Guest guest Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 Dear Lalit,Jyotish shastra is not an accursed discipline. No discipline need be as long as the use is above board. Astrology is knowledge of knowledge, ie the tool to know. As such the tool has great potential of abuse. People, in the name of delving into others' futures or in the name of decoding the patterns of their thought habits and desires tend to bend it to a sad shape. Thus, a man is mated with animal. All by way of chart-reading, if at all to malign a person. When the obverse happens, the poor 'yajmaan' is placed on cloud nine. Such wielders of the 'knowledge' are debased. They have no means to earn by honest labour. They beg, borrow and lie. The moment such avidya is peddled by astrologer (as in "I am a professional, I must charge my fee" no matter what bunkum I mouth) the downfall begins. Their ethics do not end there; a prodigal professinonal can flaunt a moral indignation of saying: "You will be my slave in the next life." Good heaven! I feel, the downhill journey starts the moment such craven 'astrological' utterances are made. Finer faculties of the mind will remain closed to whosoever so abuses the knowledge of knowledge(s). Yes, astrologers are prone to anxieties, to the extent that they know what is coming. To know such a thing is not an advantage for everyone. For some users it is a jinx. For certain others it is even worse. You are right no astrologer can be very rich. To be rich one has to be industrious. Astrologers (as in those who earn from astrology) must be prepared to walk the narrow and straight of life, not cruise in a car. That way lies their sadgati. May members here have the best of astrological intents even while debating or arguing. RK Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol" <mishra.lalit wrote:>> Group and Elders of the Group,> > As u are aware, i got tons of bad name by Bhaskar and Sunil Nair and > their other friends.> > I m having thoughts if Jyotish a shrapit subject, why it doesnt make > good people, reading about karma theory and understanding a chart > accordingly still not becoming good human being ?> > Had i not objected both of them where they were wrong, they w'd not > have gone to the level of taking revenge. I firstly tried to defend > myself with some evidences but they were in large no.> > Thanx to Sri Narsimha, he saved my self respect.> > I dont see Jyotishi's are very rich in india, is there tremendous > scope for business, what's the reason, Why Jyotish makes most people > very bad ?> > regards,> Lalit.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " arkaydash " <arkaydash wrote: > Hari Om. Dear Lalit first I like to say hello to you and to members on this forum. I think that Jyotish like any other Vedic science is science for satvic people, but not for people who just call themselves satvic, but for people who live satvic life in most of times. Jyotish is not science for people who deal with black magic and for people who not live on principles of Sanathana Dharma. Because of that any kind of Vedic science will be obtain bad name and reputation in present times. The best thing is to ignore such persons and not to vast our energy on them. Because if we are fighting with such persons, we exchange our energy with theirs energies and we pollute ourselves. If we must have contact with such persons than good things is to remember them of principles of Sanathana Dharma, and to be light on theirs path in the better and positive life. True will never be destroyed, of any kind of weapons of any kind of peoples. Best regards, ashwini Best regards, ashwini > > Dear Lalit, > Jyotish shastra is not an accursed discipline. No discipline need be as > long as the use is above board. Astrology is knowledge of knowledge, ie > the tool to know. As such the tool has great potential of abuse. People, > in the name of delving into others' futures or in the name of decoding > the patterns of their thought habits and desires tend to bend it to a > sad shape. Thus, a man is mated with animal. All by way of > chart-reading, if at all to malign a person. > > When the obverse happens, the poor 'yajmaan' is placed on cloud nine. > Such wielders of the 'knowledge' are debased. They have no means to earn > by honest labour. They beg, borrow and lie. > > The moment such avidya is peddled by astrologer (as in " I am a > professional, I must charge my fee " no matter what bunkum I mouth) the > downfall begins. Their ethics do not end there; a prodigal professinonal > can flaunt a moral indignation of saying: " You will be my slave in the > next life. " Good heaven! > > I feel, the downhill journey starts the moment such craven > 'astrological' utterances are made. Finer faculties of the mind will > remain closed to whosoever so abuses the knowledge of knowledge(s). > > Yes, astrologers are prone to anxieties, to the extent that they know > what is coming. To know such a thing is not an advantage for everyone. > For some users it is a jinx. For certain others it is even worse. > > You are right no astrologer can be very rich. To be rich one has to be > industrious. Astrologers (as in those who earn from astrology) must be > prepared to walk the narrow and straight of life, not cruise in a car. > That way lies their sadgati. > > May members here have the best of astrological intents even while > debating or arguing. > > RK > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > Group and Elders of the Group, > > > > As u are aware, i got tons of bad name by Bhaskar and Sunil Nair and > > their other friends. > > > > I m having thoughts if Jyotish a shrapit subject, why it doesnt make > > good people, reading about karma theory and understanding a chart > > accordingly still not becoming good human being ? > > > > Had i not objected both of them where they were wrong, they w'd not > > have gone to the level of taking revenge. I firstly tried to defend > > myself with some evidences but they were in large no. > > > > Thanx to Sri Narsimha, he saved my self respect. > > > > I dont see Jyotishi's are very rich in india, is there tremendous > > scope for business, what's the reason, Why Jyotish makes most people > > very bad ? > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2008 Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 Dear RKDa and Lalit, RKDa: Well said. There is always a Karmic price to pay for abusing Jyotish.Let me leave it at that !! Lalit: The events of the past few weeks have been painful for you. Please introspect about this and you will see that there is a major lesson to be learned for you from all this. Concentrate strictly on Jyotish and forget what other people say about you Regards, aavesh arkaydash <arkaydash wrote: Dear Lalit,Jyotish shastra is not an accursed discipline. No discipline need be as long as the use is above board. Astrology is knowledge of knowledge, ie the tool to know. As such the tool has great potential of abuse. People, in the name of delving into others' futures or in the name of decoding the patterns of their thought habits and desires tend to bend it to a sad shape. Thus, a man is mated with animal. All by way of chart-reading, if at all to malign a person. When the obverse happens, the poor 'yajmaan' is placed on cloud nine. Such wielders of the 'knowledge' are debased. They have no means to earn by honest labour. They beg, borrow and lie. The moment such avidya is peddled by astrologer (as in "I am a professional, I must charge my fee" no matter what bunkum I mouth) the downfall begins. Their ethics do not end there; a prodigal professinonal can flaunt a moral indignation of saying: "You will be my slave in the next life." Good heaven! I feel, the downhill journey starts the moment such craven 'astrological' utterances are made. Finer faculties of the mind will remain closed to whosoever so abuses the knowledge of knowledge(s). Yes, astrologers are prone to anxieties, to the extent that they know what is coming. To know such a thing is not an advantage for everyone. For some users it is a jinx. For certain others it is even worse. You are right no astrologer can be very rich. To be rich one has to be industrious. Astrologers (as in those who earn from astrology) must be prepared to walk the narrow and straight of life, not cruise in a car. That way lies their sadgati. May members here have the best of astrological intents even while debating or arguing. RK Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol" <mishra.lalit wrote:>> Group and Elders of the Group,> > As u are aware, i got tons of bad name by Bhaskar and Sunil Nair and > their other friends.> > I m having thoughts if Jyotish a shrapit subject, why it doesnt make > good people, reading about karma theory and understanding a chart > accordingly still not becoming good human being ?> > Had i not objected both of them where they were wrong, they w'd not > have gone to the level of taking revenge. I firstly tried to defend > myself with some evidences but they were in large no.> > Thanx to Sri Narsimha, he saved my self respect.> > I dont see Jyotishi's are very rich in india, is there tremendous > scope for business, what's the reason, Why Jyotish makes most people > very bad ?> > regard s,> Lalit.> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2008 Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 Dear RK da, I agree that Jyotish is not a cursed science. it could not be as it is a Vedanga (one of the 6t limbs of Vedas) and was amongst the 36 shastras and 64 kalas taught to every student, in ancient times. Being Vedanga, it is natural that one may get cursed if he uses it for ulterior motives. Chandrashekhar aavesh t wrote: Dear RKDa and Lalit, RKDa: Well said. There is always a Karmic price to pay for abusing Jyotish.Let me leave it at that !! Lalit: The events of the past few weeks have been painful for you. Please introspect about this and you will see that there is a major lesson to be learned for you from all this. Concentrate strictly on Jyotish and forget what other people say about you Regards, aavesh arkaydash <arkaydash (AT) grouply (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Lalit, Jyotish shastra is not an accursed discipline. No discipline need be as long as the use is above board. Astrology is knowledge of knowledge, ie the tool to know. As such the tool has great potential of abuse. People, in the name of delving into others' futures or in the name of decoding the patterns of their thought habits and desires tend to bend it to a sad shape. Thus, a man is mated with animal. All by way of chart-reading, if at all to malign a person. When the obverse happens, the poor 'yajmaan' is placed on cloud nine. Such wielders of the 'knowledge' are debased. They have no means to earn by honest labour. They beg, borrow and lie. The moment such avidya is peddled by astrologer (as in "I am a professional, I must charge my fee" no matter what bunkum I mouth) the downfall begins. Their ethics do not end there; a prodigal professinonal can flaunt a moral indignation of saying: "You will be my slave in the next life." Good heaven! I feel, the downhill journey starts the moment such craven 'astrological' utterances are made. Finer faculties of the mind will remain closed to whosoever so abuses the knowledge of knowledge(s). Yes, astrologers are prone to anxieties, to the extent that they know what is coming. To know such a thing is not an advantage for everyone. For some users it is a jinx. For certain others it is even worse. You are right no astrologer can be very rich. To be rich one has to be industrious. Astrologers (as in those who earn from astrology) must be prepared to walk the narrow and straight of life, not cruise in a car. That way lies their sadgati. May members here have the best of astrological intents even while debating or arguing. RK Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol" <mishra.lalit wrote: > > Group and Elders of the Group, > > As u are aware, i got tons of bad name by Bhaskar and Sunil Nair and > their other friends. > > I m having thoughts if Jyotish a shrapit subject, why it doesnt make > good people, reading about karma theory and understanding a chart > accordingly still not becoming good human being ? > > Had i not objected both of them where they were wrong, they w'd not > have gone to the level of taking revenge. I firstly tried to defend > myself with some evidences but they were in large no. > > Thanx to Sri Narsimha, he saved my self respect. > > I dont see Jyotishi's are very rich in india, is there tremendous > scope for business, what's the reason, Why Jyotish makes most people > very bad ? > > regard s, > Lalit. > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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