Guest guest Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Dear Chandrashekarji and Lalit, In Lalit's chart the following factors are very significant: (i) Vargotamma Ketu placed in 5th in D-1 in yuti with Chara Bhratikaraka Budha (ii) Ketu placed in 12th in D-9. In D-20,Guru aspects the 5th house where the Bhratrikarak Budha is placed.This is a very powerful yoga and can give intense spiritual experiences (5th lord aspecting Bhratrikaraka). The 9th Lord Chandra in yuti with Shani Maharaj (in Neecha) in 6th gives many hurdles in the spiritual path.This is the reason he faces flak from so many quarters Lalit will scale great heights during Venus-Venus.However,there will be a lot of anguish on the personal front during this period for Lalit which will serve to mould his spirituality Regards, aavesh Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: Dear Lalit,Saturn's value in the yogas leading to spirituality is not a conjecture. Not for nothing are its rasis called Ishwaramsha, in nadi texts. Like every planet Saturn has its good side and its bad side, so only Saturn by itself may not necessarily give the Kundalini experience, Jupiter will also have to be involved. As to Rahu, he gives results by association and his involvement as a blanket fact may not be correct.I do not think that an air column causes rise of Kundalini. The regulation of breath is an aid to deeper meditation. I am sure you understand that Prateek darshan is only a stop in the path of final merger of Kundalini with Sahasrara. Even in your case there is a clear aspect of Saturn on a week Moon in debility. So Saturn is very much there. Have you not observed this?take care,Chandrashekhar.litsol wrote: Dear Sir,Earlier i was blindly accepting and attributing saturn for spiritual persuits like kundalini awakenning now i m bit sceptical coz i saw people with saturn and rahu's dominance dont keep high moral values, if they do sadhana that's of low order dieties though net groups praises saturn very high. Saturn is made to oppress not to awaken or enlighten, kundalini awakening is like blossoming of a bud.what triggers kundalini is not well known, as per my experience, kundalini is bound to awaken and move upwards, there is only one way left for it's movement, I dont agree that hitting the muladhaar by a air column that we inhale may trigger kundalini.Kundalini awakening is like igniting a electric power station, the experience is not hot rather cool and while writing this mail i feel the sensation in my spinal card, it's coming upto manipur chakra, there are verious types of kundalini awakening, right now,in my case it's like aint's walking but someother time it's like cool water's level increasing.What ignites Kundalini ? It's a state of mind when u in equallibrium of ur action and thoughts, cleanliness of thoughts from ego and cleverness is a must otherwise one may be limited to give imaginary explainations of kundalini coz they know that most people will not be able to cross check it,so, as per my experience, the conciousness acceptable to divinity is the only thing that can trigger one's kundalini. If i look at my chart, i dont find strong reasons for getting God's vision, vision in mind and lot many physical experiences of meeting dieties like the one when along with my 4 brothers i saw Lord Hanuman Ji, it was a real physical event, He jumped back around 250 mtrs at once then only we could believe he was not a huge monkey rather sri hanumanji.But i m the only guy before u who have true spiritual experience and i think it's the time to correct and enhance conventional theories coined in net astrology.regards,Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:>> Dear Lalit,> > Personally, I think there has to be some relation between Saturn-Jupiter > and the 9th for the possibility of awakening of Kundalini. Ketu's > involvement may have more to do with moksha than Kundalini awakening, as > such. But this must remain a conjecture as those who have had the > experience may not want to speak about it as it is a very personal > experience.> > > Chandrashekhar.> > litsol wrote:> >> > Sir,> >> > I have two interesting charts, one of a doctor girl whose 5'th lord> > is in 9'th house, she is a very nice girl, almost like an ideal one> > but she has not shown any exlusive sign of kundalini awakening> > neither have a serious interest in such occult activities however> > she is bit religious.> >> > One of my cousins is in love with her.> >> > I too think like you that Ketu (Muladhaar) should be involved> > somewhere for one's kundalini awakening.> >> > Let's see what other experienced members has to say on this.> >> > regards,> > Lalit.> >> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, aavesh t> > <aavesh_s@> wrote:> > >> > > Namaskar RKDa,Nalini and Group,> > >> > > RKDa has summarised the essence of the Kundalini experience in> > his inimitable style> > >> > > As Lahiri Mahasaya once told Sri Yogananda during his childhood> > days 'Choto Mahasaya you meditate regularly but have you got> > Anubhava' ??.He then went on to give a glimpse of this to> > Yogananda !!> > >> > > It is all a matter of one's Karmas :When the moment is right one> > will have the experience !!> > >> > > From the Jyotish point of view,it would be interesting to see> > the timing of such an event (I believe periods of the 5th,9th and> > 12th lords ,Guru and Ketu in trines to Lagna/Rasi will contribute> > significantly to this awakening)> > >> > > I request all the group members to voice their opinion so that> > it can be a learning experience for all of us> > >> > > Regards,> > >> > > aavesh> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > arkaydash <arkaydash@> wrote:> > > Dear Aavesh, Nalini & (hidden) others> > > As I have said this is like the cat you think you can bell. The> > cat pounces on you and eats up your assorted sorrows in a gulp,> > sending you into a quiet reverie for a while. For a while, because> > you have to ply (at) it. You have to learn the praana vidya from an> > achaarya or guru (so as to hold onto it). It's a guru-mukhee vidya.> > No, not so called because of its script.> > > I wrote: "It can come about from sudden unfoldment of prarabdha> > though." Let me qualify this. The cat can spring on you unannounced> > one day and make a meal of your quotidian angst and complaints> > such 'I didn't get this, I didn't get that'. The Truine Power> > appears within and holds out the words: "Okay, first have THIS."> > That is in a moment. The "suddenness" is in the moment. Not in its> > ineluctability. Why? Because, you must have prepared for it> > unwittingly. It has been observed that those who attain to k. had> > been working with their sheaths unconsciously -- such as the annmaya> > ((1st house factor), manomay (4th house f.), vijnaamaya kosha (9th> > house or 9th to 9th; when it is 9th to 9th you go to a guru as you> > have gained a measure of enlightenemnt and become aware of the> > sacredness and seriousness of your existence; so we read diksha from> > 5th house). The good work had been accreting in the praanamaya> > sheath. The hideen treasure reveals its powers - - some in one go,> > > others by and by -- including the power to alter the currency of> > existence.> > > Now you are estblished in the praanamaya kosha. Hold onto it.> > > RK> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one> > roof. > > >> >> >> Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Respected Group Members, Please tell me if there is some yoga of "Kundalini Jagaran" in my case. In my horoscope Saturn, Jupiter, Raahu and Moon are present in the 11th house and the Raashi is Leo. If you need some more info., Please tell me. Thanks and Regards, saurabh ************************************************************** & quot;KUCHH SAPANON KE MAR JAANE SE JEEVAN NAHIN MARAA KARATAA HAI & quot;**************************************************************--- On Wed, 28/5/08, Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekharRe: [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: The Kundalini factorVedic Astrologyandhealing Date: Wednesday, 28 May, 2008, 12:48 AM Dear Lalit,Saturn's value in the yogas leading to spirituality is not a conjecture. Not for nothing are its rasis called Ishwaramsha, in nadi texts. Like every planet Saturn has its good side and its bad side, so only Saturn by itself may not necessarily give the Kundalini experience, Jupiter will also have to be involved. As to Rahu, he gives results by association and his involvement as a blanket fact may not be correct.I do not think that an air column causes rise of Kundalini. The regulation of breath is an aid to deeper meditation. I am sure you understand that Prateek darshan is only a stop in the path of final merger of Kundalini with Sahasrara. Even in your case there is a clear aspect of Saturn on a week Moon in debility. So Saturn is very much there. Have you not observed this?take care,Chandrashekhar.litsol wrote: Dear Sir,Earlier i was blindly accepting and attributing saturn for spiritual persuits like kundalini awakenning now i m bit sceptical coz i saw people with saturn and rahu's dominance dont keep high moral values, if they do sadhana that's of low order dieties though net groups praises saturn very high. Saturn is made to oppress not to awaken or enlighten, kundalini awakening is like blossoming of a bud.what triggers kundalini is not well known, as per my experience, kundalini is bound to awaken and move upwards, there is only one way left for it's movement, I dont agree that hitting the muladhaar by a air column that we inhale may trigger kundalini.Kundalini awakening is like igniting a electric power station, the experience is not hot rather cool and while writing this mail i feel the sensation in my spinal card, it's coming upto manipur chakra, there are verious types of kundalini awakening, right now,in my case it's like aint's walking but someother time it's like cool water's level increasing.What ignites Kundalini ? It's a state of mind when u in equallibrium of ur action and thoughts, cleanliness of thoughts from ego and cleverness is a must otherwise one may be limited to give imaginary explainations of kundalini coz they know that most people will not be able to cross check it,so, as per my experience, the conciousness acceptable to divinity is the only thing that can trigger one's kundalini. If i look at my chart, i dont find strong reasons for getting God's vision, vision in mind and lot many physical experiences of meeting dieties like the one when along with my 4 brothers i saw Lord Hanuman Ji, it was a real physical event, He jumped back around 250 mtrs at once then only we could believe he was not a huge monkey rather sri hanumanji.But i m the only guy before u who have true spiritual experience and i think it's the time to correct and enhance conventional theories coined in net astrology.regards,Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashek har wrote:>> Dear Lalit,> > Personally, I think there has to be some relation between Saturn-Jupiter > and the 9th for the possibility of awakening of Kundalini. Ketu's > involvement may have more to do with moksha than Kundalini awakening, as > such. But this must remain a conjecture as those who have had the > experience may not want to speak about it as it is a very personal > experience.> > > Chandrashekhar.> > litsol wrote:> >> > Sir,> >> > I have two interesting charts, one of a doctor girl whose 5'th lord> > is in 9'th house, she is a very nice girl, almost like an ideal one> > but she has not shown any exlusive sign of kundalini awakening> > neither have a serious interest in such occult activities however> > she is bit religious.> >> > One of my cousins is in love with her.> >> > I too think like you that Ketu (Muladhaar) should be involved> > somewhere for one's kundalini awakening.> >> > Let's see what other experienced members has to say on this.> >> > regards,> > Lalit.> >> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com > > <vedicastrol ogyandhealing% 40. com>, aavesh t> > <aavesh_s@> wrote:> > >> > > Namaskar RKDa,Nalini and Group,> > >> > > RKDa has summarised the essence of the Kundalini experience in> > his inimitable style> > >> > > As Lahiri Mahasaya once told Sri Yogananda during his childhood> > days 'Choto Mahasaya you meditate regularly but have you got> > Anubhava' ??.He then went on to give a glimpse of this to> > Yogananda !!> > >> > > It is all a matter of one's Karmas :When the moment is right one> > will have the experience !!> > >> > > From the Jyotish point of view,it would be interesting to see> > the timing of such an event (I believe periods of the 5th,9th and> > 12th lords ,Guru and Ketu in trines to Lagna/Rasi will contribute> > significantly to this awakening)> > >> > > I request all the group members to voice their opinion so that> > it can be a learning experience for all of us> > >> > > Regards,> > >> > > aavesh> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > arkaydash <arkaydash@> wrote:> > > Dear Aavesh, Nalini & (hidden) others> > > As I have said this is like the cat you think you can bell. The> > cat pounces on you and eats up your assorted sorrows in a gulp,> > sending you into a quiet reverie for a while. For a while, because> > you have to ply (at) it. You have to learn the praana vidya from an> > achaarya or guru (so as to hold onto it). It's a guru-mukhee vidya.> > No, not so called because of its script.> > > I wrote: "It can come about from sudden unfoldment of prarabdha> > though." Let me qualify this. The cat can spring on you unannounced> > one day and make a meal of your quotidian angst and complaints> > such 'I didn't get this, I didn't get that'. The Truine Power> > appears within and holds out the words: "Okay, first have THIS."> > That is in a moment. The "suddenness" is in the moment. Not in its> > ineluctability. Why? Because, you must have prepared for it> > unwittingly. It has been observed that those who attain to k. had> > been working with their sheaths unconsciously -- such as the annmaya> > ((1st house factor), manomay (4th house f.), vijnaamaya kosha (9th> > house or 9th to 9th; when it is 9th to 9th you go to a guru as you> > have gained a measure of enlightenemnt and become aware of the> > sacredness and seriousness of your existence; so we read diksha from> > 5th house). The good work had been accreting in the praanamaya> > sheath. The hideen treasure reveals its powers - - some in one go,> > > others by and by -- including the power to alter the currency of> > existence.> > > Now you are estblished in the praanamaya kosha. Hold onto it.> > > RK> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one> > roof. > > >> >> >>Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. 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Guest guest Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Dear Saurabh, If i m right, your's is Libra Ascendance and 4 plaents Saturn, Jupiter, Raahu and Moon in 11'th, with Venus + Merc in lagna and Sun in 12'th should give u kindalini exp if the dictum that Saturn is a karka for kundalini awakenning, is true. I w'd request you to post ur full B'Details so that our elders can have a fair idea of ur's horoscope. Wish u all the best, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , saurabh chaturvedi <chaturvedisaurabh2002 wrote: > > Respected Group Members, > & nbsp; > Please tell me if there is some yoga of " Kundalini Jagaran " in my case. In my horoscope Saturn, Jupiter, Raahu and Moon are present in the 11th house and the Raashi is Leo. > & nbsp; > If you need some more info., Please tell me. > & nbsp; > Thanks and Regards, > & nbsp;saurabh > & nbsp; > & nbsp; > & nbsp; > & nbsp; > & nbsp; > > > ************************************************************** > > & amp;quot;KUCHH SAPANON KE MAR JAANE SE JEEVAN NAHIN MARAA KARATAA HAI & amp;quot; > > ************************************************************** > > --- On Wed, 28/5/08, Chandrashekhar sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Chandrashekhar sharma.chandrashekhar > Re: [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: The Kundalini factor > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > Wednesday, 28 May, 2008, 12:48 AM Dear Lalit, > > Saturn's value in the yogas leading to spirituality is not a conjecture. Not for nothing are its rasis called Ishwaramsha, in nadi texts. Like every planet Saturn has its good side and its bad side, so only Saturn by itself may not necessarily give the Kundalini experience, Jupiter will also have to be involved. As to Rahu, he gives results by association and his involvement as a blanket fact may not be correct. > > I do not think that an air column causes rise of Kundalini. The regulation of breath is an aid to deeper meditation. & nbsp; I am sure you understand that Prateek darshan is only a stop in the path of final merger of Kundalini with Sahasrara. > > Even in your case there is a clear aspect of Saturn on a week Moon in debility. So Saturn is very much there. Have you not observed this? > > take care, > Chandrashekhar. > > > litsol wrote: > > > Dear Sir, > > Earlier i was blindly accepting and attributing saturn for spiritual > persuits like kundalini awakenning now i m bit sceptical coz i saw > people with saturn and rahu's dominance dont keep high moral values, > if they do sadhana that's of low order dieties though net groups > praises saturn very high. Saturn is made to oppress not to awaken or > enlighten, kundalini awakening is like blossoming of a bud. > > what triggers kundalini is not well known, as per my experience, > kundalini is bound to awaken and move upwards, there is only one way > left for it's movement, I dont agree that hitting the muladhaar by a > air column that we inhale may trigger kundalini. > > Kundalini awakening is like igniting a electric power station, the > experience is not hot rather cool and while writing this mail i feel > the sensation in my spinal card, it's coming upto manipur chakra, > there are verious types of kundalini awakening, right now,in my case > it's like aint's walking but someother time it's like cool water's > level increasing. > > What ignites Kundalini ? It's a state of mind when u in equallibrium > of ur action and thoughts, cleanliness of thoughts from ego and > cleverness is a must otherwise one may be limited to give imaginary > explainations of kundalini coz they know that most people will not be > able to cross check it,so, as per my experience, the conciousness > acceptable to divinity is the only thing that can trigger one's > kundalini. > > If i look at my chart, i dont find strong reasons for getting God's > vision, vision in mind and lot many physical experiences of meeting > dieties like the one when along with my 4 brothers i saw Lord Hanuman > Ji, it was a real physical event, He jumped back around 250 mtrs at > once then only we could believe he was not a huge monkey rather sri > hanumanji. > > But i m the only guy before u who have true spiritual experience and > i think it's the time to correct and enhance conventional theories > coined in net astrology. > > regards, > Lalit. > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Chandrashekhar > & lt;sharma.chandrashek har@ wrote: > & gt; > & gt; Dear Lalit, > & gt; > & gt; Personally, I think there has to be some relation between Saturn- > Jupiter > & gt; and the 9th for the possibility of awakening of Kundalini. Ketu's > & gt; involvement may have more to do with moksha than Kundalini > awakening, as > & gt; such. But this must remain a conjecture as those who have had the > & gt; experience may not want to speak about it as it is a very personal > & gt; experience. > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; Chandrashekhar. > & gt; > & gt; litsol wrote: > & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; Sir, > & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; I have two interesting charts, one of a doctor girl whose 5'th > lord > & gt; & gt; is in 9'th house, she is a very nice girl, almost like an ideal > one > & gt; & gt; but she has not shown any exlusive sign of kundalini awakening > & gt; & gt; neither have a serious interest in such occult activities however > & gt; & gt; she is bit religious. > & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; One of my cousins is in love with her. > & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; I too think like you that Ketu (Muladhaar) should be involved > & gt; & gt; somewhere for one's kundalini awakening. > & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; Let's see what other experienced members has to say on this. > & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; regards, > & gt; & gt; Lalit. > & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com > & gt; & gt; & lt;vedicastrol ogyandhealing% 40. com & gt;, aavesh t > & gt; & gt; & lt;aavesh_s@ & gt; wrote: > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; Namaskar RKDa,Nalini and Group, > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; RKDa has summarised the essence of the Kundalini experience in > & gt; & gt; his inimitable style > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; As Lahiri Mahasaya once told Sri Yogananda during his childhood > & gt; & gt; days 'Choto Mahasaya you meditate regularly but have you got > & gt; & gt; Anubhava' ??.He then went on to give a glimpse of this to > & gt; & gt; Yogananda !! > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; It is all a matter of one's Karmas :When the moment is right one > & gt; & gt; will have the experience !! > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; From the Jyotish point of view,it would be interesting to see > & gt; & gt; the timing of such an event (I believe periods of the 5th,9th and > & gt; & gt; 12th lords ,Guru and Ketu in trines to Lagna/Rasi will contribute > & gt; & gt; significantly to this awakening) > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; I request all the group members to voice their opinion so that > & gt; & gt; it can be a learning experience for all of us > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; Regards, > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; aavesh > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; arkaydash & lt;arkaydash@ & gt; wrote: > & gt; & gt; & gt; Dear Aavesh, Nalini & amp; (hidden) others > & gt; & gt; & gt; As I have said this is like the cat you think you can bell. The > & gt; & gt; cat pounces on you and eats up your assorted sorrows in a gulp, > & gt; & gt; sending you into a quiet reverie for a while. For a while, because > & gt; & gt; you have to ply (at) it. You have to learn the praana vidya from > an > & gt; & gt; achaarya or guru (so as to hold onto it). It's a guru- mukhee > vidya. > & gt; & gt; No, not so called because of its script. > & gt; & gt; & gt; I wrote: " It can come about from sudden unfoldment of prarabdha > & gt; & gt; though. " Let me qualify this. The cat can spring on you > unannounced > & gt; & gt; one day and make a meal of your quotidian angst and complaints > & gt; & gt; such 'I didn't get this, I didn't get that'. The Truine Power > & gt; & gt; appears within and holds out the words: " Okay, first have THIS. " > & gt; & gt; That is in a moment. The " suddenness " is in the moment. Not in its > & gt; & gt; ineluctability. Why? Because, you must have prepared for it > & gt; & gt; unwittingly. It has been observed that those who attain to k. had > & gt; & gt; been working with their sheaths unconsciously -- such as the > annmaya > & gt; & gt; ((1st house factor), manomay (4th house f.), vijnaamaya kosha (9th > & gt; & gt; house or 9th to 9th; when it is 9th to 9th you go to a guru as you > & gt; & gt; have gained a measure of enlightenemnt and become aware of the > & gt; & gt; sacredness and seriousness of your existence; so we read diksha > from > & gt; & gt; 5th house). The good work had been accreting in the praanamaya > & gt; & gt; sheath. The hideen treasure reveals its powers - - some in one go, > & gt; & gt; & gt; others by and by -- including the power to alter the currency of > & gt; & gt; existence. > & gt; & gt; & gt; Now you are estblished in the praanamaya kosha. Hold onto it.. > & gt; & gt; & gt; RK > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; ------------ --------- --------- --- > & gt; & gt; & gt; Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one > & gt; & gt; roof. > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; > & gt; > > > > > > > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. Download Now! http://messenger./download.php > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Aavesh Sir, According to you what mental anguish i have to undergo in Venus - Venus period, One more astrologer has also said this to me. My exp is in it's antar and pratyantar Venus has always given me materialistic happiness of high order. regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , aavesh t <aavesh_s wrote: > > Dear Chandrashekarji and Lalit, > > In Lalit's chart the following factors are very significant: > > (i) Vargotamma Ketu placed in 5th in D-1 in yuti with Chara Bhratikaraka Budha > > (ii) Ketu placed in 12th in D-9. > > In D-20,Guru aspects the 5th house where the Bhratrikarak Budha is placed.This is a very powerful yoga and can give intense spiritual experiences > (5th lord aspecting Bhratrikaraka). > > The 9th Lord Chandra in yuti with Shani Maharaj (in Neecha) in 6th gives many hurdles in the spiritual path.This is the reason he faces flak from so many quarters > > Lalit will scale great heights during Venus-Venus.However,there will be a lot of anguish on the personal front during this period for Lalit which will serve to mould his spirituality > > Regards, > > aavesh > > > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > Dear Lalit, > > Saturn's value in the yogas leading to spirituality is not a conjecture. Not for nothing are its rasis called Ishwaramsha, in nadi texts. Like every planet Saturn has its good side and its bad side, so only Saturn by itself may not necessarily give the Kundalini experience, Jupiter will also have to be involved. As to Rahu, he gives results by association and his involvement as a blanket fact may not be correct. > > I do not think that an air column causes rise of Kundalini. The regulation of breath is an aid to deeper meditation. I am sure you understand that Prateek darshan is only a stop in the path of final merger of Kundalini with Sahasrara. > > Even in your case there is a clear aspect of Saturn on a week Moon in debility. So Saturn is very much there. Have you not observed this? > > take care, > Chandrashekhar. > > > litsol wrote: Dear Sir, > > Earlier i was blindly accepting and attributing saturn for spiritual > persuits like kundalini awakenning now i m bit sceptical coz i saw > people with saturn and rahu's dominance dont keep high moral values, > if they do sadhana that's of low order dieties though net groups > praises saturn very high. Saturn is made to oppress not to awaken or > enlighten, kundalini awakening is like blossoming of a bud. > > what triggers kundalini is not well known, as per my experience, > kundalini is bound to awaken and move upwards, there is only one way > left for it's movement, I dont agree that hitting the muladhaar by a > air column that we inhale may trigger kundalini. > > Kundalini awakening is like igniting a electric power station, the > experience is not hot rather cool and while writing this mail i feel > the sensation in my spinal card, it's coming upto manipur chakra, > there are verious types of kundalini awakening, right now,in my case > it's like aint's walking but someother time it's like cool water's > level increasing. > > What ignites Kundalini ? It's a state of mind when u in equallibrium > of ur action and thoughts, cleanliness of thoughts from ego and > cleverness is a must otherwise one may be limited to give imaginary > explainations of kundalini coz they know that most people will not be > able to cross check it,so, as per my experience, the conciousness > acceptable to divinity is the only thing that can trigger one's > kundalini. > > If i look at my chart, i dont find strong reasons for getting God's > vision, vision in mind and lot many physical experiences of meeting > dieties like the one when along with my 4 brothers i saw Lord Hanuman > Ji, it was a real physical event, He jumped back around 250 mtrs at > once then only we could believe he was not a huge monkey rather sri > hanumanji. > > But i m the only guy before u who have true spiritual experience and > i think it's the time to correct and enhance conventional theories > coined in net astrology. > > regards, > Lalit. > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > Dear Lalit, > > > > Personally, I think there has to be some relation between Saturn- > Jupiter > > and the 9th for the possibility of awakening of Kundalini. Ketu's > > involvement may have more to do with moksha than Kundalini > awakening, as > > such. But this must remain a conjecture as those who have had the > > experience may not want to speak about it as it is a very personal > > experience. > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > litsol wrote: > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > I have two interesting charts, one of a doctor girl whose 5'th > lord > > > is in 9'th house, she is a very nice girl, almost like an ideal > one > > > but she has not shown any exlusive sign of kundalini awakening > > > neither have a serious interest in such occult activities however > > > she is bit religious. > > > > > > One of my cousins is in love with her. > > > > > > I too think like you that Ketu (Muladhaar) should be involved > > > somewhere for one's kundalini awakening. > > > > > > Let's see what other experienced members has to say on this. > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, aavesh t > > > <aavesh_s@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaskar RKDa,Nalini and Group, > > > > > > > > RKDa has summarised the essence of the Kundalini experience in > > > his inimitable style > > > > > > > > As Lahiri Mahasaya once told Sri Yogananda during his childhood > > > days 'Choto Mahasaya you meditate regularly but have you got > > > Anubhava' ??.He then went on to give a glimpse of this to > > > Yogananda !! > > > > > > > > It is all a matter of one's Karmas :When the moment is right one > > > will have the experience !! > > > > > > > > From the Jyotish point of view,it would be interesting to see > > > the timing of such an event (I believe periods of the 5th,9th and > > > 12th lords ,Guru and Ketu in trines to Lagna/Rasi will contribute > > > significantly to this awakening) > > > > > > > > I request all the group members to voice their opinion so that > > > it can be a learning experience for all of us > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > aavesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > arkaydash <arkaydash@> wrote: > > > > Dear Aavesh, Nalini & (hidden) others > > > > As I have said this is like the cat you think you can bell. The > > > cat pounces on you and eats up your assorted sorrows in a gulp, > > > sending you into a quiet reverie for a while. For a while, because > > > you have to ply (at) it. You have to learn the praana vidya from > an > > > achaarya or guru (so as to hold onto it). It's a guru-mukhee > vidya. > > > No, not so called because of its script. > > > > I wrote: " It can come about from sudden unfoldment of prarabdha > > > though. " Let me qualify this. The cat can spring on you > unannounced > > > one day and make a meal of your quotidian angst and complaints > > > such 'I didn't get this, I didn't get that'. The Truine Power > > > appears within and holds out the words: " Okay, first have THIS. " > > > That is in a moment. The " suddenness " is in the moment. Not in its > > > ineluctability. Why? Because, you must have prepared for it > > > unwittingly. It has been observed that those who attain to k. had > > > been working with their sheaths unconsciously -- such as the > annmaya > > > ((1st house factor), manomay (4th house f.), vijnaamaya kosha (9th > > > house or 9th to 9th; when it is 9th to 9th you go to a guru as you > > > have gained a measure of enlightenemnt and become aware of the > > > sacredness and seriousness of your existence; so we read diksha > from > > > 5th house). The good work had been accreting in the praanamaya > > > sheath. The hideen treasure reveals its powers - - some in one go, > > > > others by and by -- including the power to alter the currency of > > > existence. > > > > Now you are estblished in the praanamaya kosha. Hold onto it. > > > > RK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one > > > roof. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bring your gang together. Do your thing. 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Guest guest Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Dear Saurabh, I think with Saturn, Moon and Jupiter afflicted by Rahu, Kundalini may not be your path. Chandrashekhar. litsol wrote: Dear Saurabh, If i m right, your's is Libra Ascendance and 4 plaents Saturn, Jupiter, Raahu and Moon in 11'th, with Venus + Merc in lagna and Sun in 12'th should give u kindalini exp if the dictum that Saturn is a karka for kundalini awakenning, is true. I w'd request you to post ur full B'Details so that our elders can have a fair idea of ur's horoscope. Wish u all the best, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , saurabh chaturvedi <chaturvedisaurabh2002 wrote: > > Respected Group Members, > & nbsp; > Please tell me if there is some yoga of "Kundalini Jagaran" in my case. In my horoscope Saturn, Jupiter, Raahu and Moon are present in the 11th house and the Raashi is Leo. > & nbsp; > If you need some more info., Please tell me. > & nbsp; > Thanks and Regards, > & nbsp;saurabh > & nbsp; > & nbsp; > & nbsp; > & nbsp; > & nbsp; > > > ************************************************************** > > & amp;quot;KUCHH SAPANON KE MAR JAANE SE JEEVAN NAHIN MARAA KARATAA HAI & amp;quot; > > ************************************************************** > > --- On Wed, 28/5/08, Chandrashekhar sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Chandrashekhar sharma.chandrashekhar > Re: [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: The Kundalini factor > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > Wednesday, 28 May, 2008, 12:48 AM > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, > > Saturn's value in the yogas leading to spirituality is not a conjecture. Not for nothing are its rasis called Ishwaramsha, in nadi texts. Like every planet Saturn has its good side and its bad side, so only Saturn by itself may not necessarily give the Kundalini experience, Jupiter will also have to be involved. As to Rahu, he gives results by association and his involvement as a blanket fact may not be correct. > > I do not think that an air column causes rise of Kundalini. The regulation of breath is an aid to deeper meditation. & nbsp; I am sure you understand that Prateek darshan is only a stop in the path of final merger of Kundalini with Sahasrara. > > Even in your case there is a clear aspect of Saturn on a week Moon in debility. So Saturn is very much there. Have you not observed this? > > take care, > Chandrashekhar. > > > litsol wrote: > > > Dear Sir, > > Earlier i was blindly accepting and attributing saturn for spiritual > persuits like kundalini awakenning now i m bit sceptical coz i saw > people with saturn and rahu's dominance dont keep high moral values, > if they do sadhana that's of low order dieties though net groups > praises saturn very high. Saturn is made to oppress not to awaken or > enlighten, kundalini awakening is like blossoming of a bud. > > what triggers kundalini is not well known, as per my experience, > kundalini is bound to awaken and move upwards, there is only one way > left for it's movement, I dont agree that hitting the muladhaar by a > air column that we inhale may trigger kundalini. > > Kundalini awakening is like igniting a electric power station, the > experience is not hot rather cool and while writing this mail i feel > the sensation in my spinal card, it's coming upto manipur chakra, > there are verious types of kundalini awakening, right now,in my case > it's like aint's walking but someother time it's like cool water's > level increasing. > > What ignites Kundalini ? It's a state of mind when u in equallibrium > of ur action and thoughts, cleanliness of thoughts from ego and > cleverness is a must otherwise one may be limited to give imaginary > explainations of kundalini coz they know that most people will not be > able to cross check it,so, as per my experience, the conciousness > acceptable to divinity is the only thing that can trigger one's > kundalini. > > If i look at my chart, i dont find strong reasons for getting God's > vision, vision in mind and lot many physical experiences of meeting > dieties like the one when along with my 4 brothers i saw Lord Hanuman > Ji, it was a real physical event, He jumped back around 250 mtrs at > once then only we could believe he was not a huge monkey rather sri > hanumanji. > > But i m the only guy before u who have true spiritual experience and > i think it's the time to correct and enhance conventional theories > coined in net astrology. > > regards, > Lalit. > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Chandrashekhar > & lt;sharma.chandrashek har@ wrote: > & gt; > & gt; Dear Lalit, > & gt; > & gt; Personally, I think there has to be some relation between Saturn- > Jupiter > & gt; and the 9th for the possibility of awakening of Kundalini. Ketu's > & gt; involvement may have more to do with moksha than Kundalini > awakening, as > & gt; such. But this must remain a conjecture as those who have had the > & gt; experience may not want to speak about it as it is a very personal > & gt; experience. > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; Chandrashekhar. > & gt; > & gt; litsol wrote: > & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; Sir, > & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; I have two interesting charts, one of a doctor girl whose 5'th > lord > & gt; & gt; is in 9'th house, she is a very nice girl, almost like an ideal > one > & gt; & gt; but she has not shown any exlusive sign of kundalini awakening > & gt; & gt; neither have a serious interest in such occult activities however > & gt; & gt; she is bit religious. > & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; One of my cousins is in love with her. > & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; I too think like you that Ketu (Muladhaar) should be involved > & gt; & gt; somewhere for one's kundalini awakening. > & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; Let's see what other experienced members has to say on this. > & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; regards, > & gt; & gt; Lalit. > & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com > & gt; & gt; & lt;vedicastrol ogyandhealing% 40. com & gt;, aavesh t > & gt; & gt; & lt;aavesh_s@ & gt; wrote: > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; Namaskar RKDa,Nalini and Group, > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; RKDa has summarised the essence of the Kundalini experience in > & gt; & gt; his inimitable style > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; As Lahiri Mahasaya once told Sri Yogananda during his childhood > & gt; & gt; days 'Choto Mahasaya you meditate regularly but have you got > & gt; & gt; Anubhava' ??.He then went on to give a glimpse of this to > & gt; & gt; Yogananda !! > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; It is all a matter of one's Karmas :When the moment is right one > & gt; & gt; will have the experience !! > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; From the Jyotish point of view,it would be interesting to see > & gt; & gt; the timing of such an event (I believe periods of the 5th,9th and > & gt; & gt; 12th lords ,Guru and Ketu in trines to Lagna/Rasi will contribute > & gt; & gt; significantly to this awakening) > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; I request all the group members to voice their opinion so that > & gt; & gt; it can be a learning experience for all of us > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; Regards, > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; aavesh > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; arkaydash & lt;arkaydash@ & gt; wrote: > & gt; & gt; & gt; Dear Aavesh, Nalini & amp; (hidden) others > & gt; & gt; & gt; As I have said this is like the cat you think you can bell. The > & gt; & gt; cat pounces on you and eats up your assorted sorrows in a gulp, > & gt; & gt; sending you into a quiet reverie for a while. For a while, because > & gt; & gt; you have to ply (at) it. You have to learn the praana vidya from > an > & gt; & gt; achaarya or guru (so as to hold onto it). It's a guru- mukhee > vidya. > & gt; & gt; No, not so called because of its script. > & gt; & gt; & gt; I wrote: "It can come about from sudden unfoldment of prarabdha > & gt; & gt; though." Let me qualify this. The cat can spring on you > unannounced > & gt; & gt; one day and make a meal of your quotidian angst and complaints > & gt; & gt; such 'I didn't get this, I didn't get that'. The Truine Power > & gt; & gt; appears within and holds out the words: "Okay, first have THIS." > & gt; & gt; That is in a moment. The "suddenness" is in the moment. Not in its > & gt; & gt; ineluctability. Why? Because, you must have prepared for it > & gt; & gt; unwittingly. It has been observed that those who attain to k. had > & gt; & gt; been working with their sheaths unconsciously -- such as the > annmaya > & gt; & gt; ((1st house factor), manomay (4th house f.), vijnaamaya kosha (9th > & gt; & gt; house or 9th to 9th; when it is 9th to 9th you go to a guru as you > & gt; & gt; have gained a measure of enlightenemnt and become aware of the > & gt; & gt; sacredness and seriousness of your existence; so we read diksha > from > & gt; & gt; 5th house). The good work had been accreting in the praanamaya > & gt; & gt; sheath. The hideen treasure reveals its powers - - some in one go, > & gt; & gt; & gt; others by and by -- including the power to alter the currency of > & gt; & gt; existence. > & gt; & gt; & gt; Now you are estblished in the praanamaya kosha. Hold onto it.. > & gt; & gt; & gt; RK > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; & gt; ------------ --------- --------- --- > & gt; & gt; & gt; Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one > & gt; & gt; roof. > & gt; & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; > & gt; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. Download Now! http://messenger./download.php > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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