No laughing matter [Existing order & (A Serious Matter... Immortality !!)]

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Lalit,

 

Geeta is held to be gospel truth; to wit, arsh vakya of the indubitable

kind. Doesn't mean there is no light further to it. The logos-ontology

(being) interface is very complex. There are many things you can't as

yet conceptualise. (The turnstile process I talked of has flown over you

head, I'm sure.) What you can't articulate in some way or other is

non-existent for the rest of the world, unless of course your action

(rather than disgustingly daring enunciation) takes over.

 

I will have to stop responding to your incoherent solipsism that

blabbers about your 'spiritual' implosion.

 

But what is not spiritual? By that logic, what is not immortal? Yet, you

would cast off your sheath one day, you fall prey to delusions now and

then like most others (like most others?) [the difference is others are

better self-aware as being part of the collective, being of common

denomination. That is modesty, that's Negative Capability. The last

mentioned term is an aesthetic term. Modesty is not an attitude to

assume. It's a mode of being, Being Sentient. You are a far cry.

 

When you can't articulate, what happens? To that extent you are

'nirveda'. S0 what-vid would you consider yourself to be? With your

disdain behind: " And yes, I m not an author " , you would do well not to

issue edicts from a mere . Just sit down cheek in hand, or

chin to your chest or look around and be filled with wonderment at this

complex Creation. The complex world doesn't boggle your mind enough.

Don't talk of sadhana. It will speak for itself if it needs to be. Its

effects, I mean.

 

Please don't require me to validate your siddhi or whatever you think

you have attained to or are into. Don't get me to say what nobody needs

to say about another, especially in such matters. I think you will

meanwhile do yourself immense good if you don't throw yourself on the

outer, rather than draw yourself in and feel rich, build yourself

better. You have every right to feel rich (or enriched by your

experiences) without waiting for the world to validate it. But if you go

about it this way, casting around your 'wealth', you will not even be

called Laughable Buddha. Won't then blame Narasimha alone.

 

Look, I ain't doing myself any honour here, saying this. But I have been

dragged in. I was wary of entering upon this group and engaging in your

kind of this and that? I remember I wrote back I would take time to

decide, after you repeatedly implored me to join.

 

Take care,

 

RK

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

<mishra.lalit wrote:

>

> RK Daa,

>

> We are immortals,u have also quickly reacted in a rash to my

expression on boring Geeta, do u really believe Geeta and understand the

message that Krishna has given.

>

> He says " Na Jayate Mriyate .... " , I dont remember the shloka, I dont

bother to remember, but i know it's meaning and realize it, Krishna has

said the same what i m saying - We are Immortals, As i know, including

you every body is Immortal, I find it very funny when those scholars

writes with their 2 cents - " We mortals " .

>

> Why ppl dont believe it whereas book shelves of shops are filled with

dozens of versions of Geeta, they write and they read, but where is

realization ? Actually, this is where knowledge doesnt work, you read

geeta one more time and you are yet to realize it, and what you have in

hand, an increased count !! you can tell that you have read it for 50

times or 100 times.......

>

> I m trying to put all in the path where you can feel it by experience,

can check it, can verify it and it's very easy, as simple as reading

this mail.

>

> Just feel, if we know it by experience, on what scale our productivity

will increase, how many folds our personality will develop, How much

happiness and success in our endeavors, happiness in our daily life we

w'd get ???

>

> See, geeta doesnt tell about the process to know how to feel it's

messages in practical day to day life and that's why readers find it

boring.

>

> There are other books, which goes few steps ahead in line of Geeta's

message, but, when i see, those scholars who dont see even a single

shloka of Geeta working in their life are dumping libraries with their

commentaries, I felt bad.

>

> Why to argument in the style of expressions, the manner of talks, see,

I speak and write from the core of the heart, Why i come true ?

>

> I dont mix things, I dont put a film on it, I dont seek any

popularity, do u point to this by saying " Subjective " . I cant adulterate

my expressions to make them artificialy popular or make them

reconizable, You know rains are always welcome and loved then any

artifical drizzling, yea, sometimes i outpour .... !!!

>

> As i told to you that We have forgoten the language of I, Even Krishna

has spoken in the language of I, I m speaking in the same language, and

after me, whosoever, will walk on the true path of sadhana, will speak

the language of I, I want everybody to rise to the level of speaking the

language of I.

>

> Pls walk on the path of spirituality, do the sadhaana, not for a

longer period, just start it today and continue doing it for a month,

anybody can come to know that I m right and correct as he will come to

know that he is also going in correct direction.

>

> I dont appreciate Buddha's path of escapism, his immature vision is

responsible for India's downfall, however, he was the most ambetious man

to spread his religion, what a contrast in speech and action.

>

> Why to spread a religion - ?

>

> And yes, I m not an author.

>

> regards,

> Lalit

>

>

>

>

>

>

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " arkaydash "

arkaydash@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > Lalit,

> >

> > I've observed you closely, spending some well-purposed time with

you.

> > Narasimha may be amused or bemused, but I'm concerned when I read

such

> > writings by you here. What you try to outline in these posts from

time

> > to time leaves me uneasy. From what I make out, you have been

> > living/acting on a plane different from most others, perhaps all

others.

> >

> > I concede that you are talking pure experience. My fear is that when

you

> > become so sure of the implications of your inner experiences, there

are

> > serious mismatches between understandable experiences and set

notions on

> > one hand and, on the other, your subjective accoounts of the jouney

of

> > your chetnaa, your unfolding. You self-discover and you act along

that

> > discovery -- the challenge here being where to put up the turnstile

> > between discovery and action, how to sequence the two and then how

to

> > integrate the two. Is enunciation action, or prelude to action? No

> > action beyond enunciation?

> >

> > Many have misunderstood you badly in the past. You have not cared to

> > temper your wordings -- which not a few readers here find

outlandish.

> > Therefore, I try to rein you in. You have to go easy with this, not

use

> > tone and manners that are 'raw immortal'. This is Mrutyu Lok --

Martya

> > in its Iron Age, according to widely accepted dogma (we mayn't

salute

> > that dogma, but not all dogmas are empty). Your immortal

> > reaching-forward requires a degree of correlation to existings order

and

> > its limitations.

> >

> > RK

> >

> >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

> > <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Group,

> > > I wish to share a serious matter of concern, I m very sad about,

In a

> > > mail to brother PV Narsimha in which i listed several discoveries

of

> > > astrology that i did just in play, and i mentioned that I will

take

> > this

> > > country to new age, he replied to me - He is amused at my

confidence,

> > > while discussing same with RK Daa, who belongs to top

> > > class intellectual community of india, he also outlined same to me

> > > ???

> > > I m truly wounded at these people's mindset, What happened to our

> > > civilization, what happened to our vision and strength ???????

> > > Has the entire age turned to crowd mentality, the

> > > dignified cowardice approach towards life , And when one says that

> > > he has courage and strength and shows his commitment to bring a

new

> > age

> > > for you, mind it for you only, you are amused at ????

> > > You are intellectuals, you talk about Geeta and Upnsihads, all big

> > > talks, are u talking for the talking sake only, Why, What lacks in

you

> > > that you feel, One's saying that he will do this, makes you feel

> > > it's matter of amusement ?

> > > What difference is there between you and me ? I m as qualified or

> > > learned as you all are, then, why i can speak like this and also

work

> > on

> > > my line of talks and you perhaps more experienced in life, thinks

this

> > > is not unreal ?

> > > What is this age in which showing incapability is appreciated?

What

> > > happened to you Indians ? What has made you so negative so

cowardice

> > > .....

> > > Yes, I dont look at outside to find my leader, I myself is my

leader,

> > I

> > > myself is source of my inspiration as i m a complete being, I

enjoy

> > > as sovereignty that the ruler of a country enjoys or in other

> > > terms, that the God itself enjoys, Until and unless God is

supreme, My

> > > liberty is granted, Until and Unless he is almighty, I m powerful

as i

> > > derive my strength from him and he is beyond questions.

> > > I wanted you to understand and feel it for you, i not a crooked

one,

> > > rather one who knows and lives what is discovered in our upnishads

and

> > o

> > > what ground our indian culture is based on.

> > > So, have u entered in a age when you w'd say Vivekananda's

addressing

> > > you to be " Amritasya's Putrah " - (Immortal Son) was a show of

> > Stupidity

> > > ?

> > > I m here to remind you the power you have and to make you feel

that

> > > power within, Yes, I have fought uncountable fights and won all of

> > them,

> > > and I also want you to win all the obstacles you have in ur life

and

> > > mind it, It possible and true !!

> > >

> > > you can overcome all ur karmas and their effect provided you know

what

> > > you are, let me do that this for you as i have done it or doing it

for

> > > me, be free like me !!

> > > regards,Lalit

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