ShahJahan and AurangJeb - AstroAnalysis

[Guest guest]

Dear Group and Elders,

 

In Shahjahanama, author Mulla Abdul Hamid Lahori has given some

unorganised astro contents, they tell u planetary position at the

time of various events. Presenting Shahjahan and his bad son

Aurangjeb's  available horoscopic details to have an

study of their horoscopes, focusing on -

 

1. massive killing and oppression of siblings.

2. enimical behavior with their fathers.

3. barbaric nature (more in case of Aurangjeb)

4.  exploitation of women ( keeping hundreds of women in the fort)

5.  Aurangjeb's hate for music and dance

6. religious fanatism

 

A ---> Aurangjeb

 

Dob : 03/11/1618

Tob :  20:05 (Acquarius Lagna, pls. check the time, m not sure)

Pob : somewhere in Gujrat.

 

The details i have are as follows -

 

Lagna : Aquarius - Jup

4H : Sat + Moon

6h : Ketu

7H : Mars

9H : Sun + Merc

11H : Ven

12: Rahu

 

B.) And Shahjahan.

 

Oh my god, i forgot to note down his birth details, any way reproducing

his horoscope

 

Lagna : Aquarius

2H : Mars

4H: Sat + Rahu

8H: Moon

10H : Ju

11H : Sun + Ketu+Merc+Venus

 

He did a revolt against Father in Rahu/Moon/Mars but in Sani/Rahu All

his sons were killed by Aurangjeb (another Son).

 

Will give more details tomorrow.

 

regards,

Lalit

[Guest guest]

Lalit Ji It will so nice of you, if you could provide the birth details of Mughal Emperor Shah Jahan as and when it is available with you. Rgds MK Viswanatlitsol <litsol wrote: Dear Group and Elders,In Shahjahanama, author Mulla Abdul Hamid Lahori has given someunorganised astro contents, they tell u planetary position at thetime of various events. Presenting Shahjahan and his bad sonAurangjeb's

available horoscopic details to have anstudy of their horoscopes, focusing on -1. massive killing and oppression of siblings.2. enimical behavior with their fathers.3. barbaric nature (more in case of Aurangjeb)4. exploitation of women ( keeping hundreds of women in the fort)5. Aurangjeb's hate for music and dance6. religious fanatismA ---> AurangjebDob : 03/11/1618Tob : 20:05 (Acquarius Lagna, pls. check the time, m not sure)Pob : somewhere in Gujrat.The details i have are as follows -Lagna : Aquarius - Jup4H : Sat + Moon6h : Ketu7H : Mars9H : Sun + Merc11H : Ven12: RahuB.) And Shahjahan.Oh my god, i forgot to note down his birth details, any way reproducinghis horoscopeLagna : Aquarius2H : Mars4H: Sat + Rahu8H: Moon10H : Ju11H : Sun + Ketu+Merc+VenusHe did a revolt

against Father in Rahu/Moon/Mars but in Sani/Rahu Allhis sons were killed by Aurangjeb (another Son).Will give more details tomorrow.regards,Lalit

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[Guest guest]

Dear Lalit,

 

Check your source. With Aquarius and Jupiter in the Lagna his history

does not suit the chart.

 

Chandrashekhar.

 

litsol wrote:

 

 

Dear Group and Elders,

 

In Shahjahanama, author Mulla Abdul Hamid Lahori has given some

unorganised astro contents, they tell u planetary position at the

time of various events. Presenting Shahjahan and his bad son

Aurangjeb's available horoscopic details to have an

study of their horoscopes, focusing on -

 

1. massive killing and oppression of siblings.

2. enimical behavior with their fathers.

3. barbaric nature (more in case of Aurangjeb)

4. exploitation of women ( keeping hundreds of women in the fort)

5. Aurangjeb's hate for music and dance

6. religious fanatism

 

A ---> Aurangjeb

 

Dob : 03/11/1618

Tob : 20:05 (Acquarius Lagna, pls. check the time, m not sure)

Pob : somewhere in Gujrat.

 

The details i have are as follows -

 

Lagna : Aquarius - Jup

4H : Sat + Moon

6h : Ketu

7H : Mars

9H : Sun + Merc

11H : Ven

12: Rahu

 

B.) And Shahjahan.

 

Oh my god, i forgot to note down his birth details, any way reproducing

his horoscope

 

Lagna : Aquarius

2H : Mars

4H: Sat + Rahu

8H: Moon

10H : Ju

11H : Sun + Ketu+Merc+Venus

 

He did a revolt against Father in Rahu/Moon/Mars but in Sani/Rahu All

his sons were killed by Aurangjeb (another Son).

 

Will give more details tomorrow.

 

regards,

Lalit

[Guest guest]

Dear Viswanath Ji,

 

Namaskaar, Mugal Emperror Shahjahan was born on 5/1/1592 at 14:35

(approx) in Lahore. He was imprisoned in 1658, though i myself have not

checked same in my collection of history books.

 

Somebody who knows perskian has handed over this information to me as

Shahajahanama is written in persian.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , MK Viswanat

<astrologervishy_nair wrote:

>

> Lalit Ji

>

> It will so nice of you, if you could provide the birth details of

Mughal Emperor Shah Jahan as and when it is available with you.

>

> Rgds

> MK Viswanat

>

> litsol litsol wrote:

> Dear Group and Elders,

>

> In Shahjahanama, author Mulla Abdul Hamid Lahori has given some

> unorganised astro contents, they tell u planetary position at the

> time of various events. Presenting Shahjahan and his bad son

> Aurangjeb's available horoscopic details to have an

> study of their horoscopes, focusing on -

>

> 1. massive killing and oppression of siblings.

> 2. enimical behavior with their fathers.

> 3. barbaric nature (more in case of Aurangjeb)

> 4. exploitation of women ( keeping hundreds of women in the fort)

> 5. Aurangjeb's hate for music and dance

> 6. religious fanatism

>

> A ---> Aurangjeb

>

> Dob : 03/11/1618

> Tob : 20:05 (Acquarius Lagna, pls. check the time, m not sure)

> Pob : somewhere in Gujrat.

>

> The details i have are as follows -

>

> Lagna : Aquarius - Jup

> 4H : Sat + Moon

> 6h : Ketu

> 7H : Mars

> 9H : Sun + Merc

> 11H : Ven

> 12: Rahu

>

> B.) And Shahjahan.

>

> Oh my god, i forgot to note down his birth details, any way

reproducing

> his horoscope

>

> Lagna : Aquarius

> 2H : Mars

> 4H: Sat + Rahu

> 8H: Moon

> 10H : Ju

> 11H : Sun + Ketu+Merc+Venus

>

> He did a revolt against Father in Rahu/Moon/Mars but in Sani/Rahu All

> his sons were killed by Aurangjeb (another Son).

>

> Will give more details tomorrow.

>

> regards,

> Lalit

 

> Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now.

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sir,

 

Jupitor's presence has confused me too but Sat + Moon in 4'th house,

and Jup affliction by Saturn's aspect on it, as well as Mars aspect

on lagna gave me thoughts to put the chart in the group for a serious

discussion.

 

Will Sat + Moon combo in 4'th house make a person fanatic and

barberic ?

 

 

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar

<sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

>

> Dear Lalit,

>

> Check your source. With Aquarius and Jupiter in the Lagna his

history

> does not suit the chart.

>

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> litsol wrote:

> >

> > Dear Group and Elders,

> >

> > In Shahjahanama, author Mulla Abdul Hamid Lahori has given some

> > unorganised astro contents, they tell u planetary position at the

> > time of various events. Presenting Shahjahan and his bad son

> > Aurangjeb's available horoscopic details to have an

> > study of their horoscopes, focusing on -

> >

> > 1. massive killing and oppression of siblings.

> > 2. enimical behavior with their fathers.

> > 3. barbaric nature (more in case of Aurangjeb)

> > 4. exploitation of women ( keeping hundreds of women in the fort)

> > 5. Aurangjeb's hate for music and dance

> > 6. religious fanatism

> >

> > A ---> Aurangjeb

> >

> > Dob : 03/11/1618

> > Tob : 20:05 (Acquarius Lagna, pls. check the time, m not sure)

> > Pob : somewhere in Gujrat.

> >

> > The details i have are as follows -

> >

> > Lagna : Aquarius - Jup

> > 4H : Sat + Moon

> > 6h : Ketu

> > 7H : Mars

> > 9H : Sun + Merc

> > 11H : Ven

> > 12: Rahu

> >

> > B.) And Shahjahan.

> >

> > Oh my god, i forgot to note down his birth details, any way

reproducing

> > his horoscope

> >

> > Lagna : Aquarius

> > 2H : Mars

> > 4H: Sat + Rahu

> > 8H: Moon

> > 10H : Ju

> > 11H : Sun + Ketu+Merc+Venus

> >

> > He did a revolt against Father in Rahu/Moon/Mars but in Sani/Rahu

All

> > his sons were killed by Aurangjeb (another Son).

> >

> > Will give more details tomorrow.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Lalit,

 

Saturn- Moon in 4th could indicate an old large house and also the

possibility of a tendency of not speaking truth, necessarily. It could

also indicate a long lived mother. Saturn or Moon not aspecting the th

or 9th I do not think this could mean fanaticism. It is more the

Sun+mars combination that could sometimes indicate this tendency of

showing off his religion.

 

take care,

Chandrashekhar.

 

litsol wrote:

 

 

Dear Sir,

 

Jupitor's presence has confused me too but Sat + Moon in 4'th house,

and Jup affliction by Saturn's aspect on it, as well as Mars aspect

on lagna gave me thoughts to put the chart in the group for a serious

discussion.

 

Will Sat + Moon combo in 4'th house make a person fanatic and

barberic ?

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing ,

Chandrashekhar

<sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

>

> Dear Lalit,

>

> Check your source. With Aquarius and Jupiter in the Lagna his

history

> does not suit the chart.

>

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> litsol wrote:

> >

> > Dear Group and Elders,

> >

> > In Shahjahanama, author Mulla Abdul Hamid Lahori has given

some

> > unorganised astro contents, they tell u planetary position at

the

> > time of various events. Presenting Shahjahan and his bad son

> > Aurangjeb's available horoscopic details to have an

> > study of their horoscopes, focusing on -

> >

> > 1. massive killing and oppression of siblings.

> > 2. enimical behavior with their fathers.

> > 3. barbaric nature (more in case of Aurangjeb)

> > 4. exploitation of women ( keeping hundreds of women in the

fort)

> > 5. Aurangjeb's hate for music and dance

> > 6. religious fanatism

> >

> > A ---> Aurangjeb

> >

> > Dob : 03/11/1618

> > Tob : 20:05 (Acquarius Lagna, pls. check the time, m not sure)

> > Pob : somewhere in Gujrat.

> >

> > The details i have are as follows -

> >

> > Lagna : Aquarius - Jup

> > 4H : Sat + Moon

> > 6h : Ketu

> > 7H : Mars

> > 9H : Sun + Merc

> > 11H : Ven

> > 12: Rahu

> >

> > B.) And Shahjahan.

> >

> > Oh my god, i forgot to note down his birth details, any way

reproducing

> > his horoscope

> >

> > Lagna : Aquarius

> > 2H : Mars

> > 4H: Sat + Rahu

> > 8H: Moon

> > 10H : Ju

> > 11H : Sun + Ketu+Merc+Venus

> >

> > He did a revolt against Father in Rahu/Moon/Mars but in

Sani/Rahu

All

> > his sons were killed by Aurangjeb (another Son).

> >

> > Will give more details tomorrow.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sir,

 

I have cross checked the birth details of Aurangjeb with what's given

in Notable Horoscopes of Sri BV Raman, it matches, so, there is no

doubt on auhtenticity.

 

i care the authenticity issue of messages while posting any content

in the group,if i find myself not sure of, i put the comments that i

m not sure.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar

<sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

>

> Dear Lalit,

>

> Saturn- Moon in 4th could indicate an old large house and also the

> possibility of a tendency of not speaking truth, necessarily. It

could

> also indicate a long lived mother. Saturn or Moon not aspecting

the th

> or 9th I do not think this could mean fanaticism. It is more the

> Sun+mars combination that could sometimes indicate this tendency of

> showing off his religion.

>

> take care,

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> litsol wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sir,

> >

> > Jupitor's presence has confused me too but Sat + Moon in 4'th

house,

> > and Jup affliction by Saturn's aspect on it, as well as Mars

aspect

> > on lagna gave me thoughts to put the chart in the group for a

serious

> > discussion.

> >

> > Will Sat + Moon combo in 4'th house make a person fanatic and

> > barberic ?

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing

> > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>,

Chandrashekhar

> > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Lalit,

> > >

> > > Check your source. With Aquarius and Jupiter in the Lagna his

> > history

> > > does not suit the chart.

> > >

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > litsol wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Group and Elders,

> > > >

> > > > In Shahjahanama, author Mulla Abdul Hamid Lahori has given

some

> > > > unorganised astro contents, they tell u planetary position at

the

> > > > time of various events. Presenting Shahjahan and his bad son

> > > > Aurangjeb's available horoscopic details to have an

> > > > study of their horoscopes, focusing on -

> > > >

> > > > 1. massive killing and oppression of siblings.

> > > > 2. enimical behavior with their fathers.

> > > > 3. barbaric nature (more in case of Aurangjeb)

> > > > 4. exploitation of women ( keeping hundreds of women in the

fort)

> > > > 5. Aurangjeb's hate for music and dance

> > > > 6. religious fanatism

> > > >

> > > > A ---> Aurangjeb

> > > >

> > > > Dob : 03/11/1618

> > > > Tob : 20:05 (Acquarius Lagna, pls. check the time, m not sure)

> > > > Pob : somewhere in Gujrat.

> > > >

> > > > The details i have are as follows -

> > > >

> > > > Lagna : Aquarius - Jup

> > > > 4H : Sat + Moon

> > > > 6h : Ketu

> > > > 7H : Mars

> > > > 9H : Sun + Merc

> > > > 11H : Ven

> > > > 12: Rahu

> > > >

> > > > B.) And Shahjahan.

> > > >

> > > > Oh my god, i forgot to note down his birth details, any way

> > reproducing

> > > > his horoscope

> > > >

> > > > Lagna : Aquarius

> > > > 2H : Mars

> > > > 4H: Sat + Rahu

> > > > 8H: Moon

> > > > 10H : Ju

> > > > 11H : Sun + Ketu+Merc+Venus

> > > >

> > > > He did a revolt against Father in Rahu/Moon/Mars but in

Sani/Rahu

> > All

> > > > his sons were killed by Aurangjeb (another Son).

> > > >

> > > > Will give more details tomorrow.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lalit

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Lalit,

 

With 20.05 time the lagna is Taurus. Stanley Lane-Pode records the date

of his birth as 3rd November 1618. Then some reference says he was born

on 4th of November and not the 3rd. Some historians, like Jadunath

Sarkar, claim that "Mohyuddin Muhammad Aurangzeb" was born on October

24, 1618 CE at Dohad. Pandit Shrikant Shastry of Varanasi,

records it as Samvat 1675 (Source Bipin Bihari), which is equal to 1619

Christian era on a Saturday at 18 Ghatikas 30 Palas after sunrise on

3rd November 1618 and talks of Aquarius rising with Jupiter there and

Sun in Libra at 23 degrees 25'. This is 7 hours 16 minutes 20 seconds

from Sunrise. Sunrise on that day is at 6.6. 02, so the time of birth

is 13 Hrs. 22 Minutes 22 seconds or so. This does give the Lagna as

Aquarius. However Sun does not get 23 and odd degrees. As you can see

neither of the charts show Saturday as the day of his birth. So that

data does appear to be suspect.

 

Of course if Dr. Raman gave it in his book, who am I to doubt it?

 

Chandrashekhar.

 

litsol wrote:

 

 

Dear Sir,

 

I have cross checked the birth details of Aurangjeb with what's given

in Notable Horoscopes of Sri BV Raman, it matches, so, there is no

doubt on auhtenticity.

 

i care the authenticity issue of messages while posting any content

in the group,if i find myself not sure of, i put the comments that i

m not sure.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing ,

Chandrashekhar

<sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

>

> Dear Lalit,

>

> Saturn- Moon in 4th could indicate an old large house and also the

 

> possibility of a tendency of not speaking truth, necessarily. It

could

> also indicate a long lived mother. Saturn or Moon not aspecting

the th

> or 9th I do not think this could mean fanaticism. It is more the

> Sun+mars combination that could sometimes indicate this tendency

of

> showing off his religion.

>

> take care,

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> litsol wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sir,

> >

> > Jupitor's presence has confused me too but Sat + Moon in 4'th

 

house,

> > and Jup affliction by Saturn's aspect on it, as well as Mars

aspect

> > on lagna gave me thoughts to put the chart in the group for a

 

serious

> > discussion.

> >

> > Will Sat + Moon combo in 4'th house make a person fanatic and

> > barberic ?

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing

 

> > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>,

 

Chandrashekhar

> > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Lalit,

> > >

> > > Check your source. With Aquarius and Jupiter in the

Lagna his

> > history

> > > does not suit the chart.

> > >

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > litsol wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Group and Elders,

> > > >

> > > > In Shahjahanama, author Mulla Abdul Hamid Lahori

has given

some

> > > > unorganised astro contents, they tell u planetary

position at

the

> > > > time of various events. Presenting Shahjahan and

his bad son

> > > > Aurangjeb's available horoscopic details to have an

> > > > study of their horoscopes, focusing on -

> > > >

> > > > 1. massive killing and oppression of siblings.

> > > > 2. enimical behavior with their fathers.

> > > > 3. barbaric nature (more in case of Aurangjeb)

> > > > 4. exploitation of women ( keeping hundreds of

women in the

fort)

> > > > 5. Aurangjeb's hate for music and dance

> > > > 6. religious fanatism

> > > >

> > > > A ---> Aurangjeb

> > > >

> > > > Dob : 03/11/1618

> > > > Tob : 20:05 (Acquarius Lagna, pls. check the time,

m not sure)

> > > > Pob : somewhere in Gujrat.

> > > >

> > > > The details i have are as follows -

> > > >

> > > > Lagna : Aquarius - Jup

> > > > 4H : Sat + Moon

> > > > 6h : Ketu

> > > > 7H : Mars

> > > > 9H : Sun + Merc

> > > > 11H : Ven

> > > > 12: Rahu

> > > >

> > > > B.) And Shahjahan.

> > > >

> > > > Oh my god, i forgot to note down his birth details,

any way

> > reproducing

> > > > his horoscope

> > > >

> > > > Lagna : Aquarius

> > > > 2H : Mars

> > > > 4H: Sat + Rahu

> > > > 8H: Moon

> > > > 10H : Ju

> > > > 11H : Sun + Ketu+Merc+Venus

> > > >

> > > > He did a revolt against Father in Rahu/Moon/Mars

but in

Sani/Rahu

> > All

> > > > his sons were killed by Aurangjeb (another Son).

> > > >

> > > > Will give more details tomorrow.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lalit

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Respected Chandrashekhar Sir,

 

According to Dr. Raman's book, the time of birth of Aurangzeb is 13.47 hours (1.47 pm). DoB is same as provided in the group. I have verified the Lagna Kundali with these details by using a software.

 

Thanks and Regards,

saurabh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

************************************************************** & quot;KUCHH SAPANON KE MAR JAANE SE JEEVAN NAHIN MARAA KARATAA HAI & quot;**************************************************************--- On Wed, 11/6/08, Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekharRe: [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: ShahJahan and AurangJeb - AstroAnalysisVedic Astrologyandhealing Date: Wednesday, 11 June, 2008, 12:31 AM

 

 

Dear Lalit,With 20.05 time the lagna is Taurus. Stanley Lane-Pode records the date of his birth as 3rd November 1618. Then some reference says he was born on 4th of November and not the 3rd. Some historians, like Jadunath Sarkar, claim that "Mohyuddin Muhammad Aurangzeb" was born on October 24, 1618 CE at Dohad. Pandit Shrikant Shastry of Varanasi, records it as Samvat 1675 (Source Bipin Bihari), which is equal to 1619 Christian era on a Saturday at 18 Ghatikas 30 Palas after sunrise on 3rd November 1618 and talks of Aquarius rising with Jupiter there and Sun in Libra at 23 degrees 25'. This is 7 hours 16 minutes 20 seconds from Sunrise. Sunrise on that day is at 6.6. 02, so the time of birth is 13 Hrs. 22 Minutes 22 seconds or so. This does give the Lagna as Aquarius. However Sun does not get 23 and odd degrees. As you can see neither of the charts show Saturday as the day of his birth. So that data does appear to be suspect.Of

course if Dr. Raman gave it in his book, who am I to doubt it?Chandrashekhar.litsol wrote:

 

Dear Sir,I have cross checked the birth details of Aurangjeb with what's given in Notable Horoscopes of Sri BV Raman, it matches, so, there is no doubt on auhtenticity.i care the authenticity issue of messages while posting any content in the group,if i find myself not sure of, i put the comments that i m not sure.regards,Lalit.Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashek har wrote:>> Dear Lalit,> > Saturn- Moon in 4th could indicate an old large house and also the > possibility of a tendency of not speaking truth, necessarily. It could > also indicate a long lived mother. Saturn or Moon not aspecting the th > or 9th I do not think this could mean fanaticism. It is more the > Sun+mars

combination that could sometimes indicate this tendency of > showing off his religion.> > take care,> Chandrashekhar.> > litsol wrote:> >> > Dear Sir,> >> > Jupitor's presence has confused me too but Sat + Moon in 4'th house,> > and Jup affliction by Saturn's aspect on it, as well as Mars aspect> > on lagna gave me thoughts to put the chart in the group for a serious> > discussion.> >> > Will Sat + Moon combo in 4'th house make a person fanatic and> > barberic ?> >> > regards,> > Lalit..> >> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com > > <vedicastrol

ogyandhealing% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar> > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Lalit,> > >> > > Check your source. With Aquarius and Jupiter in the Lagna his> > history> > > does not suit the chart.> > >> > > Chandrashekhar.> > >> > > litsol wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Group and Elders,> > > >> > > > In Shahjahanama, author Mulla Abdul Hamid Lahori has given some> > > > unorganised astro contents, they tell u planetary position at the> > > > time of various events. Presenting Shahjahan and his bad son> > > > Aurangjeb's available horoscopic details to have an> > > > study of their horoscopes, focusing on -> > > >> > > >

1. massive killing and oppression of siblings.> > > > 2. enimical behavior with their fathers.> > > > 3. barbaric nature (more in case of Aurangjeb)> > > > 4. exploitation of women ( keeping hundreds of women in the fort)> > > > 5. Aurangjeb's hate for music and dance> > > > 6. religious fanatism> > > >> > > > A ---> Aurangjeb> > > >> > > > Dob : 03/11/1618> > > > Tob : 20:05 (Acquarius Lagna, pls. check the time, m not sure)> > > > Pob : somewhere in Gujrat.> > > >> > > > The details i have are as follows -> > > >> > > > Lagna : Aquarius - Jup> > > > 4H : Sat + Moon> > > > 6h : Ketu> > > > 7H : Mars> > > > 9H : Sun + Merc> > > >

11H : Ven> > > > 12: Rahu> > > >> > > > B.) And Shahjahan.> > > >> > > > Oh my god, i forgot to note down his birth details, any way> > reproducing> > > > his horoscope> > > >> > > > Lagna : Aquarius> > > > 2H : Mars> > > > 4H: Sat + Rahu> > > > 8H: Moon> > > > 10H : Ju> > > > 11H : Sun + Ketu+Merc+Venus> > > >> > > > He did a revolt against Father in Rahu/Moon/Mars but in Sani/Rahu> > All> > > > his sons were killed by Aurangjeb (another Son).> > > >> > > > Will give more details tomorrow.> > > >> > > > regards,> > > > Lalit> > > >> > > >> > >>

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Dear Saurabh,

 

That is fine. Only the facts of Aurangjeb's life as known do not seem

to fit the chart.

 

Chandrashekhar.

 

saurabh chaturvedi wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Chandrashekhar Sir,

 

According to Dr. Raman's book, the time of birth of

Aurangzeb is 13.47 hours (1.47 pm). DoB is same as provided in the

group. I have verified the Lagna Kundali with these details by using a

software.

 

Thanks and Regards,

 saurabh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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--- On Wed, 11/6/08, Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar >

wrote:

 

 

Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar >

Re: [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: ShahJahan and

AurangJeb - AstroAnalysis

Vedic Astrologyandhealing

Wednesday, 11 June, 2008, 12:31 AM

 

 

 

Dear Lalit,

 

With 20.05 time the lagna is Taurus. Stanley Lane-Pode records the date

of his birth as 3rd November 1618. Then some reference says he was born

on 4th of November and not the 3rd. Some historians, like Jadunath

Sarkar, claim that "Mohyuddin Muhammad Aurangzeb" was born on October

24, 1618 CE at Dohad. Pandit Shrikant Shastry of Varanasi, records it

as Samvat 1675 (Source Bipin Bihari), which is equal to 1619 Christian

era on a Saturday at 18 Ghatikas 30 Palas after sunrise on 3rd November

1618 and talks of Aquarius rising with Jupiter there and Sun in Libra

at 23 degrees 25'. This is 7 hours 16 minutes 20 seconds from Sunrise.

Sunrise on that day is at 6.6. 02, so the time of birth is  13 Hrs. 22

Minutes 22 seconds or so. This does give the Lagna as Aquarius. However

Sun does not get 23 and odd degrees. As you can see neither of the

charts show Saturday as the day of his birth. So that data does appear

to be suspect.

 

Of course if Dr. Raman gave it in his book, who am I to doubt it?

 

Chandrashekhar.

 

litsol wrote:

 

 

Dear Sir,

 

I have cross checked the birth details of Aurangjeb with what's given

in Notable Horoscopes of Sri BV Raman, it matches, so, there is no

doubt on auhtenticity.

 

i care the authenticity issue of messages while posting any content

in the group,if i find myself not sure of, i put the comments that i

m not sure.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@

s.com, Chandrashekhar

<sharma.chandrashek har wrote:

>

> Dear Lalit,

>

> Saturn- Moon in 4th could indicate an old large house and also the

 

> possibility of a tendency of not speaking truth, necessarily. It

could

> also indicate a long lived mother. Saturn or Moon not aspecting

the th

> or 9th I do not think this could mean fanaticism. It is more the

> Sun+mars combination that could sometimes indicate this tendency

of

> showing off his religion.

>

> take care,

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> litsol wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sir,

> >

> > Jupitor's presence has confused me too but Sat + Moon in 4'th

 

house,

> > and Jup affliction by Saturn's aspect on it, as well as Mars

aspect

> > on lagna gave me thoughts to put the chart in the group for a

 

serious

> > discussion.

> >

> > Will Sat + Moon combo in 4'th house make a person fanatic and

> > barberic ?

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit..

> >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@

s.com

> > <vedicastrol

ogyandhealing% 40. com>,

Chandrashekhar

> > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Lalit,

> > >

> > > Check your source. With Aquarius and Jupiter in the

Lagna his

> > history

> > > does not suit the chart.

> > >

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > litsol wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Group and Elders,

> > > >

> > > > In Shahjahanama, author Mulla Abdul Hamid Lahori

has given

some

> > > > unorganised astro contents, they tell u planetary

position at

the

> > > > time of various events. Presenting Shahjahan and

his bad son

> > > > Aurangjeb's available horoscopic details to have an

> > > > study of their horoscopes, focusing on -

> > > >

> > > > 1. massive killing and oppression of siblings.

> > > > 2. enimical behavior with their fathers.

> > > > 3. barbaric nature (more in case of Aurangjeb)

> > > > 4. exploitation of women ( keeping hundreds of

women in the

fort)

> > > > 5. Aurangjeb's hate for music and dance

> > > > 6. religious fanatism

> > > >

> > > > A ---> Aurangjeb

> > > >

> > > > Dob : 03/11/1618

> > > > Tob : 20:05 (Acquarius Lagna, pls. check the time,

m not sure)

> > > > Pob : somewhere in Gujrat.

> > > >

> > > > The details i have are as follows -

> > > >

> > > > Lagna : Aquarius - Jup

> > > > 4H : Sat + Moon

> > > > 6h : Ketu

> > > > 7H : Mars

> > > > 9H : Sun + Merc

> > > > 11H : Ven

> > > > 12: Rahu

> > > >

> > > > B.) And Shahjahan.

> > > >

> > > > Oh my god, i forgot to note down his birth details,

any way

> > reproducing

> > > > his horoscope

> > > >

> > > > Lagna : Aquarius

> > > > 2H : Mars

> > > > 4H: Sat + Rahu

> > > > 8H: Moon

> > > > 10H : Ju

> > > > 11H : Sun + Ketu+Merc+Venus

> > > >

> > > > He did a revolt against Father in Rahu/Moon/Mars

but in

Sani/Rahu

> > All

> > > > his sons were killed by Aurangjeb (another Son).

> > > >

> > > > Will give more details tomorrow.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lalit

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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