful to come on conclusion for

right birth time :-

 

1.Marriage date : 21.11.1991

2.First child (Girl): 3.9.1993

3.Second child (Girl) : 16.9.1997

4.Third child (Son) : 24.3.1999

 

If you guide us, how to correct the BT error within one hour time or few hours

of birth it will be another lesson for us.

 

Thanks & regards,

 

M.S.Bohra

 

 

 

 

, " VIJAYANAND PATIL "

<guide_vijayanand wrote:

>

> Dear Madhusudan,

> As you have given your date of birth 07-02-1962 at 10-15 am at

Jodhpur/Rajasthan. As my usual practice, I sit for rectification of birth time

on 07-10-2009 at 16-45-49 at Oros, Sindhudurg, Long. 73-44(E) and Lat. 15-54 (N)

> Ruling planets of the same time is as follows :

> LAGNA: KUMBH 22-23-29 SIGN LORD SHANI, LAGNA STAR LORD GURU, SUB SHANI

> CHAND: VRISHBH 00-06-53 SIGN LORD SHUKRA, STARLORD RAVI, SUB RAHU

> DAY LORD : BUDH

> Here it is very interesting note to point out that both Lagna sub sub

lord as well as Chandra sub sub lord is Budha.

> Now the reported time of birth is 10-15 am. Latitude of

Jodhpur/Rajasthan is 26-18.N AND Long 73-02 E.

> As Lat. is geographic, to convert it into geocentric we have to deduct 9

minutes when the lat. is within 24 to 27 degrees. Hence we have to deduct 9

minutes from 26-18 and it comes 26-09 and accordingly further calculation is

prepared

> As per reported time of birth, lagna is MEENA 21-55-35 Ascendent Sign Lord

is Guru, Ascendent Star lord is Budh, Ascendent Sub lord is Ravi and Ascendent

Sub Sub lord is Ketu.

> If we see at Ruling Planets at the time of preparation of Horoscope, there is

absence of Ketu and thatswhy we have to find out what the sub sub lord would be.

> It is interesting to note that in ruling planets ASCENDENT Sign Lord Guru is

the Ascendent Lord at the time of birth. Starlord of the Ascendent of birth

time is Budha. It has been runing since 10-00-00 . Prior to that Ascendent Star

lord of birth time upto 09-55 to 10-00- was Shani. It was having sub lord Guru

and Guru is retrograde thatswhy the period from 09-55 to 10-00 am was not coming

as per ruling planets as well as reported time of birth and thatswhy it has not

taken into consideration. Then only possibility is that Ascendent Star lord

must be the Budh. Today day is Wednesday lord of which is Budha and it is

present as the ascendant lord at the time of birth. Today is the Krutika

Nakshatra belonging to Ravi and at the time of birth Ascendant Sub lord is Ravi.

It matches fantastically.

> Now we have to only fix sub sub of the ascendant. According to the strength,

ruling planets are like this Guru, Shani, Ravi, Shukra, Budh. Guru is not to

take as it is retrograde. Then strong ruling planet is only Shani and we fix it

as the sub sub lord of the ascendant.

> Ascendent Meena 21-52-31 rising from 10-14-24 to Meena 21-58-39 upto 10-14-42

runs for sub sub lord is shani. Difference in between time is 10-14-42 minus

10-14-24 = 18 seconds and to take it as the mean we have to divide by 2 means it

comes 9 and it is to be added in 10-14-24 + 9 = 10-14-33 is the correct time of

birth i.e. RECTIFIED TIME OF BIRTH.

> Whatever the time of birth is rectified by us may have relation to current

DBAs

> He is running KETU DASA, CHANDRA BHUKTI, BUDH ANTRA. It shows that what we

have rectified the time of birth is correct. Sub lord of the Chandra at the

birth time is also Budh.

>

> Detailed horoscope in new manner has been prepared in which the things I

repeatedly use to tell everyone to consider, has been incorporated.

>

> I am not having any boundry of any specific group. So some may accept or

not but time will accept my tellings definately.

>

>

>

> With regards

> Vijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision, The Scientific Socy.for Research and

Devt. in Astrology, Kolhapur,maharashtra, India

> Cell No. + 91 9422582853/+ 91 9673746303

> visit : physics

> email : guide_vijayanand /in.com / .co.in

>

>

> On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:13:59 +0530 wrote

> >

Dear Friends,

>

> 1. Thanks. Now we can follow and study what one is talking. It is a common

practice to provide the DOB, TOB, POB or lat & long when something is said about

a horoscope, otherwise no body knows what is going on.

>

> 2. That is true, as said by Guruji KSK, that what is lucky is up to the

preference of the native; having a happy family with children, long lived

parents or promotions or name, fame, long life of the spouse or wealth etc, but

the same for all is to live longer; to have all good would be a very rare.

>

> Regards,

> TW

>

> , " Sudan " wrote:

> >

> > Dear Patilji,

> >

> > My birth data as below :-

> >

> > DOB : 7.2.1962

> > TOB :10:15 am

> > POB :Jodhpur (Rajasthan)

> >

> > It is very similar to MR.Singh's chart but i am happily married and having

three childrens.So lot of differences which can be analyse by KP system.

> >

> > Thanks & regards,

> >

> > M.S.Bohra

> >

> > , " VIJAYANAND PATIL " wrote:

> > >

> > > Sudanji

> > > Please give your details of birth. as this post is totally separate one.

New comer is not aware of the information in past archives. Please repeat your

details here so as to other will consider and comment,

> > > Vijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision, Kolhapur,Maharashtra

> > > Cell No. +91 942252853/+ 91 9673746303

> > >

> > >

> > > On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 01:57:57 +0530 wrote

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Mr.Singh,

> > >

> > > I also feel that my Venus Dasha in bhukati always good for me,my Venus is

in the star of Mars l/o 2 and 9th in 10th cusp,sub lord is Jupiter l/o 1st and

10th in 11th cusp.

> > >

> > > Now i am runing Ketu Mahadasha,Venus Mahadasha will start in mid of 2014.I

have lot of hops it will give me my desire status of life.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > > M.S.Bohra

> > >

> > > , " G " wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear lajmi ji and Mr Bohra,

> > > >

> > > > I am in jupiter's mahadasha, whenever jupiter becomes retrograde by

transit, I run out of luck. Last year also from May 12th to Sept 2nd 2008 was

not a good period.

> > > >

> > > > I am trying to get a contract for the past few months, but so far

unsuccessful. I think it will happen as soon as Jupiter goes direct on Oct 13th,

and Bhukti lord Mercury will be away from transit Saturn. There are couple of

interviews also involved with clients, and I have seen for interviews the 3rd

house significators also should act. I will enter Jupiter/Mercury/Venus period

starting Oct 18th, and Venus is the strong significator of 3rd house and 10th

house. So Venus should get me the interviews with the clients and the contract.

> > > >

> > > > I have seen in Venus Bhukti, anthara I am always on the plane every

week, there is too much travel involved,change of residence, love affairs

involved, and Venus periods are really good for money.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > November 9th and 10th looks really good when Sun will transit in Venus

Sign, Jupiter Nakshatra, Mercury sub and I will be in Jup/Mer/Venus period.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > G. Singh

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " Madhu Sudan " wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Lajmi ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Firstly please confirm your given rule which i have apply is right or

wrong ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Secondly i have used JHora with new KP Ayanamsa which you have used in

G.Singh's chart and same posted in the forum.Please check here attached file for

confirmation.

> > > > >

> > > > > If i am some where wrong than please guide me.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks & regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > M.S.Bohra

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Sudanji

What yogeshji says is correct. If you are having the means to go further you can go. But as far as possible sub sub will give you the appropriate correctness. and I have saw in many cases lagna will be matching to ruling planets upto 100 per cent as in your case you can test. but as far as other cusps as well as chandra in the natal horoscope it may or may not match. In certain cases, no doubt it matches but if we take it as the only rule unless chandra matches, rectification is wrong, it must not be the case. You have given your long and lat. of place of birth. But when we are reaching to sub sub sub then why not you have considered the conversion of Geographic Lat to geocentric which I have done it and accordingly only your sub sub lord has been changed. and it is the correct thing. And if you go through my posting, you will come to know the Budh is the sub sub lord of lagna as well as chandra at the time of preparation of horoscope/rectification of birth time. In your horoscope Chandra is in Shani's Kumbha rashi and when I sat for RBT the lagna was Kumbh. Sub lord of Chandra is Budh. and the sub sub lord of Chandra is Shani. So it is matching astonishingly.

If you have a doubt in your mind, still you have done a nice job, you will not have the satisfaction and feel yourself guilty that you have comitted a high sin. Dont do like this. Please go through all my postings at this group as well as other groups also then you will find why your time of birth has been got rectified upto sub sub level including chandra to match.

Regards

Vijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision, Kolhapur,

 

On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:10:56 +0530 wrote

>

Dear Patilji,

 

It is very educative attempt in detail by you is appreciable.I also learn this way of BTR but Lajmiji have given one rule that "Moon's star lord ,sub lord should appear as Ascendant's sub lord,sub-sub lord respectively and i find very logical this.I try to go further one step more to fix Ascendant's sub-sub-sub lord by Monn's sun-sun lord for fine tuning on G.Singh's chart.

 

At the time of my birth my grand mother(Dadiji),Dai (Who act as today's doctor or Nurse for the delivery)my three aunties were present and one auntie was pregnant she deliver a boy on same day in night.I was born at my parental house in East-South room which is 11th house of lagana.So Meen Lagana is correct.

 

My birth time have big error it seems to me because that time watches are not correct as we have today and all the ladies were engage in delivery so might be within one hour + or - error will be there.Western side of India KP system is unknown,people are practising only Traditional system so they find OK my chart as per given time.My grand father was knows the astrology but he was out of Jodhpur at the time of my birth,he erected my chart as Ascendant with Arise sign but i feel it is also not correct.He expired in my childhood so could not get the real facts.

 

Here i am giving some of my details if it will helpful to come on conclusion for right birth time :-

 

1.Marriage date : 21.11.1991

2.First child (Girl): 3.9.1993

3.Second child (Girl) : 16.9.1997

4.Third child (Son) : 24.3.1999

 

If you guide us, how to correct the BT error within one hour time or few hours of birth it will be another lesson for us.

 

Thanks regards,

 

M.S.Bohra

 

, "VIJAYANAND PATIL" wrote:

>

> Dear Madhusudan,

> As you have given your date of birth 07-02-1962 at 10-15 am at Jodhpur/Rajasthan. As my usual practice, I sit for rectification of birth time on 07-10-2009 at 16-45-49 at Oros, Sindhudurg, Long. 73-44(E) and Lat. 15-54 (N)

> Ruling planets of the same time is as follows :

> LAGNA: KUMBH 22-23-29 SIGN LORD SHANI, LAGNA STAR LORD GURU, SUB SHANI

> CHAND: VRISHBH 00-06-53 SIGN LORD SHUKRA, STARLORD RAVI, SUB RAHU

> DAY LORD : BUDH

> Here it is very interesting note to point out that both Lagna sub sub lord as well as Chandra sub sub lord is Budha.

> Now the reported time of birth is 10-15 am. Latitude of Jodhpur/Rajasthan is 26-18.N AND Long 73-02 E.

> As Lat. is geographic, to convert it into geocentric we have to deduct 9 minutes when the lat. is within 24 to 27 degrees. Hence we have to deduct 9 minutes from 26-18 and it comes 26-09 and accordingly further calculation is prepared

> As per reported time of birth, lagna is MEENA 21-55-35 Ascendent Sign Lord is Guru, Ascendent Star lord is Budh, Ascendent Sub lord is Ravi and Ascendent Sub Sub lord is Ketu.

> If we see at Ruling Planets at the time of preparation of Horoscope, there is absence of Ketu and thatswhy we have to find out what the sub sub lord would be.

> It is interesting to note that in ruling planets ASCENDENT Sign Lord Guru is the Ascendent Lord at the time of birth. Starlord of the Ascendent of birth time is Budha. It has been runing since 10-00-00 . Prior to that Ascendent Star lord of birth time upto 09-55 to 10-00- was Shani. It was having sub lord Guru and Guru is retrograde thatswhy the period from 09-55 to 10-00 am was not coming as per ruling planets as well as reported time of birth and thatswhy it has not taken into consideration. Then only possibility is that Ascendent Star lord must be the Budh. Today day is Wednesday lord of which is Budha and it is present as the ascendant lord at the time of birth. Today is the Krutika Nakshatra belonging to Ravi and at the time of birth Ascendant Sub lord is Ravi. It matches fantastically.

> Now we have to only fix sub sub of the ascendant. According to the strength, ruling planets are like this Guru, Shani, Ravi, Shukra, Budh. Guru is not to take as it is retrograde. Then strong ruling planet is only Shani and we fix it as the sub sub lord of the ascendant.

> Ascendent Meena 21-52-31 rising from 10-14-24 to Meena 21-58-39 upto 10-14-42 runs for sub sub lord is shani. Difference in between time is 10-14-42 minus 10-14-24 = 18 seconds and to take it as the mean we have to divide by 2 means it comes 9 and it is to be added in 10-14-24 + 9 = 10-14-33 is the correct time of birth i.e. RECTIFIED TIME OF BIRTH.

> Whatever the time of birth is rectified by us may have relation to current DBAs

> He is running KETU DASA, CHANDRA BHUKTI, BUDH ANTRA. It shows that what we have rectified the time of birth is correct. Sub lord of the Chandra at the birth time is also Budh.

>

> Detailed horoscope in new manner has been prepared in which the things I repeatedly use to tell everyone to consider, has been incorporated.

>

> I am not having any boundry of any specific group. So some may accept or not but time will accept my tellings definately.

>

>

>

> With regards

> Vijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision, The Scientific Socy.for Research and Devt. in Astrology, Kolhapur,maharashtra, India

> Cell No. + 91 9422582853/+ 91 9673746303

> visit : physics

> email : guide_vijayanand /in.com / .co.in

>

>

> On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:13:59 +0530 wrote

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Friends,

>

> 1. Thanks. Now we can follow and study what one is talking. It is a common practice to provide the DOB, TOB, POB or lat long when something is said about a horoscope, otherwise no body knows what is going on.

>

> 2. That is true, as said by Guruji KSK, that what is lucky is up to the preference of the native; having a happy family with children, long lived parents or promotions or name, fame, long life of the spouse or wealth etc, but the same for all is to live longer; to have all good would be a very rare.

>

> Regards,

> TW

>

> , "Sudan" wrote:

> >

> > Dear Patilji,

> >

> > My birth data as below :-

> >

> > DOB : 7.2.1962

> > TOB :10:15 am

> > POB :Jodhpur (Rajasthan)

> >

> > It is very similar to MR.Singh's chart but i am happily married and having three childrens.So lot of differences which can be analyse by KP system.

> >

> > Thanks regards,

> >

> > M.S.Bohra

> >

> > , "VIJAYANAND PATIL" wrote:

> > >

> > > Sudanji

> > > Please give your details of birth. as this post is totally separate one. New comer is not aware of the information in past archives. Please repeat your details here so as to other will consider and comment,

> > > Vijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision, Kolhapur,Maharashtra

> > > Cell No. +91 942252853/+ 91 9673746303

> > >

> > >

> > > On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 01:57:57 +0530 wrote

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Mr.Singh,

> > >

> > > I also feel that my Venus Dasha in bhukati always good for me,my Venus is in the star of Mars l/o 2 and 9th in 10th cusp,sub lord is Jupiter l/o 1st and 10th in 11th cusp.

> > >

> > > Now i am runing Ketu Mahadasha,Venus Mahadasha will start in mid of 2014.I have lot of hops it will give me my desire status of life.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > > M.S.Bohra

> > >

> > > , "G" wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear lajmi ji and Mr Bohra,

> > > >

> > > > I am in jupiter's mahadasha, whenever jupiter becomes retrograde by transit, I run out of luck. Last year also from May 12th to Sept 2nd 2008 was not a good period.

> > > >

> > > > I am trying to get a contract for the past few months, but so far unsuccessful. I think it will happen as soon as Jupiter goes direct on Oct 13th, and Bhukti lord Mercury will be away from transit Saturn. There are couple of interviews also involved with clients, and I have seen for interviews the 3rd house significators also should act. I will enter Jupiter/Mercury/Venus period starting Oct 18th, and Venus is the strong significator of 3rd house and 10th house. So Venus should get me the interviews with the clients and the contract.

> > > >

> > > > I have seen in Venus Bhukti, anthara I am always on the plane every week, there is too much travel involved,change of residence, love affairs involved, and Venus periods are really good for money.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > November 9th and 10th looks really good when Sun will transit in Venus Sign, Jupiter Nakshatra, Mercury sub and I will be in Jup/Mer/Venus period.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > G. Singh

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , "Madhu Sudan" wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Lajmi ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Firstly please confirm your given rule which i have apply is right or wrong ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Secondly i have used JHora with new KP Ayanamsa which you have used in G.Singh's chart and same posted in the forum.Please check here attached file for confirmation.

> > > > >

> > > > > If i am some where wrong than please guide me.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > M.S.Bohra

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Patilji,

 

I am in learning stage in KP system and always consider that experienced learned

people say something than they have lot of experiences behind it.If i have any

doubt in my understanding than i like to confirm that i am getting right way or

wrong, what ever senior have said.So it is not any way sin to asked the

questions or do confermation for proper understanding.You are senior and

experienced so please don't take it personal or other wise that i have doubt in

your ability.

 

You have confirmed that their is no thumb rule for BTR that Moon's star and Sub

lord should match as Ascendant sub,sub-sub lord respectively.

 

I like your post and read all most all, i am impress by your one post where you

have elaborate about 8th lord is natural Karka for any house (Upchay sthana

post).You can consider me as a new student who have so many questions in his

mind and will ask the same to learn in future.

 

Thanks & regards,

 

M.S.Bohra

 

, " VIJAYANAND PATIL "

<guide_vijayanand wrote:

>

> Sudanji

> What yogeshji says is correct. If you are having the means to go further

you can go. But as far as possible sub sub will give you the appropriate

correctness. and I have saw in many cases lagna will be matching to ruling

planets upto 100 per cent as in your case you can test. but as far as other

cusps as well as chandra in the natal horoscope it may or may not match. In

certain cases, no doubt it matches but if we take it as the only rule unless

chandra matches, rectification is wrong, it must not be the case. You have

given your long and lat. of place of birth. But when we are reaching to sub sub

sub then why not you have considered the conversion of Geographic Lat to

geocentric which I have done it and accordingly only your sub sub lord has been

changed. and it is the correct thing. And if you go through my posting, you

will come to know the Budh is the sub sub lord of lagna as well as chandra at

the time of preparation of horoscope/rectification of birth time. In your

horoscope Chandra is in Shani's Kumbha rashi and when I sat for RBT the lagna

was Kumbh. Sub lord of Chandra is Budh. and the sub sub lord of Chandra is

Shani. So it is matching astonishingly.

> If you have a doubt in your mind, still you have done a nice job, you will

not have the satisfaction and feel yourself guilty that you have comitted a high

sin. Dont do like this. Please go through all my postings at this group as

well as other groups also then you will find why your time of birth has been got

rectified upto sub sub level including chandra to match.

> Regards

> Vijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision, Kolhapur,

>

> On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:10:56 +0530 wrote

> >

> Dear Patilji,

>

> It is very educative attempt in detail by you is appreciable.I also learn this

way of BTR but Lajmiji have given one rule that " Moon's star lord ,sub lord

should appear as Ascendant's sub lord,sub-sub lord respectively and i find very

logical this.I try to go further one step more to fix Ascendant's sub-sub-sub

lord by Monn's sun-sun lord for fine tuning on G.Singh's chart.

>

> At the time of my birth my grand mother(Dadiji),Dai (Who act as today's doctor

or Nurse for the delivery)my three aunties were present and one auntie was

pregnant she deliver a boy on same day in night.I was born at my parental house

in East-South room which is 11th house of lagana.So Meen Lagana is correct.

>

> My birth time have big error it seems to me because that time watches are not

correct as we have today and all the ladies were engage in delivery so might be

within one hour + or - error will be there.Western side of India KP system is

unknown,people are practising only Traditional system so they find OK my chart

as per given time.My grand father was knows the astrology but he was out of

Jodhpur at the time of my birth,he erected my chart as Ascendant with Arise sign

but i feel it is also not correct.He expired in my childhood so could not get

the real facts.

>

> Here i am giving some of my details if it will helpful to come on conclusion

for right birth time :-

>

> 1.Marriage date : 21.11.1991

> 2.First child (Girl): 3.9.1993

> 3.Second child (Girl) : 16.9.1997

> 4.Third child (Son) : 24.3.1999

>

> If you guide us, how to correct the BT error within one hour time or few hours

of birth it will be another lesson for us.

>

> Thanks & regards,

>

> M.S.Bohra

>

> , " VIJAYANAND PATIL " wrote:

> >

> > Dear Madhusudan,

> > As you have given your date of birth 07-02-1962 at 10-15 am at

Jodhpur/Rajasthan. As my usual practice, I sit for rectification of birth time

on 07-10-2009 at 16-45-49 at Oros, Sindhudurg, Long. 73-44(E) and Lat. 15-54 (N)

> > Ruling planets of the same time is as follows :

> > LAGNA: KUMBH 22-23-29 SIGN LORD SHANI, LAGNA STAR LORD GURU, SUB SHANI

> > CHAND: VRISHBH 00-06-53 SIGN LORD SHUKRA, STARLORD RAVI, SUB RAHU

> > DAY LORD : BUDH

> > Here it is very interesting note to point out that both Lagna sub sub

lord as well as Chandra sub sub lord is Budha.

> > Now the reported time of birth is 10-15 am. Latitude of

Jodhpur/Rajasthan is 26-18.N AND Long 73-02 E.

> > As Lat. is geographic, to convert it into geocentric we have to deduct 9

minutes when the lat. is within 24 to 27 degrees. Hence we have to deduct 9

minutes from 26-18 and it comes 26-09 and accordingly further calculation is

prepared

> > As per reported time of birth, lagna is MEENA 21-55-35 Ascendent Sign Lord

is Guru, Ascendent Star lord is Budh, Ascendent Sub lord is Ravi and Ascendent

Sub Sub lord is Ketu.

> > If we see at Ruling Planets at the time of preparation of Horoscope, there

is absence of Ketu and thatswhy we have to find out what the sub sub lord would

be.

> > It is interesting to note that in ruling planets ASCENDENT Sign Lord Guru

is the Ascendent Lord at the time of birth. Starlord of the Ascendent of birth

time is Budha. It has been runing since 10-00-00 . Prior to that Ascendent Star

lord of birth time upto 09-55 to 10-00- was Shani. It was having sub lord Guru

and Guru is retrograde thatswhy the period from 09-55 to 10-00 am was not coming

as per ruling planets as well as reported time of birth and thatswhy it has not

taken into consideration. Then only possibility is that Ascendent Star lord

must be the Budh. Today day is Wednesday lord of which is Budha and it is

present as the ascendant lord at the time of birth. Today is the Krutika

Nakshatra belonging to Ravi and at the time of birth Ascendant Sub lord is Ravi.

It matches fantastically.

> > Now we have to only fix sub sub of the ascendant. According to the

strength, ruling planets are like this Guru, Shani, Ravi, Shukra, Budh. Guru

is not to take as it is retrograde. Then strong ruling planet is only Shani and

we fix it as the sub sub lord of the ascendant.

> > Ascendent Meena 21-52-31 rising from 10-14-24 to Meena 21-58-39 upto

10-14-42 runs for sub sub lord is shani. Difference in between time is 10-14-42

minus 10-14-24 = 18 seconds and to take it as the mean we have to divide by 2

means it comes 9 and it is to be added in 10-14-24 + 9 = 10-14-33 is the

correct time of birth i.e. RECTIFIED TIME OF BIRTH.

> > Whatever the time of birth is rectified by us may have relation to current

DBAs

> > He is running KETU DASA, CHANDRA BHUKTI, BUDH ANTRA. It shows that what we

have rectified the time of birth is correct. Sub lord of the Chandra at the

birth time is also Budh.

> >

> > Detailed horoscope in new manner has been prepared in which the things I

repeatedly use to tell everyone to consider, has been incorporated.

> >

> > I am not having any boundry of any specific group. So some may accept or

not but time will accept my tellings definately.

> >

> >

> >

> > With regards

> > Vijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision, The Scientific Socy.for Research

and Devt. in Astrology, Kolhapur,maharashtra, India

> > Cell No. + 91 9422582853/+ 91 9673746303

> > visit : physics@

> > email : guide_vijayanand@ /in.com / .co.in

> >

> >

> > On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:13:59 +0530 wrote

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Friends,

> >

> > 1. Thanks. Now we can follow and study what one is talking. It is a common

practice to provide the DOB, TOB, POB or lat & long when something is said about

a horoscope, otherwise no body knows what is going on.

> >

> > 2. That is true, as said by Guruji KSK, that what is lucky is up to the

preference of the native; having a happy family with children, long lived

parents or promotions or name, fame, long life of the spouse or wealth etc, but

the same for all is to live longer; to have all good would be a very rare.

> >

> > Regards,

> > TW

> >

> > , " Sudan " wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Patilji,

> > >

> > > My birth data as below :-

> > >

> > > DOB : 7.2.1962

> > > TOB :10:15 am

> > > POB :Jodhpur (Rajasthan)

> > >

> > > It is very similar to MR.Singh's chart but i am happily married and having

three childrens.So lot of differences which can be analyse by KP system.

> > >

> > > Thanks & regards,

> > >

> > > M.S.Bohra

> > >

> > > , " VIJAYANAND PATIL " wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Sudanji

> > > > Please give your details of birth. as this post is totally separate

one. New comer is not aware of the information in past archives. Please repeat

your details here so as to other will consider and comment,

> > > > Vijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision, Kolhapur,Maharashtra

> > > > Cell No. +91 942252853/+ 91 9673746303

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 01:57:57 +0530 wrote

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mr.Singh,

> > > >

> > > > I also feel that my Venus Dasha in bhukati always good for me,my Venus

is in the star of Mars l/o 2 and 9th in 10th cusp,sub lord is Jupiter l/o 1st

and 10th in 11th cusp.

> > > >

> > > > Now i am runing Ketu Mahadasha,Venus Mahadasha will start in mid of

2014.I have lot of hops it will give me my desire status of life.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > > M.S.Bohra

> > > >

> > > > , " G " wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear lajmi ji and Mr Bohra,

> > > > >

> > > > > I am in jupiter's mahadasha, whenever jupiter becomes retrograde by

transit, I run out of luck. Last year also from May 12th to Sept 2nd 2008 was

not a good period.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am trying to get a contract for the past few months, but so far

unsuccessful. I think it will happen as soon as Jupiter goes direct on Oct 13th,

and Bhukti lord Mercury will be away from transit Saturn. There are couple of

interviews also involved with clients, and I have seen for interviews the 3rd

house significators also should act. I will enter Jupiter/Mercury/Venus period

starting Oct 18th, and Venus is the strong significator of 3rd house and 10th

house. So Venus should get me the interviews with the clients and the contract.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have seen in Venus Bhukti, anthara I am always on the plane every

week, there is too much travel involved,change of residence, love affairs

involved, and Venus periods are really good for money.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > November 9th and 10th looks really good when Sun will transit in Venus

Sign, Jupiter Nakshatra, Mercury sub and I will be in Jup/Mer/Venus period.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > >

> > > > > G. Singh

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Madhu Sudan " wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Lajmi ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Firstly please confirm your given rule which i have apply is right

or wrong ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Secondly i have used JHora with new KP Ayanamsa which you have used

in G.Singh's chart and same posted in the forum.Please check here attached file

for confirmation.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If i am some where wrong than please guide me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks & regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > M.S.Bohra

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Vijayanandji,

It is definitely appreciable. thanks

Dr. Rath

 

 

 

 

VIJAYANAND PATIL <guide_vijayanand Cc: guide_vijayanandSent: Wed, October 7, 2009 6:20:35 PM SIGNIFICATION OF 5 PLANETS IN 11TH HOUSE.. MARITAL HAPPYNESS /UNHAPPYNESS OR WOMANISERNESS

Dear Madhusudan,As you have given your date of birth 07-02-1962 at 10-15 am at Jodhpur/Rajasthan. As my usual practice, I sit for rectification of birth time on 07-10-2009 at 16-45-49 at Oros, Sindhudurg, Long. 73-44(E) and Lat. 15-54 (N)Ruling planets of the same time is as follows :LAGNA: KUMBH 22-23-29 SIGN LORD SHANI, LAGNA STAR LORD GURU, SUB SHANICHAND: VRISHBH 00-06-53 SIGN LORD SHUKRA, STARLORD RAVI, SUB RAHUDAY LORD : BUDHHere it is very interesting note to point out that both Lagna sub sub lord as well as Chandra sub sub lord is Budha.Now the reported time of birth is 10-15 am. Latitude of Jodhpur/Rajasthan is 26-18.N AND Long 73-02 E. As Lat. is geographic, to convert it into geocentric we have to deduct 9 minutes when the lat. is within 24 to 27 degrees. Hence we have to deduct 9 minutes from 26-18 and it comes 26-09 and accordingly further calculation is preparedAs per reported time of birth, lagna is

MEENA 21-55-35 Ascendent Sign Lord is Guru, Ascendent Star lord is Budh, Ascendent Sub lord is Ravi and Ascendent Sub Sub lord is Ketu.If we see at Ruling Planets at the time of preparation of Horoscope, there is absence of Ketu and thatswhy we have to find out what the sub sub lord would be.It is interesting to note that in ruling planets ASCENDENT Sign Lord Guru is the Ascendent Lord at the time of birth. Starlord of the Ascendent of birth time is Budha. It has been runing since 10-00-00 . Prior to that Ascendent Star lord of birth time upto 09-55 to 10-00- was Shani. It was having sub lord Guru and Guru is retrograde thatswhy the period from 09-55 to 10-00 am was not coming as per ruling planets as well as reported time of birth and thatswhy it has not taken into consideration. Then only possibility is that Ascendent Star lord must be the Budh. Today day is Wednesday lord of which is Budha and it is present as the ascendant lord at the time

of birth. Today is the Krutika Nakshatra belonging to Ravi and at the time of birth Ascendant Sub lord is Ravi. It matches fantastically. Now we have to only fix sub sub of the ascendant. According to the strength, ruling planets are like this Guru, Shani, Ravi, Shukra, Budh. Guru is not to take as it is retrograde. Then strong ruling planet is only Shani and we fix it as the sub sub lord of the ascendant.Ascendent Meena 21-52-31 rising from 10-14-24 to Meena 21-58-39 upto 10-14-42 runs for sub sub lord is shani. Difference in between time is 10-14-42 minus 10-14-24 = 18 seconds and to take it as the mean we have to divide by 2 means it comes 9 and it is to be added in 10-14-24 + 9 = 10-14-33 is the correct time of birth i.e. RECTIFIED TIME OF BIRTH.Whatever the time of birth is rectified by us may have relation to current DBAsHe is running KETU DASA, CHANDRA BHUKTI, BUDH ANTRA. It shows that what we have rectified the time of birth is

correct. Sub lord of the Chandra at the birth time is also Budh.Detailed horoscope in new manner has been prepared in which the things I repeatedly use to tell everyone to consider, has been incorporated.I am not having any boundry of any specific group. So some may accept or not but time will accept my tellings definately.With regardsVijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision, The Scientific Socy.for Research and Devt. in Astrology, Kolhapur,maharashtr a, IndiaCell No. + 91 9422582853/+ 91 9673746303visit : physics@ . co.inemail : guide_ vijayanand@ rediffmail. com /in.com / .co.inOn Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:13:59 +0530 wrote>Dear Friends,1. Thanks. Now we can follow and study what one is talking. It is a common practice to provide the DOB,

TOB, POB or lat long when something is said about a horoscope, otherwise no body knows what is going on.2. That is true, as said by Guruji KSK, that what is lucky is up to the preference of the native; having a happy family with children, long lived parents or promotions or name, fame, long life of the spouse or wealth etc, but the same for all is to live longer; to have all good would be a very rare.Regards,TW @gro ups.com, "Sudan" wrote:>> Dear Patilji,> > My birth data as below :-> > DOB : 7.2.1962> TOB :10:15 am> POB :Jodhpur (Rajasthan)> > It is very similar to MR.Singh's chart but i am happily married and having three childrens.So lot of differences which can be analyse by KP system.> > Thanks regards,> > M.S.Bohra> > @gro

ups.com, "VIJAYANAND PATIL" wrote:> >> > Sudanji> > Please give your details of birth. as this post is totally separate one. New comer is not aware of the information in past archives. Please repeat your details here so as to other will consider and comment,> > Vijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision, Kolhapur,Maharashtr a> > Cell No. +91 942252853/+ 91 9673746303> > > > > > On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 01:57:57 +0530 wrote> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr.Singh,> > > > I also feel that my Venus Dasha in bhukati always good for me,my Venus is in the star of Mars l/o 2 and 9th in 10th cusp,sub lord is Jupiter l/o 1st and 10th in 11th cusp.> > > > Now i am runing Ketu Mahadasha,Venus Mahadasha will start in mid of 2014.I have lot of hops it will give me my

desire status of life.> > > > Thanks,> > > > M.S.Bohra> > > > @gro ups.com, "G" wrote:> > >> > > Dear lajmi ji and Mr Bohra,> > > > > > I am in jupiter's mahadasha, whenever jupiter becomes retrograde by transit, I run out of luck. Last year also from May 12th to Sept 2nd 2008 was not a good period. > > > > > > I am trying to get a contract for the past few months, but so far unsuccessful. I think it will happen as soon as Jupiter goes direct on Oct 13th, and Bhukti lord Mercury will be away from transit Saturn. There are couple of interviews also involved with clients, and I have seen for interviews the 3rd house significators also should act. I will enter Jupiter/Mercury/ Venus period starting Oct 18th, and Venus is the strong significator of 3rd house and 10th house. So Venus should get me the

interviews with the clients and the contract.> > > > > > I have seen in Venus Bhukti, anthara I am always on the plane every week, there is too much travel involved,change of residence, love affairs involved, and Venus periods are really good for money.> > > > > > > > > November 9th and 10th looks really good when Sun will transit in Venus Sign, Jupiter Nakshatra, Mercury sub and I will be in Jup/Mer/Venus period.> > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > G. Singh> > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "Madhu Sudan" wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Lajmi ji,> > > > > > > > Firstly please confirm your given rule which i have apply is right or wrong ?> > > > > > > > Secondly

i have used JHora with new KP Ayanamsa which you have used in G.Singh's chart and same posted in the forum.Please check here attached file for confirmation.> > > > > > > > If i am some where wrong than please guide me.> > > > > > > > Thanks regards,> > > > > > > > M.S.Bohra> > > >> > >> >>

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