Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Shri Lalith Mishra ji Kindly elicit us the astro readings based on which these predictions were made. Rgds MK Viswanath litsol <mishra.lalitVedic Astrologyandhealing Sent: Tuesday, 7 July, 2009 10:12:23 PM[Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Spiritual Astrology and Invisibles !! Group,1. Increase of spirit of freedom amöng chinese ppl and if curbed leading to disintegration like USSR, Nature is all set for justice to residents of tibet, berma etc. 2. Eradication of organized terrorism world over, that laden is no more.If u search group, u wd find dozens of times we declared it, and mind it, only we could in the world over. Regards,Lalit. See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Dear Mr. Vishwanath, Thanx for the interest, as i keep saying that vedic astrology suffers from 3 basic things 1. Lack of group study 2. Using wrong parameters 3. Over dependency and high expectations frm well known pesonalities and projections, it suppresses research orientation, sometimes i laugh at funny manners of sr astrologers, you know how ppl of initial days of learning isolated me, it was just becoz they were not open to discover more, not ready for researches, i hve noticed this is önly astrologer's community who dont look beyond few shlokas or few faces, well, let's come to the point. Why i focussed on china is becoz of instructions of late acharya shriram sharma ji, in yr 2003, in his astro body he guided me to use energy of gaytri mantra for the sake of tibetan ppl, i did tht, i also thot to find sm 100 or at least one dozen ppl bt this is the failure of this country tht it has not given a single person ready to spend sm 5 to 10 mnts for this cause, ok, leave it. As far as theorising the predictions, tht's pretty easy, sat - jup scripts china's fate, both the planets create a cycle which shapes chinese ppl's mind, their conciousness and their respönse to social values, whenever saturn get's jup's touch, china undergoes a transformation, history itself is evident 1. Saturn's transit over Saggitarius or Pisces 2. Jup's transit over saturn's signs - capricorn (makara) or acquarius(kumbha) commences transformation process over there, 3. The process gets turbulent when rahu gets affliction by mars, mars's aspect on rahu triggers violence in china, particularly when mars is on virgo, this is subject to above two conditions. Rahu acts like a karaka for china, and when mars is on merc's signs, students agitates. I liked tht you r open for researches in vedic astrology, see, i m not an author and my english also not a fitting tool for good write ups, and becoz of my software job, i hve no time for doing politics or doing show of modesty in astro groups, therfore, sometimes i get worried for future of vedic astrology in india, we hve to advance frm the point where prof k.n rao stopped. Why dont you compile our work and publish in your magezine, this way our message wd reach out to more ppl and astro talent could be open for researches. Unlike post martem studies, we hve done study nd made predictions before events took place. Regrds, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Viswas <astrologervishy_nair wrote: > > Shri Lalith Mishra ji > > Kindly elicit us the astro readings based on which these predictions were made. > > Rgds > MK Viswanath > > > > ________________________________ > litsol <mishra.lalit > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > Tuesday, 7 July, 2009 10:12:23 PM > [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Spiritual Astrology and Invisibles !! > > > > > > Group, > > 1. Increase of spirit of freedom amöng chinese ppl and if curbed leading to disintegration like USSR, Nature is all set for justice to residents of tibet, berma etc. > 2. Eradication of organized terrorism world over, that laden is no more. > > If u search group, u wd find dozens of times we declared it, and mind it, only we could in the world over. > > Regards, > Lalit. > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 pls include these secondary points to this astr6 study of china - 1. Strong Jup 2. Weak Sat 3. Mars on enemic/weak sign. 4. Rahu's affliction by jup/mars etc, mar's aspect on rahu is fatal for chines affairs. Regards, Lalit --- In Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <mishra.lalit wrote: > > Dear Mr. Vishwanath, > > Thanx for the interest, as i keep saying that vedic astrology suffers from 3 basic things 1. Lack of group study 2. Using wrong parameters 3. Over dependency and high expectations frm well known pesonalities and projections, it suppresses research orientation, sometimes i laugh at funny manners of sr astrologers, you know how ppl of initial days of learning isolated me, it was just becoz they were not open to discover more, not ready for researches, i hve noticed this is önly astrologer's community who dont look beyond few shlokas or few faces, well, let's come to the point. > > Why i focussed on china is becoz of instructions of late acharya shriram sharma ji, in yr 2003, in his astro body he guided me to use energy of gaytri mantra for the sake of tibetan ppl, i did tht, i also thot to find sm 100 or at least one dozen ppl bt this is the failure of this country tht it has not given a single person ready to spend sm 5 to 10 mnts for this cause, ok, leave it. > > As far as theorising the predictions, tht's pretty easy, sat - jup scripts china's fate, both the planets create a cycle which shapes chinese ppl's mind, their conciousness and their respönse to social values, whenever saturn get's jup's touch, china undergoes a transformation, history itself is evident 1. Saturn's transit over Saggitarius or Pisces 2. Jup's transit over saturn's signs - capricorn (makara) or acquarius(kumbha) commences transformation process over there, 3. The process gets turbulent when rahu gets affliction by mars, mars's aspect on rahu triggers violence in china, particularly when mars is on virgo, this is subject to above two conditions. > > Rahu acts like a karaka for china, and when mars is on merc's signs, students agitates. > > I liked tht you r open for researches in vedic astrology, see, i m not an author and my english also not a fitting tool for good write ups, and becoz of my software job, i hve no time for doing politics or doing show of modesty in astro groups, therfore, sometimes i get worried for future of vedic astrology in india, we hve to advance frm the point where prof k.n rao stopped. Why dont you compile our work and publish in your magezine, this way our message wd reach out to more ppl and astro talent could be open for researches. Unlike post martem studies, we hve done study nd made predictions before events took place. > > Regrds, > Lalit. > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Viswas <astrologervishy_nair@> wrote: > > > > Shri Lalith Mishra ji > > > > Kindly elicit us the astro readings based on which these predictions were made. > > > > Rgds > > MK Viswanath > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > litsol <mishra.lalit@> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > Tuesday, 7 July, 2009 10:12:23 PM > > [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Spiritual Astrology and Invisibles !! > > > > > > > > > > > > Group, > > > > 1. Increase of spirit of freedom amöng chinese ppl and if curbed leading to disintegration like USSR, Nature is all set for justice to residents of tibet, berma etc. > > 2. Eradication of organized terrorism world over, that laden is no more. > > > > If u search group, u wd find dozens of times we declared it, and mind it, only we could in the world over. > > > > Regards, > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 Dear Mr. Mishra ji Your points are well taken. You may not be getting support from others. This may not be due to their problem, but need to check your own chart. I am sure you would have considered China's chart before arriving at these conclusions. I wish you all the best in your endeavours towards Astro research. Rgds MK Viswanath litsol <mishra.lalitVedic Astrologyandhealing Sent: Thursday, 9 July, 2009 12:07:15 AM[Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: Spiritual Astrology and Invisibles !! Dear Mr. Vishwanath,Thanx for the interest, as i keep saying that vedic astrology suffers from 3 basic things 1. Lack of group study 2. Using wrong parameters 3. Over dependency and high expectations frm well known pesonalities and projections, it suppresses research orientation, sometimes i laugh at funny manners of sr astrologers, you know how ppl of initial days of learning isolated me, it was just becoz they were not open to discover more, not ready for researches, i hve noticed this is önly astrologer's community who dont look beyond few shlokas or few faces, well, let's come to the point. Why i focussed on china is becoz of instructions of late acharya shriram sharma ji, in yr 2003, in his astro body he guided me to use energy of gaytri mantra for the sake of tibetan ppl, i did tht, i also thot to find sm 100 or at least one dozen ppl bt this is the failure of this country tht it has not given a single person ready to spend sm 5 to 10 mnts for this cause, ok, leave it.As far as theorising the predictions, tht's pretty easy, sat - jup scripts china's fate, both the planets create a cycle which shapes chinese ppl's mind, their conciousness and their respönse to social values, whenever saturn get's jup's touch, china undergoes a transformation, history itself is evident 1. Saturn's transit over Saggitarius or Pisces 2. Jup's transit over saturn's signs - capricorn (makara) or acquarius(kumbha) commences transformation process over there, 3. The process gets turbulent when rahu gets affliction by mars, mars's aspect on rahu triggers violence in china, particularly when mars is on virgo, this is subject to above two conditions. Rahu acts like a karaka for china, and when mars is on merc's signs, students agitates. I liked tht you r open for researches in vedic astrology, see, i m not an author and my english also not a fitting tool for good write ups, and becoz of my software job, i hve no time for doing politics or doing show of modesty in astro groups, therfore, sometimes i get worried for future of vedic astrology in india, we hve to advance frm the point where prof k.n rao stopped. Why dont you compile our work and publish in your magezine, this way our message wd reach out to more ppl and astro talent could be open for researches. Unlike post martem studies, we hve done study nd made predictions before events took place.Regrds,Lalit.Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Viswas <astrologervishy_ nair wrote:>> Shri Lalith Mishra ji> > Kindly elicit us the astro readings based on which these predictions were made.> > Rgds> MK Viswanath> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> litsol <mishra.lalit@ ...>> Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com> Tuesday, 7 July, 2009 10:12:23 PM> [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Spiritual Astrology and Invisibles !!> > > > > > Group,> > 1. Increase of spirit of freedom amöng chinese ppl and if curbed leading to disintegration like USSR, Nature is all set for justice to residents of tibet, berma etc. > 2. Eradication of organized terrorism world over, that laden is no more.> > If u search group, u wd find dozens of times we declared it, and mind it, only we could in the world over. > > Regards,> Lalit. > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 countries charts r most of the times misleading, countries are geo reagions not individuals, such charts do not hve validity, our sages have already seen this, that's why they started discoverind relationship of geo regions wth planets and nakshhatras, my approach is an extension to that. I studied events of chinese history in 19th century yesterday to reply to ur query and it was amazing revealation which i posted for you. I m given an excellent birth chart by god which enables me to discover and establish new things. It's their problem and lack of confidence on their own astrological studies and knowledge tht they are still geard to put efforts against research or disliking researches, well, i dont luk at how ignorent and poorly skilld astrology community, particularly how net's astrology responds, their doubts and apprehensions cant change destiny written by nature, if vedic astrologers want to improve they hve to follow these discoveries and shuld also go ön discovering more, they hve no choice. Astrologer's must reveal their horoscope so that ppl and clients can get authenticity of astrologer's ability and study of the subject. Pls. Note my birth details - 17th Aug 1972 at rewa, mp, at 20.15 . I wd post reading of my chart done by shridhar govindan sir. Hope it helps. Regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Viswas <astrologervishy_nair wrote: > > Dear Mr. Mishra ji > > Your points are well taken. You may not be getting support from others. This may not be due to their problem, but need to check your own chart. > > I am sure you would have considered China's chart before arriving at these conclusions. > > I wish you all the best in your endeavours towards Astro research. > > Rgds > MK Viswanath > > > > > ________________________________ > litsol <mishra.lalit > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > Thursday, 9 July, 2009 12:07:15 AM > [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: Spiritual Astrology and Invisibles !! > > > > > > Dear Mr. Vishwanath, > > Thanx for the interest, as i keep saying that vedic astrology suffers from 3 basic things 1. Lack of group study 2. Using wrong parameters 3. Over dependency and high expectations frm well known pesonalities and projections, it suppresses research orientation, sometimes i laugh at funny manners of sr astrologers, you know how ppl of initial days of learning isolated me, it was just becoz they were not open to discover more, not ready for researches, i hve noticed this is önly astrologer's community who dont look beyond few shlokas or few faces, well, let's come to the point. > > Why i focussed on china is becoz of instructions of late acharya shriram sharma ji, in yr 2003, in his astro body he guided me to use energy of gaytri mantra for the sake of tibetan ppl, i did tht, i also thot to find sm 100 or at least one dozen ppl bt this is the failure of this country tht it has not given a single person ready to spend sm 5 to 10 mnts for this cause, ok, leave it. > > As far as theorising the predictions, tht's pretty easy, sat - jup scripts china's fate, both the planets create a cycle which shapes chinese ppl's mind, their conciousness and their respönse to social values, whenever saturn get's jup's touch, china undergoes a transformation, history itself is evident 1. Saturn's transit over Saggitarius or Pisces 2. Jup's transit over saturn's signs - capricorn (makara) or acquarius(kumbha) commences transformation process over there, 3. The process gets turbulent when rahu gets affliction by mars, mars's aspect on rahu triggers violence in china, particularly when mars is on virgo, this is subject to above two conditions. > > Rahu acts like a karaka for china, and when mars is on merc's signs, students agitates. > > I liked tht you r open for researches in vedic astrology, see, i m not an author and my english also not a fitting tool for good write ups, and becoz of my software job, i hve no time for doing politics or doing show of modesty in astro groups, therfore, sometimes i get worried for future of vedic astrology in india, we hve to advance frm the point where prof k.n rao stopped. Why dont you compile our work and publish in your magezine, this way our message wd reach out to more ppl and astro talent could be open for researches. Unlike post martem studies, we hve done study nd made predictions before events took place. > > Regrds, > Lalit. > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Viswas <astrologervishy_ nair@> wrote: > > > > Shri Lalith Mishra ji > > > > Kindly elicit us the astro readings based on which these predictions were made. > > > > Rgds > > MK Viswanath > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > litsol <mishra.lalit@ ...> > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com > > Tuesday, 7 July, 2009 10:12:23 PM > > [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Spiritual Astrology and Invisibles !! > > > > > > > > > > > > Group, > > > > 1. Increase of spirit of freedom amöng chinese ppl and if curbed leading to disintegration like USSR, Nature is all set for justice to residents of tibet, berma etc. > > 2. Eradication of organized terrorism world over, that laden is no more. > > > > If u search group, u wd find dozens of times we declared it, and mind it, only we could in the world over. > > > > Regards, > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 dear mr viswanath, Just to add one more thing, countries dont born again and again, regime of rulers may do, so, making countries chart is illogical, morever, a country is spread over a geo region, it cant be said tht a country is born at a particular city or town of that country, how you can fix lagna for a country, it's refused at first sight. Regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <mishra.lalit wrote: > > countries charts r most of the times misleading, countries are geo reagions not individuals, such charts do not hve validity, our sages have already seen this, that's why they started discoverind relationship of geo regions wth planets and nakshhatras, my approach is an extension to that. I studied events of chinese history in 19th century yesterday to reply to ur query and it was amazing revealation which i posted for you. > > I m given an excellent birth chart by god which enables me to discover and establish new things. It's their problem and lack of confidence on their own astrological studies and knowledge tht they are still geard to put efforts against research or disliking researches, well, i dont luk at how ignorent and poorly skilld astrology community, particularly how net's astrology responds, their doubts and apprehensions cant change destiny written by nature, if vedic astrologers want to improve they hve to follow these discoveries and shuld also go ön discovering more, they hve no choice. > > Astrologer's must reveal their horoscope so that ppl and clients can get authenticity of astrologer's ability and study of the subject. > > Pls. Note my birth details - 17th Aug 1972 at rewa, mp, at 20.15 . > > I wd post reading of my chart done by shridhar govindan sir. > > Hope it helps. > Regards, > Lalit. > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Viswas <astrologervishy_nair@> wrote: > > > > Dear Mr. Mishra ji > > > > Your points are well taken. You may not be getting support from others. This may not be due to their problem, but need to check your own chart. > > > > I am sure you would have considered China's chart before arriving at these conclusions. > > > > I wish you all the best in your endeavours towards Astro research. > > > > Rgds > > MK Viswanath > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > litsol <mishra.lalit@> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009 12:07:15 AM > > [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: Spiritual Astrology and Invisibles !! > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Vishwanath, > > > > Thanx for the interest, as i keep saying that vedic astrology suffers from 3 basic things 1. Lack of group study 2. Using wrong parameters 3. Over dependency and high expectations frm well known pesonalities and projections, it suppresses research orientation, sometimes i laugh at funny manners of sr astrologers, you know how ppl of initial days of learning isolated me, it was just becoz they were not open to discover more, not ready for researches, i hve noticed this is önly astrologer's community who dont look beyond few shlokas or few faces, well, let's come to the point. > > > > Why i focussed on china is becoz of instructions of late acharya shriram sharma ji, in yr 2003, in his astro body he guided me to use energy of gaytri mantra for the sake of tibetan ppl, i did tht, i also thot to find sm 100 or at least one dozen ppl bt this is the failure of this country tht it has not given a single person ready to spend sm 5 to 10 mnts for this cause, ok, leave it. > > > > As far as theorising the predictions, tht's pretty easy, sat - jup scripts china's fate, both the planets create a cycle which shapes chinese ppl's mind, their conciousness and their respönse to social values, whenever saturn get's jup's touch, china undergoes a transformation, history itself is evident 1. Saturn's transit over Saggitarius or Pisces 2. Jup's transit over saturn's signs - capricorn (makara) or acquarius(kumbha) commences transformation process over there, 3. The process gets turbulent when rahu gets affliction by mars, mars's aspect on rahu triggers violence in china, particularly when mars is on virgo, this is subject to above two conditions. > > > > Rahu acts like a karaka for china, and when mars is on merc's signs, students agitates. > > > > I liked tht you r open for researches in vedic astrology, see, i m not an author and my english also not a fitting tool for good write ups, and becoz of my software job, i hve no time for doing politics or doing show of modesty in astro groups, therfore, sometimes i get worried for future of vedic astrology in india, we hve to advance frm the point where prof k.n rao stopped. Why dont you compile our work and publish in your magezine, this way our message wd reach out to more ppl and astro talent could be open for researches. Unlike post martem studies, we hve done study nd made predictions before events took place. > > > > Regrds, > > Lalit. > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Viswas <astrologervishy_ nair@> wrote: > > > > > > Shri Lalith Mishra ji > > > > > > Kindly elicit us the astro readings based on which these predictions were made. > > > > > > Rgds > > > MK Viswanath > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > litsol <mishra.lalit@ ...> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com > > > Tuesday, 7 July, 2009 10:12:23 PM > > > [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Spiritual Astrology and Invisibles !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group, > > > > > > 1. Increase of spirit of freedom amöng chinese ppl and if curbed leading to disintegration like USSR, Nature is all set for justice to residents of tibet, berma etc. > > > 2. Eradication of organized terrorism world over, that laden is no more. > > > > > > If u search group, u wd find dozens of times we declared it, and mind it, only we could in the world over. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Sir, In mundane astrology,regions,countries and with clear demarcation by way of change in colours ,ethnic groups with different languages should have some base to study.if geocentric issues are to be understood,the timing as well as location of these places,their identification as a state,as a country with it's own independence and set of rules We may have to find out how astrological it is feasible to study these regions.in our classics identification was made as per surya siddhanta principles. vrkrishnan--- On Thu, 7/9/09, litsol <mishra.lalit wrote: litsol <mishra.lalit[Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: Spiritual Astrology and Invisibles !!Vedic Astrologyandhealing Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 9:59 AM dear mr viswanath, Just to add one more thing, countries dont born again and again, regime of rulers may do, so, making countries chart is illogical, morever, a country is spread over a geo region, it cant be said tht a country is born at a particular city or town of that country, how you can fix lagna for a country, it's refused at first sight.Regards,Lalit.Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" <mishra.lalit@ ...> wrote:>> countries charts r most of the times misleading, countries are geo reagions not individuals, such charts do not hve validity, our sages have already seen this, that's why they started discoverind relationship of geo regions wth planets and nakshhatras, my approach is an extension to that. I studied events of chinese history in 19th century yesterday to reply to ur query and it was amazing revealation which i posted for you. > > I m given an excellent birth chart by god which enables me to discover and establish new things. It's their problem and lack of confidence on their own astrological studies and knowledge tht they are still geard to put efforts against research or disliking researches, well, i dont luk at how ignorent and poorly skilld astrology community, particularly how net's astrology responds, their doubts and apprehensions cant change destiny written by nature, if vedic astrologers want to improve they hve to follow these discoveries and shuld also go ön discovering more, they hve no choice.> > Astrologer's must reveal their horoscope so that ppl and clients can get authenticity of astrologer's ability and study of the subject.> > Pls. Note my birth details - 17th Aug 1972 at rewa, mp, at 20.15 . > > I wd post reading of my chart done by shridhar govindan sir.> > Hope it helps. > Regards,> Lalit. > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Viswas <astrologervishy_ nair@> wrote:> >> > Dear Mr. Mishra ji> > > > Your points are well taken. You may not be getting support from others. This may not be due to their problem, but need to check your own chart.> > > > I am sure you would have considered China's chart before arriving at these conclusions.> > > > I wish you all the best in your endeavours towards Astro research.> > > > Rgds> > MK Viswanath> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > litsol <mishra.lalit@ >> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com> > Thursday, 9 July, 2009 12:07:15 AM> > [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Re: Spiritual Astrology and Invisibles !!> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Vishwanath,> > > > Thanx for the interest, as i keep saying that vedic astrology suffers from 3 basic things 1. Lack of group study 2. Using wrong parameters 3. Over dependency and high expectations frm well known pesonalities and projections, it suppresses research orientation, sometimes i laugh at funny manners of sr astrologers, you know how ppl of initial days of learning isolated me, it was just becoz they were not open to discover more, not ready for researches, i hve noticed this is önly astrologer's community who dont look beyond few shlokas or few faces, well, let's come to the point. > > > > Why i focussed on china is becoz of instructions of late acharya shriram sharma ji, in yr 2003, in his astro body he guided me to use energy of gaytri mantra for the sake of tibetan ppl, i did tht, i also thot to find sm 100 or at least one dozen ppl bt this is the failure of this country tht it has not given a single person ready to spend sm 5 to 10 mnts for this cause, ok, leave it.> > > > As far as theorising the predictions, tht's pretty easy, sat - jup scripts china's fate, both the planets create a cycle which shapes chinese ppl's mind, their conciousness and their respönse to social values, whenever saturn get's jup's touch, china undergoes a transformation, history itself is evident 1. Saturn's transit over Saggitarius or Pisces 2. Jup's transit over saturn's signs - capricorn (makara) or acquarius(kumbha) commences transformation process over there, 3. The process gets turbulent when rahu gets affliction by mars, mars's aspect on rahu triggers violence in china, particularly when mars is on virgo, this is subject to above two conditions. > > > > Rahu acts like a karaka for china, and when mars is on merc's signs, students agitates. > > > > I liked tht you r open for researches in vedic astrology, see, i m not an author and my english also not a fitting tool for good write ups, and becoz of my software job, i hve no time for doing politics or doing show of modesty in astro groups, therfore, sometimes i get worried for future of vedic astrology in india, we hve to advance frm the point where prof k.n rao stopped. Why dont you compile our work and publish in your magezine, this way our message wd reach out to more ppl and astro talent could be open for researches. Unlike post martem studies, we hve done study nd made predictions before events took place.> > > > Regrds,> > Lalit.> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Viswas <astrologervishy_ nair@> wrote:> > >> > > Shri Lalith Mishra ji> > > > > > Kindly elicit us the astro readings based on which these predictions were made.> > > > > > Rgds> > > MK Viswanath> > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > litsol <mishra.lalit@ ...>> > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com> > > Tuesday, 7 July, 2009 10:12:23 PM> > > [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Spiritual Astrology and Invisibles !!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group,> > > > > > 1. Increase of spirit of freedom amöng chinese ppl and if curbed leading to disintegration like USSR, Nature is all set for justice to residents of tibet, berma etc. > > > 2. Eradication of organized terrorism world over, that laden is no more.> > > > > > If u search group, u wd find dozens of times we declared it, and mind it, only we could in the world over. > > > > > > Regards,> > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 dear krishnan sir, Wht i know is Surya Siddhanta was a great work of indian astronomy, mathematics of planetary motion, amazing bt as it's proven that it had precision error in it's calculations, i lost my interest to study it, better, we shud go by today's physics, hve no idea if surya siddhant has predictive contents too, i also dont understand why in jyotish group those guys r wasting so much time on a wrong theory, let's respect the work done by ancient astro-mathmaticians for surya siddhanta and move on. Regards, Lalit. Vedic Astrologyandhealing , vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Sir, > In mundane astrology,regions,countries and with clear demarcation by way of change in colours ,ethnic groups with different languages should have some base to study.if geocentric issues are to be understood,the timing as well as location of these places,their identification as a state,as a country with it's own independence and set of rules We may have to find out how astrological it is feasible to study these regions.in our classics identification was made as per surya siddhanta principles. > vrkrishnan > > --- On Thu, 7/9/09, litsol <mishra.lalit wrote: > > > litsol <mishra.lalit > [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: Spiritual Astrology and Invisibles !! > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > Thursday, July 9, 2009, 9:59 AM > > dear mr viswanath, > > Just to add one more thing, countries dont born again and again, regime of rulers may do, so, making countries chart is illogical, morever, a country is spread over a geo region, it cant be said tht a country is born at a particular city or town of that country, how you can fix lagna for a country, it's refused at first sight. > Regards, > Lalit. > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " litsol " <mishra.lalit@ ....> wrote: > > > > countries charts r most of the times misleading, countries are geo reagions not individuals, such charts do not hve validity, our sages have already seen this, that's why they started discoverind relationship of geo regions wth planets and nakshhatras, my approach is an extension to that. I studied events of chinese history in 19th century yesterday to reply to ur query and it was amazing revealation which i posted for you. > > > > I m given an excellent birth chart by god which enables me to discover and establish new things. It's their problem and lack of confidence on their own astrological studies and knowledge tht they are still geard to put efforts against research or disliking researches, well, i dont luk at how ignorent and poorly skilld astrology community, particularly how net's astrology responds, their doubts and apprehensions cant change destiny written by nature, if vedic astrologers want to improve they hve to follow these discoveries and shuld also go ön discovering more, they hve no choice. > > > > Astrologer's must reveal their horoscope so that ppl and clients can get authenticity of astrologer's ability and study of the subject. > > > > Pls. Note my birth details - 17th Aug 1972 at rewa, mp, at 20.15 . > > > > I wd post reading of my chart done by shridhar govindan sir. > > > > Hope it helps. > > Regards, > > Lalit. > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Viswas <astrologervishy_ nair@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mr. Mishra ji > > > > > > Your points are well taken. You may not be getting support from others. This may not be due to their problem, but need to check your own chart. > > > > > > I am sure you would have considered China's chart before arriving at these conclusions. > > > > > > I wish you all the best in your endeavours towards Astro research. > > > > > > Rgds > > > MK Viswanath > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > litsol <mishra.lalit@ > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009 12:07:15 AM > > > [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Re: Spiritual Astrology and Invisibles !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Vishwanath, > > > > > > Thanx for the interest, as i keep saying that vedic astrology suffers from 3 basic things 1. Lack of group study 2. Using wrong parameters 3. Over dependency and high expectations frm well known pesonalities and projections, it suppresses research orientation, sometimes i laugh at funny manners of sr astrologers, you know how ppl of initial days of learning isolated me, it was just becoz they were not open to discover more, not ready for researches, i hve noticed this is önly astrologer's community who dont look beyond few shlokas or few faces, well, let's come to the point. > > > > > > Why i focussed on china is becoz of instructions of late acharya shriram sharma ji, in yr 2003, in his astro body he guided me to use energy of gaytri mantra for the sake of tibetan ppl, i did tht, i also thot to find sm 100 or at least one dozen ppl bt this is the failure of this country tht it has not given a single person ready to spend sm 5 to 10 mnts for this cause, ok, leave it. > > > > > > As far as theorising the predictions, tht's pretty easy, sat - jup scripts china's fate, both the planets create a cycle which shapes chinese ppl's mind, their conciousness and their respönse to social values, whenever saturn get's jup's touch, china undergoes a transformation, history itself is evident 1. Saturn's transit over Saggitarius or Pisces 2. Jup's transit over saturn's signs - capricorn (makara) or acquarius(kumbha) commences transformation process over there, 3. The process gets turbulent when rahu gets affliction by mars, mars's aspect on rahu triggers violence in china, particularly when mars is on virgo, this is subject to above two conditions. > > > > > > Rahu acts like a karaka for china, and when mars is on merc's signs, students agitates. > > > > > > I liked tht you r open for researches in vedic astrology, see, i m not an author and my english also not a fitting tool for good write ups, and becoz of my software job, i hve no time for doing politics or doing show of modesty in astro groups, therfore, sometimes i get worried for future of vedic astrology in india, we hve to advance frm the point where prof k.n rao stopped. Why dont you compile our work and publish in your magezine, this way our message wd reach out to more ppl and astro talent could be open for researches. Unlike post martem studies, we hve done study nd made predictions before events took place. > > > > > > Regrds, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Viswas <astrologervishy_ nair@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Shri Lalith Mishra ji > > > > > > > > Kindly elicit us the astro readings based on which these predictions were made. > > > > > > > > Rgds > > > > MK Viswanath > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > litsol <mishra.lalit@ ...> > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com > > > > Tuesday, 7 July, 2009 10:12:23 PM > > > > [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Spiritual Astrology and Invisibles !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group, > > > > > > > > 1. Increase of spirit of freedom amöng chinese ppl and if curbed leading to disintegration like USSR, Nature is all set for justice to residents of tibet, berma etc. > > > > 2. Eradication of organized terrorism world over, that laden is no more. > > > > > > > > If u search group, u wd find dozens of times we declared it, and mind it, only we could in the world over. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Dear Shri Lalit Ji, Physical aspect of planet has always an impact.In surya siddhanta however they do not consider this aspect leading to precison errors and do not have ayanamsha concept.i agree v need to respect great work and for our interest v need only to understand what is it that helps Astrology that makes impact in evey one's life vrkrishnan--- On Fri, 7/10/09, litsol <mishra.lalit wrote: litsol <mishra.lalit[Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: Spiritual Astrology and Invisibles !!Vedic Astrologyandhealing Date: Friday, July 10, 2009, 5:39 PM dear krishnan sir, Wht i know is Surya Siddhanta was a great work of indian astronomy, mathematics of planetary motion, amazing bt as it's proven that it had precision error in it's calculations, i lost my interest to study it, better, we shud go by today's physics, hve no idea if surya siddhant has predictive contents too, i also dont understand why in jyotish group those guys r wasting so much time on a wrong theory, let's respect the work done by ancient astro-mathmaticians for surya siddhanta and move on. Regards,Lalit.Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, vattem krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote:>> Sir,> In mundane astrology,regions, countries and with clear demarcation by way of change in colours ,ethnic groups with different languages should have some base to study.if geocentric issues are to be understood,the timing as well as location of these places,their identification as a state,as a country with it's own independence and set of rules We may have to find out how astrological it is feasible to study these regions.in our classics identification was made as per surya siddhanta principles.> vrkrishnan> > --- On Thu, 7/9/09, litsol <mishra.lalit@ ...> wrote:> > > litsol <mishra.lalit@ ...>> [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Re: Spiritual Astrology and Invisibles !!> Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com> Thursday, July 9, 2009, 9:59 AM> > > > > > > > > dear mr viswanath, > > Just to add one more thing, countries dont born again and again, regime of rulers may do, so, making countries chart is illogical, morever, a country is spread over a geo region, it cant be said tht a country is born at a particular city or town of that country, how you can fix lagna for a country, it's refused at first sight.> Regards,> Lalit.> Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" <mishra.lalit@ ...> wrote:> >> > countries charts r most of the times misleading, countries are geo reagions not individuals, such charts do not hve validity, our sages have already seen this, that's why they started discoverind relationship of geo regions wth planets and nakshhatras, my approach is an extension to that. I studied events of chinese history in 19th century yesterday to reply to ur query and it was amazing revealation which i posted for you. > > > > I m given an excellent birth chart by god which enables me to discover and establish new things. It's their problem and lack of confidence on their own astrological studies and knowledge tht they are still geard to put efforts against research or disliking researches, well, i dont luk at how ignorent and poorly skilld astrology community, particularly how net's astrology responds, their doubts and apprehensions cant change destiny written by nature, if vedic astrologers want to improve they hve to follow these discoveries and shuld also go ön discovering more, they hve no choice.> > > > Astrologer's must reveal their horoscope so that ppl and clients can get authenticity of astrologer's ability and study of the subject.> > > > Pls. Note my birth details - 17th Aug 1972 at rewa, mp, at 20.15 . > > > > I wd post reading of my chart done by shridhar govindan sir.> > > > Hope it helps. > > Regards,> > Lalit. > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Viswas <astrologervishy_ nair@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Mr. Mishra ji> > > > > > Your points are well taken. You may not be getting support from others. This may not be due to their problem, but need to check your own chart.> > > > > > I am sure you would have considered China's chart before arriving at these conclusions.> > > > > > I wish you all the best in your endeavours towards Astro research.> > > > > > Rgds> > > MK Viswanath> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > litsol <mishra.lalit@ >> > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com> > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009 12:07:15 AM> > > [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Re: Spiritual Astrology and Invisibles !!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Vishwanath,> > > > > > Thanx for the interest, as i keep saying that vedic astrology suffers from 3 basic things 1. Lack of group study 2. Using wrong parameters 3. Over dependency and high expectations frm well known pesonalities and projections, it suppresses research orientation, sometimes i laugh at funny manners of sr astrologers, you know how ppl of initial days of learning isolated me, it was just becoz they were not open to discover more, not ready for researches, i hve noticed this is önly astrologer's community who dont look beyond few shlokas or few faces, well, let's come to the point. > > > > > > Why i focussed on china is becoz of instructions of late acharya shriram sharma ji, in yr 2003, in his astro body he guided me to use energy of gaytri mantra for the sake of tibetan ppl, i did tht, i also thot to find sm 100 or at least one dozen ppl bt this is the failure of this country tht it has not given a single person ready to spend sm 5 to 10 mnts for this cause, ok, leave it.> > > > > > As far as theorising the predictions, tht's pretty easy, sat - jup scripts china's fate, both the planets create a cycle which shapes chinese ppl's mind, their conciousness and their respönse to social values, whenever saturn get's jup's touch, china undergoes a transformation, history itself is evident 1. Saturn's transit over Saggitarius or Pisces 2. Jup's transit over saturn's signs - capricorn (makara) or acquarius(kumbha) commences transformation process over there, 3. The process gets turbulent when rahu gets affliction by mars, mars's aspect on rahu triggers violence in china, particularly when mars is on virgo, this is subject to above two conditions. > > > > > > Rahu acts like a karaka for china, and when mars is on merc's signs, students agitates. > > > > > > I liked tht you r open for researches in vedic astrology, see, i m not an author and my english also not a fitting tool for good write ups, and becoz of my software job, i hve no time for doing politics or doing show of modesty in astro groups, therfore, sometimes i get worried for future of vedic astrology in india, we hve to advance frm the point where prof k.n rao stopped. Why dont you compile our work and publish in your magezine, this way our message wd reach out to more ppl and astro talent could be open for researches. Unlike post martem studies, we hve done study nd made predictions before events took place.> > > > > > Regrds,> > > Lalit.> > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Viswas <astrologervishy_ nair@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Shri Lalith Mishra ji> > > > > > > > Kindly elicit us the astro readings based on which these predictions were made.> > > > > > > > Rgds> > > > MK Viswanath> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > litsol <mishra.lalit@ ...>> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com> > > > Tuesday, 7 July, 2009 10:12:23 PM> > > > [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Spiritual Astrology and Invisibles !!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group,> > > > > > > > 1. Increase of spirit of freedom amöng chinese ppl and if curbed leading to disintegration like USSR, Nature is all set for justice to residents of tibet, berma etc. > > > > 2. Eradication of organized terrorism world over, that laden is no more.> > > > > > > > If u search group, u wd find dozens of times we declared it, and mind it, only we could in the world over. > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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