Guest guest Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 Dear Saurabh, Your input is very important to all of us, It's not expected from Venus MahaDasha as it's exalted in Libra and placed in Lagna itself, may be we can conclude, 8'th lordship still works. So, I think " Death-Inflictuing " is not correct interpretition, let's find out a fitting term like " GHATAK " for such a venus, let's check the same in Mahtma Ganghi's life. Pls make his horoscope and cross check the same with his life. regards, Lalit Vedic Astrologyandhealing , saurabh chaturvedi <chaturvedisaurabh2002 wrote: > > Dear Lalit Sir and Members, >  > As you know I also have Venus in Libra ascendant. I completed the Venus mahadasha in 2004. During this long period (20 years), I majorly fell ill 3-4 times. I got a major operation in my left leg, suffered from jaundice etc. But coundn't observed the death-inflicing strength in this period. > But not sure that the bhukti of venus might be capable of as a killer. > Only future would guide us. >  > Thanks and Regards, >  saurabh > " Kuchh Sapanon Ke Mar Jaane Se, Jeevan Nahin Maraa Karataa Hai " >  > >  >  > > --- On Mon, 16/3/09, litsol <mishra.lalit wrote: > > > litsol <mishra.lalit > [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: Exceptions for Libra ascendant… > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > Monday, 16 March, 2009, 7:40 PM Dear Saurabh, > > Thanks a lot, This info will definitely help our astrologer members and particularly those who came here from SJC and other schools, > > I have fond 2 of these 3 exceptions are correct, But, i m yet to find a case of Libra in which Venus acts like a death inflicting planet, What's ur own experience ? > > Let's wait what other do speak on it. > > regards, > Lalit > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, saurabh chaturvedi <chaturvedisaurabh2 002@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Members, > > > > I noticed three exceptions regarding the Libra ascendant in the book ‘Bhavarth Ratnakar’, as follows: > > > > 1) Mars--- Though the lord of 2nd and 7th , it does not become the death-inflicting planet. > > [Reference- Bhavarth Ratnakar, Libra Ascendant: Stanza-2] > > > > 2) Jupiter--- Jupiter is the lord of the 3rd as well as 6th, but it is capable of producing of Yoga. > > [Reference- Bhavarth Ratnakar, Libra Ascendant: Stanza-1] > > > > 3) Venus--- Venus becomes a killer, if it is in the ascendant. > > [Reference- Bhavarth Ratnakar, Libra Ascendant: Stanza-13] > > > > What does your experience suggest? > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > saurabh > > ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* **** > > " Kuchh Sapanon Ke Mar Jaane Se, Jeevan Nahin Maraa Karataa Hai "    > > > > > > Explore your hobbies and interests. Go to http://in.promos. / groups/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 Namaskar, So what is the correct time or chart for Mohandas Gandhi Set one from site http://www.astrodatabank.com/NM/GandhiMohandas.htm Quoted from the site Birth Name: Gandhi, MohandasBirth Date: 10/02/1869 (Oct. 02, 1869)Birth Time: 07:11:48 (07:11:48 AM) LMT (-4:38)Birth Place: Porbandar, IndiaLatitude / Longitude: 21 N 38 / 69 E 36 Rodden Rating / Source: C / CautionSource Notes: Fagan in AFA 3/l948 gives " Shake 1791, Bhadrapad Vadya 12th, three Ghatis and 12 Palas after sunrise, from Yeshawant K. Pradhan in " Voice of India, " 2/24, confirmed by Ramon, who nonetheless gave 7:56 AM IST as his translation. " Much later, in American Astrology 10/1976, Fagan gave 2:29:48 AM GMT which equals 7:08:12 AM LMT of Porbandar.Various other times were given for around sunrise. Wemyss Famous Nativities No.63 gives " one hour, 16 minutes 48 seconds after sunrise. " Notable Nativities No.242 gives 7:09 AM LMT. Huggins gives 7:45 AM LMT in " The Astrology Magazine, " 1/1970. Sabian Symbols No.367 gives 7:33 AM. Bordoni quotes Barbault for 11:00 AM.(Thiruvenkatacharya gives 11:00 PM, rectified, in " the Astrology Magazine, " 12/1966.) " M.K. Gandhi: An Autobiography, " translated by Mahadev Desai, Penguin, 1982, p.21 gives the date.Biography: Mike Nicholson, " Mahatma Gandhi, " Exley Publications Ltd, 1987, p.57-58 gives the date. On 17/03/2009, litsol <mishra.lalit wrote: Dear Saurabh, Your input is very important to all of us, It's not expected from Venus MahaDasha as it's exalted in Libra and placed in Lagna itself, may be we can conclude, 8'th lordship still works. So, I think " Death-Inflictuing " is not correct interpretition, let's find out a fitting term like " GHATAK " for such a venus, let's check the same in Mahtma Ganghi's life. Pls make his horoscope and cross check the same with his life. regards, Lalit Vedic Astrologyandhealing , saurabh chaturvedi <chaturvedisaurabh2002 wrote: > > Dear Lalit Sir and Members, >  > As you know I also have Venus in Libra ascendant. I completed the Venus mahadasha in 2004. During this long period (20 years), I majorly fell ill 3-4 times. I got a major operation in my left leg, suffered from jaundice etc. But coundn't observed the death-inflicing strength in this period. > But not sure that the bhukti of venus might be capable of as a killer. > Only future would guide us. >  > Thanks and Regards, >  saurabh > " Kuchh Sapanon Ke Mar Jaane Se, Jeevan Nahin Maraa Karataa Hai " >  > >  >  > > --- On Mon, 16/3/09, litsol <mishra.lalit wrote: > > > litsol <mishra.lalit > [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: Exceptions for Libra ascendant… > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > Monday, 16 March, 2009, 7:40 PM > > > > > > > Dear Saurabh, > > Thanks a lot, This info will definitely help our astrologer members and particularly those who came here from SJC and other schools, > > I have fond 2 of these 3 exceptions are correct, But, i m yet to find a case of Libra in which Venus acts like a death inflicting planet, What's ur own experience ? > > Let's wait what other do speak on it. > > regards, > Lalit > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, saurabh chaturvedi <chaturvedisaurabh2 002@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Members, > > > > I noticed three exceptions regarding the Libra ascendant in the book ‘Bhavarth Ratnakar’, as follows: > > > > 1) Mars--- Though the lord of 2nd and 7th , it does not become the death-inflicting planet. > > [Reference- Bhavarth Ratnakar, Libra Ascendant: Stanza-2] > > > > 2) Jupiter--- Jupiter is the lord of the 3rd as well as 6th, but it is capable of producing of Yoga. > > [Reference- Bhavarth Ratnakar, Libra Ascendant: Stanza-1] > > > > 3) Venus--- Venus becomes a killer, if it is in the ascendant. > > [Reference- Bhavarth Ratnakar, Libra Ascendant: Stanza-13] > > > > What does your experience suggest? > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > saurabh > > ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* **** > > " Kuchh Sapanon Ke Mar Jaane Se, Jeevan Nahin Maraa Karataa Hai "    > > > > > > Explore your hobbies and interests. Go to http://in.promos. / groups/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ > --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 Namaskar, The previous mail was sent before i had completed it.I am bit confused with the times giving in various sites with and without the source of time.i mailed one link - which has tken the local mean time of birth as 7.11.48 and has considered other times like 7.56 IST, 7.8.12 and 7.09Another site say it is 7.33 am http://www.khaldea.com/charts/gandhi.shtml Dr. BV Rama give " Birth Details.—Born on 2nd October 1869 at 7-45 a.m. (L.M.T.)(Lat 21° 37° N., Long. 69° 49 E.) " which to select? Thanks Nandana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 Hi Saurabh, Pls check what's the time u do have, i remember, once u posted the same when i was studying Rahu/Rahu for Rup Sir. regards, Lalit Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Nandana astro <nandanaastro wrote: > > Namaskar, > > > So what is the correct time or chart for Mohandas Gandhi > > Set one from site > http://www.astrodatabank.com/NM/GandhiMohandas.htm <javascript:void(0);> > > Quoted from the site > > Birth Name: Gandhi, Mohandas > Birth 10/02/1869 (Oct. 02, 1869) > Birth Time: 07:11:48 (07:11:48 AM) LMT (-4:38) > Birth Place: Porbandar, India > Latitude / Longitude: 21 N 38 / 69 E 36 > Rodden Rating / Source: C / Caution > > Source Notes: Fagan in AFA 3/l948 gives " Shake 1791, Bhadrapad Vadya 12th, > three Ghatis and 12 Palas after sunrise, from Yeshawant K. Pradhan in " Voice > of India, " 2/24, confirmed by Ramon, > > who nonetheless gave 7:56 AM IST as his translation. " Much later, in > American Astrology 10/1976, Fagan gave 2:29:48 AM GMT which equals 7:08:12 > AM LMT of Porbandar. > > Various other times were given for around sunrise. Wemyss Famous Nativities > No.63 gives " one hour, 16 minutes 48 seconds after sunrise. " Notable > Nativities No.242 gives 7:09 AM LMT. > > Huggins gives 7:45 AM LMT in " The Astrology Magazine, " 1/1970. Sabian > Symbols No.367 gives 7:33 AM. Bordoni quotes Barbault for 11:00 > AM.(Thiruvenkatacharya gives 11:00 PM, rectified, in " the Astrology > Magazine, " 12/1966.) > > " M.K. Gandhi: An Autobiography, " translated by Mahadev Desai, Penguin, 1982, > p.21 gives the date. > > Biography: Mike Nicholson, " Mahatma Gandhi, " Exley Publications Ltd, 1987, > p.57-58 gives the date. > --\ ------------------------------- > > > > > > On 17/03/2009, litsol <mishra.lalit wrote: > > > > Dear Saurabh, > > > > Your input is very important to all of us, It's not expected from Venus > > MahaDasha as it's exalted in Libra and placed in Lagna itself, may be we can > > conclude, 8'th lordship still works. > > > > So, I think " Death-Inflictuing " is not correct interpretition, let's find > > out a fitting term like " GHATAK " for such a venus, let's check the same in > > Mahtma Ganghi's life. > > > > Pls make his horoscope and cross check the same with his life. > > > > regards, > > Lalit > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , saurabh chaturvedi > > <chaturvedisaurabh2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lalit Sir and Members, > > >  > > > As you know I also have Venus in Libra ascendant. I completed the Venus > > mahadasha in 2004. During this long period (20 years), I majorly fell ill > > 3-4 times. I got a major operation in my left leg, suffered from > > jaundice etc. But coundn't observed the death-inflicing strength in this > > period. > > > But not sure that the bhukti of venus might be capable of as a killer. > > > Only future would guide us. > > >  > > > Thanks and Regards, > > >  saurabh > > > " Kuchh Sapanon Ke Mar Jaane Se, Jeevan Nahin Maraa Karataa Hai " > > >  > > > > > >  > > >  > > > > > > --- On Mon, 16/3/09, litsol <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > litsol <mishra.lalit@> > > > [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: Exceptions for Libra > > ascendant… > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > > Monday, 16 March, 2009, 7:40 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Saurabh, > > > > > > Thanks a lot, This info will definitely help our astrologer members and > > particularly those who came here from SJC and other schools, > > > > > > I have fond 2 of these 3 exceptions are correct, But, i m yet to find a > > case of Libra in which Venus acts like a death inflicting planet, What's ur > > own experience ? > > > > > > Let's wait what other do speak on it. > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, saurabh chaturvedi > > <chaturvedisaurabh2 002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Members, > > > > > > > > I noticed three exceptions regarding the Libra ascendant in the book > > ‘Bhavarth Ratnakar’, as follows: > > > > > > > > 1) Mars--- Though the lord of 2nd and 7th , it does not become the > > death-inflicting planet. > > > > [Reference- Bhavarth Ratnakar, Libra Ascendant: Stanza-2] > > > > > > > > 2) Jupiter--- Jupiter is the lord of the 3rd as well as 6th, but it is > > capable of producing of Yoga. > > > > [Reference- Bhavarth Ratnakar, Libra Ascendant: Stanza-1] > > > > > > > > 3) Venus--- Venus becomes a killer, if it is in the ascendant. > > > > [Reference- Bhavarth Ratnakar, Libra Ascendant: Stanza-13] > > > > > > > > What does your experience suggest? > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > > saurabh > > > > ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* **** > > > > " Kuchh Sapanon Ke Mar Jaane Se, Jeevan Nahin Maraa Karataa Hai " > >    > > > > > > > > > > > > Explore your hobbies and interests. Go to http://in.promos. /groups/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > > http://messenger./invite/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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