Guest guest Posted August 4, 2008 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 Hello Members, Please find the horoscopes of Lord Ram and Pt. Raavan. Horoscope of Ravana --- Ascendant--- Aries 1st house- Sun 2nd- Mercury 4th- Jupiter, Moon 5th- Ketu 7th- Saturn 10th- Mars 11th- Rahu 12th- Venus Horoscope Of Shri Ram--- Ascendant--- Cancer 1st house- Moon, Jupiter 4th- Saturn 5th- Rahu 7th- Mars 9th- Venus 10th- Sun 11th- Mercury, Ketu Thanks and Regards, saurabh ************************************************************* " Kuchh Sapanon Ke Mar Jaane Se, Jeevan Nahin Maraa Karataa Hai " Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2008 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 RK Daa and Aavesh Sir, Pls. tell us what in ravan's horoscope made him a ravan, lagna's combo makes him great egoist but what made him a rakschhasa, 4'th saturn will make him cynical,ungrateful, 7'th mars will fill fanatism in him by exchange of aspetcs with Jup and Moon, this also makes him horrible. I have found in most dictator's horoscope, Lagna has Jup few arrogant type of people may have moon also therein. But not able to understand where to see the massive killing and crime against women that he did. What turned him negatively ? regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , saurabh chaturvedi <chaturvedisaurabh2002 wrote: > > Hello Members, > > Please find the horoscopes of Lord Ram and Pt. Raavan. > > > Horoscope of Ravana --- > > Ascendant--- Aries > 1st house- Sun > 2nd- Mercury > 4th- Jupiter, Moon > 5th- Ketu > 7th- Saturn > 10th- Mars > 11th- Rahu > 12th- Venus > > > Horoscope Of Shri Ram--- > > Ascendant--- Cancer > 1st house- Moon, Jupiter > 4th- Saturn > 5th- Rahu > 7th- Mars > 9th- Venus > 10th- Sun > 11th- Mercury, Ketu > > > Thanks and Regards, > saurabh > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > " Kuchh Sapanon Ke Mar Jaane Se, Jeevan Nahin Maraa Karataa Hai " > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2008 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 Sorry, I did a funny mistake, looked Lord Ram's horoscope considering that's Ravana's horocope and got confused. Didn't notice 4'th saturn is exalted, Sorry, Extremely Sorry ! A Deva and A Rakschha both will have compatible horoscope in terms of fear and dictatorshop but one will use that for positive purpose while other one will use that for negative purpose. regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > RK Daa and Aavesh Sir, > > Pls. tell us what in ravan's horoscope made him a ravan, lagna's > combo makes him great egoist but what made him a rakschhasa, 4'th > saturn will make him cynical,ungrateful, 7'th mars will fill fanatism > in him by exchange of aspetcs with Jup and Moon, this also makes him > horrible. > > I have found in most dictator's horoscope, Lagna has Jup few arrogant > type of people may have moon also therein. > > But not able to understand where to see the massive killing and > crime against women that he did. What turned him negatively ? > > > regards, > Lalit. > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , saurabh chaturvedi > <chaturvedisaurabh2002@> wrote: > > > > Hello Members, > > > > Please find the horoscopes of Lord Ram and Pt. Raavan. > > > > > > Horoscope of Ravana --- > > > > Ascendant--- Aries > > 1st house- Sun > > 2nd- Mercury > > 4th- Jupiter, Moon > > 5th- Ketu > > 7th- Saturn > > 10th- Mars > > 11th- Rahu > > 12th- Venus > > > > > > Horoscope Of Shri Ram--- > > > > Ascendant--- Cancer > > 1st house- Moon, Jupiter > > 4th- Saturn > > 5th- Rahu > > 7th- Mars > > 9th- Venus > > 10th- Sun > > 11th- Mercury, Ketu > > > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > saurabh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > > > " Kuchh Sapanon Ke Mar Jaane Se, Jeevan Nahin Maraa Karataa > Hai " > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on > http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Sir, Astrologically horoscopes of the mighty Ravana,though known to be on the opposite side of God's is known to be a great devotee of lord Shiva and is having a "karanjanma"(to fight with Shri Ram Ji) Also Lord Rama has to fulfil the wish liberate Sita ji from the clutches of rakshshas by crossing the setu. Death of Dasradha and proceeding to Aranya vasam are all haapenings that Lord has faced in his Rama Avatars.Such horoscopes and the stellar positions behind planets hardly indicate differences between Lord Ram(Vishnu avataar) and Ravan Ji(great devotee of Lord Shiv ji)Their 5th house and 9th and 10th houses if explored may fairly bring out the importance of various planets vrkrishnan--- On Mon, 8/4/08, litsol <litsol wrote: litsol <litsol[Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: Horoscopes of Shri Ram and Raavan...Vedic Astrologyandhealing Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 10:44 AM Sorry,I did a funny mistake, looked Lord Ram's horoscope considering that's Ravana's horocope and got confused. Didn't notice 4'th saturn is exalted, Sorry, Extremely Sorry !A Deva and A Rakschha both will have compatible horoscope in terms of fear and dictatorshop but one will use that for positive purpose while other one will use that for negative purpose.regards,Lalit.Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" <litsol wrote:>> RK Daa and Aavesh Sir,> > Pls. tell us what in ravan's horoscope made him a ravan, lagna's > combo makes him great egoist but what made him a rakschhasa, 4'th > saturn will make him cynical,ungrateful, 7'th mars will fill fanatism > in him by exchange of aspetcs with Jup and Moon, this also makes him > horrible.> > I have found in most dictator's horoscope, Lagna has Jup few arrogant > type of people may have moon also therein.> > But not able to understand where to see the massive killing and > crime against women that he did. What turned him negatively ?> > > regards,> Lalit.> > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, saurabh chaturvedi > <chaturvedisaurabh2 002@> wrote:> >> > Hello Members,> > > > Please find the horoscopes of Lord Ram and Pt. Raavan.> > > > > > Horoscope of Ravana ---> > > > Ascendant--- Aries> > 1st house- Sun> > 2nd- Mercury> > 4th- Jupiter, Moon> > 5th- Ketu> > 7th- Saturn> > 10th- Mars> > 11th- Rahu> > 12th- Venus> > > > > > Horoscope Of Shri Ram---> > > > Ascendant--- Cancer> > 1st house- Moon, Jupiter> > 4th- Saturn> > 5th- Rahu> > 7th- Mars> > 9th- Venus> > 10th- Sun> > 11th- Mercury, Ketu> > > > > > Thanks and Regards,> > saurabh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ****> > > > "Kuchh Sapanon Ke Mar Jaane Se, Jeevan Nahin Maraa Karataa > Hai" > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on > http://help. / l/in// mail/mail/ tools/tools- 08.html/> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Sir Krishnan Ji, Four differences are discovered as followes - 1. In Ravana's horoscope, Sun and Saturn are opposite to each other, involving Lagna and 7'th, thus humilation and defeat is mendatory, it also bestows him marital displeasure. Saturn and Mars both aspcting lagna will always make one a Rakschhasa, This was a case with Aurangjeb too. 7'th placed saturn has afflcted his inner mind by aspecting 4'th house, remaining thing is done by 10'th placed Mars. 2. 12'th placed exalted exalted venus makes him slave of his comfort zone, his lust for beautiful woman is understood it also explains why he had golden lanka, He was a rapist. 3. 5'th placed Ketu makes him a mantra sadhaka and a good jyotishi, Mars aspecting Ketu puts him in negative side of sadhana, he turned to abhichara and bad tantra. 4. 4'th placed Moon is not supposed to be good in terms of stability, it also says one does not have a good mother. Ravana was never stable at one place, he had no home also. But as Guru is conjunct Moon, he had great grasping power, that's why he could learn lots of shastras. In Ravana's horo, placement of planets is entirely different than that of Prabhu Ram's horoscope, may be potential of horoscope is largely in equality but inner darkness has ruined his calibre and qualities regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Sir, > Astrologically horoscopes of the mighty Ravana,though known to be on the opposite side of God's is known to be a great devotee of lord Shiva and is having a " karanjanma " (to fight with Shri Ram Ji) > Also Lord Rama has to fulfil the wish liberate Sita ji from the clutches of rakshshas by crossing the setu. > Death of Dasradha and proceeding to Aranya vasam are all haapenings that Lord has faced in his Rama Avatars.Such horoscopes and the stellar positions behind planets hardly indicate differences between Lord Ram(Vishnu avataar) and Ravan Ji(great devotee of Lord Shiv ji)Their 5th house and 9th and 10th houses if explored may fairly bring out the importance of various planets > vrkrishnan > > --- On Mon, 8/4/08, litsol litsol wrote: > > litsol litsol > [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: Horoscopes of Shri Ram and Raavan... > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > Monday, August 4, 2008, 10:44 AM Sorry, > > I did a funny mistake, looked Lord Ram's horoscope considering that's > Ravana's horocope and got confused. Didn't notice 4'th saturn is > exalted, Sorry, Extremely Sorry ! > > A Deva and A Rakschha both will have compatible horoscope in terms of > fear and dictatorshop but one will use that for positive purpose > while other one will use that for negative purpose. > > regards, > Lalit. > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " litsol " > litsol@ wrote: > > > > RK Daa and Aavesh Sir, > > > > Pls. tell us what in ravan's horoscope made him a ravan, lagna's > > combo makes him great egoist but what made him a rakschhasa, 4'th > > saturn will make him cynical,ungrateful, 7'th mars will fill > fanatism > > in him by exchange of aspetcs with Jup and Moon, this also makes > him > > horrible. > > > > I have found in most dictator's horoscope, Lagna has Jup few > arrogant > > type of people may have moon also therein. > > > > But not able to understand where to see the massive killing and > > crime against women that he did. What turned him negatively ? > > > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, saurabh chaturvedi > > <chaturvedisaurabh2 002@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello Members, > > > > > > Please find the horoscopes of Lord Ram and Pt. Raavan. > > > > > > > > > Horoscope of Ravana --- > > > > > > Ascendant--- Aries > > > 1st house- Sun > > > 2nd- Mercury > > > 4th- Jupiter, Moon > > > 5th- Ketu > > > 7th- Saturn > > > 10th- Mars > > > 11th- Rahu > > > 12th- Venus > > > > > > > > > Horoscope Of Shri Ram--- > > > > > > Ascendant--- Cancer > > > 1st house- Moon, Jupiter > > > 4th- Saturn > > > 5th- Rahu > > > 7th- Mars > > > 9th- Venus > > > 10th- Sun > > > 11th- Mercury, Ketu > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > saurabh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* **** > > > > > > " Kuchh Sapanon Ke Mar Jaane Se, Jeevan Nahin Maraa Karataa > > Hai " > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on > > http://help. / l/in// mail/mail/ tools/tools- 08.html/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Dear Krishnan, A famous shloka, oft quoted by H N Katwe that gives how Guru occupying each of the bhava gives ill results says that Jupiter in the 8th sent Ravana to his death. So, is the chart of Ravana given here right? Chandrashekhar. vattem krishnan wrote: Sir, Astrologically horoscopes of the mighty Ravana,though known to be on the opposite side of God's is known to be a great devotee of lord Shiva and is having a "karanjanma"(to fight with Shri Ram Ji) Also Lord Rama has to fulfil the wish liberate Sita ji from the clutches of rakshshas by crossing the setu. Death of Dasradha and proceeding to Aranya vasam are all haapenings that Lord has faced in his Rama Avatars.Such horoscopes and the stellar positions behind planets hardly indicate differences between Lord Ram(Vishnu avataar) and Ravan Ji(great devotee of Lord Shiv ji)Their 5th house and 9th and 10th houses if explored may fairly bring out the importance of various planets vrkrishnan --- On Mon, 8/4/08, litsol <litsol > wrote: litsol <litsol > [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: Horoscopes of Shri Ram and Raavan... Vedic Astrologyandhealing Monday, August 4, 2008, 10:44 AM Sorry, I did a funny mistake, looked Lord Ram's horoscope considering that's Ravana's horocope and got confused. Didn't notice 4'th saturn is exalted, Sorry, Extremely Sorry ! A Deva and A Rakschha both will have compatible horoscope in terms of fear and dictatorshop but one will use that for positive purpose while other one will use that for negative purpose. regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" <litsol wrote: > > RK Daa and Aavesh Sir, > > Pls. tell us what in ravan's horoscope made him a ravan, lagna's > combo makes him great egoist but what made him a rakschhasa, 4'th > saturn will make him cynical,ungrateful, 7'th mars will fill fanatism > in him by exchange of aspetcs with Jup and Moon, this also makes him > horrible. > > I have found in most dictator's horoscope, Lagna has Jup few arrogant > type of people may have moon also therein. > > But not able to understand where to see the massive killing and > crime against women that he did. What turned him negatively ? > > > regards, > Lalit. > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, saurabh chaturvedi > <chaturvedisaurabh2 002@> wrote: > > > > Hello Members, > > > > Please find the horoscopes of Lord Ram and Pt. Raavan. > > > > > > Horoscope of Ravana --- > > > > Ascendant--- Aries > > 1st house- Sun > > 2nd- Mercury > > 4th- Jupiter, Moon > > 5th- Ketu > > 7th- Saturn > > 10th- Mars > > 11th- Rahu > > 12th- Venus > > > > > > Horoscope Of Shri Ram--- > > > > Ascendant--- Cancer > > 1st house- Moon, Jupiter > > 4th- Saturn > > 5th- Rahu > > 7th- Mars > > 9th- Venus > > 10th- Sun > > 11th- Mercury, Ketu > > > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > saurabh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* **** > > > > "Kuchh Sapanon Ke Mar Jaane Se, Jeevan Nahin Maraa Karataa > Hai" > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on > http://help. / l/in// mail/mail/ tools/tools- 08.html/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Dear Shri Chandrasekhar ji, Death as a result of Guru placed in 8th took place in a fierce war and finally could attain moksha(?) through the arrows of Lord Shri Ramchandra. Iam enlightened for the clarification and the chart of Ravana ,the king demons has to be taken right earnestly. regards vrkrishnan--- On Tue, 8/5/08, Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekharRe: [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: Horoscopes of Shri Ram and Raavan...Vedic Astrologyandhealing Date: Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 1:22 PM Dear Krishnan,A famous shloka, oft quoted by H N Katwe that gives how Guru occupying each of the bhava gives ill results says that Jupiter in the 8th sent Ravana to his death. So, is the chart of Ravana given here right?Chandrashekhar.vattem krishnan wrote: Sir, Astrologically horoscopes of the mighty Ravana,though known to be on the opposite side of God's is known to be a great devotee of lord Shiva and is having a "karanjanma" (to fight with Shri Ram Ji) Also Lord Rama has to fulfil the wish liberate Sita ji from the clutches of rakshshas by crossing the setu. Death of Dasradha and proceeding to Aranya vasam are all haapenings that Lord has faced in his Rama Avatars.Such horoscopes and the stellar positions behind planets hardly indicate differences between Lord Ram(Vishnu avataar) and Ravan Ji(great devotee of Lord Shiv ji)Their 5th house and 9th and 10th houses if explored may fairly bring out the importance of various planets vrkrishnan--- On Mon, 8/4/08, litsol <litsol > wrote: litsol <litsol >[Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Re: Horoscopes of Shri Ram and Raavan...Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.comMonday, August 4, 2008, 10:44 AM Sorry,I did a funny mistake, looked Lord Ram's horoscope considering that's Ravana's horocope and got confused. Didn't notice 4'th saturn is exalted, Sorry, Extremely Sorry !A Deva and A Rakschha both will have compatible horoscope in terms of fear and dictatorshop but one will use that for positive purpose while other one will use that for negative purpose.regards,Lalit.Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" <litsol wrote:>> RK Daa and Aavesh Sir,> > Pls. tell us what in ravan's horoscope made him a ravan, lagna's > combo makes him great egoist but what made him a rakschhasa, 4'th > saturn will make him cynical,ungrateful, 7'th mars will fill fanatism > in him by exchange of aspetcs with Jup and Moon, this also makes him > horrible.> > I have found in most dictator's horoscope, Lagna has Jup few arrogant > type of people may have moon also therein.> > But not able to understand where to see the massive killing and > crime against women that he did. What turned him negatively ?> > > regards,> Lalit.> > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, saurabh chaturvedi > <chaturvedisaurabh2 002@> wrote:> >> > Hello Members,> > > > Please find the horoscopes of Lord Ram and Pt. Raavan.> > > > > > Horoscope of Ravana ---> > > > Ascendant--- Aries> > 1st house- Sun> > 2nd- Mercury> > 4th- Jupiter, Moon> > 5th- Ketu> > 7th- Saturn> > 10th- Mars> > 11th- Rahu> > 12th- Venus> > > > > > Horoscope Of Shri Ram---> > > > Ascendant--- Cancer> > 1st house- Moon, Jupiter> > 4th- Saturn> > 5th- Rahu> > 7th- Mars> > 9th- Venus> > 10th- Sun> > 11th- Mercury, Ketu> > > > > > Thanks and Regards,> > saurabh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ****> > > > "Kuchh Sapanon Ke Mar Jaane Se, Jeevan Nahin Maraa Karataa > Hai" > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on > http://help. / l/in// mail/mail/ tools/tools- 08.html/> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Dear Shri Chandrasekhar ji, Death as a result of Guru placed in 8th took place in a fierce war and finally could attain moksha(?) through the arrows of Lord Shri Ramchandra. Iam enlightened for the clarification and the chart of Ravana ,the king demons has to be taken right earnestly. regards vrkrishnan--- On Tue, 8/5/08, Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekharRe: [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: Horoscopes of Shri Ram and Raavan...Vedic Astrologyandhealing Date: Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 1:22 PM Dear Krishnan,A famous shloka, oft quoted by H N Katwe that gives how Guru occupying each of the bhava gives ill results says that Jupiter in the 8th sent Ravana to his death. So, is the chart of Ravana given here right?Chandrashekhar.vattem krishnan wrote: Sir, Astrologically horoscopes of the mighty Ravana,though known to be on the opposite side of God's is known to be a great devotee of lord Shiva and is having a "karanjanma" (to fight with Shri Ram Ji) Also Lord Rama has to fulfil the wish liberate Sita ji from the clutches of rakshshas by crossing the setu. Death of Dasradha and proceeding to Aranya vasam are all haapenings that Lord has faced in his Rama Avatars.Such horoscopes and the stellar positions behind planets hardly indicate differences between Lord Ram(Vishnu avataar) and Ravan Ji(great devotee of Lord Shiv ji)Their 5th house and 9th and 10th houses if explored may fairly bring out the importance of various planets vrkrishnan--- On Mon, 8/4/08, litsol <litsol > wrote: litsol <litsol >[Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Re: Horoscopes of Shri Ram and Raavan...Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.comMonday, August 4, 2008, 10:44 AM Sorry,I did a funny mistake, looked Lord Ram's horoscope considering that's Ravana's horocope and got confused. Didn't notice 4'th saturn is exalted, Sorry, Extremely Sorry !A Deva and A Rakschha both will have compatible horoscope in terms of fear and dictatorshop but one will use that for positive purpose while other one will use that for negative purpose.regards,Lalit.Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" <litsol wrote:>> RK Daa and Aavesh Sir,> > Pls. tell us what in ravan's horoscope made him a ravan, lagna's > combo makes him great egoist but what made him a rakschhasa, 4'th > saturn will make him cynical,ungrateful, 7'th mars will fill fanatism > in him by exchange of aspetcs with Jup and Moon, this also makes him > horrible.> > I have found in most dictator's horoscope, Lagna has Jup few arrogant > type of people may have moon also therein.> > But not able to understand where to see the massive killing and > crime against women that he did. What turned him negatively ?> > > regards,> Lalit.> > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, saurabh chaturvedi > <chaturvedisaurabh2 002@> wrote:> >> > Hello Members,> > > > Please find the horoscopes of Lord Ram and Pt. Raavan.> > > > > > Horoscope of Ravana ---> > > > Ascendant--- Aries> > 1st house- Sun> > 2nd- Mercury> > 4th- Jupiter, Moon> > 5th- Ketu> > 7th- Saturn> > 10th- Mars> > 11th- Rahu> > 12th- Venus> > > > > > Horoscope Of Shri Ram---> > > > Ascendant--- Cancer> > 1st house- Moon, Jupiter> > 4th- Saturn> > 5th- Rahu> > 7th- Mars> > 9th- Venus> > 10th- Sun> > 11th- Mercury, Ketu> > > > > > Thanks and Regards,> > saurabh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ****> > > > "Kuchh Sapanon Ke Mar Jaane Se, Jeevan Nahin Maraa Karataa > Hai" > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on > http://help. / l/in// mail/mail/ tools/tools- 08.html/> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Resp Chandrasheklhari Ji, I got this shloka in some of the book on prashna, it's not for native horoscope rather for transit, not able to recall where i have read this shloka, either in Badrayan's Prashna Vidya or Krishneeyam ( A Kerla text, presented by Late Sri Muthuswami). regards, Lalit Vedic Astrologyandhealing , vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Dear Shri Chandrasekhar ji, > Death as a result of Guru placed in 8th took place in a fierce war and finally could attain moksha(?) through the arrows of Lord Shri Ramchandra. > Iam enlightened for the clarification and the chart of Ravana ,the king demons has to be taken right earnestly. > regards > vrkrishnan > > --- On Tue, 8/5/08, Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar > Re: [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: Horoscopes of Shri Ram and Raavan... > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 1:22 PM Dear Krishnan, > > A famous shloka, oft quoted by H N Katwe that gives how Guru occupying each of the bhava gives ill results says that Jupiter in the 8th sent Ravana to his death. So, is the chart of Ravana given here right? > > Chandrashekhar. > > vattem krishnan wrote: > Sir, > Astrologically horoscopes of the mighty Ravana,though known to be on the opposite side of God's is known to be a great devotee of lord Shiva and is having a " karanjanma " (to fight with Shri Ram Ji) > Also Lord Rama has to fulfil the wish liberate Sita ji from the clutches of rakshshas by crossing the setu. > Death of Dasradha and proceeding to Aranya vasam are all haapenings that Lord has faced in his Rama Avatars.Such horoscopes and the stellar positions behind planets hardly indicate differences between Lord Ram(Vishnu avataar) and Ravan Ji(great devotee of Lord Shiv ji) Their 5th house and 9th and 10th houses if explored may fairly bring out the importance of various planets > vrkrishnan > > --- On Mon, 8/4/08, litsol <litsol > wrote: > > litsol <litsol > > [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Re: Horoscopes of Shri Ram and Raavan... > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com > Monday, August 4, 2008, 10:44 AM > > > > > Sorry, > > I did a funny mistake, looked Lord Ram's horoscope considering that's > Ravana's horocope and got confused. Didn't notice 4'th saturn is > exalted, Sorry, Extremely Sorry ! > > A Deva and A Rakschha both will have compatible horoscope in terms of > fear and dictatorshop but one will use that for positive purpose > while other one will use that for negative purpose. > > regards, > Lalit. > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " litsol " > <litsol@> wrote: > > > > RK Daa and Aavesh Sir, > > > > Pls. tell us what in ravan's horoscope made him a ravan, lagna's > > combo makes him great egoist but what made him a rakschhasa, 4'th > > saturn will make him cynical,ungrateful, 7'th mars will fill > fanatism > > in him by exchange of aspetcs with Jup and Moon, this also makes > him > > horrible. > > > > I have found in most dictator's horoscope, Lagna has Jup few > arrogant > > type of people may have moon also therein. > > > > But not able to understand where to see the massive killing and > > crime against women that he did. What turned him negatively ? > > > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, saurabh chaturvedi > > <chaturvedisaurabh2 002@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello Members, > > > > > > Please find the horoscopes of Lord Ram and Pt. Raavan. > > > > > > > > > Horoscope of Ravana --- > > > > > > Ascendant--- Aries > > > 1st house- Sun > > > 2nd- Mercury > > > 4th- Jupiter, Moon > > > 5th- Ketu > > > 7th- Saturn > > > 10th- Mars > > > 11th- Rahu > > > 12th- Venus > > > > > > > > > Horoscope Of Shri Ram--- > > > > > > Ascendant--- Cancer > > > 1st house- Moon, Jupiter > > > 4th- Saturn > > > 5th- Rahu > > > 7th- Mars > > > 9th- Venus > > > 10th- Sun > > > 11th- Mercury, Ketu > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > saurabh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* **** > > > > > > " Kuchh Sapanon Ke Mar Jaane Se, Jeevan Nahin Maraa Karataa > > Hai " > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on > > http://help. / l/in// mail/mail/ tools/tools- 08.html/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Dear Lalit, It is a well known shloka that my father too used to recite, when talking about effect of Guru on the house occupied. Take care, Chandrashekhar. litsol wrote: Resp Chandrasheklhari Ji, I got this shloka in some of the book on prashna, it's not for native horoscope rather for transit, not able to recall where i have read this shloka, either in Badrayan's Prashna Vidya or Krishneeyam ( A Kerla text, presented by Late Sri Muthuswami). regards, Lalit Vedic Astrologyandhealing , vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Dear Shri Chandrasekhar ji, > Death as a result of Guru placed in 8th took place in a fierce war and finally could attain moksha(?) through the arrows of Lord Shri Ramchandra. > Iam enlightened for the clarification and the chart of Ravana ,the king demons has to be taken right earnestly. > regards > vrkrishnan > > --- On Tue, 8/5/08, Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar > Re: [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: Horoscopes of Shri Ram and Raavan... > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 1:22 PM > > > > > > > Dear Krishnan, > > A famous shloka, oft quoted by H N Katwe that gives how Guru occupying each of the bhava gives ill results says that Jupiter in the 8th sent Ravana to his death. So, is the chart of Ravana given here right? > > Chandrashekhar. > > vattem krishnan wrote: > > > > > > > > Sir, > Astrologically horoscopes of the mighty Ravana,though known to be on the opposite side of God's is known to be a great devotee of lord Shiva and is having a "karanjanma" (to fight with Shri Ram Ji) > Also Lord Rama has to fulfil the wish liberate Sita ji from the clutches of rakshshas by crossing the setu. > Death of Dasradha and proceeding to Aranya vasam are all haapenings that Lord has faced in his Rama Avatars.Such horoscopes and the stellar positions behind planets hardly indicate differences between Lord Ram(Vishnu avataar) and Ravan Ji(great devotee of Lord Shiv ji) Their 5th house and 9th and 10th houses if explored may fairly bring out the importance of various planets > vrkrishnan > > --- On Mon, 8/4/08, litsol <litsol > wrote: > > litsol <litsol > > [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Re: Horoscopes of Shri Ram and Raavan... > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com > Monday, August 4, 2008, 10:44 AM > > > > > Sorry, > > I did a funny mistake, looked Lord Ram's horoscope considering that's > Ravana's horocope and got confused. Didn't notice 4'th saturn is > exalted, Sorry, Extremely Sorry ! > > A Deva and A Rakschha both will have compatible horoscope in terms of > fear and dictatorshop but one will use that for positive purpose > while other one will use that for negative purpose. > > regards, > Lalit. > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" > <litsol@> wrote: > > > > RK Daa and Aavesh Sir, > > > > Pls. tell us what in ravan's horoscope made him a ravan, lagna's > > combo makes him great egoist but what made him a rakschhasa, 4'th > > saturn will make him cynical,ungrateful, 7'th mars will fill > fanatism > > in him by exchange of aspetcs with Jup and Moon, this also makes > him > > horrible. > > > > I have found in most dictator's horoscope, Lagna has Jup few > arrogant > > type of people may have moon also therein. > > > > But not able to understand where to see the massive killing and > > crime against women that he did. What turned him negatively ? > > > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, saurabh chaturvedi > > <chaturvedisaurabh2 002@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello Members, > > > > > > Please find the horoscopes of Lord Ram and Pt. Raavan. > > > > > > > > > Horoscope of Ravana --- > > > > > > Ascendant--- Aries > > > 1st house- Sun > > > 2nd- Mercury > > > 4th- Jupiter, Moon > > > 5th- Ketu > > > 7th- Saturn > > > 10th- Mars > > > 11th- Rahu > > > 12th- Venus > > > > > > > > > Horoscope Of Shri Ram--- > > > > > > Ascendant--- Cancer > > > 1st house- Moon, Jupiter > > > 4th- Saturn > > > 5th- Rahu > > > 7th- Mars > > > 9th- Venus > > > 10th- Sun > > > 11th- Mercury, Ketu > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > saurabh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* **** > > > > > > "Kuchh Sapanon Ke Mar Jaane Se, Jeevan Nahin Maraa Karataa > > Hai" > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on > > http://help. / l/in// mail/mail/ tools/tools- 08.html/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Hello Litsol and others, If u are interested in Lord Rama s horoscope. Then please consider the fact that his shani was retrogate. Its very important point. I have seen others skipping this thing.So just take care. thanks, dheeraj Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > Resp Chandrasheklhari Ji, > > I got this shloka in some of the book on prashna, it's not for native > horoscope rather for transit, not able to recall where i have read > this shloka, either in Badrayan's Prashna Vidya or Krishneeyam ( A > Kerla text, presented by Late Sri Muthuswami). > > regards, > Lalit > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , vattem krishnan > <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > Dear Shri Chandrasekhar ji, > > Death as a result of Guru placed in 8th took place in a fierce war > and finally could attain moksha(?) through the arrows of Lord Shri > Ramchandra. > > Iam enlightened for the clarification and the chart of Ravana ,the > king demons has to be taken right earnestly. > > regards > > vrkrishnan > > > > --- On Tue, 8/5/08, Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar@> > wrote: > > > > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar@> > > Re: [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: Horoscopes of Shri Ram > and Raavan... > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 1:22 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Krishnan, > > > > A famous shloka, oft quoted by H N Katwe that gives how Guru > occupying each of the bhava gives ill results says that Jupiter in > the 8th sent Ravana to his death. So, is the chart of Ravana given > here right? > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > vattem krishnan wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, > > Astrologically horoscopes of the mighty Ravana,though known to be > on the opposite side of God's is known to be a great devotee of lord > Shiva and is having a " karanjanma " (to fight with Shri Ram Ji) > > Also Lord Rama has to fulfil the wish liberate Sita ji from the > clutches of rakshshas by crossing the setu. > > Death of Dasradha and proceeding to Aranya vasam are all haapenings > that Lord has faced in his Rama Avatars.Such horoscopes and the > stellar positions behind planets hardly indicate differences between > Lord Ram(Vishnu avataar) and Ravan Ji(great devotee of Lord Shiv ji) > Their 5th house and 9th and 10th houses if explored may fairly bring > out the importance of various planets > > vrkrishnan > > > > --- On Mon, 8/4/08, litsol <litsol > wrote: > > > > litsol <litsol > > > [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Re: Horoscopes of Shri Ram and > Raavan... > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com > > Monday, August 4, 2008, 10:44 AM > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, > > > > I did a funny mistake, looked Lord Ram's horoscope considering > that's > > Ravana's horocope and got confused. Didn't notice 4'th saturn is > > exalted, Sorry, Extremely Sorry ! > > > > A Deva and A Rakschha both will have compatible horoscope in terms > of > > fear and dictatorshop but one will use that for positive purpose > > while other one will use that for negative purpose. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " litsol " > > <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > RK Daa and Aavesh Sir, > > > > > > Pls. tell us what in ravan's horoscope made him a ravan, lagna's > > > combo makes him great egoist but what made him a rakschhasa, 4'th > > > saturn will make him cynical,ungrateful, 7'th mars will fill > > fanatism > > > in him by exchange of aspetcs with Jup and Moon, this also makes > > him > > > horrible. > > > > > > I have found in most dictator's horoscope, Lagna has Jup few > > arrogant > > > type of people may have moon also therein. > > > > > > But not able to understand where to see the massive killing and > > > crime against women that he did. What turned him negatively ? > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, saurabh > chaturvedi > > > <chaturvedisaurabh2 002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Members, > > > > > > > > Please find the horoscopes of Lord Ram and Pt. Raavan. > > > > > > > > > > > > Horoscope of Ravana --- > > > > > > > > Ascendant--- Aries > > > > 1st house- Sun > > > > 2nd- Mercury > > > > 4th- Jupiter, Moon > > > > 5th- Ketu > > > > 7th- Saturn > > > > 10th- Mars > > > > 11th- Rahu > > > > 12th- Venus > > > > > > > > > > > > Horoscope Of Shri Ram--- > > > > > > > > Ascendant--- Cancer > > > > 1st house- Moon, Jupiter > > > > 4th- Saturn > > > > 5th- Rahu > > > > 7th- Mars > > > > 9th- Venus > > > > 10th- Sun > > > > 11th- Mercury, Ketu > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > > saurabh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* > **** > > > > > > > > " Kuchh Sapanon Ke Mar Jaane Se, Jeevan Nahin Maraa Karataa > > > Hai " > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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