Guest guest Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 Dear Group, I didnt see much depth in any of the approach posted to the group, some posts are addressing to one aspect while some other are addressing another. Let's have a look of classics to update ur understanding - 1. Take : strength of Sun, Jup and Mars in one's chart, do a synthesis, Let's define it as " G " . Why ? Sun - > is said to be a karaka for " AatmSaukhyam Pratapam Dhiryam .. " Jup - > is said to be a karkaa for " Gaurava .. " Mars - > is said to be a karka for " Sahasam Vidvesham Ari .. " and most importantly Chhita Samunnati Utshaham (High Feeling/High Opinion) 2. Take : Negativity given by Merc, Saturn in one's chart because Mercury is the graha which makes one most compromising and adjusting, Saturn is the graha which fills in inferiority in one's persona, the graha for servitude. Let's define it as " L " 3. Now, try to judge the difference, the " G " - " L " , you will get to know how is one's personality, his inner strength. if there is a tie, give judgement on the basis of Moon's strength. 4. Understand the strength of Lagna, No need to elaborate the importance of Lagna, It's - " AatmaDeepa " . The native born in last degrees of lagna does not have much vigor to oppose next person bluntly, they try to avoid expressing their such opinions which they find the next person will not like, they do it as much as they can. 5. Now, Most important place is 10'th the " Maansthaana .. " classics have clearly said - " AngitAgyo Abhimanisyat (Self Proud) Maane Jeeve (Guru) Athva Shubhe, Tadeeshe Shubh Sambandhe Shubh Madhye Gate Asthava " . Means : if 10'th is occupied by Ju/Benific and 10'th lord is well placed The Native is Abhimani and he is " AngitAgyo " , Do u understand what's " AngiTagya " It means able to read one's thoughts. This is the reason, why i m able to read, people just by at a glance, and such a people who make a lot of excercise or pretention for a display, for their fake self projection, and that for years and years gets destroyed by me. ---- You can ignore it, It's for the crowed of net astrologers ------ Now, to whom i may sound foolish, only to people who are underdeveloped and to whom a compromise is the best way of life, I cant be like such people, You have to learn a lot from me. First, u update ur astrological knowledge, develop trust in what u study in one's horoscope, this requires a degree of accuracy and accuracy requires deep study of basics, where most crowd is very weak. You are not blessed with any divine blessings, any experience, you have only listened to that, I have lived that, That's what is a myth for you, is a experienced truth, a fard core easy fact for me. -------------------------------- Another shloka - " Lagneshe Maan RashiSthey (10'th) RajyasyoAdhiPatir Bhavet, ManavassuGunaischa Divalakhan Sanyukta " . Note the term - Maan (Esteem) and Guna (Quality) of the native is stated here. 6. The 3rd house, The Power to oppose, Only one shloka of Jataka Parijaata is enough, " Parakram Sahasaani .... Dhairyam Veeryam Balam .. " Note, PhalaDeepika explicitly says, it's " Dushikya " , Merc and Moon placed here, can make a person timid. 7. The 6'th house, 6'th is the Power to execute action against Opponents, 6'th signifies humilation, Fear, servitude and inferiority complex, see, if Saturn and Rahu are present there, or if Saturn aspects this house a.) " Ari Vya Sankshathani Duktam .. " b.) " Duskritygya Bheeta ... Avagyaaha " 8.) One's sovereign,royal nature is to be seen from the 5'th house. Put those factors togather, and judge a horoscope, You will be able to understand how seriously one takes his self esteem and how proud he is. regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Prabodh Vekhande " <amolmandar wrote: > > Dear Lalit ji Namaste > > With the 5th lord debilitated & afflicted and with fractured 5th > house there is a chance for you to get in the state of low self > esteem. Sometimes it leads to false self esteem as well! Lagna lord > although causing Mahapurush yoga is in wrong direction. Thats why you > sound foolish to many! Fortunately, dasha rashi is 6th from the > lagna, 3rd from AL and 10th from the Moon with the Sun and Mars. It > also contains the dashesh and misdirected Mars in Magha. That gives > a very aggresive disposition and Dambha as well. Rahu is palced 6th > from the dasha rashi and that is why you have been fighting with Rahu > like people. So right now there is not much of the problem regarding > self esteem. > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. > > Prabodh Vekhande > Jai Jai Shankar > Har Har Shankar > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " > <litsol@> wrote: > > > > Dear Prabodh Ji, > > > > Pls. consider my debilated moon placed in 9'th and my personality. > In > > the office, in the groups and in the outer world activities, > > everywhere i have eliminated fakes, clever powerful pakhandis, What > > about my self respect with ur's analysis ? > > > > Definitely, Along with moon there are at least 2 more things to be > > included in the judgement of Self Esteem. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Prabodh Vekhande " > > <amolmandar@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Neenu ji Namaste > > > > > > Nothing is trivial in Vedic Astrology! Is it not? Being Manatra > > Bhava > > > it is responsible for controling mana and budhi through thought > > > process. Self is Lagna and its Vidya/Liking/Worth will be 5th > from > > > self. Afflicted 5th house or lord will create problems related to > > > these things. In my view,lack/low self esteem is more of a > problem > > > related to Budhi than Mana. Debilitation of the Moon may result > in > > > lack of motivation based on right or wrong. Thats why these > people > > > have very pragmatic approch towards problems. When this gets in > > > lagna, it may lead to selfcenteredness. > > > > > > So low esteem may be because of budhi/vidya and not because of > > mana. > > > In your case lagna lord is well placed so problem should be with > > 5th > > > house and 5th lord. Since it is afflicted and is in dasa rashi, > you > > > may have problems related to that. > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > Jai Jai Shankar > > > Har Har Shankar > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " mechumla " > > > <mechumla@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Prabodh ji, > > > > > > > > Thanks for the suggestions. Just out of curiosity, and may > sound > > > like > > > > a triviial question for you, why would 5th lord represent self > > > > esteem. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Neenu > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Prabodh > > Vekhande " > > > > <amolmandar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Neenu Namaste > > > > > > > > > > With the 6th lord loosing in Graha Yuddha and 10th > > lord,although > > > > > exalted, conjuct 8th lord it should be difficult for you to > get > > > > into > > > > > service and/or work. Specifically when 2nd lord badly > afflicted > > > in > > > > > the 10th house. I think you should get back to working when > > > Simha > > > > > dasa ends in May 2009. The Neecha and Vargottama Moon in > > lagna > > > > may > > > > > be problematic but being 4th from the dasa rashi is good. The > > > lack > > > > of > > > > > self esteem is possibly because of 5th lord afflicted badly > and > > > all > > > > > malefics in the dasa rasi. This is the time when you should > > > adjust > > > > to > > > > > listen others as aarudha falls in the 7th from the dasa > rashi. > > > > > > > > > > You can boost yourself by doing Chandi Navarna mantra. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > > > Jai Jai Shankar > > > > > Har Har Shankar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " mechumla " > > > > > <mechumla@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh ji and others, > > > > > > > > > > > > As mentioned by you my moon is debilitated in lagna. I > > believe > > > > its > > > > > > also debiliated in navamsa. Its aspected by Mars in both > > rashi > > > > and > > > > > > navamsa, i do not know what that means. However, do you > think > > > it > > > > is > > > > > > the cause of my low self esteem or mood swings which > > generally > > > > take > > > > > > me to depression. In fact much of my failures in terms of > > > > finding > > > > > a > > > > > > job has been in my inability to believe in myself. What > would > > > you > > > > > > suggest to strengthen or boost my self confidence, in terms > > of > > > my > > > > > > chart. Many others have also said, I should have a good > > > > career, > > > > > > but the very statement puts me in disbelief, as i have no > > > > > confidence > > > > > > in my capabilities, and neither have i seen any success in > > > career > > > > ( > > > > > > which spanned only for a year in 2006-2007). Rest of my > > > duration > > > > in > > > > > > US has been as a student. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > neenu > > > > > > (neelay is my official name, but everyone at home calls me > > > neenu, > > > > > > clarification because i signed of in another mail as > neelay) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Ramesh F. > > > > > > Gangaramani " <rgangaramani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Chandrashekharji, Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Allow me to continue my learning through following > > questions; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. What are the factors that would show her getting a > > > > new job > > > > > > before > > > > > > > Aug 1st? > > > > > > > 2. Kindly also explain Ketu PD (Savana) getting > > > > preference over > > > > > > Saturn > > > > > > > or Mercury for marriage? > > > > > > > 3. What is the impact of Sun- Mars parivartana in this > > > > chart? > > > > > > > 4. Chart has many good yogas but Moon is weak? Would you > > > > > > recommend > > > > > > > strengthening it? Mars is in Kendra from Moon and lagna > in > > D1 > > > > but > > > > > > only from > > > > > > > Moon in D9! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kind Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > > > > [Vedic Astrologyandhealing ] On > Behalf > > Of > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > > Wednesday, June 11, 2008 2:14 PM > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > > > > > Re: [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: Work and > > marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Neenu, > > > > > > > Do keep me posted. With Saturn aspecting the 7th the > > > > possibility > > > > > of > > > > > > you > > > > > > > marrying someone who is mature, whether in age of > thoughts, > > > > does > > > > > > exist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it will be a marriage that is done with the > consent > > > of > > > > > > parents. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mechumla wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your reply. Cant wait to get a job > > now.Will > > > > > > > definitely let you know if there is a good news in > August. > > > Btw, > > > > > > > regarding marriage do you see me getting married to > someone > > > > much > > > > > > > older like about little more then 10 yrs of difference. > > There > > > > is > > > > > > one > > > > > > > person whom I currently know is very interested. However, > I > > > am > > > > > not > > > > > > > sure about the whole thing because of age difference and > > > other > > > > > > > factors.Will it be an arranged marriage for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Neenu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe > > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > > aling , > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Neenu, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think you may have a chance of getting married only > > after > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > moves to Capricorn and the marriage could be around the > > > time > > > > of > > > > > > > Ketu > > > > > > > > pratyantar beginning 18.4.2009. Both your Pati karaka > > > Jupiter > > > > > and > > > > > > > > Darakaraka Venus who is also the 7th lord are > afflicted. > > So > > > > > there > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > be some problems in your marriage getting fixed. You > may > > > get > > > > > some > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > job offer around 1st of August at the latest. I do not > > > think > > > > > you > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > come back to INDIA, in near future. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mechumla wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I forgot to give time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is my birth data again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May 2, 1980 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 20:30 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Haldwani (Nainital) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe > > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40> > > > > > > aling > > > > > > > > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing% > > > > > 40>, " mechumla " > > > > > > > > > <mechumla@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would greatly appreciate if some members could shed > > > light > > > > > on > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > will marriage or proper job happen for me. By > > education > > > I > > > > > > have > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > > > advanced degree in computer science, and i am in US > > for > > > > > past > > > > > > > eight > > > > > > > > > > years. However,due to combination of mistakes , and > > ill > > > > > luck > > > > > > I > > > > > > > havent > > > > > > > > > > still got a proper job. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am in a dilema as to whether i should return to > > > India, > > > > or > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > > > foreign shores another year of try. Failures on > both > > > > front > > > > > > job > > > > > > > and no > > > > > > > > > > marriage is eroding my confidence day by day. Would > > > > greatly > > > > > > > > > > appreciate if someone could tell when will > situation > > > > > improve. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Female. > > > > > > > > > > may 2, 1980 > > > > > > > > > > Haldwani (Nainital) Uttarnchal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > neenu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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