Guest guest Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAMAUM GURUBYO NAMAHDear Shri Lalit Mishra ji & Aavesh ji,Namaste.Jyotish Shastra is not an object to attain but is a Subject, which is subject to transformation!The Kaala jnana which is obtained is indeed Siva jnana - the jnana which clearly points out about the use and abuse of time.Sanakaadhi Munis the manasa putras did not partake/participate in Brahma's activity/srshti. This resulted in Brahma Kopa. Sanakadi Munis reached Vaikunta with the Brahma Kopa. The dwarapalakas - Jaya and Vijaya stopped them at the doorway to remove the Brahma Kopa tag! This is in fact the karunya of the door keepers of Vaikunta. Having removed the Brahma Kopa from the Sanakadi Munis they were prepared to burn out the same through lives in Mrtyu Loka/bhoo loka. The Lord came out to the doorway not only to bless Sanakadi Munis but also to appreciate this act of Jaya and Vijaya who were prepared to undergo the turmoil of Brahma Kopa on behalf of Sanakadi Munis just because they had reached Vaikunta. The birth of Hiranyaksha, Hiranyakashipu etc., is the result of this act of dwarapalakas of Vaikunta. How to transform this Brahma Kopa? The medium is naturally through Kaala/time factor. The time chosen for this transformation was Sandhya(the natural transformation time). Diti requests for unison with Kashyapa during this time(Sandhya). Kashyapa the great sage forewarns her that the request is not supported by Kala dharma. When she insisted the act as a boon the transformation of Brahma kopa took shape. Sexual unison during wednesdays and Sandhyas is generally avoided for this reason.Dhanur kshetra is Vaikunta(Vaikunta dwara is supposed to open during the time when the Sun is in Dhanur is it not!?). The 7th from this is the dwara where the gate keepers stand - Mithuna is the Vaikunta dwara where the dwarapalakas stand(twins). Buda is the ruler of this kshetra. Buda rules Sandhyas. It is through this Buda/Sandhya that the Brahma Kopa carried by Sanakadi Munis were accepted by the dwara palakas and transformed through an act which is considered as abuse of kala. Sun the natural ruler of Dharma is found ill at ease in Mithuna. This gives us the vital clue that Mithuna kshetra causes the receipt of Brahma Kopa and its transformation!Brahma causes the Sun to rise and dharma causes the Sun to set as per Yaksha Prasna. There's lot to understand here. Kala jnana is Siva jnana. As usual the mail is becoming lengthier. i shall stop here.Best wishes.May Mother Bless.Astrologically & spiritually yours,p.s.ramanarayanan.Vedic Astrologyandhealing , aavesh t <aavesh_s wrote:>> Dear Chandrashekarji,> > Jyotish is spoken of as the 'Chakshu' of the Vedanga.> > Varahamihira has spoken of the qualifications of a Jyotishi> very eloquently.> > It is sad that Jyotish has become a tool for selfaggrandisement in the present times> > However.there are still some genuine Jyotishis who practice Jyotish as a Sadhana and these select few keep the flame of Jyotish burning> bright !! > > Regards,> > aavesh> > > Chandrashekhar sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:> Dear RK da,> > I agree that Jyotish is not a cursed science. it could not be as it is a Vedanga (one of the 6t limbs of Vedas) and was amongst the 36 shastras and 64 kalas taught to every student, in ancient times.> > Being Vedanga, it is natural that one may get cursed if he uses it for ulterior motives.> > Chandrashekhar> > aavesh t wrote: Dear RKDa and Lalit,> > RKDa: Well said.> > There is always a Karmic price to pay for abusing Jyotish.Let me leave it at that !!> > Lalit: The events of the past few weeks have been painful for you.> > Please introspect about this and you will see that there is a major lesson to be learned for you from all this.> > Concentrate strictly on Jyotish and forget what other people say about you > > Regards,> > aavesh> > > > > > arkaydash arkaydash wrote:> Dear Lalit,> Jyotish shastra is not an accursed discipline. No discipline need be as long as the use is above board. Astrology is knowledge of knowledge, ie the tool to know. As such the tool has great potential of abuse. People, in the name of delving into others' futures or in the name of decoding the patterns of their thought habits and desires tend to bend it to a sad shape. Thus, a man is mated with animal. All by way of chart-reading, if at all to malign a person. > When the obverse happens, the poor 'yajmaan' is placed on cloud nine. Such wielders of the 'knowledge' are debased. They have no means to earn by honest labour. They beg, borrow and lie. > The moment such avidya is peddled by astrologer (as in "I am a professional, I must charge my fee" no matter what bunkum I mouth) the downfall begins. Their ethics do not end there; a prodigal professinonal can flaunt a moral indignation of saying: "You will be my slave in the next life." Good heaven! > I feel, the downhill journey starts the moment such craven 'astrological' utterances are made. Finer faculties of the mind will remain closed to whosoever so abuses the knowledge of knowledge(s).> Yes, astrologers are prone to anxieties, to the extent that they know what is coming. To know such a thing is not an advantage for everyone. For some users it is a jinx. For certain others it is even worse. > You are right no astrologer can be very rich. To be rich one has to be industrious. Astrologers (as in those who earn from astrology) must be prepared to walk the narrow and straight of life, not cruise in a car. That way lies their sadgati.> May members here have the best of astrological intents even while debating or arguing.> RK> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol" mishra.lalit@ wrote:> >> > Group and Elders of the Group,> > > > As u are aware, i got tons of bad name by Bhaskar and Sunil Nair and > > their other friends.> > > > I m having thoughts if Jyotish a shrapit subject, why it doesnt make > > good people, reading about karma theory and understanding a chart > > accordingly still not becoming good human being ?> > > > Had i not objected both of them where they were wrong, they w'd not > > have gone to the level of taking revenge. I firstly tried to defend > > myself with some evidences but they were in large no.> > > > Thanx to Sri Narsimha, he saved my self respect.> > > > I dont see Jyotishi's are very rich in india, is there tremendous > > scope for business, what's the reason, Why Jyotish makes most people > > very bad ?> > > > regard s,> > Lalit.> >> > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now > > > > > > > Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 Resp Sri Ramanarayanan Ji, The way u desribe things by identifying their links in puranas is unique, I like it very much. your suggestion was not accepted by idiot bhaskar and he is suffering more. pls. continue ur series on Exaltation, somebody asked me how Ashelasha is related to Naga, where is the base and what's the meaning of this relation. I had 2 -3 books on nakschhatras, i dont know where i missed one of them thus not able to find the source of Naga myth added to Ashlesha. pls. find some time for us and let's know it. regadrs, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " <sree88ganesha wrote: > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > Dear Shri Lalit Mishra ji & Aavesh ji, > > Namaste. > > Jyotish Shastra is not an object to attain but is a Subject, which is > subject to transformation! > > The Kaala jnana which is obtained is indeed Siva jnana - the jnana which > clearly points out about the use and abuse of time. > > Sanakaadhi Munis the manasa putras did not partake/participate in > Brahma's activity/srshti. This resulted in Brahma Kopa. Sanakadi Munis > reached Vaikunta with the Brahma Kopa. The dwarapalakas - Jaya and > Vijaya stopped them at the doorway to remove the Brahma Kopa tag! This > is in fact the karunya of the door keepers of Vaikunta. Having removed > the Brahma Kopa from the Sanakadi Munis they were prepared to burn out > the same through lives in Mrtyu Loka/bhoo loka. The Lord came out to the > doorway not only to bless Sanakadi Munis but also to appreciate this act > of Jaya and Vijaya who were prepared to undergo the turmoil of Brahma > Kopa on behalf of Sanakadi Munis just because they had reached Vaikunta. > The birth of Hiranyaksha, Hiranyakashipu etc., is the result of this > act of dwarapalakas of Vaikunta. How to transform this Brahma Kopa? The > medium is naturally through Kaala/time factor. The time chosen for this > transformation was Sandhya(the natural transformation time). > > Diti requests for unison with Kashyapa during this time(Sandhya). > Kashyapa the great sage forewarns her that the request is not supported > by Kala dharma. When she insisted the act as a boon the transformation > of Brahma kopa took shape. Sexual unison during wednesdays and Sandhyas > is generally avoided for this reason. > > Dhanur kshetra is Vaikunta(Vaikunta dwara is supposed to open during the > time when the Sun is in Dhanur is it not!?). The 7th from this is the > dwara where the gate keepers stand - Mithuna is the Vaikunta dwara where > the dwarapalakas stand(twins). Buda is the ruler of this kshetra. Buda > rules Sandhyas. It is through this Buda/Sandhya that the Brahma Kopa > carried by Sanakadi Munis were accepted by the dwara palakas and > transformed through an act which is considered as abuse of kala. Sun > the natural ruler of Dharma is found ill at ease in Mithuna. This gives > us the vital clue that Mithuna kshetra causes the receipt of Brahma Kopa > and its transformation! > > Brahma causes the Sun to rise and dharma causes the Sun to set as per > Yaksha Prasna. There's lot to understand here. Kala jnana is Siva jnana. > > As usual the mail is becoming lengthier. i shall stop here. > > Best wishes. > > May Mother Bless. > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , aavesh t <aavesh_s@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Chandrashekarji, > > > > Jyotish is spoken of as the 'Chakshu' of the Vedanga. > > > > Varahamihira has spoken of the qualifications of a Jyotishi > > very eloquently. > > > > It is sad that Jyotish has become a tool for selfaggrandisement in > the present times > > > > However.there are still some genuine Jyotishis who practice Jyotish > as a Sadhana and these select few keep the flame of Jyotish burning > > bright !! > > > > Regards, > > > > aavesh > > > > > > Chandrashekhar sharma.chandrashekhar@ wrote: > > Dear RK da, > > > > I agree that Jyotish is not a cursed science. it could not be as it is > a Vedanga (one of the 6t limbs of Vedas) and was amongst the 36 shastras > and 64 kalas taught to every student, in ancient times. > > > > Being Vedanga, it is natural that one may get cursed if he uses it for > ulterior motives. > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > aavesh t wrote: Dear RKDa and Lalit, > > > > RKDa: Well said. > > > > There is always a Karmic price to pay for abusing Jyotish.Let me > leave it at that !! > > > > Lalit: The events of the past few weeks have been painful for you. > > > > Please introspect about this and you will see that there is a major > lesson to be learned for you from all this. > > > > Concentrate strictly on Jyotish and forget what other people say > about you > > > > Regards, > > > > aavesh > > > > > > > > > > > > arkaydash arkaydash@ wrote: > > Dear Lalit, > > Jyotish shastra is not an accursed discipline. No discipline need be > as long as the use is above board. Astrology is knowledge of knowledge, > ie the tool to know. As such the tool has great potential of abuse. > People, in the name of delving into others' futures or in the name of > decoding the patterns of their thought habits and desires tend to bend > it to a sad shape. Thus, a man is mated with animal. All by way of > chart-reading, if at all to malign a person. > > When the obverse happens, the poor 'yajmaan' is placed on cloud > nine. Such wielders of the 'knowledge' are debased. They have no means > to earn by honest labour. They beg, borrow and lie. > > The moment such avidya is peddled by astrologer (as in " I am a > professional, I must charge my fee " no matter what bunkum I mouth) the > downfall begins. Their ethics do not end there; a prodigal professinonal > can flaunt a moral indignation of saying: " You will be my slave in the > next life. " Good heaven! > > I feel, the downhill journey starts the moment such craven > 'astrological' utterances are made. Finer faculties of the mind will > remain closed to whosoever so abuses the knowledge of knowledge(s). > > Yes, astrologers are prone to anxieties, to the extent that they > know what is coming. To know such a thing is not an advantage for > everyone. For some users it is a jinx. For certain others it is even > worse. > > You are right no astrologer can be very rich. To be rich one has to > be industrious. Astrologers (as in those who earn from astrology) must > be prepared to walk the narrow and straight of life, not cruise in a > car. That way lies their sadgati. > > May members here have the best of astrological intents even while > debating or arguing. > > RK > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > mishra.lalit@ wrote: > > > > > > Group and Elders of the Group, > > > > > > As u are aware, i got tons of bad name by Bhaskar and Sunil Nair and > > > their other friends. > > > > > > I m having thoughts if Jyotish a shrapit subject, why it doesnt make > > > good people, reading about karma theory and understanding a chart > > > accordingly still not becoming good human being ? > > > > > > Had i not objected both of them where they were wrong, they w'd not > > > have gone to the level of taking revenge. I firstly tried to defend > > > myself with some evidences but they were in large no. > > > > > > Thanx to Sri Narsimha, he saved my self respect. > > > > > > I dont see Jyotishi's are very rich in india, is there tremendous > > > scope for business, what's the reason, Why Jyotish makes most people > > > very bad ? > > > > > > regard s, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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