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Dear Chandrashekharji, members:

We are told that yogas override the usual placement of planets in a chart. By usual, I mean this lord going to that house, and this planet being in such and such rasi.

I came across a chart which displays quite a few rajayogas. We know that alongside the good yogas there would be some adverse yogas, some of them serious, undercutting the rajayogas. It makes sense to study yogas, both good and adverse, only in context – that is, with actual charts. The chart I have for case study here is one that has rajayoga-causing planets involving the tenth house and dhanayoga involving the 11th house. There is a panchamahapurusha yoga as also gaja-kesari yoga. The chart escapes kemadruma yoga. Briefly, the 11th house has Jup and Ven while the 10th house has lord Mec along with 9th lord Sun and 5th lord Mars.

What are the strengths of the yogas present in the chart? Do serious adverse yogas or other underlying factors undercut the surface promises? How do we track such factors when they are present and where not to apply them? This I think is very important in the final lap of reading a chart.

Some baseline cancellation-factors advanced by some are like this: weak lagna and bhagyabhava, by extension lagna lord and bhagya lord are malefic-afflicted; planets causing rajayoga are ill-disposed in vargas, especially navamsa; the dasa of rajayoga-causing planet(s) runs in childhood or old age; luminaries, esp. Sun, are in run-down state; (even) veeparita rajayoga(s) being present alongside emphatic rajayoga (?). [The last condition, I think, must be approached/handled not in abstraction but empirically.]

The native is half way through lagna lord dasa which is Jup, but going by the run of antardasas in lagna lord's mahadasa, the rajayoga effects – the effects particularly of rajyesh in rajyasthana conjunct bhagyesh that is Sun – are none too foreseeable. Arguably, the mahadasa of planets linked to the rajyasthana is not in operation till after 60, when Mec mahadasa kicks in; the mahadasa of Mars involved in 10th house ran in childhood. Now, 10th house not coming into play by way of mahadasa – is that the overall decider in this case?

The native is extroverted, sociable and has a large circle of contacts. A self-made person so far, he is a self-employed CA. He considers himself lucky as a husband.

The chart is in the file section of the group under the name, 'kshitish chart'.

RK

 

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Dear RKDa,

 

Personally, I do not think yogas can overcome placement and bhava

lordship of the grahas involved in any yoga. As a matter of fact I have

commented heavily on this aspect in my book. I have commented on the

effects of Gajkesari yoga, in different bhavas and rasis, extensively

therein.

 

Having said that let us come to your propositions and queries. 9th lord

of the jataka being Sun the Lagna is obviously Dhanu. For Dhanu lagna

Ravi-Budha do cause a strong Raj yoga. Guru the lagna Lord with Venus

the 6th and 2nd Lord in 11th does indicate that he will earn by the

dint of his own efforts. Jupiter having a tendency to harm the house

occupied could mean he will not earn as much as he should or could.

Mars, besides the 5th lord is also the lord of the 12th and if he gets

some work from distant lands he could do very well. His son could as

well join his business. The person is already a CA as you said so he

must be earning quite well and the Raj yogas have already apparently

been operating for him.

 

I am sure he must be having some marital problems as Saturn in debility

aspects the 7th but aspect of Jupiter from 11th will tone down the

problems.

 

He is running Jupiter Sun at present with Jupiter in Lagna and I would

think he could have acquired or about to acquire some property at this

point of time.

 

His raj yogas would operate in Ketu, Mars and first half of Jupiter

dashas/ antardashas etc when the benefics connect to the 11th or the

10th or in trine/ square position to them or 7th from them. He is born

in around Abhijit muhurta and I would say his raj yogas are quite

strong. He can have the capacity to become a leader of men, if he is

that way inclined. I would think there would have been some deficiency

in Pitru Sukha for him and his financial stage from the time he was

born must be substantially high.

 

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

 

arkaydash wrote:

 

 

Dear

Chandrashekharji, members:

 

 

We are told

that yogas override the usual placement of planets in a chart. By

usual, I mean this lord going to that house, and this planet being

in such and such rasi.

I came

across a chart which displays quite a few rajayogas. We know that

alongside the good yogas there would be some adverse yogas, some of

them serious, undercutting the rajayogas. It makes sense to study

yogas, both good and adverse, only in context – that is, with actual

charts. The chart I have for case study here is one that has

rajayoga-causing planets involving the tenth house and dhanayoga

involving the 11th house. There is a panchamahapurusha yoga as also

gaja-kesari yoga. The chart escapes kemadruma yoga. Briefly, the 11th

house has Jup and Ven while the 10th house has lord Mec along with 9th

lord Sun and 5th lord Mars.

What are

the strengths of the yogas present in the chart? Do serious adverse

yogas or other underlying factors undercut the surface promises? How do

we track such factors when they are present and where not to apply

them? This I think is very important in the final lap of reading a

chart.

Some

baseline cancellation-factors advanced by some are like this: weak

lagna and bhagyabhava, by extension lagna lord and bhagya lord are

malefic-afflicted; planets causing rajayoga are ill-disposed in vargas,

especially navamsa; the dasa of rajayoga-causing planet(s) runs in

childhood or old age; luminaries, esp. Sun, are in run-down state;

(even) veeparita rajayoga(s) being present alongside emphatic rajayoga

(?). [The last condition, I think, must be approached/handled not in

abstraction but empirically.]

The native

is half way through lagna lord dasa which is Jup, but going by the run

of antardasas in lagna lord's mahadasa, the rajayoga effects – the

effects particularly of rajyesh in rajyasthana conjunct bhagyesh that

is Sun – are none too foreseeable. Arguably, the mahadasa of planets

linked to the rajyasthana is not in operation till after 60, when Mec

mahadasa kicks in; the mahadasa of Mars involved in 10th

house ran in childhood. Now, 10th house not coming into play

by way of mahadasa – is that the overall decider in this

case?

The native

is extroverted, sociable and has a large circle of contacts. A

self-made person so far, he is a self-employed CA. He considers himself

lucky as a husband.

The chart

is in the file section of the group under the name, 'kshitish chart'.

RK

 

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Dear Chandrashekharji,

Thanks. I think a final appraisal of a chart must rely on yogas where there are big-ticket yogas, either way -- on the principle here too of more-than-the-sum-of-parts. What I meant was not the blurring of bhava lordship of grahas involved in yogas, as that is almost always a component of a yoga. What is my considered (and largely received) opinion is that lords not involved in yogas going to this or that house falls by the wayside while yogas ride through. Thus, they (yogas) override.

While I tend to accept the approach to allocating variable results for a rajayoga like this (be it Gajakesari or Panchamahapurusha or Adhiyoga or Amala Yoga) where lordship is not at issue, may I point out that such bhava- and rasi-based distinctions are not covered in any of the moola-granthas. Probably you have tested this approach well enough.

Venus in the example chart is 11th & 6th lord. You say "...when the benefics connect to the 11th or the 10th or in trine/ square position to them or 7th from them..." Benefics in gochara?

Thanking you again,

RK

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:>> Dear RKDa,> > Personally, I do not think yogas can overcome placement and bhava > lordship of the grahas involved in any yoga. As a matter of fact I have > commented heavily on this aspect in my book. I have commented on the > effects of Gajkesari yoga, in different bhavas and rasis, extensively > therein.> > Having said that let us come to your propositions and queries. 9th lord > of the jataka being Sun the Lagna is obviously Dhanu. For Dhanu lagna > Ravi-Budha do cause a strong Raj yoga. Guru the lagna Lord with Venus > the 6th and 2nd Lord in 11th does indicate that he will earn by the dint > of his own efforts. Jupiter having a tendency to harm the house occupied > could mean he will not earn as much as he should or could. Mars, besides > the 5th lord is also the lord of the 12th and if he gets some work from > distant lands he could do very well. His son could as well join his > business. The person is already a CA as you said so he must be earning > quite well and the Raj yogas have already apparently been operating for > him.> > I am sure he must be having some marital problems as Saturn in debility > aspects the 7th but aspect of Jupiter from 11th will tone down the problems.> > He is running Jupiter Sun at present with Jupiter in Lagna and I would > think he could have acquired or about to acquire some property at this > point of time.> > His raj yogas would operate in Ketu, Mars and first half of Jupiter > dashas/ antardashas etc when the benefics connect to the 11th or the > 10th or in trine/ square position to them or 7th from them. He is born > in around Abhijit muhurta and I would say his raj yogas are quite > strong. He can have the capacity to become a leader of men, if he is > that way inclined. I would think there would have been some deficiency > in Pitru Sukha for him and his financial stage from the time he was born > must be substantially high.> > Regards,> Chandrashekhar.> > arkaydash wrote:> >> > Dear Chandrashekharji, members:> >> > We are told that yogas override the usual placement of planets in a > > chart. By usual, I mean this lord going to that house, and this planet > > being in such and such rasi.> >> > I came across a chart which displays quite a few rajayogas. We know > > that alongside the good yogas there would be some adverse yogas, some > > of them serious, undercutting the rajayogas. It makes sense to study > > yogas, both good and adverse, only in context -- that is, with actual > > charts. The chart I have for case study here is one that has > > rajayoga-causing planets involving the tenth house and dhanayoga > > involving the 11th house. There is a panchamahapurusha yoga as also > > gaja-kesari yoga. The chart escapes kemadruma yoga. Briefly, the 11th > > house has Jup and Ven while the 10th house has lord Mec along with 9th > > lord Sun and 5th lord Mars. > >> > What are the strengths of the yogas present in the chart? Do serious > > adverse yogas or other underlying factors undercut the surface > > promises? How do we track such factors when they are present and where > > not to apply them? This I think is very important in the final lap of > > reading a chart.> >> > Some baseline cancellation-factors advanced by some are like this: > > weak lagna and bhagyabhava, by extension lagna lord and bhagya lord > > are malefic-afflicted; planets causing rajayoga are ill-disposed in > > vargas, especially navamsa; the dasa of rajayoga-causing planet(s) > > runs in childhood or old age; luminaries, esp. Sun, are in run-down > > state; (even) veeparita rajayoga(s) being present alongside emphatic > > rajayoga (?). [The last condition, I think, must be approached/handled > > not in abstraction but empirically.]> >> > The native is half way through lagna lord dasa which is Jup, but going > > by the run of antardasas in lagna lord's mahadasa, the rajayoga > > effects -- the effects particularly of rajyesh in rajyasthana conjunct > > bhagyesh that is Sun -- are none too foreseeable. Arguably, the > > mahadasa of planets linked to the rajyasthana is not in operation till > > after 60, when Mec mahadasa kicks in; the mahadasa of Mars involved in > > 10^th house ran in childhood. Now, 10^th house not coming into play by > > way of mahadasa -- is that the overall decider in this case?> >> > The native is extroverted, sociable and has a large circle of > > contacts. A self-made person so far, he is a self-employed CA. He > > considers himself lucky as a husband.> >> > The chart is in the file section of the group under the name, > > _'kshitish chart'_.> >> > RK> >> > > >> >>

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Res Sir,

 

Yes, Your's book is the first ever book on astrology that i

purchased, I liked that very much, I have read the chapter where u

discussed Gaj-Kesari Yoga.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar

<sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

>

> Dear RKDa,

>

> Personally, I do not think yogas can overcome placement and bhava

> lordship of the grahas involved in any yoga. As a matter of fact I

have

> commented heavily on this aspect in my book. I have commented on

the

> effects of Gajkesari yoga, in different bhavas and rasis,

extensively

> therein.

>

> Having said that let us come to your propositions and queries. 9th

lord

> of the jataka being Sun the Lagna is obviously Dhanu. For Dhanu

lagna

> Ravi-Budha do cause a strong Raj yoga. Guru the lagna Lord with

Venus

> the 6th and 2nd Lord in 11th does indicate that he will earn by the

dint

> of his own efforts. Jupiter having a tendency to harm the house

occupied

> could mean he will not earn as much as he should or could. Mars,

besides

> the 5th lord is also the lord of the 12th and if he gets some work

from

> distant lands he could do very well. His son could as well join his

> business. The person is already a CA as you said so he must be

earning

> quite well and the Raj yogas have already apparently been operating

for

> him.

>

> I am sure he must be having some marital problems as Saturn in

debility

> aspects the 7th but aspect of Jupiter from 11th will tone down the

problems.

>

> He is running Jupiter Sun at present with Jupiter in Lagna and I

would

> think he could have acquired or about to acquire some property at

this

> point of time.

>

> His raj yogas would operate in Ketu, Mars and first half of Jupiter

> dashas/ antardashas etc when the benefics connect to the 11th or

the

> 10th or in trine/ square position to them or 7th from them. He is

born

> in around Abhijit muhurta and I would say his raj yogas are quite

> strong. He can have the capacity to become a leader of men, if he

is

> that way inclined. I would think there would have been some

deficiency

> in Pitru Sukha for him and his financial stage from the time he was

born

> must be substantially high.

>

> Regards,

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> arkaydash wrote:

> >

> > Dear Chandrashekharji, members:

> >

> > We are told that yogas override the usual placement of planets in

a

> > chart. By usual, I mean this lord going to that house, and this

planet

> > being in such and such rasi.

> >

> > I came across a chart which displays quite a few rajayogas. We

know

> > that alongside the good yogas there would be some adverse yogas,

some

> > of them serious, undercutting the rajayogas. It makes sense to

study

> > yogas, both good and adverse, only in context -- that is, with

actual

> > charts. The chart I have for case study here is one that has

> > rajayoga-causing planets involving the tenth house and dhanayoga

> > involving the 11th house. There is a panchamahapurusha yoga as

also

> > gaja-kesari yoga. The chart escapes kemadruma yoga. Briefly, the

11th

> > house has Jup and Ven while the 10th house has lord Mec along

with 9th

> > lord Sun and 5th lord Mars.

> >

> > What are the strengths of the yogas present in the chart? Do

serious

> > adverse yogas or other underlying factors undercut the surface

> > promises? How do we track such factors when they are present and

where

> > not to apply them? This I think is very important in the final

lap of

> > reading a chart.

> >

> > Some baseline cancellation-factors advanced by some are like

this:

> > weak lagna and bhagyabhava, by extension lagna lord and bhagya

lord

> > are malefic-afflicted; planets causing rajayoga are ill-disposed

in

> > vargas, especially navamsa; the dasa of rajayoga-causing planet

(s)

> > runs in childhood or old age; luminaries, esp. Sun, are in run-

down

> > state; (even) veeparita rajayoga(s) being present alongside

emphatic

> > rajayoga (?). [The last condition, I think, must be

approached/handled

> > not in abstraction but empirically.]

> >

> > The native is half way through lagna lord dasa which is Jup, but

going

> > by the run of antardasas in lagna lord's mahadasa, the rajayoga

> > effects -- the effects particularly of rajyesh in rajyasthana

conjunct

> > bhagyesh that is Sun -- are none too foreseeable. Arguably, the

> > mahadasa of planets linked to the rajyasthana is not in operation

till

> > after 60, when Mec mahadasa kicks in; the mahadasa of Mars

involved in

> > 10^th house ran in childhood. Now, 10^th house not coming into

play by

> > way of mahadasa -- is that the overall decider in this case?

> >

> > The native is extroverted, sociable and has a large circle of

> > contacts. A self-made person so far, he is a self-employed CA. He

> > considers himself lucky as a husband.

> >

> > The chart is in the file section of the group under the name,

> > _'kshitish chart'_.

> >

> > RK

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Sir,

Interesting in this topic is link to abhijit muhurat for fructification of yoga.You mean at about birth at abhijit muhurat/or abhijit nakshtra.Kindly provide light on this direction

vrkrishnan--- On Sat, 8/2/08, litsol <litsol wrote:

litsol <litsol[Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: yoga vicharVedic Astrologyandhealing Date: Saturday, August 2, 2008, 6:22 AM

 

 

Res Sir,Yes, Your's book is the first ever book on astrology that i purchased, I liked that very much, I have read the chapter where u discussed Gaj-Kesari Yoga.regards,Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashek har wrote:>> Dear RKDa,> > Personally, I do not think yogas can overcome placement and bhava > lordship of the grahas involved in any yoga. As a matter of fact I have > commented heavily on this aspect in my book. I have commented on the > effects of Gajkesari yoga, in different bhavas and rasis, extensively > therein.> > Having said that let us come to your propositions and queries. 9th lord > of the jataka being Sun the Lagna is obviously Dhanu. For Dhanu

lagna > Ravi-Budha do cause a strong Raj yoga. Guru the lagna Lord with Venus > the 6th and 2nd Lord in 11th does indicate that he will earn by the dint > of his own efforts. Jupiter having a tendency to harm the house occupied > could mean he will not earn as much as he should or could. Mars, besides > the 5th lord is also the lord of the 12th and if he gets some work from > distant lands he could do very well. His son could as well join his > business. The person is already a CA as you said so he must be earning > quite well and the Raj yogas have already apparently been operating for > him.> > I am sure he must be having some marital problems as Saturn in debility > aspects the 7th but aspect of Jupiter from 11th will tone down the problems.> > He is running Jupiter Sun at present with Jupiter in Lagna and I

would > think he could have acquired or about to acquire some property at this > point of time.> > His raj yogas would operate in Ketu, Mars and first half of Jupiter > dashas/ antardashas etc when the benefics connect to the 11th or the > 10th or in trine/ square position to them or 7th from them. He is born > in around Abhijit muhurta and I would say his raj yogas are quite > strong. He can have the capacity to become a leader of men, if he is > that way inclined. I would think there would have been some deficiency > in Pitru Sukha for him and his financial stage from the time he was born > must be substantially high.> > Regards,> Chandrashekhar.> > arkaydash wrote:> >> > Dear Chandrashekharji, members:> >> > We are told that yogas override the usual placement of planets in

a > > chart. By usual, I mean this lord going to that house, and this planet > > being in such and such rasi.> >> > I came across a chart which displays quite a few rajayogas. We know > > that alongside the good yogas there would be some adverse yogas, some > > of them serious, undercutting the rajayogas. It makes sense to study > > yogas, both good and adverse, only in context -- that is, with actual > > charts. The chart I have for case study here is one that has > > rajayoga-causing planets involving the tenth house and dhanayoga > > involving the 11th house. There is a panchamahapurusha yoga as also > > gaja-kesari yoga. The chart escapes kemadruma yoga. Briefly, the 11th > > house has Jup and Ven while the 10th house has lord Mec along with 9th > > lord Sun and 5th lord Mars. >

>> > What are the strengths of the yogas present in the chart? Do serious > > adverse yogas or other underlying factors undercut the surface > > promises? How do we track such factors when they are present and where > > not to apply them? This I think is very important in the final lap of > > reading a chart.> >> > Some baseline cancellation- factors advanced by some are like this: > > weak lagna and bhagyabhava, by extension lagna lord and bhagya lord > > are malefic-afflicted; planets causing rajayoga are ill-disposed in > > vargas, especially navamsa; the dasa of rajayoga-causing planet(s) > > runs in childhood or old age; luminaries, esp. Sun, are in run-down > > state; (even) veeparita rajayoga(s) being present alongside emphatic > > rajayoga (?). [The last condition, I think, must

be approached/handled > > not in abstraction but empirically. ]> >> > The native is half way through lagna lord dasa which is Jup, but going > > by the run of antardasas in lagna lord's mahadasa, the rajayoga > > effects -- the effects particularly of rajyesh in rajyasthana conjunct > > bhagyesh that is Sun -- are none too foreseeable. Arguably, the > > mahadasa of planets linked to the rajyasthana is not in operation till > > after 60, when Mec mahadasa kicks in; the mahadasa of Mars involved in > > 10^th house ran in childhood. Now, 10^th house not coming into play by > > way of mahadasa -- is that the overall decider in this case?> >> > The native is extroverted, sociable and has a large circle of > > contacts. A self-made person so far, he is a self-employed CA. He > > considers himself

lucky as a husband.> >> > The chart is in the file section of the group under the name, > > _'kshitish chart'_.> >> > RK> >> > > >> >>

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Dear RKda,

 

I can see what you mean.

 

What I have written is my personal experience as well understanding of

the texts. By the way, the Moola grathas do indicate that bhavas and

their lordships are important. For example, Kalyan Verma in Saravali

does say that not even a step can be taken in prediction unless one

takes into consideration the Bhava lordships etc. Almost all classics,

including BPHS, tell about the results of one bhava lord in other

bhavas, before they go on to talk about specific yogas.

 

You will also find it interesting to observe that some of the Nabhasa

yogas that are given in the texts can not occur at all as they are an

astronomical impossibility and Varaha Mihira does comment on this in

his Brihat Jataka. That again is why I do not think yogas override

other factors like placement bhava ownership etc. I am sure you must

also have observed the occurrence of classical Pravrajya yoga of 4 or

more planets in one house, in many charts where the Jataka is anything

but a renunciate if they occur in any bhava other than 1.7,8 or 12thy

and that too if the bhava lordship of the grahas supports that. I have

also had the good fortune to get the birth details of some enunciates

from themselves and though they do not have the classic Pravrajya

yogas, the bhava lord placement does indicate that they will renounce

this material world for spiritual pursuit.

 

Yes, I was talking about gochar shubha graha coming in trine or square

to them.

 

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

 

 

 

arkaydash wrote:

 

 

Dear Chandrashekharji,

Thanks. I think a final appraisal of a chart must rely on yogas

where there are big-ticket yogas, either way -- on the principle here

too of more-than-the-sum-of-parts. What I meant was not the

blurring of bhava lordship of grahas involved in yogas, as that is

almost always a component of a yoga. What is my considered (and largely

received) opinion is that lords not involved in yogas going

to this or that house falls by the wayside while yogas ride

through. Thus, they (yogas) override.

While I tend to accept the approach to allocating variable results

for a rajayoga like this (be it Gajakesari or Panchamahapurusha or

Adhiyoga or Amala Yoga) where lordship is not at issue, may I point out

that such bhava- and rasi-based distinctions are not covered in any of

the moola-granthas. Probably you have tested this approach well enough.

 

Venus in the example chart is 11th & 6th lord. You say

"...when the benefics connect to the 11th or the

10th or in trine/ square position to them or 7th from them..." Benefics

in gochara?

Thanking you again,

RK

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing ,

Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

>

> Dear RKDa,

>

> Personally, I do not think yogas can overcome placement and bhava

> lordship of the grahas involved in any yoga. As a matter of fact I

have

> commented heavily on this aspect in my book. I have commented on

the

> effects of Gajkesari yoga, in different bhavas and rasis,

extensively

> therein.

>

> Having said that let us come to your propositions and queries. 9th

lord

> of the jataka being Sun the Lagna is obviously Dhanu. For Dhanu

lagna

> Ravi-Budha do cause a strong Raj yoga. Guru the lagna Lord with

Venus

> the 6th and 2nd Lord in 11th does indicate that he will earn by

the dint

> of his own efforts. Jupiter having a tendency to harm the house

occupied

> could mean he will not earn as much as he should or could. Mars,

besides

> the 5th lord is also the lord of the 12th and if he gets some work

from

> distant lands he could do very well. His son could as well join

his

> business. The person is already a CA as you said so he must be

earning

> quite well and the Raj yogas have already apparently been

operating for

> him.

>

> I am sure he must be having some marital problems as Saturn in

debility

> aspects the 7th but aspect of Jupiter from 11th will tone down the

problems.

>

> He is running Jupiter Sun at present with Jupiter in Lagna and I

would

> think he could have acquired or about to acquire some property at

this

> point of time.

>

> His raj yogas would operate in Ketu, Mars and first half of

Jupiter

> dashas/ antardashas etc when the benefics connect to the 11th or

the

> 10th or in trine/ square position to them or 7th from them. He is

born

> in around Abhijit muhurta and I would say his raj yogas are quite

> strong. He can have the capacity to become a leader of men, if he

is

> that way inclined. I would think there would have been some

deficiency

> in Pitru Sukha for him and his financial stage from the time he

was born

> must be substantially high.

>

> Regards,

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> arkaydash wrote:

> >

> > Dear Chandrashekharji, members:

> >

> > We are told that yogas override the usual placement of

planets in a

> > chart. By usual, I mean this lord going to that house, and

this planet

> > being in such and such rasi.

> >

> > I came across a chart which displays quite a few rajayogas.

We know

> > that alongside the good yogas there would be some adverse

yogas, some

> > of them serious, undercutting the rajayogas. It makes sense

to study

> > yogas, both good and adverse, only in context -- that is,

with actual

> > charts. The chart I have for case study here is one that has

> > rajayoga-causing planets involving the tenth house and

dhanayoga

> > involving the 11th house. There is a panchamahapurusha yoga

as also

> > gaja-kesari yoga. The chart escapes kemadruma yoga. Briefly,

the 11th

> > house has Jup and Ven while the 10th house has lord Mec along

with 9th

> > lord Sun and 5th lord Mars.

> >

> > What are the strengths of the yogas present in the chart? Do

serious

> > adverse yogas or other underlying factors undercut the

surface

> > promises? How do we track such factors when they are present

and where

> > not to apply them? This I think is very important in the

final lap of

> > reading a chart.

> >

> > Some baseline cancellation-factors advanced by some are

like this:

> > weak lagna and bhagyabhava, by extension lagna lord and

bhagya lord

> > are malefic-afflicted; planets causing rajayoga are

ill-disposed in

> > vargas, especially navamsa; the dasa of rajayoga-causing

planet(s)

> > runs in childhood or old age; luminaries, esp. Sun, are in

run-down

> > state; (even) veeparita rajayoga(s) being present alongside

emphatic

> > rajayoga (?). [The last condition, I think, must be

approached/handled

> > not in abstraction but empirically.]

> >

> > The native is half way through lagna lord dasa which is Jup,

but going

> > by the run of antardasas in lagna lord's mahadasa, the

rajayoga

> > effects -- the effects particularly of rajyesh in rajyasthana

conjunct

> > bhagyesh that is Sun -- are none too foreseeable. Arguably,

the

> > mahadasa of planets linked to the rajyasthana is not in

operation till

> > after 60, when Mec mahadasa kicks in; the mahadasa of Mars

involved in

> > 10^th house ran in childhood. Now, 10^th house not coming

into play by

> > way of mahadasa -- is that the overall decider in this case?

> >

> > The native is extroverted, sociable and has a large circle of

 

> > contacts. A self-made person so far, he is a self-employed

CA. He

> > considers himself lucky as a husband.

> >

> > The chart is in the file section of the group under the name,

 

> > _'kshitish chart'_.

> >

> > RK

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Dear Lalit,

 

I am sure you found that what is said of Gajkesari yoga, therein, does

fit real life charts.

 

take care,

Chandrashekhar.

 

litsol wrote:

 

 

Res Sir,

 

Yes, Your's book is the first ever book on astrology that i

purchased, I liked that very much, I have read the chapter where u

discussed Gaj-Kesari Yoga.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing ,

Chandrashekhar

<sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

>

> Dear RKDa,

>

> Personally, I do not think yogas can overcome placement and bhava

> lordship of the grahas involved in any yoga. As a matter of fact I

 

have

> commented heavily on this aspect in my book. I have commented on

the

> effects of Gajkesari yoga, in different bhavas and rasis,

extensively

> therein.

>

> Having said that let us come to your propositions and queries. 9th

 

lord

> of the jataka being Sun the Lagna is obviously Dhanu. For Dhanu

lagna

> Ravi-Budha do cause a strong Raj yoga. Guru the lagna Lord with

Venus

> the 6th and 2nd Lord in 11th does indicate that he will earn by

the

dint

> of his own efforts. Jupiter having a tendency to harm the house

occupied

> could mean he will not earn as much as he should or could. Mars,

besides

> the 5th lord is also the lord of the 12th and if he gets some work

 

from

> distant lands he could do very well. His son could as well join

his

> business. The person is already a CA as you said so he must be

earning

> quite well and the Raj yogas have already apparently been

operating

for

> him.

>

> I am sure he must be having some marital problems as Saturn in

debility

> aspects the 7th but aspect of Jupiter from 11th will tone down the

 

problems.

>

> He is running Jupiter Sun at present with Jupiter in Lagna and I

would

> think he could have acquired or about to acquire some property at

this

> point of time.

>

> His raj yogas would operate in Ketu, Mars and first half of

Jupiter

> dashas/ antardashas etc when the benefics connect to the 11th or

the

> 10th or in trine/ square position to them or 7th from them. He is

born

> in around Abhijit muhurta and I would say his raj yogas are quite

> strong. He can have the capacity to become a leader of men, if he

is

> that way inclined. I would think there would have been some

deficiency

> in Pitru Sukha for him and his financial stage from the time he

was

born

> must be substantially high.

>

> Regards,

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> arkaydash wrote:

> >

> > Dear Chandrashekharji, members:

> >

> > We are told that yogas override the usual placement of

planets in

a

> > chart. By usual, I mean this lord going to that house, and

this

planet

> > being in such and such rasi.

> >

> > I came across a chart which displays quite a few rajayogas.

We

know

> > that alongside the good yogas there would be some adverse

yogas,

some

> > of them serious, undercutting the rajayogas. It makes sense

to

study

> > yogas, both good and adverse, only in context -- that is,

with

actual

> > charts. The chart I have for case study here is one that has

> > rajayoga-causing planets involving the tenth house and

dhanayoga

> > involving the 11th house. There is a panchamahapurusha yoga

as

also

> > gaja-kesari yoga. The chart escapes kemadruma yoga. Briefly,

the

11th

> > house has Jup and Ven while the 10th house has lord Mec along

 

with 9th

> > lord Sun and 5th lord Mars.

> >

> > What are the strengths of the yogas present in the chart? Do

serious

> > adverse yogas or other underlying factors undercut the

surface

> > promises? How do we track such factors when they are present

and

where

> > not to apply them? This I think is very important in the

final

lap of

> > reading a chart.

> >

> > Some baseline cancellation-factors advanced by some are

like

this:

> > weak lagna and bhagyabhava, by extension lagna lord and

bhagya

lord

> > are malefic-afflicted; planets causing rajayoga are

ill-disposed

in

> > vargas, especially navamsa; the dasa of rajayoga-causing

planet

(s)

> > runs in childhood or old age; luminaries, esp. Sun, are in

run-

down

> > state; (even) veeparita rajayoga(s) being present alongside

emphatic

> > rajayoga (?). [The last condition, I think, must be

approached/handled

> > not in abstraction but empirically.]

> >

> > The native is half way through lagna lord dasa which is Jup,

but

going

> > by the run of antardasas in lagna lord's mahadasa, the

rajayoga

> > effects -- the effects particularly of rajyesh in rajyasthana

 

conjunct

> > bhagyesh that is Sun -- are none too foreseeable. Arguably,

the

> > mahadasa of planets linked to the rajyasthana is not in

operation

till

> > after 60, when Mec mahadasa kicks in; the mahadasa of Mars

involved in

> > 10^th house ran in childhood. Now, 10^th house not coming

into

play by

> > way of mahadasa -- is that the overall decider in this case?

> >

> > The native is extroverted, sociable and has a large circle of

 

> > contacts. A self-made person so far, he is a self-employed

CA. He

> > considers himself lucky as a husband.

> >

> > The chart is in the file section of the group under the name,

 

> > _'kshitish chart'_.

> >

> > RK

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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