Saturn-transit over Natal Saturn : shantaramkhrd Ji

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Dear Shri lalit ji and Shntaram ji,

The concern looks to be on account:

Saturn in leo

Ketu in Cancer and Rahu in Makara as of now.

Broadly these transit effects in mundane perspective can be of some significance with reference to a country,rulers and persons of importance and in position of public importance.otherwise these gochara effects with reference to Individual charts have a different significane.on the basis of dasa system if at all some thing bad to occur it will not be more than 30% of gochara results

In case jupiter joins makara in Nov 2008,the gochara effects can broadly be on the basis of mundane aspects will be:

too much of scrutiny in working atmosphere,efficieny is the measure for judging abilities

financial bunglings

temples and places of worships getting desecrated

saints and Achryas becoming a mockery

Public Institution coming under attack anad communal hatred

Even women assuming more freedom and getting into hypocracy

Increase of transexualism.neutral genders/aqatics increse many folds

Saturn in Leo

Alreay we have seen top leaders under scruting of general publics

CEO to worry about his safety for any injustice

Communal fueds and party's based on religion get attentions.

reservations and quotas becoming order of the day.

father/Parents facing wrath of younger ones

suffering of wild animals,losses of wheat and rice

forest fires and burning of locomotives

prices of fuels going up

shaky precious metals. prices

 

these are some of the mundane effects.In individual horoscopes,saturn transit normally considered as bad but may defer depending on various othr factors.

vrkrishnan--- On Tue, 9/23/08, litsol <litsol wrote:

litsol <litsol[Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: Saturn-transit over Natal Saturn : shantaramkhrd JiVedic Astrologyandhealing Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 4:12 AM

 

 

Dear Sri Shantaramkhrd Ji,You are point to the true scenario which may emerge before me -1. "jupiter moving to makara dec. and conjoining rahu and the disposiorinthe 8th house may create some losses with respect to elders, groups,income matters - may need to observe the trends and wathchout perhaps".2. "ketu/mercury dasa may lead to sudden multiple events and achallengeto the intelligence with jupiter-mercury opposition in transit,may be such opportunities - may need to be observant here and take wisedecisions without haste or anxiety not coloured by any unwanted perceptions caused by jupiter-rahu" .We all are here, let's see, how i face it, Saturn should not deter me, Iwill look what he does.regards,Lalit.Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com,

"shantaramkhrd"<shantaramkhrd@ ...> wrote:>> Shri Lalitji,>> sun-mars in the 6th house should enable override the enemy especially> sun being in own house and saturn being lord of the 8th house/vijaya;> saturn lord of the 12th in the 6th causes vipareeta rajayoga by normal> inference. maybe somesthing positive will emerge from this> dharmayuddha, who knows! tranist jupiter own house in the 10th> aspescting the 6th is probably keeping the situation passified and> under control till dec; the dharmayuddha may then accelerate till> saturn moves out from there, saturn seems to be playing a suppressing> role and needs to be passified perhaps with prayers to kalbhairav> calling for support in overcoming the enemies.>> jupiter moving to makara dec. and conjoining rahu and the disposior in> the 8th house may create some losses with respect to

elders, groups,> income matters - may need to observe the trends and wathchout perhaps.>> mercury is badhaka for meena lagna positioned in the 5th trikona house> strengthening the badhakatwa catalysed by ketu's association -> ketu/mercury dasa may lead to sudden multiple events and a challenge> to the intelligence with jupiter-mercury opposition in transit, may be> such opportunities - may need to be observant here and take wise> decisions without haste or anxiety not coloured by any unwanted> perceptions caused by jupiter-rahu.>> i am only sharing my vague perceptions of the scenario based on my> limited approach, stimulating further analysis and sharing by the> experts! regards and best wishes!!>>> kshantaram>>>> Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" litsol@> wrote:> >> >> > Sir,> >> > Thanx for sharing the life's experience thereby educating us, thisis> > the best way to shed light in understanding the planetaryimplications,> > I m facing lots of conspiracies in my own work, Mine is a PiscesLagna> > with Sun+ Mars in 6'th and Guru in 10'th, Rasi is in scorpio. Sincewhen> > Saturn started it's transit on Leo, My immediate bosses startedturning> > hostile, That i never bothered coz my prformance and output wasvisibly> > better, but, what i find is they are making their best to hide my> > visibility in a systematic manner, though i m known in theorganization,> > there is enough happened to overshadow my contribution. I do notknow> > whither to it will

proceed. My Ketu - Merc dasha is likely to beginand> > Ketu is conjunct with Mercury in 5'th house aspected by Saturn from3rd> > house, so, mercury has saturnine influence, however, in Merc - Ketu,> > dasha I was a topper in my state.> >> > regards,> > Lalit.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, vattem krishnan> > <bursar_99@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Shri Lalit ji and Shantaram ji,> > > Iam just inclined to say few experiences of saturn transits in mylife> > and this may be of some understanding to know the extent of transits> > play in any one's life.> > > If impact of dasa

system is about 70% to understand evolution of> > life,the remaining 30% that comes out of Gochara/Transit is onlyGod's> > blessings.To ravel this in Astrology it needs great effort and also> > blessings of Supreme Power> > > Recently say an year ago and eralier in 2004 I had experiencedtransit> > of Saturn over Natal saturn was experienced by me.> > > Ofcourse San is my rasi lord posited in my 7th(from moon sign)along> > with Sun and Venus in the tender sign of Karka owned by Moon.> > > All along I had been an officer of the Govt of India withrecognition> > and got love and affection from one and all.in various parts ofcountry> > > I remebr my posting to NTPC,Korba(M. P) and the assignment I wasgiven> > on bais of merit and selection for developing the mega thermal power> > project.> >

> Ofcourse moon n my 2nd house from lagna, never helped to make anyfast> > buck in conditions ideal for making wealth.> > > ofcourse my younger days were sgnificantly of struggles and> > recognition in my student life and also in social life.> > > The rise was getting delayed and even led to fustation and the> > unexpected selction for a foriegn assignment was a rewrd that end of> > jupiter dasa in my life gave,whe saturn was transiting> > > Infact transit of saturn over natal saturn depends on the sign in> > which your natal saturn s located.In a way odd signs like simhabring> > about more challenges and one has to be more careful.> > > But Saturn in 8th house in natal chart transited by saturn onefinds> > shocking escapes from unexpected incidents in which one could have> > almost lost his life.>

> > From 2003-4 I had:> > > " The transit of Saturn over natal Saturn should turn out to bethe> > > > most important period of one's life. Great changes may accrue toone> > > > and one will experience great impact of Saturn.> > > But then the wave of same kind of affection/ popularity continuedto> > be my asset till now.Infact his has given me a kind ofdisappointment> > too.It is because that If I have to have any recognition of my ownit> > comes only through my effort and my interactions with others.> > > From lagna saturn,in my natal chart is in 8th house.> > >> > > 2.During this period I was successful(satrun transit to cancer andleo> > in 2006-07) in All India Selection process to resumeresponsibilities in> > premiere women dominated and sensitive orgnaisation near

toRajasthan> > ,Jaipur> > > .As I was stabilising there,had opportunity to shift to work witha> > most renowned trust and with major financial responsibilitiesinvolving> > frequent ineractions with His Excellency and Governor of the Stateas> > the Head of the Trust in a sensitive state in north of India closeto> > Himalayan ranges.> > > The professional conditions I managed in a premiere Institute like> > Indian Institute of Technology,Delhi for long time and the present> > conditions after"ashtama sani" also remained the same.> > > Ofcourse with this kind of sensitivities, some times I onlyfeel,that> > working with zeal and endurance all through life is not an easytask.So> > changes that saturn transits bring vary and can not be generalised> > as:The crystallized professional conditions

are vanished and adventof a> > fateful and remarkable period is indicated by this transit".> > > The desire aspect of life during the dasa of Saturn is to settledown> > away from clamour and to carry out something useful for self and for> > younger lot.So the issue of material success is also not probably> > correct as my jupiter in 11th as lagna lord never gave me anopportunity> > except to bring up my family on my own hard work and earnings.Thisalso> > probably can not be inferred on holistic basis:"> > > "The native desires material successes and opts for recognition in> > society. The transit bestows staying power besides all sorts of oddsand> > the native stabilizes his position and makes long range projects> > possible.> > > These transits no doubt has bearings in the unfoldings

oflife.Then> > not something different from what you are destined to as per yournatal> > configurations.> > > For me as an ascendant of Dhanur Lagna is that you have to workout> > your own way and the rewards that bring in life may or may notcontend> > you.> > > Life has always been a great pleasure as long as you give something> > to the society in which you are part than to seek any rewards.> > > Any reward you get n life is the hard work and preservance of your> > life.This struggle if to be taken as Karma to do in karma bhoomithat> > can be the happiest thing in life> > > vrkrishnan> > >> > > --- On Sat, 9/20/08, shantaramkhrd shantaramkhrd@ wrote:> > >> > > shantaramkhrd shantaramkhrd@> > > [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Re:

Saturn-transit over Natal> > Saturn - Planets & Forecast, March, 1989> > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com> > > Saturday, September 20, 2008, 5:08 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > 6th jan 1056, 01-57am, tenali/andhra> > >> > > saturn transit saturn in vrischika, had to unexpectedly leave my> > > parents home after 30 years in early 1987 for career prospects and> > > then never stabilised so far> > >> > > current sani-rahu dasa, rise and fall, seeking job!> > >> > > an elderly friend kumbha lagna/and kumbha moon with saturn-mars in7th> > > house,current saturn transit saturn, retired from

service, leaving> > > back for native place, purchased house there, selling house here,> > > children gradually settling down in career.> > >> > > just some stray sharings!\> > >> > > regards/kshantaram, ahmedabad> > >> > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol"litsol@> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Saturn-transit over Natal Saturn> > > > Ask someone who appears distressed, sickly, growing beard andliving> > in> > > > loneliness that what was the matter with him? One may give asimple> > > > reply: Running through 7½ years period or 2½ yrs. period.Such> > is> > > > the disastrous reputation earned by Saturn.> > > > Saturn is concerned with the work in life. According to

Hindu> > > > mythology, it has to carry out duty of Lord Shiva and isconsidered> > as> > > > the son of Sun. Also it is known as father of Gulika and Mandi.> > > > Saturn is a male planet. By nature it is considered as malefic> > > > endangering extirpating results in its various unfavourablemajor> > > > periods and transits.> > > > Saturn is acknowledged as first rate malefic in the horoscopes> > > > with Aries, Cancer, Sagittarius & Pisces Ascendants. Saturn may> > yield> > > > propitious results if it is placed in 3rd, 6th or 11th house,> > whereas> > > > the malefic effects of it get reduced if Saturn is placed in its> > > > exaltation sign, moola-trikona sign or own sign viz. Libra,Aquarius> > and> > > > Capricorn.

Saturn in these signs pave the way for one to be a> > > > humanitarian, conscientious, philanthropist and reformer, albeitit> > may> > > > be posited in a malefic house i.e. not in 3rd, 6th or 11thhouse.> > Also> > > > it escalates ascetic qualities in the native, provided thebenefic> > > > result of Venus is not found in the horoscope (As unfavourableVenus> > > > restricts the pleasure of luxuries and worldly affairs).> > > > In the transiting chart, the work-load is heavy during theperiod> > > > of retrograde Saturn. Unrest, in some or other form, emerges inthe> > > > society, when it is stationary retrograde or stationary direct.In> > the> > > > personal chart also uncertainty or tension mounts in some formwhich> > may> > >

> culminate in transfer or change of job. But it is desirable notto> > > > change job under a retrograde Saturn. The situation becomes even> > worse> > > > if Saturn is transiting through 4th, 8th or 12th house from theMoon> > in> > > > the personal chart.> > > >> > > >> > > > The transit of Saturn over natal Saturn should turn out to bethe> > > > most important period of one's life. Great changes may accrue toone> > > > and one will experience great impact of Saturn. The crystallized> > > > professional conditions are vanished and advent of a fateful and> > > > remarkable period is indicated by this transit. The nativedesires> > > > material successes and opts for recognition in society. Thetransit> > > > bestows

staying power besides all sorts of odds and the native> > > > stabilizes his position and makes long range projects possible.The> > > > native involves himself in serious mathematical, scientific,> > business or> > > > political activity. A review of the past activities is sensibly> > carried> > > > to implement the future plans.> > > >> > > >> > > > The transit occurs in individual horoscope after every> > > twenty-nine> > > > years. During the first transit which takes place at 27 yrs. to29> > yrs.,> > > > the individual assumes full-fledged responsibilities. The 2nd> > transit at> > > > 58 yrs. to 60 yrs. is marked by a high turning point inindividual> > > > career.> > > >> > >

>> > > > I would like to preponderate the above mentioned facts by virtue> > > > of some examples related to the field of politics.> > > >> > > >> > > > Chart-I belongs to the U P Chief Minister Mr. N D Tiwari born on> > > > 18-10-1925 with exalted Saturn in Libra. He became the C.M. ofU.P.> > in> > > > 1976-77 and again from 3-8-1984 to September '85. The secondtransit> > > > of Saturn over natal Saturn, i.e. Libra in 1984 resulted in his> > > > reinstallation as C.M. and also that, under his leadership theparty> > > > secured a thumping majority.> > > >> > > >> > > > Chart-II belongs to Mr. Motilal Vora, Union Health Minister born> > > > on 20-12-1928 with Saturn in Scorpio. During the 2nd transit

in> > Scorpio,> > > > in 1985 he was appointed as C.M. of M.P. and his tenure lastedtill> > the> > > > transit of Saturn in Scorpio. With Saturn leaving the natalposition> > and> > > > transiting through 10th house from Moon he was shifted tocentre.> > > >> > > >> > > > Chart-III belongs to Arjun Singh, C.M. of M.P. born on 5-11-1930> > > > with Saturn in Sagittarius. The transit of Saturn through 8thhouse> > from> > > > Moon in 1985 created his stay away from M.P. As soon as Saturncame> > in> > > > Sagittarius in December 1987, the signs of his return dawned inthe> > > > political horizon. However, Mars in 8th house from the Moon till> > 10th> > > > February '88 delayed the C.M.-ship. On 13th Feb.

'88 he assumed> > > > as C.M. of M.P.> > > >> > > >> > > > In both the cases Saturn was transiting through 9th house> > > from the> > > > Moon (Chart-II and III). By conventional method and Nadiprinciples> > > > which are not considered to be favourable one. But the persons> > enjoyed> > > > the position due to staying power of Saturn in natal place.> > > >> > > > Chart-IV belongs to R K Hegde, ex-C.M. of Karnataka, born in> > > > August 1926 with Saturn in Libra. Assumed the C.M.-ship ofKarnataka> > > > during the 2nd transit of Saturn in Librain 1983. Enjoyed a good> > > > reputation during its transit through Libra and Scorpio whichfall> > in> > > > 6th and 7th house from his Moon sign i.e. Taurus. The

Transit of> > Saturn> > > > in Sagittarius i.e. 8th house brought in a wave of mounting> > > > dissatisfaction against his leadership, consequently generatingthe> > > > circumstances compelling him to resign.> > > >> > > >> > > > The former American President Nixon and present Vice-President> > > > George Bush have Saturn in Taurus and Libra respectively intheir> > > > horoscopes. And both these leaders attained and continued in the> > high> > > > offices during the 2nd transit of Saturn in Taurus and Libra.> > > >> > > >> > > > In all these cases one point must always be kept in mind i.e.> > > > Saturn transiting natal position should not be 4th, 8th or 12th> > house> > > > from natal Moon. To

achieve the desired beak-through, thehoroscope> > > > should be ably supported by the transit of Jupiter, Mars, Sunand> > Rahu.> > > >> > > >> > > > The transit of Saturn as observed adduces a great inspirationand> > > > fighting power in the native and when it is equally supported by> > transit> > > > of other planets the native accomplishes the long awaitedsuccess.> > > >> > > >> > > > Chart-I : (18-10-1925) Libra: Sun, Moon & Saturn; Scorpio:Venus;> > > > Sagittarius: Jupiter; Capricorn: Ketu; Cancer: Rahu; Leo:Mercury;> > > > Virgo: Mars.> > > > Chart-II: (20-12-1928) Libra: Asc.; Scorpio: Saturn & Ketu;> > > > Sagittarius: Sun & Mercury; Capricorn: Venus; Pisces: Moon;Aries:>

> > > Jupiter; Taurus: Rahu; Gemini: Mars.> > > > Chart-III: (5-11-1930) Gemini: Asc.; Cancer: Mars; Virgo: Ketu;> > > > Libra: Sun & Mercury; Scorpio: Venus; Sagittarius: Saturn;Pisces:> > Rahu;> > > > Aries: the Moon.> > > > Chart-IV: Libra: Asc. & Saturn; Sagittarius: Ketu; Capricorn:> > > > Jupiter; Aries: Mars; Taurus: the Moon; Gemini: Rahu; Cancer:> > Mercury & > > > > Venus; Leo: the Sun. by Parminder Singh Chawla, (Condensed from> > Planets> > > > & Forecast, March, 1989)> > > >> > >> >>

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All the best and wish you success in your endeavours--- On Tue, 9/23/08, litsol <litsol wrote:

litsol <litsol[Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: Saturn-transit over Natal Saturn : shantaramkhrd JiVedic Astrologyandhealing Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 12:23 PM

 

 

Sir,Your finding seem to be true, you have vast experience in the field,during the last transit of Jup over Moon which alone is said to becapable of making one unstable in his understakings, I got promotion andunexpected hike of 47% of total CTC.During this Ketu - Sat dasha though I faced tough condition and somepolitics at work, I have not gone down my level and I hope to get somereward in next couple of weeks.Sri K. N Rao states one story that there was a sage just forgetting hisname to whom once Saturn tormented, he got angry and in the return,plucked off the saturn from the solar system, If this saturn, tries todo something dramatic to me , I will see his malific impact is decreasedto the level one's love and career doesn't go upsidedown, doesnt end byit's transit, aspect or dasha, let him give lessons to people but not totorture.regards,Lalit.Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, vattem krishnan<bursar_99@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Shri lalit ji and Shntaram ji,> The concern looks to be on account:> Saturn in leo> Ketu in Cancer and Rahu in Makara as of now.> Broadly these transit effects in mundane perspective can be of somesignificance with reference to a country,rulers and persons ofimportance and in position of public importance.otherwis e these gocharaeffects with reference to Individual charts have a differentsignificane. on the basis of dasa system if at all some thing bad tooccur it will not be more than 30% of gochara results> In case jupiter joins makara in Nov 2008,the gochara effects canbroadly be on the basis of mundane aspects will be:> too much of scrutiny in working atmosphere,efficien y is the

measurefor judging abilities> financial bunglings> temples and places of worships getting desecrated> saints and Achryas becoming a mockery> Public Institution coming under attack anad communal hatred> Even women assuming more freedom and getting into hypocracy> Increase of transexualism. neutral genders/aqatics increse many folds> Saturn in Leo> Alreay we have seen top leaders under scruting of general publics> CEO to worry about his safety for any injustice> Communal fueds and party's based on religion get attentions.> reservations and quotas becoming order of the day.> father/Parents facing wrath of younger ones> suffering of wild animals,losses of wheat and rice> forest fires and burning of locomotives> prices of fuels going up> shaky precious metals. prices>> these are some of the mundane effects.In individual

horoscopes,saturntransit normally considered as bad but may defer depending on variousothr factors.> vrkrishnan>> --- On Tue, 9/23/08, litsol litsol wrote:>> litsol litsol [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Re: Saturn-transit over NatalSaturn : shantaramkhrd Ji> Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com> Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 4:12 AM>>>>>>>> Dear Sri Shantaramkhrd Ji,>> You are point to the true scenario which may emerge before me ->> 1. "jupiter moving to makara dec. and conjoining rahu and thedisposior> in> the 8th house may create some losses with respect to elders, groups,> income matters - may need to observe the trends and

wathchoutperhaps".>> 2. "ketu/mercury dasa may lead to sudden multiple events and a> challengeto the intelligence with jupiter-mercury opposition intransit,> may be such opportunities - may need to be observant here and takewise> decisions without haste or anxiety not coloured by any unwanted> perceptions caused by jupiter-rahu" .>> We all are here, let's see, how i face it, Saturn should not deter me,I> will look what he does.>> regards,> Lalit.>> Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "shantaramkhrd"> <shantaramkhrd@ ...> wrote:> >> > Shri Lalitji,> >> > sun-mars in the 6th house should enable override the enemyespecially> > sun being in own house and saturn being lord of the 8thhouse/vijaya;> > saturn lord of the 12th in the 6th causes vipareeta

rajayoga bynormal> > inference. maybe somesthing positive will emerge from this> > dharmayuddha, who knows! tranist jupiter own house in the 10th> > aspescting the 6th is probably keeping the situation passified and> > under control till dec; the dharmayuddha may then accelerate till> > saturn moves out from there, saturn seems to be playing asuppressing> > role and needs to be passified perhaps with prayers to kalbhairav> > calling for support in overcoming the enemies.> >> > jupiter moving to makara dec. and conjoining rahu and the disposiorin> > the 8th house may create some losses with respect to elders, groups,> > income matters - may need to observe the trends and wathchoutperhaps.> >> > mercury is badhaka for meena lagna positioned in the 5th trikonahouse> > strengthening the badhakatwa

catalysed by ketu's association -> > ketu/mercury dasa may lead to sudden multiple events and a challenge> > to the intelligence with jupiter-mercury opposition in transit, maybe> > such opportunities - may need to be observant here and take wise> > decisions without haste or anxiety not coloured by any unwanted> > perceptions caused by jupiter-rahu.> >> > i am only sharing my vague perceptions of the scenario based on my> > limited approach, stimulating further analysis and sharing by the> > experts! regards and best wishes!!> >> >> > kshantaram> >> >> >> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" litsol@> > wrote:> > >> > >> > > Sir,> > >> > > Thanx for sharing the life's experience thereby

educating us, this> is> > > the best way to shed light in understanding the planetary> implications,> > > I m facing lots of conspiracies in my own work, Mine is a Pisces> Lagna> > > with Sun+ Mars in 6'th and Guru in 10'th, Rasi is in scorpio.Since> when> > > Saturn started it's transit on Leo, My immediate bosses started> turning> > > hostile, That i never bothered coz my prformance and output was> visibly> > > better, but, what i find is they are making their best to hide my> > > visibility in a systematic manner, though i m known in the> organization,> > > there is enough happened to overshadow my contribution. I do not> know> > > whither to it will proceed. My Ketu - Merc dasha is likely tobegin> and> > > Ketu is conjunct with Mercury in 5'th house

aspected by Saturnfrom> 3rd> > > house, so, mercury has saturnine influence, however, in Merc -Ketu,> > > dasha I was a topper in my state.> > >> > > regards,> > > Lalit.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, vattem krishnan> > > <bursar_99@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Shri Lalit ji and Shantaram ji,> > > > Iam just inclined to say few experiences of saturn transits inmy> life> > > and this may be of some understanding to know the extent oftransits> > > play in any one's life.> > > > If impact of dasa system is about 70% to understand evolution of> > > life,the

remaining 30% that comes out of Gochara/Transit is only> God's> > > blessings.To ravel this in Astrology it needs great effort andalso> > > blessings of Supreme Power> > > > Recently say an year ago and eralier in 2004 I had experienced> transit> > > of Saturn over Natal saturn was experienced by me.> > > > Ofcourse San is my rasi lord posited in my 7th(from moon sign)> along> > > with Sun and Venus in the tender sign of Karka owned by Moon.> > > > All along I had been an officer of the Govt of India with> recognition> > > and got love and affection from one and all.in various parts of> country> > > > I remebr my posting to NTPC,Korba(M. P) and the assignment I was> given> > > on bais of merit and selection for developing the mega thermalpower> > >

project.> > > > Ofcourse moon n my 2nd house from lagna, never helped to makeany> fast> > > buck in conditions ideal for making wealth.> > > > ofcourse my younger days were sgnificantly of struggles and> > > recognition in my student life and also in social life.> > > > The rise was getting delayed and even led to fustation and the> > > unexpected selction for a foriegn assignment was a rewrd that endof> > > jupiter dasa in my life gave,whe saturn was transiting> > > > Infact transit of saturn over natal saturn depends on the signin> > > which your natal saturn s located.In a way odd signs like simha> bring> > > about more challenges and one has to be more careful.> > > > But Saturn in 8th house in natal chart transited by saturn one> finds> > >

shocking escapes from unexpected incidents in which one could have> > > almost lost his life.> > > > From 2003-4 I had:> > > > " The transit of Saturn over natal Saturn should turn out to be> the> > > > > most important period of one's life. Great changes may accrueto> one> > > > > and one will experience great impact of Saturn.> > > > But then the wave of same kind of affection/ popularitycontinued> to> > > be my asset till now.Infact his has given me a kind of> disappointment> > > too.It is because that If I have to have any recognition of my own> it> > > comes only through my effort and my interactions with others.> > > > From lagna saturn,in my natal chart is in 8th house.> > > >> > > > 2.During this period I was

successful(satrun transit to cancerand> leo> > > in 2006-07) in All India Selection process to resume> responsibilities in> > > premiere women dominated and sensitive orgnaisation near to> Rajasthan> > > ,Jaipur> > > > .As I was stabilising there,had opportunity to shift to workwith> a> > > most renowned trust and with major financial responsibilities> involving> > > frequent ineractions with His Excellency and Governor of the State> as> > > the Head of the Trust in a sensitive state in north of India close> to> > > Himalayan ranges.> > > > The professional conditions I managed in a premiere Institutelike> > > Indian Institute of Technology,Delhi for long time and the present> > > conditions after"ashtama sani" also remained the same.> >

> > Ofcourse with this kind of sensitivities, some times I only> feel,that> > > working with zeal and endurance all through life is not an easy> task.So> > > changes that saturn transits bring vary and can not be generalised> > > as:The crystallized professional conditions are vanished andadvent> of a> > > fateful and remarkable period is indicated by this transit".> > > > The desire aspect of life during the dasa of Saturn is to settle> down> > > away from clamour and to carry out something useful for self andfor> > > younger lot.So the issue of material success is also not probably> > > correct as my jupiter in 11th as lagna lord never gave me an> opportunity> > > except to bring up my family on my own hard work and earnings.This> also> > > probably can not be

inferred on holistic basis:"> > > > "The native desires material successes and opts for recognitionin> > > society. The transit bestows staying power besides all sorts ofodds> and> > > the native stabilizes his position and makes long range projects> > > possible.> > > > These transits no doubt has bearings in the unfoldings of> life.Then> > > not something different from what you are destined to as per your> natal> > > configurations.> > > > For me as an ascendant of Dhanur Lagna is that you have to work> out> > > your own way and the rewards that bring in life may or may not> contend> > > you.> > > > Life has always been a great pleasure as long as you give some> thing> > > to the society in which you are part than to seek any

rewards.> > > > Any reward you get n life is the hard work and preservance ofyour> > > life.This struggle if to be taken as Karma to do in karma bhoomi> that> > > can be the happiest thing in life> > > > vrkrishnan> > > >> > > > --- On Sat, 9/20/08, shantaramkhrd shantaramkhrd@ wrote:> > > >> > > > shantaramkhrd shantaramkhrd@> > > > [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Re: Saturn-transit overNatal> > > Saturn - Planets & Forecast, March, 1989> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com> > > > Saturday, September 20, 2008, 5:08 PM> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 6th jan 1056, 01-57am, tenali/andhra>

> > >> > > > saturn transit saturn in vrischika, had to unexpectedly leave my> > > > parents home after 30 years in early 1987 for career prospectsand> > > > then never stabilised so far> > > >> > > > current sani-rahu dasa, rise and fall, seeking job!> > > >> > > > an elderly friend kumbha lagna/and kumbha moon with saturn-marsin> 7th> > > > house,current saturn transit saturn, retired from service,leaving> > > > back for native place, purchased house there, selling househere,> > > > children gradually settling down in career.> > > >> > > > just some stray sharings!\> > > >> > > > regards/kshantaram, ahmedabad> > > >> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@

s.com, "litsol"> litsol@> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Saturn-transit over Natal Saturn> > > > > Ask someone who appears distressed, sickly, growing beard and> living> > > in> > > > > loneliness that what was the matter with him? One may give a> simple> > > > > reply: Running through 7½ years period or 2½ yrs.period.> Such> > > is> > > > > the disastrous reputation earned by Saturn.> > > > > Saturn is concerned with the work in life. According to Hindu> > > > > mythology, it has to carry out duty of Lord Shiva and is> considered> > > as> > > > > the son of Sun. Also it is known as father of Gulika andMandi.> > > > > Saturn is a male planet. By nature it is considered

as malefic> > > > > endangering extirpating results in its various unfavourable> major> > > > > periods and transits.> > > > > Saturn is acknowledged as first rate malefic in the horoscopes> > > > > with Aries, Cancer, Sagittarius & Pisces Ascendants. Saturnmay> > > yield> > > > > propitious results if it is placed in 3rd, 6th or 11th house,> > > whereas> > > > > the malefic effects of it get reduced if Saturn is placed inits> > > > > exaltation sign, moola-trikona sign or own sign viz. Libra,> Aquarius> > > and> > > > > Capricorn. Saturn in these signs pave the way for one to be a> > > > > humanitarian, conscientious, philanthropist and reformer,albeit> it> > > may> > > > > be

posited in a malefic house i.e. not in 3rd, 6th or 11th> house.> > > Also> > > > > it escalates ascetic qualities in the native, provided the> benefic> > > > > result of Venus is not found in the horoscope (As unfavourable> Venus> > > > > restricts the pleasure of luxuries and worldly affairs).> > > > > In the transiting chart, the work-load is heavy during the> period> > > > > of retrograde Saturn. Unrest, in some or other form, emergesin> the> > > > > society, when it is stationary retrograde or stationarydirect.> In> > > the> > > > > personal chart also uncertainty or tension mounts in some form> which> > > may> > > > > culminate in transfer or change of job. But it is desirablenot> to>

> > > > change job under a retrograde Saturn. The situation becomeseven> > > worse> > > > > if Saturn is transiting through 4th, 8th or 12th house fromthe> Moon> > > in> > > > > the personal chart.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > The transit of Saturn over natal Saturn should turn out to be> the> > > > > most important period of one's life. Great changes may accrueto> one> > > > > and one will experience great impact of Saturn. Thecrystallized> > > > > professional conditions are vanished and advent of a fatefuland> > > > > remarkable period is indicated by this transit. The native> desires> > > > > material successes and opts for recognition in society. The> transit> >

> > > bestows staying power besides all sorts of odds and the native> > > > > stabilizes his position and makes long range projectspossible.> The> > > > > native involves himself in serious mathematical, scientific,> > > business or> > > > > political activity. A review of the past activities issensibly> > > carried> > > > > to implement the future plans.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > The transit occurs in individual horoscope after every> > > > twenty-nine> > > > > years. During the first transit which takes place at 27 yrs.to> 29> > > yrs.,> > > > > the individual assumes full-fledged responsibilities. The 2nd> > > transit at> > > > > 58 yrs. to 60 yrs. is marked by

a high turning point in> individual> > > > > career.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > I would like to preponderate the above mentioned facts byvirtue> > > > > of some examples related to the field of politics.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Chart-I belongs to the U P Chief Minister Mr. N D Tiwari bornon> > > > > 18-10-1925 with exalted Saturn in Libra. He became the C.M. of> U.P.> > > in> > > > > 1976-77 and again from 3-8-1984 to September '85. The second> transit> > > > > of Saturn over natal Saturn, i.e. Libra in 1984 resulted inhis> > > > > reinstallation as C.M. and also that, under his leadership the> party> > > > > secured a thumping majority.> > >

> >> > > > >> > > > > Chart-II belongs to Mr. Motilal Vora, Union Health Ministerborn> > > > > on 20-12-1928 with Saturn in Scorpio. During the 2nd transitin> > > Scorpio,> > > > > in 1985 he was appointed as C.M. of M.P. and his tenure lasted> till> > > the> > > > > transit of Saturn in Scorpio. With Saturn leaving the natal> position> > > and> > > > > transiting through 10th house from Moon he was shifted to> centre.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Chart-III belongs to Arjun Singh, C.M. of M.P. born on5-11-1930> > > > > with Saturn in Sagittarius. The transit of Saturn through 8th> house> > > from> > > > > Moon in 1985 created his stay away from M.P. As

soon as Saturn> came> > > in> > > > > Sagittarius in December 1987, the signs of his return dawnedin> the> > > > > political horizon. However, Mars in 8th house from the Moontill> > > 10th> > > > > February '88 delayed the C.M.-ship. On 13th Feb. '88 heassumed> > > > > as C.M. of M.P.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > In both the cases Saturn was transiting through 9th house> > > > from the> > > > > Moon (Chart-II and III). By conventional method and Nadi> principles> > > > > which are not considered to be favourable one. But the persons> > > enjoyed> > > > > the position due to staying power of Saturn in natal place.> > > > >> > > > > Chart-IV

belongs to R K Hegde, ex-C.M. of Karnataka, born in> > > > > August 1926 with Saturn in Libra. Assumed the C.M.-ship of> Karnataka> > > > > during the 2nd transit of Saturn in Librain 1983. Enjoyed agood> > > > > reputation during its transit through Libra and Scorpio which> fall> > > in> > > > > 6th and 7th house from his Moon sign i.e. Taurus. The Transitof> > > Saturn> > > > > in Sagittarius i.e. 8th house brought in a wave of mounting> > > > > dissatisfaction against his leadership, consequentlygenerating> the> > > > > circumstances compelling him to resign.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > The former American President Nixon and present Vice-President> > > > > George Bush have Saturn in

Taurus and Libra respectively in> their> > > > > horoscopes. And both these leaders attained and continued inthe> > > high> > > > > offices during the 2nd transit of Saturn in Taurus and Libra.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > In all these cases one point must always be kept in mind i.e.> > > > > Saturn transiting natal position should not be 4th, 8th or12th> > > house> > > > > from natal Moon. To achieve the desired beak-through, the> horoscope> > > > > should be ably supported by the transit of Jupiter, Mars, Sun> and> > > Rahu.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > The transit of Saturn as observed adduces a great inspiration> and> > > > > fighting power in the native

and when it is equally supportedby> > > transit> > > > > of other planets the native accomplishes the long awaited> success.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Chart-I : (18-10-1925) Libra: Sun, Moon & Saturn; Scorpio:> Venus;> > > > > Sagittarius: Jupiter; Capricorn: Ketu; Cancer: Rahu; Leo:> Mercury;> > > > > Virgo: Mars.> > > > > Chart-II: (20-12-1928) Libra: Asc.; Scorpio: Saturn & Ketu;> > > > > Sagittarius: Sun & Mercury; Capricorn: Venus; Pisces: Moon;> Aries:> > > > > Jupiter; Taurus: Rahu; Gemini: Mars.> > > > > Chart-III: (5-11-1930) Gemini: Asc.; Cancer: Mars; Virgo:Ketu;> > > > > Libra: Sun & Mercury; Scorpio: Venus; Sagittarius: Saturn;> Pisces:> > >

Rahu;> > > > > Aries: the Moon.> > > > > Chart-IV: Libra: Asc. & Saturn; Sagittarius: Ketu; Capricorn:> > > > > Jupiter; Aries: Mars; Taurus: the Moon; Gemini: Rahu; Cancer:> > > Mercury & > > > > > Venus; Leo: the Sun. by Parminder Singh Chawla, (Condensedfrom> > > Planets> > > > > & Forecast, March, 1989)> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>