Difficulties in Spiritual Path and life decisions.

[Guest guest]

Dear All,

 

I have joined here today looking for very sensitive guidance on

my spiritual path. With Rahu-Ketu 7-1 axis, with Libra ascendent

(mercury with Ketu) and Sun in 12th, my life is a constant flow of

lessons, and I am embracing these as I go through life.

 

But in the area of Love, as a Libran these lessons are the most

challenging and up until now the most painful. I have at last fallen

in Love with someone's Soul, over an 8 year period of getting know

this person more and more, and yet I have spritual questions I need

to search answers for in this connection.

 

These answers, I believe will come to realization through the mystery

of God through my practices but I feel it could help me to resolve

more in relative action and decision making in the big swell of heart

and spiritual conflict.

 

Please will a respected guru/teacher consider teaching me more deeply

about aspects of my chart in respect of spiritual progress and

journey toward enlightnment. I wish that as many desicions and

actions I make in life lead to my only true goals of inner

independent happinesss.

 

I will be happy to meet via messenger or if necessary to make all my

questions public. Some issues are painful and I am inclined to

privacy but I would willingly go with what he or she wishes.

 

Thank you to the moderator for accepting my application to join.

 

Best Wishes,

Simon Groves

[Guest guest]

Dear Simon,

 

You have not told us about Saturn and Mar's position in ur horoscope.

 

Group has experienced Sr astrologers except for me, kindly post full

details of ur's horoscope, both lagna and navamsha along with

nakschhtra occupied by planets,

 

I hope they as well as I will do honest and sincere effort to look

into ur life.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

<simon.groves1 wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> I have joined here today looking for very sensitive guidance on

> my spiritual path. With Rahu-Ketu 7-1 axis, with Libra ascendent

> (mercury with Ketu) and Sun in 12th, my life is a constant flow of

> lessons, and I am embracing these as I go through life.

>

> But in the area of Love, as a Libran these lessons are the most

> challenging and up until now the most painful. I have at last

fallen

> in Love with someone's Soul, over an 8 year period of getting know

> this person more and more, and yet I have spritual questions I need

> to search answers for in this connection.

>

> These answers, I believe will come to realization through the

mystery

> of God through my practices but I feel it could help me to resolve

> more in relative action and decision making in the big swell of

heart

> and spiritual conflict.

>

> Please will a respected guru/teacher consider teaching me more

deeply

> about aspects of my chart in respect of spiritual progress and

> journey toward enlightnment. I wish that as many desicions and

> actions I make in life lead to my only true goals of inner

> independent happinesss.

>

> I will be happy to meet via messenger or if necessary to make all

my

> questions public. Some issues are painful and I am inclined to

> privacy but I would willingly go with what he or she wishes.

>

> Thank you to the moderator for accepting my application to join.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Simon Groves

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Lalit, And Sr astrologers,

 

Please find my chart details:

 

Appleton (England, UK) 2W33 53N21

11 October 1967

08:48 (am)

Daylight Savings +1,

 

 

Due to current mental turbulence of planets transiting over natal

Moon's house. I can't, for a little while at least, enter into much

of the philosophical exchange I like. My concerns are practical in

managing karma in the most sensible way for inner growth. Please

help me with your experience, it will be helpful to talk to someone

who is especially interested or experienced in spiritual life in the

charts.

 

Lalit thank you, I will be interested to hear your thoughts and

feelings - my planets are in...

 

Lagna - Chitra

Sun (12th) in Chitra (12th House)

Ketu (Asc) in Chitra (Ascendent)

Mercury (Asc) Swathi

Moon (4th) in Uttarashadha

Mars (2nd) in Jyestha

Saturn (6th) in Uttarabhadrapada

Rahu (7th) in Ashwini

Jupiter (11th) in Magha

Venus (11th) in Magha

 

Although it is not appropriate to discuss my specific relationship

with a lady I mentioned as it is quite a saga of support and deep

friendship... she also has the Ketu ascendent and Rahu in 7th.

 

The difficulty is the love generated by this ongoing story with

her... also I experience deep enhancement of my spiritual devotion

and experience ... she is a Ketu-Rahu -1-7 axis Sagittarius-asc with

a very potent spiritual chart, with Moon having remarkeable Shadbala

points in 7th in Gemini. So such a woman brings my questions of

what will be most helpful in my life in respect of enlightenment

goals and relationships to a most important level.

 

I don't expect to quieten this testing emotional challenge

immediately in respect to the lady, as our love story continues

toward success or failure in a mysterious way always, and it has

developed over 8 years. But I practice proper meditation and just go

with watching my self as best I can... I feel I am making progress

one step at a time.

 

Please forgive the use of so many words, with my Mercury placement I

find it hard to summarize when I talk of 'me'.

 

 

Regards

 

Simon

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

<mishra.lalit wrote:

>

> Dear Simon,

>

> You have not told us about Saturn and Mar's position in ur

horoscope.

>

> Group has experienced Sr astrologers except for me, kindly post

full

> details of ur's horoscope, both lagna and navamsha along with

> nakschhtra occupied by planets,

>

> I hope they as well as I will do honest and sincere effort to look

> into ur life.

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

>

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > I have joined here today looking for very sensitive guidance on

> > my spiritual path. With Rahu-Ketu 7-1 axis, with Libra ascendent

> > (mercury with Ketu) and Sun in 12th, my life is a constant flow

of

> > lessons, and I am embracing these as I go through life.

> >

> > But in the area of Love, as a Libran these lessons are the most

> > challenging and up until now the most painful. I have at last

> fallen

> > in Love with someone's Soul, over an 8 year period of getting

know

> > this person more and more, and yet I have spritual questions I

need

> > to search answers for in this connection.

> >

> > These answers, I believe will come to realization through the

> mystery

> > of God through my practices but I feel it could help me to

resolve

> > more in relative action and decision making in the big swell of

> heart

> > and spiritual conflict.

> >

> > Please will a respected guru/teacher consider teaching me more

> deeply

> > about aspects of my chart in respect of spiritual progress and

> > journey toward enlightnment. I wish that as many desicions and

> > actions I make in life lead to my only true goals of inner

> > independent happinesss.

> >

> > I will be happy to meet via messenger or if necessary to make all

> my

> > questions public. Some issues are painful and I am inclined to

> > privacy but I would willingly go with what he or she wishes.

> >

> > Thank you to the moderator for accepting my application to join.

> >

> > Best Wishes,

> > Simon Groves

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Lalit & anyone who has read this thread,

 

Please forgive my impatience in my life, :-) I understand that the

transits are making my quest for self understanding and teaching

far too urgent.

 

Lalit if you wish to comment it might be fun, but is this about fun

also? I am far too serious I think?!

 

At least I hope I made some people chuckle. I have a lot to learn

about myself yet. Thankfully I was taught something this morning by

a tiny bird in the garden!

 

Best wishes,

Simon Groves

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

<simon.groves1 wrote:

>

> Dear Lalit, And Sr astrologers,

>

> Please find my chart details:

>

> Appleton (England, UK) 2W33 53N21

> 11 October 1967

> 08:48 (am)

> Daylight Savings +1,

>

>

> Due to current mental turbulence of planets transiting over natal

> Moon's house. I can't, for a little while at least, enter into

much

> of the philosophical exchange I like. My concerns are practical in

> managing karma in the most sensible way for inner growth. Please

> help me with your experience, it will be helpful to talk to someone

> who is especially interested or experienced in spiritual life in

the

> charts.

>

> Lalit thank you, I will be interested to hear your thoughts and

> feelings - my planets are in...

>

> Lagna - Chitra

> Sun (12th) in Chitra (12th House)

> Ketu (Asc) in Chitra (Ascendent)

> Mercury (Asc) Swathi

> Moon (4th) in Uttarashadha

> Mars (2nd) in Jyestha

> Saturn (6th) in Uttarabhadrapada

> Rahu (7th) in Ashwini

> Jupiter (11th) in Magha

> Venus (11th) in Magha

>

> Although it is not appropriate to discuss my specific relationship

> with a lady I mentioned as it is quite a saga of support and deep

> friendship... she also has the Ketu ascendent and Rahu in 7th.

>

> The difficulty is the love generated by this ongoing story with

> her... also I experience deep enhancement of my spiritual devotion

> and experience ... she is a Ketu-Rahu -1-7 axis Sagittarius-asc

with

> a very potent spiritual chart, with Moon having remarkeable

Shadbala

> points in 7th in Gemini. So such a woman brings my questions of

> what will be most helpful in my life in respect of enlightenment

> goals and relationships to a most important level.

>

> I don't expect to quieten this testing emotional challenge

> immediately in respect to the lady, as our love story continues

> toward success or failure in a mysterious way always, and it has

> developed over 8 years. But I practice proper meditation and just

go

> with watching my self as best I can... I feel I am making progress

> one step at a time.

>

> Please forgive the use of so many words, with my Mercury placement

I

> find it hard to summarize when I talk of 'me'.

>

>

> Regards

>

> Simon

>

>

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Simon,

> >

> > You have not told us about Saturn and Mar's position in ur

> horoscope.

> >

> > Group has experienced Sr astrologers except for me, kindly post

> full

> > details of ur's horoscope, both lagna and navamsha along with

> > nakschhtra occupied by planets,

> >

> > I hope they as well as I will do honest and sincere effort to

look

> > into ur life.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> >

> >

> > --- In

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > I have joined here today looking for very sensitive guidance on

> > > my spiritual path. With Rahu-Ketu 7-1 axis, with Libra

ascendent

> > > (mercury with Ketu) and Sun in 12th, my life is a constant

flow

> of

> > > lessons, and I am embracing these as I go through life.

> > >

> > > But in the area of Love, as a Libran these lessons are the most

> > > challenging and up until now the most painful. I have at last

> > fallen

> > > in Love with someone's Soul, over an 8 year period of getting

> know

> > > this person more and more, and yet I have spritual questions I

> need

> > > to search answers for in this connection.

> > >

> > > These answers, I believe will come to realization through the

> > mystery

> > > of God through my practices but I feel it could help me to

> resolve

> > > more in relative action and decision making in the big swell of

> > heart

> > > and spiritual conflict.

> > >

> > > Please will a respected guru/teacher consider teaching me more

> > deeply

> > > about aspects of my chart in respect of spiritual progress and

> > > journey toward enlightnment. I wish that as many desicions and

> > > actions I make in life lead to my only true goals of inner

> > > independent happinesss.

> > >

> > > I will be happy to meet via messenger or if necessary to make

all

> > my

> > > questions public. Some issues are painful and I am inclined to

> > > privacy but I would willingly go with what he or she wishes.

> > >

> > > Thank you to the moderator for accepting my application to join.

> > >

> > > Best Wishes,

> > > Simon Groves

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Simon,

 

Pls wait till tomorrow, well, I w'd like to know what's ur current

goal, to get enlightened or to get love or to get both.

 

 

I wish you to get love first and then settle for enlightenment.

 

 

regards,

Lalit

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

<simon.groves1 wrote:

>

> Dear Lalit & anyone who has read this thread,

>

> Please forgive my impatience in my life, :-) I understand that the

> transits are making my quest for self understanding and teaching

> far too urgent.

>

> Lalit if you wish to comment it might be fun, but is this about

fun

> also? I am far too serious I think?!

>

> At least I hope I made some people chuckle. I have a lot to learn

> about myself yet. Thankfully I was taught something this morning

by

> a tiny bird in the garden!

>

> Best wishes,

> Simon Groves

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Lalit, And Sr astrologers,

> >

> > Please find my chart details:

> >

> > Appleton (England, UK) 2W33 53N21

> > 11 October 1967

> > 08:48 (am)

> > Daylight Savings +1,

> >

> >

> > Due to current mental turbulence of planets transiting over natal

> > Moon's house. I can't, for a little while at least, enter into

> much

> > of the philosophical exchange I like. My concerns are practical

in

> > managing karma in the most sensible way for inner growth. Please

> > help me with your experience, it will be helpful to talk to

someone

> > who is especially interested or experienced in spiritual life in

> the

> > charts.

> >

> > Lalit thank you, I will be interested to hear your thoughts and

> > feelings - my planets are in...

> >

> > Lagna - Chitra

> > Sun (12th) in Chitra (12th House)

> > Ketu (Asc) in Chitra (Ascendent)

> > Mercury (Asc) Swathi

> > Moon (4th) in Uttarashadha

> > Mars (2nd) in Jyestha

> > Saturn (6th) in Uttarabhadrapada

> > Rahu (7th) in Ashwini

> > Jupiter (11th) in Magha

> > Venus (11th) in Magha

> >

> > Although it is not appropriate to discuss my specific

relationship

> > with a lady I mentioned as it is quite a saga of support and deep

> > friendship... she also has the Ketu ascendent and Rahu in 7th.

> >

> > The difficulty is the love generated by this ongoing story with

> > her... also I experience deep enhancement of my spiritual

devotion

> > and experience ... she is a Ketu-Rahu -1-7 axis Sagittarius-asc

> with

> > a very potent spiritual chart, with Moon having remarkeable

> Shadbala

> > points in 7th in Gemini. So such a woman brings my questions

of

> > what will be most helpful in my life in respect of enlightenment

> > goals and relationships to a most important level.

> >

> > I don't expect to quieten this testing emotional challenge

> > immediately in respect to the lady, as our love story continues

> > toward success or failure in a mysterious way always, and it has

> > developed over 8 years. But I practice proper meditation and just

> go

> > with watching my self as best I can... I feel I am making

progress

> > one step at a time.

> >

> > Please forgive the use of so many words, with my Mercury

placement

> I

> > find it hard to summarize when I talk of 'me'.

> >

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Simon

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Simon,

> > >

> > > You have not told us about Saturn and Mar's position in ur

> > horoscope.

> > >

> > > Group has experienced Sr astrologers except for me, kindly post

> > full

> > > details of ur's horoscope, both lagna and navamsha along with

> > > nakschhtra occupied by planets,

> > >

> > > I hope they as well as I will do honest and sincere effort to

> look

> > > into ur life.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear All,

> > > >

> > > > I have joined here today looking for very sensitive guidance

on

> > > > my spiritual path. With Rahu-Ketu 7-1 axis, with Libra

> ascendent

> > > > (mercury with Ketu) and Sun in 12th, my life is a constant

> flow

> > of

> > > > lessons, and I am embracing these as I go through life.

> > > >

> > > > But in the area of Love, as a Libran these lessons are the

most

> > > > challenging and up until now the most painful. I have at

last

> > > fallen

> > > > in Love with someone's Soul, over an 8 year period of getting

> > know

> > > > this person more and more, and yet I have spritual questions

I

> > need

> > > > to search answers for in this connection.

> > > >

> > > > These answers, I believe will come to realization through the

> > > mystery

> > > > of God through my practices but I feel it could help me to

> > resolve

> > > > more in relative action and decision making in the big swell

of

> > > heart

> > > > and spiritual conflict.

> > > >

> > > > Please will a respected guru/teacher consider teaching me

more

> > > deeply

> > > > about aspects of my chart in respect of spiritual progress

and

> > > > journey toward enlightnment. I wish that as many desicions

and

> > > > actions I make in life lead to my only true goals of inner

> > > > independent happinesss.

> > > >

> > > > I will be happy to meet via messenger or if necessary to make

> all

> > > my

> > > > questions public. Some issues are painful and I am inclined

to

> > > > privacy but I would willingly go with what he or she wishes.

> > > >

> > > > Thank you to the moderator for accepting my application to

join.

> > > >

> > > > Best Wishes,

> > > > Simon Groves

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Bless you Lalit,

I tell you I never in all my days dreamed a woman could capture a

mans heart the way this lady has, she has broken me when I needed to

break, built me up when I was down, and all with spirit alone, of

course with eyes to melt the heart of my feeling. It is her sight

that takes my breath away and almost absolute modesty and simple Moon

spirit. In her company I am in church with holy water and a font.

I feel her as the ishta Devta I struggle to worship, Maha Durga.

 

I will wait until I hear from you, and thank you for what is your

romantic heart also in wishing I 'get the girl' and then

enlightenment... but isnt that what we all wish when we watch a good

film?

 

It is what I wish also because I honestly did not know that another

human can transform anothers life so deeply inside, bringing me to

face the most beutiful and uncomfortable truths of my journey. And

so in my heart I wish one day to protect her, as her karma is

difficult often and Shani also brings her sparse living, and still

she is holy in respect. I wish to protect her from the lonliness

that she treads as a seeker in an English society where her gifts are

most often seen as " odd " " wierd " etc...

 

So yes I also would like to deserve her one day to be her companion

and helper and learn from her... and yes I hope as I feel that she

would bring me closer to enlightenment as she has already. For 8

years I have loved constantly and only the next antardasha may tell

the next part of our adventure, whether my Mercury (9th Lord) will

bring some stronger spirituality in me that deserves to sit with her

as a companion. She does know how purely I 'see' her and she says

this is profound and I see her heart hoping.

 

ANd she is mature and will wait to see what remians of me when

this 'ilness' has washed through me.

 

 

It must be Venus exalted at present. You can see I am in love, and

for so long deepening more, but the course of my life as has so far

been holds no promises or guarantees, I will just do my practice

daily and see what happens with my deservedness.

 

So my current goal is both... when I feel my ishta Devta near

(occasionally) in spirit the lady I mention also drifts seemlessly in

the vision and then I hope even more as ishta Devata and karaka for

spouse are both Moon.

 

She knows I am facing issues and need, and cant avoid solitude, and

so she has asked for us to not meet until March 10 2009 and see what

we have before us then... it tastes so much of a divine high

romance... I try not to hope and just be in present.

 

Thank you, Your comments will be comforting,

Best wishes,

Simon

 

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

<mishra.lalit wrote:

>

> Dear Simon,

>

> Pls wait till tomorrow, well, I w'd like to know what's ur current

> goal, to get enlightened or to get love or to get both.

>

>

>

> I wish you to get love first and then settle for enlightenment.

>

>

> regards,

> Lalit

>

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Lalit & anyone who has read this thread,

> >

> > Please forgive my impatience in my life, :-) I understand that

the

> > transits are making my quest for self understanding and teaching

> > far too urgent.

> >

> > Lalit if you wish to comment it might be fun, but is this about

> fun

> > also? I am far too serious I think?!

> >

> > At least I hope I made some people chuckle. I have a lot to learn

> > about myself yet. Thankfully I was taught something this

morning

> by

> > a tiny bird in the garden!

> >

> > Best wishes,

> > Simon Groves

> >

> > --- In

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Lalit, And Sr astrologers,

> > >

> > > Please find my chart details:

> > >

> > > Appleton (England, UK) 2W33 53N21

> > > 11 October 1967

> > > 08:48 (am)

> > > Daylight Savings +1,

> > >

> > >

> > > Due to current mental turbulence of planets transiting over

natal

> > > Moon's house. I can't, for a little while at least, enter into

> > much

> > > of the philosophical exchange I like. My concerns are

practical

> in

> > > managing karma in the most sensible way for inner growth.

Please

> > > help me with your experience, it will be helpful to talk to

> someone

> > > who is especially interested or experienced in spiritual life

in

> > the

> > > charts.

> > >

> > > Lalit thank you, I will be interested to hear your thoughts and

> > > feelings - my planets are in...

> > >

> > > Lagna - Chitra

> > > Sun (12th) in Chitra (12th House)

> > > Ketu (Asc) in Chitra (Ascendent)

> > > Mercury (Asc) Swathi

> > > Moon (4th) in Uttarashadha

> > > Mars (2nd) in Jyestha

> > > Saturn (6th) in Uttarabhadrapada

> > > Rahu (7th) in Ashwini

> > > Jupiter (11th) in Magha

> > > Venus (11th) in Magha

> > >

> > > Although it is not appropriate to discuss my specific

> relationship

> > > with a lady I mentioned as it is quite a saga of support and

deep

> > > friendship... she also has the Ketu ascendent and Rahu in 7th.

> > >

> > > The difficulty is the love generated by this ongoing story with

> > > her... also I experience deep enhancement of my spiritual

> devotion

> > > and experience ... she is a Ketu-Rahu -1-7 axis Sagittarius-asc

> > with

> > > a very potent spiritual chart, with Moon having remarkeable

> > Shadbala

> > > points in 7th in Gemini. So such a woman brings my questions

> of

> > > what will be most helpful in my life in respect of

enlightenment

> > > goals and relationships to a most important level.

> > >

> > > I don't expect to quieten this testing emotional challenge

> > > immediately in respect to the lady, as our love story continues

> > > toward success or failure in a mysterious way always, and it

has

> > > developed over 8 years. But I practice proper meditation and

just

> > go

> > > with watching my self as best I can... I feel I am making

> progress

> > > one step at a time.

> > >

> > > Please forgive the use of so many words, with my Mercury

> placement

> > I

> > > find it hard to summarize when I talk of 'me'.

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Simon

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Simon,

> > > >

> > > > You have not told us about Saturn and Mar's position in ur

> > > horoscope.

> > > >

> > > > Group has experienced Sr astrologers except for me, kindly

post

> > > full

> > > > details of ur's horoscope, both lagna and navamsha along with

> > > > nakschhtra occupied by planets,

> > > >

> > > > I hope they as well as I will do honest and sincere effort to

> > look

> > > > into ur life.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lalit.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear All,

> > > > >

> > > > > I have joined here today looking for very sensitive

guidance

> on

> > > > > my spiritual path. With Rahu-Ketu 7-1 axis, with Libra

> > ascendent

> > > > > (mercury with Ketu) and Sun in 12th, my life is a constant

> > flow

> > > of

> > > > > lessons, and I am embracing these as I go through life.

> > > > >

> > > > > But in the area of Love, as a Libran these lessons are the

> most

> > > > > challenging and up until now the most painful. I have at

> last

> > > > fallen

> > > > > in Love with someone's Soul, over an 8 year period of

getting

> > > know

> > > > > this person more and more, and yet I have spritual

questions

> I

> > > need

> > > > > to search answers for in this connection.

> > > > >

> > > > > These answers, I believe will come to realization through

the

> > > > mystery

> > > > > of God through my practices but I feel it could help me to

> > > resolve

> > > > > more in relative action and decision making in the big

swell

> of

> > > > heart

> > > > > and spiritual conflict.

> > > > >

> > > > > Please will a respected guru/teacher consider teaching me

> more

> > > > deeply

> > > > > about aspects of my chart in respect of spiritual progress

> and

> > > > > journey toward enlightnment. I wish that as many desicions

> and

> > > > > actions I make in life lead to my only true goals of inner

> > > > > independent happinesss.

> > > > >

> > > > > I will be happy to meet via messenger or if necessary to

make

> > all

> > > > my

> > > > > questions public. Some issues are painful and I am

inclined

> to

> > > > > privacy but I would willingly go with what he or she wishes.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you to the moderator for accepting my application to

> join.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best Wishes,

> > > > > Simon Groves

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Simon,

 

Love in duality can transform to love in non duality.

She is lucky that there is somebody who loves her this much.

 

In your case, I can suggest you to walk towards the selflessness ,

such a selflessness makes u blissful, gives internal delight when u

perceive in the external world ur emotions are not reciprocal, why

so, coz, that's mere a perception.

 

when u feel delighted with no cause for that, and can see urself in

other beings heart, u become successful in ur love. u should find

urself in other's heart ... !!

 

Right now, You find her in ur heart, this is half of the whole

chemistry.

 

when i was in my twenties, I undergone same phase of life that u r

undsergoing today, I could get God's vision, could speak to God at

his will and sometimes i felt at my will also, could insist to God to

get things as per my wishes ...., I didn't know where that girl was

living and i had no communication with her, was not knowing her cell

no but i wanted to have a glimpse of her, wanted to meet her, i was

meeting, How, I was asking God, where she will come today, and going

to the place echoing within in answers to questions that i was asking

to God, and without any failure i was meeting her.

 

Though, I could see the God, I couldn't generate same love in her

heart ....... i was in deep pain, I was thinking I m in love, no, i

was not, in fact, I was loving my expectations of being close to her,

expectations of her knowing how special she is for me ... etc...

 

True love happens within, no external object is required. make urself

free from expectations, then there is enlightenments and love

togather.

 

but, whatever it is, whatever i m saying to you, I wish the God to

make u happy in love.

 

Will speak astrologically little later.

 

regards,

Lalit

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

<simon.groves1 wrote:

>

> Bless you Lalit,

> I tell you I never in all my days dreamed a woman could capture a

> mans heart the way this lady has, she has broken me when I needed

to

> break, built me up when I was down, and all with spirit alone, of

> course with eyes to melt the heart of my feeling. It is her sight

> that takes my breath away and almost absolute modesty and simple

Moon

> spirit. In her company I am in church with holy water and a font.

> I feel her as the ishta Devta I struggle to worship, Maha Durga.

>

> I will wait until I hear from you, and thank you for what is your

> romantic heart also in wishing I 'get the girl' and then

> enlightenment... but isnt that what we all wish when we watch a

good

> film?

>

> It is what I wish also because I honestly did not know that another

> human can transform anothers life so deeply inside, bringing me to

> face the most beutiful and uncomfortable truths of my journey. And

> so in my heart I wish one day to protect her, as her karma is

> difficult often and Shani also brings her sparse living, and still

> she is holy in respect. I wish to protect her from the lonliness

> that she treads as a seeker in an English society where her gifts

are

> most often seen as " odd " " wierd " etc...

>

> So yes I also would like to deserve her one day to be her companion

> and helper and learn from her... and yes I hope as I feel that she

> would bring me closer to enlightenment as she has already. For 8

> years I have loved constantly and only the next antardasha may tell

> the next part of our adventure, whether my Mercury (9th Lord) will

> bring some stronger spirituality in me that deserves to sit with

her

> as a companion. She does know how purely I 'see' her and she

says

> this is profound and I see her heart hoping.

>

> ANd she is mature and will wait to see what remians of me when

> this 'ilness' has washed through me.

>

>

> It must be Venus exalted at present. You can see I am in love,

and

> for so long deepening more, but the course of my life as has so far

> been holds no promises or guarantees, I will just do my practice

> daily and see what happens with my deservedness.

>

> So my current goal is both... when I feel my ishta Devta near

> (occasionally) in spirit the lady I mention also drifts seemlessly

in

> the vision and then I hope even more as ishta Devata and karaka for

> spouse are both Moon.

>

> She knows I am facing issues and need, and cant avoid solitude,

and

> so she has asked for us to not meet until March 10 2009 and see

what

> we have before us then... it tastes so much of a divine high

> romance... I try not to hope and just be in present.

>

> Thank you, Your comments will be comforting,

> Best wishes,

> Simon

>

>

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Simon,

> >

> > Pls wait till tomorrow, well, I w'd like to know what's ur

current

> > goal, to get enlightened or to get love or to get both.

> >

> >

> >

> > I wish you to get love first and then settle for enlightenment.

> >

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit

> >

> >

> > --- In

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Lalit & anyone who has read this thread,

> > >

> > > Please forgive my impatience in my life, :-) I understand that

> the

> > > transits are making my quest for self understanding and teaching

> > > far too urgent.

> > >

> > > Lalit if you wish to comment it might be fun, but is this

about

> > fun

> > > also? I am far too serious I think?!

> > >

> > > At least I hope I made some people chuckle. I have a lot to

learn

> > > about myself yet. Thankfully I was taught something this

> morning

> > by

> > > a tiny bird in the garden!

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > > Simon Groves

> > >

> > > --- In

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lalit, And Sr astrologers,

> > > >

> > > > Please find my chart details:

> > > >

> > > > Appleton (England, UK) 2W33 53N21

> > > > 11 October 1967

> > > > 08:48 (am)

> > > > Daylight Savings +1,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Due to current mental turbulence of planets transiting over

> natal

> > > > Moon's house. I can't, for a little while at least, enter

into

> > > much

> > > > of the philosophical exchange I like. My concerns are

> practical

> > in

> > > > managing karma in the most sensible way for inner growth.

> Please

> > > > help me with your experience, it will be helpful to talk to

> > someone

> > > > who is especially interested or experienced in spiritual life

> in

> > > the

> > > > charts.

> > > >

> > > > Lalit thank you, I will be interested to hear your thoughts

and

> > > > feelings - my planets are in...

> > > >

> > > > Lagna - Chitra

> > > > Sun (12th) in Chitra (12th House)

> > > > Ketu (Asc) in Chitra (Ascendent)

> > > > Mercury (Asc) Swathi

> > > > Moon (4th) in Uttarashadha

> > > > Mars (2nd) in Jyestha

> > > > Saturn (6th) in Uttarabhadrapada

> > > > Rahu (7th) in Ashwini

> > > > Jupiter (11th) in Magha

> > > > Venus (11th) in Magha

> > > >

> > > > Although it is not appropriate to discuss my specific

> > relationship

> > > > with a lady I mentioned as it is quite a saga of support and

> deep

> > > > friendship... she also has the Ketu ascendent and Rahu in 7th.

> > > >

> > > > The difficulty is the love generated by this ongoing story

with

> > > > her... also I experience deep enhancement of my spiritual

> > devotion

> > > > and experience ... she is a Ketu-Rahu -1-7 axis Sagittarius-

asc

> > > with

> > > > a very potent spiritual chart, with Moon having remarkeable

> > > Shadbala

> > > > points in 7th in Gemini. So such a woman brings my

questions

> > of

> > > > what will be most helpful in my life in respect of

> enlightenment

> > > > goals and relationships to a most important level.

> > > >

> > > > I don't expect to quieten this testing emotional challenge

> > > > immediately in respect to the lady, as our love story

continues

> > > > toward success or failure in a mysterious way always, and it

> has

> > > > developed over 8 years. But I practice proper meditation and

> just

> > > go

> > > > with watching my self as best I can... I feel I am making

> > progress

> > > > one step at a time.

> > > >

> > > > Please forgive the use of so many words, with my Mercury

> > placement

> > > I

> > > > find it hard to summarize when I talk of 'me'.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Simon

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > >

> > > > > You have not told us about Saturn and Mar's position in ur

> > > > horoscope.

> > > > >

> > > > > Group has experienced Sr astrologers except for me, kindly

> post

> > > > full

> > > > > details of ur's horoscope, both lagna and navamsha along

with

> > > > > nakschhtra occupied by planets,

> > > > >

> > > > > I hope they as well as I will do honest and sincere effort

to

> > > look

> > > > > into ur life.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Lalit.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have joined here today looking for very sensitive

> guidance

> > on

> > > > > > my spiritual path. With Rahu-Ketu 7-1 axis, with Libra

> > > ascendent

> > > > > > (mercury with Ketu) and Sun in 12th, my life is a

constant

> > > flow

> > > > of

> > > > > > lessons, and I am embracing these as I go through life.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But in the area of Love, as a Libran these lessons are

the

> > most

> > > > > > challenging and up until now the most painful. I have at

> > last

> > > > > fallen

> > > > > > in Love with someone's Soul, over an 8 year period of

> getting

> > > > know

> > > > > > this person more and more, and yet I have spritual

> questions

> > I

> > > > need

> > > > > > to search answers for in this connection.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > These answers, I believe will come to realization through

> the

> > > > > mystery

> > > > > > of God through my practices but I feel it could help me

to

> > > > resolve

> > > > > > more in relative action and decision making in the big

> swell

> > of

> > > > > heart

> > > > > > and spiritual conflict.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please will a respected guru/teacher consider teaching me

> > more

> > > > > deeply

> > > > > > about aspects of my chart in respect of spiritual

progress

> > and

> > > > > > journey toward enlightnment. I wish that as many

desicions

> > and

> > > > > > actions I make in life lead to my only true goals of

inner

> > > > > > independent happinesss.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I will be happy to meet via messenger or if necessary to

> make

> > > all

> > > > > my

> > > > > > questions public. Some issues are painful and I am

> inclined

> > to

> > > > > > privacy but I would willingly go with what he or she

wishes.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank you to the moderator for accepting my application

to

> > join.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best Wishes,

> > > > > > Simon Groves

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Lalit,

God bless your dear heart... I was unsure of exactly where you were

coming from... All I knew is that there was mystery behind your

message.. and only that it came from a pure heart's place...

 

An of course you can imagine why I foolishly ask you " did you get the

girl lalit? " but that is just an interest in a film... my weakness.

 

Outside this Lalit.. in your message today... to bear your Soul in

this message is touching to my painul heart... and I aslo have an

astounding TM teacher who is able to " say " go way and I love you my

son, metaphorically in the same sentence... I am blessed to receive

friends like you... and this recluse I am... who hides so much in his

room would welcome you with tea or water and whatevr you like a good

wholesome meal on any day of the week...

 

So take that please as an open invitation... I live at presnt with my

parents... and when I tell them what you shared... they will welcome

you at anytime I know...

 

Outside of this I will be very happy to specifically hear you thought

and feelings on my chart.

 

Thank you for understanding how head functions and heart.. I am

waiting and waiting :-)... but I feel the day is coming relively soon

gainst the backdrop of my life.

 

Natal Mars has too many words,

so with Moon in transit there,

Thank you,

I must go and lie down, because you have seen my whole story... thank

you,

 

I feel like saying in this moment, just to my personal taste....

 

Jai Guru Dev

Simon

 

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

<mishra.lalit wrote:

>

> Dear Simon,

>

> Love in duality can transform to love in non duality.

> She is lucky that there is somebody who loves her this much.

>

> In your case, I can suggest you to walk towards the selflessness ,

> such a selflessness makes u blissful, gives internal delight when u

> perceive in the external world ur emotions are not reciprocal, why

> so, coz, that's mere a perception.

>

> when u feel delighted with no cause for that, and can see urself in

> other beings heart, u become successful in ur love. u should find

> urself in other's heart ... !!

>

> Right now, You find her in ur heart, this is half of the whole

> chemistry.

>

> when i was in my twenties, I undergone same phase of life that u r

> undsergoing today, I could get God's vision, could speak to God at

> his will and sometimes i felt at my will also, could insist to God

to

> get things as per my wishes ...., I didn't know where that girl was

> living and i had no communication with her, was not knowing her

cell

> no but i wanted to have a glimpse of her, wanted to meet her, i was

> meeting, How, I was asking God, where she will come today, and

going

> to the place echoing within in answers to questions that i was

asking

> to God, and without any failure i was meeting her.

>

> Though, I could see the God, I couldn't generate same love in her

> heart ....... i was in deep pain, I was thinking I m in love, no, i

> was not, in fact, I was loving my expectations of being close to

her,

> expectations of her knowing how special she is for me ... etc...

>

> True love happens within, no external object is required. make

urself

> free from expectations, then there is enlightenments and love

> togather.

>

> but, whatever it is, whatever i m saying to you, I wish the God to

> make u happy in love.

>

> Will speak astrologically little later.

>

> regards,

> Lalit

>

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> >

> > Bless you Lalit,

> > I tell you I never in all my days dreamed a woman could capture a

> > mans heart the way this lady has, she has broken me when I needed

> to

> > break, built me up when I was down, and all with spirit alone, of

> > course with eyes to melt the heart of my feeling. It is her

sight

> > that takes my breath away and almost absolute modesty and simple

> Moon

> > spirit. In her company I am in church with holy water and a

font.

> > I feel her as the ishta Devta I struggle to worship, Maha Durga.

> >

> > I will wait until I hear from you, and thank you for what is your

> > romantic heart also in wishing I 'get the girl' and then

> > enlightenment... but isnt that what we all wish when we watch a

> good

> > film?

> >

> > It is what I wish also because I honestly did not know that

another

> > human can transform anothers life so deeply inside, bringing me

to

> > face the most beutiful and uncomfortable truths of my journey.

And

> > so in my heart I wish one day to protect her, as her karma is

> > difficult often and Shani also brings her sparse living, and

still

> > she is holy in respect. I wish to protect her from the lonliness

> > that she treads as a seeker in an English society where her gifts

> are

> > most often seen as " odd " " wierd " etc...

> >

> > So yes I also would like to deserve her one day to be her

companion

> > and helper and learn from her... and yes I hope as I feel that

she

> > would bring me closer to enlightenment as she has already. For

8

> > years I have loved constantly and only the next antardasha may

tell

> > the next part of our adventure, whether my Mercury (9th Lord)

will

> > bring some stronger spirituality in me that deserves to sit with

> her

> > as a companion. She does know how purely I 'see' her and she

> says

> > this is profound and I see her heart hoping.

> >

> > ANd she is mature and will wait to see what remians of me when

> > this 'ilness' has washed through me.

> >

> >

> > It must be Venus exalted at present. You can see I am in love,

> and

> > for so long deepening more, but the course of my life as has so

far

> > been holds no promises or guarantees, I will just do my practice

> > daily and see what happens with my deservedness.

> >

> > So my current goal is both... when I feel my ishta Devta near

> > (occasionally) in spirit the lady I mention also drifts

seemlessly

> in

> > the vision and then I hope even more as ishta Devata and karaka

for

> > spouse are both Moon.

> >

> > She knows I am facing issues and need, and cant avoid solitude,

> and

> > so she has asked for us to not meet until March 10 2009 and see

> what

> > we have before us then... it tastes so much of a divine high

> > romance... I try not to hope and just be in present.

> >

> > Thank you, Your comments will be comforting,

> > Best wishes,

> > Simon

> >

> >

> >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Simon,

> > >

> > > Pls wait till tomorrow, well, I w'd like to know what's ur

> current

> > > goal, to get enlightened or to get love or to get both.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I wish you to get love first and then settle for enlightenment.

> > >

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lalit & anyone who has read this thread,

> > > >

> > > > Please forgive my impatience in my life, :-) I understand

that

> > the

> > > > transits are making my quest for self understanding and

teaching

> > > > far too urgent.

> > > >

> > > > Lalit if you wish to comment it might be fun, but is this

> about

> > > fun

> > > > also? I am far too serious I think?!

> > > >

> > > > At least I hope I made some people chuckle. I have a lot to

> learn

> > > > about myself yet. Thankfully I was taught something this

> > morning

> > > by

> > > > a tiny bird in the garden!

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > > Simon Groves

> > > >

> > > > --- In

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Lalit, And Sr astrologers,

> > > > >

> > > > > Please find my chart details:

> > > > >

> > > > > Appleton (England, UK) 2W33 53N21

> > > > > 11 October 1967

> > > > > 08:48 (am)

> > > > > Daylight Savings +1,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Due to current mental turbulence of planets transiting over

> > natal

> > > > > Moon's house. I can't, for a little while at least, enter

> into

> > > > much

> > > > > of the philosophical exchange I like. My concerns are

> > practical

> > > in

> > > > > managing karma in the most sensible way for inner growth.

> > Please

> > > > > help me with your experience, it will be helpful to talk to

> > > someone

> > > > > who is especially interested or experienced in spiritual

life

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > charts.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lalit thank you, I will be interested to hear your thoughts

> and

> > > > > feelings - my planets are in...

> > > > >

> > > > > Lagna - Chitra

> > > > > Sun (12th) in Chitra (12th House)

> > > > > Ketu (Asc) in Chitra (Ascendent)

> > > > > Mercury (Asc) Swathi

> > > > > Moon (4th) in Uttarashadha

> > > > > Mars (2nd) in Jyestha

> > > > > Saturn (6th) in Uttarabhadrapada

> > > > > Rahu (7th) in Ashwini

> > > > > Jupiter (11th) in Magha

> > > > > Venus (11th) in Magha

> > > > >

> > > > > Although it is not appropriate to discuss my specific

> > > relationship

> > > > > with a lady I mentioned as it is quite a saga of support

and

> > deep

> > > > > friendship... she also has the Ketu ascendent and Rahu in

7th.

> > > > >

> > > > > The difficulty is the love generated by this ongoing story

> with

> > > > > her... also I experience deep enhancement of my spiritual

> > > devotion

> > > > > and experience ... she is a Ketu-Rahu -1-7 axis Sagittarius-

> asc

> > > > with

> > > > > a very potent spiritual chart, with Moon having remarkeable

> > > > Shadbala

> > > > > points in 7th in Gemini. So such a woman brings my

> questions

> > > of

> > > > > what will be most helpful in my life in respect of

> > enlightenment

> > > > > goals and relationships to a most important level.

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't expect to quieten this testing emotional challenge

> > > > > immediately in respect to the lady, as our love story

> continues

> > > > > toward success or failure in a mysterious way always, and

it

> > has

> > > > > developed over 8 years. But I practice proper meditation

and

> > just

> > > > go

> > > > > with watching my self as best I can... I feel I am making

> > > progress

> > > > > one step at a time.

> > > > >

> > > > > Please forgive the use of so many words, with my Mercury

> > > placement

> > > > I

> > > > > find it hard to summarize when I talk of 'me'.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > >

> > > > > Simon

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You have not told us about Saturn and Mar's position in

ur

> > > > > horoscope.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Group has experienced Sr astrologers except for me,

kindly

> > post

> > > > > full

> > > > > > details of ur's horoscope, both lagna and navamsha along

> with

> > > > > > nakschhtra occupied by planets,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I hope they as well as I will do honest and sincere

effort

> to

> > > > look

> > > > > > into ur life.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have joined here today looking for very sensitive

> > guidance

> > > on

> > > > > > > my spiritual path. With Rahu-Ketu 7-1 axis, with Libra

> > > > ascendent

> > > > > > > (mercury with Ketu) and Sun in 12th, my life is a

> constant

> > > > flow

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > lessons, and I am embracing these as I go through life.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But in the area of Love, as a Libran these lessons are

> the

> > > most

> > > > > > > challenging and up until now the most painful. I have

at

> > > last

> > > > > > fallen

> > > > > > > in Love with someone's Soul, over an 8 year period of

> > getting

> > > > > know

> > > > > > > this person more and more, and yet I have spritual

> > questions

> > > I

> > > > > need

> > > > > > > to search answers for in this connection.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > These answers, I believe will come to realization

through

> > the

> > > > > > mystery

> > > > > > > of God through my practices but I feel it could help me

> to

> > > > > resolve

> > > > > > > more in relative action and decision making in the big

> > swell

> > > of

> > > > > > heart

> > > > > > > and spiritual conflict.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please will a respected guru/teacher consider teaching

me

> > > more

> > > > > > deeply

> > > > > > > about aspects of my chart in respect of spiritual

> progress

> > > and

> > > > > > > journey toward enlightnment. I wish that as many

> desicions

> > > and

> > > > > > > actions I make in life lead to my only true goals of

> inner

> > > > > > > independent happinesss.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I will be happy to meet via messenger or if necessary

to

> > make

> > > > all

> > > > > > my

> > > > > > > questions public. Some issues are painful and I am

> > inclined

> > > to

> > > > > > > privacy but I would willingly go with what he or she

> wishes.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thank you to the moderator for accepting my application

> to

> > > join.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Best Wishes,

> > > > > > > Simon Groves

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Simon,

 

I m happy to receive ur invitation and accept it, I w'd visit ur place

when right time comes for it, Let me know first, what good god does

for you, for both goals.

 

I have to do analysis for you, not getting enough time, my projects

release is scheduled this week and 2nd round of testing is going on.

 

Well, i m interested to know what's ur business - Are you in pharama

(medical) or in shipping or doing business of sea products. what dasha

you are running currently, pls tell that also.

 

In the astrology we have discovered Yoga Karakas, Mahapurush Yogas,

Raj Yogas etc... but, hardly any study happened to know Yoga

responsible for triggering transformation of oneself.

 

Your, horoscope has some similarity with that of Mahtma Gandhi's

horoscope, Let me find out the degree and depth of transformation

written for you in the life.

 

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

<simon.groves1 wrote:

>

> Dear Lalit,

> God bless your dear heart... I was unsure of exactly where you were

> coming from... All I knew is that there was mystery behind your

> message.. and only that it came from a pure heart's place...

>

> An of course you can imagine why I foolishly ask you " did you get

the

> girl lalit? " but that is just an interest in a film... my weakness.

>

> Outside this Lalit.. in your message today... to bear your Soul in

> this message is touching to my painul heart... and I aslo have an

> astounding TM teacher who is able to " say " go way and I love you my

> son, metaphorically in the same sentence... I am blessed to receive

> friends like you... and this recluse I am... who hides so much in

his

> room would welcome you with tea or water and whatevr you like a good

> wholesome meal on any day of the week...

>

> So take that please as an open invitation... I live at presnt with

my

> parents... and when I tell them what you shared... they will welcome

> you at anytime I know...

>

> Outside of this I will be very happy to specifically hear you

thought

> and feelings on my chart.

>

> Thank you for understanding how head functions and heart.. I am

> waiting and waiting :-)... but I feel the day is coming relively

soon

> gainst the backdrop of my life.

>

> Natal Mars has too many words,

> so with Moon in transit there,

> Thank you,

> I must go and lie down, because you have seen my whole story...

thank

> you,

>

> I feel like saying in this moment, just to my personal taste....

>

> Jai Guru Dev

> Simon

>

>

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Simon,

> >

> > Love in duality can transform to love in non duality.

> > She is lucky that there is somebody who loves her this much.

> >

> > In your case, I can suggest you to walk towards the selflessness ,

> > such a selflessness makes u blissful, gives internal delight when

u

> > perceive in the external world ur emotions are not reciprocal, why

> > so, coz, that's mere a perception.

> >

> > when u feel delighted with no cause for that, and can see urself

in

> > other beings heart, u become successful in ur love. u should find

> > urself in other's heart ... !!

> >

> > Right now, You find her in ur heart, this is half of the whole

> > chemistry.

> >

> > when i was in my twenties, I undergone same phase of life that u r

> > undsergoing today, I could get God's vision, could speak to God at

> > his will and sometimes i felt at my will also, could insist to God

> to

> > get things as per my wishes ...., I didn't know where that girl

was

> > living and i had no communication with her, was not knowing her

> cell

> > no but i wanted to have a glimpse of her, wanted to meet her, i

was

> > meeting, How, I was asking God, where she will come today, and

> going

> > to the place echoing within in answers to questions that i was

> asking

> > to God, and without any failure i was meeting her.

> >

> > Though, I could see the God, I couldn't generate same love in her

> > heart ....... i was in deep pain, I was thinking I m in love, no,

i

> > was not, in fact, I was loving my expectations of being close to

> her,

> > expectations of her knowing how special she is for me ... etc...

> >

> > True love happens within, no external object is required. make

> urself

> > free from expectations, then there is enlightenments and love

> > togather.

> >

> > but, whatever it is, whatever i m saying to you, I wish the God to

> > make u happy in love.

> >

> > Will speak astrologically little later.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Bless you Lalit,

> > > I tell you I never in all my days dreamed a woman could capture

a

> > > mans heart the way this lady has, she has broken me when I

needed

> > to

> > > break, built me up when I was down, and all with spirit alone,

of

> > > course with eyes to melt the heart of my feeling. It is her

> sight

> > > that takes my breath away and almost absolute modesty and simple

> > Moon

> > > spirit. In her company I am in church with holy water and a

> font.

> > > I feel her as the ishta Devta I struggle to worship, Maha Durga.

> > >

> > > I will wait until I hear from you, and thank you for what is

your

> > > romantic heart also in wishing I 'get the girl' and then

> > > enlightenment... but isnt that what we all wish when we watch a

> > good

> > > film?

> > >

> > > It is what I wish also because I honestly did not know that

> another

> > > human can transform anothers life so deeply inside, bringing me

> to

> > > face the most beutiful and uncomfortable truths of my journey.

> And

> > > so in my heart I wish one day to protect her, as her karma is

> > > difficult often and Shani also brings her sparse living, and

> still

> > > she is holy in respect. I wish to protect her from the

lonliness

> > > that she treads as a seeker in an English society where her

gifts

> > are

> > > most often seen as " odd " " wierd " etc...

> > >

> > > So yes I also would like to deserve her one day to be her

> companion

> > > and helper and learn from her... and yes I hope as I feel that

> she

> > > would bring me closer to enlightenment as she has already. For

> 8

> > > years I have loved constantly and only the next antardasha may

> tell

> > > the next part of our adventure, whether my Mercury (9th Lord)

> will

> > > bring some stronger spirituality in me that deserves to sit with

> > her

> > > as a companion. She does know how purely I 'see' her and she

> > says

> > > this is profound and I see her heart hoping.

> > >

> > > ANd she is mature and will wait to see what remians of me when

> > > this 'ilness' has washed through me.

> > >

> > >

> > > It must be Venus exalted at present. You can see I am in love,

> > and

> > > for so long deepening more, but the course of my life as has so

> far

> > > been holds no promises or guarantees, I will just do my practice

> > > daily and see what happens with my deservedness.

> > >

> > > So my current goal is both... when I feel my ishta Devta near

> > > (occasionally) in spirit the lady I mention also drifts

> seemlessly

> > in

> > > the vision and then I hope even more as ishta Devata and karaka

> for

> > > spouse are both Moon.

> > >

> > > She knows I am facing issues and need, and cant avoid solitude,

> > and

> > > so she has asked for us to not meet until March 10 2009 and see

> > what

> > > we have before us then... it tastes so much of a divine high

> > > romance... I try not to hope and just be in present.

> > >

> > > Thank you, Your comments will be comforting,

> > > Best wishes,

> > > Simon

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Simon,

> > > >

> > > > Pls wait till tomorrow, well, I w'd like to know what's ur

> > current

> > > > goal, to get enlightened or to get love or to get both.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I wish you to get love first and then settle for

enlightenment.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lalit

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Lalit & anyone who has read this thread,

> > > > >

> > > > > Please forgive my impatience in my life, :-) I understand

> that

> > > the

> > > > > transits are making my quest for self understanding and

> teaching

> > > > > far too urgent.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lalit if you wish to comment it might be fun, but is this

> > about

> > > > fun

> > > > > also? I am far too serious I think?!

> > > > >

> > > > > At least I hope I made some people chuckle. I have a lot to

> > learn

> > > > > about myself yet. Thankfully I was taught something this

> > > morning

> > > > by

> > > > > a tiny bird in the garden!

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > Simon Groves

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Lalit, And Sr astrologers,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please find my chart details:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Appleton (England, UK) 2W33 53N21

> > > > > > 11 October 1967

> > > > > > 08:48 (am)

> > > > > > Daylight Savings +1,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Due to current mental turbulence of planets transiting

over

> > > natal

> > > > > > Moon's house. I can't, for a little while at least, enter

> > into

> > > > > much

> > > > > > of the philosophical exchange I like. My concerns are

> > > practical

> > > > in

> > > > > > managing karma in the most sensible way for inner growth.

> > > Please

> > > > > > help me with your experience, it will be helpful to talk

to

> > > > someone

> > > > > > who is especially interested or experienced in spiritual

> life

> > > in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > charts.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lalit thank you, I will be interested to hear your

thoughts

> > and

> > > > > > feelings - my planets are in...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lagna - Chitra

> > > > > > Sun (12th) in Chitra (12th House)

> > > > > > Ketu (Asc) in Chitra (Ascendent)

> > > > > > Mercury (Asc) Swathi

> > > > > > Moon (4th) in Uttarashadha

> > > > > > Mars (2nd) in Jyestha

> > > > > > Saturn (6th) in Uttarabhadrapada

> > > > > > Rahu (7th) in Ashwini

> > > > > > Jupiter (11th) in Magha

> > > > > > Venus (11th) in Magha

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Although it is not appropriate to discuss my specific

> > > > relationship

> > > > > > with a lady I mentioned as it is quite a saga of support

> and

> > > deep

> > > > > > friendship... she also has the Ketu ascendent and Rahu in

> 7th.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The difficulty is the love generated by this ongoing story

> > with

> > > > > > her... also I experience deep enhancement of my spiritual

> > > > devotion

> > > > > > and experience ... she is a Ketu-Rahu -1-7 axis

Sagittarius-

> > asc

> > > > > with

> > > > > > a very potent spiritual chart, with Moon having

remarkeable

> > > > > Shadbala

> > > > > > points in 7th in Gemini. So such a woman brings my

> > questions

> > > > of

> > > > > > what will be most helpful in my life in respect of

> > > enlightenment

> > > > > > goals and relationships to a most important level.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I don't expect to quieten this testing emotional challenge

> > > > > > immediately in respect to the lady, as our love story

> > continues

> > > > > > toward success or failure in a mysterious way always, and

> it

> > > has

> > > > > > developed over 8 years. But I practice proper meditation

> and

> > > just

> > > > > go

> > > > > > with watching my self as best I can... I feel I am making

> > > > progress

> > > > > > one step at a time.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please forgive the use of so many words, with my Mercury

> > > > placement

> > > > > I

> > > > > > find it hard to summarize when I talk of 'me'.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Simon

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You have not told us about Saturn and Mar's position in

> ur

> > > > > > horoscope.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Group has experienced Sr astrologers except for me,

> kindly

> > > post

> > > > > > full

> > > > > > > details of ur's horoscope, both lagna and navamsha along

> > with

> > > > > > > nakschhtra occupied by planets,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I hope they as well as I will do honest and sincere

> effort

> > to

> > > > > look

> > > > > > > into ur life.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have joined here today looking for very sensitive

> > > guidance

> > > > on

> > > > > > > > my spiritual path. With Rahu-Ketu 7-1 axis, with

Libra

> > > > > ascendent

> > > > > > > > (mercury with Ketu) and Sun in 12th, my life is a

> > constant

> > > > > flow

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > lessons, and I am embracing these as I go through

life.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > But in the area of Love, as a Libran these lessons are

> > the

> > > > most

> > > > > > > > challenging and up until now the most painful. I have

> at

> > > > last

> > > > > > > fallen

> > > > > > > > in Love with someone's Soul, over an 8 year period of

> > > getting

> > > > > > know

> > > > > > > > this person more and more, and yet I have spritual

> > > questions

> > > > I

> > > > > > need

> > > > > > > > to search answers for in this connection.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > These answers, I believe will come to realization

> through

> > > the

> > > > > > > mystery

> > > > > > > > of God through my practices but I feel it could help

me

> > to

> > > > > > resolve

> > > > > > > > more in relative action and decision making in the big

> > > swell

> > > > of

> > > > > > > heart

> > > > > > > > and spiritual conflict.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please will a respected guru/teacher consider teaching

> me

> > > > more

> > > > > > > deeply

> > > > > > > > about aspects of my chart in respect of spiritual

> > progress

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > journey toward enlightnment. I wish that as many

> > desicions

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > actions I make in life lead to my only true goals of

> > inner

> > > > > > > > independent happinesss.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I will be happy to meet via messenger or if necessary

> to

> > > make

> > > > > all

> > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > questions public. Some issues are painful and I am

> > > inclined

> > > > to

> > > > > > > > privacy but I would willingly go with what he or she

> > wishes.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thank you to the moderator for accepting my

application

> > to

> > > > join.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Best Wishes,

> > > > > > > > Simon Groves

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Lalit,

 

Maybe its a weakness or a strength I dont know, because I am a very

restricted scholar of Jyotish as far as holding so many techniques in

mind... I have become a little jaded...through life's self made

batterings.

 

But it would be nice to see yur chart if you would share details? I

cant look deeply into a chart unless I have a close social with

someone so it will be just to say hello to your chart?

 

 

So how is God good to me? ... well I would say mostly in my growing

intuition is how god is good to me... because it is in that that we

save ourselves.

 

But in my relative life God is good by bringing lessons that are as I

could never have imagined... the kind I read in fables and epic

adventures when I was little...

 

I tell God what kind of Lady I need and so God clicks his fingers and

seems to bring her to me... he shows me highly compatible partners

who feel as though I have already lived with them a lifetime... and

yet my issues of transformation, especially the conflict in my chart

bewteen Jupiter love and Venus type 'love' are so painful in body as

well as mind and heart.

 

I feel with Sun in 12th this is my greatest area of need, for what

I want to be FULL in resolution and satisfation of inner peace.

 

My practices are moving me in this direction much faster than before

I did them... and showing me what I actually want...

 

Before I found Jyotish I belived I wanted to be like Buddha and go

the whole distance, yet I think " how conceited to think I could be

like the giant Buddha statues " And then since I am in touch with

some very very good Jyotish people professionally and in interest, I

hear some powerful thing about enlightenment possibilities in my

chart and I get excited, scared, daunted and hopeful all together.

 

But I just meditate evryday and whatch my old world slowly blown

apart before my eyes.. I dont know where I am now ... only that the

world is seeming a better place everyday.

 

I would like to hear your opinions and intuitions about how MUCH the

Jupiter - Venus - sex and spirit friction will transfom through my

spiritual practices. In the eyes of the " west " I am a celibate now,

(I just wish to have any more children.) Yet this decision although

it is right for me, is just the start, made in physical and mental

action only, the desires of the spirit still drag up through the mud

of life past in present hangover.

 

This is clearing by every single set of asanas, and mediation I do,

but the seeking life is also never content on finding some " resting

place " .

 

God helps me by making things that I used to wish I didnt see...

including pains and upsetting truths in life around us... so much

more vivid and unescapable, so that if I want to do something which

is not in the best spiritual directtion .. like have " just one more

beer " HE/She shows me vivid reflections of what the reality of

having that unnesesary extra beer is really about... so I see the

accompanying truthfull vision in some inner image...

 

This is the power of god in my life, and I used to feel it a curse,

because so far its painful... I am losing attachments in new positive

aversions to old habits.... and going through the islotaion this

brings in general life.

 

 

Its looking good for me, but I need to always be on top of my game

evry hour of each day so I dont slide.

 

What do you see for advice or general comment in my chart in respect

of my transormation.... I am told that true mediation wipes the chart

into being made in sand instead of stone... in this respect what doe

sthe chart say on my actula spiritual growth, including the area I

mentioned of Jupiter-Venus conflict in love and sex desire?

 

 

Whenever you are free is perfect for me, It sounds like you are

doing good things... All the best with finishing your project and

success with it!

 

Enjoy your chappatis :-)!

 

Best wishes,

Simon

 

 

 

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

<mishra.lalit wrote:

>

> Dear Simon,

>

> I m happy to receive ur invitation and accept it, I w'd visit ur

place

> when right time comes for it, Let me know first, what good god does

> for you, for both goals.

>

> I have to do analysis for you, not getting enough time, my projects

> release is scheduled this week and 2nd round of testing is going on.

>

> Well, i m interested to know what's ur business - Are you in

pharama

> (medical) or in shipping or doing business of sea products. what

dasha

> you are running currently, pls tell that also.

>

> In the astrology we have discovered Yoga Karakas, Mahapurush Yogas,

> Raj Yogas etc... but, hardly any study happened to know Yoga

> responsible for triggering transformation of oneself.

>

> Your, horoscope has some similarity with that of Mahtma Gandhi's

> horoscope, Let me find out the degree and depth of transformation

> written for you in the life.

>

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Lalit,

> > God bless your dear heart... I was unsure of exactly where you

were

> > coming from... All I knew is that there was mystery behind your

> > message.. and only that it came from a pure heart's place...

> >

> > An of course you can imagine why I foolishly ask you " did you get

> the

> > girl lalit? " but that is just an interest in a film... my

weakness.

> >

> > Outside this Lalit.. in your message today... to bear your Soul

in

> > this message is touching to my painul heart... and I aslo have an

> > astounding TM teacher who is able to " say " go way and I love you

my

> > son, metaphorically in the same sentence... I am blessed to

receive

> > friends like you... and this recluse I am... who hides so much in

> his

> > room would welcome you with tea or water and whatevr you like a

good

> > wholesome meal on any day of the week...

> >

> > So take that please as an open invitation... I live at presnt

with

> my

> > parents... and when I tell them what you shared... they will

welcome

> > you at anytime I know...

> >

> > Outside of this I will be very happy to specifically hear you

> thought

> > and feelings on my chart.

> >

> > Thank you for understanding how head functions and heart.. I am

> > waiting and waiting :-)... but I feel the day is coming relively

> soon

> > gainst the backdrop of my life.

> >

> > Natal Mars has too many words,

> > so with Moon in transit there,

> > Thank you,

> > I must go and lie down, because you have seen my whole story...

> thank

> > you,

> >

> > I feel like saying in this moment, just to my personal taste....

> >

> > Jai Guru Dev

> > Simon

> >

> >

> >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Simon,

> > >

> > > Love in duality can transform to love in non duality.

> > > She is lucky that there is somebody who loves her this much.

> > >

> > > In your case, I can suggest you to walk towards the

selflessness ,

> > > such a selflessness makes u blissful, gives internal delight

when

> u

> > > perceive in the external world ur emotions are not reciprocal,

why

> > > so, coz, that's mere a perception.

> > >

> > > when u feel delighted with no cause for that, and can see

urself

> in

> > > other beings heart, u become successful in ur love. u should

find

> > > urself in other's heart ... !!

> > >

> > > Right now, You find her in ur heart, this is half of the whole

> > > chemistry.

> > >

> > > when i was in my twenties, I undergone same phase of life that

u r

> > > undsergoing today, I could get God's vision, could speak to God

at

> > > his will and sometimes i felt at my will also, could insist to

God

> > to

> > > get things as per my wishes ...., I didn't know where that girl

> was

> > > living and i had no communication with her, was not knowing her

> > cell

> > > no but i wanted to have a glimpse of her, wanted to meet her, i

> was

> > > meeting, How, I was asking God, where she will come today, and

> > going

> > > to the place echoing within in answers to questions that i was

> > asking

> > > to God, and without any failure i was meeting her.

> > >

> > > Though, I could see the God, I couldn't generate same love in

her

> > > heart ....... i was in deep pain, I was thinking I m in love,

no,

> i

> > > was not, in fact, I was loving my expectations of being close

to

> > her,

> > > expectations of her knowing how special she is for me ... etc...

> > >

> > > True love happens within, no external object is required. make

> > urself

> > > free from expectations, then there is enlightenments and love

> > > togather.

> > >

> > > but, whatever it is, whatever i m saying to you, I wish the God

to

> > > make u happy in love.

> > >

> > > Will speak astrologically little later.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Bless you Lalit,

> > > > I tell you I never in all my days dreamed a woman could

capture

> a

> > > > mans heart the way this lady has, she has broken me when I

> needed

> > > to

> > > > break, built me up when I was down, and all with spirit

alone,

> of

> > > > course with eyes to melt the heart of my feeling. It is her

> > sight

> > > > that takes my breath away and almost absolute modesty and

simple

> > > Moon

> > > > spirit. In her company I am in church with holy water and a

> > font.

> > > > I feel her as the ishta Devta I struggle to worship, Maha

Durga.

> > > >

> > > > I will wait until I hear from you, and thank you for what is

> your

> > > > romantic heart also in wishing I 'get the girl' and then

> > > > enlightenment... but isnt that what we all wish when we watch

a

> > > good

> > > > film?

> > > >

> > > > It is what I wish also because I honestly did not know that

> > another

> > > > human can transform anothers life so deeply inside, bringing

me

> > to

> > > > face the most beutiful and uncomfortable truths of my

journey.

> > And

> > > > so in my heart I wish one day to protect her, as her karma is

> > > > difficult often and Shani also brings her sparse living, and

> > still

> > > > she is holy in respect. I wish to protect her from the

> lonliness

> > > > that she treads as a seeker in an English society where her

> gifts

> > > are

> > > > most often seen as " odd " " wierd " etc...

> > > >

> > > > So yes I also would like to deserve her one day to be her

> > companion

> > > > and helper and learn from her... and yes I hope as I feel

that

> > she

> > > > would bring me closer to enlightenment as she has already.

For

> > 8

> > > > years I have loved constantly and only the next antardasha

may

> > tell

> > > > the next part of our adventure, whether my Mercury (9th Lord)

> > will

> > > > bring some stronger spirituality in me that deserves to sit

with

> > > her

> > > > as a companion. She does know how purely I 'see' her and

she

> > > says

> > > > this is profound and I see her heart hoping.

> > > >

> > > > ANd she is mature and will wait to see what remians of me

when

> > > > this 'ilness' has washed through me.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > It must be Venus exalted at present. You can see I am in

love,

> > > and

> > > > for so long deepening more, but the course of my life as has

so

> > far

> > > > been holds no promises or guarantees, I will just do my

practice

> > > > daily and see what happens with my deservedness.

> > > >

> > > > So my current goal is both... when I feel my ishta Devta near

> > > > (occasionally) in spirit the lady I mention also drifts

> > seemlessly

> > > in

> > > > the vision and then I hope even more as ishta Devata and

karaka

> > for

> > > > spouse are both Moon.

> > > >

> > > > She knows I am facing issues and need, and cant avoid

solitude,

> > > and

> > > > so she has asked for us to not meet until March 10 2009 and

see

> > > what

> > > > we have before us then... it tastes so much of a divine high

> > > > romance... I try not to hope and just be in present.

> > > >

> > > > Thank you, Your comments will be comforting,

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > > Simon

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > >

> > > > > Pls wait till tomorrow, well, I w'd like to know what's ur

> > > current

> > > > > goal, to get enlightened or to get love or to get both.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I wish you to get love first and then settle for

> enlightenment.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Lalit

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Lalit & anyone who has read this thread,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please forgive my impatience in my life, :-) I understand

> > that

> > > > the

> > > > > > transits are making my quest for self understanding and

> > teaching

> > > > > > far too urgent.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lalit if you wish to comment it might be fun, but is

this

> > > about

> > > > > fun

> > > > > > also? I am far too serious I think?!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > At least I hope I made some people chuckle. I have a lot

to

> > > learn

> > > > > > about myself yet. Thankfully I was taught something

this

> > > > morning

> > > > > by

> > > > > > a tiny bird in the garden!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > Simon Groves

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Lalit, And Sr astrologers,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please find my chart details:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Appleton (England, UK) 2W33 53N21

> > > > > > > 11 October 1967

> > > > > > > 08:48 (am)

> > > > > > > Daylight Savings +1,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Due to current mental turbulence of planets transiting

> over

> > > > natal

> > > > > > > Moon's house. I can't, for a little while at least,

enter

> > > into

> > > > > > much

> > > > > > > of the philosophical exchange I like. My concerns are

> > > > practical

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > managing karma in the most sensible way for inner

growth.

> > > > Please

> > > > > > > help me with your experience, it will be helpful to

talk

> to

> > > > > someone

> > > > > > > who is especially interested or experienced in

spiritual

> > life

> > > > in

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > charts.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lalit thank you, I will be interested to hear your

> thoughts

> > > and

> > > > > > > feelings - my planets are in...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lagna - Chitra

> > > > > > > Sun (12th) in Chitra (12th House)

> > > > > > > Ketu (Asc) in Chitra (Ascendent)

> > > > > > > Mercury (Asc) Swathi

> > > > > > > Moon (4th) in Uttarashadha

> > > > > > > Mars (2nd) in Jyestha

> > > > > > > Saturn (6th) in Uttarabhadrapada

> > > > > > > Rahu (7th) in Ashwini

> > > > > > > Jupiter (11th) in Magha

> > > > > > > Venus (11th) in Magha

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Although it is not appropriate to discuss my specific

> > > > > relationship

> > > > > > > with a lady I mentioned as it is quite a saga of

support

> > and

> > > > deep

> > > > > > > friendship... she also has the Ketu ascendent and Rahu

in

> > 7th.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The difficulty is the love generated by this ongoing

story

> > > with

> > > > > > > her... also I experience deep enhancement of my

spiritual

> > > > > devotion

> > > > > > > and experience ... she is a Ketu-Rahu -1-7 axis

> Sagittarius-

> > > asc

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > a very potent spiritual chart, with Moon having

> remarkeable

> > > > > > Shadbala

> > > > > > > points in 7th in Gemini. So such a woman brings my

> > > questions

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > what will be most helpful in my life in respect of

> > > > enlightenment

> > > > > > > goals and relationships to a most important level.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I don't expect to quieten this testing emotional

challenge

> > > > > > > immediately in respect to the lady, as our love story

> > > continues

> > > > > > > toward success or failure in a mysterious way always,

and

> > it

> > > > has

> > > > > > > developed over 8 years. But I practice proper

meditation

> > and

> > > > just

> > > > > > go

> > > > > > > with watching my self as best I can... I feel I am

making

> > > > > progress

> > > > > > > one step at a time.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please forgive the use of so many words, with my

Mercury

> > > > > placement

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > find it hard to summarize when I talk of 'me'.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Simon

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You have not told us about Saturn and Mar's position

in

> > ur

> > > > > > > horoscope.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Group has experienced Sr astrologers except for me,

> > kindly

> > > > post

> > > > > > > full

> > > > > > > > details of ur's horoscope, both lagna and navamsha

along

> > > with

> > > > > > > > nakschhtra occupied by planets,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I hope they as well as I will do honest and sincere

> > effort

> > > to

> > > > > > look

> > > > > > > > into ur life.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > >

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I have joined here today looking for very sensitive

> > > > guidance

> > > > > on

> > > > > > > > > my spiritual path. With Rahu-Ketu 7-1 axis, with

> Libra

> > > > > > ascendent

> > > > > > > > > (mercury with Ketu) and Sun in 12th, my life is a

> > > constant

> > > > > > flow

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > lessons, and I am embracing these as I go through

> life.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > But in the area of Love, as a Libran these lessons

are

> > > the

> > > > > most

> > > > > > > > > challenging and up until now the most painful. I

have

> > at

> > > > > last

> > > > > > > > fallen

> > > > > > > > > in Love with someone's Soul, over an 8 year period

of

> > > > getting

> > > > > > > know

> > > > > > > > > this person more and more, and yet I have spritual

> > > > questions

> > > > > I

> > > > > > > need

> > > > > > > > > to search answers for in this connection.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > These answers, I believe will come to realization

> > through

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > mystery

> > > > > > > > > of God through my practices but I feel it could

help

> me

> > > to

> > > > > > > resolve

> > > > > > > > > more in relative action and decision making in the

big

> > > > swell

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > heart

> > > > > > > > > and spiritual conflict.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Please will a respected guru/teacher consider

teaching

> > me

> > > > > more

> > > > > > > > deeply

> > > > > > > > > about aspects of my chart in respect of spiritual

> > > progress

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > journey toward enlightnment. I wish that as many

> > > desicions

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > actions I make in life lead to my only true goals

of

> > > inner

> > > > > > > > > independent happinesss.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I will be happy to meet via messenger or if

necessary

> > to

> > > > make

> > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > questions public. Some issues are painful and I am

> > > > inclined

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > privacy but I would willingly go with what he or

she

> > > wishes.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thank you to the moderator for accepting my

> application

> > > to

> > > > > join.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Best Wishes,

> > > > > > > > > Simon Groves

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Simon,

 

Today, I m staying at RK Da's residence, happen to post from his

login.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " arkaydash "

<arkaydash wrote:

>

> Dear Simon,

>

> Sun in 12'th makes one spend disproportionate energy in pursuit of

> worldly sovereignty or lordship as per the characterisic of sign

in

> 12'th, The naive wants to feel he is at the helm, some w'd say,

sun

> in 12'th may push to one run after women, or may make one rebel to

> conventional govt rulings etc.. thus gove w'd take away his wealth

> etc, that's why it's not appreciated by astro classics.

>

>

> now, come to point - where sun gets solace (vishranti), where he

> respites?

>

> only at 2 places - near his spouce and near his mother.

>

> so, if we want to undersand the how the sun's placement in 12'th

> house is affecting one's life, we should take care of lagna, lagna

> lord, 4'th house and 4'th lord.

>

> you got moon in 4'th in a earthy sign, so, sun'12 house effect

get's

> some footing, i mean, ur energies will not go in vain, but, 4'th

> lord has gone to 6'th house in meena (pisces), and 6'th lord is

Jup

> is conjunct Venus the lagna lord, i had seen it the other day,

which

> helped me to see, u r on the path of transformaion, in astrology,

> 6'th to 6'th house is taken as hose of gains, in this house of

> gains, you have got ur's lagna lord along with 6'th lord itself, i

> worked on this mystery of life, so, along with the gains that u

w'd

> get easily like wealth and other comforts, major spritual gain

after

> u meet ur guru, is destined for u.

>

> This guru should not take u to seclusion where u will not do

penance

> spending life near bonfire in deep forest. u will have to enjoy ur

> life by being beautiful to world around u.

>

> u wish to know abt the horoscope that destiny has given to me :

take

> down - 17 aug 1972, 20.15 at Rewa, India (24N32,81E18).

>

> Take Care,

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

>

>

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Lalit,

> >

> > Maybe its a weakness or a strength I dont know, because I am a

> very

> > restricted scholar of Jyotish as far as holding so many

techniques

> in

> > mind... I have become a little jaded...through life's self made

> > batterings.

> >

> > But it would be nice to see yur chart if you would share

details?

> I

> > cant look deeply into a chart unless I have a close social with

> > someone so it will be just to say hello to your chart?

> >

> >

> > So how is God good to me? ... well I would say mostly in my

> growing

> > intuition is how god is good to me... because it is in that that

> we

> > save ourselves.

> >

> > But in my relative life God is good by bringing lessons that are

> as I

> > could never have imagined... the kind I read in fables and epic

> > adventures when I was little...

> >

> > I tell God what kind of Lady I need and so God clicks his

fingers

> and

> > seems to bring her to me... he shows me highly compatible

> partners

> > who feel as though I have already lived with them a lifetime...

> and

> > yet my issues of transformation, especially the conflict in my

> chart

> > bewteen Jupiter love and Venus type 'love' are so painful in

body

> as

> > well as mind and heart.

> >

> > I feel with Sun in 12th this is my greatest area of need, for

> what

> > I want to be FULL in resolution and satisfation of inner peace.

> >

> > My practices are moving me in this direction much faster than

> before

> > I did them... and showing me what I actually want...

> >

> > Before I found Jyotish I belived I wanted to be like Buddha and

go

> > the whole distance, yet I think " how conceited to think I could

be

> > like the giant Buddha statues " And then since I am in touch

with

> > some very very good Jyotish people professionally and in

interest,

> I

> > hear some powerful thing about enlightenment possibilities in my

> > chart and I get excited, scared, daunted and hopeful all

together.

> >

> > But I just meditate evryday and whatch my old world slowly

blown

> > apart before my eyes.. I dont know where I am now ... only that

> the

> > world is seeming a better place everyday.

> >

> > I would like to hear your opinions and intuitions about how MUCH

> the

> > Jupiter - Venus - sex and spirit friction will transfom through

my

> > spiritual practices. In the eyes of the " west " I am a celibate

> now,

> > (I just wish to have any more children.) Yet this decision

> although

> > it is right for me, is just the start, made in physical and

> mental

> > action only, the desires of the spirit still drag up through

the

> mud

> > of life past in present hangover.

> >

> > This is clearing by every single set of asanas, and mediation I

> do,

> > but the seeking life is also never content on finding

> some " resting

> > place " .

> >

> > God helps me by making things that I used to wish I didnt see...

> > including pains and upsetting truths in life around us... so

much

> > more vivid and unescapable, so that if I want to do something

> which

> > is not in the best spiritual directtion .. like have " just one

> more

> > beer " HE/She shows me vivid reflections of what the reality of

> > having that unnesesary extra beer is really about... so I see

the

> > accompanying truthfull vision in some inner image...

> >

> > This is the power of god in my life, and I used to feel it a

> curse,

> > because so far its painful... I am losing attachments in new

> positive

> > aversions to old habits.... and going through the islotaion this

> > brings in general life.

> >

> >

> > Its looking good for me, but I need to always be on top of my

game

> > evry hour of each day so I dont slide.

> >

> > What do you see for advice or general comment in my chart in

> respect

> > of my transormation.... I am told that true mediation wipes the

> chart

> > into being made in sand instead of stone... in this respect what

> doe

> > sthe chart say on my actula spiritual growth, including the area

I

> > mentioned of Jupiter-Venus conflict in love and sex desire?

> >

> >

> > Whenever you are free is perfect for me, It sounds like you are

> > doing good things... All the best with finishing your project

and

> > success with it!

> >

> > Enjoy your chappatis :-)!

> >

> > Best wishes,

> > Simon

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Simon,

> > >

> > > I m happy to receive ur invitation and accept it, I w'd visit

ur

> > place

> > > when right time comes for it, Let me know first, what good god

> does

> > > for you, for both goals.

> > >

> > > I have to do analysis for you, not getting enough time, my

> projects

> > > release is scheduled this week and 2nd round of testing is

going

> on.

> > >

> > > Well, i m interested to know what's ur business - Are you in

> > pharama

> > > (medical) or in shipping or doing business of sea products.

what

> > dasha

> > > you are running currently, pls tell that also.

> > >

> > > In the astrology we have discovered Yoga Karakas, Mahapurush

> Yogas,

> > > Raj Yogas etc... but, hardly any study happened to know Yoga

> > > responsible for triggering transformation of oneself.

> > >

> > > Your, horoscope has some similarity with that of Mahtma

Gandhi's

> > > horoscope, Let me find out the degree and depth of

> transformation

> > > written for you in the life.

> > >

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit.

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lalit,

> > > > God bless your dear heart... I was unsure of exactly where

> you

> > were

> > > > coming from... All I knew is that there was mystery behind

> your

> > > > message.. and only that it came from a pure heart's place...

> > > >

> > > > An of course you can imagine why I foolishly ask you " did

you

> get

> > > the

> > > > girl lalit? " but that is just an interest in a film... my

> > weakness.

> > > >

> > > > Outside this Lalit.. in your message today... to bear your

> Soul

> > in

> > > > this message is touching to my painul heart... and I aslo

have

> an

> > > > astounding TM teacher who is able to " say " go way and I

love

> you

> > my

> > > > son, metaphorically in the same sentence... I am blessed to

> > receive

> > > > friends like you... and this recluse I am... who hides so

much

> in

> > > his

> > > > room would welcome you with tea or water and whatevr you

like

> a

> > good

> > > > wholesome meal on any day of the week...

> > > >

> > > > So take that please as an open invitation... I live at

presnt

> > with

> > > my

> > > > parents... and when I tell them what you shared... they will

> > welcome

> > > > you at anytime I know...

> > > >

> > > > Outside of this I will be very happy to specifically hear

you

> > > thought

> > > > and feelings on my chart.

> > > >

> > > > Thank you for understanding how head functions and heart.. I

> am

> > > > waiting and waiting :-)... but I feel the day is coming

> relively

> > > soon

> > > > gainst the backdrop of my life.

> > > >

> > > > Natal Mars has too many words,

> > > > so with Moon in transit there,

> > > > Thank you,

> > > > I must go and lie down, because you have seen my whole

> story...

> > > thank

> > > > you,

> > > >

> > > > I feel like saying in this moment, just to my personal

> taste....

> > > >

> > > > Jai Guru Dev

> > > > Simon

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > >

> > > > > Love in duality can transform to love in non duality.

> > > > > She is lucky that there is somebody who loves her this

much.

> > > > >

> > > > > In your case, I can suggest you to walk towards the

> > selflessness ,

> > > > > such a selflessness makes u blissful, gives internal

delight

> > when

> > > u

> > > > > perceive in the external world ur emotions are not

> reciprocal,

> > why

> > > > > so, coz, that's mere a perception.

> > > > >

> > > > > when u feel delighted with no cause for that, and can see

> > urself

> > > in

> > > > > other beings heart, u become successful in ur love. u

should

> > find

> > > > > urself in other's heart ... !!

> > > > >

> > > > > Right now, You find her in ur heart, this is half of the

> whole

> > > > > chemistry.

> > > > >

> > > > > when i was in my twenties, I undergone same phase of life

> that

> > u r

> > > > > undsergoing today, I could get God's vision, could speak

to

> God

> > at

> > > > > his will and sometimes i felt at my will also, could

insist

> to

> > God

> > > > to

> > > > > get things as per my wishes ...., I didn't know where that

> girl

> > > was

> > > > > living and i had no communication with her, was not

knowing

> her

> > > > cell

> > > > > no but i wanted to have a glimpse of her, wanted to meet

> her, i

> > > was

> > > > > meeting, How, I was asking God, where she will come today,

> and

> > > > going

> > > > > to the place echoing within in answers to questions that i

> was

> > > > asking

> > > > > to God, and without any failure i was meeting her.

> > > > >

> > > > > Though, I could see the God, I couldn't generate same love

> in

> > her

> > > > > heart ....... i was in deep pain, I was thinking I m in

> love,

> > no,

> > > i

> > > > > was not, in fact, I was loving my expectations of being

> close

> > to

> > > > her,

> > > > > expectations of her knowing how special she is for me ...

> etc...

> > > > >

> > > > > True love happens within, no external object is required.

> make

> > > > urself

> > > > > free from expectations, then there is enlightenments and

> love

> > > > > togather.

> > > > >

> > > > > but, whatever it is, whatever i m saying to you, I wish

the

> God

> > to

> > > > > make u happy in love.

> > > > >

> > > > > Will speak astrologically little later.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Lalit

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bless you Lalit,

> > > > > > I tell you I never in all my days dreamed a woman could

> > capture

> > > a

> > > > > > mans heart the way this lady has, she has broken me when

I

> > > needed

> > > > > to

> > > > > > break, built me up when I was down, and all with spirit

> > alone,

> > > of

> > > > > > course with eyes to melt the heart of my feeling. It

is

> her

> > > > sight

> > > > > > that takes my breath away and almost absolute modesty

and

> > simple

> > > > > Moon

> > > > > > spirit. In her company I am in church with holy water

> and a

> > > > font.

> > > > > > I feel her as the ishta Devta I struggle to worship,

Maha

> > Durga.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I will wait until I hear from you, and thank you for

what

> is

> > > your

> > > > > > romantic heart also in wishing I 'get the girl' and then

> > > > > > enlightenment... but isnt that what we all wish when we

> watch

> > a

> > > > > good

> > > > > > film?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It is what I wish also because I honestly did not know

> that

> > > > another

> > > > > > human can transform anothers life so deeply inside,

> bringing

> > me

> > > > to

> > > > > > face the most beutiful and uncomfortable truths of my

> > journey.

> > > > And

> > > > > > so in my heart I wish one day to protect her, as her

karma

> is

> > > > > > difficult often and Shani also brings her sparse living,

> and

> > > > still

> > > > > > she is holy in respect. I wish to protect her from the

> > > lonliness

> > > > > > that she treads as a seeker in an English society where

> her

> > > gifts

> > > > > are

> > > > > > most often seen as " odd " " wierd " etc...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So yes I also would like to deserve her one day to be

her

> > > > companion

> > > > > > and helper and learn from her... and yes I hope as I

feel

> > that

> > > > she

> > > > > > would bring me closer to enlightenment as she has

> already.

> > For

> > > > 8

> > > > > > years I have loved constantly and only the next

antardasha

> > may

> > > > tell

> > > > > > the next part of our adventure, whether my Mercury (9th

> Lord)

> > > > will

> > > > > > bring some stronger spirituality in me that deserves to

> sit

> > with

> > > > > her

> > > > > > as a companion. She does know how purely I 'see' her

> and

> > she

> > > > > says

> > > > > > this is profound and I see her heart hoping.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ANd she is mature and will wait to see what remians of

me

> > when

> > > > > > this 'ilness' has washed through me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It must be Venus exalted at present. You can see I am

in

> > love,

> > > > > and

> > > > > > for so long deepening more, but the course of my life as

> has

> > so

> > > > far

> > > > > > been holds no promises or guarantees, I will just do my

> > practice

> > > > > > daily and see what happens with my deservedness.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So my current goal is both... when I feel my ishta Devta

> near

> > > > > > (occasionally) in spirit the lady I mention also drifts

> > > > seemlessly

> > > > > in

> > > > > > the vision and then I hope even more as ishta Devata and

> > karaka

> > > > for

> > > > > > spouse are both Moon.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > She knows I am facing issues and need, and cant avoid

> > solitude,

> > > > > and

> > > > > > so she has asked for us to not meet until March 10 2009

> and

> > see

> > > > > what

> > > > > > we have before us then... it tastes so much of a divine

> high

> > > > > > romance... I try not to hope and just be in present.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank you, Your comments will be comforting,

> > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > Simon

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Pls wait till tomorrow, well, I w'd like to know

what's

> ur

> > > > > current

> > > > > > > goal, to get enlightened or to get love or to get both.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I wish you to get love first and then settle for

> > > enlightenment.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > Lalit

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > > > >

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Lalit & anyone who has read this thread,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please forgive my impatience in my life, :-) I

> understand

> > > > that

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > transits are making my quest for self understanding

> and

> > > > teaching

> > > > > > > > far too urgent.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lalit if you wish to comment it might be fun, but

is

> > this

> > > > > about

> > > > > > > fun

> > > > > > > > also? I am far too serious I think?!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > At least I hope I made some people chuckle. I have

a

> lot

> > to

> > > > > learn

> > > > > > > > about myself yet. Thankfully I was taught

something

> > this

> > > > > > morning

> > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > a tiny bird in the garden!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > > > Simon Groves

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > >

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, And Sr astrologers,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Please find my chart details:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Appleton (England, UK) 2W33 53N21

> > > > > > > > > 11 October 1967

> > > > > > > > > 08:48 (am)

> > > > > > > > > Daylight Savings +1,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Due to current mental turbulence of planets

> transiting

> > > over

> > > > > > natal

> > > > > > > > > Moon's house. I can't, for a little while at

least,

> > enter

> > > > > into

> > > > > > > > much

> > > > > > > > > of the philosophical exchange I like. My concerns

> are

> > > > > > practical

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > managing karma in the most sensible way for inner

> > growth.

> > > > > > Please

> > > > > > > > > help me with your experience, it will be helpful

to

> > talk

> > > to

> > > > > > > someone

> > > > > > > > > who is especially interested or experienced in

> > spiritual

> > > > life

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > charts.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lalit thank you, I will be interested to hear your

> > > thoughts

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > feelings - my planets are in...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lagna - Chitra

> > > > > > > > > Sun (12th) in Chitra (12th House)

> > > > > > > > > Ketu (Asc) in Chitra (Ascendent)

> > > > > > > > > Mercury (Asc) Swathi

> > > > > > > > > Moon (4th) in Uttarashadha

> > > > > > > > > Mars (2nd) in Jyestha

> > > > > > > > > Saturn (6th) in Uttarabhadrapada

> > > > > > > > > Rahu (7th) in Ashwini

> > > > > > > > > Jupiter (11th) in Magha

> > > > > > > > > Venus (11th) in Magha

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Although it is not appropriate to discuss my

> specific

> > > > > > > relationship

> > > > > > > > > with a lady I mentioned as it is quite a saga of

> > support

> > > > and

> > > > > > deep

> > > > > > > > > friendship... she also has the Ketu ascendent and

> Rahu

> > in

> > > > 7th.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The difficulty is the love generated by this

ongoing

> > story

> > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > her... also I experience deep enhancement of my

> > spiritual

> > > > > > > devotion

> > > > > > > > > and experience ... she is a Ketu-Rahu -1-7 axis

> > > Sagittarius-

> > > > > asc

> > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > a very potent spiritual chart, with Moon having

> > > remarkeable

> > > > > > > > Shadbala

> > > > > > > > > points in 7th in Gemini. So such a woman brings

> my

> > > > > questions

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > what will be most helpful in my life in respect of

> > > > > > enlightenment

> > > > > > > > > goals and relationships to a most important level.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I don't expect to quieten this testing emotional

> > challenge

> > > > > > > > > immediately in respect to the lady, as our love

> story

> > > > > continues

> > > > > > > > > toward success or failure in a mysterious way

> always,

> > and

> > > > it

> > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > developed over 8 years. But I practice proper

> > meditation

> > > > and

> > > > > > just

> > > > > > > > go

> > > > > > > > > with watching my self as best I can... I feel I am

> > making

> > > > > > > progress

> > > > > > > > > one step at a time.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Please forgive the use of so many words, with my

> > Mercury

> > > > > > > placement

> > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > find it hard to summarize when I talk of 'me'.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Simon

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > You have not told us about Saturn and Mar's

> position

> > in

> > > > ur

> > > > > > > > > horoscope.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Group has experienced Sr astrologers except for

> me,

> > > > kindly

> > > > > > post

> > > > > > > > > full

> > > > > > > > > > details of ur's horoscope, both lagna and

navamsha

> > along

> > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > nakschhtra occupied by planets,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I hope they as well as I will do honest and

> sincere

> > > > effort

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > > look

> > > > > > > > > > into ur life.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > > >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I have joined here today looking for very

> sensitive

> > > > > > guidance

> > > > > > > on

> > > > > > > > > > > my spiritual path. With Rahu-Ketu 7-1 axis,

> with

> > > Libra

> > > > > > > > ascendent

> > > > > > > > > > > (mercury with Ketu) and Sun in 12th, my life

is

> a

> > > > > constant

> > > > > > > > flow

> > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > lessons, and I am embracing these as I go

> through

> > > life.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > But in the area of Love, as a Libran these

> lessons

> > are

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > > > > challenging and up until now the most

painful.

> I

> > have

> > > > at

> > > > > > > last

> > > > > > > > > > fallen

> > > > > > > > > > > in Love with someone's Soul, over an 8 year

> period

> > of

> > > > > > getting

> > > > > > > > > know

> > > > > > > > > > > this person more and more, and yet I have

> spritual

> > > > > > questions

> > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > need

> > > > > > > > > > > to search answers for in this connection.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > These answers, I believe will come to

> realization

> > > > through

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > mystery

> > > > > > > > > > > of God through my practices but I feel it

could

> > help

> > > me

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > resolve

> > > > > > > > > > > more in relative action and decision making in

> the

> > big

> > > > > > swell

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > heart

> > > > > > > > > > > and spiritual conflict.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Please will a respected guru/teacher consider

> > teaching

> > > > me

> > > > > > > more

> > > > > > > > > > deeply

> > > > > > > > > > > about aspects of my chart in respect of

> spiritual

> > > > > progress

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > journey toward enlightnment. I wish that as

> many

> > > > > desicions

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > actions I make in life lead to my only true

> goals

> > of

> > > > > inner

> > > > > > > > > > > independent happinesss.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I will be happy to meet via messenger or if

> > necessary

> > > > to

> > > > > > make

> > > > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > > questions public. Some issues are painful and

I

> am

> > > > > > inclined

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > privacy but I would willingly go with what he

or

> > she

> > > > > wishes.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thank you to the moderator for accepting my

> > > application

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > join.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes,

> > > > > > > > > > > Simon Groves

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Simon,

 

Sun in 12'th makes one spend disproportionate energy in pursuit of

worldly sovereignty or lordship as per the characterisic of sign in

12'th, The naive wants to feel he is at the helm, some w'd say, sun

in 12'th may push to one run after women, or may make one rebel to

conventional govt rulings etc.. thus gove w'd take away his wealth

etc, that's why it's not appreciated by astro classics.

 

now, come to point - where sun gets solace (vishranti), where he

respites?

 

only at 2 places - near his spouce and near his mother.

 

so, if we want to undersand the how the sun's placement in 12'th

house is affecting one's life, we should take care of lagna, lagna

lord, 4'th house and 4'th lord.

 

you got moon in 4'th in a earthy sign, so, sun'12 house effect get's

some footing, i mean, ur energies will not go in vain, but, 4'th

lord has gone to 6'th house in meena (pisces), and 6'th lord is Jup

is conjunct Venus the lagna lord, i had seen it the other day, which

helped me to see, u r on the path of transformaion, in astrology,

6'th to 6'th house is taken as house of gains, in this house of

gains, you have got ur's lagna lord along with 6'th lord itself, i

worked on this mystery of life, so, along with the gains that u w'd

get easily like wealth and other comforts, major spritual gain after

u meet ur guru, is destined for u.

 

This guru should not take u to seclusion where u will do penance

spending life near bonfire in deep forest. u will have to enjoy ur

life by being beautiful to world around u.

 

u wish to know abt the horoscope that destiny has given to me : take

down - 17 aug 1972, 20.15 at Rewa, India (24N32,81E18).

 

Take Care,

regards,

Lalit.

>

>

>

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> simon.groves1@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Lalit,

> >

> > Maybe its a weakness or a strength I dont know, because I am a

> very

> > restricted scholar of Jyotish as far as holding so many techniques

> in

> > mind... I have become a little jaded...through life's self made

> > batterings.

> >

> > But it would be nice to see yur chart if you would share details?

> I

> > cant look deeply into a chart unless I have a close social with

> > someone so it will be just to say hello to your chart?

> >

> >

> > So how is God good to me? ... well I would say mostly in my

> growing

> > intuition is how god is good to me... because it is in that that

> we

> > save ourselves.

> >

> > But in my relative life God is good by bringing lessons that are

> as I

> > could never have imagined... the kind I read in fables and epic

> > adventures when I was little...

> >

> > I tell God what kind of Lady I need and so God clicks his fingers

> and

> > seems to bring her to me... he shows me highly compatible

> partners

> > who feel as though I have already lived with them a lifetime...

> and

> > yet my issues of transformation, especially the conflict in my

> chart

> > bewteen Jupiter love and Venus type 'love' are so painful in body

> as

> > well as mind and heart.

> >

> > I feel with Sun in 12th this is my greatest area of need, for

> what

> > I want to be FULL in resolution and satisfation of inner peace.

> >

> > My practices are moving me in this direction much faster than

> before

> > I did them... and showing me what I actually want...

> >

> > Before I found Jyotish I belived I wanted to be like Buddha and go

> > the whole distance, yet I think " how conceited to think I could be

> > like the giant Buddha statues " And then since I am in touch with

> > some very very good Jyotish people professionally and in interest,

> I

> > hear some powerful thing about enlightenment possibilities in my

> > chart and I get excited, scared, daunted and hopeful all together.

> >

> > But I just meditate evryday and whatch my old world slowly blown

> > apart before my eyes.. I dont know where I am now ... only that

> the

> > world is seeming a better place everyday.

> >

> > I would like to hear your opinions and intuitions about how MUCH

> the

> > Jupiter - Venus - sex and spirit friction will transfom through my

> > spiritual practices. In the eyes of the " west " I am a celibate

> now,

> > (I just wish to have any more children.) Yet this decision

> although

> > it is right for me, is just the start, made in physical and

> mental

> > action only, the desires of the spirit still drag up through the

> mud

> > of life past in present hangover.

> >

> > This is clearing by every single set of asanas, and mediation I

> do,

> > but the seeking life is also never content on finding

> some " resting

> > place " .

> >

> > God helps me by making things that I used to wish I didnt see...

> > including pains and upsetting truths in life around us... so much

> > more vivid and unescapable, so that if I want to do something

> which

> > is not in the best spiritual directtion .. like have " just one

> more

> > beer " HE/She shows me vivid reflections of what the reality of

> > having that unnesesary extra beer is really about... so I see the

> > accompanying truthfull vision in some inner image...

> >

> > This is the power of god in my life, and I used to feel it a

> curse,

> > because so far its painful... I am losing attachments in new

> positive

> > aversions to old habits.... and going through the islotaion this

> > brings in general life.

> >

> >

> > Its looking good for me, but I need to always be on top of my game

> > evry hour of each day so I dont slide.

> >

> > What do you see for advice or general comment in my chart in

> respect

> > of my transormation.... I am told that true mediation wipes the

> chart

> > into being made in sand instead of stone... in this respect what

> doe

> > sthe chart say on my actula spiritual growth, including the area I

> > mentioned of Jupiter-Venus conflict in love and sex desire?

> >

> >

> > Whenever you are free is perfect for me, It sounds like you are

> > doing good things... All the best with finishing your project and

> > success with it!

> >

> > Enjoy your chappatis :-)!

> >

> > Best wishes,

> > Simon

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Simon,

> > >

> > > I m happy to receive ur invitation and accept it, I w'd visit ur

> > place

> > > when right time comes for it, Let me know first, what good god

> does

> > > for you, for both goals.

> > >

> > > I have to do analysis for you, not getting enough time, my

> projects

> > > release is scheduled this week and 2nd round of testing is going

> on.

> > >

> > > Well, i m interested to know what's ur business - Are you in

> > pharama

> > > (medical) or in shipping or doing business of sea products. what

> > dasha

> > > you are running currently, pls tell that also.

> > >

> > > In the astrology we have discovered Yoga Karakas, Mahapurush

> Yogas,

> > > Raj Yogas etc... but, hardly any study happened to know Yoga

> > > responsible for triggering transformation of oneself.

> > >

> > > Your, horoscope has some similarity with that of Mahtma Gandhi's

> > > horoscope, Let me find out the degree and depth of

> transformation

> > > written for you in the life.

> > >

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit.

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lalit,

> > > > God bless your dear heart... I was unsure of exactly where

> you

> > were

> > > > coming from... All I knew is that there was mystery behind

> your

> > > > message.. and only that it came from a pure heart's place...

> > > >

> > > > An of course you can imagine why I foolishly ask you " did you

> get

> > > the

> > > > girl lalit? " but that is just an interest in a film... my

> > weakness.

> > > >

> > > > Outside this Lalit.. in your message today... to bear your

> Soul

> > in

> > > > this message is touching to my painul heart... and I aslo have

> an

> > > > astounding TM teacher who is able to " say " go way and I love

> you

> > my

> > > > son, metaphorically in the same sentence... I am blessed to

> > receive

> > > > friends like you... and this recluse I am... who hides so much

> in

> > > his

> > > > room would welcome you with tea or water and whatevr you like

> a

> > good

> > > > wholesome meal on any day of the week...

> > > >

> > > > So take that please as an open invitation... I live at presnt

> > with

> > > my

> > > > parents... and when I tell them what you shared... they will

> > welcome

> > > > you at anytime I know...

> > > >

> > > > Outside of this I will be very happy to specifically hear you

> > > thought

> > > > and feelings on my chart.

> > > >

> > > > Thank you for understanding how head functions and heart.. I

> am

> > > > waiting and waiting :-)... but I feel the day is coming

> relively

> > > soon

> > > > gainst the backdrop of my life.

> > > >

> > > > Natal Mars has too many words,

> > > > so with Moon in transit there,

> > > > Thank you,

> > > > I must go and lie down, because you have seen my whole

> story...

> > > thank

> > > > you,

> > > >

> > > > I feel like saying in this moment, just to my personal

> taste....

> > > >

> > > > Jai Guru Dev

> > > > Simon

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > >

> > > > > Love in duality can transform to love in non duality.

> > > > > She is lucky that there is somebody who loves her this much.

> > > > >

> > > > > In your case, I can suggest you to walk towards the

> > selflessness ,

> > > > > such a selflessness makes u blissful, gives internal delight

> > when

> > > u

> > > > > perceive in the external world ur emotions are not

> reciprocal,

> > why

> > > > > so, coz, that's mere a perception.

> > > > >

> > > > > when u feel delighted with no cause for that, and can see

> > urself

> > > in

> > > > > other beings heart, u become successful in ur love. u should

> > find

> > > > > urself in other's heart ... !!

> > > > >

> > > > > Right now, You find her in ur heart, this is half of the

> whole

> > > > > chemistry.

> > > > >

> > > > > when i was in my twenties, I undergone same phase of life

> that

> > u r

> > > > > undsergoing today, I could get God's vision, could speak to

> God

> > at

> > > > > his will and sometimes i felt at my will also, could insist

> to

> > God

> > > > to

> > > > > get things as per my wishes ...., I didn't know where that

> girl

> > > was

> > > > > living and i had no communication with her, was not knowing

> her

> > > > cell

> > > > > no but i wanted to have a glimpse of her, wanted to meet

> her, i

> > > was

> > > > > meeting, How, I was asking God, where she will come today,

> and

> > > > going

> > > > > to the place echoing within in answers to questions that i

> was

> > > > asking

> > > > > to God, and without any failure i was meeting her.

> > > > >

> > > > > Though, I could see the God, I couldn't generate same love

> in

> > her

> > > > > heart ....... i was in deep pain, I was thinking I m in

> love,

> > no,

> > > i

> > > > > was not, in fact, I was loving my expectations of being

> close

> > to

> > > > her,

> > > > > expectations of her knowing how special she is for me ...

> etc...

> > > > >

> > > > > True love happens within, no external object is required.

> make

> > > > urself

> > > > > free from expectations, then there is enlightenments and

> love

> > > > > togather.

> > > > >

> > > > > but, whatever it is, whatever i m saying to you, I wish the

> God

> > to

> > > > > make u happy in love.

> > > > >

> > > > > Will speak astrologically little later.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Lalit

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bless you Lalit,

> > > > > > I tell you I never in all my days dreamed a woman could

> > capture

> > > a

> > > > > > mans heart the way this lady has, she has broken me when I

> > > needed

> > > > > to

> > > > > > break, built me up when I was down, and all with spirit

> > alone,

> > > of

> > > > > > course with eyes to melt the heart of my feeling. It is

> her

> > > > sight

> > > > > > that takes my breath away and almost absolute modesty and

> > simple

> > > > > Moon

> > > > > > spirit. In her company I am in church with holy water

> and a

> > > > font.

> > > > > > I feel her as the ishta Devta I struggle to worship, Maha

> > Durga.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I will wait until I hear from you, and thank you for what

> is

> > > your

> > > > > > romantic heart also in wishing I 'get the girl' and then

> > > > > > enlightenment... but isnt that what we all wish when we

> watch

> > a

> > > > > good

> > > > > > film?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It is what I wish also because I honestly did not know

> that

> > > > another

> > > > > > human can transform anothers life so deeply inside,

> bringing

> > me

> > > > to

> > > > > > face the most beutiful and uncomfortable truths of my

> > journey.

> > > > And

> > > > > > so in my heart I wish one day to protect her, as her karma

> is

> > > > > > difficult often and Shani also brings her sparse living,

> and

> > > > still

> > > > > > she is holy in respect. I wish to protect her from the

> > > lonliness

> > > > > > that she treads as a seeker in an English society where

> her

> > > gifts

> > > > > are

> > > > > > most often seen as " odd " " wierd " etc...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So yes I also would like to deserve her one day to be her

> > > > companion

> > > > > > and helper and learn from her... and yes I hope as I feel

> > that

> > > > she

> > > > > > would bring me closer to enlightenment as she has

> already.

> > For

> > > > 8

> > > > > > years I have loved constantly and only the next antardasha

> > may

> > > > tell

> > > > > > the next part of our adventure, whether my Mercury (9th

> Lord)

> > > > will

> > > > > > bring some stronger spirituality in me that deserves to

> sit

> > with

> > > > > her

> > > > > > as a companion. She does know how purely I 'see' her

> and

> > she

> > > > > says

> > > > > > this is profound and I see her heart hoping.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ANd she is mature and will wait to see what remians of me

> > when

> > > > > > this 'ilness' has washed through me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It must be Venus exalted at present. You can see I am in

> > love,

> > > > > and

> > > > > > for so long deepening more, but the course of my life as

> has

> > so

> > > > far

> > > > > > been holds no promises or guarantees, I will just do my

> > practice

> > > > > > daily and see what happens with my deservedness.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So my current goal is both... when I feel my ishta Devta

> near

> > > > > > (occasionally) in spirit the lady I mention also drifts

> > > > seemlessly

> > > > > in

> > > > > > the vision and then I hope even more as ishta Devata and

> > karaka

> > > > for

> > > > > > spouse are both Moon.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > She knows I am facing issues and need, and cant avoid

> > solitude,

> > > > > and

> > > > > > so she has asked for us to not meet until March 10 2009

> and

> > see

> > > > > what

> > > > > > we have before us then... it tastes so much of a divine

> high

> > > > > > romance... I try not to hope and just be in present.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank you, Your comments will be comforting,

> > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > Simon

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Pls wait till tomorrow, well, I w'd like to know what's

> ur

> > > > > current

> > > > > > > goal, to get enlightened or to get love or to get both.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I wish you to get love first and then settle for

> > > enlightenment.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > Lalit

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Lalit & anyone who has read this thread,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please forgive my impatience in my life, :-) I

> understand

> > > > that

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > transits are making my quest for self understanding

> and

> > > > teaching

> > > > > > > > far too urgent.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lalit if you wish to comment it might be fun, but is

> > this

> > > > > about

> > > > > > > fun

> > > > > > > > also? I am far too serious I think?!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > At least I hope I made some people chuckle. I have a

> lot

> > to

> > > > > learn

> > > > > > > > about myself yet. Thankfully I was taught something

> > this

> > > > > > morning

> > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > a tiny bird in the garden!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > > > Simon Groves

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > >

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, And Sr astrologers,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Please find my chart details:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Appleton (England, UK) 2W33 53N21

> > > > > > > > > 11 October 1967

> > > > > > > > > 08:48 (am)

> > > > > > > > > Daylight Savings +1,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Due to current mental turbulence of planets

> transiting

> > > over

> > > > > > natal

> > > > > > > > > Moon's house. I can't, for a little while at least,

> > enter

> > > > > into

> > > > > > > > much

> > > > > > > > > of the philosophical exchange I like. My concerns

> are

> > > > > > practical

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > managing karma in the most sensible way for inner

> > growth.

> > > > > > Please

> > > > > > > > > help me with your experience, it will be helpful to

> > talk

> > > to

> > > > > > > someone

> > > > > > > > > who is especially interested or experienced in

> > spiritual

> > > > life

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > charts.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lalit thank you, I will be interested to hear your

> > > thoughts

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > feelings - my planets are in...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lagna - Chitra

> > > > > > > > > Sun (12th) in Chitra (12th House)

> > > > > > > > > Ketu (Asc) in Chitra (Ascendent)

> > > > > > > > > Mercury (Asc) Swathi

> > > > > > > > > Moon (4th) in Uttarashadha

> > > > > > > > > Mars (2nd) in Jyestha

> > > > > > > > > Saturn (6th) in Uttarabhadrapada

> > > > > > > > > Rahu (7th) in Ashwini

> > > > > > > > > Jupiter (11th) in Magha

> > > > > > > > > Venus (11th) in Magha

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Although it is not appropriate to discuss my

> specific

> > > > > > > relationship

> > > > > > > > > with a lady I mentioned as it is quite a saga of

> > support

> > > > and

> > > > > > deep

> > > > > > > > > friendship... she also has the Ketu ascendent and

> Rahu

> > in

> > > > 7th.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The difficulty is the love generated by this ongoing

> > story

> > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > her... also I experience deep enhancement of my

> > spiritual

> > > > > > > devotion

> > > > > > > > > and experience ... she is a Ketu-Rahu -1-7 axis

> > > Sagittarius-

> > > > > asc

> > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > a very potent spiritual chart, with Moon having

> > > remarkeable

> > > > > > > > Shadbala

> > > > > > > > > points in 7th in Gemini. So such a woman brings

> my

> > > > > questions

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > what will be most helpful in my life in respect of

> > > > > > enlightenment

> > > > > > > > > goals and relationships to a most important level.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I don't expect to quieten this testing emotional

> > challenge

> > > > > > > > > immediately in respect to the lady, as our love

> story

> > > > > continues

> > > > > > > > > toward success or failure in a mysterious way

> always,

> > and

> > > > it

> > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > developed over 8 years. But I practice proper

> > meditation

> > > > and

> > > > > > just

> > > > > > > > go

> > > > > > > > > with watching my self as best I can... I feel I am

> > making

> > > > > > > progress

> > > > > > > > > one step at a time.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Please forgive the use of so many words, with my

> > Mercury

> > > > > > > placement

> > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > find it hard to summarize when I talk of 'me'.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Simon

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > You have not told us about Saturn and Mar's

> position

> > in

> > > > ur

> > > > > > > > > horoscope.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Group has experienced Sr astrologers except for

> me,

> > > > kindly

> > > > > > post

> > > > > > > > > full

> > > > > > > > > > details of ur's horoscope, both lagna and navamsha

> > along

> > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > nakschhtra occupied by planets,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I hope they as well as I will do honest and

> sincere

> > > > effort

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > > look

> > > > > > > > > > into ur life.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > > >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I have joined here today looking for very

> sensitive

> > > > > > guidance

> > > > > > > on

> > > > > > > > > > > my spiritual path. With Rahu-Ketu 7-1 axis,

> with

> > > Libra

> > > > > > > > ascendent

> > > > > > > > > > > (mercury with Ketu) and Sun in 12th, my life is

> a

> > > > > constant

> > > > > > > > flow

> > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > lessons, and I am embracing these as I go

> through

> > > life.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > But in the area of Love, as a Libran these

> lessons

> > are

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > > > > challenging and up until now the most painful.

> I

> > have

> > > > at

> > > > > > > last

> > > > > > > > > > fallen

> > > > > > > > > > > in Love with someone's Soul, over an 8 year

> period

> > of

> > > > > > getting

> > > > > > > > > know

> > > > > > > > > > > this person more and more, and yet I have

> spritual

> > > > > > questions

> > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > need

> > > > > > > > > > > to search answers for in this connection.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > These answers, I believe will come to

> realization

> > > > through

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > mystery

> > > > > > > > > > > of God through my practices but I feel it could

> > help

> > > me

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > resolve

> > > > > > > > > > > more in relative action and decision making in

> the

> > big

> > > > > > swell

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > heart

> > > > > > > > > > > and spiritual conflict.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Please will a respected guru/teacher consider

> > teaching

> > > > me

> > > > > > > more

> > > > > > > > > > deeply

> > > > > > > > > > > about aspects of my chart in respect of

> spiritual

> > > > > progress

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > journey toward enlightnment. I wish that as

> many

> > > > > desicions

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > actions I make in life lead to my only true

> goals

> > of

> > > > > inner

> > > > > > > > > > > independent happinesss.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I will be happy to meet via messenger or if

> > necessary

> > > > to

> > > > > > make

> > > > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > > questions public. Some issues are painful and I

> am

> > > > > > inclined

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > privacy but I would willingly go with what he or

> > she

> > > > > wishes.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thank you to the moderator for accepting my

> > > application

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > join.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes,

> > > > > > > > > > > Simon Groves

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Dear Simon,

 

Now, the difficulties before you - though you have got ur 9'th lord

well placed in lagna, there is ketu to hider you, rahu in 7'th and

7'th lord mars in 2nd house placed in scorpio, indicates, accumulated

and sometimes unusual kama - asakti.

 

How u w'd overcome ? either clean it or discharge it.

 

What u need is a shaktipata to correct the function of muladhara and

swadhisthana chakras and then a consistent and cared push till u get

experiene of manipura.

 

Why u do meditation for 4 - 5 hours, try observing influx of

instincts and to analyse the intensity of sexuality in you, I

promise, when u feel, u need a help, that will be there to calm u

down and put u on the track.

 

take care,

regards,

Lalit

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

<mishra.lalit wrote:

>

> Dear Simon,

>

> Sun in 12'th makes one spend disproportionate energy in pursuit of

> worldly sovereignty or lordship as per the characterisic of sign in

> 12'th, The naive wants to feel he is at the helm, some w'd say, sun

> in 12'th may push to one run after women, or may make one rebel to

> conventional govt rulings etc.. thus gove w'd take away his wealth

> etc, that's why it's not appreciated by astro classics.

>

> now, come to point - where sun gets solace (vishranti), where he

> respites?

>

> only at 2 places - near his spouce and near his mother.

>

> so, if we want to undersand the how the sun's placement in 12'th

> house is affecting one's life, we should take care of lagna, lagna

> lord, 4'th house and 4'th lord.

>

> you got moon in 4'th in a earthy sign, so, sun'12 house effect get's

> some footing, i mean, ur energies will not go in vain, but, 4'th

> lord has gone to 6'th house in meena (pisces), and 6'th lord is Jup

> is conjunct Venus the lagna lord, i had seen it the other day, which

> helped me to see, u r on the path of transformaion, in astrology,

> 6'th to 6'th house is taken as house of gains, in this house of

> gains, you have got ur's lagna lord along with 6'th lord itself, i

> worked on this mystery of life, so, along with the gains that u w'd

> get easily like wealth and other comforts, major spritual gain after

> u meet ur guru, is destined for u.

>

> This guru should not take u to seclusion where u will do penance

> spending life near bonfire in deep forest. u will have to enjoy ur

> life by being beautiful to world around u.

>

> u wish to know abt the horoscope that destiny has given to me : take

> down - 17 aug 1972, 20.15 at Rewa, India (24N32,81E18).

>

> Take Care,

> regards,

> Lalit.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > simon.groves1@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Lalit,

> > >

> > > Maybe its a weakness or a strength I dont know, because I am a

> > very

> > > restricted scholar of Jyotish as far as holding so many

techniques

> > in

> > > mind... I have become a little jaded...through life's self made

> > > batterings.

> > >

> > > But it would be nice to see yur chart if you would share

details?

> > I

> > > cant look deeply into a chart unless I have a close social with

> > > someone so it will be just to say hello to your chart?

> > >

> > >

> > > So how is God good to me? ... well I would say mostly in my

> > growing

> > > intuition is how god is good to me... because it is in that that

> > we

> > > save ourselves.

> > >

> > > But in my relative life God is good by bringing lessons that are

> > as I

> > > could never have imagined... the kind I read in fables and epic

> > > adventures when I was little...

> > >

> > > I tell God what kind of Lady I need and so God clicks his

fingers

> > and

> > > seems to bring her to me... he shows me highly compatible

> > partners

> > > who feel as though I have already lived with them a lifetime...

> > and

> > > yet my issues of transformation, especially the conflict in my

> > chart

> > > bewteen Jupiter love and Venus type 'love' are so painful in

body

> > as

> > > well as mind and heart.

> > >

> > > I feel with Sun in 12th this is my greatest area of need, for

> > what

> > > I want to be FULL in resolution and satisfation of inner peace.

> > >

> > > My practices are moving me in this direction much faster than

> > before

> > > I did them... and showing me what I actually want...

> > >

> > > Before I found Jyotish I belived I wanted to be like Buddha and

go

> > > the whole distance, yet I think " how conceited to think I could

be

> > > like the giant Buddha statues " And then since I am in touch with

> > > some very very good Jyotish people professionally and in

interest,

> > I

> > > hear some powerful thing about enlightenment possibilities in my

> > > chart and I get excited, scared, daunted and hopeful all

together.

> > >

> > > But I just meditate evryday and whatch my old world slowly blown

> > > apart before my eyes.. I dont know where I am now ... only that

> > the

> > > world is seeming a better place everyday.

> > >

> > > I would like to hear your opinions and intuitions about how MUCH

> > the

> > > Jupiter - Venus - sex and spirit friction will transfom through

my

> > > spiritual practices. In the eyes of the " west " I am a celibate

> > now,

> > > (I just wish to have any more children.) Yet this decision

> > although

> > > it is right for me, is just the start, made in physical and

> > mental

> > > action only, the desires of the spirit still drag up through the

> > mud

> > > of life past in present hangover.

> > >

> > > This is clearing by every single set of asanas, and mediation I

> > do,

> > > but the seeking life is also never content on finding

> > some " resting

> > > place " .

> > >

> > > God helps me by making things that I used to wish I didnt see...

> > > including pains and upsetting truths in life around us... so

much

> > > more vivid and unescapable, so that if I want to do something

> > which

> > > is not in the best spiritual directtion .. like have " just one

> > more

> > > beer " HE/She shows me vivid reflections of what the reality of

> > > having that unnesesary extra beer is really about... so I see

the

> > > accompanying truthfull vision in some inner image...

> > >

> > > This is the power of god in my life, and I used to feel it a

> > curse,

> > > because so far its painful... I am losing attachments in new

> > positive

> > > aversions to old habits.... and going through the islotaion this

> > > brings in general life.

> > >

> > >

> > > Its looking good for me, but I need to always be on top of my

game

> > > evry hour of each day so I dont slide.

> > >

> > > What do you see for advice or general comment in my chart in

> > respect

> > > of my transormation.... I am told that true mediation wipes the

> > chart

> > > into being made in sand instead of stone... in this respect what

> > doe

> > > sthe chart say on my actula spiritual growth, including the

area I

> > > mentioned of Jupiter-Venus conflict in love and sex desire?

> > >

> > >

> > > Whenever you are free is perfect for me, It sounds like you are

> > > doing good things... All the best with finishing your project

and

> > > success with it!

> > >

> > > Enjoy your chappatis :-)!

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > > Simon

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Simon,

> > > >

> > > > I m happy to receive ur invitation and accept it, I w'd visit

ur

> > > place

> > > > when right time comes for it, Let me know first, what good god

> > does

> > > > for you, for both goals.

> > > >

> > > > I have to do analysis for you, not getting enough time, my

> > projects

> > > > release is scheduled this week and 2nd round of testing is

going

> > on.

> > > >

> > > > Well, i m interested to know what's ur business - Are you in

> > > pharama

> > > > (medical) or in shipping or doing business of sea products.

what

> > > dasha

> > > > you are running currently, pls tell that also.

> > > >

> > > > In the astrology we have discovered Yoga Karakas, Mahapurush

> > Yogas,

> > > > Raj Yogas etc... but, hardly any study happened to know Yoga

> > > > responsible for triggering transformation of oneself.

> > > >

> > > > Your, horoscope has some similarity with that of Mahtma

Gandhi's

> > > > horoscope, Let me find out the degree and depth of

> > transformation

> > > > written for you in the life.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lalit.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Lalit,

> > > > > God bless your dear heart... I was unsure of exactly where

> > you

> > > were

> > > > > coming from... All I knew is that there was mystery behind

> > your

> > > > > message.. and only that it came from a pure heart's place...

> > > > >

> > > > > An of course you can imagine why I foolishly ask you " did

you

> > get

> > > > the

> > > > > girl lalit? " but that is just an interest in a film... my

> > > weakness.

> > > > >

> > > > > Outside this Lalit.. in your message today... to bear your

> > Soul

> > > in

> > > > > this message is touching to my painul heart... and I aslo

have

> > an

> > > > > astounding TM teacher who is able to " say " go way and I love

> > you

> > > my

> > > > > son, metaphorically in the same sentence... I am blessed to

> > > receive

> > > > > friends like you... and this recluse I am... who hides so

much

> > in

> > > > his

> > > > > room would welcome you with tea or water and whatevr you

like

> > a

> > > good

> > > > > wholesome meal on any day of the week...

> > > > >

> > > > > So take that please as an open invitation... I live at

presnt

> > > with

> > > > my

> > > > > parents... and when I tell them what you shared... they will

> > > welcome

> > > > > you at anytime I know...

> > > > >

> > > > > Outside of this I will be very happy to specifically hear

you

> > > > thought

> > > > > and feelings on my chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you for understanding how head functions and heart.. I

> > am

> > > > > waiting and waiting :-)... but I feel the day is coming

> > relively

> > > > soon

> > > > > gainst the backdrop of my life.

> > > > >

> > > > > Natal Mars has too many words,

> > > > > so with Moon in transit there,

> > > > > Thank you,

> > > > > I must go and lie down, because you have seen my whole

> > story...

> > > > thank

> > > > > you,

> > > > >

> > > > > I feel like saying in this moment, just to my personal

> > taste....

> > > > >

> > > > > Jai Guru Dev

> > > > > Simon

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Love in duality can transform to love in non duality.

> > > > > > She is lucky that there is somebody who loves her this

much.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In your case, I can suggest you to walk towards the

> > > selflessness ,

> > > > > > such a selflessness makes u blissful, gives internal

delight

> > > when

> > > > u

> > > > > > perceive in the external world ur emotions are not

> > reciprocal,

> > > why

> > > > > > so, coz, that's mere a perception.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > when u feel delighted with no cause for that, and can see

> > > urself

> > > > in

> > > > > > other beings heart, u become successful in ur love. u

should

> > > find

> > > > > > urself in other's heart ... !!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Right now, You find her in ur heart, this is half of the

> > whole

> > > > > > chemistry.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > when i was in my twenties, I undergone same phase of life

> > that

> > > u r

> > > > > > undsergoing today, I could get God's vision, could speak

to

> > God

> > > at

> > > > > > his will and sometimes i felt at my will also, could

insist

> > to

> > > God

> > > > > to

> > > > > > get things as per my wishes ...., I didn't know where that

> > girl

> > > > was

> > > > > > living and i had no communication with her, was not

knowing

> > her

> > > > > cell

> > > > > > no but i wanted to have a glimpse of her, wanted to meet

> > her, i

> > > > was

> > > > > > meeting, How, I was asking God, where she will come today,

> > and

> > > > > going

> > > > > > to the place echoing within in answers to questions that i

> > was

> > > > > asking

> > > > > > to God, and without any failure i was meeting her.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Though, I could see the God, I couldn't generate same love

> > in

> > > her

> > > > > > heart ....... i was in deep pain, I was thinking I m in

> > love,

> > > no,

> > > > i

> > > > > > was not, in fact, I was loving my expectations of being

> > close

> > > to

> > > > > her,

> > > > > > expectations of her knowing how special she is for me ...

> > etc...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > True love happens within, no external object is required.

> > make

> > > > > urself

> > > > > > free from expectations, then there is enlightenments and

> > love

> > > > > > togather.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > but, whatever it is, whatever i m saying to you, I wish

the

> > God

> > > to

> > > > > > make u happy in love.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Will speak astrologically little later.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > Lalit

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bless you Lalit,

> > > > > > > I tell you I never in all my days dreamed a woman could

> > > capture

> > > > a

> > > > > > > mans heart the way this lady has, she has broken me

when I

> > > > needed

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > break, built me up when I was down, and all with spirit

> > > alone,

> > > > of

> > > > > > > course with eyes to melt the heart of my feeling. It is

> > her

> > > > > sight

> > > > > > > that takes my breath away and almost absolute modesty

and

> > > simple

> > > > > > Moon

> > > > > > > spirit. In her company I am in church with holy water

> > and a

> > > > > font.

> > > > > > > I feel her as the ishta Devta I struggle to worship,

Maha

> > > Durga.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I will wait until I hear from you, and thank you for

what

> > is

> > > > your

> > > > > > > romantic heart also in wishing I 'get the girl' and then

> > > > > > > enlightenment... but isnt that what we all wish when we

> > watch

> > > a

> > > > > > good

> > > > > > > film?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It is what I wish also because I honestly did not know

> > that

> > > > > another

> > > > > > > human can transform anothers life so deeply inside,

> > bringing

> > > me

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > face the most beutiful and uncomfortable truths of my

> > > journey.

> > > > > And

> > > > > > > so in my heart I wish one day to protect her, as her

karma

> > is

> > > > > > > difficult often and Shani also brings her sparse living,

> > and

> > > > > still

> > > > > > > she is holy in respect. I wish to protect her from the

> > > > lonliness

> > > > > > > that she treads as a seeker in an English society where

> > her

> > > > gifts

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > most often seen as " odd " " wierd " etc...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So yes I also would like to deserve her one day to be

her

> > > > > companion

> > > > > > > and helper and learn from her... and yes I hope as I

feel

> > > that

> > > > > she

> > > > > > > would bring me closer to enlightenment as she has

> > already.

> > > For

> > > > > 8

> > > > > > > years I have loved constantly and only the next

antardasha

> > > may

> > > > > tell

> > > > > > > the next part of our adventure, whether my Mercury (9th

> > Lord)

> > > > > will

> > > > > > > bring some stronger spirituality in me that deserves to

> > sit

> > > with

> > > > > > her

> > > > > > > as a companion. She does know how purely I 'see' her

> > and

> > > she

> > > > > > says

> > > > > > > this is profound and I see her heart hoping.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ANd she is mature and will wait to see what remians of

me

> > > when

> > > > > > > this 'ilness' has washed through me.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It must be Venus exalted at present. You can see I am in

> > > love,

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > for so long deepening more, but the course of my life as

> > has

> > > so

> > > > > far

> > > > > > > been holds no promises or guarantees, I will just do my

> > > practice

> > > > > > > daily and see what happens with my deservedness.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So my current goal is both... when I feel my ishta Devta

> > near

> > > > > > > (occasionally) in spirit the lady I mention also drifts

> > > > > seemlessly

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > the vision and then I hope even more as ishta Devata and

> > > karaka

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > spouse are both Moon.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > She knows I am facing issues and need, and cant avoid

> > > solitude,

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > so she has asked for us to not meet until March 10 2009

> > and

> > > see

> > > > > > what

> > > > > > > we have before us then... it tastes so much of a divine

> > high

> > > > > > > romance... I try not to hope and just be in present.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thank you, Your comments will be comforting,

> > > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > > Simon

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Pls wait till tomorrow, well, I w'd like to know

what's

> > ur

> > > > > > current

> > > > > > > > goal, to get enlightened or to get love or to get

both.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I wish you to get love first and then settle for

> > > > enlightenment.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > Lalit

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > >

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit & anyone who has read this thread,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Please forgive my impatience in my life, :-) I

> > understand

> > > > > that

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > transits are making my quest for self understanding

> > and

> > > > > teaching

> > > > > > > > > far too urgent.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lalit if you wish to comment it might be fun, but is

> > > this

> > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > fun

> > > > > > > > > also? I am far too serious I think?!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > At least I hope I made some people chuckle. I have a

> > lot

> > > to

> > > > > > learn

> > > > > > > > > about myself yet. Thankfully I was taught something

> > > this

> > > > > > > morning

> > > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > > a tiny bird in the garden!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > > > > Simon Groves

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, And Sr astrologers,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Please find my chart details:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Appleton (England, UK) 2W33 53N21

> > > > > > > > > > 11 October 1967

> > > > > > > > > > 08:48 (am)

> > > > > > > > > > Daylight Savings +1,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Due to current mental turbulence of planets

> > transiting

> > > > over

> > > > > > > natal

> > > > > > > > > > Moon's house. I can't, for a little while at

least,

> > > enter

> > > > > > into

> > > > > > > > > much

> > > > > > > > > > of the philosophical exchange I like. My concerns

> > are

> > > > > > > practical

> > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > managing karma in the most sensible way for inner

> > > growth.

> > > > > > > Please

> > > > > > > > > > help me with your experience, it will be helpful

to

> > > talk

> > > > to

> > > > > > > > someone

> > > > > > > > > > who is especially interested or experienced in

> > > spiritual

> > > > > life

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > charts.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Lalit thank you, I will be interested to hear your

> > > > thoughts

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > feelings - my planets are in...

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Lagna - Chitra

> > > > > > > > > > Sun (12th) in Chitra (12th House)

> > > > > > > > > > Ketu (Asc) in Chitra (Ascendent)

> > > > > > > > > > Mercury (Asc) Swathi

> > > > > > > > > > Moon (4th) in Uttarashadha

> > > > > > > > > > Mars (2nd) in Jyestha

> > > > > > > > > > Saturn (6th) in Uttarabhadrapada

> > > > > > > > > > Rahu (7th) in Ashwini

> > > > > > > > > > Jupiter (11th) in Magha

> > > > > > > > > > Venus (11th) in Magha

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Although it is not appropriate to discuss my

> > specific

> > > > > > > > relationship

> > > > > > > > > > with a lady I mentioned as it is quite a saga of

> > > support

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > deep

> > > > > > > > > > friendship... she also has the Ketu ascendent and

> > Rahu

> > > in

> > > > > 7th.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The difficulty is the love generated by this

ongoing

> > > story

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > her... also I experience deep enhancement of my

> > > spiritual

> > > > > > > > devotion

> > > > > > > > > > and experience ... she is a Ketu-Rahu -1-7 axis

> > > > Sagittarius-

> > > > > > asc

> > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > a very potent spiritual chart, with Moon having

> > > > remarkeable

> > > > > > > > > Shadbala

> > > > > > > > > > points in 7th in Gemini. So such a woman brings

> > my

> > > > > > questions

> > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > what will be most helpful in my life in respect of

> > > > > > > enlightenment

> > > > > > > > > > goals and relationships to a most important level.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I don't expect to quieten this testing emotional

> > > challenge

> > > > > > > > > > immediately in respect to the lady, as our love

> > story

> > > > > > continues

> > > > > > > > > > toward success or failure in a mysterious way

> > always,

> > > and

> > > > > it

> > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > > developed over 8 years. But I practice proper

> > > meditation

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > just

> > > > > > > > > go

> > > > > > > > > > with watching my self as best I can... I feel I am

> > > making

> > > > > > > > progress

> > > > > > > > > > one step at a time.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Please forgive the use of so many words, with my

> > > Mercury

> > > > > > > > placement

> > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > find it hard to summarize when I talk of 'me'.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Simon

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > You have not told us about Saturn and Mar's

> > position

> > > in

> > > > > ur

> > > > > > > > > > horoscope.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Group has experienced Sr astrologers except for

> > me,

> > > > > kindly

> > > > > > > post

> > > > > > > > > > full

> > > > > > > > > > > details of ur's horoscope, both lagna and

navamsha

> > > along

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > nakschhtra occupied by planets,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I hope they as well as I will do honest and

> > sincere

> > > > > effort

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > look

> > > > > > > > > > > into ur life.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > > > >

> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I have joined here today looking for very

> > sensitive

> > > > > > > guidance

> > > > > > > > on

> > > > > > > > > > > > my spiritual path. With Rahu-Ketu 7-1 axis,

> > with

> > > > Libra

> > > > > > > > > ascendent

> > > > > > > > > > > > (mercury with Ketu) and Sun in 12th, my life

is

> > a

> > > > > > constant

> > > > > > > > > flow

> > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > lessons, and I am embracing these as I go

> > through

> > > > life.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > But in the area of Love, as a Libran these

> > lessons

> > > are

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > > > > > challenging and up until now the most painful.

> > I

> > > have

> > > > > at

> > > > > > > > last

> > > > > > > > > > > fallen

> > > > > > > > > > > > in Love with someone's Soul, over an 8 year

> > period

> > > of

> > > > > > > getting

> > > > > > > > > > know

> > > > > > > > > > > > this person more and more, and yet I have

> > spritual

> > > > > > > questions

> > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > need

> > > > > > > > > > > > to search answers for in this connection.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > These answers, I believe will come to

> > realization

> > > > > through

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > mystery

> > > > > > > > > > > > of God through my practices but I feel it

could

> > > help

> > > > me

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > resolve

> > > > > > > > > > > > more in relative action and decision making in

> > the

> > > big

> > > > > > > swell

> > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > heart

> > > > > > > > > > > > and spiritual conflict.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Please will a respected guru/teacher consider

> > > teaching

> > > > > me

> > > > > > > > more

> > > > > > > > > > > deeply

> > > > > > > > > > > > about aspects of my chart in respect of

> > spiritual

> > > > > > progress

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > journey toward enlightnment. I wish that as

> > many

> > > > > > desicions

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > actions I make in life lead to my only true

> > goals

> > > of

> > > > > > inner

> > > > > > > > > > > > independent happinesss.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I will be happy to meet via messenger or if

> > > necessary

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > make

> > > > > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > > > questions public. Some issues are painful and

I

> > am

> > > > > > > inclined

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > privacy but I would willingly go with what he

or

> > > she

> > > > > > wishes.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you to the moderator for accepting my

> > > > application

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > join.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Simon Groves

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Simon,

 

I m pretty good in making typo, read last mail's first para like this

 

" though you have got ur 9'th lord well placed in lagna, there is ketu

to hinder you "

 

regards,

Lalit

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

<mishra.lalit wrote:

>

> Dear Simon,

>

> Now, the difficulties before you - though you have got ur 9'th lord

> well placed in lagna, there is ketu to hider you, rahu in 7'th and

> 7'th lord mars in 2nd house placed in scorpio, indicates,

accumulated

> and sometimes unusual kama - asakti.

>

> How u w'd overcome ? either clean it or discharge it.

>

> What u need is a shaktipata to correct the function of muladhara

and

> swadhisthana chakras and then a consistent and cared push till u

get

> experiene of manipura.

>

> Why u do meditation for 4 - 5 hours, try observing influx of

> instincts and to analyse the intensity of sexuality in you, I

> promise, when u feel, u need a help, that will be there to calm u

> down and put u on the track.

>

> take care,

> regards,

> Lalit

>

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Simon,

> >

> > Sun in 12'th makes one spend disproportionate energy in pursuit of

> > worldly sovereignty or lordship as per the characterisic of sign

in

> > 12'th, The naive wants to feel he is at the helm, some w'd say,

sun

> > in 12'th may push to one run after women, or may make one rebel to

> > conventional govt rulings etc.. thus gove w'd take away his wealth

> > etc, that's why it's not appreciated by astro classics.

> >

> > now, come to point - where sun gets solace (vishranti), where he

> > respites?

> >

> > only at 2 places - near his spouce and near his mother.

> >

> > so, if we want to undersand the how the sun's placement in 12'th

> > house is affecting one's life, we should take care of lagna, lagna

> > lord, 4'th house and 4'th lord.

> >

> > you got moon in 4'th in a earthy sign, so, sun'12 house effect

get's

> > some footing, i mean, ur energies will not go in vain, but, 4'th

> > lord has gone to 6'th house in meena (pisces), and 6'th lord is

Jup

> > is conjunct Venus the lagna lord, i had seen it the other day,

which

> > helped me to see, u r on the path of transformaion, in astrology,

> > 6'th to 6'th house is taken as house of gains, in this house of

> > gains, you have got ur's lagna lord along with 6'th lord itself, i

> > worked on this mystery of life, so, along with the gains that u

w'd

> > get easily like wealth and other comforts, major spritual gain

after

> > u meet ur guru, is destined for u.

> >

> > This guru should not take u to seclusion where u will do penance

> > spending life near bonfire in deep forest. u will have to enjoy ur

> > life by being beautiful to world around u.

> >

> > u wish to know abt the horoscope that destiny has given to me :

take

> > down - 17 aug 1972, 20.15 at Rewa, India (24N32,81E18).

> >

> > Take Care,

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > simon.groves1@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lalit,

> > > >

> > > > Maybe its a weakness or a strength I dont know, because I am a

> > > very

> > > > restricted scholar of Jyotish as far as holding so many

> techniques

> > > in

> > > > mind... I have become a little jaded...through life's self

made

> > > > batterings.

> > > >

> > > > But it would be nice to see yur chart if you would share

> details?

> > > I

> > > > cant look deeply into a chart unless I have a close social

with

> > > > someone so it will be just to say hello to your chart?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > So how is God good to me? ... well I would say mostly in my

> > > growing

> > > > intuition is how god is good to me... because it is in that

that

> > > we

> > > > save ourselves.

> > > >

> > > > But in my relative life God is good by bringing lessons that

are

> > > as I

> > > > could never have imagined... the kind I read in fables and

epic

> > > > adventures when I was little...

> > > >

> > > > I tell God what kind of Lady I need and so God clicks his

> fingers

> > > and

> > > > seems to bring her to me... he shows me highly compatible

> > > partners

> > > > who feel as though I have already lived with them a

lifetime...

> > > and

> > > > yet my issues of transformation, especially the conflict in my

> > > chart

> > > > bewteen Jupiter love and Venus type 'love' are so painful in

> body

> > > as

> > > > well as mind and heart.

> > > >

> > > > I feel with Sun in 12th this is my greatest area of need, for

> > > what

> > > > I want to be FULL in resolution and satisfation of inner

peace.

> > > >

> > > > My practices are moving me in this direction much faster than

> > > before

> > > > I did them... and showing me what I actually want...

> > > >

> > > > Before I found Jyotish I belived I wanted to be like Buddha

and

> go

> > > > the whole distance, yet I think " how conceited to think I

could

> be

> > > > like the giant Buddha statues " And then since I am in touch

with

> > > > some very very good Jyotish people professionally and in

> interest,

> > > I

> > > > hear some powerful thing about enlightenment possibilities in

my

> > > > chart and I get excited, scared, daunted and hopeful all

> together.

> > > >

> > > > But I just meditate evryday and whatch my old world slowly

blown

> > > > apart before my eyes.. I dont know where I am now ... only

that

> > > the

> > > > world is seeming a better place everyday.

> > > >

> > > > I would like to hear your opinions and intuitions about how

MUCH

> > > the

> > > > Jupiter - Venus - sex and spirit friction will transfom

through

> my

> > > > spiritual practices. In the eyes of the " west " I am a celibate

> > > now,

> > > > (I just wish to have any more children.) Yet this decision

> > > although

> > > > it is right for me, is just the start, made in physical and

> > > mental

> > > > action only, the desires of the spirit still drag up through

the

> > > mud

> > > > of life past in present hangover.

> > > >

> > > > This is clearing by every single set of asanas, and mediation

I

> > > do,

> > > > but the seeking life is also never content on finding

> > > some " resting

> > > > place " .

> > > >

> > > > God helps me by making things that I used to wish I didnt

see...

> > > > including pains and upsetting truths in life around us... so

> much

> > > > more vivid and unescapable, so that if I want to do something

> > > which

> > > > is not in the best spiritual directtion .. like have " just one

> > > more

> > > > beer " HE/She shows me vivid reflections of what the reality of

> > > > having that unnesesary extra beer is really about... so I see

> the

> > > > accompanying truthfull vision in some inner image...

> > > >

> > > > This is the power of god in my life, and I used to feel it a

> > > curse,

> > > > because so far its painful... I am losing attachments in new

> > > positive

> > > > aversions to old habits.... and going through the islotaion

this

> > > > brings in general life.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Its looking good for me, but I need to always be on top of my

> game

> > > > evry hour of each day so I dont slide.

> > > >

> > > > What do you see for advice or general comment in my chart in

> > > respect

> > > > of my transormation.... I am told that true mediation wipes

the

> > > chart

> > > > into being made in sand instead of stone... in this respect

what

> > > doe

> > > > sthe chart say on my actula spiritual growth, including the

> area I

> > > > mentioned of Jupiter-Venus conflict in love and sex desire?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Whenever you are free is perfect for me, It sounds like you

are

> > > > doing good things... All the best with finishing your project

> and

> > > > success with it!

> > > >

> > > > Enjoy your chappatis :-)!

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > > Simon

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > >

> > > > > I m happy to receive ur invitation and accept it, I w'd

visit

> ur

> > > > place

> > > > > when right time comes for it, Let me know first, what good

god

> > > does

> > > > > for you, for both goals.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have to do analysis for you, not getting enough time, my

> > > projects

> > > > > release is scheduled this week and 2nd round of testing is

> going

> > > on.

> > > > >

> > > > > Well, i m interested to know what's ur business - Are you in

> > > > pharama

> > > > > (medical) or in shipping or doing business of sea products.

> what

> > > > dasha

> > > > > you are running currently, pls tell that also.

> > > > >

> > > > > In the astrology we have discovered Yoga Karakas, Mahapurush

> > > Yogas,

> > > > > Raj Yogas etc... but, hardly any study happened to know Yoga

> > > > > responsible for triggering transformation of oneself.

> > > > >

> > > > > Your, horoscope has some similarity with that of Mahtma

> Gandhi's

> > > > > horoscope, Let me find out the degree and depth of

> > > transformation

> > > > > written for you in the life.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Lalit.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Lalit,

> > > > > > God bless your dear heart... I was unsure of exactly where

> > > you

> > > > were

> > > > > > coming from... All I knew is that there was mystery behind

> > > your

> > > > > > message.. and only that it came from a pure heart's

place...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > An of course you can imagine why I foolishly ask you " did

> you

> > > get

> > > > > the

> > > > > > girl lalit? " but that is just an interest in a film... my

> > > > weakness.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Outside this Lalit.. in your message today... to bear your

> > > Soul

> > > > in

> > > > > > this message is touching to my painul heart... and I aslo

> have

> > > an

> > > > > > astounding TM teacher who is able to " say " go way and I

love

> > > you

> > > > my

> > > > > > son, metaphorically in the same sentence... I am blessed

to

> > > > receive

> > > > > > friends like you... and this recluse I am... who hides so

> much

> > > in

> > > > > his

> > > > > > room would welcome you with tea or water and whatevr you

> like

> > > a

> > > > good

> > > > > > wholesome meal on any day of the week...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So take that please as an open invitation... I live at

> presnt

> > > > with

> > > > > my

> > > > > > parents... and when I tell them what you shared... they

will

> > > > welcome

> > > > > > you at anytime I know...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Outside of this I will be very happy to specifically hear

> you

> > > > > thought

> > > > > > and feelings on my chart.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank you for understanding how head functions and

heart.. I

> > > am

> > > > > > waiting and waiting :-)... but I feel the day is coming

> > > relively

> > > > > soon

> > > > > > gainst the backdrop of my life.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Natal Mars has too many words,

> > > > > > so with Moon in transit there,

> > > > > > Thank you,

> > > > > > I must go and lie down, because you have seen my whole

> > > story...

> > > > > thank

> > > > > > you,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I feel like saying in this moment, just to my personal

> > > taste....

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Jai Guru Dev

> > > > > > Simon

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Love in duality can transform to love in non duality.

> > > > > > > She is lucky that there is somebody who loves her this

> much.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In your case, I can suggest you to walk towards the

> > > > selflessness ,

> > > > > > > such a selflessness makes u blissful, gives internal

> delight

> > > > when

> > > > > u

> > > > > > > perceive in the external world ur emotions are not

> > > reciprocal,

> > > > why

> > > > > > > so, coz, that's mere a perception.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > when u feel delighted with no cause for that, and can

see

> > > > urself

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > other beings heart, u become successful in ur love. u

> should

> > > > find

> > > > > > > urself in other's heart ... !!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Right now, You find her in ur heart, this is half of the

> > > whole

> > > > > > > chemistry.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > when i was in my twenties, I undergone same phase of

life

> > > that

> > > > u r

> > > > > > > undsergoing today, I could get God's vision, could

speak

> to

> > > God

> > > > at

> > > > > > > his will and sometimes i felt at my will also, could

> insist

> > > to

> > > > God

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > get things as per my wishes ...., I didn't know where

that

> > > girl

> > > > > was

> > > > > > > living and i had no communication with her, was not

> knowing

> > > her

> > > > > > cell

> > > > > > > no but i wanted to have a glimpse of her, wanted to meet

> > > her, i

> > > > > was

> > > > > > > meeting, How, I was asking God, where she will come

today,

> > > and

> > > > > > going

> > > > > > > to the place echoing within in answers to questions

that i

> > > was

> > > > > > asking

> > > > > > > to God, and without any failure i was meeting her.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Though, I could see the God, I couldn't generate same

love

> > > in

> > > > her

> > > > > > > heart ....... i was in deep pain, I was thinking I m in

> > > love,

> > > > no,

> > > > > i

> > > > > > > was not, in fact, I was loving my expectations of being

> > > close

> > > > to

> > > > > > her,

> > > > > > > expectations of her knowing how special she is for

me ...

> > > etc...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > True love happens within, no external object is

required.

> > > make

> > > > > > urself

> > > > > > > free from expectations, then there is enlightenments and

> > > love

> > > > > > > togather.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > but, whatever it is, whatever i m saying to you, I wish

> the

> > > God

> > > > to

> > > > > > > make u happy in love.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Will speak astrologically little later.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > Lalit

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Bless you Lalit,

> > > > > > > > I tell you I never in all my days dreamed a woman

could

> > > > capture

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > > mans heart the way this lady has, she has broken me

> when I

> > > > > needed

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > break, built me up when I was down, and all with

spirit

> > > > alone,

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > course with eyes to melt the heart of my feeling. It

is

> > > her

> > > > > > sight

> > > > > > > > that takes my breath away and almost absolute modesty

> and

> > > > simple

> > > > > > > Moon

> > > > > > > > spirit. In her company I am in church with holy water

> > > and a

> > > > > > font.

> > > > > > > > I feel her as the ishta Devta I struggle to worship,

> Maha

> > > > Durga.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I will wait until I hear from you, and thank you for

> what

> > > is

> > > > > your

> > > > > > > > romantic heart also in wishing I 'get the girl' and

then

> > > > > > > > enlightenment... but isnt that what we all wish when

we

> > > watch

> > > > a

> > > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > film?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It is what I wish also because I honestly did not know

> > > that

> > > > > > another

> > > > > > > > human can transform anothers life so deeply inside,

> > > bringing

> > > > me

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > face the most beutiful and uncomfortable truths of my

> > > > journey.

> > > > > > And

> > > > > > > > so in my heart I wish one day to protect her, as her

> karma

> > > is

> > > > > > > > difficult often and Shani also brings her sparse

living,

> > > and

> > > > > > still

> > > > > > > > she is holy in respect. I wish to protect her from the

> > > > > lonliness

> > > > > > > > that she treads as a seeker in an English society

where

> > > her

> > > > > gifts

> > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > most often seen as " odd " " wierd " etc...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So yes I also would like to deserve her one day to be

> her

> > > > > > companion

> > > > > > > > and helper and learn from her... and yes I hope as I

> feel

> > > > that

> > > > > > she

> > > > > > > > would bring me closer to enlightenment as she has

> > > already.

> > > > For

> > > > > > 8

> > > > > > > > years I have loved constantly and only the next

> antardasha

> > > > may

> > > > > > tell

> > > > > > > > the next part of our adventure, whether my Mercury

(9th

> > > Lord)

> > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > bring some stronger spirituality in me that deserves

to

> > > sit

> > > > with

> > > > > > > her

> > > > > > > > as a companion. She does know how purely I 'see' her

> > > and

> > > > she

> > > > > > > says

> > > > > > > > this is profound and I see her heart hoping.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ANd she is mature and will wait to see what remians

of

> me

> > > > when

> > > > > > > > this 'ilness' has washed through me.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It must be Venus exalted at present. You can see I am

in

> > > > love,

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > for so long deepening more, but the course of my life

as

> > > has

> > > > so

> > > > > > far

> > > > > > > > been holds no promises or guarantees, I will just do

my

> > > > practice

> > > > > > > > daily and see what happens with my deservedness.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So my current goal is both... when I feel my ishta

Devta

> > > near

> > > > > > > > (occasionally) in spirit the lady I mention also

drifts

> > > > > > seemlessly

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > the vision and then I hope even more as ishta Devata

and

> > > > karaka

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > spouse are both Moon.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > She knows I am facing issues and need, and cant avoid

> > > > solitude,

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > so she has asked for us to not meet until March 10

2009

> > > and

> > > > see

> > > > > > > what

> > > > > > > > we have before us then... it tastes so much of a

divine

> > > high

> > > > > > > > romance... I try not to hope and just be in present.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thank you, Your comments will be comforting,

> > > > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > > > Simon

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Pls wait till tomorrow, well, I w'd like to know

> what's

> > > ur

> > > > > > > current

> > > > > > > > > goal, to get enlightened or to get love or to get

> both.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I wish you to get love first and then settle for

> > > > > enlightenment.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > Lalit

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > >

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit & anyone who has read this thread,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Please forgive my impatience in my life, :-) I

> > > understand

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > transits are making my quest for self

understanding

> > > and

> > > > > > teaching

> > > > > > > > > > far too urgent.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Lalit if you wish to comment it might be fun, but

is

> > > > this

> > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > fun

> > > > > > > > > > also? I am far too serious I think?!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > At least I hope I made some people chuckle. I

have a

> > > lot

> > > > to

> > > > > > > learn

> > > > > > > > > > about myself yet. Thankfully I was taught

something

> > > > this

> > > > > > > > morning

> > > > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > > > a tiny bird in the garden!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > > > > > Simon Groves

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > > >

> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, And Sr astrologers,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Please find my chart details:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Appleton (England, UK) 2W33 53N21

> > > > > > > > > > > 11 October 1967

> > > > > > > > > > > 08:48 (am)

> > > > > > > > > > > Daylight Savings +1,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Due to current mental turbulence of planets

> > > transiting

> > > > > over

> > > > > > > > natal

> > > > > > > > > > > Moon's house. I can't, for a little while at

> least,

> > > > enter

> > > > > > > into

> > > > > > > > > > much

> > > > > > > > > > > of the philosophical exchange I like. My

concerns

> > > are

> > > > > > > > practical

> > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > managing karma in the most sensible way for

inner

> > > > growth.

> > > > > > > > Please

> > > > > > > > > > > help me with your experience, it will be

helpful

> to

> > > > talk

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > someone

> > > > > > > > > > > who is especially interested or experienced in

> > > > spiritual

> > > > > > life

> > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > charts.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Lalit thank you, I will be interested to hear

your

> > > > > thoughts

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > feelings - my planets are in...

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Lagna - Chitra

> > > > > > > > > > > Sun (12th) in Chitra (12th House)

> > > > > > > > > > > Ketu (Asc) in Chitra (Ascendent)

> > > > > > > > > > > Mercury (Asc) Swathi

> > > > > > > > > > > Moon (4th) in Uttarashadha

> > > > > > > > > > > Mars (2nd) in Jyestha

> > > > > > > > > > > Saturn (6th) in Uttarabhadrapada

> > > > > > > > > > > Rahu (7th) in Ashwini

> > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter (11th) in Magha

> > > > > > > > > > > Venus (11th) in Magha

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Although it is not appropriate to discuss my

> > > specific

> > > > > > > > > relationship

> > > > > > > > > > > with a lady I mentioned as it is quite a saga of

> > > > support

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > deep

> > > > > > > > > > > friendship... she also has the Ketu ascendent

and

> > > Rahu

> > > > in

> > > > > > 7th.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > The difficulty is the love generated by this

> ongoing

> > > > story

> > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > her... also I experience deep enhancement of my

> > > > spiritual

> > > > > > > > > devotion

> > > > > > > > > > > and experience ... she is a Ketu-Rahu -1-7 axis

> > > > > Sagittarius-

> > > > > > > asc

> > > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > a very potent spiritual chart, with Moon having

> > > > > remarkeable

> > > > > > > > > > Shadbala

> > > > > > > > > > > points in 7th in Gemini. So such a woman brings

> > > my

> > > > > > > questions

> > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > what will be most helpful in my life in respect

of

> > > > > > > > enlightenment

> > > > > > > > > > > goals and relationships to a most important

level.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I don't expect to quieten this testing emotional

> > > > challenge

> > > > > > > > > > > immediately in respect to the lady, as our love

> > > story

> > > > > > > continues

> > > > > > > > > > > toward success or failure in a mysterious way

> > > always,

> > > > and

> > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > > > developed over 8 years. But I practice proper

> > > > meditation

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > just

> > > > > > > > > > go

> > > > > > > > > > > with watching my self as best I can... I feel I

am

> > > > making

> > > > > > > > > progress

> > > > > > > > > > > one step at a time.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Please forgive the use of so many words, with my

> > > > Mercury

> > > > > > > > > placement

> > > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > > find it hard to summarize when I talk of 'me'.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Simon

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > You have not told us about Saturn and Mar's

> > > position

> > > > in

> > > > > > ur

> > > > > > > > > > > horoscope.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Group has experienced Sr astrologers except

for

> > > me,

> > > > > > kindly

> > > > > > > > post

> > > > > > > > > > > full

> > > > > > > > > > > > details of ur's horoscope, both lagna and

> navamsha

> > > > along

> > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > > nakschhtra occupied by planets,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I hope they as well as I will do honest and

> > > sincere

> > > > > > effort

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > look

> > > > > > > > > > > > into ur life.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I have joined here today looking for very

> > > sensitive

> > > > > > > > guidance

> > > > > > > > > on

> > > > > > > > > > > > > my spiritual path. With Rahu-Ketu 7-1 axis,

> > > with

> > > > > Libra

> > > > > > > > > > ascendent

> > > > > > > > > > > > > (mercury with Ketu) and Sun in 12th, my

life

> is

> > > a

> > > > > > > constant

> > > > > > > > > > flow

> > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > lessons, and I am embracing these as I go

> > > through

> > > > > life.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > But in the area of Love, as a Libran these

> > > lessons

> > > > are

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > > > > > > challenging and up until now the most

painful.

> > > I

> > > > have

> > > > > > at

> > > > > > > > > last

> > > > > > > > > > > > fallen

> > > > > > > > > > > > > in Love with someone's Soul, over an 8 year

> > > period

> > > > of

> > > > > > > > getting

> > > > > > > > > > > know

> > > > > > > > > > > > > this person more and more, and yet I have

> > > spritual

> > > > > > > > questions

> > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > > need

> > > > > > > > > > > > > to search answers for in this connection.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > These answers, I believe will come to

> > > realization

> > > > > > through

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > mystery

> > > > > > > > > > > > > of God through my practices but I feel it

> could

> > > > help

> > > > > me

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > resolve

> > > > > > > > > > > > > more in relative action and decision making

in

> > > the

> > > > big

> > > > > > > > swell

> > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > heart

> > > > > > > > > > > > > and spiritual conflict.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Please will a respected guru/teacher

consider

> > > > teaching

> > > > > > me

> > > > > > > > > more

> > > > > > > > > > > > deeply

> > > > > > > > > > > > > about aspects of my chart in respect of

> > > spiritual

> > > > > > > progress

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > journey toward enlightnment. I wish that as

> > > many

> > > > > > > desicions

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > actions I make in life lead to my only true

> > > goals

> > > > of

> > > > > > > inner

> > > > > > > > > > > > > independent happinesss.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I will be happy to meet via messenger or if

> > > > necessary

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > make

> > > > > > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > > > > questions public. Some issues are painful

and

> I

> > > am

> > > > > > > > inclined

> > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > privacy but I would willingly go with what

he

> or

> > > > she

> > > > > > > wishes.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you to the moderator for accepting my

> > > > > application

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > join.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Simon Groves

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Lalit I do like your style of explaining it is very like my way

inside of understanding....

 

So like the way you do this... simple!

 

What you say " you have to stay and be beautiful to the people "

This is the hardest part of all.... and if I had more time I would

explain this...

 

It is hard because Jupiter is not so fussed about beauty.

 

 

Ketu does bring probelms... but....

 

Well at thispoint I feel I should discuss with you privately... it

starts to get too involved....

 

 

Tahnk you for understanding I would like to see your chart...

 

Thanks for your details Iwill open up your chart and I may commnent,

but it will be like a farmer talking about soil.... very basic....

my Jyotish happens inside hwne I look at charts sometimes... silent

and it is only possible to use words in thst moment only...

 

So thank you Lalit.. I do indeed need work on those chakras... at

present thye are all in pain...

 

But after reading your words I feel this is a blessing of Shiva.

 

Best wishes my friend,

Thank you for you time also,

Simon

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

<mishra.lalit wrote:

>

> Dear Simon,

>

> I m pretty good in making typo, read last mail's first para like

this

>

> " though you have got ur 9'th lord well placed in lagna, there is

ketu

> to hinder you "

>

> regards,

> Lalit

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Simon,

> >

> > Now, the difficulties before you - though you have got ur 9'th

lord

> > well placed in lagna, there is ketu to hider you, rahu in 7'th

and

> > 7'th lord mars in 2nd house placed in scorpio, indicates,

> accumulated

> > and sometimes unusual kama - asakti.

> >

> > How u w'd overcome ? either clean it or discharge it.

> >

> > What u need is a shaktipata to correct the function of muladhara

> and

> > swadhisthana chakras and then a consistent and cared push till u

> get

> > experiene of manipura.

> >

> > Why u do meditation for 4 - 5 hours, try observing influx of

> > instincts and to analyse the intensity of sexuality in you, I

> > promise, when u feel, u need a help, that will be there to calm u

> > down and put u on the track.

> >

> > take care,

> > regards,

> > Lalit

> >

> >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Simon,

> > >

> > > Sun in 12'th makes one spend disproportionate energy in pursuit

of

> > > worldly sovereignty or lordship as per the characterisic of

sign

> in

> > > 12'th, The naive wants to feel he is at the helm, some w'd say,

> sun

> > > in 12'th may push to one run after women, or may make one rebel

to

> > > conventional govt rulings etc.. thus gove w'd take away his

wealth

> > > etc, that's why it's not appreciated by astro classics.

> > >

> > > now, come to point - where sun gets solace (vishranti), where he

> > > respites?

> > >

> > > only at 2 places - near his spouce and near his mother.

> > >

> > > so, if we want to undersand the how the sun's placement in 12'th

> > > house is affecting one's life, we should take care of lagna,

lagna

> > > lord, 4'th house and 4'th lord.

> > >

> > > you got moon in 4'th in a earthy sign, so, sun'12 house effect

> get's

> > > some footing, i mean, ur energies will not go in vain, but, 4'th

> > > lord has gone to 6'th house in meena (pisces), and 6'th lord is

> Jup

> > > is conjunct Venus the lagna lord, i had seen it the other day,

> which

> > > helped me to see, u r on the path of transformaion, in

astrology,

> > > 6'th to 6'th house is taken as house of gains, in this house of

> > > gains, you have got ur's lagna lord along with 6'th lord

itself, i

> > > worked on this mystery of life, so, along with the gains that u

> w'd

> > > get easily like wealth and other comforts, major spritual gain

> after

> > > u meet ur guru, is destined for u.

> > >

> > > This guru should not take u to seclusion where u will do

penance

> > > spending life near bonfire in deep forest. u will have to enjoy

ur

> > > life by being beautiful to world around u.

> > >

> > > u wish to know abt the horoscope that destiny has given to me :

> take

> > > down - 17 aug 1972, 20.15 at Rewa, India (24N32,81E18).

> > >

> > > Take Care,

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > simon.groves1@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Lalit,

> > > > >

> > > > > Maybe its a weakness or a strength I dont know, because I

am a

> > > > very

> > > > > restricted scholar of Jyotish as far as holding so many

> > techniques

> > > > in

> > > > > mind... I have become a little jaded...through life's self

> made

> > > > > batterings.

> > > > >

> > > > > But it would be nice to see yur chart if you would share

> > details?

> > > > I

> > > > > cant look deeply into a chart unless I have a close social

> with

> > > > > someone so it will be just to say hello to your chart?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > So how is God good to me? ... well I would say mostly in my

> > > > growing

> > > > > intuition is how god is good to me... because it is in that

> that

> > > > we

> > > > > save ourselves.

> > > > >

> > > > > But in my relative life God is good by bringing lessons

that

> are

> > > > as I

> > > > > could never have imagined... the kind I read in fables and

> epic

> > > > > adventures when I was little...

> > > > >

> > > > > I tell God what kind of Lady I need and so God clicks his

> > fingers

> > > > and

> > > > > seems to bring her to me... he shows me highly compatible

> > > > partners

> > > > > who feel as though I have already lived with them a

> lifetime...

> > > > and

> > > > > yet my issues of transformation, especially the conflict in

my

> > > > chart

> > > > > bewteen Jupiter love and Venus type 'love' are so painful

in

> > body

> > > > as

> > > > > well as mind and heart.

> > > > >

> > > > > I feel with Sun in 12th this is my greatest area of need,

for

> > > > what

> > > > > I want to be FULL in resolution and satisfation of inner

> peace.

> > > > >

> > > > > My practices are moving me in this direction much faster

than

> > > > before

> > > > > I did them... and showing me what I actually want...

> > > > >

> > > > > Before I found Jyotish I belived I wanted to be like Buddha

> and

> > go

> > > > > the whole distance, yet I think " how conceited to think I

> could

> > be

> > > > > like the giant Buddha statues " And then since I am in touch

> with

> > > > > some very very good Jyotish people professionally and in

> > interest,

> > > > I

> > > > > hear some powerful thing about enlightenment possibilities

in

> my

> > > > > chart and I get excited, scared, daunted and hopeful all

> > together.

> > > > >

> > > > > But I just meditate evryday and whatch my old world slowly

> blown

> > > > > apart before my eyes.. I dont know where I am now ... only

> that

> > > > the

> > > > > world is seeming a better place everyday.

> > > > >

> > > > > I would like to hear your opinions and intuitions about how

> MUCH

> > > > the

> > > > > Jupiter - Venus - sex and spirit friction will transfom

> through

> > my

> > > > > spiritual practices. In the eyes of the " west " I am a

celibate

> > > > now,

> > > > > (I just wish to have any more children.) Yet this decision

> > > > although

> > > > > it is right for me, is just the start, made in physical and

> > > > mental

> > > > > action only, the desires of the spirit still drag up

through

> the

> > > > mud

> > > > > of life past in present hangover.

> > > > >

> > > > > This is clearing by every single set of asanas, and

mediation

> I

> > > > do,

> > > > > but the seeking life is also never content on finding

> > > > some " resting

> > > > > place " .

> > > > >

> > > > > God helps me by making things that I used to wish I didnt

> see...

> > > > > including pains and upsetting truths in life around us...

so

> > much

> > > > > more vivid and unescapable, so that if I want to do

something

> > > > which

> > > > > is not in the best spiritual directtion .. like have " just

one

> > > > more

> > > > > beer " HE/She shows me vivid reflections of what the reality

of

> > > > > having that unnesesary extra beer is really about... so I

see

> > the

> > > > > accompanying truthfull vision in some inner image...

> > > > >

> > > > > This is the power of god in my life, and I used to feel it a

> > > > curse,

> > > > > because so far its painful... I am losing attachments in new

> > > > positive

> > > > > aversions to old habits.... and going through the islotaion

> this

> > > > > brings in general life.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Its looking good for me, but I need to always be on top of

my

> > game

> > > > > evry hour of each day so I dont slide.

> > > > >

> > > > > What do you see for advice or general comment in my chart in

> > > > respect

> > > > > of my transormation.... I am told that true mediation wipes

> the

> > > > chart

> > > > > into being made in sand instead of stone... in this respect

> what

> > > > doe

> > > > > sthe chart say on my actula spiritual growth, including the

> > area I

> > > > > mentioned of Jupiter-Venus conflict in love and sex desire?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Whenever you are free is perfect for me, It sounds like you

> are

> > > > > doing good things... All the best with finishing your

project

> > and

> > > > > success with it!

> > > > >

> > > > > Enjoy your chappatis :-)!

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > Simon

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I m happy to receive ur invitation and accept it, I w'd

> visit

> > ur

> > > > > place

> > > > > > when right time comes for it, Let me know first, what

good

> god

> > > > does

> > > > > > for you, for both goals.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have to do analysis for you, not getting enough time, my

> > > > projects

> > > > > > release is scheduled this week and 2nd round of testing

is

> > going

> > > > on.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Well, i m interested to know what's ur business - Are you

in

> > > > > pharama

> > > > > > (medical) or in shipping or doing business of sea

products.

> > what

> > > > > dasha

> > > > > > you are running currently, pls tell that also.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In the astrology we have discovered Yoga Karakas,

Mahapurush

> > > > Yogas,

> > > > > > Raj Yogas etc... but, hardly any study happened to know

Yoga

> > > > > > responsible for triggering transformation of oneself.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Your, horoscope has some similarity with that of Mahtma

> > Gandhi's

> > > > > > horoscope, Let me find out the degree and depth of

> > > > transformation

> > > > > > written for you in the life.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Lalit,

> > > > > > > God bless your dear heart... I was unsure of exactly

where

> > > > you

> > > > > were

> > > > > > > coming from... All I knew is that there was mystery

behind

> > > > your

> > > > > > > message.. and only that it came from a pure heart's

> place...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > An of course you can imagine why I foolishly ask

you " did

> > you

> > > > get

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > girl lalit? " but that is just an interest in a film...

my

> > > > > weakness.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Outside this Lalit.. in your message today... to bear

your

> > > > Soul

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > this message is touching to my painul heart... and I

aslo

> > have

> > > > an

> > > > > > > astounding TM teacher who is able to " say " go way and I

> love

> > > > you

> > > > > my

> > > > > > > son, metaphorically in the same sentence... I am

blessed

> to

> > > > > receive

> > > > > > > friends like you... and this recluse I am... who hides

so

> > much

> > > > in

> > > > > > his

> > > > > > > room would welcome you with tea or water and whatevr

you

> > like

> > > > a

> > > > > good

> > > > > > > wholesome meal on any day of the week...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So take that please as an open invitation... I live at

> > presnt

> > > > > with

> > > > > > my

> > > > > > > parents... and when I tell them what you shared... they

> will

> > > > > welcome

> > > > > > > you at anytime I know...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Outside of this I will be very happy to specifically

hear

> > you

> > > > > > thought

> > > > > > > and feelings on my chart.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thank you for understanding how head functions and

> heart.. I

> > > > am

> > > > > > > waiting and waiting :-)... but I feel the day is coming

> > > > relively

> > > > > > soon

> > > > > > > gainst the backdrop of my life.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Natal Mars has too many words,

> > > > > > > so with Moon in transit there,

> > > > > > > Thank you,

> > > > > > > I must go and lie down, because you have seen my whole

> > > > story...

> > > > > > thank

> > > > > > > you,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I feel like saying in this moment, just to my personal

> > > > taste....

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Jai Guru Dev

> > > > > > > Simon

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Love in duality can transform to love in non duality.

> > > > > > > > She is lucky that there is somebody who loves her

this

> > much.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In your case, I can suggest you to walk towards the

> > > > > selflessness ,

> > > > > > > > such a selflessness makes u blissful, gives internal

> > delight

> > > > > when

> > > > > > u

> > > > > > > > perceive in the external world ur emotions are not

> > > > reciprocal,

> > > > > why

> > > > > > > > so, coz, that's mere a perception.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > when u feel delighted with no cause for that, and can

> see

> > > > > urself

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > other beings heart, u become successful in ur love. u

> > should

> > > > > find

> > > > > > > > urself in other's heart ... !!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Right now, You find her in ur heart, this is half of

the

> > > > whole

> > > > > > > > chemistry.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > when i was in my twenties, I undergone same phase of

> life

> > > > that

> > > > > u r

> > > > > > > > undsergoing today, I could get God's vision, could

> speak

> > to

> > > > God

> > > > > at

> > > > > > > > his will and sometimes i felt at my will also, could

> > insist

> > > > to

> > > > > God

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > get things as per my wishes ...., I didn't know where

> that

> > > > girl

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > living and i had no communication with her, was not

> > knowing

> > > > her

> > > > > > > cell

> > > > > > > > no but i wanted to have a glimpse of her, wanted to

meet

> > > > her, i

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > meeting, How, I was asking God, where she will come

> today,

> > > > and

> > > > > > > going

> > > > > > > > to the place echoing within in answers to questions

> that i

> > > > was

> > > > > > > asking

> > > > > > > > to God, and without any failure i was meeting her.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Though, I could see the God, I couldn't generate same

> love

> > > > in

> > > > > her

> > > > > > > > heart ....... i was in deep pain, I was thinking I m

in

> > > > love,

> > > > > no,

> > > > > > i

> > > > > > > > was not, in fact, I was loving my expectations of

being

> > > > close

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > her,

> > > > > > > > expectations of her knowing how special she is for

> me ...

> > > > etc...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > True love happens within, no external object is

> required.

> > > > make

> > > > > > > urself

> > > > > > > > free from expectations, then there is enlightenments

and

> > > > love

> > > > > > > > togather.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > but, whatever it is, whatever i m saying to you, I

wish

> > the

> > > > God

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > > make u happy in love.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Will speak astrologically little later.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > Lalit

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Bless you Lalit,

> > > > > > > > > I tell you I never in all my days dreamed a woman

> could

> > > > > capture

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > mans heart the way this lady has, she has broken me

> > when I

> > > > > > needed

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > break, built me up when I was down, and all with

> spirit

> > > > > alone,

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > course with eyes to melt the heart of my feeling.

It

> is

> > > > her

> > > > > > > sight

> > > > > > > > > that takes my breath away and almost absolute

modesty

> > and

> > > > > simple

> > > > > > > > Moon

> > > > > > > > > spirit. In her company I am in church with holy

water

> > > > and a

> > > > > > > font.

> > > > > > > > > I feel her as the ishta Devta I struggle to

worship,

> > Maha

> > > > > Durga.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I will wait until I hear from you, and thank you

for

> > what

> > > > is

> > > > > > your

> > > > > > > > > romantic heart also in wishing I 'get the girl' and

> then

> > > > > > > > > enlightenment... but isnt that what we all wish

when

> we

> > > > watch

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > > film?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > It is what I wish also because I honestly did not

know

> > > > that

> > > > > > > another

> > > > > > > > > human can transform anothers life so deeply inside,

> > > > bringing

> > > > > me

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > face the most beutiful and uncomfortable truths of

my

> > > > > journey.

> > > > > > > And

> > > > > > > > > so in my heart I wish one day to protect her, as

her

> > karma

> > > > is

> > > > > > > > > difficult often and Shani also brings her sparse

> living,

> > > > and

> > > > > > > still

> > > > > > > > > she is holy in respect. I wish to protect her from

the

> > > > > > lonliness

> > > > > > > > > that she treads as a seeker in an English society

> where

> > > > her

> > > > > > gifts

> > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > most often seen as " odd " " wierd " etc...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > So yes I also would like to deserve her one day to

be

> > her

> > > > > > > companion

> > > > > > > > > and helper and learn from her... and yes I hope as

I

> > feel

> > > > > that

> > > > > > > she

> > > > > > > > > would bring me closer to enlightenment as she has

> > > > already.

> > > > > For

> > > > > > > 8

> > > > > > > > > years I have loved constantly and only the next

> > antardasha

> > > > > may

> > > > > > > tell

> > > > > > > > > the next part of our adventure, whether my Mercury

> (9th

> > > > Lord)

> > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > bring some stronger spirituality in me that

deserves

> to

> > > > sit

> > > > > with

> > > > > > > > her

> > > > > > > > > as a companion. She does know how purely I 'see' her

> > > > and

> > > > > she

> > > > > > > > says

> > > > > > > > > this is profound and I see her heart hoping.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ANd she is mature and will wait to see what remians

> of

> > me

> > > > > when

> > > > > > > > > this 'ilness' has washed through me.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > It must be Venus exalted at present. You can see I

am

> in

> > > > > love,

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > for so long deepening more, but the course of my

life

> as

> > > > has

> > > > > so

> > > > > > > far

> > > > > > > > > been holds no promises or guarantees, I will just

do

> my

> > > > > practice

> > > > > > > > > daily and see what happens with my deservedness.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > So my current goal is both... when I feel my ishta

> Devta

> > > > near

> > > > > > > > > (occasionally) in spirit the lady I mention also

> drifts

> > > > > > > seemlessly

> > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > the vision and then I hope even more as ishta

Devata

> and

> > > > > karaka

> > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > spouse are both Moon.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > She knows I am facing issues and need, and cant

avoid

> > > > > solitude,

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > so she has asked for us to not meet until March 10

> 2009

> > > > and

> > > > > see

> > > > > > > > what

> > > > > > > > > we have before us then... it tastes so much of a

> divine

> > > > high

> > > > > > > > > romance... I try not to hope and just be in present.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thank you, Your comments will be comforting,

> > > > > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > > > > Simon

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Pls wait till tomorrow, well, I w'd like to know

> > what's

> > > > ur

> > > > > > > > current

> > > > > > > > > > goal, to get enlightened or to get love or to get

> > both.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I wish you to get love first and then settle for

> > > > > > enlightenment.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Lalit

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > > >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit & anyone who has read this thread,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Please forgive my impatience in my life, :-) I

> > > > understand

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > transits are making my quest for self

> understanding

> > > > and

> > > > > > > teaching

> > > > > > > > > > > far too urgent.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Lalit if you wish to comment it might be fun,

but

> is

> > > > > this

> > > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > > fun

> > > > > > > > > > > also? I am far too serious I think?!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > At least I hope I made some people chuckle. I

> have a

> > > > lot

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > > learn

> > > > > > > > > > > about myself yet. Thankfully I was taught

> something

> > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > morning

> > > > > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > > > > a tiny bird in the garden!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > > > > > > Simon Groves

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, And Sr astrologers,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Please find my chart details:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Appleton (England, UK) 2W33 53N21

> > > > > > > > > > > > 11 October 1967

> > > > > > > > > > > > 08:48 (am)

> > > > > > > > > > > > Daylight Savings +1,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Due to current mental turbulence of planets

> > > > transiting

> > > > > > over

> > > > > > > > > natal

> > > > > > > > > > > > Moon's house. I can't, for a little while at

> > least,

> > > > > enter

> > > > > > > > into

> > > > > > > > > > > much

> > > > > > > > > > > > of the philosophical exchange I like. My

> concerns

> > > > are

> > > > > > > > > practical

> > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > managing karma in the most sensible way for

> inner

> > > > > growth.

> > > > > > > > > Please

> > > > > > > > > > > > help me with your experience, it will be

> helpful

> > to

> > > > > talk

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > someone

> > > > > > > > > > > > who is especially interested or experienced in

> > > > > spiritual

> > > > > > > life

> > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > charts.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit thank you, I will be interested to hear

> your

> > > > > > thoughts

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > feelings - my planets are in...

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna - Chitra

> > > > > > > > > > > > Sun (12th) in Chitra (12th House)

> > > > > > > > > > > > Ketu (Asc) in Chitra (Ascendent)

> > > > > > > > > > > > Mercury (Asc) Swathi

> > > > > > > > > > > > Moon (4th) in Uttarashadha

> > > > > > > > > > > > Mars (2nd) in Jyestha

> > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn (6th) in Uttarabhadrapada

> > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu (7th) in Ashwini

> > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter (11th) in Magha

> > > > > > > > > > > > Venus (11th) in Magha

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Although it is not appropriate to discuss my

> > > > specific

> > > > > > > > > > relationship

> > > > > > > > > > > > with a lady I mentioned as it is quite a saga

of

> > > > > support

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > deep

> > > > > > > > > > > > friendship... she also has the Ketu ascendent

> and

> > > > Rahu

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > 7th.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > The difficulty is the love generated by this

> > ongoing

> > > > > story

> > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > > her... also I experience deep enhancement of

my

> > > > > spiritual

> > > > > > > > > > devotion

> > > > > > > > > > > > and experience ... she is a Ketu-Rahu -1-7

axis

> > > > > > Sagittarius-

> > > > > > > > asc

> > > > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > > a very potent spiritual chart, with Moon

having

> > > > > > remarkeable

> > > > > > > > > > > Shadbala

> > > > > > > > > > > > points in 7th in Gemini. So such a woman

brings

> > > > my

> > > > > > > > questions

> > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > what will be most helpful in my life in

respect

> of

> > > > > > > > > enlightenment

> > > > > > > > > > > > goals and relationships to a most important

> level.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I don't expect to quieten this testing

emotional

> > > > > challenge

> > > > > > > > > > > > immediately in respect to the lady, as our

love

> > > > story

> > > > > > > > continues

> > > > > > > > > > > > toward success or failure in a mysterious way

> > > > always,

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > > > > developed over 8 years. But I practice proper

> > > > > meditation

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > just

> > > > > > > > > > > go

> > > > > > > > > > > > with watching my self as best I can... I feel

I

> am

> > > > > making

> > > > > > > > > > progress

> > > > > > > > > > > > one step at a time.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Please forgive the use of so many words, with

my

> > > > > Mercury

> > > > > > > > > > placement

> > > > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > > > find it hard to summarize when I talk of 'me'.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Simon

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > You have not told us about Saturn and Mar's

> > > > position

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > ur

> > > > > > > > > > > > horoscope.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Group has experienced Sr astrologers except

> for

> > > > me,

> > > > > > > kindly

> > > > > > > > > post

> > > > > > > > > > > > full

> > > > > > > > > > > > > details of ur's horoscope, both lagna and

> > navamsha

> > > > > along

> > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > > > nakschhtra occupied by planets,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope they as well as I will do honest and

> > > > sincere

> > > > > > > effort

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > look

> > > > > > > > > > > > > into ur life.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have joined here today looking for very

> > > > sensitive

> > > > > > > > > guidance

> > > > > > > > > > on

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > my spiritual path. With Rahu-Ketu 7-1

axis,

> > > > with

> > > > > > Libra

> > > > > > > > > > > ascendent

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (mercury with Ketu) and Sun in 12th, my

> life

> > is

> > > > a

> > > > > > > > constant

> > > > > > > > > > > flow

> > > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > lessons, and I am embracing these as I go

> > > > through

> > > > > > life.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > But in the area of Love, as a Libran these

> > > > lessons

> > > > > are

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > challenging and up until now the most

> painful.

> > > > I

> > > > > have

> > > > > > > at

> > > > > > > > > > last

> > > > > > > > > > > > > fallen

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in Love with someone's Soul, over an 8

year

> > > > period

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > getting

> > > > > > > > > > > > know

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > this person more and more, and yet I have

> > > > spritual

> > > > > > > > > questions

> > > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > > > need

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to search answers for in this connection.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > These answers, I believe will come to

> > > > realization

> > > > > > > through

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > mystery

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of God through my practices but I feel it

> > could

> > > > > help

> > > > > > me

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > resolve

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > more in relative action and decision

making

> in

> > > > the

> > > > > big

> > > > > > > > > swell

> > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > heart

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and spiritual conflict.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please will a respected guru/teacher

> consider

> > > > > teaching

> > > > > > > me

> > > > > > > > > > more

> > > > > > > > > > > > > deeply

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > about aspects of my chart in respect of

> > > > spiritual

> > > > > > > > progress

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > journey toward enlightnment. I wish that

as

> > > > many

> > > > > > > > desicions

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > actions I make in life lead to my only

true

> > > > goals

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > inner

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > independent happinesss.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will be happy to meet via messenger or

if

> > > > > necessary

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > make

> > > > > > > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > questions public. Some issues are painful

> and

> > I

> > > > am

> > > > > > > > > inclined

> > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > privacy but I would willingly go with

what

> he

> > or

> > > > > she

> > > > > > > > wishes.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you to the moderator for accepting

my

> > > > > > application

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > join.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Simon Groves

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Lalit,

 

 

your words are accurate... Since I met my guru even his words cause

growth... it i sthe most unusual thing... to give you an idea... he

is in his 70s and has Jupiter and Ketu in ascendent... I will not

share more of his chart... he just chuckles...

 

 

I am exhausted right now so I will write to you again when I am

feeling more restored.

 

But yur words wre very good and helpful...

 

Maybe one day we will chat?

 

Simon

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

<mishra.lalit wrote:

>

> Dear Simon,

>

> I m pretty good in making typo, read last mail's first para like

this

>

> " though you have got ur 9'th lord well placed in lagna, there is

ketu

> to hinder you "

>

> regards,

> Lalit

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Simon,

> >

> > Now, the difficulties before you - though you have got ur 9'th

lord

> > well placed in lagna, there is ketu to hider you, rahu in 7'th

and

> > 7'th lord mars in 2nd house placed in scorpio, indicates,

> accumulated

> > and sometimes unusual kama - asakti.

> >

> > How u w'd overcome ? either clean it or discharge it.

> >

> > What u need is a shaktipata to correct the function of muladhara

> and

> > swadhisthana chakras and then a consistent and cared push till u

> get

> > experiene of manipura.

> >

> > Why u do meditation for 4 - 5 hours, try observing influx of

> > instincts and to analyse the intensity of sexuality in you, I

> > promise, when u feel, u need a help, that will be there to calm u

> > down and put u on the track.

> >

> > take care,

> > regards,

> > Lalit

> >

> >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Simon,

> > >

> > > Sun in 12'th makes one spend disproportionate energy in pursuit

of

> > > worldly sovereignty or lordship as per the characterisic of

sign

> in

> > > 12'th, The naive wants to feel he is at the helm, some w'd say,

> sun

> > > in 12'th may push to one run after women, or may make one rebel

to

> > > conventional govt rulings etc.. thus gove w'd take away his

wealth

> > > etc, that's why it's not appreciated by astro classics.

> > >

> > > now, come to point - where sun gets solace (vishranti), where he

> > > respites?

> > >

> > > only at 2 places - near his spouce and near his mother.

> > >

> > > so, if we want to undersand the how the sun's placement in 12'th

> > > house is affecting one's life, we should take care of lagna,

lagna

> > > lord, 4'th house and 4'th lord.

> > >

> > > you got moon in 4'th in a earthy sign, so, sun'12 house effect

> get's

> > > some footing, i mean, ur energies will not go in vain, but, 4'th

> > > lord has gone to 6'th house in meena (pisces), and 6'th lord is

> Jup

> > > is conjunct Venus the lagna lord, i had seen it the other day,

> which

> > > helped me to see, u r on the path of transformaion, in

astrology,

> > > 6'th to 6'th house is taken as house of gains, in this house of

> > > gains, you have got ur's lagna lord along with 6'th lord

itself, i

> > > worked on this mystery of life, so, along with the gains that u

> w'd

> > > get easily like wealth and other comforts, major spritual gain

> after

> > > u meet ur guru, is destined for u.

> > >

> > > This guru should not take u to seclusion where u will do

penance

> > > spending life near bonfire in deep forest. u will have to enjoy

ur

> > > life by being beautiful to world around u.

> > >

> > > u wish to know abt the horoscope that destiny has given to me :

> take

> > > down - 17 aug 1972, 20.15 at Rewa, India (24N32,81E18).

> > >

> > > Take Care,

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > simon.groves1@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Lalit,

> > > > >

> > > > > Maybe its a weakness or a strength I dont know, because I

am a

> > > > very

> > > > > restricted scholar of Jyotish as far as holding so many

> > techniques

> > > > in

> > > > > mind... I have become a little jaded...through life's self

> made

> > > > > batterings.

> > > > >

> > > > > But it would be nice to see yur chart if you would share

> > details?

> > > > I

> > > > > cant look deeply into a chart unless I have a close social

> with

> > > > > someone so it will be just to say hello to your chart?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > So how is God good to me? ... well I would say mostly in my

> > > > growing

> > > > > intuition is how god is good to me... because it is in that

> that

> > > > we

> > > > > save ourselves.

> > > > >

> > > > > But in my relative life God is good by bringing lessons

that

> are

> > > > as I

> > > > > could never have imagined... the kind I read in fables and

> epic

> > > > > adventures when I was little...

> > > > >

> > > > > I tell God what kind of Lady I need and so God clicks his

> > fingers

> > > > and

> > > > > seems to bring her to me... he shows me highly compatible

> > > > partners

> > > > > who feel as though I have already lived with them a

> lifetime...

> > > > and

> > > > > yet my issues of transformation, especially the conflict in

my

> > > > chart

> > > > > bewteen Jupiter love and Venus type 'love' are so painful

in

> > body

> > > > as

> > > > > well as mind and heart.

> > > > >

> > > > > I feel with Sun in 12th this is my greatest area of need,

for

> > > > what

> > > > > I want to be FULL in resolution and satisfation of inner

> peace.

> > > > >

> > > > > My practices are moving me in this direction much faster

than

> > > > before

> > > > > I did them... and showing me what I actually want...

> > > > >

> > > > > Before I found Jyotish I belived I wanted to be like Buddha

> and

> > go

> > > > > the whole distance, yet I think " how conceited to think I

> could

> > be

> > > > > like the giant Buddha statues " And then since I am in touch

> with

> > > > > some very very good Jyotish people professionally and in

> > interest,

> > > > I

> > > > > hear some powerful thing about enlightenment possibilities

in

> my

> > > > > chart and I get excited, scared, daunted and hopeful all

> > together.

> > > > >

> > > > > But I just meditate evryday and whatch my old world slowly

> blown

> > > > > apart before my eyes.. I dont know where I am now ... only

> that

> > > > the

> > > > > world is seeming a better place everyday.

> > > > >

> > > > > I would like to hear your opinions and intuitions about how

> MUCH

> > > > the

> > > > > Jupiter - Venus - sex and spirit friction will transfom

> through

> > my

> > > > > spiritual practices. In the eyes of the " west " I am a

celibate

> > > > now,

> > > > > (I just wish to have any more children.) Yet this decision

> > > > although

> > > > > it is right for me, is just the start, made in physical and

> > > > mental

> > > > > action only, the desires of the spirit still drag up

through

> the

> > > > mud

> > > > > of life past in present hangover.

> > > > >

> > > > > This is clearing by every single set of asanas, and

mediation

> I

> > > > do,

> > > > > but the seeking life is also never content on finding

> > > > some " resting

> > > > > place " .

> > > > >

> > > > > God helps me by making things that I used to wish I didnt

> see...

> > > > > including pains and upsetting truths in life around us...

so

> > much

> > > > > more vivid and unescapable, so that if I want to do

something

> > > > which

> > > > > is not in the best spiritual directtion .. like have " just

one

> > > > more

> > > > > beer " HE/She shows me vivid reflections of what the reality

of

> > > > > having that unnesesary extra beer is really about... so I

see

> > the

> > > > > accompanying truthfull vision in some inner image...

> > > > >

> > > > > This is the power of god in my life, and I used to feel it a

> > > > curse,

> > > > > because so far its painful... I am losing attachments in new

> > > > positive

> > > > > aversions to old habits.... and going through the islotaion

> this

> > > > > brings in general life.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Its looking good for me, but I need to always be on top of

my

> > game

> > > > > evry hour of each day so I dont slide.

> > > > >

> > > > > What do you see for advice or general comment in my chart in

> > > > respect

> > > > > of my transormation.... I am told that true mediation wipes

> the

> > > > chart

> > > > > into being made in sand instead of stone... in this respect

> what

> > > > doe

> > > > > sthe chart say on my actula spiritual growth, including the

> > area I

> > > > > mentioned of Jupiter-Venus conflict in love and sex desire?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Whenever you are free is perfect for me, It sounds like you

> are

> > > > > doing good things... All the best with finishing your

project

> > and

> > > > > success with it!

> > > > >

> > > > > Enjoy your chappatis :-)!

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > Simon

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I m happy to receive ur invitation and accept it, I w'd

> visit

> > ur

> > > > > place

> > > > > > when right time comes for it, Let me know first, what

good

> god

> > > > does

> > > > > > for you, for both goals.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have to do analysis for you, not getting enough time, my

> > > > projects

> > > > > > release is scheduled this week and 2nd round of testing

is

> > going

> > > > on.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Well, i m interested to know what's ur business - Are you

in

> > > > > pharama

> > > > > > (medical) or in shipping or doing business of sea

products.

> > what

> > > > > dasha

> > > > > > you are running currently, pls tell that also.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In the astrology we have discovered Yoga Karakas,

Mahapurush

> > > > Yogas,

> > > > > > Raj Yogas etc... but, hardly any study happened to know

Yoga

> > > > > > responsible for triggering transformation of oneself.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Your, horoscope has some similarity with that of Mahtma

> > Gandhi's

> > > > > > horoscope, Let me find out the degree and depth of

> > > > transformation

> > > > > > written for you in the life.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Lalit,

> > > > > > > God bless your dear heart... I was unsure of exactly

where

> > > > you

> > > > > were

> > > > > > > coming from... All I knew is that there was mystery

behind

> > > > your

> > > > > > > message.. and only that it came from a pure heart's

> place...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > An of course you can imagine why I foolishly ask

you " did

> > you

> > > > get

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > girl lalit? " but that is just an interest in a film...

my

> > > > > weakness.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Outside this Lalit.. in your message today... to bear

your

> > > > Soul

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > this message is touching to my painul heart... and I

aslo

> > have

> > > > an

> > > > > > > astounding TM teacher who is able to " say " go way and I

> love

> > > > you

> > > > > my

> > > > > > > son, metaphorically in the same sentence... I am

blessed

> to

> > > > > receive

> > > > > > > friends like you... and this recluse I am... who hides

so

> > much

> > > > in

> > > > > > his

> > > > > > > room would welcome you with tea or water and whatevr

you

> > like

> > > > a

> > > > > good

> > > > > > > wholesome meal on any day of the week...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So take that please as an open invitation... I live at

> > presnt

> > > > > with

> > > > > > my

> > > > > > > parents... and when I tell them what you shared... they

> will

> > > > > welcome

> > > > > > > you at anytime I know...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Outside of this I will be very happy to specifically

hear

> > you

> > > > > > thought

> > > > > > > and feelings on my chart.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thank you for understanding how head functions and

> heart.. I

> > > > am

> > > > > > > waiting and waiting :-)... but I feel the day is coming

> > > > relively

> > > > > > soon

> > > > > > > gainst the backdrop of my life.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Natal Mars has too many words,

> > > > > > > so with Moon in transit there,

> > > > > > > Thank you,

> > > > > > > I must go and lie down, because you have seen my whole

> > > > story...

> > > > > > thank

> > > > > > > you,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I feel like saying in this moment, just to my personal

> > > > taste....

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Jai Guru Dev

> > > > > > > Simon

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Love in duality can transform to love in non duality.

> > > > > > > > She is lucky that there is somebody who loves her

this

> > much.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In your case, I can suggest you to walk towards the

> > > > > selflessness ,

> > > > > > > > such a selflessness makes u blissful, gives internal

> > delight

> > > > > when

> > > > > > u

> > > > > > > > perceive in the external world ur emotions are not

> > > > reciprocal,

> > > > > why

> > > > > > > > so, coz, that's mere a perception.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > when u feel delighted with no cause for that, and can

> see

> > > > > urself

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > other beings heart, u become successful in ur love. u

> > should

> > > > > find

> > > > > > > > urself in other's heart ... !!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Right now, You find her in ur heart, this is half of

the

> > > > whole

> > > > > > > > chemistry.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > when i was in my twenties, I undergone same phase of

> life

> > > > that

> > > > > u r

> > > > > > > > undsergoing today, I could get God's vision, could

> speak

> > to

> > > > God

> > > > > at

> > > > > > > > his will and sometimes i felt at my will also, could

> > insist

> > > > to

> > > > > God

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > get things as per my wishes ...., I didn't know where

> that

> > > > girl

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > living and i had no communication with her, was not

> > knowing

> > > > her

> > > > > > > cell

> > > > > > > > no but i wanted to have a glimpse of her, wanted to

meet

> > > > her, i

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > meeting, How, I was asking God, where she will come

> today,

> > > > and

> > > > > > > going

> > > > > > > > to the place echoing within in answers to questions

> that i

> > > > was

> > > > > > > asking

> > > > > > > > to God, and without any failure i was meeting her.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Though, I could see the God, I couldn't generate same

> love

> > > > in

> > > > > her

> > > > > > > > heart ....... i was in deep pain, I was thinking I m

in

> > > > love,

> > > > > no,

> > > > > > i

> > > > > > > > was not, in fact, I was loving my expectations of

being

> > > > close

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > her,

> > > > > > > > expectations of her knowing how special she is for

> me ...

> > > > etc...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > True love happens within, no external object is

> required.

> > > > make

> > > > > > > urself

> > > > > > > > free from expectations, then there is enlightenments

and

> > > > love

> > > > > > > > togather.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > but, whatever it is, whatever i m saying to you, I

wish

> > the

> > > > God

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > > make u happy in love.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Will speak astrologically little later.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > Lalit

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Bless you Lalit,

> > > > > > > > > I tell you I never in all my days dreamed a woman

> could

> > > > > capture

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > mans heart the way this lady has, she has broken me

> > when I

> > > > > > needed

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > break, built me up when I was down, and all with

> spirit

> > > > > alone,

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > course with eyes to melt the heart of my feeling.

It

> is

> > > > her

> > > > > > > sight

> > > > > > > > > that takes my breath away and almost absolute

modesty

> > and

> > > > > simple

> > > > > > > > Moon

> > > > > > > > > spirit. In her company I am in church with holy

water

> > > > and a

> > > > > > > font.

> > > > > > > > > I feel her as the ishta Devta I struggle to

worship,

> > Maha

> > > > > Durga.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I will wait until I hear from you, and thank you

for

> > what

> > > > is

> > > > > > your

> > > > > > > > > romantic heart also in wishing I 'get the girl' and

> then

> > > > > > > > > enlightenment... but isnt that what we all wish

when

> we

> > > > watch

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > > film?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > It is what I wish also because I honestly did not

know

> > > > that

> > > > > > > another

> > > > > > > > > human can transform anothers life so deeply inside,

> > > > bringing

> > > > > me

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > face the most beutiful and uncomfortable truths of

my

> > > > > journey.

> > > > > > > And

> > > > > > > > > so in my heart I wish one day to protect her, as

her

> > karma

> > > > is

> > > > > > > > > difficult often and Shani also brings her sparse

> living,

> > > > and

> > > > > > > still

> > > > > > > > > she is holy in respect. I wish to protect her from

the

> > > > > > lonliness

> > > > > > > > > that she treads as a seeker in an English society

> where

> > > > her

> > > > > > gifts

> > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > most often seen as " odd " " wierd " etc...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > So yes I also would like to deserve her one day to

be

> > her

> > > > > > > companion

> > > > > > > > > and helper and learn from her... and yes I hope as

I

> > feel

> > > > > that

> > > > > > > she

> > > > > > > > > would bring me closer to enlightenment as she has

> > > > already.

> > > > > For

> > > > > > > 8

> > > > > > > > > years I have loved constantly and only the next

> > antardasha

> > > > > may

> > > > > > > tell

> > > > > > > > > the next part of our adventure, whether my Mercury

> (9th

> > > > Lord)

> > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > bring some stronger spirituality in me that

deserves

> to

> > > > sit

> > > > > with

> > > > > > > > her

> > > > > > > > > as a companion. She does know how purely I 'see' her

> > > > and

> > > > > she

> > > > > > > > says

> > > > > > > > > this is profound and I see her heart hoping.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ANd she is mature and will wait to see what remians

> of

> > me

> > > > > when

> > > > > > > > > this 'ilness' has washed through me.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > It must be Venus exalted at present. You can see I

am

> in

> > > > > love,

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > for so long deepening more, but the course of my

life

> as

> > > > has

> > > > > so

> > > > > > > far

> > > > > > > > > been holds no promises or guarantees, I will just

do

> my

> > > > > practice

> > > > > > > > > daily and see what happens with my deservedness.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > So my current goal is both... when I feel my ishta

> Devta

> > > > near

> > > > > > > > > (occasionally) in spirit the lady I mention also

> drifts

> > > > > > > seemlessly

> > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > the vision and then I hope even more as ishta

Devata

> and

> > > > > karaka

> > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > spouse are both Moon.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > She knows I am facing issues and need, and cant

avoid

> > > > > solitude,

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > so she has asked for us to not meet until March 10

> 2009

> > > > and

> > > > > see

> > > > > > > > what

> > > > > > > > > we have before us then... it tastes so much of a

> divine

> > > > high

> > > > > > > > > romance... I try not to hope and just be in present.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thank you, Your comments will be comforting,

> > > > > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > > > > Simon

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Pls wait till tomorrow, well, I w'd like to know

> > what's

> > > > ur

> > > > > > > > current

> > > > > > > > > > goal, to get enlightened or to get love or to get

> > both.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I wish you to get love first and then settle for

> > > > > > enlightenment.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Lalit

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > > >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit & anyone who has read this thread,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Please forgive my impatience in my life, :-) I

> > > > understand

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > transits are making my quest for self

> understanding

> > > > and

> > > > > > > teaching

> > > > > > > > > > > far too urgent.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Lalit if you wish to comment it might be fun,

but

> is

> > > > > this

> > > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > > fun

> > > > > > > > > > > also? I am far too serious I think?!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > At least I hope I made some people chuckle. I

> have a

> > > > lot

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > > learn

> > > > > > > > > > > about myself yet. Thankfully I was taught

> something

> > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > morning

> > > > > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > > > > a tiny bird in the garden!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > > > > > > Simon Groves

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, And Sr astrologers,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Please find my chart details:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Appleton (England, UK) 2W33 53N21

> > > > > > > > > > > > 11 October 1967

> > > > > > > > > > > > 08:48 (am)

> > > > > > > > > > > > Daylight Savings +1,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Due to current mental turbulence of planets

> > > > transiting

> > > > > > over

> > > > > > > > > natal

> > > > > > > > > > > > Moon's house. I can't, for a little while at

> > least,

> > > > > enter

> > > > > > > > into

> > > > > > > > > > > much

> > > > > > > > > > > > of the philosophical exchange I like. My

> concerns

> > > > are

> > > > > > > > > practical

> > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > managing karma in the most sensible way for

> inner

> > > > > growth.

> > > > > > > > > Please

> > > > > > > > > > > > help me with your experience, it will be

> helpful

> > to

> > > > > talk

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > someone

> > > > > > > > > > > > who is especially interested or experienced in

> > > > > spiritual

> > > > > > > life

> > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > charts.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit thank you, I will be interested to hear

> your

> > > > > > thoughts

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > feelings - my planets are in...

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna - Chitra

> > > > > > > > > > > > Sun (12th) in Chitra (12th House)

> > > > > > > > > > > > Ketu (Asc) in Chitra (Ascendent)

> > > > > > > > > > > > Mercury (Asc) Swathi

> > > > > > > > > > > > Moon (4th) in Uttarashadha

> > > > > > > > > > > > Mars (2nd) in Jyestha

> > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn (6th) in Uttarabhadrapada

> > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu (7th) in Ashwini

> > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter (11th) in Magha

> > > > > > > > > > > > Venus (11th) in Magha

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Although it is not appropriate to discuss my

> > > > specific

> > > > > > > > > > relationship

> > > > > > > > > > > > with a lady I mentioned as it is quite a saga

of

> > > > > support

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > deep

> > > > > > > > > > > > friendship... she also has the Ketu ascendent

> and

> > > > Rahu

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > 7th.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > The difficulty is the love generated by this

> > ongoing

> > > > > story

> > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > > her... also I experience deep enhancement of

my

> > > > > spiritual

> > > > > > > > > > devotion

> > > > > > > > > > > > and experience ... she is a Ketu-Rahu -1-7

axis

> > > > > > Sagittarius-

> > > > > > > > asc

> > > > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > > a very potent spiritual chart, with Moon

having

> > > > > > remarkeable

> > > > > > > > > > > Shadbala

> > > > > > > > > > > > points in 7th in Gemini. So such a woman

brings

> > > > my

> > > > > > > > questions

> > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > what will be most helpful in my life in

respect

> of

> > > > > > > > > enlightenment

> > > > > > > > > > > > goals and relationships to a most important

> level.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I don't expect to quieten this testing

emotional

> > > > > challenge

> > > > > > > > > > > > immediately in respect to the lady, as our

love

> > > > story

> > > > > > > > continues

> > > > > > > > > > > > toward success or failure in a mysterious way

> > > > always,

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > > > > developed over 8 years. But I practice proper

> > > > > meditation

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > just

> > > > > > > > > > > go

> > > > > > > > > > > > with watching my self as best I can... I feel

I

> am

> > > > > making

> > > > > > > > > > progress

> > > > > > > > > > > > one step at a time.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Please forgive the use of so many words, with

my

> > > > > Mercury

> > > > > > > > > > placement

> > > > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > > > find it hard to summarize when I talk of 'me'.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Simon

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > You have not told us about Saturn and Mar's

> > > > position

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > ur

> > > > > > > > > > > > horoscope.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Group has experienced Sr astrologers except

> for

> > > > me,

> > > > > > > kindly

> > > > > > > > > post

> > > > > > > > > > > > full

> > > > > > > > > > > > > details of ur's horoscope, both lagna and

> > navamsha

> > > > > along

> > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > > > nakschhtra occupied by planets,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope they as well as I will do honest and

> > > > sincere

> > > > > > > effort

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > look

> > > > > > > > > > > > > into ur life.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have joined here today looking for very

> > > > sensitive

> > > > > > > > > guidance

> > > > > > > > > > on

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > my spiritual path. With Rahu-Ketu 7-1

axis,

> > > > with

> > > > > > Libra

> > > > > > > > > > > ascendent

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (mercury with Ketu) and Sun in 12th, my

> life

> > is

> > > > a

> > > > > > > > constant

> > > > > > > > > > > flow

> > > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > lessons, and I am embracing these as I go

> > > > through

> > > > > > life.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > But in the area of Love, as a Libran these

> > > > lessons

> > > > > are

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > challenging and up until now the most

> painful.

> > > > I

> > > > > have

> > > > > > > at

> > > > > > > > > > last

> > > > > > > > > > > > > fallen

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in Love with someone's Soul, over an 8

year

> > > > period

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > getting

> > > > > > > > > > > > know

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > this person more and more, and yet I have

> > > > spritual

> > > > > > > > > questions

> > > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > > > need

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to search answers for in this connection.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > These answers, I believe will come to

> > > > realization

> > > > > > > through

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > mystery

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of God through my practices but I feel it

> > could

> > > > > help

> > > > > > me

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > resolve

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > more in relative action and decision

making

> in

> > > > the

> > > > > big

> > > > > > > > > swell

> > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > heart

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and spiritual conflict.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please will a respected guru/teacher

> consider

> > > > > teaching

> > > > > > > me

> > > > > > > > > > more

> > > > > > > > > > > > > deeply

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > about aspects of my chart in respect of

> > > > spiritual

> > > > > > > > progress

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > journey toward enlightnment. I wish that

as

> > > > many

> > > > > > > > desicions

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > actions I make in life lead to my only

true

> > > > goals

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > inner

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > independent happinesss.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will be happy to meet via messenger or

if

> > > > > necessary

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > make

> > > > > > > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > questions public. Some issues are painful

> and

> > I

> > > > am

> > > > > > > > > inclined

> > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > privacy but I would willingly go with

what

> he

> > or

> > > > > she

> > > > > > > > wishes.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you to the moderator for accepting

my

> > > > > > application

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > join.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Simon Groves

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[Guest guest]

Dear Simon,

 

Ketu - Rahu axis in 1st and 7'th is not a hindrance forever, recall

Sri Krishna, the lord of lords and emodiment of divine love, was also

born with this axis, Another example is of Sri Sriram Sharma Acharya,

the founder of Gayatri Mission. He made me keep focus on China in

astral form after his death.

 

There will be more examples, In astrology, we have closed ourselves

to mere reading signification of bhavas and grahas, we dont try to

ascertain, how one's life progresses with subsequent dashas after the

birth, Another problem with astrology is every 2nd person projects he

is the greatest authority in the world, you see, how these so called

highly evoloved astro guys are in reality, just mark their behavior

in all the astrology groups, including this group.

 

Any way, Last but not the least, Look at your's 11'th lord has gone

to 12'th and 12'th lord which is 9'th lord also has gone to Lagna,

apart from that, you got kemdruma and shakat yogas which may affect

your's concentration and quality to remain focussed.

 

This is saying, you have to travel a lot, and you might be doing lots

of charity also, Your nakschhtra placement says you are of protective

nature and will be doing that role in life. There are chances for you

to have affection with somebody in ur's spritiual group, have u met

the girl u love so much in such activities ?

 

My friendly suggestion for you to not to sit too long for meditation,

let it be easy and natural, in fact, meditation is no meditation, let

the thoughts go away from which are not required and let the thoughts

come to you which are required, this how we come to know about our

life purpose, then, observe, what a fun it is knowing, you are

different from thoughts,feelings, likings and instincts....

 

When kety works, Rahu comes under control.

 

Take Care,

regards,

Lalit

 

 

 

 

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

<simon.groves1 wrote:

>

>

>

> Hello Lalit,

>

>

> your words are accurate... Since I met my guru even his words

cause

> growth... it i sthe most unusual thing... to give you an idea... he

> is in his 70s and has Jupiter and Ketu in ascendent... I will not

> share more of his chart... he just chuckles...

>

>

> I am exhausted right now so I will write to you again when I am

> feeling more restored.

>

> But yur words wre very good and helpful...

>

> Maybe one day we will chat?

>

> Simon

>

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Simon,

> >

> > I m pretty good in making typo, read last mail's first para like

> this

> >

> > " though you have got ur 9'th lord well placed in lagna, there is

> ketu

> > to hinder you "

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit

> >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Simon,

> > >

> > > Now, the difficulties before you - though you have got ur 9'th

> lord

> > > well placed in lagna, there is ketu to hider you, rahu in 7'th

> and

> > > 7'th lord mars in 2nd house placed in scorpio, indicates,

> > accumulated

> > > and sometimes unusual kama - asakti.

> > >

> > > How u w'd overcome ? either clean it or discharge it.

> > >

> > > What u need is a shaktipata to correct the function of

muladhara

> > and

> > > swadhisthana chakras and then a consistent and cared push till

u

> > get

> > > experiene of manipura.

> > >

> > > Why u do meditation for 4 - 5 hours, try observing influx of

> > > instincts and to analyse the intensity of sexuality in you, I

> > > promise, when u feel, u need a help, that will be there to calm

u

> > > down and put u on the track.

> > >

> > > take care,

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit

> > >

> > >

> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Simon,

> > > >

> > > > Sun in 12'th makes one spend disproportionate energy in

pursuit

> of

> > > > worldly sovereignty or lordship as per the characterisic of

> sign

> > in

> > > > 12'th, The naive wants to feel he is at the helm, some w'd

say,

> > sun

> > > > in 12'th may push to one run after women, or may make one

rebel

> to

> > > > conventional govt rulings etc.. thus gove w'd take away his

> wealth

> > > > etc, that's why it's not appreciated by astro classics.

> > > >

> > > > now, come to point - where sun gets solace (vishranti), where

he

> > > > respites?

> > > >

> > > > only at 2 places - near his spouce and near his mother.

> > > >

> > > > so, if we want to undersand the how the sun's placement in

12'th

> > > > house is affecting one's life, we should take care of lagna,

> lagna

> > > > lord, 4'th house and 4'th lord.

> > > >

> > > > you got moon in 4'th in a earthy sign, so, sun'12 house

effect

> > get's

> > > > some footing, i mean, ur energies will not go in vain, but,

4'th

> > > > lord has gone to 6'th house in meena (pisces), and 6'th lord

is

> > Jup

> > > > is conjunct Venus the lagna lord, i had seen it the other

day,

> > which

> > > > helped me to see, u r on the path of transformaion, in

> astrology,

> > > > 6'th to 6'th house is taken as house of gains, in this house

of

> > > > gains, you have got ur's lagna lord along with 6'th lord

> itself, i

> > > > worked on this mystery of life, so, along with the gains that

u

> > w'd

> > > > get easily like wealth and other comforts, major spritual

gain

> > after

> > > > u meet ur guru, is destined for u.

> > > >

> > > > This guru should not take u to seclusion where u will do

> penance

> > > > spending life near bonfire in deep forest. u will have to

enjoy

> ur

> > > > life by being beautiful to world around u.

> > > >

> > > > u wish to know abt the horoscope that destiny has given to

me :

> > take

> > > > down - 17 aug 1972, 20.15 at Rewa, India (24N32,81E18).

> > > >

> > > > Take Care,

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lalit.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > simon.groves1@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Lalit,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Maybe its a weakness or a strength I dont know, because I

> am a

> > > > > very

> > > > > > restricted scholar of Jyotish as far as holding so many

> > > techniques

> > > > > in

> > > > > > mind... I have become a little jaded...through life's

self

> > made

> > > > > > batterings.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But it would be nice to see yur chart if you would share

> > > details?

> > > > > I

> > > > > > cant look deeply into a chart unless I have a close

social

> > with

> > > > > > someone so it will be just to say hello to your chart?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So how is God good to me? ... well I would say mostly in

my

> > > > > growing

> > > > > > intuition is how god is good to me... because it is in

that

> > that

> > > > > we

> > > > > > save ourselves.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But in my relative life God is good by bringing lessons

> that

> > are

> > > > > as I

> > > > > > could never have imagined... the kind I read in fables

and

> > epic

> > > > > > adventures when I was little...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I tell God what kind of Lady I need and so God clicks his

> > > fingers

> > > > > and

> > > > > > seems to bring her to me... he shows me highly compatible

> > > > > partners

> > > > > > who feel as though I have already lived with them a

> > lifetime...

> > > > > and

> > > > > > yet my issues of transformation, especially the conflict

in

> my

> > > > > chart

> > > > > > bewteen Jupiter love and Venus type 'love' are so painful

> in

> > > body

> > > > > as

> > > > > > well as mind and heart.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I feel with Sun in 12th this is my greatest area of need,

> for

> > > > > what

> > > > > > I want to be FULL in resolution and satisfation of inner

> > peace.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My practices are moving me in this direction much faster

> than

> > > > > before

> > > > > > I did them... and showing me what I actually want...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Before I found Jyotish I belived I wanted to be like

Buddha

> > and

> > > go

> > > > > > the whole distance, yet I think " how conceited to think I

> > could

> > > be

> > > > > > like the giant Buddha statues " And then since I am in

touch

> > with

> > > > > > some very very good Jyotish people professionally and in

> > > interest,

> > > > > I

> > > > > > hear some powerful thing about enlightenment

possibilities

> in

> > my

> > > > > > chart and I get excited, scared, daunted and hopeful all

> > > together.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But I just meditate evryday and whatch my old world

slowly

> > blown

> > > > > > apart before my eyes.. I dont know where I am now ...

only

> > that

> > > > > the

> > > > > > world is seeming a better place everyday.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I would like to hear your opinions and intuitions about

how

> > MUCH

> > > > > the

> > > > > > Jupiter - Venus - sex and spirit friction will transfom

> > through

> > > my

> > > > > > spiritual practices. In the eyes of the " west " I am a

> celibate

> > > > > now,

> > > > > > (I just wish to have any more children.) Yet this decision

> > > > > although

> > > > > > it is right for me, is just the start, made in physical

and

> > > > > mental

> > > > > > action only, the desires of the spirit still drag up

> through

> > the

> > > > > mud

> > > > > > of life past in present hangover.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This is clearing by every single set of asanas, and

> mediation

> > I

> > > > > do,

> > > > > > but the seeking life is also never content on finding

> > > > > some " resting

> > > > > > place " .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > God helps me by making things that I used to wish I didnt

> > see...

> > > > > > including pains and upsetting truths in life around us...

> so

> > > much

> > > > > > more vivid and unescapable, so that if I want to do

> something

> > > > > which

> > > > > > is not in the best spiritual directtion .. like

have " just

> one

> > > > > more

> > > > > > beer " HE/She shows me vivid reflections of what the

reality

> of

> > > > > > having that unnesesary extra beer is really about... so I

> see

> > > the

> > > > > > accompanying truthfull vision in some inner image...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This is the power of god in my life, and I used to feel

it a

> > > > > curse,

> > > > > > because so far its painful... I am losing attachments in

new

> > > > > positive

> > > > > > aversions to old habits.... and going through the

islotaion

> > this

> > > > > > brings in general life.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Its looking good for me, but I need to always be on top

of

> my

> > > game

> > > > > > evry hour of each day so I dont slide.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What do you see for advice or general comment in my chart

in

> > > > > respect

> > > > > > of my transormation.... I am told that true mediation

wipes

> > the

> > > > > chart

> > > > > > into being made in sand instead of stone... in this

respect

> > what

> > > > > doe

> > > > > > sthe chart say on my actula spiritual growth, including

the

> > > area I

> > > > > > mentioned of Jupiter-Venus conflict in love and sex

desire?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Whenever you are free is perfect for me, It sounds like

you

> > are

> > > > > > doing good things... All the best with finishing your

> project

> > > and

> > > > > > success with it!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Enjoy your chappatis :-)!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > Simon

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I m happy to receive ur invitation and accept it, I w'd

> > visit

> > > ur

> > > > > > place

> > > > > > > when right time comes for it, Let me know first, what

> good

> > god

> > > > > does

> > > > > > > for you, for both goals.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have to do analysis for you, not getting enough time,

my

> > > > > projects

> > > > > > > release is scheduled this week and 2nd round of testing

> is

> > > going

> > > > > on.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Well, i m interested to know what's ur business - Are

you

> in

> > > > > > pharama

> > > > > > > (medical) or in shipping or doing business of sea

> products.

> > > what

> > > > > > dasha

> > > > > > > you are running currently, pls tell that also.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In the astrology we have discovered Yoga Karakas,

> Mahapurush

> > > > > Yogas,

> > > > > > > Raj Yogas etc... but, hardly any study happened to know

> Yoga

> > > > > > > responsible for triggering transformation of oneself.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Your, horoscope has some similarity with that of Mahtma

> > > Gandhi's

> > > > > > > horoscope, Let me find out the degree and depth of

> > > > > transformation

> > > > > > > written for you in the life.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Lalit,

> > > > > > > > God bless your dear heart... I was unsure of exactly

> where

> > > > > you

> > > > > > were

> > > > > > > > coming from... All I knew is that there was mystery

> behind

> > > > > your

> > > > > > > > message.. and only that it came from a pure heart's

> > place...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > An of course you can imagine why I foolishly ask

> you " did

> > > you

> > > > > get

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > girl lalit? " but that is just an interest in a

film...

> my

> > > > > > weakness.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Outside this Lalit.. in your message today... to bear

> your

> > > > > Soul

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > this message is touching to my painul heart... and I

> aslo

> > > have

> > > > > an

> > > > > > > > astounding TM teacher who is able to " say " go way and

I

> > love

> > > > > you

> > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > son, metaphorically in the same sentence... I am

> blessed

> > to

> > > > > > receive

> > > > > > > > friends like you... and this recluse I am... who

hides

> so

> > > much

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > room would welcome you with tea or water and whatevr

> you

> > > like

> > > > > a

> > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > wholesome meal on any day of the week...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So take that please as an open invitation... I live

at

> > > presnt

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > parents... and when I tell them what you shared...

they

> > will

> > > > > > welcome

> > > > > > > > you at anytime I know...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Outside of this I will be very happy to specifically

> hear

> > > you

> > > > > > > thought

> > > > > > > > and feelings on my chart.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thank you for understanding how head functions and

> > heart.. I

> > > > > am

> > > > > > > > waiting and waiting :-)... but I feel the day is

coming

> > > > > relively

> > > > > > > soon

> > > > > > > > gainst the backdrop of my life.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Natal Mars has too many words,

> > > > > > > > so with Moon in transit there,

> > > > > > > > Thank you,

> > > > > > > > I must go and lie down, because you have seen my whole

> > > > > story...

> > > > > > > thank

> > > > > > > > you,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I feel like saying in this moment, just to my personal

> > > > > taste....

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Jai Guru Dev

> > > > > > > > Simon

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Love in duality can transform to love in non

duality.

> > > > > > > > > She is lucky that there is somebody who loves her

> this

> > > much.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In your case, I can suggest you to walk towards the

> > > > > > selflessness ,

> > > > > > > > > such a selflessness makes u blissful, gives

internal

> > > delight

> > > > > > when

> > > > > > > u

> > > > > > > > > perceive in the external world ur emotions are not

> > > > > reciprocal,

> > > > > > why

> > > > > > > > > so, coz, that's mere a perception.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > when u feel delighted with no cause for that, and

can

> > see

> > > > > > urself

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > other beings heart, u become successful in ur love.

u

> > > should

> > > > > > find

> > > > > > > > > urself in other's heart ... !!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Right now, You find her in ur heart, this is half

of

> the

> > > > > whole

> > > > > > > > > chemistry.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > when i was in my twenties, I undergone same phase

of

> > life

> > > > > that

> > > > > > u r

> > > > > > > > > undsergoing today, I could get God's vision, could

> > speak

> > > to

> > > > > God

> > > > > > at

> > > > > > > > > his will and sometimes i felt at my will also,

could

> > > insist

> > > > > to

> > > > > > God

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > get things as per my wishes ...., I didn't know

where

> > that

> > > > > girl

> > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > living and i had no communication with her, was not

> > > knowing

> > > > > her

> > > > > > > > cell

> > > > > > > > > no but i wanted to have a glimpse of her, wanted to

> meet

> > > > > her, i

> > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > meeting, How, I was asking God, where she will come

> > today,

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > going

> > > > > > > > > to the place echoing within in answers to questions

> > that i

> > > > > was

> > > > > > > > asking

> > > > > > > > > to God, and without any failure i was meeting her.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Though, I could see the God, I couldn't generate

same

> > love

> > > > > in

> > > > > > her

> > > > > > > > > heart ....... i was in deep pain, I was thinking I

m

> in

> > > > > love,

> > > > > > no,

> > > > > > > i

> > > > > > > > > was not, in fact, I was loving my expectations of

> being

> > > > > close

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > her,

> > > > > > > > > expectations of her knowing how special she is for

> > me ...

> > > > > etc...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > True love happens within, no external object is

> > required.

> > > > > make

> > > > > > > > urself

> > > > > > > > > free from expectations, then there is

enlightenments

> and

> > > > > love

> > > > > > > > > togather.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > but, whatever it is, whatever i m saying to you, I

> wish

> > > the

> > > > > God

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > make u happy in love.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Will speak astrologically little later.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > Lalit

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > >

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Bless you Lalit,

> > > > > > > > > > I tell you I never in all my days dreamed a woman

> > could

> > > > > > capture

> > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > mans heart the way this lady has, she has broken

me

> > > when I

> > > > > > > needed

> > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > break, built me up when I was down, and all with

> > spirit

> > > > > > alone,

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > course with eyes to melt the heart of my feeling.

> It

> > is

> > > > > her

> > > > > > > > sight

> > > > > > > > > > that takes my breath away and almost absolute

> modesty

> > > and

> > > > > > simple

> > > > > > > > > Moon

> > > > > > > > > > spirit. In her company I am in church with holy

> water

> > > > > and a

> > > > > > > > font.

> > > > > > > > > > I feel her as the ishta Devta I struggle to

> worship,

> > > Maha

> > > > > > Durga.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I will wait until I hear from you, and thank you

> for

> > > what

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > your

> > > > > > > > > > romantic heart also in wishing I 'get the girl'

and

> > then

> > > > > > > > > > enlightenment... but isnt that what we all wish

> when

> > we

> > > > > watch

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > > > film?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > It is what I wish also because I honestly did not

> know

> > > > > that

> > > > > > > > another

> > > > > > > > > > human can transform anothers life so deeply

inside,

> > > > > bringing

> > > > > > me

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > face the most beutiful and uncomfortable truths

of

> my

> > > > > > journey.

> > > > > > > > And

> > > > > > > > > > so in my heart I wish one day to protect her, as

> her

> > > karma

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > difficult often and Shani also brings her sparse

> > living,

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > still

> > > > > > > > > > she is holy in respect. I wish to protect her

from

> the

> > > > > > > lonliness

> > > > > > > > > > that she treads as a seeker in an English society

> > where

> > > > > her

> > > > > > > gifts

> > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > most often seen as " odd " " wierd " etc...

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > So yes I also would like to deserve her one day

to

> be

> > > her

> > > > > > > > companion

> > > > > > > > > > and helper and learn from her... and yes I hope

as

> I

> > > feel

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > she

> > > > > > > > > > would bring me closer to enlightenment as she has

> > > > > already.

> > > > > > For

> > > > > > > > 8

> > > > > > > > > > years I have loved constantly and only the next

> > > antardasha

> > > > > > may

> > > > > > > > tell

> > > > > > > > > > the next part of our adventure, whether my

Mercury

> > (9th

> > > > > Lord)

> > > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > > bring some stronger spirituality in me that

> deserves

> > to

> > > > > sit

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > her

> > > > > > > > > > as a companion. She does know how purely I 'see'

her

> > > > > and

> > > > > > she

> > > > > > > > > says

> > > > > > > > > > this is profound and I see her heart hoping.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ANd she is mature and will wait to see what

remians

> > of

> > > me

> > > > > > when

> > > > > > > > > > this 'ilness' has washed through me.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > It must be Venus exalted at present. You can see

I

> am

> > in

> > > > > > love,

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > for so long deepening more, but the course of my

> life

> > as

> > > > > has

> > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > far

> > > > > > > > > > been holds no promises or guarantees, I will just

> do

> > my

> > > > > > practice

> > > > > > > > > > daily and see what happens with my deservedness.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > So my current goal is both... when I feel my

ishta

> > Devta

> > > > > near

> > > > > > > > > > (occasionally) in spirit the lady I mention also

> > drifts

> > > > > > > > seemlessly

> > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > the vision and then I hope even more as ishta

> Devata

> > and

> > > > > > karaka

> > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > spouse are both Moon.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > She knows I am facing issues and need, and cant

> avoid

> > > > > > solitude,

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > so she has asked for us to not meet until March

10

> > 2009

> > > > > and

> > > > > > see

> > > > > > > > > what

> > > > > > > > > > we have before us then... it tastes so much of a

> > divine

> > > > > high

> > > > > > > > > > romance... I try not to hope and just be in

present.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thank you, Your comments will be comforting,

> > > > > > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > > > > > Simon

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Pls wait till tomorrow, well, I w'd like to

know

> > > what's

> > > > > ur

> > > > > > > > > current

> > > > > > > > > > > goal, to get enlightened or to get love or to

get

> > > both.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I wish you to get love first and then settle for

> > > > > > > enlightenment.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > Lalit

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > > > >

> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit & anyone who has read this thread,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Please forgive my impatience in my life, :-) I

> > > > > understand

> > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > transits are making my quest for self

> > understanding

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > teaching

> > > > > > > > > > > > far too urgent.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit if you wish to comment it might be fun,

> but

> > is

> > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > > > fun

> > > > > > > > > > > > also? I am far too serious I think?!

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > At least I hope I made some people chuckle. I

> > have a

> > > > > lot

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > learn

> > > > > > > > > > > > about myself yet. Thankfully I was taught

> > something

> > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > > morning

> > > > > > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > > > > > a tiny bird in the garden!

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Simon Groves

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, And Sr astrologers,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Please find my chart details:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Appleton (England, UK) 2W33 53N21

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 11 October 1967

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 08:48 (am)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Daylight Savings +1,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Due to current mental turbulence of planets

> > > > > transiting

> > > > > > > over

> > > > > > > > > > natal

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon's house. I can't, for a little while

at

> > > least,

> > > > > > enter

> > > > > > > > > into

> > > > > > > > > > > > much

> > > > > > > > > > > > > of the philosophical exchange I like. My

> > concerns

> > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > practical

> > > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > managing karma in the most sensible way for

> > inner

> > > > > > growth.

> > > > > > > > > > Please

> > > > > > > > > > > > > help me with your experience, it will be

> > helpful

> > > to

> > > > > > talk

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > someone

> > > > > > > > > > > > > who is especially interested or experienced

in

> > > > > > spiritual

> > > > > > > > life

> > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > charts.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit thank you, I will be interested to

hear

> > your

> > > > > > > thoughts

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > feelings - my planets are in...

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna - Chitra

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun (12th) in Chitra (12th House)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ketu (Asc) in Chitra (Ascendent)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Mercury (Asc) Swathi

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon (4th) in Uttarashadha

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars (2nd) in Jyestha

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn (6th) in Uttarabhadrapada

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu (7th) in Ashwini

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter (11th) in Magha

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus (11th) in Magha

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Although it is not appropriate to discuss my

> > > > > specific

> > > > > > > > > > > relationship

> > > > > > > > > > > > > with a lady I mentioned as it is quite a

saga

> of

> > > > > > support

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > deep

> > > > > > > > > > > > > friendship... she also has the Ketu

ascendent

> > and

> > > > > Rahu

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > 7th.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > The difficulty is the love generated by

this

> > > ongoing

> > > > > > story

> > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > > > her... also I experience deep enhancement

of

> my

> > > > > > spiritual

> > > > > > > > > > > devotion

> > > > > > > > > > > > > and experience ... she is a Ketu-Rahu -1-7

> axis

> > > > > > > Sagittarius-

> > > > > > > > > asc

> > > > > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > > > a very potent spiritual chart, with Moon

> having

> > > > > > > remarkeable

> > > > > > > > > > > > Shadbala

> > > > > > > > > > > > > points in 7th in Gemini. So such a woman

> brings

> > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > questions

> > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > what will be most helpful in my life in

> respect

> > of

> > > > > > > > > > enlightenment

> > > > > > > > > > > > > goals and relationships to a most important

> > level.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't expect to quieten this testing

> emotional

> > > > > > challenge

> > > > > > > > > > > > > immediately in respect to the lady, as our

> love

> > > > > story

> > > > > > > > > continues

> > > > > > > > > > > > > toward success or failure in a mysterious

way

> > > > > always,

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > > > > > developed over 8 years. But I practice

proper

> > > > > > meditation

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > just

> > > > > > > > > > > > go

> > > > > > > > > > > > > with watching my self as best I can... I

feel

> I

> > am

> > > > > > making

> > > > > > > > > > > progress

> > > > > > > > > > > > > one step at a time.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Please forgive the use of so many words,

with

> my

> > > > > > Mercury

> > > > > > > > > > > placement

> > > > > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > find it hard to summarize when I talk

of 'me'.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Simon

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have not told us about Saturn and

Mar's

> > > > > position

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > ur

> > > > > > > > > > > > > horoscope.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group has experienced Sr astrologers

except

> > for

> > > > > me,

> > > > > > > > kindly

> > > > > > > > > > post

> > > > > > > > > > > > > full

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > details of ur's horoscope, both lagna and

> > > navamsha

> > > > > > along

> > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > nakschhtra occupied by planets,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope they as well as I will do honest

and

> > > > > sincere

> > > > > > > > effort

> > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > look

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > into ur life.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have joined here today looking for

very

> > > > > sensitive

> > > > > > > > > > guidance

> > > > > > > > > > > on

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my spiritual path. With Rahu-Ketu 7-1

> axis,

> > > > > with

> > > > > > > Libra

> > > > > > > > > > > > ascendent

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (mercury with Ketu) and Sun in 12th, my

> > life

> > > is

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > constant

> > > > > > > > > > > > flow

> > > > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lessons, and I am embracing these as I

go

> > > > > through

> > > > > > > life.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But in the area of Love, as a Libran

these

> > > > > lessons

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > challenging and up until now the most

> > painful.

> > > > > I

> > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > at

> > > > > > > > > > > last

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > fallen

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in Love with someone's Soul, over an 8

> year

> > > > > period

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > getting

> > > > > > > > > > > > > know

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this person more and more, and yet I

have

> > > > > spritual

> > > > > > > > > > questions

> > > > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > need

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to search answers for in this

connection.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These answers, I believe will come to

> > > > > realization

> > > > > > > > through

> > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > mystery

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of God through my practices but I feel

it

> > > could

> > > > > > help

> > > > > > > me

> > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > resolve

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > more in relative action and decision

> making

> > in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > big

> > > > > > > > > > swell

> > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > heart

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and spiritual conflict.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please will a respected guru/teacher

> > consider

> > > > > > teaching

> > > > > > > > me

> > > > > > > > > > > more

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > deeply

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about aspects of my chart in respect of

> > > > > spiritual

> > > > > > > > > progress

> > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > journey toward enlightnment. I wish

that

> as

> > > > > many

> > > > > > > > > desicions

> > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > actions I make in life lead to my only

> true

> > > > > goals

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > inner

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > independent happinesss.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will be happy to meet via messenger

or

> if

> > > > > > necessary

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > make

> > > > > > > > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > questions public. Some issues are

painful

> > and

> > > I

> > > > > am

> > > > > > > > > > inclined

> > > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > privacy but I would willingly go with

> what

> > he

> > > or

> > > > > > she

> > > > > > > > > wishes.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you to the moderator for

accepting

> my

> > > > > > > application

> > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > join.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Simon Groves

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Simon,

 

Wish to know how u find my chart.

 

regards,

Lalit

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

<mishra.lalit wrote:

>

> Dear Simon,

>

> Ketu - Rahu axis in 1st and 7'th is not a hindrance forever,

recall

> Sri Krishna, the lord of lords and emodiment of divine love, was

also

> born with this axis, Another example is of Sri Sriram Sharma

Acharya,

> the founder of Gayatri Mission. He made me keep focus on China in

> astral form after his death.

>

> There will be more examples, In astrology, we have closed

ourselves

> to mere reading signification of bhavas and grahas, we dont try to

> ascertain, how one's life progresses with subsequent dashas after

the

> birth, Another problem with astrology is every 2nd person projects

he

> is the greatest authority in the world, you see, how these so

called

> highly evoloved astro guys are in reality, just mark their

behavior

> in all the astrology groups, including this group.

>

> Any way, Last but not the least, Look at your's 11'th lord has

gone

> to 12'th and 12'th lord which is 9'th lord also has gone to Lagna,

> apart from that, you got kemdruma and shakat yogas which may

affect

> your's concentration and quality to remain focussed.

>

> This is saying, you have to travel a lot, and you might be doing

lots

> of charity also, Your nakschhtra placement says you are of

protective

> nature and will be doing that role in life. There are chances for

you

> to have affection with somebody in ur's spritiual group, have u

met

> the girl u love so much in such activities ?

>

> My friendly suggestion for you to not to sit too long for

meditation,

> let it be easy and natural, in fact, meditation is no meditation,

let

> the thoughts go away from which are not required and let the

thoughts

> come to you which are required, this how we come to know about our

> life purpose, then, observe, what a fun it is knowing, you are

> different from thoughts,feelings, likings and instincts....

>

> When kety works, Rahu comes under control.

>

> Take Care,

> regards,

> Lalit

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Hello Lalit,

> >

> >

> > your words are accurate... Since I met my guru even his words

> cause

> > growth... it i sthe most unusual thing... to give you an idea...

he

> > is in his 70s and has Jupiter and Ketu in ascendent... I will

not

> > share more of his chart... he just chuckles...

> >

> >

> > I am exhausted right now so I will write to you again when I am

> > feeling more restored.

> >

> > But yur words wre very good and helpful...

> >

> > Maybe one day we will chat?

> >

> > Simon

> >

> >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Simon,

> > >

> > > I m pretty good in making typo, read last mail's first para

like

> > this

> > >

> > > " though you have got ur 9'th lord well placed in lagna, there

is

> > ketu

> > > to hinder you "

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit

> > >

> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Simon,

> > > >

> > > > Now, the difficulties before you - though you have got ur

9'th

> > lord

> > > > well placed in lagna, there is ketu to hider you, rahu in

7'th

> > and

> > > > 7'th lord mars in 2nd house placed in scorpio, indicates,

> > > accumulated

> > > > and sometimes unusual kama - asakti.

> > > >

> > > > How u w'd overcome ? either clean it or discharge it.

> > > >

> > > > What u need is a shaktipata to correct the function of

> muladhara

> > > and

> > > > swadhisthana chakras and then a consistent and cared push

till

> u

> > > get

> > > > experiene of manipura.

> > > >

> > > > Why u do meditation for 4 - 5 hours, try observing influx of

> > > > instincts and to analyse the intensity of sexuality in you,

I

> > > > promise, when u feel, u need a help, that will be there to

calm

> u

> > > > down and put u on the track.

> > > >

> > > > take care,

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lalit

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun in 12'th makes one spend disproportionate energy in

> pursuit

> > of

> > > > > worldly sovereignty or lordship as per the characterisic

of

> > sign

> > > in

> > > > > 12'th, The naive wants to feel he is at the helm, some w'd

> say,

> > > sun

> > > > > in 12'th may push to one run after women, or may make one

> rebel

> > to

> > > > > conventional govt rulings etc.. thus gove w'd take away

his

> > wealth

> > > > > etc, that's why it's not appreciated by astro classics.

> > > > >

> > > > > now, come to point - where sun gets solace (vishranti),

where

> he

> > > > > respites?

> > > > >

> > > > > only at 2 places - near his spouce and near his mother.

> > > > >

> > > > > so, if we want to undersand the how the sun's placement in

> 12'th

> > > > > house is affecting one's life, we should take care of

lagna,

> > lagna

> > > > > lord, 4'th house and 4'th lord.

> > > > >

> > > > > you got moon in 4'th in a earthy sign, so, sun'12 house

> effect

> > > get's

> > > > > some footing, i mean, ur energies will not go in vain,

but,

> 4'th

> > > > > lord has gone to 6'th house in meena (pisces), and 6'th

lord

> is

> > > Jup

> > > > > is conjunct Venus the lagna lord, i had seen it the other

> day,

> > > which

> > > > > helped me to see, u r on the path of transformaion, in

> > astrology,

> > > > > 6'th to 6'th house is taken as house of gains, in this

house

> of

> > > > > gains, you have got ur's lagna lord along with 6'th lord

> > itself, i

> > > > > worked on this mystery of life, so, along with the gains

that

> u

> > > w'd

> > > > > get easily like wealth and other comforts, major spritual

> gain

> > > after

> > > > > u meet ur guru, is destined for u.

> > > > >

> > > > > This guru should not take u to seclusion where u will do

> > penance

> > > > > spending life near bonfire in deep forest. u will have to

> enjoy

> > ur

> > > > > life by being beautiful to world around u.

> > > > >

> > > > > u wish to know abt the horoscope that destiny has given to

> me :

> > > take

> > > > > down - 17 aug 1972, 20.15 at Rewa, India (24N32,81E18).

> > > > >

> > > > > Take Care,

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > simon.groves1@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Lalit,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Maybe its a weakness or a strength I dont know,

because I

> > am a

> > > > > > very

> > > > > > > restricted scholar of Jyotish as far as holding so

many

> > > > techniques

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > mind... I have become a little jaded...through life's

> self

> > > made

> > > > > > > batterings.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But it would be nice to see yur chart if you would

share

> > > > details?

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > cant look deeply into a chart unless I have a close

> social

> > > with

> > > > > > > someone so it will be just to say hello to your chart?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So how is God good to me? ... well I would say mostly

in

> my

> > > > > > growing

> > > > > > > intuition is how god is good to me... because it is in

> that

> > > that

> > > > > > we

> > > > > > > save ourselves.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But in my relative life God is good by bringing

lessons

> > that

> > > are

> > > > > > as I

> > > > > > > could never have imagined... the kind I read in fables

> and

> > > epic

> > > > > > > adventures when I was little...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I tell God what kind of Lady I need and so God clicks

his

> > > > fingers

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > seems to bring her to me... he shows me highly

compatible

> > > > > > partners

> > > > > > > who feel as though I have already lived with them a

> > > lifetime...

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > yet my issues of transformation, especially the

conflict

> in

> > my

> > > > > > chart

> > > > > > > bewteen Jupiter love and Venus type 'love' are so

painful

> > in

> > > > body

> > > > > > as

> > > > > > > well as mind and heart.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I feel with Sun in 12th this is my greatest area of

need,

> > for

> > > > > > what

> > > > > > > I want to be FULL in resolution and satisfation of

inner

> > > peace.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My practices are moving me in this direction much

faster

> > than

> > > > > > before

> > > > > > > I did them... and showing me what I actually want...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Before I found Jyotish I belived I wanted to be like

> Buddha

> > > and

> > > > go

> > > > > > > the whole distance, yet I think " how conceited to

think I

> > > could

> > > > be

> > > > > > > like the giant Buddha statues " And then since I am in

> touch

> > > with

> > > > > > > some very very good Jyotish people professionally and

in

> > > > interest,

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > hear some powerful thing about enlightenment

> possibilities

> > in

> > > my

> > > > > > > chart and I get excited, scared, daunted and hopeful

all

> > > > together.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But I just meditate evryday and whatch my old world

> slowly

> > > blown

> > > > > > > apart before my eyes.. I dont know where I am now ...

> only

> > > that

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > world is seeming a better place everyday.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I would like to hear your opinions and intuitions

about

> how

> > > MUCH

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > Jupiter - Venus - sex and spirit friction will

transfom

> > > through

> > > > my

> > > > > > > spiritual practices. In the eyes of the " west " I am a

> > celibate

> > > > > > now,

> > > > > > > (I just wish to have any more children.) Yet this

decision

> > > > > > although

> > > > > > > it is right for me, is just the start, made in

physical

> and

> > > > > > mental

> > > > > > > action only, the desires of the spirit still drag up

> > through

> > > the

> > > > > > mud

> > > > > > > of life past in present hangover.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This is clearing by every single set of asanas, and

> > mediation

> > > I

> > > > > > do,

> > > > > > > but the seeking life is also never content on finding

> > > > > > some " resting

> > > > > > > place " .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > God helps me by making things that I used to wish I

didnt

> > > see...

> > > > > > > including pains and upsetting truths in life around

us...

> > so

> > > > much

> > > > > > > more vivid and unescapable, so that if I want to do

> > something

> > > > > > which

> > > > > > > is not in the best spiritual directtion .. like

> have " just

> > one

> > > > > > more

> > > > > > > beer " HE/She shows me vivid reflections of what the

> reality

> > of

> > > > > > > having that unnesesary extra beer is really about...

so I

> > see

> > > > the

> > > > > > > accompanying truthfull vision in some inner image...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This is the power of god in my life, and I used to

feel

> it a

> > > > > > curse,

> > > > > > > because so far its painful... I am losing attachments

in

> new

> > > > > > positive

> > > > > > > aversions to old habits.... and going through the

> islotaion

> > > this

> > > > > > > brings in general life.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Its looking good for me, but I need to always be on

top

> of

> > my

> > > > game

> > > > > > > evry hour of each day so I dont slide.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What do you see for advice or general comment in my

chart

> in

> > > > > > respect

> > > > > > > of my transormation.... I am told that true mediation

> wipes

> > > the

> > > > > > chart

> > > > > > > into being made in sand instead of stone... in this

> respect

> > > what

> > > > > > doe

> > > > > > > sthe chart say on my actula spiritual growth,

including

> the

> > > > area I

> > > > > > > mentioned of Jupiter-Venus conflict in love and sex

> desire?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Whenever you are free is perfect for me, It sounds

like

> you

> > > are

> > > > > > > doing good things... All the best with finishing your

> > project

> > > > and

> > > > > > > success with it!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Enjoy your chappatis :-)!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > > Simon

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I m happy to receive ur invitation and accept it, I

w'd

> > > visit

> > > > ur

> > > > > > > place

> > > > > > > > when right time comes for it, Let me know first,

what

> > good

> > > god

> > > > > > does

> > > > > > > > for you, for both goals.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have to do analysis for you, not getting enough

time,

> my

> > > > > > projects

> > > > > > > > release is scheduled this week and 2nd round of

testing

> > is

> > > > going

> > > > > > on.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Well, i m interested to know what's ur business -

Are

> you

> > in

> > > > > > > pharama

> > > > > > > > (medical) or in shipping or doing business of sea

> > products.

> > > > what

> > > > > > > dasha

> > > > > > > > you are running currently, pls tell that also.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In the astrology we have discovered Yoga Karakas,

> > Mahapurush

> > > > > > Yogas,

> > > > > > > > Raj Yogas etc... but, hardly any study happened to

know

> > Yoga

> > > > > > > > responsible for triggering transformation of oneself.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Your, horoscope has some similarity with that of

Mahtma

> > > > Gandhi's

> > > > > > > > horoscope, Let me find out the degree and depth of

> > > > > > transformation

> > > > > > > > written for you in the life.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > >

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit,

> > > > > > > > > God bless your dear heart... I was unsure of

exactly

> > where

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > were

> > > > > > > > > coming from... All I knew is that there was

mystery

> > behind

> > > > > > your

> > > > > > > > > message.. and only that it came from a pure

heart's

> > > place...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > An of course you can imagine why I foolishly ask

> > you " did

> > > > you

> > > > > > get

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > girl lalit? " but that is just an interest in a

> film...

> > my

> > > > > > > weakness.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Outside this Lalit.. in your message today... to

bear

> > your

> > > > > > Soul

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > this message is touching to my painul heart... and

I

> > aslo

> > > > have

> > > > > > an

> > > > > > > > > astounding TM teacher who is able to " say " go way

and

> I

> > > love

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > son, metaphorically in the same sentence... I am

> > blessed

> > > to

> > > > > > > receive

> > > > > > > > > friends like you... and this recluse I am... who

> hides

> > so

> > > > much

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > > room would welcome you with tea or water and

whatevr

> > you

> > > > like

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > > wholesome meal on any day of the week...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > So take that please as an open invitation... I

live

> at

> > > > presnt

> > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > parents... and when I tell them what you shared...

> they

> > > will

> > > > > > > welcome

> > > > > > > > > you at anytime I know...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Outside of this I will be very happy to

specifically

> > hear

> > > > you

> > > > > > > > thought

> > > > > > > > > and feelings on my chart.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thank you for understanding how head functions and

> > > heart.. I

> > > > > > am

> > > > > > > > > waiting and waiting :-)... but I feel the day is

> coming

> > > > > > relively

> > > > > > > > soon

> > > > > > > > > gainst the backdrop of my life.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Natal Mars has too many words,

> > > > > > > > > so with Moon in transit there,

> > > > > > > > > Thank you,

> > > > > > > > > I must go and lie down, because you have seen my

whole

> > > > > > story...

> > > > > > > > thank

> > > > > > > > > you,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I feel like saying in this moment, just to my

personal

> > > > > > taste....

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Jai Guru Dev

> > > > > > > > > Simon

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Love in duality can transform to love in non

> duality.

> > > > > > > > > > She is lucky that there is somebody who loves

her

> > this

> > > > much.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In your case, I can suggest you to walk towards

the

> > > > > > > selflessness ,

> > > > > > > > > > such a selflessness makes u blissful, gives

> internal

> > > > delight

> > > > > > > when

> > > > > > > > u

> > > > > > > > > > perceive in the external world ur emotions are

not

> > > > > > reciprocal,

> > > > > > > why

> > > > > > > > > > so, coz, that's mere a perception.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > when u feel delighted with no cause for that,

and

> can

> > > see

> > > > > > > urself

> > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > other beings heart, u become successful in ur

love.

> u

> > > > should

> > > > > > > find

> > > > > > > > > > urself in other's heart ... !!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Right now, You find her in ur heart, this is

half

> of

> > the

> > > > > > whole

> > > > > > > > > > chemistry.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > when i was in my twenties, I undergone same

phase

> of

> > > life

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > u r

> > > > > > > > > > undsergoing today, I could get God's vision,

could

> > > speak

> > > > to

> > > > > > God

> > > > > > > at

> > > > > > > > > > his will and sometimes i felt at my will also,

> could

> > > > insist

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > God

> > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > get things as per my wishes ...., I didn't know

> where

> > > that

> > > > > > girl

> > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > living and i had no communication with her, was

not

> > > > knowing

> > > > > > her

> > > > > > > > > cell

> > > > > > > > > > no but i wanted to have a glimpse of her, wanted

to

> > meet

> > > > > > her, i

> > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > meeting, How, I was asking God, where she will

come

> > > today,

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > going

> > > > > > > > > > to the place echoing within in answers to

questions

> > > that i

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > asking

> > > > > > > > > > to God, and without any failure i was meeting

her.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Though, I could see the God, I couldn't generate

> same

> > > love

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > her

> > > > > > > > > > heart ....... i was in deep pain, I was thinking

I

> m

> > in

> > > > > > love,

> > > > > > > no,

> > > > > > > > i

> > > > > > > > > > was not, in fact, I was loving my expectations

of

> > being

> > > > > > close

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > her,

> > > > > > > > > > expectations of her knowing how special she is

for

> > > me ...

> > > > > > etc...

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > True love happens within, no external object is

> > > required.

> > > > > > make

> > > > > > > > > urself

> > > > > > > > > > free from expectations, then there is

> enlightenments

> > and

> > > > > > love

> > > > > > > > > > togather.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > but, whatever it is, whatever i m saying to you,

I

> > wish

> > > > the

> > > > > > God

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > make u happy in love.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Will speak astrologically little later.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Lalit

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > >

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Bless you Lalit,

> > > > > > > > > > > I tell you I never in all my days dreamed a

woman

> > > could

> > > > > > > capture

> > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > mans heart the way this lady has, she has

broken

> me

> > > > when I

> > > > > > > > needed

> > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > break, built me up when I was down, and all

with

> > > spirit

> > > > > > > alone,

> > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > course with eyes to melt the heart of my

feeling.

> > It

> > > is

> > > > > > her

> > > > > > > > > sight

> > > > > > > > > > > that takes my breath away and almost absolute

> > modesty

> > > > and

> > > > > > > simple

> > > > > > > > > > Moon

> > > > > > > > > > > spirit. In her company I am in church with

holy

> > water

> > > > > > and a

> > > > > > > > > font.

> > > > > > > > > > > I feel her as the ishta Devta I struggle to

> > worship,

> > > > Maha

> > > > > > > Durga.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I will wait until I hear from you, and thank

you

> > for

> > > > what

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > your

> > > > > > > > > > > romantic heart also in wishing I 'get the

girl'

> and

> > > then

> > > > > > > > > > > enlightenment... but isnt that what we all

wish

> > when

> > > we

> > > > > > watch

> > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > > > > film?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > It is what I wish also because I honestly did

not

> > know

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > another

> > > > > > > > > > > human can transform anothers life so deeply

> inside,

> > > > > > bringing

> > > > > > > me

> > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > face the most beutiful and uncomfortable

truths

> of

> > my

> > > > > > > journey.

> > > > > > > > > And

> > > > > > > > > > > so in my heart I wish one day to protect her,

as

> > her

> > > > karma

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > difficult often and Shani also brings her

sparse

> > > living,

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > still

> > > > > > > > > > > she is holy in respect. I wish to protect her

> from

> > the

> > > > > > > > lonliness

> > > > > > > > > > > that she treads as a seeker in an English

society

> > > where

> > > > > > her

> > > > > > > > gifts

> > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > most often seen as " odd " " wierd " etc...

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > So yes I also would like to deserve her one

day

> to

> > be

> > > > her

> > > > > > > > > companion

> > > > > > > > > > > and helper and learn from her... and yes I

hope

> as

> > I

> > > > feel

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > she

> > > > > > > > > > > would bring me closer to enlightenment as she

has

> > > > > > already.

> > > > > > > For

> > > > > > > > > 8

> > > > > > > > > > > years I have loved constantly and only the

next

> > > > antardasha

> > > > > > > may

> > > > > > > > > tell

> > > > > > > > > > > the next part of our adventure, whether my

> Mercury

> > > (9th

> > > > > > Lord)

> > > > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > > > bring some stronger spirituality in me that

> > deserves

> > > to

> > > > > > sit

> > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > her

> > > > > > > > > > > as a companion. She does know how purely

I 'see'

> her

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > she

> > > > > > > > > > says

> > > > > > > > > > > this is profound and I see her heart hoping.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > ANd she is mature and will wait to see what

> remians

> > > of

> > > > me

> > > > > > > when

> > > > > > > > > > > this 'ilness' has washed through me.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > It must be Venus exalted at present. You can

see

> I

> > am

> > > in

> > > > > > > love,

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > for so long deepening more, but the course of

my

> > life

> > > as

> > > > > > has

> > > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > > far

> > > > > > > > > > > been holds no promises or guarantees, I will

just

> > do

> > > my

> > > > > > > practice

> > > > > > > > > > > daily and see what happens with my

deservedness.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > So my current goal is both... when I feel my

> ishta

> > > Devta

> > > > > > near

> > > > > > > > > > > (occasionally) in spirit the lady I mention

also

> > > drifts

> > > > > > > > > seemlessly

> > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > the vision and then I hope even more as ishta

> > Devata

> > > and

> > > > > > > karaka

> > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > spouse are both Moon.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > She knows I am facing issues and need, and

cant

> > avoid

> > > > > > > solitude,

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > so she has asked for us to not meet until

March

> 10

> > > 2009

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > see

> > > > > > > > > > what

> > > > > > > > > > > we have before us then... it tastes so much of

a

> > > divine

> > > > > > high

> > > > > > > > > > > romance... I try not to hope and just be in

> present.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, Your comments will be comforting,

> > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > > > > > > Simon

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Pls wait till tomorrow, well, I w'd like to

> know

> > > > what's

> > > > > > ur

> > > > > > > > > > current

> > > > > > > > > > > > goal, to get enlightened or to get love or

to

> get

> > > > both.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I wish you to get love first and then settle

for

> > > > > > > > enlightenment.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit & anyone who has read this

thread,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Please forgive my impatience in my life, :-

) I

> > > > > > understand

> > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > transits are making my quest for self

> > > understanding

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > teaching

> > > > > > > > > > > > > far too urgent.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit if you wish to comment it might be

fun,

> > but

> > > is

> > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > > > > fun

> > > > > > > > > > > > > also? I am far too serious I think?!

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > At least I hope I made some people

chuckle. I

> > > have a

> > > > > > lot

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > learn

> > > > > > > > > > > > > about myself yet. Thankfully I was taught

> > > something

> > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > > > morning

> > > > > > > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > > > > > > a tiny bird in the garden!

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Simon Groves

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, And Sr astrologers,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please find my chart details:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Appleton (England, UK) 2W33 53N21

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11 October 1967

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 08:48 (am)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Daylight Savings +1,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Due to current mental turbulence of

planets

> > > > > > transiting

> > > > > > > > over

> > > > > > > > > > > natal

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon's house. I can't, for a little

while

> at

> > > > least,

> > > > > > > enter

> > > > > > > > > > into

> > > > > > > > > > > > > much

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the philosophical exchange I like. My

> > > concerns

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > practical

> > > > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > managing karma in the most sensible way

for

> > > inner

> > > > > > > growth.

> > > > > > > > > > > Please

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > help me with your experience, it will be

> > > helpful

> > > > to

> > > > > > > talk

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > someone

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > who is especially interested or

experienced

> in

> > > > > > > spiritual

> > > > > > > > > life

> > > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > charts.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit thank you, I will be interested to

> hear

> > > your

> > > > > > > > thoughts

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > feelings - my planets are in...

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna - Chitra

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun (12th) in Chitra (12th House)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ketu (Asc) in Chitra (Ascendent)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mercury (Asc) Swathi

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon (4th) in Uttarashadha

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars (2nd) in Jyestha

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn (6th) in Uttarabhadrapada

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu (7th) in Ashwini

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter (11th) in Magha

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus (11th) in Magha

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Although it is not appropriate to

discuss my

> > > > > > specific

> > > > > > > > > > > > relationship

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > with a lady I mentioned as it is quite a

> saga

> > of

> > > > > > > support

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > deep

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > friendship... she also has the Ketu

> ascendent

> > > and

> > > > > > Rahu

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > 7th.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The difficulty is the love generated by

> this

> > > > ongoing

> > > > > > > story

> > > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > her... also I experience deep

enhancement

> of

> > my

> > > > > > > spiritual

> > > > > > > > > > > > devotion

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and experience ... she is a Ketu-Rahu -1-

7

> > axis

> > > > > > > > Sagittarius-

> > > > > > > > > > asc

> > > > > > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > a very potent spiritual chart, with Moon

> > having

> > > > > > > > remarkeable

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Shadbala

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > points in 7th in Gemini. So such a woman

> > brings

> > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > questions

> > > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > what will be most helpful in my life in

> > respect

> > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > enlightenment

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > goals and relationships to a most

important

> > > level.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't expect to quieten this testing

> > emotional

> > > > > > > challenge

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > immediately in respect to the lady, as

our

> > love

> > > > > > story

> > > > > > > > > > continues

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > toward success or failure in a

mysterious

> way

> > > > > > always,

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > developed over 8 years. But I practice

> proper

> > > > > > > meditation

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > just

> > > > > > > > > > > > > go

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > with watching my self as best I can... I

> feel

> > I

> > > am

> > > > > > > making

> > > > > > > > > > > > progress

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > one step at a time.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please forgive the use of so many words,

> with

> > my

> > > > > > > Mercury

> > > > > > > > > > > > placement

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > find it hard to summarize when I talk

> of 'me'.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Simon

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have not told us about Saturn and

> Mar's

> > > > > > position

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > ur

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > horoscope.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group has experienced Sr astrologers

> except

> > > for

> > > > > > me,

> > > > > > > > > kindly

> > > > > > > > > > > post

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > full

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > details of ur's horoscope, both lagna

and

> > > > navamsha

> > > > > > > along

> > > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nakschhtra occupied by planets,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope they as well as I will do

honest

> and

> > > > > > sincere

> > > > > > > > > effort

> > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > look

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > into ur life.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have joined here today looking for

> very

> > > > > > sensitive

> > > > > > > > > > > guidance

> > > > > > > > > > > > on

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my spiritual path. With Rahu-Ketu 7-

1

> > axis,

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > Libra

> > > > > > > > > > > > > ascendent

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (mercury with Ketu) and Sun in 12th,

my

> > > life

> > > > is

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > constant

> > > > > > > > > > > > > flow

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lessons, and I am embracing these as

I

> go

> > > > > > through

> > > > > > > > life.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But in the area of Love, as a Libran

> these

> > > > > > lessons

> > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > challenging and up until now the

most

> > > painful.

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > at

> > > > > > > > > > > > last

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fallen

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in Love with someone's Soul, over an

8

> > year

> > > > > > period

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > getting

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > know

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this person more and more, and yet I

> have

> > > > > > spritual

> > > > > > > > > > > questions

> > > > > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > need

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to search answers for in this

> connection.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These answers, I believe will come to

> > > > > > realization

> > > > > > > > > through

> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mystery

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of God through my practices but I

feel

> it

> > > > could

> > > > > > > help

> > > > > > > > me

> > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > resolve

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > more in relative action and decision

> > making

> > > in

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > big

> > > > > > > > > > > swell

> > > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > heart

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and spiritual conflict.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please will a respected guru/teacher

> > > consider

> > > > > > > teaching

> > > > > > > > > me

> > > > > > > > > > > > more

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > deeply

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about aspects of my chart in respect

of

> > > > > > spiritual

> > > > > > > > > > progress

> > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > journey toward enlightnment. I wish

> that

> > as

> > > > > > many

> > > > > > > > > > desicions

> > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > actions I make in life lead to my

only

> > true

> > > > > > goals

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > inner

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > independent happinesss.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will be happy to meet via

messenger

> or

> > if

> > > > > > > necessary

> > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > make

> > > > > > > > > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > questions public. Some issues are

> painful

> > > and

> > > > I

> > > > > > am

> > > > > > > > > > > inclined

> > > > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > privacy but I would willingly go

with

> > what

> > > he

> > > > or

> > > > > > > she

> > > > > > > > > > wishes.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you to the moderator for

> accepting

> > my

> > > > > > > > application

> > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > join.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Simon Groves

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Lalit,

 

I agree with you, when people approach forums for Jyotish help, they

are putting their hands in the best Jyitish support they can find....

 

So I feel it's our resposibi;ity to then put them on to Jyoish folk

like professional pandits who know more surely than we.

 

 

I like your assesment of my chart it is very good thank you , and os

much more than I expected to hear.

 

I have had good feelings for a while when I look at my chart and its

lord placements and dynamics... and so this is such solace and

encouragemnt when I am going thru the fires of purification in mind

and body.

 

 

I have your chart on my computer now, maybe when I feel better I

will comment on it...... but I am the the worst kind of Jyotish

amatuer..... so my comments will be at best intuitive only.

 

But already I can look at it and say " this is the chart of a nice

man... and a good intuitive Jyotish student, and supportive friend

to other seekers. " And I need no Jyotish to read that.... well that

IS Jyotish.... light.

 

 

God bless

Thank you for your kind words,

Best wishes

Simon

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

<mishra.lalit wrote:

>

> Dear Simon,

>

> Ketu - Rahu axis in 1st and 7'th is not a hindrance forever, recall

> Sri Krishna, the lord of lords and emodiment of divine love, was

also

> born with this axis, Another example is of Sri Sriram Sharma

Acharya,

> the founder of Gayatri Mission. He made me keep focus on China in

> astral form after his death.

>

> There will be more examples, In astrology, we have closed ourselves

> to mere reading signification of bhavas and grahas, we dont try to

> ascertain, how one's life progresses with subsequent dashas after

the

> birth, Another problem with astrology is every 2nd person projects

he

> is the greatest authority in the world, you see, how these so

called

> highly evoloved astro guys are in reality, just mark their behavior

> in all the astrology groups, including this group.

>

> Any way, Last but not the least, Look at your's 11'th lord has gone

> to 12'th and 12'th lord which is 9'th lord also has gone to Lagna,

> apart from that, you got kemdruma and shakat yogas which may affect

> your's concentration and quality to remain focussed.

>

> This is saying, you have to travel a lot, and you might be doing

lots

> of charity also, Your nakschhtra placement says you are of

protective

> nature and will be doing that role in life. There are chances for

you

> to have affection with somebody in ur's spritiual group, have u met

> the girl u love so much in such activities ?

>

> My friendly suggestion for you to not to sit too long for

meditation,

> let it be easy and natural, in fact, meditation is no meditation,

let

> the thoughts go away from which are not required and let the

thoughts

> come to you which are required, this how we come to know about our

> life purpose, then, observe, what a fun it is knowing, you are

> different from thoughts,feelings, likings and instincts....

>

> When kety works, Rahu comes under control.

>

> Take Care,

> regards,

> Lalit

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Hello Lalit,

> >

> >

> > your words are accurate... Since I met my guru even his words

> cause

> > growth... it i sthe most unusual thing... to give you an idea...

he

> > is in his 70s and has Jupiter and Ketu in ascendent... I will not

> > share more of his chart... he just chuckles...

> >

> >

> > I am exhausted right now so I will write to you again when I am

> > feeling more restored.

> >

> > But yur words wre very good and helpful...

> >

> > Maybe one day we will chat?

> >

> > Simon

> >

> >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Simon,

> > >

> > > I m pretty good in making typo, read last mail's first para

like

> > this

> > >

> > > " though you have got ur 9'th lord well placed in lagna, there

is

> > ketu

> > > to hinder you "

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit

> > >

> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Simon,

> > > >

> > > > Now, the difficulties before you - though you have got ur

9'th

> > lord

> > > > well placed in lagna, there is ketu to hider you, rahu in

7'th

> > and

> > > > 7'th lord mars in 2nd house placed in scorpio, indicates,

> > > accumulated

> > > > and sometimes unusual kama - asakti.

> > > >

> > > > How u w'd overcome ? either clean it or discharge it.

> > > >

> > > > What u need is a shaktipata to correct the function of

> muladhara

> > > and

> > > > swadhisthana chakras and then a consistent and cared push

till

> u

> > > get

> > > > experiene of manipura.

> > > >

> > > > Why u do meditation for 4 - 5 hours, try observing influx of

> > > > instincts and to analyse the intensity of sexuality in you, I

> > > > promise, when u feel, u need a help, that will be there to

calm

> u

> > > > down and put u on the track.

> > > >

> > > > take care,

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lalit

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun in 12'th makes one spend disproportionate energy in

> pursuit

> > of

> > > > > worldly sovereignty or lordship as per the characterisic of

> > sign

> > > in

> > > > > 12'th, The naive wants to feel he is at the helm, some w'd

> say,

> > > sun

> > > > > in 12'th may push to one run after women, or may make one

> rebel

> > to

> > > > > conventional govt rulings etc.. thus gove w'd take away his

> > wealth

> > > > > etc, that's why it's not appreciated by astro classics.

> > > > >

> > > > > now, come to point - where sun gets solace (vishranti),

where

> he

> > > > > respites?

> > > > >

> > > > > only at 2 places - near his spouce and near his mother.

> > > > >

> > > > > so, if we want to undersand the how the sun's placement in

> 12'th

> > > > > house is affecting one's life, we should take care of

lagna,

> > lagna

> > > > > lord, 4'th house and 4'th lord.

> > > > >

> > > > > you got moon in 4'th in a earthy sign, so, sun'12 house

> effect

> > > get's

> > > > > some footing, i mean, ur energies will not go in vain, but,

> 4'th

> > > > > lord has gone to 6'th house in meena (pisces), and 6'th

lord

> is

> > > Jup

> > > > > is conjunct Venus the lagna lord, i had seen it the other

> day,

> > > which

> > > > > helped me to see, u r on the path of transformaion, in

> > astrology,

> > > > > 6'th to 6'th house is taken as house of gains, in this

house

> of

> > > > > gains, you have got ur's lagna lord along with 6'th lord

> > itself, i

> > > > > worked on this mystery of life, so, along with the gains

that

> u

> > > w'd

> > > > > get easily like wealth and other comforts, major spritual

> gain

> > > after

> > > > > u meet ur guru, is destined for u.

> > > > >

> > > > > This guru should not take u to seclusion where u will do

> > penance

> > > > > spending life near bonfire in deep forest. u will have to

> enjoy

> > ur

> > > > > life by being beautiful to world around u.

> > > > >

> > > > > u wish to know abt the horoscope that destiny has given to

> me :

> > > take

> > > > > down - 17 aug 1972, 20.15 at Rewa, India (24N32,81E18).

> > > > >

> > > > > Take Care,

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > simon.groves1@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Lalit,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Maybe its a weakness or a strength I dont know, because

I

> > am a

> > > > > > very

> > > > > > > restricted scholar of Jyotish as far as holding so many

> > > > techniques

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > mind... I have become a little jaded...through life's

> self

> > > made

> > > > > > > batterings.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But it would be nice to see yur chart if you would

share

> > > > details?

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > cant look deeply into a chart unless I have a close

> social

> > > with

> > > > > > > someone so it will be just to say hello to your chart?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So how is God good to me? ... well I would say mostly

in

> my

> > > > > > growing

> > > > > > > intuition is how god is good to me... because it is in

> that

> > > that

> > > > > > we

> > > > > > > save ourselves.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But in my relative life God is good by bringing lessons

> > that

> > > are

> > > > > > as I

> > > > > > > could never have imagined... the kind I read in fables

> and

> > > epic

> > > > > > > adventures when I was little...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I tell God what kind of Lady I need and so God clicks

his

> > > > fingers

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > seems to bring her to me... he shows me highly

compatible

> > > > > > partners

> > > > > > > who feel as though I have already lived with them a

> > > lifetime...

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > yet my issues of transformation, especially the

conflict

> in

> > my

> > > > > > chart

> > > > > > > bewteen Jupiter love and Venus type 'love' are so

painful

> > in

> > > > body

> > > > > > as

> > > > > > > well as mind and heart.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I feel with Sun in 12th this is my greatest area of

need,

> > for

> > > > > > what

> > > > > > > I want to be FULL in resolution and satisfation of

inner

> > > peace.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My practices are moving me in this direction much

faster

> > than

> > > > > > before

> > > > > > > I did them... and showing me what I actually want...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Before I found Jyotish I belived I wanted to be like

> Buddha

> > > and

> > > > go

> > > > > > > the whole distance, yet I think " how conceited to think

I

> > > could

> > > > be

> > > > > > > like the giant Buddha statues " And then since I am in

> touch

> > > with

> > > > > > > some very very good Jyotish people professionally and

in

> > > > interest,

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > hear some powerful thing about enlightenment

> possibilities

> > in

> > > my

> > > > > > > chart and I get excited, scared, daunted and hopeful

all

> > > > together.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But I just meditate evryday and whatch my old world

> slowly

> > > blown

> > > > > > > apart before my eyes.. I dont know where I am now ...

> only

> > > that

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > world is seeming a better place everyday.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I would like to hear your opinions and intuitions about

> how

> > > MUCH

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > Jupiter - Venus - sex and spirit friction will transfom

> > > through

> > > > my

> > > > > > > spiritual practices. In the eyes of the " west " I am a

> > celibate

> > > > > > now,

> > > > > > > (I just wish to have any more children.) Yet this

decision

> > > > > > although

> > > > > > > it is right for me, is just the start, made in physical

> and

> > > > > > mental

> > > > > > > action only, the desires of the spirit still drag up

> > through

> > > the

> > > > > > mud

> > > > > > > of life past in present hangover.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This is clearing by every single set of asanas, and

> > mediation

> > > I

> > > > > > do,

> > > > > > > but the seeking life is also never content on finding

> > > > > > some " resting

> > > > > > > place " .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > God helps me by making things that I used to wish I

didnt

> > > see...

> > > > > > > including pains and upsetting truths in life around

us...

> > so

> > > > much

> > > > > > > more vivid and unescapable, so that if I want to do

> > something

> > > > > > which

> > > > > > > is not in the best spiritual directtion .. like

> have " just

> > one

> > > > > > more

> > > > > > > beer " HE/She shows me vivid reflections of what the

> reality

> > of

> > > > > > > having that unnesesary extra beer is really about... so

I

> > see

> > > > the

> > > > > > > accompanying truthfull vision in some inner image...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This is the power of god in my life, and I used to feel

> it a

> > > > > > curse,

> > > > > > > because so far its painful... I am losing attachments

in

> new

> > > > > > positive

> > > > > > > aversions to old habits.... and going through the

> islotaion

> > > this

> > > > > > > brings in general life.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Its looking good for me, but I need to always be on top

> of

> > my

> > > > game

> > > > > > > evry hour of each day so I dont slide.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What do you see for advice or general comment in my

chart

> in

> > > > > > respect

> > > > > > > of my transormation.... I am told that true mediation

> wipes

> > > the

> > > > > > chart

> > > > > > > into being made in sand instead of stone... in this

> respect

> > > what

> > > > > > doe

> > > > > > > sthe chart say on my actula spiritual growth, including

> the

> > > > area I

> > > > > > > mentioned of Jupiter-Venus conflict in love and sex

> desire?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Whenever you are free is perfect for me, It sounds like

> you

> > > are

> > > > > > > doing good things... All the best with finishing your

> > project

> > > > and

> > > > > > > success with it!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Enjoy your chappatis :-)!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > > Simon

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I m happy to receive ur invitation and accept it, I

w'd

> > > visit

> > > > ur

> > > > > > > place

> > > > > > > > when right time comes for it, Let me know first, what

> > good

> > > god

> > > > > > does

> > > > > > > > for you, for both goals.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have to do analysis for you, not getting enough

time,

> my

> > > > > > projects

> > > > > > > > release is scheduled this week and 2nd round of

testing

> > is

> > > > going

> > > > > > on.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Well, i m interested to know what's ur business - Are

> you

> > in

> > > > > > > pharama

> > > > > > > > (medical) or in shipping or doing business of sea

> > products.

> > > > what

> > > > > > > dasha

> > > > > > > > you are running currently, pls tell that also.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In the astrology we have discovered Yoga Karakas,

> > Mahapurush

> > > > > > Yogas,

> > > > > > > > Raj Yogas etc... but, hardly any study happened to

know

> > Yoga

> > > > > > > > responsible for triggering transformation of oneself.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Your, horoscope has some similarity with that of

Mahtma

> > > > Gandhi's

> > > > > > > > horoscope, Let me find out the degree and depth of

> > > > > > transformation

> > > > > > > > written for you in the life.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > >

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit,

> > > > > > > > > God bless your dear heart... I was unsure of

exactly

> > where

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > were

> > > > > > > > > coming from... All I knew is that there was mystery

> > behind

> > > > > > your

> > > > > > > > > message.. and only that it came from a pure heart's

> > > place...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > An of course you can imagine why I foolishly ask

> > you " did

> > > > you

> > > > > > get

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > girl lalit? " but that is just an interest in a

> film...

> > my

> > > > > > > weakness.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Outside this Lalit.. in your message today... to

bear

> > your

> > > > > > Soul

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > this message is touching to my painul heart... and

I

> > aslo

> > > > have

> > > > > > an

> > > > > > > > > astounding TM teacher who is able to " say " go way

and

> I

> > > love

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > son, metaphorically in the same sentence... I am

> > blessed

> > > to

> > > > > > > receive

> > > > > > > > > friends like you... and this recluse I am... who

> hides

> > so

> > > > much

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > > room would welcome you with tea or water and

whatevr

> > you

> > > > like

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > > wholesome meal on any day of the week...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > So take that please as an open invitation... I live

> at

> > > > presnt

> > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > parents... and when I tell them what you shared...

> they

> > > will

> > > > > > > welcome

> > > > > > > > > you at anytime I know...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Outside of this I will be very happy to

specifically

> > hear

> > > > you

> > > > > > > > thought

> > > > > > > > > and feelings on my chart.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thank you for understanding how head functions and

> > > heart.. I

> > > > > > am

> > > > > > > > > waiting and waiting :-)... but I feel the day is

> coming

> > > > > > relively

> > > > > > > > soon

> > > > > > > > > gainst the backdrop of my life.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Natal Mars has too many words,

> > > > > > > > > so with Moon in transit there,

> > > > > > > > > Thank you,

> > > > > > > > > I must go and lie down, because you have seen my

whole

> > > > > > story...

> > > > > > > > thank

> > > > > > > > > you,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I feel like saying in this moment, just to my

personal

> > > > > > taste....

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Jai Guru Dev

> > > > > > > > > Simon

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Love in duality can transform to love in non

> duality.

> > > > > > > > > > She is lucky that there is somebody who loves her

> > this

> > > > much.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In your case, I can suggest you to walk towards

the

> > > > > > > selflessness ,

> > > > > > > > > > such a selflessness makes u blissful, gives

> internal

> > > > delight

> > > > > > > when

> > > > > > > > u

> > > > > > > > > > perceive in the external world ur emotions are not

> > > > > > reciprocal,

> > > > > > > why

> > > > > > > > > > so, coz, that's mere a perception.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > when u feel delighted with no cause for that, and

> can

> > > see

> > > > > > > urself

> > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > other beings heart, u become successful in ur

love.

> u

> > > > should

> > > > > > > find

> > > > > > > > > > urself in other's heart ... !!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Right now, You find her in ur heart, this is half

> of

> > the

> > > > > > whole

> > > > > > > > > > chemistry.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > when i was in my twenties, I undergone same phase

> of

> > > life

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > u r

> > > > > > > > > > undsergoing today, I could get God's vision,

could

> > > speak

> > > > to

> > > > > > God

> > > > > > > at

> > > > > > > > > > his will and sometimes i felt at my will also,

> could

> > > > insist

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > God

> > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > get things as per my wishes ...., I didn't know

> where

> > > that

> > > > > > girl

> > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > living and i had no communication with her, was

not

> > > > knowing

> > > > > > her

> > > > > > > > > cell

> > > > > > > > > > no but i wanted to have a glimpse of her, wanted

to

> > meet

> > > > > > her, i

> > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > meeting, How, I was asking God, where she will

come

> > > today,

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > going

> > > > > > > > > > to the place echoing within in answers to

questions

> > > that i

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > asking

> > > > > > > > > > to God, and without any failure i was meeting her.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Though, I could see the God, I couldn't generate

> same

> > > love

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > her

> > > > > > > > > > heart ....... i was in deep pain, I was thinking

I

> m

> > in

> > > > > > love,

> > > > > > > no,

> > > > > > > > i

> > > > > > > > > > was not, in fact, I was loving my expectations of

> > being

> > > > > > close

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > her,

> > > > > > > > > > expectations of her knowing how special she is

for

> > > me ...

> > > > > > etc...

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > True love happens within, no external object is

> > > required.

> > > > > > make

> > > > > > > > > urself

> > > > > > > > > > free from expectations, then there is

> enlightenments

> > and

> > > > > > love

> > > > > > > > > > togather.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > but, whatever it is, whatever i m saying to you,

I

> > wish

> > > > the

> > > > > > God

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > make u happy in love.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Will speak astrologically little later.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Lalit

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > >

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Bless you Lalit,

> > > > > > > > > > > I tell you I never in all my days dreamed a

woman

> > > could

> > > > > > > capture

> > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > mans heart the way this lady has, she has

broken

> me

> > > > when I

> > > > > > > > needed

> > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > break, built me up when I was down, and all

with

> > > spirit

> > > > > > > alone,

> > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > course with eyes to melt the heart of my

feeling.

> > It

> > > is

> > > > > > her

> > > > > > > > > sight

> > > > > > > > > > > that takes my breath away and almost absolute

> > modesty

> > > > and

> > > > > > > simple

> > > > > > > > > > Moon

> > > > > > > > > > > spirit. In her company I am in church with holy

> > water

> > > > > > and a

> > > > > > > > > font.

> > > > > > > > > > > I feel her as the ishta Devta I struggle to

> > worship,

> > > > Maha

> > > > > > > Durga.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I will wait until I hear from you, and thank

you

> > for

> > > > what

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > your

> > > > > > > > > > > romantic heart also in wishing I 'get the girl'

> and

> > > then

> > > > > > > > > > > enlightenment... but isnt that what we all wish

> > when

> > > we

> > > > > > watch

> > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > > > > film?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > It is what I wish also because I honestly did

not

> > know

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > another

> > > > > > > > > > > human can transform anothers life so deeply

> inside,

> > > > > > bringing

> > > > > > > me

> > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > face the most beutiful and uncomfortable truths

> of

> > my

> > > > > > > journey.

> > > > > > > > > And

> > > > > > > > > > > so in my heart I wish one day to protect her,

as

> > her

> > > > karma

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > difficult often and Shani also brings her

sparse

> > > living,

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > still

> > > > > > > > > > > she is holy in respect. I wish to protect her

> from

> > the

> > > > > > > > lonliness

> > > > > > > > > > > that she treads as a seeker in an English

society

> > > where

> > > > > > her

> > > > > > > > gifts

> > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > most often seen as " odd " " wierd " etc...

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > So yes I also would like to deserve her one day

> to

> > be

> > > > her

> > > > > > > > > companion

> > > > > > > > > > > and helper and learn from her... and yes I hope

> as

> > I

> > > > feel

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > she

> > > > > > > > > > > would bring me closer to enlightenment as she

has

> > > > > > already.

> > > > > > > For

> > > > > > > > > 8

> > > > > > > > > > > years I have loved constantly and only the next

> > > > antardasha

> > > > > > > may

> > > > > > > > > tell

> > > > > > > > > > > the next part of our adventure, whether my

> Mercury

> > > (9th

> > > > > > Lord)

> > > > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > > > bring some stronger spirituality in me that

> > deserves

> > > to

> > > > > > sit

> > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > her

> > > > > > > > > > > as a companion. She does know how purely

I 'see'

> her

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > she

> > > > > > > > > > says

> > > > > > > > > > > this is profound and I see her heart hoping.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > ANd she is mature and will wait to see what

> remians

> > > of

> > > > me

> > > > > > > when

> > > > > > > > > > > this 'ilness' has washed through me.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > It must be Venus exalted at present. You can

see

> I

> > am

> > > in

> > > > > > > love,

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > for so long deepening more, but the course of

my

> > life

> > > as

> > > > > > has

> > > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > > far

> > > > > > > > > > > been holds no promises or guarantees, I will

just

> > do

> > > my

> > > > > > > practice

> > > > > > > > > > > daily and see what happens with my deservedness.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > So my current goal is both... when I feel my

> ishta

> > > Devta

> > > > > > near

> > > > > > > > > > > (occasionally) in spirit the lady I mention

also

> > > drifts

> > > > > > > > > seemlessly

> > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > the vision and then I hope even more as ishta

> > Devata

> > > and

> > > > > > > karaka

> > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > spouse are both Moon.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > She knows I am facing issues and need, and cant

> > avoid

> > > > > > > solitude,

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > so she has asked for us to not meet until March

> 10

> > > 2009

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > see

> > > > > > > > > > what

> > > > > > > > > > > we have before us then... it tastes so much of

a

> > > divine

> > > > > > high

> > > > > > > > > > > romance... I try not to hope and just be in

> present.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, Your comments will be comforting,

> > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > > > > > > Simon

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Pls wait till tomorrow, well, I w'd like to

> know

> > > > what's

> > > > > > ur

> > > > > > > > > > current

> > > > > > > > > > > > goal, to get enlightened or to get love or to

> get

> > > > both.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I wish you to get love first and then settle

for

> > > > > > > > enlightenment.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit & anyone who has read this

thread,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Please forgive my impatience in my life, :-

) I

> > > > > > understand

> > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > transits are making my quest for self

> > > understanding

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > teaching

> > > > > > > > > > > > > far too urgent.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit if you wish to comment it might be

fun,

> > but

> > > is

> > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > > > > fun

> > > > > > > > > > > > > also? I am far too serious I think?!

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > At least I hope I made some people chuckle.

I

> > > have a

> > > > > > lot

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > learn

> > > > > > > > > > > > > about myself yet. Thankfully I was taught

> > > something

> > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > > > morning

> > > > > > > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > > > > > > a tiny bird in the garden!

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Simon Groves

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, And Sr astrologers,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please find my chart details:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Appleton (England, UK) 2W33 53N21

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11 October 1967

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 08:48 (am)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Daylight Savings +1,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Due to current mental turbulence of

planets

> > > > > > transiting

> > > > > > > > over

> > > > > > > > > > > natal

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon's house. I can't, for a little while

> at

> > > > least,

> > > > > > > enter

> > > > > > > > > > into

> > > > > > > > > > > > > much

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the philosophical exchange I like. My

> > > concerns

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > practical

> > > > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > managing karma in the most sensible way

for

> > > inner

> > > > > > > growth.

> > > > > > > > > > > Please

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > help me with your experience, it will be

> > > helpful

> > > > to

> > > > > > > talk

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > someone

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > who is especially interested or

experienced

> in

> > > > > > > spiritual

> > > > > > > > > life

> > > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > charts.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit thank you, I will be interested to

> hear

> > > your

> > > > > > > > thoughts

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > feelings - my planets are in...

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna - Chitra

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun (12th) in Chitra (12th House)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ketu (Asc) in Chitra (Ascendent)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mercury (Asc) Swathi

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon (4th) in Uttarashadha

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars (2nd) in Jyestha

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn (6th) in Uttarabhadrapada

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu (7th) in Ashwini

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter (11th) in Magha

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus (11th) in Magha

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Although it is not appropriate to discuss

my

> > > > > > specific

> > > > > > > > > > > > relationship

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > with a lady I mentioned as it is quite a

> saga

> > of

> > > > > > > support

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > deep

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > friendship... she also has the Ketu

> ascendent

> > > and

> > > > > > Rahu

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > 7th.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The difficulty is the love generated by

> this

> > > > ongoing

> > > > > > > story

> > > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > her... also I experience deep enhancement

> of

> > my

> > > > > > > spiritual

> > > > > > > > > > > > devotion

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and experience ... she is a Ketu-Rahu -1-

7

> > axis

> > > > > > > > Sagittarius-

> > > > > > > > > > asc

> > > > > > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > a very potent spiritual chart, with Moon

> > having

> > > > > > > > remarkeable

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Shadbala

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > points in 7th in Gemini. So such a woman

> > brings

> > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > questions

> > > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > what will be most helpful in my life in

> > respect

> > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > enlightenment

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > goals and relationships to a most

important

> > > level.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't expect to quieten this testing

> > emotional

> > > > > > > challenge

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > immediately in respect to the lady, as

our

> > love

> > > > > > story

> > > > > > > > > > continues

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > toward success or failure in a mysterious

> way

> > > > > > always,

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > developed over 8 years. But I practice

> proper

> > > > > > > meditation

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > just

> > > > > > > > > > > > > go

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > with watching my self as best I can... I

> feel

> > I

> > > am

> > > > > > > making

> > > > > > > > > > > > progress

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > one step at a time.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please forgive the use of so many words,

> with

> > my

> > > > > > > Mercury

> > > > > > > > > > > > placement

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > find it hard to summarize when I talk

> of 'me'.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Simon

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have not told us about Saturn and

> Mar's

> > > > > > position

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > ur

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > horoscope.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group has experienced Sr astrologers

> except

> > > for

> > > > > > me,

> > > > > > > > > kindly

> > > > > > > > > > > post

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > full

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > details of ur's horoscope, both lagna

and

> > > > navamsha

> > > > > > > along

> > > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nakschhtra occupied by planets,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope they as well as I will do honest

> and

> > > > > > sincere

> > > > > > > > > effort

> > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > look

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > into ur life.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have joined here today looking for

> very

> > > > > > sensitive

> > > > > > > > > > > guidance

> > > > > > > > > > > > on

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my spiritual path. With Rahu-Ketu 7-1

> > axis,

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > Libra

> > > > > > > > > > > > > ascendent

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (mercury with Ketu) and Sun in 12th,

my

> > > life

> > > > is

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > constant

> > > > > > > > > > > > > flow

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lessons, and I am embracing these as

I

> go

> > > > > > through

> > > > > > > > life.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But in the area of Love, as a Libran

> these

> > > > > > lessons

> > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > challenging and up until now the most

> > > painful.

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > at

> > > > > > > > > > > > last

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fallen

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in Love with someone's Soul, over an

8

> > year

> > > > > > period

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > getting

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > know

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this person more and more, and yet I

> have

> > > > > > spritual

> > > > > > > > > > > questions

> > > > > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > need

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to search answers for in this

> connection.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These answers, I believe will come to

> > > > > > realization

> > > > > > > > > through

> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mystery

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of God through my practices but I

feel

> it

> > > > could

> > > > > > > help

> > > > > > > > me

> > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > resolve

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > more in relative action and decision

> > making

> > > in

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > big

> > > > > > > > > > > swell

> > > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > heart

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and spiritual conflict.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please will a respected guru/teacher

> > > consider

> > > > > > > teaching

> > > > > > > > > me

> > > > > > > > > > > > more

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > deeply

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about aspects of my chart in respect

of

> > > > > > spiritual

> > > > > > > > > > progress

> > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > journey toward enlightnment. I wish

> that

> > as

> > > > > > many

> > > > > > > > > > desicions

> > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > actions I make in life lead to my

only

> > true

> > > > > > goals

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > inner

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > independent happinesss.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will be happy to meet via messenger

> or

> > if

> > > > > > > necessary

> > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > make

> > > > > > > > > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > questions public. Some issues are

> painful

> > > and

> > > > I

> > > > > > am

> > > > > > > > > > > inclined

> > > > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > privacy but I would willingly go with

> > what

> > > he

> > > > or

> > > > > > > she

> > > > > > > > > > wishes.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you to the moderator for

> accepting

> > my

> > > > > > > > application

> > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > join.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Simon Groves

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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[Guest guest]

Hi Lalit, for your studies... I can tell you that your observations

were very subtle and accurate....

 

ALthough my hearts dream is to work as a property developer some

day, I am always loving sea-shells as you spotted. I wish I

could also make my money making necklaces from them, they are one of

the most beautiful objects in the world and so are precious... to me

a simple shell like that is worth $250 in my heart and yet it would

sell for such a tiny price.... so many years it took to make that

shell... and 5 minutes for me to drill a hole and put some leather to

hang it....

 

 

It is interesting..... yes my past relationship have been with ladies

who have taught me lots of things in study of spirituality...

 

And to say she would be leader of some spiritual group is not far

from accurate at all in some cases.... they seem to have all

worshipped the Divine Mother quite consciously.

 

 

Best wishes,

Simon

 

 

 

 

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

<mishra.lalit wrote:

>

> Dear Simon,

>

> I m happy to receive ur invitation and accept it, I w'd visit ur

place

> when right time comes for it, Let me know first, what good god does

> for you, for both goals.

>

> I have to do analysis for you, not getting enough time, my projects

> release is scheduled this week and 2nd round of testing is going on.

>

> Well, i m interested to know what's ur business - Are you in

pharama

> (medical) or in shipping or doing business of sea products. what

dasha

> you are running currently, pls tell that also.

>

> In the astrology we have discovered Yoga Karakas, Mahapurush Yogas,

> Raj Yogas etc... but, hardly any study happened to know Yoga

> responsible for triggering transformation of oneself.

>

> Your, horoscope has some similarity with that of Mahtma Gandhi's

> horoscope, Let me find out the degree and depth of transformation

> written for you in the life.

>

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Lalit,

> > God bless your dear heart... I was unsure of exactly where you

were

> > coming from... All I knew is that there was mystery behind your

> > message.. and only that it came from a pure heart's place...

> >

> > An of course you can imagine why I foolishly ask you " did you get

> the

> > girl lalit? " but that is just an interest in a film... my

weakness.

> >

> > Outside this Lalit.. in your message today... to bear your Soul

in

> > this message is touching to my painul heart... and I aslo have an

> > astounding TM teacher who is able to " say " go way and I love you

my

> > son, metaphorically in the same sentence... I am blessed to

receive

> > friends like you... and this recluse I am... who hides so much in

> his

> > room would welcome you with tea or water and whatevr you like a

good

> > wholesome meal on any day of the week...

> >

> > So take that please as an open invitation... I live at presnt

with

> my

> > parents... and when I tell them what you shared... they will

welcome

> > you at anytime I know...

> >

> > Outside of this I will be very happy to specifically hear you

> thought

> > and feelings on my chart.

> >

> > Thank you for understanding how head functions and heart.. I am

> > waiting and waiting :-)... but I feel the day is coming relively

> soon

> > gainst the backdrop of my life.

> >

> > Natal Mars has too many words,

> > so with Moon in transit there,

> > Thank you,

> > I must go and lie down, because you have seen my whole story...

> thank

> > you,

> >

> > I feel like saying in this moment, just to my personal taste....

> >

> > Jai Guru Dev

> > Simon

> >

> >

> >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Simon,

> > >

> > > Love in duality can transform to love in non duality.

> > > She is lucky that there is somebody who loves her this much.

> > >

> > > In your case, I can suggest you to walk towards the

selflessness ,

> > > such a selflessness makes u blissful, gives internal delight

when

> u

> > > perceive in the external world ur emotions are not reciprocal,

why

> > > so, coz, that's mere a perception.

> > >

> > > when u feel delighted with no cause for that, and can see

urself

> in

> > > other beings heart, u become successful in ur love. u should

find

> > > urself in other's heart ... !!

> > >

> > > Right now, You find her in ur heart, this is half of the whole

> > > chemistry.

> > >

> > > when i was in my twenties, I undergone same phase of life that

u r

> > > undsergoing today, I could get God's vision, could speak to God

at

> > > his will and sometimes i felt at my will also, could insist to

God

> > to

> > > get things as per my wishes ...., I didn't know where that girl

> was

> > > living and i had no communication with her, was not knowing her

> > cell

> > > no but i wanted to have a glimpse of her, wanted to meet her, i

> was

> > > meeting, How, I was asking God, where she will come today, and

> > going

> > > to the place echoing within in answers to questions that i was

> > asking

> > > to God, and without any failure i was meeting her.

> > >

> > > Though, I could see the God, I couldn't generate same love in

her

> > > heart ....... i was in deep pain, I was thinking I m in love,

no,

> i

> > > was not, in fact, I was loving my expectations of being close

to

> > her,

> > > expectations of her knowing how special she is for me ... etc...

> > >

> > > True love happens within, no external object is required. make

> > urself

> > > free from expectations, then there is enlightenments and love

> > > togather.

> > >

> > > but, whatever it is, whatever i m saying to you, I wish the God

to

> > > make u happy in love.

> > >

> > > Will speak astrologically little later.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Bless you Lalit,

> > > > I tell you I never in all my days dreamed a woman could

capture

> a

> > > > mans heart the way this lady has, she has broken me when I

> needed

> > > to

> > > > break, built me up when I was down, and all with spirit

alone,

> of

> > > > course with eyes to melt the heart of my feeling. It is her

> > sight

> > > > that takes my breath away and almost absolute modesty and

simple

> > > Moon

> > > > spirit. In her company I am in church with holy water and a

> > font.

> > > > I feel her as the ishta Devta I struggle to worship, Maha

Durga.

> > > >

> > > > I will wait until I hear from you, and thank you for what is

> your

> > > > romantic heart also in wishing I 'get the girl' and then

> > > > enlightenment... but isnt that what we all wish when we watch

a

> > > good

> > > > film?

> > > >

> > > > It is what I wish also because I honestly did not know that

> > another

> > > > human can transform anothers life so deeply inside, bringing

me

> > to

> > > > face the most beutiful and uncomfortable truths of my

journey.

> > And

> > > > so in my heart I wish one day to protect her, as her karma is

> > > > difficult often and Shani also brings her sparse living, and

> > still

> > > > she is holy in respect. I wish to protect her from the

> lonliness

> > > > that she treads as a seeker in an English society where her

> gifts

> > > are

> > > > most often seen as " odd " " wierd " etc...

> > > >

> > > > So yes I also would like to deserve her one day to be her

> > companion

> > > > and helper and learn from her... and yes I hope as I feel

that

> > she

> > > > would bring me closer to enlightenment as she has already.

For

> > 8

> > > > years I have loved constantly and only the next antardasha

may

> > tell

> > > > the next part of our adventure, whether my Mercury (9th Lord)

> > will

> > > > bring some stronger spirituality in me that deserves to sit

with

> > > her

> > > > as a companion. She does know how purely I 'see' her and

she

> > > says

> > > > this is profound and I see her heart hoping.

> > > >

> > > > ANd she is mature and will wait to see what remians of me

when

> > > > this 'ilness' has washed through me.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > It must be Venus exalted at present. You can see I am in

love,

> > > and

> > > > for so long deepening more, but the course of my life as has

so

> > far

> > > > been holds no promises or guarantees, I will just do my

practice

> > > > daily and see what happens with my deservedness.

> > > >

> > > > So my current goal is both... when I feel my ishta Devta near

> > > > (occasionally) in spirit the lady I mention also drifts

> > seemlessly

> > > in

> > > > the vision and then I hope even more as ishta Devata and

karaka

> > for

> > > > spouse are both Moon.

> > > >

> > > > She knows I am facing issues and need, and cant avoid

solitude,

> > > and

> > > > so she has asked for us to not meet until March 10 2009 and

see

> > > what

> > > > we have before us then... it tastes so much of a divine high

> > > > romance... I try not to hope and just be in present.

> > > >

> > > > Thank you, Your comments will be comforting,

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > > Simon

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > >

> > > > > Pls wait till tomorrow, well, I w'd like to know what's ur

> > > current

> > > > > goal, to get enlightened or to get love or to get both.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I wish you to get love first and then settle for

> enlightenment.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Lalit

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Lalit & anyone who has read this thread,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please forgive my impatience in my life, :-) I understand

> > that

> > > > the

> > > > > > transits are making my quest for self understanding and

> > teaching

> > > > > > far too urgent.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lalit if you wish to comment it might be fun, but is

this

> > > about

> > > > > fun

> > > > > > also? I am far too serious I think?!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > At least I hope I made some people chuckle. I have a lot

to

> > > learn

> > > > > > about myself yet. Thankfully I was taught something

this

> > > > morning

> > > > > by

> > > > > > a tiny bird in the garden!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > Simon Groves

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Lalit, And Sr astrologers,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please find my chart details:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Appleton (England, UK) 2W33 53N21

> > > > > > > 11 October 1967

> > > > > > > 08:48 (am)

> > > > > > > Daylight Savings +1,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Due to current mental turbulence of planets transiting

> over

> > > > natal

> > > > > > > Moon's house. I can't, for a little while at least,

enter

> > > into

> > > > > > much

> > > > > > > of the philosophical exchange I like. My concerns are

> > > > practical

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > managing karma in the most sensible way for inner

growth.

> > > > Please

> > > > > > > help me with your experience, it will be helpful to

talk

> to

> > > > > someone

> > > > > > > who is especially interested or experienced in

spiritual

> > life

> > > > in

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > charts.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lalit thank you, I will be interested to hear your

> thoughts

> > > and

> > > > > > > feelings - my planets are in...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lagna - Chitra

> > > > > > > Sun (12th) in Chitra (12th House)

> > > > > > > Ketu (Asc) in Chitra (Ascendent)

> > > > > > > Mercury (Asc) Swathi

> > > > > > > Moon (4th) in Uttarashadha

> > > > > > > Mars (2nd) in Jyestha

> > > > > > > Saturn (6th) in Uttarabhadrapada

> > > > > > > Rahu (7th) in Ashwini

> > > > > > > Jupiter (11th) in Magha

> > > > > > > Venus (11th) in Magha

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Although it is not appropriate to discuss my specific

> > > > > relationship

> > > > > > > with a lady I mentioned as it is quite a saga of

support

> > and

> > > > deep

> > > > > > > friendship... she also has the Ketu ascendent and Rahu

in

> > 7th.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The difficulty is the love generated by this ongoing

story

> > > with

> > > > > > > her... also I experience deep enhancement of my

spiritual

> > > > > devotion

> > > > > > > and experience ... she is a Ketu-Rahu -1-7 axis

> Sagittarius-

> > > asc

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > a very potent spiritual chart, with Moon having

> remarkeable

> > > > > > Shadbala

> > > > > > > points in 7th in Gemini. So such a woman brings my

> > > questions

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > what will be most helpful in my life in respect of

> > > > enlightenment

> > > > > > > goals and relationships to a most important level.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I don't expect to quieten this testing emotional

challenge

> > > > > > > immediately in respect to the lady, as our love story

> > > continues

> > > > > > > toward success or failure in a mysterious way always,

and

> > it

> > > > has

> > > > > > > developed over 8 years. But I practice proper

meditation

> > and

> > > > just

> > > > > > go

> > > > > > > with watching my self as best I can... I feel I am

making

> > > > > progress

> > > > > > > one step at a time.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please forgive the use of so many words, with my

Mercury

> > > > > placement

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > find it hard to summarize when I talk of 'me'.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Simon

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You have not told us about Saturn and Mar's position

in

> > ur

> > > > > > > horoscope.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Group has experienced Sr astrologers except for me,

> > kindly

> > > > post

> > > > > > > full

> > > > > > > > details of ur's horoscope, both lagna and navamsha

along

> > > with

> > > > > > > > nakschhtra occupied by planets,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I hope they as well as I will do honest and sincere

> > effort

> > > to

> > > > > > look

> > > > > > > > into ur life.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > >

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I have joined here today looking for very sensitive

> > > > guidance

> > > > > on

> > > > > > > > > my spiritual path. With Rahu-Ketu 7-1 axis, with

> Libra

> > > > > > ascendent

> > > > > > > > > (mercury with Ketu) and Sun in 12th, my life is a

> > > constant

> > > > > > flow

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > lessons, and I am embracing these as I go through

> life.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > But in the area of Love, as a Libran these lessons

are

> > > the

> > > > > most

> > > > > > > > > challenging and up until now the most painful. I

have

> > at

> > > > > last

> > > > > > > > fallen

> > > > > > > > > in Love with someone's Soul, over an 8 year period

of

> > > > getting

> > > > > > > know

> > > > > > > > > this person more and more, and yet I have spritual

> > > > questions

> > > > > I

> > > > > > > need

> > > > > > > > > to search answers for in this connection.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > These answers, I believe will come to realization

> > through

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > mystery

> > > > > > > > > of God through my practices but I feel it could

help

> me

> > > to

> > > > > > > resolve

> > > > > > > > > more in relative action and decision making in the

big

> > > > swell

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > heart

> > > > > > > > > and spiritual conflict.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Please will a respected guru/teacher consider

teaching

> > me

> > > > > more

> > > > > > > > deeply

> > > > > > > > > about aspects of my chart in respect of spiritual

> > > progress

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > journey toward enlightnment. I wish that as many

> > > desicions

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > actions I make in life lead to my only true goals

of

> > > inner

> > > > > > > > > independent happinesss.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I will be happy to meet via messenger or if

necessary

> > to

> > > > make

> > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > questions public. Some issues are painful and I am

> > > > inclined

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > privacy but I would willingly go with what he or

she

> > > wishes.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thank you to the moderator for accepting my

> application

> > > to

> > > > > join.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Best Wishes,

> > > > > > > > > Simon Groves

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Simon,

 

Thanks for the updates, I wanted to know abt ur business as this

will help in ascertaining what business one does !!

 

Yea, You can do considerably good in property dealing, there is a

clear support -

 

" Mars, is in his own sign Scorpio in 2nd Bhava who is also a 7'th

bhava lord " .

 

I also see, you will be doing a role of patron to several

institutions, organisations going forward, Pls, take care of ur

parents health.

 

regards,

Lalit

 

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

<simon.groves1 wrote:

>

> Hi Lalit, for your studies... I can tell you that your

observations

> were very subtle and accurate....

>

> ALthough my hearts dream is to work as a property developer some

> day, I am always loving sea-shells as you spotted. I wish I

> could also make my money making necklaces from them, they are one

of

> the most beautiful objects in the world and so are precious... to

me

> a simple shell like that is worth $250 in my heart and yet it

would

> sell for such a tiny price.... so many years it took to make that

> shell... and 5 minutes for me to drill a hole and put some leather

to

> hang it....

>

>

> It is interesting..... yes my past relationship have been with

ladies

> who have taught me lots of things in study of spirituality...

>

> And to say she would be leader of some spiritual group is not far

> from accurate at all in some cases.... they seem to have all

> worshipped the Divine Mother quite consciously.

>

>

> Best wishes,

> Simon

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Simon,

> >

> > I m happy to receive ur invitation and accept it, I w'd visit ur

> place

> > when right time comes for it, Let me know first, what good god

does

> > for you, for both goals.

> >

> > I have to do analysis for you, not getting enough time, my

projects

> > release is scheduled this week and 2nd round of testing is going

on.

> >

> > Well, i m interested to know what's ur business - Are you in

> pharama

> > (medical) or in shipping or doing business of sea products. what

> dasha

> > you are running currently, pls tell that also.

> >

> > In the astrology we have discovered Yoga Karakas, Mahapurush

Yogas,

> > Raj Yogas etc... but, hardly any study happened to know Yoga

> > responsible for triggering transformation of oneself.

> >

> > Your, horoscope has some similarity with that of Mahtma Gandhi's

> > horoscope, Let me find out the degree and depth of

transformation

> > written for you in the life.

> >

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> >

> > --- In

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Lalit,

> > > God bless your dear heart... I was unsure of exactly where

you

> were

> > > coming from... All I knew is that there was mystery behind

your

> > > message.. and only that it came from a pure heart's place...

> > >

> > > An of course you can imagine why I foolishly ask you " did you

get

> > the

> > > girl lalit? " but that is just an interest in a film... my

> weakness.

> > >

> > > Outside this Lalit.. in your message today... to bear your

Soul

> in

> > > this message is touching to my painul heart... and I aslo have

an

> > > astounding TM teacher who is able to " say " go way and I love

you

> my

> > > son, metaphorically in the same sentence... I am blessed to

> receive

> > > friends like you... and this recluse I am... who hides so much

in

> > his

> > > room would welcome you with tea or water and whatevr you like

a

> good

> > > wholesome meal on any day of the week...

> > >

> > > So take that please as an open invitation... I live at presnt

> with

> > my

> > > parents... and when I tell them what you shared... they will

> welcome

> > > you at anytime I know...

> > >

> > > Outside of this I will be very happy to specifically hear you

> > thought

> > > and feelings on my chart.

> > >

> > > Thank you for understanding how head functions and heart.. I

am

> > > waiting and waiting :-)... but I feel the day is coming

relively

> > soon

> > > gainst the backdrop of my life.

> > >

> > > Natal Mars has too many words,

> > > so with Moon in transit there,

> > > Thank you,

> > > I must go and lie down, because you have seen my whole

story...

> > thank

> > > you,

> > >

> > > I feel like saying in this moment, just to my personal

taste....

> > >

> > > Jai Guru Dev

> > > Simon

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Simon,

> > > >

> > > > Love in duality can transform to love in non duality.

> > > > She is lucky that there is somebody who loves her this much.

> > > >

> > > > In your case, I can suggest you to walk towards the

> selflessness ,

> > > > such a selflessness makes u blissful, gives internal delight

> when

> > u

> > > > perceive in the external world ur emotions are not

reciprocal,

> why

> > > > so, coz, that's mere a perception.

> > > >

> > > > when u feel delighted with no cause for that, and can see

> urself

> > in

> > > > other beings heart, u become successful in ur love. u should

> find

> > > > urself in other's heart ... !!

> > > >

> > > > Right now, You find her in ur heart, this is half of the

whole

> > > > chemistry.

> > > >

> > > > when i was in my twenties, I undergone same phase of life

that

> u r

> > > > undsergoing today, I could get God's vision, could speak to

God

> at

> > > > his will and sometimes i felt at my will also, could insist

to

> God

> > > to

> > > > get things as per my wishes ...., I didn't know where that

girl

> > was

> > > > living and i had no communication with her, was not knowing

her

> > > cell

> > > > no but i wanted to have a glimpse of her, wanted to meet

her, i

> > was

> > > > meeting, How, I was asking God, where she will come today,

and

> > > going

> > > > to the place echoing within in answers to questions that i

was

> > > asking

> > > > to God, and without any failure i was meeting her.

> > > >

> > > > Though, I could see the God, I couldn't generate same love

in

> her

> > > > heart ....... i was in deep pain, I was thinking I m in

love,

> no,

> > i

> > > > was not, in fact, I was loving my expectations of being

close

> to

> > > her,

> > > > expectations of her knowing how special she is for me ...

etc...

> > > >

> > > > True love happens within, no external object is required.

make

> > > urself

> > > > free from expectations, then there is enlightenments and

love

> > > > togather.

> > > >

> > > > but, whatever it is, whatever i m saying to you, I wish the

God

> to

> > > > make u happy in love.

> > > >

> > > > Will speak astrologically little later.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lalit

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Bless you Lalit,

> > > > > I tell you I never in all my days dreamed a woman could

> capture

> > a

> > > > > mans heart the way this lady has, she has broken me when I

> > needed

> > > > to

> > > > > break, built me up when I was down, and all with spirit

> alone,

> > of

> > > > > course with eyes to melt the heart of my feeling. It is

her

> > > sight

> > > > > that takes my breath away and almost absolute modesty and

> simple

> > > > Moon

> > > > > spirit. In her company I am in church with holy water

and a

> > > font.

> > > > > I feel her as the ishta Devta I struggle to worship, Maha

> Durga.

> > > > >

> > > > > I will wait until I hear from you, and thank you for what

is

> > your

> > > > > romantic heart also in wishing I 'get the girl' and then

> > > > > enlightenment... but isnt that what we all wish when we

watch

> a

> > > > good

> > > > > film?

> > > > >

> > > > > It is what I wish also because I honestly did not know

that

> > > another

> > > > > human can transform anothers life so deeply inside,

bringing

> me

> > > to

> > > > > face the most beutiful and uncomfortable truths of my

> journey.

> > > And

> > > > > so in my heart I wish one day to protect her, as her karma

is

> > > > > difficult often and Shani also brings her sparse living,

and

> > > still

> > > > > she is holy in respect. I wish to protect her from the

> > lonliness

> > > > > that she treads as a seeker in an English society where

her

> > gifts

> > > > are

> > > > > most often seen as " odd " " wierd " etc...

> > > > >

> > > > > So yes I also would like to deserve her one day to be her

> > > companion

> > > > > and helper and learn from her... and yes I hope as I feel

> that

> > > she

> > > > > would bring me closer to enlightenment as she has

already.

> For

> > > 8

> > > > > years I have loved constantly and only the next antardasha

> may

> > > tell

> > > > > the next part of our adventure, whether my Mercury (9th

Lord)

> > > will

> > > > > bring some stronger spirituality in me that deserves to

sit

> with

> > > > her

> > > > > as a companion. She does know how purely I 'see' her

and

> she

> > > > says

> > > > > this is profound and I see her heart hoping.

> > > > >

> > > > > ANd she is mature and will wait to see what remians of me

> when

> > > > > this 'ilness' has washed through me.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > It must be Venus exalted at present. You can see I am in

> love,

> > > > and

> > > > > for so long deepening more, but the course of my life as

has

> so

> > > far

> > > > > been holds no promises or guarantees, I will just do my

> practice

> > > > > daily and see what happens with my deservedness.

> > > > >

> > > > > So my current goal is both... when I feel my ishta Devta

near

> > > > > (occasionally) in spirit the lady I mention also drifts

> > > seemlessly

> > > > in

> > > > > the vision and then I hope even more as ishta Devata and

> karaka

> > > for

> > > > > spouse are both Moon.

> > > > >

> > > > > She knows I am facing issues and need, and cant avoid

> solitude,

> > > > and

> > > > > so she has asked for us to not meet until March 10 2009

and

> see

> > > > what

> > > > > we have before us then... it tastes so much of a divine

high

> > > > > romance... I try not to hope and just be in present.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you, Your comments will be comforting,

> > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > Simon

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Pls wait till tomorrow, well, I w'd like to know what's

ur

> > > > current

> > > > > > goal, to get enlightened or to get love or to get both.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I wish you to get love first and then settle for

> > enlightenment.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > Lalit

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Lalit & anyone who has read this thread,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please forgive my impatience in my life, :-) I

understand

> > > that

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > transits are making my quest for self understanding

and

> > > teaching

> > > > > > > far too urgent.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lalit if you wish to comment it might be fun, but is

> this

> > > > about

> > > > > > fun

> > > > > > > also? I am far too serious I think?!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > At least I hope I made some people chuckle. I have a

lot

> to

> > > > learn

> > > > > > > about myself yet. Thankfully I was taught something

> this

> > > > > morning

> > > > > > by

> > > > > > > a tiny bird in the garden!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > > Simon Groves

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > > > >

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, And Sr astrologers,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please find my chart details:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Appleton (England, UK) 2W33 53N21

> > > > > > > > 11 October 1967

> > > > > > > > 08:48 (am)

> > > > > > > > Daylight Savings +1,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Due to current mental turbulence of planets

transiting

> > over

> > > > > natal

> > > > > > > > Moon's house. I can't, for a little while at least,

> enter

> > > > into

> > > > > > > much

> > > > > > > > of the philosophical exchange I like. My concerns

are

> > > > > practical

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > managing karma in the most sensible way for inner

> growth.

> > > > > Please

> > > > > > > > help me with your experience, it will be helpful to

> talk

> > to

> > > > > > someone

> > > > > > > > who is especially interested or experienced in

> spiritual

> > > life

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > charts.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lalit thank you, I will be interested to hear your

> > thoughts

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > feelings - my planets are in...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lagna - Chitra

> > > > > > > > Sun (12th) in Chitra (12th House)

> > > > > > > > Ketu (Asc) in Chitra (Ascendent)

> > > > > > > > Mercury (Asc) Swathi

> > > > > > > > Moon (4th) in Uttarashadha

> > > > > > > > Mars (2nd) in Jyestha

> > > > > > > > Saturn (6th) in Uttarabhadrapada

> > > > > > > > Rahu (7th) in Ashwini

> > > > > > > > Jupiter (11th) in Magha

> > > > > > > > Venus (11th) in Magha

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Although it is not appropriate to discuss my

specific

> > > > > > relationship

> > > > > > > > with a lady I mentioned as it is quite a saga of

> support

> > > and

> > > > > deep

> > > > > > > > friendship... she also has the Ketu ascendent and

Rahu

> in

> > > 7th.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The difficulty is the love generated by this ongoing

> story

> > > > with

> > > > > > > > her... also I experience deep enhancement of my

> spiritual

> > > > > > devotion

> > > > > > > > and experience ... she is a Ketu-Rahu -1-7 axis

> > Sagittarius-

> > > > asc

> > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > a very potent spiritual chart, with Moon having

> > remarkeable

> > > > > > > Shadbala

> > > > > > > > points in 7th in Gemini. So such a woman brings

my

> > > > questions

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > what will be most helpful in my life in respect of

> > > > > enlightenment

> > > > > > > > goals and relationships to a most important level.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I don't expect to quieten this testing emotional

> challenge

> > > > > > > > immediately in respect to the lady, as our love

story

> > > > continues

> > > > > > > > toward success or failure in a mysterious way

always,

> and

> > > it

> > > > > has

> > > > > > > > developed over 8 years. But I practice proper

> meditation

> > > and

> > > > > just

> > > > > > > go

> > > > > > > > with watching my self as best I can... I feel I am

> making

> > > > > > progress

> > > > > > > > one step at a time.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please forgive the use of so many words, with my

> Mercury

> > > > > > placement

> > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > find it hard to summarize when I talk of 'me'.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Simon

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You have not told us about Saturn and Mar's

position

> in

> > > ur

> > > > > > > > horoscope.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Group has experienced Sr astrologers except for

me,

> > > kindly

> > > > > post

> > > > > > > > full

> > > > > > > > > details of ur's horoscope, both lagna and navamsha

> along

> > > > with

> > > > > > > > > nakschhtra occupied by planets,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I hope they as well as I will do honest and

sincere

> > > effort

> > > > to

> > > > > > > look

> > > > > > > > > into ur life.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > >

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I have joined here today looking for very

sensitive

> > > > > guidance

> > > > > > on

> > > > > > > > > > my spiritual path. With Rahu-Ketu 7-1 axis,

with

> > Libra

> > > > > > > ascendent

> > > > > > > > > > (mercury with Ketu) and Sun in 12th, my life is

a

> > > > constant

> > > > > > > flow

> > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > lessons, and I am embracing these as I go

through

> > life.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > But in the area of Love, as a Libran these

lessons

> are

> > > > the

> > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > > > challenging and up until now the most painful.

I

> have

> > > at

> > > > > > last

> > > > > > > > > fallen

> > > > > > > > > > in Love with someone's Soul, over an 8 year

period

> of

> > > > > getting

> > > > > > > > know

> > > > > > > > > > this person more and more, and yet I have

spritual

> > > > > questions

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > need

> > > > > > > > > > to search answers for in this connection.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > These answers, I believe will come to

realization

> > > through

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > mystery

> > > > > > > > > > of God through my practices but I feel it could

> help

> > me

> > > > to

> > > > > > > > resolve

> > > > > > > > > > more in relative action and decision making in

the

> big

> > > > > swell

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > heart

> > > > > > > > > > and spiritual conflict.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Please will a respected guru/teacher consider

> teaching

> > > me

> > > > > > more

> > > > > > > > > deeply

> > > > > > > > > > about aspects of my chart in respect of

spiritual

> > > > progress

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > journey toward enlightnment. I wish that as

many

> > > > desicions

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > actions I make in life lead to my only true

goals

> of

> > > > inner

> > > > > > > > > > independent happinesss.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I will be happy to meet via messenger or if

> necessary

> > > to

> > > > > make

> > > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > questions public. Some issues are painful and I

am

> > > > > inclined

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > privacy but I would willingly go with what he or

> she

> > > > wishes.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thank you to the moderator for accepting my

> > application

> > > > to

> > > > > > join.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes,

> > > > > > > > > > Simon Groves

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Lalit,

 

This group is very nice to be around..... it seems only lovely things

come of being here... very beautiful place to be... and so little

need for moderators to be policemen or women which is very good!

 

Lalit you are good to offer Jyotish advice that comes from a

brotherhood of caring and affection.... my heart is on its way to

opening and then my words may not sound so much like Spock of star

trek! When my heart feels diffrently to my way of expressing.

 

I wish I could return your kindness with Jyotish knowledge but I am a

strange kid when it comes to Jyotish.. I can talk about my chart so

easily as... well its obvious its self insight.. in time maybe I can

find insight others charts more.

 

Lalit it is very very interesting that you mention my parents...

At presnt all is fine and they are good to give me respite and

shelter, but I do fear what will become of Mother if step father

goes on to the next place first... and she is left alone...

 

As a couple she is dynamic and intelligent but alone she crumbles to

a girl.... in lonliness and sadness, I have noticed and so I wonder

about the future...

 

Please can you just say what it was you see in that respect to

looking after parents?

 

With my siblings and stepsiblings I have long benseen as the poor boy

of health... but with meditation and yoga it feels as though tables

are turning... and I noticed my step sister comment that she hoped I

would care for her father and my mum... which from her is touching

praise.

 

I would normally be the last perosn my family would ask that of....

and so Im interested what the chart suggests with this? Is it to do

with Moon. or Mars maybe?

 

Thank you friend thank you,

 

Best wishes,

Simon

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

<mishra.lalit wrote:

>

> Dear Simon,

>

> Thanks for the updates, I wanted to know abt ur business as this

> will help in ascertaining what business one does !!

>

> Yea, You can do considerably good in property dealing, there is a

> clear support -

>

> " Mars, is in his own sign Scorpio in 2nd Bhava who is also a 7'th

> bhava lord " .

>

> I also see, you will be doing a role of patron to several

> institutions, organisations going forward, Pls, take care of ur

> parents health.

>

> regards,

> Lalit

>

>

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Lalit, for your studies... I can tell you that your

> observations

> > were very subtle and accurate....

> >

> > ALthough my hearts dream is to work as a property developer some

> > day, I am always loving sea-shells as you spotted. I wish I

> > could also make my money making necklaces from them, they are

one

> of

> > the most beautiful objects in the world and so are precious... to

> me

> > a simple shell like that is worth $250 in my heart and yet it

> would

> > sell for such a tiny price.... so many years it took to make that

> > shell... and 5 minutes for me to drill a hole and put some

leather

> to

> > hang it....

> >

> >

> > It is interesting..... yes my past relationship have been with

> ladies

> > who have taught me lots of things in study of spirituality...

> >

> > And to say she would be leader of some spiritual group is not far

> > from accurate at all in some cases.... they seem to have all

> > worshipped the Divine Mother quite consciously.

> >

> >

> > Best wishes,

> > Simon

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Simon,

> > >

> > > I m happy to receive ur invitation and accept it, I w'd visit

ur

> > place

> > > when right time comes for it, Let me know first, what good god

> does

> > > for you, for both goals.

> > >

> > > I have to do analysis for you, not getting enough time, my

> projects

> > > release is scheduled this week and 2nd round of testing is

going

> on.

> > >

> > > Well, i m interested to know what's ur business - Are you in

> > pharama

> > > (medical) or in shipping or doing business of sea products.

what

> > dasha

> > > you are running currently, pls tell that also.

> > >

> > > In the astrology we have discovered Yoga Karakas, Mahapurush

> Yogas,

> > > Raj Yogas etc... but, hardly any study happened to know Yoga

> > > responsible for triggering transformation of oneself.

> > >

> > > Your, horoscope has some similarity with that of Mahtma

Gandhi's

> > > horoscope, Let me find out the degree and depth of

> transformation

> > > written for you in the life.

> > >

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit.

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lalit,

> > > > God bless your dear heart... I was unsure of exactly where

> you

> > were

> > > > coming from... All I knew is that there was mystery behind

> your

> > > > message.. and only that it came from a pure heart's place...

> > > >

> > > > An of course you can imagine why I foolishly ask you " did you

> get

> > > the

> > > > girl lalit? " but that is just an interest in a film... my

> > weakness.

> > > >

> > > > Outside this Lalit.. in your message today... to bear your

> Soul

> > in

> > > > this message is touching to my painul heart... and I aslo

have

> an

> > > > astounding TM teacher who is able to " say " go way and I love

> you

> > my

> > > > son, metaphorically in the same sentence... I am blessed to

> > receive

> > > > friends like you... and this recluse I am... who hides so

much

> in

> > > his

> > > > room would welcome you with tea or water and whatevr you like

> a

> > good

> > > > wholesome meal on any day of the week...

> > > >

> > > > So take that please as an open invitation... I live at presnt

> > with

> > > my

> > > > parents... and when I tell them what you shared... they will

> > welcome

> > > > you at anytime I know...

> > > >

> > > > Outside of this I will be very happy to specifically hear you

> > > thought

> > > > and feelings on my chart.

> > > >

> > > > Thank you for understanding how head functions and heart.. I

> am

> > > > waiting and waiting :-)... but I feel the day is coming

> relively

> > > soon

> > > > gainst the backdrop of my life.

> > > >

> > > > Natal Mars has too many words,

> > > > so with Moon in transit there,

> > > > Thank you,

> > > > I must go and lie down, because you have seen my whole

> story...

> > > thank

> > > > you,

> > > >

> > > > I feel like saying in this moment, just to my personal

> taste....

> > > >

> > > > Jai Guru Dev

> > > > Simon

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > >

> > > > > Love in duality can transform to love in non duality.

> > > > > She is lucky that there is somebody who loves her this much.

> > > > >

> > > > > In your case, I can suggest you to walk towards the

> > selflessness ,

> > > > > such a selflessness makes u blissful, gives internal

delight

> > when

> > > u

> > > > > perceive in the external world ur emotions are not

> reciprocal,

> > why

> > > > > so, coz, that's mere a perception.

> > > > >

> > > > > when u feel delighted with no cause for that, and can see

> > urself

> > > in

> > > > > other beings heart, u become successful in ur love. u

should

> > find

> > > > > urself in other's heart ... !!

> > > > >

> > > > > Right now, You find her in ur heart, this is half of the

> whole

> > > > > chemistry.

> > > > >

> > > > > when i was in my twenties, I undergone same phase of life

> that

> > u r

> > > > > undsergoing today, I could get God's vision, could speak to

> God

> > at

> > > > > his will and sometimes i felt at my will also, could insist

> to

> > God

> > > > to

> > > > > get things as per my wishes ...., I didn't know where that

> girl

> > > was

> > > > > living and i had no communication with her, was not knowing

> her

> > > > cell

> > > > > no but i wanted to have a glimpse of her, wanted to meet

> her, i

> > > was

> > > > > meeting, How, I was asking God, where she will come today,

> and

> > > > going

> > > > > to the place echoing within in answers to questions that i

> was

> > > > asking

> > > > > to God, and without any failure i was meeting her.

> > > > >

> > > > > Though, I could see the God, I couldn't generate same love

> in

> > her

> > > > > heart ....... i was in deep pain, I was thinking I m in

> love,

> > no,

> > > i

> > > > > was not, in fact, I was loving my expectations of being

> close

> > to

> > > > her,

> > > > > expectations of her knowing how special she is for me ...

> etc...

> > > > >

> > > > > True love happens within, no external object is required.

> make

> > > > urself

> > > > > free from expectations, then there is enlightenments and

> love

> > > > > togather.

> > > > >

> > > > > but, whatever it is, whatever i m saying to you, I wish the

> God

> > to

> > > > > make u happy in love.

> > > > >

> > > > > Will speak astrologically little later.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Lalit

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bless you Lalit,

> > > > > > I tell you I never in all my days dreamed a woman could

> > capture

> > > a

> > > > > > mans heart the way this lady has, she has broken me when

I

> > > needed

> > > > > to

> > > > > > break, built me up when I was down, and all with spirit

> > alone,

> > > of

> > > > > > course with eyes to melt the heart of my feeling. It is

> her

> > > > sight

> > > > > > that takes my breath away and almost absolute modesty and

> > simple

> > > > > Moon

> > > > > > spirit. In her company I am in church with holy water

> and a

> > > > font.

> > > > > > I feel her as the ishta Devta I struggle to worship, Maha

> > Durga.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I will wait until I hear from you, and thank you for what

> is

> > > your

> > > > > > romantic heart also in wishing I 'get the girl' and then

> > > > > > enlightenment... but isnt that what we all wish when we

> watch

> > a

> > > > > good

> > > > > > film?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It is what I wish also because I honestly did not know

> that

> > > > another

> > > > > > human can transform anothers life so deeply inside,

> bringing

> > me

> > > > to

> > > > > > face the most beutiful and uncomfortable truths of my

> > journey.

> > > > And

> > > > > > so in my heart I wish one day to protect her, as her

karma

> is

> > > > > > difficult often and Shani also brings her sparse living,

> and

> > > > still

> > > > > > she is holy in respect. I wish to protect her from the

> > > lonliness

> > > > > > that she treads as a seeker in an English society where

> her

> > > gifts

> > > > > are

> > > > > > most often seen as " odd " " wierd " etc...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So yes I also would like to deserve her one day to be her

> > > > companion

> > > > > > and helper and learn from her... and yes I hope as I feel

> > that

> > > > she

> > > > > > would bring me closer to enlightenment as she has

> already.

> > For

> > > > 8

> > > > > > years I have loved constantly and only the next

antardasha

> > may

> > > > tell

> > > > > > the next part of our adventure, whether my Mercury (9th

> Lord)

> > > > will

> > > > > > bring some stronger spirituality in me that deserves to

> sit

> > with

> > > > > her

> > > > > > as a companion. She does know how purely I 'see' her

> and

> > she

> > > > > says

> > > > > > this is profound and I see her heart hoping.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ANd she is mature and will wait to see what remians of me

> > when

> > > > > > this 'ilness' has washed through me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It must be Venus exalted at present. You can see I am

in

> > love,

> > > > > and

> > > > > > for so long deepening more, but the course of my life as

> has

> > so

> > > > far

> > > > > > been holds no promises or guarantees, I will just do my

> > practice

> > > > > > daily and see what happens with my deservedness.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So my current goal is both... when I feel my ishta Devta

> near

> > > > > > (occasionally) in spirit the lady I mention also drifts

> > > > seemlessly

> > > > > in

> > > > > > the vision and then I hope even more as ishta Devata and

> > karaka

> > > > for

> > > > > > spouse are both Moon.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > She knows I am facing issues and need, and cant avoid

> > solitude,

> > > > > and

> > > > > > so she has asked for us to not meet until March 10 2009

> and

> > see

> > > > > what

> > > > > > we have before us then... it tastes so much of a divine

> high

> > > > > > romance... I try not to hope and just be in present.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank you, Your comments will be comforting,

> > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > Simon

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Pls wait till tomorrow, well, I w'd like to know what's

> ur

> > > > > current

> > > > > > > goal, to get enlightened or to get love or to get both.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I wish you to get love first and then settle for

> > > enlightenment.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > Lalit

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Lalit & anyone who has read this thread,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please forgive my impatience in my life, :-) I

> understand

> > > > that

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > transits are making my quest for self understanding

> and

> > > > teaching

> > > > > > > > far too urgent.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lalit if you wish to comment it might be fun, but is

> > this

> > > > > about

> > > > > > > fun

> > > > > > > > also? I am far too serious I think?!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > At least I hope I made some people chuckle. I have a

> lot

> > to

> > > > > learn

> > > > > > > > about myself yet. Thankfully I was taught something

> > this

> > > > > > morning

> > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > a tiny bird in the garden!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > > > Simon Groves

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > >

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Lalit, And Sr astrologers,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Please find my chart details:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Appleton (England, UK) 2W33 53N21

> > > > > > > > > 11 October 1967

> > > > > > > > > 08:48 (am)

> > > > > > > > > Daylight Savings +1,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Due to current mental turbulence of planets

> transiting

> > > over

> > > > > > natal

> > > > > > > > > Moon's house. I can't, for a little while at

least,

> > enter

> > > > > into

> > > > > > > > much

> > > > > > > > > of the philosophical exchange I like. My concerns

> are

> > > > > > practical

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > managing karma in the most sensible way for inner

> > growth.

> > > > > > Please

> > > > > > > > > help me with your experience, it will be helpful to

> > talk

> > > to

> > > > > > > someone

> > > > > > > > > who is especially interested or experienced in

> > spiritual

> > > > life

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > charts.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lalit thank you, I will be interested to hear your

> > > thoughts

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > feelings - my planets are in...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lagna - Chitra

> > > > > > > > > Sun (12th) in Chitra (12th House)

> > > > > > > > > Ketu (Asc) in Chitra (Ascendent)

> > > > > > > > > Mercury (Asc) Swathi

> > > > > > > > > Moon (4th) in Uttarashadha

> > > > > > > > > Mars (2nd) in Jyestha

> > > > > > > > > Saturn (6th) in Uttarabhadrapada

> > > > > > > > > Rahu (7th) in Ashwini

> > > > > > > > > Jupiter (11th) in Magha

> > > > > > > > > Venus (11th) in Magha

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Although it is not appropriate to discuss my

> specific

> > > > > > > relationship

> > > > > > > > > with a lady I mentioned as it is quite a saga of

> > support

> > > > and

> > > > > > deep

> > > > > > > > > friendship... she also has the Ketu ascendent and

> Rahu

> > in

> > > > 7th.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The difficulty is the love generated by this

ongoing

> > story

> > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > her... also I experience deep enhancement of my

> > spiritual

> > > > > > > devotion

> > > > > > > > > and experience ... she is a Ketu-Rahu -1-7 axis

> > > Sagittarius-

> > > > > asc

> > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > a very potent spiritual chart, with Moon having

> > > remarkeable

> > > > > > > > Shadbala

> > > > > > > > > points in 7th in Gemini. So such a woman brings

> my

> > > > > questions

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > what will be most helpful in my life in respect of

> > > > > > enlightenment

> > > > > > > > > goals and relationships to a most important level.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I don't expect to quieten this testing emotional

> > challenge

> > > > > > > > > immediately in respect to the lady, as our love

> story

> > > > > continues

> > > > > > > > > toward success or failure in a mysterious way

> always,

> > and

> > > > it

> > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > developed over 8 years. But I practice proper

> > meditation

> > > > and

> > > > > > just

> > > > > > > > go

> > > > > > > > > with watching my self as best I can... I feel I am

> > making

> > > > > > > progress

> > > > > > > > > one step at a time.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Please forgive the use of so many words, with my

> > Mercury

> > > > > > > placement

> > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > find it hard to summarize when I talk of 'me'.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Simon

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > > > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Simon,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > You have not told us about Saturn and Mar's

> position

> > in

> > > > ur

> > > > > > > > > horoscope.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Group has experienced Sr astrologers except for

> me,

> > > > kindly

> > > > > > post

> > > > > > > > > full

> > > > > > > > > > details of ur's horoscope, both lagna and

navamsha

> > along

> > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > nakschhtra occupied by planets,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I hope they as well as I will do honest and

> sincere

> > > > effort

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > > look

> > > > > > > > > > into ur life.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > > >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " simon.groves123 "

> > > > > > > > > > <simon.groves1@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I have joined here today looking for very

> sensitive

> > > > > > guidance

> > > > > > > on

> > > > > > > > > > > my spiritual path. With Rahu-Ketu 7-1 axis,

> with

> > > Libra

> > > > > > > > ascendent

> > > > > > > > > > > (mercury with Ketu) and Sun in 12th, my life

is

> a

> > > > > constant

> > > > > > > > flow

> > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > lessons, and I am embracing these as I go

> through

> > > life.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > But in the area of Love, as a Libran these

> lessons

> > are

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > > > > challenging and up until now the most painful.

> I

> > have

> > > > at

> > > > > > > last

> > > > > > > > > > fallen

> > > > > > > > > > > in Love with someone's Soul, over an 8 year

> period

> > of

> > > > > > getting

> > > > > > > > > know

> > > > > > > > > > > this person more and more, and yet I have

> spritual

> > > > > > questions

> > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > need

> > > > > > > > > > > to search answers for in this connection.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > These answers, I believe will come to

> realization

> > > > through

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > mystery

> > > > > > > > > > > of God through my practices but I feel it could

> > help

> > > me

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > resolve

> > > > > > > > > > > more in relative action and decision making in

> the

> > big

> > > > > > swell

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > heart

> > > > > > > > > > > and spiritual conflict.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Please will a respected guru/teacher consider

> > teaching

> > > > me

> > > > > > > more

> > > > > > > > > > deeply

> > > > > > > > > > > about aspects of my chart in respect of

> spiritual

> > > > > progress

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > journey toward enlightnment. I wish that as

> many

> > > > > desicions

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > actions I make in life lead to my only true

> goals

> > of

> > > > > inner

> > > > > > > > > > > independent happinesss.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I will be happy to meet via messenger or if

> > necessary

> > > > to

> > > > > > make

> > > > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > > questions public. Some issues are painful and

I

> am

> > > > > > inclined

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > privacy but I would willingly go with what he

or

> > she

> > > > > wishes.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thank you to the moderator for accepting my

> > > application

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > join.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes,

> > > > > > > > > > > Simon Groves

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>