Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Dear Chandrashekarji and RKDa, Thanks for your comments. Chandrashekarji :You have rightly guessed that I do not advocate the methods mentioned in the article (as they leave too many questions unanswered) !! However,there are a couple of interesting points in the article viz recommending the gem of the 11th Lord (an unwise move in my view from the health point of view) I was looking for comments on this aspect in particular Regards, aavesh Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "arkaydash" <arkaydash wrote:>> Chandrashekharji, quite so. Moreover, being a genial soul, Aavesh > tends not to become too critical.> RK > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar > sharma.chandrashekhar@ wrote:> >> > Dear RK da,> > > > Thank you for your support to my views. I think Aavesh also must > have > > thought as we do and that is why he invited the comments.> > > > Regards,> > Chandrashekhar.> > > > > > arkaydash wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Chandrashekharji,> > >> > > You are absolutely right in so thinking of this. I once > expressed my> > > bafflement at "Yes- if> > > in good position" and "Yes- if in bad position". The enormity of > which> > > Aavesh couldn't appreciate then. If we are spilling our ink, we > must> > > resist any simplicisms and such charlatanry. My advice to Aavesh > is to> > > present a reasoned critique alongside any extract he may share > here.> > >> > > RK> > >> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, > Chandrashekhar> > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Aavesh,> > > >> > > > Personally, this is only what is to be expected of those with > a vested> > > > interest, in the matter being researched. What is being told is> > > methods> > > > of prescribing gems and that too in a very casual fashion > like "Yes-> > > if> > > > in good position" and "Yes- if in bad position". The research, > if you> > > > could call it that, does not have any conclusion about what is > the> > > right> > > > method, neither does it point to authenticity of the methods > used.> > > >> > > > The entire thrust of the research seems to be to justify > wearing of> > > any> > > > of the umpteen numbers of Precious and semi precious gems > available in> > > > the market, for every jataka.> > > >> > > > Chandrashekhar.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > aavesh t wrote:> > > > > Dear Lalit,Chandrashekarji,Ramanarayanji,Leonard and Group,> > > > >> > > > > Please read these tips from one of the premier Gemmologists > of the> > > > > world today> > > > >> > > > > Comments/feedback welcome as always> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > >> > > > > aavesh> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > *TEN PRIMARY GEM CHOOSING METHODS*> > > > > /*PGA survey results compiled by Richard S. Brown, GIA, PG*/> > > > > After a lot of interaction with different members of the PGA > we> > > > > have identified TEN GEM CHOOSING METHODS AS PRIMARY:> > > > > 1. *Lagna Lord's gem method:* For improving health (Example: > If> > > > > Lagna is Leo, a sign ruled by Sun, the gem would be ruby or > other> > > > > Sun gems like red spinel or red garnet),> > > > > ---Yes if the planet is located in a 'good' (strong) > position,> > > > > otherwise not.> > > > > ---Yes even if the planet is located in a 'bad' (weak) > position.> > > > > 2. *Moon Rasi Lord's gem method:* (Example: If Moon is in > Virgo, a> > > > > sign ruled by Mercury, then the gem would be emerald or > another> > > > > Mercury gem like tsavorite or green tourmaline);> > > > > ---Yes if the planet is located in a 'good' position, > otherwise not.> > > > > ---Yes even if the planet is located in a 'bad' position.> > > > > 3. *Maha-Dasha Lord's gem method:* For ...> > > > > a. Overcoming bad Dasha periods, or> > > > > b. Boosting good Dasha periods> > > > > (Example: If one is in a Mars Mahadasha or Bhukti then red > coral> > > > > or another Mars gem like red carnelian should be worn),> > > > > ---Yes if the planet is located in a 'good' position, > otherwise not.> > > > > ---Yes even if the planet is located in a 'bad' position.> > > > > 4. *Weak Planet's gem method:* For overcoming a weak planet > based> > > > > on the concept that a 'weak' (inauspicious) planet is > strengthened> > > > > by wearing it's gem and there by it changes from being> > > > > inauspicious (weak) to become auspicious (strong). Example: A> > > > > person has Jupiter debilitated (0% power) which is > inauspicious,> > > > > but by wearing yellow sapphire or another yellow Jupiter > jewel, it> > > > > is believed that the 'weak' (troublesome) Jupiter gets> > > > > strengthened and becomes auspicious.> > > > > 5. *Strong Planet's gem method:* For resorting to one's > strong> > > > > auspicious planet(s) (exalted, mulatrikona, own sign, great> > > > > friend, etc.) based on the concept that lucky planet = luck > gem!> > > > > One should avoid their 'weakness and cultivate their > strength.> > > > > Most auspicious gem of strongest most desirable planet. > Example:> > > > > One has Leo Lagna and their Lagna-lord is Sun, who is exalted> > > > > (100% strength) and posited in the 9^th house which is all > very> > > > > auspicious. That person would be advised to use a fine ruby, > the> > > > > Sun's gem, to attract or harness his auspicious influence. > On the> > > > > other hand if the same person had Saturn debilitated (0% > strength)> > > > > and in the 8^th house they would be advised to avoid > Saturn's gem> > > > > blue sapphire and all other Saturnine things or activities. > And> > > > > better still they could donate a blue sapphire to pacify > Shanideva.> > > > > 6) *Fadic number gem method:* Use a gem for the planet > associated> > > > > with one's Fadic number for general luck. (Example: If birth > date> > > > > is 1+13+1966 (1+1+3+1+9+6+6) equals T: 27 (2+7) = T: 9 = > cosmic> > > > > number for Mars (red coral).> > > > > Fadic Number/Planet/Gem List:> > > > > -1 is Sun - ruby> > > > > -2 is Moon - pearl (natural, not cultured)> > > > > -3 is Jupiter - yellow sapphire> > > > > -4 is Rahu - hessonite> > > > > -5 is Mercury - emerald> > > > > -6 is Venus - diamond> > > > > -7 is Ketu -- cat's eye> > > > > -8 is Saturn -- blue sapphire> > > > > -9 is Mars -- red coral> > > > > 7. *Gem of 11th lord method:* Eleventh lord's gem is to be > worn> > > > > for gains:> > > > > ---Yes if the 11th Lord (planet) is located in a 'good' > position,> > > > > otherwise not.> > > > > ---Yes even if the 11th Lord (planet) is located in a 'bad'> > > position.> > > > > 8. *Gem of 10th lord method:* To strengthen one's profession:> > > > > ---Yes if the 10th Lord (planet) is located in a 'good' > position,> > > > > otherwise not.> > > > > ---Yes even if the 10th Lord (planet) is located in a 'bad'> > > position.> > > > > 9. *Gem of 9th lord method:* For improving fortune, happiness> > > > > ---Yes if the 9th Lord (planet) is located in a 'good' > position,> > > > > otherwise not.> > > > > ---Yes even if the 9th Lord (planet) is located in a 'bad' > position.> > > > > 10. *Gem donation method: *It is taught that if a person has > a> > > > > very weak and inauspicious planet causing them harm, this > harmful> > > > > influence can be mitigated by pacifying the harmful planet> > > > > (Graha-deva) through a sacrifice by donating a gem for the > harmful> > > > > planet to a specified recipient. Example: A person who has > Rahu> > > > > posited in a harmful (weak) position and is in a troublesome > Rahu> > > > > Maha-Dasha would be advised to donate a hessonite or another > Rahu> > > > > gem to a leper on Saturday evening during the waxing Moon.> > > > > The purpose of this research is to help organize Planetary> > > > > Gemology into a recognized Vedic "science" with many distinct> > > > > schools of thought and methodology.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > -------------------------> > > > > Planet Earth is in the hot seat. Know more.> > > > >> > > > <http://in.rd./tagline_glue_2/*http://in.search./se> arc\> > > h? & fr=na_onnetwork_mail_taglines & ei=UTF-8 & rd=r1 & p=global+warming > > > > <http://in.rd./tagline_glue_2/*http://in.search./se> arch? & fr=na_onnetwork_mail_taglines & ei=UTF-8 & rd=r1 & p=global+warming>>> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Dear Aavesh, I for one would hesitate to recommend gem of 11th lord to wear for a Jataka. Chandrashekhar. aavesh_s wrote: Dear Chandrashekarji and RKDa, Thanks for your comments. Chandrashekarji :You have rightly guessed that I do not advocate the methods mentioned in the article (as they leave too many questions unanswered) !! However,there are a couple of interesting points in the article viz recommending the gem of the 11th Lord (an unwise move in my view from the health point of view) I was looking for comments on this aspect in particular Regards, aavesh Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "arkaydash" <arkaydash wrote: > > Chandrashekharji, quite so. Moreover, being a genial soul, Aavesh > tends not to become too critical. > RK > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar > sharma.chandrashekhar@ wrote: > > > > Dear RK da, > > > > Thank you for your support to my views. I think Aavesh also must > have > > thought as we do and that is why he invited the comments. > > > > Regards, > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > arkaydash wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekharji, > > > > > > You are absolutely right in so thinking of this. I once > expressed my > > > bafflement at "Yes- if > > > in good position" and "Yes- if in bad position". The enormity of > which > > > Aavesh couldn't appreciate then. If we are spilling our ink, we > must > > > resist any simplicisms and such charlatanry. My advice to Aavesh > is to > > > present a reasoned critique alongside any extract he may share > here. > > > > > > RK > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, > Chandrashekhar > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Aavesh, > > > > > > > > Personally, this is only what is to be expected of those with > a vested > > > > interest, in the matter being researched. What is being told is > > > methods > > > > of prescribing gems and that too in a very casual fashion > like "Yes- > > > if > > > > in good position" and "Yes- if in bad position". The research, > if you > > > > could call it that, does not have any conclusion about what is > the > > > right > > > > method, neither does it point to authenticity of the methods > used. > > > > > > > > The entire thrust of the research seems to be to justify > wearing of > > > any > > > > of the umpteen numbers of Precious and semi precious gems > available in > > > > the market, for every jataka. > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aavesh t wrote: > > > > > Dear Lalit,Chandrashekarji,Ramanarayanji,Leonard and Group, > > > > > > > > > > Please read these tips from one of the premier Gemmologists > of the > > > > > world today > > > > > > > > > > Comments/feedback welcome as always > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > aavesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *TEN PRIMARY GEM CHOOSING METHODS* > > > > > /*PGA survey results compiled by Richard S. Brown, GIA, PG*/ > > > > > After a lot of interaction with different members of the PGA > we > > > > > have identified TEN GEM CHOOSING METHODS AS PRIMARY: > > > > > 1. *Lagna Lord's gem method:* For improving health (Example: > If > > > > > Lagna is Leo, a sign ruled by Sun, the gem would be ruby or > other > > > > > Sun gems like red spinel or red garnet), > > > > > ---Yes if the planet is located in a 'good' (strong) > position, > > > > > otherwise not. > > > > > ---Yes even if the planet is located in a 'bad' (weak) > position. > > > > > 2. *Moon Rasi Lord's gem method:* (Example: If Moon is in > Virgo, a > > > > > sign ruled by Mercury, then the gem would be emerald or > another > > > > > Mercury gem like tsavorite or green tourmaline); > > > > > ---Yes if the planet is located in a 'good' position, > otherwise not. > > > > > ---Yes even if the planet is located in a 'bad' position. > > > > > 3. *Maha-Dasha Lord's gem method:* For ... > > > > > a. Overcoming bad Dasha periods, or > > > > > b. Boosting good Dasha periods > > > > > (Example: If one is in a Mars Mahadasha or Bhukti then red > coral > > > > > or another Mars gem like red carnelian should be worn), > > > > > ---Yes if the planet is located in a 'good' position, > otherwise not. > > > > > ---Yes even if the planet is located in a 'bad' position. > > > > > 4. *Weak Planet's gem method:* For overcoming a weak planet > based > > > > > on the concept that a 'weak' (inauspicious) planet is > strengthened > > > > > by wearing it's gem and there by it changes from being > > > > > inauspicious (weak) to become auspicious (strong). Example: A > > > > > person has Jupiter debilitated (0% power) which is > inauspicious, > > > > > but by wearing yellow sapphire or another yellow Jupiter > jewel, it > > > > > is believed that the 'weak' (troublesome) Jupiter gets > > > > > strengthened and becomes auspicious. > > > > > 5. *Strong Planet's gem method:* For resorting to one's > strong > > > > > auspicious planet(s) (exalted, mulatrikona, own sign, great > > > > > friend, etc.) based on the concept that lucky planet = luck > gem! > > > > > One should avoid their 'weakness and cultivate their > strength. > > > > > Most auspicious gem of strongest most desirable planet. > Example: > > > > > One has Leo Lagna and their Lagna-lord is Sun, who is exalted > > > > > (100% strength) and posited in the 9^th house which is all > very > > > > > auspicious. That person would be advised to use a fine ruby, > the > > > > > Sun's gem, to attract or harness his auspicious influence. > On the > > > > > other hand if the same person had Saturn debilitated (0% > strength) > > > > > and in the 8^th house they would be advised to avoid > Saturn's gem > > > > > blue sapphire and all other Saturnine things or activities. > And > > > > > better still they could donate a blue sapphire to pacify > Shanideva. > > > > > 6) *Fadic number gem method:* Use a gem for the planet > associated > > > > > with one's Fadic number for general luck. (Example: If birth > date > > > > > is 1+13+1966 (1+1+3+1+9+6+6) equals T: 27 (2+7) = T: 9 = > cosmic > > > > > number for Mars (red coral). > > > > > Fadic Number/Planet/Gem List: > > > > > -1 is Sun - ruby > > > > > -2 is Moon - pearl (natural, not cultured) > > > > > -3 is Jupiter - yellow sapphire > > > > > -4 is Rahu - hessonite > > > > > -5 is Mercury - emerald > > > > > -6 is Venus - diamond > > > > > -7 is Ketu -- cat's eye > > > > > -8 is Saturn -- blue sapphire > > > > > -9 is Mars -- red coral > > > > > 7. *Gem of 11th lord method:* Eleventh lord's gem is to be > worn > > > > > for gains: > > > > > ---Yes if the 11th Lord (planet) is located in a 'good' > position, > > > > > otherwise not. > > > > > ---Yes even if the 11th Lord (planet) is located in a 'bad' > > > position. > > > > > 8. *Gem of 10th lord method:* To strengthen one's profession: > > > > > ---Yes if the 10th Lord (planet) is located in a 'good' > position, > > > > > otherwise not. > > > > > ---Yes even if the 10th Lord (planet) is located in a 'bad' > > > position. > > > > > 9. *Gem of 9th lord method:* For improving fortune, happiness > > > > > ---Yes if the 9th Lord (planet) is located in a 'good' > position, > > > > > otherwise not. > > > > > ---Yes even if the 9th Lord (planet) is located in a 'bad' > position. > > > > > 10. *Gem donation method: *It is taught that if a person has > a > > > > > very weak and inauspicious planet causing them harm, this > harmful > > > > > influence can be mitigated by pacifying the harmful planet > > > > > (Graha-deva) through a sacrifice by donating a gem for the > harmful > > > > > planet to a specified recipient. Example: A person who has > Rahu > > > > > posited in a harmful (weak) position and is in a troublesome > Rahu > > > > > Maha-Dasha would be advised to donate a hessonite or another > Rahu > > > > > gem to a leper on Saturday evening during the waxing Moon. > > > > > The purpose of this research is to help organize Planetary > > > > > Gemology into a recognized Vedic "science" with many distinct > > > > > schools of thought and methodology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > Planet Earth is in the hot seat. Know more. > > > > > > > > > <http://in.rd./tagline_glue_2/*http://in.search./se > arc\ > > > h? & fr=na_onnetwork_mail_taglines & ei=UTF-8 & rd=r1 & p=global+warming > > > > <http://in.rd./tagline_glue_2/*http://in.search./se > arch? & fr=na_onnetwork_mail_taglines & ei=UTF-8 & rd=r1 & p=global+warming>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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