Sapphire from Iceland (RK Da)

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Dear RKDa, Your mail made me ponder on the effects of Gems (quite apart from the usual increase in wealth/health that all professional Jyotishis claim) !! Some questions : (i) How did you arrive at the conclusion that Shani Maharaj is in the 9th in Alok Jagawat's chart ?? (ii)It would be interesting to know what combinations in a chart aid in 'Kundli Jaagran' . I shall be thankful for your

response on the above questions Regards, aavesh arkaydash <arkaydash wrote: Dear Aavesh,The post `gems and astrology' is itself a gem of a write-up. However. What Alok

Jagawat, the wearer of the perfect blue apphire, describes as "Unlike whatever is been mentioned in classics, I had a totally different experience" needs an explainer. The cool currents are but what the classics call `Shushumna-vahini prana' and the spinal meridians are the theatres of those sensations ("cold sensation" is not quite it). The `ice on head' part of the experience is but the clue that the narrator in his chart has Saturn (blue sapphire) as lord of the ninth house and/or is near that house. As for the yellow hue etc, that suggests that our vision of the world has been purified; we can now relate to people without any vikaar in our mind; so we see yellow aura around people we meet. The narrator underwent the experience of kundalini, most probably as his horoscopic Saturn (its effect, ie) got enhanced on wearinf the gem, because of its appropriate portfolio. With

another benefic's having to do with the houses surrounding the ninth house (ie, with 9th, 8th, 10th), the subperiod of Satrun, when in one of these houses, can impart one a kundalnini experience of the `ice on head' kind. Satrun-mediated kundlini flavour can be extra-cool. Sushumna-borne praana is ever cool, dull never, and can't be hot. That's Pingala's work. I might add a word for those who know this praana vidya and those who may have some degree of such exalted pranic play in their body and mind. The `sandarshan' can take place without a gem's aid. (There can be other horoscopic circumstances that can lead to similar experience, though.) RK

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Yes, Aavesh, I'll try to.

 

What I've written so far is from some quick reflections.

 

Let us approach the subject (kundalini vis-à-vis a birth chart) this way. K. is the coursing of prana in a non-dissipative, conserved way, following a three-tier cleansing, beginning with the body. Thus it is that: the body (the physical sheath) be 'without mal' (sharira be nirmal), chitta without vikshep, and manah without vikaar -- including the cessation of any hankering after a savouring of kundalini. Some say, k. is a culmination of the three-tier cleansing.

 

When these three conditions obtain, the slightest leg-up towards interiorization of prana can pull it (k.) off. The cleansing/removal (of mal, vikshep and vikaar) takes time and remain embedded in Time (for the individual). It can come about from sudden unfoldment of prarabdha though. But the particular prarabdha bala has to be there for the unfoldment. If someone is already born into a family that our tradition calls brahmin (or, suchinaa-shrimataam gehe…etc, in the Gita's parlence) that itself is prarabdha bala in this context.

 

As to the combination/pattern in a chart that conduces to such pranic play (that is how we have to understand it), the criteria are at best broad-based. So?

 

On your request, let me venture further. Let us have for the lagna (sharir), the planetary pattern that conduces to a clean body, that is, clean shrotra. In other words, cleanliness-inducing planets powering the lagna. The 9th house empowered enough to remove vikaar (impurities in ideas and beliefs), the 4th benefically poised for keeping one clear of vikaar. The moon (4th house corollary) held steady (ie, absence of flightiness or vikshep). Saturn is the planet for dhriti, the steadying planet. Thus enters the 8th house. Jupiter, the 9th ruler (lord of Sagi) in an apposite place to take good care of ideas and beliefs. The 8th house (and Saturn) to put ideas and beliefs through mysteries (the extra-mundane). The 4th house, where you hold yourself (breath included) steady, as much as the moon. The 1st house as much as the sun. Talking of planets: Jupiter, Saturn, moon, sun. Houses: 1st, 4th, 8th, 9th. Now throw in a measure of 12th house so that you may have a good reserve of the extra-mundane in your aspiration. Saturn enters the scene again as karaka of 12th. The houses getting enough power to operate well. Benefics (soumya) having a say on most of these houses -- aspect, lordshp etc. An example rider: Venus aspecting 12th will score over Venus placed in 12th. Reason is obvious. A number of such riders have to be admitted.

 

Look, this is like belling the cat. Not many can. I don't think I have been able to.

 

RK

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , aavesh t <aavesh_s wrote:>> Dear RKDa,> > Your mail made me ponder on the effects of Gems (quite apart from the usual increase in wealth/health that all professional Jyotishis claim) !!> > Some questions : (i) How did you arrive at the conclusion that Shani Maharaj is in the 9th in Alok Jagawat's chart ??> > (ii)It would be interesting to know what combinations in a chart aid in > 'Kundli Jaagran' .> > I shall be thankful for your response on the above questions> > Regards,> > aavesh> > > > arkaydash arkaydash wrote:> Dear Aavesh,> The post `gems and astrology' is itself a gem of a write-up. However.> What Alok Jagawat, the wearer of the perfect blue apphire, describes as "Unlike whatever is been mentioned in classics, I had a totally different experience" needs an explainer. > The cool currents are but what the classics call `Shushumna-vahini prana' and the spinal meridians are the theatres of those sensations ("cold sensation" is not quite it). The `ice on head' part of the experience is but the clue that the narrator in his chart has Saturn (blue sapphire) as lord of the ninth house and/or is near that house. As for the yellow hue etc, that suggests that our vision of the world has been purified; we can now relate to people without any vikaar in our mind; so we see yellow aura around people we meet. The narrator underwent the experience of kundalini, most probably as his horoscopic Saturn (its effect, ie) got enhanced on wearinf the gem, because of its appropriate portfolio. > With another benefic's having to do with the houses surrounding the ninth house (ie, with 9th, 8th, 10th), the subperiod of Satrun, when in one of these houses, can impart one a kundalnini experience of the `ice on head' kind. Satrun-mediated kundlini flavour can be extra-cool. Sushumna-borne praana is ever cool, dull never, and can't be hot. That's Pingala's work. > I might add a word for those who know this praana vidya and those who may have some degree of such exalted pranic play in their body and mind. The `sandarshan' can take place without a gem's aid. (There can be other horoscopic circumstances that can lead to similar experience, though.) > > RK> > > > > > > Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now.>