Guest guest Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 Dear Sir, Earlier i was blindly accepting and attributing saturn for spiritual persuits like kundalini awakenning now i m bit sceptical coz i saw people with saturn and rahu's dominance dont keep high moral values, if they do sadhana that's of low order dieties though net groups praises saturn very high. Saturn is made to oppress not to awaken or enlighten, kundalini awakening is like blossoming of a bud. what triggers kundalini is not well known, as per my experience, kundalini is bound to awaken and move upwards, there is only one way left for it's movement, I dont agree that hitting the muladhaar by a air column that we inhale may trigger kundalini. Kundalini awakening is like igniting a electric power station, the experience is not hot rather cool and while writing this mail i feel the sensation in my spinal card, it's coming upto manipur chakra, there are verious types of kundalini awakening, right now,in my case it's like aint's walking but someother time it's like cool water's level increasing. What ignites Kundalini ? It's a state of mind when u in equallibrium of ur action and thoughts, cleanliness of thoughts from ego and cleverness is a must otherwise one may be limited to give imaginary explainations of kundalini coz they know that most people will not be able to cross check it,so, as per my experience, the conciousness acceptable to divinity is the only thing that can trigger one's kundalini. If i look at my chart, i dont find strong reasons for getting God's vision, vision in mind and lot many physical experiences of meeting dieties like the one when along with my 4 brothers i saw Lord Hanuman Ji, it was a real physical event, He jumped back around 250 mtrs at once then only we could believe he was not a huge monkey rather sri hanumanji. But i m the only guy before u who have true spiritual experience and i think it's the time to correct and enhance conventional theories coined in net astrology. regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Lalit, > > Personally, I think there has to be some relation between Saturn- Jupiter > and the 9th for the possibility of awakening of Kundalini. Ketu's > involvement may have more to do with moksha than Kundalini awakening, as > such. But this must remain a conjecture as those who have had the > experience may not want to speak about it as it is a very personal > experience. > > > Chandrashekhar. > > litsol wrote: > > > > Sir, > > > > I have two interesting charts, one of a doctor girl whose 5'th lord > > is in 9'th house, she is a very nice girl, almost like an ideal one > > but she has not shown any exlusive sign of kundalini awakening > > neither have a serious interest in such occult activities however > > she is bit religious. > > > > One of my cousins is in love with her. > > > > I too think like you that Ketu (Muladhaar) should be involved > > somewhere for one's kundalini awakening. > > > > Let's see what other experienced members has to say on this. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, aavesh t > > <aavesh_s@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaskar RKDa,Nalini and Group, > > > > > > RKDa has summarised the essence of the Kundalini experience in > > his inimitable style > > > > > > As Lahiri Mahasaya once told Sri Yogananda during his childhood > > days 'Choto Mahasaya you meditate regularly but have you got > > Anubhava' ??.He then went on to give a glimpse of this to > > Yogananda !! > > > > > > It is all a matter of one's Karmas :When the moment is right one > > will have the experience !! > > > > > > From the Jyotish point of view,it would be interesting to see > > the timing of such an event (I believe periods of the 5th,9th and > > 12th lords ,Guru and Ketu in trines to Lagna/Rasi will contribute > > significantly to this awakening) > > > > > > I request all the group members to voice their opinion so that > > it can be a learning experience for all of us > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > aavesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > arkaydash <arkaydash@> wrote: > > > Dear Aavesh, Nalini & (hidden) others > > > As I have said this is like the cat you think you can bell. The > > cat pounces on you and eats up your assorted sorrows in a gulp, > > sending you into a quiet reverie for a while. For a while, because > > you have to ply (at) it. You have to learn the praana vidya from an > > achaarya or guru (so as to hold onto it). It's a guru-mukhee vidya. > > No, not so called because of its script. > > > I wrote: " It can come about from sudden unfoldment of prarabdha > > though. " Let me qualify this. The cat can spring on you unannounced > > one day and make a meal of your quotidian angst and complaints > > such 'I didn't get this, I didn't get that'. The Truine Power > > appears within and holds out the words: " Okay, first have THIS. " > > That is in a moment. The " suddenness " is in the moment. Not in its > > ineluctability. Why? Because, you must have prepared for it > > unwittingly. It has been observed that those who attain to k. had > > been working with their sheaths unconsciously -- such as the annmaya > > ((1st house factor), manomay (4th house f.), vijnaamaya kosha (9th > > house or 9th to 9th; when it is 9th to 9th you go to a guru as you > > have gained a measure of enlightenemnt and become aware of the > > sacredness and seriousness of your existence; so we read diksha from > > 5th house). The good work had been accreting in the praanamaya > > sheath. The hideen treasure reveals its powers - - some in one go, > > > others by and by -- including the power to alter the currency of > > existence. > > > Now you are estblished in the praanamaya kosha. Hold onto it. > > > RK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one > > roof. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 Dear Lalit, Saturn's value in the yogas leading to spirituality is not a conjecture. Not for nothing are its rasis called Ishwaramsha, in nadi texts. Like every planet Saturn has its good side and its bad side, so only Saturn by itself may not necessarily give the Kundalini experience, Jupiter will also have to be involved. As to Rahu, he gives results by association and his involvement as a blanket fact may not be correct. I do not think that an air column causes rise of Kundalini. The regulation of breath is an aid to deeper meditation. I am sure you understand that Prateek darshan is only a stop in the path of final merger of Kundalini with Sahasrara. Even in your case there is a clear aspect of Saturn on a week Moon in debility. So Saturn is very much there. Have you not observed this? take care, Chandrashekhar. litsol wrote: Dear Sir, Earlier i was blindly accepting and attributing saturn for spiritual persuits like kundalini awakenning now i m bit sceptical coz i saw people with saturn and rahu's dominance dont keep high moral values, if they do sadhana that's of low order dieties though net groups praises saturn very high. Saturn is made to oppress not to awaken or enlighten, kundalini awakening is like blossoming of a bud. what triggers kundalini is not well known, as per my experience, kundalini is bound to awaken and move upwards, there is only one way left for it's movement, I dont agree that hitting the muladhaar by a air column that we inhale may trigger kundalini. Kundalini awakening is like igniting a electric power station, the experience is not hot rather cool and while writing this mail i feel the sensation in my spinal card, it's coming upto manipur chakra, there are verious types of kundalini awakening, right now,in my case it's like aint's walking but someother time it's like cool water's level increasing. What ignites Kundalini ? It's a state of mind when u in equallibrium of ur action and thoughts, cleanliness of thoughts from ego and cleverness is a must otherwise one may be limited to give imaginary explainations of kundalini coz they know that most people will not be able to cross check it,so, as per my experience, the conciousness acceptable to divinity is the only thing that can trigger one's kundalini. If i look at my chart, i dont find strong reasons for getting God's vision, vision in mind and lot many physical experiences of meeting dieties like the one when along with my 4 brothers i saw Lord Hanuman Ji, it was a real physical event, He jumped back around 250 mtrs at once then only we could believe he was not a huge monkey rather sri hanumanji. But i m the only guy before u who have true spiritual experience and i think it's the time to correct and enhance conventional theories coined in net astrology. regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Lalit, > > Personally, I think there has to be some relation between Saturn- Jupiter > and the 9th for the possibility of awakening of Kundalini. Ketu's > involvement may have more to do with moksha than Kundalini awakening, as > such. But this must remain a conjecture as those who have had the > experience may not want to speak about it as it is a very personal > experience. > > > Chandrashekhar. > > litsol wrote: > > > > Sir, > > > > I have two interesting charts, one of a doctor girl whose 5'th lord > > is in 9'th house, she is a very nice girl, almost like an ideal one > > but she has not shown any exlusive sign of kundalini awakening > > neither have a serious interest in such occult activities however > > she is bit religious. > > > > One of my cousins is in love with her. > > > > I too think like you that Ketu (Muladhaar) should be involved > > somewhere for one's kundalini awakening. > > > > Let's see what other experienced members has to say on this. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, aavesh t > > <aavesh_s@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaskar RKDa,Nalini and Group, > > > > > > RKDa has summarised the essence of the Kundalini experience in > > his inimitable style > > > > > > As Lahiri Mahasaya once told Sri Yogananda during his childhood > > days 'Choto Mahasaya you meditate regularly but have you got > > Anubhava' ??.He then went on to give a glimpse of this to > > Yogananda !! > > > > > > It is all a matter of one's Karmas :When the moment is right one > > will have the experience !! > > > > > > From the Jyotish point of view,it would be interesting to see > > the timing of such an event (I believe periods of the 5th,9th and > > 12th lords ,Guru and Ketu in trines to Lagna/Rasi will contribute > > significantly to this awakening) > > > > > > I request all the group members to voice their opinion so that > > it can be a learning experience for all of us > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > aavesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > arkaydash <arkaydash@> wrote: > > > Dear Aavesh, Nalini & (hidden) others > > > As I have said this is like the cat you think you can bell. The > > cat pounces on you and eats up your assorted sorrows in a gulp, > > sending you into a quiet reverie for a while. For a while, because > > you have to ply (at) it. You have to learn the praana vidya from an > > achaarya or guru (so as to hold onto it). It's a guru-mukhee vidya. > > No, not so called because of its script. > > > I wrote: "It can come about from sudden unfoldment of prarabdha > > though." Let me qualify this. The cat can spring on you unannounced > > one day and make a meal of your quotidian angst and complaints > > such 'I didn't get this, I didn't get that'. The Truine Power > > appears within and holds out the words: "Okay, first have THIS." > > That is in a moment. The "suddenness" is in the moment. Not in its > > ineluctability. Why? Because, you must have prepared for it > > unwittingly. It has been observed that those who attain to k. had > > been working with their sheaths unconsciously -- such as the annmaya > > ((1st house factor), manomay (4th house f.), vijnaamaya kosha (9th > > house or 9th to 9th; when it is 9th to 9th you go to a guru as you > > have gained a measure of enlightenemnt and become aware of the > > sacredness and seriousness of your existence; so we read diksha from > > 5th house). The good work had been accreting in the praanamaya > > sheath. The hideen treasure reveals its powers - - some in one go, > > > others by and by -- including the power to alter the currency of > > existence. > > > Now you are estblished in the praanamaya kosha. Hold onto it. > > > RK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one > > roof. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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