Positive Side of Debilated Planets

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Dear Group and Elders,

 

since inception of the vedic astrology, seems, no organized effort is

done to check the debilated planets minutely, to describe the psyche of

the person, his prorities in life, his actions and thoughts towards

others and other's actions and thoughts towards him.

 

I sought members contribution which seems very difficult for them to do,

coz they are great evolved Indians, just look at how'z ur India, You

have handed over it's control to stupids and cowards, otherwise, why

such a huge inaction for series of bomb blasts.

 

I have learnt walking alone , unfazed and confident while doing good

for you, A study of Jyotish is no way going to help me alone in my

individual life, I m making effort for everybody.

 

Late Sri Seetaram Jha who collected scattered BPHS's verses from so

many places has quoted some shlokas from Mansagri in which positive side

of debilated planets given, I m quoting them here and w'd discuss them

depending on my convenience.

 

A debilitated planet creates a vacuum in one's life, he misses the

significations of debilitated planet and then does huge effort to fill

the vacuum, either with positive ways or with negative ways, depends on

Lagna, Moon, Dushikya -3rd, Turya- 4'th , Matisthana - 5'th,Tapasthan -

9'th and Karmasthan - 10'th

 

Sun : !! Nisthur Dant Vadanah SamGatra Sthul Janghkar Padah,

StreeVinirVadit Chitto !!

 

" Nisthur " means lack of sensitivity, thick thighs and worries on account

of women, well placed Sun normaly makes one respectful towards womens.

Debilayed Sun instigates one to do activities against the mass and

public property, he is said to be " KaliManah " and " PaapkarmaRatih " .

 

Moon : !! Nrityak Vadak Jalpak DhurtaJanascha Sangatiha Sahasa, Kumatih

Sanshya Nirato !!

 

Interest in dance, music and arts, water games but one also gets cunning

friends to get cheated occasionally, thus he has Krishmana - kumati

(sad and bad mind) and Sanshaya (doubts).

 

Mars : !!Lakshmi (next word is not clear to me) Sthir Vibhao BudhiMan

Gunascha, Ratricharo Chauro Dushtatma !!

 

stable wealth, clever and intelligent coz, well placed mars makes one

straightforward, he doesnt allow one to think in various directions but

when in debility this straightforwardness is reduced and manipulative

mind emerges within the native, his intelligence improves but if lagna

and moon and trikonas are not afflicted, manipulative mind will take the

form of fine creativity, however, one has to live in other's house and

sometimes in a different place then his own country, His anger will be

slow and lasting, he will not express that rather will begin detesting

and still keeping relation with cause of the anger, he has " deenata and

shamita " that means he feels inferior and remain cool before riches and

people of substance.

 

Merc : !! Subha Sumati Urvar Yutiha SubhSheela Bhartri Vachan

Anumudita, Santati Putra Viheeno !!

 

Good quality spouse who follows native's wishes but lack of happiness of

progeny.

 

Jup : !! Divya StreeVarKanchan PushpaFal prakar Pujitah Purushaha,

Parakarm Karo narah SmarViheen Bhartri DeshantaraGo, BhayaRosha Bhak Na

JanaMane Na Manorthaaha !!

 

The native will have spoouse with divine quality and many other good

treatment with respect but people dont get authority, wont have sexual

activism and will have to roam places to places because they dont get

close friends and true support and their desires are not fulfilled, they

have to serve others to any level for getting done their work.

 

 

To be continued ....

 

regards,

Lalit.

[Guest guest]

Dear Lalit,

good u have brought out golden verses but then condemnation of Indians by saying about something about balsts and inaction.India if you see(even horscopically) has been put to lots of stresses and this time in gochara you know also waht is causing stress to our country.

Who can be abused for 200 deaths in jodhpur or Naina Devi.Let's pray that these unfortunate incidents are forbidden and only prayers can help us to come out of these helpless situations

vrkrishnan --- On Thu, 10/2/08, litsol <litsol wrote:

litsol <litsol[Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Positive Side of Debilated PlanetsVedic Astrologyandhealing Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 5:49 AM

 

 

Dear Group and Elders,since inception of the vedic astrology, seems, no organized effort isdone to check the debilated planets minutely, to describe the psyche ofthe person, his prorities in life, his actions and thoughts towardsothers and other's actions and thoughts towards him.I sought members contribution which seems very difficult for them to do,coz they are great evolved Indians, just look at how'z ur India, Youhave handed over it's control to stupids and cowards, otherwise, whysuch a huge inaction for series of bomb blasts.I have learnt walking alone , unfazed and confident while doing goodfor you, A study of Jyotish is no way going to help me alone in myindividual life, I m making effort for everybody.Late Sri Seetaram Jha who collected scattered BPHS's verses from somany places has quoted some shlokas from Mansagri in which positive sideof debilated planets given, I

m quoting them here and w'd discuss themdepending on my convenience.A debilitated planet creates a vacuum in one's life, he misses thesignifications of debilitated planet and then does huge effort to fillthe vacuum, either with positive ways or with negative ways, depends onLagna, Moon, Dushikya -3rd, Turya- 4'th , Matisthana - 5'th,Tapasthan -9'th and Karmasthan - 10'thSun : !! Nisthur Dant Vadanah SamGatra Sthul Janghkar Padah,StreeVinirVadit Chitto !!"Nisthur" means lack of sensitivity, thick thighs and worries on accountof women, well placed Sun normaly makes one respectful towards womens.Debilayed Sun instigates one to do activities against the mass andpublic property, he is said to be "KaliManah" and "PaapkarmaRatih" .Moon : !! Nrityak Vadak Jalpak DhurtaJanascha Sangatiha Sahasa, KumatihSanshya Nirato !!Interest in dance, music and arts, water games but one also gets

cunningfriends to get cheated occasionally, thus he has Krishmana - kumati(sad and bad mind) and Sanshaya (doubts).Mars : !!Lakshmi (next word is not clear to me) Sthir Vibhao BudhiManGunascha, Ratricharo Chauro Dushtatma !!stable wealth, clever and intelligent coz, well placed mars makes onestraightforward, he doesnt allow one to think in various directions butwhen in debility this straightforwardness is reduced and manipulativemind emerges within the native, his intelligence improves but if lagnaand moon and trikonas are not afflicted, manipulative mind will take theform of fine creativity, however, one has to live in other's house andsometimes in a different place then his own country, His anger will beslow and lasting, he will not express that rather will begin detestingand still keeping relation with cause of the anger, he has "deenata andshamita" that means he feels inferior and

remain cool before riches andpeople of substance.Merc : !! Subha Sumati Urvar Yutiha SubhSheela Bhartri VachanAnumudita, Santati Putra Viheeno !!Good quality spouse who follows native's wishes but lack of happiness ofprogeny.Jup : !! Divya StreeVarKanchan PushpaFal prakar Pujitah Purushaha,Parakarm Karo narah SmarViheen Bhartri DeshantaraGo, BhayaRosha Bhak NaJanaMane Na Manorthaaha !!The native will have spoouse with divine quality and many other goodtreatment with respect but people dont get authority, wont have sexualactivism and will have to roam places to places because they dont getclose friends and true support and their desires are not fulfilled, theyhave to serve others to any level for getting done their work.To be continued ....regards,Lalit.

[Guest guest]

Dear Lalit Sir,

 

A very interesting article.

 

Thanks and Regards,

saurabh

"Kuchh Sapanon Ke Mar Jaane Se, Jeevan Nahin Maraa Karataa Hai"

 

 

 

--- On Thu, 2/10/08, vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

vattem krishnan <bursar_99Re: [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Positive Side of Debilated PlanetsVedic Astrologyandhealing Date: Thursday, 2 October, 2008, 11:20 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Lalit,

good u have brought out golden verses but then condemnation of Indians by saying about something about balsts and inaction.India if you see(even horscopically) has been put to lots of stresses and this time in gochara you know also waht is causing stress to our country.

Who can be abused for 200 deaths in jodhpur or Naina Devi.Let's pray that these unfortunate incidents are forbidden and only prayers can help us to come out of these helpless situations

vrkrishnan --- On Thu, 10/2/08, litsol <litsol > wrote:

litsol <litsol >[Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Positive Side of Debilated PlanetsVedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.comThursday, October 2, 2008, 5:49 AM

 

 

Dear Group and Elders,since inception of the vedic astrology, seems, no organized effort isdone to check the debilated planets minutely, to describe the psyche ofthe person, his prorities in life, his actions and thoughts towardsothers and other's actions and thoughts towards him.I sought members contribution which seems very difficult for them to do,coz they are great evolved Indians, just look at how'z ur India, Youhave handed over it's control to stupids and cowards, otherwise, whysuch a huge inaction for series of bomb blasts.I have learnt walking alone , unfazed and confident while doing goodfor you, A study of Jyotish is no way going to help me alone in myindividual life, I m making effort for everybody.Late Sri Seetaram Jha who collected scattered BPHS's verses from somany places has quoted some shlokas from Mansagri in which positive sideof debilated planets given, I

m quoting them here and w'd discuss themdepending on my convenience.A debilitated planet creates a vacuum in one's life, he misses thesignifications of debilitated planet and then does huge effort to fillthe vacuum, either with positive ways or with negative ways, depends onLagna, Moon, Dushikya -3rd, Turya- 4'th , Matisthana - 5'th,Tapasthan -9'th and Karmasthan - 10'thSun : !! Nisthur Dant Vadanah SamGatra Sthul Janghkar Padah,StreeVinirVadit Chitto !!"Nisthur" means lack of sensitivity, thick thighs and worries on accountof women, well placed Sun normaly makes one respectful towards womens.Debilayed Sun instigates one to do activities against the mass andpublic property, he is said to be "KaliManah" and "PaapkarmaRatih" .Moon : !! Nrityak Vadak Jalpak DhurtaJanascha Sangatiha Sahasa, KumatihSanshya Nirato !!Interest in dance, music and arts, water games but one also gets

cunningfriends to get cheated occasionally, thus he has Krishmana - kumati(sad and bad mind) and Sanshaya (doubts).Mars : !!Lakshmi (next word is not clear to me) Sthir Vibhao BudhiManGunascha, Ratricharo Chauro Dushtatma !!stable wealth, clever and intelligent coz, well placed mars makes onestraightforward, he doesnt allow one to think in various directions butwhen in debility this straightforwardness is reduced and manipulativemind emerges within the native, his intelligence improves but if lagnaand moon and trikonas are not afflicted, manipulative mind will take theform of fine creativity, however, one has to live in other's house andsometimes in a different place then his own country, His anger will beslow and lasting, he will not express that rather will begin detestingand still keeping relation with cause of the anger, he has "deenata andshamita" that means he feels inferior and

remain cool before riches andpeople of substance.Merc : !! Subha Sumati Urvar Yutiha SubhSheela Bhartri VachanAnumudita, Santati Putra Viheeno !!Good quality spouse who follows native's wishes but lack of happiness ofprogeny.Jup : !! Divya StreeVarKanchan PushpaFal prakar Pujitah Purushaha,Parakarm Karo narah SmarViheen Bhartri DeshantaraGo, BhayaRosha Bhak NaJanaMane Na Manorthaaha !!The native will have spoouse with divine quality and many other goodtreatment with respect but people dont get authority, wont have sexualactivism and will have to roam places to places because they dont getclose friends and true support and their desires are not fulfilled, theyhave to serve others to any level for getting done their work.To be continued

.....regards,Lalit.

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Krishnan Sir,

 

When serial bomb blasts happened in 2006 in Mumbai, A beautiful mail

circulated stating within 2 hours Mumbai got normal, tons of milk ,

bread and hundreds of men thronged to donate blood, that mail received a

great appreciation , but, I found, same mail doesn't say a single word

about " ACTION " , why ?

 

I asked in our then group, Where is action against terrorism in that

mail, I was riduculed by intellectuals in the group, I dont see same

action in indian blood. Planets transit over entire earth but USA

responded to terror in it's very house, we are a coward country, we even

dont respond to bloody naxalites, why as a nation we are like that, coz,

our citizen pretend to behave as highly evolved so it's easy for them to

turn down responsibility and to uphold the truth.

 

I feel bad when I see stupid inactive non responsive intellectuality.

 

Same kind of reflections are found among group members, they rush to

share when everything is cool, cozy and green and in their

individualistic interest, many w'd have debilitated planets and many w'd

have onserved how it affects but they hardly w'd come to share, As long

as we remain like this, No improvement is going to register in any

subject, research needs data for that they have no interest.

 

regards,

Lalit

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , vattem krishnan

<bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Dear Lalit,

> good u have brought out golden verses but then condemnation of Indians

by saying about something about balsts and inaction.India if you

see(even horscopically) has been put to lots of stresses and this time

in gochara you know also waht is causing stress to our country.

> Who can be abused for 200 deaths in jodhpur or Naina Devi.Let's pray

that these unfortunate incidents are forbidden and only prayers can help

us to come out of these helpless situations

> vrkrishnan

>

> --- On Thu, 10/2/08, litsol litsol wrote:

>

> litsol litsol

> [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Positive Side of Debilated Planets

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing

> Thursday, October 2, 2008, 5:49 AM

>

Dear Group and Elders,

>

> since inception of the vedic astrology, seems, no organized effort is

> done to check the debilated planets minutely, to describe the psyche

of

> the person, his prorities in life, his actions and thoughts towards

> others and other's actions and thoughts towards him.

>

> I sought members contribution which seems very difficult for them to

do,

> coz they are great evolved Indians, just look at how'z ur India, You

> have handed over it's control to stupids and cowards, otherwise, why

> such a huge inaction for series of bomb blasts.

>

> I have learnt walking alone , unfazed and confident while doing good

> for you, A study of Jyotish is no way going to help me alone in my

> individual life, I m making effort for everybody.

>

> Late Sri Seetaram Jha who collected scattered BPHS's verses from so

> many places has quoted some shlokas from Mansagri in which positive

side

> of debilated planets given, I m quoting them here and w'd discuss them

> depending on my convenience.

>

> A debilitated planet creates a vacuum in one's life, he misses the

> significations of debilitated planet and then does huge effort to fill

> the vacuum, either with positive ways or with negative ways, depends

on

> Lagna, Moon, Dushikya -3rd, Turya- 4'th , Matisthana - 5'th,Tapasthan

-

> 9'th and Karmasthan - 10'th

>

> Sun : !! Nisthur Dant Vadanah SamGatra Sthul Janghkar Padah,

> StreeVinirVadit Chitto !!

>

> " Nisthur " means lack of sensitivity, thick thighs and worries on

account

> of women, well placed Sun normaly makes one respectful towards womens.

> Debilayed Sun instigates one to do activities against the mass and

> public property, he is said to be " KaliManah " and " PaapkarmaRatih " .

>

> Moon : !! Nrityak Vadak Jalpak DhurtaJanascha Sangatiha Sahasa,

Kumatih

> Sanshya Nirato !!

>

> Interest in dance, music and arts, water games but one also gets

cunning

> friends to get cheated occasionally, thus he has Krishmana - kumati

> (sad and bad mind) and Sanshaya (doubts).

>

> Mars : !!Lakshmi (next word is not clear to me) Sthir Vibhao BudhiMan

> Gunascha, Ratricharo Chauro Dushtatma !!

>

> stable wealth, clever and intelligent coz, well placed mars makes one

> straightforward, he doesnt allow one to think in various directions

but

> when in debility this straightforwardness is reduced and manipulative

> mind emerges within the native, his intelligence improves but if lagna

> and moon and trikonas are not afflicted, manipulative mind will take

the

> form of fine creativity, however, one has to live in other's house and

> sometimes in a different place then his own country, His anger will be

> slow and lasting, he will not express that rather will begin detesting

> and still keeping relation with cause of the anger, he has " deenata

and

> shamita " that means he feels inferior and remain cool before riches

and

> people of substance.

>

> Merc : !! Subha Sumati Urvar Yutiha SubhSheela Bhartri Vachan

> Anumudita, Santati Putra Viheeno !!

>

> Good quality spouse who follows native's wishes but lack of happiness

of

> progeny.

>

> Jup : !! Divya StreeVarKanchan PushpaFal prakar Pujitah Purushaha,

> Parakarm Karo narah SmarViheen Bhartri DeshantaraGo, BhayaRosha Bhak

Na

> JanaMane Na Manorthaaha !!

>

> The native will have spoouse with divine quality and many other good

> treatment with respect but people dont get authority, wont have sexual

> activism and will have to roam places to places because they dont get

> close friends and true support and their desires are not fulfilled,

they

> have to serve others to any level for getting done their work.

>

> To be continued ....

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Lalit ji,

Views differ and ways to express differ .Emotionsalso vary from one stae of livelihood to other.In case of Indians we know we that we r growing and the need also to grow.For us there is vast difference between haves and havenots.If the talk in groups is about haves,we need also to take have nots.

I was victim of riots in 2006 in Mumbai at that time.Now also I have my livelihood connected with terror stricken states.

If terrorism is a way of livelihood like any other forms of livelihood like thefts,prostitution and all othe forms of vices,it is difficult to hit on some body's stomacj\he easily.

Brig Moahn in in 1984 in riots was shocked how a state lke punjab could suffer.In west Bengal.orissa and Andhra along with MP have other forms of violence.Need understanding and mellow down our ciculatory system.

our religious preservance also matters.Might be lalit ji we need to relearn our lessons.As Gandhiji's non violence methods ceased to be useless.we may go for stick to stick.I am sure the day is not far off when your desperation will be no more >hope whether good or bad this country is also equipped with Nuclear deal for progress or otherwise.But let's understand this nation needs more litteracy and this ambition when fulfilled we need put extra efforts to deal terrorosts.In the last 9/11 has taught human life is not precious.

vrkrishnan--- On Fri, 10/3/08, litsol <litsol wrote:

litsol <litsol[Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: Positive Side of Debilated PlanetsVedic Astrologyandhealing Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 11:54 AM

 

 

Krishnan Sir,When serial bomb blasts happened in 2006 in Mumbai, A beautiful mailcirculated stating within 2 hours Mumbai got normal, tons of milk ,bread and hundreds of men thronged to donate blood, that mail received agreat appreciation , but, I found, same mail doesn't say a single wordabout "ACTION", why ?I asked in our then group, Where is action against terrorism in thatmail, I was riduculed by intellectuals in the group, I dont see sameaction in indian blood. Planets transit over entire earth but USAresponded to terror in it's very house, we are a coward country, we evendont respond to bloody naxalites, why as a nation we are like that, coz,our citizen pretend to behave as highly evolved so it's easy for them toturn down responsibility and to uphold the truth.I feel bad when I see stupid inactive non responsive intellectuality.Same kind of reflections are found among

group members, they rush toshare when everything is cool, cozy and green and in theirindividualistic interest, many w'd have debilitated planets and many w'dhave onserved how it affects but they hardly w'd come to share, As longas we remain like this, No improvement is going to register in anysubject, research needs data for that they have no interest.regards,LalitVedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, vattem krishnan<bursar_99@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Lalit,> good u have brought out golden verses but then condemnation of Indiansby saying about something about balsts and inaction.India if yousee(even horscopically) has been put to lots of stresses and this timein gochara you know also waht is causing stress to our country.> Who can be abused for 200 deaths in jodhpur

or Naina Devi.Let's praythat these unfortunate incidents are forbidden and only prayers can helpus to come out of these helpless situations> vrkrishnan>> --- On Thu, 10/2/08, litsol litsol wrote:>> litsol litsol [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Positive Side of Debilated Planets> Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com> Thursday, October 2, 2008, 5:49 AM>>>>>>>> Dear Group and Elders,>> since inception of the vedic astrology, seems, no organized effort is> done to check the debilated planets minutely, to describe the psycheof> the person, his prorities in life, his actions and thoughts towards> others and other's actions and thoughts towards him.>> I sought

members contribution which seems very difficult for them todo,> coz they are great evolved Indians, just look at how'z ur India, You> have handed over it's control to stupids and cowards, otherwise, why> such a huge inaction for series of bomb blasts.>> I have learnt walking alone , unfazed and confident while doing good> for you, A study of Jyotish is no way going to help me alone in my> individual life, I m making effort for everybody.>> Late Sri Seetaram Jha who collected scattered BPHS's verses from so> many places has quoted some shlokas from Mansagri in which positiveside> of debilated planets given, I m quoting them here and w'd discuss them> depending on my convenience.>> A debilitated planet creates a vacuum in one's life, he misses the> significations of debilitated planet and then does huge effort to fill> the vacuum, either

with positive ways or with negative ways, dependson> Lagna, Moon, Dushikya -3rd, Turya- 4'th , Matisthana - 5'th,Tapasthan-> 9'th and Karmasthan - 10'th>> Sun : !! Nisthur Dant Vadanah SamGatra Sthul Janghkar Padah,> StreeVinirVadit Chitto !!>> "Nisthur" means lack of sensitivity, thick thighs and worries onaccount> of women, well placed Sun normaly makes one respectful towards womens.> Debilayed Sun instigates one to do activities against the mass and> public property, he is said to be "KaliManah" and "PaapkarmaRatih" .>> Moon : !! Nrityak Vadak Jalpak DhurtaJanascha Sangatiha Sahasa,Kumatih> Sanshya Nirato !!>> Interest in dance, music and arts, water games but one also getscunning> friends to get cheated occasionally, thus he has Krishmana - kumati> (sad and bad mind) and Sanshaya (doubts).>> Mars :

!!Lakshmi (next word is not clear to me) Sthir Vibhao BudhiMan> Gunascha, Ratricharo Chauro Dushtatma !!>> stable wealth, clever and intelligent coz, well placed mars makes one> straightforward, he doesnt allow one to think in various directionsbut> when in debility this straightforwardness is reduced and manipulative> mind emerges within the native, his intelligence improves but if lagna> and moon and trikonas are not afflicted, manipulative mind will takethe> form of fine creativity, however, one has to live in other's house and> sometimes in a different place then his own country, His anger will be> slow and lasting, he will not express that rather will begin detesting> and still keeping relation with cause of the anger, he has "deenataand> shamita" that means he feels inferior and remain cool before richesand> people of

substance.>> Merc : !! Subha Sumati Urvar Yutiha SubhSheela Bhartri Vachan> Anumudita, Santati Putra Viheeno !!>> Good quality spouse who follows native's wishes but lack of happinessof> progeny.>> Jup : !! Divya StreeVarKanchan PushpaFal prakar Pujitah Purushaha,> Parakarm Karo narah SmarViheen Bhartri DeshantaraGo, BhayaRosha BhakNa> JanaMane Na Manorthaaha !!>> The native will have spoouse with divine quality and many other good> treatment with respect but people dont get authority, wont have sexual> activism and will have to roam places to places because they dont get> close friends and true support and their desires are not fulfilled,they> have to serve others to any level for getting done their work.>> To be continued ....>> regards,>

Lalit.>

[Guest guest]

Hi Krishnan Sir,

I m comfortable with 'Lalit' only, w'd request to not to add a heavy 'Ji', I got ur vision for india in this line of urs - "let's understand this nation needs more litteracy and this ambition when fulfilled we need put extra efforts to deal terrorists"

Spreading litteracy is a little long term process and another is immediate need, but, we cant ignore anything, we have to teach our kids to think independantly, we have to tell them to be brave, we have to give the required free space so that they can learn to respect the freedom and act when it's required.

I have prayed the God to give such a kid to me, and he is coming, no, i m untuched single but he is coming and hundreds others are coming, we will have a new generation of very energetic kids to be born in 2009 after Jup moves to Kumbha, Let Saturn aspect Guru in Kumbha.

Today, I met one tarang, and i m happy that still there are girls with a difference, not all are caught up in boy friend mishap since their school days, she is a girl, met to me in a book shop where i just went thoughtlessly, no with a thougth, speaking to self and to my mother divine, if there is a girl who likes reading books then watching movies, is there a girl who understands value of her life and the world around, next moment, i see, a determinant innocent and cute one, with a spark in eyes and i walked along to ask her - "Are you a teacher", answer was, "I do teaching occasionaly, I spend time with one NGO", I said - "So, you are in a software company", and her eyes got stuck on me - "Ohh, yes, I m with TCS".

and then I went to the shelves, where some books on astrology were kept, I have been looking for great Bipin Behari's book - "Solve ur problem astrologicaly", which i didn't find even in publisher's office, but, the only copy of the book was like just waiting for me in this shop, I bought that book, I have become Bipin Behari's fan.

Well, Tarang was still there, selecting books for school kids to whom she teaches, I asked her b'details and got a very interesting horoscope , a solid exchange between lagna and 2nd house. This is how interesting life I have lead, sprituality is the essencial fun ....., I have pooured unknown amount of my spiritual energy to shape the world, there is something that me and my brother P.V Narsimha knows, We will lay down the basis for new india and i m getting youngsters, energetic and talented.

Like happens always, she is running Guru's sukshhma, everybody interesting I met were running Guru under Guru's dasha at least one of - prtiyantar/sukschhma.

 

regards,Lalit.

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:>> Dear Lalit ji,> Views differ and ways to express differ .Emotionsalso vary from one stae of livelihood to other.In case of Indians we know we that we r growing and the need also to grow.For us there is vast difference between haves and havenots.If the talk in groups is about haves,we need also to take have nots.> I was victim of riots in 2006 in Mumbai at that time.Now also I have my livelihood connected with terror stricken states.> If terrorism is a way of livelihood like any other forms of livelihood like thefts,prostitution and all othe forms of vices,it is difficult to hit on some body's stomacj\he easily.> Brig Moahn in in 1984 in riots was shocked how a state lke punjab could suffer.In west Bengal.orissa and Andhra along with MP have other forms of violence.Need understanding and mellow down our ciculatory system.> our religious preservance also matters.Might be lalit ji we need to relearn our lessons.As Gandhiji's non violence methods ceased to be useless.we may go for stick to stick.I am sure the day is not far off when your desperation will be no more >hope whether good or bad this country is also equipped with Nuclear deal for progress or otherwise.But let's understand this nation needs more litteracy and this ambition when fulfilled we need put extra efforts to deal terrorosts.In the last 9/11 has taught human life is not precious.> vrkrishnan> > --- On Fri, 10/3/08, litsol litsol wrote:> > litsol litsol [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: Positive Side of Debilated Planets> Vedic Astrologyandhealing > Friday, October 3, 2008, 11:54 AM> > > > > > > > Krishnan Sir,> > When serial bomb blasts happened in 2006 in Mumbai, A beautiful mail> circulated stating within 2 hours Mumbai got normal, tons of milk ,> bread and hundreds of men thronged to donate blood, that mail received a> great appreciation , but, I found, same mail doesn't say a single word> about "ACTION", why ?> > I asked in our then group, Where is action against terrorism in that> mail, I was riduculed by intellectuals in the group, I dont see same> action in indian blood. Planets transit over entire earth but USA> responded to terror in it's very house, we are a coward country, we even> dont respond to bloody naxalites, why as a nation we are like that, coz,> our citizen pretend to behave as highly evolved so it's easy for them to> turn down responsibility and to uphold the truth.> > I feel bad when I see stupid inactive non responsive intellectuality.> > Same kind of reflections are found among group members, they rush to> share when everything is cool, cozy and green and in their> individualistic interest, many w'd have debilitated planets and many w'd> have onserved how it affects but they hardly w'd come to share, As long> as we remain like this, No improvement is going to register in any> subject, research needs data for that they have no interest.> > regards,> Lalit> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, vattem krishnan> bursar_99@ ..> wrote:> >> > Dear Lalit,> > good u have brought out golden verses but then condemnation of Indians> by saying about something about balsts and inaction.India if you> see(even horscopically) has been put to lots of stresses and this time> in gochara you know also waht is causing stress to our country.> > Who can be abused for 200 deaths in jodhpur or Naina Devi.Let's pray> that these unfortunate incidents are forbidden and only prayers can help> us to come out of these helpless situations> > vrkrishnan> >> > --- On Thu, 10/2/08, litsol litsol@ wrote:> >> > litsol litsol@> > [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Positive Side of Debilated Planets> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com> > Thursday, October 2, 2008, 5:49 AM> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear Group and Elders,> >> > since inception of the vedic astrology, seems, no organized effort is> > done to check the debilated planets minutely, to describe the psyche> of> > the person, his prorities in life, his actions and thoughts towards> > others and other's actions and thoughts towards him.> >> > I sought members contribution which seems very difficult for them to> do,> > coz they are great evolved Indians, just look at how'z ur India, You> > have handed over it's control to stupids and cowards, otherwise, why> > such a huge inaction for series of bomb blasts.> >> > I have learnt walking alone , unfazed and confident while doing good> > for you, A study of Jyotish is no way going to help me alone in my> > individual life, I m making effort for everybody.> >> > Late Sri Seetaram Jha who collected scattered BPHS's verses from so> > many places has quoted some shlokas from Mansagri in which positive> side> > of debilated planets given, I m quoting them here and w'd discuss them> > depending on my convenience.> >> > A debilitated planet creates a vacuum in one's life, he misses the> > significations of debilitated planet and then does huge effort to fill> > the vacuum, either with positive ways or with negative ways, depends> on> > Lagna, Moon, Dushikya -3rd, Turya- 4'th , Matisthana - 5'th,Tapasthan> -> > 9'th and Karmasthan - 10'th> >> > Sun : !! Nisthur Dant Vadanah SamGatra Sthul Janghkar Padah,> > StreeVinirVadit Chitto !!> >> > "Nisthur" means lack of sensitivity, thick thighs and worries on> account> > of women, well placed Sun normaly makes one respectful towards womens.> > Debilayed Sun instigates one to do activities against the mass and> > public property, he is said to be "KaliManah" and "PaapkarmaRatih" .> >> > Moon : !! Nrityak Vadak Jalpak DhurtaJanascha Sangatiha Sahasa,> Kumatih> > Sanshya Nirato !!> >> > Interest in dance, music and arts, water games but one also gets> cunning> > friends to get cheated occasionally, thus he has Krishmana - kumati> > (sad and bad mind) and Sanshaya (doubts).> >> > Mars : !!Lakshmi (next word is not clear to me) Sthir Vibhao BudhiMan> > Gunascha, Ratricharo Chauro Dushtatma !!> >> > stable wealth, clever and intelligent coz, well placed mars makes one> > straightforward, he doesnt allow one to think in various directions> but> > when in debility this straightforwardness is reduced and manipulative> > mind emerges within the native, his intelligence improves but if lagna> > and moon and trikonas are not afflicted, manipulative mind will take> the> > form of fine creativity, however, one has to live in other's house and> > sometimes in a different place then his own country, His anger will be> > slow and lasting, he will not express that rather will begin detesting> > and still keeping relation with cause of the anger, he has "deenata> and> > shamita" that means he feels inferior and remain cool before riches> and> > people of substance.> >> > Merc : !! Subha Sumati Urvar Yutiha SubhSheela Bhartri Vachan> > Anumudita, Santati Putra Viheeno !!> >> > Good quality spouse who follows native's wishes but lack of happiness> of> > progeny.> >> > Jup : !! Divya StreeVarKanchan PushpaFal prakar Pujitah Purushaha,> > Parakarm Karo narah SmarViheen Bhartri DeshantaraGo, BhayaRosha Bhak> Na> > JanaMane Na Manorthaaha !!> >> > The native will have spoouse with divine quality and many other good> > treatment with respect but people dont get authority, wont have sexual> > activism and will have to roam places to places because they dont get> > close friends and true support and their desires are not fulfilled,> they> > have to serve others to any level for getting done their work.> >> > To be continued ....> >> > regards,> > Lalit.> >>

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Dear Lalit Ji,

Any way ji will be there till we find a day like the one Tarang got fortunately in a book shop an encounter with you.i also wait for a day to meet you some where in Delhi at sometime.

Secondly about kids to hope for better tomorrow is always good.These days we have more pronounced intellect element in kids as media aids them.But courage and independence has to be tutored by parents.let's hope for better

The horscope needs some study to come back to you and make any observations

Thanx a lot for your great initiative in promoting jyotish

vrkrishnan --- On Sat, 10/4/08, litsol <litsol wrote:

litsol <litsol[Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: Positive Side of Debilated PlanetsVedic Astrologyandhealing Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 12:21 PM

 

 

 

Hi Krishnan Sir,

I m comfortable with 'Lalit' only, w'd request to not to add a heavy 'Ji', I got ur vision for india in this line of urs - "let's understand this nation needs more litteracy and this ambition when fulfilled we need put extra efforts to deal terrorists"

Spreading litteracy is a little long term process and another is immediate need, but, we cant ignore anything, we have to teach our kids to think independantly, we have to tell them to be brave, we have to give the required free space so that they can learn to respect the freedom and act when it's required.

I have prayed the God to give such a kid to me, and he is coming, no, i m untuched single but he is coming and hundreds others are coming, we will have a new generation of very energetic kids to be born in 2009 after Jup moves to Kumbha, Let Saturn aspect Guru in Kumbha.

Today, I met one tarang, and i m happy that still there are girls with a difference, not all are caught up in boy friend mishap since their school days, she is a girl, met to me in a book shop where i just went thoughtlessly, no with a thougth, speaking to self and to my mother divine, if there is a girl who likes reading books then watching movies, is there a girl who understands value of her life and the world around, next moment, i see, a determinant innocent and cute one, with a spark in eyes and i walked along to ask her - "Are you a teacher", answer was, "I do teaching occasionaly, I spend time with one NGO", I said - "So, you are in a software company", and her eyes got stuck on me - "Ohh, yes, I m with TCS".

and then I went to the shelves, where some books on astrology were kept, I have been looking for great Bipin Behari's book - "Solve ur problem astrologicaly" , which i didn't find even in publisher's office, but, the only copy of the book was like just waiting for me in this shop, I bought that book, I have become Bipin Behari's fan.

Well, Tarang was still there, selecting books for school kids to whom she teaches, I asked her b'details and got a very interesting horoscope , a solid exchange between lagna and 2nd house. This is how interesting life I have lead, sprituality is the essencial fun ....., I have pooured unknown amount of my spiritual energy to shape the world, there is something that me and my brother P.V Narsimha knows, We will lay down the basis for new india and i m getting youngsters, energetic and talented.

Like happens always, she is running Guru's sukshhma, everybody interesting I met were running Guru under Guru's dasha at least one of - prtiyantar/sukschhm a.

 

regards,Lalit.

 

Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, vattem krishnan <bursar_99@.. .> wrote:>> Dear Lalit ji,> Views differ and ways to express differ .Emotionsalso vary from one stae of livelihood to other.In case of Indians we know we that we r growing and the need also to grow.For us there is vast difference between haves and havenots.If the talk in groups is about haves,we need also to take have nots.> I was victim of riots in 2006 in Mumbai at that time.Now also I have my livelihood connected with terror stricken states.> If terrorism is a way of livelihood like any other forms of livelihood like thefts,prostitution and all othe forms of vices,it is difficult to hit on some body's stomacj\he easily.> Brig Moahn in in 1984 in riots was shocked how a state lke punjab could suffer.In west Bengal.orissa and Andhra along with MP have other forms of violence.Need understanding and mellow down our

ciculatory system.> our religious preservance also matters.Might be lalit ji we need to relearn our lessons.As Gandhiji's non violence methods ceased to be useless.we may go for stick to stick.I am sure the day is not far off when your desperation will be no more >hope whether good or bad this country is also equipped with Nuclear deal for progress or otherwise.But let's understand this nation needs more litteracy and this ambition when fulfilled we need put extra efforts to deal terrorosts.In the last 9/11 has taught human life is not precious.> vrkrishnan> > --- On Fri, 10/3/08, litsol litsol wrote:> > litsol litsol [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Re: Positive Side of Debilated Planets> Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com> Friday, October 3, 2008, 11:54 AM> > > > > > > > Krishnan Sir,>

> When serial bomb blasts happened in 2006 in Mumbai, A beautiful mail> circulated stating within 2 hours Mumbai got normal, tons of milk ,> bread and hundreds of men thronged to donate blood, that mail received a> great appreciation , but, I found, same mail doesn't say a single word> about "ACTION", why ?> > I asked in our then group, Where is action against terrorism in that> mail, I was riduculed by intellectuals in the group, I dont see same> action in indian blood. Planets transit over entire earth but USA> responded to terror in it's very house, we are a coward country, we even> dont respond to bloody naxalites, why as a nation we are like that, coz,> our citizen pretend to behave as highly evolved so it's easy for them to> turn down responsibility and to uphold the truth.> > I feel bad when I see stupid inactive non responsive

intellectuality.> > Same kind of reflections are found among group members, they rush to> share when everything is cool, cozy and green and in their> individualistic interest, many w'd have debilitated planets and many w'd> have onserved how it affects but they hardly w'd come to share, As long> as we remain like this, No improvement is going to register in any> subject, research needs data for that they have no interest.> > regards,> Lalit> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, vattem krishnan> bursar_99@ ..> wrote:> >> > Dear Lalit,> > good u have brought out golden verses but then condemnation of Indians> by saying about something about balsts and inaction.India if you> see(even horscopically) has been put to lots of stresses and this time> in gochara you know also waht is causing stress to

our country.> > Who can be abused for 200 deaths in jodhpur or Naina Devi.Let's pray> that these unfortunate incidents are forbidden and only prayers can help> us to come out of these helpless situations> > vrkrishnan> >> > --- On Thu, 10/2/08, litsol litsol@ wrote:> >> > litsol litsol@> > [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Positive Side of Debilated Planets> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com> > Thursday, October 2, 2008, 5:49 AM> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear Group and Elders,> >> > since inception of the vedic astrology, seems, no organized effort is> > done to check the debilated planets minutely, to describe the psyche> of> > the person, his prorities in life, his actions and thoughts

towards> > others and other's actions and thoughts towards him.> >> > I sought members contribution which seems very difficult for them to> do,> > coz they are great evolved Indians, just look at how'z ur India, You> > have handed over it's control to stupids and cowards, otherwise, why> > such a huge inaction for series of bomb blasts.> >> > I have learnt walking alone , unfazed and confident while doing good> > for you, A study of Jyotish is no way going to help me alone in my> > individual life, I m making effort for everybody.> >> > Late Sri Seetaram Jha who collected scattered BPHS's verses from so> > many places has quoted some shlokas from Mansagri in which positive> side> > of debilated planets given, I m quoting them here and w'd discuss them> > depending on my convenience.>

>> > A debilitated planet creates a vacuum in one's life, he misses the> > significations of debilitated planet and then does huge effort to fill> > the vacuum, either with positive ways or with negative ways, depends> on> > Lagna, Moon, Dushikya -3rd, Turya- 4'th , Matisthana - 5'th,Tapasthan> -> > 9'th and Karmasthan - 10'th> >> > Sun : !! Nisthur Dant Vadanah SamGatra Sthul Janghkar Padah,> > StreeVinirVadit Chitto !!> >> > "Nisthur" means lack of sensitivity, thick thighs and worries on> account> > of women, well placed Sun normaly makes one respectful towards womens.> > Debilayed Sun instigates one to do activities against the mass and> > public property, he is said to be "KaliManah" and "PaapkarmaRatih" .> >> > Moon : !! Nrityak Vadak Jalpak DhurtaJanascha Sangatiha

Sahasa,> Kumatih> > Sanshya Nirato !!> >> > Interest in dance, music and arts, water games but one also gets> cunning> > friends to get cheated occasionally, thus he has Krishmana - kumati> > (sad and bad mind) and Sanshaya (doubts).> >> > Mars : !!Lakshmi (next word is not clear to me) Sthir Vibhao BudhiMan> > Gunascha, Ratricharo Chauro Dushtatma !!> >> > stable wealth, clever and intelligent coz, well placed mars makes one> > straightforward, he doesnt allow one to think in various directions> but> > when in debility this straightforwardness is reduced and manipulative> > mind emerges within the native, his intelligence improves but if lagna> > and moon and trikonas are not afflicted, manipulative mind will take> the> > form of fine creativity, however, one has to live in

other's house and> > sometimes in a different place then his own country, His anger will be> > slow and lasting, he will not express that rather will begin detesting> > and still keeping relation with cause of the anger, he has "deenata> and> > shamita" that means he feels inferior and remain cool before riches> and> > people of substance.> >> > Merc : !! Subha Sumati Urvar Yutiha SubhSheela Bhartri Vachan> > Anumudita, Santati Putra Viheeno !!> >> > Good quality spouse who follows native's wishes but lack of happiness> of> > progeny.> >> > Jup : !! Divya StreeVarKanchan PushpaFal prakar Pujitah Purushaha,> > Parakarm Karo narah SmarViheen Bhartri DeshantaraGo, BhayaRosha Bhak> Na> > JanaMane Na Manorthaaha !!> >> > The native will have spoouse with divine

quality and many other good> > treatment with respect but people dont get authority, wont have sexual> > activism and will have to roam places to places because they dont get> > close friends and true support and their desires are not fulfilled,> they> > have to serve others to any level for getting done their work.> >> > To be continued ....> >> > regards,> > Lalit.> >>

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Dear Sir,

Yes, meeting to you in delhi w'd be truly great, I will wait for that day !!

Posting tarang's navamsha , w'd be curious for ur's reading and i think there w'd be some suggestions too

Navamsa

regards,Lalit

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:>> Dear Lalit Ji,> Any way ji will be there till we find a day like the one Tarang got fortunately in a book shop an encounter with you.i also wait for a day to meet you some where in Delhi at sometime.> Secondly about kids to hope for better tomorrow is always good.These days we have more pronounced intellect element in kids as media aids them.But courage and independence has to be tutored by parents.let's hope for better> The horscope needs some study to come back to you and make any observations> Thanx a lot for your great initiative in promoting jyotish> vrkrishnan > > --- On Sat, 10/4/08, litsol litsol wrote:> > litsol litsol [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: Positive Side of Debilated Planets> Vedic Astrologyandhealing > Saturday, October 4, 2008, 12:21 PM> > > > > > > > Hi Krishnan Sir,> I m comfortable with 'Lalit' only, w'd request to not to add a heavy 'Ji', I got ur vision for india in this line of urs - > > "let's understand this nation needs more litteracy and this ambition when fulfilled we need put extra efforts to deal terrorists"> Spreading litteracy is a little long term process and another is immediate need, but, we cant ignore anything, we have to teach our kids to think independantly, we have to tell them to be brave, we have to give the required free space so that they can learn to respect the freedom and act when it's required.> I have prayed the God to give such a kid to me, and he is coming, no, i m untuched single but he is coming and hundreds others are coming, we will have a new generation of very energetic kids to be born in 2009 after Jup moves to Kumbha, Let Saturn aspect Guru in Kumbha.> Today, I met one tarang, and i m happy that still there are girls with a difference, not all are caught up in boy friend mishap since their school days, she is a girl, met to me in a book shop where i just went thoughtlessly, no with a thougth, speaking to self and to my mother divine, if there is a girl who likes reading books then watching movies, is there a girl who understands value of her life and the world around, next moment, i see, a determinant innocent and cute one, with a spark in eyes and i walked along to ask her - "Are you a teacher", answer was, "I do teaching occasionaly, I spend time with one NGO", I said - "So, you are in a software company", and her eyes got stuck on me - "Ohh, yes, I m with TCS".> and then I went to the shelves, where some books on astrology were kept, I have been looking for great Bipin Behari's book - "Solve ur problem astrologicaly" , which i didn't find even in publisher's office, but, the only copy of the book was like just waiting for me in this shop, I bought that book, I have become Bipin Behari's fan.> Well, Tarang was still there, selecting books for school kids to whom she teaches, I asked her b'details and got a very interesting horoscope , a solid exchange between lagna and 2nd house. This is how interesting life I have lead, sprituality is the essencial fun ....., I have pooured unknown amount of my spiritual energy to shape the world, there is something that me and my brother P.V Narsimha knows, We will lay down the basis for new india and i m getting youngsters, energetic and talented.> Like happens always, she is running Guru's sukshhma, everybody interesting I met were running Guru under Guru's dasha at least one of - prtiyantar/sukschhm a.> > regards,> Lalit.> > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, vattem krishnan bursar_99@ .> wrote:> >> > Dear Lalit ji,> > Views differ and ways to express differ .Emotionsalso vary from one stae of livelihood to other.In case of Indians we know we that we r growing and the need also to grow.For us there is vast difference between haves and havenots.If the talk in groups is about haves,we need also to take have nots.> > I was victim of riots in 2006 in Mumbai at that time.Now also I have my livelihood connected with terror stricken states.> > If terrorism is a way of livelihood like any other forms of livelihood like thefts,prostitution and all othe forms of vices,it is difficult to hit on some body's stomacj\he easily.> > Brig Moahn in in 1984 in riots was shocked how a state lke punjab could suffer.In west Bengal.orissa and Andhra along with MP have other forms of violence.Need understanding and mellow down our ciculatory system.> > our religious preservance also matters.Might be lalit ji we need to relearn our lessons.As Gandhiji's non violence methods ceased to be useless.we may go for stick to stick.I am sure the day is not far off when your desperation will be no more >hope whether good or bad this country is also equipped with Nuclear deal for progress or otherwise.But let's understand this nation needs more litteracy and this ambition when fulfilled we need put extra efforts to deal terrorosts.In the last 9/11 has taught human life is not precious.> > vrkrishnan> > > > --- On Fri, 10/3/08, litsol litsol@ wrote:> > > > litsol litsol@> > [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Re: Positive Side of Debilated Planets> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com> > Friday, October 3, 2008, 11:54 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Krishnan Sir,> > > > When serial bomb blasts happened in 2006 in Mumbai, A beautiful mail> > circulated stating within 2 hours Mumbai got normal, tons of milk ,> > bread and hundreds of men thronged to donate blood, that mail received a> > great appreciation , but, I found, same mail doesn't say a single word> > about "ACTION", why ?> > > > I asked in our then group, Where is action against terrorism in that> > mail, I was riduculed by intellectuals in the group, I dont see same> > action in indian blood. Planets transit over entire earth but USA> > responded to terror in it's very house, we are a coward country, we even> > dont respond to bloody naxalites, why as a nation we are like that, coz,> > our citizen pretend to behave as highly evolved so it's easy for them to> > turn down responsibility and to uphold the truth.> > > > I feel bad when I see stupid inactive non responsive intellectuality.> > > > Same kind of reflections are found among group members, they rush to> > share when everything is cool, cozy and green and in their> > individualistic interest, many w'd have debilitated planets and many w'd> > have onserved how it affects but they hardly w'd come to share, As long> > as we remain like this, No improvement is going to register in any> > subject, research needs data for that they have no interest.> > > > regards,> > Lalit> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, vattem krishnan> > bursar_99@ ..> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Lalit,> > > good u have brought out golden verses but then condemnation of Indians> > by saying about something about balsts and inaction.India if you> > see(even horscopically) has been put to lots of stresses and this time> > in gochara you know also waht is causing stress to our country.> > > Who can be abused for 200 deaths in jodhpur or Naina Devi.Let's pray> > that these unfortunate incidents are forbidden and only prayers can help> > us to come out of these helpless situations> > > vrkrishnan> > >> > > --- On Thu, 10/2/08, litsol litsol@ wrote:> > >> > > litsol litsol@> > > [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Positive Side of Debilated Planets> > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com> > > Thursday, October 2, 2008, 5:49 AM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Group and Elders,> > >> > > since inception of the vedic astrology, seems, no organized effort is> > > done to check the debilated planets minutely, to describe the psyche> > of> > > the person, his prorities in life, his actions and thoughts towards> > > others and other's actions and thoughts towards him.> > >> > > I sought members contribution which seems very difficult for them to> > do,> > > coz they are great evolved Indians, just look at how'z ur India, You> > > have handed over it's control to stupids and cowards, otherwise, why> > > such a huge inaction for series of bomb blasts.> > >> > > I have learnt walking alone , unfazed and confident while doing good> > > for you, A study of Jyotish is no way going to help me alone in my> > > individual life, I m making effort for everybody.> > >> > > Late Sri Seetaram Jha who collected scattered BPHS's verses from so> > > many places has quoted some shlokas from Mansagri in which positive> > side> > > of debilated planets given, I m quoting them here and w'd discuss them> > > depending on my convenience.> > >> > > A debilitated planet creates a vacuum in one's life, he misses the> > > significations of debilitated planet and then does huge effort to fill> > > the vacuum, either with positive ways or with negative ways, depends> > on> > > Lagna, Moon, Dushikya -3rd, Turya- 4'th , Matisthana - 5'th,Tapasthan> > -> > > 9'th and Karmasthan - 10'th> > >> > > Sun : !! Nisthur Dant Vadanah SamGatra Sthul Janghkar Padah,> > > StreeVinirVadit Chitto !!> > >> > > "Nisthur" means lack of sensitivity, thick thighs and worries on> > account> > > of women, well placed Sun normaly makes one respectful towards womens.> > > Debilayed Sun instigates one to do activities against the mass and> > > public property, he is said to be "KaliManah" and "PaapkarmaRatih" .> > >> > > Moon : !! Nrityak Vadak Jalpak DhurtaJanascha Sangatiha Sahasa,> > Kumatih> > > Sanshya Nirato !!> > >> > > Interest in dance, music and arts, water games but one also gets> > cunning> > > friends to get cheated occasionally, thus he has Krishmana - kumati> > > (sad and bad mind) and Sanshaya (doubts).> > >> > > Mars : !!Lakshmi (next word is not clear to me) Sthir Vibhao BudhiMan> > > Gunascha, Ratricharo Chauro Dushtatma !!> > >> > > stable wealth, clever and intelligent coz, well placed mars makes one> > > straightforward, he doesnt allow one to think in various directions> > but> > > when in debility this straightforwardness is reduced and manipulative> > > mind emerges within the native, his intelligence improves but if lagna> > > and moon and trikonas are not afflicted, manipulative mind will take> > the> > > form of fine creativity, however, one has to live in other's house and> > > sometimes in a different place then his own country, His anger will be> > > slow and lasting, he will not express that rather will begin detesting> > > and still keeping relation with cause of the anger, he has "deenata> > and> > > shamita" that means he feels inferior and remain cool before riches> > and> > > people of substance.> > >> > > Merc : !! Subha Sumati Urvar Yutiha SubhSheela Bhartri Vachan> > > Anumudita, Santati Putra Viheeno !!> > >> > > Good quality spouse who follows native's wishes but lack of happiness> > of> > > progeny.> > >> > > Jup : !! Divya StreeVarKanchan PushpaFal prakar Pujitah Purushaha,> > > Parakarm Karo narah SmarViheen Bhartri DeshantaraGo, BhayaRosha Bhak> > Na> > > JanaMane Na Manorthaaha !!> > >> > > The native will have spoouse with divine quality and many other good> > > treatment with respect but people dont get authority, wont have sexual> > > activism and will have to roam places to places because they dont get> > > close friends and true support and their desires are not fulfilled,> > they> > > have to serve others to any level for getting done their work.> > >> > > To be continued ....> > >> > > regards,> > > Lalit.> > >> >>

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Dear Lalit ji,

Problem in this kind data is constellations do not mean any rule except phalit jyotish based on houses and palnets

worried also about the girl as 8th and 12th houses are afflicted.Exlated saturn in navamsa if happened to be darakarak,then there is lot of remedial approach.

The girl may have rich family as in laws but whether she will bve able to enjoy the riches/inheritance?

The native has lagna lord in 11th and in privartan in navamsa.Venus exalted venus in navamsaaspected by mangal in 8thwhcih is mangalya sthan for the girl.

In panchamam aspect of sun,and saturn on mars too in Dhanur is a indication of her technical bent along with moon in 10th in exaltation and with jupiter in rahu-ketu axis indicate gainful employementHope tarang will have successful career and enough finances

vrkrishnan--- On Sun, 10/5/08, litsol <litsol wrote:

litsol <litsol[Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: Positive Side of Debilated PlanetsVedic Astrologyandhealing Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 7:12 AM

 

 

 

Dear Sir,

Yes, meeting to you in delhi w'd be truly great, I will wait for that day !!

Posting tarang's navamsha , w'd be curious for ur's reading and i think there w'd be some suggestions too

Navamsa

regards,Lalit

Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, vattem krishnan <bursar_99@.. .> wrote:>> Dear Lalit Ji,> Any way ji will be there till we find a day like the one Tarang got fortunately in a book shop an encounter with you.i also wait for a day to meet you some where in Delhi at sometime.> Secondly about kids to hope for better tomorrow is always good.These days we have more pronounced intellect element in kids as media aids them.But courage and independence has to be tutored by parents.let' s hope for better> The horscope needs some study to come back to you and make any observations> Thanx a lot for your great initiative in promoting jyotish> vrkrishnan > > --- On Sat, 10/4/08, litsol litsol wrote:> > litsol litsol [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Re: Positive Side of Debilated Planets> Vedic Astrologyandhe

aling@ s.com> Saturday, October 4, 2008, 12:21 PM> > > > > > > > Hi Krishnan Sir,> I m comfortable with 'Lalit' only, w'd request to not to add a heavy 'Ji', I got ur vision for india in this line of urs - > > "let's understand this nation needs more litteracy and this ambition when fulfilled we need put extra efforts to deal terrorists"> Spreading litteracy is a little long term process and another is immediate need, but, we cant ignore anything, we have to teach our kids to think independantly, we have to tell them to be brave, we have to give the required free space so that they can learn to respect the freedom and act when it's required.> I have prayed the God to give such a kid to me, and he is coming, no, i m untuched single but he is coming and hundreds others are coming, we will have a new generation of very

energetic kids to be born in 2009 after Jup moves to Kumbha, Let Saturn aspect Guru in Kumbha.> Today, I met one tarang, and i m happy that still there are girls with a difference, not all are caught up in boy friend mishap since their school days, she is a girl, met to me in a book shop where i just went thoughtlessly, no with a thougth, speaking to self and to my mother divine, if there is a girl who likes reading books then watching movies, is there a girl who understands value of her life and the world around, next moment, i see, a determinant innocent and cute one, with a spark in eyes and i walked along to ask her - "Are you a teacher", answer was, "I do teaching occasionaly, I spend time with one NGO", I said - "So, you are in a software company", and her eyes got stuck on me - "Ohh, yes, I m with TCS".> and then I went to the shelves, where some books on astrology were kept, I have been looking for great

Bipin Behari's book - "Solve ur problem astrologicaly" , which i didn't find even in publisher's office, but, the only copy of the book was like just waiting for me in this shop, I bought that book, I have become Bipin Behari's fan.> Well, Tarang was still there, selecting books for school kids to whom she teaches, I asked her b'details and got a very interesting horoscope , a solid exchange between lagna and 2nd house. This is how interesting life I have lead, sprituality is the essencial fun ....., I have pooured unknown amount of my spiritual energy to shape the world, there is something that me and my brother P.V Narsimha knows, We will lay down the basis for new india and i m getting youngsters, energetic and talented.> Like happens always, she is running Guru's sukshhma, everybody interesting I met were running Guru under Guru's dasha at least one of - prtiyantar/sukschhm a.> >

regards,> Lalit.> > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, vattem krishnan bursar_99@ .> wrote:> >> > Dear Lalit ji,> > Views differ and ways to express differ .Emotionsalso vary from one stae of livelihood to other.In case of Indians we know we that we r growing and the need also to grow.For us there is vast difference between haves and havenots.If the talk in groups is about haves,we need also to take have nots.> > I was victim of riots in 2006 in Mumbai at that time.Now also I have my livelihood connected with terror stricken states.> > If terrorism is a way of livelihood like any other forms of livelihood like thefts,prostitution and all othe forms of vices,it is difficult to hit on some body's stomacj\he easily.> > Brig Moahn in in 1984 in riots was shocked how a state lke punjab could suffer.In west Bengal.orissa and Andhra along

with MP have other forms of violence.Need understanding and mellow down our ciculatory system.> > our religious preservance also matters.Might be lalit ji we need to relearn our lessons.As Gandhiji's non violence methods ceased to be useless.we may go for stick to stick.I am sure the day is not far off when your desperation will be no more >hope whether good or bad this country is also equipped with Nuclear deal for progress or otherwise.But let's understand this nation needs more litteracy and this ambition when fulfilled we need put extra efforts to deal terrorosts.In the last 9/11 has taught human life is not precious.> > vrkrishnan> > > > --- On Fri, 10/3/08, litsol litsol@ wrote:> > > > litsol litsol@> > [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Re: Positive Side of Debilated Planets> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com> > Friday,

October 3, 2008, 11:54 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Krishnan Sir,> > > > When serial bomb blasts happened in 2006 in Mumbai, A beautiful mail> > circulated stating within 2 hours Mumbai got normal, tons of milk ,> > bread and hundreds of men thronged to donate blood, that mail received a> > great appreciation , but, I found, same mail doesn't say a single word> > about "ACTION", why ?> > > > I asked in our then group, Where is action against terrorism in that> > mail, I was riduculed by intellectuals in the group, I dont see same> > action in indian blood. Planets transit over entire earth but USA> > responded to terror in it's very house, we are a coward country, we even> > dont respond to bloody naxalites, why as a nation we are like that,

coz,> > our citizen pretend to behave as highly evolved so it's easy for them to> > turn down responsibility and to uphold the truth.> > > > I feel bad when I see stupid inactive non responsive intellectuality.> > > > Same kind of reflections are found among group members, they rush to> > share when everything is cool, cozy and green and in their> > individualistic interest, many w'd have debilitated planets and many w'd> > have onserved how it affects but they hardly w'd come to share, As long> > as we remain like this, No improvement is going to register in any> > subject, research needs data for that they have no interest.> > > > regards,> > Lalit> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, vattem krishnan> > bursar_99@ ..> wrote:> > >> > >

Dear Lalit,> > > good u have brought out golden verses but then condemnation of Indians> > by saying about something about balsts and inaction.India if you> > see(even horscopically) has been put to lots of stresses and this time> > in gochara you know also waht is causing stress to our country.> > > Who can be abused for 200 deaths in jodhpur or Naina Devi.Let's pray> > that these unfortunate incidents are forbidden and only prayers can help> > us to come out of these helpless situations> > > vrkrishnan> > >> > > --- On Thu, 10/2/08, litsol litsol@ wrote:> > >> > > litsol litsol@> > > [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Positive Side of Debilated Planets> > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com> > > Thursday, October 2, 2008, 5:49 AM> >

>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Group and Elders,> > >> > > since inception of the vedic astrology, seems, no organized effort is> > > done to check the debilated planets minutely, to describe the psyche> > of> > > the person, his prorities in life, his actions and thoughts towards> > > others and other's actions and thoughts towards him.> > >> > > I sought members contribution which seems very difficult for them to> > do,> > > coz they are great evolved Indians, just look at how'z ur India, You> > > have handed over it's control to stupids and cowards, otherwise, why> > > such a huge inaction for series of bomb blasts.> > >> > > I have learnt walking alone , unfazed and

confident while doing good> > > for you, A study of Jyotish is no way going to help me alone in my> > > individual life, I m making effort for everybody.> > >> > > Late Sri Seetaram Jha who collected scattered BPHS's verses from so> > > many places has quoted some shlokas from Mansagri in which positive> > side> > > of debilated planets given, I m quoting them here and w'd discuss them> > > depending on my convenience.> > >> > > A debilitated planet creates a vacuum in one's life, he misses the> > > significations of debilitated planet and then does huge effort to fill> > > the vacuum, either with positive ways or with negative ways, depends> > on> > > Lagna, Moon, Dushikya -3rd, Turya- 4'th , Matisthana - 5'th,Tapasthan> > -> > > 9'th and Karmasthan -

10'th> > >> > > Sun : !! Nisthur Dant Vadanah SamGatra Sthul Janghkar Padah,> > > StreeVinirVadit Chitto !!> > >> > > "Nisthur" means lack of sensitivity, thick thighs and worries on> > account> > > of women, well placed Sun normaly makes one respectful towards womens.> > > Debilayed Sun instigates one to do activities against the mass and> > > public property, he is said to be "KaliManah" and "PaapkarmaRatih" .> > >> > > Moon : !! Nrityak Vadak Jalpak DhurtaJanascha Sangatiha Sahasa,> > Kumatih> > > Sanshya Nirato !!> > >> > > Interest in dance, music and arts, water games but one also gets> > cunning> > > friends to get cheated occasionally, thus he has Krishmana - kumati> > > (sad and bad mind) and Sanshaya (doubts).> >

>> > > Mars : !!Lakshmi (next word is not clear to me) Sthir Vibhao BudhiMan> > > Gunascha, Ratricharo Chauro Dushtatma !!> > >> > > stable wealth, clever and intelligent coz, well placed mars makes one> > > straightforward, he doesnt allow one to think in various directions> > but> > > when in debility this straightforwardness is reduced and manipulative> > > mind emerges within the native, his intelligence improves but if lagna> > > and moon and trikonas are not afflicted, manipulative mind will take> > the> > > form of fine creativity, however, one has to live in other's house and> > > sometimes in a different place then his own country, His anger will be> > > slow and lasting, he will not express that rather will begin detesting> > > and still keeping relation with cause of

the anger, he has "deenata> > and> > > shamita" that means he feels inferior and remain cool before riches> > and> > > people of substance.> > >> > > Merc : !! Subha Sumati Urvar Yutiha SubhSheela Bhartri Vachan> > > Anumudita, Santati Putra Viheeno !!> > >> > > Good quality spouse who follows native's wishes but lack of happiness> > of> > > progeny.> > >> > > Jup : !! Divya StreeVarKanchan PushpaFal prakar Pujitah Purushaha,> > > Parakarm Karo narah SmarViheen Bhartri DeshantaraGo, BhayaRosha Bhak> > Na> > > JanaMane Na Manorthaaha !!> > >> > > The native will have spoouse with divine quality and many other good> > > treatment with respect but people dont get authority, wont have sexual> > > activism and will

have to roam places to places because they dont get> > > close friends and true support and their desires are not fulfilled,> > they> > > have to serve others to any level for getting done their work.> > >> > > To be continued ....> > >> > > regards,> > > Lalit.> > >> >>

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Sir,Tarang is just like a kid, I m sorry for forgetting her bdata to post to you, what interesting was for me in this horo placement of planets in Lagna and 7'th like two poles, 4and 5'th lords (Sun+Merc) are in Lagna and 9'th and 10'th lord are in 7'th, and that is Sat, so, what's there a combat between Dhan and Dharma, she was so sweet , I do not wish a trouble to her in her married life, How this 9'th and 10'th lord Saturn will work for her, I said to her that, she will get a husband like Shiva, so, do penance like shakti, waiting for ur views - Birth Date & Time : Sat, 31 May 1986 06:00:00Place of Birth : Dehra Dun,Country : IndiaLatitude : 30 19 N Longitude : 78 2 EPLANETARY POSITIONS DegreeRCRashiNakshatraPLrd/SbDignityStatusASC 25:15:15 Taurus Mrigashi 1 infant Sun 15:23:50 Taurus Rohini 2 Mo/Ju Neutral adolescent Moon 21:25:34 Aquarius Poorva Bhadra 1 Ju/Ju Friend old Mars 28:54:14 Sagittarius Uttara Ashada 1 Su/Ma Great Friend dead Mercury 23:46:12 C Taurus Mrigashi 1 Ma/Ma Great Friend youthful Jupiter 26:16:41 Aquarius Poorva Bhadra 2 Ju/Ke Friend dead Venus 16:16:42 Gemini Aridra 3 Ra/Ve Great Friend adolescent Saturn 12:37:39 R Scorpio Anuradha 3 Sa/Ma Neutral adolescent Rahu 05:38:42 Aries Aswini 2 Ke/Ra Neutral infant Ketu 05:39:08 Libra Chitra 4 Ma/Mo Neutral infant Vedic Astrologyandhealing , vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:>> Dear Lalit ji,> Problem in this kind data is constellations do not mean any rule except phalit jyotish based on houses and palnets> worried also about the girl as 8th and 12th houses are afflicted.Exlated saturn in navamsa if happened to be darakarak,then there is lot of remedial approach.> The girl may have rich family as in laws but whether she will bve able to enjoy the riches/inheritance?> The native has lagna lord in 11th and in privartan in navamsa.Venus exalted venus in navamsaaspected by mangal �in 8thwhcih is mangalya sthan for the girl.> In panchamam aspect of sun,and saturn on mars too in Dhanur is a indication of her technical bent along with moon in 10th in exaltation and with jupiter in rahu-ketu axis indicate gainful employement> Hope tarang will have successful career and enough finances> vrkrishnan> --- On Sun, 10/5/08, litsol litsol wrote:> > litsol litsol [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: Positive Side of Debilated Planets> Vedic Astrologyandhealing > Sunday, October 5, 2008, 7:12 AM> > > > > > > > Dear �Sir,> Yes, meeting to you in delhi w'd be truly great, I will wait for that day !!> Posting tarang's navamsha , w'd be curious for ur's reading and i think there w'd be some suggestions too > Navamsa > > regards,> Lalit> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, vattem krishnan bursar_99@ .> wrote:> >> > Dear Lalit Ji,> > Any way ji will be there till we find a day like the one Tarang got fortunately in a book shop an encounter with you.i also wait for a day to meet you some where in Delhi at sometime.> > Secondly about kids to hope for better tomorrow is always good.These days we have more pronounced intellect element in kids as media aids them.But courage and independence has to be tutored by parents.let' s hope for better> > The horscope needs some study to come back to you and make any observations> > Thanx a lot for your great initiative in promoting jyotish> > vrkrishnan�> > > > --- On Sat, 10/4/08, litsol litsol@ wrote:> > > > litsol litsol@> > [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Re: Positive Side of Debilated Planets> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com> > Saturday, October 4, 2008, 12:21 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Krishnan Sir,> > I m comfortable with 'Lalit' only, w'd request to not to add a heavy 'Ji', I got ur vision for india�in this line of urs -�> > > > �"let's understand this nation needs more litteracy and this ambition when fulfilled we need put extra efforts to deal terrorists"> > Spreading litteracy is a little long term process and another is immediate need, but, we cant ignore anything, we have to teach our kids to think independantly, we have to tell them to be brave, we have to give the required free space so that they can learn to respect the�freedom and act when it's required.> > I have prayed the God to give such a kid to me, and he is coming, no, i m untuched single but he is coming and hundreds others are coming, we will have a new generation of very energetic kids to be born in 2009 after Jup moves to Kumbha, Let Saturn aspect Guru in �Kumbha.> > Today, I met one tarang, and i m happy that still there are girls with a difference, not all are caught up in boy friend mishap since their school days, she is a girl, met to me in a book shop where i just went�thoughtlessly, no with a thougth, speaking to self and to my mother divine,�if�there is a girl who likes reading books then watching movies, is there a girl who understands value of her life�and the world around, next moment, i see, a determinant innocent and cute one, with a spark in eyes and i walked along to ask her - "Are you a teacher", answer was, "I do teaching occasionaly, I spend time with one NGO", I said - "So, you are in a software company", and her eyes got stuck on me - "Ohh, yes, I m with TCS".> > and then I went to the shelves, where some books on astrology were kept, I have been looking for great Bipin Behari's book - "Solve ur problem astrologicaly" , which i didn't find even in publisher's office, but, the only copy of the book was like just waiting for me in this shop, I bought that book, I have become Bipin Behari's fan.> > Well, Tarang was still there, selecting books for school kids to whom she teaches, I asked her b'details� and got a very interesting horoscope , a solid exchange between lagna and 2nd house. This is how interesting life I have lead, sprituality is the essencial� fun ....., I have pooured unknown amount of my spiritual energy to shape the world, there is something that�me and my brother P.V Narsimha�knows, We will lay down the basis �for new india and i m getting youngsters, energetic and talented.> > Like happens always, she is running Guru's sukshhma, everybody interesting I met were running Guru under Guru's dasha at least one of - prtiyantar/sukschhm a.> > > > regards,> > Lalit.> > �> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, vattem krishnan bursar_99@ .> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Lalit ji,> > > Views differ and ways to express differ .Emotionsalso vary from one stae of livelihood to other.In case of Indians we know we that we r growing and the need also to grow.For us there is vast difference between haves and havenots.If the talk in groups is about haves,we need also to take have nots.> > > I was victim of riots in 2006 in Mumbai at that time.Now also I have my livelihood connected with�terror stricken states.> > > If terrorism is a way of livelihood like any other forms of livelihood like thefts,prostitution and all othe forms of vices,it is difficult to hit on some body's stomacj\he easily.> > > Brig Moahn in in 1984 in riots was shocked how a state lke punjab could suffer.In west Bengal.orissa and Andhra along with MP have other forms of violence.Need understanding and mellow down our ciculatory system.> > > our religious preservance also matters.Might be lalit ji we need to relearn our lessons.As Gandhiji's non violence methods ceased to be useless.we may go for stick to stick.I am sure the day is not far off when your desperation will be no more >hope whether good or bad this country is also equipped with Nuclear deal for progress or otherwise.But let's understand this nation needs more litteracy and this ambition when fulfilled we need put extra efforts to deal terrorosts.In the last 9/11 has taught human life is not precious.> > > vrkrishnan> > > > > > --- On Fri, 10/3/08, litsol litsol@ wrote:> > > > > > litsol litsol@> > > [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Re: Positive Side of Debilated Planets> > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com> > > Friday, October 3, 2008, 11:54 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Krishnan Sir,> > > > > > When serial bomb blasts happened in 2006 in Mumbai, A beautiful mail> > > circulated stating within 2 hours Mumbai got normal, tons of milk ,> > > bread and hundreds of men thronged to donate blood, that mail received a> > > great appreciation , but, I found, same mail doesn't say a single word> > > about "ACTION", why ?> > > > > > I asked in our then group, Where is action against terrorism in that> > > mail, I was riduculed by intellectuals in the group, I dont see same> > > action in indian blood. Planets transit over entire earth but USA> > > responded to terror in it's very house, we are a coward country, we even> > > dont respond to bloody naxalites, why as a nation we are like that, coz,> > > our citizen pretend to behave as highly evolved so it's easy for them to> > > turn down responsibility and to uphold the truth.> > > > > > I feel bad when I see stupid inactive non responsive intellectuality.> > > > > > Same kind of reflections are found among group members, they rush to> > > share when everything is cool, cozy and green and in their> > > individualistic interest, many w'd have debilitated planets and many w'd> > > have onserved how it affects but they hardly w'd come to share, As long> > > as we remain like this, No improvement is going to register in any> > > subject, research needs data for that they have no interest.> > > > > > regards,> > > Lalit> > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, vattem krishnan> > > bursar_99@ ..> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Lalit,> > > > good u have brought out golden verses but then condemnation of Indians> > > by saying about something about balsts and inaction.India if you> > > see(even horscopically) has been put to lots of stresses and this time> > > in gochara you know also waht is causing stress to our country.> > > > Who can be abused for 200 deaths in jodhpur or Naina Devi.Let's pray> > > that these unfortunate incidents are forbidden and only prayers can help> > > us to come out of these helpless situations> > > > vrkrishnan> > > >> > > > --- On Thu, 10/2/08, litsol litsol@ wrote:> > > >> > > > litsol litsol@> > > > [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Positive Side of Debilated Planets> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com> > > > Thursday, October 2, 2008, 5:49 AM> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Group and Elders,> > > >> > > > since inception of the vedic astrology, seems, no organized effort is> > > > done to check the debilated planets minutely, to describe the psyche> > > of> > > > the person, his prorities in life, his actions and thoughts towards> > > > others and other's actions and thoughts towards him.> > > >> > > > I sought members contribution which seems very difficult for them to> > > do,> > > > coz they are great evolved Indians, just look at how'z ur India, You> > > > have handed over it's control to stupids and cowards, otherwise, why> > > > such a huge inaction for series of bomb blasts.> > > >> > > > I have learnt walking alone , unfazed and confident while doing good> > > > for you, A study of Jyotish is no way going to help me alone in my> > > > individual life, I m making effort for everybody.> > > >> > > > Late Sri Seetaram Jha who collected scattered BPHS's verses from so> > > > many places has quoted some shlokas from Mansagri in which positive> > > side> > > > of debilated planets given, I m quoting them here and w'd discuss them> > > > depending on my convenience.> > > >> > > > A debilitated planet creates a vacuum in one's life, he misses the> > > > significations of debilitated planet and then does huge effort to fill> > > > the vacuum, either with positive ways or with negative ways, depends> > > on> > > > Lagna, Moon, Dushikya -3rd, Turya- 4'th , Matisthana - 5'th,Tapasthan> > > -> > > > 9'th and Karmasthan - 10'th> > > >> > > > Sun : !! Nisthur Dant Vadanah SamGatra Sthul Janghkar Padah,> > > > StreeVinirVadit Chitto !!> > > >> > > > "Nisthur" means lack of sensitivity, thick thighs and worries on> > > account> > > > of women, well placed Sun normaly makes one respectful towards womens.> > > > Debilayed Sun instigates one to do activities against the mass and> > > > public property, he is said to be "KaliManah" and "PaapkarmaRatih" .> > > >> > > > Moon : !! Nrityak Vadak Jalpak DhurtaJanascha Sangatiha Sahasa,> > > Kumatih> > > > Sanshya Nirato !!> > > >> > > > Interest in dance, music and arts, water games but one also gets> > > cunning> > > > friends to get cheated occasionally, thus he has Krishmana - kumati> > > > (sad and bad mind) and Sanshaya (doubts).> > > >> > > > Mars : !!Lakshmi (next word is not clear to me) Sthir Vibhao BudhiMan> > > > Gunascha, Ratricharo Chauro Dushtatma !!> > > >> > > > stable wealth, clever and intelligent coz, well placed mars makes one> > > > straightforward, he doesnt allow one to think in various directions> > > but> > > > when in debility this straightforwardness is reduced and manipulative> > > > mind emerges within the native, his intelligence improves but if lagna> > > > and moon and trikonas are not afflicted, manipulative mind will take> > > the> > > > form of fine creativity, however, one has to live in other's house and> > > > sometimes in a different place then his own country, His anger will be> > > > slow and lasting, he will not express that rather will begin detesting> > > > and still keeping relation with cause of the anger, he has "deenata> > > and> > > > shamita" that means he feels inferior and remain cool before riches> > > and> > > > people of substance.> > > >> > > > Merc : !! Subha Sumati Urvar Yutiha SubhSheela Bhartri Vachan> > > > Anumudita, Santati Putra Viheeno !!> > > >> > > > Good quality spouse who follows native's wishes but lack of happiness> > > of> > > > progeny.> > > >> > > > Jup : !! Divya StreeVarKanchan PushpaFal prakar Pujitah Purushaha,> > > > Parakarm Karo narah SmarViheen Bhartri DeshantaraGo, BhayaRosha Bhak> > > Na> > > > JanaMane Na Manorthaaha !!> > > >> > > > The native will have spoouse with divine quality and many other good> > > > treatment with respect but people dont get authority, wont have sexual> > > > activism and will have to roam places to places because they dont get> > > > close friends and true support and their desires are not fulfilled,> > > they> > > > have to serve others to any level for getting done their work.> > > >> > > > To be continued ....> > > >> > > > regards,> > > > Lalit.> > > >> > >> >>