Guest guest Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 Classics mention complicated methods of Birth Time Correction, I found this native's horoscope needs correction, his known horoscope looked a wrong one to me. Corrected Horoscope (In My Opinion) Incorrect Horoscope Time : 7:50 PM , Time : 8:10 PMDate : 18-Aug- 1980 Date : 18-Aug- 1980 Bilaspur, Chhatisgarh, India Bilaspur, Chhatisgarh, India (1) (2) Clues : He is tall, very handsom with sharp features, particularly nose, MBA but was not serious in studies, enjoyed beautiful girl's company during studies, stung by scorpio in July 2002 and have got a very nice supporting elder brother, had met an accident in May 2006. Not doing good at Job front, very ambitous but not a hard worker, blessed with a sweet voice. I changed the lagna from Pisces to Aquarious, it satisfies the tall body, jupitor's aspect gives him gracious look and sun makes him slim as well as sharp, however in case of 2nd horoscope, his being tall and slim also gets satisfied because of Mars + Saturn's aspect on lagna, however, his fair color was an exception leading to correction of birth data. A supporting elder brother is another clue, in the first chart, 11'th lord Jupitor is placed in 7'th house thus a good elder brother who is helping him to improve upon his personality, in the 2nd horoscope ketu is prsent in 11'th house however, Saturn the 11'th lord is placed in 7'th house is afflicted by Mars, rejects the idea of haing a good brother.He is an intelligent guy and a very good host to guests, but he failed to exploit his intelligence for his own good, 5'th lord mercury's placement in 6'th house justifies both, mercury's aspect to 12'th hosue makes one a superb host, rahu excelerates mercury's auspeciousness (exception) but both are present in 6'th house in 1st chart so, he failed in using his caliber, in the 2nd horoscope too 5'th lord moon placed in 8'th house, so, this, factor alone doesnt make a distinction coz badly placed moon disables him from using his mind. but where is the clue, he was stung by scorpio, so i looked at Rahu, in the 1st chart, Rahu is placed in 6'th house and during Sani - Rahu he was stung. he has a very good nature though sometimes he is fiery too, Sani + Mangal in 8'th house can give such a fire to him but this is fairly possible in 2nd horoscope too, so, next I looked at his possession of vehicles, 4'th lord Venus's placement in 5'th house explains this and he is very dear to his mom, both venu and moon supports mother's love to him and 9'th lord's placement in 5'th house further denotes inclinations satvik helping nature as well as interest in religious activities. His handwriting is not god and he is lazy in writing, 3'rd lor mars's placement in 8'th house and having aspect of Mars as well as Saturn explained his bad handwriting. So, I decided upon the 1'st horoscope as correct one, w'd like to have ur's opinion on this excercise. regards,Lalit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 Dear Lalit, I presume he also has sparse hair and may be fond of eating? If so the lagna does seem to be Aquarius. marital happiness might be a problem. Chandrashekhar. litsol wrote: Classics mention complicated methods of Birth Time Correction, I found this native's horoscope needs correction, his known horoscope looked a wrong one to me. Corrected Horoscope (In My Opinion) Incorrect Horoscope Time : 7:50 PM , Time : 8:10 PM Date : 18-Aug- 1980 Date : 18-Aug- 1980 Bilaspur, Chhatisgarh, India Bilaspur, Chhatisgarh, India (1) (2) Clues : He is tall, very handsom with sharp features, particularly nose, MBA but was not serious in studies, enjoyed beautiful girl's company during studies, stung by scorpio in July 2002 and have got a very nice supporting elder brother, had met an accident in May 2006. Not doing good at Job front, very ambitous but not a hard worker, blessed with a sweet voice. I changed the lagna from Pisces to Aquarious, it satisfies the tall body, jupitor's aspect gives him gracious look and sun makes him slim as well as sharp, however in case of 2nd horoscope, his being tall and slim also gets satisfied because of Mars + Saturn's aspect on lagna, however, his fair color was an exception leading to correction of birth data. A supporting elder brother is another clue, in the first chart, 11'th lord Jupitor is placed in 7'th house thus a good elder brother who is helping him to improve upon his personality, in the 2nd horoscope ketu is prsent in 11'th house however, Saturn the 11'th lord is placed in 7'th house is afflicted by Mars, rejects the idea of haing a good brother. He is an intelligent guy and a very good host to guests, but he failed to exploit his intelligence for his own good, 5'th lord mercury's placement in 6'th house justifies both, mercury's aspect to 12'th hosue makes one a superb host, rahu excelerates mercury's auspeciousness (exception) but both are present in 6'th house in 1st chart so, he failed in using his caliber, in the 2nd horoscope too 5'th lord moon placed in 8'th house, so, this, factor alone doesnt make a distinction coz badly placed moon disables him from using his mind. but where is the clue, he was stung by scorpio, so i looked at Rahu, in the 1st chart, Rahu is placed in 6'th house and during Sani - Rahu he was stung. he has a very good nature though sometimes he is fiery too, Sani + Mangal in 8'th house can give such a fire to him but this is fairly possible in 2nd horoscope too, so, next I looked at his possession of vehicles, 4'th lord Venus's placement in 5'th house explains this and he is very dear to his mom, both venu and moon supports mother's love to him and 9'th lord's placement in 5'th house further denotes inclinations satvik helping nature as well as interest in religious activities. His handwriting is not god and he is lazy in writing, 3'rd lor mars's placement in 8'th house and having aspect of Mars as well as Saturn explained his bad handwriting. So, I decided upon the 1'st horoscope as correct one, w'd like to have ur's opinion on this excercise. regards, Lalit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 Dear Sir, Thanx a lot for the kind guidance, Yes, he likes to eat every often and has sparse hairs. Once he fell into a water (1992 or 1993) tank but nothing happened to him, this is one point that i could not solve with aquarius lagna as moon goes to 9'th house. can mars in 8'th or mercury in 6'th being 8'th lord make him fall into a water tank. regards, Lalit Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Lalit, > > I presume he also has sparse hair and may be fond of eating? If so the > lagna does seem to be Aquarius. marital happiness might be a problem. > > Chandrashekhar. > > litsol wrote: > > > > Classics mention complicated methods of Birth Time Correction, I found > > this native's horoscope needs correction, his known horoscope looked a > > wrong one to me. > > > > Corrected Horoscope (In My Opinion) > > Incorrect Horoscope > > > > > > > > Time : 7:50 PM > > , > > Time : 8:10 PM > > Date : 18-Aug- > > 1980 Date > > : 18-Aug- 1980 > > Bilaspur, Chhatisgarh, > > India Bilaspur, > > Chhatisgarh, India > > > > > > (1) > > (2) > > > > Clues : He is tall, very handsom with sharp features, particularly > > nose, MBA but was not serious in studies, enjoyed beautiful girl's > > company during studies, stung by scorpio in July 2002 and have got a > > very nice supporting elder brother, had met an accident in May 2006. > > Not doing good at Job front, very ambitous but not a hard worker, > > blessed with a sweet voice. > > > > I changed the lagna from Pisces to Aquarious, it satisfies the tall > > body, jupitor's aspect gives him gracious look and sun makes him slim > > as well as sharp, however in case of 2nd horoscope, his being tall > > and slim also gets satisfied because of Mars + Saturn's aspect on > > lagna, however, his fair color was an exception leading to correction > > of birth data. > > > > A supporting elder brother is another clue, in the first chart, 11'th > > lord Jupitor is placed in 7'th house thus a good elder brother who is > > helping him to improve upon his personality, in the 2nd horoscope ketu > > is prsent in 11'th house however, Saturn the 11'th lord is placed in > > 7'th house is afflicted by Mars, rejects the idea of haing a good brother. > > > > He is an intelligent guy and a very good host to guests, but he failed > > to exploit his intelligence for his own good, 5'th lord mercury's > > placement in 6'th house justifies both, mercury's aspect to 12'th > > hosue makes one a superb host, rahu excelerates mercury's > > auspeciousness (exception) but both are present in 6'th house in 1st > > chart so, he failed in using his caliber, in the 2nd horoscope too > > 5'th lord moon placed in 8'th house, so, this, factor alone doesnt > > make a distinction coz badly placed moon disables him from using his > > mind. > > > > but where is the clue, he was stung by scorpio, so i looked at Rahu, > > in the 1st chart, Rahu is placed in 6'th house and during Sani - Rahu > > he was stung. he has a very good nature though sometimes he is fiery > > too, Sani + Mangal in 8'th house can give such a fire to him but this > > is fairly possible in 2nd horoscope too, so, next I looked at his > > possession of vehicles, 4'th lord Venus's placement in 5'th house > > explains this and he is very dear to his mom, both venu and moon > > supports mother's love to him and 9'th lord's placement in 5'th house > > further denotes inclinations satvik helping nature as well as interest > > in religious activities. His handwriting is not god and he is lazy in > > writing, 3'rd lor mars's placement in 8'th house and having aspect of > > Mars as well as Saturn explained his bad handwriting. > > > > So, I decided upon the 1'st horoscope as correct one, w'd like to have > > ur's opinion on this excercise. > > > > regards, > > Lalit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 Dear Lalit Namaste Chandra Navmansha usually gives good indications regarding physical aspects of a person along with Navmansha Lagna Lord. You said that the person is handsome which is indicated by the Chandra rashi Tula and Chandra Navmansha Mithuna. The Navmansha lagna lord gives hint for scanty or short hair. Meena lagna can as well justify he enjoying girls company. 9th lord being in 7th may waste his degree education. So I feel that his meena lagna can be correct and his actual time may be 8.12.02 pm. Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. Prabodh Vekhande Jai Jai Shankar Har Har Shankar Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > > Classics mention complicated methods of Birth Time Correction, I found > this native's horoscope needs correction, his known horoscope looked a > wrong one to me. > > Corrected Horoscope (In My Opinion) > Incorrect Horoscope > > > > Time : 7:50 PM , > Time : 8:10 PM > Date : 18-Aug- 1980 > Date : 18-Aug- 1980 > Bilaspur, Chhatisgarh, India > Bilaspur, Chhatisgarh, India > > (1) > (2) > > Clues : He is tall, very handsom with sharp features, particularly > nose, MBA but was not serious in studies, enjoyed beautiful girl's > company during studies, stung by scorpio in July 2002 and have got a > very nice supporting elder brother, had met an accident in May 2006. Not > doing good at Job front, very ambitous but not a hard worker, blessed > with a sweet voice. > > I changed the lagna from Pisces to Aquarious, it satisfies the tall > body, jupitor's aspect gives him gracious look and sun makes him slim as > well as sharp, however in case of 2nd horoscope, his being tall and > slim also gets satisfied because of Mars + Saturn's aspect on lagna, > however, his fair color was an exception leading to correction of birth > data. > > A supporting elder brother is another clue, in the first chart, 11'th > lord Jupitor is placed in 7'th house thus a good elder brother who is > helping him to improve upon his personality, in the 2nd horoscope ketu > is prsent in 11'th house however, Saturn the 11'th lord is placed in > 7'th house is afflicted by Mars, rejects the idea of haing a good > brother. > > He is an intelligent guy and a very good host to guests, but he failed > to exploit his intelligence for his own good, 5'th lord mercury's > placement in 6'th house justifies both, mercury's aspect to 12'th hosue > makes one a superb host, rahu excelerates mercury's auspeciousness > (exception) but both are present in 6'th house in 1st chart so, he > failed in using his caliber, in the 2nd horoscope too 5'th lord moon > placed in 8'th house, so, this, factor alone doesnt make a distinction > coz badly placed moon disables him from using his mind. > > but where is the clue, he was stung by scorpio, so i looked at Rahu, in > the 1st chart, Rahu is placed in 6'th house and during Sani - Rahu he > was stung. he has a very good nature though sometimes he is fiery too, > Sani + Mangal in 8'th house can give such a fire to him but this is > fairly possible in 2nd horoscope too, so, next I looked at his > possession of vehicles, 4'th lord Venus's placement in 5'th house > explains this and he is very dear to his mom, both venu and moon > supports mother's love to him and 9'th lord's placement in 5'th house > further denotes inclinations satvik helping nature as well as interest > in religious activities. His handwriting is not god and he is lazy in > writing, 3'rd lor mars's placement in 8'th house and having aspect of > Mars as well as Saturn explained his bad handwriting. > > So, I decided upon the 1'st horoscope as correct one, w'd like to have > ur's opinion on this excercise. > > regards, > Lalit > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 Dear Lalit, His 6th bhava is ruled by Moon and occupied by Rahu. There is also a triple exchange between Moon, Venus and Mercury. Need I say more? Check with him and you may find that the drowning incidence happened in Saturn- Venus (360 Savana day year) period that is around 5.3.2003. Chandrashekhar. litsol wrote: Dear Sir, Thanx a lot for the kind guidance, Yes, he likes to eat every often and has sparse hairs. Once he fell into a water (1992 or 1993) tank but nothing happened to him, this is one point that i could not solve with aquarius lagna as moon goes to 9'th house. can mars in 8'th or mercury in 6'th being 8'th lord make him fall into a water tank. regards, Lalit Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Lalit, > > I presume he also has sparse hair and may be fond of eating? If so the > lagna does seem to be Aquarius. marital happiness might be a problem. > > Chandrashekhar. > > litsol wrote: > > > > Classics mention complicated methods of Birth Time Correction, I found > > this native's horoscope needs correction, his known horoscope looked a > > wrong one to me. > > > > Corrected Horoscope (In My Opinion) > > Incorrect Horoscope > > > > > > > > Time : 7:50 PM > > , > > Time : 8:10 PM > > Date : 18-Aug- > > 1980 Date > > : 18-Aug- 1980 > > Bilaspur, Chhatisgarh, > > India Bilaspur, > > Chhatisgarh, India > > > > > > (1) > > (2) > > > > Clues : He is tall, very handsom with sharp features, particularly > > nose, MBA but was not serious in studies, enjoyed beautiful girl's > > company during studies, stung by scorpio in July 2002 and have got a > > very nice supporting elder brother, had met an accident in May 2006. > > Not doing good at Job front, very ambitous but not a hard worker, > > blessed with a sweet voice. > > > > I changed the lagna from Pisces to Aquarious, it satisfies the tall > > body, jupitor's aspect gives him gracious look and sun makes him slim > > as well as sharp, however in case of 2nd horoscope, his being tall > > and slim also gets satisfied because of Mars + Saturn's aspect on > > lagna, however, his fair color was an exception leading to correction > > of birth data. > > > > A supporting elder brother is another clue, in the first chart, 11'th > > lord Jupitor is placed in 7'th house thus a good elder brother who is > > helping him to improve upon his personality, in the 2nd horoscope ketu > > is prsent in 11'th house however, Saturn the 11'th lord is placed in > > 7'th house is afflicted by Mars, rejects the idea of haing a good brother. > > > > He is an intelligent guy and a very good host to guests, but he failed > > to exploit his intelligence for his own good, 5'th lord mercury's > > placement in 6'th house justifies both, mercury's aspect to 12'th > > hosue makes one a superb host, rahu excelerates mercury's > > auspeciousness (exception) but both are present in 6'th house in 1st > > chart so, he failed in using his caliber, in the 2nd horoscope too > > 5'th lord moon placed in 8'th house, so, this, factor alone doesnt > > make a distinction coz badly placed moon disables him from using his > > mind. > > > > but where is the clue, he was stung by scorpio, so i looked at Rahu, > > in the 1st chart, Rahu is placed in 6'th house and during Sani - Rahu > > he was stung. he has a very good nature though sometimes he is fiery > > too, Sani + Mangal in 8'th house can give such a fire to him but this > > is fairly possible in 2nd horoscope too, so, next I looked at his > > possession of vehicles, 4'th lord Venus's placement in 5'th house > > explains this and he is very dear to his mom, both venu and moon > > supports mother's love to him and 9'th lord's placement in 5'th house > > further denotes inclinations satvik helping nature as well as interest > > in religious activities. His handwriting is not god and he is lazy in > > writing, 3'rd lor mars's placement in 8'th house and having aspect of > > Mars as well as Saturn explained his bad handwriting. > > > > So, I decided upon the 1'st horoscope as correct one, w'd like to have > > ur's opinion on this excercise. > > > > regards, > > Lalit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 Dear Sir, In fact, Soon after posting this message, I happen to look at the chart from moon's angle and found it to be justifying the drowning. Thanx for helping in solving this riddle. regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Lalit, > > His 6th bhava is ruled by Moon and occupied by Rahu. There is also a > triple exchange between Moon, Venus and Mercury. Need I say more? Check > with him and you may find that the drowning incidence happened in > Saturn- Venus (360 Savana day year) period that is around 5.3.2003. > > Chandrashekhar. > > litsol wrote: > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > Thanx a lot for the kind guidance, Yes, he likes to eat every often > > and has sparse hairs. > > > > Once he fell into a water (1992 or 1993) tank but nothing happened to > > him, this is one point that i could not solve with aquarius lagna as > > moon goes to 9'th house. can mars in 8'th or mercury in 6'th being > > 8'th lord make him fall into a water tank. > > > > regards, > > Lalit > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, Chandrashekhar > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > > > I presume he also has sparse hair and may be fond of eating? If so > > the > > > lagna does seem to be Aquarius. marital happiness might be a > > problem. > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > > > Classics mention complicated methods of Birth Time Correction, I > > found > > > > this native's horoscope needs correction, his known horoscope > > looked a > > > > wrong one to me. > > > > > > > > Corrected Horoscope (In My Opinion) > > > > Incorrect Horoscope > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time : 7:50 PM > > > > > > , > > > > > > Time : 8:10 PM > > > > Date : 18-Aug- > > > > 1980 > > Date > > > > : 18-Aug- 1980 > > > > Bilaspur, Chhatisgarh, > > > > India Bilaspur, > > > > Chhatisgarh, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (1) > > > > > > (2) > > > > > > > > Clues : He is tall, very handsom with sharp features, > > particularly > > > > nose, MBA but was not serious in studies, enjoyed beautiful > > girl's > > > > company during studies, stung by scorpio in July 2002 and have > > got a > > > > very nice supporting elder brother, had met an accident in May > > 2006. > > > > Not doing good at Job front, very ambitous but not a hard worker, > > > > blessed with a sweet voice. > > > > > > > > I changed the lagna from Pisces to Aquarious, it satisfies the > > tall > > > > body, jupitor's aspect gives him gracious look and sun makes him > > slim > > > > as well as sharp, however in case of 2nd horoscope, his being > > tall > > > > and slim also gets satisfied because of Mars + Saturn's aspect > > on > > > > lagna, however, his fair color was an exception leading to > > correction > > > > of birth data. > > > > > > > > A supporting elder brother is another clue, in the first chart, > > 11'th > > > > lord Jupitor is placed in 7'th house thus a good elder brother > > who is > > > > helping him to improve upon his personality, in the 2nd horoscope > > ketu > > > > is prsent in 11'th house however, Saturn the 11'th lord is placed > > in > > > > 7'th house is afflicted by Mars, rejects the idea of haing a good > > brother. > > > > > > > > He is an intelligent guy and a very good host to guests, but he > > failed > > > > to exploit his intelligence for his own good, 5'th lord mercury's > > > > placement in 6'th house justifies both, mercury's aspect to 12'th > > > > hosue makes one a superb host, rahu excelerates mercury's > > > > auspeciousness (exception) but both are present in 6'th house in > > 1st > > > > chart so, he failed in using his caliber, in the 2nd horoscope > > too > > > > 5'th lord moon placed in 8'th house, so, this, factor alone > > doesnt > > > > make a distinction coz badly placed moon disables him from using > > his > > > > mind. > > > > > > > > but where is the clue, he was stung by scorpio, so i looked at > > Rahu, > > > > in the 1st chart, Rahu is placed in 6'th house and during Sani - > > Rahu > > > > he was stung. he has a very good nature though sometimes he is > > fiery > > > > too, Sani + Mangal in 8'th house can give such a fire to him but > > this > > > > is fairly possible in 2nd horoscope too, so, next I looked at his > > > > possession of vehicles, 4'th lord Venus's placement in 5'th house > > > > explains this and he is very dear to his mom, both venu and moon > > > > supports mother's love to him and 9'th lord's placement in 5'th > > house > > > > further denotes inclinations satvik helping nature as well as > > interest > > > > in religious activities. His handwriting is not god and he is > > lazy in > > > > writing, 3'rd lor mars's placement in 8'th house and having > > aspect of > > > > Mars as well as Saturn explained his bad handwriting. > > > > > > > > So, I decided upon the 1'st horoscope as correct one, w'd like to > > have > > > > ur's opinion on this excercise. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 Dear Prabodh Ji, Namaskaar, Yes, there have been lot many similarities using both the lagna for the native becos of the kind of placement of planets in houses, but 2 things are not being justified Meena lagna, one is stinging by scorpio and having a kind,supportive and well placed elder brother. The other minor thing is, he has natural liking for worshipping the Sun God. regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Prabodh Vekhande " <amolmandar wrote: > > Dear Lalit Namaste > > Chandra Navmansha usually gives good indications regarding physical > aspects of a person along with Navmansha Lagna Lord. You said that > the person is handsome which is indicated by the Chandra rashi Tula > and Chandra Navmansha Mithuna. The Navmansha lagna lord gives hint > for scanty or short hair. Meena lagna can as well justify he enjoying > girls company. 9th lord being in 7th may waste his degree education. > So I feel that his meena lagna can be correct and his actual time may > be 8.12.02 pm. > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. > > Prabodh Vekhande > Jai Jai Shankar > Har Har Shankar > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > Classics mention complicated methods of Birth Time Correction, I > found > > this native's horoscope needs correction, his known horoscope > looked a > > wrong one to me. > > > > Corrected Horoscope (In My Opinion) > > Incorrect Horoscope > > > > > > > > Time : 7:50 PM , > > Time : 8:10 PM > > Date : 18-Aug- 1980 > > Date : 18-Aug- 1980 > > Bilaspur, Chhatisgarh, > India > > Bilaspur, Chhatisgarh, India > > > > (1) > > (2) > > > > Clues : He is tall, very handsom with sharp features, particularly > > nose, MBA but was not serious in studies, enjoyed beautiful girl's > > company during studies, stung by scorpio in July 2002 and have got > a > > very nice supporting elder brother, had met an accident in May > 2006. Not > > doing good at Job front, very ambitous but not a hard worker, > blessed > > with a sweet voice. > > > > I changed the lagna from Pisces to Aquarious, it satisfies the tall > > body, jupitor's aspect gives him gracious look and sun makes him > slim as > > well as sharp, however in case of 2nd horoscope, his being tall and > > slim also gets satisfied because of Mars + Saturn's aspect on > lagna, > > however, his fair color was an exception leading to correction of > birth > > data. > > > > A supporting elder brother is another clue, in the first chart, > 11'th > > lord Jupitor is placed in 7'th house thus a good elder brother who > is > > helping him to improve upon his personality, in the 2nd horoscope > ketu > > is prsent in 11'th house however, Saturn the 11'th lord is placed in > > 7'th house is afflicted by Mars, rejects the idea of haing a good > > brother. > > > > He is an intelligent guy and a very good host to guests, but he > failed > > to exploit his intelligence for his own good, 5'th lord mercury's > > placement in 6'th house justifies both, mercury's aspect to 12'th > hosue > > makes one a superb host, rahu excelerates mercury's auspeciousness > > (exception) but both are present in 6'th house in 1st chart so, he > > failed in using his caliber, in the 2nd horoscope too 5'th lord moon > > placed in 8'th house, so, this, factor alone doesnt make a > distinction > > coz badly placed moon disables him from using his mind. > > > > but where is the clue, he was stung by scorpio, so i looked at > Rahu, in > > the 1st chart, Rahu is placed in 6'th house and during Sani - Rahu > he > > was stung. he has a very good nature though sometimes he is fiery > too, > > Sani + Mangal in 8'th house can give such a fire to him but this is > > fairly possible in 2nd horoscope too, so, next I looked at his > > possession of vehicles, 4'th lord Venus's placement in 5'th house > > explains this and he is very dear to his mom, both venu and moon > > supports mother's love to him and 9'th lord's placement in 5'th > house > > further denotes inclinations satvik helping nature as well as > interest > > in religious activities. His handwriting is not god and he is lazy > in > > writing, 3'rd lor mars's placement in 8'th house and having aspect > of > > Mars as well as Saturn explained his bad handwriting. > > > > So, I decided upon the 1'st horoscope as correct one, w'd like to > have > > ur's opinion on this excercise. > > > > regards, > > Lalit > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAMAUM GURUBYO NAMAHDear Shri Prabodh ji & Lalit Mishra ji,Namaste. May i write a few lines! i felt the discussion interesting.Chapter IV Quarter I of Jaimini Sutras speak of stronger among Lagna, Sun & Moon should be seen for hints relating to physical body. In the instant case we find Sun is obviously stronger and its placement in Mesha Navamsa gives hint about sparse hair.If you have the lagna as Meena, then the varnada lagna falls in Thula while the lagna in Kumbha makes the Varnada lagna fall in Kanya. Chapter IV quarter I of Jaimini sutras says if the Varnada lagna is found placed in 2nd either from lagna or from Sun and has the conjunction of many malefics the native has many beautiful women. This factor is seen when the lagna is taken as Kumbha. Moreover this Kumbha lagna has the backing of Venusian amsa(Kumba lagna in rasi is the place where we find Venus in navamsa). This facilitates the conditional dasa Dwadasottari to operate. This is a fascinating dasa which speaks of thithi/relationship. In this case the native is born on Sukla ashtami(ruled by Rahu) a Jaya thithi which is ghataka to Simha, Dhanur and Kumbha. His Arudha lagna is likely to fall in Dhanur if we consider Kumbha as his lagna. Atmakaraka Mars in Kanya shortens relationships plans/causes quick changes in relationship patterns/plans!As regards drowning/falling into water, see the 3rd/8th placements from Arudha lagna. We have Buda and Rahu placed in 8th from Arudha lagna. See the amsas of Buda and Rahu. We have Moon in the amsa of Buda in Mithuna. This placement of Moon in dual navamsa gives the hint of falling into a tank(chara navamsa gives the hint of drowning in sea; sthira navamsa - well). The native was running the period of Rahu and Moon as per dwadasottari dasa when he fell into a tank!His Mithuna navamsa lagna where Moon is posited gives hint about his musical voice/sweet voice.Buda is the kaala lord in the diagram. i think the karaka karana would be taitula(ruled by Buda)!!. This can cause hurdles in career front. Moreover the native is born in vishti karana. For all those who are born in this karana(vishti/bhadra) the presence of Moon in karka, simha, kumbha and meena in general causes trouble. His Moon is found placed in Karka in dasamsa! As per dwadasottari dasa scheme he is presently running the dasa of Mars(the Atmakaraka) and the Moon the Amatya karaka. Chanting the Mahamantra(Hare Krsna Hare Krsna Krsna Krsna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare) during the Rahu Kala period on all wednesdays would be helpful.Please try the time 19hrs 48 minutes and 50 secs. Presence of Atmakaraka Mars in Kanya kshetra is not favorable as it leads him into wrong directions. i am sorry if you feel that i should not come in between the discussion!Let me stop here.Best wishes.May Mother Bless.Astrologically & spiritually yours,p.s.ramanarayanan.Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol" <litsol wrote:>> Dear Prabodh Ji,> > Namaskaar, Yes, there have been lot many similarities using both the > lagna for the native becos of the kind of placement of planets in > houses, but 2 things are not being justified Meena lagna, one is > stinging by scorpio and having a kind,supportive and well placed > elder brother. The other minor thing is, he has natural liking for > worshipping the Sun God.> > > regards,> Lalit.> > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "Prabodh Vekhande" > amolmandar@ wrote:> >> > Dear Lalit Namaste> > > > Chandra Navmansha usually gives good indications regarding physical > > aspects of a person along with Navmansha Lagna Lord. You said that > > the person is handsome which is indicated by the Chandra rashi Tula > > and Chandra Navmansha Mithuna. The Navmansha lagna lord gives hint > > for scanty or short hair. Meena lagna can as well justify he > enjoying > > girls company. 9th lord being in 7th may waste his degree > education. > > So I feel that his meena lagna can be correct and his actual time > may > > be 8.12.02 pm. > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space.> > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > Jai Jai Shankar> > Har Har Shankar> > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol" > > <litsol@> wrote:> > >> > > > > > Classics mention complicated methods of Birth Time Correction, I > > found> > > this native's horoscope needs correction, his known horoscope > > looked a> > > wrong one to me.> > > > > > Corrected Horoscope (In My Opinion) > > > Incorrect Horoscope> > > > > > > > > > > > Time : 7:50 PM ,> > > Time : 8:10 PM> > > Date : 18-Aug- 1980> > > Date : 18-Aug- 1980> > > Bilaspur, Chhatisgarh, > > India > > > Bilaspur, Chhatisgarh, India> > > > > > (1)> > > (2)> > > > > > Clues : He is tall, very handsom with sharp features, > particularly> > > nose, MBA but was not serious in studies, enjoyed beautiful girl's> > > company during studies, stung by scorpio in July 2002 and have > got > > a> > > very nice supporting elder brother, had met an accident in May > > 2006. Not> > > doing good at Job front, very ambitous but not a hard worker, > > blessed> > > with a sweet voice.> > > > > > I changed the lagna from Pisces to Aquarious, it satisfies the > tall> > > body, jupitor's aspect gives him gracious look and sun makes him > > slim as> > > well as sharp, however in case of 2nd horoscope, his being tall > and> > > slim also gets satisfied because of Mars + Saturn's aspect on > > lagna,> > > however, his fair color was an exception leading to correction of > > birth> > > data.> > > > > > A supporting elder brother is another clue, in the first chart, > > 11'th> > > lord Jupitor is placed in 7'th house thus a good elder brother > who > > is> > > helping him to improve upon his personality, in the 2nd horoscope > > ketu> > > is prsent in 11'th house however, Saturn the 11'th lord is placed > in> > > 7'th house is afflicted by Mars, rejects the idea of haing a good> > > brother.> > > > > > He is an intelligent guy and a very good host to guests, but he > > failed> > > to exploit his intelligence for his own good, 5'th lord mercury's> > > placement in 6'th house justifies both, mercury's aspect to 12'th > > hosue> > > makes one a superb host, rahu excelerates mercury's auspeciousness> > > (exception) but both are present in 6'th house in 1st chart so, he> > > failed in using his caliber, in the 2nd horoscope too 5'th lord > moon> > > placed in 8'th house, so, this, factor alone doesnt make a > > distinction> > > coz badly placed moon disables him from using his mind.> > > > > > but where is the clue, he was stung by scorpio, so i looked at > > Rahu, in> > > the 1st chart, Rahu is placed in 6'th house and during Sani - > Rahu > > he> > > was stung. he has a very good nature though sometimes he is fiery > > too, > > > Sani + Mangal in 8'th house can give such a fire to him but this > is> > > fairly possible in 2nd horoscope too, so, next I looked at his> > > possession of vehicles, 4'th lord Venus's placement in 5'th house> > > explains this and he is very dear to his mom, both venu and moon> > > supports mother's love to him and 9'th lord's placement in 5'th > > house> > > further denotes inclinations satvik helping nature as well as > > interest> > > in religious activities. His handwriting is not god and he is > lazy > > in> > > writing, 3'rd lor mars's placement in 8'th house and having > aspect > > of> > > Mars as well as Saturn explained his bad handwriting.> > > > > > So, I decided upon the 1'st horoscope as correct one, w'd like to > > have> > > ur's opinion on this excercise.> > > > > > regards,> > > Lalit> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 Resp Sri Ramanarayanan Ji, Like always it was again a blessing to read a mail from u, I will take the time as 19hrs 48 minutes and 50 secs and I will inform him to recite the mahamantra in the rahu kaala. regards, Lalit Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " <sree88ganesha wrote: > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > Dear Shri Prabodh ji & Lalit Mishra ji, > > Namaste. May i write a few lines! i felt the discussion interesting. > > Chapter IV Quarter I of Jaimini Sutras speak of stronger among Lagna, > Sun & Moon should be seen for hints relating to physical body. In the > instant case we find Sun is obviously stronger and its placement in > Mesha Navamsa gives hint about sparse hair. > > If you have the lagna as Meena, then the varnada lagna falls in Thula > while the lagna in Kumbha makes the Varnada lagna fall in Kanya. Chapter > IV quarter I of Jaimini sutras says if the Varnada lagna is found placed > in 2nd either from lagna or from Sun and has the conjunction of many > malefics the native has many beautiful women. This factor is seen when > the lagna is taken as Kumbha. Moreover this Kumbha lagna has the backing > of Venusian amsa(Kumba lagna in rasi is the place where we find Venus in > navamsa). This facilitates the conditional dasa Dwadasottari to operate. > This is a fascinating dasa which speaks of thithi/relationship. In this > case the native is born on Sukla ashtami(ruled by Rahu) a Jaya thithi > which is ghataka to Simha, Dhanur and Kumbha. His Arudha lagna is likely > to fall in Dhanur if we consider Kumbha as his lagna. Atmakaraka Mars in > Kanya shortens relationships plans/causes quick changes in relationship > patterns/plans! > > As regards drowning/falling into water, see the 3rd/8th placements from > Arudha lagna. We have Buda and Rahu placed in 8th from Arudha lagna. > See the amsas of Buda and Rahu. We have Moon in the amsa of Buda in > Mithuna. This placement of Moon in dual navamsa gives the hint of > falling into a tank(chara navamsa gives the hint of drowning in sea; > sthira navamsa - well). The native was running the period of Rahu and > Moon as per dwadasottari dasa when he fell into a tank! > > His Mithuna navamsa lagna where Moon is posited gives hint about his > musical voice/sweet voice. > > Buda is the kaala lord in the diagram. i think the karaka karana would > be taitula(ruled by Buda)!!. This can cause hurdles in career front. > Moreover the native is born in vishti karana. For all those who are born > in this karana(vishti/bhadra) the presence of Moon in karka, simha, > kumbha and meena in general causes trouble. His Moon is found placed in > Karka in dasamsa! As per dwadasottari dasa scheme he is presently > running the dasa of Mars(the Atmakaraka) and the Moon the Amatya karaka. > Chanting the Mahamantra(Hare Krsna Hare Krsna Krsna Krsna Hare Hare Hare > Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare) during the Rahu Kala period on all > wednesdays would be helpful. > > Please try the time 19hrs 48 minutes and 50 secs. Presence of Atmakaraka > Mars in Kanya kshetra is not favorable as it leads him into wrong > directions. > > i am sorry if you feel that i should not come in between the discussion! > > Let me stop here. > > Best wishes. > > May Mother Bless. > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Prabodh Ji, > > > > Namaskaar, Yes, there have been lot many similarities using both the > > lagna for the native becos of the kind of placement of planets in > > houses, but 2 things are not being justified Meena lagna, one is > > stinging by scorpio and having a kind,supportive and well placed > > elder brother. The other minor thing is, he has natural liking for > > worshipping the Sun God. > > > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Prabodh Vekhande " > > amolmandar@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lalit Namaste > > > > > > Chandra Navmansha usually gives good indications regarding physical > > > aspects of a person along with Navmansha Lagna Lord. You said that > > > the person is handsome which is indicated by the Chandra rashi Tula > > > and Chandra Navmansha Mithuna. The Navmansha lagna lord gives hint > > > for scanty or short hair. Meena lagna can as well justify he > > enjoying > > > girls company. 9th lord being in 7th may waste his degree > > education. > > > So I feel that his meena lagna can be correct and his actual time > > may > > > be 8.12.02 pm. > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > Jai Jai Shankar > > > Har Har Shankar > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Classics mention complicated methods of Birth Time Correction, I > > > found > > > > this native's horoscope needs correction, his known horoscope > > > looked a > > > > wrong one to me. > > > > > > > > Corrected Horoscope (In My Opinion) > > > > Incorrect Horoscope > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time : 7:50 PM , > > > > Time : 8:10 PM > > > > Date : 18-Aug- 1980 > > > > Date : 18-Aug- 1980 > > > > Bilaspur, Chhatisgarh, > > > India > > > > Bilaspur, Chhatisgarh, India > > > > > > > > (1) > > > > (2) > > > > > > > > Clues : He is tall, very handsom with sharp features, > > particularly > > > > nose, MBA but was not serious in studies, enjoyed beautiful girl's > > > > company during studies, stung by scorpio in July 2002 and have > > got > > > a > > > > very nice supporting elder brother, had met an accident in May > > > 2006. Not > > > > doing good at Job front, very ambitous but not a hard worker, > > > blessed > > > > with a sweet voice. > > > > > > > > I changed the lagna from Pisces to Aquarious, it satisfies the > > tall > > > > body, jupitor's aspect gives him gracious look and sun makes him > > > slim as > > > > well as sharp, however in case of 2nd horoscope, his being tall > > and > > > > slim also gets satisfied because of Mars + Saturn's aspect on > > > lagna, > > > > however, his fair color was an exception leading to correction of > > > birth > > > > data. > > > > > > > > A supporting elder brother is another clue, in the first chart, > > > 11'th > > > > lord Jupitor is placed in 7'th house thus a good elder brother > > who > > > is > > > > helping him to improve upon his personality, in the 2nd horoscope > > > ketu > > > > is prsent in 11'th house however, Saturn the 11'th lord is placed > > in > > > > 7'th house is afflicted by Mars, rejects the idea of haing a good > > > > brother. > > > > > > > > He is an intelligent guy and a very good host to guests, but he > > > failed > > > > to exploit his intelligence for his own good, 5'th lord mercury's > > > > placement in 6'th house justifies both, mercury's aspect to 12'th > > > hosue > > > > makes one a superb host, rahu excelerates mercury's auspeciousness > > > > (exception) but both are present in 6'th house in 1st chart so, he > > > > failed in using his caliber, in the 2nd horoscope too 5'th lord > > moon > > > > placed in 8'th house, so, this, factor alone doesnt make a > > > distinction > > > > coz badly placed moon disables him from using his mind. > > > > > > > > but where is the clue, he was stung by scorpio, so i looked at > > > Rahu, in > > > > the 1st chart, Rahu is placed in 6'th house and during Sani - > > Rahu > > > he > > > > was stung. he has a very good nature though sometimes he is fiery > > > too, > > > > Sani + Mangal in 8'th house can give such a fire to him but this > > is > > > > fairly possible in 2nd horoscope too, so, next I looked at his > > > > possession of vehicles, 4'th lord Venus's placement in 5'th house > > > > explains this and he is very dear to his mom, both venu and moon > > > > supports mother's love to him and 9'th lord's placement in 5'th > > > house > > > > further denotes inclinations satvik helping nature as well as > > > interest > > > > in religious activities. His handwriting is not god and he is > > lazy > > > in > > > > writing, 3'rd lor mars's placement in 8'th house and having > > aspect > > > of > > > > Mars as well as Saturn explained his bad handwriting. > > > > > > > > So, I decided upon the 1'st horoscope as correct one, w'd like to > > > have > > > > ur's opinion on this excercise. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 Ramanarayan ji Namaste Thanks for writting to me. As usual it takes time to understand your mail! Since you said that Kumbha lagna is correct it will be Kumbha lagna. I am sure about it but just for learning purpose I have some questions. Do we really require to see Varanada Lagana for a chart that is 28 years old! I thought that VL works with Grihasta(i.e. Who is stable with profession and education). The jatak of the chart was collage going youth few years back and possibly has not confornted with institution of marriage. Rahu in 5th with Mercury and only Malefics aspecting Lagna and Lagna Lord may indicate his lazy attitude towrds life. Another point is that with Kumbha lagna elder brother is indicated by Ju which happens to be in Simha. So there is very chance he may guide the jatak properly. With Sa-Ke going in 92-93 he had life danger as Sa is 12th/11th lord and Ke is associated with AL. Again in Me-Me he had accident as Me is opposed to AL and conjunct Ra. So I feel it is too early to confirm unless we have some additional info regarding is childhood and status of parrents. But I am accepting your time and store this chart with this new time!. Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. Prabodh Vekhande Jai Jai SHankar Har Har Shankar P.S. WHat is this Chara/Sthira/Dwisvabhava and Water storage? Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sree88ganesha " <sree88ganesha wrote: > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > Dear Shri Prabodh ji & Lalit Mishra ji, > > Namaste. May i write a few lines! i felt the discussion interesting. > > Chapter IV Quarter I of Jaimini Sutras speak of stronger among Lagna, > Sun & Moon should be seen for hints relating to physical body. In the > instant case we find Sun is obviously stronger and its placement in > Mesha Navamsa gives hint about sparse hair. > > If you have the lagna as Meena, then the varnada lagna falls in Thula > while the lagna in Kumbha makes the Varnada lagna fall in Kanya. Chapter > IV quarter I of Jaimini sutras says if the Varnada lagna is found placed > in 2nd either from lagna or from Sun and has the conjunction of many > malefics the native has many beautiful women. This factor is seen when > the lagna is taken as Kumbha. Moreover this Kumbha lagna has the backing > of Venusian amsa(Kumba lagna in rasi is the place where we find Venus in > navamsa). This facilitates the conditional dasa Dwadasottari to operate. > This is a fascinating dasa which speaks of thithi/relationship. In this > case the native is born on Sukla ashtami(ruled by Rahu) a Jaya thithi > which is ghataka to Simha, Dhanur and Kumbha. His Arudha lagna is likely > to fall in Dhanur if we consider Kumbha as his lagna. Atmakaraka Mars in > Kanya shortens relationships plans/causes quick changes in relationship > patterns/plans! > > As regards drowning/falling into water, see the 3rd/8th placements from > Arudha lagna. We have Buda and Rahu placed in 8th from Arudha lagna. > See the amsas of Buda and Rahu. We have Moon in the amsa of Buda in > Mithuna. This placement of Moon in dual navamsa gives the hint of > falling into a tank(chara navamsa gives the hint of drowning in sea; > sthira navamsa - well). The native was running the period of Rahu and > Moon as per dwadasottari dasa when he fell into a tank! > > His Mithuna navamsa lagna where Moon is posited gives hint about his > musical voice/sweet voice. > > Buda is the kaala lord in the diagram. i think the karaka karana would > be taitula(ruled by Buda)!!. This can cause hurdles in career front. > Moreover the native is born in vishti karana. For all those who are born > in this karana(vishti/bhadra) the presence of Moon in karka, simha, > kumbha and meena in general causes trouble. His Moon is found placed in > Karka in dasamsa! As per dwadasottari dasa scheme he is presently > running the dasa of Mars(the Atmakaraka) and the Moon the Amatya karaka. > Chanting the Mahamantra(Hare Krsna Hare Krsna Krsna Krsna Hare Hare Hare > Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare) during the Rahu Kala period on all > wednesdays would be helpful. > > Please try the time 19hrs 48 minutes and 50 secs. Presence of Atmakaraka > Mars in Kanya kshetra is not favorable as it leads him into wrong > directions. > > i am sorry if you feel that i should not come in between the discussion! > > Let me stop here. > > Best wishes. > > May Mother Bless. > > Astrologically & spiritually yours, > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Prabodh Ji, > > > > Namaskaar, Yes, there have been lot many similarities using both the > > lagna for the native becos of the kind of placement of planets in > > houses, but 2 things are not being justified Meena lagna, one is > > stinging by scorpio and having a kind,supportive and well placed > > elder brother. The other minor thing is, he has natural liking for > > worshipping the Sun God. > > > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Prabodh Vekhande " > > amolmandar@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lalit Namaste > > > > > > Chandra Navmansha usually gives good indications regarding physical > > > aspects of a person along with Navmansha Lagna Lord. You said that > > > the person is handsome which is indicated by the Chandra rashi Tula > > > and Chandra Navmansha Mithuna. The Navmansha lagna lord gives hint > > > for scanty or short hair. Meena lagna can as well justify he > > enjoying > > > girls company. 9th lord being in 7th may waste his degree > > education. > > > So I feel that his meena lagna can be correct and his actual time > > may > > > be 8.12.02 pm. > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > Jai Jai Shankar > > > Har Har Shankar > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > > > <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Classics mention complicated methods of Birth Time Correction, I > > > found > > > > this native's horoscope needs correction, his known horoscope > > > looked a > > > > wrong one to me. > > > > > > > > Corrected Horoscope (In My Opinion) > > > > Incorrect Horoscope > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time : 7:50 PM , > > > > Time : 8:10 PM > > > > Date : 18-Aug- 1980 > > > > Date : 18-Aug- 1980 > > > > Bilaspur, Chhatisgarh, > > > India > > > > Bilaspur, Chhatisgarh, India > > > > > > > > (1) > > > > (2) > > > > > > > > Clues : He is tall, very handsom with sharp features, > > particularly > > > > nose, MBA but was not serious in studies, enjoyed beautiful girl's > > > > company during studies, stung by scorpio in July 2002 and have > > got > > > a > > > > very nice supporting elder brother, had met an accident in May > > > 2006. Not > > > > doing good at Job front, very ambitous but not a hard worker, > > > blessed > > > > with a sweet voice. > > > > > > > > I changed the lagna from Pisces to Aquarious, it satisfies the > > tall > > > > body, jupitor's aspect gives him gracious look and sun makes him > > > slim as > > > > well as sharp, however in case of 2nd horoscope, his being tall > > and > > > > slim also gets satisfied because of Mars + Saturn's aspect on > > > lagna, > > > > however, his fair color was an exception leading to correction of > > > birth > > > > data. > > > > > > > > A supporting elder brother is another clue, in the first chart, > > > 11'th > > > > lord Jupitor is placed in 7'th house thus a good elder brother > > who > > > is > > > > helping him to improve upon his personality, in the 2nd horoscope > > > ketu > > > > is prsent in 11'th house however, Saturn the 11'th lord is placed > > in > > > > 7'th house is afflicted by Mars, rejects the idea of haing a good > > > > brother. > > > > > > > > He is an intelligent guy and a very good host to guests, but he > > > failed > > > > to exploit his intelligence for his own good, 5'th lord mercury's > > > > placement in 6'th house justifies both, mercury's aspect to 12'th > > > hosue > > > > makes one a superb host, rahu excelerates mercury's auspeciousness > > > > (exception) but both are present in 6'th house in 1st chart so, he > > > > failed in using his caliber, in the 2nd horoscope too 5'th lord > > moon > > > > placed in 8'th house, so, this, factor alone doesnt make a > > > distinction > > > > coz badly placed moon disables him from using his mind. > > > > > > > > but where is the clue, he was stung by scorpio, so i looked at > > > Rahu, in > > > > the 1st chart, Rahu is placed in 6'th house and during Sani - > > Rahu > > > he > > > > was stung. he has a very good nature though sometimes he is fiery > > > too, > > > > Sani + Mangal in 8'th house can give such a fire to him but this > > is > > > > fairly possible in 2nd horoscope too, so, next I looked at his > > > > possession of vehicles, 4'th lord Venus's placement in 5'th house > > > > explains this and he is very dear to his mom, both venu and moon > > > > supports mother's love to him and 9'th lord's placement in 5'th > > > house > > > > further denotes inclinations satvik helping nature as well as > > > interest > > > > in religious activities. His handwriting is not god and he is > > lazy > > > in > > > > writing, 3'rd lor mars's placement in 8'th house and having > > aspect > > > of > > > > Mars as well as Saturn explained his bad handwriting. > > > > > > > > So, I decided upon the 1'st horoscope as correct one, w'd like to > > > have > > > > ur's opinion on this excercise. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAMAUM GURUBYO NAMAHDear Shri Lalit Mishra ji & Prabodh ji,Namaste. Thank you for your responses.Prabodh ji,i shall try to improve my English and expression so that it facilitates the understanding(May Mother Bless me in this regard). i had only placed a request to try 19Hrs 48mts and 50 secs time - you need not accept it as it is! Please go ahead with your tests.You had asked as to why we should look into Varnada Lagna for a 28 year old jataka - This 28 years you had mentioned is indeed the maturity age of Mars who happens to be the Atmakaraka of the native, who is placed in Kanya kshetra, where we are trying to locate Varnada lagna. The native is facing problem in career front is it not? See who is the lord of Varnada lagna - he is Buda placed along with Rahu in Karka - this Buda is the Kaala Lord who is associated with Venus & Rahu in Kumbha in navamsa and is the sign dispositor of Venus & Sun in Siddhamsa - this explains the situation for not being able to put MBA into practical utility through career front.Let me stop here - shall continue later.Best wishes.May Mother Bless.Astrologically & spiritually yours,p.s.ramanarayanan.Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "Prabodh Vekhande" <amolmandar wrote:>> Ramanarayan ji Namaste> > Thanks for writting to me. As usual it takes time to understand your > mail! Since you said that Kumbha lagna is correct it will be Kumbha > lagna. I am sure about it but just for learning purpose I have some > questions. > Do we really require to see Varanada Lagana for a chart that is 28 > years old! I thought that VL works with Grihasta(i.e. Who is stable > with profession and education). The jatak of the chart was collage > going youth few years back and possibly has not confornted with > institution of marriage. Rahu in 5th with Mercury and only Malefics > aspecting Lagna and Lagna Lord may indicate his lazy attitude towrds > life. > Another point is that with Kumbha lagna elder brother is indicated by > Ju which happens to be in Simha. So there is very chance he may guide > the jatak properly. With Sa-Ke going in 92-93 he had life danger as > Sa is 12th/11th lord and Ke is associated with AL. Again in Me-Me he > had accident as Me is opposed to AL and conjunct Ra. > > So I feel it is too early to confirm unless we have some additional > info regarding is childhood and status of parrents. But I am > accepting your time and store this chart with this new time!.> > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space.> > Prabodh Vekhande> Jai Jai SHankar> Har Har Shankar> > P.S. WHat is this Chara/Sthira/Dwisvabhava and Water storage?> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "sree88ganesha" > sree88ganesha@ wrote:> >> > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM> > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH> > > > Dear Shri Prabodh ji & Lalit Mishra ji,> > > > Namaste. May i write a few lines! i felt the discussion > interesting.> > > > Chapter IV Quarter I of Jaimini Sutras speak of stronger among > Lagna,> > Sun & Moon should be seen for hints relating to physical body. In > the> > instant case we find Sun is obviously stronger and its placement in> > Mesha Navamsa gives hint about sparse hair.> > > > If you have the lagna as Meena, then the varnada lagna falls in > Thula> > while the lagna in Kumbha makes the Varnada lagna fall in Kanya. > Chapter> > IV quarter I of Jaimini sutras says if the Varnada lagna is found > placed> > in 2nd either from lagna or from Sun and has the conjunction of many> > malefics the native has many beautiful women. This factor is seen > when> > the lagna is taken as Kumbha. Moreover this Kumbha lagna has the > backing> > of Venusian amsa(Kumba lagna in rasi is the place where we find > Venus in> > navamsa). This facilitates the conditional dasa Dwadasottari to > operate.> > This is a fascinating dasa which speaks of thithi/relationship. In > this> > case the native is born on Sukla ashtami(ruled by Rahu) a Jaya > thithi> > which is ghataka to Simha, Dhanur and Kumbha. His Arudha lagna is > likely> > to fall in Dhanur if we consider Kumbha as his lagna. Atmakaraka > Mars in> > Kanya shortens relationships plans/causes quick changes in > relationship> > patterns/plans!> > > > As regards drowning/falling into water, see the 3rd/8th placements > from> > Arudha lagna. We have Buda and Rahu placed in 8th from Arudha > lagna. > > See the amsas of Buda and Rahu. We have Moon in the amsa of Buda in> > Mithuna. This placement of Moon in dual navamsa gives the hint of> > falling into a tank(chara navamsa gives the hint of drowning in sea;> > sthira navamsa - well). The native was running the period of Rahu > and> > Moon as per dwadasottari dasa when he fell into a tank!> > > > His Mithuna navamsa lagna where Moon is posited gives hint about his> > musical voice/sweet voice.> > > > Buda is the kaala lord in the diagram. i think the karaka karana > would> > be taitula(ruled by Buda)!!. This can cause hurdles in career front.> > Moreover the native is born in vishti karana. For all those who are > born> > in this karana(vishti/bhadra) the presence of Moon in karka, simha,> > kumbha and meena in general causes trouble. His Moon is found > placed in> > Karka in dasamsa! As per dwadasottari dasa scheme he is presently> > running the dasa of Mars(the Atmakaraka) and the Moon the Amatya > karaka.> > Chanting the Mahamantra(Hare Krsna Hare Krsna Krsna Krsna Hare Hare > Hare> > Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare) during the Rahu Kala period on > all> > wednesdays would be helpful.> > > > Please try the time 19hrs 48 minutes and 50 secs. Presence of > Atmakaraka> > Mars in Kanya kshetra is not favorable as it leads him into wrong> > directions.> > > > i am sorry if you feel that i should not come in between the > discussion!> > > > Let me stop here.> > > > Best wishes.> > > > May Mother Bless.> > > > Astrologically & spiritually yours,> > p.s.ramanarayanan.> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol" <litsol@>> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Prabodh Ji,> > >> > > Namaskaar, Yes, there have been lot many similarities using both > the> > > lagna for the native becos of the kind of placement of planets in> > > houses, but 2 things are not being justified Meena lagna, one is> > > stinging by scorpio and having a kind,supportive and well placed> > > elder brother. The other minor thing is, he has natural liking for> > > worshipping the Sun God.> > >> > >> > > regards,> > > Lalit.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "Prabodh > Vekhande"> > > amolmandar@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Lalit Namaste> > > >> > > > Chandra Navmansha usually gives good indications regarding > physical> > > > aspects of a person along with Navmansha Lagna Lord. You said > that> > > > the person is handsome which is indicated by the Chandra rashi > Tula> > > > and Chandra Navmansha Mithuna. The Navmansha lagna lord gives > hint> > > > for scanty or short hair. Meena lagna can as well justify he> > > enjoying> > > > girls company. 9th lord being in 7th may waste his degree> > > education.> > > > So I feel that his meena lagna can be correct and his actual > time> > > may> > > > be 8.12.02 pm.> > > >> > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space.> > > >> > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > > > Jai Jai Shankar> > > > Har Har Shankar> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol"> > > > <litsol@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Classics mention complicated methods of Birth Time > Correction, I> > > > found> > > > > this native's horoscope needs correction, his known horoscope> > > > looked a> > > > > wrong one to me.> > > > >> > > > > Corrected Horoscope (In My Opinion)> > > > > Incorrect Horoscope> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Time : 7:50 PM ,> > > > > Time : 8:10 PM> > > > > Date : 18-Aug- 1980> > > > > Date : 18-Aug- 1980> > > > > Bilaspur, Chhatisgarh,> > > > India> > > > > Bilaspur, Chhatisgarh, India> > > > >> > > > > (1)> > > > > (2)> > > > >> > > > > Clues : He is tall, very handsom with sharp features,> > > particularly> > > > > nose, MBA but was not serious in studies, enjoyed beautiful > girl's> > > > > company during studies, stung by scorpio in July 2002 and > have> > > got> > > > a> > > > > very nice supporting elder brother, had met an accident in May> > > > 2006. Not> > > > > doing good at Job front, very ambitous but not a hard worker,> > > > blessed> > > > > with a sweet voice.> > > > >> > > > > I changed the lagna from Pisces to Aquarious, it satisfies the> > > tall> > > > > body, jupitor's aspect gives him gracious look and sun makes > him> > > > slim as> > > > > well as sharp, however in case of 2nd horoscope, his being > tall> > > and> > > > > slim also gets satisfied because of Mars + Saturn's aspect on> > > > lagna,> > > > > however, his fair color was an exception leading to > correction of> > > > birth> > > > > data.> > > > >> > > > > A supporting elder brother is another clue, in the first > chart,> > > > 11'th> > > > > lord Jupitor is placed in 7'th house thus a good elder brother> > > who> > > > is> > > > > helping him to improve upon his personality, in the 2nd > horoscope> > > > ketu> > > > > is prsent in 11'th house however, Saturn the 11'th lord is > placed> > > in> > > > > 7'th house is afflicted by Mars, rejects the idea of haing a > good> > > > > brother.> > > > >> > > > > He is an intelligent guy and a very good host to guests, but > he> > > > failed> > > > > to exploit his intelligence for his own good, 5'th lord > mercury's> > > > > placement in 6'th house justifies both, mercury's aspect to > 12'th> > > > hosue> > > > > makes one a superb host, rahu excelerates mercury's > auspeciousness> > > > > (exception) but both are present in 6'th house in 1st chart > so, he> > > > > failed in using his caliber, in the 2nd horoscope too 5'th > lord> > > moon> > > > > placed in 8'th house, so, this, factor alone doesnt make a> > > > distinction> > > > > coz badly placed moon disables him from using his mind.> > > > >> > > > > but where is the clue, he was stung by scorpio, so i looked at> > > > Rahu, in> > > > > the 1st chart, Rahu is placed in 6'th house and during Sani -> > > Rahu> > > > he> > > > > was stung. he has a very good nature though sometimes he is > fiery> > > > too,> > > > > Sani + Mangal in 8'th house can give such a fire to him but > this> > > is> > > > > fairly possible in 2nd horoscope too, so, next I looked at his> > > > > possession of vehicles, 4'th lord Venus's placement in 5'th > house> > > > > explains this and he is very dear to his mom, both venu and > moon> > > > > supports mother's love to him and 9'th lord's placement in > 5'th> > > > house> > > > > further denotes inclinations satvik helping nature as well as> > > > interest> > > > > in religious activities. His handwriting is not god and he is> > > lazy> > > > in> > > > > writing, 3'rd lor mars's placement in 8'th house and having> > > aspect> > > > of> > > > > Mars as well as Saturn explained his bad handwriting.> > > > >> > > > > So, I decided upon the 1'st horoscope as correct one, w'd > like to> > > > have> > > > > ur's opinion on this excercise.> > > > >> > > > > regards,> > > > > Lalit> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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