Guest guest Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Dear Ramanarayanji, BRILLIANT EXPLANATIONS This is the way Jyotish needs to be done !! It is a privilege to have you on the group Sir Regards, aavesh sree88ganesha <sree88ganesha wrote: SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAMAUM GURUBYO NAMAHDear Shri Bhaskar ji & Shri Lalit Mishra ji,Namaste. i am happy to receive responses. i shall make an attempt to answer.Soorya is also called as Bhaskar. Every graha has a Soorya Roopa of which Ketu's Soorya Roopa is called as Bhaskara. This name suggests that we look into the role of Ketu in the chart of Shri Bhaskar. i am happy to note the presence of Ketu in 12th to Karakamsa (Venus is the Atmakaraka in the chart). This gives a hint that the bija necessary to cause liberation/freedom from the clutches of grahas has already been sown. Is the 'vriksha' growing? Is there a problem to the growth of this Vriksha? Let us have a closer look at Ketu. Rasi chart: - Ketu is placed in 7th in kumbha with Mantra and Maatri paadas, influenced by Mars(rahu's influence goes without saying) from Lagna. The powerful influence of Mars(anger and frustration) and Rahu(shock and deception) induces Ketu (who represents a 'Sadhu') to curse. This gives a hint about the generation of Sarpa yoga and a development of keen interest in unraveling the mysteries surrounding spirits and smashan. Navamsa chart: - Ketu is placed in Vrischika and is subject to the influence of Sani, Rahu & Mars. All the four are placed in kendras to Navamsa lagna. This reinforces the intensity of the yogas mentioned in rasi chart.Shastiyamsa chart: - Ketu is placed in Meena and is again subject to the influence of Mars.From all this we can infer that the native is subject to the curse of a Sanyasin/Sadhu. This curse needs to be addressed and removed so as to facilitate the blessings of Ishta devatha in the form of Ketu.Once this curse is removed the blessings of Ishta devatha would flow. How do we understand the curse is removed? The very same Sadhu would bless with a new name!!!The 8th lord from Karakamsha is Moon. He is found placed in 7th to karakamsha indicating the Rna to the soulmate. This Moon is playing the role of Putrakaraka and is also the significator of shisyas/followers and all the clients(Moon rules Vikrama pada). Moon is the Kaala Lord in the diagram. This means the vision about these significations needs to be addressed. Since Moon is the Kaala lord remedies are to be done to have a directional change. This has to be followed by offering the Hora of Moon to the Lord by Chanting "OM NAMO NAARAYANAYA".The 4th Lord from the Karakamsha is Guru(no planet tenants Meena in navamsa). MA TARA when invoked would change the gati. Before embarking on this it is to be borne that the Guru is seen cursing in shastyamsa. This Brahamana saapa needs to be removed.Venus is the Atmakaraka and is placed in Mesha (in Kroora shastyamsa) in 9th in rasi chart. This Venus is being influenced by Sani and Rahu in shastyamsa in chart indicating the reasons of this birth.To remove the Sadhu saapa it is suggested that 1.Chanting "OM NAMO BHAGAVATE SAINAATHAYA" - 108 times in the morning and evening for a period of 40 days.2.Read "SAI SATCHARITA" during this period.3.After the 40th day offer prayers at Shirdi on a Tuesday lighting a lamp using til tel. Offer "Chaamara" ( hand fan) to Shri SAINAATHA. Perform Rudraabhisheka to the Paada. 4.Offer food packets/feed the poor.5.Pray fervently to remove the curse and request SAINATHA to forgive for past mistakes.After this offer your Sukra Hora to GANAPATI.i am not going into other remedial measures as these may be known already.Shri Lalit Mishra ji,8th house is called as Nirmala kshetra because it behaves like a mirror reflecting the karmic load of the jivaas. Reflection is fruits of darshana which is the 10th house. 11th from the 10th house is the fruit. In this sense 8th is considered as mirror. If given importance the mirror is bound to reflect. Once reflected we understand the urgency to shed off the load. In this way it helps remove the mala/impurities of the past. This is a powerful Rudra karma. Accumulation of unwanted material is considered unnatural and is considered cancerous. The Jiva has to facilitate the transformation of the unwanted resources kept in possession out of ignorance. This is also Rudra Aaradana. How to use this principle? See the 8th placed planet(if no planet choose the Lord) from the karakaamsha and offer the Hora to the Lord by way of chanting Savitur Gayathri or "OM NAMO NAARAAYANAYA".As usual i am sorry for the length of the mail. If i had exceeded somewhere in explaining certain issues i am sorry for the same.Best wishes.May Mother Bless.Astrologically & spiritually yours,p.s.ramanarayanan.Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear Shri RamNarayananaji,> > Namaste .> > You seem to be informed.> > But Your technical language is a little difficult to> > uinderstand. If You would be kind enough to> > explain what you have explained with illustrations> > of my Chart, i would consider myself fortunate and blessed.> > My Birth details-> > 28th June 1961.> > 10.14am> > Eluru ( near Vijaywada)> > 16.45N 81.09E> > Leo Lagna (Vargottama).> > Hope you would be kind enough to explain through my example Birth Chart.> & gt; regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "sree88ganesha"> sree88ganesha@ wrote:> >> > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM> > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH> >> > Dear Shri Lalit Mishra ji,> >> > Namaste. i am happy to receive your response which is as usual full of> > warmth. i understand that much discussions have been done during these> > days.> >> > i shall move on to Chandra soon.> >> > As regards 4th the same is called as the kshetra of 'shuddhi', while> 8th> > is called the 'nirmala kshetra' and 12th is called as 'yoganidra> > kshetra'.> >> > The word moksha hints at liberating the 'jiva' from the clutches of> the> > graha. The dharmaamsa chart will play a powerful role in this regard.> > This means locate the atmakaraka graha in the navamsa chart. See the> > 12th from it. This is called as 'jivanmukthaamsa'. The planet placed> > there or the Lord would give you the hint about the 'Ishta devatha'> who> > when turned to would do the needful. The "Ishta Devatha" should be> > considered as the 'bhokthri' while the atmakaraka should be considered> > as the 'bhogya'. The hora of the atmakaraka is to be offered to Ishta> > devatha on a daily basis by chanting the 'nama' .> >> > The 4th from Karaakamsa will indicate the 'gati'. The 4th placed> planet> > will give you hint about that devatha who would cause these changes in> > gathi. This devatha would act as MA an d would be doing the job of> > cleansing. Dasa Maha Vidya function begins here.> > "Gatistvam.............Bhavani".> >> > The 8th stands for the 'Rna' that needs to be disposed off. See the> > planet in the 8th from Atmakaraka or see the lord of 8th from> karakamsa.> > Offer that Hora of that planet to the Lord chanting Savitur Gayathri> or> > "OM NAMO NARAYANAYA".> >> > Brahma Samhita speaks about Goloka which is beyond the sphere of> grahas.> > May the Lord bless us all this Supreme Bliss of HIS.> >> > i shall stop now and continue later.> >> > Best wishes.> >> > May Mother Bless.> >> > Astrologically & spiritually yours,> > p.s.ramanarayanan.> >> & g t;> >> >> >> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol"> > mishra.lalit@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Sir,> > >> > > Thanx for posting such a nice enlightenning post to group, there was> > > enough food for thoughts, I took time to reply to u as i wanted to> see> > > if our members are really trying to update their existing knowledge> > > base, i m not very appreciative of them.> > >> > > Now as enough time has been spent and Mahashivaratri is also over,> > that> > > day, the way Lord Shiva managed a Rudrabhisheka for me has> overwhelmed> > > me, I had even not a single Vilva Patra and I was given everything> > > ready, just in couple of seconds, This also gives me enough self> > > confidence that I m right in my approach, several times i m said to> > not> > > to write openly about spiritual experiences, Sorry I do it, coz,> Good> > > has to be known to everyone, to spread everywhere, and ego ? what> ego> > is> > > there, when we know all is God's maya and all the recepients are> also> > > souls like me, as near to God as me is.> > >> > > Now, I think time has come back to learn about the exaltations from> u,> > > Pls. be kind to me and to group and tell us from ur treasure.> > >> > > regards,> > > Lalit.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >< br />> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "sree88ganesha"> > > > > > > > > > <sree88ganesha@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM> > > > > > > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalit Mishra ji,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive your mail. i am happy> > > > to> > ; > > > > note> > > > > > > > your> > > > > > > > > > > deep interest in the subject. i am just back from my> > > > > > > schedule.> > > > > > > > i> > > > > > > > > > shall> > > > > > > > > > > be away for a few more days - Siva Ratri is round> the> > > > > > corner.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > i feel that every pravesha has a definite> > > > significance.> > > > > > This> > > > > > > > > does> > > > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > > mean that i am trying to belittle the thithi> prav esha> > > > > > theory.> > > > > > > > We> > > > > > > > > > shall> > > > > > > > > > > go into this later.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > i just came across our respected Chandrasekharji's> > > > > > > observation> > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > connection with exaltation and debilitation of> grahas.> > > > i> > > > > > have> > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > gone> > > > > > > > > > > through others observation. i am sorry for that.> > > > > > > > > > >< br />> > > > > > > > > > > Let me take up one by one. You can stop me when> > > > you/the> > > > > > group> > > > > > > > > feels> > > > > > > > > > > this is boring.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours,> > > > > > > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > vedicastrolog yandhealing , "litsol"> > > > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir P.S. RamNarain Ji,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar, Hope u r fine there and doing well,> From> > > > the> > > > > > > Group> > > > > > > > > > side, We> > > > > > > > > > > > are expecting u to complete ur interesting article> > > > on> > > > > > rahu> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > exaltation in which u indicated Kurma Avtaar's< br />> > > > > > > significations> > > > > > > > > for> > > > > > > > > > > > undestanding the exaltation theories.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. find some time for our sake, I w'd also> request> > > > > you> > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > throw> > > > > > > > > > some> > > > > > > > > > > > light on significations of Tithi Pravesha charts,> a> > > > sr.> > > > > > > > member> > > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > group h as requested for that.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> You are managing the Vedic Astrologyandhealing group through Grouply.You to individual emails for this group. | Update your Subscription settings42 messages in this conversation, including this one | Add a commentView this message on Grouply so you can rate, tag, bookmark, and see what others think about it. 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Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Bhaskar Ji, Your knowledge about Tara Maa's sadhan and about her devotees are very limited, See, I have never been in any of the tantra schools, but whenever it was required, mother sent so many tantra siddhas to me. Once in Bhopal, Maa Tara sent her great sadhaka to me, you are totally wrong in ur perception of vama marga/dakshhina maarga. Mother does ( " Ahetuki Kripa " ), I mean the blessings that u never desired. We indians are forgetting being grateful - " Kritagyata " . Pls. show tha same sothat we youngsters can learn from u. regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Shri RamaNarayananji, > > I am curious and wish to know more > about you. > Your age, and experience in astrology > and other professional areas, if you wish > to share. > I am curious because of 2 aspects. > > 1) Normally invoking Ma Tara is not > prescribed wantonly. Though i find > a SJC disciple doing this often, for which > I have in an freindly way, obstructed to > his such sugeestions to all and sundry > natives coming to him with queries. > This invocation is done mostly by the > left handed panth, Aghoris. Normal > householders would dare not do it. > Because she is Smashan Tara and one > of the MahaVidyas, who cannot be > approached by normal persons of lust, > Kama,Krodha and Lobha, which at least I > possess in few measures, if not in much. > These are dangerous ways to tread upon, > and one may have to part with his Life, > with a single wrong mistake or even a > wrong thought entering his mind during > the invocations. Though I am very much > aligned to the astral sphere, > but I would dare not do this > approaching before I cleanse myself. > > 2) Sainath if You mean SaiBaba, > is not a God, but a messenger of > God, and a human. I do worship of him > daily, but if a detailed Pooja has to > be done, I would prefer to do of his > Lord Dattatreyaji. > Would not be Shri Hanumanji more > pleased if I do recitation of > Shri Ram Jaya Rama Jay Jaya Ram, > and is He not present wherever a > auspicious recital of > Ramayana is done ? In same way > instead of doiing too much > worship of any human being who > has perished, though > he may be a saint, is secondarily > preferable to me, primarily I would > prefer to live Life as per His teachings, > rather than pray to His photo.I > would prefer praying to the Avatars or > the MahaVishnu Himself. > > As regards Jyotisha, my Order of > devotion and belief is thus, > > 1) Belief in ones own Karma,his actions. > 2) Belief in God. > 3) Belief in Jyotisha. > > So i give preference to Jyotisha on the > last level of this 3 Tier. > > As regards to remedial measures, I have a faith > that if a person is good, behaves good'with all, > performs his duties well,lives life as per the > injunctions laid by God, the God would Himself > help the native to overcome his purva paap, > by bringing remedies in His Life, > from time to time, so that His Bhakta is > absolved of thepast sins, and made > to reach nearer to Himself, ie. towards Godhead. > > But the above by no means, should suggest, > that I do not believe in doing Remedial > 'measures, Japa, Mantras, worship etcetra. > > This would depend from a person to person, > on availibility of time, the inclinations > and the family atmosphere he is living in, > which must also be favourable to make him > do the above. The outward influences > and sorroundings do play a major role > in ones spiritual upliftment, and not just > depend on a individual alone. > > best regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Dear Shri RamNarayananji, > > > > Please accept my heartfelt thanks for analysing > > my chart the way you did, which was unique, and > > your time and efforts given to studying the other > > divisional charts. You are the only one person > > who has been able to spiritually > > diaognise my chart uptil now. > > > > Though I am interested in overcoming the spiritual > > astral entities and this plane, with my Sadhana, > > and keeping in touch directly with the astral sphere, > > yet I worship only the Mahamantras and the Lord Ram, > > Krishna and Shiva.Primarily, the form of Vishnu > > (Narayana with Discus ,Lotus, Conch and gada), > > is the form of Narayana I adore and worship. > > > > Ma Tara would be difficult for me to handle, > > and invoke, not yet ready for her > > worship - ritually, at least not presently, > > few years hence, I would not know. > > Then how to go about it when I am not ready ? > > > > Another point - When would I meet this sadhu > > who would change my name ? My name has already been > > changed from Krishna to Bhaskar, in Jyotish > > profession, but this change has been brought > > about by myself, and not through any Sadhu. > > > > Sainatha and Lord Dattatreya I am already > > worshipping,though give major time only to > > Lord Krishna. > > > > Food packets etc. are going regularly from me, > > more than 30-40% of my income per month is spent > > regularly on such activities ,since few years, > > though this may be unrelaistic percentage to you, > > but this is so due to the Lords grace. I always > > believe whatever is mines is given from HIm to > > share with those lower than me,in income brackets. > > Though I face tough opposition from Home, > > for squandering larger share my income in this > > manner, but never allow anyone to rule me, in > > these decesions. > > > > I hope you would answer my queries put up, > > which may be simple for you, > > but lot of meaning for me. > > > > Last Query - Do You see meacquiring kaivalya > > in this Birth itself, if continous > > efforts are made for self development on > > spiritual angels by myself ? > > > > kind regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > <sree88ganesha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > Dear Shri Bhaskar ji & Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive responses. i shall make an > attempt > > to > > > answer. > > > > > > Soorya is also called as Bhaskar. Every graha has a Soorya Roopa > of > > > which Ketu's Soorya Roopa is called as Bhaskara. This name > > suggests that > > > we look into the role of Ketu in the chart of Shri Bhaskar. i am > > happy > > > to note the presence of Ketu in 12th to Karakamsa (Venus is the > > > Atmakaraka in the chart). This gives a hint that the bija > > necessary to > > > cause liberation/freedom from the clutches of grahas has already > > been > > > sown. Is the 'vriksha' growing? Is there a problem to the growth > > of this > > > Vriksha? Let us have a closer look at Ketu. > > > > > > Rasi chart: - Ketu is placed in 7th in kumbha with Mantra and > > Maatri > > > paadas, influenced by Mars(rahu's influence goes without saying) > > from > > > Lagna. The powerful influence of Mars(anger and frustration) and > > > Rahu(shock and deception) induces Ketu (who represents > a 'Sadhu') > > to > > > curse. This gives a hint about the generation of Sarpa yoga and > a > > > development of keen interest in unraveling the mysteries > > surrounding > > > spirits and smashan. > > > > > > Navamsa chart: - Ketu is placed in Vrischika and is subject to > the > > > influence of Sani, Rahu & Mars. All the four are placed in > kendras > > to > > > Navamsa lagna. This reinforces the intensity of the yogas > > mentioned in > > > rasi chart. > > > > > > Shastiyamsa chart: - Ketu is placed in Meena and is again > subject > > to the > > > influence of Mars. > > > > > > From all this we can infer that the native is subject to the > curse > > of a > > > Sanyasin/Sadhu. This curse needs to be addressed and removed so > as > > to > > > facilitate the blessings of Ishta devatha in the form of Ketu. > > > > > > Once this curse is removed the blessings of Ishta devatha would > > flow. > > > How do we understand the curse is removed? The very same Sadhu > > would > > > bless with a new name!!! > > > > > > The 8th lord from Karakamsha is Moon. He is found placed in 7th > to > > > karakamsha indicating the Rna to the soulmate. This Moon is > > playing the > > > role of Putrakaraka and is also the significator of > > shisyas/followers > > > and all the clients(Moon rules Vikrama pada). Moon is the Kaala > > Lord in > > > the diagram. This means the vision about these significations > > needs to > > > be addressed. Since Moon is the Kaala lord remedies are to be > done > > to > > > have a directional change. This has to be followed by offering > the > > Hora > > > of Moon to the Lord by Chanting " OM NAMO NAARAYANAYA " . > > > > > > The 4th Lord from the Karakamsha is Guru(no planet tenants Meena > in > > > navamsa). MA TARA when invoked would change the gati. Before > > embarking > > > on this it is to be borne that the Guru is seen cursing in > > shastyamsa. > > > This Brahamana saapa needs to be removed. > > > > > > Venus is the Atmakaraka and is placed in Mesha (in Kroora > > shastyamsa) in > > > 9th in rasi chart. This Venus is being influenced by Sani and > Rahu > > in > > > shastyamsa in chart indicating the reasons of this birth. > > > > > > To remove the Sadhu saapa it is suggested that > > > 1.Chanting " OM NAMO BHAGAVATE SAINAATHAYA " - 108 times in the > > morning > > > and evening for a period of 40 days. > > > 2.Read " SAI SATCHARITA " during this period. > > > 3.After the 40th day offer prayers at Shirdi on a Tuesday > lighting > > a > > > lamp using til tel. Offer " Chaamara " ( hand fan) to Shri > SAINAATHA. > > > Perform Rudraabhisheka to the Paada. > > > 4.Offer food packets/feed the poor. > > > 5.Pray fervently to remove the curse and request SAINATHA to > > forgive for > > > past mistakes. > > > > > > After this offer your Sukra Hora to GANAPATI. > > > > > > i am not going into other remedial measures as these may be known > > > already. > > > > > > Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > 8th house is called as Nirmala kshetra because it behaves like a > > mirror > > > reflecting the karmic load of the jivaas. Reflection is fruits of > > > darshana which is the 10th house. 11th from the 10th house is > the > > fruit. > > > In this sense 8th is considered as mirror. If given importance > the > > > mirror is bound to reflect. Once reflected we understand the > > urgency to > > > shed off the load. In this way it helps remove the > mala/impurities > > of > > > the past. This is a powerful Rudra karma. Accumulation of > unwanted > > > material is considered unnatural and is considered cancerous. > The > > Jiva > > > has to facilitate the transformation of the unwanted resources > > kept in > > > possession out of ignorance. This is also Rudra Aaradana. How to > > use > > > this principle? See the 8th placed planet(if no planet choose > the > > Lord) > > > from the karakaamsha and offer the Hora to the Lord by way of > > chanting > > > Savitur Gayathri or " OM NAMO NAARAAYANAYA " . > > > > > > As usual i am sorry for the length of the mail. If i had exceeded > > > somewhere in explaining certain issues i am sorry for the same. > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri RamNarayananaji, > > > > > > > > Namaste . > > > > > > > > You seem to be informed. > > > > > > > > But Your technical language is a little difficult to > > > > > > > > uinderstand. If You would be kind enough to > > > > > > > > explain what you have explained with illustrations > > > > > > > > of my Chart, i would consider myself fortunate and blessed. > > > > > > > > My Birth details- > > > > > > > > 28th June 1961. > > > > > > > > 10.14am > > > > > > > > Eluru ( near Vijaywada) > > > > > > > > 16.45N 81.09E > > > > > > > > Leo Lagna (Vargottama). > > > > > > > > Hope you would be kind enough to explain through my example > Birth > > > Chart. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > > > sree88ganesha@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive your response which is as > usual > > full > > > of > > > > > warmth. i understand that much discussions have been done > > during > > > these > > > > > days. > > > > > > > > > > i shall move on to Chandra soon. > > > > > > > > > > As regards 4th the same is called as the kshetra > of 'shuddhi', > > while > > > > 8th > > > > > is called the 'nirmala kshetra' and 12th is called > > as 'yoganidra > > > > > kshetra'. > > > > > > > > > > The word moksha hints at liberating the 'jiva' from the > > clutches of > > > > the > > > > > graha. The dharmaamsa chart will play a powerful role in this > > > regard. > > > > > This means locate the atmakaraka graha in the navamsa chart. > > See the > > > > > 12th from it. This is called as 'jivanmukthaamsa'. The > planet > > placed > > > > > there or the Lord would give you the hint about the 'Ishta > > devatha' > > > > who > > > > > when turned to would do the needful. The " Ishta Devatha " > > should be > > > > > considered as the 'bhokthri' while the atmakaraka should be > > > considered > > > > > as the 'bhogya'. The hora of the atmakaraka is to be offered > to > > > Ishta > > > > > devatha on a daily basis by chanting the 'nama' . > > > > > > > > > > The 4th from Karaakamsa will indicate the 'gati'. The 4th > > placed > > > > planet > > > > > will give you hint about that devatha who would cause these > > changes > > > in > > > > > gathi. This devatha would act as MA and would be doing the > job > > of > > > > > cleansing. Dasa Maha Vidya function begins here. > > > > > " Gatistvam.............Bhavani " . > > > > > > > > > > The 8th stands for the 'Rna' that needs to be disposed off. > > See the > > > > > planet in the 8th from Atmakaraka or see the lord of 8th from > > > > karakamsa. > > > > > Offer that Hora of that planet to the Lord chanting Savitur > > Gayathri > > > > or > > > > > " OM NAMO NARAYANAYA " . > > > > > > > > > > Brahma Samhita speaks about Goloka which is beyond the > sphere > > of > > > > grahas. > > > > > May the Lord bless us all this Supreme Bliss of HIS. > > > > > > > > > > i shall stop now and continue later. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > mishra.lalit@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx for posting such a nice enlightenning post to group, > > there > > > was > > > > > > enough food for thoughts, I took time to reply to u as i > > wanted to > > > > see > > > > > > if our members are really trying to update their existing > > > knowledge > > > > > > base, i m not very appreciative of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now as enough time has been spent and Mahashivaratri is > also > > over, > > > > > that > > > > > > day, the way Lord Shiva managed a Rudrabhisheka for me has > > > > overwhelmed > > > > > > me, I had even not a single Vilva Patra and I was given > > everything > > > > > > ready, just in couple of seconds, This also gives me > enough > > self > > > > > > confidence that I m right in my approach, several times i > m > > said > > > to > > > > > not > > > > > > to write openly about spiritual experiences, Sorry I do > it, > > coz, > > > > Good > > > > > > has to be known to everyone, to spread everywhere, and > ego ? > > what > > > > ego > > > > > is > > > > > > there, when we know all is God's maya and all the > recepients > > are > > > > also > > > > > > souls like me, as near to God as me is. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, I think time has come back to learn about the > > exaltations > > > from > > > > u, > > > > > > Pls. be kind to me and to group and tell us from ur > treasure. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <sree88ganesha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive your mail. > i > > am > > > happy > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > note > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > deep interest in the subject. i am just > back > > from > > > my > > > > > > > > > > schedule. > > > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > > > shall > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be away for a few more days - Siva Ratri > is > > round > > > > the > > > > > > > > > corner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i feel that every pravesha has a definite > > > > > > > significance. > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mean that i am trying to belittle the > thithi > > > > pravesha > > > > > > > > > theory. > > > > > > > > > > > We > > > > > > > > > > > > > shall > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go into this later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i just came across our respected > > Chandrasekharji's > > > > > > > > > > observation > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > connection with exaltation and > debilitation > > of > > > > grahas. > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > gone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through others observation. i am sorry for > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me take up one by one. You can stop me > > when > > > > > > > you/the > > > > > > > > > group > > > > > > > > > > > > feels > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is boring. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir P.S. RamNarain Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar, Hope u r fine there and doing > > well, > > > > From > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Group > > > > > > > > > > > > > side, We > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are expecting u to complete ur > interesting > > > article > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > rahu > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > exaltation in which u indicated Kurma > > Avtaar's > > > > > > > > > > significations > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > undestanding the exaltation theories. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. find some time for our sake, I w'd > > also > > > > request > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > throw > > > > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > light on significations of Tithi Pravesha > > > charts, > > > > a > > > > > > > sr. > > > > > > > > > > > member > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > group has requested for that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Dear Lalitji, The tables have turned now, in your own Forum. I am enjoying this. In other Forums I used to advise you about the language part, and now my affectionate young friend doing the same, to me. I like this, to become a student most of the times, is enjoyable, then one leaves all his chintas and tensions and responsibilities to the Guru,and becomes a free bird. But You got me wrong probably. I am not here to teach the Great masters. I only expressed about my ownself without pointing finger at anybody. Yes to Shri RamaNarayanji i did say that his technical language was difficult to follow,but that also means and acknowledges the fact, that I am much below his levels of understandings and would appreciate what he has written with illustrations, and offered my chart as the illustrations part. And he certainly took it positively in the way it was intended and replied with my chart in view. When I say that " un-understandable English " , this term means any discussions which does not lead to some astrological concept. It has not to be taken at face value. There was a pun intended. Kora pravachan or Kora discussion is not my Forte was what I intended to mean.Ultimately only food can fill the stomache and not just talks. same way for an astrologer only discussions which are argumentive, containing principles known or unknown, new or old, discovered or created, can cause enjoyments. Just like only talks of Gods would not be very much enjoyable to a real Sadhaka, only immersing in meditation would give him greater joy. Yes, i would certainly share few interesting charts, in the days to come. regards, Bhaskar. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <mishra.lalit wrote: > > Bhaskar Ji, > > I think u know that I understand u better than u know urself, forget > what u like or what u dont like, it's already known. this is a kind > of bakwaas. > > u have good experience of reading the charts, u share ur experience > with us, let ur experience become a marker for others. as u are > straightforward, u will put truth, i believe this. > > > everybody has right to use his way of expression, u r no one to teach > anybpody that he should not use a language that u dont understand, ur > own writing is good enough and sometimes me, who knows only official > english needs to do understand even ur posts. > > No complaining, Bhaskar Ji. > > regards, > Lalit. > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Lalitji, > > > > I am a different person. > > Always talk with essence and some > > material and weight. > > Cant beat around the bush with > > un-understandable > > English language to the common folks, > > For me Jyotish is Kab,Kyuon, > > kahan aur kaise ? Iske alava > > all is bakwwaas for me. > > > > You knew my nature before You invited me. > > I talk staright, and cannot > > stand nonsense. A meek lamb is not > > my Forte. A healthy Lion, ready > > to pounce on the distractors, > > is my strength. > > > > My sharing is eternal. > > I never wait for anyone to ask me to share. > > It is how much perception power the > > opposite person has, he can pull from me. > > > > I criticise only when I find people talking > > anything other than predictions, > > or how to predict, > > or how to learn predicting. > > > > If the above 3 points are met in any discussions, > > then I enjoy, > > rest bakwaas on spiritual or > > other matters, > > which makes no sense, > > which leads to nothing, > > which cannot make 2 ends meet, > > which is of no use to > > materialistic Life, > > > > I desist and abhor. > > > > Hence if you keep me here, > > then remember that on and off > > I will show my sparks. > > But these would be for the > > good of astrological science > > and the astrologers. > > > > kind regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > Pls. go little slow, you are among ur knowledgable friends, not > > > always creativity needs a criticism. > > > > > > W'd like u to share one of the best case of ur long astro life > > where > > > u have noticed > > > > > > 1. classics come very accurately. > > > 2. deviation from the classics. > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri RamNarayananaji, > > > > > > > > Namaste . > > > > > > > > You seem to be informed. > > > > > > > > But Your technical language is a little difficult to > > > > > > > > uinderstand. If You would be kind enough to > > > > > > > > explain what you have explained with illustrations > > > > > > > > of my Chart, i would consider myself fortunate and blessed. > > > > > > > > My Birth details- > > > > > > > > 28th June 1961. > > > > > > > > 10.14am > > > > > > > > Eluru ( near Vijaywada) > > > > > > > > 16.45N 81.09E > > > > > > > > Leo Lagna (Vargottama). > > > > > > > > Hope you would be kind enough to explain through my example > > Birth > > > Chart. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > > > <sree88ganesha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive your response which is as > usual > > > full of > > > > > warmth. i understand that much discussions have been done > > during > > > these > > > > > days. > > > > > > > > > > i shall move on to Chandra soon. > > > > > > > > > > As regards 4th the same is called as the kshetra of > 'shuddhi', > > > while > > > > 8th > > > > > is called the 'nirmala kshetra' and 12th is called > > as 'yoganidra > > > > > kshetra'. > > > > > > > > > > The word moksha hints at liberating the 'jiva' from the > > clutches > > > of > > > > the > > > > > graha. The dharmaamsa chart will play a powerful role in this > > > regard. > > > > > This means locate the atmakaraka graha in the navamsa chart. > > See > > > the > > > > > 12th from it. This is called as 'jivanmukthaamsa'. The planet > > > placed > > > > > there or the Lord would give you the hint about the 'Ishta > > > devatha' > > > > who > > > > > when turned to would do the needful. The " Ishta Devatha " > > should be > > > > > considered as the 'bhokthri' while the atmakaraka should be > > > considered > > > > > as the 'bhogya'. The hora of the atmakaraka is to be offered > > to > > > Ishta > > > > > devatha on a daily basis by chanting the 'nama' . > > > > > > > > > > The 4th from Karaakamsa will indicate the 'gati'. The 4th > > placed > > > > planet > > > > > will give you hint about that devatha who would cause these > > > changes in > > > > > gathi. This devatha would act as MA and would be doing the > job > > of > > > > > cleansing. Dasa Maha Vidya function begins here. > > > > > " Gatistvam.............Bhavani " . > > > > > > > > > > The 8th stands for the 'Rna' that needs to be disposed off. > > See > > > the > > > > > planet in the 8th from Atmakaraka or see the lord of 8th from > > > > karakamsa. > > > > > Offer that Hora of that planet to the Lord chanting Savitur > > > Gayathri > > > > or > > > > > " OM NAMO NARAYANAYA " . > > > > > > > > > > Brahma Samhita speaks about Goloka which is beyond the sphere > > of > > > > grahas. > > > > > May the Lord bless us all this Supreme Bliss of HIS. > > > > > > > > > > i shall stop now and continue later. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > mishra.lalit@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx for posting such a nice enlightenning post to group, > > > there was > > > > > > enough food for thoughts, I took time to reply to u as i > > wanted > > > to > > > > see > > > > > > if our members are really trying to update their existing > > > knowledge > > > > > > base, i m not very appreciative of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now as enough time has been spent and Mahashivaratri is > also > > > over, > > > > > that > > > > > > day, the way Lord Shiva managed a Rudrabhisheka for me has > > > > overwhelmed > > > > > > me, I had even not a single Vilva Patra and I was given > > > everything > > > > > > ready, just in couple of seconds, This also gives me enough > > self > > > > > > confidence that I m right in my approach, several times i m > > > said to > > > > > not > > > > > > to write openly about spiritual experiences, Sorry I do it, > > coz, > > > > Good > > > > > > has to be known to everyone, to spread everywhere, and ego > ? > > > what > > > > ego > > > > > is > > > > > > there, when we know all is God's maya and all the > recepients > > are > > > > also > > > > > > souls like me, as near to God as me is. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, I think time has come back to learn about the > > exaltations > > > from > > > > u, > > > > > > Pls. be kind to me and to group and tell us from ur > treasure. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <sree88ganesha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive your mail. i > > am > > > happy > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > note > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > deep interest in the subject. i am just > back > > > from my > > > > > > > > > > schedule. > > > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > > > shall > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be away for a few more days - Siva Ratri is > > > round > > > > the > > > > > > > > > corner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i feel that every pravesha has a definite > > > > > > > significance. > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mean that i am trying to belittle the thithi > > > > pravesha > > > > > > > > > theory. > > > > > > > > > > > We > > > > > > > > > > > > > shall > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go into this later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i just came across our respected > > > Chandrasekharji's > > > > > > > > > > observation > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > connection with exaltation and debilitation > > of > > > > grahas. > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > gone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through others observation. i am sorry for > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me take up one by one. You can stop me > > when > > > > > > > you/the > > > > > > > > > group > > > > > > > > > > > > feels > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is boring. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir P.S. RamNarain Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar, Hope u r fine there and doing > > well, > > > > From > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Group > > > > > > > > > > > > > side, We > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are expecting u to complete ur > interesting > > > article > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > rahu > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > exaltation in which u indicated Kurma > > Avtaar's > > > > > > > > > > significations > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > undestanding the exaltation theories. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. find some time for our sake, I w'd > > also > > > > request > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > throw > > > > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > light on significations of Tithi Pravesha > > > charts, > > > > a > > > > > > > sr. > > > > > > > > > > > member > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > group has requested for that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Lalitji, We Indians, most of us, are certainly 'Kritigya' and display our kritagyta which is nothing extraordinary but 'Normal 'Naitikta' (Duty, Ethics and norms). This krigayta is the reason for me not going to meet Mother in a defiled manner. Here defiled means not being at par of my own paribhasha (definition)of being a proper yaachaka or a good son. I have my own scales of judgement for a good astrologer, a good sadhaka, a good man, a good friend etc.and here I fall short from own made levels which may be around 200 years old. therefore meet I must, but not yet ready. I am grateful to all the Gods and Goddesses, and Lord Shri Krishna is fully looking after me and giving me more than what I am worth. I do not see the Lord and Ma as different. They are just 2 Forms of the Whole or One. One is the female manifestation. A simple reading of the Durga Chalisa would suffice to know that all is one. Yes I may have less knowledge of the sadhana of Ma Tara, and her devotees, is true. regards, Bhaskar. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <mishra.lalit wrote: > > Bhaskar Ji, > > Your knowledge about Tara Maa's sadhan and about her devotees are > very limited, See, I have never been in any of the tantra schools, > but whenever it was required, mother sent so many tantra siddhas to > me. > > Once in Bhopal, Maa Tara sent her great sadhaka to me, you are > totally wrong in ur perception of vama marga/dakshhina maarga. > > Mother does ( " Ahetuki Kripa " ), I mean the blessings that u never > desired. > > We indians are forgetting being grateful - " Kritagyata " . Pls. show > tha same sothat we youngsters can learn from u. > > regards, > Lalit. > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Shri RamaNarayananji, > > > > I am curious and wish to know more > > about you. > > Your age, and experience in astrology > > and other professional areas, if you wish > > to share. > > I am curious because of 2 aspects. > > > > 1) Normally invoking Ma Tara is not > > prescribed wantonly. Though i find > > a SJC disciple doing this often, for which > > I have in an freindly way, obstructed to > > his such sugeestions to all and sundry > > natives coming to him with queries. > > This invocation is done mostly by the > > left handed panth, Aghoris. Normal > > householders would dare not do it. > > Because she is Smashan Tara and one > > of the MahaVidyas, who cannot be > > approached by normal persons of lust, > > Kama,Krodha and Lobha, which at least I > > possess in few measures, if not in much. > > These are dangerous ways to tread upon, > > and one may have to part with his Life, > > with a single wrong mistake or even a > > wrong thought entering his mind during > > the invocations. Though I am very much > > aligned to the astral sphere, > > but I would dare not do this > > approaching before I cleanse myself. > > > > 2) Sainath if You mean SaiBaba, > > is not a God, but a messenger of > > God, and a human. I do worship of him > > daily, but if a detailed Pooja has to > > be done, I would prefer to do of his > > Lord Dattatreyaji. > > Would not be Shri Hanumanji more > > pleased if I do recitation of > > Shri Ram Jaya Rama Jay Jaya Ram, > > and is He not present wherever a > > auspicious recital of > > Ramayana is done ? In same way > > instead of doiing too much > > worship of any human being who > > has perished, though > > he may be a saint, is secondarily > > preferable to me, primarily I would > > prefer to live Life as per His teachings, > > rather than pray to His photo.I > > would prefer praying to the Avatars or > > the MahaVishnu Himself. > > > > As regards Jyotisha, my Order of > > devotion and belief is thus, > > > > 1) Belief in ones own Karma,his actions. > > 2) Belief in God. > > 3) Belief in Jyotisha. > > > > So i give preference to Jyotisha on the > > last level of this 3 Tier. > > > > As regards to remedial measures, I have a faith > > that if a person is good, behaves good'with all, > > performs his duties well,lives life as per the > > injunctions laid by God, the God would Himself > > help the native to overcome his purva paap, > > by bringing remedies in His Life, > > from time to time, so that His Bhakta is > > absolved of thepast sins, and made > > to reach nearer to Himself, ie. towards Godhead. > > > > But the above by no means, should suggest, > > that I do not believe in doing Remedial > > 'measures, Japa, Mantras, worship etcetra. > > > > This would depend from a person to person, > > on availibility of time, the inclinations > > and the family atmosphere he is living in, > > which must also be favourable to make him > > do the above. The outward influences > > and sorroundings do play a major role > > in ones spiritual upliftment, and not just > > depend on a individual alone. > > > > best regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Shri RamNarayananji, > > > > > > Please accept my heartfelt thanks for analysing > > > my chart the way you did, which was unique, and > > > your time and efforts given to studying the other > > > divisional charts. You are the only one person > > > who has been able to spiritually > > > diaognise my chart uptil now. > > > > > > Though I am interested in overcoming the spiritual > > > astral entities and this plane, with my Sadhana, > > > and keeping in touch directly with the astral sphere, > > > yet I worship only the Mahamantras and the Lord Ram, > > > Krishna and Shiva.Primarily, the form of Vishnu > > > (Narayana with Discus ,Lotus, Conch and gada), > > > is the form of Narayana I adore and worship. > > > > > > Ma Tara would be difficult for me to handle, > > > and invoke, not yet ready for her > > > worship - ritually, at least not presently, > > > few years hence, I would not know. > > > Then how to go about it when I am not ready ? > > > > > > Another point - When would I meet this sadhu > > > who would change my name ? My name has already been > > > changed from Krishna to Bhaskar, in Jyotish > > > profession, but this change has been brought > > > about by myself, and not through any Sadhu. > > > > > > Sainatha and Lord Dattatreya I am already > > > worshipping,though give major time only to > > > Lord Krishna. > > > > > > Food packets etc. are going regularly from me, > > > more than 30-40% of my income per month is spent > > > regularly on such activities ,since few years, > > > though this may be unrelaistic percentage to you, > > > but this is so due to the Lords grace. I always > > > believe whatever is mines is given from HIm to > > > share with those lower than me,in income brackets. > > > Though I face tough opposition from Home, > > > for squandering larger share my income in this > > > manner, but never allow anyone to rule me, in > > > these decesions. > > > > > > I hope you would answer my queries put up, > > > which may be simple for you, > > > but lot of meaning for me. > > > > > > Last Query - Do You see meacquiring kaivalya > > > in this Birth itself, if continous > > > efforts are made for self development on > > > spiritual angels by myself ? > > > > > > kind regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > > <sree88ganesha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Bhaskar ji & Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive responses. i shall make an > > attempt > > > to > > > > answer. > > > > > > > > Soorya is also called as Bhaskar. Every graha has a Soorya > Roopa > > of > > > > which Ketu's Soorya Roopa is called as Bhaskara. This name > > > suggests that > > > > we look into the role of Ketu in the chart of Shri Bhaskar. i > am > > > happy > > > > to note the presence of Ketu in 12th to Karakamsa (Venus is the > > > > Atmakaraka in the chart). This gives a hint that the bija > > > necessary to > > > > cause liberation/freedom from the clutches of grahas has > already > > > been > > > > sown. Is the 'vriksha' growing? Is there a problem to the > growth > > > of this > > > > Vriksha? Let us have a closer look at Ketu. > > > > > > > > Rasi chart: - Ketu is placed in 7th in kumbha with Mantra and > > > Maatri > > > > paadas, influenced by Mars(rahu's influence goes without > saying) > > > from > > > > Lagna. The powerful influence of Mars(anger and frustration) and > > > > Rahu(shock and deception) induces Ketu (who represents > > a 'Sadhu') > > > to > > > > curse. This gives a hint about the generation of Sarpa yoga > and > > a > > > > development of keen interest in unraveling the mysteries > > > surrounding > > > > spirits and smashan. > > > > > > > > Navamsa chart: - Ketu is placed in Vrischika and is subject to > > the > > > > influence of Sani, Rahu & Mars. All the four are placed in > > kendras > > > to > > > > Navamsa lagna. This reinforces the intensity of the yogas > > > mentioned in > > > > rasi chart. > > > > > > > > Shastiyamsa chart: - Ketu is placed in Meena and is again > > subject > > > to the > > > > influence of Mars. > > > > > > > > From all this we can infer that the native is subject to the > > curse > > > of a > > > > Sanyasin/Sadhu. This curse needs to be addressed and removed so > > as > > > to > > > > facilitate the blessings of Ishta devatha in the form of Ketu. > > > > > > > > Once this curse is removed the blessings of Ishta devatha would > > > flow. > > > > How do we understand the curse is removed? The very same Sadhu > > > would > > > > bless with a new name!!! > > > > > > > > The 8th lord from Karakamsha is Moon. He is found placed in > 7th > > to > > > > karakamsha indicating the Rna to the soulmate. This Moon is > > > playing the > > > > role of Putrakaraka and is also the significator of > > > shisyas/followers > > > > and all the clients(Moon rules Vikrama pada). Moon is the Kaala > > > Lord in > > > > the diagram. This means the vision about these significations > > > needs to > > > > be addressed. Since Moon is the Kaala lord remedies are to be > > done > > > to > > > > have a directional change. This has to be followed by offering > > the > > > Hora > > > > of Moon to the Lord by Chanting " OM NAMO NAARAYANAYA " . > > > > > > > > The 4th Lord from the Karakamsha is Guru(no planet tenants > Meena > > in > > > > navamsa). MA TARA when invoked would change the gati. Before > > > embarking > > > > on this it is to be borne that the Guru is seen cursing in > > > shastyamsa. > > > > This Brahamana saapa needs to be removed. > > > > > > > > Venus is the Atmakaraka and is placed in Mesha (in Kroora > > > shastyamsa) in > > > > 9th in rasi chart. This Venus is being influenced by Sani and > > Rahu > > > in > > > > shastyamsa in chart indicating the reasons of this birth. > > > > > > > > To remove the Sadhu saapa it is suggested that > > > > 1.Chanting " OM NAMO BHAGAVATE SAINAATHAYA " - 108 times in the > > > morning > > > > and evening for a period of 40 days. > > > > 2.Read " SAI SATCHARITA " during this period. > > > > 3.After the 40th day offer prayers at Shirdi on a Tuesday > > lighting > > > a > > > > lamp using til tel. Offer " Chaamara " ( hand fan) to Shri > > SAINAATHA. > > > > Perform Rudraabhisheka to the Paada. > > > > 4.Offer food packets/feed the poor. > > > > 5.Pray fervently to remove the curse and request SAINATHA to > > > forgive for > > > > past mistakes. > > > > > > > > After this offer your Sukra Hora to GANAPATI. > > > > > > > > i am not going into other remedial measures as these may be > known > > > > already. > > > > > > > > Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > 8th house is called as Nirmala kshetra because it behaves like > a > > > mirror > > > > reflecting the karmic load of the jivaas. Reflection is fruits > of > > > > darshana which is the 10th house. 11th from the 10th house is > > the > > > fruit. > > > > In this sense 8th is considered as mirror. If given importance > > the > > > > mirror is bound to reflect. Once reflected we understand the > > > urgency to > > > > shed off the load. In this way it helps remove the > > mala/impurities > > > of > > > > the past. This is a powerful Rudra karma. Accumulation of > > unwanted > > > > material is considered unnatural and is considered cancerous. > > The > > > Jiva > > > > has to facilitate the transformation of the unwanted resources > > > kept in > > > > possession out of ignorance. This is also Rudra Aaradana. How > to > > > use > > > > this principle? See the 8th placed planet(if no planet choose > > the > > > Lord) > > > > from the karakaamsha and offer the Hora to the Lord by way of > > > chanting > > > > Savitur Gayathri or " OM NAMO NAARAAYANAYA " . > > > > > > > > As usual i am sorry for the length of the mail. If i had > exceeded > > > > somewhere in explaining certain issues i am sorry for the same. > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri RamNarayananaji, > > > > > > > > > > Namaste . > > > > > > > > > > You seem to be informed. > > > > > > > > > > But Your technical language is a little difficult to > > > > > > > > > > uinderstand. If You would be kind enough to > > > > > > > > > > explain what you have explained with illustrations > > > > > > > > > > of my Chart, i would consider myself fortunate and blessed. > > > > > > > > > > My Birth details- > > > > > > > > > > 28th June 1961. > > > > > > > > > > 10.14am > > > > > > > > > > Eluru ( near Vijaywada) > > > > > > > > > > 16.45N 81.09E > > > > > > > > > > Leo Lagna (Vargottama). > > > > > > > > > > Hope you would be kind enough to explain through my example > > Birth > > > > Chart. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > > > > sree88ganesha@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive your response which is as > > usual > > > full > > > > of > > > > > > warmth. i understand that much discussions have been done > > > during > > > > these > > > > > > days. > > > > > > > > > > > > i shall move on to Chandra soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > As regards 4th the same is called as the kshetra > > of 'shuddhi', > > > while > > > > > 8th > > > > > > is called the 'nirmala kshetra' and 12th is called > > > as 'yoganidra > > > > > > kshetra'. > > > > > > > > > > > > The word moksha hints at liberating the 'jiva' from the > > > clutches of > > > > > the > > > > > > graha. The dharmaamsa chart will play a powerful role in > this > > > > regard. > > > > > > This means locate the atmakaraka graha in the navamsa > chart. > > > See the > > > > > > 12th from it. This is called as 'jivanmukthaamsa'. The > > planet > > > placed > > > > > > there or the Lord would give you the hint about the 'Ishta > > > devatha' > > > > > who > > > > > > when turned to would do the needful. The " Ishta Devatha " > > > should be > > > > > > considered as the 'bhokthri' while the atmakaraka should be > > > > considered > > > > > > as the 'bhogya'. The hora of the atmakaraka is to be > offered > > to > > > > Ishta > > > > > > devatha on a daily basis by chanting the 'nama' . > > > > > > > > > > > > The 4th from Karaakamsa will indicate the 'gati'. The 4th > > > placed > > > > > planet > > > > > > will give you hint about that devatha who would cause these > > > changes > > > > in > > > > > > gathi. This devatha would act as MA and would be doing the > > job > > > of > > > > > > cleansing. Dasa Maha Vidya function begins here. > > > > > > " Gatistvam.............Bhavani " . > > > > > > > > > > > > The 8th stands for the 'Rna' that needs to be disposed off. > > > See the > > > > > > planet in the 8th from Atmakaraka or see the lord of 8th > from > > > > > karakamsa. > > > > > > Offer that Hora of that planet to the Lord chanting Savitur > > > Gayathri > > > > > or > > > > > > " OM NAMO NARAYANAYA " . > > > > > > > > > > > > Brahma Samhita speaks about Goloka which is beyond the > > sphere > > > of > > > > > grahas. > > > > > > May the Lord bless us all this Supreme Bliss of HIS. > > > > > > > > > > > > i shall stop now and continue later. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > > mishra.lalit@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx for posting such a nice enlightenning post to > group, > > > there > > > > was > > > > > > > enough food for thoughts, I took time to reply to u as i > > > wanted to > > > > > see > > > > > > > if our members are really trying to update their existing > > > > knowledge > > > > > > > base, i m not very appreciative of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now as enough time has been spent and Mahashivaratri is > > also > > > over, > > > > > > that > > > > > > > day, the way Lord Shiva managed a Rudrabhisheka for me has > > > > > overwhelmed > > > > > > > me, I had even not a single Vilva Patra and I was given > > > everything > > > > > > > ready, just in couple of seconds, This also gives me > > enough > > > self > > > > > > > confidence that I m right in my approach, several times i > > m > > > said > > > > to > > > > > > not > > > > > > > to write openly about spiritual experiences, Sorry I do > > it, > > > coz, > > > > > Good > > > > > > > has to be known to everyone, to spread everywhere, and > > ego ? > > > what > > > > > ego > > > > > > is > > > > > > > there, when we know all is God's maya and all the > > recepients > > > are > > > > > also > > > > > > > souls like me, as near to God as me is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, I think time has come back to learn about the > > > exaltations > > > > from > > > > > u, > > > > > > > Pls. be kind to me and to group and tell us from ur > > treasure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <sree88ganesha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive your mail. > > i > > > am > > > > happy > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > note > > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > deep interest in the subject. i am just > > back > > > from > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > schedule. > > > > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shall > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be away for a few more days - Siva Ratri > > is > > > round > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > corner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i feel that every pravesha has a definite > > > > > > > > significance. > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mean that i am trying to belittle the > > thithi > > > > > pravesha > > > > > > > > > > theory. > > > > > > > > > > > > We > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shall > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go into this later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i just came across our respected > > > Chandrasekharji's > > > > > > > > > > > observation > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > connection with exaltation and > > debilitation > > > of > > > > > grahas. > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through others observation. i am sorry > for > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me take up one by one. You can stop > me > > > when > > > > > > > > you/the > > > > > > > > > > group > > > > > > > > > > > > > feels > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is boring. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir P.S. RamNarain Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar, Hope u r fine there and > doing > > > well, > > > > > From > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > Group > > > > > > > > > > > > > > side, We > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are expecting u to complete ur > > interesting > > > > article > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > exaltation in which u indicated Kurma > > > Avtaar's > > > > > > > > > > > significations > > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > undestanding the exaltation theories. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. find some time for our sake, I w'd > > > also > > > > > request > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > throw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > light on significations of Tithi > Pravesha > > > > charts, > > > > > a > > > > > > > > sr. > > > > > > > > > > > > member > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > group has requested for that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Bhaskar Ji, Namaskaar, When for sometime (depends case to case) we remain 'Normal Naitika' our " JyotishMati " awakens, We need not make any definition, rather we need to understand the definition inherent to the universe, We need to hear the Anahat's naad, this naad is refreshing like taking a good bath, then the steps towards self realization begins. It's all practical and a must to achieve, quite achievable, there is no doubt at all. regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Lalitji, > > We Indians, most of us, > are certainly 'Kritigya' and > display our kritagyta which is nothing > extraordinary but 'Normal 'Naitikta' > (Duty, Ethics and norms). This > krigayta is the reason for me not going to > meet Mother in a defiled manner. > Here defiled means not being at par of > my own paribhasha (definition)of being a > proper yaachaka or a good son. > I have my own scales of judgement for > a good astrologer, a good sadhaka, a good > man, a good friend etc.and here I fall > short from own made levels which may be > around 200 years old. therefore meet > I must, but not yet ready. > > I am grateful to all the Gods and Goddesses, > and Lord Shri Krishna is fully looking after > me and giving me more than what I am worth. > I do not see the Lord and Ma as different. > They are just 2 Forms of the Whole or One. > One is the female manifestation. > A simple reading of the Durga Chalisa would > suffice to know that all is one. > > Yes I may have less knowledge of > the sadhana of Ma Tara, and her > devotees, is true. > > regards, > Bhaskar. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > Bhaskar Ji, > > > > Your knowledge about Tara Maa's sadhan and about her devotees are > > very limited, See, I have never been in any of the tantra schools, > > but whenever it was required, mother sent so many tantra siddhas > to > > me. > > > > Once in Bhopal, Maa Tara sent her great sadhaka to me, you are > > totally wrong in ur perception of vama marga/dakshhina maarga. > > > > Mother does ( " Ahetuki Kripa " ), I mean the blessings that u never > > desired. > > > > We indians are forgetting being grateful - " Kritagyata " . Pls. show > > tha same sothat we youngsters can learn from u. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri RamaNarayananji, > > > > > > I am curious and wish to know more > > > about you. > > > Your age, and experience in astrology > > > and other professional areas, if you wish > > > to share. > > > I am curious because of 2 aspects. > > > > > > 1) Normally invoking Ma Tara is not > > > prescribed wantonly. Though i find > > > a SJC disciple doing this often, for which > > > I have in an freindly way, obstructed to > > > his such sugeestions to all and sundry > > > natives coming to him with queries. > > > This invocation is done mostly by the > > > left handed panth, Aghoris. Normal > > > householders would dare not do it. > > > Because she is Smashan Tara and one > > > of the MahaVidyas, who cannot be > > > approached by normal persons of lust, > > > Kama,Krodha and Lobha, which at least I > > > possess in few measures, if not in much. > > > These are dangerous ways to tread upon, > > > and one may have to part with his Life, > > > with a single wrong mistake or even a > > > wrong thought entering his mind during > > > the invocations. Though I am very much > > > aligned to the astral sphere, > > > but I would dare not do this > > > approaching before I cleanse myself. > > > > > > 2) Sainath if You mean SaiBaba, > > > is not a God, but a messenger of > > > God, and a human. I do worship of him > > > daily, but if a detailed Pooja has to > > > be done, I would prefer to do of his > > > Lord Dattatreyaji. > > > Would not be Shri Hanumanji more > > > pleased if I do recitation of > > > Shri Ram Jaya Rama Jay Jaya Ram, > > > and is He not present wherever a > > > auspicious recital of > > > Ramayana is done ? In same way > > > instead of doiing too much > > > worship of any human being who > > > has perished, though > > > he may be a saint, is secondarily > > > preferable to me, primarily I would > > > prefer to live Life as per His teachings, > > > rather than pray to His photo.I > > > would prefer praying to the Avatars or > > > the MahaVishnu Himself. > > > > > > As regards Jyotisha, my Order of > > > devotion and belief is thus, > > > > > > 1) Belief in ones own Karma,his actions. > > > 2) Belief in God. > > > 3) Belief in Jyotisha. > > > > > > So i give preference to Jyotisha on the > > > last level of this 3 Tier. > > > > > > As regards to remedial measures, I have a faith > > > that if a person is good, behaves good'with all, > > > performs his duties well,lives life as per the > > > injunctions laid by God, the God would Himself > > > help the native to overcome his purva paap, > > > by bringing remedies in His Life, > > > from time to time, so that His Bhakta is > > > absolved of thepast sins, and made > > > to reach nearer to Himself, ie. towards Godhead. > > > > > > But the above by no means, should suggest, > > > that I do not believe in doing Remedial > > > 'measures, Japa, Mantras, worship etcetra. > > > > > > This would depend from a person to person, > > > on availibility of time, the inclinations > > > and the family atmosphere he is living in, > > > which must also be favourable to make him > > > do the above. The outward influences > > > and sorroundings do play a major role > > > in ones spiritual upliftment, and not just > > > depend on a individual alone. > > > > > > best regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Shri RamNarayananji, > > > > > > > > Please accept my heartfelt thanks for analysing > > > > my chart the way you did, which was unique, and > > > > your time and efforts given to studying the other > > > > divisional charts. You are the only one person > > > > who has been able to spiritually > > > > diaognise my chart uptil now. > > > > > > > > Though I am interested in overcoming the spiritual > > > > astral entities and this plane, with my Sadhana, > > > > and keeping in touch directly with the astral sphere, > > > > yet I worship only the Mahamantras and the Lord Ram, > > > > Krishna and Shiva.Primarily, the form of Vishnu > > > > (Narayana with Discus ,Lotus, Conch and gada), > > > > is the form of Narayana I adore and worship. > > > > > > > > Ma Tara would be difficult for me to handle, > > > > and invoke, not yet ready for her > > > > worship - ritually, at least not presently, > > > > few years hence, I would not know. > > > > Then how to go about it when I am not ready ? > > > > > > > > Another point - When would I meet this sadhu > > > > who would change my name ? My name has already been > > > > changed from Krishna to Bhaskar, in Jyotish > > > > profession, but this change has been brought > > > > about by myself, and not through any Sadhu. > > > > > > > > Sainatha and Lord Dattatreya I am already > > > > worshipping,though give major time only to > > > > Lord Krishna. > > > > > > > > Food packets etc. are going regularly from me, > > > > more than 30-40% of my income per month is spent > > > > regularly on such activities ,since few years, > > > > though this may be unrelaistic percentage to you, > > > > but this is so due to the Lords grace. I always > > > > believe whatever is mines is given from HIm to > > > > share with those lower than me,in income brackets. > > > > Though I face tough opposition from Home, > > > > for squandering larger share my income in this > > > > manner, but never allow anyone to rule me, in > > > > these decesions. > > > > > > > > I hope you would answer my queries put up, > > > > which may be simple for you, > > > > but lot of meaning for me. > > > > > > > > Last Query - Do You see meacquiring kaivalya > > > > in this Birth itself, if continous > > > > efforts are made for self development on > > > > spiritual angels by myself ? > > > > > > > > kind regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > > > <sree88ganesha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Bhaskar ji & Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive responses. i shall make an > > > attempt > > > > to > > > > > answer. > > > > > > > > > > Soorya is also called as Bhaskar. Every graha has a Soorya > > Roopa > > > of > > > > > which Ketu's Soorya Roopa is called as Bhaskara. This name > > > > suggests that > > > > > we look into the role of Ketu in the chart of Shri Bhaskar. > i > > am > > > > happy > > > > > to note the presence of Ketu in 12th to Karakamsa (Venus is > the > > > > > Atmakaraka in the chart). This gives a hint that the bija > > > > necessary to > > > > > cause liberation/freedom from the clutches of grahas has > > already > > > > been > > > > > sown. Is the 'vriksha' growing? Is there a problem to the > > growth > > > > of this > > > > > Vriksha? Let us have a closer look at Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > Rasi chart: - Ketu is placed in 7th in kumbha with Mantra > and > > > > Maatri > > > > > paadas, influenced by Mars(rahu's influence goes without > > saying) > > > > from > > > > > Lagna. The powerful influence of Mars(anger and frustration) > and > > > > > Rahu(shock and deception) induces Ketu (who represents > > > a 'Sadhu') > > > > to > > > > > curse. This gives a hint about the generation of Sarpa yoga > > and > > > a > > > > > development of keen interest in unraveling the mysteries > > > > surrounding > > > > > spirits and smashan. > > > > > > > > > > Navamsa chart: - Ketu is placed in Vrischika and is subject > to > > > the > > > > > influence of Sani, Rahu & Mars. All the four are placed in > > > kendras > > > > to > > > > > Navamsa lagna. This reinforces the intensity of the yogas > > > > mentioned in > > > > > rasi chart. > > > > > > > > > > Shastiyamsa chart: - Ketu is placed in Meena and is again > > > subject > > > > to the > > > > > influence of Mars. > > > > > > > > > > From all this we can infer that the native is subject to the > > > curse > > > > of a > > > > > Sanyasin/Sadhu. This curse needs to be addressed and removed > so > > > as > > > > to > > > > > facilitate the blessings of Ishta devatha in the form of > Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > Once this curse is removed the blessings of Ishta devatha > would > > > > flow. > > > > > How do we understand the curse is removed? The very same > Sadhu > > > > would > > > > > bless with a new name!!! > > > > > > > > > > The 8th lord from Karakamsha is Moon. He is found placed in > > 7th > > > to > > > > > karakamsha indicating the Rna to the soulmate. This Moon is > > > > playing the > > > > > role of Putrakaraka and is also the significator of > > > > shisyas/followers > > > > > and all the clients(Moon rules Vikrama pada). Moon is the > Kaala > > > > Lord in > > > > > the diagram. This means the vision about these > significations > > > > needs to > > > > > be addressed. Since Moon is the Kaala lord remedies are to > be > > > done > > > > to > > > > > have a directional change. This has to be followed by > offering > > > the > > > > Hora > > > > > of Moon to the Lord by Chanting " OM NAMO NAARAYANAYA " . > > > > > > > > > > The 4th Lord from the Karakamsha is Guru(no planet tenants > > Meena > > > in > > > > > navamsa). MA TARA when invoked would change the gati. Before > > > > embarking > > > > > on this it is to be borne that the Guru is seen cursing in > > > > shastyamsa. > > > > > This Brahamana saapa needs to be removed. > > > > > > > > > > Venus is the Atmakaraka and is placed in Mesha (in Kroora > > > > shastyamsa) in > > > > > 9th in rasi chart. This Venus is being influenced by Sani > and > > > Rahu > > > > in > > > > > shastyamsa in chart indicating the reasons of this birth. > > > > > > > > > > To remove the Sadhu saapa it is suggested that > > > > > 1.Chanting " OM NAMO BHAGAVATE SAINAATHAYA " - 108 times in > the > > > > morning > > > > > and evening for a period of 40 days. > > > > > 2.Read " SAI SATCHARITA " during this period. > > > > > 3.After the 40th day offer prayers at Shirdi on a Tuesday > > > lighting > > > > a > > > > > lamp using til tel. Offer " Chaamara " ( hand fan) to Shri > > > SAINAATHA. > > > > > Perform Rudraabhisheka to the Paada. > > > > > 4.Offer food packets/feed the poor. > > > > > 5.Pray fervently to remove the curse and request SAINATHA to > > > > forgive for > > > > > past mistakes. > > > > > > > > > > After this offer your Sukra Hora to GANAPATI. > > > > > > > > > > i am not going into other remedial measures as these may be > > known > > > > > already. > > > > > > > > > > Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > 8th house is called as Nirmala kshetra because it behaves > like > > a > > > > mirror > > > > > reflecting the karmic load of the jivaas. Reflection is > fruits > > of > > > > > darshana which is the 10th house. 11th from the 10th house > is > > > the > > > > fruit. > > > > > In this sense 8th is considered as mirror. If given > importance > > > the > > > > > mirror is bound to reflect. Once reflected we understand the > > > > urgency to > > > > > shed off the load. In this way it helps remove the > > > mala/impurities > > > > of > > > > > the past. This is a powerful Rudra karma. Accumulation of > > > unwanted > > > > > material is considered unnatural and is considered > cancerous. > > > The > > > > Jiva > > > > > has to facilitate the transformation of the unwanted > resources > > > > kept in > > > > > possession out of ignorance. This is also Rudra Aaradana. > How > > to > > > > use > > > > > this principle? See the 8th placed planet(if no planet > choose > > > the > > > > Lord) > > > > > from the karakaamsha and offer the Hora to the Lord by way > of > > > > chanting > > > > > Savitur Gayathri or " OM NAMO NAARAAYANAYA " . > > > > > > > > > > As usual i am sorry for the length of the mail. If i had > > exceeded > > > > > somewhere in explaining certain issues i am sorry for the > same. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri RamNarayananaji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste . > > > > > > > > > > > > You seem to be informed. > > > > > > > > > > > > But Your technical language is a little difficult to > > > > > > > > > > > > uinderstand. If You would be kind enough to > > > > > > > > > > > > explain what you have explained with illustrations > > > > > > > > > > > > of my Chart, i would consider myself fortunate and blessed. > > > > > > > > > > > > My Birth details- > > > > > > > > > > > > 28th June 1961. > > > > > > > > > > > > 10.14am > > > > > > > > > > > > Eluru ( near Vijaywada) > > > > > > > > > > > > 16.45N 81.09E > > > > > > > > > > > > Leo Lagna (Vargottama). > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope you would be kind enough to explain through my > example > > > Birth > > > > > Chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > > > > > sree88ganesha@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive your response which is as > > > usual > > > > full > > > > > of > > > > > > > warmth. i understand that much discussions have been > done > > > > during > > > > > these > > > > > > > days. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i shall move on to Chandra soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As regards 4th the same is called as the kshetra > > > of 'shuddhi', > > > > while > > > > > > 8th > > > > > > > is called the 'nirmala kshetra' and 12th is called > > > > as 'yoganidra > > > > > > > kshetra'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The word moksha hints at liberating the 'jiva' from the > > > > clutches of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > graha. The dharmaamsa chart will play a powerful role in > > this > > > > > regard. > > > > > > > This means locate the atmakaraka graha in the navamsa > > chart. > > > > See the > > > > > > > 12th from it. This is called as 'jivanmukthaamsa'. The > > > planet > > > > placed > > > > > > > there or the Lord would give you the hint about > the 'Ishta > > > > devatha' > > > > > > who > > > > > > > when turned to would do the needful. The " Ishta Devatha " > > > > should be > > > > > > > considered as the 'bhokthri' while the atmakaraka should > be > > > > > considered > > > > > > > as the 'bhogya'. The hora of the atmakaraka is to be > > offered > > > to > > > > > Ishta > > > > > > > devatha on a daily basis by chanting the 'nama' . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 4th from Karaakamsa will indicate the 'gati'. The > 4th > > > > placed > > > > > > planet > > > > > > > will give you hint about that devatha who would cause > these > > > > changes > > > > > in > > > > > > > gathi. This devatha would act as MA and would be doing > the > > > job > > > > of > > > > > > > cleansing. Dasa Maha Vidya function begins here. > > > > > > > " Gatistvam.............Bhavani " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 8th stands for the 'Rna' that needs to be disposed > off. > > > > See the > > > > > > > planet in the 8th from Atmakaraka or see the lord of 8th > > from > > > > > > karakamsa. > > > > > > > Offer that Hora of that planet to the Lord chanting > Savitur > > > > Gayathri > > > > > > or > > > > > > > " OM NAMO NARAYANAYA " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brahma Samhita speaks about Goloka which is beyond the > > > sphere > > > > of > > > > > > grahas. > > > > > > > May the Lord bless us all this Supreme Bliss of HIS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i shall stop now and continue later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > > > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > > > mishra.lalit@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx for posting such a nice enlightenning post to > > group, > > > > there > > > > > was > > > > > > > > enough food for thoughts, I took time to reply to u as > i > > > > wanted to > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > if our members are really trying to update their > existing > > > > > knowledge > > > > > > > > base, i m not very appreciative of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now as enough time has been spent and Mahashivaratri > is > > > also > > > > over, > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > day, the way Lord Shiva managed a Rudrabhisheka for me > has > > > > > > overwhelmed > > > > > > > > me, I had even not a single Vilva Patra and I was > given > > > > everything > > > > > > > > ready, just in couple of seconds, This also gives me > > > enough > > > > self > > > > > > > > confidence that I m right in my approach, several > times i > > > m > > > > said > > > > > to > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > to write openly about spiritual experiences, Sorry I > do > > > it, > > > > coz, > > > > > > Good > > > > > > > > has to be known to everyone, to spread everywhere, and > > > ego ? > > > > what > > > > > > ego > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > there, when we know all is God's maya and all the > > > recepients > > > > are > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > souls like me, as near to God as me is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, I think time has come back to learn about the > > > > exaltations > > > > > from > > > > > > u, > > > > > > > > Pls. be kind to me and to group and tell us from ur > > > treasure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <sree88ganesha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive your > mail. > > > i > > > > am > > > > > happy > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > note > > > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > deep interest in the subject. i am > just > > > back > > > > from > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > schedule. > > > > > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shall > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be away for a few more days - Siva > Ratri > > > is > > > > round > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > corner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i feel that every pravesha has a > definite > > > > > > > > > significance. > > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mean that i am trying to belittle the > > > thithi > > > > > > pravesha > > > > > > > > > > > theory. > > > > > > > > > > > > > We > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shall > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go into this later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i just came across our respected > > > > Chandrasekharji's > > > > > > > > > > > > observation > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > connection with exaltation and > > > debilitation > > > > of > > > > > > grahas. > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through others observation. i am sorry > > for > > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me take up one by one. You can > stop > > me > > > > when > > > > > > > > > you/the > > > > > > > > > > > group > > > > > > > > > > > > > > feels > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is boring. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir P.S. RamNarain Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar, Hope u r fine there and > > doing > > > > well, > > > > > > From > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > Group > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > side, We > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are expecting u to complete ur > > > interesting > > > > > article > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > exaltation in which u indicated > Kurma > > > > Avtaar's > > > > > > > > > > > > significations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > undestanding the exaltation theories. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. find some time for our sake, I > w'd > > > > also > > > > > > request > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > throw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > light on significations of Tithi > > Pravesha > > > > > charts, > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > sr. > > > > > > > > > > > > > member > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > group has requested for that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Dear lalitji, A small correction, if You allow me. A person who can develop himself spiritually to a level where he can hear the anahata naad, or the sound of omnipresent omniscient, omnipotent Om, for this person, the step towards self realization gets over. He needs nothing to know more, for through this naad his 3rd eye ,the Agya chakra is fully awakened and he has the answers to all he is seeking, has seeked, or would be seeking. This is not easy to achieve, regards, Bhaskar. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <mishra.lalit wrote: > > Bhaskar Ji, > > Namaskaar, When for sometime (depends case to case) we remain 'Normal > Naitika' our " JyotishMati " awakens, We need not make any definition, > rather we need to understand the definition inherent to the universe, > > We need to hear the Anahat's naad, this naad is refreshing like > taking a good bath, then the steps towards self realization begins. > > It's all practical and a must to achieve, quite achievable, there is > no doubt at all. > > regards, > Lalit. > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Lalitji, > > > > We Indians, most of us, > > are certainly 'Kritigya' and > > display our kritagyta which is nothing > > extraordinary but 'Normal 'Naitikta' > > (Duty, Ethics and norms). This > > krigayta is the reason for me not going to > > meet Mother in a defiled manner. > > Here defiled means not being at par of > > my own paribhasha (definition)of being a > > proper yaachaka or a good son. > > I have my own scales of judgement for > > a good astrologer, a good sadhaka, a good > > man, a good friend etc.and here I fall > > short from own made levels which may be > > around 200 years old. therefore meet > > I must, but not yet ready. > > > > I am grateful to all the Gods and Goddesses, > > and Lord Shri Krishna is fully looking after > > me and giving me more than what I am worth. > > I do not see the Lord and Ma as different. > > They are just 2 Forms of the Whole or One. > > One is the female manifestation. > > A simple reading of the Durga Chalisa would > > suffice to know that all is one. > > > > Yes I may have less knowledge of > > the sadhana of Ma Tara, and her > > devotees, is true. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > Your knowledge about Tara Maa's sadhan and about her devotees are > > > very limited, See, I have never been in any of the tantra > schools, > > > but whenever it was required, mother sent so many tantra siddhas > > to > > > me. > > > > > > Once in Bhopal, Maa Tara sent her great sadhaka to me, you are > > > totally wrong in ur perception of vama marga/dakshhina maarga. > > > > > > Mother does ( " Ahetuki Kripa " ), I mean the blessings that u never > > > desired. > > > > > > We indians are forgetting being grateful - " Kritagyata " . Pls. > show > > > tha same sothat we youngsters can learn from u. > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri RamaNarayananji, > > > > > > > > I am curious and wish to know more > > > > about you. > > > > Your age, and experience in astrology > > > > and other professional areas, if you wish > > > > to share. > > > > I am curious because of 2 aspects. > > > > > > > > 1) Normally invoking Ma Tara is not > > > > prescribed wantonly. Though i find > > > > a SJC disciple doing this often, for which > > > > I have in an freindly way, obstructed to > > > > his such sugeestions to all and sundry > > > > natives coming to him with queries. > > > > This invocation is done mostly by the > > > > left handed panth, Aghoris. Normal > > > > householders would dare not do it. > > > > Because she is Smashan Tara and one > > > > of the MahaVidyas, who cannot be > > > > approached by normal persons of lust, > > > > Kama,Krodha and Lobha, which at least I > > > > possess in few measures, if not in much. > > > > These are dangerous ways to tread upon, > > > > and one may have to part with his Life, > > > > with a single wrong mistake or even a > > > > wrong thought entering his mind during > > > > the invocations. Though I am very much > > > > aligned to the astral sphere, > > > > but I would dare not do this > > > > approaching before I cleanse myself. > > > > > > > > 2) Sainath if You mean SaiBaba, > > > > is not a God, but a messenger of > > > > God, and a human. I do worship of him > > > > daily, but if a detailed Pooja has to > > > > be done, I would prefer to do of his > > > > Lord Dattatreyaji. > > > > Would not be Shri Hanumanji more > > > > pleased if I do recitation of > > > > Shri Ram Jaya Rama Jay Jaya Ram, > > > > and is He not present wherever a > > > > auspicious recital of > > > > Ramayana is done ? In same way > > > > instead of doiing too much > > > > worship of any human being who > > > > has perished, though > > > > he may be a saint, is secondarily > > > > preferable to me, primarily I would > > > > prefer to live Life as per His teachings, > > > > rather than pray to His photo.I > > > > would prefer praying to the Avatars or > > > > the MahaVishnu Himself. > > > > > > > > As regards Jyotisha, my Order of > > > > devotion and belief is thus, > > > > > > > > 1) Belief in ones own Karma,his actions. > > > > 2) Belief in God. > > > > 3) Belief in Jyotisha. > > > > > > > > So i give preference to Jyotisha on the > > > > last level of this 3 Tier. > > > > > > > > As regards to remedial measures, I have a faith > > > > that if a person is good, behaves good'with all, > > > > performs his duties well,lives life as per the > > > > injunctions laid by God, the God would Himself > > > > help the native to overcome his purva paap, > > > > by bringing remedies in His Life, > > > > from time to time, so that His Bhakta is > > > > absolved of thepast sins, and made > > > > to reach nearer to Himself, ie. towards Godhead. > > > > > > > > But the above by no means, should suggest, > > > > that I do not believe in doing Remedial > > > > 'measures, Japa, Mantras, worship etcetra. > > > > > > > > This would depend from a person to person, > > > > on availibility of time, the inclinations > > > > and the family atmosphere he is living in, > > > > which must also be favourable to make him > > > > do the above. The outward influences > > > > and sorroundings do play a major role > > > > in ones spiritual upliftment, and not just > > > > depend on a individual alone. > > > > > > > > best regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri RamNarayananji, > > > > > > > > > > Please accept my heartfelt thanks for analysing > > > > > my chart the way you did, which was unique, and > > > > > your time and efforts given to studying the other > > > > > divisional charts. You are the only one person > > > > > who has been able to spiritually > > > > > diaognise my chart uptil now. > > > > > > > > > > Though I am interested in overcoming the spiritual > > > > > astral entities and this plane, with my Sadhana, > > > > > and keeping in touch directly with the astral sphere, > > > > > yet I worship only the Mahamantras and the Lord Ram, > > > > > Krishna and Shiva.Primarily, the form of Vishnu > > > > > (Narayana with Discus ,Lotus, Conch and gada), > > > > > is the form of Narayana I adore and worship. > > > > > > > > > > Ma Tara would be difficult for me to handle, > > > > > and invoke, not yet ready for her > > > > > worship - ritually, at least not presently, > > > > > few years hence, I would not know. > > > > > Then how to go about it when I am not ready ? > > > > > > > > > > Another point - When would I meet this sadhu > > > > > who would change my name ? My name has already been > > > > > changed from Krishna to Bhaskar, in Jyotish > > > > > profession, but this change has been brought > > > > > about by myself, and not through any Sadhu. > > > > > > > > > > Sainatha and Lord Dattatreya I am already > > > > > worshipping,though give major time only to > > > > > Lord Krishna. > > > > > > > > > > Food packets etc. are going regularly from me, > > > > > more than 30-40% of my income per month is spent > > > > > regularly on such activities ,since few years, > > > > > though this may be unrelaistic percentage to you, > > > > > but this is so due to the Lords grace. I always > > > > > believe whatever is mines is given from HIm to > > > > > share with those lower than me,in income brackets. > > > > > Though I face tough opposition from Home, > > > > > for squandering larger share my income in this > > > > > manner, but never allow anyone to rule me, in > > > > > these decesions. > > > > > > > > > > I hope you would answer my queries put up, > > > > > which may be simple for you, > > > > > but lot of meaning for me. > > > > > > > > > > Last Query - Do You see meacquiring kaivalya > > > > > in this Birth itself, if continous > > > > > efforts are made for self development on > > > > > spiritual angels by myself ? > > > > > > > > > > kind regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > > > > <sree88ganesha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Bhaskar ji & Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive responses. i shall make an > > > > attempt > > > > > to > > > > > > answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > Soorya is also called as Bhaskar. Every graha has a Soorya > > > Roopa > > > > of > > > > > > which Ketu's Soorya Roopa is called as Bhaskara. This name > > > > > suggests that > > > > > > we look into the role of Ketu in the chart of Shri Bhaskar. > > i > > > am > > > > > happy > > > > > > to note the presence of Ketu in 12th to Karakamsa (Venus is > > the > > > > > > Atmakaraka in the chart). This gives a hint that the bija > > > > > necessary to > > > > > > cause liberation/freedom from the clutches of grahas has > > > already > > > > > been > > > > > > sown. Is the 'vriksha' growing? Is there a problem to the > > > growth > > > > > of this > > > > > > Vriksha? Let us have a closer look at Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > Rasi chart: - Ketu is placed in 7th in kumbha with Mantra > > and > > > > > Maatri > > > > > > paadas, influenced by Mars(rahu's influence goes without > > > saying) > > > > > from > > > > > > Lagna. The powerful influence of Mars(anger and > frustration) > > and > > > > > > Rahu(shock and deception) induces Ketu (who represents > > > > a 'Sadhu') > > > > > to > > > > > > curse. This gives a hint about the generation of Sarpa > yoga > > > and > > > > a > > > > > > development of keen interest in unraveling the mysteries > > > > > surrounding > > > > > > spirits and smashan. > > > > > > > > > > > > Navamsa chart: - Ketu is placed in Vrischika and is subject > > to > > > > the > > > > > > influence of Sani, Rahu & Mars. All the four are placed in > > > > kendras > > > > > to > > > > > > Navamsa lagna. This reinforces the intensity of the yogas > > > > > mentioned in > > > > > > rasi chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Shastiyamsa chart: - Ketu is placed in Meena and is again > > > > subject > > > > > to the > > > > > > influence of Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > From all this we can infer that the native is subject to > the > > > > curse > > > > > of a > > > > > > Sanyasin/Sadhu. This curse needs to be addressed and > removed > > so > > > > as > > > > > to > > > > > > facilitate the blessings of Ishta devatha in the form of > > Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > Once this curse is removed the blessings of Ishta devatha > > would > > > > > flow. > > > > > > How do we understand the curse is removed? The very same > > Sadhu > > > > > would > > > > > > bless with a new name!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > The 8th lord from Karakamsha is Moon. He is found placed > in > > > 7th > > > > to > > > > > > karakamsha indicating the Rna to the soulmate. This Moon is > > > > > playing the > > > > > > role of Putrakaraka and is also the significator of > > > > > shisyas/followers > > > > > > and all the clients(Moon rules Vikrama pada). Moon is the > > Kaala > > > > > Lord in > > > > > > the diagram. This means the vision about these > > significations > > > > > needs to > > > > > > be addressed. Since Moon is the Kaala lord remedies are to > > be > > > > done > > > > > to > > > > > > have a directional change. This has to be followed by > > offering > > > > the > > > > > Hora > > > > > > of Moon to the Lord by Chanting " OM NAMO NAARAYANAYA " . > > > > > > > > > > > > The 4th Lord from the Karakamsha is Guru(no planet tenants > > > Meena > > > > in > > > > > > navamsa). MA TARA when invoked would change the gati. > Before > > > > > embarking > > > > > > on this it is to be borne that the Guru is seen cursing in > > > > > shastyamsa. > > > > > > This Brahamana saapa needs to be removed. > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is the Atmakaraka and is placed in Mesha (in Kroora > > > > > shastyamsa) in > > > > > > 9th in rasi chart. This Venus is being influenced by Sani > > and > > > > Rahu > > > > > in > > > > > > shastyamsa in chart indicating the reasons of this birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > To remove the Sadhu saapa it is suggested that > > > > > > 1.Chanting " OM NAMO BHAGAVATE SAINAATHAYA " - 108 times in > > the > > > > > morning > > > > > > and evening for a period of 40 days. > > > > > > 2.Read " SAI SATCHARITA " during this period. > > > > > > 3.After the 40th day offer prayers at Shirdi on a Tuesday > > > > lighting > > > > > a > > > > > > lamp using til tel. Offer " Chaamara " ( hand fan) to Shri > > > > SAINAATHA. > > > > > > Perform Rudraabhisheka to the Paada. > > > > > > 4.Offer food packets/feed the poor. > > > > > > 5.Pray fervently to remove the curse and request SAINATHA > to > > > > > forgive for > > > > > > past mistakes. > > > > > > > > > > > > After this offer your Sukra Hora to GANAPATI. > > > > > > > > > > > > i am not going into other remedial measures as these may be > > > known > > > > > > already. > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th house is called as Nirmala kshetra because it behaves > > like > > > a > > > > > mirror > > > > > > reflecting the karmic load of the jivaas. Reflection is > > fruits > > > of > > > > > > darshana which is the 10th house. 11th from the 10th house > > is > > > > the > > > > > fruit. > > > > > > In this sense 8th is considered as mirror. If given > > importance > > > > the > > > > > > mirror is bound to reflect. Once reflected we understand > the > > > > > urgency to > > > > > > shed off the load. In this way it helps remove the > > > > mala/impurities > > > > > of > > > > > > the past. This is a powerful Rudra karma. Accumulation of > > > > unwanted > > > > > > material is considered unnatural and is considered > > cancerous. > > > > The > > > > > Jiva > > > > > > has to facilitate the transformation of the unwanted > > resources > > > > > kept in > > > > > > possession out of ignorance. This is also Rudra Aaradana. > > How > > > to > > > > > use > > > > > > this principle? See the 8th placed planet(if no planet > > choose > > > > the > > > > > Lord) > > > > > > from the karakaamsha and offer the Hora to the Lord by way > > of > > > > > chanting > > > > > > Savitur Gayathri or " OM NAMO NAARAAYANAYA " . > > > > > > > > > > > > As usual i am sorry for the length of the mail. If i had > > > exceeded > > > > > > somewhere in explaining certain issues i am sorry for the > > same. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > > > --- In Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri RamNarayananaji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You seem to be informed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Your technical language is a little difficult to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uinderstand. If You would be kind enough to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > explain what you have explained with illustrations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of my Chart, i would consider myself fortunate and > blessed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Birth details- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 28th June 1961. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10.14am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eluru ( near Vijaywada) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 16.45N 81.09E > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Leo Lagna (Vargottama). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope you would be kind enough to explain through my > > example > > > > Birth > > > > > > Chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > > > > > > sree88ganesha@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive your response which is > as > > > > usual > > > > > full > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > warmth. i understand that much discussions have been > > done > > > > > during > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > days. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i shall move on to Chandra soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As regards 4th the same is called as the kshetra > > > > of 'shuddhi', > > > > > while > > > > > > > 8th > > > > > > > > is called the 'nirmala kshetra' and 12th is called > > > > > as 'yoganidra > > > > > > > > kshetra'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The word moksha hints at liberating the 'jiva' from the > > > > > clutches of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > graha. The dharmaamsa chart will play a powerful role > in > > > this > > > > > > regard. > > > > > > > > This means locate the atmakaraka graha in the navamsa > > > chart. > > > > > See the > > > > > > > > 12th from it. This is called as 'jivanmukthaamsa'. The > > > > planet > > > > > placed > > > > > > > > there or the Lord would give you the hint about > > the 'Ishta > > > > > devatha' > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > when turned to would do the needful. The " Ishta > Devatha " > > > > > should be > > > > > > > > considered as the 'bhokthri' while the atmakaraka > should > > be > > > > > > considered > > > > > > > > as the 'bhogya'. The hora of the atmakaraka is to be > > > offered > > > > to > > > > > > Ishta > > > > > > > > devatha on a daily basis by chanting the 'nama' . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 4th from Karaakamsa will indicate the 'gati'. The > > 4th > > > > > placed > > > > > > > planet > > > > > > > > will give you hint about that devatha who would cause > > these > > > > > changes > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > gathi. This devatha would act as MA and would be doing > > the > > > > job > > > > > of > > > > > > > > cleansing. Dasa Maha Vidya function begins here. > > > > > > > > " Gatistvam.............Bhavani " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 8th stands for the 'Rna' that needs to be disposed > > off. > > > > > See the > > > > > > > > planet in the 8th from Atmakaraka or see the lord of > 8th > > > from > > > > > > > karakamsa. > > > > > > > > Offer that Hora of that planet to the Lord chanting > > Savitur > > > > > Gayathri > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > " OM NAMO NARAYANAYA " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brahma Samhita speaks about Goloka which is beyond the > > > > sphere > > > > > of > > > > > > > grahas. > > > > > > > > May the Lord bless us all this Supreme Bliss of HIS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i shall stop now and continue later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > > > > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > > > > mishra.lalit@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx for posting such a nice enlightenning post to > > > group, > > > > > there > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > enough food for thoughts, I took time to reply to u > as > > i > > > > > wanted to > > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > > if our members are really trying to update their > > existing > > > > > > knowledge > > > > > > > > > base, i m not very appreciative of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now as enough time has been spent and Mahashivaratri > > is > > > > also > > > > > over, > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > day, the way Lord Shiva managed a Rudrabhisheka for > me > > has > > > > > > > overwhelmed > > > > > > > > > me, I had even not a single Vilva Patra and I was > > given > > > > > everything > > > > > > > > > ready, just in couple of seconds, This also gives me > > > > enough > > > > > self > > > > > > > > > confidence that I m right in my approach, several > > times i > > > > m > > > > > said > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > to write openly about spiritual experiences, Sorry I > > do > > > > it, > > > > > coz, > > > > > > > Good > > > > > > > > > has to be known to everyone, to spread everywhere, > and > > > > ego ? > > > > > what > > > > > > > ego > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > there, when we know all is God's maya and all the > > > > recepients > > > > > are > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > souls like me, as near to God as me is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, I think time has come back to learn about the > > > > > exaltations > > > > > > from > > > > > > > u, > > > > > > > > > Pls. be kind to me and to group and tell us from ur > > > > treasure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <sree88ganesha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive your > > mail. > > > > i > > > > > am > > > > > > happy > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > note > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > deep interest in the subject. i am > > just > > > > back > > > > > from > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > schedule. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shall > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be away for a few more days - Siva > > Ratri > > > > is > > > > > round > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > corner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i feel that every pravesha has a > > definite > > > > > > > > > > significance. > > > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mean that i am trying to belittle the > > > > thithi > > > > > > > pravesha > > > > > > > > > > > > theory. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shall > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go into this later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i just came across our respected > > > > > Chandrasekharji's > > > > > > > > > > > > > observation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > connection with exaltation and > > > > debilitation > > > > > of > > > > > > > grahas. > > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through others observation. i am > sorry > > > for > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me take up one by one. You can > > stop > > > me > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > you/the > > > > > > > > > > > > group > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > feels > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is boring. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir P.S. RamNarain Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar, Hope u r fine there and > > > doing > > > > > well, > > > > > > > From > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > side, We > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are expecting u to complete ur > > > > interesting > > > > > > article > > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > exaltation in which u indicated > > Kurma > > > > > Avtaar's > > > > > > > > > > > > > significations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > undestanding the exaltation > theories. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. find some time for our sake, I > > w'd > > > > > also > > > > > > > request > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > throw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > light on significations of Tithi > > > Pravesha > > > > > > charts, > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > sr. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > member > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > group has requested for that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Bhaskar Ji, Namaskaar, After we hear the Anahata's Naad, We reach in the innermost circle but a sense of duality remains, We are hearing a voice, that does mean, source of the voice is different than us. Next Step is to realize this Anahat's naad is my own naada, I m the Shiva, Shivoaham ... Vibhum Vyapakam !! We need mother's pull to get to this plane, " Ishwar PraniDhaan " . It's when u feel the culmination of love, This is most well known spiritual personalities miss, Now, they bend over dumping the world with hundreds of the books . It has been quite easy for me, even i didnt try, Mother herself caused it to happen. She does it this way for everybody, who is not into Panditya rather have bhakti. regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear lalitji, > > A small correction, if You allow me. > > A person who can develop himself spiritually > to a level where he can hear the anahata naad, > or the sound of omnipresent omniscient, > omnipotent Om, for this person, the step > towards self realization gets over. > He needs nothing to know more, for > through this naad his 3rd eye ,the > Agya chakra is fully awakened and he has > the answers to all he is seeking, > has seeked, or would be seeking. > > This is not easy to achieve, > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > Bhaskar Ji, > > > > Namaskaar, When for sometime (depends case to case) we > remain 'Normal > > Naitika' our " JyotishMati " awakens, We need not make any > definition, > > rather we need to understand the definition inherent to the > universe, > > > > We need to hear the Anahat's naad, this naad is refreshing like > > taking a good bath, then the steps towards self realization begins. > > > > It's all practical and a must to achieve, quite achievable, there > is > > no doubt at all. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Lalitji, > > > > > > We Indians, most of us, > > > are certainly 'Kritigya' and > > > display our kritagyta which is nothing > > > extraordinary but 'Normal 'Naitikta' > > > (Duty, Ethics and norms). This > > > krigayta is the reason for me not going to > > > meet Mother in a defiled manner. > > > Here defiled means not being at par of > > > my own paribhasha (definition)of being a > > > proper yaachaka or a good son. > > > I have my own scales of judgement for > > > a good astrologer, a good sadhaka, a good > > > man, a good friend etc.and here I fall > > > short from own made levels which may be > > > around 200 years old. therefore meet > > > I must, but not yet ready. > > > > > > I am grateful to all the Gods and Goddesses, > > > and Lord Shri Krishna is fully looking after > > > me and giving me more than what I am worth. > > > I do not see the Lord and Ma as different. > > > They are just 2 Forms of the Whole or One. > > > One is the female manifestation. > > > A simple reading of the Durga Chalisa would > > > suffice to know that all is one. > > > > > > Yes I may have less knowledge of > > > the sadhana of Ma Tara, and her > > > devotees, is true. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > Your knowledge about Tara Maa's sadhan and about her devotees > are > > > > very limited, See, I have never been in any of the tantra > > schools, > > > > but whenever it was required, mother sent so many tantra > siddhas > > > to > > > > me. > > > > > > > > Once in Bhopal, Maa Tara sent her great sadhaka to me, you are > > > > totally wrong in ur perception of vama marga/dakshhina maarga. > > > > > > > > Mother does ( " Ahetuki Kripa " ), I mean the blessings that u > never > > > > desired. > > > > > > > > We indians are forgetting being grateful - " Kritagyata " . Pls. > > show > > > > tha same sothat we youngsters can learn from u. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , > > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri RamaNarayananji, > > > > > > > > > > I am curious and wish to know more > > > > > about you. > > > > > Your age, and experience in astrology > > > > > and other professional areas, if you wish > > > > > to share. > > > > > I am curious because of 2 aspects. > > > > > > > > > > 1) Normally invoking Ma Tara is not > > > > > prescribed wantonly. Though i find > > > > > a SJC disciple doing this often, for which > > > > > I have in an freindly way, obstructed to > > > > > his such sugeestions to all and sundry > > > > > natives coming to him with queries. > > > > > This invocation is done mostly by the > > > > > left handed panth, Aghoris. Normal > > > > > householders would dare not do it. > > > > > Because she is Smashan Tara and one > > > > > of the MahaVidyas, who cannot be > > > > > approached by normal persons of lust, > > > > > Kama,Krodha and Lobha, which at least I > > > > > possess in few measures, if not in much. > > > > > These are dangerous ways to tread upon, > > > > > and one may have to part with his Life, > > > > > with a single wrong mistake or even a > > > > > wrong thought entering his mind during > > > > > the invocations. Though I am very much > > > > > aligned to the astral sphere, > > > > > but I would dare not do this > > > > > approaching before I cleanse myself. > > > > > > > > > > 2) Sainath if You mean SaiBaba, > > > > > is not a God, but a messenger of > > > > > God, and a human. I do worship of him > > > > > daily, but if a detailed Pooja has to > > > > > be done, I would prefer to do of his > > > > > Lord Dattatreyaji. > > > > > Would not be Shri Hanumanji more > > > > > pleased if I do recitation of > > > > > Shri Ram Jaya Rama Jay Jaya Ram, > > > > > and is He not present wherever a > > > > > auspicious recital of > > > > > Ramayana is done ? In same way > > > > > instead of doiing too much > > > > > worship of any human being who > > > > > has perished, though > > > > > he may be a saint, is secondarily > > > > > preferable to me, primarily I would > > > > > prefer to live Life as per His teachings, > > > > > rather than pray to His photo.I > > > > > would prefer praying to the Avatars or > > > > > the MahaVishnu Himself. > > > > > > > > > > As regards Jyotisha, my Order of > > > > > devotion and belief is thus, > > > > > > > > > > 1) Belief in ones own Karma,his actions. > > > > > 2) Belief in God. > > > > > 3) Belief in Jyotisha. > > > > > > > > > > So i give preference to Jyotisha on the > > > > > last level of this 3 Tier. > > > > > > > > > > As regards to remedial measures, I have a faith > > > > > that if a person is good, behaves good'with all, > > > > > performs his duties well,lives life as per the > > > > > injunctions laid by God, the God would Himself > > > > > help the native to overcome his purva paap, > > > > > by bringing remedies in His Life, > > > > > from time to time, so that His Bhakta is > > > > > absolved of thepast sins, and made > > > > > to reach nearer to Himself, ie. towards Godhead. > > > > > > > > > > But the above by no means, should suggest, > > > > > that I do not believe in doing Remedial > > > > > 'measures, Japa, Mantras, worship etcetra. > > > > > > > > > > This would depend from a person to person, > > > > > on availibility of time, the inclinations > > > > > and the family atmosphere he is living in, > > > > > which must also be favourable to make him > > > > > do the above. The outward influences > > > > > and sorroundings do play a major role > > > > > in ones spiritual upliftment, and not just > > > > > depend on a individual alone. > > > > > > > > > > best regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri RamNarayananji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Please accept my heartfelt thanks for analysing > > > > > > my chart the way you did, which was unique, and > > > > > > your time and efforts given to studying the other > > > > > > divisional charts. You are the only one person > > > > > > who has been able to spiritually > > > > > > diaognise my chart uptil now. > > > > > > > > > > > > Though I am interested in overcoming the spiritual > > > > > > astral entities and this plane, with my Sadhana, > > > > > > and keeping in touch directly with the astral sphere, > > > > > > yet I worship only the Mahamantras and the Lord Ram, > > > > > > Krishna and Shiva.Primarily, the form of Vishnu > > > > > > (Narayana with Discus ,Lotus, Conch and gada), > > > > > > is the form of Narayana I adore and worship. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma Tara would be difficult for me to handle, > > > > > > and invoke, not yet ready for her > > > > > > worship - ritually, at least not presently, > > > > > > few years hence, I would not know. > > > > > > Then how to go about it when I am not ready ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Another point - When would I meet this sadhu > > > > > > who would change my name ? My name has already been > > > > > > changed from Krishna to Bhaskar, in Jyotish > > > > > > profession, but this change has been brought > > > > > > about by myself, and not through any Sadhu. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sainatha and Lord Dattatreya I am already > > > > > > worshipping,though give major time only to > > > > > > Lord Krishna. > > > > > > > > > > > > Food packets etc. are going regularly from me, > > > > > > more than 30-40% of my income per month is spent > > > > > > regularly on such activities ,since few years, > > > > > > though this may be unrelaistic percentage to you, > > > > > > but this is so due to the Lords grace. I always > > > > > > believe whatever is mines is given from HIm to > > > > > > share with those lower than me,in income brackets. > > > > > > Though I face tough opposition from Home, > > > > > > for squandering larger share my income in this > > > > > > manner, but never allow anyone to rule me, in > > > > > > these decesions. > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you would answer my queries put up, > > > > > > which may be simple for you, > > > > > > but lot of meaning for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Last Query - Do You see meacquiring kaivalya > > > > > > in this Birth itself, if continous > > > > > > efforts are made for self development on > > > > > > spiritual angels by myself ? > > > > > > > > > > > > kind regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > > > > > <sree88ganesha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Bhaskar ji & Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive responses. i shall make > an > > > > > attempt > > > > > > to > > > > > > > answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soorya is also called as Bhaskar. Every graha has a > Soorya > > > > Roopa > > > > > of > > > > > > > which Ketu's Soorya Roopa is called as Bhaskara. This > name > > > > > > suggests that > > > > > > > we look into the role of Ketu in the chart of Shri > Bhaskar. > > > i > > > > am > > > > > > happy > > > > > > > to note the presence of Ketu in 12th to Karakamsa (Venus > is > > > the > > > > > > > Atmakaraka in the chart). This gives a hint that the > bija > > > > > > necessary to > > > > > > > cause liberation/freedom from the clutches of grahas has > > > > already > > > > > > been > > > > > > > sown. Is the 'vriksha' growing? Is there a problem to > the > > > > growth > > > > > > of this > > > > > > > Vriksha? Let us have a closer look at Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rasi chart: - Ketu is placed in 7th in kumbha with > Mantra > > > and > > > > > > Maatri > > > > > > > paadas, influenced by Mars(rahu's influence goes without > > > > saying) > > > > > > from > > > > > > > Lagna. The powerful influence of Mars(anger and > > frustration) > > > and > > > > > > > Rahu(shock and deception) induces Ketu (who represents > > > > > a 'Sadhu') > > > > > > to > > > > > > > curse. This gives a hint about the generation of Sarpa > > yoga > > > > and > > > > > a > > > > > > > development of keen interest in unraveling the mysteries > > > > > > surrounding > > > > > > > spirits and smashan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Navamsa chart: - Ketu is placed in Vrischika and is > subject > > > to > > > > > the > > > > > > > influence of Sani, Rahu & Mars. All the four are placed > in > > > > > kendras > > > > > > to > > > > > > > Navamsa lagna. This reinforces the intensity of the > yogas > > > > > > mentioned in > > > > > > > rasi chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shastiyamsa chart: - Ketu is placed in Meena and is > again > > > > > subject > > > > > > to the > > > > > > > influence of Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From all this we can infer that the native is subject to > > the > > > > > curse > > > > > > of a > > > > > > > Sanyasin/Sadhu. This curse needs to be addressed and > > removed > > > so > > > > > as > > > > > > to > > > > > > > facilitate the blessings of Ishta devatha in the form of > > > Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once this curse is removed the blessings of Ishta > devatha > > > would > > > > > > flow. > > > > > > > How do we understand the curse is removed? The very same > > > Sadhu > > > > > > would > > > > > > > bless with a new name!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 8th lord from Karakamsha is Moon. He is found > placed > > in > > > > 7th > > > > > to > > > > > > > karakamsha indicating the Rna to the soulmate. This Moon > is > > > > > > playing the > > > > > > > role of Putrakaraka and is also the significator of > > > > > > shisyas/followers > > > > > > > and all the clients(Moon rules Vikrama pada). Moon is > the > > > Kaala > > > > > > Lord in > > > > > > > the diagram. This means the vision about these > > > significations > > > > > > needs to > > > > > > > be addressed. Since Moon is the Kaala lord remedies are > to > > > be > > > > > done > > > > > > to > > > > > > > have a directional change. This has to be followed by > > > offering > > > > > the > > > > > > Hora > > > > > > > of Moon to the Lord by Chanting " OM NAMO NAARAYANAYA " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 4th Lord from the Karakamsha is Guru(no planet > tenants > > > > Meena > > > > > in > > > > > > > navamsa). MA TARA when invoked would change the gati. > > Before > > > > > > embarking > > > > > > > on this it is to be borne that the Guru is seen cursing > in > > > > > > shastyamsa. > > > > > > > This Brahamana saapa needs to be removed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is the Atmakaraka and is placed in Mesha (in > Kroora > > > > > > shastyamsa) in > > > > > > > 9th in rasi chart. This Venus is being influenced by > Sani > > > and > > > > > Rahu > > > > > > in > > > > > > > shastyamsa in chart indicating the reasons of this birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To remove the Sadhu saapa it is suggested that > > > > > > > 1.Chanting " OM NAMO BHAGAVATE SAINAATHAYA " - 108 times > in > > > the > > > > > > morning > > > > > > > and evening for a period of 40 days. > > > > > > > 2.Read " SAI SATCHARITA " during this period. > > > > > > > 3.After the 40th day offer prayers at Shirdi on a > Tuesday > > > > > lighting > > > > > > a > > > > > > > lamp using til tel. Offer " Chaamara " ( hand fan) to Shri > > > > > SAINAATHA. > > > > > > > Perform Rudraabhisheka to the Paada. > > > > > > > 4.Offer food packets/feed the poor. > > > > > > > 5.Pray fervently to remove the curse and request > SAINATHA > > to > > > > > > forgive for > > > > > > > past mistakes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After this offer your Sukra Hora to GANAPATI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i am not going into other remedial measures as these may > be > > > > known > > > > > > > already. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th house is called as Nirmala kshetra because it > behaves > > > like > > > > a > > > > > > mirror > > > > > > > reflecting the karmic load of the jivaas. Reflection is > > > fruits > > > > of > > > > > > > darshana which is the 10th house. 11th from the 10th > house > > > is > > > > > the > > > > > > fruit. > > > > > > > In this sense 8th is considered as mirror. If given > > > importance > > > > > the > > > > > > > mirror is bound to reflect. Once reflected we understand > > the > > > > > > urgency to > > > > > > > shed off the load. In this way it helps remove the > > > > > mala/impurities > > > > > > of > > > > > > > the past. This is a powerful Rudra karma. Accumulation > of > > > > > unwanted > > > > > > > material is considered unnatural and is considered > > > cancerous. > > > > > The > > > > > > Jiva > > > > > > > has to facilitate the transformation of the unwanted > > > resources > > > > > > kept in > > > > > > > possession out of ignorance. This is also Rudra > Aaradana. > > > How > > > > to > > > > > > use > > > > > > > this principle? See the 8th placed planet(if no planet > > > choose > > > > > the > > > > > > Lord) > > > > > > > from the karakaamsha and offer the Hora to the Lord by > way > > > of > > > > > > chanting > > > > > > > Savitur Gayathri or " OM NAMO NAARAAYANAYA " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As usual i am sorry for the length of the mail. If i had > > > > exceeded > > > > > > > somewhere in explaining certain issues i am sorry for > the > > > same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > > > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > > > > --- In > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri RamNarayananaji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You seem to be informed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Your technical language is a little difficult to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uinderstand. If You would be kind enough to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > explain what you have explained with illustrations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of my Chart, i would consider myself fortunate and > > blessed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Birth details- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 28th June 1961. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10.14am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eluru ( near Vijaywada) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 16.45N 81.09E > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Leo Lagna (Vargottama). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope you would be kind enough to explain through my > > > example > > > > > Birth > > > > > > > Chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > > > > > > > sree88ganesha@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > > > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive your response which > is > > as > > > > > usual > > > > > > full > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > warmth. i understand that much discussions have been > > > done > > > > > > during > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > days. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i shall move on to Chandra soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As regards 4th the same is called as the kshetra > > > > > of 'shuddhi', > > > > > > while > > > > > > > > 8th > > > > > > > > > is called the 'nirmala kshetra' and 12th is called > > > > > > as 'yoganidra > > > > > > > > > kshetra'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The word moksha hints at liberating the 'jiva' from > the > > > > > > clutches of > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > graha. The dharmaamsa chart will play a powerful > role > > in > > > > this > > > > > > > regard. > > > > > > > > > This means locate the atmakaraka graha in the > navamsa > > > > chart. > > > > > > See the > > > > > > > > > 12th from it. This is called as 'jivanmukthaamsa'. > The > > > > > planet > > > > > > placed > > > > > > > > > there or the Lord would give you the hint about > > > the 'Ishta > > > > > > devatha' > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > when turned to would do the needful. The " Ishta > > Devatha " > > > > > > should be > > > > > > > > > considered as the 'bhokthri' while the atmakaraka > > should > > > be > > > > > > > considered > > > > > > > > > as the 'bhogya'. The hora of the atmakaraka is to be > > > > offered > > > > > to > > > > > > > Ishta > > > > > > > > > devatha on a daily basis by chanting the 'nama' . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 4th from Karaakamsa will indicate the 'gati'. > The > > > 4th > > > > > > placed > > > > > > > > planet > > > > > > > > > will give you hint about that devatha who would > cause > > > these > > > > > > changes > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > gathi. This devatha would act as MA and would be > doing > > > the > > > > > job > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > cleansing. Dasa Maha Vidya function begins here. > > > > > > > > > " Gatistvam.............Bhavani " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 8th stands for the 'Rna' that needs to be > disposed > > > off. > > > > > > See the > > > > > > > > > planet in the 8th from Atmakaraka or see the lord of > > 8th > > > > from > > > > > > > > karakamsa. > > > > > > > > > Offer that Hora of that planet to the Lord chanting > > > Savitur > > > > > > Gayathri > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > " OM NAMO NARAYANAYA " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brahma Samhita speaks about Goloka which is beyond > the > > > > > sphere > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > grahas. > > > > > > > > > May the Lord bless us all this Supreme Bliss of HIS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i shall stop now and continue later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > > > > > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > > > > > mishra.lalit@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx for posting such a nice enlightenning post > to > > > > group, > > > > > > there > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > enough food for thoughts, I took time to reply to > u > > as > > > i > > > > > > wanted to > > > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > > > if our members are really trying to update their > > > existing > > > > > > > knowledge > > > > > > > > > > base, i m not very appreciative of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now as enough time has been spent and > Mahashivaratri > > > is > > > > > also > > > > > > over, > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > day, the way Lord Shiva managed a Rudrabhisheka > for > > me > > > has > > > > > > > > overwhelmed > > > > > > > > > > me, I had even not a single Vilva Patra and I was > > > given > > > > > > everything > > > > > > > > > > ready, just in couple of seconds, This also gives > me > > > > > enough > > > > > > self > > > > > > > > > > confidence that I m right in my approach, several > > > times i > > > > > m > > > > > > said > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > to write openly about spiritual experiences, Sorry > I > > > do > > > > > it, > > > > > > coz, > > > > > > > > Good > > > > > > > > > > has to be known to everyone, to spread everywhere, > > and > > > > > ego ? > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > ego > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > there, when we know all is God's maya and all the > > > > > recepients > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > souls like me, as near to God as me is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, I think time has come back to learn about the > > > > > > exaltations > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > u, > > > > > > > > > > Pls. be kind to me and to group and tell us from > ur > > > > > treasure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <sree88ganesha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive > your > > > mail. > > > > > i > > > > > > am > > > > > > > happy > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > note > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > deep interest in the subject. i am > > > just > > > > > back > > > > > > from > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > schedule. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shall > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be away for a few more days - Siva > > > Ratri > > > > > is > > > > > > round > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > corner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i feel that every pravesha has a > > > definite > > > > > > > > > > > significance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mean that i am trying to belittle > the > > > > > thithi > > > > > > > > pravesha > > > > > > > > > > > > > theory. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shall > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go into this later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i just came across our respected > > > > > > Chandrasekharji's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > observation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > connection with exaltation and > > > > > debilitation > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > grahas. > > > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through others observation. i am > > sorry > > > > for > > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me take up one by one. You can > > > stop > > > > me > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > > you/the > > > > > > > > > > > > > group > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > feels > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is boring. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir P.S. RamNarain Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar, Hope u r fine there > and > > > > doing > > > > > > well, > > > > > > > > From > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > side, We > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are expecting u to complete ur > > > > > interesting > > > > > > > article > > > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > exaltation in which u indicated > > > Kurma > > > > > > Avtaar's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > significations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > undestanding the exaltation > > theories. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. find some time for our > sake, I > > > w'd > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > request > > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > throw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > light on significations of Tithi > > > > Pravesha > > > > > > > charts, > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > sr. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > member > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > group has requested for that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Bhai Lalitji, Pranam aapko. Namaskaar aapko. Mere paas toh, na itni Bhakti hai, na itni Shakti hai, aur na Panditya hai. Main jis din naad sun loonga aapka description confirm kar doonga. parantu lagta nahin ki mujhe 5-7 saal se kam lagenge meri aaj ki sthiti dekhte hue. Baaki Bhagwaan ki kripa kab baras jaaye so toh Prabhu hi jaane. Aapko Pranaam isliye kiya, kyonki aap Brahmin hai. Mujhe aapki umar se koi farak nahin padta. Aaapki buddhi ki thah kahan tak hai use mujhe koi sarokaar nahin, balki jmere liye to chota bachha agar Brahman (Mishra) ho toh bhi poojniyah hai. Aur aap toh prakhand pandit lagte ho mujhe. kind regards, Bhaskar. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <mishra.lalit wrote: > > Bhaskar Ji, > > Namaskaar, After we hear the Anahata's Naad, We reach in the > innermost circle but a sense of duality remains, We are hearing a > voice, that does mean, source of the voice is different than us. > > Next Step is to realize this Anahat's naad is my own naada, I m the > Shiva, Shivoaham ... Vibhum Vyapakam !! > > We need mother's pull to get to this plane, " Ishwar PraniDhaan " . > > It's when u feel the culmination of love, This is most well known > spiritual personalities miss, Now, they bend over dumping the world > with hundreds of the books . > > It has been quite easy for me, even i didnt try, Mother herself > caused it to happen. She does it this way for everybody, who is not > into Panditya rather have bhakti. > > regards, > Lalit. > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Dear lalitji, > > > > A small correction, if You allow me. > > > > A person who can develop himself spiritually > > to a level where he can hear the anahata naad, > > or the sound of omnipresent omniscient, > > omnipotent Om, for this person, the step > > towards self realization gets over. > > He needs nothing to know more, for > > through this naad his 3rd eye ,the > > Agya chakra is fully awakened and he has > > the answers to all he is seeking, > > has seeked, or would be seeking. > > > > This is not easy to achieve, > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > Namaskaar, When for sometime (depends case to case) we > > remain 'Normal > > > Naitika' our " JyotishMati " awakens, We need not make any > > definition, > > > rather we need to understand the definition inherent to the > > universe, > > > > > > We need to hear the Anahat's naad, this naad is refreshing like > > > taking a good bath, then the steps towards self realization > begins. > > > > > > It's all practical and a must to achieve, quite achievable, there > > is > > > no doubt at all. > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Lalitji, > > > > > > > > We Indians, most of us, > > > > are certainly 'Kritigya' and > > > > display our kritagyta which is nothing > > > > extraordinary but 'Normal 'Naitikta' > > > > (Duty, Ethics and norms). This > > > > krigayta is the reason for me not going to > > > > meet Mother in a defiled manner. > > > > Here defiled means not being at par of > > > > my own paribhasha (definition)of being a > > > > proper yaachaka or a good son. > > > > I have my own scales of judgement for > > > > a good astrologer, a good sadhaka, a good > > > > man, a good friend etc.and here I fall > > > > short from own made levels which may be > > > > around 200 years old. therefore meet > > > > I must, but not yet ready. > > > > > > > > I am grateful to all the Gods and Goddesses, > > > > and Lord Shri Krishna is fully looking after > > > > me and giving me more than what I am worth. > > > > I do not see the Lord and Ma as different. > > > > They are just 2 Forms of the Whole or One. > > > > One is the female manifestation. > > > > A simple reading of the Durga Chalisa would > > > > suffice to know that all is one. > > > > > > > > Yes I may have less knowledge of > > > > the sadhana of Ma Tara, and her > > > > devotees, is true. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > Your knowledge about Tara Maa's sadhan and about her devotees > > are > > > > > very limited, See, I have never been in any of the tantra > > > schools, > > > > > but whenever it was required, mother sent so many tantra > > siddhas > > > > to > > > > > me. > > > > > > > > > > Once in Bhopal, Maa Tara sent her great sadhaka to me, you > are > > > > > totally wrong in ur perception of vama marga/dakshhina maarga. > > > > > > > > > > Mother does ( " Ahetuki Kripa " ), I mean the blessings that u > > never > > > > > desired. > > > > > > > > > > We indians are forgetting being grateful - " Kritagyata " . Pls. > > > show > > > > > tha same sothat we youngsters can learn from u. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , > > > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri RamaNarayananji, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am curious and wish to know more > > > > > > about you. > > > > > > Your age, and experience in astrology > > > > > > and other professional areas, if you wish > > > > > > to share. > > > > > > I am curious because of 2 aspects. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Normally invoking Ma Tara is not > > > > > > prescribed wantonly. Though i find > > > > > > a SJC disciple doing this often, for which > > > > > > I have in an freindly way, obstructed to > > > > > > his such sugeestions to all and sundry > > > > > > natives coming to him with queries. > > > > > > This invocation is done mostly by the > > > > > > left handed panth, Aghoris. Normal > > > > > > householders would dare not do it. > > > > > > Because she is Smashan Tara and one > > > > > > of the MahaVidyas, who cannot be > > > > > > approached by normal persons of lust, > > > > > > Kama,Krodha and Lobha, which at least I > > > > > > possess in few measures, if not in much. > > > > > > These are dangerous ways to tread upon, > > > > > > and one may have to part with his Life, > > > > > > with a single wrong mistake or even a > > > > > > wrong thought entering his mind during > > > > > > the invocations. Though I am very much > > > > > > aligned to the astral sphere, > > > > > > but I would dare not do this > > > > > > approaching before I cleanse myself. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Sainath if You mean SaiBaba, > > > > > > is not a God, but a messenger of > > > > > > God, and a human. I do worship of him > > > > > > daily, but if a detailed Pooja has to > > > > > > be done, I would prefer to do of his > > > > > > Lord Dattatreyaji. > > > > > > Would not be Shri Hanumanji more > > > > > > pleased if I do recitation of > > > > > > Shri Ram Jaya Rama Jay Jaya Ram, > > > > > > and is He not present wherever a > > > > > > auspicious recital of > > > > > > Ramayana is done ? In same way > > > > > > instead of doiing too much > > > > > > worship of any human being who > > > > > > has perished, though > > > > > > he may be a saint, is secondarily > > > > > > preferable to me, primarily I would > > > > > > prefer to live Life as per His teachings, > > > > > > rather than pray to His photo.I > > > > > > would prefer praying to the Avatars or > > > > > > the MahaVishnu Himself. > > > > > > > > > > > > As regards Jyotisha, my Order of > > > > > > devotion and belief is thus, > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Belief in ones own Karma,his actions. > > > > > > 2) Belief in God. > > > > > > 3) Belief in Jyotisha. > > > > > > > > > > > > So i give preference to Jyotisha on the > > > > > > last level of this 3 Tier. > > > > > > > > > > > > As regards to remedial measures, I have a faith > > > > > > that if a person is good, behaves good'with all, > > > > > > performs his duties well,lives life as per the > > > > > > injunctions laid by God, the God would Himself > > > > > > help the native to overcome his purva paap, > > > > > > by bringing remedies in His Life, > > > > > > from time to time, so that His Bhakta is > > > > > > absolved of thepast sins, and made > > > > > > to reach nearer to Himself, ie. towards Godhead. > > > > > > > > > > > > But the above by no means, should suggest, > > > > > > that I do not believe in doing Remedial > > > > > > 'measures, Japa, Mantras, worship etcetra. > > > > > > > > > > > > This would depend from a person to person, > > > > > > on availibility of time, the inclinations > > > > > > and the family atmosphere he is living in, > > > > > > which must also be favourable to make him > > > > > > do the above. The outward influences > > > > > > and sorroundings do play a major role > > > > > > in ones spiritual upliftment, and not just > > > > > > depend on a individual alone. > > > > > > > > > > > > best regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri RamNarayananji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please accept my heartfelt thanks for analysing > > > > > > > my chart the way you did, which was unique, and > > > > > > > your time and efforts given to studying the other > > > > > > > divisional charts. You are the only one person > > > > > > > who has been able to spiritually > > > > > > > diaognise my chart uptil now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though I am interested in overcoming the spiritual > > > > > > > astral entities and this plane, with my Sadhana, > > > > > > > and keeping in touch directly with the astral sphere, > > > > > > > yet I worship only the Mahamantras and the Lord Ram, > > > > > > > Krishna and Shiva.Primarily, the form of Vishnu > > > > > > > (Narayana with Discus ,Lotus, Conch and gada), > > > > > > > is the form of Narayana I adore and worship. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma Tara would be difficult for me to handle, > > > > > > > and invoke, not yet ready for her > > > > > > > worship - ritually, at least not presently, > > > > > > > few years hence, I would not know. > > > > > > > Then how to go about it when I am not ready ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another point - When would I meet this sadhu > > > > > > > who would change my name ? My name has already been > > > > > > > changed from Krishna to Bhaskar, in Jyotish > > > > > > > profession, but this change has been brought > > > > > > > about by myself, and not through any Sadhu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sainatha and Lord Dattatreya I am already > > > > > > > worshipping,though give major time only to > > > > > > > Lord Krishna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Food packets etc. are going regularly from me, > > > > > > > more than 30-40% of my income per month is spent > > > > > > > regularly on such activities ,since few years, > > > > > > > though this may be unrelaistic percentage to you, > > > > > > > but this is so due to the Lords grace. I always > > > > > > > believe whatever is mines is given from HIm to > > > > > > > share with those lower than me,in income brackets. > > > > > > > Though I face tough opposition from Home, > > > > > > > for squandering larger share my income in this > > > > > > > manner, but never allow anyone to rule me, in > > > > > > > these decesions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you would answer my queries put up, > > > > > > > which may be simple for you, > > > > > > > but lot of meaning for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Last Query - Do You see meacquiring kaivalya > > > > > > > in this Birth itself, if continous > > > > > > > efforts are made for self development on > > > > > > > spiritual angels by myself ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kind regards, > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > > > > > > <sree88ganesha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Bhaskar ji & Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive responses. i shall make > > an > > > > > > attempt > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soorya is also called as Bhaskar. Every graha has a > > Soorya > > > > > Roopa > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > which Ketu's Soorya Roopa is called as Bhaskara. This > > name > > > > > > > suggests that > > > > > > > > we look into the role of Ketu in the chart of Shri > > Bhaskar. > > > > i > > > > > am > > > > > > > happy > > > > > > > > to note the presence of Ketu in 12th to Karakamsa > (Venus > > is > > > > the > > > > > > > > Atmakaraka in the chart). This gives a hint that the > > bija > > > > > > > necessary to > > > > > > > > cause liberation/freedom from the clutches of grahas > has > > > > > already > > > > > > > been > > > > > > > > sown. Is the 'vriksha' growing? Is there a problem to > > the > > > > > growth > > > > > > > of this > > > > > > > > Vriksha? Let us have a closer look at Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rasi chart: - Ketu is placed in 7th in kumbha with > > Mantra > > > > and > > > > > > > Maatri > > > > > > > > paadas, influenced by Mars(rahu's influence goes > without > > > > > saying) > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > Lagna. The powerful influence of Mars(anger and > > > frustration) > > > > and > > > > > > > > Rahu(shock and deception) induces Ketu (who represents > > > > > > a 'Sadhu') > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > curse. This gives a hint about the generation of Sarpa > > > yoga > > > > > and > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > development of keen interest in unraveling the > mysteries > > > > > > > surrounding > > > > > > > > spirits and smashan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Navamsa chart: - Ketu is placed in Vrischika and is > > subject > > > > to > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > influence of Sani, Rahu & Mars. All the four are placed > > in > > > > > > kendras > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > Navamsa lagna. This reinforces the intensity of the > > yogas > > > > > > > mentioned in > > > > > > > > rasi chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shastiyamsa chart: - Ketu is placed in Meena and is > > again > > > > > > subject > > > > > > > to the > > > > > > > > influence of Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From all this we can infer that the native is subject > to > > > the > > > > > > curse > > > > > > > of a > > > > > > > > Sanyasin/Sadhu. This curse needs to be addressed and > > > removed > > > > so > > > > > > as > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > facilitate the blessings of Ishta devatha in the form > of > > > > Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once this curse is removed the blessings of Ishta > > devatha > > > > would > > > > > > > flow. > > > > > > > > How do we understand the curse is removed? The very > same > > > > Sadhu > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > bless with a new name!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 8th lord from Karakamsha is Moon. He is found > > placed > > > in > > > > > 7th > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > karakamsha indicating the Rna to the soulmate. This > Moon > > is > > > > > > > playing the > > > > > > > > role of Putrakaraka and is also the significator of > > > > > > > shisyas/followers > > > > > > > > and all the clients(Moon rules Vikrama pada). Moon is > > the > > > > Kaala > > > > > > > Lord in > > > > > > > > the diagram. This means the vision about these > > > > significations > > > > > > > needs to > > > > > > > > be addressed. Since Moon is the Kaala lord remedies are > > to > > > > be > > > > > > done > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > have a directional change. This has to be followed by > > > > offering > > > > > > the > > > > > > > Hora > > > > > > > > of Moon to the Lord by Chanting " OM NAMO NAARAYANAYA " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 4th Lord from the Karakamsha is Guru(no planet > > tenants > > > > > Meena > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > navamsa). MA TARA when invoked would change the gati. > > > Before > > > > > > > embarking > > > > > > > > on this it is to be borne that the Guru is seen cursing > > in > > > > > > > shastyamsa. > > > > > > > > This Brahamana saapa needs to be removed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is the Atmakaraka and is placed in Mesha (in > > Kroora > > > > > > > shastyamsa) in > > > > > > > > 9th in rasi chart. This Venus is being influenced by > > Sani > > > > and > > > > > > Rahu > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > shastyamsa in chart indicating the reasons of this > birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To remove the Sadhu saapa it is suggested that > > > > > > > > 1.Chanting " OM NAMO BHAGAVATE SAINAATHAYA " - 108 times > > in > > > > the > > > > > > > morning > > > > > > > > and evening for a period of 40 days. > > > > > > > > 2.Read " SAI SATCHARITA " during this period. > > > > > > > > 3.After the 40th day offer prayers at Shirdi on a > > Tuesday > > > > > > lighting > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > lamp using til tel. Offer " Chaamara " ( hand fan) to > Shri > > > > > > SAINAATHA. > > > > > > > > Perform Rudraabhisheka to the Paada. > > > > > > > > 4.Offer food packets/feed the poor. > > > > > > > > 5.Pray fervently to remove the curse and request > > SAINATHA > > > to > > > > > > > forgive for > > > > > > > > past mistakes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After this offer your Sukra Hora to GANAPATI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i am not going into other remedial measures as these > may > > be > > > > > known > > > > > > > > already. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th house is called as Nirmala kshetra because it > > behaves > > > > like > > > > > a > > > > > > > mirror > > > > > > > > reflecting the karmic load of the jivaas. Reflection is > > > > fruits > > > > > of > > > > > > > > darshana which is the 10th house. 11th from the 10th > > house > > > > is > > > > > > the > > > > > > > fruit. > > > > > > > > In this sense 8th is considered as mirror. If given > > > > importance > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > mirror is bound to reflect. Once reflected we > understand > > > the > > > > > > > urgency to > > > > > > > > shed off the load. In this way it helps remove the > > > > > > mala/impurities > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > the past. This is a powerful Rudra karma. Accumulation > > of > > > > > > unwanted > > > > > > > > material is considered unnatural and is considered > > > > cancerous. > > > > > > The > > > > > > > Jiva > > > > > > > > has to facilitate the transformation of the unwanted > > > > resources > > > > > > > kept in > > > > > > > > possession out of ignorance. This is also Rudra > > Aaradana. > > > > How > > > > > to > > > > > > > use > > > > > > > > this principle? See the 8th placed planet(if no planet > > > > choose > > > > > > the > > > > > > > Lord) > > > > > > > > from the karakaamsha and offer the Hora to the Lord by > > way > > > > of > > > > > > > chanting > > > > > > > > Savitur Gayathri or " OM NAMO NAARAAYANAYA " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As usual i am sorry for the length of the mail. If i > had > > > > > exceeded > > > > > > > > somewhere in explaining certain issues i am sorry for > > the > > > > same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > > > > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > > > > > --- In > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri RamNarayananaji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You seem to be informed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Your technical language is a little difficult to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uinderstand. If You would be kind enough to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > explain what you have explained with illustrations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of my Chart, i would consider myself fortunate and > > > blessed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Birth details- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 28th June 1961. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10.14am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eluru ( near Vijaywada) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 16.45N 81.09E > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Leo Lagna (Vargottama). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope you would be kind enough to explain through my > > > > example > > > > > > Birth > > > > > > > > Chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > > > > > > > > sree88ganesha@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > > > > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive your response which > > is > > > as > > > > > > usual > > > > > > > full > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > warmth. i understand that much discussions have > been > > > > done > > > > > > > during > > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > > days. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i shall move on to Chandra soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As regards 4th the same is called as the kshetra > > > > > > of 'shuddhi', > > > > > > > while > > > > > > > > > 8th > > > > > > > > > > is called the 'nirmala kshetra' and 12th is called > > > > > > > as 'yoganidra > > > > > > > > > > kshetra'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The word moksha hints at liberating the 'jiva' from > > the > > > > > > > clutches of > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > graha. The dharmaamsa chart will play a powerful > > role > > > in > > > > > this > > > > > > > > regard. > > > > > > > > > > This means locate the atmakaraka graha in the > > navamsa > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > See the > > > > > > > > > > 12th from it. This is called as 'jivanmukthaamsa'. > > The > > > > > > planet > > > > > > > placed > > > > > > > > > > there or the Lord would give you the hint about > > > > the 'Ishta > > > > > > > devatha' > > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > when turned to would do the needful. The " Ishta > > > Devatha " > > > > > > > should be > > > > > > > > > > considered as the 'bhokthri' while the atmakaraka > > > should > > > > be > > > > > > > > considered > > > > > > > > > > as the 'bhogya'. The hora of the atmakaraka is to > be > > > > > offered > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > Ishta > > > > > > > > > > devatha on a daily basis by chanting the 'nama' . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 4th from Karaakamsa will indicate the 'gati'. > > The > > > > 4th > > > > > > > placed > > > > > > > > > planet > > > > > > > > > > will give you hint about that devatha who would > > cause > > > > these > > > > > > > changes > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > gathi. This devatha would act as MA and would be > > doing > > > > the > > > > > > job > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > cleansing. Dasa Maha Vidya function begins here. > > > > > > > > > > " Gatistvam.............Bhavani " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 8th stands for the 'Rna' that needs to be > > disposed > > > > off. > > > > > > > See the > > > > > > > > > > planet in the 8th from Atmakaraka or see the lord > of > > > 8th > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > karakamsa. > > > > > > > > > > Offer that Hora of that planet to the Lord chanting > > > > Savitur > > > > > > > Gayathri > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > " OM NAMO NARAYANAYA " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brahma Samhita speaks about Goloka which is beyond > > the > > > > > > sphere > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > grahas. > > > > > > > > > > May the Lord bless us all this Supreme Bliss of HIS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i shall stop now and continue later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > > > > > > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > > > > > > mishra.lalit@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx for posting such a nice enlightenning post > > to > > > > > group, > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > enough food for thoughts, I took time to reply to > > u > > > as > > > > i > > > > > > > wanted to > > > > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > > > > if our members are really trying to update their > > > > existing > > > > > > > > knowledge > > > > > > > > > > > base, i m not very appreciative of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now as enough time has been spent and > > Mahashivaratri > > > > is > > > > > > also > > > > > > > over, > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > day, the way Lord Shiva managed a Rudrabhisheka > > for > > > me > > > > has > > > > > > > > > overwhelmed > > > > > > > > > > > me, I had even not a single Vilva Patra and I was > > > > given > > > > > > > everything > > > > > > > > > > > ready, just in couple of seconds, This also gives > > me > > > > > > enough > > > > > > > self > > > > > > > > > > > confidence that I m right in my approach, several > > > > times i > > > > > > m > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > to write openly about spiritual experiences, > Sorry > > I > > > > do > > > > > > it, > > > > > > > coz, > > > > > > > > > Good > > > > > > > > > > > has to be known to everyone, to spread > everywhere, > > > and > > > > > > ego ? > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > > ego > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > there, when we know all is God's maya and all the > > > > > > recepients > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > > souls like me, as near to God as me is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, I think time has come back to learn about > the > > > > > > > exaltations > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > u, > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. be kind to me and to group and tell us from > > ur > > > > > > treasure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <sree88ganesha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive > > your > > > > mail. > > > > > > i > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > happy > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > note > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > deep interest in the subject. i > am > > > > just > > > > > > back > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > schedule. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shall > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be away for a few more days - > Siva > > > > Ratri > > > > > > is > > > > > > > round > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > corner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i feel that every pravesha has a > > > > definite > > > > > > > > > > > > significance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mean that i am trying to belittle > > the > > > > > > thithi > > > > > > > > > pravesha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > theory. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shall > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go into this later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i just came across our respected > > > > > > > Chandrasekharji's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > observation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > connection with exaltation and > > > > > > debilitation > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > grahas. > > > > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through others observation. i am > > > sorry > > > > > for > > > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me take up one by one. You > can > > > > stop > > > > > me > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > > > you/the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > group > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > feels > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is boring. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually > yours, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir P.S. RamNarain Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar, Hope u r fine there > > and > > > > > doing > > > > > > > well, > > > > > > > > > From > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > side, We > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are expecting u to complete ur > > > > > > interesting > > > > > > > > article > > > > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > exaltation in which u indicated > > > > Kurma > > > > > > > Avtaar's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > significations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > undestanding the exaltation > > > theories. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. find some time for our > > sake, I > > > > w'd > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > request > > > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > throw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > light on significations of > Tithi > > > > > Pravesha > > > > > > > > charts, > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > sr. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > member > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > group has requested for that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAMAUM GURUBYO NAMAHDear Shri Bhaskar ji,Namaste. i am moved by this straight-from-the-heart-mail. i am happy to note that your chanting Mahamantra.As regards Ma Tara she is indeed the one whom you should turn upon. You had diksha in your past birth and had worshiped Ma Tara. Her lessons are already on. Please see the aspects of Sun and Rahu being received by Guru in your shastyamsa. Guru is found placed in Makar. This Guru is the sign dispositor of Ketu in this diagram. This Guru is vakri and is placed in Makar in rasi diagram along with Sani indicating a forgotten promise/dishonored word of the past. You may go to Chottanikara and light a lamp there. There is nothing wrong in falling at her feet and praying to her to forgive your past mistakes. MA is karunya personified. Please do not doubt. There is nothing to handle here! i did not talk about any ritual. i did say that you should make attempts to remove the brahmana saapa before worshiping her so as to find her pleased. For your information the following vibrations at the temple can be considered as the best mantra for her worship "AMME NARAYANADEVI NARAYANALAKSHMI NARAYANABADRE NARAYANA".To me Mother is Mother. As regards your question as to when would you meet the sadhu i had suggested certain remedial measures to facilitate and quicken the happening of the event. Blessings of a Sadhu is a boon that one should earn for through sincere prayers.i am happy to note that you are worshiping Krishna. i have no doubts in the karunya of the Lord to ultimately bless you with what you desire/aspire. You may continue your prayers to Sri Krishna and leave the rest to Him.Best wishes.May Mother Bless.Astrologically & spiritually yours,p.s.ramanarayanan.Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> Dear Shri RamNarayananji,> > Please accept my heartfelt thanks for analysing> my chart the way you did, which was unique, and> your time and efforts given to studying the other> divisional charts. You are the only one person> who has been able to spiritually> diaognise my chart uptil now. > > Though I am interested in overcoming the spiritual> astral entities and this plane, with my Sadhana, > and keeping in touch directly with the astral sphere,> yet I worship only the Mahamantras and the Lord Ram,> Krishna and Shiva.Primarily, the form of Vishnu > (Narayana with Discus ,Lotus, Conch and gada),> is the form of Narayana I adore and worship. > > Ma Tara would be difficult for me to handle,> and invoke, not yet ready for her > worship - ritually, at least not presently,> few years hence, I would not know. > Then how to go about it when I am not ready ?> > Another point - When would I meet this sadhu> who would change my name ? My name has already been> changed from Krishna to Bhaskar, in Jyotish> profession, but this change has been brought> about by myself, and not through any Sadhu.> > Sainatha and Lord Dattatreya I am already > worshipping,though give major time only to > Lord Krishna.> > Food packets etc. are going regularly from me,> more than 30-40% of my income per month is spent> regularly on such activities ,since few years,> though this may be unrelaistic percentage to you,> but this is so due to the Lords grace. I always> believe whatever is mines is given from HIm to> share with those lower than me,in income brackets.> Though I face tough opposition from Home, > for squandering larger share my income in this> manner, but never allow anyone to rule me, in> these decesions.> > I hope you would answer my queries put up,> which may be simple for you,> but lot of meaning for me.> > Last Query - Do You see meacquiring kaivalya> in this Birth itself, if continous> efforts are made for self development on> spiritual angels by myself ?> > kind regards,> Bhaskar. > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "sree88ganesha" > sree88ganesha@ wrote:> >> > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM> > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH> > > > Dear Shri Bhaskar ji & Shri Lalit Mishra ji,> > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive responses. i shall make an attempt > to> > answer.> > > > Soorya is also called as Bhaskar. Every graha has a Soorya Roopa of> > which Ketu's Soorya Roopa is called as Bhaskara. This name > suggests that> > we look into the role of Ketu in the chart of Shri Bhaskar. i am > happy> > to note the presence of Ketu in 12th to Karakamsa (Venus is the> > Atmakaraka in the chart). This gives a hint that the bija > necessary to> > cause liberation/freedom from the clutches of grahas has already > been> > sown. Is the 'vriksha' growing? Is there a problem to the growth > of this> > Vriksha? Let us have a closer look at Ketu.> > > > Rasi chart: - Ketu is placed in 7th in kumbha with Mantra and > Maatri> > paadas, influenced by Mars(rahu's influence goes without saying) > from> > Lagna. The powerful influence of Mars(anger and frustration) and> > Rahu(shock and deception) induces Ketu (who represents a 'Sadhu') > to> > curse. This gives a hint about the generation of Sarpa yoga and a> > development of keen interest in unraveling the mysteries > surrounding> > spirits and smashan.> > > > Navamsa chart: - Ketu is placed in Vrischika and is subject to the> > influence of Sani, Rahu & Mars. All the four are placed in kendras > to> > Navamsa lagna. This reinforces the intensity of the yogas > mentioned in> > rasi chart.> > > > Shastiyamsa chart: - Ketu is placed in Meena and is again subject > to the> > influence of Mars.> > > > From all this we can infer that the native is subject to the curse > of a> > Sanyasin/Sadhu. This curse needs to be addressed and removed so as > to> > facilitate the blessings of Ishta devatha in the form of Ketu.> > > > Once this curse is removed the blessings of Ishta devatha would > flow.> > How do we understand the curse is removed? The very same Sadhu > would> > bless with a new name!!!> > > > The 8th lord from Karakamsha is Moon. He is found placed in 7th to> > karakamsha indicating the Rna to the soulmate. This Moon is > playing the> > role of Putrakaraka and is also the significator of > shisyas/followers> > and all the clients(Moon rules Vikrama pada). Moon is the Kaala > Lord in> > the diagram. This means the vision about these significations > needs to> > be addressed. Since Moon is the Kaala lord remedies are to be done > to> > have a directional change. This has to be followed by offering the > Hora> > of Moon to the Lord by Chanting "OM NAMO NAARAYANAYA".> > > > The 4th Lord from the Karakamsha is Guru(no planet tenants Meena in> > navamsa). MA TARA when invoked would change the gati. Before > embarking> > on this it is to be borne that the Guru is seen cursing in > shastyamsa. > > This Brahamana saapa needs to be removed.> > > > Venus is the Atmakaraka and is placed in Mesha (in Kroora > shastyamsa) in> > 9th in rasi chart. This Venus is being influenced by Sani and Rahu > in> > shastyamsa in chart indicating the reasons of this birth.> > > > To remove the Sadhu saapa it is suggested that> > 1.Chanting "OM NAMO BHAGAVATE SAINAATHAYA" - 108 times in the > morning> > and evening for a period of 40 days.> > 2.Read "SAI SATCHARITA" during this period.> > 3.After the 40th day offer prayers at Shirdi on a Tuesday lighting > a> > lamp using til tel. Offer "Chaamara" ( hand fan) to Shri SAINAATHA.> > Perform Rudraabhisheka to the Paada.> > 4.Offer food packets/feed the poor.> > 5.Pray fervently to remove the curse and request SAINATHA to > forgive for> > past mistakes.> > > > After this offer your Sukra Hora to GANAPATI.> > > > i am not going into other remedial measures as these may be known> > already.> > > > Shri Lalit Mishra ji,> > > > 8th house is called as Nirmala kshetra because it behaves like a > mirror> > reflecting the karmic load of the jivaas. Reflection is fruits of> > darshana which is the 10th house. 11th from the 10th house is the > fruit.> > In this sense 8th is considered as mirror. If given importance the> > mirror is bound to reflect. Once reflected we understand the > urgency to> > shed off the load. In this way it helps remove the mala/impurities > of> > the past. This is a powerful Rudra karma. Accumulation of unwanted> > material is considered unnatural and is considered cancerous. The > Jiva> > has to facilitate the transformation of the unwanted resources > kept in> > possession out of ignorance. This is also Rudra Aaradana. How to > use> > this principle? See the 8th placed planet(if no planet choose the > Lord)> > from the karakaamsha and offer the Hora to the Lord by way of > chanting> > Savitur Gayathri or "OM NAMO NAARAAYANAYA".> > > > As usual i am sorry for the length of the mail. If i had exceeded> > somewhere in explaining certain issues i am sorry for the same.> > > > Best wishes.> > > > May Mother Bless.> > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours,> > p.s.ramanarayanan.> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "Bhaskar"> > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Shri RamNarayananaji,> > >> > > Namaste .> > >> > > You seem to be informed.> > >> > > But Your technical language is a little difficult to> > >> > > uinderstand. If You would be kind enough to> > >> > > explain what you have explained with illustrations> > >> > > of my Chart, i would consider myself fortunate and blessed.> > >> > > My Birth details-> > >> > > 28th June 1961.> > >> > > 10.14am> > >> > > Eluru ( near Vijaywada)> > >> > > 16.45N 81.09E> > >> > > Leo Lagna (Vargottama).> > >> > > Hope you would be kind enough to explain through my example Birth> > Chart.> > >> > > regards,> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "sree88ganesha"> > > sree88ganesha@ wrote:> > > >> > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM> > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH> > > >> > > > Dear Shri Lalit Mishra ji,> > > >> > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive your response which is as usual > full> > of> > > > warmth. i understand that much discussions have been done > during> > these> > > > days.> > > >> > > > i shall move on to Chandra soon.> > > >> > > > As regards 4th the same is called as the kshetra of 'shuddhi', > while> > > 8th> > > > is called the 'nirmala kshetra' and 12th is called > as 'yoganidra> > > > kshetra'.> > > >> > > > The word moksha hints at liberating the 'jiva' from the > clutches of> > > the> > > > graha. The dharmaamsa chart will play a powerful role in this> > regard.> > > > This means locate the atmakaraka graha in the navamsa chart. > See the> > > > 12th from it. This is called as 'jivanmukthaamsa'. The planet > placed> > > > there or the Lord would give you the hint about the 'Ishta > devatha'> > > who> > > > when turned to would do the needful. The "Ishta Devatha" > should be> > > > considered as the 'bhokthri' while the atmakaraka should be> > considered> > > > as the 'bhogya'. The hora of the atmakaraka is to be offered to> > Ishta> > > > devatha on a daily basis by chanting the 'nama' .> > > >> > > > The 4th from Karaakamsa will indicate the 'gati'. The 4th > placed> > > planet> > > > will give you hint about that devatha who would cause these > changes> > in> > > > gathi. This devatha would act as MA and would be doing the job > of> > > > cleansing. Dasa Maha Vidya function begins here.> > > > "Gatistvam.............Bhavani".> > > >> > > > The 8th stands for the 'Rna' that needs to be disposed off. > See the> > > > planet in the 8th from Atmakaraka or see the lord of 8th from> > > karakamsa.> > > > Offer that Hora of that planet to the Lord chanting Savitur > Gayathri> > > or> > > > "OM NAMO NARAYANAYA".> > > >> > > > Brahma Samhita speaks about Goloka which is beyond the sphere > of> > > grahas.> > > > May the Lord bless us all this Supreme Bliss of HIS.> > > >> > > > i shall stop now and continue later.> > > >> > > > Best wishes.> > > >> > > > May Mother Bless.> > > >> > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours,> > > > p.s.ramanarayanan.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol"> > > > mishra.lalit@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sir,> > > > >> > > > > Thanx for posting such a nice enlightenning post to group, > there> > was> > > > > enough food for thoughts, I took time to reply to u as i > wanted to> > > see> > > > > if our members are really trying to update their existing> > knowledge> > > > > base, i m not very appreciative of them.> > > > >> > > > > Now as enough time has been spent and Mahashivaratri is also > over,> > > > that> > > > > day, the way Lord Shiva managed a Rudrabhisheka for me has> > > overwhelmed> > > > > me, I had even not a single Vilva Patra and I was given > everything> > > > > ready, just in couple of seconds, This also gives me enough > self> > > > > confidence that I m right in my approach, several times i m > said> > to> > > > not> > > > > to write openly about spiritual experiences, Sorry I do it, > coz,> > > Good> > > > > has to be known to everyone, to spread everywhere, and ego ? > what> > > ego> > > > is> > > > > there, when we know all is God's maya and all the recepients > are> > > also> > > > > souls like me, as near to God as me is.> > > > >> > > > > Now, I think time has come back to learn about the > exaltations> > from> > > u,> > > > > Pls. be kind to me and to group and tell us from ur treasure.> > > > >> > > > > regards,> > > > > Lalit.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "sree88ganesha"> > > > > > > > > > > > <sree88ganesha@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM> > > > > > > > > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalit Mishra ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive your mail. i > am> > happy> > > > > > to> > > > > > > > note> > > > > > > > > > your> > > > > > > > > > > > > deep interest in the subject. i am just back > from> > my> > > > > > > > > schedule.> > > > > > > > > > i> > > > > > > > > > > > shall> > > > > > > > > > > > > be away for a few more days - Siva Ratri is > round> > > the> > > > > > > > corner.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > i feel that every pravesha has a definite> > > > > > significance.> > > > > > > > This> > > > > > > > > > > does> > > > > > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > > > > mean that i am trying to belittle the thithi> > > pravesha> > > > > > > > theory.> > > > > > > > > > We> > > > > > > > > > > > shall> > > > > > > > > > > > > go into this later.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > i just came across our respected > Chandrasekharji's> > > > > > > > > observation> > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > connection with exaltation and debilitation > of> > > grahas.> > > > > > i> > > > > > > > have> > > > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > > > gone> > > > > > > > > > > > > through others observation. i am sorry for > that.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me take up one by one. You can stop me > when> > > > > > you/the> > > > > > > > group> > > > > > > > > > > feels> > > > > > > > > > > > > this is boring.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours,> > > > > > > > > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol"> > > > > > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir P.S. RamNarain Ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar, Hope u r fine there and doing > well,> > > From> > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > Group> > > > > > > > > > > > side, We> > > > > > > > > > > > > > are expecting u to complete ur interesting> > article> > > > > > on> > > > > > > > rahu> > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > exaltation in which u indicated Kurma > Avtaar's> > > > > > > > > significations> > > > > > > > > > > for> > > > > > > > > > > > > > undestanding the exaltation theories.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. find some time for our sake, I w'd > also> > > request> > > > > > > you> > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > throw> > > > > > > > > > > > some> > > > > > > > > > > > > > light on significations of Tithi Pravesha> > charts,> > > a> > > > > > sr.> > > > > > > > > > member> > > > > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > group has requested for that.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Dear Shri RamaNarayanji, Thank You for replying me. I believe the Chhotakinara is he temple near Ernakulum. I shall surely go there when my destiny allows me to. Yes Mother is Mother. However Paapi the son may be, she would still and yet love her child. I have received so much opposition from my family members for not earning enough wealth as they expect from me, that I have now no recourse left but to continue working for 18 hours of the day and waiting for Lord Krishnas Grace to fall on me, which I know is surely there, as I see His hand in may matters throughout the days I pass through. I am also making my own little efforts to better myself spiritually, only He knows how much good they are. Thanks a lot for all your time given to me. kind regards and salutations, Yours sincerely, Bhaskar. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "sree88ganesha" <sree88ganesha wrote:>> > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM> AUM GURUBYO NAMAH> > Dear Shri Bhaskar ji,> > Namaste. i am moved by this straight-from-the-heart-mail. i am happy to> note that your chanting Mahamantra.> As regards Ma Tara she is indeed the one whom you should turn upon. You> had diksha in your past birth and had worshiped Ma Tara. Her lessons are> already on. Please see the aspects of Sun and Rahu being received by> Guru in your shastyamsa. Guru is found placed in Makar. This Guru is> the sign dispositor of Ketu in this diagram. This Guru is vakri and is> placed in Makar in rasi diagram along with Sani indicating a forgotten> promise/dishonored word of the past. You may go to Chottanikara and> light a lamp there. There is nothing wrong in falling at her feet and> praying to her to forgive your past mistakes. MA is karunya personified.> Please do not doubt. There is nothing to handle here! i did not talk> about any ritual. i did say that you should make attempts to remove the> brahmana saapa before worshiping her so as to find her pleased. For> your information the following vibrations at the temple can be> considered as the best mantra for her worship> "AMME NARAYANA> DEVI NARAYANA> LAKSHMI NARAYANA> BADRE NARAYANA".> > To me Mother is Mother.> > As regards your question as to when would you meet the sadhu i had> suggested certain remedial measures to facilitate and quicken the> happening of the event. Blessings of a Sadhu is a boon that one should> earn for through sincere prayers.> i am happy to note that you are worshiping Krishna. i have no doubts in> the karunya of the Lord to ultimately bless you with what you> desire/aspire. You may continue your prayers to Sri Krishna and leave> the rest to Him.> > Best wishes.> May Mother Bless.> > Astrologically & spiritually yours,> p.s.ramanarayanan.> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "Bhaskar"> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> > Dear Shri RamNarayananji,> >> > Please accept my heartfelt thanks for analysing> > my chart the way you did, which was unique, and> > your time and efforts given to studying the other> > divisional charts. You are the only one person> > who has been able to spiritually> > diaognise my chart uptil now.> >> > Though I am interested in overcoming the spiritual> > astral entities and this plane, with my Sadhana,> > and keeping in touch directly with the astral sphere,> > yet I worship only the Mahamantras and the Lord Ram,> > Krishna and Shiva.Primarily, the form of Vishnu> > (Narayana with Discus ,Lotus, Conch and gada),> > is the form of Narayana I adore and worship.> >> > Ma Tara would be difficult for me to handle,> > and invoke, not yet ready for her> > worship - ritually, at least not presently,> > few years hence, I would not know.> > Then how to go about it when I am not ready ?> >> > Another point - When would I meet this sadhu> > who would change my name ? My name has already been> > changed from Krishna to Bhaskar, in Jyotish> > profession, but this change has been brought> > about by myself, and not through any Sadhu.> >> > Sainatha and Lord Dattatreya I am already> > worshipping,though give major time only to> > Lord Krishna.> >> > Food packets etc. are going regularly from me,> > more than 30-40% of my income per month is spent> > regularly on such activities ,since few years,> > though this may be unrelaistic percentage to you,> > but this is so due to the Lords grace. I always> > believe whatever is mines is given from HIm to> > share with those lower than me,in income brackets.> > Though I face tough opposition from Home,> > for squandering larger share my income in this> > manner, but never allow anyone to rule me, in> > these decesions.> >> > I hope you would answer my queries put up,> > which may be simple for you,> > but lot of meaning for me.> >> > Last Query - Do You see meacquiring kaivalya> > in this Birth itself, if continous> > efforts are made for self development on> > spiritual angels by myself ?> >> > kind regards,> > Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> >> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "sree88ganesha"> > sree88ganesha@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM> > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH> > >> > > Dear Shri Bhaskar ji & Shri Lalit Mishra ji,> > >> > > Namaste. i am happy to receive responses. i shall make an attempt> > to> > > answer.> > >> > > Soorya is also called as Bhaskar. Every graha has a Soorya Roopa of> > > which Ketu's Soorya Roopa is called as Bhaskara. This name> > suggests that> > > we look into the role of Ketu in the chart of Shri Bhaskar. i am> > happy> > > to note the presence of Ketu in 12th to Karakamsa (Venus is the> > > Atmakaraka in the chart). This gives a hint that the bija> > necessary to> > > cause liberation/freedom from the clutches of grahas has already> > been> > > sown. Is the 'vriksha' growing? Is there a problem to the growth> > of this> > > Vriksha? Let us have a closer look at Ketu.> > >> > > Rasi chart: - Ketu is placed in 7th in kumbha with Mantra and> > Maatri> > > paadas, influenced by Mars(rahu's influence goes without saying)> > from> > > Lagna. The powerful influence of Mars(anger and frustration) and> > > Rahu(shock and deception) induces Ketu (who represents a 'Sadhu')> > to> > > curse. This gives a hint about the generation of Sarpa yoga and a> > > development of keen interest in unraveling the mysteries> > surrounding> > > spirits and smashan.> > >> > > Navamsa chart: - Ketu is placed in Vrischika and is subject to the> > > influence of Sani, Rahu & Mars. All the four are placed in kendras> > to> > > Navamsa lagna. This reinforces the intensity of the yogas> > mentioned in> > > rasi chart.> > >> > > Shastiyamsa chart: - Ketu is placed in Meena and is again subject> > to the> > > influence of Mars.> > >> > > From all this we can infer that the native is subject to the curse> > of a> > > Sanyasin/Sadhu. This curse needs to be addressed and removed so as> > to> > > facilitate the blessings of Ishta devatha in the form of Ketu.> > >> > > Once this curse is removed the blessings of Ishta devatha would> > flow.> > > How do we understand the curse is removed? The very same Sadhu> > would> > > bless with a new name!!!> > >> > > The 8th lord from Karakamsha is Moon. He is found placed in 7th to> > > karakamsha indicating the Rna to the soulmate. This Moon is> > playing the> > > role of Putrakaraka and is also the significator of> > shisyas/followers> > > and all the clients(Moon rules Vikrama pada). Moon is the Kaala> > Lord in> > > the diagram. This means the vision about these significations> > needs to> > > be addressed. Since Moon is the Kaala lord remedies are to be done> > to> > > have a directional change. This has to be followed by offering the> > Hora> > > of Moon to the Lord by Chanting "OM NAMO NAARAYANAYA".> > >> > > The 4th Lord from the Karakamsha is Guru(no planet tenants Meena in> > > navamsa). MA TARA when invoked would change the gati. Before> > embarking> > > on this it is to be borne that the Guru is seen cursing in> > shastyamsa.> > > This Brahamana saapa needs to be removed.> > >> > > Venus is the Atmakaraka and is placed in Mesha (in Kroora> > shastyamsa) in> > > 9th in rasi chart. This Venus is being influenced by Sani and Rahu> > in> > > shastyamsa in chart indicating the reasons of this birth.> > >> > > To remove the Sadhu saapa it is suggested that> > > 1.Chanting "OM NAMO BHAGAVATE SAINAATHAYA" - 108 times in the> > morning> > > and evening for a period of 40 days.> > > 2.Read "SAI SATCHARITA" during this period.> > > 3.After the 40th day offer prayers at Shirdi on a Tuesday lighting> > a> > > lamp using til tel. Offer "Chaamara" ( hand fan) to Shri SAINAATHA.> > > Perform Rudraabhisheka to the Paada.> > > 4.Offer food packets/feed the poor.> > > 5.Pray fervently to remove the curse and request SAINATHA to> > forgive for> > > past mistakes.> > >> > > After this offer your Sukra Hora to GANAPATI.> > >> > > i am not going into other remedial measures as these may be known> > > already.> > >> > > Shri Lalit Mishra ji,> > >> > > 8th house is called as Nirmala kshetra because it behaves like a> > mirror> > > reflecting the karmic load of the jivaas. Reflection is fruits of> > > darshana which is the 10th house. 11th from the 10th house is the> > fruit.> > > In this sense 8th is considered as mirror. If given importance the> > > mirror is bound to reflect. Once reflected we understand the> > urgency to> > > shed off the load. In this way it helps remove the mala/impurities> > of> > > the past. This is a powerful Rudra karma. Accumulation of unwanted> > > material is considered unnatural and is considered cancerous. The> > Jiva> > > has to facilitate the transformation of the unwanted resources> > kept in> > > possession out of ignorance. This is also Rudra Aaradana. How to> > use> > > this principle? See the 8th placed planet(if no planet choose the> > Lord)> > > from the karakaamsha and offer the Hora to the Lord by way of> > chanting> > > Savitur Gayathri or "OM NAMO NAARAAYANAYA".> > >> > > As usual i am sorry for the length of the mail. If i had exceeded> > > somewhere in explaining certain issues i am sorry for the same.> > >> > > Best wishes.> > >> > > May Mother Bless.> > >> > > Astrologically & spiritually yours,> > > p.s.ramanarayanan.> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "Bhaskar"> > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Shri RamNarayananaji,> > > >> > > > Namaste .> > > >> > > > You seem to be informed.> > > >> > > > But Your technical language is a little difficult to> > > >> > > > uinderstand. If You would be kind enough to> > > >> > > > explain what you have explained with illustrations> > > >> > > > of my Chart, i would consider myself fortunate and blessed.> > > >> > > > My Birth details-> > > >> > > > 28th June 1961.> > > >> > > > 10.14am> > > >> > > > Eluru ( near Vijaywada)> > > >> > > > 16.45N 81.09E> > > >> > > > Leo Lagna (Vargottama).> > > >> > > > Hope you would be kind enough to explain through my example Birth> > > Chart.> > > >> > > > regards,> > > >> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "sree88ganesha"> > > > sree88ganesha@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM> > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH> > > > >> > > > > Dear Shri Lalit Mishra ji,> > > > >> > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive your response which is as usual> > full> > > of> > > > > warmth. i understand that much discussions have been done> > during> > > these> > > > > days.> > > > >> > > > > i shall move on to Chandra soon.> > > > >> > > > > As regards 4th the same is called as the kshetra of 'shuddhi',> > while> > > > 8th> > > > > is called the 'nirmala kshetra' and 12th is called> > as 'yoganidra> > > > > kshetra'.> > > > >> > > > > The word moksha hints at liberating the 'jiva' from the> > clutches of> > > > the> > > > > graha. The dharmaamsa chart will play a powerful role in this> > > regard.> > > > > This means locate the atmakaraka graha in the navamsa chart.> > See the> > > > > 12th from it. This is called as 'jivanmukthaamsa'. The planet> > placed> > > > > there or the Lord would give you the hint about the 'Ishta> > devatha'> > > > who> > > > > when turned to would do the needful. The "Ishta Devatha"> > should be> > > > > considered as the 'bhokthri' while the atmakaraka should be> > > considered> > > > > as the 'bhogya'. The hora of the atmakaraka is to be offered to> > > Ishta> > > > > devatha on a daily basis by chanting the 'nama' .> > > > >> > > > > The 4th from Karaakamsa will indicate the 'gati'. The 4th> > placed> > > > planet> > > > > will give you hint about that devatha who would cause these> > changes> > > in> > > > > gathi. This devatha would act as MA and would be doing the job> > of> > > > > cleansing. Dasa Maha Vidya function begins here.> > > > > "Gatistvam.............Bhavani".> > > > >> > > > > The 8th stands for the 'Rna' that needs to be disposed off.> > See the> > > > > planet in the 8th from Atmakaraka or see the lord of 8th from> > > > karakamsa.> > > > > Offer that Hora of that planet to the Lord chanting Savitur> > Gayathri> > > > or> > > > > "OM NAMO NARAYANAYA".> > > > >> > > > > Brahma Samhita speaks about Goloka which is beyond the sphere> > of> > > > grahas.> > > > > May the Lord bless us all this Supreme Bliss of HIS.> > > > >> > > > > i shall stop now and continue later.> > > > >> > > > > Best wishes.> > > > >> > > > > May Mother Bless.> > > > >> > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours,> > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol"> > > > > mishra.lalit@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Sir,> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanx for posting such a nice enlightenning post to group,> > there> > > was> > > > > > enough food for thoughts, I took time to reply to u as i> > wanted to> > > > see> > > > > > if our members are really trying to update their existing> > > knowledge> > > > > > base, i m not very appreciative of them.> > > > > >> > > > > > Now as enough time has been spent and Mahashivaratri is also> > over,> > > > > that> > > > > > day, the way Lord Shiva managed a Rudrabhisheka for me has> > > > overwhelmed> > > > > > me, I had even not a single Vilva Patra and I was given> > everything> > > > > > ready, just in couple of seconds, This also gives me enough> > self> > > > > > confidence that I m right in my approach, several times i m> > said> > > to> > > > > not> > > > > > to write openly about spiritual experiences, Sorry I do it,> > coz,> > > > Good> > > > > > has to be known to everyone, to spread everywhere, and ego ?> > what> > > > ego> > > > > is> > > > > > there, when we know all is God's maya and all the recepients> > are> > > > also> > > > > > souls like me, as near to God as me is.> > > > > >> > > > > > Now, I think time has come back to learn about the> > exaltations> > > from> > > > u,> > > > > > Pls. be kind to me and to group and tell us from ur treasure.> > > > > >> > > > > > regards,> > > > > > Lalit.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "sree88ganesha"> > > > > > > > > > > > > <sree88ganesha@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalit Mishra ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive your mail. i> > am> > > happy> > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > note> > > > > > > > > > > your> > > > > > > > > > > > > > deep interest in the subject. i am just back> > from> > > my> > > > > > > > > > schedule.> > > > > > > > > > > i> > > > > > > > > > > > > shall> > > > > > > > > > > > > > be away for a few more days - Siva Ratri is> > round> > > > the> > > > > > > > > corner.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > i feel that every pravesha has a definite> > > > > > > significance.> > > > > > > > > This> > > > > > > > > > > > does> > > > > > > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > > > > > mean that i am trying to belittle the thithi> > > > pravesha> > > > > > > > > theory.> > > > > > > > > > > We> > > > > > > > > > > > > shall> > > > > > > > > > > > > > go into this later.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > i just came across our respected> > Chandrasekharji's> > > > > > > > > > observation> > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > connection with exaltation and debilitation> > of> > > > grahas.> > > > > > > i> > > > > > > > > have> > > > > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > > > > gone> > > > > > > > > > > > > > through others observation. i am sorry for> > that.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me take up one by one. You can stop me> > when> > > > > > > you/the> > > > > > > > > group> > > > > > > > > > > > feels> > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is boring.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir P.S. RamNarain Ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar, Hope u r fine there and doing> > well,> > > > From> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > Group> > > > > > > > > > > > > side, We> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are expecting u to complete ur interesting> > > article> > > > > > > on> > > > > > > > > rahu> > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > exaltation in which u indicated Kurma> > Avtaar's> > > > > > > > > > significations> > > > > > > > > > > > for> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > undestanding the exaltation theories.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. find some time for our sake, I w'd> > also> > > > request> > > > > > > > you> > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > throw> > > > > > > > > > > > > some> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > light on significations of Tithi Pravesha> > > charts,> > > > a> > > > > > > sr.> > > > > > > > > > > member> > > > > > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > group has requested for that.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear Shri Bhaskar ji, Namaste. i am a Govt. servant residing in Chennai. i am deeply interested in this Holy subject. i do not consider Jyotish as an object to obtain/acquire but i feel it is the subject which grows on the transformation of the Subject/jiva. As regards my knowledge and experience i would say that i am a student attempting to find an entry into the ashrama of the Sage. As regards Ma Tara i had already mentioned in the previous mail. As regards Shirdi Sai i had made the suggestion taking your Sadhu saapa into consideration. You are at liberty to ignore my suggestions. Best wishes. May Mother Bless. Astrologically & spiritually yours, p.s.ramanarayanan. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Shri RamaNarayananji, > > I am curious and wish to know more > about you. > Your age, and experience in astrology > and other professional areas, if you wish > to share. > I am curious because of 2 aspects. > > 1) Normally invoking Ma Tara is not > prescribed wantonly. Though i find > a SJC disciple doing this often, for which > I have in an freindly way, obstructed to > his such sugeestions to all and sundry > natives coming to him with queries. > This invocation is done mostly by the > left handed panth, Aghoris. Normal > householders would dare not do it. > Because she is Smashan Tara and one > of the MahaVidyas, who cannot be > approached by normal persons of lust, > Kama,Krodha and Lobha, which at least I > possess in few measures, if not in much. > These are dangerous ways to tread upon, > and one may have to part with his Life, > with a single wrong mistake or even a > wrong thought entering his mind during > the invocations. Though I am very much > aligned to the astral sphere, > but I would dare not do this > approaching before I cleanse myself. > > 2) Sainath if You mean SaiBaba, > is not a God, but a messenger of > God, and a human. I do worship of him > daily, but if a detailed Pooja has to > be done, I would prefer to do of his > Lord Dattatreyaji. > Would not be Shri Hanumanji more > pleased if I do recitation of > Shri Ram Jaya Rama Jay Jaya Ram, > and is He not present wherever a > auspicious recital of > Ramayana is done ? In same way > instead of doiing too much > worship of any human being who > has perished, though > he may be a saint, is secondarily > preferable to me, primarily I would > prefer to live Life as per His teachings, > rather than pray to His photo.I > would prefer praying to the Avatars or > the MahaVishnu Himself. > > As regards Jyotisha, my Order of > devotion and belief is thus, > > 1) Belief in ones own Karma,his actions. > 2) Belief in God. > 3) Belief in Jyotisha. > > So i give preference to Jyotisha on the > last level of this 3 Tier. > > As regards to remedial measures, I have a faith > that if a person is good, behaves good'with all, > performs his duties well,lives life as per the > injunctions laid by God, the God would Himself > help the native to overcome his purva paap, > by bringing remedies in His Life, > from time to time, so that His Bhakta is > absolved of thepast sins, and made > to reach nearer to Himself, ie. towards Godhead. > > But the above by no means, should suggest, > that I do not believe in doing Remedial > 'measures, Japa, Mantras, worship etcetra. > > This would depend from a person to person, > on availibility of time, the inclinations > and the family atmosphere he is living in, > which must also be favourable to make him > do the above. The outward influences > and sorroundings do play a major role > in ones spiritual upliftment, and not just > depend on a individual alone. > > best regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Dear Shri RamNarayananji, > > > > Please accept my heartfelt thanks for analysing > > my chart the way you did, which was unique, and > > your time and efforts given to studying the other > > divisional charts. You are the only one person > > who has been able to spiritually > > diaognise my chart uptil now. > > > > Though I am interested in overcoming the spiritual > > astral entities and this plane, with my Sadhana, > > and keeping in touch directly with the astral sphere, > > yet I worship only the Mahamantras and the Lord Ram, > > Krishna and Shiva.Primarily, the form of Vishnu > > (Narayana with Discus ,Lotus, Conch and gada), > > is the form of Narayana I adore and worship. > > > > Ma Tara would be difficult for me to handle, > > and invoke, not yet ready for her > > worship - ritually, at least not presently, > > few years hence, I would not know. > > Then how to go about it when I am not ready ? > > > > Another point - When would I meet this sadhu > > who would change my name ? My name has already been > > changed from Krishna to Bhaskar, in Jyotish > > profession, but this change has been brought > > about by myself, and not through any Sadhu. > > > > Sainatha and Lord Dattatreya I am already > > worshipping,though give major time only to > > Lord Krishna. > > > > Food packets etc. are going regularly from me, > > more than 30-40% of my income per month is spent > > regularly on such activities ,since few years, > > though this may be unrelaistic percentage to you, > > but this is so due to the Lords grace. I always > > believe whatever is mines is given from HIm to > > share with those lower than me,in income brackets. > > Though I face tough opposition from Home, > > for squandering larger share my income in this > > manner, but never allow anyone to rule me, in > > these decesions. > > > > I hope you would answer my queries put up, > > which may be simple for you, > > but lot of meaning for me. > > > > Last Query - Do You see meacquiring kaivalya > > in this Birth itself, if continous > > efforts are made for self development on > > spiritual angels by myself ? > > > > kind regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > <sree88ganesha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > Dear Shri Bhaskar ji & Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive responses. i shall make an > attempt > > to > > > answer. > > > > > > Soorya is also called as Bhaskar. Every graha has a Soorya Roopa > of > > > which Ketu's Soorya Roopa is called as Bhaskara. This name > > suggests that > > > we look into the role of Ketu in the chart of Shri Bhaskar. i am > > happy > > > to note the presence of Ketu in 12th to Karakamsa (Venus is the > > > Atmakaraka in the chart). This gives a hint that the bija > > necessary to > > > cause liberation/freedom from the clutches of grahas has already > > been > > > sown. Is the 'vriksha' growing? Is there a problem to the growth > > of this > > > Vriksha? Let us have a closer look at Ketu. > > > > > > Rasi chart: - Ketu is placed in 7th in kumbha with Mantra and > > Maatri > > > paadas, influenced by Mars(rahu's influence goes without saying) > > from > > > Lagna. The powerful influence of Mars(anger and frustration) and > > > Rahu(shock and deception) induces Ketu (who represents > a 'Sadhu') > > to > > > curse. This gives a hint about the generation of Sarpa yoga and > a > > > development of keen interest in unraveling the mysteries > > surrounding > > > spirits and smashan. > > > > > > Navamsa chart: - Ketu is placed in Vrischika and is subject to > the > > > influence of Sani, Rahu & Mars. All the four are placed in > kendras > > to > > > Navamsa lagna. This reinforces the intensity of the yogas > > mentioned in > > > rasi chart. > > > > > > Shastiyamsa chart: - Ketu is placed in Meena and is again > subject > > to the > > > influence of Mars. > > > > > > From all this we can infer that the native is subject to the > curse > > of a > > > Sanyasin/Sadhu. This curse needs to be addressed and removed so > as > > to > > > facilitate the blessings of Ishta devatha in the form of Ketu. > > > > > > Once this curse is removed the blessings of Ishta devatha would > > flow. > > > How do we understand the curse is removed? The very same Sadhu > > would > > > bless with a new name!!! > > > > > > The 8th lord from Karakamsha is Moon. He is found placed in 7th > to > > > karakamsha indicating the Rna to the soulmate. This Moon is > > playing the > > > role of Putrakaraka and is also the significator of > > shisyas/followers > > > and all the clients(Moon rules Vikrama pada). Moon is the Kaala > > Lord in > > > the diagram. This means the vision about these significations > > needs to > > > be addressed. Since Moon is the Kaala lord remedies are to be > done > > to > > > have a directional change. This has to be followed by offering > the > > Hora > > > of Moon to the Lord by Chanting " OM NAMO NAARAYANAYA " . > > > > > > The 4th Lord from the Karakamsha is Guru(no planet tenants Meena > in > > > navamsa). MA TARA when invoked would change the gati. Before > > embarking > > > on this it is to be borne that the Guru is seen cursing in > > shastyamsa. > > > This Brahamana saapa needs to be removed. > > > > > > Venus is the Atmakaraka and is placed in Mesha (in Kroora > > shastyamsa) in > > > 9th in rasi chart. This Venus is being influenced by Sani and > Rahu > > in > > > shastyamsa in chart indicating the reasons of this birth. > > > > > > To remove the Sadhu saapa it is suggested that > > > 1.Chanting " OM NAMO BHAGAVATE SAINAATHAYA " - 108 times in the > > morning > > > and evening for a period of 40 days. > > > 2.Read " SAI SATCHARITA " during this period. > > > 3.After the 40th day offer prayers at Shirdi on a Tuesday > lighting > > a > > > lamp using til tel. Offer " Chaamara " ( hand fan) to Shri > SAINAATHA. > > > Perform Rudraabhisheka to the Paada. > > > 4.Offer food packets/feed the poor. > > > 5.Pray fervently to remove the curse and request SAINATHA to > > forgive for > > > past mistakes. > > > > > > After this offer your Sukra Hora to GANAPATI. > > > > > > i am not going into other remedial measures as these may be known > > > already. > > > > > > Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > 8th house is called as Nirmala kshetra because it behaves like a > > mirror > > > reflecting the karmic load of the jivaas. Reflection is fruits of > > > darshana which is the 10th house. 11th from the 10th house is > the > > fruit. > > > In this sense 8th is considered as mirror. If given importance > the > > > mirror is bound to reflect. Once reflected we understand the > > urgency to > > > shed off the load. In this way it helps remove the > mala/impurities > > of > > > the past. This is a powerful Rudra karma. Accumulation of > unwanted > > > material is considered unnatural and is considered cancerous. > The > > Jiva > > > has to facilitate the transformation of the unwanted resources > > kept in > > > possession out of ignorance. This is also Rudra Aaradana. How to > > use > > > this principle? See the 8th placed planet(if no planet choose > the > > Lord) > > > from the karakaamsha and offer the Hora to the Lord by way of > > chanting > > > Savitur Gayathri or " OM NAMO NAARAAYANAYA " . > > > > > > As usual i am sorry for the length of the mail. If i had exceeded > > > somewhere in explaining certain issues i am sorry for the same. > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri RamNarayananaji, > > > > > > > > Namaste . > > > > > > > > You seem to be informed. > > > > > > > > But Your technical language is a little difficult to > > > > > > > > uinderstand. If You would be kind enough to > > > > > > > > explain what you have explained with illustrations > > > > > > > > of my Chart, i would consider myself fortunate and blessed. > > > > > > > > My Birth details- > > > > > > > > 28th June 1961. > > > > > > > > 10.14am > > > > > > > > Eluru ( near Vijaywada) > > > > > > > > 16.45N 81.09E > > > > > > > > Leo Lagna (Vargottama). > > > > > > > > Hope you would be kind enough to explain through my example > Birth > > > Chart. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > > > sree88ganesha@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive your response which is as > usual > > full > > > of > > > > > warmth. i understand that much discussions have been done > > during > > > these > > > > > days. > > > > > > > > > > i shall move on to Chandra soon. > > > > > > > > > > As regards 4th the same is called as the kshetra > of 'shuddhi', > > while > > > > 8th > > > > > is called the 'nirmala kshetra' and 12th is called > > as 'yoganidra > > > > > kshetra'. > > > > > > > > > > The word moksha hints at liberating the 'jiva' from the > > clutches of > > > > the > > > > > graha. The dharmaamsa chart will play a powerful role in this > > > regard. > > > > > This means locate the atmakaraka graha in the navamsa chart. > > See the > > > > > 12th from it. This is called as 'jivanmukthaamsa'. The > planet > > placed > > > > > there or the Lord would give you the hint about the 'Ishta > > devatha' > > > > who > > > > > when turned to would do the needful. The " Ishta Devatha " > > should be > > > > > considered as the 'bhokthri' while the atmakaraka should be > > > considered > > > > > as the 'bhogya'. The hora of the atmakaraka is to be offered > to > > > Ishta > > > > > devatha on a daily basis by chanting the 'nama' . > > > > > > > > > > The 4th from Karaakamsa will indicate the 'gati'. The 4th > > placed > > > > planet > > > > > will give you hint about that devatha who would cause these > > changes > > > in > > > > > gathi. This devatha would act as MA and would be doing the > job > > of > > > > > cleansing. Dasa Maha Vidya function begins here. > > > > > " Gatistvam.............Bhavani " . > > > > > > > > > > The 8th stands for the 'Rna' that needs to be disposed off. > > See the > > > > > planet in the 8th from Atmakaraka or see the lord of 8th from > > > > karakamsa. > > > > > Offer that Hora of that planet to the Lord chanting Savitur > > Gayathri > > > > or > > > > > " OM NAMO NARAYANAYA " . > > > > > > > > > > Brahma Samhita speaks about Goloka which is beyond the > sphere > > of > > > > grahas. > > > > > May the Lord bless us all this Supreme Bliss of HIS. > > > > > > > > > > i shall stop now and continue later. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > mishra.lalit@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx for posting such a nice enlightenning post to group, > > there > > > was > > > > > > enough food for thoughts, I took time to reply to u as i > > wanted to > > > > see > > > > > > if our members are really trying to update their existing > > > knowledge > > > > > > base, i m not very appreciative of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now as enough time has been spent and Mahashivaratri is > also > > over, > > > > > that > > > > > > day, the way Lord Shiva managed a Rudrabhisheka for me has > > > > overwhelmed > > > > > > me, I had even not a single Vilva Patra and I was given > > everything > > > > > > ready, just in couple of seconds, This also gives me > enough > > self > > > > > > confidence that I m right in my approach, several times i > m > > said > > > to > > > > > not > > > > > > to write openly about spiritual experiences, Sorry I do > it, > > coz, > > > > Good > > > > > > has to be known to everyone, to spread everywhere, and > ego ? > > what > > > > ego > > > > > is > > > > > > there, when we know all is God's maya and all the > recepients > > are > > > > also > > > > > > souls like me, as near to God as me is. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, I think time has come back to learn about the > > exaltations > > > from > > > > u, > > > > > > Pls. be kind to me and to group and tell us from ur > treasure. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <sree88ganesha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive your mail. > i > > am > > > happy > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > note > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > deep interest in the subject. i am just > back > > from > > > my > > > > > > > > > > schedule. > > > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > > > shall > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be away for a few more days - Siva Ratri > is > > round > > > > the > > > > > > > > > corner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i feel that every pravesha has a definite > > > > > > > significance. > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mean that i am trying to belittle the > thithi > > > > pravesha > > > > > > > > > theory. > > > > > > > > > > > We > > > > > > > > > > > > > shall > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go into this later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i just came across our respected > > Chandrasekharji's > > > > > > > > > > observation > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > connection with exaltation and > debilitation > > of > > > > grahas. > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > gone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through others observation. i am sorry for > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me take up one by one. You can stop me > > when > > > > > > > you/the > > > > > > > > > group > > > > > > > > > > > > feels > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is boring. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir P.S. RamNarain Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar, Hope u r fine there and doing > > well, > > > > From > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Group > > > > > > > > > > > > > side, We > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are expecting u to complete ur > interesting > > > article > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > rahu > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > exaltation in which u indicated Kurma > > Avtaar's > > > > > > > > > > significations > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > undestanding the exaltation theories. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. find some time for our sake, I w'd > > also > > > > request > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > throw > > > > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > light on significations of Tithi Pravesha > > > charts, > > > > a > > > > > > > sr. > > > > > > > > > > > member > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > group has requested for that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Dear Shri RamaNarayanji, Lest you mistake me for what I said, let me inform you that, I love Sai Baba of Shirdi very much, and have seen his miracles in every lane of Bombay, no doubt about that. I have already visited Shirdi once, and am always ever interested in visiting again whenever the opportunity arrives. I am not at liberty to ignore any suggestion made for my good and welfare. On the contrary I am tied up, and get tied up when such suggestions come up from a good spiritual well wisher, till the time I am not able to complete that remedy suggested. kind regards, Bhaskar. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " <sree88ganesha wrote: > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > Dear Shri Bhaskar ji, > > Namaste. i am a Govt. servant residing in Chennai. i am deeply > interested in this Holy subject. i do not consider Jyotish as an > object to obtain/acquire but i feel it is the subject which grows on > the transformation of the Subject/jiva. As regards my knowledge and > experience i would say that i am a student attempting to find an entry > into the ashrama of the Sage. As regards Ma Tara i had already > mentioned in the previous mail. As regards Shirdi Sai i had made the > suggestion taking your Sadhu saapa into consideration. You are at > liberty to ignore my suggestions. > > Best wishes. > > May Mother Bless. > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > p.s.ramanarayanan. > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Shri RamaNarayananji, > > > > I am curious and wish to know more > > about you. > > Your age, and experience in astrology > > and other professional areas, if you wish > > to share. > > I am curious because of 2 aspects. > > > > 1) Normally invoking Ma Tara is not > > prescribed wantonly. Though i find > > a SJC disciple doing this often, for which > > I have in an freindly way, obstructed to > > his such sugeestions to all and sundry > > natives coming to him with queries. > > This invocation is done mostly by the > > left handed panth, Aghoris. Normal > > householders would dare not do it. > > Because she is Smashan Tara and one > > of the MahaVidyas, who cannot be > > approached by normal persons of lust, > > Kama,Krodha and Lobha, which at least I > > possess in few measures, if not in much. > > These are dangerous ways to tread upon, > > and one may have to part with his Life, > > with a single wrong mistake or even a > > wrong thought entering his mind during > > the invocations. Though I am very much > > aligned to the astral sphere, > > but I would dare not do this > > approaching before I cleanse myself. > > > > 2) Sainath if You mean SaiBaba, > > is not a God, but a messenger of > > God, and a human. I do worship of him > > daily, but if a detailed Pooja has to > > be done, I would prefer to do of his > > Lord Dattatreyaji. > > Would not be Shri Hanumanji more > > pleased if I do recitation of > > Shri Ram Jaya Rama Jay Jaya Ram, > > and is He not present wherever a > > auspicious recital of > > Ramayana is done ? In same way > > instead of doiing too much > > worship of any human being who > > has perished, though > > he may be a saint, is secondarily > > preferable to me, primarily I would > > prefer to live Life as per His teachings, > > rather than pray to His photo.I > > would prefer praying to the Avatars or > > the MahaVishnu Himself. > > > > As regards Jyotisha, my Order of > > devotion and belief is thus, > > > > 1) Belief in ones own Karma,his actions. > > 2) Belief in God. > > 3) Belief in Jyotisha. > > > > So i give preference to Jyotisha on the > > last level of this 3 Tier. > > > > As regards to remedial measures, I have a faith > > that if a person is good, behaves good'with all, > > performs his duties well,lives life as per the > > injunctions laid by God, the God would Himself > > help the native to overcome his purva paap, > > by bringing remedies in His Life, > > from time to time, so that His Bhakta is > > absolved of thepast sins, and made > > to reach nearer to Himself, ie. towards Godhead. > > > > But the above by no means, should suggest, > > that I do not believe in doing Remedial > > 'measures, Japa, Mantras, worship etcetra. > > > > This would depend from a person to person, > > on availibility of time, the inclinations > > and the family atmosphere he is living in, > > which must also be favourable to make him > > do the above. The outward influences > > and sorroundings do play a major role > > in ones spiritual upliftment, and not just > > depend on a individual alone. > > > > best regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Shri RamNarayananji, > > > > > > Please accept my heartfelt thanks for analysing > > > my chart the way you did, which was unique, and > > > your time and efforts given to studying the other > > > divisional charts. You are the only one person > > > who has been able to spiritually > > > diaognise my chart uptil now. > > > > > > Though I am interested in overcoming the spiritual > > > astral entities and this plane, with my Sadhana, > > > and keeping in touch directly with the astral sphere, > > > yet I worship only the Mahamantras and the Lord Ram, > > > Krishna and Shiva.Primarily, the form of Vishnu > > > (Narayana with Discus ,Lotus, Conch and gada), > > > is the form of Narayana I adore and worship. > > > > > > Ma Tara would be difficult for me to handle, > > > and invoke, not yet ready for her > > > worship - ritually, at least not presently, > > > few years hence, I would not know. > > > Then how to go about it when I am not ready ? > > > > > > Another point - When would I meet this sadhu > > > who would change my name ? My name has already been > > > changed from Krishna to Bhaskar, in Jyotish > > > profession, but this change has been brought > > > about by myself, and not through any Sadhu. > > > > > > Sainatha and Lord Dattatreya I am already > > > worshipping,though give major time only to > > > Lord Krishna. > > > > > > Food packets etc. are going regularly from me, > > > more than 30-40% of my income per month is spent > > > regularly on such activities ,since few years, > > > though this may be unrelaistic percentage to you, > > > but this is so due to the Lords grace. I always > > > believe whatever is mines is given from HIm to > > > share with those lower than me,in income brackets. > > > Though I face tough opposition from Home, > > > for squandering larger share my income in this > > > manner, but never allow anyone to rule me, in > > > these decesions. > > > > > > I hope you would answer my queries put up, > > > which may be simple for you, > > > but lot of meaning for me. > > > > > > Last Query - Do You see meacquiring kaivalya > > > in this Birth itself, if continous > > > efforts are made for self development on > > > spiritual angels by myself ? > > > > > > kind regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > > <sree88ganesha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Bhaskar ji & Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive responses. i shall make an > > attempt > > > to > > > > answer. > > > > > > > > Soorya is also called as Bhaskar. Every graha has a Soorya Roopa > > of > > > > which Ketu's Soorya Roopa is called as Bhaskara. This name > > > suggests that > > > > we look into the role of Ketu in the chart of Shri Bhaskar. i am > > > happy > > > > to note the presence of Ketu in 12th to Karakamsa (Venus is the > > > > Atmakaraka in the chart). This gives a hint that the bija > > > necessary to > > > > cause liberation/freedom from the clutches of grahas has already > > > been > > > > sown. Is the 'vriksha' growing? Is there a problem to the growth > > > of this > > > > Vriksha? Let us have a closer look at Ketu. > > > > > > > > Rasi chart: - Ketu is placed in 7th in kumbha with Mantra and > > > Maatri > > > > paadas, influenced by Mars(rahu's influence goes without saying) > > > from > > > > Lagna. The powerful influence of Mars(anger and frustration) and > > > > Rahu(shock and deception) induces Ketu (who represents > > a 'Sadhu') > > > to > > > > curse. This gives a hint about the generation of Sarpa yoga and > > a > > > > development of keen interest in unraveling the mysteries > > > surrounding > > > > spirits and smashan. > > > > > > > > Navamsa chart: - Ketu is placed in Vrischika and is subject to > > the > > > > influence of Sani, Rahu & Mars. All the four are placed in > > kendras > > > to > > > > Navamsa lagna. This reinforces the intensity of the yogas > > > mentioned in > > > > rasi chart. > > > > > > > > Shastiyamsa chart: - Ketu is placed in Meena and is again > > subject > > > to the > > > > influence of Mars. > > > > > > > > From all this we can infer that the native is subject to the > > curse > > > of a > > > > Sanyasin/Sadhu. This curse needs to be addressed and removed so > > as > > > to > > > > facilitate the blessings of Ishta devatha in the form of Ketu. > > > > > > > > Once this curse is removed the blessings of Ishta devatha would > > > flow. > > > > How do we understand the curse is removed? The very same Sadhu > > > would > > > > bless with a new name!!! > > > > > > > > The 8th lord from Karakamsha is Moon. He is found placed in 7th > > to > > > > karakamsha indicating the Rna to the soulmate. This Moon is > > > playing the > > > > role of Putrakaraka and is also the significator of > > > shisyas/followers > > > > and all the clients(Moon rules Vikrama pada). Moon is the Kaala > > > Lord in > > > > the diagram. This means the vision about these significations > > > needs to > > > > be addressed. Since Moon is the Kaala lord remedies are to be > > done > > > to > > > > have a directional change. This has to be followed by offering > > the > > > Hora > > > > of Moon to the Lord by Chanting " OM NAMO NAARAYANAYA " . > > > > > > > > The 4th Lord from the Karakamsha is Guru(no planet tenants Meena > > in > > > > navamsa). MA TARA when invoked would change the gati. Before > > > embarking > > > > on this it is to be borne that the Guru is seen cursing in > > > shastyamsa. > > > > This Brahamana saapa needs to be removed. > > > > > > > > Venus is the Atmakaraka and is placed in Mesha (in Kroora > > > shastyamsa) in > > > > 9th in rasi chart. This Venus is being influenced by Sani and > > Rahu > > > in > > > > shastyamsa in chart indicating the reasons of this birth. > > > > > > > > To remove the Sadhu saapa it is suggested that > > > > 1.Chanting " OM NAMO BHAGAVATE SAINAATHAYA " - 108 times in the > > > morning > > > > and evening for a period of 40 days. > > > > 2.Read " SAI SATCHARITA " during this period. > > > > 3.After the 40th day offer prayers at Shirdi on a Tuesday > > lighting > > > a > > > > lamp using til tel. Offer " Chaamara " ( hand fan) to Shri > > SAINAATHA. > > > > Perform Rudraabhisheka to the Paada. > > > > 4.Offer food packets/feed the poor. > > > > 5.Pray fervently to remove the curse and request SAINATHA to > > > forgive for > > > > past mistakes. > > > > > > > > After this offer your Sukra Hora to GANAPATI. > > > > > > > > i am not going into other remedial measures as these may be known > > > > already. > > > > > > > > Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > 8th house is called as Nirmala kshetra because it behaves like a > > > mirror > > > > reflecting the karmic load of the jivaas. Reflection is fruits of > > > > darshana which is the 10th house. 11th from the 10th house is > > the > > > fruit. > > > > In this sense 8th is considered as mirror. If given importance > > the > > > > mirror is bound to reflect. Once reflected we understand the > > > urgency to > > > > shed off the load. In this way it helps remove the > > mala/impurities > > > of > > > > the past. This is a powerful Rudra karma. Accumulation of > > unwanted > > > > material is considered unnatural and is considered cancerous. > > The > > > Jiva > > > > has to facilitate the transformation of the unwanted resources > > > kept in > > > > possession out of ignorance. This is also Rudra Aaradana. How to > > > use > > > > this principle? See the 8th placed planet(if no planet choose > > the > > > Lord) > > > > from the karakaamsha and offer the Hora to the Lord by way of > > > chanting > > > > Savitur Gayathri or " OM NAMO NAARAAYANAYA " . > > > > > > > > As usual i am sorry for the length of the mail. If i had exceeded > > > > somewhere in explaining certain issues i am sorry for the same. > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri RamNarayananaji, > > > > > > > > > > Namaste . > > > > > > > > > > You seem to be informed. > > > > > > > > > > But Your technical language is a little difficult to > > > > > > > > > > uinderstand. If You would be kind enough to > > > > > > > > > > explain what you have explained with illustrations > > > > > > > > > > of my Chart, i would consider myself fortunate and blessed. > > > > > > > > > > My Birth details- > > > > > > > > > > 28th June 1961. > > > > > > > > > > 10.14am > > > > > > > > > > Eluru ( near Vijaywada) > > > > > > > > > > 16.45N 81.09E > > > > > > > > > > Leo Lagna (Vargottama). > > > > > > > > > > Hope you would be kind enough to explain through my example > > Birth > > > > Chart. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > > > > sree88ganesha@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive your response which is as > > usual > > > full > > > > of > > > > > > warmth. i understand that much discussions have been done > > > during > > > > these > > > > > > days. > > > > > > > > > > > > i shall move on to Chandra soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > As regards 4th the same is called as the kshetra > > of 'shuddhi', > > > while > > > > > 8th > > > > > > is called the 'nirmala kshetra' and 12th is called > > > as 'yoganidra > > > > > > kshetra'. > > > > > > > > > > > > The word moksha hints at liberating the 'jiva' from the > > > clutches of > > > > > the > > > > > > graha. The dharmaamsa chart will play a powerful role in this > > > > regard. > > > > > > This means locate the atmakaraka graha in the navamsa chart. > > > See the > > > > > > 12th from it. This is called as 'jivanmukthaamsa'. The > > planet > > > placed > > > > > > there or the Lord would give you the hint about the 'Ishta > > > devatha' > > > > > who > > > > > > when turned to would do the needful. The " Ishta Devatha " > > > should be > > > > > > considered as the 'bhokthri' while the atmakaraka should be > > > > considered > > > > > > as the 'bhogya'. The hora of the atmakaraka is to be offered > > to > > > > Ishta > > > > > > devatha on a daily basis by chanting the 'nama' . > > > > > > > > > > > > The 4th from Karaakamsa will indicate the 'gati'. The 4th > > > placed > > > > > planet > > > > > > will give you hint about that devatha who would cause these > > > changes > > > > in > > > > > > gathi. This devatha would act as MA and would be doing the > > job > > > of > > > > > > cleansing. Dasa Maha Vidya function begins here. > > > > > > " Gatistvam.............Bhavani " . > > > > > > > > > > > > The 8th stands for the 'Rna' that needs to be disposed off. > > > See the > > > > > > planet in the 8th from Atmakaraka or see the lord of 8th from > > > > > karakamsa. > > > > > > Offer that Hora of that planet to the Lord chanting Savitur > > > Gayathri > > > > > or > > > > > > " OM NAMO NARAYANAYA " . > > > > > > > > > > > > Brahma Samhita speaks about Goloka which is beyond the > > sphere > > > of > > > > > grahas. > > > > > > May the Lord bless us all this Supreme Bliss of HIS. > > > > > > > > > > > > i shall stop now and continue later. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > > mishra.lalit@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx for posting such a nice enlightenning post to group, > > > there > > > > was > > > > > > > enough food for thoughts, I took time to reply to u as i > > > wanted to > > > > > see > > > > > > > if our members are really trying to update their existing > > > > knowledge > > > > > > > base, i m not very appreciative of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now as enough time has been spent and Mahashivaratri is > > also > > > over, > > > > > > that > > > > > > > day, the way Lord Shiva managed a Rudrabhisheka for me has > > > > > overwhelmed > > > > > > > me, I had even not a single Vilva Patra and I was given > > > everything > > > > > > > ready, just in couple of seconds, This also gives me > > enough > > > self > > > > > > > confidence that I m right in my approach, several times i > > m > > > said > > > > to > > > > > > not > > > > > > > to write openly about spiritual experiences, Sorry I do > > it, > > > coz, > > > > > Good > > > > > > > has to be known to everyone, to spread everywhere, and > > ego ? > > > what > > > > > ego > > > > > > is > > > > > > > there, when we know all is God's maya and all the > > recepients > > > are > > > > > also > > > > > > > souls like me, as near to God as me is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, I think time has come back to learn about the > > > exaltations > > > > from > > > > > u, > > > > > > > Pls. be kind to me and to group and tell us from ur > > treasure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <sree88ganesha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive your mail. > > i > > > am > > > > happy > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > note > > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > deep interest in the subject. i am just > > back > > > from > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > schedule. > > > > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shall > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be away for a few more days - Siva Ratri > > is > > > round > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > corner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i feel that every pravesha has a definite > > > > > > > > significance. > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mean that i am trying to belittle the > > thithi > > > > > pravesha > > > > > > > > > > theory. > > > > > > > > > > > > We > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shall > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go into this later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i just came across our respected > > > Chandrasekharji's > > > > > > > > > > > observation > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > connection with exaltation and > > debilitation > > > of > > > > > grahas. > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through others observation. i am sorry for > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me take up one by one. You can stop me > > > when > > > > > > > > you/the > > > > > > > > > > group > > > > > > > > > > > > > feels > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is boring. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir P.S. RamNarain Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar, Hope u r fine there and doing > > > well, > > > > > From > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > Group > > > > > > > > > > > > > > side, We > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are expecting u to complete ur > > interesting > > > > article > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > exaltation in which u indicated Kurma > > > Avtaar's > > > > > > > > > > > significations > > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > undestanding the exaltation theories. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. find some time for our sake, I w'd > > > also > > > > > request > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > throw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > light on significations of Tithi Pravesha > > > > charts, > > > > > a > > > > > > > > sr. > > > > > > > > > > > > member > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > group has requested for that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 That coz u are unable to watch a movie show coz u dont have Rs.150/- in ur account, should u cry there is no theater or no movie is being shown. What a great coardice thoughts u r having dear lion, why u w'd take 5 yrs, do it tomorrow, why u dont have confidence, do u think God or Me is ur enemy ? Do we ask any money from u ??? See, how badly u r trapped within ur thoughts... Go and sit tomorrow, have courage , you will get it. Ok.. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Bhai Lalitji, > > Pranam aapko. > Namaskaar aapko. > > Mere paas toh, > na itni Bhakti hai, > na itni Shakti hai, > aur na Panditya hai. > > Main jis din naad sun loonga > aapka description confirm kar doonga. > parantu lagta nahin ki mujhe 5-7 > saal se kam lagenge meri aaj ki sthiti > dekhte hue. Baaki Bhagwaan ki kripa kab > baras jaaye so toh Prabhu hi jaane. > > Aapko Pranaam isliye kiya, kyonki aap Brahmin > hai. Mujhe aapki umar se koi farak > nahin padta. Aaapki buddhi ki thah kahan tak hai > use mujhe koi sarokaar nahin, balki jmere > liye to chota bachha agar Brahman (Mishra) ho > toh bhi poojniyah hai. > > Aur aap toh prakhand pandit lagte ho mujhe. > > kind regards, > Bhaskar. > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > Bhaskar Ji, > > > > Namaskaar, After we hear the Anahata's Naad, We reach in the > > innermost circle but a sense of duality remains, We are hearing a > > voice, that does mean, source of the voice is different than us. > > > > Next Step is to realize this Anahat's naad is my own naada, I m > the > > Shiva, Shivoaham ... Vibhum Vyapakam !! > > > > We need mother's pull to get to this plane, " Ishwar PraniDhaan " . > > > > It's when u feel the culmination of love, This is most well known > > spiritual personalities miss, Now, they bend over dumping the > world > > with hundreds of the books . > > > > It has been quite easy for me, even i didnt try, Mother herself > > caused it to happen. She does it this way for everybody, who is > not > > into Panditya rather have bhakti. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear lalitji, > > > > > > A small correction, if You allow me. > > > > > > A person who can develop himself spiritually > > > to a level where he can hear the anahata naad, > > > or the sound of omnipresent omniscient, > > > omnipotent Om, for this person, the step > > > towards self realization gets over. > > > He needs nothing to know more, for > > > through this naad his 3rd eye ,the > > > Agya chakra is fully awakened and he has > > > the answers to all he is seeking, > > > has seeked, or would be seeking. > > > > > > This is not easy to achieve, > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > Namaskaar, When for sometime (depends case to case) we > > > remain 'Normal > > > > Naitika' our " JyotishMati " awakens, We need not make any > > > definition, > > > > rather we need to understand the definition inherent to the > > > universe, > > > > > > > > We need to hear the Anahat's naad, this naad is refreshing > like > > > > taking a good bath, then the steps towards self realization > > begins. > > > > > > > > It's all practical and a must to achieve, quite achievable, > there > > > is > > > > no doubt at all. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Lalitji, > > > > > > > > > > We Indians, most of us, > > > > > are certainly 'Kritigya' and > > > > > display our kritagyta which is nothing > > > > > extraordinary but 'Normal 'Naitikta' > > > > > (Duty, Ethics and norms). This > > > > > krigayta is the reason for me not going to > > > > > meet Mother in a defiled manner. > > > > > Here defiled means not being at par of > > > > > my own paribhasha (definition)of being a > > > > > proper yaachaka or a good son. > > > > > I have my own scales of judgement for > > > > > a good astrologer, a good sadhaka, a good > > > > > man, a good friend etc.and here I fall > > > > > short from own made levels which may be > > > > > around 200 years old. therefore meet > > > > > I must, but not yet ready. > > > > > > > > > > I am grateful to all the Gods and Goddesses, > > > > > and Lord Shri Krishna is fully looking after > > > > > me and giving me more than what I am worth. > > > > > I do not see the Lord and Ma as different. > > > > > They are just 2 Forms of the Whole or One. > > > > > One is the female manifestation. > > > > > A simple reading of the Durga Chalisa would > > > > > suffice to know that all is one. > > > > > > > > > > Yes I may have less knowledge of > > > > > the sadhana of Ma Tara, and her > > > > > devotees, is true. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Your knowledge about Tara Maa's sadhan and about her > devotees > > > are > > > > > > very limited, See, I have never been in any of the tantra > > > > schools, > > > > > > but whenever it was required, mother sent so many tantra > > > siddhas > > > > > to > > > > > > me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Once in Bhopal, Maa Tara sent her great sadhaka to me, you > > are > > > > > > totally wrong in ur perception of vama marga/dakshhina > maarga. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mother does ( " Ahetuki Kripa " ), I mean the blessings that u > > > never > > > > > > desired. > > > > > > > > > > > > We indians are forgetting being grateful - " Kritagyata " . > Pls. > > > > show > > > > > > tha same sothat we youngsters can learn from u. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , > > > > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri RamaNarayananji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am curious and wish to know more > > > > > > > about you. > > > > > > > Your age, and experience in astrology > > > > > > > and other professional areas, if you wish > > > > > > > to share. > > > > > > > I am curious because of 2 aspects. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Normally invoking Ma Tara is not > > > > > > > prescribed wantonly. Though i find > > > > > > > a SJC disciple doing this often, for which > > > > > > > I have in an freindly way, obstructed to > > > > > > > his such sugeestions to all and sundry > > > > > > > natives coming to him with queries. > > > > > > > This invocation is done mostly by the > > > > > > > left handed panth, Aghoris. Normal > > > > > > > householders would dare not do it. > > > > > > > Because she is Smashan Tara and one > > > > > > > of the MahaVidyas, who cannot be > > > > > > > approached by normal persons of lust, > > > > > > > Kama,Krodha and Lobha, which at least I > > > > > > > possess in few measures, if not in much. > > > > > > > These are dangerous ways to tread upon, > > > > > > > and one may have to part with his Life, > > > > > > > with a single wrong mistake or even a > > > > > > > wrong thought entering his mind during > > > > > > > the invocations. Though I am very much > > > > > > > aligned to the astral sphere, > > > > > > > but I would dare not do this > > > > > > > approaching before I cleanse myself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Sainath if You mean SaiBaba, > > > > > > > is not a God, but a messenger of > > > > > > > God, and a human. I do worship of him > > > > > > > daily, but if a detailed Pooja has to > > > > > > > be done, I would prefer to do of his > > > > > > > Lord Dattatreyaji. > > > > > > > Would not be Shri Hanumanji more > > > > > > > pleased if I do recitation of > > > > > > > Shri Ram Jaya Rama Jay Jaya Ram, > > > > > > > and is He not present wherever a > > > > > > > auspicious recital of > > > > > > > Ramayana is done ? In same way > > > > > > > instead of doiing too much > > > > > > > worship of any human being who > > > > > > > has perished, though > > > > > > > he may be a saint, is secondarily > > > > > > > preferable to me, primarily I would > > > > > > > prefer to live Life as per His teachings, > > > > > > > rather than pray to His photo.I > > > > > > > would prefer praying to the Avatars or > > > > > > > the MahaVishnu Himself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As regards Jyotisha, my Order of > > > > > > > devotion and belief is thus, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Belief in ones own Karma,his actions. > > > > > > > 2) Belief in God. > > > > > > > 3) Belief in Jyotisha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So i give preference to Jyotisha on the > > > > > > > last level of this 3 Tier. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As regards to remedial measures, I have a faith > > > > > > > that if a person is good, behaves good'with all, > > > > > > > performs his duties well,lives life as per the > > > > > > > injunctions laid by God, the God would Himself > > > > > > > help the native to overcome his purva paap, > > > > > > > by bringing remedies in His Life, > > > > > > > from time to time, so that His Bhakta is > > > > > > > absolved of thepast sins, and made > > > > > > > to reach nearer to Himself, ie. towards Godhead. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But the above by no means, should suggest, > > > > > > > that I do not believe in doing Remedial > > > > > > > 'measures, Japa, Mantras, worship etcetra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This would depend from a person to person, > > > > > > > on availibility of time, the inclinations > > > > > > > and the family atmosphere he is living in, > > > > > > > which must also be favourable to make him > > > > > > > do the above. The outward influences > > > > > > > and sorroundings do play a major role > > > > > > > in ones spiritual upliftment, and not just > > > > > > > depend on a individual alone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best regards, > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri RamNarayananji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please accept my heartfelt thanks for analysing > > > > > > > > my chart the way you did, which was unique, and > > > > > > > > your time and efforts given to studying the other > > > > > > > > divisional charts. You are the only one person > > > > > > > > who has been able to spiritually > > > > > > > > diaognise my chart uptil now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though I am interested in overcoming the spiritual > > > > > > > > astral entities and this plane, with my Sadhana, > > > > > > > > and keeping in touch directly with the astral sphere, > > > > > > > > yet I worship only the Mahamantras and the Lord Ram, > > > > > > > > Krishna and Shiva.Primarily, the form of Vishnu > > > > > > > > (Narayana with Discus ,Lotus, Conch and gada), > > > > > > > > is the form of Narayana I adore and worship. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma Tara would be difficult for me to handle, > > > > > > > > and invoke, not yet ready for her > > > > > > > > worship - ritually, at least not presently, > > > > > > > > few years hence, I would not know. > > > > > > > > Then how to go about it when I am not ready ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another point - When would I meet this sadhu > > > > > > > > who would change my name ? My name has already been > > > > > > > > changed from Krishna to Bhaskar, in Jyotish > > > > > > > > profession, but this change has been brought > > > > > > > > about by myself, and not through any Sadhu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sainatha and Lord Dattatreya I am already > > > > > > > > worshipping,though give major time only to > > > > > > > > Lord Krishna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Food packets etc. are going regularly from me, > > > > > > > > more than 30-40% of my income per month is spent > > > > > > > > regularly on such activities ,since few years, > > > > > > > > though this may be unrelaistic percentage to you, > > > > > > > > but this is so due to the Lords grace. I always > > > > > > > > believe whatever is mines is given from HIm to > > > > > > > > share with those lower than me,in income brackets. > > > > > > > > Though I face tough opposition from Home, > > > > > > > > for squandering larger share my income in this > > > > > > > > manner, but never allow anyone to rule me, in > > > > > > > > these decesions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you would answer my queries put up, > > > > > > > > which may be simple for you, > > > > > > > > but lot of meaning for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Last Query - Do You see meacquiring kaivalya > > > > > > > > in this Birth itself, if continous > > > > > > > > efforts are made for self development on > > > > > > > > spiritual angels by myself ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kind regards, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > > > > > > > <sree88ganesha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > > > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Bhaskar ji & Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive responses. i shall > make > > > an > > > > > > > attempt > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soorya is also called as Bhaskar. Every graha has a > > > Soorya > > > > > > Roopa > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > which Ketu's Soorya Roopa is called as Bhaskara. > This > > > name > > > > > > > > suggests that > > > > > > > > > we look into the role of Ketu in the chart of Shri > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > i > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > happy > > > > > > > > > to note the presence of Ketu in 12th to Karakamsa > > (Venus > > > is > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Atmakaraka in the chart). This gives a hint that the > > > bija > > > > > > > > necessary to > > > > > > > > > cause liberation/freedom from the clutches of grahas > > has > > > > > > already > > > > > > > > been > > > > > > > > > sown. Is the 'vriksha' growing? Is there a problem > to > > > the > > > > > > growth > > > > > > > > of this > > > > > > > > > Vriksha? Let us have a closer look at Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rasi chart: - Ketu is placed in 7th in kumbha with > > > Mantra > > > > > and > > > > > > > > Maatri > > > > > > > > > paadas, influenced by Mars(rahu's influence goes > > without > > > > > > saying) > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > Lagna. The powerful influence of Mars(anger and > > > > frustration) > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > Rahu(shock and deception) induces Ketu (who > represents > > > > > > > a 'Sadhu') > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > curse. This gives a hint about the generation of > Sarpa > > > > yoga > > > > > > and > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > development of keen interest in unraveling the > > mysteries > > > > > > > > surrounding > > > > > > > > > spirits and smashan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Navamsa chart: - Ketu is placed in Vrischika and is > > > subject > > > > > to > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > influence of Sani, Rahu & Mars. All the four are > placed > > > in > > > > > > > kendras > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > Navamsa lagna. This reinforces the intensity of the > > > yogas > > > > > > > > mentioned in > > > > > > > > > rasi chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shastiyamsa chart: - Ketu is placed in Meena and is > > > again > > > > > > > subject > > > > > > > > to the > > > > > > > > > influence of Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From all this we can infer that the native is > subject > > to > > > > the > > > > > > > curse > > > > > > > > of a > > > > > > > > > Sanyasin/Sadhu. This curse needs to be addressed and > > > > removed > > > > > so > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > facilitate the blessings of Ishta devatha in the > form > > of > > > > > Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once this curse is removed the blessings of Ishta > > > devatha > > > > > would > > > > > > > > flow. > > > > > > > > > How do we understand the curse is removed? The very > > same > > > > > Sadhu > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > bless with a new name!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 8th lord from Karakamsha is Moon. He is found > > > placed > > > > in > > > > > > 7th > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > karakamsha indicating the Rna to the soulmate. This > > Moon > > > is > > > > > > > > playing the > > > > > > > > > role of Putrakaraka and is also the significator of > > > > > > > > shisyas/followers > > > > > > > > > and all the clients(Moon rules Vikrama pada). Moon > is > > > the > > > > > Kaala > > > > > > > > Lord in > > > > > > > > > the diagram. This means the vision about these > > > > > significations > > > > > > > > needs to > > > > > > > > > be addressed. Since Moon is the Kaala lord remedies > are > > > to > > > > > be > > > > > > > done > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > have a directional change. This has to be followed > by > > > > > offering > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Hora > > > > > > > > > of Moon to the Lord by Chanting " OM NAMO > NAARAYANAYA " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 4th Lord from the Karakamsha is Guru(no planet > > > tenants > > > > > > Meena > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > navamsa). MA TARA when invoked would change the > gati. > > > > Before > > > > > > > > embarking > > > > > > > > > on this it is to be borne that the Guru is seen > cursing > > > in > > > > > > > > shastyamsa. > > > > > > > > > This Brahamana saapa needs to be removed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is the Atmakaraka and is placed in Mesha (in > > > Kroora > > > > > > > > shastyamsa) in > > > > > > > > > 9th in rasi chart. This Venus is being influenced by > > > Sani > > > > > and > > > > > > > Rahu > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > shastyamsa in chart indicating the reasons of this > > birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To remove the Sadhu saapa it is suggested that > > > > > > > > > 1.Chanting " OM NAMO BHAGAVATE SAINAATHAYA " - 108 > times > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > > morning > > > > > > > > > and evening for a period of 40 days. > > > > > > > > > 2.Read " SAI SATCHARITA " during this period. > > > > > > > > > 3.After the 40th day offer prayers at Shirdi on a > > > Tuesday > > > > > > > lighting > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > lamp using til tel. Offer " Chaamara " ( hand fan) to > > Shri > > > > > > > SAINAATHA. > > > > > > > > > Perform Rudraabhisheka to the Paada. > > > > > > > > > 4.Offer food packets/feed the poor. > > > > > > > > > 5.Pray fervently to remove the curse and request > > > SAINATHA > > > > to > > > > > > > > forgive for > > > > > > > > > past mistakes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After this offer your Sukra Hora to GANAPATI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i am not going into other remedial measures as these > > may > > > be > > > > > > known > > > > > > > > > already. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th house is called as Nirmala kshetra because it > > > behaves > > > > > like > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > mirror > > > > > > > > > reflecting the karmic load of the jivaas. Reflection > is > > > > > fruits > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > darshana which is the 10th house. 11th from the 10th > > > house > > > > > is > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > fruit. > > > > > > > > > In this sense 8th is considered as mirror. If given > > > > > importance > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > mirror is bound to reflect. Once reflected we > > understand > > > > the > > > > > > > > urgency to > > > > > > > > > shed off the load. In this way it helps remove the > > > > > > > mala/impurities > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > the past. This is a powerful Rudra karma. > Accumulation > > > of > > > > > > > unwanted > > > > > > > > > material is considered unnatural and is considered > > > > > cancerous. > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > Jiva > > > > > > > > > has to facilitate the transformation of the unwanted > > > > > resources > > > > > > > > kept in > > > > > > > > > possession out of ignorance. This is also Rudra > > > Aaradana. > > > > > How > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > use > > > > > > > > > this principle? See the 8th placed planet(if no > planet > > > > > choose > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Lord) > > > > > > > > > from the karakaamsha and offer the Hora to the Lord > by > > > way > > > > > of > > > > > > > > chanting > > > > > > > > > Savitur Gayathri or " OM NAMO NAARAAYANAYA " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As usual i am sorry for the length of the mail. If i > > had > > > > > > exceeded > > > > > > > > > somewhere in explaining certain issues i am sorry > for > > > the > > > > > same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > > > > > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri RamNarayananaji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You seem to be informed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Your technical language is a little difficult > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uinderstand. If You would be kind enough to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > explain what you have explained with illustrations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of my Chart, i would consider myself fortunate and > > > > blessed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Birth details- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 28th June 1961. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10.14am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eluru ( near Vijaywada) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 16.45N 81.09E > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Leo Lagna (Vargottama). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope you would be kind enough to explain through > my > > > > > example > > > > > > > Birth > > > > > > > > > Chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > > > > > > > > > sree88ganesha@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > > > > > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive your response > which > > > is > > > > as > > > > > > > usual > > > > > > > > full > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > warmth. i understand that much discussions have > > been > > > > > done > > > > > > > > during > > > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > > > days. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i shall move on to Chandra soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As regards 4th the same is called as the kshetra > > > > > > > of 'shuddhi', > > > > > > > > while > > > > > > > > > > 8th > > > > > > > > > > > is called the 'nirmala kshetra' and 12th is > called > > > > > > > > as 'yoganidra > > > > > > > > > > > kshetra'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The word moksha hints at liberating the 'jiva' > from > > > the > > > > > > > > clutches of > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > graha. The dharmaamsa chart will play a powerful > > > role > > > > in > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > regard. > > > > > > > > > > > This means locate the atmakaraka graha in the > > > navamsa > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > See the > > > > > > > > > > > 12th from it. This is called > as 'jivanmukthaamsa'. > > > The > > > > > > > planet > > > > > > > > placed > > > > > > > > > > > there or the Lord would give you the hint about > > > > > the 'Ishta > > > > > > > > devatha' > > > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > > when turned to would do the needful. The " Ishta > > > > Devatha " > > > > > > > > should be > > > > > > > > > > > considered as the 'bhokthri' while the > atmakaraka > > > > should > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > considered > > > > > > > > > > > as the 'bhogya'. The hora of the atmakaraka is > to > > be > > > > > > offered > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > Ishta > > > > > > > > > > > devatha on a daily basis by chanting the 'nama' . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 4th from Karaakamsa will indicate > the 'gati'. > > > The > > > > > 4th > > > > > > > > placed > > > > > > > > > > planet > > > > > > > > > > > will give you hint about that devatha who would > > > cause > > > > > these > > > > > > > > changes > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > gathi. This devatha would act as MA and would be > > > doing > > > > > the > > > > > > > job > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > cleansing. Dasa Maha Vidya function begins here. > > > > > > > > > > > " Gatistvam.............Bhavani " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 8th stands for the 'Rna' that needs to be > > > disposed > > > > > off. > > > > > > > > See the > > > > > > > > > > > planet in the 8th from Atmakaraka or see the > lord > > of > > > > 8th > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > karakamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > Offer that Hora of that planet to the Lord > chanting > > > > > Savitur > > > > > > > > Gayathri > > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > " OM NAMO NARAYANAYA " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brahma Samhita speaks about Goloka which is > beyond > > > the > > > > > > > sphere > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > grahas. > > > > > > > > > > > May the Lord bless us all this Supreme Bliss of > HIS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i shall stop now and continue later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > > > > > > > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > > > > > > > mishra.lalit@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx for posting such a nice enlightenning > post > > > to > > > > > > group, > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > enough food for thoughts, I took time to reply > to > > > u > > > > as > > > > > i > > > > > > > > wanted to > > > > > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > > > > > if our members are really trying to update > their > > > > > existing > > > > > > > > > knowledge > > > > > > > > > > > > base, i m not very appreciative of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now as enough time has been spent and > > > Mahashivaratri > > > > > is > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > over, > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > day, the way Lord Shiva managed a > Rudrabhisheka > > > for > > > > me > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > overwhelmed > > > > > > > > > > > > me, I had even not a single Vilva Patra and I > was > > > > > given > > > > > > > > everything > > > > > > > > > > > > ready, just in couple of seconds, This also > gives > > > me > > > > > > > enough > > > > > > > > self > > > > > > > > > > > > confidence that I m right in my approach, > several > > > > > times i > > > > > > > m > > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > to write openly about spiritual experiences, > > Sorry > > > I > > > > > do > > > > > > > it, > > > > > > > > coz, > > > > > > > > > > Good > > > > > > > > > > > > has to be known to everyone, to spread > > everywhere, > > > > and > > > > > > > ego ? > > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > > > ego > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > there, when we know all is God's maya and all > the > > > > > > > recepients > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > > > souls like me, as near to God as me is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, I think time has come back to learn about > > the > > > > > > > > exaltations > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > u, > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. be kind to me and to group and tell us > from > > > ur > > > > > > > treasure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <sree88ganesha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive > > > your > > > > > mail. > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > > happy > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > note > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > deep interest in the subject. > i > > am > > > > > just > > > > > > > back > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > schedule. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shall > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be away for a few more days - > > Siva > > > > > Ratri > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > round > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > corner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i feel that every pravesha has > a > > > > > definite > > > > > > > > > > > > > significance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mean that i am trying to > belittle > > > the > > > > > > > thithi > > > > > > > > > > pravesha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > theory. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shall > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go into this later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i just came across our > respected > > > > > > > > Chandrasekharji's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > observation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > connection with exaltation and > > > > > > > debilitation > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > grahas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through others observation. i > am > > > > sorry > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me take up one by one. You > > can > > > > > stop > > > > > > me > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > > > > you/the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > group > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > feels > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is boring. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually > > yours, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir P.S. RamNarain Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar, Hope u r fine > there > > > and > > > > > > doing > > > > > > > > well, > > > > > > > > > > From > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > side, We > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are expecting u to complete > ur > > > > > > > interesting > > > > > > > > > article > > > > > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > exaltation in which u > indicated > > > > > Kurma > > > > > > > > Avtaar's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > significations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > undestanding the exaltation > > > > theories. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. find some time for our > > > sake, I > > > > > w'd > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > request > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > throw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > light on significations of > > Tithi > > > > > > Pravesha > > > > > > > > > charts, > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > sr. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > member > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > group has requested for that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 This is not a 5 minutes noodle that one can make and eat. And to listen to naad is not a childs play, as it is made out to be. I am already into such type of Yoga but not elaborating unless I find a person upyukta enough to share. So I let the fools think that I am a fool, and they are smart. Which is the reason I said 5-7 years.Not interested in showing my knowledge unnecessarily to just anybody.Spirituality is not talking and showing wiseness about ownself and talking that the other person is coward.Spiritual people do not talk adn behave the way you are doing. Nobody is badly trapped here but you. You are badly trapped in pride of miniscule knowledge, and derogate the others. Spirituality is to be spiritual and not to show that I am spiritual. Spirituality is never to underestimate the opposite person. The Yoga I do, here a Yogi has just to touch a book to know what is the content inside it without having to read the book. The Yoga I do one can leave his body and visit any place and come back within few minutes. The Yoga I do, one can meet and talk nto his ancestors. The Yoga I do one gets direct instructions from the Lord. I have many more such matters to let you know. But pl wait. I am not here to flaunter my knowledge of God, and spirituality, but at least not make the other person small with my littke knowledge portrayed as big. Lions dont cry. Even if they have to, they would do it alone. I am disappointed very much with the tones in your last few mails.They smack of superiority ove ones comrades junior or senior. And I cannot remain under such atmosphere to be reproached again and again. God Bless You. Bhaskar. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <mishra.lalit wrote: > > That coz u are unable to watch a movie show coz u dont have Rs.150/- > in ur account, should u cry there is no theater or no movie is being > shown. > > What a great coardice thoughts u r having dear lion, why u w'd take 5 > yrs, do it tomorrow, why u dont have confidence, do u think God or Me > is ur enemy ? > > Do we ask any money from u ??? See, how badly u r trapped within ur > thoughts... > > Go and sit tomorrow, have courage , you will get it. > > Ok.. > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Bhai Lalitji, > > > > Pranam aapko. > > Namaskaar aapko. > > > > Mere paas toh, > > na itni Bhakti hai, > > na itni Shakti hai, > > aur na Panditya hai. > > > > Main jis din naad sun loonga > > aapka description confirm kar doonga. > > parantu lagta nahin ki mujhe 5-7 > > saal se kam lagenge meri aaj ki sthiti > > dekhte hue. Baaki Bhagwaan ki kripa kab > > baras jaaye so toh Prabhu hi jaane. > > > > Aapko Pranaam isliye kiya, kyonki aap Brahmin > > hai. Mujhe aapki umar se koi farak > > nahin padta. Aaapki buddhi ki thah kahan tak hai > > use mujhe koi sarokaar nahin, balki jmere > > liye to chota bachha agar Brahman (Mishra) ho > > toh bhi poojniyah hai. > > > > Aur aap toh prakhand pandit lagte ho mujhe. > > > > kind regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > Namaskaar, After we hear the Anahata's Naad, We reach in the > > > innermost circle but a sense of duality remains, We are hearing a > > > voice, that does mean, source of the voice is different than us. > > > > > > Next Step is to realize this Anahat's naad is my own naada, I m > > the > > > Shiva, Shivoaham ... Vibhum Vyapakam !! > > > > > > We need mother's pull to get to this plane, " Ishwar PraniDhaan " . > > > > > > It's when u feel the culmination of love, This is most well known > > > spiritual personalities miss, Now, they bend over dumping the > > world > > > with hundreds of the books . > > > > > > It has been quite easy for me, even i didnt try, Mother herself > > > caused it to happen. She does it this way for everybody, who is > > not > > > into Panditya rather have bhakti. > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear lalitji, > > > > > > > > A small correction, if You allow me. > > > > > > > > A person who can develop himself spiritually > > > > to a level where he can hear the anahata naad, > > > > or the sound of omnipresent omniscient, > > > > omnipotent Om, for this person, the step > > > > towards self realization gets over. > > > > He needs nothing to know more, for > > > > through this naad his 3rd eye ,the > > > > Agya chakra is fully awakened and he has > > > > the answers to all he is seeking, > > > > has seeked, or would be seeking. > > > > > > > > This is not easy to achieve, > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar, When for sometime (depends case to case) we > > > > remain 'Normal > > > > > Naitika' our " JyotishMati " awakens, We need not make any > > > > definition, > > > > > rather we need to understand the definition inherent to the > > > > universe, > > > > > > > > > > We need to hear the Anahat's naad, this naad is refreshing > > like > > > > > taking a good bath, then the steps towards self realization > > > begins. > > > > > > > > > > It's all practical and a must to achieve, quite achievable, > > there > > > > is > > > > > no doubt at all. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalitji, > > > > > > > > > > > > We Indians, most of us, > > > > > > are certainly 'Kritigya' and > > > > > > display our kritagyta which is nothing > > > > > > extraordinary but 'Normal 'Naitikta' > > > > > > (Duty, Ethics and norms). This > > > > > > krigayta is the reason for me not going to > > > > > > meet Mother in a defiled manner. > > > > > > Here defiled means not being at par of > > > > > > my own paribhasha (definition)of being a > > > > > > proper yaachaka or a good son. > > > > > > I have my own scales of judgement for > > > > > > a good astrologer, a good sadhaka, a good > > > > > > man, a good friend etc.and here I fall > > > > > > short from own made levels which may be > > > > > > around 200 years old. therefore meet > > > > > > I must, but not yet ready. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am grateful to all the Gods and Goddesses, > > > > > > and Lord Shri Krishna is fully looking after > > > > > > me and giving me more than what I am worth. > > > > > > I do not see the Lord and Ma as different. > > > > > > They are just 2 Forms of the Whole or One. > > > > > > One is the female manifestation. > > > > > > A simple reading of the Durga Chalisa would > > > > > > suffice to know that all is one. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes I may have less knowledge of > > > > > > the sadhana of Ma Tara, and her > > > > > > devotees, is true. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your knowledge about Tara Maa's sadhan and about her > > devotees > > > > are > > > > > > > very limited, See, I have never been in any of the tantra > > > > > schools, > > > > > > > but whenever it was required, mother sent so many tantra > > > > siddhas > > > > > > to > > > > > > > me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once in Bhopal, Maa Tara sent her great sadhaka to me, > you > > > are > > > > > > > totally wrong in ur perception of vama marga/dakshhina > > maarga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mother does ( " Ahetuki Kripa " ), I mean the blessings that > u > > > > never > > > > > > > desired. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We indians are forgetting being grateful - " Kritagyata " . > > Pls. > > > > > show > > > > > > > tha same sothat we youngsters can learn from u. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , > > > > > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri RamaNarayananji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am curious and wish to know more > > > > > > > > about you. > > > > > > > > Your age, and experience in astrology > > > > > > > > and other professional areas, if you wish > > > > > > > > to share. > > > > > > > > I am curious because of 2 aspects. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Normally invoking Ma Tara is not > > > > > > > > prescribed wantonly. Though i find > > > > > > > > a SJC disciple doing this often, for which > > > > > > > > I have in an freindly way, obstructed to > > > > > > > > his such sugeestions to all and sundry > > > > > > > > natives coming to him with queries. > > > > > > > > This invocation is done mostly by the > > > > > > > > left handed panth, Aghoris. Normal > > > > > > > > householders would dare not do it. > > > > > > > > Because she is Smashan Tara and one > > > > > > > > of the MahaVidyas, who cannot be > > > > > > > > approached by normal persons of lust, > > > > > > > > Kama,Krodha and Lobha, which at least I > > > > > > > > possess in few measures, if not in much. > > > > > > > > These are dangerous ways to tread upon, > > > > > > > > and one may have to part with his Life, > > > > > > > > with a single wrong mistake or even a > > > > > > > > wrong thought entering his mind during > > > > > > > > the invocations. Though I am very much > > > > > > > > aligned to the astral sphere, > > > > > > > > but I would dare not do this > > > > > > > > approaching before I cleanse myself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Sainath if You mean SaiBaba, > > > > > > > > is not a God, but a messenger of > > > > > > > > God, and a human. I do worship of him > > > > > > > > daily, but if a detailed Pooja has to > > > > > > > > be done, I would prefer to do of his > > > > > > > > Lord Dattatreyaji. > > > > > > > > Would not be Shri Hanumanji more > > > > > > > > pleased if I do recitation of > > > > > > > > Shri Ram Jaya Rama Jay Jaya Ram, > > > > > > > > and is He not present wherever a > > > > > > > > auspicious recital of > > > > > > > > Ramayana is done ? In same way > > > > > > > > instead of doiing too much > > > > > > > > worship of any human being who > > > > > > > > has perished, though > > > > > > > > he may be a saint, is secondarily > > > > > > > > preferable to me, primarily I would > > > > > > > > prefer to live Life as per His teachings, > > > > > > > > rather than pray to His photo.I > > > > > > > > would prefer praying to the Avatars or > > > > > > > > the MahaVishnu Himself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As regards Jyotisha, my Order of > > > > > > > > devotion and belief is thus, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Belief in ones own Karma,his actions. > > > > > > > > 2) Belief in God. > > > > > > > > 3) Belief in Jyotisha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So i give preference to Jyotisha on the > > > > > > > > last level of this 3 Tier. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As regards to remedial measures, I have a faith > > > > > > > > that if a person is good, behaves good'with all, > > > > > > > > performs his duties well,lives life as per the > > > > > > > > injunctions laid by God, the God would Himself > > > > > > > > help the native to overcome his purva paap, > > > > > > > > by bringing remedies in His Life, > > > > > > > > from time to time, so that His Bhakta is > > > > > > > > absolved of thepast sins, and made > > > > > > > > to reach nearer to Himself, ie. towards Godhead. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But the above by no means, should suggest, > > > > > > > > that I do not believe in doing Remedial > > > > > > > > 'measures, Japa, Mantras, worship etcetra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This would depend from a person to person, > > > > > > > > on availibility of time, the inclinations > > > > > > > > and the family atmosphere he is living in, > > > > > > > > which must also be favourable to make him > > > > > > > > do the above. The outward influences > > > > > > > > and sorroundings do play a major role > > > > > > > > in ones spiritual upliftment, and not just > > > > > > > > depend on a individual alone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best regards, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri RamNarayananji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please accept my heartfelt thanks for analysing > > > > > > > > > my chart the way you did, which was unique, and > > > > > > > > > your time and efforts given to studying the other > > > > > > > > > divisional charts. You are the only one person > > > > > > > > > who has been able to spiritually > > > > > > > > > diaognise my chart uptil now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though I am interested in overcoming the spiritual > > > > > > > > > astral entities and this plane, with my Sadhana, > > > > > > > > > and keeping in touch directly with the astral sphere, > > > > > > > > > yet I worship only the Mahamantras and the Lord Ram, > > > > > > > > > Krishna and Shiva.Primarily, the form of Vishnu > > > > > > > > > (Narayana with Discus ,Lotus, Conch and gada), > > > > > > > > > is the form of Narayana I adore and worship. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma Tara would be difficult for me to handle, > > > > > > > > > and invoke, not yet ready for her > > > > > > > > > worship - ritually, at least not presently, > > > > > > > > > few years hence, I would not know. > > > > > > > > > Then how to go about it when I am not ready ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another point - When would I meet this sadhu > > > > > > > > > who would change my name ? My name has already been > > > > > > > > > changed from Krishna to Bhaskar, in Jyotish > > > > > > > > > profession, but this change has been brought > > > > > > > > > about by myself, and not through any Sadhu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sainatha and Lord Dattatreya I am already > > > > > > > > > worshipping,though give major time only to > > > > > > > > > Lord Krishna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Food packets etc. are going regularly from me, > > > > > > > > > more than 30-40% of my income per month is spent > > > > > > > > > regularly on such activities ,since few years, > > > > > > > > > though this may be unrelaistic percentage to you, > > > > > > > > > but this is so due to the Lords grace. I always > > > > > > > > > believe whatever is mines is given from HIm to > > > > > > > > > share with those lower than me,in income brackets. > > > > > > > > > Though I face tough opposition from Home, > > > > > > > > > for squandering larger share my income in this > > > > > > > > > manner, but never allow anyone to rule me, in > > > > > > > > > these decesions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you would answer my queries put up, > > > > > > > > > which may be simple for you, > > > > > > > > > but lot of meaning for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Last Query - Do You see meacquiring kaivalya > > > > > > > > > in this Birth itself, if continous > > > > > > > > > efforts are made for self development on > > > > > > > > > spiritual angels by myself ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kind regards, > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > > > > > > > > <sree88ganesha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > > > > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Bhaskar ji & Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive responses. i shall > > make > > > > an > > > > > > > > attempt > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soorya is also called as Bhaskar. Every graha has a > > > > Soorya > > > > > > > Roopa > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > which Ketu's Soorya Roopa is called as Bhaskara. > > This > > > > name > > > > > > > > > suggests that > > > > > > > > > > we look into the role of Ketu in the chart of Shri > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > i > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > > happy > > > > > > > > > > to note the presence of Ketu in 12th to Karakamsa > > > (Venus > > > > is > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Atmakaraka in the chart). This gives a hint that > the > > > > bija > > > > > > > > > necessary to > > > > > > > > > > cause liberation/freedom from the clutches of > grahas > > > has > > > > > > > already > > > > > > > > > been > > > > > > > > > > sown. Is the 'vriksha' growing? Is there a problem > > to > > > > the > > > > > > > growth > > > > > > > > > of this > > > > > > > > > > Vriksha? Let us have a closer look at Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rasi chart: - Ketu is placed in 7th in kumbha with > > > > Mantra > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > Maatri > > > > > > > > > > paadas, influenced by Mars(rahu's influence goes > > > without > > > > > > > saying) > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > Lagna. The powerful influence of Mars(anger and > > > > > frustration) > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > Rahu(shock and deception) induces Ketu (who > > represents > > > > > > > > a 'Sadhu') > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > curse. This gives a hint about the generation of > > Sarpa > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > development of keen interest in unraveling the > > > mysteries > > > > > > > > > surrounding > > > > > > > > > > spirits and smashan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Navamsa chart: - Ketu is placed in Vrischika and is > > > > subject > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > influence of Sani, Rahu & Mars. All the four are > > placed > > > > in > > > > > > > > kendras > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > Navamsa lagna. This reinforces the intensity of the > > > > yogas > > > > > > > > > mentioned in > > > > > > > > > > rasi chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shastiyamsa chart: - Ketu is placed in Meena and is > > > > again > > > > > > > > subject > > > > > > > > > to the > > > > > > > > > > influence of Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From all this we can infer that the native is > > subject > > > to > > > > > the > > > > > > > > curse > > > > > > > > > of a > > > > > > > > > > Sanyasin/Sadhu. This curse needs to be addressed > and > > > > > removed > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > facilitate the blessings of Ishta devatha in the > > form > > > of > > > > > > Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once this curse is removed the blessings of Ishta > > > > devatha > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > flow. > > > > > > > > > > How do we understand the curse is removed? The very > > > same > > > > > > Sadhu > > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > bless with a new name!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 8th lord from Karakamsha is Moon. He is found > > > > placed > > > > > in > > > > > > > 7th > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > karakamsha indicating the Rna to the soulmate. This > > > Moon > > > > is > > > > > > > > > playing the > > > > > > > > > > role of Putrakaraka and is also the significator of > > > > > > > > > shisyas/followers > > > > > > > > > > and all the clients(Moon rules Vikrama pada). Moon > > is > > > > the > > > > > > Kaala > > > > > > > > > Lord in > > > > > > > > > > the diagram. This means the vision about these > > > > > > significations > > > > > > > > > needs to > > > > > > > > > > be addressed. Since Moon is the Kaala lord remedies > > are > > > > to > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > done > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > have a directional change. This has to be followed > > by > > > > > > offering > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Hora > > > > > > > > > > of Moon to the Lord by Chanting " OM NAMO > > NAARAYANAYA " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 4th Lord from the Karakamsha is Guru(no planet > > > > tenants > > > > > > > Meena > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > navamsa). MA TARA when invoked would change the > > gati. > > > > > Before > > > > > > > > > embarking > > > > > > > > > > on this it is to be borne that the Guru is seen > > cursing > > > > in > > > > > > > > > shastyamsa. > > > > > > > > > > This Brahamana saapa needs to be removed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is the Atmakaraka and is placed in Mesha (in > > > > Kroora > > > > > > > > > shastyamsa) in > > > > > > > > > > 9th in rasi chart. This Venus is being influenced > by > > > > Sani > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > Rahu > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > shastyamsa in chart indicating the reasons of this > > > birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To remove the Sadhu saapa it is suggested that > > > > > > > > > > 1.Chanting " OM NAMO BHAGAVATE SAINAATHAYA " - 108 > > times > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > morning > > > > > > > > > > and evening for a period of 40 days. > > > > > > > > > > 2.Read " SAI SATCHARITA " during this period. > > > > > > > > > > 3.After the 40th day offer prayers at Shirdi on a > > > > Tuesday > > > > > > > > lighting > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > lamp using til tel. Offer " Chaamara " ( hand fan) to > > > Shri > > > > > > > > SAINAATHA. > > > > > > > > > > Perform Rudraabhisheka to the Paada. > > > > > > > > > > 4.Offer food packets/feed the poor. > > > > > > > > > > 5.Pray fervently to remove the curse and request > > > > SAINATHA > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > forgive for > > > > > > > > > > past mistakes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After this offer your Sukra Hora to GANAPATI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i am not going into other remedial measures as > these > > > may > > > > be > > > > > > > known > > > > > > > > > > already. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th house is called as Nirmala kshetra because it > > > > behaves > > > > > > like > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > mirror > > > > > > > > > > reflecting the karmic load of the jivaas. > Reflection > > is > > > > > > fruits > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > darshana which is the 10th house. 11th from the > 10th > > > > house > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > fruit. > > > > > > > > > > In this sense 8th is considered as mirror. If given > > > > > > importance > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > mirror is bound to reflect. Once reflected we > > > understand > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > urgency to > > > > > > > > > > shed off the load. In this way it helps remove the > > > > > > > > mala/impurities > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > the past. This is a powerful Rudra karma. > > Accumulation > > > > of > > > > > > > > unwanted > > > > > > > > > > material is considered unnatural and is considered > > > > > > cancerous. > > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > > Jiva > > > > > > > > > > has to facilitate the transformation of the > unwanted > > > > > > resources > > > > > > > > > kept in > > > > > > > > > > possession out of ignorance. This is also Rudra > > > > Aaradana. > > > > > > How > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > use > > > > > > > > > > this principle? See the 8th placed planet(if no > > planet > > > > > > choose > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Lord) > > > > > > > > > > from the karakaamsha and offer the Hora to the Lord > > by > > > > way > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > chanting > > > > > > > > > > Savitur Gayathri or " OM NAMO NAARAAYANAYA " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As usual i am sorry for the length of the mail. If > i > > > had > > > > > > > exceeded > > > > > > > > > > somewhere in explaining certain issues i am sorry > > for > > > > the > > > > > > same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > > > > > > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri RamNarayananaji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You seem to be informed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Your technical language is a little difficult > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uinderstand. If You would be kind enough to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > explain what you have explained with illustrations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of my Chart, i would consider myself fortunate > and > > > > > blessed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Birth details- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 28th June 1961. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10.14am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eluru ( near Vijaywada) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 16.45N 81.09E > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Leo Lagna (Vargottama). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope you would be kind enough to explain through > > my > > > > > > example > > > > > > > > Birth > > > > > > > > > > Chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > > > > > > > > > > sree88ganesha@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > > > > > > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive your response > > which > > > > is > > > > > as > > > > > > > > usual > > > > > > > > > full > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > warmth. i understand that much discussions have > > > been > > > > > > done > > > > > > > > > during > > > > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > > > > days. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i shall move on to Chandra soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As regards 4th the same is called as the > kshetra > > > > > > > > of 'shuddhi', > > > > > > > > > while > > > > > > > > > > > 8th > > > > > > > > > > > > is called the 'nirmala kshetra' and 12th is > > called > > > > > > > > > as 'yoganidra > > > > > > > > > > > > kshetra'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The word moksha hints at liberating the 'jiva' > > from > > > > the > > > > > > > > > clutches of > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > graha. The dharmaamsa chart will play a > powerful > > > > role > > > > > in > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > regard. > > > > > > > > > > > > This means locate the atmakaraka graha in the > > > > navamsa > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > See the > > > > > > > > > > > > 12th from it. This is called > > as 'jivanmukthaamsa'. > > > > The > > > > > > > > planet > > > > > > > > > placed > > > > > > > > > > > > there or the Lord would give you the hint about > > > > > > the 'Ishta > > > > > > > > > devatha' > > > > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > > > when turned to would do the needful. The " Ishta > > > > > Devatha " > > > > > > > > > should be > > > > > > > > > > > > considered as the 'bhokthri' while the > > atmakaraka > > > > > should > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > considered > > > > > > > > > > > > as the 'bhogya'. The hora of the atmakaraka is > > to > > > be > > > > > > > offered > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > Ishta > > > > > > > > > > > > devatha on a daily basis by chanting > the 'nama' . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 4th from Karaakamsa will indicate > > the 'gati'. > > > > The > > > > > > 4th > > > > > > > > > placed > > > > > > > > > > > planet > > > > > > > > > > > > will give you hint about that devatha who would > > > > cause > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > changes > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > gathi. This devatha would act as MA and would > be > > > > doing > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > job > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > cleansing. Dasa Maha Vidya function begins here. > > > > > > > > > > > > " Gatistvam.............Bhavani " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 8th stands for the 'Rna' that needs to be > > > > disposed > > > > > > off. > > > > > > > > > See the > > > > > > > > > > > > planet in the 8th from Atmakaraka or see the > > lord > > > of > > > > > 8th > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > karakamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > Offer that Hora of that planet to the Lord > > chanting > > > > > > Savitur > > > > > > > > > Gayathri > > > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > " OM NAMO NARAYANAYA " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brahma Samhita speaks about Goloka which is > > beyond > > > > the > > > > > > > > sphere > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > grahas. > > > > > > > > > > > > May the Lord bless us all this Supreme Bliss of > > HIS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i shall stop now and continue later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > > > > > > > > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > > > > > > > > mishra.lalit@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx for posting such a nice enlightenning > > post > > > > to > > > > > > > group, > > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > enough food for thoughts, I took time to > reply > > to > > > > u > > > > > as > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > wanted to > > > > > > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > > > > > > if our members are really trying to update > > their > > > > > > existing > > > > > > > > > > knowledge > > > > > > > > > > > > > base, i m not very appreciative of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now as enough time has been spent and > > > > Mahashivaratri > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > over, > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > day, the way Lord Shiva managed a > > Rudrabhisheka > > > > for > > > > > me > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > overwhelmed > > > > > > > > > > > > > me, I had even not a single Vilva Patra and I > > was > > > > > > given > > > > > > > > > everything > > > > > > > > > > > > > ready, just in couple of seconds, This also > > gives > > > > me > > > > > > > > enough > > > > > > > > > self > > > > > > > > > > > > > confidence that I m right in my approach, > > several > > > > > > times i > > > > > > > > m > > > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > to write openly about spiritual experiences, > > > Sorry > > > > I > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > it, > > > > > > > > > coz, > > > > > > > > > > > Good > > > > > > > > > > > > > has to be known to everyone, to spread > > > everywhere, > > > > > and > > > > > > > > ego ? > > > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > > > > ego > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > there, when we know all is God's maya and all > > the > > > > > > > > recepients > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > > > > souls like me, as near to God as me is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, I think time has come back to learn > about > > > the > > > > > > > > > exaltations > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > u, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. be kind to me and to group and tell us > > from > > > > ur > > > > > > > > treasure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <sree88ganesha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to > receive > > > > your > > > > > > mail. > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > > > happy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > note > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > deep interest in the subject. > > i > > > am > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > back > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > schedule. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shall > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be away for a few more days - > > > Siva > > > > > > Ratri > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > round > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > corner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i feel that every pravesha > has > > a > > > > > > definite > > > > > > > > > > > > > > significance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mean that i am trying to > > belittle > > > > the > > > > > > > > thithi > > > > > > > > > > > pravesha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > theory. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shall > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go into this later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i just came across our > > respected > > > > > > > > > Chandrasekharji's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > observation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > connection with exaltation > and > > > > > > > > debilitation > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > grahas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through others observation. i > > am > > > > > sorry > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me take up one by one. > You > > > can > > > > > > stop > > > > > > > me > > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you/the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > group > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > feels > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is boring. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually > > > yours, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir P.S. RamNarain Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar, Hope u r fine > > there > > > > and > > > > > > > doing > > > > > > > > > well, > > > > > > > > > > > From > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > side, We > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are expecting u to complete > > ur > > > > > > > > interesting > > > > > > > > > > article > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > exaltation in which u > > indicated > > > > > > Kurma > > > > > > > > > Avtaar's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > significations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > undestanding the exaltation > > > > > theories. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. find some time for our > > > > sake, I > > > > > > w'd > > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > > request > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > throw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > light on significations of > > > Tithi > > > > > > > Pravesha > > > > > > > > > > charts, > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sr. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > member > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > group has requested for > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Bhaskar Ji, Same mistake again, You dont know anything about a subject and still discussing the subject's intricacies, how qualified ur perception is. Just get rid of it, that even simpler than 5 minutes noodle, provided, u know the cooking. Naad is called Anahat, it's incesantly echoing, all u need is to catch it. I said, u can hear it, so, u can hear it, believe urself. regards, Lalit Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > This is not a 5 minutes noodle > that one can make and eat. > And to listen to naad is not > a childs play, as it is made out > to be. > I am already into such type of > Yoga but not elaborating unless > I find a person upyukta enough to > share. So I let the fools think > that I am a fool, and they > are smart. > > Which is the reason I said > 5-7 years.Not interested in showing > my knowledge unnecessarily to just > anybody.Spirituality is not talking > and showing wiseness about ownself > and talking that the other person > is coward.Spiritual people > do not talk adn behave > the way you are doing. > > Nobody is badly trapped here but you. > You are badly trapped in pride of > miniscule knowledge, > and derogate the others. > Spirituality is to be spiritual > and > not to show that I am spiritual. > Spirituality is never to underestimate the > opposite person. > > The Yoga I do, > here a Yogi has just to touch a book > to know what is the content inside it > without having to read the book. > > The Yoga I do one can leave his body > and visit any place and come back within > few minutes. > > The Yoga I do, one can meet and talk nto > his ancestors. > > The Yoga I do one gets direct instructions > from the Lord. > I have many more such matters to let > you know. > > But pl wait. > I am not here to flaunter my knowledge of > God, and spirituality, > but at least not make the other person small > with my littke knowledge > portrayed as big. > > Lions dont cry. > Even if they have to, they would do it alone. > > I am disappointed very much with the tones > in your last few mails.They smack of superiority > ove ones comrades junior or senior. > And I cannot remain under such atmosphere > to be reproached again and again. > > God Bless You. > > Bhaskar. > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > That coz u are unable to watch a movie show coz u dont have > Rs.150/- > > in ur account, should u cry there is no theater or no movie is > being > > shown. > > > > What a great coardice thoughts u r having dear lion, why u w'd > take 5 > > yrs, do it tomorrow, why u dont have confidence, do u think God or > Me > > is ur enemy ? > > > > Do we ask any money from u ??? See, how badly u r trapped within > ur > > thoughts... > > > > Go and sit tomorrow, have courage , you will get it. > > > > Ok.. > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Bhai Lalitji, > > > > > > Pranam aapko. > > > Namaskaar aapko. > > > > > > Mere paas toh, > > > na itni Bhakti hai, > > > na itni Shakti hai, > > > aur na Panditya hai. > > > > > > Main jis din naad sun loonga > > > aapka description confirm kar doonga. > > > parantu lagta nahin ki mujhe 5-7 > > > saal se kam lagenge meri aaj ki sthiti > > > dekhte hue. Baaki Bhagwaan ki kripa kab > > > baras jaaye so toh Prabhu hi jaane. > > > > > > Aapko Pranaam isliye kiya, kyonki aap Brahmin > > > hai. Mujhe aapki umar se koi farak > > > nahin padta. Aaapki buddhi ki thah kahan tak hai > > > use mujhe koi sarokaar nahin, balki jmere > > > liye to chota bachha agar Brahman (Mishra) ho > > > toh bhi poojniyah hai. > > > > > > Aur aap toh prakhand pandit lagte ho mujhe. > > > > > > kind regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > Namaskaar, After we hear the Anahata's Naad, We reach in the > > > > innermost circle but a sense of duality remains, We are > hearing a > > > > voice, that does mean, source of the voice is different than > us. > > > > > > > > Next Step is to realize this Anahat's naad is my own naada, I > m > > > the > > > > Shiva, Shivoaham ... Vibhum Vyapakam !! > > > > > > > > We need mother's pull to get to this plane, " Ishwar > PraniDhaan " . > > > > > > > > It's when u feel the culmination of love, This is most well > known > > > > spiritual personalities miss, Now, they bend over dumping the > > > world > > > > with hundreds of the books . > > > > > > > > It has been quite easy for me, even i didnt try, Mother > herself > > > > caused it to happen. She does it this way for everybody, who > is > > > not > > > > into Panditya rather have bhakti. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear lalitji, > > > > > > > > > > A small correction, if You allow me. > > > > > > > > > > A person who can develop himself spiritually > > > > > to a level where he can hear the anahata naad, > > > > > or the sound of omnipresent omniscient, > > > > > omnipotent Om, for this person, the step > > > > > towards self realization gets over. > > > > > He needs nothing to know more, for > > > > > through this naad his 3rd eye ,the > > > > > Agya chakra is fully awakened and he has > > > > > the answers to all he is seeking, > > > > > has seeked, or would be seeking. > > > > > > > > > > This is not easy to achieve, > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar, When for sometime (depends case to case) we > > > > > remain 'Normal > > > > > > Naitika' our " JyotishMati " awakens, We need not make any > > > > > definition, > > > > > > rather we need to understand the definition inherent to > the > > > > > universe, > > > > > > > > > > > > We need to hear the Anahat's naad, this naad is refreshing > > > like > > > > > > taking a good bath, then the steps towards self > realization > > > > begins. > > > > > > > > > > > > It's all practical and a must to achieve, quite > achievable, > > > there > > > > > is > > > > > > no doubt at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalitji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We Indians, most of us, > > > > > > > are certainly 'Kritigya' and > > > > > > > display our kritagyta which is nothing > > > > > > > extraordinary but 'Normal 'Naitikta' > > > > > > > (Duty, Ethics and norms). This > > > > > > > krigayta is the reason for me not going to > > > > > > > meet Mother in a defiled manner. > > > > > > > Here defiled means not being at par of > > > > > > > my own paribhasha (definition)of being a > > > > > > > proper yaachaka or a good son. > > > > > > > I have my own scales of judgement for > > > > > > > a good astrologer, a good sadhaka, a good > > > > > > > man, a good friend etc.and here I fall > > > > > > > short from own made levels which may be > > > > > > > around 200 years old. therefore meet > > > > > > > I must, but not yet ready. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am grateful to all the Gods and Goddesses, > > > > > > > and Lord Shri Krishna is fully looking after > > > > > > > me and giving me more than what I am worth. > > > > > > > I do not see the Lord and Ma as different. > > > > > > > They are just 2 Forms of the Whole or One. > > > > > > > One is the female manifestation. > > > > > > > A simple reading of the Durga Chalisa would > > > > > > > suffice to know that all is one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes I may have less knowledge of > > > > > > > the sadhana of Ma Tara, and her > > > > > > > devotees, is true. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your knowledge about Tara Maa's sadhan and about her > > > devotees > > > > > are > > > > > > > > very limited, See, I have never been in any of the > tantra > > > > > > schools, > > > > > > > > but whenever it was required, mother sent so many > tantra > > > > > siddhas > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once in Bhopal, Maa Tara sent her great sadhaka to me, > > you > > > > are > > > > > > > > totally wrong in ur perception of vama marga/dakshhina > > > maarga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mother does ( " Ahetuki Kripa " ), I mean the blessings > that > > u > > > > > never > > > > > > > > desired. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We indians are forgetting being grateful - > " Kritagyata " . > > > Pls. > > > > > > show > > > > > > > > tha same sothat we youngsters can learn from u. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , > > > > > > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri RamaNarayananji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am curious and wish to know more > > > > > > > > > about you. > > > > > > > > > Your age, and experience in astrology > > > > > > > > > and other professional areas, if you wish > > > > > > > > > to share. > > > > > > > > > I am curious because of 2 aspects. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Normally invoking Ma Tara is not > > > > > > > > > prescribed wantonly. Though i find > > > > > > > > > a SJC disciple doing this often, for which > > > > > > > > > I have in an freindly way, obstructed to > > > > > > > > > his such sugeestions to all and sundry > > > > > > > > > natives coming to him with queries. > > > > > > > > > This invocation is done mostly by the > > > > > > > > > left handed panth, Aghoris. Normal > > > > > > > > > householders would dare not do it. > > > > > > > > > Because she is Smashan Tara and one > > > > > > > > > of the MahaVidyas, who cannot be > > > > > > > > > approached by normal persons of lust, > > > > > > > > > Kama,Krodha and Lobha, which at least I > > > > > > > > > possess in few measures, if not in much. > > > > > > > > > These are dangerous ways to tread upon, > > > > > > > > > and one may have to part with his Life, > > > > > > > > > with a single wrong mistake or even a > > > > > > > > > wrong thought entering his mind during > > > > > > > > > the invocations. Though I am very much > > > > > > > > > aligned to the astral sphere, > > > > > > > > > but I would dare not do this > > > > > > > > > approaching before I cleanse myself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Sainath if You mean SaiBaba, > > > > > > > > > is not a God, but a messenger of > > > > > > > > > God, and a human. I do worship of him > > > > > > > > > daily, but if a detailed Pooja has to > > > > > > > > > be done, I would prefer to do of his > > > > > > > > > Lord Dattatreyaji. > > > > > > > > > Would not be Shri Hanumanji more > > > > > > > > > pleased if I do recitation of > > > > > > > > > Shri Ram Jaya Rama Jay Jaya Ram, > > > > > > > > > and is He not present wherever a > > > > > > > > > auspicious recital of > > > > > > > > > Ramayana is done ? In same way > > > > > > > > > instead of doiing too much > > > > > > > > > worship of any human being who > > > > > > > > > has perished, though > > > > > > > > > he may be a saint, is secondarily > > > > > > > > > preferable to me, primarily I would > > > > > > > > > prefer to live Life as per His teachings, > > > > > > > > > rather than pray to His photo.I > > > > > > > > > would prefer praying to the Avatars or > > > > > > > > > the MahaVishnu Himself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As regards Jyotisha, my Order of > > > > > > > > > devotion and belief is thus, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Belief in ones own Karma,his actions. > > > > > > > > > 2) Belief in God. > > > > > > > > > 3) Belief in Jyotisha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So i give preference to Jyotisha on the > > > > > > > > > last level of this 3 Tier. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As regards to remedial measures, I have a faith > > > > > > > > > that if a person is good, behaves good'with all, > > > > > > > > > performs his duties well,lives life as per the > > > > > > > > > injunctions laid by God, the God would Himself > > > > > > > > > help the native to overcome his purva paap, > > > > > > > > > by bringing remedies in His Life, > > > > > > > > > from time to time, so that His Bhakta is > > > > > > > > > absolved of thepast sins, and made > > > > > > > > > to reach nearer to Himself, ie. towards Godhead. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But the above by no means, should suggest, > > > > > > > > > that I do not believe in doing Remedial > > > > > > > > > 'measures, Japa, Mantras, worship etcetra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This would depend from a person to person, > > > > > > > > > on availibility of time, the inclinations > > > > > > > > > and the family atmosphere he is living in, > > > > > > > > > which must also be favourable to make him > > > > > > > > > do the above. The outward influences > > > > > > > > > and sorroundings do play a major role > > > > > > > > > in ones spiritual upliftment, and not just > > > > > > > > > depend on a individual alone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best regards, > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri RamNarayananji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please accept my heartfelt thanks for analysing > > > > > > > > > > my chart the way you did, which was unique, and > > > > > > > > > > your time and efforts given to studying the other > > > > > > > > > > divisional charts. You are the only one person > > > > > > > > > > who has been able to spiritually > > > > > > > > > > diaognise my chart uptil now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though I am interested in overcoming the spiritual > > > > > > > > > > astral entities and this plane, with my Sadhana, > > > > > > > > > > and keeping in touch directly with the astral > sphere, > > > > > > > > > > yet I worship only the Mahamantras and the Lord > Ram, > > > > > > > > > > Krishna and Shiva.Primarily, the form of Vishnu > > > > > > > > > > (Narayana with Discus ,Lotus, Conch and gada), > > > > > > > > > > is the form of Narayana I adore and worship. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma Tara would be difficult for me to handle, > > > > > > > > > > and invoke, not yet ready for her > > > > > > > > > > worship - ritually, at least not presently, > > > > > > > > > > few years hence, I would not know. > > > > > > > > > > Then how to go about it when I am not ready ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another point - When would I meet this sadhu > > > > > > > > > > who would change my name ? My name has already been > > > > > > > > > > changed from Krishna to Bhaskar, in Jyotish > > > > > > > > > > profession, but this change has been brought > > > > > > > > > > about by myself, and not through any Sadhu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sainatha and Lord Dattatreya I am already > > > > > > > > > > worshipping,though give major time only to > > > > > > > > > > Lord Krishna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Food packets etc. are going regularly from me, > > > > > > > > > > more than 30-40% of my income per month is spent > > > > > > > > > > regularly on such activities ,since few years, > > > > > > > > > > though this may be unrelaistic percentage to you, > > > > > > > > > > but this is so due to the Lords grace. I always > > > > > > > > > > believe whatever is mines is given from HIm to > > > > > > > > > > share with those lower than me,in income brackets. > > > > > > > > > > Though I face tough opposition from Home, > > > > > > > > > > for squandering larger share my income in this > > > > > > > > > > manner, but never allow anyone to rule me, in > > > > > > > > > > these decesions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you would answer my queries put up, > > > > > > > > > > which may be simple for you, > > > > > > > > > > but lot of meaning for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Last Query - Do You see meacquiring kaivalya > > > > > > > > > > in this Birth itself, if continous > > > > > > > > > > efforts are made for self development on > > > > > > > > > > spiritual angels by myself ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kind regards, > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > > > > > > > > > <sree88ganesha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > > > > > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Bhaskar ji & Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive responses. i > shall > > > make > > > > > an > > > > > > > > > attempt > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soorya is also called as Bhaskar. Every graha > has a > > > > > Soorya > > > > > > > > Roopa > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > which Ketu's Soorya Roopa is called as Bhaskara. > > > This > > > > > name > > > > > > > > > > suggests that > > > > > > > > > > > we look into the role of Ketu in the chart of > Shri > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > > > happy > > > > > > > > > > > to note the presence of Ketu in 12th to > Karakamsa > > > > (Venus > > > > > is > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > Atmakaraka in the chart). This gives a hint that > > the > > > > > bija > > > > > > > > > > necessary to > > > > > > > > > > > cause liberation/freedom from the clutches of > > grahas > > > > has > > > > > > > > already > > > > > > > > > > been > > > > > > > > > > > sown. Is the 'vriksha' growing? Is there a > problem > > > to > > > > > the > > > > > > > > growth > > > > > > > > > > of this > > > > > > > > > > > Vriksha? Let us have a closer look at Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rasi chart: - Ketu is placed in 7th in kumbha > with > > > > > Mantra > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > Maatri > > > > > > > > > > > paadas, influenced by Mars(rahu's influence goes > > > > without > > > > > > > > saying) > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna. The powerful influence of Mars(anger and > > > > > > frustration) > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu(shock and deception) induces Ketu (who > > > represents > > > > > > > > > a 'Sadhu') > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > curse. This gives a hint about the generation > of > > > Sarpa > > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > development of keen interest in unraveling the > > > > mysteries > > > > > > > > > > surrounding > > > > > > > > > > > spirits and smashan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Navamsa chart: - Ketu is placed in Vrischika and > is > > > > > subject > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > influence of Sani, Rahu & Mars. All the four are > > > placed > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > kendras > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > Navamsa lagna. This reinforces the intensity of > the > > > > > yogas > > > > > > > > > > mentioned in > > > > > > > > > > > rasi chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shastiyamsa chart: - Ketu is placed in Meena and > is > > > > > again > > > > > > > > > subject > > > > > > > > > > to the > > > > > > > > > > > influence of Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From all this we can infer that the native is > > > subject > > > > to > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > curse > > > > > > > > > > of a > > > > > > > > > > > Sanyasin/Sadhu. This curse needs to be addressed > > and > > > > > > removed > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > facilitate the blessings of Ishta devatha in the > > > form > > > > of > > > > > > > Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once this curse is removed the blessings of > Ishta > > > > > devatha > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > flow. > > > > > > > > > > > How do we understand the curse is removed? The > very > > > > same > > > > > > > Sadhu > > > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > bless with a new name!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 8th lord from Karakamsha is Moon. He is > found > > > > > placed > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > 7th > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > karakamsha indicating the Rna to the soulmate. > This > > > > Moon > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > playing the > > > > > > > > > > > role of Putrakaraka and is also the significator > of > > > > > > > > > > shisyas/followers > > > > > > > > > > > and all the clients(Moon rules Vikrama pada). > Moon > > > is > > > > > the > > > > > > > Kaala > > > > > > > > > > Lord in > > > > > > > > > > > the diagram. This means the vision about these > > > > > > > significations > > > > > > > > > > needs to > > > > > > > > > > > be addressed. Since Moon is the Kaala lord > remedies > > > are > > > > > to > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > done > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > have a directional change. This has to be > followed > > > by > > > > > > > offering > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Hora > > > > > > > > > > > of Moon to the Lord by Chanting " OM NAMO > > > NAARAYANAYA " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 4th Lord from the Karakamsha is Guru(no > planet > > > > > tenants > > > > > > > > Meena > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > navamsa). MA TARA when invoked would change the > > > gati. > > > > > > Before > > > > > > > > > > embarking > > > > > > > > > > > on this it is to be borne that the Guru is seen > > > cursing > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > shastyamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > This Brahamana saapa needs to be removed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is the Atmakaraka and is placed in Mesha > (in > > > > > Kroora > > > > > > > > > > shastyamsa) in > > > > > > > > > > > 9th in rasi chart. This Venus is being > influenced > > by > > > > > Sani > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > Rahu > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > shastyamsa in chart indicating the reasons of > this > > > > birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To remove the Sadhu saapa it is suggested that > > > > > > > > > > > 1.Chanting " OM NAMO BHAGAVATE SAINAATHAYA " - 108 > > > times > > > > > in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > morning > > > > > > > > > > > and evening for a period of 40 days. > > > > > > > > > > > 2.Read " SAI SATCHARITA " during this period. > > > > > > > > > > > 3.After the 40th day offer prayers at Shirdi on > a > > > > > Tuesday > > > > > > > > > lighting > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > lamp using til tel. Offer " Chaamara " ( hand fan) > to > > > > Shri > > > > > > > > > SAINAATHA. > > > > > > > > > > > Perform Rudraabhisheka to the Paada. > > > > > > > > > > > 4.Offer food packets/feed the poor. > > > > > > > > > > > 5.Pray fervently to remove the curse and request > > > > > SAINATHA > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > forgive for > > > > > > > > > > > past mistakes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After this offer your Sukra Hora to GANAPATI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i am not going into other remedial measures as > > these > > > > may > > > > > be > > > > > > > > known > > > > > > > > > > > already. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th house is called as Nirmala kshetra because > it > > > > > behaves > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > mirror > > > > > > > > > > > reflecting the karmic load of the jivaas. > > Reflection > > > is > > > > > > > fruits > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > darshana which is the 10th house. 11th from the > > 10th > > > > > house > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > fruit. > > > > > > > > > > > In this sense 8th is considered as mirror. If > given > > > > > > > importance > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > mirror is bound to reflect. Once reflected we > > > > understand > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > urgency to > > > > > > > > > > > shed off the load. In this way it helps remove > the > > > > > > > > > mala/impurities > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > the past. This is a powerful Rudra karma. > > > Accumulation > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > unwanted > > > > > > > > > > > material is considered unnatural and is > considered > > > > > > > cancerous. > > > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > > > Jiva > > > > > > > > > > > has to facilitate the transformation of the > > unwanted > > > > > > > resources > > > > > > > > > > kept in > > > > > > > > > > > possession out of ignorance. This is also Rudra > > > > > Aaradana. > > > > > > > How > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > use > > > > > > > > > > > this principle? See the 8th placed planet(if no > > > planet > > > > > > > choose > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Lord) > > > > > > > > > > > from the karakaamsha and offer the Hora to the > Lord > > > by > > > > > way > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > chanting > > > > > > > > > > > Savitur Gayathri or " OM NAMO NAARAAYANAYA " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As usual i am sorry for the length of the mail. > If > > i > > > > had > > > > > > > > exceeded > > > > > > > > > > > somewhere in explaining certain issues i am > sorry > > > for > > > > > the > > > > > > > same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > > > > > > > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri RamNarayananaji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You seem to be informed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Your technical language is a little > difficult > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uinderstand. If You would be kind enough to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > explain what you have explained with > illustrations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of my Chart, i would consider myself fortunate > > and > > > > > > blessed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Birth details- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 28th June 1961. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10.14am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eluru ( near Vijaywada) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 16.45N 81.09E > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Leo Lagna (Vargottama). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope you would be kind enough to explain > through > > > my > > > > > > > example > > > > > > > > > Birth > > > > > > > > > > > Chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > > > > > > > > > > > sree88ganesha@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > > > > > > > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive your response > > > which > > > > > is > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > usual > > > > > > > > > > full > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > warmth. i understand that much discussions > have > > > > been > > > > > > > done > > > > > > > > > > during > > > > > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > > > > > days. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i shall move on to Chandra soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As regards 4th the same is called as the > > kshetra > > > > > > > > > of 'shuddhi', > > > > > > > > > > while > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th > > > > > > > > > > > > > is called the 'nirmala kshetra' and 12th is > > > called > > > > > > > > > > as 'yoganidra > > > > > > > > > > > > > kshetra'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The word moksha hints at liberating > the 'jiva' > > > from > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > clutches of > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > graha. The dharmaamsa chart will play a > > powerful > > > > > role > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > regard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > This means locate the atmakaraka graha in > the > > > > > navamsa > > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > See the > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12th from it. This is called > > > as 'jivanmukthaamsa'. > > > > > The > > > > > > > > > planet > > > > > > > > > > placed > > > > > > > > > > > > > there or the Lord would give you the hint > about > > > > > > > the 'Ishta > > > > > > > > > > devatha' > > > > > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > > > > when turned to would do the needful. > The " Ishta > > > > > > Devatha " > > > > > > > > > > should be > > > > > > > > > > > > > considered as the 'bhokthri' while the > > > atmakaraka > > > > > > should > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > considered > > > > > > > > > > > > > as the 'bhogya'. The hora of the atmakaraka > is > > > to > > > > be > > > > > > > > offered > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > Ishta > > > > > > > > > > > > > devatha on a daily basis by chanting > > the 'nama' . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 4th from Karaakamsa will indicate > > > the 'gati'. > > > > > The > > > > > > > 4th > > > > > > > > > > placed > > > > > > > > > > > > planet > > > > > > > > > > > > > will give you hint about that devatha who > would > > > > > cause > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > > changes > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > gathi. This devatha would act as MA and > would > > be > > > > > doing > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > job > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > cleansing. Dasa Maha Vidya function begins > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Gatistvam.............Bhavani " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 8th stands for the 'Rna' that needs to > be > > > > > disposed > > > > > > > off. > > > > > > > > > > See the > > > > > > > > > > > > > planet in the 8th from Atmakaraka or see the > > > lord > > > > of > > > > > > 8th > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > karakamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Offer that Hora of that planet to the Lord > > > chanting > > > > > > > Savitur > > > > > > > > > > Gayathri > > > > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > > " OM NAMO NARAYANAYA " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brahma Samhita speaks about Goloka which is > > > beyond > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > sphere > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > grahas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > May the Lord bless us all this Supreme Bliss > of > > > HIS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i shall stop now and continue later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > > > > > > > > > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > > > > > > > > > mishra.lalit@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx for posting such a nice > enlightenning > > > post > > > > > to > > > > > > > > group, > > > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > enough food for thoughts, I took time to > > reply > > > to > > > > > u > > > > > > as > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > wanted to > > > > > > > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if our members are really trying to update > > > their > > > > > > > existing > > > > > > > > > > > knowledge > > > > > > > > > > > > > > base, i m not very appreciative of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now as enough time has been spent and > > > > > Mahashivaratri > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > over, > > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > day, the way Lord Shiva managed a > > > Rudrabhisheka > > > > > for > > > > > > me > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > overwhelmed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me, I had even not a single Vilva Patra > and I > > > was > > > > > > > given > > > > > > > > > > everything > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ready, just in couple of seconds, This > also > > > gives > > > > > me > > > > > > > > > enough > > > > > > > > > > self > > > > > > > > > > > > > > confidence that I m right in my approach, > > > several > > > > > > > times i > > > > > > > > > m > > > > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to write openly about spiritual > experiences, > > > > Sorry > > > > > I > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > it, > > > > > > > > > > coz, > > > > > > > > > > > > Good > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has to be known to everyone, to spread > > > > everywhere, > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > ego ? > > > > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > > > > > ego > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there, when we know all is God's maya and > all > > > the > > > > > > > > > recepients > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > > > > > souls like me, as near to God as me is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, I think time has come back to learn > > about > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > exaltations > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > u, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. be kind to me and to group and tell > us > > > from > > > > > ur > > > > > > > > > treasure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <sree88ganesha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to > > receive > > > > > your > > > > > > > mail. > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > > > > happy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > note > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > deep interest in the > subject. > > > i > > > > am > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > back > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > schedule. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shall > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be away for a few more > days - > > > > Siva > > > > > > > Ratri > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > round > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > corner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i feel that every pravesha > > has > > > a > > > > > > > definite > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > significance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mean that i am trying to > > > belittle > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > thithi > > > > > > > > > > > > pravesha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > theory. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shall > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go into this later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i just came across our > > > respected > > > > > > > > > > Chandrasekharji's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > observation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > connection with exaltation > > and > > > > > > > > > debilitation > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > grahas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through others > observation. i > > > am > > > > > > sorry > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me take up one by one. > > You > > > > can > > > > > > > stop > > > > > > > > me > > > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you/the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > group > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > feels > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is boring. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically & > spiritually > > > > yours, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir P.S. RamNarain > Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar, Hope u r fine > > > there > > > > > and > > > > > > > > doing > > > > > > > > > > well, > > > > > > > > > > > > From > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > side, We > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are expecting u to > complete > > > ur > > > > > > > > > interesting > > > > > > > > > > > article > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > exaltation in which u > > > indicated > > > > > > > Kurma > > > > > > > > > > Avtaar's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > significations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > undestanding the > exaltation > > > > > > theories. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. find some time for > our > > > > > sake, I > > > > > > > w'd > > > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > > > request > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > throw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > light on significations > of > > > > Tithi > > > > > > > > Pravesha > > > > > > > > > > > charts, > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sr. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > member > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > group has requested for > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Dear Bhaskar Ji, You post reflects what happens when Jupitor gets debilitation in one's chart. The man lacks the insight, thoughts get entwined. Even 5 - 7 years looks shorter for u. Instead of gaining confidence and spending one single day, u r showing ur irritation and not only happily justifying but ready to wait for more 5/7 yrs. Even ur confusion is not known to u, u required only 1 day to come out of ur this birth's enigma. I looked at the God, while hiting ur slept awareness but ... Oh my God, but u couldn't get self confidence rather wasted all ur energy in refuting and writing a frivolous mail. This " one day " comes in ur life or not, I m not sure, Why u people are so blocked ? Just take one step and see what the scene is.. that u w'd never do ... ? Bye and Take Care ! ~Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > This is not a 5 minutes noodle > that one can make and eat. > And to listen to naad is not > a childs play, as it is made out > to be. > I am already into such type of > Yoga but not elaborating unless > I find a person upyukta enough to > share. So I let the fools think > that I am a fool, and they > are smart. > > Which is the reason I said > 5-7 years.Not interested in showing > my knowledge unnecessarily to just > anybody.Spirituality is not talking > and showing wiseness about ownself > and talking that the other person > is coward.Spiritual people > do not talk adn behave > the way you are doing. > > Nobody is badly trapped here but you. > You are badly trapped in pride of > miniscule knowledge, > and derogate the others. > Spirituality is to be spiritual > and > not to show that I am spiritual. > Spirituality is never to underestimate the > opposite person. > > The Yoga I do, > here a Yogi has just to touch a book > to know what is the content inside it > without having to read the book. > > The Yoga I do one can leave his body > and visit any place and come back within > few minutes. > > The Yoga I do, one can meet and talk nto > his ancestors. > > The Yoga I do one gets direct instructions > from the Lord. > I have many more such matters to let > you know. > > But pl wait. > I am not here to flaunter my knowledge of > God, and spirituality, > but at least not make the other person small > with my littke knowledge > portrayed as big. > > Lions dont cry. > Even if they have to, they would do it alone. > > I am disappointed very much with the tones > in your last few mails.They smack of superiority > ove ones comrades junior or senior. > And I cannot remain under such atmosphere > to be reproached again and again. > > God Bless You. > > Bhaskar. > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > That coz u are unable to watch a movie show coz u dont have > Rs.150/- > > in ur account, should u cry there is no theater or no movie is > being > > shown. > > > > What a great coardice thoughts u r having dear lion, why u w'd > take 5 > > yrs, do it tomorrow, why u dont have confidence, do u think God or > Me > > is ur enemy ? > > > > Do we ask any money from u ??? See, how badly u r trapped within > ur > > thoughts... > > > > Go and sit tomorrow, have courage , you will get it. > > > > Ok.. > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Bhai Lalitji, > > > > > > Pranam aapko. > > > Namaskaar aapko. > > > > > > Mere paas toh, > > > na itni Bhakti hai, > > > na itni Shakti hai, > > > aur na Panditya hai. > > > > > > Main jis din naad sun loonga > > > aapka description confirm kar doonga. > > > parantu lagta nahin ki mujhe 5-7 > > > saal se kam lagenge meri aaj ki sthiti > > > dekhte hue. Baaki Bhagwaan ki kripa kab > > > baras jaaye so toh Prabhu hi jaane. > > > > > > Aapko Pranaam isliye kiya, kyonki aap Brahmin > > > hai. Mujhe aapki umar se koi farak > > > nahin padta. Aaapki buddhi ki thah kahan tak hai > > > use mujhe koi sarokaar nahin, balki jmere > > > liye to chota bachha agar Brahman (Mishra) ho > > > toh bhi poojniyah hai. > > > > > > Aur aap toh prakhand pandit lagte ho mujhe. > > > > > > kind regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > Namaskaar, After we hear the Anahata's Naad, We reach in the > > > > innermost circle but a sense of duality remains, We are > hearing a > > > > voice, that does mean, source of the voice is different than > us. > > > > > > > > Next Step is to realize this Anahat's naad is my own naada, I > m > > > the > > > > Shiva, Shivoaham ... Vibhum Vyapakam !! > > > > > > > > We need mother's pull to get to this plane, " Ishwar > PraniDhaan " . > > > > > > > > It's when u feel the culmination of love, This is most well > known > > > > spiritual personalities miss, Now, they bend over dumping the > > > world > > > > with hundreds of the books . > > > > > > > > It has been quite easy for me, even i didnt try, Mother > herself > > > > caused it to happen. She does it this way for everybody, who > is > > > not > > > > into Panditya rather have bhakti. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear lalitji, > > > > > > > > > > A small correction, if You allow me. > > > > > > > > > > A person who can develop himself spiritually > > > > > to a level where he can hear the anahata naad, > > > > > or the sound of omnipresent omniscient, > > > > > omnipotent Om, for this person, the step > > > > > towards self realization gets over. > > > > > He needs nothing to know more, for > > > > > through this naad his 3rd eye ,the > > > > > Agya chakra is fully awakened and he has > > > > > the answers to all he is seeking, > > > > > has seeked, or would be seeking. > > > > > > > > > > This is not easy to achieve, > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar, When for sometime (depends case to case) we > > > > > remain 'Normal > > > > > > Naitika' our " JyotishMati " awakens, We need not make any > > > > > definition, > > > > > > rather we need to understand the definition inherent to > the > > > > > universe, > > > > > > > > > > > > We need to hear the Anahat's naad, this naad is refreshing > > > like > > > > > > taking a good bath, then the steps towards self > realization > > > > begins. > > > > > > > > > > > > It's all practical and a must to achieve, quite > achievable, > > > there > > > > > is > > > > > > no doubt at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalitji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We Indians, most of us, > > > > > > > are certainly 'Kritigya' and > > > > > > > display our kritagyta which is nothing > > > > > > > extraordinary but 'Normal 'Naitikta' > > > > > > > (Duty, Ethics and norms). This > > > > > > > krigayta is the reason for me not going to > > > > > > > meet Mother in a defiled manner. > > > > > > > Here defiled means not being at par of > > > > > > > my own paribhasha (definition)of being a > > > > > > > proper yaachaka or a good son. > > > > > > > I have my own scales of judgement for > > > > > > > a good astrologer, a good sadhaka, a good > > > > > > > man, a good friend etc.and here I fall > > > > > > > short from own made levels which may be > > > > > > > around 200 years old. therefore meet > > > > > > > I must, but not yet ready. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am grateful to all the Gods and Goddesses, > > > > > > > and Lord Shri Krishna is fully looking after > > > > > > > me and giving me more than what I am worth. > > > > > > > I do not see the Lord and Ma as different. > > > > > > > They are just 2 Forms of the Whole or One. > > > > > > > One is the female manifestation. > > > > > > > A simple reading of the Durga Chalisa would > > > > > > > suffice to know that all is one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes I may have less knowledge of > > > > > > > the sadhana of Ma Tara, and her > > > > > > > devotees, is true. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your knowledge about Tara Maa's sadhan and about her > > > devotees > > > > > are > > > > > > > > very limited, See, I have never been in any of the > tantra > > > > > > schools, > > > > > > > > but whenever it was required, mother sent so many > tantra > > > > > siddhas > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once in Bhopal, Maa Tara sent her great sadhaka to me, > > you > > > > are > > > > > > > > totally wrong in ur perception of vama marga/dakshhina > > > maarga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mother does ( " Ahetuki Kripa " ), I mean the blessings > that > > u > > > > > never > > > > > > > > desired. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We indians are forgetting being grateful - > " Kritagyata " . > > > Pls. > > > > > > show > > > > > > > > tha same sothat we youngsters can learn from u. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , > > > > > > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri RamaNarayananji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am curious and wish to know more > > > > > > > > > about you. > > > > > > > > > Your age, and experience in astrology > > > > > > > > > and other professional areas, if you wish > > > > > > > > > to share. > > > > > > > > > I am curious because of 2 aspects. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Normally invoking Ma Tara is not > > > > > > > > > prescribed wantonly. Though i find > > > > > > > > > a SJC disciple doing this often, for which > > > > > > > > > I have in an freindly way, obstructed to > > > > > > > > > his such sugeestions to all and sundry > > > > > > > > > natives coming to him with queries. > > > > > > > > > This invocation is done mostly by the > > > > > > > > > left handed panth, Aghoris. Normal > > > > > > > > > householders would dare not do it. > > > > > > > > > Because she is Smashan Tara and one > > > > > > > > > of the MahaVidyas, who cannot be > > > > > > > > > approached by normal persons of lust, > > > > > > > > > Kama,Krodha and Lobha, which at least I > > > > > > > > > possess in few measures, if not in much. > > > > > > > > > These are dangerous ways to tread upon, > > > > > > > > > and one may have to part with his Life, > > > > > > > > > with a single wrong mistake or even a > > > > > > > > > wrong thought entering his mind during > > > > > > > > > the invocations. Though I am very much > > > > > > > > > aligned to the astral sphere, > > > > > > > > > but I would dare not do this > > > > > > > > > approaching before I cleanse myself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Sainath if You mean SaiBaba, > > > > > > > > > is not a God, but a messenger of > > > > > > > > > God, and a human. I do worship of him > > > > > > > > > daily, but if a detailed Pooja has to > > > > > > > > > be done, I would prefer to do of his > > > > > > > > > Lord Dattatreyaji. > > > > > > > > > Would not be Shri Hanumanji more > > > > > > > > > pleased if I do recitation of > > > > > > > > > Shri Ram Jaya Rama Jay Jaya Ram, > > > > > > > > > and is He not present wherever a > > > > > > > > > auspicious recital of > > > > > > > > > Ramayana is done ? In same way > > > > > > > > > instead of doiing too much > > > > > > > > > worship of any human being who > > > > > > > > > has perished, though > > > > > > > > > he may be a saint, is secondarily > > > > > > > > > preferable to me, primarily I would > > > > > > > > > prefer to live Life as per His teachings, > > > > > > > > > rather than pray to His photo.I > > > > > > > > > would prefer praying to the Avatars or > > > > > > > > > the MahaVishnu Himself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As regards Jyotisha, my Order of > > > > > > > > > devotion and belief is thus, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Belief in ones own Karma,his actions. > > > > > > > > > 2) Belief in God. > > > > > > > > > 3) Belief in Jyotisha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So i give preference to Jyotisha on the > > > > > > > > > last level of this 3 Tier. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As regards to remedial measures, I have a faith > > > > > > > > > that if a person is good, behaves good'with all, > > > > > > > > > performs his duties well,lives life as per the > > > > > > > > > injunctions laid by God, the God would Himself > > > > > > > > > help the native to overcome his purva paap, > > > > > > > > > by bringing remedies in His Life, > > > > > > > > > from time to time, so that His Bhakta is > > > > > > > > > absolved of thepast sins, and made > > > > > > > > > to reach nearer to Himself, ie. towards Godhead. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But the above by no means, should suggest, > > > > > > > > > that I do not believe in doing Remedial > > > > > > > > > 'measures, Japa, Mantras, worship etcetra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This would depend from a person to person, > > > > > > > > > on availibility of time, the inclinations > > > > > > > > > and the family atmosphere he is living in, > > > > > > > > > which must also be favourable to make him > > > > > > > > > do the above. The outward influences > > > > > > > > > and sorroundings do play a major role > > > > > > > > > in ones spiritual upliftment, and not just > > > > > > > > > depend on a individual alone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best regards, > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri RamNarayananji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please accept my heartfelt thanks for analysing > > > > > > > > > > my chart the way you did, which was unique, and > > > > > > > > > > your time and efforts given to studying the other > > > > > > > > > > divisional charts. You are the only one person > > > > > > > > > > who has been able to spiritually > > > > > > > > > > diaognise my chart uptil now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though I am interested in overcoming the spiritual > > > > > > > > > > astral entities and this plane, with my Sadhana, > > > > > > > > > > and keeping in touch directly with the astral > sphere, > > > > > > > > > > yet I worship only the Mahamantras and the Lord > Ram, > > > > > > > > > > Krishna and Shiva.Primarily, the form of Vishnu > > > > > > > > > > (Narayana with Discus ,Lotus, Conch and gada), > > > > > > > > > > is the form of Narayana I adore and worship. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma Tara would be difficult for me to handle, > > > > > > > > > > and invoke, not yet ready for her > > > > > > > > > > worship - ritually, at least not presently, > > > > > > > > > > few years hence, I would not know. > > > > > > > > > > Then how to go about it when I am not ready ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another point - When would I meet this sadhu > > > > > > > > > > who would change my name ? My name has already been > > > > > > > > > > changed from Krishna to Bhaskar, in Jyotish > > > > > > > > > > profession, but this change has been brought > > > > > > > > > > about by myself, and not through any Sadhu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sainatha and Lord Dattatreya I am already > > > > > > > > > > worshipping,though give major time only to > > > > > > > > > > Lord Krishna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Food packets etc. are going regularly from me, > > > > > > > > > > more than 30-40% of my income per month is spent > > > > > > > > > > regularly on such activities ,since few years, > > > > > > > > > > though this may be unrelaistic percentage to you, > > > > > > > > > > but this is so due to the Lords grace. I always > > > > > > > > > > believe whatever is mines is given from HIm to > > > > > > > > > > share with those lower than me,in income brackets. > > > > > > > > > > Though I face tough opposition from Home, > > > > > > > > > > for squandering larger share my income in this > > > > > > > > > > manner, but never allow anyone to rule me, in > > > > > > > > > > these decesions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you would answer my queries put up, > > > > > > > > > > which may be simple for you, > > > > > > > > > > but lot of meaning for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Last Query - Do You see meacquiring kaivalya > > > > > > > > > > in this Birth itself, if continous > > > > > > > > > > efforts are made for self development on > > > > > > > > > > spiritual angels by myself ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kind regards, > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > > > > > > > > > <sree88ganesha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > > > > > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Bhaskar ji & Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive responses. i > shall > > > make > > > > > an > > > > > > > > > attempt > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soorya is also called as Bhaskar. Every graha > has a > > > > > Soorya > > > > > > > > Roopa > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > which Ketu's Soorya Roopa is called as Bhaskara. > > > This > > > > > name > > > > > > > > > > suggests that > > > > > > > > > > > we look into the role of Ketu in the chart of > Shri > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > > > happy > > > > > > > > > > > to note the presence of Ketu in 12th to > Karakamsa > > > > (Venus > > > > > is > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > Atmakaraka in the chart). This gives a hint that > > the > > > > > bija > > > > > > > > > > necessary to > > > > > > > > > > > cause liberation/freedom from the clutches of > > grahas > > > > has > > > > > > > > already > > > > > > > > > > been > > > > > > > > > > > sown. Is the 'vriksha' growing? Is there a > problem > > > to > > > > > the > > > > > > > > growth > > > > > > > > > > of this > > > > > > > > > > > Vriksha? Let us have a closer look at Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rasi chart: - Ketu is placed in 7th in kumbha > with > > > > > Mantra > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > Maatri > > > > > > > > > > > paadas, influenced by Mars(rahu's influence goes > > > > without > > > > > > > > saying) > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna. The powerful influence of Mars(anger and > > > > > > frustration) > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu(shock and deception) induces Ketu (who > > > represents > > > > > > > > > a 'Sadhu') > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > curse. This gives a hint about the generation > of > > > Sarpa > > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > development of keen interest in unraveling the > > > > mysteries > > > > > > > > > > surrounding > > > > > > > > > > > spirits and smashan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Navamsa chart: - Ketu is placed in Vrischika and > is > > > > > subject > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > influence of Sani, Rahu & Mars. All the four are > > > placed > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > kendras > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > Navamsa lagna. This reinforces the intensity of > the > > > > > yogas > > > > > > > > > > mentioned in > > > > > > > > > > > rasi chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shastiyamsa chart: - Ketu is placed in Meena and > is > > > > > again > > > > > > > > > subject > > > > > > > > > > to the > > > > > > > > > > > influence of Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From all this we can infer that the native is > > > subject > > > > to > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > curse > > > > > > > > > > of a > > > > > > > > > > > Sanyasin/Sadhu. This curse needs to be addressed > > and > > > > > > removed > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > facilitate the blessings of Ishta devatha in the > > > form > > > > of > > > > > > > Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once this curse is removed the blessings of > Ishta > > > > > devatha > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > flow. > > > > > > > > > > > How do we understand the curse is removed? The > very > > > > same > > > > > > > Sadhu > > > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > bless with a new name!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 8th lord from Karakamsha is Moon. He is > found > > > > > placed > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > 7th > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > karakamsha indicating the Rna to the soulmate. > This > > > > Moon > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > playing the > > > > > > > > > > > role of Putrakaraka and is also the significator > of > > > > > > > > > > shisyas/followers > > > > > > > > > > > and all the clients(Moon rules Vikrama pada). > Moon > > > is > > > > > the > > > > > > > Kaala > > > > > > > > > > Lord in > > > > > > > > > > > the diagram. This means the vision about these > > > > > > > significations > > > > > > > > > > needs to > > > > > > > > > > > be addressed. Since Moon is the Kaala lord > remedies > > > are > > > > > to > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > done > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > have a directional change. This has to be > followed > > > by > > > > > > > offering > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Hora > > > > > > > > > > > of Moon to the Lord by Chanting " OM NAMO > > > NAARAYANAYA " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 4th Lord from the Karakamsha is Guru(no > planet > > > > > tenants > > > > > > > > Meena > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > navamsa). MA TARA when invoked would change the > > > gati. > > > > > > Before > > > > > > > > > > embarking > > > > > > > > > > > on this it is to be borne that the Guru is seen > > > cursing > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > shastyamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > This Brahamana saapa needs to be removed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is the Atmakaraka and is placed in Mesha > (in > > > > > Kroora > > > > > > > > > > shastyamsa) in > > > > > > > > > > > 9th in rasi chart. This Venus is being > influenced > > by > > > > > Sani > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > Rahu > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > shastyamsa in chart indicating the reasons of > this > > > > birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To remove the Sadhu saapa it is suggested that > > > > > > > > > > > 1.Chanting " OM NAMO BHAGAVATE SAINAATHAYA " - 108 > > > times > > > > > in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > morning > > > > > > > > > > > and evening for a period of 40 days. > > > > > > > > > > > 2.Read " SAI SATCHARITA " during this period. > > > > > > > > > > > 3.After the 40th day offer prayers at Shirdi on > a > > > > > Tuesday > > > > > > > > > lighting > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > lamp using til tel. Offer " Chaamara " ( hand fan) > to > > > > Shri > > > > > > > > > SAINAATHA. > > > > > > > > > > > Perform Rudraabhisheka to the Paada. > > > > > > > > > > > 4.Offer food packets/feed the poor. > > > > > > > > > > > 5.Pray fervently to remove the curse and request > > > > > SAINATHA > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > forgive for > > > > > > > > > > > past mistakes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After this offer your Sukra Hora to GANAPATI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i am not going into other remedial measures as > > these > > > > may > > > > > be > > > > > > > > known > > > > > > > > > > > already. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th house is called as Nirmala kshetra because > it > > > > > behaves > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > mirror > > > > > > > > > > > reflecting the karmic load of the jivaas. > > Reflection > > > is > > > > > > > fruits > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > darshana which is the 10th house. 11th from the > > 10th > > > > > house > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > fruit. > > > > > > > > > > > In this sense 8th is considered as mirror. If > given > > > > > > > importance > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > mirror is bound to reflect. Once reflected we > > > > understand > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > urgency to > > > > > > > > > > > shed off the load. In this way it helps remove > the > > > > > > > > > mala/impurities > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > the past. This is a powerful Rudra karma. > > > Accumulation > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > unwanted > > > > > > > > > > > material is considered unnatural and is > considered > > > > > > > cancerous. > > > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > > > Jiva > > > > > > > > > > > has to facilitate the transformation of the > > unwanted > > > > > > > resources > > > > > > > > > > kept in > > > > > > > > > > > possession out of ignorance. This is also Rudra > > > > > Aaradana. > > > > > > > How > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > use > > > > > > > > > > > this principle? See the 8th placed planet(if no > > > planet > > > > > > > choose > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Lord) > > > > > > > > > > > from the karakaamsha and offer the Hora to the > Lord > > > by > > > > > way > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > chanting > > > > > > > > > > > Savitur Gayathri or " OM NAMO NAARAAYANAYA " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As usual i am sorry for the length of the mail. > If > > i > > > > had > > > > > > > > exceeded > > > > > > > > > > > somewhere in explaining certain issues i am > sorry > > > for > > > > > the > > > > > > > same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > > > > > > > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri RamNarayananaji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You seem to be informed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Your technical language is a little > difficult > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uinderstand. If You would be kind enough to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > explain what you have explained with > illustrations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of my Chart, i would consider myself fortunate > > and > > > > > > blessed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Birth details- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 28th June 1961. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10.14am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eluru ( near Vijaywada) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 16.45N 81.09E > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Leo Lagna (Vargottama). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope you would be kind enough to explain > through > > > my > > > > > > > example > > > > > > > > > Birth > > > > > > > > > > > Chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > > > > > > > > > > > sree88ganesha@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > > > > > > > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to receive your response > > > which > > > > > is > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > usual > > > > > > > > > > full > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > warmth. i understand that much discussions > have > > > > been > > > > > > > done > > > > > > > > > > during > > > > > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > > > > > days. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i shall move on to Chandra soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As regards 4th the same is called as the > > kshetra > > > > > > > > > of 'shuddhi', > > > > > > > > > > while > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th > > > > > > > > > > > > > is called the 'nirmala kshetra' and 12th is > > > called > > > > > > > > > > as 'yoganidra > > > > > > > > > > > > > kshetra'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The word moksha hints at liberating > the 'jiva' > > > from > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > clutches of > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > graha. The dharmaamsa chart will play a > > powerful > > > > > role > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > regard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > This means locate the atmakaraka graha in > the > > > > > navamsa > > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > See the > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12th from it. This is called > > > as 'jivanmukthaamsa'. > > > > > The > > > > > > > > > planet > > > > > > > > > > placed > > > > > > > > > > > > > there or the Lord would give you the hint > about > > > > > > > the 'Ishta > > > > > > > > > > devatha' > > > > > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > > > > when turned to would do the needful. > The " Ishta > > > > > > Devatha " > > > > > > > > > > should be > > > > > > > > > > > > > considered as the 'bhokthri' while the > > > atmakaraka > > > > > > should > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > considered > > > > > > > > > > > > > as the 'bhogya'. The hora of the atmakaraka > is > > > to > > > > be > > > > > > > > offered > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > Ishta > > > > > > > > > > > > > devatha on a daily basis by chanting > > the 'nama' . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 4th from Karaakamsa will indicate > > > the 'gati'. > > > > > The > > > > > > > 4th > > > > > > > > > > placed > > > > > > > > > > > > planet > > > > > > > > > > > > > will give you hint about that devatha who > would > > > > > cause > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > > changes > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > gathi. This devatha would act as MA and > would > > be > > > > > doing > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > job > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > cleansing. Dasa Maha Vidya function begins > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Gatistvam.............Bhavani " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 8th stands for the 'Rna' that needs to > be > > > > > disposed > > > > > > > off. > > > > > > > > > > See the > > > > > > > > > > > > > planet in the 8th from Atmakaraka or see the > > > lord > > > > of > > > > > > 8th > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > karakamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Offer that Hora of that planet to the Lord > > > chanting > > > > > > > Savitur > > > > > > > > > > Gayathri > > > > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > > " OM NAMO NARAYANAYA " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brahma Samhita speaks about Goloka which is > > > beyond > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > sphere > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > grahas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > May the Lord bless us all this Supreme Bliss > of > > > HIS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i shall stop now and continue later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > > > > > > > > > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > > > > > > > > > mishra.lalit@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx for posting such a nice > enlightenning > > > post > > > > > to > > > > > > > > group, > > > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > enough food for thoughts, I took time to > > reply > > > to > > > > > u > > > > > > as > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > wanted to > > > > > > > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if our members are really trying to update > > > their > > > > > > > existing > > > > > > > > > > > knowledge > > > > > > > > > > > > > > base, i m not very appreciative of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now as enough time has been spent and > > > > > Mahashivaratri > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > over, > > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > day, the way Lord Shiva managed a > > > Rudrabhisheka > > > > > for > > > > > > me > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > overwhelmed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me, I had even not a single Vilva Patra > and I > > > was > > > > > > > given > > > > > > > > > > everything > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ready, just in couple of seconds, This > also > > > gives > > > > > me > > > > > > > > > enough > > > > > > > > > > self > > > > > > > > > > > > > > confidence that I m right in my approach, > > > several > > > > > > > times i > > > > > > > > > m > > > > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to write openly about spiritual > experiences, > > > > Sorry > > > > > I > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > it, > > > > > > > > > > coz, > > > > > > > > > > > > Good > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has to be known to everyone, to spread > > > > everywhere, > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > ego ? > > > > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > > > > > ego > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there, when we know all is God's maya and > all > > > the > > > > > > > > > recepients > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > > > > > souls like me, as near to God as me is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, I think time has come back to learn > > about > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > exaltations > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > u, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. be kind to me and to group and tell > us > > > from > > > > > ur > > > > > > > > > treasure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <sree88ganesha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Lalit Mishra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. i am happy to > > receive > > > > > your > > > > > > > mail. > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > > > > happy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > note > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > deep interest in the > subject. > > > i > > > > am > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > back > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > schedule. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shall > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be away for a few more > days - > > > > Siva > > > > > > > Ratri > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > round > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > corner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i feel that every pravesha > > has > > > a > > > > > > > definite > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > significance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mean that i am trying to > > > belittle > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > thithi > > > > > > > > > > > > pravesha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > theory. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shall > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go into this later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i just came across our > > > respected > > > > > > > > > > Chandrasekharji's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > observation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > connection with exaltation > > and > > > > > > > > > debilitation > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > grahas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through others > observation. i > > > am > > > > > > sorry > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me take up one by one. > > You > > > > can > > > > > > > stop > > > > > > > > me > > > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you/the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > group > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > feels > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is boring. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May Mother Bless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically & > spiritually > > > > yours, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir P.S. RamNarain > Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar, Hope u r fine > > > there > > > > > and > > > > > > > > doing > > > > > > > > > > well, > > > > > > > > > > > > From > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > side, We > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are expecting u to > complete > > > ur > > > > > > > > > interesting > > > > > > > > > > > article > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > exaltation in which u > > > indicated > > > > > > > Kurma > > > > > > > > > > Avtaar's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > significations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > undestanding the > exaltation > > > > > > theories. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls. find some time for > our > > > > > sake, I > > > > > > > w'd > > > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > > > request > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > throw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > light on significations > of > > > > Tithi > > > > > > > > Pravesha > > > > > > > > > > > charts, > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sr. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > member > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > group has requested for > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 dear shri bhaskar, well said. i fully concur with u that if a person has attained self realisation or in a position to be above the normal bhaktan, he or she will never claim that he has attained self realisation or say that he can communicate with Mata or shiva or vishnu. It only reflects gross immaturity and that the concerned individual hasnt had any god realisation. good wishes, k.gopu ______________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Mr Gopu, Great, In every age and time we function differently suitable to that age, This is the age of climing openly and having strength to proove that, If i say something, I have got the power of truth to establish that in other's life too. Can u find a reason why saying " I have attained self realization " is immaturity ? Do u know our 2 women members have been diven longevity while they were suffering from Cancer, Medical Report turned favorable miraculously, in just couple of days when Mother Blessed them. Spend ur whole life in Dark or rush to light of the Blessings is ur choice, ur life. If ur understanding is limited, it's ur problem. ~Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , K Gopu <kgopu_24 wrote: > > dear shri bhaskar, > well said. i fully concur with u that if a person has > attained self realisation or in a position to be above > the normal bhaktan, he or she will never claim that he > has attained self realisation or say that he can > communicate with Mata or shiva or vishnu. > It only reflects gross immaturity and that the > concerned individual hasnt had any god realisation. > > good wishes, > k.gopu > > > > > > ____________________ ______________ > Never miss a thing. Make your home page. > http://www./r/hs > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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