Guest guest Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Dear Astrologers, There is a news in Mumbai Mirror (supplement of Times of India) dated 16th Oct, 09 which attracted me & made me think to put it in the forum for information of all. A rationalist group, "Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti" (known as ANS) has announced a reward of Rs 21 Lakh to any astrologer who can predict correctly result of the 13th Oct, 09 Assembly elections. The participants will have to explain scientifically how they have arrived to that conclusion. There is no restriction on what type of astrology one uses. Only the thing is that the astrology used must be based on planetary positions. Participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. ANS has Rs 30 lakh in SBI A/C No. 606265 & astrologers don't have to worry whether they will really be paid after winning. (This is what given in paper) Name of the group is in Marathi & the meaning is "Committee for removal of blind faith" I am not a member of ANS & strongly believe in astrology. Most probably the ANS group is based in Pune & our group members who are from Pune can get the details of contact numbers etc easily from local nws papers. I request the Pune members to help accordingly. Wish you all very best of luck ! Vishram Deshpande Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Dear Deshpande ji and Friends, This email clearly shows ignorance of " Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti. " It shows that they are trying to create confusion in public's mind by announcing such an award. Now see the statement. They say " participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. " Now I wonder where does astrology claim that astrology can predict number of seats won by each major party? There is no rule in any astrology classic whether it is Brihat Jatak, BPHS or KP readers and any other astrology book. This is like asking medical science to show they can cure AIDS patient otherwise they will assume that medical science is blind-faith. This is like asking astronomers to show them landing a rocket on Sun otherwise they will assume astronomy and physics as blind-faith. This is absolutely ridiculous. Like astronomy / physics / medical science, astrology also has limitations. In fact, every science has limitations and that is the reason science is serviving / researching. What can be predicted by astrology is clearly documented and I wish they have courage to put a challenge based on that. Like other sciences, research is going on in astrology with an attempt to improve our predictive knowledge and like scientists we wish that we will be able to predict winning seat some day. But if astrologers can not predict winning-seats, it should not mean that astrology is blind-faith. To conclude, They should stop fooling the society by throwing such ridiculous challenges. People should also be careful with such fraudulent challenges. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande wrote: Dear Astrologers, There is a news in Mumbai Mirror (supplement of Times of India) dated 16th Oct, 09 which attracted me & made me think to put it in the forum for information of all. A rationalist group, " Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti " (known as ANS) has announced a reward of Rs 21 Lakh to any astrologer who can predict correctly result of the 13th Oct, 09 Assembly elections. The participants will have to explain scientifically how they have arrived to that conclusion. There is no restriction on what type of astrology one uses. Only the thing is that the astrology used must be based on planetary positions. Participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. ANS has Rs 30 lakh in SBI A/C No. 606265 & astrologers don't have to worry whether they will really be paid after winning. (This is what given in paper) Name of the group is in Marathi & the meaning is " Committee for removal of blind faith " I am not a member of ANS & strongly believe in astrology. Most probably the ANS group is based in Pune & our group members who are from Pune can get the details of contact numbers etc easily from local nws papers. I request the Pune members to help accordingly. Wish you all very best of luck ! Vishram Deshpande Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Deae Sri Punit Pandeyji, In my opinion, nothing is impossible in Astrology. In K.P.system itself, Shri Kanak Bosmia has written an Article in September, 2007 E.Zine, finding how many sticks are there in a box with the help of RP & horary No. Even in KP Reader, I remember to have read about how many letters in the bag. Somr Articles also appearen In KP Astrology annual or monthly on this subject. Can’t we apply this method to find out how many seats eaxh party will win out of those No.s for wich they contested? Truly yours, K.S.V.Ramani On Behalf Of Punit Pandey 16 October 2009 15:42 Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Deshpande ji and Friends, This email clearly shows ignorance of " Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti. " It shows that they are trying to create confusion in public's mind by announcing such an award. Now see the statement. They say " participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. " Now I wonder where does astrology claim that astrology can predict number of seats won by each major party? There is no rule in any astrology classic whether it is Brihat Jatak, BPHS or KP readers and any other astrology book. This is like asking medical science to show they can cure AIDS patient otherwise they will assume that medical science is blind-faith. This is like asking astronomers to show them landing a rocket on Sun otherwise they will assume astronomy and physics as blind-faith. This is absolutely ridiculous. Like astronomy / physics / medical science, astrology also has limitations. In fact, every science has limitations and that is the reason science is serviving / researching. What can be predicted by astrology is clearly documented and I wish they have courage to put a challenge based on that. Like other sciences, research is going on in astrology with an attempt to improve our predictive knowledge and like scientists we wish that we will be able to predict winning seat some day. But if astrologers can not predict winning-seats, it should not mean that astrology is blind-faith. To conclude, They should stop fooling the society by throwing such ridiculous challenges. People should also be careful with such fraudulent challenges. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Astrologers, There is a news in Mumbai Mirror (supplement of Times of India) dated 16th Oct, 09 which attracted me & made me think to put it in the forum for information of all. A rationalist group, " Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti " (known as ANS) has announced a reward of Rs 21 Lakh to any astrologer who can predict correctly result of the 13th Oct, 09 Assembly elections. The participants will have to explain scientifically how they have arrived to that conclusion. There is no restriction on what type of astrology one uses. Only the thing is that the astrology used must be based on planetary positions. Participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. ANS has Rs 30 lakh in SBI A/C No. 606265 & astrologers don't have to worry whether they will really be paid after winning. (This is what given in paper) Name of the group is in Marathi & the meaning is " Committee for removal of blind faith " I am not a member of ANS & strongly believe in astrology. Most probably the ANS group is based in Pune & our group members who are from Pune can get the details of contact numbers etc easily from local nws papers. I request the Pune members to help accordingly. Wish you all very best of luck ! Vishram Deshpande Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Dear Members,Please refer to following two links if u r interested in participating the contest.http://www.deccanherald.com/content/30526/poll-decide-winner-astrologers-vs.htmlhttp://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_poll-to-decide-winner-of-astrologers-vs-rationalists-contest_1298809Vishram DeshpandeVishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpandeKP System Forum Fri, 16 October, 2009 9:42:44 AM Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Astrologers, There is a news in Mumbai Mirror (supplement of Times of India) dated 16th Oct, 09 which attracted me & made me think to put it in the forum for information of all. A rationalist group, "Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti" (known as ANS) has announced a reward of Rs 21 Lakh to any astrologer who can predict correctly result of the 13th Oct, 09 Assembly elections. The participants will have to explain scientifically how they have arrived to that conclusion. There is no restriction on what type of astrology one uses. Only the thing is that the astrology used must be based on planetary positions. Participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. ANS has Rs 30 lakh in SBI A/C No. 606265 & astrologers don't have to worry whether they will really be paid after winning. (This is what given in paper) Name of the group is in Marathi & the meaning is "Committee for removal of blind faith" I am not a member of ANS & strongly believe in astrology. Most probably the ANS group is based in Pune & our group members who are from Pune can get the details of contact numbers etc easily from local nws papers. I request the Pune members to help accordingly. Wish you all very best of luck ! Vishram Deshpande Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Keep up with people you care about with India Mail. Learn how. Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Dear Ramani ji, A rule is a rule if it can consistently give correct results. Unfortunately it is not the case with the rules for predicting numbers. There is no consistency. During my school days, I tried available KP rules for predicting marks and percentage of my classmates. Though the results were encouraging but nowhere near to the level where we can call it a rule. At the research level these are good and we need to continue experimenting and improving, but we should understand that these are far from being a rule that can give consistent predictions. On a closing note, I would like to say that there are too many things which are not possible in astrology. Astrology is very limited in what it can predict and we need to understand its limitation. Do you remember Shri KSK said that that height of the partner can not be predicted and research is going on? Even today it can not be predicted forget about other things. Do you remember people failed to predict marriage time with the KP rule, where marriage is one topic where Shri KSK has written a whole reader. In my opinion, if we will not understand the limitation, we will also not improve it. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Ramani <kadavasalramani wrote: Deae Sri Punit Pandeyji, In my opinion, nothing is impossible in Astrology. In K.P.system itself, Shri Kanak Bosmia has written an Article in September, 2007 E.Zine, finding how many sticks are there in a box with the help of RP & horary No. Even in KP Reader, I remember to have read about how many letters in the bag. Somr Articles also appearen In KP Astrology annual or monthly on this subject. Can’t we apply this method to find out how many seats eaxh party will win out of those No.s for wich they contested? Truly yours, K.S.V.Ramani On Behalf Of Punit Pandey 16 October 2009 15:42 Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Deshpande ji and Friends, This email clearly shows ignorance of " Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti. " It shows that they are trying to create confusion in public's mind by announcing such an award. Now see the statement. They say " participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. " Now I wonder where does astrology claim that astrology can predict number of seats won by each major party? There is no rule in any astrology classic whether it is Brihat Jatak, BPHS or KP readers and any other astrology book. This is like asking medical science to show they can cure AIDS patient otherwise they will assume that medical science is blind-faith. This is like asking astronomers to show them landing a rocket on Sun otherwise they will assume astronomy and physics as blind-faith. This is absolutely ridiculous. Like astronomy / physics / medical science, astrology also has limitations. In fact, every science has limitations and that is the reason science is serviving / researching. What can be predicted by astrology is clearly documented and I wish they have courage to put a challenge based on that. Like other sciences, research is going on in astrology with an attempt to improve our predictive knowledge and like scientists we wish that we will be able to predict winning seat some day. But if astrologers can not predict winning-seats, it should not mean that astrology is blind-faith. To conclude, They should stop fooling the society by throwing such ridiculous challenges. People should also be careful with such fraudulent challenges. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande wrote: Dear Astrologers, There is a news in Mumbai Mirror (supplement of Times of India) dated 16th Oct, 09 which attracted me & made me think to put it in the forum for information of all. A rationalist group, " Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti " (known as ANS) has announced a reward of Rs 21 Lakh to any astrologer who can predict correctly result of the 13th Oct, 09 Assembly elections. The participants will have to explain scientifically how they have arrived to that conclusion. There is no restriction on what type of astrology one uses. Only the thing is that the astrology used must be based on planetary positions. Participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. ANS has Rs 30 lakh in SBI A/C No. 606265 & astrologers don't have to worry whether they will really be paid after winning. (This is what given in paper) Name of the group is in Marathi & the meaning is " Committee for removal of blind faith " I am not a member of ANS & strongly believe in astrology. Most probably the ANS group is based in Pune & our group members who are from Pune can get the details of contact numbers etc easily from local nws papers. I request the Pune members to help accordingly. Wish you all very best of luck ! Vishram Deshpande Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Hi Anything as well as everything can be predictable through astrological calculations.So many scholors have proved it. BPHS/Brihit Jatakhakya/other astrological texts has given many points how to analyse in what way.only thing is we have to understand the same and implement with care. Number of seats for each party can be predict through Benefic dots and percentage of seats. In the past i have predicted number of seats for ruling party and opposition party in general. I got succeed in 20 cases out of 24 cases. recently i have predicted (after a very long time) on 5th September 2008 itself that Mr.Manmohan singh will be the PM for 2nd term, 16th May 2009 will be the day of Manmohan singh and Ruling party will get 272/273 seats and will farm the Government. Counting date was 16th May 2009, total number of seats were 274 when the Ruling party farmed the Government on 22nd May 2009. http://churumuri.wordpress.com/2007/11/12/say-hello-to-the-famous-astrologer-kn-somayaji/ · Sahhasra Saagara Says: 5 September 2008 at 12:25 am Regards Sahhasra Saagara Ramani <kadavasalramani Sent: Fri, 16 October, 2009 7:52:59 PMFW: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Deae Sri Punit Pandeyji, In my opinion, nothing is impossible in Astrology. In K.P.system itself, Shri Kanak Bosmia has written an Article in September, 2007 E.Zine, finding how many sticks are there in a box with the help of RP & horary No. Even in KP Reader, I remember to have read about how many letters in the bag. Somr Articles also appearen In KP Astrology annual or monthly on this subject. Can’t we apply this method to find out how many seats eaxh party will win out of those No.s for wich they contested? Truly yours, K.S.V.Ramani @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Punit Pandey16 October 2009 15:42@gro ups.comRe: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Deshpande ji and Friends, This email clearly shows ignorance of "Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti." It shows that they are trying to create confusion in public's mind by announcing such an award. Now see the statement. They say "participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. " Now I wonder where does astrology claim that astrology can predict number of seats won by each major party? There is no rule in any astrology classic whether it is Brihat Jatak, BPHS or KP readers and any other astrology book. This is like asking medical science to show they can cure AIDS patient otherwise they will assume that medical science is blind-faith. This is like asking astronomers to show them landing a rocket on Sun otherwise they will assume astronomy and physics as blind-faith. This is absolutely ridiculous. Like astronomy / physics / medical science, astrology also has limitations. In fact, every science has limitations and that is the reason science is serviving / researching. What can be predicted by astrology is clearly documented and I wish they have courage to put a challenge based on that. Like other sciences, research is going on in astrology with an attempt to improve our predictive knowledge and like scientists we wish that we will be able to predict winning seat some day. But if astrologers can not predict winning-seats, it should not mean that astrology is blind-faith. To conclude, They should stop fooling the society by throwing such ridiculous challenge s. People should also be careful with such fraudulent challenges. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in> wrote: Dear Astrologers, There is a news in Mumbai Mirror (supplement of Times of India) dated 16th Oct, 09 which attracted me & made me think to put it in the forum for information of all. A rationalist group, "Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti" (known as ANS) has announced a reward of Rs 21 Lakh to any astrologer who can predict correctly result of the 13th Oct, 09 Assembly elections. The participants will have to explain scientifically how they have arrived to that conclusion. There is no restriction on what type of astrology one uses. Only the thing is that the astrology used must be based on planetary positions. Participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. ANS has Rs 30 lakh in SBI A/C No. 606265 & astrologers don't have to worry whether they will really be paid after winning. (This is what given in paper) Name of the group is in Marathi & the meaning is "Committee for removal of blind faith" I am not a member of ANS & strongly believe in astrology. Most probably the ANS group is based in Pune & our group members who are from Pune can get the details of contact numbers etc easily from local nws papers. I request the Pune members to help accordingly. Wish you all very best of luck ! Vishram Deshpande Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Connect more, do more and share more with India Mail. Learn more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Dear Shri Punit Pangeyji, Many thanks for your convincing views & noted. Truly yours, K.S.V.Ramani On Behalf Of Punit Pandey 16 October 2009 23:42 Re: FW: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Ramani ji, A rule is a rule if it can consistently give correct results. Unfortunately it is not the case with the rules for predicting numbers. There is no consistency. During my school days, I tried available KP rules for predicting marks and percentage of my classmates. Though the results were encouraging but nowhere near to the level where we can call it a rule. At the research level these are good and we need to continue experimenting and improving, but we should understand that these are far from being a rule that can give consistent predictions. On a closing note, I would like to say that there are too many things which are not possible in astrology. Astrology is very limited in what it can predict and we need to understand its limitation. Do you remember Shri KSK said that that height of the partner can not be predicted and research is going on? Even today it can not be predicted forget about other things. Do you remember people failed to predict marriage time with the KP rule, where marriage is one topic where Shri KSK has written a whole reader. In my opinion, if we will not understand the limitation, we will also not improve it. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Ramani <kadavasalramani > wrote: Deae Sri Punit Pandeyji, In my opinion, nothing is impossible in Astrology. In K.P.system itself, Shri Kanak Bosmia has written an Article in September, 2007 E.Zine, finding how many sticks are there in a box with the help of RP & horary No. Even in KP Reader, I remember to have read about how many letters in the bag. Somr Articles also appearen In KP Astrology annual or monthly on this subject. Can’t we apply this method to find out how many seats eaxh party will win out of those No.s for wich they contested? Truly yours, K.S.V.Ramani On Behalf Of Punit Pandey 16 October 2009 15:42 Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Deshpande ji and Friends, This email clearly shows ignorance of " Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti. " It shows that they are trying to create confusion in public's mind by announcing such an award. Now see the statement. They say " participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. " Now I wonder where does astrology claim that astrology can predict number of seats won by each major party? There is no rule in any astrology classic whether it is Brihat Jatak, BPHS or KP readers and any other astrology book. This is like asking medical science to show they can cure AIDS patient otherwise they will assume that medical science is blind-faith. This is like asking astronomers to show them landing a rocket on Sun otherwise they will assume astronomy and physics as blind-faith. This is absolutely ridiculous. Like astronomy / physics / medical science, astrology also has limitations. In fact, every science has limitations and that is the reason science is serviving / researching. What can be predicted by astrology is clearly documented and I wish they have courage to put a challenge based on that. Like other sciences, research is going on in astrology with an attempt to improve our predictive knowledge and like scientists we wish that we will be able to predict winning seat some day. But if astrologers can not predict winning-seats, it should not mean that astrology is blind-faith. To conclude, They should stop fooling the society by throwing such ridiculous challenges. People should also be careful with such fraudulent challenges. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Astrologers, There is a news in Mumbai Mirror (supplement of Times of India) dated 16th Oct, 09 which attracted me & made me think to put it in the forum for information of all. A rationalist group, " Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti " (known as ANS) has announced a reward of Rs 21 Lakh to any astrologer who can predict correctly result of the 13th Oct, 09 Assembly elections. The participants will have to explain scientifically how they have arrived to that conclusion. There is no restriction on what type of astrology one uses. Only the thing is that the astrology used must be based on planetary positions. Participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. ANS has Rs 30 lakh in SBI A/C No. 606265 & astrologers don't have to worry whether they will really be paid after winning. (This is what given in paper) Name of the group is in Marathi & the meaning is " Committee for removal of blind faith " I am not a member of ANS & strongly believe in astrology. Most probably the ANS group is based in Pune & our group members who are from Pune can get the details of contact numbers etc easily from local nws papers. I request the Pune members to help accordingly. Wish you all very best of luck ! Vishram Deshpande Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Dear Punit Pandey ji,In a Marathi book "Krishnamurti Jyotish Rahasya" late Suresh Shahasane has written a chapter on mathematical use of Ruling Planets. In the chapter, he has given examples of exam marks coming correct as predicted. Why can't this be taken by seniors for further research ? Thus, within few years from now, there could be a rule to find out exam marks. Few years back, a man walking on moon was considered as almost impossible, but exhaustive researches made this thinking change. Now we see that every day there is something new happening (water on moon...) which was considered impossible few years back.Even before our Guruji KSK developed KP theory, all astrologers (in those days) must be thinking that predicting in such a pinpointed way must be impossible, but Guruji made them change their views.Stopping researches under impression that the things are just impossible, will lead to penetration of "new rules" in KP fixed by some one who doesn't have that ability but have enough money to publish books.This is what I think about the issue.thanks & regards.Vishram DeshpandeRamani <kadavasalramani Sent: Sat, 17 October, 2009 11:46:40 AMFW: FW: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Shri Punit Pangeyji, Many thanks for your convincing views & noted. Truly yours, K.S.V.Ramani @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Punit Pandey 16 October 2009 23:42 To: @gro ups.com Re: FW: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Ramani ji, A rule is a rule if it can consistently give correct results. Unfortunately it is not the case with the rules for predicting numbers. There is no consistency. During my school days, I tried available KP rules for predicting marks and percentage of my classmates. Though the results were encouraging but nowhere near to the level where we can call it a rule. At the research level these are good and we need to continue experimenting and improving, but we should understand that these are far from being a rule that can give consistent predictions. On a closing note, I would like to say that there are too many things which are not possible in astrology. Astrology is very limited in what it can predict and we need to understand its limitation. Do you remember Shri KSK said that that height of the partner can not be predicted and research is going on? Even today it can not be predicted forget about other things. Do you remember people failed to predict marriage time with the KP rule, where marriage is one topic where Shri KSK has written a whole reader. In my opinion, if we will not understand the limitation, we will also not improve it. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: Deae Sri Punit Pandeyji, In my opinion, nothing is impossible in Astrology. In K.P.system itself, Shri Kanak Bosmia has written an Article in September, 2007 E.Zine, finding how many sticks are there in a box with the help of RP & horary No. Even in KP Reader, I remember to have read about how many letters in the bag. Somr Articles also appearen In KP Astrology annual or monthly on this subject. Can’t we apply this method to find out how many seats eaxh party will win out of those No.s for wich they contested? Truly yours, K.S.V.Ramani @gro ups.com [@gro ups.com] On Behalf Of Punit Pandey 16 October 2009 15:42 @gro ups.com Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Deshpande ji and Friends, This email clearly shows ignorance of "Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti." It shows that they are trying to create confusion in public's mind by announcing such an award. Now see the statement. They say "participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. " Now I wonder where does astrology claim that astrology can predict number of seats won by each major party? There is no rule in any astrology classic whether it is Brihat Jatak, BPHS or KP readers and any other astrology book. This is like asking medical science to show they can cure AIDS patient otherwise they will assume that medical science is blind-faith. This is like asking astronomers to show them landing a rocket on Sun otherwise they will assume astronomy and physics as blind-faith. This is absolutely ridiculous. Like astronomy / physics / medical science, astrology also has limitations. In fact, every science has limitations and that is the reason science is serviving / researching. What can be predicted by astrology is clearly documented and I wish they have courage to put a challenge based on that. Like other sciences, research is going on in astrology with an attempt to improve our predictive knowledge and like scientists we wish that we will be able to predict winning seat some day. But if astrologers can not predict winning-seats, it should not mean that astrology is blind-faith. To conclude, They should stop fooling the society by throwing such ridiculous challenge s. People should also be careful with such fraudulent challenges. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in> wrote: Dear Astrologers, There is a news in Mumbai Mirror (supplement of Times of India) dated 16th Oct, 09 which attracted me & made me think to put it in the forum for information of all. A rationalist group, "Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti" (known as ANS) has announced a reward of Rs 21 Lakh to any astrologer who can predict correctly result of the 13th Oct, 09 Assembly elections. The participants will have to explain scientifically how they have arrived to that conclusion. There is no restriction on what type of astrology one uses. Only the thing is that the astrology used must be based on planetary positions. Participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. ANS has Rs 30 lakh in SBI A/C No. 606265 & astrologers don't have to worry whether they will really be paid after winning. (This is what given in paper) Name of the group is in Marathi & the meaning is "Committee for removal of blind faith" I am not a member of ANS & strongly believe in astrology. Most probably the ANS group is based in Pune & our group members who are from Pune can get the details of contact numbers etc easily from local nws papers. I request the Pune members to help accordingly. Wish you all very best of luck ! Vishram Deshpande Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Keep up with people you care about with India Mail. Learn how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Dear learned and Respected members, I am agree with punit ji and vote for him. suresh awasthi--- On Fri, 10/16/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: Punit Pandey <punitpRe: FW: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 6:11 PM Dear Ramani ji, A rule is a rule if it can consistently give correct results. Unfortunately it is not the case with the rules for predicting numbers. There is no consistency. During my school days, I tried available KP rules for predicting marks and percentage of my classmates. Though the results were encouraging but nowhere near to the level where we can call it a rule. At the research level these are good and we need to continue experimenting and improving, but we should understand that these are far from being a rule that can give consistent predictions. On a closing note, I would like to say that there are too many things which are not possible in astrology. Astrology is very limited in what it can predict and we need to understand its limitation. Do you remember Shri KSK said that that height of the partner can not be predicted and research is going on? Even today it can not be predicted forget about other things. Do you remember people failed to predict marriage time with the KP rule, where marriage is one topic where Shri KSK has written a whole reader. In my opinion, if we will not understand the limitation, we will also not improve it. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: Deae Sri Punit Pandeyji, In my opinion, nothing is impossible in Astrology. In K.P.system itself, Shri Kanak Bosmia has written an Article in September, 2007 E.Zine, finding how many sticks are there in a box with the help of RP & horary No. Even in KP Reader, I remember to have read about how many letters in the bag. Somr Articles also appearen In KP Astrology annual or monthly on this subject. Can’t we apply this method to find out how many seats eaxh party will win out of those No.s for wich they contested? Truly yours, K.S.V.Ramani @gro ups.com [@gro ups.com] On Behalf Of Punit Pandey16 October 2009 15:42@gro ups.comRe: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Deshpande ji and Friends, This email clearly shows ignorance of "Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti." It shows that they are trying to create confusion in public's mind by announcing such an award. Now see the statement. They say "participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. " Now I wonder where does astrology claim that astrology can predict number of seats won by each major party? There is no rule in any astrology classic whether it is Brihat Jatak, BPHS or KP readers and any other astrology book. This is like asking medical science to show they can cure AIDS patient otherwise they will assume that medical science is blind-faith. This is like asking astronomers to show them landing a rocket on Sun otherwise they will assume astronomy and physics as blind-faith. This is absolutely ridiculous. Like astronomy / physics / medical science, astrology also has limitations. In fact, every science has limitations and that is the reason science is serviving / researching. What can be predicted by astrology is clearly documented and I wish they have courage to put a challenge based on that. Like other sciences, research is going on in astrology with an attempt to improve our predictive knowledge and like scientists we wish that we will be able to predict winning seat some day. But if astrologers can not predict winning-seats, it should not mean that astrology is blind-faith. To conclude, They should stop fooling the society by throwing such ridiculous challenge s. People should also be careful with such fraudulent challenges. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in> wrote: Dear Astrologers, There is a news in Mumbai Mirror (supplement of Times of India) dated 16th Oct, 09 which attracted me & made me think to put it in the forum for information of all. A rationalist group, "Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti" (known as ANS) has announced a reward of Rs 21 Lakh to any astrologer who can predict correctly result of the 13th Oct, 09 Assembly elections. The participants will have to explain scientifically how they have arrived to that conclusion. There is no restriction on what type of astrology one uses. Only the thing is that the astrology used must be based on planetary positions. Participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. ANS has Rs 30 lakh in SBI A/C No. 606265 & astrologers don't have to worry whether they will really be paid after winning. (This is what given in paper) Name of the group is in Marathi & the meaning is "Committee for removal of blind faith" I am not a member of ANS & strongly believe in astrology. Most probably the ANS group is based in Pune & our group members who are from Pune can get the details of contact numbers etc easily from local nws papers. I request the Pune members to help accordingly. Wish you all very best of luck ! Vishram Deshpande Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Dear Sagar ji, They say " one swallow does not make a summer " . Not too long, we struggled predicting correct time of marriage. Forum archive can give good hint of general success and failure. In such a situation a claim like " Anything as well as everything can be predictable through astrological calculations " seems too tall a claim to me. Anyways, I have a suggestion to test your rule. Why don't you go and predict results of all three state elections. It will give use at least three test cases and give us some indication of success percentage. The success percentage that you are claiming (20 out of 24 i.e. more than 83%) should be good enough to make it a rule, if proven. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey PS: Please do not take it as an attempt to belittle any rule or knowledge. But as an astrologer, the point made as well as success claimed are hard to believe for me. On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Sagar S <ssagar86 wrote: Hi Anything as well as everything can be predictable through astrological calculations.So many scholors have proved it. BPHS/Brihit Jatakhakya/other astrological texts has given many points how to analyse in what way.only thing is we have to understand the same and implement with care. Number of seats for each party can be predict through Benefic dots and percentage of seats. In the past i have predicted number of seats for ruling party and opposition party in general. I got succeed in 20 cases out of 24 cases. recently i have predicted (after a very long time) on 5th September 2008 itself that Mr.Manmohan singh will be the PM for 2nd term, 16th May 2009 will be the day of Manmohan singh and Ruling party will get 272/273 seats and will farm the Government. Counting date was 16th May 2009, total number of seats were 274 when the Ruling party farmed the Government on 22nd May 2009. http://churumuri.wordpress.com/2007/11/12/say-hello-to-the-famous-astrologer-kn-somayaji/ · Sahhasra Saagara Says: 5 September 2008 at 12:25 am Regards Sahhasra Saagara Ramani <kadavasalramani Sent: Fri, 16 October, 2009 7:52:59 PM FW: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Deae Sri Punit Pandeyji, In my opinion, nothing is impossible in Astrology. In K.P.system itself, Shri Kanak Bosmia has written an Article in September, 2007 E.Zine, finding how many sticks are there in a box with the help of RP & horary No. Even in KP Reader, I remember to have read about how many letters in the bag. Somr Articles also appearen In KP Astrology annual or monthly on this subject. Can’t we apply this method to find out how many seats eaxh party will win out of those No.s for wich they contested? Truly yours, K.S.V.Ramani @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Punit Pandey 16 October 2009 15:42@gro ups.com Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Deshpande ji and Friends, This email clearly shows ignorance of " Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti. " It shows that they are trying to create confusion in public's mind by announcing such an award. Now see the statement. They say " participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. " Now I wonder where does astrology claim that astrology can predict number of seats won by each major party? There is no rule in any astrology classic whether it is Brihat Jatak, BPHS or KP readers and any other astrology book. This is like asking medical science to show they can cure AIDS patient otherwise they will assume that medical science is blind-faith. This is like asking astronomers to show them landing a rocket on Sun otherwise they will assume astronomy and physics as blind-faith. This is absolutely ridiculous. Like astronomy / physics / medical science, astrology also has limitations. In fact, every science has limitations and that is the reason science is serviving / researching. What can be predicted by astrology is clearly documented and I wish they have courage to put a challenge based on that. Like other sciences, research is going on in astrology with an attempt to improve our predictive knowledge and like scientists we wish that we will be able to predict winning seat some day. But if astrologers can not predict winning-seats, it should not mean that astrology is blind-faith. To conclude, They should stop fooling the society by throwing such ridiculous challenge s. People should also be careful with such fraudulent challenges. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in> wrote: Dear Astrologers, There is a news in Mumbai Mirror (supplement of Times of India) dated 16th Oct, 09 which attracted me & made me think to put it in the forum for information of all. A rationalist group, " Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti " (known as ANS) has announced a reward of Rs 21 Lakh to any astrologer who can predict correctly result of the 13th Oct, 09 Assembly elections. The participants will have to explain scientifically how they have arrived to that conclusion. There is no restriction on what type of astrology one uses. Only the thing is that the astrology used must be based on planetary positions. Participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. ANS has Rs 30 lakh in SBI A/C No. 606265 & astrologers don't have to worry whether they will really be paid after winning. (This is what given in paper) Name of the group is in Marathi & the meaning is " Committee for removal of blind faith " I am not a member of ANS & strongly believe in astrology. Most probably the ANS group is based in Pune & our group members who are from Pune can get the details of contact numbers etc easily from local nws papers. I request the Pune members to help accordingly. Wish you all very best of luck ! Vishram Deshpande Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Connect more, do more and share more with India Mail. Learn more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Dear PunitYes, it is unbelievable but it is my experience and success.My first case was 1984 and my prediction was 87.5% favor for thr the ruling party congress and result was 419 seats for the ruling government.in 1985 i had predicted AGP MLA?MP seats with very accurate and i sent the same to Planets and forecast, the editor Mr.Nimai Banerji write me congradulation for the same.Pakistan peoples party victory and farmation of the same was predicted.Slilanka polls was predicted.In the recent i had predicted Manmohan singh will become PM for 2nd term with 272/273 seats , i had predicted it on 5th September 2008 that is 8 months before even before the polls date was announced.Any one can predict with the help of Benefic dots of Jupiter for the perticular month.sun ingress time chart.4th house signifies opposition,10th house signifies Ruling Government.8 benefic dots will be the highest and 8 equals to 100 or total number of seats.4th house jupiter benefic dots and 10th house jupiter benefic dots to be added and then we have to calculate percentage for the same.for ex:4th house had 6 benefic dots and 10th house had 8 benefic dots = 14 6X288--------14 =hence opp will get 123 seats and Ruling party will get 164 seats.In maharashtra polls Libra month 4th and 10th had 7 benefic dots of Jupiter hence 14 that is 50% for both RP and OPP party.288 seats 50% is 144 seats.so RP anf OPP sill secure 144 seats.I hope i have explained as per my experience.ofcourse now a days i am not keen interenct in doing all these works becoming losing interest in all these.Thanks and regardsSahhasra SaagaraPunit Pandey <punitp Sent: Sat, 17 October, 2009 4:53:10 PMRe: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Sagar ji, They say "one swallow does not make a summer". Not too long, we struggled predicting correct time of marriage. Forum archive can give good hint of general success and failure. In such a situation a claim like "Anything as well as everything can be predictable through astrological calculations" seems too tall a claim to me. Anyways, I have a suggestion to test your rule. Why don't you go and predict results of all three state elections. It will give use at least three test cases and give us some indication of success percentage. The success percentage that you are claiming (20 out of 24 i.e. more than 83%) should be good enough to make it a rule, if proven. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey PS: Please do not take it as an attempt to belittle any rule or knowledge. But as an astrologer, the point made as well as success claimed are hard to believe for me. On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Hi Anything as well as everything can be predictable through astrological calculations. So many scholors have proved it. BPHS/Brihit Jatakhakya/other astrological texts has given many points how to analyse in what way.only thing is we have to understand the same and implement with care. Number of seats for each party can be predict through Benefic dots and percentage of seats. In the past i have predicted number of seats for ruling party and opposition party in general. I got succeed in 20 cases out of 24 cases. recently i have predicted (after a very long time) on 5th September 2008 itself that Mr.Manmohan singh will be the PM for 2nd term, 16th May 2009 will be the day of Manmohan singh and Ruling party will get 272/273 seats and will farm the Government. Counting date was 16th May 2009, total number of seats were 274 when the Ruling party farmed the Government on 22nd May 2009. http://churumuri. wordpress. com/2007/ 11/12/say- hello-to- the-famous- astrologer- kn-somayaji/ · Sahhasra Saagara Says: 5 September 2008 at 12:25 am Regards Sahhasra Saagara Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> @gro ups.comFri, 16 October, 2009 7:52:59 PM FW: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Deae Sri Punit Pandeyji, In my opinion, nothing is impossible in Astrology. In K.P.system itself, Shri Kanak Bosmia has written an Article in September, 2007 E.Zine, finding how many sticks are there in a box with the help of RP & horary No. Even in KP Reader, I remember to have read about how many letters in the bag. Somr Articles also appearen In KP Astrology annual or monthly on this subject. Can’t we apply this method to find out how many seats eaxh party will win out of those No.s for wich they contested? Truly yours, K.S.V.Ramani @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Punit Pandey 16 October 2009 15:42@gro ups.com Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Deshpande ji and Friends, This email clearly shows ignorance of "Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti." It shows that they are trying to create confusion in public's mind by announcing such an award. Now see the statement. They say "participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. " Now I wonder where does astrology claim that astrology can predict number of seats won by each major party? There is no rule in any astrology classic whether it is Brihat Jatak, BPHS or KP readers and any other astrology book. This is like asking medical science to show they can cure AIDS patient otherwise they will assume that medical science is blind-faith. This is like asking astronomers to show them landing a rocket on Sun otherwise they will assume astronomy and physics as blind-faith. This is absolutely ridiculous. Like astronomy / physics / medical science, astrology also has limitations. In fact, every science has limitations and that is the reason science is serviving / researching. What can be predicted by astrology is clearly documented and I wish they have courage to put a challenge based on that. Like other sciences, research is going on in astrology with an attempt to improve our predictive knowledge and like scientists we wish that we will be able to predict winning seat some day. But if astrologers can not predict winning-seats, it should not mean that astrology is blind-faith. To conclude, They should stop fooling the society by throwing such ridiculous challenge s. People should also be careful with such fraudulent challenges. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in> wrote: Dear Astrologers, There is a news in Mumbai Mirror (supplement of Times of India) dated 16th Oct, 09 which attracted me & made me think to put it in the forum for information of all. A rationalist group, "Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti" (known as ANS) has announced a reward of Rs 21 Lakh to any astrologer who can predict correctly result of the 13th Oct, 09 Assembly elections. The participants will have to explain scientifically how they have arrived to that conclusion. There is no restriction on what type of astrology one uses. Only the thing is that the astrology used must be based on planetary positions. Participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. ANS has Rs 30 lakh in SBI A/C No. 606265 & astrologers don't have to worry whether they will really be paid after winning. (This is what given in paper) Name of the group is in Marathi & the meaning is "Committee for removal of blind faith" I am not a member of ANS & strongly believe in astrology. Most probably the ANS group is based in Pune & our group members who are from Pune can get the details of contact numbers etc easily from local nws papers. I request the Pune members to help accordingly. Wish you all very best of luck ! Vishram Deshpande Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Connect more, do more and share more with India Mail. Learn more. Connect more, do more and share more with India Mail. Learn more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Dear Sagar ji, Thanks for your response. Your applications of ashtakvarga is very interesting. My experience with ashtakvarga is not very good and hence I do not use it at all. I tried ashtakvarga many times in the past on natal horoscopes and results were never satisfactory. Anyways, your email still doesn't answer both of my questions - 1. There are elections in three states. The solar month will remain same. How you will use this method in that case? 2. How you calculated 38 seats for MNS? Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Sagar S <ssagar86 wrote: Dear PunitYes, it is unbelievable but it is my experience and success.My first case was 1984 and my prediction was 87.5% favor for thr the ruling party congress and result was 419 seats for the ruling government. in 1985 i had predicted AGP MLA?MP seats with very accurate and i sent the same to Planets and forecast, the editor Mr.Nimai Banerji write me congradulation for the same.Pakistan peoples party victory and farmation of the same was predicted. Slilanka polls was predicted.In the recent i had predicted Manmohan singh will become PM for 2nd term with 272/273 seats , i had predicted it on 5th September 2008 that is 8 months before even before the polls date was announced. Any one can predict with the help of Benefic dots of Jupiter for the perticular month.sun ingress time chart.4th house signifies opposition,10th house signifies Ruling Government.8 benefic dots will be the highest and 8 equals to 100 or total number of seats. 4th house jupiter benefic dots and 10th house jupiter benefic dots to be added and then we have to calculate percentage for the same.for ex:4th house had 6 benefic dots and 10th house had 8 benefic dots = 14 6X288 --------14 =hence opp will get 123 seats and Ruling party will get 164 seats.In maharashtra polls Libra month 4th and 10th had 7 benefic dots of Jupiter hence 14 that is 50% for both RP and OPP party. 288 seats 50% is 144 seats.so RP anf OPP sill secure 144 seats.I hope i have explained as per my experience.ofcourse now a days i am not keen interenct in doing all these works becoming losing interest in all these. Thanks and regardsSahhasra Saagara Punit Pandey <punitp Sent: Sat, 17 October, 2009 4:53:10 PM Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Sagar ji, They say " one swallow does not make a summer " . Not too long, we struggled predicting correct time of marriage. Forum archive can give good hint of general success and failure. In such a situation a claim like " Anything as well as everything can be predictable through astrological calculations " seems too tall a claim to me. Anyways, I have a suggestion to test your rule. Why don't you go and predict results of all three state elections. It will give use at least three test cases and give us some indication of success percentage. The success percentage that you are claiming (20 out of 24 i.e. more than 83%) should be good enough to make it a rule, if proven. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey PS: Please do not take it as an attempt to belittle any rule or knowledge. But as an astrologer, the point made as well as success claimed are hard to believe for me. On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Hi Anything as well as everything can be predictable through astrological calculations. So many scholors have proved it. BPHS/Brihit Jatakhakya/other astrological texts has given many points how to analyse in what way.only thing is we have to understand the same and implement with care. Number of seats for each party can be predict through Benefic dots and percentage of seats. In the past i have predicted number of seats for ruling party and opposition party in general. I got succeed in 20 cases out of 24 cases. recently i have predicted (after a very long time) on 5th September 2008 itself that Mr.Manmohan singh will be the PM for 2nd term, 16th May 2009 will be the day of Manmohan singh and Ruling party will get 272/273 seats and will farm the Government. Counting date was 16th May 2009, total number of seats were 274 when the Ruling party farmed the Government on 22nd May 2009. http://churumuri. wordpress. com/2007/ 11/12/say- hello-to- the-famous- astrologer- kn-somayaji/ · Sahhasra Saagara Says: 5 September 2008 at 12:25 am Regards Sahhasra Saagara Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> @gro ups.com Fri, 16 October, 2009 7:52:59 PMFW: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Deae Sri Punit Pandeyji, In my opinion, nothing is impossible in Astrology. In K.P.system itself, Shri Kanak Bosmia has written an Article in September, 2007 E.Zine, finding how many sticks are there in a box with the help of RP & horary No. Even in KP Reader, I remember to have read about how many letters in the bag. Somr Articles also appearen In KP Astrology annual or monthly on this subject. Can’t we apply this method to find out how many seats eaxh party will win out of those No.s for wich they contested? Truly yours, K.S.V.Ramani @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Punit Pandey 16 October 2009 15:42@gro ups.com Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Deshpande ji and Friends, This email clearly shows ignorance of " Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti. " It shows that they are trying to create confusion in public's mind by announcing such an award. Now see the statement. They say " participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. " Now I wonder where does astrology claim that astrology can predict number of seats won by each major party? There is no rule in any astrology classic whether it is Brihat Jatak, BPHS or KP readers and any other astrology book. This is like asking medical science to show they can cure AIDS patient otherwise they will assume that medical science is blind-faith. This is like asking astronomers to show them landing a rocket on Sun otherwise they will assume astronomy and physics as blind-faith. This is absolutely ridiculous. Like astronomy / physics / medical science, astrology also has limitations. In fact, every science has limitations and that is the reason science is serviving / researching. What can be predicted by astrology is clearly documented and I wish they have courage to put a challenge based on that. Like other sciences, research is going on in astrology with an attempt to improve our predictive knowledge and like scientists we wish that we will be able to predict winning seat some day. But if astrologers can not predict winning-seats, it should not mean that astrology is blind-faith. To conclude, They should stop fooling the society by throwing such ridiculous challenge s. People should also be careful with such fraudulent challenges. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in> wrote: Dear Astrologers, There is a news in Mumbai Mirror (supplement of Times of India) dated 16th Oct, 09 which attracted me & made me think to put it in the forum for information of all. A rationalist group, " Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti " (known as ANS) has announced a reward of Rs 21 Lakh to any astrologer who can predict correctly result of the 13th Oct, 09 Assembly elections. The participants will have to explain scientifically how they have arrived to that conclusion. There is no restriction on what type of astrology one uses. Only the thing is that the astrology used must be based on planetary positions. Participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. ANS has Rs 30 lakh in SBI A/C No. 606265 & astrologers don't have to worry whether they will really be paid after winning. (This is what given in paper) Name of the group is in Marathi & the meaning is " Committee for removal of blind faith " I am not a member of ANS & strongly believe in astrology. Most probably the ANS group is based in Pune & our group members who are from Pune can get the details of contact numbers etc easily from local nws papers. I request the Pune members to help accordingly. Wish you all very best of luck ! Vishram Deshpande Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Connect more, do more and share more with India Mail. Learn more. Connect more, do more and share more with India Mail. Learn more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Dear Sagarji, I am a silent participant in the group. i am a practicing remedial astrologer stationed at Hyderabad. i read your mail on asthakavarga and it is very interesting. i also follow asthakavarga theory propounded by BV.Raman for getting a general reading on a particular house it is very useful and it is very accurate. .sometimes, for a brief reading i am using asthakavarga only and it is giving accurate results. your mail is very interesting. Now a days very few astrologer are using asthakavarga theory. I dont know about sungress chart and libra month. can yoou please kindly explain in detail the pattern followed by you in this regard, for which act of kindness i shall be very obliged to you. with regars and best wishes T.R.RAO--- On Mon, 19/10/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: Punit Pandey <punitpRe: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Date: Monday, 19 October, 2009, 12:10 AM Dear Sagar ji, Thanks for your response. Your applications of ashtakvarga is very interesting. My experience with ashtakvarga is not very good and hence I do not use it at all. I tried ashtakvarga many times in the past on natal horoscopes and results were never satisfactory. Anyways, your email still doesn't answer both of my questions - 1. There are elections in three states. The solar month will remain same. How you will use this method in that case? 2. How you calculated 38 seats for MNS? Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear PunitYes, it is unbelievable but it is my experience and success.My first case was 1984 and my prediction was 87.5% favor for thr the ruling party congress and result was 419 seats for the ruling government.in 1985 i had predicted AGP MLA?MP seats with very accurate and i sent the same to Planets and forecast, the editor Mr.Nimai Banerji write me congradulation for the same.Pakistan peoples party victory and farmation of the same was predicted.Slilanka polls was predicted.In the recent i had predicted Manmohan singh will become PM for 2nd term with 272/273 seats , i had predicted it on 5th September 2008 that is 8 months before even before the polls date was announced.Any one can predict with the help of Benefic dots of Jupiter for the perticular month.sun ingress time chart.4th house signifies opposition,10th house signifies Ruling Government.8 benefic dots will be the highest and 8 equals to 100 or total number of seats.4th house jupiter benefic dots and 10th house jupiter benefic dots to be added and then we have to calculate percentage for the same.for ex:4th house had 6 benefic dots and 10th house had 8 benefic dots = 14 6X288--------14 =hence opp will get 123 seats and Ruling party will get 164 seats.In maharashtra polls Libra month 4th and 10th had 7 benefic dots of Jupiter hence 14 that is 50% for both RP and OPP party.288 seats 50% is 144 seats.so RP anf OPP sill secure 144 seats.I hope i have explained as per my experience.ofcourse now a days i am not keen interenct in doing all these works becoming losing interest in all these.Thanks and regardsSahhasra Saagara Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> @gro ups.comSat, 17 October, 2009 4:53:10 PM Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Sagar ji, They say "one swallow does not make a summer". Not too long, we struggled predicting correct time of marriage. Forum archive can give good hint of general success and failure. In such a situation a claim like "Anything as well as everything can be predictable through astrological calculations" seems too tall a claim to me. Anyways, I have a suggestion to test your rule. Why don't you go and predict results of all three state elections. It will give use at least three test cases and give us some indication of success percentage. The success percentage that you are claiming (20 out of 24 i.e. more than 83%) should be good enough to make it a rule, if proven. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey PS: Please do not take it as an attempt to belittle any rule or knowledge. But as an astrologer, the point made as well as success claimed are hard to believe for me. On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Hi Anything as well as everything can be predictable through astrological calculations. So many scholors have proved it. BPHS/Brihit Jatakhakya/other astrological texts has given many points how to analyse in what way.only thing is we have to understand the same and implement with care. Number of seats for each party can be predict through Benefic dots and percentage of seats. In the past i have predicted number of seats for ruling party and opposition party in general. I got succeed in 20 cases out of 24 cases. recently i have predicted (after a very long time) on 5th September 2008 itself that Mr.Manmohan singh will be the PM for 2nd term, 16th May 2009 will be the day of Manmohan singh and Ruling party will get 272/273 seats and will farm the Government. Counting date was 16th May 2009, total number of seats were 274 when the Ruling party farmed the Government on 22nd May 2009. http://churumuri. wordpress. com/2007/ 11/12/say- hello-to- the-famous- astrologer- kn-somayaji/ · Sahhasra Saagara Says: 5 September 2008 at 12:25 am Regards Sahhasra Saagara Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> @gro ups.com Fri, 16 October, 2009 7:52:59 PMFW: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Deae Sri Punit Pandeyji, In my opinion, nothing is impossible in Astrology. In K.P.system itself, Shri Kanak Bosmia has written an Article in September, 2007 E.Zine, finding how many sticks are there in a box with the help of RP & horary No. Even in KP Reader, I remember to have read about how many letters in the bag. Somr Articles also appearen In KP Astrology annual or monthly on this subject. Can’t we apply this method to find out how many seats eaxh party will win out of those No.s for wich they contested? Truly yours, K.S.V.Ramani @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Punit Pandey 16 October 2009 15:42@gro ups.com Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Deshpande ji and Friends, This email clearly shows ignorance of "Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti." It shows that they are trying to create confusion in public's mind by announcing such an award. Now see the statement. They say "participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. " Now I wonder where does astrology claim that astrology can predict number of seats won by each major party? There is no rule in any astrology classic whether it is Brihat Jatak, BPHS or KP readers and any other astrology book. This is like asking medical science to show they can cure AIDS patient otherwise they will assume that medical science is blind-faith. This is like asking astronomers to show them landing a rocket on Sun otherwise they will assume astronomy and physics as blind-faith. This is absolutely ridiculous. Like astronomy / physics / medical science, astrology also has limitations. In fact, every science has limitations and that is the reason science is serviving / researching. What can be predicted by astrology is clearly documented and I wish they have courage to put a challenge based on that. Like other sciences, research is going on in astrology with an attempt to improve our predictive knowledge and like scientists we wish that we will be able to predict winning seat some day. But if astrologers can not predict winning-seats, it should not mean that astrology is blind-faith. To conclude, They should stop fooling the society by throwing such ridiculous challenge s. People should also be careful with such fraudulent challenges. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in> wrote: Dear Astrologers, There is a news in Mumbai Mirror (supplement of Times of India) dated 16th Oct, 09 which attracted me & made me think to put it in the forum for information of all. A rationalist group, "Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti" (known as ANS) has announced a reward of Rs 21 Lakh to any astrologer who can predict correctly result of the 13th Oct, 09 Assembly elections. The participants will have to explain scientifically how they have arrived to that conclusion. There is no restriction on what type of astrology one uses. Only the thing is that the astrology used must be based on planetary positions. Participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. ANS has Rs 30 lakh in SBI A/C No. 606265 & astrologers don't have to worry whether they will really be paid after winning. (This is what given in paper) Name of the group is in Marathi & the meaning is "Committee for removal of blind faith" I am not a member of ANS & strongly believe in astrology. Most probably the ANS group is based in Pune & our group members who are from Pune can get the details of contact numbers etc easily from local nws papers. I request the Pune members to help accordingly. Wish you all very best of luck ! Vishram Deshpande Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Connect more, do more and share more with India Mail. Learn more. Connect more, do more and share more with India Mail. Learn more. India has a new look. Take a sneak peek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 forwarding. It seems that the email was deleted mistakenly by me while moderating. I request members not to CC emails to me, as those creates confusion some times. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey ---------- Forwarded message ----------VIJAYANAND PATIL <guide_vijayanand Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 10:38 AMRe: Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Cc: punitp, guide_vijayanand Dear PunitjiI use to apply ASTAKWARG system developed by krishnaji of Satara,Maharashtra whose all lessons are available on internet. He has developed special astakwarg software that is made available for everyone free on that website. What Sagarji says there can be utilisation of astakwarg points for considering the seats to be won. But as far as KSK says, the election astrology is not so developed as we can confidently say anything in this regard. So we should be very cautious regarding toll predictions towards politics because in 100 predictions only 50% or more than 50% of the predictions will come true. No body will consider that howmuch we are true butthey only blame for remaining 40% cases that predictions go wrong. This is the main criteria Andhashradha Nirmulan Samiti. This should not taken to consider. In last year, The same Andhashradha Nirmulan Samiti with the colobration with Pune University launched test for astrologers in which they propose to give some cases and from that we have to identify who is blind, mentaly retarded or like. In Maharashtra, We all astrologers opposed to respond it as there is no confirmation of the date of birth or otherwise they can give IMAGINARY DETAILS OF BIRTH. On our part, what we are propogating the art of astrology into science of Astrology is appreciable. But if we take this as the challenge, we ourselves get blamed because the details of birth of the contestents for elections can not be had. As we have already seen that in case of YSR Reddy there are so many date of birth and times of births. Everyone says that the time quoted by him is correct and try to take the same details and try all the events in concerned jataka. But this is not the case for everyone. This is the same and general criteria of A.N.S. everytime for every election. So take it for granted that they will only propoage these times of things and try to show astrology fallen in the eyes of the public.No doubt, some may take this challenge advantegously and respond to Andhashradha Nirmulan Samiti, but the results will be totally reverse and we in the front of media will be proved for our inefficiency to predict all things. Andhashradha Nirmulan Samiti launches the prize but when time comes they run from the places. So it is my humble opinion that not to consider these type of tactes that harms our existance of astrology.HAPPY DIPAVALI AND HINDU NEW YEAR Vijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision, The SCientific Society for Research and Devt. in Astrology Kolhapur, Maharashtra, IndiaCell NO. +91 9422582853/9673746303On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 00:08:44 +0530 wrote Dear Sagar ji, Thanks for your response. Your applications of ashtakvarga is very interesting. My experience with ashtakvarga is not very good and hence I do not use it at all. I tried ashtakvarga many times in the past on natal horoscopes and results were never satisfactory. Anyways, your email still doesn't answer both of my questions - 1. There are elections in three states. The solar month will remain same. How you will use this method in that case?2. How you calculated 38 seats for MNS? Thanks & Regards,Punit PandeyOn Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Sagar S wrote: Dear PunitYes, it is unbelievable but it is my experience and success.My first case was 1984 and my prediction was 87.5% favor for thr the ruling party congress and result was 419 seats for the ruling government. in 1985 i had predicted AGP MLA?MP seats with very accurate and i sent the same to Planets and forecast, the editor Mr.Nimai Banerji write me congradulation for the same.Pakistan peoples party victory and farmation of the same was predicted. Slilanka polls was predicted.In the recent i had predicted Manmohan singh will become PM for 2nd term with 272/273 seats , i had predicted it on 5th September 2008 that is 8 months before even before the polls date was announced. Any one can predict with the help of Benefic dots of Jupiter for the perticular month.sun ingress time chart.4th house signifies opposition,10th house signifies Ruling Government.8 benefic dots will be the highest and 8 equals to 100 or total number of seats. 4th house jupiter benefic dots and 10th house jupiter benefic dots to be added and then we have to calculate percentage for the same.for ex:4th house had 6 benefic dots and 10th house had 8 benefic dots = 14 6X288--------14 =hence opp will get 123 seats and Ruling party will get 164 seats.In maharashtra polls Libra month 4th and 10th had 7 benefic dots of Jupiter hence 14 that is 50% for both RP and OPP party. 288 seats 50% is 144 seats.so RP anf OPP sill secure 144 seats.I hope i have explained as per my experience.ofcourse now a days i am not keen interenct in doing all these works becoming losing interest in all these.Thanks and regardsSahhasra Saagara Punit Pandey : Sat, 17 October, 2009 4:53:10 PM Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Sagar ji, They say " one swallow does not make a summer " . Not too long, we struggled predicting correct time of marriage. Forum archive can give good hint of general success and failure. In such a situation a claim like " Anything as well as everything can be predictable through astrological calculations " seems too tall a claim to me. Anyways, I have a suggestion to test your rule. Why don't you go and predict results of all three state elections. It will give use at least three test cases and give us some indication of success percentage. The success percentage that you are claiming (20 out of 24 i.e. more than 83%) should be good enough to make it a rule, if proven. Thanks & Regards,Punit PandeyPS: Please do not take it as an attempt to belittle any rule or knowledge. But as an astrologer, the point made as well as success claimed are hard to believe for me. On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Sagar S wrote: HiAnything as well as everything can be predictable through astrological calculations. So many scholors have proved it. BPHS/Brihit Jatakhakya/other astrological texts has given many points how to analyse in what way.only thing is we have to understand the same and implement with care. Number of seats for each party can be predict through Benefic dots and percentage of seats. In the past i have predicted number of seats for ruling party and opposition party in general. I got succeed in 20 cases out of 24 cases. recently i have predicted (after a very long time) on 5th September 2008 itself that Mr.Manmohan singh will be the PM for 2nd term, 16th May 2009 will be the day of Manmohan singh and Ruling party will get 272/273 seats and will farm the Government. Counting date was 16th May 2009, total number of seats were 274 when the Ruling party farmed the Government on 22nd May 2009. http://churumuri. wordpress. com/2007/ 11/12/say- hello-to- the-famous- astrologer- kn-somayaji/ · Sahhasra Saagara Says: 5 September 2008 at 12:25 am RegardsSahhasra SaagaraRamani @gro ups.comFri, 16 October, 2009 7:52:59 PMFW: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Deae Sri Punit Pandeyji, In my opinion, nothing is impossible in Astrology. In K.P.system itself,Shri Kanak Bosmia has written an Article in September, 2007 E.Zine, finding how many sticks are there in a box with the help of RP & horaryNo. Even in KP Reader, I remember to have read about how many letters in the bag. Somr Articles also appearen In KP Astrology annualor monthly on this subject. Can’t we apply this method to find out how many seats eaxh party will win out of those No.s for wich they contested? Truly yours, K.S.V.Ramani @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Punit Pandey 16 October 2009 15:42@gro ups.com Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Deshpande ji and Friends, This email clearly shows ignorance of " Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti. " It shows that they are trying to create confusion in public's mind by announcing such an award. Now see the statement. They say " participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. " Now I wonder where does astrology claim that astrology can predict number of seats won by each major party? There is no rule in any astrology classic whether it is Brihat Jatak, BPHS or KP readers and any other astrology book. This is like asking medical science to show they can cure AIDS patient otherwise they will assume that medical science is blind-faith. This is like asking astronomers to show them landing a rocket on Sun otherwise they will assume astronomy and physics as blind-faith. This is absolutely ridiculous. Like astronomy / physics / medical science, astrology also has limitations. In fact, every science has limitations and that is the reason science is serviving / researching. What can be predicted by astrology is clearly documented and I wish they have courage to put a challenge based on that. Like other sciences, research is going on in astrology with an attempt to improve our predictive knowledge and like scientists we wish that we will be able to predict winning seat some day. But if astrologers can not predict winning-seats, it should not mean that astrology is blind-faith. To conclude, They should stop fooling the society by throwing such ridiculous challenge s. People should also be careful with such fraudulent challenges. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Vishram Deshpande wrote: Dear Astrologers, There is a news in Mumbai Mirror (supplement of Times of India) dated 16th Oct, 09 which attracted me & made me think to put it in the forum for information of all. A rationalist group, " Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti " (known as ANS) has announced a reward of Rs 21 Lakh to any astrologer who can predict correctly result of the 13th Oct, 09 Assembly elections. The participants will have to explain scientifically how they have arrived to that conclusion. There is no restriction on what type of astrology one uses. Only the thing is that the astrology used must be based on planetary positions. Participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. ANS has Rs 30 lakh in SBI A/C No. 606265 & astrologers don't have to worry whether they will really be paid after winning. (This is what given in paper) Name of the group is in Marathi & the meaning is " Committee for removal of blind faith " I am not a member of ANS & strongly believe in astrology. Most probably the ANS group is based in Pune & our group members who are from Pune can get the details of contact numbers etc easily from local nws papers. I request the Pune members to help accordingly. Wish you all very best of luck ! Vishram Deshpande Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Connect more, do more and share more with India Mail. Learn more. Connect more, do more and share more with India Mail. Learn more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Dear Mr SagarHow can these benific dots be utilized by us. Are all planets use to guage various events of life ? Do the dots change with monthsRegardsSujataSagar S <ssagar86 Sent: Sun, 18 October, 2009 11:46:08 PMRe: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear PunitYes, it is unbelievable but it is my experience and success.My first case was 1984 and my prediction was 87.5% favor for thr the ruling party congress and result was 419 seats for the ruling government.in 1985 i had predicted AGP MLA?MP seats with very accurate and i sent the same to Planets and forecast, the editor Mr.Nimai Banerji write me congradulation for the same.Pakistan peoples party victory and farmation of the same was predicted.Slilanka polls was predicted.In the recent i had predicted Manmohan singh will become PM for 2nd term with 272/273 seats , i had predicted it on 5th September 2008 that is 8 months before even before the polls date was announced.Any one can predict with the help of Benefic dots of Jupiter for the perticular month.sun ingress time chart.4th house signifies opposition,10th house signifies Ruling Government.8 benefic dots will be the highest and 8 equals to 100 or total number of seats.4th house jupiter benefic dots and 10th house jupiter benefic dots to be added and then we have to calculate percentage for the same.for ex:4th house had 6 benefic dots and 10th house had 8 benefic dots = 14 6X288--------14 =hence opp will get 123 seats and Ruling party will get 164 seats.In maharashtra polls Libra month 4th and 10th had 7 benefic dots of Jupiter hence 14 that is 50% for both RP and OPP party.288 seats 50% is 144 seats.so RP anf OPP sill secure 144 seats.I hope i have explained as per my experience.ofcourse now a days i am not keen interenct in doing all these works becoming losing interest in all these.Thanks and regardsSahhasra SaagaraPunit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>@gro ups.comSat, 17 October, 2009 4:53:10 PMRe: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Sagar ji, They say "one swallow does not make a summer". Not too long, we struggled predicting correct time of marriage. Forum archive can give good hint of general success and failure. In such a situation a claim like "Anything as well as everything can be predictable through astrological calculations" seems too tall a claim to me. Anyways, I have a suggestion to test your rule. Why don't you go and predict results of all three state elections. It will give use at least three test cases and give us some indication of success percentage. The success percentage that you are claiming (20 out of 24 i.e. more than 83%) should be good enough to make it a rule, if proven. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey PS: Please do not take it as an attempt to belittle any rule or knowledge. But as an astrologer, the point made as well as success claimed are hard to believe for me. On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Hi Anything as well as everything can be predictable through astrological calculations. So many scholors have proved it. BPHS/Brihit Jatakhakya/other astrological texts has given many points how to analyse in what way.only thing is we have to understand the same and implement with care. Number of seats for each party can be predict through Benefic dots and percentage of seats. In the past i have predicted number of seats for ruling party and opposition party in general. I got succeed in 20 cases out of 24 cases. recently i have predicted (after a very long time) on 5th September 2008 itself that Mr.Manmohan singh will be the PM for 2nd term, 16th May 2009 will be the day of Manmohan singh and Ruling party will get 272/273 seats and will farm the Government. Counting date was 16th May 2009, total number of seats were 274 when the Ruling party farmed the Government on 22nd May 2009. http://churumuri. wordpress. com/2007/ 11/12/say- hello-to- the-famous- astrologer- kn-somayaji/ · Sahhasra Saagara Says: 5 September 2008 at 12:25 am Regards Sahhasra Saagara Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> @gro ups.comFri, 16 October, 2009 7:52:59 PM FW: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Deae Sri Punit Pandeyji, In my opinion, nothing is impossible in Astrology. In K.P.system itself, Shri Kanak Bosmia has written an Article in September, 2007 E.Zine, finding how many sticks are there in a box with the help of RP & horary No. Even in KP Reader, I remember to have read about how many letters in the bag. Somr Articles also appearen In KP Astrology annual or monthly on this subject. Can’t we apply this method to find out how many seats eaxh party will win out of those No.s for wich they contested? Truly yours, K.S.V.Ramani @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Punit Pandey 16 October 2009 15:42@gro ups.com Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Deshpande ji and Friends, This email clearly shows ignorance of "Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti." It shows that they are trying to create confusion in public's mind by announcing such an award. Now see the statement. They say "participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. " Now I wonder where does astrology claim that astrology can predict number of seats won by each major party? There is no rule in any astrology classic whether it is Brihat Jatak, BPHS or KP readers and any other astrology book. This is like asking medical science to show they can cure AIDS patient otherwise they will assume that medical science is blind-faith. This is like asking astronomers to show them landing a rocket on Sun otherwise they will assume astronomy and physics as blind-faith. This is absolutely ridiculous. Like astronomy / physics / medical science, astrology also has limitations. In fact, every science has limitations and that is the reason science is serviving / researching. What can be predicted by astrology is clearly documented and I wish they have courage to put a challenge based on that. Like other sciences, research is going on in astrology with an attempt to improve our predictive knowledge and like scientists we wish that we will be able to predict winning seat some day. But if astrologers can not predict winning-seats, it should not mean that astrology is blind-faith. To conclude, They should stop fooling the society by throwing such ridiculous challenge s. People should also be careful with such fraudulent challenges. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in> wrote: Dear Astrologers, There is a news in Mumbai Mirror (supplement of Times of India) dated 16th Oct, 09 which attracted me & made me think to put it in the forum for information of all. A rationalist group, "Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti" (known as ANS) has announced a reward of Rs 21 Lakh to any astrologer who can predict correctly result of the 13th Oct, 09 Assembly elections. The participants will have to explain scientifically how they have arrived to that conclusion. There is no restriction on what type of astrology one uses. Only the thing is that the astrology used must be based on planetary positions. Participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. ANS has Rs 30 lakh in SBI A/C No. 606265 & astrologers don't have to worry whether they will really be paid after winning. (This is what given in paper) Name of the group is in Marathi & the meaning is "Committee for removal of blind faith" I am not a member of ANS & strongly believe in astrology. Most probably the ANS group is based in Pune & our group members who are from Pune can get the details of contact numbers etc easily from local nws papers. I request the Pune members to help accordingly. Wish you all very best of luck ! Vishram Deshpande Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Connect more, do more and share more with India Mail. Learn more. Connect more, do more and share more with India Mail. Learn more. Now, send attachments up to 25MB with India Mail. Learn how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Dear Mr. Rao, Can you please explain with example how you do general reading on a particular house using Ashtakvarga? Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Rao Tammiraju <sreesai_ganesh wrote: Dear Sagarji, I am a silent participant in the group. i am a practicing remedial astrologer stationed at Hyderabad. i read your mail on asthakavarga and it is very interesting. i also follow asthakavarga theory propounded by BV.Raman for getting a general reading on a particular house it is very useful and it is very accurate. .sometimes, for a brief reading i am using asthakavarga only and it is giving accurate results. your mail is very interesting. Now a days very few astrologer are using asthakavarga theory. I dont know about sungress chart and libra month. can yoou please kindly explain in detail the pattern followed by you in this regard, for which act of kindness i shall be very obliged to you. with regars and best wishes T.R.RAO --- On Mon, 19/10/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Date: Monday, 19 October, 2009, 12:10 AM Dear Sagar ji, Thanks for your response. Your applications of ashtakvarga is very interesting. My experience with ashtakvarga is not very good and hence I do not use it at all. I tried ashtakvarga many times in the past on natal horoscopes and results were never satisfactory. Anyways, your email still doesn't answer both of my questions - 1. There are elections in three states. The solar month will remain same. How you will use this method in that case? 2. How you calculated 38 seats for MNS? Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear PunitYes, it is unbelievable but it is my experience and success.My first case was 1984 and my prediction was 87.5% favor for thr the ruling party congress and result was 419 seats for the ruling government. in 1985 i had predicted AGP MLA?MP seats with very accurate and i sent the same to Planets and forecast, the editor Mr.Nimai Banerji write me congradulation for the same.Pakistan peoples party victory and farmation of the same was predicted. Slilanka polls was predicted.In the recent i had predicted Manmohan singh will become PM for 2nd term with 272/273 seats , i had predicted it on 5th September 2008 that is 8 months before even before the polls date was announced. Any one can predict with the help of Benefic dots of Jupiter for the perticular month.sun ingress time chart.4th house signifies opposition,10th house signifies Ruling Government.8 benefic dots will be the highest and 8 equals to 100 or total number of seats. 4th house jupiter benefic dots and 10th house jupiter benefic dots to be added and then we have to calculate percentage for the same.for ex:4th house had 6 benefic dots and 10th house had 8 benefic dots = 14 6X288 --------14 =hence opp will get 123 seats and Ruling party will get 164 seats.In maharashtra polls Libra month 4th and 10th had 7 benefic dots of Jupiter hence 14 that is 50% for both RP and OPP party. 288 seats 50% is 144 seats.so RP anf OPP sill secure 144 seats.I hope i have explained as per my experience.ofcourse now a days i am not keen interenct in doing all these works becoming losing interest in all these. Thanks and regardsSahhasra Saagara Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> @gro ups.com Sat, 17 October, 2009 4:53:10 PM Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Sagar ji, They say " one swallow does not make a summer " . Not too long, we struggled predicting correct time of marriage. Forum archive can give good hint of general success and failure. In such a situation a claim like " Anything as well as everything can be predictable through astrological calculations " seems too tall a claim to me. Anyways, I have a suggestion to test your rule. Why don't you go and predict results of all three state elections. It will give use at least three test cases and give us some indication of success percentage. The success percentage that you are claiming (20 out of 24 i.e. more than 83%) should be good enough to make it a rule, if proven. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey PS: Please do not take it as an attempt to belittle any rule or knowledge. But as an astrologer, the point made as well as success claimed are hard to believe for me. On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Hi Anything as well as everything can be predictable through astrological calculations. So many scholors have proved it. BPHS/Brihit Jatakhakya/other astrological texts has given many points how to analyse in what way.only thing is we have to understand the same and implement with care. Number of seats for each party can be predict through Benefic dots and percentage of seats. In the past i have predicted number of seats for ruling party and opposition party in general. I got succeed in 20 cases out of 24 cases. recently i have predicted (after a very long time) on 5th September 2008 itself that Mr.Manmohan singh will be the PM for 2nd term, 16th May 2009 will be the day of Manmohan singh and Ruling party will get 272/273 seats and will farm the Government. Counting date was 16th May 2009, total number of seats were 274 when the Ruling party farmed the Government on 22nd May 2009. http://churumuri. wordpress. com/2007/ 11/12/say- hello-to- the-famous- astrologer- kn-somayaji/ · Sahhasra Saagara Says: 5 September 2008 at 12:25 am Regards Sahhasra Saagara Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> @gro ups.com Fri, 16 October, 2009 7:52:59 PMFW: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Deae Sri Punit Pandeyji, In my opinion, nothing is impossible in Astrology. In K.P.system itself, Shri Kanak Bosmia has written an Article in September, 2007 E.Zine, finding how many sticks are there in a box with the help of RP & horary No. Even in KP Reader, I remember to have read about how many letters in the bag. Somr Articles also appearen In KP Astrology annual or monthly on this subject. Can’t we apply this method to find out how many seats eaxh party will win out of those No.s for wich they contested? Truly yours, K.S.V.Ramani @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Punit Pandey 16 October 2009 15:42@gro ups.com Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Deshpande ji and Friends, This email clearly shows ignorance of " Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti. " It shows that they are trying to create confusion in public's mind by announcing such an award. Now see the statement. They say " participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. " Now I wonder where does astrology claim that astrology can predict number of seats won by each major party? There is no rule in any astrology classic whether it is Brihat Jatak, BPHS or KP readers and any other astrology book. This is like asking medical science to show they can cure AIDS patient otherwise they will assume that medical science is blind-faith. This is like asking astronomers to show them landing a rocket on Sun otherwise they will assume astronomy and physics as blind-faith. This is absolutely ridiculous. Like astronomy / physics / medical science, astrology also has limitations. In fact, every science has limitations and that is the reason science is serviving / researching. What can be predicted by astrology is clearly documented and I wish they have courage to put a challenge based on that. Like other sciences, research is going on in astrology with an attempt to improve our predictive knowledge and like scientists we wish that we will be able to predict winning seat some day. But if astrologers can not predict winning-seats, it should not mean that astrology is blind-faith. To conclude, They should stop fooling the society by throwing such ridiculous challenge s. People should also be careful with such fraudulent challenges. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in> wrote: Dear Astrologers, There is a news in Mumbai Mirror (supplement of Times of India) dated 16th Oct, 09 which attracted me & made me think to put it in the forum for information of all. A rationalist group, " Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti " (known as ANS) has announced a reward of Rs 21 Lakh to any astrologer who can predict correctly result of the 13th Oct, 09 Assembly elections. The participants will have to explain scientifically how they have arrived to that conclusion. There is no restriction on what type of astrology one uses. Only the thing is that the astrology used must be based on planetary positions. Participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. ANS has Rs 30 lakh in SBI A/C No. 606265 & astrologers don't have to worry whether they will really be paid after winning. (This is what given in paper) Name of the group is in Marathi & the meaning is " Committee for removal of blind faith " I am not a member of ANS & strongly believe in astrology. Most probably the ANS group is based in Pune & our group members who are from Pune can get the details of contact numbers etc easily from local nws papers. I request the Pune members to help accordingly. Wish you all very best of luck ! Vishram Deshpande Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Connect more, do more and share more with India Mail. Learn more. Connect more, do more and share more with India Mail. Learn more. India has a new look. Take a sneak peek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Dear Punit and RaoOut of 288 62.% favour will turn towards Ruling and the opposition will get favor of 36.5% i.e, 178 seats-actual 144 minus = 34 to 38 seats is against to opp , now the Rajtakre's party will remain status quo which will not support both ruling and opp resulted in 144 for ruling party and for opp too 144 but 34-38 seats will be indirectly favor to the R party.Dear Rao:Sun Ingress time means sun entering time of each sign at oo degree for each sign. ingeneral every April 14th Sun will be at 00degree Aries which is sun ingress time.Erect for that particular month and analyse the matter u will be able predict so many things for perticular state , country too.For more details Alen Leo's Mundane astrology will help u a lot though it is a very small book.I too get interest on mundane astrology thro' Alen Leo's Mundane astrology. Later i fixed Zodiacal affinities to the Universe and predict Quake dates and places.Only thing is with very small equipment degreewise prediction was 1 degree to 3 degree hence i had predicted Moscow/Kabul or afghan will face quake on 7th Dec 1988 but quake took place at Armenia 1 degree difference to my calculation.Ashtakavarga system had so many hidden points which has to be studied/research on it.With the help of each planetary bindus we can predict many events. With the help of Jupiters benefic dots i predict number of seats in polls and with the help of Moon benefic dots i had predict Marks card in advancde.Dear PandeyI do not know the number of seats of other states parties names of ruling and opp.RegardsSahhsra SaagaraPunit Pandey <punitp Sent: Mon, 19 October, 2009 4:48:44 PMRe: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Mr. Rao, Can you please explain with example how you do general reading on a particular house using Ashtakvarga? Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Rao Tammiraju <sreesai_ganesh@ .co. in> wrote: Dear Sagarji, I am a silent participant in the group. i am a practicing remedial astrologer stationed at Hyderabad. i read your mail on asthakavarga and it is very interesting. i also follow asthakavarga theory propounded by BV.Raman for getting a general reading on a particular house it is very useful and it is very accurate. .sometimes, for a brief reading i am using asthakavarga only and it is giving accurate results. your mail is very interesting. Now a days very few astrologer are using asthakavarga theory. I dont know about sungress chart and libra month. can yoou please kindly explain in detail the pattern followed by you in this regard, for which act of kindness i shall be very obliged to you. with regars and best wishes T.R.RAO --- On Mon, 19/10/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- @gro ups.comMonday, 19 October, 2009, 12:10 AM Dear Sagar ji, Thanks for your response. Your applications of ashtakvarga is very interesting. My experience with ashtakvarga is not very good and hence I do not use it at all. I tried ashtakvarga many times in the past on natal horoscopes and results were never satisfactory. Anyways, your email still doesn't answer both of my questions - 1. There are elections in three states. The solar month will remain same. How you will use this method in that case? 2. How you calculated 38 seats for MNS? Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear PunitYes, it is unbelievable but it is my experience and success.My first case was 1984 and my prediction was 87.5% favor for thr the ruling party congress and result was 419 seats for the ruling government. in 1985 i had predicted AGP MLA?MP seats with very accurate and i sent the same to Planets and forecast, the editor Mr.Nimai Banerji write me congradulation for the same.Pakistan peoples party victory and farmation of the same was predicted. Slilanka polls was predicted.In the recent i had predicted Manmohan singh will become PM for 2nd term with 272/273 seats , i had predicted it on 5th September 2008 that is 8 months before even before the polls date was announced. Any one can predict with the help of Benefic dots of Jupiter for the perticular month.sun ingress time chart.4th house signifies opposition,10th house signifies Ruling Government.8 benefic dots will be the highest and 8 equals to 100 or total number of seats. 4th house jupiter benefic dots and 10th house jupiter benefic dots to be added and then we have to calculate percentage for the same.for ex:4th house had 6 benefic dots and 10th house had 8 benefic dots = 14 6X288 --------14 =hence opp will get 123 seats and Ruling party will get 164 seats.In maharashtra polls Libra month 4th and 10th had 7 benefic dots of Jupiter hence 14 that is 50% for both RP and OPP party. 288 seats 50% is 144 seats.so RP anf OPP sill secure 144 seats.I hope i have explained as per my experience.ofcourse now a days i am not keen interenct in doing all these works becoming losing interest in all these. Thanks and regardsSahhasra Saagara Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> @gro ups.com Sat, 17 October, 2009 4:53:10 PM Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Sagar ji, They say "one swallow does not make a summer". Not too long, we struggled predicting correct time of marriage. Forum archive can give good hint of general success and failure. In such a situation a claim like "Anything as well as everything can be predictable through astrological calculations" seems too tall a claim to me. Anyways, I have a suggestion to test your rule. Why don't you go and predict results of all three state elections. It will give use at least three test cases and give us some indication of success percentage. The success percentage that you are claiming (20 out of 24 i.e. more than 83%) should be good enough to make it a rule, if proven. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey PS: Please do not take it as an attempt to belittle any rule or knowledge. But as an astrologer, the point made as well as success claimed are hard to believe for me. On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Hi Anything as well as everything can be predictable through astrological calculations. So many scholors have proved it. BPHS/Brihit Jatakhakya/other astrological texts has given many points how to analyse in what way.only thing is we have to understand the same and implement with care. Number of seats for each party can be predict through Benefic dots and percentage of seats. In the past i have predicted number of seats for ruling party and opposition party in general. I got succeed in 20 cases out of 24 cases. recently i have predicted (after a very long time) on 5th September 2008 itself that Mr.Manmohan singh will be the PM for 2nd term, 16th May 2009 will be the day of Manmohan singh and Ruling party will get 272/273 seats and will farm the Government. Counting date was 16th May 2009, total number of seats were 274 when the Ruling party farmed the Government on 22nd May 2009. http://churumuri. wordpress. com/2007/ 11/12/say- hello-to- the-famous- astrologer- kn-somayaji/ · Sahhasra Saagara Says: 5 September 2008 at 12:25 am Regards Sahhasra Saagara Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> @gro ups.com Fri, 16 October, 2009 7:52:59 PMFW: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Deae Sri Punit Pandeyji, In my opinion, nothing is impossible in Astrology. In K.P.system itself, Shri Kanak Bosmia has written an Article in September, 2007 E.Zine, finding how many sticks are there in a box with the help of RP & horary No. Even in KP Reader, I remember to have read about how many letters in the bag. Somr Articles also appearen In KP Astrology annual or monthly on this subject. Can’t we apply this method to find out how many seats eaxh party will win out of those No.s for wich they contested? Truly yours, K.S.V.Ramani @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Punit Pandey 16 October 2009 15:42@gro ups.com Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Deshpande ji and Friends, This email clearly shows ignorance of "Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti." It shows that they are trying to create confusion in public's mind by announcing such an award. Now see the statement. They say "participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. " Now I wonder where does astrology claim that astrology can predict number of seats won by each major party? There is no rule in any astrology classic whether it is Brihat Jatak, BPHS or KP readers and any other astrology book. This is like asking medical science to show they can cure AIDS patient otherwise they will assume that medical science is blind-faith. This is like asking astronomers to show them landing a rocket on Sun otherwise they will assume astronomy and physics as blind-faith. This is absolutely ridiculous. Like astronomy / physics / medical science, astrology also has limitations. In fact, every science has limitations and that is the reason science is serviving / researching. What can be predicted by astrology is clearly documented and I wish they have courage to put a challenge based on that. Like other sciences, research is going on in astrology with an attempt to improve our predictive knowledge and like scientists we wish that we will be able to predict winning seat some day. But if astrologers can not predict winning-seats, it should not mean that astrology is blind-faith. To conclude, They should stop fooling the society by throwing such ridiculous challenge s. People should also be careful with such fraudulent challenges. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in> wrote: Dear Astrologers, There is a news in Mumbai Mirror (supplement of Times of India) dated 16th Oct, 09 which attracted me & made me think to put it in the forum for information of all. A rationalist group, "Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti" (known as ANS) has announced a reward of Rs 21 Lakh to any astrologer who can predict correctly result of the 13th Oct, 09 Assembly elections. The participants will have to explain scientifically how they have arrived to that conclusion. There is no restriction on what type of astrology one uses. Only the thing is that the astrology used must be based on planetary positions. Participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. ANS has Rs 30 lakh in SBI A/C No. 606265 & astrologers don't have to worry whether they will really be paid after winning. (This is what given in paper) Name of the group is in Marathi & the meaning is "Committee for removal of blind faith" I am not a member of ANS & strongly believe in astrology. Most probably the ANS group is based in Pune & our group members who are from Pune can get the details of contact numbers etc easily from local nws papers. I request the Pune members to help accordingly. Wish you all very best of luck ! Vishram Deshpande Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Connect more, do more and share more with India Mail. Learn more. Connect more, do more and share more with India Mail. Learn more. India has a new look. Take a sneak peek. Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Dear RaoI am having worked papers of some 6/7 polls predictions with me, i will send the same in the earliest possible.Mundane astrology by Alen Leo will help a lot on mundane matters. i too get interested from it and later i fixed Zodiacal affinities to the universe and predict quake and natural calamities.RegardsSahhasra SaagaraRao Tammiraju <sreesai_ganesh Sent: Mon, 19 October, 2009 7:02:00 AMRe: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Sagarji, I am a silent participant in the group. i am a practicing remedial astrologer stationed at Hyderabad. i read your mail on asthakavarga and it is very interesting. i also follow asthakavarga theory propounded by BV.Raman for getting a general reading on a particular house it is very useful and it is very accurate. .sometimes, for a brief reading i am using asthakavarga only and it is giving accurate results. your mail is very interesting. Now a days very few astrologer are using asthakavarga theory. I dont know about sungress chart and libra month. can yoou please kindly explain in detail the pattern followed by you in this regard, for which act of kindness i shall be very obliged to you. with regars and best wishes T.R.RAO--- On Mon, 19/10/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/-@gro ups.comMonday, 19 October, 2009, 12:10 AM Dear Sagar ji, Thanks for your response. Your applications of ashtakvarga is very interesting. My experience with ashtakvarga is not very good and hence I do not use it at all. I tried ashtakvarga many times in the past on natal horoscopes and results were never satisfactory. Anyways, your email still doesn't answer both of my questions - 1. There are elections in three states. The solar month will remain same. How you will use this method in that case? 2. How you calculated 38 seats for MNS? Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear PunitYes, it is unbelievable but it is my experience and success.My first case was 1984 and my prediction was 87.5% favor for thr the ruling party congress and result was 419 seats for the ruling government.in 1985 i had predicted AGP MLA?MP seats with very accurate and i sent the same to Planets and forecast, the editor Mr.Nimai Banerji write me congradulation for the same.Pakistan peoples party victory and farmation of the same was predicted.Slilanka polls was predicted.In the recent i had predicted Manmohan singh will become PM for 2nd term with 272/273 seats , i had predicted it on 5th September 2008 that is 8 months before even before the polls date was announced.Any one can predict with the help of Benefic dots of Jupiter for the perticular month.sun ingress time chart.4th house signifies opposition,10th house signifies Ruling Government.8 benefic dots will be the highest and 8 equals to 100 or total number of seats.4th house jupiter benefic dots and 10th house jupiter benefic dots to be added and then we have to calculate percentage for the same.for ex:4th house had 6 benefic dots and 10th house had 8 benefic dots = 14 6X288--------14 =hence opp will get 123 seats and Ruling party will get 164 seats.In maharashtra polls Libra month 4th and 10th had 7 benefic dots of Jupiter hence 14 that is 50% for both RP and OPP party.288 seats 50% is 144 seats.so RP anf OPP sill secure 144 seats.I hope i have explained as per my experience.ofcourse now a days i am not keen interenct in doing all these works becoming losing interest in all these.Thanks and regardsSahhasra Saagara Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> @gro ups.comSat, 17 October, 2009 4:53:10 PM Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Sagar ji, They say "one swallow does not make a summer". Not too long, we struggled predicting correct time of marriage. Forum archive can give good hint of general success and failure. In such a situation a claim like "Anything as well as everything can be predictable through astrological calculations" seems too tall a claim to me. Anyways, I have a suggestion to test your rule. Why don't you go and predict results of all three state elections. It will give use at least three test cases and give us some indication of success percentage. The success percentage that you are claiming (20 out of 24 i.e. more than 83%) should be good enough to make it a rule, if proven. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey PS: Please do not take it as an attempt to belittle any rule or knowledge. But as an astrologer, the point made as well as success claimed are hard to believe for me. On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Hi Anything as well as everything can be predictable through astrological calculations. So many scholors have proved it. BPHS/Brihit Jatakhakya/other astrological texts has given many points how to analyse in what way.only thing is we have to understand the same and implement with care. Number of seats for each party can be predict through Benefic dots and percentage of seats. In the past i have predicted number of seats for ruling party and opposition party in general. I got succeed in 20 cases out of 24 cases. recently i have predicted (after a very long time) on 5th September 2008 itself that Mr.Manmohan singh will be the PM for 2nd term, 16th May 2009 will be the day of Manmohan singh and Ruling party will get 272/273 seats and will farm the Government. Counting date was 16th May 2009, total number of seats were 274 when the Ruling party farmed the Government on 22nd May 2009. http://churumuri. wordpress. com/2007/ 11/12/say- hello-to- the-famous- astrologer- kn-somayaji/ · Sahhasra Saagara Says: 5 September 2008 at 12:25 am Regards Sahhasra Saagara Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> @gro ups.com Fri, 16 October, 2009 7:52:59 PMFW: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Deae Sri Punit Pandeyji, In my opinion, nothing is impossible in Astrology. In K.P.system itself, Shri Kanak Bosmia has written an Article in September, 2007 E.Zine, finding how many sticks are there in a box with the help of RP & horary No. Even in KP Reader, I remember to have read about how many letters in the bag. Somr Articles also appearen In KP Astrology annual or monthly on this subject. Can’t we apply this method to find out how many seats eaxh party will win out of those No.s for wich they contested? Truly yours, K.S.V.Ramani @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Punit Pandey 16 October 2009 15:42@gro ups.com Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Deshpande ji and Friends, This email clearly shows ignorance of "Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti." It shows that they are trying to create confusion in public's mind by announcing such an award. Now see the statement. They say "participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. " Now I wonder where does astrology claim that astrology can predict number of seats won by each major party? There is no rule in any astrology classic whether it is Brihat Jatak, BPHS or KP readers and any other astrology book. This is like asking medical science to show they can cure AIDS patient otherwise they will assume that medical science is blind-faith. This is like asking astronomers to show them landing a rocket on Sun otherwise they will assume astronomy and physics as blind-faith. This is absolutely ridiculous. Like astronomy / physics / medical science, astrology also has limitations. In fact, every science has limitations and that is the reason science is serviving / researching. What can be predicted by astrology is clearly documented and I wish they have courage to put a challenge based on that. Like other sciences, research is going on in astrology with an attempt to improve our predictive knowledge and like scientists we wish that we will be able to predict winning seat some day. But if astrologers can not predict winning-seats, it should not mean that astrology is blind-faith. To conclude, They should stop fooling the society by throwing such ridiculous challenge s. People should also be careful with such fraudulent challenges. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in> wrote: Dear Astrologers, There is a news in Mumbai Mirror (supplement of Times of India) dated 16th Oct, 09 which attracted me & made me think to put it in the forum for information of all. A rationalist group, "Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti" (known as ANS) has announced a reward of Rs 21 Lakh to any astrologer who can predict correctly result of the 13th Oct, 09 Assembly elections. The participants will have to explain scientifically how they have arrived to that conclusion. There is no restriction on what type of astrology one uses. Only the thing is that the astrology used must be based on planetary positions. Participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. ANS has Rs 30 lakh in SBI A/C No. 606265 & astrologers don't have to worry whether they will really be paid after winning. (This is what given in paper) Name of the group is in Marathi & the meaning is "Committee for removal of blind faith" I am not a member of ANS & strongly believe in astrology. Most probably the ANS group is based in Pune & our group members who are from Pune can get the details of contact numbers etc easily from local nws papers. I request the Pune members to help accordingly. Wish you all very best of luck ! Vishram Deshpande Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Connect more, do more and share more with India Mail. Learn more. Connect more, do more and share more with India Mail. Learn more. India has a new look. Take a sneak peek. Try the new India Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Dear Sagarji, thank u very much for ur prompt and kind reply. I will be eagerly waiting for your successful previous predictions in this regard. kindly send the same at the earliest, at your convenience. I dont know about sun ingress chart. kindly can you guide me in this regard. I will purchase Sir Allen Leos book on mundane astrology shortly. with best regards, t.r.rao--- On Mon, 19/10/09, Sagar S <ssagar86 wrote: Sagar S <ssagar86Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Date: Monday, 19 October, 2009, 11:23 PM Dear RaoI am having worked papers of some 6/7 polls predictions with me, i will send the same in the earliest possible.Mundane astrology by Alen Leo will help a lot on mundane matters. i too get interested from it and later i fixed Zodiacal affinities to the universe and predict quake and natural calamities.RegardsSahhasra Saagara Rao Tammiraju <sreesai_ganesh@ .co. in>@gro ups.comMon, 19 October, 2009 7:02:00 AMRe: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Sagarji, I am a silent participant in the group. i am a practicing remedial astrologer stationed at Hyderabad. i read your mail on asthakavarga and it is very interesting. i also follow asthakavarga theory propounded by BV.Raman for getting a general reading on a particular house it is very useful and it is very accurate. .sometimes, for a brief reading i am using asthakavarga only and it is giving accurate results. your mail is very interesting. Now a days very few astrologer are using asthakavarga theory. I dont know about sungress chart and libra month. can yoou please kindly explain in detail the pattern followed by you in this regard, for which act of kindness i shall be very obliged to you. with regars and best wishes T.R.RAO--- On Mon, 19/10/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/-@gro ups.comMonday, 19 October, 2009, 12:10 AM Dear Sagar ji, Thanks for your response. Your applications of ashtakvarga is very interesting. My experience with ashtakvarga is not very good and hence I do not use it at all. I tried ashtakvarga many times in the past on natal horoscopes and results were never satisfactory. Anyways, your email still doesn't answer both of my questions - 1. There are elections in three states. The solar month will remain same. How you will use this method in that case? 2. How you calculated 38 seats for MNS? Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear PunitYes, it is unbelievable but it is my experience and success.My first case was 1984 and my prediction was 87.5% favor for thr the ruling party congress and result was 419 seats for the ruling government.in 1985 i had predicted AGP MLA?MP seats with very accurate and i sent the same to Planets and forecast, the editor Mr.Nimai Banerji write me congradulation for the same.Pakistan peoples party victory and farmation of the same was predicted.Slilanka polls was predicted.In the recent i had predicted Manmohan singh will become PM for 2nd term with 272/273 seats , i had predicted it on 5th September 2008 that is 8 months before even before the polls date was announced.Any one can predict with the help of Benefic dots of Jupiter for the perticular month.sun ingress time chart.4th house signifies opposition,10th house signifies Ruling Government.8 benefic dots will be the highest and 8 equals to 100 or total number of seats.4th house jupiter benefic dots and 10th house jupiter benefic dots to be added and then we have to calculate percentage for the same.for ex:4th house had 6 benefic dots and 10th house had 8 benefic dots = 14 6X288--------14 =hence opp will get 123 seats and Ruling party will get 164 seats.In maharashtra polls Libra month 4th and 10th had 7 benefic dots of Jupiter hence 14 that is 50% for both RP and OPP party.288 seats 50% is 144 seats.so RP anf OPP sill secure 144 seats.I hope i have explained as per my experience.ofcourse now a days i am not keen interenct in doing all these works becoming losing interest in all these.Thanks and regardsSahhasra Saagara Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> @gro ups.comSat, 17 October, 2009 4:53:10 PM Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Sagar ji, They say "one swallow does not make a summer". Not too long, we struggled predicting correct time of marriage. Forum archive can give good hint of general success and failure. In such a situation a claim like "Anything as well as everything can be predictable through astrological calculations" seems too tall a claim to me. Anyways, I have a suggestion to test your rule. Why don't you go and predict results of all three state elections. It will give use at least three test cases and give us some indication of success percentage. The success percentage that you are claiming (20 out of 24 i.e. more than 83%) should be good enough to make it a rule, if proven. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey PS: Please do not take it as an attempt to belittle any rule or knowledge. But as an astrologer, the point made as well as success claimed are hard to believe for me. On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Hi Anything as well as everything can be predictable through astrological calculations. So many scholors have proved it. BPHS/Brihit Jatakhakya/other astrological texts has given many points how to analyse in what way.only thing is we have to understand the same and implement with care. Number of seats for each party can be predict through Benefic dots and percentage of seats. In the past i have predicted number of seats for ruling party and opposition party in general. I got succeed in 20 cases out of 24 cases. recently i have predicted (after a very long time) on 5th September 2008 itself that Mr.Manmohan singh will be the PM for 2nd term, 16th May 2009 will be the day of Manmohan singh and Ruling party will get 272/273 seats and will farm the Government. Counting date was 16th May 2009, total number of seats were 274 when the Ruling party farmed the Government on 22nd May 2009. http://churumuri. wordpress. com/2007/ 11/12/say- hello-to- the-famous- astrologer- kn-somayaji/ · Sahhasra Saagara Says: 5 September 2008 at 12:25 am Regards Sahhasra Saagara Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> @gro ups.com Fri, 16 October, 2009 7:52:59 PMFW: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Deae Sri Punit Pandeyji, In my opinion, nothing is impossible in Astrology. In K.P.system itself, Shri Kanak Bosmia has written an Article in September, 2007 E.Zine, finding how many sticks are there in a box with the help of RP & horary No. Even in KP Reader, I remember to have read about how many letters in the bag. Somr Articles also appearen In KP Astrology annual or monthly on this subject. Can’t we apply this method to find out how many seats eaxh party will win out of those No.s for wich they contested? Truly yours, K.S.V.Ramani @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Punit Pandey 16 October 2009 15:42@gro ups.com Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Deshpande ji and Friends, This email clearly shows ignorance of "Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti." It shows that they are trying to create confusion in public's mind by announcing such an award. Now see the statement. They say "participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. " Now I wonder where does astrology claim that astrology can predict number of seats won by each major party? There is no rule in any astrology classic whether it is Brihat Jatak, BPHS or KP readers and any other astrology book. This is like asking medical science to show they can cure AIDS patient otherwise they will assume that medical science is blind-faith. This is like asking astronomers to show them landing a rocket on Sun otherwise they will assume astronomy and physics as blind-faith. This is absolutely ridiculous. Like astronomy / physics / medical science, astrology also has limitations. In fact, every science has limitations and that is the reason science is serviving / researching. What can be predicted by astrology is clearly documented and I wish they have courage to put a challenge based on that. Like other sciences, research is going on in astrology with an attempt to improve our predictive knowledge and like scientists we wish that we will be able to predict winning seat some day. But if astrologers can not predict winning-seats, it should not mean that astrology is blind-faith. To conclude, They should stop fooling the society by throwing such ridiculous challenge s. People should also be careful with such fraudulent challenges. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in> wrote: Dear Astrologers, There is a news in Mumbai Mirror (supplement of Times of India) dated 16th Oct, 09 which attracted me & made me think to put it in the forum for information of all. A rationalist group, "Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti" (known as ANS) has announced a reward of Rs 21 Lakh to any astrologer who can predict correctly result of the 13th Oct, 09 Assembly elections. The participants will have to explain scientifically how they have arrived to that conclusion. There is no restriction on what type of astrology one uses. Only the thing is that the astrology used must be based on planetary positions. Participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. ANS has Rs 30 lakh in SBI A/C No. 606265 & astrologers don't have to worry whether they will really be paid after winning. (This is what given in paper) Name of the group is in Marathi & the meaning is "Committee for removal of blind faith" I am not a member of ANS & strongly believe in astrology. Most probably the ANS group is based in Pune & our group members who are from Pune can get the details of contact numbers etc easily from local nws papers. I request the Pune members to help accordingly. Wish you all very best of luck ! Vishram Deshpande Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Connect more, do more and share more with India Mail. Learn more. Connect more, do more and share more with India Mail. Learn more. India has a new look. Take a sneak peek. Try the new India Homepage. Keep up with people you care about with India Mail. Learn how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Dear Sagarji, thank u very much for ur narration on Sun ingress chart. I am eagerly waiting for your articles on previous readings in detail, so that I can learn from u on predicting natural catastrophies based on the Sun ingress chart. Dear Pandeyji, the pattern i follow on asthakavarga system to go for compact reading is as follows: any house which is having less than 24 bindus is short of strength and the significations of that particular house suffers. In Sonia Gandhi"s chart, the 7th house is having 19 bindus and it is clear cut indication that her life partner"s position is not good and is short of strength. with this we can predict problem for her husband, less life span etc. If there are less than 24 in the second house, less finances, probllems in the family problems in the supply of food, problems to visiosn in the right eye etc. same is the pattern with other houses, 3rd, 4th, 5th etc. Late Sri BV.Raman wrote a book on Asthakavarga. It is very simple and very easys to understand, very reasonably priced. When ever Saturn or Mars transit through a rasi, near the cuspal degree of that bhava, in which they are having 0 bindus, very negative results will happen. I follow the transit/aspect of Saturn and Ketu on Sun-Venus-Mercury arc (natal chart) and I found that negative events, like loss of job, financial crisis ( Ramalinga Rajus chart) etc., take place during this transit. In the same way, the transit/aspect of Jupiter and Rahu over this arc in the natal chart gives very positive results. Thank you and wishing u all the best. with regards, t.r.rao--- On Mon, 19/10/09, Sagar S <ssagar86 wrote: Sagar S <ssagar86Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Date: Monday, 19 October, 2009, 11:04 PM Dear Punit and RaoOut of 288 62.% favour will turn towards Ruling and the opposition will get favor of 36.5% i.e, 178 seats-actual 144 minus = 34 to 38 seats is against to opp , now the Rajtakre's party will remain status quo which will not support both ruling and opp resulted in 144 for ruling party and for opp too 144 but 34-38 seats will be indirectly favor to the R party.Dear Rao:Sun Ingress time means sun entering time of each sign at oo degree for each sign. ingeneral every April 14th Sun will be at 00degree Aries which is sun ingress time.Erect for that particular month and analyse the matter u will be able predict so many things for perticular state , country too.For more details Alen Leo's Mundane astrology will help u a lot though it is a very small book.I too get interest on mundane astrology thro' Alen Leo's Mundane astrology. Later i fixed Zodiacal affinities to the Universe and predict Quake dates and places.Only thing is with very small equipment degreewise prediction was 1 degree to 3 degree hence i had predicted Moscow/Kabul or afghan will face quake on 7th Dec 1988 but quake took place at Armenia 1 degree difference to my calculation.Ashtakavarga system had so many hidden points which has to be studied/research on it.With the help of each planetary bindus we can predict many events. With the help of Jupiters benefic dots i predict number of seats in polls and with the help of Moon benefic dots i had predict Marks card in advancde.Dear PandeyI do not know the number of seats of other states parties names of ruling and opp.RegardsSahhsra Saagara Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>@gro ups.comMon, 19 October, 2009 4:48:44 PMRe: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Mr. Rao, Can you please explain with example how you do general reading on a particular house using Ashtakvarga? Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Rao Tammiraju <sreesai_ganesh@ .co. in> wrote: Dear Sagarji, I am a silent participant in the group. i am a practicing remedial astrologer stationed at Hyderabad. i read your mail on asthakavarga and it is very interesting. i also follow asthakavarga theory propounded by BV.Raman for getting a general reading on a particular house it is very useful and it is very accurate. .sometimes, for a brief reading i am using asthakavarga only and it is giving accurate results. your mail is very interesting. Now a days very few astrologer are using asthakavarga theory. I dont know about sungress chart and libra month. can yoou please kindly explain in detail the pattern followed by you in this regard, for which act of kindness i shall be very obliged to you. with regars and best wishes T.R.RAO --- On Mon, 19/10/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- @gro ups.comMonday, 19 October, 2009, 12:10 AM Dear Sagar ji, Thanks for your response. Your applications of ashtakvarga is very interesting. My experience with ashtakvarga is not very good and hence I do not use it at all. I tried ashtakvarga many times in the past on natal horoscopes and results were never satisfactory. Anyways, your email still doesn't answer both of my questions - 1. There are elections in three states. The solar month will remain same. How you will use this method in that case? 2. How you calculated 38 seats for MNS? Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear PunitYes, it is unbelievable but it is my experience and success.My first case was 1984 and my prediction was 87.5% favor for thr the ruling party congress and result was 419 seats for the ruling government.in 1985 i had predicted AGP MLA?MP seats with very accurate and i sent the same to Planets and forecast, the editor Mr.Nimai Banerji write me congradulation for the same.Pakistan peoples party victory and farmation of the same was predicted.Slilanka polls was predicted.In the recent i had predicted Manmohan singh will become PM for 2nd term with 272/273 seats , i had predicted it on 5th September 2008 that is 8 months before even before the polls date was announced.Any one can predict with the help of Benefic dots of Jupiter for the perticular month.sun ingress time chart.4th house signifies opposition,10th house signifies Ruling Government.8 benefic dots will be the highest and 8 equals to 100 or total number of seats.4th house jupiter benefic dots and 10th house jupiter benefic dots to be added and then we have to calculate percentage for the same.for ex:4th house had 6 benefic dots and 10th house had 8 benefic dots = 14 6X288--------14 =hence opp will get 123 seats and Ruling party will get 164 seats.In maharashtra polls Libra month 4th and 10th had 7 benefic dots of Jupiter hence 14 that is 50% for both RP and OPP party.288 seats 50% is 144 seats.so RP anf OPP sill secure 144 seats.I hope i have explained as per my experience.ofcourse now a days i am not keen interenct in doing all these works becoming losing interest in all these.Thanks and regardsSahhasra Saagara Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> @gro ups.com Sat, 17 October, 2009 4:53:10 PM Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Sagar ji, They say "one swallow does not make a summer". Not too long, we struggled predicting correct time of marriage. Forum archive can give good hint of general success and failure. In such a situation a claim like "Anything as well as everything can be predictable through astrological calculations" seems too tall a claim to me. Anyways, I have a suggestion to test your rule. Why don't you go and predict results of all three state elections. It will give use at least three test cases and give us some indication of success percentage. The success percentage that you are claiming (20 out of 24 i.e. more than 83%) should be good enough to make it a rule, if proven. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey PS: Please do not take it as an attempt to belittle any rule or knowledge. But as an astrologer, the point made as well as success claimed are hard to believe for me. On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Hi Anything as well as everything can be predictable through astrological calculations. So many scholors have proved it. BPHS/Brihit Jatakhakya/other astrological texts has given many points how to analyse in what way.only thing is we have to understand the same and implement with care. Number of seats for each party can be predict through Benefic dots and percentage of seats. In the past i have predicted number of seats for ruling party and opposition party in general. I got succeed in 20 cases out of 24 cases. recently i have predicted (after a very long time) on 5th September 2008 itself that Mr.Manmohan singh will be the PM for 2nd term, 16th May 2009 will be the day of Manmohan singh and Ruling party will get 272/273 seats and will farm the Government. Counting date was 16th May 2009, total number of seats were 274 when the Ruling party farmed the Government on 22nd May 2009. http://churumuri. wordpress. com/2007/ 11/12/say- hello-to- the-famous- astrologer- kn-somayaji/ · Sahhasra Saagara Says: 5 September 2008 at 12:25 am Regards Sahhasra Saagara Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> @gro ups.com Fri, 16 October, 2009 7:52:59 PMFW: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Deae Sri Punit Pandeyji, In my opinion, nothing is impossible in Astrology. In K.P.system itself, Shri Kanak Bosmia has written an Article in September, 2007 E.Zine, finding how many sticks are there in a box with the help of RP & horary No. Even in KP Reader, I remember to have read about how many letters in the bag. Somr Articles also appearen In KP Astrology annual or monthly on this subject. Can’t we apply this method to find out how many seats eaxh party will win out of those No.s for wich they contested? Truly yours, K.S.V.Ramani @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Punit Pandey 16 October 2009 15:42@gro ups.com Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Deshpande ji and Friends, This email clearly shows ignorance of "Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti." It shows that they are trying to create confusion in public's mind by announcing such an award. Now see the statement. They say "participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. " Now I wonder where does astrology claim that astrology can predict number of seats won by each major party? There is no rule in any astrology classic whether it is Brihat Jatak, BPHS or KP readers and any other astrology book. This is like asking medical science to show they can cure AIDS patient otherwise they will assume that medical science is blind-faith. This is like asking astronomers to show them landing a rocket on Sun otherwise they will assume astronomy and physics as blind-faith. This is absolutely ridiculous. Like astronomy / physics / medical science, astrology also has limitations. In fact, every science has limitations and that is the reason science is serviving / researching. What can be predicted by astrology is clearly documented and I wish they have courage to put a challenge based on that. Like other sciences, research is going on in astrology with an attempt to improve our predictive knowledge and like scientists we wish that we will be able to predict winning seat some day. But if astrologers can not predict winning-seats, it should not mean that astrology is blind-faith. To conclude, They should stop fooling the society by throwing such ridiculous challenge s. People should also be careful with such fraudulent challenges. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in> wrote: Dear Astrologers, There is a news in Mumbai Mirror (supplement of Times of India) dated 16th Oct, 09 which attracted me & made me think to put it in the forum for information of all. A rationalist group, "Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti" (known as ANS) has announced a reward of Rs 21 Lakh to any astrologer who can predict correctly result of the 13th Oct, 09 Assembly elections. The participants will have to explain scientifically how they have arrived to that conclusion. There is no restriction on what type of astrology one uses. Only the thing is that the astrology used must be based on planetary positions. Participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. ANS has Rs 30 lakh in SBI A/C No. 606265 & astrologers don't have to worry whether they will really be paid after winning. (This is what given in paper) Name of the group is in Marathi & the meaning is "Committee for removal of blind faith" I am not a member of ANS & strongly believe in astrology. Most probably the ANS group is based in Pune & our group members who are from Pune can get the details of contact numbers etc easily from local nws papers. I request the Pune members to help accordingly. Wish you all very best of luck ! Vishram Deshpande Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Connect more, do more and share more with India Mail. Learn more. Connect more, do more and share more with India Mail. Learn more. India has a new look. Take a sneak peek. Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Dear Punitji, In the day time I am busy with the clients. I will explain with the chart of Smt.Sonia Gandhi, in the evening or night time. with regards and best wishes, t.r.rao--- On Mon, 19/10/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: Punit Pandey <punitpRe: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Date: Monday, 19 October, 2009, 4:48 PM Dear Mr. Rao, Can you please explain with example how you do general reading on a particular house using Ashtakvarga? Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Rao Tammiraju <sreesai_ganesh@ .co. in> wrote: Dear Sagarji, I am a silent participant in the group. i am a practicing remedial astrologer stationed at Hyderabad. i read your mail on asthakavarga and it is very interesting. i also follow asthakavarga theory propounded by BV.Raman for getting a general reading on a particular house it is very useful and it is very accurate. .sometimes, for a brief reading i am using asthakavarga only and it is giving accurate results. your mail is very interesting. Now a days very few astrologer are using asthakavarga theory. I dont know about sungress chart and libra month. can yoou please kindly explain in detail the pattern followed by you in this regard, for which act of kindness i shall be very obliged to you. with regars and best wishes T.R.RAO --- On Mon, 19/10/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- @gro ups.comMonday, 19 October, 2009, 12:10 AM Dear Sagar ji, Thanks for your response. Your applications of ashtakvarga is very interesting. My experience with ashtakvarga is not very good and hence I do not use it at all. I tried ashtakvarga many times in the past on natal horoscopes and results were never satisfactory. Anyways, your email still doesn't answer both of my questions - 1. There are elections in three states. The solar month will remain same. How you will use this method in that case? 2. How you calculated 38 seats for MNS? Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear PunitYes, it is unbelievable but it is my experience and success.My first case was 1984 and my prediction was 87.5% favor for thr the ruling party congress and result was 419 seats for the ruling government.in 1985 i had predicted AGP MLA?MP seats with very accurate and i sent the same to Planets and forecast, the editor Mr.Nimai Banerji write me congradulation for the same.Pakistan peoples party victory and farmation of the same was predicted.Slilanka polls was predicted.In the recent i had predicted Manmohan singh will become PM for 2nd term with 272/273 seats , i had predicted it on 5th September 2008 that is 8 months before even before the polls date was announced.Any one can predict with the help of Benefic dots of Jupiter for the perticular month.sun ingress time chart.4th house signifies opposition,10th house signifies Ruling Government.8 benefic dots will be the highest and 8 equals to 100 or total number of seats.4th house jupiter benefic dots and 10th house jupiter benefic dots to be added and then we have to calculate percentage for the same.for ex:4th house had 6 benefic dots and 10th house had 8 benefic dots = 14 6X288--------14 =hence opp will get 123 seats and Ruling party will get 164 seats.In maharashtra polls Libra month 4th and 10th had 7 benefic dots of Jupiter hence 14 that is 50% for both RP and OPP party.288 seats 50% is 144 seats.so RP anf OPP sill secure 144 seats.I hope i have explained as per my experience.ofcourse now a days i am not keen interenct in doing all these works becoming losing interest in all these.Thanks and regardsSahhasra Saagara Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> @gro ups.com Sat, 17 October, 2009 4:53:10 PM Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Sagar ji, They say "one swallow does not make a summer". Not too long, we struggled predicting correct time of marriage. Forum archive can give good hint of general success and failure. In such a situation a claim like "Anything as well as everything can be predictable through astrological calculations" seems too tall a claim to me. Anyways, I have a suggestion to test your rule. Why don't you go and predict results of all three state elections. It will give use at least three test cases and give us some indication of success percentage. The success percentage that you are claiming (20 out of 24 i.e. more than 83%) should be good enough to make it a rule, if proven. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey PS: Please do not take it as an attempt to belittle any rule or knowledge. But as an astrologer, the point made as well as success claimed are hard to believe for me. On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Hi Anything as well as everything can be predictable through astrological calculations. So many scholors have proved it. BPHS/Brihit Jatakhakya/other astrological texts has given many points how to analyse in what way.only thing is we have to understand the same and implement with care. Number of seats for each party can be predict through Benefic dots and percentage of seats. In the past i have predicted number of seats for ruling party and opposition party in general. I got succeed in 20 cases out of 24 cases. recently i have predicted (after a very long time) on 5th September 2008 itself that Mr.Manmohan singh will be the PM for 2nd term, 16th May 2009 will be the day of Manmohan singh and Ruling party will get 272/273 seats and will farm the Government. Counting date was 16th May 2009, total number of seats were 274 when the Ruling party farmed the Government on 22nd May 2009. http://churumuri. wordpress. com/2007/ 11/12/say- hello-to- the-famous- astrologer- kn-somayaji/ · Sahhasra Saagara Says: 5 September 2008 at 12:25 am Regards Sahhasra Saagara Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> @gro ups.com Fri, 16 October, 2009 7:52:59 PMFW: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Deae Sri Punit Pandeyji, In my opinion, nothing is impossible in Astrology. In K.P.system itself, Shri Kanak Bosmia has written an Article in September, 2007 E.Zine, finding how many sticks are there in a box with the help of RP & horary No. Even in KP Reader, I remember to have read about how many letters in the bag. Somr Articles also appearen In KP Astrology annual or monthly on this subject. Can’t we apply this method to find out how many seats eaxh party will win out of those No.s for wich they contested? Truly yours, K.S.V.Ramani @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Punit Pandey 16 October 2009 15:42@gro ups.com Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Deshpande ji and Friends, This email clearly shows ignorance of "Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti." It shows that they are trying to create confusion in public's mind by announcing such an award. Now see the statement. They say "participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. " Now I wonder where does astrology claim that astrology can predict number of seats won by each major party? There is no rule in any astrology classic whether it is Brihat Jatak, BPHS or KP readers and any other astrology book. This is like asking medical science to show they can cure AIDS patient otherwise they will assume that medical science is blind-faith. This is like asking astronomers to show them landing a rocket on Sun otherwise they will assume astronomy and physics as blind-faith. This is absolutely ridiculous. Like astronomy / physics / medical science, astrology also has limitations. In fact, every science has limitations and that is the reason science is serviving / researching. What can be predicted by astrology is clearly documented and I wish they have courage to put a challenge based on that. Like other sciences, research is going on in astrology with an attempt to improve our predictive knowledge and like scientists we wish that we will be able to predict winning seat some day. But if astrologers can not predict winning-seats, it should not mean that astrology is blind-faith. To conclude, They should stop fooling the society by throwing such ridiculous challenge s. People should also be careful with such fraudulent challenges. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in> wrote: Dear Astrologers, There is a news in Mumbai Mirror (supplement of Times of India) dated 16th Oct, 09 which attracted me & made me think to put it in the forum for information of all. A rationalist group, "Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti" (known as ANS) has announced a reward of Rs 21 Lakh to any astrologer who can predict correctly result of the 13th Oct, 09 Assembly elections. The participants will have to explain scientifically how they have arrived to that conclusion. There is no restriction on what type of astrology one uses. Only the thing is that the astrology used must be based on planetary positions. Participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. ANS has Rs 30 lakh in SBI A/C No. 606265 & astrologers don't have to worry whether they will really be paid after winning. (This is what given in paper) Name of the group is in Marathi & the meaning is "Committee for removal of blind faith" I am not a member of ANS & strongly believe in astrology. Most probably the ANS group is based in Pune & our group members who are from Pune can get the details of contact numbers etc easily from local nws papers. I request the Pune members to help accordingly. Wish you all very best of luck ! Vishram Deshpande Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Connect more, do more and share more with India Mail. Learn more. Connect more, do more and share more with India Mail. Learn more. India has a new look. Take a sneak peek. Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Dear Sujataji, kindly go through the book ASTHAKAVARGA written by late Sri BV.RAMAN. It is very lucid, simple and self explanatory and gives u a very simple way to assess a chart in general. It will take u maximum half an hour to go through the book. it is an asset for every astrologer. Kindly go through the mail i sent in the group addressed to Sagarji and Pandeyji. There u can learn about Sun-Venus-Mercury arc. with best wishes, t.r.rao--- On Mon, 19/10/09, sujata das <sujatadash1 wrote: sujata das <sujatadash1Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Date: Monday, 19 October, 2009, 3:01 PM Dear Mr SagarHow can these benific dots be utilized by us. Are all planets use to guage various events of life ? Do the dots change with months RegardsSujata Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.comSun, 18 October, 2009 11:46:08 PMRe: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear PunitYes, it is unbelievable but it is my experience and success.My first case was 1984 and my prediction was 87.5% favor for thr the ruling party congress and result was 419 seats for the ruling government.in 1985 i had predicted AGP MLA?MP seats with very accurate and i sent the same to Planets and forecast, the editor Mr.Nimai Banerji write me congradulation for the same.Pakistan peoples party victory and farmation of the same was predicted.Slilanka polls was predicted.In the recent i had predicted Manmohan singh will become PM for 2nd term with 272/273 seats , i had predicted it on 5th September 2008 that is 8 months before even before the polls date was announced.Any one can predict with the help of Benefic dots of Jupiter for the perticular month.sun ingress time chart.4th house signifies opposition,10th house signifies Ruling Government.8 benefic dots will be the highest and 8 equals to 100 or total number of seats.4th house jupiter benefic dots and 10th house jupiter benefic dots to be added and then we have to calculate percentage for the same.for ex:4th house had 6 benefic dots and 10th house had 8 benefic dots = 14 6X288--------14 =hence opp will get 123 seats and Ruling party will get 164 seats.In maharashtra polls Libra month 4th and 10th had 7 benefic dots of Jupiter hence 14 that is 50% for both RP and OPP party.288 seats 50% is 144 seats.so RP anf OPP sill secure 144 seats.I hope i have explained as per my experience.ofcourse now a days i am not keen interenct in doing all these works becoming losing interest in all these.Thanks and regardsSahhasra Saagara Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>@gro ups.comSat, 17 October, 2009 4:53:10 PMRe: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Sagar ji, They say "one swallow does not make a summer". Not too long, we struggled predicting correct time of marriage. Forum archive can give good hint of general success and failure. In such a situation a claim like "Anything as well as everything can be predictable through astrological calculations" seems too tall a claim to me. Anyways, I have a suggestion to test your rule. Why don't you go and predict results of all three state elections. It will give use at least three test cases and give us some indication of success percentage. The success percentage that you are claiming (20 out of 24 i.e. more than 83%) should be good enough to make it a rule, if proven. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey PS: Please do not take it as an attempt to belittle any rule or knowledge. But as an astrologer, the point made as well as success claimed are hard to believe for me. On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Hi Anything as well as everything can be predictable through astrological calculations. So many scholors have proved it. BPHS/Brihit Jatakhakya/other astrological texts has given many points how to analyse in what way.only thing is we have to understand the same and implement with care. Number of seats for each party can be predict through Benefic dots and percentage of seats. In the past i have predicted number of seats for ruling party and opposition party in general. I got succeed in 20 cases out of 24 cases. recently i have predicted (after a very long time) on 5th September 2008 itself that Mr.Manmohan singh will be the PM for 2nd term, 16th May 2009 will be the day of Manmohan singh and Ruling party will get 272/273 seats and will farm the Government. Counting date was 16th May 2009, total number of seats were 274 when the Ruling party farmed the Government on 22nd May 2009. http://churumuri. wordpress. com/2007/ 11/12/say- hello-to- the-famous- astrologer- kn-somayaji/ · Sahhasra Saagara Says: 5 September 2008 at 12:25 am Regards Sahhasra Saagara Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> @gro ups.comFri, 16 October, 2009 7:52:59 PMFW: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Deae Sri Punit Pandeyji, In my opinion, nothing is impossible in Astrology. In K.P.system itself, Shri Kanak Bosmia has written an Article in September, 2007 E.Zine, finding how many sticks are there in a box with the help of RP & horary No. Even in KP Reader, I remember to have read about how many letters in the bag. Somr Articles also appearen In KP Astrology annual or monthly on this subject. Can’t we apply this method to find out how many seats eaxh party will win out of those No.s for wich they contested? Truly yours, K.S.V.Ramani @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Punit Pandey 16 October 2009 15:42@gro ups.com Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Deshpande ji and Friends, This email clearly shows ignorance of "Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti." It shows that they are trying to create confusion in public's mind by announcing such an award. Now see the statement. They say "participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. " Now I wonder where does astrology claim that astrology can predict number of seats won by each major party? There is no rule in any astrology classic whether it is Brihat Jatak, BPHS or KP readers and any other astrology book. This is like asking medical science to show they can cure AIDS patient otherwise they will assume that medical science is blind-faith. This is like asking astronomers to show them landing a rocket on Sun otherwise they will assume astronomy and physics as blind-faith. This is absolutely ridiculous. Like astronomy / physics / medical science, astrology also has limitations. In fact, every science has limitations and that is the reason science is serviving / researching. What can be predicted by astrology is clearly documented and I wish they have courage to put a challenge based on that. Like other sciences, research is going on in astrology with an attempt to improve our predictive knowledge and like scientists we wish that we will be able to predict winning seat some day. But if astrologers can not predict winning-seats, it should not mean that astrology is blind-faith. To conclude, They should stop fooling the society by throwing such ridiculous challenge s. People should also be careful with such fraudulent challenges. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in> wrote: Dear Astrologers, There is a news in Mumbai Mirror (supplement of Times of India) dated 16th Oct, 09 which attracted me & made me think to put it in the forum for information of all. A rationalist group, "Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti" (known as ANS) has announced a reward of Rs 21 Lakh to any astrologer who can predict correctly result of the 13th Oct, 09 Assembly elections. The participants will have to explain scientifically how they have arrived to that conclusion. There is no restriction on what type of astrology one uses. Only the thing is that the astrology used must be based on planetary positions. Participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. ANS has Rs 30 lakh in SBI A/C No. 606265 & astrologers don't have to worry whether they will really be paid after winning. (This is what given in paper) Name of the group is in Marathi & the meaning is "Committee for removal of blind faith" I am not a member of ANS & strongly believe in astrology. Most probably the ANS group is based in Pune & our group members who are from Pune can get the details of contact numbers etc easily from local nws papers. I request the Pune members to help accordingly. Wish you all very best of luck ! Vishram Deshpande Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Connect more, do more and share more with India Mail. Learn more. Connect more, do more and share more with India Mail. Learn more. Now, send attachments up to 25MB with India Mail. Learn how. Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Hi BV Raman's "ashtakavarga system of predictions" and one more author too worked on the same. everyday benefic dots will change and with the help of the Moon's benefic dots we can predict Marks card in advance. Regards Sahhasra Saagara Rao Tammiraju <sreesai_ganesh Sent: Tue, 20 October, 2009 9:11:44 AMRe: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Sujataji, kindly go through the book ASTHAKAVARGA written by late Sri BV.RAMAN. It is very lucid, simple and self explanatory and gives u a very simple way to assess a chart in general. It will take u maximum half an hour to go through the book. it is an asset for every astrologer. Kindly go through the mail i sent in the group addressed to Sagarji and Pandeyji. There u can learn about Sun-Venus-Mercury arc. with best wishes, t.r.rao--- On Mon, 19/10/09, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> wrote: sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/-@gro ups.comMonday, 19 October, 2009, 3:01 PM Dear Mr SagarHow can these benific dots be utilized by us. Are all planets use to guage various events of life ? Do the dots change with months RegardsSujata Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.comSun, 18 October, 2009 11:46:08 PMRe: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear PunitYes, it is unbelievable but it is my experience and success.My first case was 1984 and my prediction was 87.5% favor for thr the ruling party congress and result was 419 seats for the ruling government.in 1985 i had predicted AGP MLA?MP seats with very accurate and i sent the same to Planets and forecast, the editor Mr.Nimai Banerji write me congradulation for the same.Pakistan peoples party victory and farmation of the same was predicted.Slilanka polls was predicted.In the recent i had predicted Manmohan singh will become PM for 2nd term with 272/273 seats , i had predicted it on 5th September 2008 that is 8 months before even before the polls date was announced.Any one can predict with the help of Benefic dots of Jupiter for the perticular month.sun ingress time chart.4th house signifies opposition,10th house signifies Ruling Government.8 benefic dots will be the highest and 8 equals to 100 or total number of seats.4th house jupiter benefic dots and 10th house jupiter benefic dots to be added and then we have to calculate percentage for the same.for ex:4th house had 6 benefic dots and 10th house had 8 benefic dots = 14 6X288--------14 =hence opp will get 123 seats and Ruling party will get 164 seats.In maharashtra polls Libra month 4th and 10th had 7 benefic dots of Jupiter hence 14 that is 50% for both RP and OPP party.288 seats 50% is 144 seats.so RP anf OPP sill secure 144 seats.I hope i have explained as per my experience.ofcourse now a days i am not keen interenct in doing all these works becoming losing interest in all these.Thanks and regardsSahhasra Saagara Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>@gro ups.comSat, 17 October, 2009 4:53:10 PMRe: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Sagar ji, They say "one swallow does not make a summer". Not too long, we struggled predicting correct time of marriage. Forum archive can give good hint of general success and failure. In such a situation a claim like "Anything as well as everything can be predictable through astrological calculations" seems too tall a claim to me. Anyways, I have a suggestion to test your rule. Why don't you go and predict results of all three state elections. It will give use at least three test cases and give us some indication of success percentage. The success percentage that you are claiming (20 out of 24 i.e. more than 83%) should be good enough to make it a rule, if proven. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey PS: Please do not take it as an attempt to belittle any rule or knowledge. But as an astrologer, the point made as well as success claimed are hard to believe for me. On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Hi Anything as well as everything can be predictable through astrological calculations. So many scholors have proved it. BPHS/Brihit Jatakhakya/other astrological texts has given many points how to analyse in what way.only thing is we have to understand the same and implement with care. Number of seats for each party can be predict through Benefic dots and percentage of seats. In the past i have predicted number of seats for ruling party and opposition party in general. I got succeed in 20 cases out of 24 cases. recently i have predicted (after a very long time) on 5th September 2008 itself that Mr.Manmohan singh will be the PM for 2nd term, 16th May 2009 will be the day of Manmohan singh and Ruling party will get 272/273 seats and will farm the Government. Counting date was 16th May 2009, total number of seats were 274 when the Ruling party farmed the Government on 22nd May 2009. http://churumuri. wordpress. com/2007/ 11/12/say- hello-to- the-famous- astrologer- kn-somayaji/ · Sahhasra Saagara Says: 5 September 2008 at 12:25 am Regards Sahhasra Saagara Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> @gro ups.comFri, 16 October, 2009 7:52:59 PMFW: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Deae Sri Punit Pandeyji, In my opinion, nothing is impossible in Astrology. In K.P.system itself, Shri Kanak Bosmia has written an Article in September, 2007 E.Zine, finding how many sticks are there in a box with the help of RP & horary No. Even in KP Reader, I remember to have read about how many letters in the bag. Somr Articles also appearen In KP Astrology annual or monthly on this subject. Can’t we apply this method to find out how many seats eaxh party will win out of those No.s for wich they contested? Truly yours, K.S.V.Ramani @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Punit Pandey 16 October 2009 15:42@gro ups.com Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Deshpande ji and Friends, This email clearly shows ignorance of "Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti." It shows that they are trying to create confusion in public's mind by announcing such an award. Now see the statement. They say "participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. " Now I wonder where does astrology claim that astrology can predict number of seats won by each major party? There is no rule in any astrology classic whether it is Brihat Jatak, BPHS or KP readers and any other astrology book. This is like asking medical science to show they can cure AIDS patient otherwise they will assume that medical science is blind-faith. This is like asking astronomers to show them landing a rocket on Sun otherwise they will assume astronomy and physics as blind-faith. This is absolutely ridiculous. Like astronomy / physics / medical science, astrology also has limitations. In fact, every science has limitations and that is the reason science is serviving / researching. What can be predicted by astrology is clearly documented and I wish they have courage to put a challenge based on that. Like other sciences, research is going on in astrology with an attempt to improve our predictive knowledge and like scientists we wish that we will be able to predict winning seat some day. But if astrologers can not predict winning-seats, it should not mean that astrology is blind-faith. To conclude, They should stop fooling the society by throwing such ridiculous challenge s. People should also be careful with such fraudulent challenges. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in> wrote: Dear Astrologers, There is a news in Mumbai Mirror (supplement of Times of India) dated 16th Oct, 09 which attracted me & made me think to put it in the forum for information of all. A rationalist group, "Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti" (known as ANS) has announced a reward of Rs 21 Lakh to any astrologer who can predict correctly result of the 13th Oct, 09 Assembly elections. The participants will have to explain scientifically how they have arrived to that conclusion. There is no restriction on what type of astrology one uses. Only the thing is that the astrology used must be based on planetary positions. Participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. ANS has Rs 30 lakh in SBI A/C No. 606265 & astrologers don't have to worry whether they will really be paid after winning. (This is what given in paper) Name of the group is in Marathi & the meaning is "Committee for removal of blind faith" I am not a member of ANS & strongly believe in astrology. Most probably the ANS group is based in Pune & our group members who are from Pune can get the details of contact numbers etc easily from local nws papers. I request the Pune members to help accordingly. Wish you all very best of luck ! Vishram Deshpande Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Connect more, do more and share more with India Mail. Learn more. Connect more, do more and share more with India Mail. Learn more. Now, send attachments up to 25MB with India Mail. Learn how. Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Now, send attachments up to 25MB with India Mail. Learn how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Dear Mr.Rao Plz mail me the general events predictions example of Sonia gandhi when u mail the same to Mr. punit . Regards Sahhasra Saagara Rao Tammiraju <sreesai_ganesh Sent: Tue, 20 October, 2009 9:01:23 AMRe: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Punitji, In the day time I am busy with the clients. I will explain with the chart of Smt.Sonia Gandhi, in the evening or night time. with regards and best wishes, t.r.rao--- On Mon, 19/10/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/-@gro ups.comMonday, 19 October, 2009, 4:48 PM Dear Mr. Rao, Can you please explain with example how you do general reading on a particular house using Ashtakvarga? Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Rao Tammiraju <sreesai_ganesh@ .co. in> wrote: Dear Sagarji, I am a silent participant in the group. i am a practicing remedial astrologer stationed at Hyderabad. i read your mail on asthakavarga and it is very interesting. i also follow asthakavarga theory propounded by BV.Raman for getting a general reading on a particular house it is very useful and it is very accurate. .sometimes, for a brief reading i am using asthakavarga only and it is giving accurate results. your mail is very interesting. Now a days very few astrologer are using asthakavarga theory. I dont know about sungress chart and libra month. can yoou please kindly explain in detail the pattern followed by you in this regard, for which act of kindness i shall be very obliged to you. with regars and best wishes T.R.RAO --- On Mon, 19/10/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- @gro ups.comMonday, 19 October, 2009, 12:10 AM Dear Sagar ji, Thanks for your response. Your applications of ashtakvarga is very interesting. My experience with ashtakvarga is not very good and hence I do not use it at all. I tried ashtakvarga many times in the past on natal horoscopes and results were never satisfactory. Anyways, your email still doesn't answer both of my questions - 1. There are elections in three states. The solar month will remain same. How you will use this method in that case? 2. How you calculated 38 seats for MNS? Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear PunitYes, it is unbelievable but it is my experience and success.My first case was 1984 and my prediction was 87.5% favor for thr the ruling party congress and result was 419 seats for the ruling government.in 1985 i had predicted AGP MLA?MP seats with very accurate and i sent the same to Planets and forecast, the editor Mr.Nimai Banerji write me congradulation for the same.Pakistan peoples party victory and farmation of the same was predicted.Slilanka polls was predicted.In the recent i had predicted Manmohan singh will become PM for 2nd term with 272/273 seats , i had predicted it on 5th September 2008 that is 8 months before even before the polls date was announced.Any one can predict with the help of Benefic dots of Jupiter for the perticular month.sun ingress time chart.4th house signifies opposition,10th house signifies Ruling Government.8 benefic dots will be the highest and 8 equals to 100 or total number of seats.4th house jupiter benefic dots and 10th house jupiter benefic dots to be added and then we have to calculate percentage for the same.for ex:4th house had 6 benefic dots and 10th house had 8 benefic dots = 14 6X288--------14 =hence opp will get 123 seats and Ruling party will get 164 seats.In maharashtra polls Libra month 4th and 10th had 7 benefic dots of Jupiter hence 14 that is 50% for both RP and OPP party.288 seats 50% is 144 seats.so RP anf OPP sill secure 144 seats.I hope i have explained as per my experience.ofcourse now a days i am not keen interenct in doing all these works becoming losing interest in all these.Thanks and regardsSahhasra Saagara Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> @gro ups.com Sat, 17 October, 2009 4:53:10 PM Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Sagar ji, They say "one swallow does not make a summer". Not too long, we struggled predicting correct time of marriage. Forum archive can give good hint of general success and failure. In such a situation a claim like "Anything as well as everything can be predictable through astrological calculations" seems too tall a claim to me. Anyways, I have a suggestion to test your rule. Why don't you go and predict results of all three state elections. It will give use at least three test cases and give us some indication of success percentage. The success percentage that you are claiming (20 out of 24 i.e. more than 83%) should be good enough to make it a rule, if proven. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey PS: Please do not take it as an attempt to belittle any rule or knowledge. But as an astrologer, the point made as well as success claimed are hard to believe for me. On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Hi Anything as well as everything can be predictable through astrological calculations. So many scholors have proved it. BPHS/Brihit Jatakhakya/other astrological texts has given many points how to analyse in what way.only thing is we have to understand the same and implement with care. Number of seats for each party can be predict through Benefic dots and percentage of seats. In the past i have predicted number of seats for ruling party and opposition party in general. I got succeed in 20 cases out of 24 cases. recently i have predicted (after a very long time) on 5th September 2008 itself that Mr.Manmohan singh will be the PM for 2nd term, 16th May 2009 will be the day of Manmohan singh and Ruling party will get 272/273 seats and will farm the Government. Counting date was 16th May 2009, total number of seats were 274 when the Ruling party farmed the Government on 22nd May 2009. http://churumuri. wordpress. com/2007/ 11/12/say- hello-to- the-famous- astrologer- kn-somayaji/ · Sahhasra Saagara Says: 5 September 2008 at 12:25 am Regards Sahhasra Saagara Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> @gro ups.com Fri, 16 October, 2009 7:52:59 PMFW: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Deae Sri Punit Pandeyji, In my opinion, nothing is impossible in Astrology. In K.P.system itself, Shri Kanak Bosmia has written an Article in September, 2007 E.Zine, finding how many sticks are there in a box with the help of RP & horary No. Even in KP Reader, I remember to have read about how many letters in the bag. Somr Articles also appearen In KP Astrology annual or monthly on this subject. Can’t we apply this method to find out how many seats eaxh party will win out of those No.s for wich they contested? Truly yours, K.S.V.Ramani @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Punit Pandey 16 October 2009 15:42@gro ups.com Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Deshpande ji and Friends, This email clearly shows ignorance of "Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti." It shows that they are trying to create confusion in public's mind by announcing such an award. Now see the statement. They say "participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. " Now I wonder where does astrology claim that astrology can predict number of seats won by each major party? There is no rule in any astrology classic whether it is Brihat Jatak, BPHS or KP readers and any other astrology book. This is like asking medical science to show they can cure AIDS patient otherwise they will assume that medical science is blind-faith. This is like asking astronomers to show them landing a rocket on Sun otherwise they will assume astronomy and physics as blind-faith. This is absolutely ridiculous. Like astronomy / physics / medical science, astrology also has limitations. In fact, every science has limitations and that is the reason science is serviving / researching. What can be predicted by astrology is clearly documented and I wish they have courage to put a challenge based on that. Like other sciences, research is going on in astrology with an attempt to improve our predictive knowledge and like scientists we wish that we will be able to predict winning seat some day. But if astrologers can not predict winning-seats, it should not mean that astrology is blind-faith. To conclude, They should stop fooling the society by throwing such ridiculous challenge s. People should also be careful with such fraudulent challenges. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in> wrote: Dear Astrologers, There is a news in Mumbai Mirror (supplement of Times of India) dated 16th Oct, 09 which attracted me & made me think to put it in the forum for information of all. A rationalist group, "Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti" (known as ANS) has announced a reward of Rs 21 Lakh to any astrologer who can predict correctly result of the 13th Oct, 09 Assembly elections. The participants will have to explain scientifically how they have arrived to that conclusion. There is no restriction on what type of astrology one uses. Only the thing is that the astrology used must be based on planetary positions. Participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. ANS has Rs 30 lakh in SBI A/C No. 606265 & astrologers don't have to worry whether they will really be paid after winning. (This is what given in paper) Name of the group is in Marathi & the meaning is "Committee for removal of blind faith" I am not a member of ANS & strongly believe in astrology. Most probably the ANS group is based in Pune & our group members who are from Pune can get the details of contact numbers etc easily from local nws papers. I request the Pune members to help accordingly. Wish you all very best of luck ! Vishram Deshpande Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Connect more, do more and share more with India Mail. Learn more. Connect more, do more and share more with India Mail. Learn more. India has a new look. Take a sneak peek. Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! From cricket scores to your friends. Try the India Homepage! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Dear Rao u have gone through BV raman's work which is very good indeed. Mr.Amitabh Bachchan and i were born with Kumbha lagna and Libra moon sign, Bachcan's star is swati and mine is Vishaka. Virgo had 18/19 benefic dots for us resulted in health problem in 1982 . Bachchan faced injury and suffered for four months and i too suffered ill-health due to infection. Health, wealth, financial benefit or loss and many events of life can be predictable through the help of Ashtakavarga system of predictions. Regards Sahhasra Saagara Rao Tammiraju <sreesai_ganesh Sent: Tue, 20 October, 2009 8:49:00 AMRe: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Sagarji, thank u very much for ur narration on Sun ingress chart. I am eagerly waiting for your articles on previous readings in detail, so that I can learn from u on predicting natural catastrophies based on the Sun ingress chart. Dear Pandeyji, the pattern i follow on asthakavarga system to go for compact reading is as follows: any house which is having less than 24 bindus is short of strength and the significations of that particular house suffers. In Sonia Gandhi"s chart, the 7th house is having 19 bindus and it is clear cut indication that her life partner"s position is not good and is short of strength. with this we can predict problem for her husband, less life span etc. If there are less than 24 in the second house, less finances, probllems in the family problems in the supply of food, problems to visiosn in the right eye etc. same is the pattern with other houses, 3rd, 4th, 5th etc. Late Sri BV.Raman wrote a book on Asthakavarga. It is very simple and very easys to understand, very reasonably priced. When ever Saturn or Mars transit through a rasi, near the cuspal degree of that bhava, in which they are having 0 bindus, very negative results will happen. I follow the transit/aspect of Saturn and Ketu on Sun-Venus-Mercury arc (natal chart) and I found that negative events, like loss of job, financial crisis ( Ramalinga Rajus chart) etc., take place during this transit. In the same way, the transit/aspect of Jupiter and Rahu over this arc in the natal chart gives very positive results. Thank you and wishing u all the best. with regards, t.r.rao--- On Mon, 19/10/09, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/-@gro ups.comMonday, 19 October, 2009, 11:04 PM Dear Punit and RaoOut of 288 62.% favour will turn towards Ruling and the opposition will get favor of 36.5% i.e, 178 seats-actual 144 minus = 34 to 38 seats is against to opp , now the Rajtakre's party will remain status quo which will not support both ruling and opp resulted in 144 for ruling party and for opp too 144 but 34-38 seats will be indirectly favor to the R party.Dear Rao:Sun Ingress time means sun entering time of each sign at oo degree for each sign. ingeneral every April 14th Sun will be at 00degree Aries which is sun ingress time.Erect for that particular month and analyse the matter u will be able predict so many things for perticular state , country too.For more details Alen Leo's Mundane astrology will help u a lot though it is a very small book.I too get interest on mundane astrology thro' Alen Leo's Mundane astrology. Later i fixed Zodiacal affinities to the Universe and predict Quake dates and places.Only thing is with very small equipment degreewise prediction was 1 degree to 3 degree hence i had predicted Moscow/Kabul or afghan will face quake on 7th Dec 1988 but quake took place at Armenia 1 degree difference to my calculation.Ashtakavarga system had so many hidden points which has to be studied/research on it.With the help of each planetary bindus we can predict many events. With the help of Jupiters benefic dots i predict number of seats in polls and with the help of Moon benefic dots i had predict Marks card in advancde.Dear PandeyI do not know the number of seats of other states parties names of ruling and opp.RegardsSahhsra Saagara Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>@gro ups.comMon, 19 October, 2009 4:48:44 PMRe: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Mr. Rao, Can you please explain with example how you do general reading on a particular house using Ashtakvarga? Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Rao Tammiraju <sreesai_ganesh@ .co. in> wrote: Dear Sagarji, I am a silent participant in the group. i am a practicing remedial astrologer stationed at Hyderabad. i read your mail on asthakavarga and it is very interesting. i also follow asthakavarga theory propounded by BV.Raman for getting a general reading on a particular house it is very useful and it is very accurate. .sometimes, for a brief reading i am using asthakavarga only and it is giving accurate results. your mail is very interesting. Now a days very few astrologer are using asthakavarga theory. I dont know about sungress chart and libra month. can yoou please kindly explain in detail the pattern followed by you in this regard, for which act of kindness i shall be very obliged to you. with regars and best wishes T.R.RAO --- On Mon, 19/10/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- @gro ups.comMonday, 19 October, 2009, 12:10 AM Dear Sagar ji, Thanks for your response. Your applications of ashtakvarga is very interesting. My experience with ashtakvarga is not very good and hence I do not use it at all. I tried ashtakvarga many times in the past on natal horoscopes and results were never satisfactory. Anyways, your email still doesn't answer both of my questions - 1. There are elections in three states. The solar month will remain same. How you will use this method in that case? 2. How you calculated 38 seats for MNS? Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear PunitYes, it is unbelievable but it is my experience and success.My first case was 1984 and my prediction was 87.5% favor for thr the ruling party congress and result was 419 seats for the ruling government.in 1985 i had predicted AGP MLA?MP seats with very accurate and i sent the same to Planets and forecast, the editor Mr.Nimai Banerji write me congradulation for the same.Pakistan peoples party victory and farmation of the same was predicted.Slilanka polls was predicted.In the recent i had predicted Manmohan singh will become PM for 2nd term with 272/273 seats , i had predicted it on 5th September 2008 that is 8 months before even before the polls date was announced.Any one can predict with the help of Benefic dots of Jupiter for the perticular month.sun ingress time chart.4th house signifies opposition,10th house signifies Ruling Government.8 benefic dots will be the highest and 8 equals to 100 or total number of seats.4th house jupiter benefic dots and 10th house jupiter benefic dots to be added and then we have to calculate percentage for the same.for ex:4th house had 6 benefic dots and 10th house had 8 benefic dots = 14 6X288--------14 =hence opp will get 123 seats and Ruling party will get 164 seats.In maharashtra polls Libra month 4th and 10th had 7 benefic dots of Jupiter hence 14 that is 50% for both RP and OPP party.288 seats 50% is 144 seats.so RP anf OPP sill secure 144 seats.I hope i have explained as per my experience.ofcourse now a days i am not keen interenct in doing all these works becoming losing interest in all these.Thanks and regardsSahhasra Saagara Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> @gro ups.com Sat, 17 October, 2009 4:53:10 PM Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Sagar ji, They say "one swallow does not make a summer". Not too long, we struggled predicting correct time of marriage. Forum archive can give good hint of general success and failure. In such a situation a claim like "Anything as well as everything can be predictable through astrological calculations" seems too tall a claim to me. Anyways, I have a suggestion to test your rule. Why don't you go and predict results of all three state elections. It will give use at least three test cases and give us some indication of success percentage. The success percentage that you are claiming (20 out of 24 i.e. more than 83%) should be good enough to make it a rule, if proven. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey PS: Please do not take it as an attempt to belittle any rule or knowledge. But as an astrologer, the point made as well as success claimed are hard to believe for me. On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Hi Anything as well as everything can be predictable through astrological calculations. So many scholors have proved it. BPHS/Brihit Jatakhakya/other astrological texts has given many points how to analyse in what way.only thing is we have to understand the same and implement with care. Number of seats for each party can be predict through Benefic dots and percentage of seats. In the past i have predicted number of seats for ruling party and opposition party in general. I got succeed in 20 cases out of 24 cases. recently i have predicted (after a very long time) on 5th September 2008 itself that Mr.Manmohan singh will be the PM for 2nd term, 16th May 2009 will be the day of Manmohan singh and Ruling party will get 272/273 seats and will farm the Government. Counting date was 16th May 2009, total number of seats were 274 when the Ruling party farmed the Government on 22nd May 2009. http://churumuri. wordpress. com/2007/ 11/12/say- hello-to- the-famous- astrologer- kn-somayaji/ · Sahhasra Saagara Says: 5 September 2008 at 12:25 am Regards Sahhasra Saagara Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> @gro ups.com Fri, 16 October, 2009 7:52:59 PMFW: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Deae Sri Punit Pandeyji, In my opinion, nothing is impossible in Astrology. In K.P.system itself, Shri Kanak Bosmia has written an Article in September, 2007 E.Zine, finding how many sticks are there in a box with the help of RP & horary No. Even in KP Reader, I remember to have read about how many letters in the bag. Somr Articles also appearen In KP Astrology annual or monthly on this subject. Can’t we apply this method to find out how many seats eaxh party will win out of those No.s for wich they contested? Truly yours, K.S.V.Ramani @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Punit Pandey 16 October 2009 15:42@gro ups.com Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Dear Deshpande ji and Friends, This email clearly shows ignorance of "Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti." It shows that they are trying to create confusion in public's mind by announcing such an award. Now see the statement. They say "participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. " Now I wonder where does astrology claim that astrology can predict number of seats won by each major party? There is no rule in any astrology classic whether it is Brihat Jatak, BPHS or KP readers and any other astrology book. This is like asking medical science to show they can cure AIDS patient otherwise they will assume that medical science is blind-faith. This is like asking astronomers to show them landing a rocket on Sun otherwise they will assume astronomy and physics as blind-faith. This is absolutely ridiculous. Like astronomy / physics / medical science, astrology also has limitations. In fact, every science has limitations and that is the reason science is serviving / researching. What can be predicted by astrology is clearly documented and I wish they have courage to put a challenge based on that. Like other sciences, research is going on in astrology with an attempt to improve our predictive knowledge and like scientists we wish that we will be able to predict winning seat some day. But if astrologers can not predict winning-seats, it should not mean that astrology is blind-faith. To conclude, They should stop fooling the society by throwing such ridiculous challenge s. People should also be careful with such fraudulent challenges. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in> wrote: Dear Astrologers, There is a news in Mumbai Mirror (supplement of Times of India) dated 16th Oct, 09 which attracted me & made me think to put it in the forum for information of all. A rationalist group, "Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti" (known as ANS) has announced a reward of Rs 21 Lakh to any astrologer who can predict correctly result of the 13th Oct, 09 Assembly elections. The participants will have to explain scientifically how they have arrived to that conclusion. There is no restriction on what type of astrology one uses. Only the thing is that the astrology used must be based on planetary positions. Participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. ANS has Rs 30 lakh in SBI A/C No. 606265 & astrologers don't have to worry whether they will really be paid after winning. (This is what given in paper) Name of the group is in Marathi & the meaning is "Committee for removal of blind faith" I am not a member of ANS & strongly believe in astrology. Most probably the ANS group is based in Pune & our group members who are from Pune can get the details of contact numbers etc easily from local nws papers. I request the Pune members to help accordingly. Wish you all very best of luck ! Vishram Deshpande Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Connect more, do more and share more with India Mail. Learn more. Connect more, do more and share more with India Mail. Learn more. India has a new look. Take a sneak peek. Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! India has a new look. Take a sneak peek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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