4,8,12: Search the relevant 'hetus'

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Dear Lalit,

I am glad seeing the confidence with which you have taken up the relook at 4, 8, 12. Yes, from 4th poorvapunya is to be read, if we read between the slokas I showed you in J.N.

While we have accepted that kama trikona is 3,7, 11, there is no reason for not taking a fresh look at a bhava like 4th, where are housed the sukha. Can there be bhoga without sukha? There can be bhoga together with du(h)kha. S0 read du(h)kh bhoga from 8th. Saturn rules over 8th not just because 8th contains longevity -- that which lengthens. What lengthens? Du(h)kha, not sukha. Thus, saturn rules that is lengthens. In other words, du(h)kha . That's part of the scheme of things on this mortal plane (martya). Those who experience [undergo/taste/ (bhog/bhuk)] sukha for long periods are rare, exceptions. Sukha is short-lived, dukha long-lived, generally speaking. Next, many of the siginfications of 12th will be found to be of the dukha category, see esp. U.K. Now if you think shajya-sukha only and consider 12th as house of sukha, that is a partial story of the house, in fact houses, all houses.

The schema of trikona -- dharma (1,5,9) artha(2,6,10) etc -- is to be understood differently. Maybe I would like anyone doing such shake-down of existing schema if they can do the proving through testing (of actual horoscopes).

Take 12th again. It's the hse of separation. 12th of any bhava holds the dynamic of separation for that bhava. This is, when we allow karma to strike us from behind as it catches up with us. But the same separation (dynamic) can be made into a tool, whereby karma can't strike you; you pre-empt karma. How? Y0u steer clear of trappings, you walk away, or at least you remain nirlipta. Which is how we get tyaga and bairagya. 11th, by contrast, is avarice, cupidity, the path to eventual perdition. Strong 12th beter than strong 11th. (Remember Sarvatakavarga rule? It says the oppsite. 11th should have more pointage than 12th. That's valid from the perspective of worldlings) Yes, 12th is bhoga. Bhoga of lasting joy. The perspective has been changed, values radically reworked.

You can do your own reflection on 8th, basing on the hints, and can come to see why mystics have an intensified 8th hse. And they savour the joy the worldlings can scarce imagine.

.....Purusha sukhadu(h)khanam bhokrtrutwe®heturuchyate (Gita)

RK