Guest guest Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Dear Lalit, Why not read Uttara kalamrita which you yourself projected as giving 10th for father, before you allege that the source of 9th being indicative of father is not being given. You know the source and yet want to not see it. Nehru's autobiography can not serve as the testimony to his love for father as barring Mahatma Gandhi there is hardly a politician in India that has written the truth about themselves. So please do not embark on the "Mythological proportion" of love between Nehru and his Father. Even BPHS does not talk of love from father from 10th house, it gives 9th house for that, even in Sitaram Jha edition. Why not read the results of the 9th bhava in BPHS before you accuse me of not giving any reference to a sage that gives 9th as the bhava for father? Is Kalidasa now no longer the sage as he gives 9th for the father and so too Parashara who talks about father in the chapter on 9th bhava and not the 10th? Chandrashekhar. - litsol Vedic Astrologyandhealing Saturday, October 18, 2008 12:47 PM [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Late Sri Seetaram Jha's opinion on 10'th and Father Resp Chandrashekhar Ji and Group,Nobody giving list of sages who said, 9'th is the father's house, Well, Sri Seetaram Jha's contribution to astrology needs no introduction, In his book - "Phalit Vikas" in the chapter "Dasham Bhava Phalam" he has said following in shloka no 2."Shubham Nivasam Janakah Padaptim Vrishtish tva Avrishtih PitraPakschhJatam"then there is a series of another 28 shlokas to know more about Livelihood and Father.He lucidly says - "Janakah" and "PitraPakschhJatam" i.e. Naive's father's information should be derived from 10'th.We have seen neither Chandrashekhar Ji nor Mr. Pradeep is replying to us why Motilal had no obstacles and how he reached so high in his career, Why he had no differences with Nehru, once they both, tried to project a guesswork becoz they were unaware of Nehru's autobiography in which nehru says he also resigned in 1923-24.I dont see there is any scope for more arguments, I have replied to everything said in favor of truth.Repeating, Nobody gave list of sages who said, 9'th is the father's house.Sri Sitaramm Jha is the person who collected verses from several places and compilied them in the form of BPHS which further translated into English by several people, Sri Chandrashekhar Ji is fully aware of his contributionregards,Lalit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 Dear Sir, You wanted to know Late Sri Seetaram Jha's shloka that i have given to you, you have not expressed on this shloka. So, You are saying Nehru's autiobiography is wrong whereas he himself writes his opinion on relationship he has with his father and gandhi ji in a exclusive chapter. Pls. tell why nehru will write lie, if he wants political mileage, he should take Gandhi Ji's side but he shows dare to speak his mind, he has shown dare to criticize gandhi ji. Worst happens when astrologers try to change the face of truth, like in this case, by stating Nehru's own autobiography is false, perhapse, Nehru was afraid of yr 2008 when his horoscope was to be analyzed, is it ? In the group, all ur predictions failed regarding one's father as u r based on wrong dictums. I have always said - Truth doesnt need any acceptance, if one doesnt accept tuth truth derails him from path of achievements. regards, Lalit Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Chandrashekhar " <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Lalit, > > Why not read Uttara kalamrita which you yourself projected as giving 10th for father, before you allege that the source of 9th being indicative of father is not being given. You know the source and yet want to not see it. > > Nehru's autobiography can not serve as the testimony to his love for father as barring Mahatma Gandhi there is hardly a politician in India that has written the truth about themselves. So please do not embark on the " Mythological proportion " of love between Nehru and his Father. > > Even BPHS does not talk of love from father from 10th house, it gives 9th house for that, even in Sitaram Jha edition. Why not read the results of the 9th bhava in BPHS before you accuse me of not giving any reference to a sage that gives 9th as the bhava for father? Is Kalidasa now no longer the sage as he gives 9th for the father and so too Parashara who talks about father in the chapter on 9th bhava and not the 10th? > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > - > litsol > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > Saturday, October 18, 2008 12:47 PM > [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Late Sri Seetaram Jha's opinion on 10'th and Father > > > Resp Chandrashekhar Ji and Group, > > Nobody giving list of sages who said, 9'th is the father's house, > Well, Sri Seetaram Jha's contribution to astrology needs no > introduction, In his book - " Phalit Vikas " in the chapter " Dasham > Bhava Phalam " he has said following in shloka no 2. > > " Shubham Nivasam Janakah Padaptim Vrishtish tva Avrishtih > PitraPakschhJatam " > > then there is a series of another 28 shlokas to know more about > Livelihood and Father. > > He lucidly says - " Janakah " and " PitraPakschhJatam " i.e. Naive's > father's information should be derived from 10'th. > > We have seen neither Chandrashekhar Ji nor Mr. Pradeep is replying > to us why Motilal had no obstacles and how he reached so high in his > career, Why he had no differences with Nehru, once they both, tried > to project a guesswork becoz they were unaware of Nehru's > autobiography in which nehru says he also resigned in 1923-24. > > I dont see there is any scope for more arguments, I have replied to > everything said in favor of truth. > > Repeating, Nobody gave list of sages who said, 9'th is the father's > house. > > Sri Sitaramm Jha is the person who collected verses from several > places and compilied them in the form of BPHS which further > translated into English by several people, Sri Chandrashekhar Ji is > fully aware of his contribution > > regards, > Lalit > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 Dear Lalit, Read shloka number 39 page 38 Chapter 8 from BPHS Sitaram Jha commentary before you launch into one of your long arguments. This is the chapter that lays down the foundation of what is said later by Parashara. The shloka you gave comes much later. I am sure that being a Sanskrit Scholar of repute you must be knowing what impact it has on the science. If according to you what Nehru said is gospel truth, then so be it. If you think Nehru has bared all that he lived in his autobiography, you are free to your opinion. There are many things in history that are better left untouched. A politician writes what he wants people to think about him and not because it is the gospel truth. Gandhi wrote his autobiography with truth because he never wanted to be a politician and did not become one even after India become independent. Chandrashekhar. - litsol Vedic Astrologyandhealing Sunday, October 19, 2008 1:18 PM [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: Late Sri Seetaram Jha's opinion on 10'th and Father Dear Sir,You wanted to know Late Sri Seetaram Jha's shloka that i have given to you, you have not expressed on this shloka.So, You are saying Nehru's autiobiography is wrong whereas he himself writes his opinion on relationship he has with his father and gandhi ji in a exclusive chapter.Pls. tell why nehru will write lie, if he wants political mileage, he should take Gandhi Ji's side but he shows dare to speak his mind, he has shown dare to criticize gandhi ji.Worst happens when astrologers try to change the face of truth, like in this case, by stating Nehru's own autobiography is false, perhapse, Nehru was afraid of yr 2008 when his horoscope was to be analyzed, is it ?In the group, all ur predictions failed regarding one's father as u r based on wrong dictums.I have always said - Truth doesnt need any acceptance, if one doesnt accept tuth truth derails him from path of achievements.regards,LalitVedic Astrologyandhealing , "Chandrashekhar" <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:>> Dear Lalit,> > Why not read Uttara kalamrita which you yourself projected as giving 10th for father, before you allege that the source of 9th being indicative of father is not being given. You know the source and yet want to not see it.> > Nehru's autobiography can not serve as the testimony to his love for father as barring Mahatma Gandhi there is hardly a politician in India that has written the truth about themselves. So please do not embark on the "Mythological proportion" of love between Nehru and his Father. > > Even BPHS does not talk of love from father from 10th house, it gives 9th house for that, even in Sitaram Jha edition. Why not read the results of the 9th bhava in BPHS before you accuse me of not giving any reference to a sage that gives 9th as the bhava for father? Is Kalidasa now no longer the sage as he gives 9th for the father and so too Parashara who talks about father in the chapter on 9th bhava and not the 10th? > > Chandrashekhar.> > > > - > litsol > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > Saturday, October 18, 2008 12:47 PM> [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Late Sri Seetaram Jha's opinion on 10'th and Father> > > Resp Chandrashekhar Ji and Group,> > Nobody giving list of sages who said, 9'th is the father's house, > Well, Sri Seetaram Jha's contribution to astrology needs no > introduction, In his book - "Phalit Vikas" in the chapter "Dasham > Bhava Phalam" he has said following in shloka no 2.> > "Shubham Nivasam Janakah Padaptim Vrishtish tva Avrishtih > PitraPakschhJatam"> > then there is a series of another 28 shlokas to know more about > Livelihood and Father.> > He lucidly says - "Janakah" and "PitraPakschhJatam" i.e. Naive's > father's information should be derived from 10'th.> > We have seen neither Chandrashekhar Ji nor Mr. Pradeep is replying > to us why Motilal had no obstacles and how he reached so high in his > career, Why he had no differences with Nehru, once they both, tried > to project a guesswork becoz they were unaware of Nehru's > autobiography in which nehru says he also resigned in 1923-24.> > I dont see there is any scope for more arguments, I have replied to > everything said in favor of truth.> > Repeating, Nobody gave list of sages who said, 9'th is the father's > house.> > Sri Sitaramm Jha is the person who collected verses from several > places and compilied them in the form of BPHS which further > translated into English by several people, Sri Chandrashekhar Ji is > fully aware of his contribution> > regards,> Lalit> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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