Astrology 101--basics of a chart -- PURPOSE

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JLearner aka Neelay,

Some observations in your 'Astrology 101 etc' mail and its sequel occasioned my mail. I quoted the suspect line from the first mail. Here is another from the next: "I feel comfortable posting my understanding with a id with no name attached." In the past some mischievous astrology buffs acted out of ulterior motives and tried probably to serve some personal agenda. They later took it (mischief) to his (Lalit's) organisation, up to the chairman of the company. Their rep did his damnedest to get Lalit sacked. Hair-raising in a bloodless sort of way. If you want to belong here, you will. If you want to remain faceless, I don't think you can belong.

We here have nothing narrow to serve, and nothing grandiose to reach for. It's just a forum, a meeting point. Now and then we, being unafraid, don't mind taking a potshot (nonpersonal) at pretentious people. But that, we try never to overdo. Beyond a point what others do with astrology is outside the purview of the group. Give and take in a spirit of goodwill and respect, and, yes, gratitude where it is due.

Yes, your predictive primer is good enough.

RK

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Jyotish Learner <jyotishlearner wrote:>> Dear Sir,> I didnt quite understand what you are trying to convey through your email. If you feel that the purpose of my writing is to get personal readings or some other personal agenda then you have got it wrong. > I am genuinely interested in learning the knowledge but to keep myself motivated at times is hard. Hence, I decided to summarize what i read and post it on a group( which i thought would be a good incentive for me to keep me motivated). About taking suggestions only from beginners on topic of discussion, well i can take from anyone.With beginners I assume the topic would be relatively basic and easy for me to read, summarize and write about. > Seniors like you and others can guide us in better understanding of the subject, as it does get confusing and tricky as one progresses in this path.> Regards,> JLearner> > > > > arkaydash arkaydash Vedic Astrologyandhealing > Saturday, August 2, 2008 9:09:18 AM> [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: Astrology 101--basics of a chart> > > > Dear learner-member,> > We are inclined to appreciate your gesture but can't as long as you> don't clarify what you mean by this: "I will take suggestions from> beginners if they would be interested in hearing about a topic that is> of interest to them." Why is it that you will take from beginners? To> give back to non-beginners? You risk being grossly misunderstood,> friend. If you have queries, post them. Members here will try to answer> them to the best of their ability, which in many cases may be limited,> as different from unlimited.> > Stop the dissimulation. There are 100 chances of course correction> before Sudarshan is hurled.> > RK> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Jyotish Learner> <jyotishlearner@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Members,> >> > I am a jyotish student. To enhance my understanding and knowledge of> jyotishi, i will try to summarize my understanding of basic topics as i> read them along. Learned members please feel free to correct and guide> me. My knowledge is very basic, so i will start of with topics, which to> an advanced reader may be very basic. But i would request them to> atleast give a casual perusal to correct my understanding. I will take> suggestions from beginners if they would be interested in hearing about> a topic that is of interest to them. I can read it up and post a> summary. Please do excuse my grammar and writing skills. Lastly, for the> beginners please do read with caution, as i am learner myself, hence my> understanding may be flawed at times.> >> >> > Basics of a chart.> >> > There are 12 rashis, and 9 planets. Lets first see how a horoscope> looks like. The twelve rashis are:> >> > Raasi's Raasi Lord> > 1. Aries (Mesha) Mars> > 2. Taurus (Vrishab) Venus> > 3. Gemini (Mithuna) Mercury> > 4. Cancer (Karkata) Moon> > 5. Leo (Singha) Sun> > 6. Virgo (kanya) Mercury> > 7. Libra (tula) Venus> > 8. Scorpio (vrischika) Mars> > 9. Sagitarius (Dhanu) Jupiter> > 10. Capricorn (makara) Saturn> > 11. Aquarius (kumbha) Saturn> > 12. Pisces (meena) Jupiter> > Besides the seven grahas two other grahas rahu and ketu> are not physical objects, but points at which the moons orbit interscts> the plane of the earth's orbit around Su.> > The heavens are divided into 12 raasi's. Starting with Mesha> from 0-30 degree, Vrishaba 30-60 degree, so on upto Meena. When a person> is born the raasi at the horizon forms the ascendant of the chart, and> all the other planets in the raahis at that particular time create the> chart what we call as raashi chart.> >> > the north indian style raashi chart looks something like this. This> chart is at the time I am writing this email. The top middle box which> says "As" becomes the ascendant of the chart. When we move counter> clockwise from there, the next rashi (second house) is makara(capricorn)> which has Rahu in it, The third house is kumbha with no grahas in it so> on and the twelfth house is vrischika (Scorpio) empty house.> > Rasi> > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- +> > | \ / \ / |> > | \ Ra / \ 8 / |> > | \ 10 / \ / |> > | \ / JuR \ / |> > | \ / \ / |> > | 11 x As x 7 |> > | / \ / \ |> > | / \ GL / \ |> > | / \ / \ |> > | / \ 9 / \ |> > | / \ / 6 \ |> > | 12 x AL |> > | \ / \ / |> > | \ / \ / |> > | \ / \ / |> > | \ / 3 \ / Gk |> > | \ / \ / Sa |> > | 1 x HL x Ve Ma |> > | / \ / \ Md |> > | / \ / \ |> > | / \ / Ke 4 \ 5 |> > | / 2 \ / Su \ |> > | / \ / Mo Me \ |> > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- +> >> >> >> > As you will notice the jupiter in lagna has a R next to it, which> means that its currently in retrograde motion. Sun and Moon the> luminaries do not have a retrogade motion.> > All the other planets have retrogade motion, to an observant the> planet would seem to be moving in reverse direction. To make the analogy> simpler, if two cars are moving in the same direction and one car is> moving slowly.than the other, once the fast car overtakes the slow car,> it would seem as if the slow car is moving backward in relation to> faster car. Same is the case with planets. Earth moves faster then Ju> and currently has overtaken Ju thats why currently we see its retrograde> (vaakri )movement.> > However, in astrology this has significant meaning, a retrograde> planet is said to have stronger chestabala, which i will delve into> another time.> > Coming back to the sample chart that was erected we see Dhanu lagna.> At that time constellation dhanu was at horizon. Due to the earths> rotation the constellation we see at horizon would constantly change> during the 24 hr period. Hence ascendant takes one whole day to go> around the chart and come back to the same position. For Mo is 29 days,> Sun 365 days, Ma about 1..5, Me 1 yr , Ve 1 yr, Ju 12 yr, Sat 30 yr and> Ra and Ke 18 yr.> > A little bit about the planets> > Sun :- represents the atma, self, soul, power, father, king. It lords> the rasi Leo.> > Ju - is the teacher of Gods. represent intelligence, judgement,> knowledge, teachers, gurus. It lords Dhanu and Meena.> > Ve - is the teacher of demons-rules enjoyments represnts enjoyment,> lover, wife. It rules vrishaba, tula> > Ma- represents the initiative drive and aggression, courage, energy.> It rules, mesha and vrischika.> > Mo-signifies mind, mother It rules Karkata> > Me-governs learning ability, signifies maternal uncles, traders. It> rules kanya, and mithuna> > Sa -signifes misery, poverty, longevity It rules makar and kumbha> > Ra- signifes foreigners, bhoga> > Ke signifes mokshsa> > Will post about the different houses and few other things in next post> > Regards> > JLearner> >>