Guest guest Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 Dear Aavesh Sir, Thanx for Summarizing the discussion, yes, I will put my views with my understanding and resoning. I m on vacation so, give me 2 - 3 days. however, i can explain thakur's case of jupitor's placement in mithuna, See, having study of one or two dozens horoscopes, I have realized - 1. Planet's placement in a house is most important. 2. On what sign a planet is posited further clasifies the result. 3. Next is aspects it's having or casting. 4. Last is ownership of houses. 5. Conjuncts give exclusive results (this is yet to understand ) 5'th is the house of sadhana, Guru is there in 5'th house on mithuna (couplehood) rasi, so, both thakur and maa shaarda were deeply immersed in doing sadhana, their sadhana gave them result as per the the significations of 5'th house, i mean the lordship of 11'th and 2nd, they got lot many qualified devoted spiritual shishya like their own son, they also got the financial support across the life effortlessly, though the thakur have been unattached to money and finance, but he has immense management skills for the finance and worldy affairs, pls. read the Sri Ramkrishna Leelamrit, what is funny in the group, people are discussing about thakur without reading his bio-graphy, by either applying their imagination or faith. Sri Ramkrishna taought maa, to board on the boat first of all and get down from a boat in the last. Regarding Swami Yogananda, his mind was conditioned to spread Kriya Yoga in US, to remove his doubts and strengthen his faith several abnormal people and miraculous conditions were created in his path, but, Yogananda didn't reach to culmination point of his own sadhana, he didn't attain the self realization, though he was aware of it by great guru's learnings. One has to sadhana himself, it cant be planted, however a task can be assigned, Swami Yognanada completed his assigned task beautifuly, there is no doubt but a self realization is what he missed.Same was the case of Osho Rajnish. But if u ask me about Lahiri Mahashaya, He had realization, Thakur had realization, but Vivekananda missed it for relatively a longer period, and when he got it, he left the world so silently wihout any noise. If u read his description of sukschha sharir and kaaran sharir and 5 mahabhutaas, given in Autobiography of Yogi, u will come to know his understanding is incorrect, he is trying to write something that he himself is not clear. He could leave that chapter. I will write later on 8'th house's role in spirituality, in fact, if u remember, once i wanted to understand the 8'th house some 4 - 5 months ago, I requested you to shed the light on it, u gave me some markers, a portion of my mind has been deeply working on that and luckily i got to see many charts with planests in 8'th houses and about the significations. I dont know who floted mokschha trikona theory, If it's done by Sri K.N Rao's school, he is not a seeker, we should re-examine this theory. regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , aavesh t <aavesh_s@> wrote: > > Dear Sunilji and Lalit, > > Sunilji : You have been gracious in admitting that there are limitations to our understanding of the esoteric side of Jyotish. > > The classics have clearly spelled out the types of Pravrajya which come under the domain of each Graha.There is absolutely no ambiguty in this area whatsoever > > Lalit : You have put your views with great force as always > > While appreciating your point of view,I would like you to ponder/discuss on the following: > > (i)You have said that the 8th house has been highly overrated by astrologers of today and it leads to fuss over insignificant things > > > (ii)Could you please explain the level of spirituality attained by Paramahamsa Yogananda from his chart (excluding his 8th house > which in your opinion is not significant) > > (iii)How do you account for the 8th being one of the 'Moksha' trikona > houses ?? > > (iv)You have been very categorically stating that Shani Maharaj cannot give true Vairagya and have used Ramakrishna's chart to enunciate your point of view > > Do you really think that Guru in Mithuna Rasi is capable of giving the kind of spiritual level that Shri Ramakrishna had attained ?? > > If you look at Shri Ramakrishna's chart :Guru rules the 2nd and 11th houses (Artha and Kama Bhavas). > > How can Guru in this position give his level of spirituality ?? > > Please think about the above and let me know your views > > Regards, > > aavesh sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote: > > > hare rama krishna > dear lalit , > > u said it i dont know ,yes it s 100% true > > Also i was not pro or anti to ur sani discussion ,i was pointing out what i know .Again it was abt Thakur s conversions to islam or xianity .Also i said each planets has some role in the way he takes sanyasa .And saaji has explained it . > > u realised god .what is moksha trikon ??i am asking parasari point of view ,also why they r called so .As i am parroting the astro principle than creating my own . > > U can reply to grp and i am no more interested in sanyasa or pravrajay as an astrologer i am after by ppl to know their lov life or material prosperity .No one asked me whter their son or daughter will become gandhi or budha or mahavir jain .so i cant change rules or society at least me as a normal human without any gr8 mission in life .Dont expect me to know all questions .I know the tricks of trade only .I never find a person leavs gr8 paying jobs to help humanity what ever he may say .I mean in my life . > Tho astro has all principles which beyond the scope this sitt back home and asking in net grps .so let the hidden be hidden .let it be so for seekers > > so u can explain to grp > where is ur jup ?? > what sampradaya or guru or mantra or god its showing ? > > regrds sunil nair > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > also allow me to go my hibernation and all the best to u .U know i am busy . > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > Sunil Ji, > > > > Namaskaar, I m sorry to say, Your study is partial, let's take it > > this way : Aadi Shankara made - Giri, Puri, Teertha , Ashram, > > Saraswati, Dandi .. etc, Todya i dont remember all as i studied about > > them early, some 12 - 15 yrs back, Nath and Naga were started by > > their influential Gurus, in addition to that, south india has got > > some exclusive Nainaars,Alwars,Jangams, then there are > > Shaiva,VirShaiva,Lingayat, Kaulas, Shaktas and then Vaishnavas, then > > there are other tantrik cults. > > > > Now we have our input data with us, can u tell our members what > > planet rules what and how the conclusion is reached upon. > > > > Why you all elders dont accept, you dont know each and ev erything, > > even there is no base available to identify a sect with the help of > > astrology, if some people have done efforts, we should recognise them > > with respect, but pls. dont say that astrology has got reference of > > these sampradayas since Parashara, Parashara was in Dwapar and for > > Aadi Shankara it's hardly 1200 yrs. > > > > I admit tht BPHS says about Pravajya Yogas, but We were discussing > > How through the astrology we can recognise one has attained at self > > realization with God or Not. > > > > It's a myth that Saturn can take one to God, No Sir, it cant, saturn > > can reduce one to ashes, the renunciation part, Do u think, a > > renunciation takes one to God ? what to renunciate ? how to > > renunicate, there is all pervading god, where u will go by > > renunciation, to understand this, saturn's domain has to be crossed > > ov er, saturn puts u to a foundry only but If Jupitor is not there one > > fells in love with this foundry, his mind in that life will not get > > the lite of widom, like a robot trained to remove cloths, but he will > > remove cloths but how to wear the cloths. > > > > renunciation or indulgance is one and same thing, no difference from > > spirituality point of view. > > > > It was jupitor in 5'th house of Thakur that brought him back to the > > track and took to the height of sadhana, 5'th is the place of doing > > sadhana, 9'th is the faith, dharma, morality, preceptor etc.., eighth > > is the figment of imagination of today's astrologers, world have not > > seen any real individual who has ever atained self realization with > > the help of 8'th house alone, having interest in making an open thing > > secretive has no significance at all, this is what 8'th house does, > > the person will make great fuss about insignificant things. > > > > Let's stop giving undue importance to 8'th house for God's vision or > > Bhakti. unless one lands on the moon, he cant know what happens > > there, As i have seen the God, I know what are the states of the > > mind, what are the prerequisites, therefore, I know what people are > > missing. > > > > Let's redifine and restablish some of things which are misleading us. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sunil nair " > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > dear lalit , > > > > > > yes ,sankara codified it wh ich was pre existing also ,like veda > > vyasa > > > done vedas which was there b4 him but he edited it and compiled . > > > > > > > > > > > > and astro is long b4 sankara too ( tho he is frm kerala i dont > > wanted to > > > take all > > > > > > credit ) > > > > > > > > > > > > sufism or saint hood has no place in traditional islam so > > initiation is > > > diffrnt in normal islam also u loose some skin too > > > > > > > > > > > > God realisation is in all religions and jup of cource will influence > > > ,but not the way u think . > > > > > > > > > > > > hope this helps > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > & g t; > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sunil Ji, > > > > > > > > Something is believed without digging into and testing it, what's > > the > > > > base to declare that a sampradayaa is ruled by this or that > > planet. > > > > > > > > Shankaracharya alone has floated dozens of sampradayaas, it seems > > > > somebody in later age has given this idea of planet's ruling > > > > sampradaays. > > > > > > > > Pravarjya can be there but i was discussing about reaching the > > God, > > > > If Jupitor is not involved, nobody can reach the God, I mean if u > > try > > > > to look it into horoscope. > > > > > & gt; > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sunil nair " > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hare ramakrishna > > > > > > > > > > dear chandrasekhar ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thakur never converted to islam ,he was following some islamic > > > > or > > > > > sufis sampradayas and that time he was living like a muslim as > > he > > > > was in > > > > > search of truth .Same applies to xianity .He never converted . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same way he tested all known tantric rituals also > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also saaji is rite abt saying diffrnt sampradayas in > > pravrajya .And > > > > > diffrnt planets controls it .And he explained it beautifully . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > > > > > Did he convert to Islam? If so, when did he reconvert to > > Hinduism? > > > > > Will > > > > > > you find out. His learning what is Islam etc. does not mean > > > > giving up > > > > > > dharma. > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Daer Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar, I m sure and source of my information abt Sri > > > > > Ramkrishna's > > > > > > > taking up Islam for a small period is only Sri RamkKrishna > > > > Leelamrit > > > > > > > and SriRamkrishna Charitamrit, one is published by Sri > > > > Ramkrishna > > > > > > > Mission and the other one is written by Roma Rola (dont know > > > > how to > > > & g t; > > > correctly spell his name) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have studied 4 - 5 biographies of Paramhansha, it's given > > > > > > > everywhere, it was Thakur, who told Vivekanada that Juesu's > > > > nose was > > > > > > > not straight, when Viekanada went to west, in one of the > > > > library he > > > > > > > got a pic drawn by hand like protrait, Jesus nose was like > > that > > > > > only. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maata Aannada Mai had not taken Sanyas or Vanaprasthashrama, > > > > she had > > > > > > > no Guru also in real sense, (m not sure), She did not > > follow her > > > > > > > grihasta dharam and even her husband for 8 years turned > > like her > > > > > > > sis hya, who was enough elder to her. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once maa happened to know she is a soul like God and then > > never > > > > > > > looked back to worldly affairs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > > sharma.chandrashekhar@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think this is a sweeping statement. Are you certain > > > > Ramakrishna > > > > > > > > Paramahamsa converted to either Christianity or Islam? > > What > > > > is the > > > > > > > > source of this information? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way study of other Dharmas is not giving up one's > > own > > > > > dharma > > > > > > > nor > > > > > > > > is change of ashram a change of Dharma. If we assume it > > to be > > > > so > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > all ancient kings who took Vanaprasthashrama will have to > > be > > > > > > > labeled as > > > > > > > > having changed their Dharma. I think that would not be > > > > correct. > > > > > > > What is > > > > > > > > your opinion? > > & gt; > > > > > > > > > > > > > Take care, > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Aavesh Sir and Mr. Gopu, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I w'd like to put one observation on Sani's placement on > > > > 9'th, > > > > > If > > > > > > > > > Sani is there on 9'th, At least once in life, the person > > > > changes > > > > > > > > > his/her defined dharma, though Sani is exalted in > > Bhagwan > > > > Sri > > > > > > > > > RamKrishna Paramhansha's horoscope, He switched to > > Islam and > > > > > & gt; > > > Christianity, Same is true with Maata Aanadmai, she also > > > > changed > > > > > > > her > > > > > > > > > Grihastha dharma and went to Sanyaasa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know one more Girl, whom i once liked, Vandana, has > > also > > > > got > > > > > > > Saturn > > > > > > > > > in 9'th and she has strong inclination to appreciate > > other > > > > > > > religions > > > > > > > > > than her own, she is much influenced by Islamic Sufi > > system. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont know what happened in case of Mr. Gopu, he w'd > > also > > > > have > > > > > > > > > better connection wit h or influence of some body who is > > > > averse > > > > > to > > > > > > > Mr. > > > > > > > > > Gopu's defined dharma by tradition or inheritance. > > However, > > > > This > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > not a matured finding coz whole of horoscope is not > > known. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also It's established now that 10'th house + Sun combo > > > > should be > > > > > > > > > taken for judgement of the affairs related to one's > > Father. > > > > In > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > cases, 9'th can successfully indicate Father's > > influence on > > > > a > > > > > > > native > > ; > > > > > > > coz Father is also a natural Guru or Preceptor to a > > child. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If required we can go for a comparision of 9'th + Sun > > and > > > > 10'th > > > > > + > > > > > > > Sun > > > > > > > > > combos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > Lalit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing% 40>, > > aavesh > > & gt; > t > > > > > > > > > <aavesh_s@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr Gopu, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your input on this thread > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A small confusion: How can Shani Maharaj in 9th be in > > a > > > > > > > > > Dusthana ?? > > > > > > > > > > (as you have mentioned in your mail) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly clarify > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aavesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > K Gopu <kgopu_24@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dear Mr.aavesh, > > > > > > > > > > saturn in the 9th if it is in a dustana house in a > > > > > > > > > > native it can also affect the coborn because of its > > > > > > > > > > aspect on the 3rd house from the lagna. > > > > > > > > > > I have saturn in the 9th from my vrichika lagna. 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Guest guest Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 Dear Sunil, Well said. Chandrashekhar. sunil nair wrote: hare rama krishna dear chandra sekhar ji , Thnak u A chart will hav all planets and we hav to see chart as a whole too But most strongly influencing planet will decide the system or sampradaya one may follow .Then we can find if the system was suitable on postumous analaysis . but soul will serach iits own destiny . depending kala desa and even paristithi the names may change Thanks for u time and mail regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Sunil, > > I thought so, too. I agree that different grahas give different > pravrajyas if the classic pravrajya yoga of 4 or more grahas together is > present in a chart in certain bhavas. Saaji is right there. > > Chandrashekhar. > > sunil nair wrote: > > > > > > > > hare ramakrishna > > > > dear chandrasekhar ji > > > > > > > > Thakur never converted to islam ,he was following some islamic or > > sufis sampradayas and that time he was living like a muslim as he was > > in search of truth .Same applies to xianity .He never converted . > > > > > > > > same way he tested all known tantric rituals also > > > > > > > > Also saaji is rite abt saying diffrnt sampradayas in pravrajya .And > > diffrnt planets controls it .And he explained it beautifully . > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar > > sharma.chandrashekhar@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > Did he convert to Islam? If so, when did he reconvert to Hinduism? Will > > > you find out. His learning what is Islam etc. does not mean giving up > > > dharma. > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > Daer Sir, > > > > > > > > Namaskaar, I m sure and source of my information abt Sri Ramkrishna's > > > > taking up Islam for a small period is only Sri RamkKrishna Leelamrit > > > > and SriRamkrishna Charitamrit, one is published by Sri Ramkrishna > > > > Mission and the other one is written by Roma Rola (dont know how to > > > > correctly spell his name) > > > > > > > > I have studied 4 - 5 biographies of Paramhansha, it's given > > > > everywhere, it was Thakur, who told Vivekanada that Juesu's nose was > > > > not straight, when Viekanada went to west, in one of the library he > > > > got a pic drawn by hand like protrait, Jesus nose was like that only. > > > > > > > > Maata Aannada Mai had not taken Sanyas or Vanaprasthashrama, she had > > > > no Guru also in real sense, (m not sure), She did not follow her > > > > grihasta dharam and even her husband for 8 years turned like her > > > > sishya, who was enough elder to her. > > > > > > > > Once maa happened to know she is a soul like God and then never > > > > looked back to worldly affairs. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, Chandrashekhar > > > > sharma.chandrashekhar@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > > > > > I think this is a sweeping statement. Are you certain Ramakrishna > > > > > Paramahamsa converted to either Christianity or Islam? What is the > > > > > source of this information? > > > > > > > > > > By the way study of other Dharmas is not giving up one's own dharma > > > > nor > > > > > is change of ashram a change of Dharma. If we assume it to be so > > > > then > > > > > all ancient kings who took Vanaprasthashrama will have to be > > > > labeled as > > > > > having changed their Dharma. I think that would not be correct. > > > > What is > > > > > your opinion? > > > > > > > > > > Take care, > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Aavesh Sir and Mr. Gopu, > > > > > > > > > > > > I w'd like to put one observation on Sani's placement on 9'th, If > > > > > > Sani is there on 9'th, At least once in life, the person changes > > > > > > his/her defined dharma, though Sani is exalted in Bhagwan Sri > > > > > > RamKrishna Paramhansha's horoscope, He switched to Islam and > > > > > > Christianity, Same is true with Maata Aanadmai, she also changed > > > > her > > > > > > Grihastha dharma and went to Sanyaasa. > > > > > > > > > > > > I know one more Girl, whom i once liked, Vandana, has also got > > > > Saturn > > > > > > in 9'th and she has strong inclination to appreciate other > > > > religions > > > > > > than her own, she is much influenced by Islamic Sufi system. > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont know what happened in case of Mr. Gopu, he w'd also have > > > > > > better connection with or influence of some body who is averse to > > > > Mr. > > > > > > Gopu's defined dharma by tradition or inheritance. However, This > > > > is > > > > > > not a matured finding coz whole of horoscope is not known. > > > > > > > > > > > > Also It's established now that 10'th house + Sun combo should be > > > > > > taken for judgement of the affairs related to one's Father. In > > > > some > > > > > > cases, 9'th can successfully indicate Father's influence on a > > > > native > > > > > > coz Father is also a natural Guru or Preceptor to a child. > > > > > > > > > > > > If required we can go for a comparision of 9'th + Sun and 10'th + > > > > Sun > > > > > > combos. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Lalit > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, aavesh t > > > > > > <aavesh_s@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr Gopu, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your input on this thread > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A small confusion: How can Shani Maharaj in 9th be in a > > > > > > Dusthana ?? > > > > > > > (as you have mentioned in your mail) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly clarify > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aavesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > K Gopu <kgopu_24@> wrote: > > > > > > > dear Mr.aavesh, > > > > > > > saturn in the 9th if it is in a dustana house in a > > > > > > > native it can also affect the coborn because of its > > > > > > > aspect on the 3rd house from the lagna. > > > > > > > I have saturn in the 9th from my vrichika lagna. 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