Guest guest Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Dear G.Singh, What is house cusp lord? Is it bhava sign lord? or bhava sub lord?. In horary we will get all the house cuspal sub lords most correct as the date/time is based on judgment date/time/place only. Hence your last paragraph confuses us much. You may please clarify. Thanks with regards, D.Senthil --- On Sun, 10/25/09, G <hbk1hbk_2100 wrote: G <hbk1hbk_2100 Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich Date: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 6:56 AM I agree with you. But I have seen especially in this group that house cusp lord is given too much importance, and most of the time you could be working with a wrong cusp lord. You can still have house cusp lord wrong even if you are very good at rectifying the birth time. The house cusp lord only tells the yes/no answer, nothing more than that for example the 7th house cusp lord will tell you whether the marriage is promised or not.I am not saying that we should not use house cusp lords but I tend to use them in horary astrology because they are always accurate in horary astrology. But they could be very easily inaccurate in natal chart.RegardsG. Singh @gro ups.com, "TW" <tw853 wrote:>> Dear Friends, > > Without analysing the cuspal sub lord, it is not a proper KP analysis because the cuspal sub lords indicate whether a matter is promised or not. If it is not promised, the DBAS or transit cannot make the matter to happen.> > Regards,> TW> > > @gro ups.com, "G" <hbk1hbk_2100@ > wrote:> >> > Dear Sheetal ji,> > > > I use house cusp lords in my analysis only when I do horary astrology. While analyzing natal chart I do not use house cusps because it is very difficult to get correct house cusps for all 12 houses in a chart. Sometimes the house cusp changes even if the birth time changes by 10 seconds. > > > > Regards> > > > Gurmeet> > > > @gro ups.com, Sheetal <ratnamalag@ > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sir> > > > > > I have got one query. If 2nd sub is in star of planet in 8th house and sub> > > of of planet in 6th then what will be the result?> > > > > > Regards> > > Dr Sheetal> > > .> > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 6:34 PM, G <hbk1hbk_2100@ > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Lajmi ji,> > > >> > > > I have many clients in US who are very wealthy, billionaires. One thing I> > > > have observed again and again in their charts that the lord of 7th and 8th> > > > house was in the constellation of lord of 6th house or 2nd house. This is in> > > > addition to what Lajmi ji has mentioned in his message. The lord of 7th> > > > house represents your opponent and the lord of your 8th house represents> > > > your opponents wealth. When these two lords are in the constellation of your> > > > lord of 6th or 2nd, they will bring gains to the native always, as their> > > > opponents will always loose, because your 6th house is your opponents 12th> > > > house of loss, and your 2nd house is your opponents 8th house.> > > >> > > > Best Wishes> > > >> > > > G. Singh> > > >> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>, Yogesh> > > > Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dears Prem & Sharma,> > > > >                                 First of> > > > all,find out whether the Lagna promises it...or not...> > > > >                                 If the> > > > Lord of the Lagna is of a very strong level,by occupying the> > > > houses,II,III, IX,X.XI & IV, and tenanting the stars of the lords of the> > > > Houses II,X & XI...> > > > >                                Then,check> > > > the status of the lords of the houses X,XI,II,and the IXth,on similar> > > > fashion...> > > > >                                If ALL> > > > these lords' strengths are of a High Level,(pl.also reject the lords of the> > > > appropriate XI,IX, & VII houses - the Badhaka planets - and then apply> > > > this),then alone one can say with supreme confidence that one will get> > > > Name,Fame,and Wealth in abundance... .(there are 4 levels,which have been> > > > described as: the Highest level,the other levels are the Strong,the> > > > Middle,and the Low levels and accordingly one can with certainty determine> > > > the level of wealth,name, fame etc., that one is destined to enjoy as per his> > > > Destiny/Fate. ..in his present life...> > > > >                                The above> > > > is strictly as per K.P.Rules... .and has been extensively tested and found to> > > > be very correct and accurate an assessment.. .> > > > >                               For further> > > > details and the finer points please refer :> > > > >     "Astrosecrets & Krishnamurthi Padhdhati by the late Shri> > > > M.P.Shanmugham. .."> > > > >                              Edited by> > > > Shri K.Subramaniam.> > > > >                               With the> > > > very best wishes,> > > > >                               Yogesh> > > > Lajmi.> > > > >> > > >                                                   Â> > > > GOOD LUCK !> > > > >                           Â> > > > >> > > > > --- On Sat, 10/24/09, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ >> > > >> > > > > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is> > > > rich> > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>> > > > > Saturday, October 24, 2009, 4:14 AM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Â> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Person’s Finance and Fortune through Horoscope> > > >> > > > > http://www.love- match-astrology. com/personalitie s-of-astrology-> > > > signs.html> > > > > Â> > > >> > > > > http://www.psychic- elite.com/ index.php? page=readings_ for_business_> > > > commerce_ and_finance> > > > > Â> > > >> > > > > Thanks> > > > > Pram> > > > >> > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > ~~~ Om Sai Namo Namaha ~~~> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear M Sharma JI> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Good Morning> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > For fast glance of the person you can get it from Reader 6 page 113 topic> > > > Finance and Fortune. Procedure (If the SubLord of the second cusp is> > > > deposited in the star of the planet situated in which sign)> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Thanks> > > > > Pram Chopra> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:48 PM, mssumich <mssumich > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Â> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Respected members> > > > > Do we have tools in KP astrology to ascertain if a person is very> > > > wealthy, extremely wealthy, average, poor etc (financial condition)? In> > > > vedic astrology, one can say that there are dhana yogas and try to find out> > > > if there are multiple dhana yogas etc (I don't think there is any way to> > > > quantify). Trying to find out from learned members..> > > > >> > > > > Please see this chart...> > > > > Nov 19, 1938> > > > > 8:50am> > > > > Cincinatti USA> > > > > Lagna is Scorpio 019-56-51> > > > >> > > > > Thanks> > > > > M.Sharma> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --> > > > > Thanks> > > > > TPC> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --> > > > > Thanks> > > > > TPC> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --> > > > > Thanks> > > > > TPC> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Dear All All the event matches perfectly. thanks........sundar , Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande wrote: > > Dear Sir, > > It is true that I was doubtful about the TOB & that is why I got it rectified by Vijayanand ji. If u see again my post u will find the rectified time. If any body wants to cross check the rectification following are some of the events with dates. > > Marriage 3rd Feb 1985 > Abortion of wife Oct 1985 > First child birth 29th Jan 1987 > Second child birth 22nd Sept 1990 > > Thanks & regards > > Vishram deshpande > > > > > ________________________________ > Luther Rath <rathluther > > Mon, 26 October, 2009 6:30:13 AM > Re: Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich > >  > Dear Sir, > What do you mean exactly by 'Duhsthans'? And how could you relate then to II and XI? Kindly clarify. > With regards. > Dr. Rath > > > > > ________________________________ > Bhuwan Agrawal <bhuwan.agrawal@ > > @gro ups.com > Sun, October 25, 2009 8:47:01 PM > Re: Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich > >  > Traditional vedic astrolgy has very clear cut rule, if dusthan's are invloved or connected to 2nd and 11th then money comes from novel means > > > > > ________________________________ > G <hbk1hbk_2100@ > > @gro ups.com > Sun, 25 October, 2009 4:43:46 PM > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich > >  > Dear Lajmi ji, > > Thanks for your reply. In order for a person to become rich, they have to compete with other people (opponents, competitors, customers in business etc) whether they want to win lottery, start new business, get a new job. So the ascendant lord has to be strong and in a favorable nakshatra but it is very easy to become wealthy if at the same time the 7th lord and 8th lord which represents the competitors, customers and competitors money are also in favorable nakshatras. > > I have seen in my own case money comes to me very easily when I go through 8th lord Venus's Bhukti or Anthara. The traditional vedic astrologers are unable to explain this, how the 8th lord can give large sums of money. > > When I negotiate any contracts I try to do that when the 7th and 8th lord in my chart are transiting favorable nakshatras, and I always win and the opponents always loose. > > Kind Regards > > G. Singh > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Gurmeet, > >                     My reply was to Pram Chopra's specific query... " can we tell if the person is rich...(sic) " , pl. note that there was no reference to " opponent(s) " ... hence no reference was made to opponents wealth... > >                     \ Thanks,in any case, for the valuable information. ..for the benefit of ALL of us Members of this group... > >                     \ With kind regards, > >                    Yogesh Lajmi. > >                     \                     \   GOOD LUCK ! > >                     > >   > >  > >                     > >           > > > > --- On Sun, 10/25/09, G <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > G <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...> > > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich > > @gro ups.com > > Sunday, October 25, 2009, 5:35 AM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > G. Singh > > > > @gro ups.com, Suresh Awasthi <suresh.awasthi@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear G Singh JI, > > > Absolutely correct you are, I am agree with you and keep this point in mind. > > >  > > > Thanks & Regards > > > suresh awasthi > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > G <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...> > > > @gro ups.com > > > Sat, October 24, 2009 6:34:40 PM > > > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich > > > > > >  > > > Dear Lajmi ji, > > > > > > I have many clients in US who are very wealthy, billionaires. One thing I have observed again and again in their charts that the lord of 7th and 8th house was in the constellation of lord of 6th house or 2nd house. This is in addition to what Lajmi ji has mentioned in his message. The lord of 7th house represents your opponent and the lord of your 8th house represents your opponents wealth. When these two lords are in the constellation of your lord of 6th or 2nd, they will bring gains to the native always, as their opponents will always loose, because your 6th house is your opponents 12th house of loss, and your 2nd house is your opponents 8th house. > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dears Prem & Sharma, > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ First of all,find out whether the Lagna promises it...or not... > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ If the Lord of the Lagna is of a very strong level,byÃÆ'‚ occupying the houses,II,III, IX,X.XI & IV, and tenanting the stars of the lords of the Houses II,X & XI... > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ Then,check the status of the lords of the houses X,XI,II,and the IXth,on similar fashion... > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ If ALL these lords' strengthsÃÆ'‚ are of a High Level,(pl.also reject the lords of the appropriate XI,IX, & VII houses - the Badhaka planets - and then apply this),then alone one can say with supreme confidence that one will get Name,Fame,and Wealth in abundance... .(there are 4 levels,which have been described as: the > Highest level,the other levels are the Strong,the Middle,and the Low levels and accordingly one can with certainty determine the level of wealth,name, fame etc., that one is destined to enjoy as per his Destiny/Fate. ..in his present life.... > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ The above is strictly as per K.P.Rules... .and has been extensively tested and found to be very correct and accurate an assessment.. . . > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ For further details and the finer points please refer : > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ " Astrosecrets & Krishnamurthi Padhdhati by the late Shri M.P.Shanmugham. .. " > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ Edited by Shri K.Subramaniam. > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ With the very best wishes, > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ Yogesh Lajmi. > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'â > €šÃ‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'â\ €šÃ‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'â\ €šÃ‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ GOOD LUCK ! > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ \ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/24/09, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ ...> > > > > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Saturday, October 24, 2009, 4:14 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PersonÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢s Finance and Fortune through Horoscope > > > > http://www.love- match-astrology. com/personalitie s-of-astrology- signs.html > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > http://www.psychic- elite.com/ index.php? page=readings_ for_business_ commerce_ and_finance > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Thanks > > > > Pram > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > ~~~ Om Sai Namo Namaha ~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear M Sharma JI > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Morning > > > > > > > > > > > > For fast glance of the person you can get it from Reader 6 page 113 topic Finance and Fortune. Procedure (If the SubLord of the second cusp is deposited in the star of the planet situated in which sign) > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Pram Chopra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:48 PM, mssumich <mssumich > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected members > > > > Do we have tools in KP astrology to ascertain if a person is very wealthy, extremely wealthy, average, poor etc (financial condition)? In vedic astrology, one can say that there are dhana yogas and try to find out if there are multiple dhana yogas etc (I don't think there is any way to quantify).. Trying to find out from learned members.. > > > > > > > > Please see this chart... > > > > Nov 19, 1938 > > > > 8:50am > > > > Cincinatti USA > > > > Lagna is Scorpio 019-56-51 > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > M.Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Thanks > > > > TPC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Thanks > > > > TPC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Thanks > > > > TPC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > http://mail. > > > > > > > ________________________________ > India has a new look. Take a sneak peek. > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > > > http://mail. > > > > Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! http://in./trynew > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Dear Sir, The context was vedic, and relationship with Dusthan( lord of 6,8,12th houses ) for 2nd/11th houses imply income from easy means. I made a mistkae by saying "Novel". Regards Bhuwan Luther Rath <rathluther Sent: Mon, 26 October, 2009 6:30:13 AMRe: Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich Dear Sir, What do you mean exactly by 'Duhsthans'? And how could you relate then to II and XI? Kindly clarify. With regards. Dr. Rath Bhuwan Agrawal <bhuwan.agrawal@ >@gro ups.comSun, October 25, 2009 8:47:01 PMRe: Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich Traditional vedic astrolgy has very clear cut rule, if dusthan's are invloved or connected to 2nd and 11th then money comes from novel means G <hbk1hbk_2100@ >@gro ups.comSun, 25 October, 2009 4:43:46 PM Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich Dear Lajmi ji,Thanks for your reply. In order for a person to become rich, they have to compete with other people (opponents, competitors, customers in business etc) whether they want to win lottery, start new business, get a new job. So the ascendant lord has to be strong and in a favorable nakshatra but it is very easy to become wealthy if at the same time the 7th lord and 8th lord which represents the competitors, customers and competitors money are also in favorable nakshatras. I have seen in my own case money comes to me very easily when I go through 8th lord Venus's Bhukti or Anthara. The traditional vedic astrologers are unable to explain this, how the 8th lord can give large sums of money.When I negotiate any contracts I try to do that when the 7th and 8th lord in my chart are transiting favorable nakshatras, and I always win and the opponents always loose.Kind RegardsG. Singh @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Gurmeet,>                     My reply was to Pram Chopra's specific query..."can we tell if the person is rich...(sic) " , pl. note that there was no reference to "opponent(s) "... hence no reference was made to opponents wealth...>                     Thanks,in any case, for the valuable information. ..for the benefit of ALL of us Members of this group...>                     With kind regards,>                    Yogesh Lajmi.>                                           GOOD LUCK !>                     >   >  >                     >           > > --- On Sun, 10/25/09, G <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...> wrote:> > > G <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...>> Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich> @gro ups.com> Sunday, October 25, 2009, 5:35 AM> > >  > > > > Thank you.> > G. Singh> > @gro ups.com, Suresh Awasthi <suresh.awasthi@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear G Singh JI,> > Absolutely correct you are, I am agree with you and keep this point in mind.> >  > > Thanks & Regards> > suresh awasthi> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > G <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...>> > @gro ups.com> > Sat, October 24, 2009 6:34:40 PM> > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich> > > >  > > Dear Lajmi ji,> > > > I have many clients in US who are very wealthy, billionaires. One thing I have observed again and again in their charts that the lord of 7th and 8th house was in the constellation of lord of 6th house or 2nd house. This is in addition to what Lajmi ji has mentioned in his message. The lord of 7th house represents your opponent and the lord of your 8th house represents your opponents wealth. When these two lords are in the constellation of your lord of 6th or 2nd, they will bring gains to the native always, as their opponents will always loose, because your 6th house is your opponents 12th house of loss, and your 2nd house is your opponents 8th house.> > > > Best Wishes> > > > G. Singh> > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dears Prem & Sharma,> > >                                 First of all,find out whether the Lagna promises it...or not...> > >                                 If the Lord of the Lagna is of a very strong level,by occupying the houses,II,III, IX,X.XI & IV, and tenanting the stars of the lords of the Houses II,X & XI...> > >                                Then,check the status of the lords of the houses X,XI,II,and the IXth,on similar fashion...> > >                                If ALL these lords' strengths are of a High Level,(pl.also reject the lords of the appropriate XI,IX, & VII houses - the Badhaka planets - and then apply this),then alone one can say with supreme confidence that one will get Name,Fame,and Wealth in abundance... .(there are 4 levels,which have been described as: the Highest level,the other levels are the Strong,the Middle,and the Low levels and accordingly one can with certainty determine the level of wealth,name, fame etc., that one is destined to enjoy as per his Destiny/Fate. ..in his present life....> > >                                The above is strictly as per K.P.Rules... .and has been extensively tested and found to be very correct and accurate an assessment.. . .> > >                               For further details and the finer points please refer :> > >     "Astrosecrets & Krishnamurthi Padhdhati by the late Shri M.P.Shanmugham. .."> > >                              Edited by Shri K.Subramaniam.> > >                               With the very best wishes,> > >                               Yogesh Lajmi.> > >                                         Ã⠀šÃ‚ Ã‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â GOOD LUCK !> > >                            > > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/24/09, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ ...>> > > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich> > > @gro ups.com> > > Saturday, October 24, 2009, 4:14 AM> > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Person’s Finance and Fortune through Horoscope> > > http://www.love- match-astrology. com/personalitie s-of-astrology- signs.html> > >  > > > http://www.psychic- elite.com/ index.php? page=readings_ for_business_ commerce_ and_finance> > >  > > > Thanks> > > Pram> > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > > > > ~~~ Om Sai Namo Namaha ~~~> > > > > > > > > Dear M Sharma JI> > > > > > > > > Good Morning> > > > > > > > > For fast glance of the person you can get it from Reader 6 page 113 topic Finance and Fortune. Procedure (If the SubLord of the second cusp is deposited in the star of the planet situated in which sign)> > > > > > > > > Thanks> > > Pram Chopra> > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:48 PM, mssumich <mssumich > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected members> > > Do we have tools in KP astrology to ascertain if a person is very wealthy, extremely wealthy, average, poor etc (financial condition)? In vedic astrology, one can say that there are dhana yogas and try to find out if there are multiple dhana yogas etc (I don't think there is any way to quantify).. Trying to find out from learned members..> > > > > > Please see this chart...> > > Nov 19, 1938> > > 8:50am> > > Cincinatti USA > > > Lagna is Scorpio 019-56-51> > > > > > Thanks> > > M.Sharma> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Thanks> > > TPC> > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Thanks> > > TPC> > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Thanks> > > TPC> > >> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > http://mail. > >> India has a new look. Take a sneak peek. ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ http://mail. From cricket scores to your friends. Try the India Homepage! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 I am not saying that you guys are wrong. But the house cusp sub lords for all 12 house are very rarely correct in a natal chart. But in Horary astrology they are always accurate. Do you want to work with incorrect house cusp sub lords and give wrong predictions to people. In my case I am still not sure whether my 12th house cusp is saturn or jupiter after lajmi ji and I have spend so much time to rectify my birth time. G. Singh , Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote: > > Mr G Singh > > I think you are talking about traditional vedic astrology and sign lord. But > in Kp is about cuspal sublord so it is given importance in this group. Do u > want to say cuspal sublord and u r writting cusp lord? I am really confused > what u write. In kp, cuspal sublord has much more imporatnce than saying yes > or no. eg As it can be the significator of the same cusp too, if it is > strong means no planets in its star Anyways, if u give ur method how u reach > the conclusion, it will be practically usefull for all. > > Regards > Dr Sheetal > > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 7:26 PM, G <hbk1hbk_2100 wrote: > > > > > > > I agree with you. But I have seen especially in this group that house cusp > > lord is given too much importance, and most of the time you could be working > > with a wrong cusp lord. You can still have house cusp lord wrong even if you > > are very good at rectifying the birth time. The house cusp lord only tells > > the yes/no answer, nothing more than that for example the 7th house cusp > > lord will tell you whether the marriage is promised or not. > > > > I am not saying that we should not use house cusp lords but I tend to use > > them in horary astrology because they are always accurate in horary > > astrology. But they could be very easily inaccurate in natal chart. > > > > Regards > > > > G. Singh > > > > <%40>, " TW " > > <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > Without analysing the cuspal sub lord, it is not a proper KP analysis > > because the cuspal sub lords indicate whether a matter is promised or not. > > If it is not promised, the DBAS or transit cannot make the matter to happen. > > > > > > Regards, > > > TW > > > > > > > > > <%40>, " G " > > <hbk1hbk_2100@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sheetal ji, > > > > > > > > I use house cusp lords in my analysis only when I do horary astrology. > > While analyzing natal chart I do not use house cusps because it is very > > difficult to get correct house cusps for all 12 houses in a chart. Sometimes > > the house cusp changes even if the birth time changes by 10 seconds. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Gurmeet > > > > > > > > <%40>, > > Sheetal <ratnamalag@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir > > > > > > > > > > I have got one query. If 2nd sub is in star of planet in 8th house > > and sub > > > > > of of planet in 6th then what will be the result? > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Dr Sheetal > > > > > . > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 6:34 PM, G <hbk1hbk_2100@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lajmi ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have many clients in US who are very wealthy, billionaires. One > > thing I > > > > > > have observed again and again in their charts that the lord of 7th > > and 8th > > > > > > house was in the constellation of lord of 6th house or 2nd house. > > This is in > > > > > > addition to what Lajmi ji has mentioned in his message. The lord of > > 7th > > > > > > house represents your opponent and the lord of your 8th house > > represents > > > > > > your opponents wealth. When these two lords are in the > > constellation of your > > > > > > lord of 6th or 2nd, they will bring gains to the native always, as > > their > > > > > > opponents will always loose, because your 6th house is your > > opponents 12th > > > > > > house of loss, and your 2nd house is your opponents 8th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40><% > > 40>, Yogesh > > > > > > Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dears Prem & Sharma, > > > > > > >                                 > > First of > > > > > > all,find out whether the Lagna promises it...or not... > > > > > > >                                 > > If the > > > > > > Lord of the Lagna is of a very strong level,by occupying the > > > > > > houses,II,III,IX,X.XI & IV, and tenanting the stars of the lords of > > the > > > > > > Houses II,X & XI... > > > > > > >                                > > Then,check > > > > > > the status of the lords of the houses X,XI,II,and the IXth,on > > similar > > > > > > fashion... > > > > > > >                                If > > ALL > > > > > > these lords' strengths are of a High Level,(pl.also reject the > > lords of the > > > > > > appropriate XI,IX, & VII houses - the Badhaka planets - and then > > apply > > > > > > this),then alone one can say with supreme confidence that one will > > get > > > > > > Name,Fame,and Wealth in abundance....(there are 4 levels,which have > > been > > > > > > described as: the Highest level,the other levels are the Strong,the > > > > > > Middle,and the Low levels and accordingly one can with certainty > > determine > > > > > > the level of wealth,name,fame etc., that one is destined to enjoy > > as per his > > > > > > Destiny/Fate...in his present life... > > > > > > >                                The > > above > > > > > > is strictly as per K.P.Rules....and has been extensively tested and > > found to > > > > > > be very correct and accurate an assessment... > > > > > > >                               For > > further > > > > > > details and the finer points please refer : > > > > > > >     " Astrosecrets & Krishnamurthi Padhdhati by the late Shri > > > > > > M.P.Shanmugham... " > > > > > > >                              Edited > > by > > > > > > Shri K.Subramaniam. > > > > > > >                               With > > the > > > > > > very best wishes, > > > > > > >                               > > Yogesh > > > > > > Lajmi. > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                   > >                  > > > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > >                            > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/24/09, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the > > person is > > > > > > rich > > > > > > > <%40><% > > 40> > > > > > > > Saturday, October 24, 2009, 4:14 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Person’s Finance and Fortune through Horoscope > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.love- match-astrology. com/personalitie > > s-of-astrology- > > > > > > signs.html > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.psychic- elite.com/ index.php? page=readings_ > > for_business_ > > > > > > commerce_ and_finance > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > Pram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > > gmail.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > > gmail.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~ Om Sai Namo Namaha ~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear M Sharma JI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For fast glance of the person you can get it from Reader 6 page > > 113 topic > > > > > > Finance and Fortune. Procedure (If the SubLord of the second cusp > > is > > > > > > deposited in the star of the planet situated in which sign) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > Pram Chopra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:48 PM, mssumich <mssumich > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected members > > > > > > > Do we have tools in KP astrology to ascertain if a person is very > > > > > > wealthy, extremely wealthy, average, poor etc (financial > > condition)? In > > > > > > vedic astrology, one can say that there are dhana yogas and try to > > find out > > > > > > if there are multiple dhana yogas etc (I don't think there is any > > way to > > > > > > quantify). Trying to find out from learned members.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please see this chart... > > > > > > > Nov 19, 1938 > > > > > > > 8:50am > > > > > > > Cincinatti USA > > > > > > > Lagna is Scorpio 019-56-51 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > M.Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > TPC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > TPC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > TPC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Thank you Gurmeet , Senthil <athi_ram wrote: > > Dear G.Singh, >  > Well done. Continue your research and I wish you all success for your prediction. You may also post your new findings for our study and use. >  > GOOD LUCK! >  > Regards, >  > D.Senthil > > > --- On Sun, 10/25/09, G <hbk1hbk_2100 wrote: > > > G <hbk1hbk_2100 > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich > > Sunday, October 25, 2009, 6:43 AM > > >  > > > > Dear TW, > > I am sorry to say that I can not do that as I have signed a formal confidentiality agreement with them. These are the people who consult me on weekly basis. I have one Billionaire who had a team of astrologers, numerlogists, psychics, tarot card readers working for him. When he consulted me first time he did not tell me that he is a Billionaire. I analysed his chart and told him that he is very lucky and a very wealthy man. He used to consult me on regular basis. After working with me for 5 months he menioned to me that out of all astrologers, psychics, tarot card readers, numerlogists my analysis is the most accurate, and now he does not consult other astrologers, psychics, tarot card readers, numerlogists. > > This rule is not in KP books. I have done my own research. I was able to learn KP and do research very fast after I entered Jupiter Mahadasha. My astrology business is doing very well after I entered Mercury Bhukti. Both Jupiter and Mercury are in 2nd and 9th lord Mars constellation and as you know 9th house represents astrology and change in career. > > Regards > > G. Singh > > @gro ups.com, " TW " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > Dear G. Singh, > > > > Would appreciate if you can kindly post some birth details of the said billionaires (without name and POB for secrecy of astrologer-consulta nt relation) to study and learn by the KP rules practically for all of us other than here say. Because such kind of rule is really very interesting indeed since not found in KP or Vedic. > > > > Thanks and regards, > > TW > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Punit Pandey <punitp@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Gurmeet ji, > > > > > > Interesting observation. Thanks for sharing. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 6:34 PM, G <hbk1hbk_2100@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lajmi ji, > > > > > > > > I have many clients in US who are very wealthy, billionaires. One thing I > > > > have observed again and again in their charts that the lord of 7th and 8th > > > > house was in the constellation of lord of 6th house or 2nd house. This is in > > > > addition to what Lajmi ji has mentioned in his message. The lord of 7th > > > > house represents your opponent and the lord of your 8th house represents > > > > your opponents wealth. When these two lords are in the constellation of your > > > > lord of 6th or 2nd, they will bring gains to the native always, as their > > > > opponents will always loose, because your 6th house is your opponents 12th > > > > house of loss, and your 2nd house is your opponents 8th house. > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>, Yogesh > > > > Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dears Prem & Sharma, > > > > >                                 First of > > > > all,find out whether the Lagna promises it...or not... > > > > >                                 If the > > > > Lord of the Lagna is of a very strong level,by occupying the > > > > houses,II,III, IX,X.XI & IV, and tenanting the stars of the lords of the > > > > Houses II,X & XI... > > > > >                                Then,check > > > > the status of the lords of the houses X,XI,II,and the IXth,on similar > > > > fashion... > > > > >                                If ALL > > > > these lords' strengths are of a High Level,(pl.also reject the lords of the > > > > appropriate XI,IX, & VII houses - the Badhaka planets - and then apply > > > > this),then alone one can say with supreme confidence that one will get > > > > Name,Fame,and Wealth in abundance... .(there are 4 levels,which have been > > > > described as: the Highest level,the other levels are the Strong,the > > > > Middle,and the Low levels and accordingly one can with certainty determine > > > > the level of wealth,name, fame etc., that one is destined to enjoy as per his > > > > Destiny/Fate. ..in his present life... > > > > >                                The above > > > > is strictly as per K.P.Rules... .and has been extensively tested and found to > > > > be very correct and accurate an assessment.. . > > > > >                               For further > > > > details and the finer points please refer : > > > > >     " Astrosecrets & Krishnamurthi Padhdhati by the late Shri > > > > M.P.Shanmugham. .. " > > > > >                              Edited by > > > > Shri K.Subramaniam. > > > > >                               With the > > > > very best wishes, > > > > >                               Yogesh > > > > Lajmi. > > > > > > > > >                                                    > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > >                            > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/24/09, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > > > > > > > > > > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is > > > > rich > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> > > > > > Saturday, October 24, 2009, 4:14 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Person’s Finance and Fortune through Horoscope > > > > > > > > > http://www.love- match-astrology. com/personalitie s-of-astrology- > > > > signs.html > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > http://www.psychic- elite.com/ index.php? page=readings_ for_business_ > > > > commerce_ and_finance > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Pram > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ~~~ Om Sai Namo Namaha ~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear M Sharma JI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For fast glance of the person you can get it from Reader 6 page 113 topic > > > > Finance and Fortune. Procedure (If the SubLord of the second cusp is > > > > deposited in the star of the planet situated in which sign) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Pram Chopra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:48 PM, mssumich <mssumich > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected members > > > > > Do we have tools in KP astrology to ascertain if a person is very > > > > wealthy, extremely wealthy, average, poor etc (financial condition)? In > > > > vedic astrology, one can say that there are dhana yogas and try to find out > > > > if there are multiple dhana yogas etc (I don't think there is any way to > > > > quantify). Trying to find out from learned members.. > > > > > > > > > > Please see this chart... > > > > > Nov 19, 1938 > > > > > 8:50am > > > > > Cincinatti USA > > > > > Lagna is Scorpio 019-56-51 > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > M.Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Thanks > > > > > TPC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Thanks > > > > > TPC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Thanks > > > > > TPC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 I am talking about Bhava sub lord. G. Singh , Senthil <athi_ram wrote: > > Dear G.Singh, >  > What is house cusp lord? Is it bhava sign lord? or bhava sub lord?. In horary we will get all the house cuspal sub lords most correct as the date/time is based on judgment date/time/place only. Hence your last paragraph confuses us much. You may please clarify. >  > Thanks with regards, >  > D.Senthil >  > > > --- On Sun, 10/25/09, G <hbk1hbk_2100 wrote: > > > G <hbk1hbk_2100 > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich > > Sunday, October 25, 2009, 6:56 AM > > >  > > > > I agree with you. But I have seen especially in this group that house cusp lord is given too much importance, and most of the time you could be working with a wrong cusp lord. You can still have house cusp lord wrong even if you are very good at rectifying the birth time. The house cusp lord only tells the yes/no answer, nothing more than that for example the 7th house cusp lord will tell you whether the marriage is promised or not. > > I am not saying that we should not use house cusp lords but I tend to use them in horary astrology because they are always accurate in horary astrology. But they could be very easily inaccurate in natal chart. > > Regards > > G. Singh > > @gro ups.com, " TW " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > Without analysing the cuspal sub lord, it is not a proper KP analysis because the cuspal sub lords indicate whether a matter is promised or not. If it is not promised, the DBAS or transit cannot make the matter to happen. > > > > Regards, > > TW > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " G " <hbk1hbk_2100@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sheetal ji, > > > > > > I use house cusp lords in my analysis only when I do horary astrology. While analyzing natal chart I do not use house cusps because it is very difficult to get correct house cusps for all 12 houses in a chart. Sometimes the house cusp changes even if the birth time changes by 10 seconds. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Gurmeet > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Sheetal <ratnamalag@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sir > > > > > > > > I have got one query. If 2nd sub is in star of planet in 8th house and sub > > > > of of planet in 6th then what will be the result? > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Dr Sheetal > > > > . > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 6:34 PM, G <hbk1hbk_2100@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lajmi ji, > > > > > > > > > > I have many clients in US who are very wealthy, billionaires. One thing I > > > > > have observed again and again in their charts that the lord of 7th and 8th > > > > > house was in the constellation of lord of 6th house or 2nd house. This is in > > > > > addition to what Lajmi ji has mentioned in his message. The lord of 7th > > > > > house represents your opponent and the lord of your 8th house represents > > > > > your opponents wealth. When these two lords are in the constellation of your > > > > > lord of 6th or 2nd, they will bring gains to the native always, as their > > > > > opponents will always loose, because your 6th house is your opponents 12th > > > > > house of loss, and your 2nd house is your opponents 8th house. > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>, Yogesh > > > > > Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dears Prem & Sharma, > > > > > >                                 First of > > > > > all,find out whether the Lagna promises it...or not... > > > > > >                                 If the > > > > > Lord of the Lagna is of a very strong level,by occupying the > > > > > houses,II,III, IX,X.XI & IV, and tenanting the stars of the lords of the > > > > > Houses II,X & XI... > > > > > >                                Then,check > > > > > the status of the lords of the houses X,XI,II,and the IXth,on similar > > > > > fashion... > > > > > >                                If ALL > > > > > these lords' strengths are of a High Level,(pl.also reject the lords of the > > > > > appropriate XI,IX, & VII houses - the Badhaka planets - and then apply > > > > > this),then alone one can say with supreme confidence that one will get > > > > > Name,Fame,and Wealth in abundance... .(there are 4 levels,which have been > > > > > described as: the Highest level,the other levels are the Strong,the > > > > > Middle,and the Low levels and accordingly one can with certainty determine > > > > > the level of wealth,name, fame etc., that one is destined to enjoy as per his > > > > > Destiny/Fate. ..in his present life... > > > > > >                                The above > > > > > is strictly as per K.P.Rules... .and has been extensively tested and found to > > > > > be very correct and accurate an assessment.. . > > > > > >                               For further > > > > > details and the finer points please refer : > > > > > >     " Astrosecrets & Krishnamurthi Padhdhati by the late Shri > > > > > M.P.Shanmugham. .. " > > > > > >                              Edited by > > > > > Shri K.Subramaniam. > > > > > >                               With the > > > > > very best wishes, > > > > > >                               Yogesh > > > > > Lajmi. > > > > > > > > > > >                                                    > > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > >                            > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/24/09, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is > > > > > rich > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> > > > > > > Saturday, October 24, 2009, 4:14 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Person’s Finance and Fortune through Horoscope > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.love- match-astrology. com/personalitie s-of-astrology- > > > > > signs.html > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.psychic- elite.com/ index.php? page=readings_ for_business_ > > > > > commerce_ and_finance > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Pram > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~ Om Sai Namo Namaha ~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear M Sharma JI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For fast glance of the person you can get it from Reader 6 page 113 topic > > > > > Finance and Fortune. Procedure (If the SubLord of the second cusp is > > > > > deposited in the star of the planet situated in which sign) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Pram Chopra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:48 PM, mssumich <mssumich > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected members > > > > > > Do we have tools in KP astrology to ascertain if a person is very > > > > > wealthy, extremely wealthy, average, poor etc (financial condition)? In > > > > > vedic astrology, one can say that there are dhana yogas and try to find out > > > > > if there are multiple dhana yogas etc (I don't think there is any way to > > > > > quantify). Trying to find out from learned members.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please see this chart... > > > > > > Nov 19, 1938 > > > > > > 8:50am > > > > > > Cincinatti USA > > > > > > Lagna is Scorpio 019-56-51 > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > M.Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > TPC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > TPC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > TPC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Thanks Bhuwanji. Dr. Rath Bhuwan Agrawal <bhuwan.agrawal Sent: Mon, October 26, 2009 10:34:38 PMRe: Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich Dear Sir, The context was vedic, and relationship with Dusthan( lord of 6,8,12th houses ) for 2nd/11th houses imply income from easy means. I made a mistkae by saying "Novel". Regards Bhuwan Luther Rath <rathluther >@gro ups.comMon, 26 October, 2009 6:30:13 AMRe: Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich Dear Sir, What do you mean exactly by 'Duhsthans'? And how could you relate then to II and XI? Kindly clarify. With regards. Dr. Rath Bhuwan Agrawal <bhuwan.agrawal@ >@gro ups.comSun, October 25, 2009 8:47:01 PMRe: Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich Traditional vedic astrolgy has very clear cut rule, if dusthan's are invloved or connected to 2nd and 11th then money comes from novel means G <hbk1hbk_2100@ >@gro ups.comSun, 25 October, 2009 4:43:46 PM Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich Dear Lajmi ji,Thanks for your reply. In order for a person to become rich, they have to compete with other people (opponents, competitors, customers in business etc) whether they want to win lottery, start new business, get a new job. So the ascendant lord has to be strong and in a favorable nakshatra but it is very easy to become wealthy if at the same time the 7th lord and 8th lord which represents the competitors, customers and competitors money are also in favorable nakshatras. I have seen in my own case money comes to me very easily when I go through 8th lord Venus's Bhukti or Anthara. The traditional vedic astrologers are unable to explain this, how the 8th lord can give large sums of money.When I negotiate any contracts I try to do that when the 7th and 8th lord in my chart are transiting favorable nakshatras, and I always win and the opponents always loose.Kind RegardsG. Singh @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Gurmeet,>                     My reply was to Pram Chopra's specific query..."can we tell if the person is rich...(sic) " , pl. note that there was no reference to "opponent(s) "... hence no reference was made to opponents wealth...>                     Thanks,in any case, for the valuable information. ..for the benefit of ALL of us Members of this group...>                     With kind regards,>                    Yogesh Lajmi.>                                           GOOD LUCK !>                     >   >  >                     >           > > --- On Sun, 10/25/09, G <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...> wrote:> > > G <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...>> Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich> @gro ups.com> Sunday, October 25, 2009, 5:35 AM> > >  > > > > Thank you.> > G. Singh> > @gro ups.com, Suresh Awasthi <suresh.awasthi@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear G Singh JI,> > Absolutely correct you are, I am agree with you and keep this point in mind.> >  > > Thanks & Regards> > suresh awasthi> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > G <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...>> > @gro ups.com> > Sat, October 24, 2009 6:34:40 PM> > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich> > > >  > > Dear Lajmi ji,> > > > I have many clients in US who are very wealthy, billionaires. One thing I have observed again and again in their charts that the lord of 7th and 8th house was in the constellation of lord of 6th house or 2nd house. This is in addition to what Lajmi ji has mentioned in his message. The lord of 7th house represents your opponent and the lord of your 8th house represents your opponents wealth. When these two lords are in the constellation of your lord of 6th or 2nd, they will bring gains to the native always, as their opponents will always loose, because your 6th house is your opponents 12th house of loss, and your 2nd house is your opponents 8th house.> > > > Best Wishes> > > > G. Singh> > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dears Prem & Sharma,> > >                                 First of all,find out whether the Lagna promises it...or not...> > >                                 If the Lord of the Lagna is of a very strong level,by occupying the houses,II,III, IX,X.XI & IV, and tenanting the stars of the lords of the Houses II,X & XI...> > >                                Then,check the status of the lords of the houses X,XI,II,and the IXth,on similar fashion...> > >                                If ALL these lords' strengths are of a High Level,(pl.also reject the lords of the appropriate XI,IX, & VII houses - the Badhaka planets - and then apply this),then alone one can say with supreme confidence that one will get Name,Fame,and Wealth in abundance... .(there are 4 levels,which have been described as: the Highest level,the other levels are the Strong,the Middle,and the Low levels and accordingly one can with certainty determine the level of wealth,name, fame etc., that one is destined to enjoy as per his Destiny/Fate. ..in his present life....> > >                                The above is strictly as per K.P.Rules... .and has been extensively tested and found to be very correct and accurate an assessment.. . .> > >                               For further details and the finer points please refer :> > >     "Astrosecrets & Krishnamurthi Padhdhati by the late Shri M.P.Shanmugham. .."> > >                              Edited by Shri K.Subramaniam.> > >                               With the very best wishes,> > >                               Yogesh Lajmi.> > >                                         Ã⠀šÃ‚ Ã‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â GOOD LUCK !> > >                            > > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/24/09, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ ...>> > > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich> > > @gro ups.com> > > Saturday, October 24, 2009, 4:14 AM> > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Person’s Finance and Fortune through Horoscope> > > http://www.love- match-astrology. com/personalitie s-of-astrology- signs.html> > >  > > > http://www.psychic- elite.com/ index.php? page=readings_ for_business_ commerce_ and_finance> > >  > > > Thanks> > > Pram> > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > > > > ~~~ Om Sai Namo Namaha ~~~> > > > > > > > > Dear M Sharma JI> > > > > > > > > Good Morning> > > > > > > > > For fast glance of the person you can get it from Reader 6 page 113 topic Finance and Fortune. Procedure (If the SubLord of the second cusp is deposited in the star of the planet situated in which sign)> > > > > > > > > Thanks> > > Pram Chopra> > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:48 PM, mssumich <mssumich > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected members> > > Do we have tools in KP astrology to ascertain if a person is very wealthy, extremely wealthy, average, poor etc (financial condition)? In vedic astrology, one can say that there are dhana yogas and try to find out if there are multiple dhana yogas etc (I don't think there is any way to quantify).. Trying to find out from learned members..> > > > > > Please see this chart...> > > Nov 19, 1938> > > 8:50am> > > Cincinatti USA > > > Lagna is Scorpio 019-56-51> > > > > > Thanks> > > M.Sharma> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Thanks> > > TPC> > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Thanks> > > TPC> > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Thanks> > > TPC> > >> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > http://mail. > >> India has a new look. Take a sneak peek. ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ http://mail. From cricket scores to your friends. Try the India Homepage! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Dear Gurmeet, I have not mentioned the VIIIth because it can mean gain from,opponent/partner/wife/contractee/person with whom agreement is signed,litigant/mother's property influence and honour in foreign countries,international trade ...and so on... In your case it turned out to be as you have mentioned,that is your good Fortune...or luck,the s/l of the XIIth must indicate it your exceptional luck ! Any ways your analysis is truly of a very high order...and reflects your deep study of K.P. Very well done ! Yogesh Lajmi.--- On Mon, 10/26/09, Senthil <athi_ram wrote: Senthil <athi_ramRe: Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 10:53 AM Dear G.Singh, Well done. Continue your research and I wish you all success for your prediction. You may also post your new findings for our study and use. GOOD LUCK! Regards, D.Senthil --- On Sun, 10/25/09, G <hbk1hbk_2100@ > wrote: G <hbk1hbk_2100@ > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich@gro ups.comSunday, October 25, 2009, 6:43 AM Dear TW,I am sorry to say that I can not do that as I have signed a formal confidentiality agreement with them. These are the people who consult me on weekly basis. I have one Billionaire who had a team of astrologers, numerlogists, psychics, tarot card readers working for him. When he consulted me first time he did not tell me that he is a Billionaire. I analysed his chart and told him that he is very lucky and a very wealthy man. He used to consult me on regular basis. After working with me for 5 months he menioned to me that out of all astrologers, psychics, tarot card readers, numerlogists my analysis is the most accurate, and now he does not consult other astrologers, psychics, tarot card readers, numerlogists.This rule is not in KP books. I have done my own research. I was able to learn KP and do research very fast after I entered Jupiter Mahadasha. My astrology business is doing very well after I entered Mercury Bhukti. Both Jupiter and Mercury are in 2nd and 9th lord Mars constellation and as you know 9th house represents astrology and change in career.RegardsG. Singh@gro ups.com, "TW" <tw853 wrote:>> Dear G. Singh,> > Would appreciate if you can kindly post some birth details of the said billionaires (without name and POB for secrecy of astrologer-consulta nt relation) to study and learn by the KP rules practically for all of us other than here say. Because such kind of rule is really very interesting indeed since not found in KP or Vedic.> > Thanks and regards,> TW> > > > @gro ups.com, Punit Pandey <punitp@> wrote:> >> > Dear Gurmeet ji,> > > > Interesting observation. Thanks for sharing.> > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > Punit Pandey> > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 6:34 PM, G <hbk1hbk_2100@ > wrote:> > > > >> > >> > > Dear Lajmi ji,> > >> > > I have many clients in US who are very wealthy, billionaires. One thing I> > > have observed again and again in their charts that the lord of 7th and 8th> > > house was in the constellation of lord of 6th house or 2nd house. This is in> > > addition to what Lajmi ji has mentioned in his message. The lord of 7th> > > house represents your opponent and the lord of your 8th house represents> > > your opponents wealth. When these two lords are in the constellation of your> > > lord of 6th or 2nd, they will bring gains to the native always, as their> > > opponents will always loose, because your 6th house is your opponents 12th> > > house of loss, and your 2nd house is your opponents 8th house.> > >> > > Best Wishes> > >> > > G. Singh> > >> > >> > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>, Yogesh> > > Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dears Prem & Sharma,> > > >                                 First of> > > all,find out whether the Lagna promises it...or not...> > > >                                 If the> > > Lord of the Lagna is of a very strong level,by occupying the> > > houses,II,III, IX,X.XI & IV, and tenanting the stars of the lords of the> > > Houses II,X & XI...> > > >                                Then,check> > > the status of the lords of the houses X,XI,II,and the IXth,on similar> > > fashion...> > > >                                If ALL> > > these lords' strengths are of a High Level,(pl.also reject the lords of the> > > appropriate XI,IX, & VII houses - the Badhaka planets - and then apply> > > this),then alone one can say with supreme confidence that one will get> > > Name,Fame,and Wealth in abundance... .(there are 4 levels,which have been> > > described as: the Highest level,the other levels are the Strong,the> > > Middle,and the Low levels and accordingly one can with certainty determine> > > the level of wealth,name, fame etc., that one is destined to enjoy as per his> > > Destiny/Fate. ..in his present life....> > > >                                The above> > > is strictly as per K.P.Rules... .and has been extensively tested and found to> > > be very correct and accurate an assessment.. .> > > >                               For further> > > details and the finer points please refer :> > > >     "Astrosecrets & Krishnamurthi Padhdhati by the late Shri> > > M.P.Shanmugham. .."> > > >                              Edited by> > > Shri K.Subramaniam.> > > >                               With the> > > very best wishes,> > > >                               Yogesh> > > Lajmi.> > > >> > >                                                   Â> > > GOOD LUCK !> > > >                           Â> > > >> > > > --- On Sat, 10/24/09, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ >> > >> > > > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is> > > rich> > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>> > > > Saturday, October 24, 2009, 4:14 AM> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Person’s Finance and Fortune through Horoscope> > >> > > > http://www.love- match-astrology. com/personalitie s-of-astrology-> > > signs.html> > > > Â> > >> > > > http://www.psychic- elite.com/ index.php? page=readings_ for_business_> > > commerce_ and_finance> > > > Â> > >> > > > Thanks> > > > Pram> > > >> > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > ~~~ Om Sai Namo Namaha ~~~> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear M Sharma JI> > > >> > > >> > > > Good Morning> > > >> > > >> > > > For fast glance of the person you can get it from Reader 6 page 113 topic> > > Finance and Fortune. Procedure (If the SubLord of the second cusp is> > > deposited in the star of the planet situated in which sign)> > > >> > > >> > > > Thanks> > > > Pram Chopra> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:48 PM, mssumich <mssumich > wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Respected members> > > > Do we have tools in KP astrology to ascertain if a person is very> > > wealthy, extremely wealthy, average, poor etc (financial condition)? In> > > vedic astrology, one can say that there are dhana yogas and try to find out> > > if there are multiple dhana yogas etc (I don't think there is any way to> > > quantify). Trying to find out from learned members..> > > >> > > > Please see this chart...> > > > Nov 19, 1938> > > > 8:50am> > > > Cincinatti USA> > > > Lagna is Scorpio 019-56-51> > > >> > > > Thanks> > > > M.Sharma> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > --> > > > Thanks> > > > TPC> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > --> > > > Thanks> > > > TPC> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > --> > > > Thanks> > > > TPC> > > >> > >> > > > > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Dear G, in your experience how then do you proceed if you suspect the TOb may not be correct. i understand that in horarary, there is no problem. but for natal chart are you saying you just use traditional astrology alone? santhosh G <hbk1hbk_2100 Sent: Tue, 27 October, 2009 3:52:43 AM Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich I am not saying that you guys are wrong. But the house cusp sub lords for all 12 house are very rarely correct in a natal chart. But in Horary astrology they are always accurate. Do you want to work with incorrect house cusp sub lords and give wrong predictions to people. In my case I am still not sure whether my 12th house cusp is saturn or jupiter after lajmi ji and I have spend so much time to rectify my birth time. G. Singh@gro ups.com, Sheetal <ratnamalag@ ...> wrote:>> Mr G Singh> > I think you are talking about traditional vedic astrology and sign lord. But> in Kp is about cuspal sublord so it is given importance in this group. Do u> want to say cuspal sublord and u r writting cusp lord? I am really confused> what u write. In kp, cuspal sublord has much more imporatnce than saying yes> or no. eg As it can be the significator of the same cusp too, if it is> strong means no planets in its star Anyways, if u give ur method how u reach> the conclusion, it will be practically usefull for all.> > Regards> Dr Sheetal> > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 7:26 PM, G <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...> wrote:> > >> >> > I agree with you. But I have seen especially in this group that house cusp> > lord is given too much importance, and most of the time you could be working> > with a wrong cusp lord. You can still have house cusp lord wrong even if you> > are very good at rectifying the birth time. The house cusp lord only tells> > the yes/no answer, nothing more than that for example the 7th house cusp> > lord will tell you whether the marriage is promised or not.> >> > I am not saying that we should not use house cusp lords but I tend to use> > them in horary astrology because they are always accurate in horary> > astrology. But they could be very easily inaccurate in natal chart.> >> > Regards> >> > G. Singh> >> > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>, "TW"> > <tw853@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Friends,> > >> > > Without analysing the cuspal sub lord, it is not a proper KP analysis> > because the cuspal sub lords indicate whether a matter is promised or not.> > If it is not promised, the DBAS or transit cannot make the matter to happen.> > >> > > Regards,> > > TW> > >> > >> > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>, "G"> > <hbk1hbk_2100@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sheetal ji,> > > >> > > > I use house cusp lords in my analysis only when I do horary astrology.> > While analyzing natal chart I do not use house cusps because it is very> > difficult to get correct house cusps for all 12 houses in a chart. Sometimes> > the house cusp changes even if the birth time changes by 10 seconds.> > > >> > > > Regards> > > >> > > > Gurmeet> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>,> > Sheetal <ratnamalag@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sir> > > > >> > > > > I have got one query. If 2nd sub is in star of planet in 8th house> > and sub> > > > > of of planet in 6th then what will be the result?> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > > Dr Sheetal> > > > > .> > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 6:34 PM, G <hbk1hbk_2100@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Lajmi ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > I have many clients in US who are very wealthy, billionaires. One> > thing I> > > > > > have observed again and again in their charts that the lord of 7th> > and 8th> > > > > > house was in the constellation of lord of 6th house or 2nd house.> > This is in> > > > > > addition to what Lajmi ji has mentioned in his message. The lord of> > 7th> > > > > > house represents your opponent and the lord of your 8th house> > represents> > > > > > your opponents wealth. When these two lords are in the> > constellation of your> > > > > > lord of 6th or 2nd, they will bring gains to the native always, as> > their> > > > > > opponents will always loose, because your 6th house is your> > opponents 12th> > > > > > house of loss, and your 2nd house is your opponents 8th house.> > > > > >> > > > > > Best Wishes> > > > > >> > > > > > G. Singh> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com><k_p_ system%> > 40. com>, Yogesh> > > > > > Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dears Prem & Sharma,> > > > > > >                                Â> > First of> > > > > > all,find out whether the Lagna promises it...or not...> > > > > > >                                Â> > If the> > > > > > Lord of the Lagna is of a very strong level,by occupying the> > > > > > houses,II,III, IX,X.XI & IV, and tenanting the stars of the lords of> > the> > > > > > Houses II,X & XI...> > > > > > >                               Â> > Then,check> > > > > > the status of the lords of the houses X,XI,II,and the IXth,on> > similar> > > > > > fashion...> > > > > > >                                If> > ALL> > > > > > these lords' strengths are of a High Level,(pl.also reject the> > lords of the> > > > > > appropriate XI,IX, & VII houses - the Badhaka planets - and then> > apply> > > > > > this),then alone one can say with supreme confidence that one will> > get> > > > > > Name,Fame,and Wealth in abundance... .(there are 4 levels,which have> > been> > > > > > described as: the Highest level,the other levels are the Strong,the> > > > > > Middle,and the Low levels and accordingly one can with certainty> > determine> > > > > > the level of wealth,name, fame etc., that one is destined to enjoy> > as per his> > > > > > Destiny/Fate. ..in his present life...> > > > > > >                                The> > above> > > > > > is strictly as per K.P.Rules... .and has been extensively tested and> > found to> > > > > > be very correct and accurate an assessment.. .> > > > > > >                               For> > further> > > > > > details and the finer points please refer :> > > > > > >     "Astrosecrets & Krishnamurthi Padhdhati by the late Shri> > > > > > M.P.Shanmugham. .."> > > > > > >                              Edited> > by> > > > > > Shri K.Subramaniam.> > > > > > >                               With> > the> > > > > > very best wishes,> > > > > > >                              Â> > Yogesh> > > > > > Lajmi.> > > > > > >> > > > > >                                  Â> >                 Â> > > > > > GOOD LUCK !> > > > > > >                           Â> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/24/09, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ >> > > > > >> > > > > > > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the> > person is> > > > > > rich> > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com><k_p_ system%> > 40. com>> > > > > > > Saturday, October 24, 2009, 4:14 AM> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Â> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Person’s Finance and Fortune through Horoscope> > > > > >> > > > > > > http://www.love- match-astrology. com/personalitie> > s-of-astrology-> > > > > > signs.html> > > > > > > Â> > > > > >> > > > > > > http://www.psychic- elite.com/ index.php? page=readings_> > for_business_> > > > > > commerce_ and_finance> > > > > > > Â> > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > Pram> > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@> > gmail.com>> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@> > gmail.com>> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ~~~ Om Sai Namo Namaha ~~~> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear M Sharma JI> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Good Morning> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > For fast glance of the person you can get it from Reader 6 page> > 113 topic> > > > > > Finance and Fortune. Procedure (If the SubLord of the second cusp> > is> > > > > > deposited in the star of the planet situated in which sign)> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > Pram Chopra> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:48 PM, mssumich <mssumich >> > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Â> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Respected members> > > > > > > Do we have tools in KP astrology to ascertain if a person is very> > > > > > wealthy, extremely wealthy, average, poor etc (financial> > condition)? In> > > > > > vedic astrology, one can say that there are dhana yogas and try to> > find out> > > > > > if there are multiple dhana yogas etc (I don't think there is any> > way to> > > > > > quantify). Trying to find out from learned members..> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Please see this chart...> > > > > > > Nov 19, 1938> > > > > > > 8:50am> > > > > > > Cincinatti USA> > > > > > > Lagna is Scorpio 019-56-51> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > M.Sharma> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --> > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > TPC> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --> > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > TPC> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --> > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > TPC> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> Try the new India Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Dear VijayHis 1st csl, sa is in 12, in the star and sub of ma in 10, l/o 3 10. It is not connected to 2 6 11. So how can he be rich? If tob is adjuted to make 1st csl to be jup, then also, its difficult to believe that sa dasa could give him 500 crores. Sa is a planet of restrictionRegardsSujata vijay.goel <goyalvj Sent: Mon, 26 October, 2009 10:16:32 AM Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich Respected members, I am providing the details of one rich client. He has earned money in tune of more than Rs.500 crores in last 10 years maximum from various sources. Male: November 4, 1963 Time: 13:40:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 75 E 49' 00", 26 N 55' 00" Jaipur, India [i am using KP ayanamsha in Jhora] Here nearly all parameters gets fit as said by shri Yogesh lajmiji. // First of all,find out whether the Lagna promises it...or not... If the Lord of the Lagna is of a very strong level,by occupying the houses,II,III, IX,X.XI & IV, and tenanting the stars of the lords of the Houses II,X & XI... Then,check the status of the lords of the houses X,XI,II,and the IXth,on similar fashion...// 1) Lagna lord saturn is in lagna in the star & sub Mars which is 11 Lord in 11 House. Prime condition for wealth is fulfilled. 2) 2nd lord is also saturn as above sigificator of 11H 3) 10L venus star lord saturn significator of 2H and venus in 11H. 4) 11L mars star lord is again saturn (2,1) and mars in 11H. 5) 9L mercury in star of Rahu in 6H. Many factors are indicating wealth in his chart. If we move to Chalit chart many parameters changes. Since i am not at all has experience in KP system, i retained my understanding to Lagna chart only [which is not correct i know] just to simplify it .. Kindly go through this chart. Thankyou, Regards, Vijay Goel Jaipur. @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Members & TW, >                               If the Lagna does not promise wealth, the sub-lord of II or any house will not deliver ... ! >                              Hence as per K.P. the Lagna lord or sub-lord should be examined...first. .. >                               Yogesh Lajmi. > > --- On Sun, 10/25/09, TW <tw853 wrote: > > > TW <tw853 > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich > @gro ups.com > Sunday, October 25, 2009, 12:33 PM > > >  > > > > Dear Friends, > > Without analysing the cuspal sub lord, it is not a proper KP analysis because the cuspal sub lords indicate whether a matter is promised or not. If it is not promised, the DBAS or transit cannot make the matter to happen. > > Regards, > TW > > @gro ups.com, "G" <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Sheetal ji, > > > > I use house cusp lords in my analysis only when I do horary astrology. While analyzing natal chart I do not use house cusps because it is very difficult to get correct house cusps for all 12 houses in a chart. Sometimes the house cusp changes even if the birth time changes by 10 seconds. > > > > Regards > > > > Gurmeet > > > > @gro ups.com, Sheetal <ratnamalag@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sir > > > > > > I have got one query. If 2nd sub is in star of planet in 8th house and sub > > > of of planet in 6th then what will be the result? > > > > > > Regards > > > Dr Sheetal > > > . > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 6:34 PM, G <hbk1hbk_2100@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lajmi ji, > > > > > > > > I have many clients in US who are very wealthy, billionaires. One thing I > > > > have observed again and again in their charts that the lord of 7th and 8th > > > > house was in the constellation of lord of 6th house or 2nd house. This is in > > > > addition to what Lajmi ji has mentioned in his message. The lord of 7th > > > > house represents your opponent and the lord of your 8th house represents > > > > your opponents wealth. When these two lords are in the constellation of your > > > > lord of 6th or 2nd, they will bring gains to the native always, as their > > > > opponents will always loose, because your 6th house is your opponents 12th > > > > house of loss, and your 2nd house is your opponents 8th house. > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>, Yogesh > > > > Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dears Prem & Sharma, > > > > >                                 First of > > > > all,find out whether the Lagna promises it...or not... > > > > >                                 If the > > > > Lord of the Lagna is of a very strong level,by occupying the > > > > houses,II,III, IX,X.XI & IV, and tenanting the stars of the lords of the > > > > Houses II,X & XI... > > > > >                                Then,check > > > > the status of the lords of the houses X,XI,II,and the IXth,on similar > > > > fashion... > > > > >                                If ALL > > > > these lords' strengths are of a High Level,(pl.also reject the lords of the > > > > appropriate XI,IX, & VII houses - the Badhaka planets - and then apply > > > > this),then alone one can say with supreme confidence that one will get > > > > Name,Fame,and Wealth in abundance... .(there are 4 levels,which have been > > > > described as: the Highest level,the other levels are the Strong,the > > > > Middle,and the Low levels and accordingly one can with certainty determine > > > > the level of wealth,name, fame etc., that one is destined to enjoy as per his > > > > Destiny/Fate. ..in his present life... > > > > >                                The above > > > > is strictly as per K.P.Rules... .and has been extensively tested and found to > > > > be very correct and accurate an assessment.. . > > > > >                               For further > > > > details and the finer points please refer : > > > > >     "Astrosecrets & Krishnamurthi Padhdhati by the late Shri > > > > M.P.Shanmugham. .." > > > > >                              Edited by > > > > Shri K.Subramaniam. > > > > >                               With the > > > > very best wishes, > > > > >                               Yogesh > > > > Lajmi. > > > > > > > > >                                                    > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > >                            > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/24/09, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > > > > > > > > > > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is > > > > rich > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> > > > > > Saturday, October 24, 2009, 4:14 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Person’s Finance and Fortune through Horoscope > > > > > > > > > http://www.love- match-astrology. com/personalitie s-of-astrology- > > > > signs.html > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > http://www.psychic- elite.com/ index.php? page=readings_ for_business_ > > > > commerce_ and_finance > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Pram > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ~~~ Om Sai Namo Namaha ~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear M Sharma JI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For fast glance of the person you can get it from Reader 6 page 113 topic > > > > Finance and Fortune. Procedure (If the SubLord of the second cusp is > > > > deposited in the star of the planet situated in which sign) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Pram Chopra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:48 PM, mssumich <mssumich > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected members > > > > > Do we have tools in KP astrology to ascertain if a person is very > > > > wealthy, extremely wealthy, average, poor etc (financial condition)? In > > > > vedic astrology, one can say that there are dhana yogas and try to find out > > > > if there are multiple dhana yogas etc (I don't think there is any way to > > > > quantify). Trying to find out from learned members.. > > > > > > > > > > Please see this chart... > > > > > Nov 19, 1938 > > > > > 8:50am > > > > > Cincinatti USA > > > > > Lagna is Scorpio 019-56-51 > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > M.Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Thanks > > > > > TPC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Thanks > > > > > TPC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Thanks > > > > > TPC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From cricket scores to your friends. Try the India Homepage! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Dear G.Singh, Thanks for your clarification. D.Senthil --- On Mon, 10/26/09, G <hbk1hbk_2100 wrote: G <hbk1hbk_2100 Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 3:25 PM I am talking about Bhava sub lord.G. Singh@gro ups.com, Senthil <athi_ram@.. .> wrote:>> Dear G.Singh,>  > What is house cusp lord? Is it bhava sign lord? or bhava sub lord?. In horary we will get all the house cuspal sub lords most correct as the date/time is based on judgment date/time/place only. Hence your last paragraph confuses us much. You may please clarify.>  > Thanks with regards,>  > D.Senthil>  > > > --- On Sun, 10/25/09, G <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...> wrote:> > > G <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...>> Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich> @gro ups.com> Sunday, October 25, 2009, 6:56 AM> > >  > > > > I agree with you. But I have seen especially in this group that house cusp lord is given too much importance, and most of the time you could be working with a wrong cusp lord. You can still have house cusp lord wrong even if you are very good at rectifying the birth time. The house cusp lord only tells the yes/no answer, nothing more than that for example the 7th house cusp lord will tell you whether the marriage is promised or not.> > I am not saying that we should not use house cusp lords but I tend to use them in horary astrology because they are always accurate in horary astrology. But they could be very easily inaccurate in natal chart.> > Regards> > G. Singh > > @gro ups.com, "TW" <tw853@> wrote:> >> > Dear Friends, > > > > Without analysing the cuspal sub lord, it is not a proper KP analysis because the cuspal sub lords indicate whether a matter is promised or not. If it is not promised, the DBAS or transit cannot make the matter to happen.> > > > Regards,> > TW> > > > > > @gro ups.com, "G" <hbk1hbk_2100@ > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sheetal ji,> > > > > > I use house cusp lords in my analysis only when I do horary astrology. While analyzing natal chart I do not use house cusps because it is very difficult to get correct house cusps for all 12 houses in a chart. Sometimes the house cusp changes even if the birth time changes by 10 seconds. > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Gurmeet> > > > > > @gro ups.com, Sheetal <ratnamalag@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sir> > > > > > > > I have got one query. If 2nd sub is in star of planet in 8th house and sub> > > > of of planet in 6th then what will be the result?> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Dr Sheetal> > > > .> > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 6:34 PM, G <hbk1hbk_2100@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Lajmi ji,> > > > >> > > > > I have many clients in US who are very wealthy, billionaires. One thing I> > > > > have observed again and again in their charts that the lord of 7th and 8th> > > > > house was in the constellation of lord of 6th house or 2nd house. This is in> > > > > addition to what Lajmi ji has mentioned in his message. The lord of 7th> > > > > house represents your opponent and the lord of your 8th house represents> > > > > your opponents wealth. When these two lords are in the constellation of your> > > > > lord of 6th or 2nd, they will bring gains to the native always, as their> > > > > opponents will always loose, because your 6th house is your opponents 12th> > > > > house of loss, and your 2nd house is your opponents 8th house.> > > > >> > > > > Best Wishes> > > > >> > > > > G. Singh> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>, Yogesh> > > > > Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dears Prem & Sharma,> > > > > >                                 First of> > > > > all,find out whether the Lagna promises it...or not...> > > > > >                                 If the> > > > > Lord of the Lagna is of a very strong level,by occupying the> > > > > houses,II,III, IX,X.XI & IV, and tenanting the stars of the lords of the> > > > > Houses II,X & XI...> > > > > >                                Then,check> > > > > the status of the lords of the houses X,XI,II,and the IXth,on similar> > > > > fashion...> > > > > >                                If ALL> > > > > these lords' strengths are of a High Level,(pl.also reject the lords of the> > > > > appropriate XI,IX, & VII houses - the Badhaka planets - and then apply> > > > > this),then alone one can say with supreme confidence that one will get> > > > > Name,Fame,and Wealth in abundance... .(there are 4 levels,which have been> > > > > described as: the Highest level,the other levels are the Strong,the> > > > > Middle,and the Low levels and accordingly one can with certainty determine> > > > > the level of wealth,name, fame etc., that one is destined to enjoy as per his> > > > > Destiny/Fate. ..in his present life...> > > > > >                                The above> > > > > is strictly as per K.P.Rules... .and has been extensively tested and found to> > > > > be very correct and accurate an assessment.. .> > > > > >                               For further> > > > > details and the finer points please refer :> > > > > >     "Astrosecrets & Krishnamurthi Padhdhati by the late Shri> > > > > M.P.Shanmugham. .."> > > > > >                              Edited by> > > > > Shri K.Subramaniam.> > > > > >                               With the> > > > > very best wishes,> > > > > >                               Yogesh> > > > > Lajmi.> > > > > >> > > > >                                                   Â> > > > > GOOD LUCK !> > > > > >                           Â> > > > > >> > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/24/09, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ >> > > > >> > > > > > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is> > > > > rich> > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>> > > > > > Saturday, October 24, 2009, 4:14 AM> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Â> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Person’s Finance and Fortune through Horoscope> > > > >> > > > > > http://www.love- match-astrology. com/personalitie s-of-astrology-> > > > > signs.html> > > > > > Â> > > > >> > > > > > http://www.psychic- elite.com/ index.php? page=readings_ for_business_> > > > > commerce_ and_finance> > > > > > Â> > > > >> > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > Pram> > > > > >> > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > ~~~ Om Sai Namo Namaha ~~~> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear M Sharma JI> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Good Morning> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > For fast glance of the person you can get it from Reader 6 page 113 topic> > > > > Finance and Fortune. Procedure (If the SubLord of the second cusp is> > > > > deposited in the star of the planet situated in which sign)> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > Pram Chopra> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:48 PM, mssumich <mssumich > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Â> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Respected members> > > > > > Do we have tools in KP astrology to ascertain if a person is very> > > > > wealthy, extremely wealthy, average, poor etc (financial condition)? In> > > > > vedic astrology, one can say that there are dhana yogas and try to find out> > > > > if there are multiple dhana yogas etc (I don't think there is any way to> > > > > quantify). Trying to find out from learned members..> > > > > >> > > > > > Please see this chart...> > > > > > Nov 19, 1938> > > > > > 8:50am> > > > > > Cincinatti USA> > > > > > Lagna is Scorpio 019-56-51> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > M.Sharma> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > --> > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > TPC> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > --> > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > TPC> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > --> > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > TPC> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Dear Sujata ji, Namesthe, Thankyou for your analysis. //His 1st csl, sa is in 12, in the star and sub of ma in 10, l/o 3 10. It is not connected to 2 6 11. So how can he be rich? If tob is adjuted to make 1st csl to be jup, then also, its difficult to believe that sa dasa could give him 500 crores. Sa is a planet of restriction// I have considered Lagna lord (as stated by Sri Yogeshji) not first cusp sub lord here in this example horoscope. Since both planets happen to be saturn so there is no problem. Secondly what you are saying is perfectly right. Here I have NOT considered ,in my previous post, BHAVA CHALIT CHART [ i have mentioned it]. I had applied directly on Lagna Chart, (which is wrong as per KP principles). In bhava chalit chart (placidus system) saturn move to 12 house from lagna and mars to 10H from 11H. I can only assure you that this horoscope is right as per traditional astrology techniques. This person have become rich man from its own efforts. He is my client so i know him personally for last few years. Due to the non - availability of any practical correct horoscope i have presented this one to discuss practically how he became so rich under above topic. I have One major Question from the KP experts present here, especially Sri Tin Win ji, to experiment and verify the results difference between lagna and bhava chalit chart [in this forum]. Any events in percentage over various horoscope which states directly the prominence of bhava chalit chart over lagna chart. Any link to this type of discussion, if previously happen. This will help us to understand KP more better. Thankyou, Regards, Vijay Goel Jaipur. , sujata das <sujatadash1 wrote: > > Dear Vijay > His 1st csl, sa is in 12, in the star and sub of ma in 10, l/o 3 10. It is not connected to 2 6 11. So how can he be rich? If tob is adjuted to make 1st csl to be jup, then also, its difficult to believe that sa dasa could give him 500 crores. Sa is a planet of restriction > Regards > Sujata > > > > > ________________________________ > vijay.goel <goyalvj > > Mon, 26 October, 2009 10:16:32 AM > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich > > > > > Respected members, > > I am providing the details of one rich client. > He has earned money in tune of more than Rs.500 crores in last 10 years maximum from various sources. > > Male: > November 4, 1963 > Time: 13:40:00 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 75 E 49' 00 " , 26 N 55' 00 " > Jaipur, India > [i am using KP ayanamsha in Jhora] > > Here nearly all parameters gets fit as said by shri Yogesh lajmiji. > > // First of all,find out whether the Lagna promises it...or not... > If the Lord of the Lagna is of a very strong level,by occupying the houses,II,III, IX,X.XI & IV, and tenanting the stars of the lords of the Houses II,X & XI... > Then,check the status of the lords of the houses X,XI,II,and the IXth,on similar fashion...// > > 1) Lagna lord saturn is in lagna in the star & sub Mars which is 11 Lord in 11 House. > Prime condition for wealth is fulfilled. > > 2) 2nd lord is also saturn as above sigificator of 11H > > 3) 10L venus star lord saturn significator of 2H and venus in 11H. > > 4) 11L mars star lord is again saturn (2,1) and mars in 11H. > > 5) 9L mercury in star of Rahu in 6H. > > Many factors are indicating wealth in his chart. > > If we move to Chalit chart many parameters changes. > > Since i am not at all has experience in KP system, i retained my understanding to Lagna chart only [which is not correct i know] just to simplify it .. > > Kindly go through this chart. > > Thankyou, > Regards, > Vijay Goel > Jaipur. > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Members & TW, > >                               If the Lagna does not promise wealth, the sub-lord of II or any house will not deliver ... ! > >                              Hence as per K.P. the Lagna lord or sub-lord should be examined...first. .. > >                               Yogesh Lajmi. > > > > --- On Sun, 10/25/09, TW <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > TW <tw853@> > > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich > > @gro ups.com > > Sunday, October 25, 2009, 12:33 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > Without analysing the cuspal sub lord, it is not a proper KP analysis because the cuspal sub lords indicate whether a matter is promised or not. If it is not promised, the DBAS or transit cannot make the matter to happen. > > > > Regards, > > TW > > > > @gro ups.com, " G " <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sheetal ji, > > > > > > I use house cusp lords in my analysis only when I do horary astrology. While analyzing natal chart I do not use house cusps because it is very difficult to get correct house cusps for all 12 houses in a chart. Sometimes the house cusp changes even if the birth time changes by 10 seconds. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Gurmeet > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Sheetal <ratnamalag@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sir > > > > > > > > I have got one query. If 2nd sub is in star of planet in 8th house and sub > > > > of of planet in 6th then what will be the result? > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Dr Sheetal > > > > . > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 6:34 PM, G <hbk1hbk_2100@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lajmi ji, > > > > > > > > > > I have many clients in US who are very wealthy, billionaires. One thing I > > > > > have observed again and again in their charts that the lord of 7th and 8th > > > > > house was in the constellation of lord of 6th house or 2nd house. This is in > > > > > addition to what Lajmi ji has mentioned in his message. The lord of 7th > > > > > house represents your opponent and the lord of your 8th house represents > > > > > your opponents wealth. When these two lords are in the constellation of your > > > > > lord of 6th or 2nd, they will bring gains to the native always, as their > > > > > opponents will always loose, because your 6th house is your opponents 12th > > > > > house of loss, and your 2nd house is your opponents 8th house. > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>, Yogesh > > > > > Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dears Prem & Sharma, > > > > > >                                 First of > > > > > all,find out whether the Lagna promises it...or not... > > > > > >                                 If the > > > > > Lord of the Lagna is of a very strong level,by occupying the > > > > > houses,II,III, IX,X.XI & IV, and tenanting the stars of the lords of the > > > > > Houses II,X & XI... > > > > > >                                Then,check > > > > > the status of the lords of the houses X,XI,II,and the IXth,on similar > > > > > fashion... > > > > > >                                If ALL > > > > > these lords' strengths are of a High Level,(pl.also reject the lords of the > > > > > appropriate XI,IX, & VII houses - the Badhaka planets - and then apply > > > > > this),then alone one can say with supreme confidence that one will get > > > > > Name,Fame,and Wealth in abundance... .(there are 4 levels,which have been > > > > > described as: the Highest level,the other levels are the Strong,the > > > > > Middle,and the Low levels and accordingly one can with certainty determine > > > > > the level of wealth,name, fame etc., that one is destined to enjoy as per his > > > > > Destiny/Fate. ..in his present life... > > > > > >                                The above > > > > > is strictly as per K.P.Rules... .and has been extensively tested and found to > > > > > be very correct and accurate an assessment.. . > > > > > >                               For further > > > > > details and the finer points please refer : > > > > > >     " Astrosecrets & Krishnamurthi Padhdhati by the late Shri > > > > > M.P.Shanmugham. .. " > > > > > >                              Edited by > > > > > Shri K.Subramaniam. > > > > > >                               With the > > > > > very best wishes, > > > > > >                               Yogesh > > > > > Lajmi. > > > > > > > > > > >                                                    > > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > >                            > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/24/09, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is > > > > > rich > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> > > > > > > Saturday, October 24, 2009, 4:14 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Person’s Finance and Fortune through Horoscope > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.love- match-astrology. com/personalitie s-of-astrology- > > > > > signs.html > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.psychic- elite.com/ index.php? page=readings_ for_business_ > > > > > commerce_ and_finance > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Pram > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~ Om Sai Namo Namaha ~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear M Sharma JI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For fast glance of the person you can get it from Reader 6 page 113 topic > > > > > Finance and Fortune. Procedure (If the SubLord of the second cusp is > > > > > deposited in the star of the planet situated in which sign) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Pram Chopra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:48 PM, mssumich <mssumich > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected members > > > > > > Do we have tools in KP astrology to ascertain if a person is very > > > > > wealthy, extremely wealthy, average, poor etc (financial condition)? In > > > > > vedic astrology, one can say that there are dhana yogas and try to find out > > > > > if there are multiple dhana yogas etc (I don't think there is any way to > > > > > quantify). Trying to find out from learned members.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please see this chart... > > > > > > Nov 19, 1938 > > > > > > 8:50am > > > > > > Cincinatti USA > > > > > > Lagna is Scorpio 019-56-51 > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > M.Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > TPC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > TPC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > TPC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Keep up with people you care about with India Mail. Learn how. http://in.overview.mail./connectmore > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Dear Lajmi ji, Thank you for your thoughts and appreciation. I have seen one senator's chart in Canada. He is my client and he had the lord of first house in first house in his own constellation, gave him position and money. The lagna lord does not have connection with 2nd, 6th and 11th house. Regards G. Singh , Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi wrote: > > Dear Gurmeet, >                     I have not mentioned the VIIIth because it can mean gain from,opponent/partner/wife/contractee/person with whom agreement is signed,litigant/mother's property influence and honour in foreign countries,international trade ...and so on... >                    In your case it turned out to be as you have mentioned,that is your good Fortune...or luck,the s/l of the XIIth must indicate it your exceptional luck ! >                   Any ways your analysis is truly of a very high order...and reflects your deep study of K.P. Very well done ! >                   Yogesh Lajmi. > > --- On Mon, 10/26/09, Senthil <athi_ram wrote: > > > Senthil <athi_ram > Re: Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich > > Monday, October 26, 2009, 10:53 AM > > >  > > Dear G.Singh, >  > Well done. Continue your research and I wish you all success for your prediction. You may also post your new findings for our study and use. >  > GOOD LUCK! >  > Regards, >  > D.Senthil > > > --- On Sun, 10/25/09, G <hbk1hbk_2100@ > wrote: > > > G <hbk1hbk_2100@ > > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich > @gro ups.com > Sunday, October 25, 2009, 6:43 AM > > >  > > Dear TW, > > I am sorry to say that I can not do that as I have signed a formal confidentiality agreement with them. These are the people who consult me on weekly basis. I have one Billionaire who had a team of astrologers, numerlogists, psychics, tarot card readers working for him. When he consulted me first time he did not tell me that he is a Billionaire. I analysed his chart and told him that he is very lucky and a very wealthy man. He used to consult me on regular basis. After working with me for 5 months he menioned to me that out of all astrologers, psychics, tarot card readers, numerlogists my analysis is the most accurate, and now he does not consult other astrologers, psychics, tarot card readers, numerlogists. > > This rule is not in KP books. I have done my own research. I was able to learn KP and do research very fast after I entered Jupiter Mahadasha. My astrology business is doing very well after I entered Mercury Bhukti. Both Jupiter and Mercury are in 2nd and 9th lord Mars constellation and as you know 9th house represents astrology and change in career. > > Regards > > G. Singh > > @gro ups.com, " TW " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > Dear G. Singh, > > > > Would appreciate if you can kindly post some birth details of the said billionaires (without name and POB for secrecy of astrologer-consulta nt relation) to study and learn by the KP rules practically for all of us other than here say. Because such kind of rule is really very interesting indeed since not found in KP or Vedic. > > > > Thanks and regards, > > TW > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Punit Pandey <punitp@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Gurmeet ji, > > > > > > Interesting observation. Thanks for sharing. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 6:34 PM, G <hbk1hbk_2100@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lajmi ji, > > > > > > > > I have many clients in US who are very wealthy, billionaires. One thing I > > > > have observed again and again in their charts that the lord of 7th and 8th > > > > house was in the constellation of lord of 6th house or 2nd house. This is in > > > > addition to what Lajmi ji has mentioned in his message. The lord of 7th > > > > house represents your opponent and the lord of your 8th house represents > > > > your opponents wealth. When these two lords are in the constellation of your > > > > lord of 6th or 2nd, they will bring gains to the native always, as their > > > > opponents will always loose, because your 6th house is your opponents 12th > > > > house of loss, and your 2nd house is your opponents 8th house. > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>, Yogesh > > > > Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dears Prem & Sharma, > > > > >                                 First of > > > > all,find out whether the Lagna promises it...or not... > > > > >                                 If the > > > > Lord of the Lagna is of a very strong level,by occupying the > > > > houses,II,III, IX,X.XI & IV, and tenanting the stars of the lords of the > > > > Houses II,X & XI... > > > > >                                Then,check > > > > the status of the lords of the houses X,XI,II,and the IXth,on similar > > > > fashion... > > > > >                                If ALL > > > > these lords' strengths are of a High Level,(pl.also reject the lords of the > > > > appropriate XI,IX, & VII houses - the Badhaka planets - and then apply > > > > this),then alone one can say with supreme confidence that one will get > > > > Name,Fame,and Wealth in abundance... .(there are 4 levels,which have been > > > > described as: the Highest level,the other levels are the Strong,the > > > > Middle,and the Low levels and accordingly one can with certainty determine > > > > the level of wealth,name, fame etc., that one is destined to enjoy as per his > > > > Destiny/Fate. ..in his present life... > > > > >                                The above > > > > is strictly as per K.P.Rules... .and has been extensively tested and found to > > > > be very correct and accurate an assessment.. . > > > > >                               For further > > > > details and the finer points please refer : > > > > >     " Astrosecrets & Krishnamurthi Padhdhati by the late Shri > > > > M.P.Shanmugham. .. " > > > > >                              Edited by > > > > Shri K.Subramaniam. > > > > >                               With the > > > > very best wishes, > > > > >                               Yogesh > > > > Lajmi. > > > > > > > > >                                                    > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > >                            > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/24/09, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > > > > > > > > > > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is > > > > rich > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> > > > > > Saturday, October 24, 2009, 4:14 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Person’s Finance and Fortune through Horoscope > > > > > > > > > http://www.love- match-astrology. com/personalitie s-of-astrology- > > > > signs.html > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > http://www.psychic- elite.com/ index.php? page=readings_ for_business_ > > > > commerce_ and_finance > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Pram > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail..com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail..com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ~~~ Om Sai Namo Namaha ~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear M Sharma JI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For fast glance of the person you can get it from Reader 6 page 113 topic > > > > Finance and Fortune. Procedure (If the SubLord of the second cusp is > > > > deposited in the star of the planet situated in which sign) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Pram Chopra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:48 PM, mssumich <mssumich > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected members > > > > > Do we have tools in KP astrology to ascertain if a person is very > > > > wealthy, extremely wealthy, average, poor etc (financial condition)? In > > > > vedic astrology, one can say that there are dhana yogas and try to find out > > > > if there are multiple dhana yogas etc (I don't think there is any way to > > > > quantify). Trying to find out from learned members.. > > > > > > > > > > Please see this chart... > > > > > Nov 19, 1938 > > > > > 8:50am > > > > > Cincinatti USA > > > > > Lagna is Scorpio 019-56-51 > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > M.Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Thanks > > > > > TPC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Thanks > > > > > TPC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Thanks > > > > > TPC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 In natal astrology I use KP system minus House cusp sub lord analysis. Because even if you are very good at rectifying birth time still it is very difficult to get all 12 house cusp sub lords right in a natal chart. So you do not want to base your analysis on unreliable data. I have seen in this group members are so quick on analyzing charts only based on house cusp sub lords. They give predictions and later they come to know that they were working with incorrect birth data. Also in a country like US you can not give negative predictions to your clients. You can not tell someone that they will not get married even if you know that is the real answer. You find out the significators of 2, 5, 7, 11 and see when their dasha bhukti and anthara's are active, and say that this is the period if the person tries they can get married. So you give them some hope. You tell them the difficulties in their chart as well why it may be difficult to get married. But still give them some hope. You can see my Obama analysis in November starteller magazine. I did not use house cusp sub lords in my analysis. My article is also publshed on Oped News in US. Thanks Gurmeet , Santhosh <santhosh10 wrote: > > Dear G, > in your experience how then do you proceed if you suspect the TOb may not be correct. i understand that in horarary, there is no problem. but for natal chart are you saying you just use traditional astrology alone? > santhosh > >  > > > > ________________________________ > G <hbk1hbk_2100 > > Tue, 27 October, 2009 3:52:43 AM > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich > >  > I am not saying that you guys are wrong. But the house cusp sub lords for all 12 house are very rarely correct in a natal chart. But in Horary astrology they are always accurate. > > Do you want to work with incorrect house cusp sub lords and give wrong predictions to people. In my case I am still not sure whether my 12th house cusp is saturn or jupiter after lajmi ji and I have spend so much time to rectify my birth time. > > G. Singh > > @gro ups..com, Sheetal <ratnamalag@ ...> wrote: > > > > Mr G Singh > > > > I think you are talking about traditional vedic astrology and sign lord. But > > in Kp is about cuspal sublord so it is given importance in this group. Do u > > want to say cuspal sublord and u r writting cusp lord? I am really confused > > what u write. In kp, cuspal sublord has much more imporatnce than saying yes > > or no. eg As it can be the significator of the same cusp too, if it is > > strong means no planets in its star Anyways, if u give ur method how u reach > > the conclusion, it will be practically usefull for all. > > > > Regards > > Dr Sheetal > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 7:26 PM, G <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with you.. But I have seen especially in this group that house cusp > > > lord is given too much importance, and most of the time you could be working > > > with a wrong cusp lord. You can still have house cusp lord wrong even if you > > > are very good at rectifying the birth time. The house cusp lord only tells > > > the yes/no answer, nothing more than that for example the 7th house cusp > > > lord will tell you whether the marriage is promised or not.. > > > > > > I am not saying that we should not use house cusp lords but I tend to use > > > them in horary astrology because they are always accurate in horary > > > astrology. But they could be very easily inaccurate in natal chart. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>, " TW " > > > <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > Without analysing the cuspal sub lord, it is not a proper KP analysis > > > because the cuspal sub lords indicate whether a matter is promised or not. > > > If it is not promised, the DBAS or transit cannot make the matter to happen. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > TW > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>, " G " > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sheetal ji, > > > > > > > > > > I use house cusp lords in my analysis only when I do horary astrology. > > > While analyzing natal chart I do not use house cusps because it is very > > > difficult to get correct house cusps for all 12 houses in a chart. Sometimes > > > the house cusp changes even if the birth time changes by 10 seconds. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Gurmeet > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>, > > > Sheetal <ratnamalag@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir > > > > > > > > > > > > I have got one query. If 2nd sub is in star of planet in 8th house > > > and sub > > > > > > of of planet in 6th then what will be the result? > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Dr Sheetal > > > > > > . > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 6:34 PM, G <hbk1hbk_2100@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lajmi ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have many clients in US who are very wealthy, billionaires. One > > > thing I > > > > > > > have observed again and again in their charts that the lord of 7th > > > and 8th > > > > > > > house was in the constellation of lord of 6th house or 2nd house. > > > This is in > > > > > > > addition to what Lajmi ji has mentioned in his message. The lord of > > > 7th > > > > > > > house represents your opponent and the lord of your 8th house > > > represents > > > > > > > your opponents wealth. When these two lords are in the > > > constellation of your > > > > > > > lord of 6th or 2nd, they will bring gains to the native always, as > > > their > > > > > > > opponents will always loose, because your 6th house is your > > > opponents 12th > > > > > > > house of loss, and your 2nd house is your opponents 8th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G.. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com><k_p_ system% > > > 40.. com>, Yogesh > > > > > > > Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dears Prem & Sharma, > > > > > > > >                                 > > > First of > > > > > > > all,find out whether the Lagna promises it...or not... > > > > > > > >                                 > > > If the > > > > > > > Lord of the Lagna is of a very strong level,by occupying the > > > > > > > houses,II,III, IX,X.XI & IV, and tenanting the stars of the lords of > > > the > > > > > > > Houses II,X & XI.... > > > > > > > >                                > > > Then,check > > > > > > > the status of the lords of the houses X,XI,II,and the IXth,on > > > similar > > > > > > > fashion... > > > > > > > >                                If > > > ALL > > > > > > > these lords' strengths are of a High Level,(pl.also reject the > > > lords of the > > > > > > > appropriate XI,IX, & VII houses - the Badhaka planets - and then > > > apply > > > > > > > this),then alone one can say with supreme confidence that one will > > > get > > > > > > > Name,Fame,and Wealth in abundance... .(there are 4 levels,which have > > > been > > > > > > > described as: the Highest level,the other levels are the Strong,the > > > > > > > Middle,and the Low levels and accordingly one can with certainty > > > determine > > > > > > > the level of wealth,name, fame etc., that one is destined to enjoy > > > as per his > > > > > > > Destiny/Fate. ..in his present life... > > > > > > > >                                The > > > above > > > > > > > is strictly as per K.P.Rules... .and has been extensively tested and > > > found to > > > > > > > be very correct and accurate an assessment.. . > > > > > > > >                               For > > > further > > > > > > > details and the finer points please refer : > > > > > > > >     " Astrosecrets & Krishnamurthi Padhdhati by the late Shri > > > > > > > M.P.Shanmugham. ... " > > > > > > > >                              Edited > > > by > > > > > > > Shri K.Subramaniam. > > > > > > > >                               With > > > the > > > > > > > very best wishes, > > > > > > > >                               > > > Yogesh > > > > > > > Lajmi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                   > > >                  > > > > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > >                            > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/24/09, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the > > > person is > > > > > > > rich > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com><k_p_ system% > > > 40. com> > > > > > > > > Saturday, October 24, 2009, 4:14 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Person’s Finance and Fortune through Horoscope > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.love- match-astrology. com/personalitie > > > s-of-astrology- > > > > > > > signs.html > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.psychic- elite.com/ index.php? page=readings_ > > > for_business_ > > > > > > > commerce_ and_finance > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Pram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > > > gmail.com> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > > > gmail.com> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~ Om Sai Namo Namaha ~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear M Sharma JI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For fast glance of the person you can get it from Reader 6 page > > > 113 topic > > > > > > > Finance and Fortune. Procedure (If the SubLord of the second cusp > > > is > > > > > > > deposited in the star of the planet situated in which sign) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Pram Chopra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:48 PM, mssumich <mssumich > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected members > > > > > > > > Do we have tools in KP astrology to ascertain if a person is very > > > > > > > wealthy, extremely wealthy, average, poor etc (financial > > > condition)? In > > > > > > > vedic astrology, one can say that there are dhana yogas and try to > > > find out > > > > > > > if there are multiple dhana yogas etc (I don't think there is any > > > way to > > > > > > > quantify). Trying to find out from learned members.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please see this chart... > > > > > > > > Nov 19, 1938 > > > > > > > > 8:50am > > > > > > > > Cincinatti USA > > > > > > > > Lagna is Scorpio 019-56-51 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > M.Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > TPC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > TPC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > TPC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > India has a new look. Take a sneak peek http://in./trynew > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Dear Sujata Ji, Please change time to 13:36:20 sat-ma-jup-ket 75E49, 26N55, JAIPUR then check the lagna and calculate, With Regards suresh awasthi--- On Tue, 10/27/09, vijay.goel <goyalvj wrote: vijay.goel <goyalvj Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 10:18 AM Dear Sujata ji,Namesthe,Thankyou for your analysis.//His 1st csl, sa is in 12, in the star and sub of ma in 10, l/o 3 10. It is not connected to 2 6 11. So how can he be rich? If tob is adjuted to make 1st csl to be jup, then also, its difficult to believe that sa dasa could give him 500 crores. Sa is a planet of restriction/ /I have considered Lagna lord (as stated by Sri Yogeshji) not first cusp sub lord here in this example horoscope.Since both planets happen to be saturn so there is no problem.Secondly what you are saying is perfectly right. Here I have NOT considered ,in my previous post, BHAVA CHALIT CHART [ i have mentioned it]. I had applied directly on Lagna Chart, (which is wrong as per KP principles).In bhava chalit chart (placidus system) saturn move to 12 house from lagna and mars to 10H from 11H.I can only assure you that this horoscope is right as per traditional astrology techniques.This person have become rich man from its own efforts. He is my client so i know him personally for last few years.Due to the non - availability of any practical correct horoscope i have presented this one to discuss practically how he became so rich under above topic.I have One major Question from the KP experts present here, especially Sri Tin Win ji, to experiment and verify the results difference between lagna and bhava chalit chart [in this forum]. Any events in percentage over various horoscope which states directly the prominence of bhava chalit chart over lagna chart.Any link to this type of discussion, if previously happen.This will help us to understand KP more better.Thankyou,Regards,Vijay GoelJaipur.@gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Vijay> His 1st csl, sa is in 12, in the star and sub of ma in 10, l/o 3 10. It is not connected to 2 6 11. So how can he be rich? If tob is adjuted to make 1st csl to be jup, then also, its difficult to believe that sa dasa could give him 500 crores. Sa is a planet of restriction> Regards> Sujata> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> vijay.goel <goyalvj >> @gro ups.com> Mon, 26 October, 2009 10:16:32 AM> Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich> > > > > Respected members,> > I am providing the details of one rich client.> He has earned money in tune of more than Rs.500 crores in last 10 years maximum from various sources.> > Male:> November 4, 1963> Time: 13:40:00> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 75 E 49' 00", 26 N 55' 00"> Jaipur, India> [i am using KP ayanamsha in Jhora]> > Here nearly all parameters gets fit as said by shri Yogesh lajmiji.> > // First of all,find out whether the Lagna promises it...or not...> If the Lord of the Lagna is of a very strong level,by occupying the houses,II,III, IX,X.XI & IV, and tenanting the stars of the lords of the Houses II,X & XI...> Then,check the status of the lords of the houses X,XI,II,and the IXth,on similar fashion...//> > 1) Lagna lord saturn is in lagna in the star & sub Mars which is 11 Lord in 11 House.> Prime condition for wealth is fulfilled.> > 2) 2nd lord is also saturn as above sigificator of 11H> > 3) 10L venus star lord saturn significator of 2H and venus in 11H.> > 4) 11L mars star lord is again saturn (2,1) and mars in 11H.> > 5) 9L mercury in star of Rahu in 6H.> > Many factors are indicating wealth in his chart.> > If we move to Chalit chart many parameters changes.> > Since i am not at all has experience in KP system, i retained my understanding to Lagna chart only [which is not correct i know] just to simplify it ..> > Kindly go through this chart.> > Thankyou,> Regards,> Vijay Goel> Jaipur.> > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Members & TW,> >                               If the Lagna does not promise wealth, the sub-lord of II or any house will not deliver ... !> >                              Hence as per K.P. the Lagna lord or sub-lord should be examined...first. ..> >                               Yogesh Lajmi.> > > > --- On Sun, 10/25/09, TW <tw853@> wrote:> > > > > > TW <tw853@>> > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich> > @gro ups.com> > Sunday, October 25, 2009, 12:33 PM> > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > Without analysing the cuspal sub lord, it is not a proper KP analysis because the cuspal sub lords indicate whether a matter is promised or not. If it is not promised, the DBAS or transit cannot make the matter to happen.> > > > Regards,> > TW> > > > @gro ups.com, "G" <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sheetal ji,> > > > > > I use house cusp lords in my analysis only when I do horary astrology. While analyzing natal chart I do not use house cusps because it is very difficult to get correct house cusps for all 12 houses in a chart. Sometimes the house cusp changes even if the birth time changes by 10 seconds. > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Gurmeet> > > > > > @gro ups.com, Sheetal <ratnamalag@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sir> > > > > > > > I have got one query. If 2nd sub is in star of planet in 8th house and sub> > > > of of planet in 6th then what will be the result?> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Dr Sheetal> > > > .> > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 6:34 PM, G <hbk1hbk_2100@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Lajmi ji,> > > > >> > > > > I have many clients in US who are very wealthy, billionaires. One thing I> > > > > have observed again and again in their charts that the lord of 7th and 8th> > > > > house was in the constellation of lord of 6th house or 2nd house. This is in> > > > > addition to what Lajmi ji has mentioned in his message. The lord of 7th> > > > > house represents your opponent and the lord of your 8th house represents> > > > > your opponents wealth. When these two lords are in the constellation of your> > > > > lord of 6th or 2nd, they will bring gains to the native always, as their> > > > > opponents will always loose, because your 6th house is your opponents 12th> > > > > house of loss, and your 2nd house is your opponents 8th house.> > > > >> > > > > Best Wishes> > > > >> > > > > G. Singh> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>, Yogesh> > > > > Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dears Prem & Sharma,> > > > > >                                 First of> > > > > all,find out whether the Lagna promises it...or not...> > > > > >                                 If the> > > > > Lord of the Lagna is of a very strong level,by occupying the> > > > > houses,II,III, IX,X.XI & IV, and tenanting the stars of the lords of the> > > > > Houses II,X & XI...> > > > > >                                Then,check> > > > > the status of the lords of the houses X,XI,II,and the IXth,on similar> > > > > fashion...> > > > > >                                If ALL> > > > > these lords' strengths are of a High Level,(pl.also reject the lords of the> > > > > appropriate XI,IX, & VII houses - the Badhaka planets - and then apply> > > > > this),then alone one can say with supreme confidence that one will get> > > > > Name,Fame,and Wealth in abundance... .(there are 4 levels,which have been> > > > > described as: the Highest level,the other levels are the Strong,the> > > > > Middle,and the Low levels and accordingly one can with certainty determine> > > > > the level of wealth,name, fame etc., that one is destined to enjoy as per his> > > > > Destiny/Fate. ..in his present life...> > > > > >                                The above> > > > > is strictly as per K.P.Rules... .and has been extensively tested and found to> > > > > be very correct and accurate an assessment.. .> > > > > >                               For further> > > > > details and the finer points please refer :> > > > > >     "Astrosecrets & Krishnamurthi Padhdhati by the late Shri> > > > > M.P.Shanmugham. .."> > > > > >                              Edited by> > > > > Shri K.Subramaniam.> > > > > >                               With the> > > > > very best wishes,> > > > > >                               Yogesh> > > > > Lajmi.> > > > > >> > > > >                                                   Â> > > > > GOOD LUCK !> > > > > >                           Â> > > > > >> > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/24/09, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ >> > > > >> > > > > > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is> > > > > rich> > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>> > > > > > Saturday, October 24, 2009, 4:14 AM> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Â> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Person’s Finance and Fortune through Horoscope> > > > >> > > > > > http://www.love- match-astrology. com/personalitie s-of-astrology-> > > > > signs.html> > > > > > Â> > > > >> > > > > > http://www.psychic- elite.com/ index.php? page=readings_ for_business_> > > > > commerce_ and_finance> > > > > > Â> > > > >> > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > Pram> > > > > >> > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > ~~~ Om Sai Namo Namaha ~~~> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear M Sharma JI> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Good Morning> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > For fast glance of the person you can get it from Reader 6 page 113 topic> > > > > Finance and Fortune. Procedure (If the SubLord of the second cusp is> > > > > deposited in the star of the planet situated in which sign)> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > Pram Chopra> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:48 PM, mssumich <mssumich > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Â> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Respected members> > > > > > Do we have tools in KP astrology to ascertain if a person is very> > > > > wealthy, extremely wealthy, average, poor etc (financial condition)? In> > > > > vedic astrology, one can say that there are dhana yogas and try to find out> > > > > if there are multiple dhana yogas etc (I don't think there is any way to> > > > > quantify). Trying to find out from learned members..> > > > > >> > > > > > Please see this chart...> > > > > > Nov 19, 1938> > > > > > 8:50am> > > > > > Cincinatti USA> > > > > > Lagna is Scorpio 019-56-51> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > M.Sharma> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > --> > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > TPC> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > --> > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > TPC> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > --> > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > TPC> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > > > > Keep up with people you care about with India Mail. Learn how. http://in.overview. mail.. com/connectmore> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 will you please send your obama analyses in attached file nagi--- On Tue, 27/10/09, G <hbk1hbk_2100 wrote: G <hbk1hbk_2100 Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich Date: Tuesday, 27 October, 2009, 3:43 AM In natal astrology I use KP system minus House cusp sub lord analysis. Because even if you are very good at rectifying birth time still it is very difficult to get all 12 house cusp sub lords right in a natal chart. So you do not want to base your analysis on unreliable data. I have seen in this group members are so quick on analyzing charts only based on house cusp sub lords. They give predictions and later they come to know that they were working with incorrect birth data.Also in a country like US you can not give negative predictions to your clients. You can not tell someone that they will not get married even if you know that is the real answer. You find out the significators of 2, 5, 7, 11 and see when their dasha bhukti and anthara's are active, and say that this is the period if the person tries they can get married. So you give them some hope. You tell them the difficulties in their chart as well why it may be difficult to get married. But still give them some hope.You can see my Obama analysis in November starteller magazine. I did not use house cusp sub lords in my analysis. My article is also publshed on Oped News in US.ThanksGurmeet@gro ups.com, Santhosh <santhosh10@ ...> wrote:>> Dear G,> in your experience how then do you proceed if you suspect the TOb may not be correct. i understand that in horarary, there is no problem. but for natal chart are you saying you just use traditional astrology alone?> santhosh> >  > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> G <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...>> @gro ups.com> Tue, 27 October, 2009 3:52:43 AM> Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich> >  > I am not saying that you guys are wrong. But the house cusp sub lords for all 12 house are very rarely correct in a natal chart. But in Horary astrology they are always accurate. > > Do you want to work with incorrect house cusp sub lords and give wrong predictions to people. In my case I am still not sure whether my 12th house cusp is saturn or jupiter after lajmi ji and I have spend so much time to rectify my birth time. > > G. Singh> > @gro ups..com, Sheetal <ratnamalag@ ...> wrote:> >> > Mr G Singh> > > > I think you are talking about traditional vedic astrology and sign lord. But> > in Kp is about cuspal sublord so it is given importance in this group. Do u> > want to say cuspal sublord and u r writting cusp lord? I am really confused> > what u write. In kp, cuspal sublord has much more imporatnce than saying yes> > or no. eg As it can be the significator of the same cusp too, if it is> > strong means no planets in its star Anyways, if u give ur method how u reach> > the conclusion, it will be practically usefull for all.> > > > Regards> > Dr Sheetal> > > > > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 7:26 PM, G <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > >> > > I agree with you.. But I have seen especially in this group that house cusp> > > lord is given too much importance, and most of the time you could be working> > > with a wrong cusp lord. You can still have house cusp lord wrong even if you> > > are very good at rectifying the birth time. The house cusp lord only tells> > > the yes/no answer, nothing more than that for example the 7th house cusp> > > lord will tell you whether the marriage is promised or not..> > >> > > I am not saying that we should not use house cusp lords but I tend to use> > > them in horary astrology because they are always accurate in horary> > > astrology. But they could be very easily inaccurate in natal chart.> > >> > > Regards> > >> > > G. Singh> > >> > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>, "TW"> > > <tw853@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Friends,> > > >> > > > Without analysing the cuspal sub lord, it is not a proper KP analysis> > > because the cuspal sub lords indicate whether a matter is promised or not.> > > If it is not promised, the DBAS or transit cannot make the matter to happen.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > > TW> > > >> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>, "G"> > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sheetal ji,> > > > >> > > > > I use house cusp lords in my analysis only when I do horary astrology.> > > While analyzing natal chart I do not use house cusps because it is very> > > difficult to get correct house cusps for all 12 houses in a chart. Sometimes> > > the house cusp changes even if the birth time changes by 10 seconds.> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > >> > > > > Gurmeet> > > > >> > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>,> > > Sheetal <ratnamalag@ > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Sir> > > > > >> > > > > > I have got one query. If 2nd sub is in star of planet in 8th house> > > and sub> > > > > > of of planet in 6th then what will be the result?> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Dr Sheetal> > > > > > .> > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 6:34 PM, G <hbk1hbk_2100@ > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Lajmi ji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I have many clients in US who are very wealthy, billionaires. One> > > thing I> > > > > > > have observed again and again in their charts that the lord of 7th> > > and 8th> > > > > > > house was in the constellation of lord of 6th house or 2nd house.> > > This is in> > > > > > > addition to what Lajmi ji has mentioned in his message. The lord of> > > 7th> > > > > > > house represents your opponent and the lord of your 8th house> > > represents> > > > > > > your opponents wealth. When these two lords are in the> > > constellation of your> > > > > > > lord of 6th or 2nd, they will bring gains to the native always, as> > > their> > > > > > > opponents will always loose, because your 6th house is your> > > opponents 12th> > > > > > > house of loss, and your 2nd house is your opponents 8th house.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Best Wishes> > > > > > >> > > > > > > G.. Singh> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com><k_p_ system%> > > 40. . com>, Yogesh> > > > > > > Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dears Prem & Sharma,> > > > > > > >                                Â> > > First of> > > > > > > all,find out whether the Lagna promises it...or not...> > > > > > > >                                Â> > > If the> > > > > > > Lord of the Lagna is of a very strong level,by occupying the> > > > > > > houses,II,III, IX,X.XI & IV, and tenanting the stars of the lords of> > > the> > > > > > > Houses II,X & XI....> > > > > > > >                               Â> > > Then,check> > > > > > > the status of the lords of the houses X,XI,II,and the IXth,on> > > similar> > > > > > > fashion...> > > > > > > >                                If> > > ALL> > > > > > > these lords' strengths are of a High Level,(pl.also reject the> > > lords of the> > > > > > > appropriate XI,IX, & VII houses - the Badhaka planets - and then> > > apply> > > > > > > this),then alone one can say with supreme confidence that one will> > > get> > > > > > > Name,Fame,and Wealth in abundance... .(there are 4 levels,which have> > > been> > > > > > > described as: the Highest level,the other levels are the Strong,the> > > > > > > Middle,and the Low levels and accordingly one can with certainty> > > determine> > > > > > > the level of wealth,name, fame etc., that one is destined to enjoy> > > as per his> > > > > > > Destiny/Fate. ..in his present life...> > > > > > > >                                The> > > above> > > > > > > is strictly as per K.P.Rules... .and has been extensively tested and> > > found to> > > > > > > be very correct and accurate an assessment.. .> > > > > > > >                               For> > > further> > > > > > > details and the finer points please refer :> > > > > > > >     "Astrosecrets & Krishnamurthi Padhdhati by the late Shri> > > > > > > M.P.Shanmugham. ..."> > > > > > > >                              Edited> > > by> > > > > > > Shri K.Subramaniam.> > > > > > > >                               With> > > the> > > > > > > very best wishes,> > > > > > > >                              Â> > > Yogesh> > > > > > > Lajmi.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >                                  Â> > >                 Â> > > > > > > GOOD LUCK !> > > > > > > >                           Â> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/24/09, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the> > > person is> > > > > > > rich> > > > > > > > To: @gro ups.com <% 40. com><k_p_ system%> > > 40. com>> > > > > > > > Saturday, October 24, 2009, 4:14 AM> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Â> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Person’s Finance and Fortune through Horoscope> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > http://www.love- match-astrology. com/personalitie> > > s-of-astrology-> > > > > > > signs.html> > > > > > > > Â> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > http://www.psychic- elite.com/ index.php? page=readings_> > > for_business_> > > > > > > commerce_ and_finance> > > > > > > > Â> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > > Pram> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@> > > gmail.com>> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@> > > gmail.com>> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ~~~ Om Sai Namo Namaha ~~~> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear M Sharma JI> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Good Morning> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > For fast glance of the person you can get it from Reader 6 page> > > 113 topic> > > > > > > Finance and Fortune. Procedure (If the SubLord of the second cusp> > > is> > > > > > > deposited in the star of the planet situated in which sign)> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > > Pram Chopra> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:48 PM, mssumich <mssumich >> > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Â> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Respected members> > > > > > > > Do we have tools in KP astrology to ascertain if a person is very> > > > > > > wealthy, extremely wealthy, average, poor etc (financial> > > condition)? In> > > > > > > vedic astrology, one can say that there are dhana yogas and try to> > > find out> > > > > > > if there are multiple dhana yogas etc (I don't think there is any> > > way to> > > > > > > quantify). Trying to find out from learned members..> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Please see this chart...> > > > > > > > Nov 19, 1938> > > > > > > > 8:50am> > > > > > > > Cincinatti USA> > > > > > > > Lagna is Scorpio 019-56-51> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > > M.Sharma> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > > TPC> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > > TPC> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > > TPC> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > India has a new look. Take a sneak peek http://in.. com/trynew> Connect more, do more and share more with India Mail. Learn more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Kp is bhava chalit onlyvijay.goel <goyalvj Sent: Tue, 27 October, 2009 3:48:38 PM Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich Dear Sujata ji, Namesthe, Thankyou for your analysis. //His 1st csl, sa is in 12, in the star and sub of ma in 10, l/o 3 10. It is not connected to 2 6 11. So how can he be rich? If tob is adjuted to make 1st csl to be jup, then also, its difficult to believe that sa dasa could give him 500 crores. Sa is a planet of restriction/ / I have considered Lagna lord (as stated by Sri Yogeshji) not first cusp sub lord here in this example horoscope. Since both planets happen to be saturn so there is no problem. Secondly what you are saying is perfectly right. Here I have NOT considered ,in my previous post, BHAVA CHALIT CHART [ i have mentioned it]. I had applied directly on Lagna Chart, (which is wrong as per KP principles). In bhava chalit chart (placidus system) saturn move to 12 house from lagna and mars to 10H from 11H. I can only assure you that this horoscope is right as per traditional astrology techniques. This person have become rich man from its own efforts. He is my client so i know him personally for last few years. Due to the non - availability of any practical correct horoscope i have presented this one to discuss practically how he became so rich under above topic. I have One major Question from the KP experts present here, especially Sri Tin Win ji, to experiment and verify the results difference between lagna and bhava chalit chart [in this forum]. Any events in percentage over various horoscope which states directly the prominence of bhava chalit chart over lagna chart. Any link to this type of discussion, if previously happen. This will help us to understand KP more better. Thankyou, Regards, Vijay Goel Jaipur. @gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Vijay > His 1st csl, sa is in 12, in the star and sub of ma in 10, l/o 3 10. It is not connected to 2 6 11. So how can he be rich? If tob is adjuted to make 1st csl to be jup, then also, its difficult to believe that sa dasa could give him 500 crores. Sa is a planet of restriction > Regards > Sujata > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > vijay.goel <goyalvj > > @gro ups.com > Mon, 26 October, 2009 10:16:32 AM > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich > > > > > Respected members, > > I am providing the details of one rich client. > He has earned money in tune of more than Rs.500 crores in last 10 years maximum from various sources. > > Male: > November 4, 1963 > Time: 13:40:00 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 75 E 49' 00", 26 N 55' 00" > Jaipur, India > [i am using KP ayanamsha in Jhora] > > Here nearly all parameters gets fit as said by shri Yogesh lajmiji. > > // First of all,find out whether the Lagna promises it...or not... > If the Lord of the Lagna is of a very strong level,by occupying the houses,II,III, IX,X.XI & IV, and tenanting the stars of the lords of the Houses II,X & XI... > Then,check the status of the lords of the houses X,XI,II,and the IXth,on similar fashion...// > > 1) Lagna lord saturn is in lagna in the star & sub Mars which is 11 Lord in 11 House. > Prime condition for wealth is fulfilled. > > 2) 2nd lord is also saturn as above sigificator of 11H > > 3) 10L venus star lord saturn significator of 2H and venus in 11H. > > 4) 11L mars star lord is again saturn (2,1) and mars in 11H. > > 5) 9L mercury in star of Rahu in 6H. > > Many factors are indicating wealth in his chart. > > If we move to Chalit chart many parameters changes. > > Since i am not at all has experience in KP system, i retained my understanding to Lagna chart only [which is not correct i know] just to simplify it .. > > Kindly go through this chart. > > Thankyou, > Regards, > Vijay Goel > Jaipur. > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Members & TW, > >                               If the Lagna does not promise wealth, the sub-lord of II or any house will not deliver ... ! > >                              Hence as per K.P. the Lagna lord or sub-lord should be examined...first. .. > >                               Yogesh Lajmi. > > > > --- On Sun, 10/25/09, TW <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > TW <tw853@> > > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich > > @gro ups.com > > Sunday, October 25, 2009, 12:33 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > Without analysing the cuspal sub lord, it is not a proper KP analysis because the cuspal sub lords indicate whether a matter is promised or not. If it is not promised, the DBAS or transit cannot make the matter to happen. > > > > Regards, > > TW > > > > @gro ups.com, "G" <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sheetal ji, > > > > > > I use house cusp lords in my analysis only when I do horary astrology. While analyzing natal chart I do not use house cusps because it is very difficult to get correct house cusps for all 12 houses in a chart. Sometimes the house cusp changes even if the birth time changes by 10 seconds. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Gurmeet > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Sheetal <ratnamalag@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sir > > > > > > > > I have got one query. If 2nd sub is in star of planet in 8th house and sub > > > > of of planet in 6th then what will be the result? > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Dr Sheetal > > > > . > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 6:34 PM, G <hbk1hbk_2100@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lajmi ji, > > > > > > > > > > I have many clients in US who are very wealthy, billionaires. One thing I > > > > > have observed again and again in their charts that the lord of 7th and 8th > > > > > house was in the constellation of lord of 6th house or 2nd house. This is in > > > > > addition to what Lajmi ji has mentioned in his message. The lord of 7th > > > > > house represents your opponent and the lord of your 8th house represents > > > > > your opponents wealth. When these two lords are in the constellation of your > > > > > lord of 6th or 2nd, they will bring gains to the native always, as their > > > > > opponents will always loose, because your 6th house is your opponents 12th > > > > > house of loss, and your 2nd house is your opponents 8th house. > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>, Yogesh > > > > > Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dears Prem & Sharma, > > > > > >                                 First of > > > > > all,find out whether the Lagna promises it...or not... > > > > > >                                 If the > > > > > Lord of the Lagna is of a very strong level,by occupying the > > > > > houses,II,III, IX,X.XI & IV, and tenanting the stars of the lords of the > > > > > Houses II,X & XI... > > > > > >                                Then,check > > > > > the status of the lords of the houses X,XI,II,and the IXth,on similar > > > > > fashion... > > > > > >                                If ALL > > > > > these lords' strengths are of a High Level,(pl.also reject the lords of the > > > > > appropriate XI,IX, & VII houses - the Badhaka planets - and then apply > > > > > this),then alone one can say with supreme confidence that one will get > > > > > Name,Fame,and Wealth in abundance... .(there are 4 levels,which have been > > > > > described as: the Highest level,the other levels are the Strong,the > > > > > Middle,and the Low levels and accordingly one can with certainty determine > > > > > the level of wealth,name, fame etc., that one is destined to enjoy as per his > > > > > Destiny/Fate. ..in his present life... > > > > > >                                The above > > > > > is strictly as per K.P.Rules... .and has been extensively tested and found to > > > > > be very correct and accurate an assessment.. . > > > > > >                               For further > > > > > details and the finer points please refer : > > > > > >     "Astrosecrets & Krishnamurthi Padhdhati by the late Shri > > > > > M.P.Shanmugham. .." > > > > > >                              Edited by > > > > > Shri K.Subramaniam. > > > > > >                               With the > > > > > very best wishes, > > > > > >                               Yogesh > > > > > Lajmi. > > > > > > > > > > >                                                    > > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > >                            > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/24/09, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is > > > > > rich > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> > > > > > > Saturday, October 24, 2009, 4:14 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Person’s Finance and Fortune through Horoscope > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.love- match-astrology. com/personalitie s-of-astrology- > > > > > signs.html > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.psychic- elite.com/ index.php? page=readings_ for_business_ > > > > > commerce_ and_finance > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Pram > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~ Om Sai Namo Namaha ~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear M Sharma JI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For fast glance of the person you can get it from Reader 6 page 113 topic > > > > > Finance and Fortune. Procedure (If the SubLord of the second cusp is > > > > > deposited in the star of the planet situated in which sign) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Pram Chopra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:48 PM, mssumich <mssumich > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected members > > > > > > Do we have tools in KP astrology to ascertain if a person is very > > > > > wealthy, extremely wealthy, average, poor etc (financial condition)? In > > > > > vedic astrology, one can say that there are dhana yogas and try to find out > > > > > if there are multiple dhana yogas etc (I don't think there is any way to > > > > > quantify). Trying to find out from learned members.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please see this chart... > > > > > > Nov 19, 1938 > > > > > > 8:50am > > > > > > Cincinatti USA > > > > > > Lagna is Scorpio 019-56-51 > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > M.Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > TPC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > TPC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > TPC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Keep up with people you care about with India Mail. Learn how. http://in.overview. mail.. com/connectmore > Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Dear Sureshji, //Please change time to 13:36:20 sat-ma-jup-ket> 75E49, 26N55, JAIPUR//The horoscope is as follows : Rasi +--------------+| \ / \ / || \ Md / \ Ke / || \ / \ / || \ / Sa \ / || \ / \ / ||JuR GL x As x Ve Ma || / \ / \ || / \ Gk / \ || / \ / \ || / \ 10 / Me \ || / \ / \ || x Su || \ / \ / || \ / \ AL / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / ||Mo HL x x || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / Ra \ / \ || / \ / \ |+--------------+Bhava chalit chart is :Bhava/Chalit Chakra D-1 (B)+--------------+| \ GL / \ Gk / || \ JuR / \ Sa / || \ / \ / || \ / Md \ / || \ / \ / || x As x AL Ke || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / HL \ 10 / \ || / \ / \ || Mo x Ma || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / || \ / \ / Ve ||Ra x x Me Su || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / \ / \ || / \ / \ |+--------------+ Body/Cusp Nakshatra lord Sub lord As Ma Ju Su Ra Su Mo Ma Ju Ma Sa Ra Me Ra Su Ju Me Me Ve Sa Sa Sa Ma Ma Ra Ra Ma Ke Ve Ra Ur Ve Su Ne Ju Sa Pl Ve Ju 1st house Ma Ju 2nd house Sa Me 3rd house Ke Me 4th house Su Ve 5th house Ma Ve 6th house Ju Ve 7th house Me Ju 8th house Su Ke 9th house Ra Sa 10th house Sa Ve 11th house Ke Su 12th house Su Mo I hope this bhava chalit chakra is correct.Venus from 11H is shifted to 9th house in Bhava chalit chart.Thankyou,Best Wishes,Vijay Goeljaipur , Suresh Awasthi <suresh.awasthi wrote:>> Dear Sujata Ji,> Please change time to 13:36:20 sat-ma-jup-ket> 75E49, 26N55, JAIPUR>  > then check the lagna and calculate,> With Regards> suresh awasthi> > --- On Tue, 10/27/09, vijay.goel goyalvj wrote:> > > vijay.goel goyalvj Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich> > Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 10:18 AM> > >  > > > > > > Dear Sujata ji,> > Namesthe,> > Thankyou for your analysis.> > //His 1st csl, sa is in 12, in the star and sub of ma in 10, l/o 3 10. It is not connected to 2 6 11. So how can he be rich? If tob is adjuted to make 1st csl to be jup, then also, its difficult to believe that sa dasa could give him 500 crores. Sa is a planet of restriction/ /> > I have considered Lagna lord (as stated by Sri Yogeshji) not first cusp sub lord here in this example horoscope.> Since both planets happen to be saturn so there is no problem.> > Secondly what you are saying is perfectly right. > Here I have NOT considered ,in my previous post, BHAVA CHALIT CHART [ i have mentioned it]. I had applied directly on Lagna Chart, (which is wrong as per KP principles).> In bhava chalit chart (placidus system) saturn move to 12 house from lagna and mars to 10H from 11H.> > I can only assure you that this horoscope is right as per traditional astrology techniques.> This person have become rich man from its own efforts. He is my client so i know him personally for last few years.> > Due to the non - availability of any practical correct horoscope i have presented this one to discuss practically how he became so rich under above topic.> > I have One major Question from the KP experts present here, especially Sri Tin Win ji, to experiment and verify the results difference between lagna and bhava chalit chart [in this forum]. Any events in percentage over various horoscope which states directly the prominence of bhava chalit chart over lagna chart.> Any link to this type of discussion, if previously happen.> > This will help us to understand KP more better.> > Thankyou,> Regards,> Vijay Goel> Jaipur.> > @gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Vijay> > His 1st csl, sa is in 12, in the star and sub of ma in 10, l/o 3 10. It is not connected to 2 6 11. So how can he be rich? If tob is adjuted to make 1st csl to be jup, then also, its difficult to believe that sa dasa could give him 500 crores. Sa is a planet of restriction> > Regards> > Sujata> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > vijay.goel goyalvj@ >> > @gro ups.com> > Mon, 26 October, 2009 10:16:32 AM> > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich> > > > > > > > > > Respected members,> > > > I am providing the details of one rich client.> > He has earned money in tune of more than Rs.500 crores in last 10 years maximum from various sources.> > > > Male:> > November 4, 1963> > Time: 13:40:00> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 75 E 49' 00", 26 N 55' 00"> > Jaipur, India> > [i am using KP ayanamsha in Jhora]> > > > Here nearly all parameters gets fit as said by shri Yogesh lajmiji.> > > > // First of all,find out whether the Lagna promises it...or not...> > If the Lord of the Lagna is of a very strong level,by occupying the houses,II,III, IX,X.XI & IV, and tenanting the stars of the lords of the Houses II,X & XI...> > Then,check the status of the lords of the houses X,XI,II,and the IXth,on similar fashion...//> > > > 1) Lagna lord saturn is in lagna in the star & sub Mars which is 11 Lord in 11 House.> > Prime condition for wealth is fulfilled.> > > > 2) 2nd lord is also saturn as above sigificator of 11H> > > > 3) 10L venus star lord saturn significator of 2H and venus in 11H.> > > > 4) 11L mars star lord is again saturn (2,1) and mars in 11H.> > > > 5) 9L mercury in star of Rahu in 6H.> > > > Many factors are indicating wealth in his chart.> > > > If we move to Chalit chart many parameters changes.> > > > Since i am not at all has experience in KP system, i retained my understanding to Lagna chart only [which is not correct i know] just to simplify it ..> > > > Kindly go through this chart.> > > > Thankyou,> > Regards,> > Vijay Goel> > Jaipur.> > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Members & TW,> > >                               If the Lagna does not promise wealth, the sub-lord of II or any house will not deliver ... !> > >                              Hence as per K.P. the Lagna lord or sub-lord should be examined...first. ..> > >                               Yogesh Lajmi.> > > > > > --- On Sun, 10/25/09, TW <tw853@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > TW <tw853@>> > > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich> > > @gro ups.com> > > Sunday, October 25, 2009, 12:33 PM> > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > Without analysing the cuspal sub lord, it is not a proper KP analysis because the cuspal sub lords indicate whether a matter is promised or not. If it is not promised, the DBAS or transit cannot make the matter to happen.> > > > > > Regards,> > > TW> > > > > > @gro ups.com, "G" <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sheetal ji,> > > > > > > > I use house cusp lords in my analysis only when I do horary astrology. While analyzing natal chart I do not use house cusps because it is very difficult to get correct house cusps for all 12 houses in a chart. Sometimes the house cusp changes even if the birth time changes by 10 seconds. > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Gurmeet> > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Sheetal <ratnamalag@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sir> > > > > > > > > > I have got one query. If 2nd sub is in star of planet in 8th house and sub> > > > > of of planet in 6th then what will be the result?> > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > Dr Sheetal> > > > > .> > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 6:34 PM, G <hbk1hbk_2100@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Lajmi ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > I have many clients in US who are very wealthy, billionaires. One thing I> > > > > > have observed again and again in their charts that the lord of 7th and 8th> > > > > > house was in the constellation of lord of 6th house or 2nd house. This is in> > > > > > addition to what Lajmi ji has mentioned in his message. The lord of 7th> > > > > > house represents your opponent and the lord of your 8th house represents> > > > > > your opponents wealth. When these two lords are in the constellation of your> > > > > > lord of 6th or 2nd, they will bring gains to the native always, as their> > > > > > opponents will always loose, because your 6th house is your opponents 12th> > > > > > house of loss, and your 2nd house is your opponents 8th house.> > > > > >> > > > > > Best Wishes> > > > > >> > > > > > G. Singh> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>, Yogesh> > > > > > Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dears Prem & Sharma,> > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ First of> > > > > > all,find out whether the Lagna promises it...or not...> > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ If the> > > > > > Lord of the Lagna is of a very strong level,byÃÆ'‚ occupying the> > > > > > houses,II,III, IX,X.XI & IV, and tenanting the stars of the lords of the> > > > > > Houses II,X & XI...> > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ Then,check> > > > > > the status of the lords of the houses X,XI,II,and the IXth,on similar> > > > > > fashion...> > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ If ALL> > > > > > these lords' strengthsÃÆ'‚ are of a High Level,(pl.also reject the lords of the> > > > > > appropriate XI,IX, & VII houses - the Badhaka planets - and then apply> > > > > > this),then alone one can say with supreme confidence that one will get> > > > > > Name,Fame,and Wealth in abundance... .(there are 4 levels,which have been> > > > > > described as: the Highest level,the other levels are the Strong,the> > > > > > Middle,and the Low levels and accordingly one can with certainty determine> > > > > > the level of wealth,name, fame etc., that one is destined to enjoy as per his> > > > > > Destiny/Fate. ..in his present life...> > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ The above> > > > > > is strictly as per K.P.Rules... .and has been extensively tested and found to> > > > > > be very correct and accurate an assessment.. .> > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ For further> > > > > > details and the finer points please refer :> > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ "Astrosecrets & Krishnamurthi Padhdhati by the late Shri> > > > > > M.P.Shanmugham. .."> > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ Edited by> > > > > > Shri K.Subramaniam.> > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ With the> > > > > > very best wishes,> > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ Yogesh> > > > > > Lajmi.> > > > > > >> > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚> > > > > > GOOD LUCK !> > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/24/09, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ >> > > > > >> > > > > > > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is> > > > > > rich> > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>> > > > > > > Saturday, October 24, 2009, 4:14 AM> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > PersonÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢s Finance and Fortune through Horoscope> > > > > >> > > > > > > http://www.love- match-astrology. com/personalitie s-of-astrology-> > > > > > signs.html> > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚> > > > > >> > > > > > > http://www.psychic- elite.com/ index.php? page=readings_ for_business_> > > > > > commerce_ and_finance> > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚> > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > Pram> > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com>> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com>> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ~~~ Om Sai Namo Namaha ~~~> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear M Sharma JI> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Good Morning> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > For fast glance of the person you can get it from Reader 6 page 113 topic> > > > > > Finance and Fortune. Procedure (If the SubLord of the second cusp is> > > > > > deposited in the star of the planet situated in which sign)> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > Pram Chopra> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:48 PM, mssumich mssumich > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Respected members> > > > > > > Do we have tools in KP astrology to ascertain if a person is very> > > > > > wealthy, extremely wealthy, average, poor etc (financial condition)? In> > > > > > vedic astrology, one can say that there are dhana yogas and try to find out> > > > > > if there are multiple dhana yogas etc (I don't think there is any way to> > > > > > quantify). Trying to find out from learned members..> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Please see this chart...> > > > > > > Nov 19, 1938> > > > > > > 8:50am> > > > > > > Cincinatti USA> > > > > > > Lagna is Scorpio 019-56-51> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > M.Sharma> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --> > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > TPC> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --> > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > TPC> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --> > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > TPC> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Keep up with people you care about with India Mail. Learn how. http://in.overview. mail.. com/connectmore> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 It is published in Nov 09 starteller magazine. You can also see it on my website www.vedicnakshatras.com Regards G. Singh , hardeep singh <bkhardeep wrote: > > will you please send your obama analyses in attached file >  > nagi > > --- On Tue, 27/10/09, G <hbk1hbk_2100 wrote: > > > G <hbk1hbk_2100 > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich > > Tuesday, 27 October, 2009, 3:43 AM > > >  > > > > In natal astrology I use KP system minus House cusp sub lord analysis. Because even if you are very good at rectifying birth time still it is very difficult to get all 12 house cusp sub lords right in a natal chart. So you do not want to base your analysis on unreliable data. I have seen in this group members are so quick on analyzing charts only based on house cusp sub lords. They give predictions and later they come to know that they were working with incorrect birth data. > > Also in a country like US you can not give negative predictions to your clients. You can not tell someone that they will not get married even if you know that is the real answer. You find out the significators of 2, 5, 7, 11 and see when their dasha bhukti and anthara's are active, and say that this is the period if the person tries they can get married. So you give them some hope. You tell them the difficulties in their chart as well why it may be difficult to get married. But still give them some hope. > > You can see my Obama analysis in November starteller magazine. I did not use house cusp sub lords in my analysis. My article is also publshed on Oped News in US. > > Thanks > > Gurmeet > > > @gro ups.com, Santhosh <santhosh10@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear G, > > in your experience how then do you proceed if you suspect the TOb may not be correct. i understand that in horarary, there is no problem. but for natal chart are you saying you just use traditional astrology alone? > > santhosh > > > >  > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > G <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...> > > @gro ups.com > > Tue, 27 October, 2009 3:52:43 AM > > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich > > > >  > > I am not saying that you guys are wrong. But the house cusp sub lords for all 12 house are very rarely correct in a natal chart. But in Horary astrology they are always accurate. > > > > Do you want to work with incorrect house cusp sub lords and give wrong predictions to people. In my case I am still not sure whether my 12th house cusp is saturn or jupiter after lajmi ji and I have spend so much time to rectify my birth time. > > > > G. Singh > > > > @gro ups..com, Sheetal <ratnamalag@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Mr G Singh > > > > > > I think you are talking about traditional vedic astrology and sign lord. But > > > in Kp is about cuspal sublord so it is given importance in this group. Do u > > > want to say cuspal sublord and u r writting cusp lord? I am really confused > > > what u write. In kp, cuspal sublord has much more imporatnce than saying yes > > > or no. eg As it can be the significator of the same cusp too, if it is > > > strong means no planets in its star Anyways, if u give ur method how u reach > > > the conclusion, it will be practically usefull for all. > > > > > > Regards > > > Dr Sheetal > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 7:26 PM, G <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with you.. But I have seen especially in this group that house cusp > > > > lord is given too much importance, and most of the time you could be working > > > > with a wrong cusp lord. You can still have house cusp lord wrong even if you > > > > are very good at rectifying the birth time. The house cusp lord only tells > > > > the yes/no answer, nothing more than that for example the 7th house cusp > > > > lord will tell you whether the marriage is promised or not.. > > > > > > > > I am not saying that we should not use house cusp lords but I tend to use > > > > them in horary astrology because they are always accurate in horary > > > > astrology. But they could be very easily inaccurate in natal chart. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>, " TW " > > > > <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > Without analysing the cuspal sub lord, it is not a proper KP analysis > > > > because the cuspal sub lords indicate whether a matter is promised or not. > > > > If it is not promised, the DBAS or transit cannot make the matter to happen. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > TW > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>, " G " > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sheetal ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > I use house cusp lords in my analysis only when I do horary astrology. > > > > While analyzing natal chart I do not use house cusps because it is very > > > > difficult to get correct house cusps for all 12 houses in a chart. Sometimes > > > > the house cusp changes even if the birth time changes by 10 seconds. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Gurmeet > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>, > > > > Sheetal <ratnamalag@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have got one query. If 2nd sub is in star of planet in 8th house > > > > and sub > > > > > > > of of planet in 6th then what will be the result? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Dr Sheetal > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 6:34 PM, G <hbk1hbk_2100@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lajmi ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have many clients in US who are very wealthy, billionaires. One > > > > thing I > > > > > > > > have observed again and again in their charts that the lord of 7th > > > > and 8th > > > > > > > > house was in the constellation of lord of 6th house or 2nd house. > > > > This is in > > > > > > > > addition to what Lajmi ji has mentioned in his message. The lord of > > > > 7th > > > > > > > > house represents your opponent and the lord of your 8th house > > > > represents > > > > > > > > your opponents wealth. When these two lords are in the > > > > constellation of your > > > > > > > > lord of 6th or 2nd, they will bring gains to the native always, as > > > > their > > > > > > > > opponents will always loose, because your 6th house is your > > > > opponents 12th > > > > > > > > house of loss, and your 2nd house is your opponents 8th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G.. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com><k_p_ system% > > > > 40. . com>, Yogesh > > > > > > > > Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dears Prem & Sharma, > > > > > > > > >                                 > > > > First of > > > > > > > > all,find out whether the Lagna promises it...or not... > > > > > > > > >                                 > > > > If the > > > > > > > > Lord of the Lagna is of a very strong level,by occupying the > > > > > > > > houses,II,III, IX,X.XI & IV, and tenanting the stars of the lords of > > > > the > > > > > > > > Houses II,X & XI.... > > > > > > > > >                                > > > > Then,check > > > > > > > > the status of the lords of the houses X,XI,II,and the IXth,on > > > > similar > > > > > > > > fashion... > > > > > > > > >                                If > > > > ALL > > > > > > > > these lords' strengths are of a High Level,(pl.also reject the > > > > lords of the > > > > > > > > appropriate XI,IX, & VII houses - the Badhaka planets - and then > > > > apply > > > > > > > > this),then alone one can say with supreme confidence that one will > > > > get > > > > > > > > Name,Fame,and Wealth in abundance... .(there are 4 levels,which have > > > > been > > > > > > > > described as: the Highest level,the other levels are the Strong,the > > > > > > > > Middle,and the Low levels and accordingly one can with certainty > > > > determine > > > > > > > > the level of wealth,name, fame etc., that one is destined to enjoy > > > > as per his > > > > > > > > Destiny/Fate. ..in his present life... > > > > > > > > >                                The > > > > above > > > > > > > > is strictly as per K.P.Rules... .and has been extensively tested and > > > > found to > > > > > > > > be very correct and accurate an assessment.. . > > > > > > > > >                               For > > > > further > > > > > > > > details and the finer points please refer : > > > > > > > > >     " Astrosecrets & Krishnamurthi Padhdhati by the late Shri > > > > > > > > M.P.Shanmugham. ... " > > > > > > > > >                              Edited > > > > by > > > > > > > > Shri K.Subramaniam. > > > > > > > > >                               With > > > > the > > > > > > > > very best wishes, > > > > > > > > >                               > > > > Yogesh > > > > > > > > Lajmi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                   > > > >                  > > > > > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > >                            > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/24/09, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the > > > > person is > > > > > > > > rich > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com><k_p_ system% > > > > 40. com> > > > > > > > > > Saturday, October 24, 2009, 4:14 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Person’s Finance and Fortune through Horoscope > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.love- match-astrology. com/personalitie > > > > s-of-astrology- > > > > > > > > signs.html > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.psychic- elite.com/ index.php? page=readings_ > > > > for_business_ > > > > > > > > commerce_ and_finance > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > Pram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > > > > gmail.com> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > > > > gmail.com> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~ Om Sai Namo Namaha ~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear M Sharma JI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For fast glance of the person you can get it from Reader 6 page > > > > 113 topic > > > > > > > > Finance and Fortune. Procedure (If the SubLord of the second cusp > > > > is > > > > > > > > deposited in the star of the planet situated in which sign) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > Pram Chopra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:48 PM, mssumich <mssumich (AT) (DOT) com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected members > > > > > > > > > Do we have tools in KP astrology to ascertain if a person is very > > > > > > > > wealthy, extremely wealthy, average, poor etc (financial > > > > condition)? In > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, one can say that there are dhana yogas and try to > > > > find out > > > > > > > > if there are multiple dhana yogas etc (I don't think there is any > > > > way to > > > > > > > > quantify). Trying to find out from learned members.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please see this chart... > > > > > > > > > Nov 19, 1938 > > > > > > > > > 8:50am > > > > > > > > > Cincinatti USA > > > > > > > > > Lagna is Scorpio 019-56-51 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > M.Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > TPC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > TPC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > TPC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > India has a new look. Take a sneak peek http://in.. com/trynew > > > > > > > > > > > > > From cricket scores to your friends. 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Guest guest Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Dear learned freinds, I like to share details of my freind who is known to me for the past 25 years. He started his career as a sales representative in a books publishing company. Today he himself is a well known publishers and his worth is not less than 50 crores.He is having business all over the world. his date of birth22september 1954 place jodhpur. time ~15 --- On Tue, 27/10/09, G <hbk1hbk_2100 wrote: G <hbk1hbk_2100 Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich Date: Tuesday, 27 October, 2009, 3:54 AM Thank you Gurmeet@gro ups.com, Senthil <athi_ram@.. .> wrote:>> Dear G.Singh,>  > Well done. Continue your research and I wish you all success for your prediction. You may also post your new findings for our study and use.>  > GOOD LUCK!>  > Regards,>  > D.Senthil> > > --- On Sun, 10/25/09, G <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...> wrote:> > > G <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...>> Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich> @gro ups.com> Sunday, October 25, 2009, 6:43 AM> > >  > > > > Dear TW,> > I am sorry to say that I can not do that as I have signed a formal confidentiality agreement with them. These are the people who consult me on weekly basis. I have one Billionaire who had a team of astrologers, numerlogists, psychics, tarot card readers working for him. When he consulted me first time he did not tell me that he is a Billionaire. I analysed his chart and told him that he is very lucky and a very wealthy man. He used to consult me on regular basis. After working with me for 5 months he menioned to me that out of all astrologers, psychics, tarot card readers, numerlogists my analysis is the most accurate, and now he does not consult other astrologers, psychics, tarot card readers, numerlogists.> > This rule is not in KP books. I have done my own research. I was able to learn KP and do research very fast after I entered Jupiter Mahadasha. My astrology business is doing very well after I entered Mercury Bhukti. Both Jupiter and Mercury are in 2nd and 9th lord Mars constellation and as you know 9th house represents astrology and change in career.> > Regards> > G. Singh> > @gro ups.com, "TW" <tw853@> wrote:> >> > Dear G. Singh,> > > > Would appreciate if you can kindly post some birth details of the said billionaires (without name and POB for secrecy of astrologer-consulta nt relation) to study and learn by the KP rules practically for all of us other than here say. Because such kind of rule is really very interesting indeed since not found in KP or Vedic.> > > > Thanks and regards,> > TW> > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Punit Pandey <punitp@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Gurmeet ji,> > > > > > Interesting observation. Thanks for sharing.> > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > > > Punit Pandey> > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 6:34 PM, G <hbk1hbk_2100@ > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Lajmi ji,> > > >> > > > I have many clients in US who are very wealthy, billionaires. One thing I> > > > have observed again and again in their charts that the lord of 7th and 8th> > > > house was in the constellation of lord of 6th house or 2nd house. This is in> > > > addition to what Lajmi ji has mentioned in his message. The lord of 7th> > > > house represents your opponent and the lord of your 8th house represents> > > > your opponents wealth. When these two lords are in the constellation of your> > > > lord of 6th or 2nd, they will bring gains to the native always, as their> > > > opponents will always loose, because your 6th house is your opponents 12th> > > > house of loss, and your 2nd house is your opponents 8th house.> > > >> > > > Best Wishes> > > >> > > > G. Singh> > > >> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>, Yogesh> > > > Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dears Prem & Sharma,> > > > >                                 First of> > > > all,find out whether the Lagna promises it...or not...> > > > >                                 If the> > > > Lord of the Lagna is of a very strong level,by occupying the> > > > houses,II,III, IX,X.XI & IV, and tenanting the stars of the lords of the> > > > Houses II,X & XI...> > > > >                                Then,check> > > > the status of the lords of the houses X,XI,II,and the IXth,on similar> > > > fashion...> > > > >                                If ALL> > > > these lords' strengths are of a High Level,(pl.also reject the lords of the> > > > appropriate XI,IX, & VII houses - the Badhaka planets - and then apply> > > > this),then alone one can say with supreme confidence that one will get> > > > Name,Fame,and Wealth in abundance... .(there are 4 levels,which have been> > > > described as: the Highest level,the other levels are the Strong,the> > > > Middle,and the Low levels and accordingly one can with certainty determine> > > > the level of wealth,name, fame etc., that one is destined to enjoy as per his> > > > Destiny/Fate. ..in his present life...> > > > >                                The above> > > > is strictly as per K.P.Rules... .and has been extensively tested and found to> > > > be very correct and accurate an assessment.. .> > > > >                               For further> > > > details and the finer points please refer :> > > > >     "Astrosecrets & Krishnamurthi Padhdhati by the late Shri> > > > M.P.Shanmugham. .."> > > > >                              Edited by> > > > Shri K.Subramaniam.> > > > >                               With the> > > > very best wishes,> > > > >                               Yogesh> > > > Lajmi.> > > > >> > > >                                                   Â> > > > GOOD LUCK !> > > > >                           Â> > > > >> > > > > --- On Sat, 10/24/09, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ >> > > >> > > > > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is> > > > rich> > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>> > > > > Saturday, October 24, 2009, 4:14 AM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Â> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Person’s Finance and Fortune through Horoscope> > > >> > > > > http://www.love- match-astrology. com/personalitie s-of-astrology-> > > > signs.html> > > > > Â> > > >> > > > > http://www.psychic- elite.com/ index.php? page=readings_ for_business_> > > > commerce_ and_finance> > > > > Â> > > >> > > > > Thanks> > > > > Pram> > > > >> > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > ~~~ Om Sai Namo Namaha ~~~> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear M Sharma JI> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Good Morning> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > For fast glance of the person you can get it from Reader 6 page 113 topic> > > > Finance and Fortune. Procedure (If the SubLord of the second cusp is> > > > deposited in the star of the planet situated in which sign)> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Thanks> > > > > Pram Chopra> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:48 PM, mssumich <mssumich > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Â> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Respected members> > > > > Do we have tools in KP astrology to ascertain if a person is very> > > > wealthy, extremely wealthy, average, poor etc (financial condition)? In> > > > vedic astrology, one can say that there are dhana yogas and try to find out> > > > if there are multiple dhana yogas etc (I don't think there is any way to> > > > quantify). Trying to find out from learned members..> > > > >> > > > > Please see this chart...> > > > > Nov 19, 1938> > > > > 8:50am> > > > > Cincinatti USA> > > > > Lagna is Scorpio 019-56-51> > > > >> > > > > Thanks> > > > > M.Sharma> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --> > > > > Thanks> > > > > TPC> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --> > > > > Thanks> > > > > TPC> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --> > > > > Thanks> > > > > TPC> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > >> >> India has a new look. Take a sneak peek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 how will you argue for obama's nobale peace prize ? in your artical you have not made it clear on what basis one can predict whether the person will get any award ? it is only my curiousity not criticism, you have added a para that running period is good, but we readers want more out of it. regards nagi--- On Tue, 27/10/09, G <hbk1hbk_2100 wrote: G <hbk1hbk_2100 Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich Date: Tuesday, 27 October, 2009, 6:31 PM It is published in Nov 09 starteller magazine. You can also see it on my website www.vedicnakshatras .comRegardsG. Singh@gro ups.com, hardeep singh <bkhardeep@. ..> wrote:>> will you please send your obama analyses in attached file>  > nagi> > --- On Tue, 27/10/09, G <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...> wrote:> > > G <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...>> Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich> @gro ups.com> Tuesday, 27 October, 2009, 3:43 AM> > >  > > > > In natal astrology I use KP system minus House cusp sub lord analysis. Because even if you are very good at rectifying birth time still it is very difficult to get all 12 house cusp sub lords right in a natal chart. So you do not want to base your analysis on unreliable data. I have seen in this group members are so quick on analyzing charts only based on house cusp sub lords. They give predictions and later they come to know that they were working with incorrect birth data.> > Also in a country like US you can not give negative predictions to your clients. You can not tell someone that they will not get married even if you know that is the real answer. You find out the significators of 2, 5, 7, 11 and see when their dasha bhukti and anthara's are active, and say that this is the period if the person tries they can get married. So you give them some hope. You tell them the difficulties in their chart as well why it may be difficult to get married. But still give them some hope.> > You can see my Obama analysis in November starteller magazine. I did not use house cusp sub lords in my analysis. My article is also publshed on Oped News in US.> > Thanks> > Gurmeet> > > @gro ups.com, Santhosh <santhosh10@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear G,> > in your experience how then do you proceed if you suspect the TOb may not be correct. i understand that in horarary, there is no problem. but for natal chart are you saying you just use traditional astrology alone?> > santhosh> > > >  > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > G <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...>> > @gro ups.com> > Sent: Tue, 27 October, 2009 3:52:43 AM> > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich> > > >  > > I am not saying that you guys are wrong. But the house cusp sub lords for all 12 house are very rarely correct in a natal chart. But in Horary astrology they are always accurate. > > > > Do you want to work with incorrect house cusp sub lords and give wrong predictions to people. In my case I am still not sure whether my 12th house cusp is saturn or jupiter after lajmi ji and I have spend so much time to rectify my birth time. > > > > G. Singh> > > > @gro ups..com, Sheetal <ratnamalag@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Mr G Singh> > > > > > I think you are talking about traditional vedic astrology and sign lord. But> > > in Kp is about cuspal sublord so it is given importance in this group. Do u> > > want to say cuspal sublord and u r writting cusp lord? I am really confused> > > what u write. In kp, cuspal sublord has much more imporatnce than saying yes> > > or no. eg As it can be the significator of the same cusp too, if it is> > > strong means no planets in its star Anyways, if u give ur method how u reach> > > the conclusion, it will be practically usefull for all.> > > > > > Regards> > > Dr Sheetal> > > > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 7:26 PM, G <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > I agree with you.. But I have seen especially in this group that house cusp> > > > lord is given too much importance, and most of the time you could be working> > > > with a wrong cusp lord. You can still have house cusp lord wrong even if you> > > > are very good at rectifying the birth time. The house cusp lord only tells> > > > the yes/no answer, nothing more than that for example the 7th house cusp> > > > lord will tell you whether the marriage is promised or not..> > > >> > > > I am not saying that we should not use house cusp lords but I tend to use> > > > them in horary astrology because they are always accurate in horary> > > > astrology. But they could be very easily inaccurate in natal chart.> > > >> > > > Regards> > > >> > > > G. Singh> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>, "TW"> > > > <tw853@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > >> > > > > Without analysing the cuspal sub lord, it is not a proper KP analysis> > > > because the cuspal sub lords indicate whether a matter is promised or not.> > > > If it is not promised, the DBAS or transit cannot make the matter to happen.> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > TW> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>, "G"> > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Sheetal ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > I use house cusp lords in my analysis only when I do horary astrology.> > > > While analyzing natal chart I do not use house cusps because it is very> > > > difficult to get correct house cusps for all 12 houses in a chart. Sometimes> > > > the house cusp changes even if the birth time changes by 10 seconds.> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards> > > > > >> > > > > > Gurmeet> > > > > >> > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>,> > > > Sheetal <ratnamalag@ > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Sir> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I have got one query. If 2nd sub is in star of planet in 8th house> > > > and sub> > > > > > > of of planet in 6th then what will be the result?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > Dr Sheetal> > > > > > > .> > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 6:34 PM, G <hbk1hbk_2100@ > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Lajmi ji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I have many clients in US who are very wealthy, billionaires. One> > > > thing I> > > > > > > > have observed again and again in their charts that the lord of 7th> > > > and 8th> > > > > > > > house was in the constellation of lord of 6th house or 2nd house.> > > > This is in> > > > > > > > addition to what Lajmi ji has mentioned in his message. The lord of> > > > 7th> > > > > > > > house represents your opponent and the lord of your 8th house> > > > represents> > > > > > > > your opponents wealth. When these two lords are in the> > > > constellation of your> > > > > > > > lord of 6th or 2nd, they will bring gains to the native always, as> > > > their> > > > > > > > opponents will always loose, because your 6th house is your> > > > opponents 12th> > > > > > > > house of loss, and your 2nd house is your opponents 8th house.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Best Wishes> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > G.. Singh> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com><k_p_ system%> > > > 40. . com>, Yogesh> > > > > > > > Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dears Prem & Sharma,> > > > > > > > >                                Â> > > > First of> > > > > > > > all,find out whether the Lagna promises it...or not...> > > > > > > > >                                Â> > > > If the> > > > > > > > Lord of the Lagna is of a very strong level,by occupying the> > > > > > > > houses,II,III, IX,X.XI & IV, and tenanting the stars of the lords of> > > > the> > > > > > > > Houses II,X & XI....> > > > > > > > >                               Â> > > > Then,check> > > > > > > > the status of the lords of the houses X,XI,II,and the IXth,on> > > > similar> > > > > > > > fashion...> > > > > > > > >                                If> > > > ALL> > > > > > > > these lords' strengths are of a High Level,(pl.also reject the> > > > lords of the> > > > > > > > appropriate XI,IX, & VII houses - the Badhaka planets - and then> > > > apply> > > > > > > > this),then alone one can say with supreme confidence that one will> > > > get> > > > > > > > Name,Fame,and Wealth in abundance... .(there are 4 levels,which have> > > > been> > > > > > > > described as: the Highest level,the other levels are the Strong,the> > > > > > > > Middle,and the Low levels and accordingly one can with certainty> > > > determine> > > > > > > > the level of wealth,name, fame etc., that one is destined to enjoy> > > > as per his> > > > > > > > Destiny/Fate. ..in his present life...> > > > > > > > >                                The> > > > above> > > > > > > > is strictly as per K.P.Rules... .and has been extensively tested and> > > > found to> > > > > > > > be very correct and accurate an assessment.. .> > > > > > > > >                               For> > > > further> > > > > > > > details and the finer points please refer :> > > > > > > > >     "Astrosecrets & Krishnamurthi Padhdhati by the late Shri> > > > > > > > M.P.Shanmugham. ..."> > > > > > > > >                              Edited> > > > by> > > > > > > > Shri K.Subramaniam.> > > > > > > > >                               With> > > > the> > > > > > > > very best wishes,> > > > > > > > >                              Â> > > > Yogesh> > > > > > > > Lajmi.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >                                  Â> > > >                 Â> > > > > > > > GOOD LUCK !> > > > > > > > >                           Â> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/24/09, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the> > > > person is> > > > > > > > rich> > > > > > > > > To: @gro ups.com <% 40. com><k_p_ system%> > > > 40. com>> > > > > > > > > Saturday, October 24, 2009, 4:14 AM> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Â> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Person’s Finance and Fortune through Horoscope> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > http://www.love- match-astrology. com/personalitie> > > > s-of-astrology-> > > > > > > > signs.html> > > > > > > > > Â> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > http://www.psychic- elite.com/ index.php? page=readings_> > > > for_business_> > > > > > > > commerce_ and_finance> > > > > > > > > Â> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > > > Pram> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@> > > > gmail.com>> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@> > > > gmail.com>> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ~~~ Om Sai Namo Namaha ~~~> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear M Sharma JI> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Good Morning> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > For fast glance of the person you can get it from Reader 6 page> > > > 113 topic> > > > > > > > Finance and Fortune. Procedure (If the SubLord of the second cusp> > > > is> > > > > > > > deposited in the star of the planet situated in which sign)> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > > > Pram Chopra> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:48 PM, mssumich <mssumich >> > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Â> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Respected members> > > > > > > > > Do we have tools in KP astrology to ascertain if a person is very> > > > > > > > wealthy, extremely wealthy, average, poor etc (financial> > > > condition)? In> > > > > > > > vedic astrology, one can say that there are dhana yogas and try to> > > > find out> > > > > > > > if there are multiple dhana yogas etc (I don't think there is any> > > > way to> > > > > > > > quantify). Trying to find out from learned members..> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Please see this chart...> > > > > > > > > Nov 19, 1938> > > > > > > > > 8:50am> > > > > > > > > Cincinatti USA> > > > > > > > > Lagna is Scorpio 019-56-51> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > > > M.Sharma> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > > > TPC> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > > > TPC> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > > > TPC> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > India has a new look. Take a sneak peek http://in.. com/trynew> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From cricket scores to your friends. 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Guest guest Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 I do not disclose all my techniques in analysis. I mention only enough information to make it interesting. G. Singh , hardeep singh <bkhardeep wrote: > > how will you argue for obama's nobale peace prize ? >  > in your artical you have not made it clear on what basis one can predict whether the person will get any award ? >  > it is only my curiousity not criticism, >  > you have added a para that running period is good, but we readers want more out of it. >  > regards > nagi > > --- On Tue, 27/10/09, G <hbk1hbk_2100 wrote: > > > G <hbk1hbk_2100 > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich > > Tuesday, 27 October, 2009, 6:31 PM > > >  > > > > It is published in Nov 09 starteller magazine. You can also see it on my website www.vedicnakshatras .com > > Regards > > G. Singh > > @gro ups.com, hardeep singh <bkhardeep@ ..> wrote: > > > > will you please send your obama analyses in attached file > >  > > nagi > > > > --- On Tue, 27/10/09, G <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > G <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...> > > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich > > @gro ups.com > > Tuesday, 27 October, 2009, 3:43 AM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > In natal astrology I use KP system minus House cusp sub lord analysis. Because even if you are very good at rectifying birth time still it is very difficult to get all 12 house cusp sub lords right in a natal chart. So you do not want to base your analysis on unreliable data. I have seen in this group members are so quick on analyzing charts only based on house cusp sub lords. They give predictions and later they come to know that they were working with incorrect birth data. > > > > Also in a country like US you can not give negative predictions to your clients. You can not tell someone that they will not get married even if you know that is the real answer. You find out the significators of 2, 5, 7, 11 and see when their dasha bhukti and anthara's are active, and say that this is the period if the person tries they can get married. So you give them some hope. You tell them the difficulties in their chart as well why it may be difficult to get married. But still give them some hope. > > > > You can see my Obama analysis in November starteller magazine. I did not use house cusp sub lords in my analysis. My article is also publshed on Oped News in US. > > > > Thanks > > > > Gurmeet > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Santhosh <santhosh10@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear G, > > > in your experience how then do you proceed if you suspect the TOb may not be correct. i understand that in horarary, there is no problem. but for natal chart are you saying you just use traditional astrology alone? > > > santhosh > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > G <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...> > > > @gro ups.com > > > Tue, 27 October, 2009 3:52:43 AM > > > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich > > > > > >  > > > I am not saying that you guys are wrong. But the house cusp sub lords for all 12 house are very rarely correct in a natal chart. But in Horary astrology they are always accurate. > > > > > > Do you want to work with incorrect house cusp sub lords and give wrong predictions to people. In my case I am still not sure whether my 12th house cusp is saturn or jupiter after lajmi ji and I have spend so much time to rectify my birth time. > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > @gro ups..com, Sheetal <ratnamalag@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Mr G Singh > > > > > > > > I think you are talking about traditional vedic astrology and sign lord. But > > > > in Kp is about cuspal sublord so it is given importance in this group. Do u > > > > want to say cuspal sublord and u r writting cusp lord? I am really confused > > > > what u write. In kp, cuspal sublord has much more imporatnce than saying yes > > > > or no. eg As it can be the significator of the same cusp too, if it is > > > > strong means no planets in its star Anyways, if u give ur method how u reach > > > > the conclusion, it will be practically usefull for all. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Dr Sheetal > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 7:26 PM, G <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with you.. But I have seen especially in this group that house cusp > > > > > lord is given too much importance, and most of the time you could be working > > > > > with a wrong cusp lord. You can still have house cusp lord wrong even if you > > > > > are very good at rectifying the birth time. The house cusp lord only tells > > > > > the yes/no answer, nothing more than that for example the 7th house cusp > > > > > lord will tell you whether the marriage is promised or not.. > > > > > > > > > > I am not saying that we should not use house cusp lords but I tend to use > > > > > them in horary astrology because they are always accurate in horary > > > > > astrology. But they could be very easily inaccurate in natal chart. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>, " TW " > > > > > <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > Without analysing the cuspal sub lord, it is not a proper KP analysis > > > > > because the cuspal sub lords indicate whether a matter is promised or not. > > > > > If it is not promised, the DBAS or transit cannot make the matter to happen. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > TW > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>, " G " > > > > > <hbk1hbk_2100@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sheetal ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I use house cusp lords in my analysis only when I do horary astrology. > > > > > While analyzing natal chart I do not use house cusps because it is very > > > > > difficult to get correct house cusps for all 12 houses in a chart. Sometimes > > > > > the house cusp changes even if the birth time changes by 10 seconds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gurmeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>, > > > > > Sheetal <ratnamalag@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have got one query. If 2nd sub is in star of planet in 8th house > > > > > and sub > > > > > > > > of of planet in 6th then what will be the result? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Dr Sheetal > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 6:34 PM, G <hbk1hbk_2100@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lajmi ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have many clients in US who are very wealthy, billionaires. One > > > > > thing I > > > > > > > > > have observed again and again in their charts that the lord of 7th > > > > > and 8th > > > > > > > > > house was in the constellation of lord of 6th house or 2nd house. > > > > > This is in > > > > > > > > > addition to what Lajmi ji has mentioned in his message. The lord of > > > > > 7th > > > > > > > > > house represents your opponent and the lord of your 8th house > > > > > represents > > > > > > > > > your opponents wealth. When these two lords are in the > > > > > constellation of your > > > > > > > > > lord of 6th or 2nd, they will bring gains to the native always, as > > > > > their > > > > > > > > > opponents will always loose, because your 6th house is your > > > > > opponents 12th > > > > > > > > > house of loss, and your 2nd house is your opponents 8th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G.. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com><k_p_ system% > > > > > 40. . com>, Yogesh > > > > > > > > > Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dears Prem & Sharma, > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > First of > > > > > > > > > all,find out whether the Lagna promises it...or not... > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > If the > > > > > > > > > Lord of the Lagna is of a very strong level,byÃÆ'‚ occupying the > > > > > > > > > houses,II,III, IX,X.XI & IV, and tenanting the stars of the lords of > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Houses II,X & XI.... > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > Then,check > > > > > > > > > the status of the lords of the houses X,XI,II,and the IXth,on > > > > > similar > > > > > > > > > fashion... > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ If > > > > > ALL > > > > > > > > > these lords' strengthsÃÆ'‚ are of a High Level,(pl.also reject the > > > > > lords of the > > > > > > > > > appropriate XI,IX, & VII houses - the Badhaka planets - and then > > > > > apply > > > > > > > > > this),then alone one can say with supreme confidence that one will > > > > > get > > > > > > > > > Name,Fame,and Wealth in abundance... .(there are 4 levels,which have > > > > > been > > > > > > > > > described as: the Highest level,the other levels are the Strong,the > > > > > > > > > Middle,and the Low levels and accordingly one can with certainty > > > > > determine > > > > > > > > > the level of wealth,name, fame etc., that one is destined to enjoy > > > > > as per his > > > > > > > > > Destiny/Fate. ..in his present life... > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ The > > > > > above > > > > > > > > > is strictly as per K.P.Rules... .and has been extensively tested and > > > > > found to > > > > > > > > > be very correct and accurate an assessment.. . > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ For > > > > > further > > > > > > > > > details and the finer points please refer : > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ " Astrosecrets & Krishnamurthi Padhdhati by the late Shri > > > > > > > > > M.P.Shanmugham. ... " > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ Edited > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > Shri K.Subramaniam. > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ With > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > very best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > Yogesh > > > > > > > > > Lajmi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/24/09, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the > > > > > person is > > > > > > > > > rich > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com><k_p_ system% > > > > > 40. com> > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, October 24, 2009, 4:14 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PersonÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢s Finance and Fortune through Horoscope > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.love- match-astrology. com/personalitie > > > > > s-of-astrology- > > > > > > > > > signs.html > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.psychic- elite.com/ index.php? page=readings_ > > > > > for_business_ > > > > > > > > > commerce_ and_finance > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > Pram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > > > > > gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > > > > > gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~ Om Sai Namo Namaha ~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear M Sharma JI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For fast glance of the person you can get it from Reader 6 page > > > > > 113 topic > > > > > > > > > Finance and Fortune. Procedure (If the SubLord of the second cusp > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > deposited in the star of the planet situated in which sign) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > Pram Chopra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:48 PM, mssumich <mssumich (AT) (DOT) com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected members > > > > > > > > > > Do we have tools in KP astrology to ascertain if a person is very > > > > > > > > > wealthy, extremely wealthy, average, poor etc (financial > > > > > condition)? In > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, one can say that there are dhana yogas and try to > > > > > find out > > > > > > > > > if there are multiple dhana yogas etc (I don't think there is any > > > > > way to > > > > > > > > > quantify). Trying to find out from learned members.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please see this chart... > > > > > > > > > > Nov 19, 1938 > > > > > > > > > > 8:50am > > > > > > > > > > Cincinatti USA > > > > > > > > > > Lagna is Scorpio 019-56-51 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > M.Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > TPC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > TPC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > TPC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > India has a new look. 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Guest guest Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Can you please clarify the time of birth again santhosh sunil paul <delhi1955 Sent: Wed, 28 October, 2009 4:36:00 PMRe: Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich Dear learned freinds, I like to share details of my freind who is known to me for the past 25 years. He started his career as a sales representative in a books publishing company. Today he himself is a well known publishers and his worth is not less than 50 crores.He is having business all over the world. his date of birth22september 1954 place jodhpur. time ~15 --- On Tue, 27/10/09, G <hbk1hbk_2100@ > wrote: G <hbk1hbk_2100@ > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich@gro ups.comTuesday, 27 October, 2009, 3:54 AM Thank you Gurmeet@gro ups.com, Senthil <athi_ram@.. .> wrote:>> Dear G.Singh,>  > Well done. Continue your research and I wish you all success for your prediction. You may also post your new findings for our study and use.>  > GOOD LUCK!>  > Regards,>  > D.Senthil> > > --- On Sun, 10/25/09, G <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...> wrote:> > > G <hbk1hbk_2100@ ...>> Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is rich> @gro ups.com> Sunday, October 25, 2009, 6:43 AM> > >  > > > > Dear TW,> > I am sorry to say that I can not do that as I have signed a formal confidentiality agreement with them. These are the people who consult me on weekly basis. I have one Billionaire who had a team of astrologers, numerlogists, psychics, tarot card readers working for him. When he consulted me first time he did not tell me that he is a Billionaire. I analysed his chart and told him that he is very lucky and a very wealthy man. He used to consult me on regular basis. After working with me for 5 months he menioned to me that out of all astrologers, psychics, tarot card readers, numerlogists my analysis is the most accurate, and now he does not consult other astrologers, psychics, tarot card readers, numerlogists.> > This rule is not in KP books. I have done my own research. I was able to learn KP and do research very fast after I entered Jupiter Mahadasha. My astrology business is doing very well after I entered Mercury Bhukti. Both Jupiter and Mercury are in 2nd and 9th lord Mars constellation and as you know 9th house represents astrology and change in career.> > Regards> > G. Singh> > @gro ups.com, "TW" <tw853@> wrote:> >> > Dear G. Singh,> > > > Would appreciate if you can kindly post some birth details of the said billionaires (without name and POB for secrecy of astrologer-consulta nt relation) to study and learn by the KP rules practically for all of us other than here say. Because such kind of rule is really very interesting indeed since not found in KP or Vedic.> > > > Thanks and regards,> > TW> > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Punit Pandey <punitp@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Gurmeet ji,> > > > > > Interesting observation. Thanks for sharing.> > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > > > Punit Pandey> > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 6:34 PM, G <hbk1hbk_2100@ > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Lajmi ji,> > > >> > > > I have many clients in US who are very wealthy, billionaires. One thing I> > > > have observed again and again in their charts that the lord of 7th and 8th> > > > house was in the constellation of lord of 6th house or 2nd house. This is in> > > > addition to what Lajmi ji has mentioned in his message. The lord of 7th> > > > house represents your opponent and the lord of your 8th house represents> > > > your opponents wealth. When these two lords are in the constellation of your> > > > lord of 6th or 2nd, they will bring gains to the native always, as their> > > > opponents will always loose, because your 6th house is your opponents 12th> > > > house of loss, and your 2nd house is your opponents 8th house.> > > >> > > > Best Wishes> > > >> > > > G. Singh> > > >> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>, Yogesh> > > > Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dears Prem & Sharma,> > > > >                                 First of> > > > all,find out whether the Lagna promises it...or not....> > > > >                                 If the> > > > Lord of the Lagna is of a very strong level,by occupying the> > > > houses,II,III, IX,X.XI & IV, and tenanting the stars of the lords of the> > > > Houses II,X & XI...> > > > >                                Then,check> > > > the status of the lords of the houses X,XI,II,and the IXth,on similar> > > > fashion...> > > > >                                If ALL> > > > these lords' strengths are of a High Level,(pl.also reject the lords of the> > > > appropriate XI,IX, & VII houses - the Badhaka planets - and then apply> > > > this),then alone one can say with supreme confidence that one will get> > > > Name,Fame,and Wealth in abundance... .(there are 4 levels,which have been> > > > described as: the Highest level,the other levels are the Strong,the> > > > Middle,and the Low levels and accordingly one can with certainty determine> > > > the level of wealth,name, fame etc., that one is destined to enjoy as per his> > > > Destiny/Fate. ..in his present life...> > > > >                                The above> > > > is strictly as per K.P.Rules... .and has been extensively tested and found to> > > > be very correct and accurate an assessment.. .> > > > >                               For further> > > > details and the finer points please refer :> > > > >     "Astrosecrets & Krishnamurthi Padhdhati by the late Shri> > > > M.P.Shanmugham. .."> > > > >                              Edited by> > > > Shri K.Subramaniam.> > > > >                               With the> > > > very best wishes,> > > > >                               Yogesh> > > > Lajmi.> > > > >> > > >                                                   Â> > > > GOOD LUCK !> > > > >                           Â> > > > >> > > > > --- On Sat, 10/24/09, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ >> > > >> > > > > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is> > > > rich> > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>> > > > > Saturday, October 24, 2009, 4:14 AM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Â> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Person’s Finance and Fortune through Horoscope> > > >> > > > > http://www.love- match-astrology. com/personalitie s-of-astrology-> > > > signs.html> > > > > Â> > > >> > > > > http://www.psychic- elite.com/ index.php? page=readings_ for_business_> > > > commerce_ and_finance> > > > > Â> > > >> > > > > Thanks> > > > > Pram> > > > >> > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > ~~~ Om Sai Namo Namaha ~~~> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear M Sharma JI> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Good Morning> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > For fast glance of the person you can get it from Reader 6 page 113 topic> > > > Finance and Fortune. Procedure (If the SubLord of the second cusp is> > > > deposited in the star of the planet situated in which sign)> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Thanks> > > > > Pram Chopra> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:48 PM, mssumich <mssumich > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Â> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Respected members> > > > > Do we have tools in KP astrology to ascertain if a person is very> > > > wealthy, extremely wealthy, average, poor etc (financial condition)? In> > > > vedic astrology, one can say that there are dhana yogas and try to find out> > > > if there are multiple dhana yogas etc (I don't think there is any way to> > > > quantify). Trying to find out from learned members..> > > > >> > > > > Please see this chart...> > > > > Nov 19, 1938> > > > > 8:50am> > > > > Cincinatti USA> > > > > Lagna is Scorpio 019-56-51> > > > >> > > > > Thanks> > > > > M.Sharma> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --> > > > > Thanks> > > > > TPC> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --> > > > > Thanks> > > > > TPC> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --> > > > > Thanks> > > > > TPC> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > >> >> India has a new look. Take a sneak peek. From cricket scores to your friends. Try the India Homepage! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 /messages/20315 · Jyotish (Vedic Astrology) and Remedies , " G " <hbk1hbk_2100 wrote: > > Dear TW, > > I am sorry to say that I can not do that as I have signed a formal confidentiality agreement with them. These are the people who consult me on weekly basis. I have one Billionaire who had a team of astrologers, numerlogists, psychics, tarot card readers working for him. When he consulted me first time he did not tell me that he is a Billionaire. I analysed his chart and told him that he is very lucky and a very wealthy man. He used to consult me on regular basis. After working with me for 5 months he menioned to me that out of all astrologers, psychics, tarot card readers, numerlogists my analysis is the most accurate, and now he does not consult other astrologers, psychics, tarot card readers, numerlogists. > > This rule is not in KP books. I have done my own research. I was able to learn KP and do research very fast after I entered Jupiter Mahadasha. My astrology business is doing very well after I entered Mercury Bhukti. Both Jupiter and Mercury are in 2nd and 9th lord Mars constellation and as you know 9th house represents astrology and change in career. > > Regards > > G. Singh > > , " TW " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > Dear G. Singh, > > > > Would appreciate if you can kindly post some birth details of the said billionaires (without name and POB for secrecy of astrologer-consultant relation) to study and learn by the KP rules practically for all of us other than here say. Because such kind of rule is really very interesting indeed since not found in KP or Vedic. > > > > Thanks and regards, > > TW > > > > > > > > , Punit Pandey <punitp@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Gurmeet ji, > > > > > > Interesting observation. Thanks for sharing. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 6:34 PM, G <hbk1hbk_2100@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lajmi ji, > > > > > > > > I have many clients in US who are very wealthy, billionaires. One thing I > > > > have observed again and again in their charts that the lord of 7th and 8th > > > > house was in the constellation of lord of 6th house or 2nd house. This is in > > > > addition to what Lajmi ji has mentioned in his message. The lord of 7th > > > > house represents your opponent and the lord of your 8th house represents > > > > your opponents wealth. When these two lords are in the constellation of your > > > > lord of 6th or 2nd, they will bring gains to the native always, as their > > > > opponents will always loose, because your 6th house is your opponents 12th > > > > house of loss, and your 2nd house is your opponents 8th house. > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > > > G. Singh > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, Yogesh > > > > Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dears Prem & Sharma, > > > > >                                 First of > > > > all,find out whether the Lagna promises it...or not... > > > > >                                 If the > > > > Lord of the Lagna is of a very strong level,by occupying the > > > > houses,II,III,IX,X.XI & IV, and tenanting the stars of the lords of the > > > > Houses II,X & XI... > > > > >                                Then,check > > > > the status of the lords of the houses X,XI,II,and the IXth,on similar > > > > fashion... > > > > >                                If ALL > > > > these lords' strengths are of a High Level,(pl.also reject the lords of the > > > > appropriate XI,IX, & VII houses - the Badhaka planets - and then apply > > > > this),then alone one can say with supreme confidence that one will get > > > > Name,Fame,and Wealth in abundance....(there are 4 levels,which have been > > > > described as: the Highest level,the other levels are the Strong,the > > > > Middle,and the Low levels and accordingly one can with certainty determine > > > > the level of wealth,name,fame etc., that one is destined to enjoy as per his > > > > Destiny/Fate...in his present life... > > > > >                                The above > > > > is strictly as per K.P.Rules....and has been extensively tested and found to > > > > be very correct and accurate an assessment... > > > > >                               For further > > > > details and the finer points please refer : > > > > >     " Astrosecrets & Krishnamurthi Padhdhati by the late Shri > > > > M.P.Shanmugham... " > > > > >                              Edited by > > > > Shri K.Subramaniam. > > > > >                               With the > > > > very best wishes, > > > > >                               Yogesh > > > > Lajmi. > > > > > > > > >                                                    > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > >                            > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/24/09, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@> > > > > > > > > > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is > > > > rich > > > > > <%40> > > > > > Saturday, October 24, 2009, 4:14 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Person’s Finance and Fortune through Horoscope > > > > > > > > > http://www.love- match-astrology. com/personalitie s-of-astrology- > > > > signs.html > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > http://www.psychic- elite.com/ index.php? page=readings_ for_business_ > > > > commerce_ and_finance > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Pram > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ~~~ Om Sai Namo Namaha ~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear M Sharma JI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Morning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For fast glance of the person you can get it from Reader 6 page 113 topic > > > > Finance and Fortune. Procedure (If the SubLord of the second cusp is > > > > deposited in the star of the planet situated in which sign) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Pram Chopra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:48 PM, mssumich <mssumich > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected members > > > > > Do we have tools in KP astrology to ascertain if a person is very > > > > wealthy, extremely wealthy, average, poor etc (financial condition)? In > > > > vedic astrology, one can say that there are dhana yogas and try to find out > > > > if there are multiple dhana yogas etc (I don't think there is any way to > > > > quantify). Trying to find out from learned members.. > > > > > > > > > > Please see this chart... > > > > > Nov 19, 1938 > > > > > 8:50am > > > > > Cincinatti USA > > > > > Lagna is Scorpio 019-56-51 > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > M.Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Thanks > > > > > TPC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Thanks > > > > > TPC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Thanks > > > > > TPC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Dear Mr. Singh, Can you please elaborate, if the 8L is connected with 2H like: 8L in the planet's star occupying 2H. 8s/l in the planet's star occupying 2H. Will the result be same? Kindly check in the dob: 25.5.1973, 10.59 PM(IST-rectified), Meerut, U. P. India. Would like to get enlightened on it. with regards, Anurodh On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 10:25 AM, TW <tw853 wrote: /messages/20315 · Jyotish (Vedic Astrology) and Remedies , " G " <hbk1hbk_2100 wrote:>> Dear TW,> > I am sorry to say that I can not do that as I have signed a formal confidentiality agreement with them. These are the people who consult me on weekly basis. I have one Billionaire who had a team of astrologers, numerlogists, psychics, tarot card readers working for him. When he consulted me first time he did not tell me that he is a Billionaire. I analysed his chart and told him that he is very lucky and a very wealthy man. He used to consult me on regular basis. After working with me for 5 months he menioned to me that out of all astrologers, psychics, tarot card readers, numerlogists my analysis is the most accurate, and now he does not consult other astrologers, psychics, tarot card readers, numerlogists. > > This rule is not in KP books. I have done my own research. I was able to learn KP and do research very fast after I entered Jupiter Mahadasha. My astrology business is doing very well after I entered Mercury Bhukti. Both Jupiter and Mercury are in 2nd and 9th lord Mars constellation and as you know 9th house represents astrology and change in career. > > Regards> > G. Singh> > , " TW " <tw853@> wrote:> >> > Dear G. Singh, > > > > Would appreciate if you can kindly post some birth details of the said billionaires (without name and POB for secrecy of astrologer-consultant relation) to study and learn by the KP rules practically for all of us other than here say. Because such kind of rule is really very interesting indeed since not found in KP or Vedic. > > > > Thanks and regards,> > TW> > > > > > > > , Punit Pandey <punitp@> wrote: > > >> > > Dear Gurmeet ji,> > > > > > Interesting observation. Thanks for sharing.> > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 6:34 PM, G <hbk1hbk_2100@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Lajmi ji, > > > >> > > > I have many clients in US who are very wealthy, billionaires. One thing I> > > > have observed again and again in their charts that the lord of 7th and 8th> > > > house was in the constellation of lord of 6th house or 2nd house. This is in > > > > addition to what Lajmi ji has mentioned in his message. The lord of 7th> > > > house represents your opponent and the lord of your 8th house represents> > > > your opponents wealth. When these two lords are in the constellation of your > > > > lord of 6th or 2nd, they will bring gains to the native always, as their> > > > opponents will always loose, because your 6th house is your opponents 12th> > > > house of loss, and your 2nd house is your opponents 8th house. > > > >> > > > Best Wishes> > > >> > > > G. Singh> > > >> > > >> > > > <%40>, Yogesh > > > > Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dears Prem & Sharma,> > > > >                                 First of > > > > all,find out whether the Lagna promises it...or not...> > > > >                                 If the> > > > Lord of the Lagna is of a very strong level,by occupying the > > > > houses,II,III,IX,X.XI & IV, and tenanting the stars of the lords of the> > > > Houses II,X & XI...> > > > >                                Then,check > > > > the status of the lords of the houses X,XI,II,and the IXth,on similar> > > > fashion...> > > > >                                If ALL > > > > these lords' strengths are of a High Level,(pl.also reject the lords of the> > > > appropriate XI,IX, & VII houses - the Badhaka planets - and then apply> > > > this),then alone one can say with supreme confidence that one will get > > > > Name,Fame,and Wealth in abundance....(there are 4 levels,which have been> > > > described as: the Highest level,the other levels are the Strong,the> > > > Middle,and the Low levels and accordingly one can with certainty determine > > > > the level of wealth,name,fame etc., that one is destined to enjoy as per his> > > > Destiny/Fate...in his present life...> > > > >                                The above > > > > is strictly as per K.P.Rules....and has been extensively tested and found to> > > > be very correct and accurate an assessment...> > > > >                               For further > > > > details and the finer points please refer :> > > > >     " Astrosecrets & Krishnamurthi Padhdhati by the late Shri> > > > M.P.Shanmugham... " > > > > >                              Edited by > > > > Shri K.Subramaniam.> > > > >                               With the> > > > very best wishes,> > > > >                               Yogesh > > > > Lajmi.> > > > >> > > >                                                   Â> > > > GOOD LUCK !> > > > >                            > > > > >> > > > > --- On Sat, 10/24/09, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@> > > > >> > > > > Re: KP astrology - Can we tell if the person is> > > > rich> > > > > <%40> > > > > > Saturday, October 24, 2009, 4:14 AM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Â> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Person’s Finance and Fortune through Horoscope> > > >> > > > > http://www.love- match-astrology. com/personalitie s-of-astrology- > > > > signs.html> > > > > Â> > > >> > > > > http://www.psychic- elite.com/ index.php? page=readings_ for_business_ > > > > commerce_ and_finance> > > > > Â> > > >> > > > > Thanks> > > > > Pram> > > > >> > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > ~~~ Om Sai Namo Namaha ~~~ > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear M Sharma JI> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Good Morning> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > For fast glance of the person you can get it from Reader 6 page 113 topic> > > > Finance and Fortune. Procedure (If the SubLord of the second cusp is > > > > deposited in the star of the planet situated in which sign)> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Thanks> > > > > Pram Chopra> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:48 PM, mssumich <mssumich > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Â> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Respected members> > > > > Do we have tools in KP astrology to ascertain if a person is very > > > > wealthy, extremely wealthy, average, poor etc (financial condition)? In> > > > vedic astrology, one can say that there are dhana yogas and try to find out> > > > if there are multiple dhana yogas etc (I don't think there is any way to > > > > quantify). Trying to find out from learned members..> > > > >> > > > > Please see this chart...> > > > > Nov 19, 1938> > > > > 8:50am > > > > > Cincinatti USA> > > > > Lagna is Scorpio 019-56-51> > > > >> > > > > Thanks> > > > > M.Sharma> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --> > > > > Thanks> > > > > TPC> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --> > > > > Thanks> > > > > TPC> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > --> > > > > Thanks> > > > > TPC> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > -- Anurodh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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