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October 20, 2009

Dear Rao

Soonafter getting the file i will mail.

one more book on Mundane astrology by Manik chand jain on Mundane astrology i think this will be available very easily as Mundane astrology by alen leo may be out of stock.

in fact i am searching the same in my book self but in vain.

Regards

Sahhasra Saagara

Rao Tammiraju <sreesai_ganesh Sent: Tue, 20 October, 2009 7:03:15 AMRe: Reward Rs 21,000,00/-

Dear Sagarji,

thank u very much for ur prompt and kind reply. I will be eagerly waiting for your successful previous predictions in this regard. kindly send the same at the earliest, at your convenience. I dont know about sun ingress chart. kindly can you guide me in this regard. I will purchase Sir Allen Leos book on mundane astrology shortly. with best regards,

t.r.rao--- On Mon, 19/10/09, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/-@gro ups.comMonday, 19 October, 2009, 11:23 PM

Dear RaoI am having worked papers of some 6/7 polls predictions with me, i will send the same in the earliest possible.Mundane astrology by Alen Leo will help a lot on mundane matters. i too get interested from it and later i fixed Zodiacal affinities to the universe and predict quake and natural calamities.RegardsSahhasra Saagara

Rao Tammiraju <sreesai_ganesh@ .co. in>@gro ups.comMon, 19 October, 2009 7:02:00 AMRe: Reward Rs 21,000,00/-

Dear Sagarji,

I am a silent participant in the group. i am a practicing remedial astrologer stationed at Hyderabad. i read your mail on asthakavarga and it is very interesting. i also follow asthakavarga theory propounded by BV.Raman for getting a general reading on a particular house it is very useful and it is very accurate. .sometimes, for a brief reading i am using asthakavarga only and it is giving accurate results.

your mail is very interesting. Now a days very few astrologer are using asthakavarga theory. I dont know about sungress chart and libra month. can yoou please kindly explain in detail the pattern followed by you in this regard, for which act of kindness i shall be very obliged to you.

with regars and best wishes

T.R.RAO--- On Mon, 19/10/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/-@gro ups.comMonday, 19 October, 2009, 12:10 AM

Dear Sagar ji,

Thanks for your response. Your applications of ashtakvarga is very interesting. My experience with ashtakvarga is not very good and hence I do not use it at all. I tried ashtakvarga many times in the past on natal horoscopes and results were never satisfactory.

Anyways, your email still doesn't answer both of my questions -

1. There are elections in three states. The solar month will remain same. How you will use this method in that case?

2. How you calculated 38 seats for MNS?

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Dear PunitYes, it is unbelievable but it is my experience and success.My first case was 1984 and my prediction was 87.5% favor for thr the ruling party congress and result was 419 seats for the ruling government.in 1985 i had predicted AGP MLA?MP seats with very accurate and i sent the same to Planets and forecast, the editor Mr.Nimai Banerji write me congradulation for the same.Pakistan peoples party victory and farmation of the same was predicted.Slilanka polls was predicted.In the recent i had predicted Manmohan singh will become PM for 2nd term with 272/273 seats , i had predicted it on 5th September 2008 that is 8 months before even before the polls date was announced.Any one can predict with the help of Benefic dots of Jupiter for the perticular month.sun ingress time chart.4th house signifies opposition,10th house signifies Ruling Government.8 benefic dots will be the highest and 8 equals to 100 or

total number of seats.4th house jupiter benefic dots and 10th house jupiter benefic dots to be added and then we have to calculate percentage for the same.for ex:4th house had 6 benefic dots and 10th house had 8 benefic dots = 14 6X288--------14 =hence opp will get 123 seats and Ruling party will get 164 seats.In maharashtra polls Libra month 4th and 10th had 7 benefic dots of Jupiter hence 14 that is 50% for both RP and OPP party.288 seats 50% is 144 seats.so RP anf OPP sill secure 144 seats.I hope i have explained as per my experience.ofcourse now a days i am not keen interenct in doing all these works becoming losing interest in all these.Thanks and regardsSahhasra Saagara

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> @gro ups.comSat, 17 October, 2009 4:53:10 PM Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/-

Dear Sagar ji, They say "one swallow does not make a summer". Not too long, we struggled predicting correct time of marriage. Forum archive can give good hint of general success and failure. In such a situation a claim like "Anything as well as everything can be predictable through astrological calculations" seems too tall a claim to me. Anyways, I have a suggestion to test your rule. Why don't you go and predict results of all three state elections. It will give use at least three test cases and give us some indication of success percentage. The success percentage that you are claiming (20 out of 24 i.e. more than 83%) should be good enough to make it a rule, if proven.

Thanks & Regards,

Punit Pandey

PS: Please do not take it as an attempt to belittle any rule or knowledge. But as an astrologer, the point made as well as success claimed are hard to believe for me.

On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Hi

Anything as well as everything can be predictable through astrological calculations. So many scholors have proved it.

BPHS/Brihit Jatakhakya/other astrological texts has given many points how to analyse in what way.only thing is we have to understand the same and implement with care.

Number of seats for each party can be predict through Benefic dots and percentage of seats.

In the past i have predicted number of seats for ruling party and opposition party in general. I got succeed in 20 cases out of 24 cases.

recently i have predicted (after a very long time) on 5th September 2008 itself that Mr.Manmohan singh will be the PM for 2nd term, 16th May 2009 will be the day of Manmohan singh and Ruling party will get 272/273 seats and will farm the Government.

Counting date was 16th May 2009, total number of seats were 274 when the Ruling party farmed the Government on 22nd May 2009.

http://churumuri. wordpress. com/2007/ 11/12/say- hello-to- the-famous- astrologer- kn-somayaji/

Â· Sahhasra Saagara Says: 5 September 2008 at 12:25 am

Regards

Sahhasra Saagara

Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>

@gro ups.com

Fri, 16 October, 2009 7:52:59 PMFW: Reward Rs 21,000,00/-

Deae Sri Punit Pandeyji,

In my opinion, nothing is impossible in Astrology. In K.P.system itself,

Shri Kanak Bosmia has written an Article in September, 2007 E.Zine,

finding how many sticks are there in a box with the help of RP & horary

No. Even in KP Reader, I remember to have read about how many letters in the bag. Somr Articles also appearen In KP Astrology annual

or monthly on this subject. Canâ€™t we apply this method to find out how

many seats eaxh party will win out of those No.s for wich they contested?

Truly yours,

K.S.V.Ramani

@gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Punit Pandey 16 October 2009 15:42@gro ups.com Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/-

Dear Deshpande ji and Friends,

This email clearly shows ignorance of "Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti." It shows that they are trying to create confusion in public's mind by announcing such an award. Now see the statement. They say "participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. "

Now I wonder where does astrology claim that astrology can predict number of seats won by each major party? There is no rule in any astrology classic whether it is Brihat Jatak, BPHS or KP readers and any other astrology book.

This is like asking medical science to show they can cure AIDS patient otherwise they will assume that medical science is blind-faith.

This is like asking astronomers to show them landing a rocket on Sun otherwise they will assume astronomy and physics as blind-faith.

This is absolutely ridiculous.

Like astronomy / physics / medical science, astrology also has limitations. In fact, every science has limitations and that is the reason science is serviving / researching. What can be predicted by astrology is clearly documented and I wish they have courage to put a challenge based on that. Like other sciences, research is going on in astrology with an attempt to improve our predictive knowledge and like scientists we wish that we will be able to predict winning seat some day. But if astrologers can not predict winning-seats, it should not mean that astrology is blind-faith. To conclude, They should stop fooling the society by throwing such ridiculous challenge s. People should also be careful with such fraudulent challenges.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in> wrote:

Dear Astrologers,

There is a news in Mumbai Mirror (supplement of Times of India) dated 16th Oct, 09 which attracted me & made me think to put it in the forum for information of all.

A rationalist group, "Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti" (known as ANS) has announced a reward of Rs 21 Lakh to any astrologer who can predict correctly result of the 13th Oct, 09 Assembly elections. The participants will have to explain scientifically how they have arrived to that conclusion. There is no restriction on what type of astrology one uses. Only the thing is that the astrology used must be based on planetary positions.

Participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win.

ANS has Rs 30 lakh in SBI A/C No. 606265 & astrologers don't have to worry whether they will really be paid after winning. (This is what given in paper) Name of the group is in Marathi & the meaning is "Committee for removal of blind faith"

I am not a member of ANS & strongly believe in astrology. Most probably the ANS group is based in Pune & our group members who are from Pune can get the details of contact numbers etc easily from local nws papers. I request the Pune members to help accordingly.

Wish you all very best of luck !

Vishram Deshpande

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October 21, 2009

Dear Sagarji,

Today i will send the analysis reg. Sonia Gandhis chart to your e.mail id. and Sri Pandeji"s id. Thank u very much for your interaction.

with regards,

t.r.rao

--- On Tue, 20/10/09, Sagar S <ssagar86 wrote:

Sagar S <ssagar86Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/- Date: Tuesday, 20 October, 2009, 11:52 PM

Dear Mr.Rao

Plz mail me the general events predictions example of Sonia gandhi when u mail the same to Mr. punit .

Regards

Sahhasra Saagara

Rao Tammiraju <sreesai_ganesh@ .co. in>@gro ups.comTue, 20 October, 2009 9:01:23 AMRe: Reward Rs 21,000,00/-

Dear Punitji,

In the day time I am busy with the clients. I will explain with the chart of Smt.Sonia Gandhi, in the evening or night time.

with regards and best wishes,

t.r.rao--- On Mon, 19/10/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/-@gro ups.comMonday, 19 October, 2009, 4:48 PM

Dear Mr. Rao,

Can you please explain with example how you do general reading on a particular house using Ashtakvarga?

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Rao Tammiraju <sreesai_ganesh@ .co. in> wrote:

Dear Sagarji,

I am a silent participant in the group. i am a practicing remedial astrologer stationed at Hyderabad. i read your mail on asthakavarga and it is very interesting. i also follow asthakavarga theory propounded by BV.Raman for getting a general reading on a particular house it is very useful and it is very accurate. .sometimes, for a brief reading i am using asthakavarga only and it is giving accurate results.

your mail is very interesting. Now a days very few astrologer are using asthakavarga theory. I dont know about sungress chart and libra month. can yoou please kindly explain in detail the pattern followed by you in this regard, for which act of kindness i shall be very obliged to you.

with regars and best wishes

T.R.RAO --- On Mon, 19/10/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/-

@gro ups.comMonday, 19 October, 2009, 12:10 AM

Dear Sagar ji,

Thanks for your response. Your applications of ashtakvarga is very interesting. My experience with ashtakvarga is not very good and hence I do not use it at all. I tried ashtakvarga many times in the past on natal horoscopes and results were never satisfactory.

Anyways, your email still doesn't answer both of my questions -

1. There are elections in three states. The solar month will remain same. How you will use this method in that case?

2. How you calculated 38 seats for MNS?

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Dear PunitYes, it is unbelievable but it is my experience and success.My first case was 1984 and my prediction was 87.5% favor for thr the ruling party congress and result was 419 seats for the ruling government.in 1985 i had predicted AGP MLA?MP seats with very accurate and i sent the same to Planets and forecast, the editor Mr.Nimai Banerji write me congradulation for the same.Pakistan peoples party victory and farmation of the same was predicted.Slilanka polls was predicted.In the recent i had predicted Manmohan singh will become PM for 2nd term with 272/273 seats , i had predicted it on 5th September 2008 that is 8 months before even before the polls date was announced.Any one can predict with the help of Benefic dots of Jupiter for the perticular month.sun ingress time chart.4th house signifies opposition,10th house signifies Ruling Government.8 benefic dots will be the highest and 8 equals to 100 or

total number of seats.4th house jupiter benefic dots and 10th house jupiter benefic dots to be added and then we have to calculate percentage for the same.for ex:4th house had 6 benefic dots and 10th house had 8 benefic dots = 14 6X288--------14 =hence opp will get 123 seats and Ruling party will get 164 seats.In maharashtra polls Libra month 4th and 10th had 7 benefic dots of Jupiter hence 14 that is 50% for both RP and OPP party.288 seats 50% is 144 seats.so RP anf OPP sill secure 144 seats.I hope i have explained as per my experience.ofcourse now a days i am not keen interenct in doing all these works becoming losing interest in all these.Thanks and regardsSahhasra Saagara

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

@gro ups.com

Sat, 17 October, 2009 4:53:10 PM Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/-

Dear Sagar ji, They say "one swallow does not make a summer". Not too long, we struggled predicting correct time of marriage. Forum archive can give good hint of general success and failure. In such a situation a claim like "Anything as well as everything can be predictable through astrological calculations" seems too tall a claim to me. Anyways, I have a suggestion to test your rule. Why don't you go and predict results of all three state elections. It will give use at least three test cases and give us some indication of success percentage. The success percentage that you are claiming (20 out of 24 i.e. more than 83%) should be good enough to make it a rule, if proven.

Thanks & Regards,

Punit Pandey

PS: Please do not take it as an attempt to belittle any rule or knowledge. But as an astrologer, the point made as well as success claimed are hard to believe for me.

On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Hi

Anything as well as everything can be predictable through astrological calculations. So many scholors have proved it.

BPHS/Brihit Jatakhakya/other astrological texts has given many points how to analyse in what way.only thing is we have to understand the same and implement with care.

Number of seats for each party can be predict through Benefic dots and percentage of seats.

In the past i have predicted number of seats for ruling party and opposition party in general. I got succeed in 20 cases out of 24 cases.

recently i have predicted (after a very long time) on 5th September 2008 itself that Mr.Manmohan singh will be the PM for 2nd term, 16th May 2009 will be the day of Manmohan singh and Ruling party will get 272/273 seats and will farm the Government.

Counting date was 16th May 2009, total number of seats were 274 when the Ruling party farmed the Government on 22nd May 2009.

http://churumuri. wordpress. com/2007/ 11/12/say- hello-to- the-famous- astrologer- kn-somayaji/

Â· Sahhasra Saagara Says: 5 September 2008 at 12:25 am

Regards

Sahhasra Saagara

Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>

@gro ups.com

Fri, 16 October, 2009 7:52:59 PMFW: Reward Rs 21,000,00/-

Deae Sri Punit Pandeyji,

In my opinion, nothing is impossible in Astrology. In K.P.system itself,

Shri Kanak Bosmia has written an Article in September, 2007 E.Zine,

finding how many sticks are there in a box with the help of RP & horary

No. Even in KP Reader, I remember to have read about how many letters in the bag. Somr Articles also appearen In KP Astrology annual

or monthly on this subject. Canâ€™t we apply this method to find out how

many seats eaxh party will win out of those No.s for wich they contested?

Truly yours,

K.S.V.Ramani

@gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Punit Pandey 16 October 2009 15:42@gro ups.com Re: Reward Rs 21,000,00/-

Dear Deshpande ji and Friends,

This email clearly shows ignorance of "Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti." It shows that they are trying to create confusion in public's mind by announcing such an award. Now see the statement. They say "participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win. "

Now I wonder where does astrology claim that astrology can predict number of seats won by each major party? There is no rule in any astrology classic whether it is Brihat Jatak, BPHS or KP readers and any other astrology book.

This is like asking medical science to show they can cure AIDS patient otherwise they will assume that medical science is blind-faith.

This is like asking astronomers to show them landing a rocket on Sun otherwise they will assume astronomy and physics as blind-faith.

This is absolutely ridiculous.

Like astronomy / physics / medical science, astrology also has limitations. In fact, every science has limitations and that is the reason science is serviving / researching. What can be predicted by astrology is clearly documented and I wish they have courage to put a challenge based on that. Like other sciences, research is going on in astrology with an attempt to improve our predictive knowledge and like scientists we wish that we will be able to predict winning seat some day. But if astrologers can not predict winning-seats, it should not mean that astrology is blind-faith. To conclude, They should stop fooling the society by throwing such ridiculous challenge s. People should also be careful with such fraudulent challenges.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in> wrote:

Dear Astrologers,

There is a news in Mumbai Mirror (supplement of Times of India) dated 16th Oct, 09 which attracted me & made me think to put it in the forum for information of all.

A rationalist group, "Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti" (known as ANS) has announced a reward of Rs 21 Lakh to any astrologer who can predict correctly result of the 13th Oct, 09 Assembly elections. The participants will have to explain scientifically how they have arrived to that conclusion. There is no restriction on what type of astrology one uses. Only the thing is that the astrology used must be based on planetary positions.

Participants will be required to predict how many seats each major party will win.

ANS has Rs 30 lakh in SBI A/C No. 606265 & astrologers don't have to worry whether they will really be paid after winning. (This is what given in paper) Name of the group is in Marathi & the meaning is "Committee for removal of blind faith"

I am not a member of ANS & strongly believe in astrology. Most probably the ANS group is based in Pune & our group members who are from Pune can get the details of contact numbers etc easily from local nws papers. I request the Pune members to help accordingly.

Wish you all very best of luck !

Vishram Deshpande