Guest guest Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Respected members How can one explain George W. Bush's rise in Saturn dasa using KP System? Saturn is in 12th house according to the placidus house system. Saturn is no doubt strong being in Pushya nakshatra. One can explain using vedic or regular astrology. Same thing with Barack Obama's chart. Jupiter is in 12th house if we use KP system. G. Singh's explanation of Obama's rise if fine. I am looking to see if there is any other thoughts by learned members. Thanks. Name Bush, George W. Gender: M Birthname Bush, George Walker born on 6 July 1946 at 07:26 (= 07:26 AM ) Place New Haven CT, USA, 41n18, 72w55 Timezone EDT h4w (is daylight saving time) Data source Quoted BC/BR Rodden Rating AA M.Sharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Dear mssumich, Kindly give the Star and sub in which Saturn is placed...However,whenever a person rises high in Saturn's Dasa...Saturn also brings about an ignominous downfall/exit too... Morarji Desai is a classic exmple...there are many others too... Looking forward to the correct DOB,TOB, & POB (with Lat & Long)...of George Bush.... Will send explanation... Yogesh Lajmi..--- On Mon, 10/12/09, mssumich <mssumich wrote: mssumich <mssumich George W. Bush's chart Date: Monday, October 12, 2009, 4:02 PM Respected membersHow can one explain George W. Bush's rise in Saturn dasa using KP System? Saturn is in 12th house according to the placidus house system. Saturn is no doubt strong being in Pushya nakshatra. One can explain using vedic or regular astrology.Same thing with Barack Obama's chart. Jupiter is in 12th house if we use KP system. G. Singh's explanation of Obama's rise if fine. I am looking to see if there is any other thoughts by learned members. Thanks.Name Bush, George W. Gender: M Birthname Bush, George Walker born on 6 July 1946 at 07:26 (= 07:26 AM ) Place New Haven CT, USA, 41n18, 72w55 Timezone EDT h4w (is daylight saving time) Data source Quoted BC/BR Rodden Rating AA M.Sharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Dear Friends, Perhaps M. Sharma would like to have the second opinion, and so I request other members to give comment on these two charts as given in the messages below. Thanks and regards, TW /message/27451 /message/27436 /message/27437 , " mssumich " <mssumich wrote: > > Respected members > How can one explain George W. Bush's rise in Saturn dasa using KP System? Saturn is in 12th house according to the placidus house system. Saturn is no doubt strong being in Pushya nakshatra. One can explain using vedic or regular astrology. > > Same thing with Barack Obama's chart. Jupiter is in 12th house if we use KP system. G. Singh's explanation of Obama's rise if fine. I am looking to see if there is any other thoughts by learned members. Thanks. > > > Name Bush, George W. Gender: M > > Birthname Bush, George Walker > born on 6 July 1946 at 07:26 (= 07:26 AM ) > Place New Haven CT, USA, 41n18, 72w55 > Timezone EDT h4w (is daylight saving time) > Data source Quoted BC/BR Rodden Rating AA > > M.Sharma > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Dear Lajmiji The email had details of GW Bush birth from AStrodatabank. Sat is in Saturn's sub also (also own star pushya). Thank you sir. From Jhora, here is the copy/paste. Body/Cusp Nakshatra lord Sub lord Prati-sub Sookshma-sub Praana-sub Deha-sub As Sa Ra Ke Ma Ma Sa Su Ju Ju Ke Ke Sa Ra Mo Ma Ma Sa Ra Me Ra Ma Ve Mo Mo Ve Sa Sa Me Me Me Me Ra Ra Ma Ju Ma Ra Me Ma Ma Mo Ve Me Sa Me Sa Ve Su Sa Sa Sa Sa Ve Me Ra Ra Ma Ju Sa Ra Ma Sa Ke Me Ju Sa Ra Ma Sa Ur Ma Ju Ju Sa Sa Ra Ne Mo Ra Me Ra Ra Ra Pl Me Me Mo Ke Ju Sa 1st house Sa Ra Ke Ma Ma Sa 2nd house Ke Mo Ve Mo Ra Ra 3rd house Su Ra Ju Ke Me Ju 4th house Ma Me Ra Me Ve Sa 5th house Sa Ke Sa Sa Me Ma 6th house Ve Ve Ve Sa Ra Ve 7th house Mo Ju Ju Ra Ju Me 8th house Ma Ve Me Mo Ra Ra 9th house Ju Mo Ra Sa Sa Ju 10th house Ke Ve Su Ju Me Sa 11th house Su Ve Ve Mo Ve Ve 12th house Ra Me Ra Ra Ju Me , Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi wrote: > > Dear mssumich, > Kindly give the Star and sub in which Saturn is placed...However,whenever a person rises high in Saturn's Dasa...Saturn also brings about an ignominous downfall/exit too... > Morarji Desai is a classic exmple...there are many others too... > Looking forward to the correct DOB,TOB, & POB (with Lat & Long)...of George Bush... > Will send explanation... > Yogesh Lajmi. > > --- On Mon, 10/12/09, mssumich <mssumich wrote: > > > mssumich <mssumich > George W. Bush's chart > > Monday, October 12, 2009, 4:02 PM > > > > > > > Respected members > How can one explain George W. Bush's rise in Saturn dasa using KP System? Saturn is in 12th house according to the placidus house system. Saturn is no doubt strong being in Pushya nakshatra. One can explain using vedic or regular astrology. > > Same thing with Barack Obama's chart. Jupiter is in 12th house if we use KP system. G. Singh's explanation of Obama's rise if fine. I am looking to see if there is any other thoughts by learned members. Thanks. > > Name Bush, George W. Gender: M > > Birthname Bush, George Walker > born on 6 July 1946 at 07:26 (= 07:26 AM ) > Place New Haven CT, USA, 41n18, 72w55 > Timezone EDT h4w (is daylight saving time) > Data source Quoted BC/BR Rodden Rating AA > > M.Sharma > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Dear M.Sharma, As discussed whenever you discuss about some chart you(the originator) cast the chart and upload it in the files section for the discussion to help the members along with some cross reference. It may take few minutes you may please do the needful. Thanks with regards, D.Senthil --- On Mon, 10/12/09, mssumich <mssumich wrote: mssumich <mssumich George W. Bush's chart Date: Monday, October 12, 2009, 9:02 AM Respected membersHow can one explain George W. Bush's rise in Saturn dasa using KP System? Saturn is in 12th house according to the placidus house system. Saturn is no doubt strong being in Pushya nakshatra. One can explain using vedic or regular astrology.Same thing with Barack Obama's chart. Jupiter is in 12th house if we use KP system. G. Singh's explanation of Obama's rise if fine. I am looking to see if there is any other thoughts by learned members. Thanks.Name Bush, George W. Gender: M Birthname Bush, George Walker born on 6 July 1946 at 07:26 (= 07:26 AM ) Place New Haven CT, USA, 41n18, 72w55 Timezone EDT h4w (is daylight saving time) Data source Quoted BC/BR Rodden Rating AA M.Sharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Dear Punit ji, Would it be a precondition for discussion in this group? Thanks and regards, TW , Senthil <athi_ram wrote: > > Dear M.Sharma, > > As discussed whenever you discuss about some chart you(the originator) cast the chart and upload it in the files section for the discussion to help the members along with some cross reference. It may take few minutes you may please do the needful. > > Thanks with regards, > > D.Senthil > > > --- On Mon, 10/12/09, mssumich <mssumich wrote: > > > mssumich <mssumich > George W. Bush's chart > > Monday, October 12, 2009, 9:02 AM > > > > > > > Respected members > How can one explain George W. Bush's rise in Saturn dasa using KP System? Saturn is in 12th house according to the placidus house system. Saturn is no doubt strong being in Pushya nakshatra. One can explain using vedic or regular astrology. > > Same thing with Barack Obama's chart. Jupiter is in 12th house if we use KP system. G. Singh's explanation of Obama's rise if fine. I am looking to see if there is any other thoughts by learned members. Thanks. > > Name Bush, George W. Gender: M > > Birthname Bush, George Walker > born on 6 July 1946 at 07:26 (= 07:26 AM ) > Place New Haven CT, USA, 41n18, 72w55 > Timezone EDT h4w (is daylight saving time) > Data source Quoted BC/BR Rodden Rating AA > > M.Sharma > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Dear Tw ji, plesae treat it as a suggestion than the obligation. Dea Senthil ji, though the idea is very good, it is a time taking process. It is not easy with all software to export and then upload. I am working on a software that will simplify this process and hope that will make it easier to fulfil this need. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 5:39 PM, TW <tw853 wrote: Dear Punit ji,Would it be a precondition for discussion in this group?Thanks and regards,TW , Senthil <athi_ram wrote:>> Dear M.Sharma,> > As discussed whenever you discuss about some chart you(the originator) cast the chart and upload it in the files section for the discussion to help the members along with some cross reference. It may take few minutes you may please do the needful. > > Thanks with regards,> > D.Senthil> > > --- On Mon, 10/12/09, mssumich <mssumich wrote:> > > mssumich <mssumich > George W. Bush's chart> > Monday, October 12, 2009, 9:02 AM > > > > > > > Respected members> How can one explain George W. Bush's rise in Saturn dasa using KP System? Saturn is in 12th house according to the placidus house system. Saturn is no doubt strong being in Pushya nakshatra. One can explain using vedic or regular astrology. > > Same thing with Barack Obama's chart. Jupiter is in 12th house if we use KP system. G. Singh's explanation of Obama's rise if fine. I am looking to see if there is any other thoughts by learned members. Thanks. > > Name Bush, George W. Gender: M > > Birthname Bush, George Walker > born on 6 July 1946 at 07:26 (= 07:26 AM ) > Place New Haven CT, USA, 41n18, 72w55 > Timezone EDT h4w (is daylight saving time) > Data source Quoted BC/BR Rodden Rating AA > > M.Sharma> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Dear Punit, I have told as a suggestion only. There is no condition is put to our forum members. It is a request only. While we were working on Quiz-8 posted by me have given the details like the judgment date/time/place including lat/long except the chart but still most of our members have asked me to upload/attach the file for quick reference (though it may take few minute time 5x2 min=10 min to cast). Since I was the originator (quiz master) of that quiz-8 and had all the charts so uploaded the same to save some time. Some of our members may be finding it difficult to attach the chart (due to many other commitments/work etc) so let the members can decide whether to attach/upload chart or to give birth/horary details to cast the chart by individuals. Hope you will come out with good software to help the forum members soon. GOOD LUCK! Thanks with regards, D.Senthil--- On Tue, 10/13/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: Punit Pandey <punitpRe: Re: George W. Bush's chart Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 5:26 AM Dear Tw ji, plesae treat it as a suggestion than the obligation. Dea Senthil ji, though the idea is very good, it is a time taking process. It is not easy with all software to export and then upload. I am working on a software that will simplify this process and hope that will make it easier to fulfil this need. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 5:39 PM, TW <tw853 > wrote: Dear Punit ji,Would it be a precondition for discussion in this group?Thanks and regards,TW @gro ups.com, Senthil <athi_ram wrote:>> Dear M.Sharma,> > As discussed whenever you discuss about some chart you(the originator) cast the chart and upload it in the files section for the discussion to help the members along with some cross reference. It may take few minutes you may please do the needful.> > Thanks with regards,> > D.Senthil> > > --- On Mon, 10/12/09, mssumich <mssumich wrote:> > > mssumich <mssumich > George W. Bush's chart> @gro ups.com> Monday, October 12, 2009, 9:02 AM> > > > > > > Respected members> How can one explain George W. Bush's rise in Saturn dasa using KP System? Saturn is in 12th house according to the placidus house system. Saturn is no doubt strong being in Pushya nakshatra. One can explain using vedic or regular astrology.> > Same thing with Barack Obama's chart. Jupiter is in 12th house if we use KP system. G. Singh's explanation of Obama's rise if fine. I am looking to see if there is any other thoughts by learned members. Thanks.> > Name Bush, George W. Gender: M > > Birthname Bush, George Walker > born on 6 July 1946 at 07:26 (= 07:26 AM ) > Place New Haven CT, USA, 41n18, 72w55 > Timezone EDT h4w (is daylight saving time) > Data source Quoted BC/BR Rodden Rating AA > > M.Sharma> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Dear Friends, Technically no problem at all as some charts were uploaded in the File section whenever it was necessary. Regards, TW , Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: > > Dear Tw ji, plesae treat it as a suggestion than the obligation. > > Dea Senthil ji, though the idea is very good, it is a time taking process. > It is not easy with all software to export and then upload. I am working on > a software that will simplify this process and hope that will make it easier > to fulfil this need. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 5:39 PM, TW <tw853 wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Punit ji, > > Would it be a precondition for discussion in this group? > > Thanks and regards, > > TW > > > > <%40>, Senthil > > <athi_ram@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear M.Sharma, > > > > > > As discussed whenever you discuss about some chart you(the > > originator) cast the chart and upload it in the files section for the > > discussion to help the members along with some cross reference. It may take > > few minutes you may please do the needful. > > > > > > Thanks with regards, > > > > > > D.Senthil > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 10/12/09, mssumich <mssumich@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > mssumich <mssumich@> > > > George W. Bush's chart > > > <%40> > > > Monday, October 12, 2009, 9:02 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected members > > > How can one explain George W. Bush's rise in Saturn dasa using KP System? > > Saturn is in 12th house according to the placidus house system. Saturn is no > > doubt strong being in Pushya nakshatra. One can explain using vedic or > > regular astrology. > > > > > > Same thing with Barack Obama's chart. Jupiter is in 12th house if we use > > KP system. G. Singh's explanation of Obama's rise if fine. I am looking to > > see if there is any other thoughts by learned members. Thanks. > > > > > > Name Bush, George W. Gender: M > > > > > > Birthname Bush, George Walker > > > born on 6 July 1946 at 07:26 (= 07:26 AM ) > > > Place New Haven CT, USA, 41n18, 72w55 > > > Timezone EDT h4w (is daylight saving time) > > > Data source Quoted BC/BR Rodden Rating AA > > > > > > M.Sharma > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Dear M. Sharma, It is understandable that how they won in those charts are not so clear cut and would be more difficult to justify in the charts of Tony Blair with all round 12th signification and Indira Gandhi (with commonly used 11:11 PM TOB) for her peak in Saturn-Saturn Dasa-Bhukti. Regards, TW , Senthil <athi_ram wrote: > > Dear Punit, > > I have told as a suggestion only. There is no condition is put to our forum members. It is a request only. > > While we were working on Quiz-8 posted by me have given the details like the judgment date/time/place including lat/long except the chart but still most of our members have asked me to upload/attach the file for quick reference (though it may take few minute time 5x2 min=10 min to cast). Since I was the originator (quiz master) of that quiz-8 and had all the charts so uploaded the same to save some time. > > Some of our members may be finding it difficult to attach the chart (due to many other commitments/work etc) so let the members can decide whether to attach/upload chart or to give birth/horary details to cast the chart by individuals. > > Hope you will come out with good software to help the forum members soon. > > GOOD LUCK! > > Thanks with regards, > > D.Senthil > > --- On Tue, 10/13/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: > > > Punit Pandey <punitp > Re: Re: George W. Bush's chart > > Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 5:26 AM > > > > > > > > Dear Tw ji, plesae treat it as a suggestion than the obligation. > > Dea Senthil ji, though the idea is very good, it is a time taking process. It is not easy with all software to export and then upload. I am working on a software that will simplify this process and hope that will make it easier to fulfil this need. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 5:39 PM, TW <tw853 > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Punit ji, > Would it be a precondition for discussion in this group? > Thanks and regards, > TW > > > @gro ups.com, Senthil <athi_ram@> wrote: > > > > Dear M.Sharma, > > > > As discussed whenever you discuss about some chart you(the originator) cast the chart and upload it in the files section for the discussion to help the members along with some cross reference. It may take few minutes you may please do the needful. > > > > Thanks with regards, > > > > D.Senthil > > > > > > --- On Mon, 10/12/09, mssumich <mssumich@> wrote: > > > > > > mssumich <mssumich@> > > > George W. Bush's chart > > @gro ups.com > > Monday, October 12, 2009, 9:02 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected members > > How can one explain George W. Bush's rise in Saturn dasa using KP System? Saturn is in 12th house according to the placidus house system. Saturn is no doubt strong being in Pushya nakshatra. One can explain using vedic or regular astrology. > > > > Same thing with Barack Obama's chart. Jupiter is in 12th house if we use KP system. G. Singh's explanation of Obama's rise if fine. I am looking to see if there is any other thoughts by learned members. Thanks. > > > > Name Bush, George W. Gender: M > > > > Birthname Bush, George Walker > > born on 6 July 1946 at 07:26 (= 07:26 AM ) > > Place New Haven CT, USA, 41n18, 72w55 > > Timezone EDT h4w (is daylight saving time) > > Data source Quoted BC/BR Rodden Rating AA > > > > M.Sharma > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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