Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Mini astrology is mean to give moral support and to help/give directions to people in struggle/problems and in need. Honurable astrologers are not going to answer such questions here. Rare are the ladies who asks such questions. Shame on you.minixx20 <minnialharthy wrote: Respected Sir,Could you please analyze my chart and tell me if there is a possibility of divorce or pre mature death of my husband?dob;24-11-67time;1330 to 1336place;bhilaimany thanksmini 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Mr.Sms First of all you should never shame a person without knowing the full details.For that shame on you.Number two,how do you know the nature of my problem. Any spiritual person can see that I must be undergoing some major problem for me to have asked such a question.so do not jump into conclusions of your own. None opf the questions which are asked here since the past few days have indicated the seriousness of their situation as mine yet they are all answerd.Any experienced astrologer can detect the upheaval going thru my chart and should be able to reply. so once again since you dont know me no need to shame me because in real if you know yo will be ashamed of yourself. mini , sim s <swansimran wrote: > > Mini astrology is mean to give moral support and to help/give directions to people in struggle/problems and in need. Honurable astrologers are not going to answer such questions here. > > Rare are the ladies who asks such questions. Shame on you. > > minixx20 <minnialharthy wrote: > Respected Sir, > Could you please analyze my chart and tell me if there is a possibility > of divorce or pre mature death of my husband? > > dob;24-11-67 > time;1330 to 1336 > place;bhilai > > many thanks > mini > 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. Click here. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Dear Sms, Mini, It is unfortunate to see the altercation. I think both of you wrote your posts with different contexts in mind. So, kindly forgive each other. Mini, I am really sorry to hear the troubles that you may be going through. Can you please elaborate the situation if you can. Your lagna is on border and your chart can change quickly with a slight change in birth time. Can you please provide events in your life with dates so that we can rectify the birth time. If I assume given time is correct, you may be having a accident prone life in the past, please let me know if this is correct. Unfortunately, I don't think it would be ethical to answer the questions as you have put them. I would want to know your real intent and maybe we can help you in a different manner. Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of minixx20 Wednesday, November 14, 2007 9:03 PM Re: chart analysis Mr.Sms First of all you should never shame a person without knowing the full details.For that shame on you.Number two,how do you know the nature of my problem. Any spiritual person can see that I must be undergoing some major problem for me to have asked such a question.so do not jump into conclusions of your own. None opf the questions which are asked here since the past few days have indicated the seriousness of their situation as mine yet they are all answerd.Any experienced astrologer can detect the upheaval going thru my chart and should be able to reply. so once again since you dont know me no need to shame me because in real if you know yo will be ashamed of yourself. mini , sim s <swansimran wrote: > > Mini astrology is mean to give moral support and to help/give directions to people in struggle/problems and in need. Honurable astrologers are not going to answer such questions here. > > Rare are the ladies who asks such questions. Shame on you. > > minixx20 <minnialharthy wrote: > Respected Sir, > Could you please analyze my chart and tell me if there is a possibility > of divorce or pre mature death of my husband? > > dob;24-11-67 > time;1330 to 1336 > place;bhilai > > many thanks > mini > 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. Click here. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Dear Sms, Mini and Manu - I totally agree with Manu here as far as coming from two different view points. You both feel that you are right, but unfortunately as soon as one person tries to push his sense of rightness upon another, who disagrees, the other person feels that he has to push back in order to defend himself and this always causes unnecessary tension to build up. So let's take Manu's good advice on forgiveness, and be kind to each other and move on. The best way to approach this would be to take a step back for a moment and have Mini totally explain her reasons for asking these questions in the first place, so that misunderstandings can further be cleared up and everyone can better understand what her true intentions for asking truly were. Then Manu can perhaps be of assistance. Thanks - Donna > Dear Sms, Mini,> > It is unfortunate to see the altercation. I think both of you wrote your> posts with different contexts in mind. So, kindly forgive each other.> > Mini, I am really sorry to hear the troubles that you may be going through. > Can you please elaborate the situation if you can. Your lagna is on border> and your chart can change quickly with a slight change in birth time. Can> you please provide events in your life with dates so that we can rectify the> birth time. If I assume given time is correct, you may be having a accident> prone life in the past, please let me know if this is correct.> > Unfortunately, I don't think it would be ethical to answer the questions as> you have put them. I would want to know your real intent and maybe we can> help you in a different manner.> > Thanks & Regards,> Manu> > > > > > On Behalf Of minixx20> Wednesday, November 14, 2007 9:03 PM> > Re: chart analysis> > > Mr.Sms> First of all you should never shame a person without knowing the full > details.For that shame on you.Number two,how do you know the nature > of my problem.> Any spiritual person can see that I must be undergoing some major > problem for me to have asked such a question.so do not jump into > conclusions of your own.> > None opf the questions which are asked here since the past few days > have indicated the seriousness of their situation as mine yet they > are all answerd.Any experienced astrologer can detect the upheaval > going thru my chart and should be able to reply.> so once again since you dont know me no need to shame me because in > real if you know yo will be ashamed of yourself.> mini> > > > > , sim s > <swansimran wrote:>>>> Mini astrology is mean to give moral support and to help/give > directions to people in struggle/problems and in need. Honurable > astrologers are not going to answer such questions here.>> >> Rare are the ladies who asks such questions. Shame on you.>> >> minixx20 <minnialharthy wrote:>> Respected Sir,>> Could you please analyze my chart and tell me if there is a > possibility >> of divorce or pre mature death of my husband?>> >> dob;24-11-67>> time;1330 to 1336>> place;bhilai>> >> many thanks>> mini>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. Click > here.>>> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 I won't answer the second part of your question. As manu has mentioned your lagna is on boderline. Did your marriage happen between 1991 and 1993 ? You may be Meena lagna. Need more info to fix the ascendent. Satish --- minixx20 <minnialharthy wrote: > Respected Sir, > Could you please analyze my chart and tell me if > there is a possibility > of divorce or pre mature death of my husband? > > dob;24-11-67 > time;1330 to 1336 > place;bhilai > > many thanks > mini > > ______________________________\ ____ Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 Dear friends, I got one chart of a male native born on 22 Jun 1973 at the time of 12:03 in the place of Annapolish MD, TZ EDT +4 38 N 58 , 76 W 29. His past events for verification of birth time are- 1. Built his own house in 2002 2.Married on 23 Oct 2004 3.Son was born on 4 Nov 2005 4.Daughter was born on 15 May 2007 5.His parents are divorced and still alive 6.Both of his parents are remarried. 7.He has two older married sisters. I am getting asc as 7 Vi 24. An event took place in his life on 17 Oct 2007 around 15:30 hrs. He was hospitalised with nausea, shortness of breath and chest pain. My query is how do you analyse it. Whil verification of birth time I found that he should have married during first sector of Ju antara in Sa main. Ju is LoD for this chart and occupy 5th house of children. But he married in Ke antara in Me main. Ke is SD to Me, Ju and Ve. But it is more like Ve. When you consider Ju then Ke can give marrieage. Do we need birth rectification taking these events and the event which happened on 17 Oct 2007 ? If so what will be his rectified birth time ? Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra Save all your chat conversations. Find them online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 Dear Ramesh Mishra, What you are getting lagna is wrong check again,it is 25 leo 17 ,use this lagna, timeline with past events exactly matching ,even PDF also matching. use(AST +4.00)in KAS WS I hope this will help you Prasanna.G , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Dear friends, > I got one chart of a male native born on 22 Jun 1973 at the time of 12:03 in the place of Annapolish MD, TZ EDT +4 38 N 58 , 76 W 29. > His past events for verification of birth time are- > 1. Built his own house in 2002 > 2.Married on 23 Oct 2004 > 3.Son was born on 4 Nov 2005 > 4.Daughter was born on 15 May 2007 > 5.His parents are divorced and still alive > 6.Both of his parents are remarried. > 7.He has two older married sisters. > I am getting asc as 7 Vi 24. > An event took place in his life on 17 Oct 2007 around 15:30 hrs. > He was hospitalised with nausea, shortness of breath and chest pain. > My query is how do you analyse it. > Whil verification of birth time I found that he should have married during first sector of Ju antara in Sa main. > Ju is LoD for this chart and occupy 5th house of children. > But he married in Ke antara in Me main. > Ke is SD to Me, Ju and Ve. But it is more like Ve. > When you consider Ju then Ke can give marrieage. > Do we need birth rectification taking these events and the event which happened on 17 Oct 2007 ? > If so what will be his rectified birth time ? > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > > > Save all your chat conversations. Find them online. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 Dear Prasanna, Thanks for correction of time zone. I will cast the chart again taking AST time zone. But the author who gave this chart, he clearly mentioned EDT time zone so I took accordingly and got the virgo lagna. However many many thanks. Ramesh Mishra --- prasanna_1978 <prasanna_1978 wrote: > Dear Ramesh Mishra, > > What you are getting lagna is wrong check again,it > is 25 leo 17 ,use > this lagna, timeline with past events exactly > matching ,even PDF also > matching. > > use(AST +4.00)in KAS WS > > I hope this will help you > > > Prasanna.G > > > > , > ramesh mishra > <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > > > Dear friends, > > I got one chart of a male native born on 22 Jun > 1973 at the time > of 12:03 in the place of Annapolish MD, TZ EDT +4 38 > N 58 , 76 W 29. > > His past events for verification of birth time > are- > > 1. Built his own house in 2002 > > 2.Married on 23 Oct 2004 > > 3.Son was born on 4 Nov 2005 > > 4.Daughter was born on 15 May 2007 > > 5.His parents are divorced and still alive > > 6.Both of his parents are remarried. > > 7.He has two older married sisters. > > I am getting asc as 7 Vi 24. > > An event took place in his life on 17 Oct 2007 > around 15:30 hrs. > > He was hospitalised with nausea, shortness of > breath and chest > pain. > > My query is how do you analyse it. > > Whil verification of birth time I found that he > should have > married during first sector of Ju antara in Sa main. > > Ju is LoD for this chart and occupy 5th house of > children. > > But he married in Ke antara in Me main. > > Ke is SD to Me, Ju and Ve. But it is more like > Ve. > > When you consider Ju then Ke can give marrieage. > > Do we need birth rectification taking these > events and the event > which happened on 17 Oct 2007 ? > > If so what will be his rectified birth time ? > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > Save all your chat conversations. Find them > online. > > > > > Save all your chat conversations. Find them online at http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 Dear Ramesh, The details are correct, I am getting Virgo lagna, 6° 29' Regards Sudhir On 11/17/07, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: Dear Prasanna,Thanks for correction of time zone. I will cast thechart again taking AST time zone.But the author who gave this chart, he clearlymentioned EDT time zone so I took accordingly and got the virgo lagna.However many many thanks.Ramesh Mishra --- prasanna_1978 <prasanna_1978 wrote: > Dear Ramesh Mishra,> > What you are getting lagna is wrong check again,it> is 25 leo 17 ,use > this lagna, timeline with past events exactly> matching ,even PDF also > matching. > > use(AST +4.00)in KAS WS> > I hope this will help you > > > Prasanna.G> > > > ,> ramesh mishra > <aarceemastro2002 wrote:> >> > Dear friends,> > I got one chart of a male native born on 22 Jun> 1973 at the time > of 12:03 in the place of Annapolish MD, TZ EDT +4 38> N 58 , 76 W 29.> > His past events for verification of birth time> are-> > 1. Built his own house in 2002> > 2.Married on 23 Oct 2004> > 3.Son was born on 4 Nov 2005> > 4.Daughter was born on 15 May 2007> > 5.His parents are divorced and still alive> > 6.Both of his parents are remarried.> > 7.He has two older married sisters.> > I am getting asc as 7 Vi 24.> > An event took place in his life on 17 Oct 2007> around 15:30 hrs.> > He was hospitalised with nausea, shortness of > breath and chest > pain.> > My query is how do you analyse it.> > Whil verification of birth time I found that he> should have > married during first sector of Ju antara in Sa main. > > Ju is LoD for this chart and occupy 5th house of> children.> > But he married in Ke antara in Me main.> > Ke is SD to Me, Ju and Ve. But it is more like> Ve.> > When you consider Ju then Ke can give marrieage. > > Do we need birth rectification taking these> events and the event > which happened on 17 Oct 2007 ?> > If so what will be his rectified birth time ?> > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > Save all your chat conversations. Find them> online.> >> > > Save all your chat conversations. Find them online at http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 Dear Ramesh, Prasanna, and Sudhir, Popped in for a moment tonight and saw the confusion going on...Here's the chart you are referencing. Please note the correct data input for the KAS Worksheet. Eastern Daylight Time was in effect, making it Eastern Standard Time on the Worksheet, with 1 hour DST in effect. Hope this helps clear the confusion. Warm regards, Sandy NAME: PLACE: Annapolis MD BIRTHDATE: 22-Jun-1943 Time Zone: EST +05:00 TIME: 12:3 DST: Yes Latitude: 38 N 58 KAS AYANAMSA: 22:10:18 Longitude: 76 W 29 Rasi- NATAL CHART 4 Navamsa - SPOUSE D9 8 33 9 30 10 32 11 26 5 29 6 27 7 26 8 30 Ma Me Sa Su Ma Me 7 24 12 25 4 27 9 26 Mo Bitmap D Ju Ve Ra Ve Ra A B Natal Divisional 6 32 1 23 3 33 Chart 10 23 Ke E C Asc Ju Sa Ke 5 33 4 26 3 27 2 26 2 29 1 22 12 34 11 31 Su Mo Asc ASHTARKAVARGA POWER DIVISIONAL CHART DETAILS TRANSIT CHART (SOUTH) NATAL Bitmap SU MO MA ME JU VE SA BINDUS 5 3 4 7 3 4 4 TRANSIT DATE IS: 17-Nov-07 NATAL CHART DATA NATAL DASA SUMMARY Planet Degrees Nakshatra Lord Navamsa Mahadasa Start To As 25 Le 7 P.Phalguni Ve Sc Rahu 1939-Feb-05 1957-Feb-05 Su 8 Ge 11 Ardra Ra Sg Jupiter 1957-Feb-05 1973-Feb-05 Mo 9 Aq 54 Satabhisaj Ra Sg Saturn 1973-Feb-05 1992-Feb-05 Ma 27 Pi 2 Revati Me Pi Mercury 1992-Feb-05 2009-Feb-04 Me 15 Ta 57 Rohini Mo Ta Ketu 2009-Feb-04 2016-Feb-05 Ju 6 Cn 6 Pushya Sa Le Venus 2016-Feb-05 2036-Feb-05 Ve 23 Cn 29 Aslesha Me Aq Sun 2036-Feb-05 2042-Feb-04 Sa 25 Ta 46 Mrigashira Ma Le Moon 2042-Feb-04 2052-Feb-05 Ra 26 Cn 12 Aslesha Me Aq Mars 2052-Feb-05 2059-Feb-04 Ke 26 Cp 12 Dhanistha Ma Le , Sudhir <taurus.sudhir wrote:>> Dear Ramesh,> > The details are correct, I am getting Virgo lagna, 6° 29'> > Regards> Sudhir> > > On 11/17/07, ramesh mishra aarceemastro2002 wrote:> >> > Dear Prasanna,> > Thanks for correction of time zone. I will cast the> > chart again taking AST time zone.> > But the author who gave this chart, he clearly> > mentioned EDT time zone so I took accordingly and got> > the virgo lagna.> > However many many thanks.> > Ramesh Mishra> >> > --- prasanna_1978 prasanna_1978 <prasanna_1978%40>>> > wrote:> >> > > Dear Ramesh Mishra,> > >> > > What you are getting lagna is wrong check again,it> > > is 25 leo 17 ,use> > > this lagna, timeline with past events exactly> > > matching ,even PDF also> > > matching.> > >> > > use(AST +4.00)in KAS WS> > >> > > I hope this will help you> > >> > >> > > Prasanna.G> > >> > >> > >> > > <%40>> > ,> > > ramesh mishra> > > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear friends,> > > > I got one chart of a male native born on 22 Jun> > > 1973 at the time> > > of 12:03 in the place of Annapolish MD, TZ EDT +4 38> > > N 58 , 76 W 29.> > > > His past events for verification of birth time> > > are-> > > > 1. Built his own house in 2002> > > > 2.Married on 23 Oct 2004> > > > 3.Son was born on 4 Nov 2005> > > > 4.Daughter was born on 15 May 2007> > > > 5.His parents are divorced and still alive> > > > 6.Both of his parents are remarried.> > > > 7.He has two older married sisters.> > > > I am getting asc as 7 Vi 24.> > > > An event took place in his life on 17 Oct 2007> > > around 15:30 hrs.> > > > He was hospitalised with nausea, shortness of> > > breath and chest> > > pain.> > > > My query is how do you analyse it.> > > > Whil verification of birth time I found that he> > > should have> > > married during first sector of Ju antara in Sa main.> > > > Ju is LoD for this chart and occupy 5th house of> > > children.> > > > But he married in Ke antara in Me main.> > > > Ke is SD to Me, Ju and Ve. But it is more like> > > Ve.> > > > When you consider Ju then Ke can give marrieage.> > > > Do we need birth rectification taking these> > > events and the event> > > which happened on 17 Oct 2007 ?> > > > If so what will be his rectified birth time ?> > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Save all your chat conversations. Find them> > > online.> > > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > Save all your chat conversations. Find them online at> > http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php> >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 Typo Correction...(I just turned the light on)... Year was 1973 NOT 1943... SORRY! Correct chart is below... Warm Regards, Sandy NAME: PLACE: Annapolis MD BIRTHDATE: 22-Jun-1973 Time Zone: EST +05:00 TIME: 12:3 DST: Yes Latitude: 38 N 58 KAS AYANAMSA: 22:35:46 Longitude: 76 W 29 Rasi- NATAL CHART 4 Navamsa - SPOUSE D9 8 27 9 38 10 27 11 28 5 28 6 34 7 26 8 30 Ma Su Ve Sa Ke Mo JuR Ve 7 19 12 22 4 25 9 30 Mo Bitmap D Me Ke A B Natal Divisional 6 29 1 25 3 30 Chart 10 26 JuR E C Asc Me Ra 5 34 4 35 3 27 2 26 2 26 1 24 12 33 11 25 Ra Su Asc Sa Ma ASHTARKAVARGA POWER DIVISIONAL CHART DETAILS TRANSIT CHART (SOUTH) NATAL Bitmap SU MO MA ME JU VE SA BINDUS 6 3 3 4 4 3 4 TRANSIT DATE IS: 17-Nov-07 NATAL CHART DATA NATAL DASA SUMMARY Planet Degrees Nakshatra Lord Navamsa Mahadasa Start To As 25 Le 17 P.Phalguni Ve Sc Jupiter 1968-Jan-09 1984-Jan-09 Su 8 Ge 29 Ardra Ra Sg Saturn 1984-Jan-09 2003-Jan-08 Mo 24 Aq 32 P.Bhadrapada Ju Ta Mercury 2003-Jan-08 2020-Jan-09 Ma 8 Pi 35 U.Bhadrapada Sa Vi Ketu 2020-Jan-09 2027-Jan-08 Me 3 Cn 36 Pushya Sa Le Venus 2027-Jan-08 2047-Jan-08 JuR 18 Cp 43 Sravana Mo Ge Sun 2047-Jan-08 2053-Jan-08 Ve 28 Ge 1 Punarvasu Ju Ge Moon 2053-Jan-08 2063-Jan-08 Sa 2 Ge 28 Mrigashira Ma Li Mars 2063-Jan-08 2070-Jan-08 Ra 15 Sg 31 P.Asadha Ve Le Rahu 2070-Jan-08 2088-Jan-08 Ke 15 Ge 31 Ardra Ra Aq , "Sandy Crowther" <sandycrowther wrote:>> > Dear Ramesh, Prasanna, and Sudhir,> > Popped in for a moment tonight and saw the confusion going on...Here's> the chart you are referencing. Please note the correct data input for> the KAS Worksheet. Eastern Daylight Time was in effect, making it> Eastern Standard Time on the Worksheet, with 1 hour DST in effect.> > Hope this helps clear the confusion. []> > Warm regards,> > Sandy> > > NAME: PLACE: Annapolis MD BIRTHDATE: 22-Jun-1943 > Time Zone: EST +05:00 TIME: 12:3 DST: Yes Latitude: 38 N> 58 KAS AYANAMSA: 22:10:18 Longitude: 76 W 29> Rasi- NATAL CHART 4 Navamsa - SPOUSE D9 > 8 33 9 30 10 32 11 26 5 29 6 27 7 26 8 30 Ma Me> Sa Su Ma Me 7 24 12 25 4 27 > 9 26 Mo Bitmap D Ju Ve Ra Ve Ra A > B Natal Divisional 6 32 1 23 3 33 Chart > 10 23 Ke E C Asc Ju Sa Ke> 5 33 4 26 3 27 2 26 2 29 1 22 12 34 11 31 > Su Mo Asc> ASHTARKAVARGA POWER> </post?act=reply & m\> essageNum=17112 & referer=/message/17112 & us\> e_rte=1#Summary!A1> DIVISIONAL CHART DETAILS> </post?act=reply & m\> essageNum=17112 & referer=/message/17112 & us\> e_rte=1#Divisionals!A1> TRANSIT CHART> (SOUTH)> </post?act=reply & m\> essageNum=17112 & referer=/message/17112 & us\> e_rte=1#TransitChartSouth!A1> NATAL Bitmap SU MO MA ME JU> VE SA BINDUS 5 3 4 7 3 4 4 TRANSIT DATE> IS: 17-Nov-07 > NATAL CHART DATA> </post?act=reply & m\> essageNum=17112 & referer=/message/17112 & us\> e_rte=1#NATALDataEntry!A1> NATAL DASA SUMMARY> </post?act=reply & m\> essageNum=17112 & referer=/message/17112 & us\> e_rte=1#NatalDasas!A1>> Planet Degrees Nakshatra Lord Navamsa Mahadasa Start To As 25 Le> 7 P.Phalguni Ve Sc Rahu 1939-Feb-05 1957-Feb-05 Su 8 Ge 11 Ardra> Ra Sg Jupiter 1957-Feb-05 1973-Feb-05 Mo 9 Aq 54 Satabhisaj Ra Sg> Saturn 1973-Feb-05 1992-Feb-05 Ma 27 Pi 2 Revati Me Pi Mercury> 1992-Feb-05 2009-Feb-04 Me 15 Ta 57 Rohini Mo Ta Ketu 2009-Feb-04> 2016-Feb-05 Ju 6 Cn 6 Pushya Sa Le Venus 2016-Feb-05 2036-Feb-05> Ve 23 Cn 29 Aslesha Me Aq Sun 2036-Feb-05 2042-Feb-04 Sa 25 Ta 46> Mrigashira Ma Le Moon 2042-Feb-04 2052-Feb-05 Ra 26 Cn 12 Aslesha> Me Aq Mars 2052-Feb-05 2059-Feb-04 Ke 26 Cp 12 Dhanistha Ma Le> > , Sudhir> taurus.sudhir@ wrote:> >> > Dear Ramesh,> >> > The details are correct, I am getting Virgo lagna, 6° 29'> >> > Regards> > Sudhir> >> >> > On 11/17/07, ramesh mishra aarceemastro2002@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Prasanna,> > > Thanks for correction of time zone. I will cast the> > > chart again taking AST time zone.> > > But the author who gave this chart, he clearly> > > mentioned EDT time zone so I took accordingly and got> > > the virgo lagna.> > > However many many thanks.> > > Ramesh Mishra> > >> > > --- prasanna_1978 prasanna_1978@ <prasanna_1978%40>>> > > wrote:> > >> > > > Dear Ramesh Mishra,> > > >> > > > What you are getting lagna is wrong check again,it> > > > is 25 leo 17 ,use> > > > this lagna, timeline with past events exactly> > > > matching ,even PDF also> > > > matching.> > > >> > > > use(AST +4.00)in KAS WS> > > >> > > > I hope this will help you> > > >> > > >> > > > Prasanna.G> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > --- In> <%40yaho\> ogroups.com>> > > ,> > > > ramesh mishra> > > > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear friends,> > > > > I got one chart of a male native born on 22 Jun> > > > 1973 at the time> > > > of 12:03 in the place of Annapolish MD, TZ EDT +4 38> > > > N 58 , 76 W 29.> > > > > His past events for verification of birth time> > > > are-> > > > > 1. Built his own house in 2002> > > > > 2.Married on 23 Oct 2004> > > > > 3.Son was born on 4 Nov 2005> > > > > 4.Daughter was born on 15 May 2007> > > > > 5.His parents are divorced and still alive> > > > > 6.Both of his parents are remarried.> > > > > 7.He has two older married sisters.> > > > > I am getting asc as 7 Vi 24.> > > > > An event took place in his life on 17 Oct 2007> > > > around 15:30 hrs.> > > > > He was hospitalised with nausea, shortness of> > > > breath and chest> > > > pain.> > > > > My query is how do you analyse it.> > > > > Whil verification of birth time I found that he> > > > should have> > > > married during first sector of Ju antara in Sa main.> > > > > Ju is LoD for this chart and occupy 5th house of> > > > children.> > > > > But he married in Ke antara in Me main.> > > > > Ke is SD to Me, Ju and Ve. But it is more like> > > > Ve.> > > > > When you consider Ju then Ke can give marrieage.> > > > > Do we need birth rectification taking these> > > > events and the event> > > > which happened on 17 Oct 2007 ?> > > > > If so what will be his rectified birth time ?> > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Save all your chat conversations. Find them> > > > online.> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > Save all your chat conversations. Find them online at> > > http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php> > >> > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 Thanks Sandy, Its OK now Is MD, .....Maryland ? Regards Sudhir On 11/18/07, Sandy Crowther <sandycrowther wrote: Dear Ramesh, Prasanna, and Sudhir, Popped in for a moment tonight and saw the confusion going on...Here's the chart you are referencing. Please note the correct data input for the KAS Worksheet. Eastern Daylight Time was in effect, making it Eastern Standard Time on the Worksheet, with 1 hour DST in effect. Hope this helps clear the confusion. Warm regards, Sandy NAME: PLACE: Annapolis MD BIRTHDATE: 22-Jun-1943 Time Zone: EST +05:00 TIME: 12:3 DST: Yes Latitude: 38 N 58 KAS AYANAMSA: 22:10:18 Longitude: 76 W 29 Rasi- NATAL CHART 4 Navamsa - SPOUSE D9 8 33 9 30 10 32 11 26 5 29 6 27 7 26 8 30 Ma Me Sa Su Ma Me 7 24 12 25 4 27 9 26 Mo Bitmap D Ju Ve Ra Ve Ra A B Natal Divisional 6 32 1 23 3 33 Chart 10 23 Ke E C Asc Ju Sa Ke 5 33 4 26 3 27 2 26 2 29 1 22 12 34 11 31 Su Mo Asc ASHTARKAVARGA POWER DIVISIONAL CHART DETAILS TRANSIT CHART (SOUTH) NATAL Bitmap SU MO MA ME JU VE SA BINDUS 5 3 4 7 3 4 4 TRANSIT DATE IS: 17-Nov-07 NATAL CHART DATA NATAL DASA SUMMARY Planet Degrees Nakshatra Lord Navamsa Mahadasa Start To ....[Message clipped] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2007 Report Share Posted November 18, 2007 Dear Sudhir, Sandy, Prasanna and all, No , it is still something wrong somewhere. Whether you take AST +4 with no DST or EST +5 with Yes DST, the asc will be 25 Le 17. I am getting KAS ayanamsa as 22:35:46 and not as 22:10:18. This difference in ayanamsa may change the planets longitudes but it does not reflect here. Why ? For the verification of birth time I re-checked the date of marriage with antara lord. The native married in Me antara (third sector ) of Me main. Me is in house E with 4 bindus. Me is one of the significator for 7th house. Me may give the event for 7th house matter. Now come to the point of the birth of his Son. Son was born on 4 Nov 2005 when Ke antara was passing through. Ke is SD to Me ,LoD for 5th. Daughter was born on 15 May 2007 when second sector of Ve antara was running. Ve is LoE for 5th. There is no delay by Sa for the matter of 5th so the event took place in first sector. Let us examine his event of building his own house in 2002. The dasa and antara running was Sa- Ju. Ju is LoC for 4th, LoE for 12th and LoD for 11th. Ju is strong in all these houses in WS.. But the point in 12th should have been more than that of 11th instead it is less. Let me examine the event which took place on 17 Oct 2007 during second sector of Ve antara of Me main. Ve is strong in all houses in WS. Ve is LoD for 1st and 6th. As per KAS theory LoD and LoE always give good results. Death is considered as a good event but hospitalisation and sickness may not be considered a good event. For the matter of 1st (SELF) house the significators are Su and Ju. The FK is Ju who is in 6th house of disease and this 6th is LoE for 1st. LoE is Sa. Ve antara is NSD to Sa. Me is NK and Sa is FK for 4th house of chest. This karak occupy 12th house of hospital and aspected by the FK of self from the house of disease. The karak for 6th is strongly posited in karaksthann of 4th. Su is strongly afflicted by Ma, Sa and Ra so the chest pain. I want to ask that for the timing of Ve antara for the matter of 1st, 6th and 12th the points in WS should have been less than 12 points. Otherwise we may assume that good events will be given by Ve or for whom it is SD being LoD and LoE. Hope you understand my query. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra Sudhir <taurus.sudhir wrote: Thanks Sandy, Its OK now Is MD, .....Maryland ? Regards Sudhir On 11/18/07, Sandy Crowther <sandycrowther (AT) atlanticbb (DOT) net> wrote: Dear Ramesh, Prasanna, and Sudhir, Popped in for a moment tonight and saw the confusion going on...Here's the chart you are referencing. Please note the correct data input for the KAS Worksheet. Eastern Daylight Time was in effect, making it Eastern Standard Time on the Worksheet, with 1 hour DST in effect. Hope this helps clear the confusion. Warm regards, Sandy NAME: PLACE: Annapolis MD BIRTHDATE: 22-Jun-1943 Time Zone: EST +05:00 TIME: 12:3 DST: Yes Latitude: 38 N 58 KAS AYANAMSA: 22:10:18 Longitude: 76 W 29 Rasi- NATAL CHART 4 Navamsa - SPOUSE D9 8 33 9 30 10 32 11 26 5 29 6 27 7 26 8 30 Ma Me Sa Su Ma Me 7 24 12 25 4 27 9 26 Mo Bitmap D Ju Ve Ra Ve Ra A B Natal Divisional 6 32 1 23 3 33 Chart 10 23 Ke E C Asc Ju Sa Ke 5 33 4 26 3 27 2 26 2 29 1 22 12 34 11 31 Su Mo Asc ASHTARKAVARGA POWER DIVISIONAL CHART DETAILS TRANSIT CHART (SOUTH) NATAL Bitmap SU MO MA ME JU VE SA BINDUS 5 3 4 7 3 4 4 TRANSIT DATE IS: 17-Nov-07 NATAL CHART DATA NATAL DASA SUMMARY Planet Degrees Nakshatra Lord Navamsa Mahadasa Start To ...[Message clipped] Save all your chat conversations. Find them online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2007 Report Share Posted November 18, 2007 Dear Ramesh I try to explain in KAS way please forgive me if any wrong in my attempt I m not expert in KAS system.as mentioned by Sandy next day he discharged from hospital and due to stress he got disease, this only passing clouds disease may be one day or two days it will be cured. Small analogy- 6th house is satru stana as per theory, D and E lord give good thing, to whom? To the house right that? means satru - bad for native–so 6th house highest point will give disease if same planet highest point in 8th house it will give chronic disease For day to day activities (small activities) check PDF instead of AD. PDF Venus-Mars running at the time of incident Venus is highest score of 6th house and less score in 8thhouse so it is not chronic only some problem in the health-Refer Mr.ASH mail to Sameer (15860). Venus –Mars –highest point of 1st house,3rd house (3rd house chest – non cardiac problem not 4th house -heart)-Refer Paladeepika thats why I mentioned Gemini rules chest not heart . I understood you question kindly check Mr. Ash mail reply to Mr. Sameer (15860) I hope you understand clear. Regards Prasanna.G Regards Prasanna.G , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Dear Sudhir, Sandy, Prasanna and all, > No , it is still something wrong somewhere. > Whether you take AST +4 with no DST or EST +5 with Yes DST, the asc will be 25 Le 17. I am getting KAS ayanamsa as 22:35:46 and not as 22:10:18. > This difference in ayanamsa may change the planets longitudes but it does not reflect here. Why ? > For the verification of birth time I re-checked the date of marriage with antara lord. > The native married in Me antara (third sector ) of Me main. > Me is in house E with 4 bindus. Me is one of the significator for 7th house. > Me may give the event for 7th house matter. > Now come to the point of the birth of his Son. > Son was born on 4 Nov 2005 when Ke antara was passing through. > Ke is SD to Me ,LoD for 5th. > Daughter was born on 15 May 2007 when second sector of Ve antara was running. > Ve is LoE for 5th. > There is no delay by Sa for the matter of 5th so the event took place in first sector. > Let us examine his event of building his own house in 2002. > The dasa and antara running was Sa- Ju. > Ju is LoC for 4th, LoE for 12th and LoD for 11th. > Ju is strong in all these houses in WS.. > But the point in 12th should have been more than that of 11th instead it is less. > Let me examine the event which took place on 17 Oct 2007 during second sector of Ve antara of Me main. > Ve is strong in all houses in WS. > Ve is LoD for 1st and 6th. > As per KAS theory LoD and LoE always give good results. > Death is considered as a good event but hospitalisation and sickness may not be considered a good event. > For the matter of 1st (SELF) house the significators are Su and Ju. > The FK is Ju who is in 6th house of disease and this 6th is LoE for 1st. > LoE is Sa. Ve antara is NSD to Sa. > Me is NK and Sa is FK for 4th house of chest. > This karak occupy 12th house of hospital and aspected by the FK of self from the house of disease. > The karak for 6th is strongly posited in karaksthann of 4th. > Su is strongly afflicted by Ma, Sa and Ra so the chest pain. > I want to ask that for the timing of Ve antara for the matter of 1st, 6th and 12th the points in WS should have been less than 12 points. > Otherwise we may assume that good events will be given by Ve or for whom it is SD being LoD and LoE. > Hope you understand my query. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > Sudhir <taurus.sudhir wrote: > Thanks Sandy, Its OK now > > Is MD, .....Maryland ? > > Regards > Sudhir > > > On 11/18/07, Sandy Crowther <sandycrowther wrote: Dear Ramesh, Prasanna, and Sudhir, > Popped in for a moment tonight and saw the confusion going on...Here's the chart you are referencing. Please note the correct data input for the KAS Worksheet. Eastern Daylight Time was in effect, making it Eastern Standard Time on the Worksheet, with 1 hour DST in effect. > Hope this helps clear the confusion. > Warm regards, > Sandy > > NAME: PLACE: Annapolis MD BIRTHDATE: 22-Jun-1943 Time Zone: EST +05:00 TIME: 12:3 DST: Yes Latitude: 38 N 58 KAS AYANAMSA: 22:10:18 Longitude: 76 W 29 Rasi- NATAL CHART 4 Navamsa - SPOUSE D9 8 33 9 30 10 32 11 26 5 29 6 27 7 26 8 30 Ma Me Sa Su Ma Me 7 24 12 25 4 27 9 26 Mo Bitmap D Ju Ve Ra Ve Ra A B Natal Divisional 6 32 1 23 3 33 Chart 10 23 Ke E C Asc Ju Sa Ke > 5 33 4 26 3 27 2 26 2 29 1 22 12 34 11 31 Su Mo Asc ASHTARKAVARGA POWER DIVISIONAL CHART DETAILS TRANSIT CHART (SOUTH) NATAL Bitmap SU MO MA ME JU VE SA BINDUS 5 3 4 7 3 4 4 TRANSIT DATE IS: 17-Nov- 07 NATAL CHART DATA NATAL DASA SUMMARY Planet Degrees Nakshatra Lord Navamsa Mahadasa Start To ... > > [Message clipped] > Save all your chat conversations. Find them online. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2007 Report Share Posted November 18, 2007 Dear Parsanna, Sorry to interfere but want to add few words,i read in archives. If for 7th house a planet is with less points,it can give accident.If this planet is with good points for 6th so the native will be cured.And in 8th house if this is weak, so no fear for giving any bad result. Regards Anup prasanna_1978 <prasanna_1978 wrote: Dear Ramesh I try to explain in KAS way please forgive me if any wrong in my attempt I m not expert in KAS system.as mentioned by Sandy next day he discharged from hospital and due to stress he got disease, this only passing clouds disease may be one day or two days it will be cured.Small analogy- 6th house is satru stana as per theory, D and E lord give good thing, to whom? To the house right that? means satru - bad for native–so 6th house highest point will give disease if same planet highest point in 8th house it will give chronic disease For day to day activities (small activities) check PDF instead of AD.PDF Venus-Mars running at the time of incident Venus is highest score of 6th house and less score in 8thhouse so it is not chronic only some problem in the health-Refer Mr.ASH mail to Sameer (15860).Venus –Mars –highest point of 1st house,3rd house (3rd house chest –non cardiac problem not 4th house -heart)-Refer Paladeepika thats why I mentioned Gemini rules chest not heart . I understood you question kindly check Mr. Ash mail reply to Mr. Sameer (15860) I hope you understand clear. RegardsPrasanna.GRegardsPrasanna.G , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote:>> Dear Sudhir, Sandy, Prasanna and all,> No , it is still something wrong somewhere.> Whether you take AST +4 with no DST or EST +5 with Yes DST, the asc will be 25 Le 17. I am getting KAS ayanamsa as 22:35:46 and not as 22:10:18.> This difference in ayanamsa may change the planets longitudes but it does not reflect here. Why ?> For the verification of birth time I re-checked the date of marriage with antara lord.> The native married in Me antara (third sector ) of Me main.> Me is in house E with 4 bindus. Me is one of the significator for 7th house.> Me may give the event for 7th house matter.> Now come to the point of the birth of his Son.> Son was born on 4 Nov 2005 when Ke antara was passing through.> Ke is SD to Me ,LoD for 5th.> Daughter was born on 15 May 2007 when second sector of Ve antara was running.> Ve is LoE for 5th.> There is no delay by Sa for the matter of 5th so the event took place in first sector.> Let us examine his event of building his own house in 2002.> The dasa and antara running was Sa- Ju.> Ju is LoC for 4th, LoE for 12th and LoD for 11th.> Ju is strong in all these houses in WS..> But the point in 12th should have been more than that of 11th instead it is less.> Let me examine the event which took place on 17 Oct 2007 during second sector of Ve antara of Me main.> Ve is strong in all houses in WS.> Ve is LoD for 1st and 6th.> As per KAS theory LoD and LoE always give good results.> Death is considered as a good event but hospitalisation and sickness may not be considered a good event.> For the matter of 1st (SELF) house the significators are Su and Ju.> The FK is Ju who is in 6th house of disease and this 6th is LoE for 1st.> LoE is Sa. Ve antara is NSD to Sa.> Me is NK and Sa is FK for 4th house of chest.> This karak occupy 12th house of hospital and aspected by the FK of self from the house of disease.> The karak for 6th is strongly posited in karaksthann of 4th.> Su is strongly afflicted by Ma, Sa and Ra so the chest pain.> I want to ask that for the timing of Ve antara for the matter of 1st, 6th and 12th the points in WS should have been less than 12 points.> Otherwise we may assume that good events will be given by Ve or for whom it is SD being LoD and LoE.> Hope you understand my query.> Thanks and regards.> Ramesh Mishra > > Sudhir <taurus.sudhir wrote:> Thanks Sandy, Its OK now> > Is MD, .....Maryland ?> > Regards> Sudhir> > > On 11/18/07, Sandy Crowther <sandycrowther wrote: Dear Ramesh, Prasanna, and Sudhir,> Popped in for a moment tonight and saw the confusion going on...Here's the chart you are referencing. Please note the correct data input for the KAS Worksheet. Eastern Daylight Time was in effect, making it Eastern Standard Time on the Worksheet, with 1 hour DST in effect. > Hope this helps clear the confusion. > Warm regards,> Sandy> > NAME: PLACE: Annapolis MD BIRTHDATE: 22-Jun-1943 Time Zone: EST +05:00 TIME: 12:3 DST: Yes Latitude: 38 N 58 KAS AYANAMSA: 22:10:18 Longitude: 76 W 29Rasi- NATAL CHART 4 Navamsa - SPOUSE D9 8 33 9 30 10 32 11 26 5 29 6 27 7 26 8 30 Ma Me Sa Su Ma Me 7 24 12 25 4 27 9 26 Mo Bitmap D Ju Ve Ra Ve Ra A B Natal Divisional 6 32 1 23 3 33 Chart 10 23 Ke E C Asc Ju Sa Ke > 5 33 4 26 3 27 2 26 2 29 1 22 12 34 11 31 Su Mo AscASHTARKAVARGA POWER DIVISIONAL CHART DETAILS TRANSIT CHART (SOUTH) NATAL Bitmap SU MO MA ME JU VE SA BINDUS 5 3 4 7 3 4 4 TRANSIT DATE IS: 17-Nov-07NATAL CHART DATA NATAL DASA SUMMARYPlanet Degrees Nakshatra Lord Navamsa Mahadasa Start To > > > > > > > ...> > [Message clipped] > > > > > > > > Save all your chat conversations. Find them online.> Be a better sports nut! 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Guest guest Posted November 18, 2007 Report Share Posted November 18, 2007 Dear Prasanna, Good to see your posts on the list. Hope to learn a lot from you in the coming days. Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of prasanna_1978 Sunday, November 18, 2007 5:01 PM Re: Chart Analysis Dear Ramesh I try to explain in KAS way please forgive me if any wrong in my attempt I m not expert in KAS system.as mentioned by Sandy next day he discharged from hospital and due to stress he got disease, this only passing clouds disease may be one day or two days it will be cured. Small analogy- 6th house is satru stana as per theory, D and E lord give good thing, to whom? To the house right that? means satru - bad for native–so 6th house highest point will give disease if same planet highest point in 8th house it will give chronic disease For day to day activities (small activities) check PDF instead of AD. PDF Venus-Mars running at the time of incident Venus is highest score of 6th house and less score in 8thhouse so it is not chronic only some problem in the health-Refer Mr.ASH mail to Sameer (15860). Venus –Mars –highest point of 1st house,3rd house (3rd house chest – non cardiac problem not 4th house -heart)-Refer Paladeepika thats why I mentioned Gemini rules chest not heart . I understood you question kindly check Mr. Ash mail reply to Mr. Sameer (15860) I hope you understand clear. Regards Prasanna.G Regards Prasanna.G , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Dear Sudhir, Sandy, Prasanna and all, > No , it is still something wrong somewhere. > Whether you take AST +4 with no DST or EST +5 with Yes DST, the asc will be 25 Le 17. I am getting KAS ayanamsa as 22:35:46 and not as 22:10:18. > This difference in ayanamsa may change the planets longitudes but it does not reflect here. Why ? > For the verification of birth time I re-checked the date of marriage with antara lord. > The native married in Me antara (third sector ) of Me main. > Me is in house E with 4 bindus. Me is one of the significator for 7th house. > Me may give the event for 7th house matter. > Now come to the point of the birth of his Son. > Son was born on 4 Nov 2005 when Ke antara was passing through. > Ke is SD to Me ,LoD for 5th. > Daughter was born on 15 May 2007 when second sector of Ve antara was running. > Ve is LoE for 5th. > There is no delay by Sa for the matter of 5th so the event took place in first sector. > Let us examine his event of building his own house in 2002. > The dasa and antara running was Sa- Ju. > Ju is LoC for 4th, LoE for 12th and LoD for 11th. > Ju is strong in all these houses in WS.. > But the point in 12th should have been more than that of 11th instead it is less. > Let me examine the event which took place on 17 Oct 2007 during second sector of Ve antara of Me main. > Ve is strong in all houses in WS. > Ve is LoD for 1st and 6th. > As per KAS theory LoD and LoE always give good results. > Death is considered as a good event but hospitalisation and sickness may not be considered a good event. > For the matter of 1st (SELF) house the significators are Su and Ju. > The FK is Ju who is in 6th house of disease and this 6th is LoE for 1st. > LoE is Sa. Ve antara is NSD to Sa. > Me is NK and Sa is FK for 4th house of chest. > This karak occupy 12th house of hospital and aspected by the FK of self from the house of disease. > The karak for 6th is strongly posited in karaksthann of 4th. > Su is strongly afflicted by Ma, Sa and Ra so the chest pain. > I want to ask that for the timing of Ve antara for the matter of 1st, 6th and 12th the points in WS should have been less than 12 points. > Otherwise we may assume that good events will be given by Ve or for whom it is SD being LoD and LoE. > Hope you understand my query. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > Sudhir <taurus.sudhir wrote: > Thanks Sandy, Its OK now > > Is MD, .....Maryland ? > > Regards > Sudhir > > > On 11/18/07, Sandy Crowther <sandycrowther wrote: Dear Ramesh, Prasanna, and Sudhir, > Popped in for a moment tonight and saw the confusion going on...Here's the chart you are referencing. Please note the correct data input for the KAS Worksheet. Eastern Daylight Time was in effect, making it Eastern Standard Time on the Worksheet, with 1 hour DST in effect. > Hope this helps clear the confusion. > Warm regards, > Sandy > > NAME: PLACE: Annapolis MD BIRTHDATE: 22-Jun-1943 Time Zone: EST +05:00 TIME: 12:3 DST: Yes Latitude: 38 N 58 KAS AYANAMSA: 22:10:18 Longitude: 76 W 29 Rasi- NATAL CHART 4 Navamsa - SPOUSE D9 8 33 9 30 10 32 11 26 5 29 6 27 7 26 8 30 Ma Me Sa Su Ma Me 7 24 12 25 4 27 9 26 Mo Bitmap D Ju Ve Ra Ve Ra A B Natal Divisional 6 32 1 23 3 33 Chart 10 23 Ke E C Asc Ju Sa Ke > 5 33 4 26 3 27 2 26 2 29 1 22 12 34 11 31 Su Mo Asc ASHTARKAVARGA POWER DIVISIONAL CHART DETAILS TRANSIT CHART (SOUTH) NATAL Bitmap SU MO MA ME JU VE SA BINDUS 5 3 4 7 3 4 4 TRANSIT DATE IS: 17-Nov- 07 NATAL CHART DATA NATAL DASA SUMMARY Planet Degrees Nakshatra Lord Navamsa Mahadasa Start To ... > > [Message clipped] > Save all your chat conversations. Find them online. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2007 Report Share Posted November 18, 2007 Dear Anup, 7th house is aragla for 6th house –for money point of view it is dhana aragla (so it is money for satru)-so this is reason may be Mr. Krishna ji mentioned theft from 7th house. Same is applicable for disease, disease point of view it is permanent scar –may be accident(second house refer permanent disease),that's Mr.Krishna Ji mentioned accident. Some time having good points in 6th house is curing how? it is based on what part of body is affected based on kalapursha of the house,it is 11th or 5th from parts of body 6th house will give good result. But my experience 6th house with more points giving diseases (I checked only limited charts),for accident I did not try with KAS. I hope my limited knowledge I explained. Regards Prasanna.G , " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Parsanna, > > Sorry to interfere but want to add few words,i read in archives. > > If for 7th house a planet is with less points,it can give accident. > If this planet is with good points for 6th so the native will be cured. > And in 8th house if this is weak, so no fear for giving any bad result. > > Regards > Anup > > > > prasanna_1978 <prasanna_1978 wrote: > Dear Ramesh > > I try to explain in KAS way please forgive me if any wrong in my > attempt I m not expert in KAS system.as mentioned by Sandy next day > he discharged from hospital and due to stress he got disease, this > only passing clouds disease may be one day or two days it will be > cured. > > Small analogy- 6th house is satru stana as per theory, D and E lord > give good thing, to whom? To the house right that? means satru - bad > for native–so 6th house highest point will give disease if same > planet highest point in 8th house it will give chronic disease > > For day to day activities (small activities) check PDF instead of AD. > PDF Venus-Mars running at the time of incident Venus is highest score > of 6th house and less score in 8thhouse so it is not chronic only > some problem in the health-Refer Mr.ASH mail to Sameer (15860). > Venus –Mars –highest point of 1st house,3rd house (3rd house chest – > non cardiac problem not 4th house -heart)-Refer Paladeepika thats > why I mentioned Gemini rules chest not heart . > > I understood you question kindly check Mr. Ash mail reply to Mr. > Sameer (15860) I hope you understand clear. > > Regards > > Prasanna.G > > Regards > > Prasanna.G > > , ramesh mishra > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sudhir, Sandy, Prasanna and all, > > No , it is still something wrong somewhere. > > Whether you take AST +4 with no DST or EST +5 with Yes DST, the > asc will be 25 Le 17. I am getting KAS ayanamsa as 22:35:46 and not > as 22:10:18. > > This difference in ayanamsa may change the planets longitudes > but it does not reflect here. Why ? > > For the verification of birth time I re-checked the date of > marriage with antara lord. > > The native married in Me antara (third sector ) of Me main. > > Me is in house E with 4 bindus. Me is one of the significator for > 7th house. > > Me may give the event for 7th house matter. > > Now come to the point of the birth of his Son. > > Son was born on 4 Nov 2005 when Ke antara was passing through. > > Ke is SD to Me ,LoD for 5th. > > Daughter was born on 15 May 2007 when second sector of Ve antara > was running. > > Ve is LoE for 5th. > > There is no delay by Sa for the matter of 5th so the event took > place in first sector. > > Let us examine his event of building his own house in 2002. > > The dasa and antara running was Sa- Ju. > > Ju is LoC for 4th, LoE for 12th and LoD for 11th. > > Ju is strong in all these houses in WS.. > > But the point in 12th should have been more than that of 11th > instead it is less. > > Let me examine the event which took place on 17 Oct 2007 during > second sector of Ve antara of Me main. > > Ve is strong in all houses in WS. > > Ve is LoD for 1st and 6th. > > As per KAS theory LoD and LoE always give good results. > > Death is considered as a good event but hospitalisation and > sickness may not be considered a good event. > > For the matter of 1st (SELF) house the significators are Su and > Ju. > > The FK is Ju who is in 6th house of disease and this 6th is LoE > for 1st. > > LoE is Sa. Ve antara is NSD to Sa. > > Me is NK and Sa is FK for 4th house of chest. > > This karak occupy 12th house of hospital and aspected by the FK > of self from the house of disease. > > The karak for 6th is strongly posited in karaksthann of 4th. > > Su is strongly afflicted by Ma, Sa and Ra so the chest pain. > > I want to ask that for the timing of Ve antara for the matter of > 1st, 6th and 12th the points in WS should have been less than 12 > points. > > Otherwise we may assume that good events will be given by Ve or > for whom it is SD being LoD and LoE. > > Hope you understand my query. > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > Sudhir <taurus.sudhir@> wrote: > > Thanks Sandy, Its OK now > > > > Is MD, .....Maryland ? > > > > Regards > > Sudhir > > > > > > On 11/18/07, Sandy Crowther <sandycrowther@> > wrote: Dear Ramesh, Prasanna, and Sudhir, > > Popped in for a moment tonight and saw the confusion going > on...Here's the chart you are referencing. Please note the correct > data input for the KAS Worksheet. Eastern Daylight Time was in > effect, making it Eastern Standard Time on the Worksheet, with 1 hour > DST in effect. > > Hope this helps clear the confusion. > > Warm regards, > > Sandy > > > > NAME: PLACE: Annapolis > MD BIRTHDATE: 22-Jun-1943 Time Zone: EST > +05:00 TIME: 12:3 DST: Yes Latitude: > 38 N 58 KAS AYANAMSA: 22:10:18 Longitude: 76 > W > 29 > > Rasi- NATAL CHART 4 Navamsa - SPOUSE > D9 8 > 33 9 30 10 32 11 26 5 29 6 27 7 > 26 8 30 Ma Me Sa Su Ma > Me 7 24 12 25 4 > 27 9 26 Mo Bitmap > D Ju Ve Ra Ve Ra A > B Natal Divisional 6 32 1 > 23 3 33 Chart 10 23 Ke E > C Asc Ju Sa Ke > > 5 33 4 26 3 > 27 2 26 2 29 1 22 12 34 11 > 31 Su Mo > Asc > > ASHTARKAVARGA POWER DIVISIONAL CHART > DETAILS TRANSIT CHART > (SOUTH) NATAL Bitmap SU MO MA ME JU > VE SA BINDUS 5 3 > 4 7 3 4 4 TRANSIT DATE IS: 17-Nov- > 07 > > NATAL CHART DATA NATAL DASA > SUMMARY > > Planet Degrees Nakshatra Lord Navamsa Mahadasa Start > To > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > [Message clipped] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Save all your chat conversations. 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Guest guest Posted November 18, 2007 Report Share Posted November 18, 2007 Dear Mini, I tried to analyse your chart and as Satish mentioned, I also think that your lagna seems to be more of pisces lagna then aquarius. Considering your overall chart following are some of the points that are evident: 1. There are more sectors of ma. It indicates a more impulsive nature and gives tendency to take decisions without much thought. 2. There is a zero in 2nd house, karak house for 7th (marriage). 3. Currently Sa + Ju is 8 so that is good. 4. Currently dasha is of mo/me, mo/ke (like mo/ma) is about to start. Ma is weak for 7th and 2nd. 5. Next antra is of mo/ve having good strength for 7th and 2nd. It start july 2008. 6. Your stay in foreign land also matches with the chart. 7. Lagna lord is in 6th house so you would have a good personality. I think the period from dec to july 2008 might be a little difficult for you. There might be continuation of struggles that you are currently facing. However, try hard not to let this period cause over stress to you. Come July 2008 you will see the difference that the period brings. Things will fall back in place. Life is like that only. If a good period does not stay for long, the same applied to bad periods also. So, don't worry too much. You should make yourself get interested in other activities, (maybe devote more time to your children to make sure that their up-bringing is not getting affected). After all the best we can do is try and stand up against times of distress. Good times will also follow. Make sure that your attitude against your husband is still that of giving support when he needs it. His attitude may change. I think you can bring a change. You are a down to earth lady, it will be easy for you to stay calm. Just see things through before taking any impulsive action. I hope this helps. Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of minixx20 Thursday, November 15, 2007 3:01 AM Re: chart analysis Respected Guruji, i have done a big mistake in my life by not listening to my parents.I married foreigner,changing my religion and relocating to a foreign country,at the time of marriage(which happened suddenly without infroming my parnts) i knew that he was a divorcee.Now after all these years with 3 small sons,he has married secretly a young filipino girl young enuf to be his daughter.He treats her like a queen but doesnt care for me or his kids that much.I have fear that he might divorce me and make this girl his legal wife(as per rule of the government here,only one foreign wife is allowed).Lately he keeps telling me that he feels he is only going ot live for 3 years more. Sir,I have sacrificed a lot for this man and he is leaving me alone to bring up 3 kids in a foreign country.All the money that he makes goes to the other woman.at this date we dont have a house to call our own and my kids have no security. pls find below the dates which might be important; December 1990;joined foreign airlines as an airhostess Septemebr 1994;met my husband March 1995; married(and was living in india till june 97) Late 1996;my father came to know about my marrieage 19th January 1997; my first son was born 26 jan 97; my father died june1997;relocated abroad Oct.2001:my second son was born 2002 Oct; my third son was born 2002 we started struggling because my husband lost his job and we were staying with his brother and when my son was born i couldnt stay with them and moved to my friends house with my 3 kids,later he followed.With the help and follow up with my friends,he got a job and we moved out of my friend's house and got a house of our own on rent.Meanwhile his big son(from british exwife) who had stayed with us for 3 years and was still living with his uncle,joined us. June 2003,he died.my husband was jailed,i was dividing my time between the hospital and jail.Again with my friends help I got him out.there was a case and he had his passport confisticated for 6 months due to negligience. Finally in 2004 i got a job and was working from morning till night. this made him go to thailand a lot.one fine day he left his work and brought this girl and opened his own business.this girl is very good in computers and i suspect theres some deal with her.The reason iam mentioning details is because since 2002 iam suffering. my husbands dob;11oct 1956,palce;zanzibar,tiome;approx 10am the other woamn dob;14 july 1980 born in pasig,phillipines. please tell me what should i look forward to if there anyhing... my life seems to have finished. Highest regards mini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2007 Report Share Posted November 18, 2007 Dear Parsanna, Every house reflects many fields of life and relation between 6th,7th and 8th house is also peculiar one. The example i wrote in my previous mail was in context with Mars antra and not exclusive 6th house points. Mars controls the diseases related to blood,nerves,wounds etc. So i too think Krushnaji must have this thing in mind while explaing this. Unlike other houses,less points in 6th,8th and 12th houses are considered good.This can affect 6th house from respective house,being Karka of that house. Regards Anup prasanna_1978 <prasanna_1978 wrote: Dear Anup,7th house is aragla for 6th house –for money point of view it is dhana aragla (so it is money for satru)-so this is reason may be Mr. Krishna ji mentioned theft from 7th house.Same is applicable for disease, disease point of view it is permanent scar –may be accident(second house refer permanent disease),that's Mr.Krishna Ji mentioned accident. Some time having good points in 6th house is curing how? it is based on what part of body is affected based on kalapursha of the house,it is 11th or 5th from parts of body 6th house will give good result.But my experience 6th house with more points giving diseases (I checked only limited charts),for accident I did not try with KAS.I hope my limited knowledge I explained. RegardsPrasanna.G , "Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote:>> Dear Parsanna,> > Sorry to interfere but want to add few words,i read in archives.> > If for 7th house a planet is with less points,it can give accident.> If this planet is with good points for 6th so the native will be cured.> And in 8th house if this is weak, so no fear for giving any bad result.> > Regards> Anup> > > > > > > > > > > prasanna_1978 <prasanna_1978 wrote:> Dear Ramesh > > I try to explain in KAS way please forgive me if any wrong in my > attempt I m not expert in KAS system.as mentioned by Sandy next day > he discharged from hospital and due to stress he got disease, this > only passing clouds disease may be one day or two days it will be > cured.> > Small analogy- 6th house is satru stana as per theory, D and E lord > give good thing, to whom? To the house right that? means satru - bad > for native–so 6th house highest point will give disease if same > planet highest point in 8th house it will give chronic disease > > For day to day activities (small activities) check PDF instead of AD.> PDF Venus-Mars running at the time of incident Venus is highest score > of 6th house and less score in 8thhouse so it is not chronic only > some problem in the health-Refer Mr.ASH mail to Sameer (15860).> Venus –Mars –highest point of 1st house,3rd house (3rd house chest –> non cardiac problem not 4th house -heart)-Refer Paladeepika thats > why I mentioned Gemini rules chest not heart . > > I understood you question kindly check Mr. Ash mail reply to Mr. > Sameer (15860) I hope you understand clear. > > Regards> > Prasanna.G> > Regards> > Prasanna.G> > , ramesh mishra > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> >> > Dear Sudhir, Sandy, Prasanna and all,> > No , it is still something wrong somewhere.> > Whether you take AST +4 with no DST or EST +5 with Yes DST, the > asc will be 25 Le 17. I am getting KAS ayanamsa as 22:35:46 and not > as 22:10:18.> > This difference in ayanamsa may change the planets longitudes > but it does not reflect here. Why ?> > For the verification of birth time I re-checked the date of > marriage with antara lord.> > The native married in Me antara (third sector ) of Me main.> > Me is in house E with 4 bindus. Me is one of the significator for > 7th house.> > Me may give the event for 7th house matter.> > Now come to the point of the birth of his Son.> > Son was born on 4 Nov 2005 when Ke antara was passing through.> > Ke is SD to Me ,LoD for 5th.> > Daughter was born on 15 May 2007 when second sector of Ve antara > was running.> > Ve is LoE for 5th.> > There is no delay by Sa for the matter of 5th so the event took > place in first sector.> > Let us examine his event of building his own house in 2002.> > The dasa and antara running was Sa- Ju.> > Ju is LoC for 4th, LoE for 12th and LoD for 11th.> > Ju is strong in all these houses in WS..> > But the point in 12th should have been more than that of 11th > instead it is less.> > Let me examine the event which took place on 17 Oct 2007 during > second sector of Ve antara of Me main.> > Ve is strong in all houses in WS.> > Ve is LoD for 1st and 6th.> > As per KAS theory LoD and LoE always give good results.> > Death is considered as a good event but hospitalisation and > sickness may not be considered a good event.> > For the matter of 1st (SELF) house the significators are Su and > Ju.> > The FK is Ju who is in 6th house of disease and this 6th is LoE > for 1st.> > LoE is Sa. Ve antara is NSD to Sa.> > Me is NK and Sa is FK for 4th house of chest.> > This karak occupy 12th house of hospital and aspected by the FK > of self from the house of disease.> > The karak for 6th is strongly posited in karaksthann of 4th.> > Su is strongly afflicted by Ma, Sa and Ra so the chest pain.> > I want to ask that for the timing of Ve antara for the matter of > 1st, 6th and 12th the points in WS should have been less than 12 > points.> > Otherwise we may assume that good events will be given by Ve or > for whom it is SD being LoD and LoE.> > Hope you understand my query.> > Thanks and regards.> > Ramesh Mishra > > > > Sudhir <taurus.sudhir@> wrote:> > Thanks Sandy, Its OK now> > > > Is MD, .....Maryland ?> > > > Regards> > Sudhir> > > > > > On 11/18/07, Sandy Crowther <sandycrowther@> > wrote: Dear Ramesh, Prasanna, and Sudhir,> > Popped in for a moment tonight and saw the confusion going > on...Here's the chart you are referencing. Please note the correct > data input for the KAS Worksheet. Eastern Daylight Time was in > effect, making it Eastern Standard Time on the Worksheet, with 1 hour > DST in effect. > > Hope this helps clear the confusion. > > Warm regards,> > Sandy> > > > NAME: PLACE: Annapolis > MD BIRTHDATE: 22-Jun-1943 Time Zone: EST > +05:00 TIME: 12:3 DST: Yes Latitude: > 38 N 58 KAS AYANAMSA: 22:10:18 Longitude: 76 > W > 29> > Rasi- NATAL CHART 4 Navamsa - SPOUSE > D9 8 > 33 9 30 10 32 11 26 5 29 6 27 7 > 26 8 30 Ma Me Sa Su Ma > Me 7 24 12 25 4 > 27 9 26 Mo Bitmap > D Ju Ve Ra Ve Ra A > B Natal Divisional 6 32 1 > 23 3 33 Chart 10 23 Ke E > C Asc Ju Sa Ke > > 5 33 4 26 3 > 27 2 26 2 29 1 22 12 34 11 > 31 Su Mo > Asc> > ASHTARKAVARGA POWER DIVISIONAL CHART > DETAILS TRANSIT CHART > (SOUTH) NATAL Bitmap SU MO MA ME JU > VE SA BINDUS 5 3 > 4 7 3 4 4 TRANSIT DATE IS: 17-Nov-> 07> > NATAL CHART DATA NATAL DASA > SUMMARY> > Planet Degrees Nakshatra Lord Navamsa Mahadasa Start > To > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...> > > > [Message clipped] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Save all your chat conversations. 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Guest guest Posted November 18, 2007 Report Share Posted November 18, 2007 Dear Prasanna and List members, I just came to the site and taking a short break and I read a few mails so I am just penning some thoughts that I read in some emails all bundled into this email. 7th house is that for accident. 7th is opposite party from 1st who is self. We do not use Argala and things like that in KAS. In KAS all such things are already considered indirectly, but for that you must keep a clean slate and not mix systems. KAS has a particular way and an approach to solve charts. Now 6th house as per KAS is like a black hole and the lord of 6th house is malefic. 6th house is also that of stomach and that’s the root of all illness and disease. 6th house is that of enmity and 7th house is that of accident. As per VA, 7th and 2nd house are called Marak Sthan and as per KAS we are giving this with proper reasoning that 7th house is that of Accident (NOT DEATH) and House A is 2nd house so that is the KARAK sthan for 7th house. What Krushnaji has given in lessons, if read with concentration will solve so many of the riddles of VA and with proper and concrete reasoning using the theory of KAS. Now Prasanna, think over it logically. 7th house is that of dincharya or day to day activity. Its 10th from 10th house which is that of Karma and authority. Now if there are low points in 7th house then that might affect the dincharya and so if there is an major accident then 7th house will get affected and person might have to change his or her day to day routine. Now take case of Heart Attack. Once a person gets a heart attack (Accident and 7th house is here) then his or her lifestyle has to be changed if one wants to prolong life. 2nd house is the Karak for 7th house and that controls the quality of result of 7th house. So in VA this might have been called MARAK meaning “Killer” in the literal sense, however as per KAS, death is from 8th house and accident can be seen from 7th house. Now if MD is related to 2nd and 3rd and AD is powerful for 8th and less for 7th and even less for 6th house then the person might die as a result of accident during that particular MD and Antra and since 6th house power is less then the person might be able to recover from the accident. 6th house is upachaya sthan for 1st house. 1st house and that of SELF is KARAK for 6th house. So 1st house is important for 6th house and for 1st house 6th is E and for 6th house 1st house is A. House C is 10th house. 6th house, if its weak i.e if points are weak in the WS the then native might face problems regarding 6th house matters and one of the things represented by 6th house is health. Now in some MD a person might face more problems w.r.t job and in other MD the native might face more problems related to health. However, now 3rd and 11th lords are D and E for 6th house so in their antra, the person might have good results of 6th house so u can say that if a person is sick he might get a good boost to recover or maybe his ailment might be diagnosed properly in antra of such lord and proper corrective action might be prescribed or maybe the native might come across a new drug that might cause better recovery or things of such sort. So here as per KAS, we are teaching you to think more logically and I am sure that once u know the root reason or think logically you will have better confidence in your predictions. Even, diagnosis of ailments, for that one must have good medical knowledge to understand that say if Venus is badly spoilt then that over time might lead to severe problems with liver or diabetes or certain laws of VA that Sa with 6th lord in 3rd house might make one prone to asthama or breathing related problems and things like that. So for that u must go into detail and study each planet from all angles and should have proper and sound understanding of what might cause a particular illness. If a person is facing more problems with stomach then 6th house, 1st house, sun etc play a role and exactly how is what one can understand. The medical portion of KAS is yet to be taught by Krushnaji and maybe he want to teach other lessons first before we go into the depths of the application of KAS in fields like Prashna, Medical Astrology, the micro astrology portion, Vastu portion, Mundane and event o Nadi level. For that we must first get the portion taught and the technique well engrained in our minds so that when you go into the application, you will venture into it with a good and strong foundation and with a mindset that is logical and based on concrete footing. Now Prasanna raised a question about having a permanent scar. Now is that an accident? Say how is that different from a person loosing his hand or leg in a accident? How would u judge what is accident? So here do u go by whats in the good books or u start to use your logic and reasoning and go to the very basis that 7th house deals with Dincharya. 1st is SELF and 7th is Opposite of that. So something that can affect a dincharya might be “termed” as an accident. So a permenant scar, say on a hand, that heals, v/s a scar or an infection that might get infected by gangarine and have to be operated on and removed? So would that be an accident? So here its very important that one must think logically and go back to the basics to understand what it means. So why is 7th and 2nd house called maraks by our seers? What were they thinking when they might have said that? Did they mean that u study DEATH from 7th and 2nd house ? then what is the use of 8th house for death and 3rd as the karak? Now, study this from the view point of KAS and then u will get some answers, now I don’t say that u might get all the answers though I personally believe you can get it in due course of time and as the understanding increase in time, but in KAS we are dealing with things on a concrete footing with proper reasoning again from the view point of KAS. There might be many ways and systems dealing each in their own way to decipher an event or approach it, and KAS has its own way and approach and also the students who are learning KAS will have a logical mind and an approach as this system is based on scientific calculations. Now you talked of Kalpurush chart and in KAS we consider them first and we called them Natural KARAK’s and the status of that is given a lot of importance so such things are also considered in the basic fabric of KAS in its approach. Yes, what Prasanna mentioned is correct about the classification of the event i.e is it a day to day event or is it a big major one time life event or events that don’t happen too often. For example death is a one time and most important event of life or when say one buys a house or a car, now these might be for most of the genral Janta some big events that do not happen too often in life, v/s timing when one will eat their food or when some guest will arrive at your home. So there is a definite classification and categorization of such events and one must be mindful of that as well. Now take an example of a Job, then for that Natal chart is important and one can study the relevant house and come to a prediction based on the WS and the KAS technique, but if one person has given an interview and then coming in few days and asking, I have given such and such an interview now will the result be favorable, then to answer such question you might have to study the Natal chart and take help of Prashna. Yes, you can also get idea from the Natal chart by studying the daily points and that will give a reflection as well. Ok, these were my thoughts on some of the emails that I have penned down. It might be a repetition of things that I have already said in my various mails over time and some related to some questions. I am out of time….. still so much more to write…… Take care Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of prasanna_1978 Sunday November 18, 2007 11:20 AM Subject: Re: Chart Analysis Dear Anup, 7th house is aragla for 6th house –for money point of view it is dhana aragla (so it is money for satru)-so this is reason may be Mr. Krishna ji mentioned theft from 7th house. Same is applicable for disease, disease point of view it is permanent scar –may be accident(second house refer permanent disease),that's Mr.Krishna Ji mentioned accident. Some time having good points in 6th house is curing how? it is based on what part of body is affected based on kalapursha of the house,it is 11th or 5th from parts of body 6th house will give good result. But my experience 6th house with more points giving diseases (I checked only limited charts),for accident I did not try with KAS. I hope my limited knowledge I explained. Regards Prasanna.G , " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Parsanna, > > Sorry to interfere but want to add few words,i read in archives. > > If for 7th house a planet is with less points,it can give accident. > If this planet is with good points for 6th so the native will be cured. > And in 8th house if this is weak, so no fear for giving any bad result. > > Regards > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > prasanna_1978 <prasanna_1978 wrote: > Dear Ramesh > > I try to explain in KAS way please forgive me if any wrong in my > attempt I m not expert in KAS system.as mentioned by Sandy next day > he discharged from hospital and due to stress he got disease, this > only passing clouds disease may be one day or two days it will be > cured. > > Small analogy- 6th house is satru stana as per theory, D and E lord > give good thing, to whom? To the house right that? means satru - bad > for native–so 6th house highest point will give disease if same > planet highest point in 8th house it will give chronic disease > > For day to day activities (small activities) check PDF instead of AD. > PDF Venus-Mars running at the time of incident Venus is highest score > of 6th house and less score in 8thhouse so it is not chronic only > some problem in the health-Refer Mr.ASH mail to Sameer (15860). > Venus –Mars –highest point of 1st house,3rd house (3rd house chest – > non cardiac problem not 4th house -heart)-Refer Paladeepika thats > why I mentioned Gemini rules chest not heart . > > I understood you question kindly check Mr. Ash mail reply to Mr. > Sameer (15860) I hope you understand clear. > > Regards > > Prasanna.G > > Regards > > Prasanna.G > > , ramesh mishra > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sudhir, Sandy, Prasanna and all, > > No , it is still something wrong somewhere. > > Whether you take AST +4 with no DST or EST +5 with Yes DST, the > asc will be 25 Le 17. I am getting KAS ayanamsa as 22:35:46 and not > as 22:10:18. > > This difference in ayanamsa may change the planets longitudes > but it does not reflect here. Why ? > > For the verification of birth time I re-checked the date of > marriage with antara lord. > > The native married in Me antara (third sector ) of Me main. > > Me is in house E with 4 bindus. Me is one of the significator for > 7th house. > > Me may give the event for 7th house matter. > > Now come to the point of the birth of his Son. > > Son was born on 4 Nov 2005 when Ke antara was passing through. > > Ke is SD to Me ,LoD for 5th. > > Daughter was born on 15 May 2007 when second sector of Ve antara > was running. > > Ve is LoE for 5th. > > There is no delay by Sa for the matter of 5th so the event took > place in first sector. > > Let us examine his event of building his own house in 2002. > > The dasa and antara running was Sa- Ju. > > Ju is LoC for 4th, LoE for 12th and LoD for 11th. > > Ju is strong in all these houses in WS.. > > But the point in 12th should have been more than that of 11th > instead it is less. > > Let me examine the event which took place on 17 Oct 2007 during > second sector of Ve antara of Me main. > > Ve is strong in all houses in WS. > > Ve is LoD for 1st and 6th. > > As per KAS theory LoD and LoE always give good results. > > Death is considered as a good event but hospitalisation and > sickness may not be considered a good event. > > For the matter of 1st (SELF) house the significators are Su and > Ju. > > The FK is Ju who is in 6th house of disease and this 6th is LoE > for 1st. > > LoE is Sa. Ve antara is NSD to Sa. > > Me is NK and Sa is FK for 4th house of chest. > > This karak occupy 12th house of hospital and aspected by the FK > of self from the house of disease. > > The karak for 6th is strongly posited in karaksthann of 4th. > > Su is strongly afflicted by Ma, Sa and Ra so the chest pain. > > I want to ask that for the timing of Ve antara for the matter of > 1st, 6th and 12th the points in WS should have been less than 12 > points. > > Otherwise we may assume that good events will be given by Ve or > for whom it is SD being LoD and LoE. > > Hope you understand my query. > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > Sudhir <taurus.sudhir@> wrote: > > Thanks Sandy, Its OK now > > > > Is MD, .....Maryland ? > > > > Regards > > Sudhir > > > > > > On 11/18/07, Sandy Crowther <sandycrowther@> > wrote: Dear Ramesh, Prasanna, and Sudhir, > > Popped in for a moment tonight and saw the confusion going > on...Here's the chart you are referencing. Please note the correct > data input for the KAS Worksheet. Eastern Daylight Time was in > effect, making it Eastern Standard Time on the Worksheet, with 1 hour > DST in effect. > > Hope this helps clear the confusion. > > Warm regards, > > Sandy > > > > NAME: PLACE: Annapolis > MD BIRTHDATE: 22-Jun-1943 Time Zone: EST > +05:00 TIME: 12:3 DST: Yes Latitude: > 38 N 58 KAS AYANAMSA: 22:10:18 Longitude: 76 > W > 29 > > Rasi- NATAL CHART 4 Navamsa - SPOUSE > D9 8 > 33 9 30 10 32 11 26 5 29 6 27 7 > 26 8 30 Ma Me Sa Su Ma > Me 7 24 12 25 4 > 27 9 26 Mo Bitmap > D Ju Ve Ra Ve Ra A > B Natal Divisional 6 32 1 > 23 3 33 Chart 10 23 Ke E > C Asc Ju Sa Ke > > 5 33 4 26 3 > 27 2 26 2 29 1 22 12 34 11 > 31 Su Mo > Asc > > ASHTARKAVARGA POWER DIVISIONAL CHART > DETAILS TRANSIT CHART > (SOUTH) NATAL Bitmap SU MO MA ME JU > VE SA BINDUS 5 3 > 4 7 3 4 4 TRANSIT DATE IS: 17-Nov- > 07 > > NATAL CHART DATA NATAL DASA > SUMMARY > > Planet Degrees Nakshatra Lord Navamsa Mahadasa Start > To > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > [Message clipped] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Save all your chat conversations. 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Guest guest Posted November 18, 2007 Report Share Posted November 18, 2007 Dear Ash, Many thanxs! Regards AnupAsh <kas wrote: Dear Prasanna and List members, I just came to the site and taking a short break and I read a few mails so I am just penning some thoughts that I read in some emails all bundled into this email. 7th house is that for accident. 7th is opposite party from 1st who is self. We do not use Argala and things like that in KAS. In KAS all such things are already considered indirectly, but for that you must keep a clean slate and not mix systems. KAS has a particular way and an approach to solve charts. Now 6th house as per KAS is like a black hole and the lord of 6th house is malefic. 6th house is also that of stomach and that’s the root of all illness and disease. 6th house is that of enmity and 7th house is that of accident. As per VA, 7th and 2nd house are called Marak Sthan and as per KAS we are giving this with proper reasoning that 7th house is that of Accident (NOT DEATH) and House A is 2nd house so that is the KARAK sthan for 7th house. What Krushnaji has given in lessons, if read with concentration will solve so many of the riddles of VA and with proper and concrete reasoning using the theory of KAS. Now Prasanna, think over it logically. 7th house is that of dincharya or day to day activity. Its 10th from 10th house which is that of Karma and authority. Now if there are low points in 7th house then that might affect the dincharya and so if there is an major accident then 7th house will get affected and person might have to change his or her day to day routine. Now take case of Heart Attack. Once a person gets a heart attack (Accident and 7th house is here) then his or her lifestyle has to be changed if one wants to prolong life. 2nd house is the Karak for 7th house and that controls the quality of result of 7th house. So in VA this might have been called MARAK meaning “Killer” in the literal sense, however as per KAS, death is from 8th house and accident can be seen from 7th house. Now if MD is related to 2nd and 3rd and AD is powerful for 8th and less for 7th and even less for 6th house then the person might die as a result of accident during that particular MD and Antra and since 6th house power is less then the person might be able to recover from the accident. 6th house is upachaya sthan for 1st house. 1st house and that of SELF is KARAK for 6th house. So 1st house is important for 6th house and for 1st house 6th is E and for 6th house 1st house is A. House C is 10th house. 6th house, if its weak i.e if points are weak in the WS the then native might face problems regarding 6th house matters and one of the things represented by 6th house is health. Now in some MD a person might face more problems w.r.t job and in other MD the native might face more problems related to health. However, now 3rd and 11th lords are D and E for 6th house so in their antra, the person might have good results of 6th house so u can say that if a person is sick he might get a good boost to recover or maybe his ailment might be diagnosed properly in antra of such lord and proper corrective action might be prescribed or maybe the native might come across a new drug that might cause better recovery or things of such sort. So here as per KAS, we are teaching you to think more logically and I am sure that once u know the root reason or think logically you will have better confidence in your predictions. Even, diagnosis of ailments, for that one must have good medical knowledge to understand that say if Venus is badly spoilt then that over time might lead to severe problems with liver or diabetes or certain laws of VA that Sa with 6th lord in 3rd house might make one prone to asthama or breathing related problems and things like that. So for that u must go into detail and study each planet from all angles and should have proper and sound understanding of what might cause a particular illness. If a person is facing more problems with stomach then 6th house, 1st house, sun etc play a role and exactly how is what one can understand. The medical portion of KAS is yet to be taught by Krushnaji and maybe he want to teach other lessons first before we go into the depths of the application of KAS in fields like Prashna, Medical Astrology, the micro astrology portion, Vastu portion, Mundane and event o Nadi level. For that we must first get the portion taught and the technique well engrained in our minds so that when you go into the application, you will venture into it with a good and strong foundation and with a mindset that is logical and based on concrete footing. Now Prasanna raised a question about having a permanent scar. Now is that an accident? Say how is that different from a person loosing his hand or leg in a accident? How would u judge what is accident? So here do u go by whats in the good books or u start to use your logic and reasoning and go to the very basis that 7th house deals with Dincharya. 1st is SELF and 7th is Opposite of that. So something that can affect a dincharya might be “termed” as an accident. So a permenant scar, say on a hand, that heals, v/s a scar or an infection that might get infected by gangarine and have to be operated on and removed? So would that be an accident? So here its very important that one must think logically and go back to the basics to understand what it means. So why is 7th and 2nd house called maraks by our seers? What were they thinking when they might have said that? Did they mean that u study DEATH from 7th and 2nd house ? then what is the use of 8th house for death and 3rd as the karak? Now, study this from the view point of KAS and then u will get some answers, now I don’t say that u might get all the answers though I personally believe you can get it in due course of time and as the understanding increase in time, but in KAS we are dealing with things on a concrete footing with proper reasoning again from the view point of KAS. There might be many ways and systems dealing each in their own way to decipher an event or approach it, and KAS has its own way and approach and also the students who are learning KAS will have a logical mind and an approach as this system is based on scientific calculations. Now you talked of Kalpurush chart and in KAS we consider them first and we called them Natural KARAK’s and the status of that is given a lot of importance so such things are also considered in the basic fabric of KAS in its approach. Yes, what Prasanna mentioned is correct about the classification of the event i.e is it a day to day event or is it a big major one time life event or events that don’t happen too often. For example death is a one time and most important event of life or when say one buys a house or a car, now these might be for most of the genral Janta some big events that do not happen too often in life, v/s timing when one will eat their food or when some guest will arrive at your home. So there is a definite classification and categorization of such events and one must be mindful of that as well. Now take an example of a Job, then for that Natal chart is important and one can study the relevant house and come to a prediction based on the WS and the KAS technique, but if one person has given an interview and then coming in few days and asking, I have given such and such an interview now will the result be favorable, then to answer such question you might have to study the Natal chart and take help of Prashna. Yes, you can also get idea from the Natal chart by studying the daily points and that will give a reflection as well. Ok, these were my thoughts on some of the emails that I have penned down. It might be a repetition of things that I have already said in my various mails over time and some related to some questions. I am out of time….. still so much more to write…… Take care Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of prasanna_1978Sunday November 18, 2007 11:20 AMTo: Subject: Re: Chart Analysis Dear Anup,7th house is aragla for 6th house –for money point of view it is dhana aragla (so it is money for satru)-so this is reason may be Mr. Krishna ji mentioned theft from 7th house.Same is applicable for disease, disease point of view it is permanent scar –may be accident(second house refer permanent disease),that's Mr.Krishna Ji mentioned accident. Some time having good points in 6th house is curing how? it is based on what part of body is affected based on kalapursha of the house,it is 11th or 5th from parts of body 6th house will give good result.But my experience 6th house with more points giving diseases (I checked only limited charts),for accident I did not try with KAS.I hope my limited knowledge I explained. RegardsPrasanna.G , "Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote:>> Dear Parsanna,> > Sorry to interfere but want to add few words,i read in archives.> > If for 7th house a planet is with less points,it can give accident.> If this planet is with good points for 6th so the native will be cured.> And in 8th house if this is weak, so no fear for giving any bad result.> > Regards> Anup> > > > > > > > > > > prasanna_1978 <prasanna_1978 wrote:> Dear Ramesh > > I try to explain in KAS way please forgive me if any wrong in my > attempt I m not expert in KAS system.as mentioned by Sandy next day > he discharged from hospital and due to stress he got disease, this > only passing clouds disease may be one day or two days it will be > cured.> > Small analogy- 6th house is satru stana as per theory, D and E lord > give good thing, to whom? To the house right that? means satru - bad > for native–so 6th house highest point will give disease if same > planet highest point in 8th house it will give chronic disease > > For day to day activities (small activities) check PDF instead of AD.> PDF Venus-Mars running at the time of incident Venus is highest score > of 6th house and less score in 8thhouse so it is not chronic only > some problem in the health-Refer Mr.ASH mail to Sameer (15860).> Venus –Mars –highest point of 1st house,3rd house (3rd house chest –> non cardiac problem not 4th house -heart)-Refer Paladeepika thats > why I mentioned Gemini rules chest not heart . > > I understood you question kindly check Mr. Ash mail reply to Mr. > Sameer (15860) I hope you understand clear. > > Regards> > Prasanna.G> > Regards> > Prasanna.G> > , ramesh mishra > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> >> > Dear Sudhir, Sandy, Prasanna and all,> > No , it is still something wrong somewhere.> > Whether you take AST +4 with no DST or EST +5 with Yes DST, the > asc will be 25 Le 17. I am getting KAS ayanamsa as 22:35:46 and not > as 22:10:18.> > This difference in ayanamsa may change the planets longitudes > but it does not reflect here. Why ?> > For the verification of birth time I re-checked the date of > marriage with antara lord.> > The native married in Me antara (third sector ) of Me main.> > Me is in house E with 4 bindus. Me is one of the significator for > 7th house.> > Me may give the event for 7th house matter.> > Now come to the point of the birth of his Son.> > Son was born on 4 Nov 2005 when Ke antara was passing through.> > Ke is SD to Me ,LoD for 5th.> > Daughter was born on 15 May 2007 when second sector of Ve antara > was running.> > Ve is LoE for 5th.> > There is no delay by Sa for the matter of 5th so the event took > place in first sector.> > Let us examine his event of building his own house in 2002.> > The dasa and antara running was Sa- Ju.> > Ju is LoC for 4th, LoE for 12th and LoD for 11th.> > Ju is strong in all these houses in WS..> > But the point in 12th should have been more than that of 11th > instead it is less.> > Let me examine the event which took place on 17 Oct 2007 during > second sector of Ve antara of Me main.> > Ve is strong in all houses in WS.> > Ve is LoD for 1st and 6th.> > As per KAS theory LoD and LoE always give good results.> > Death is considered as a good event but hospitalisation and > sickness may not be considered a good event.> > For the matter of 1st (SELF) house the significators are Su and > Ju.> > The FK is Ju who is in 6th house of disease and this 6th is LoE > for 1st.> > LoE is Sa. Ve antara is NSD to Sa.> > Me is NK and Sa is FK for 4th house of chest.> > This karak occupy 12th house of hospital and aspected by the FK > of self from the house of disease.> > The karak for 6th is strongly posited in karaksthann of 4th.> > Su is strongly afflicted by Ma, Sa and Ra so the chest pain.> > I want to ask that for the timing of Ve antara for the matter of > 1st, 6th and 12th the points in WS should have been less than 12 > points.> > Otherwise we may assume that good events will be given by Ve or > for whom it is SD being LoD and LoE.> > Hope you understand my query.> > Thanks and regards.> > Ramesh Mishra > > > > Sudhir <taurus.sudhir@> wrote:> > Thanks Sandy, Its OK now> > > > Is MD, .....Maryland ?> > > > Regards> > Sudhir> > > > > > On 11/18/07, Sandy Crowther <sandycrowther@> > wrote: Dear Ramesh, Prasanna, and Sudhir,> > Popped in for a moment tonight and saw the confusion going > on...Here's the chart you are referencing. Please note the correct > data input for the KAS Worksheet. Eastern Daylight Time was in > effect, making it Eastern Standard Time on the Worksheet, with 1 hour > DST in effect. > > Hope this helps clear the confusion. > > Warm regards,> > Sandy> > > > NAME: PLACE: Annapolis > MD BIRTHDATE: 22-Jun-1943 Time Zone: EST > +05:00 TIME: 12:3 DST: Yes Latitude: > 38 N 58 KAS AYANAMSA: 22:10:18 Longitude: 76 > W > 29> > Rasi- NATAL CHART 4 Navamsa - SPOUSE > D9 8 > 33 9 30 10 32 11 26 5 29 6 27 7 > 26 8 30 Ma Me Sa Su Ma > Me 7 24 12 25 4 > 27 9 26 Mo Bitmap > D Ju Ve Ra Ve Ra A > B Natal Divisional 6 32 1 > 23 3 33 Chart 10 23 Ke E > C Asc Ju Sa Ke > > 5 33 4 26 3 > 27 2 26 2 29 1 22 12 34 11 > 31 Su Mo > Asc> > ASHTARKAVARGA POWER DIVISIONAL CHART > DETAILS TRANSIT CHART > (SOUTH) NATAL Bitmap SU MO MA ME JU > VE SA BINDUS 5 3 > 4 7 3 4 4 TRANSIT DATE IS: 17-Nov-> 07> > NATAL CHART DATA NATAL DASA > SUMMARY> > Planet Degrees Nakshatra Lord Navamsa Mahadasa Start > To > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...> > > > [Message clipped] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Save all your chat conversations. 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Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Dear Prasanna, 6th house is Karak sthan for 11th house. It controls the status of 11th house. For example, if a person has a high profile job then that would translate to better income. If a person is doing some low paying job then that will reflect in 11th house, he might get paid low wages. Mercury is Natural Karak for 11th house. So 6th house here will control the status of 11th .. So that how 6th house is related to 11th house. For 6th house, 11th house becomes House E. So in antra of 11th house lord, 6th house will trigger and same way for 3rd house who is LoD for 6th. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of prasanna_1978 Sunday November 18, 2007 11:20 AM Subject: Re: Chart Analysis Dear Anup, 7th house is aragla for 6th house –for money point of view it is dhana aragla (so it is money for satru)-so this is reason may be Mr. Krishna ji mentioned theft from 7th house. Same is applicable for disease, disease point of view it is permanent scar –may be accident(second house refer permanent disease),that's Mr.Krishna Ji mentioned accident. Some time having good points in 6th house is curing how? it is based on what part of body is affected based on kalapursha of the house,it is 11th or 5th from parts of body 6th house will give good result. But my experience 6th house with more points giving diseases (I checked only limited charts),for accident I did not try with KAS. I hope my limited knowledge I explained. Regards Prasanna.G , " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Parsanna, > > Sorry to interfere but want to add few words,i read in archives. > > If for 7th house a planet is with less points,it can give accident. > If this planet is with good points for 6th so the native will be cured. > And in 8th house if this is weak, so no fear for giving any bad result. > > Regards > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > prasanna_1978 <prasanna_1978 wrote: > Dear Ramesh > > I try to explain in KAS way please forgive me if any wrong in my > attempt I m not expert in KAS system.as mentioned by Sandy next day > he discharged from hospital and due to stress he got disease, this > only passing clouds disease may be one day or two days it will be > cured. > > Small analogy- 6th house is satru stana as per theory, D and E lord > give good thing, to whom? To the house right that? means satru - bad > for native–so 6th house highest point will give disease if same > planet highest point in 8th house it will give chronic disease > > For day to day activities (small activities) check PDF instead of AD. > PDF Venus-Mars running at the time of incident Venus is highest score > of 6th house and less score in 8thhouse so it is not chronic only > some problem in the health-Refer Mr.ASH mail to Sameer (15860). > Venus –Mars –highest point of 1st house,3rd house (3rd house chest – > non cardiac problem not 4th house -heart)-Refer Paladeepika thats > why I mentioned Gemini rules chest not heart . > > I understood you question kindly check Mr. Ash mail reply to Mr. > Sameer (15860) I hope you understand clear. > > Regards > > Prasanna.G > > Regards > > Prasanna.G > > , ramesh mishra > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sudhir, Sandy, Prasanna and all, > > No , it is still something wrong somewhere. > > Whether you take AST +4 with no DST or EST +5 with Yes DST, the > asc will be 25 Le 17. I am getting KAS ayanamsa as 22:35:46 and not > as 22:10:18. > > This difference in ayanamsa may change the planets longitudes > but it does not reflect here. Why ? > > For the verification of birth time I re-checked the date of > marriage with antara lord. > > The native married in Me antara (third sector ) of Me main. > > Me is in house E with 4 bindus. Me is one of the significator for > 7th house. > > Me may give the event for 7th house matter. > > Now come to the point of the birth of his Son. > > Son was born on 4 Nov 2005 when Ke antara was passing through. > > Ke is SD to Me ,LoD for 5th. > > Daughter was born on 15 May 2007 when second sector of Ve antara > was running. > > Ve is LoE for 5th. > > There is no delay by Sa for the matter of 5th so the event took > place in first sector. > > Let us examine his event of building his own house in 2002. > > The dasa and antara running was Sa- Ju. > > Ju is LoC for 4th, LoE for 12th and LoD for 11th. > > Ju is strong in all these houses in WS.. > > But the point in 12th should have been more than that of 11th > instead it is less. > > Let me examine the event which took place on 17 Oct 2007 during > second sector of Ve antara of Me main. > > Ve is strong in all houses in WS. > > Ve is LoD for 1st and 6th. > > As per KAS theory LoD and LoE always give good results. > > Death is considered as a good event but hospitalisation and > sickness may not be considered a good event. > > For the matter of 1st (SELF) house the significators are Su and > Ju. > > The FK is Ju who is in 6th house of disease and this 6th is LoE > for 1st. > > LoE is Sa. Ve antara is NSD to Sa. > > Me is NK and Sa is FK for 4th house of chest. > > This karak occupy 12th house of hospital and aspected by the FK > of self from the house of disease. > > The karak for 6th is strongly posited in karaksthann of 4th. > > Su is strongly afflicted by Ma, Sa and Ra so the chest pain. > > I want to ask that for the timing of Ve antara for the matter of > 1st, 6th and 12th the points in WS should have been less than 12 > points. > > Otherwise we may assume that good events will be given by Ve or > for whom it is SD being LoD and LoE. > > Hope you understand my query. > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > Sudhir <taurus.sudhir@> wrote: > > Thanks Sandy, Its OK now > > > > Is MD, .....Maryland ? > > > > Regards > > Sudhir > > > > > > On 11/18/07, Sandy Crowther <sandycrowther@> > wrote: Dear Ramesh, Prasanna, and Sudhir, > > Popped in for a moment tonight and saw the confusion going > on...Here's the chart you are referencing. Please note the correct > data input for the KAS Worksheet. Eastern Daylight Time was in > effect, making it Eastern Standard Time on the Worksheet, with 1 hour > DST in effect. > > Hope this helps clear the confusion. > > Warm regards, > > Sandy > > > > NAME: PLACE: Annapolis > MD BIRTHDATE: 22-Jun-1943 Time Zone: EST > +05:00 TIME: 12:3 DST: Yes Latitude: > 38 N 58 KAS AYANAMSA: 22:10:18 Longitude: 76 > W > 29 > > Rasi- NATAL CHART 4 Navamsa - SPOUSE > D9 8 > 33 9 30 10 32 11 26 5 29 6 27 7 > 26 8 30 Ma Me Sa Su Ma > Me 7 24 12 25 4 > 27 9 26 Mo Bitmap > D Ju Ve Ra Ve Ra A > B Natal Divisional 6 32 1 > 23 3 33 Chart 10 23 Ke E > C Asc Ju Sa Ke > > 5 33 4 26 3 > 27 2 26 2 29 1 22 12 34 11 > 31 Su Mo > Asc > > ASHTARKAVARGA POWER DIVISIONAL CHART > DETAILS TRANSIT CHART > (SOUTH) NATAL Bitmap SU MO MA ME JU > VE SA BINDUS 5 3 > 4 7 3 4 4 TRANSIT DATE IS: 17-Nov- > 07 > > NATAL CHART DATA NATAL DASA > SUMMARY > > Planet Degrees Nakshatra Lord Navamsa Mahadasa Start > To > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > [Message clipped] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Save all your chat conversations. 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Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 || OM NAMO NARAYANA|| Dear Ash, Thanks for your mail and I appreciate your more knowledge in the system,im sorry and feeling im killing your time for answering my questions. Find below my comments, this only for educational point of view not augmenting base -for getting more information and knowledge in KAS –Please take your own time and reply t say you reply fast when you find time you can answer back- once again sorry for killing your busy schedule. ASH :- 7th house is that for accident. 7th is opposite party from 1st who is self. We do not use Argala and things like that in KAS. In KAS all such things are already considered indirectly, but for that you must keep a clean slate and not mix systems. KAS has a particular way and an approach to solve charts. As per VA, 7th and 2nd house are called Marak Sthan and as per KAS we are giving this with proper reasoning that 7th house is that of Accident (NOT DEATH) and House A is 2nd house so that is the KARAK sthan for 7th house. PRASANNA:-AS PER VA 2 AND 7TH HOUSES ONLY FOR KILLER HOUSE WE USE FOR ONLY TIMING OF EVENTS IT IS NOT RELATING TO LENGTH OF LIFE – LONGEVITY ,IT IS CONTROLLED BY 8TH HOUSE AND 3RD HOUSE ONLY,NOT 2ND AND 7TH HOUSE,EVEN WHEN WE CALCULATE LENGTH OF LIFE WE ARE NOT CONSIDERING 2 AND 7TH HOUSE. 3RD HOUSE IS 8TH FROM 8TH SO BHAVAT BHAVAM CONCEPT –IT MEANS IT MANIFESTATION OF HOUSE SO 12TH FROM THAT SAGES ARE USING FOR TIMING OF EVENTS. AS PER KAS C HOUSE IS QUALITY MY CONCEPT B HOUSE IS QUANTITY SO 8TH HOUSE QUANTITY OF LIFE ONE MAIL I READ FROM MR.KRSHNA JI 8TH HOUSE POINT ALL GOOD IT WILL GIVE BALARSITA OR LONGEVITY IS VERY LOW,I WORKED WITH BALARISTA CHART IT IS 100% WORKING BUT IF NOT FOLLOW VA CONCEPT LIKE OVERRIDERS IT IS NOT WORKING (SAY EXAMPLE EVEN THOUGH 8TH HOUSE POINTS ALL GOOD JUPITER IN LAGNA IT IS NOT KILLING -THIS ONLY MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE ),WHY I STATED WITHOUT VA CONCEPTS IF WE USE KAS MAY BE WE ARE MISSING SOME WHERE. I KNOW WE DONT HAVE LESSON ON LONGIVITY MAY BE AFTER HE TEACH I MAY UNDERSTAND FULLY. Ash:-Now Prasanna, think over it logically. 7th house is that of dincharya or day to day activity. Its 10th from 10th house which is that of Karma and authority. Now if there are low points in 7th house then that might affect the dincharya and so if there is an major accident then 7th house will get affected and person might have to change his or her day to day routine. Now take case of Heart Attack. Once a person gets a heart attack (Accident and 7th house is here) then his or her lifestyle has to be changed if one wants to prolong life. PRASANNA:-I AGREE WITH YOUR DINACHARYA CONCEPT IT VERY GOOD I DID NOT THINK IN THIS WAY, BUT MY QUESTION IS DINACHRAYA IS AFFECTED IT GIVE – HEALTH RELATED POINT OF VIEW -BIORTHTHUM OF HEALTH WILL AFFECT –YOU MEANS TO SAY THAT IT IS AN ACCIDENT -MAY BE DINACHARYA WILL AFFECT ISSUE-MAY BE DUE TO FASTING OR NON AVAILABLITIY OF TIME IT COULD HAPPEN. REMAINING POINTS WHICH YOU STATED 100% AGREE WITH YOU. I m not mixing up the other,but one time Mr.Kurshna Ji stated all VA principal will work with the system including yogas,I tried with many charts using Arudha and yogas it is perfectly working with timing (I'm leaving to India for vacation after I come from India I will post my research study regarding arudha with KAS)-This is first system in my experience working perfectly in timings of event very accurately. Thanks and Regards Prasanna.G , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Prasanna and List members, > > > > I just came to the site and taking a short break and I read a few mails so I > am just penning some thoughts that I read in some emails all bundled into > this email. > > > > > > 7th house is that for accident. 7th is opposite party from 1st who is self. > We do not use Argala and things like that in KAS. In KAS all such things > are already considered indirectly, but for that you must keep a clean slate > and not mix systems. > > KAS has a particular way and an approach to solve charts. > > > > Now 6th house as per KAS is like a black hole and the lord of 6th house is > malefic. 6th house is also that of stomach and that's the root of all > illness and disease. 6th house is that of enmity and 7th house is that of > accident. > > As per VA, 7th and 2nd house are called Marak Sthan and as per KAS we are > giving this with proper reasoning that 7th house is that of Accident (NOT > DEATH) and House A is 2nd house so that is the KARAK sthan for 7th house. > > > > What Krushnaji has given in lessons, if read with concentration will solve > so many of the riddles of VA and with proper and concrete reasoning using > the theory of KAS. > > > > Now Prasanna, think over it logically. 7th house is that of dincharya or > day to day activity. Its 10th from 10th house which is that of Karma and > authority. Now if there are low points in 7th house then that might affect > the dincharya and so if there is an major accident then 7th house will get > affected and person might have to change his or her day to day routine. Now > take case of Heart Attack. Once a person gets a heart attack (Accident and > 7th house is here) then his or her lifestyle has to be changed if one wants > to prolong life. > > > > 2nd house is the Karak for 7th house and that controls the quality of result > of 7th house. So in VA this might have been called MARAK meaning " Killer " > in the literal sense, however as per KAS, death is from 8th house and > accident can be seen from 7th house. > > > > Now if MD is related to 2nd and 3rd and AD is powerful for 8th and less for > 7th and even less for 6th house then the person might die as a result of > accident during that particular MD and Antra and since 6th house power is > less then the person might be able to recover from the accident. > > > > 6th house is upachaya sthan for 1st house. 1st house and that of SELF is > KARAK for 6th house. So 1st house is important for 6th house and for 1st > house 6th is E and for 6th house 1st house is A. House C is 10th house. > > > > 6th house, if its weak i.e if points are weak in the WS the then native > might face problems regarding 6th house matters and one of the things > represented by 6th house is health. Now in some MD a person might face more > problems w.r.t job and in other MD the native might face more problems > related to health. > > > > However, now 3rd and 11th lords are D and E for 6th house so in their antra, > the person might have good results of 6th house so u can say that if a > person is sick he might get a good boost to recover or maybe his ailment > might be diagnosed properly in antra of such lord and proper corrective > action might be prescribed or maybe the native might come across a new drug > that might cause better recovery or things of such sort. > > > > So here as per KAS, we are teaching you to think more logically and I am > sure that once u know the root reason or think logically you will have > better confidence in your predictions. > > > > Even, diagnosis of ailments, for that one must have good medical knowledge > to understand that say if Venus is badly spoilt then that over time might > lead to severe problems with liver or diabetes or certain laws of VA that Sa > with 6th lord in 3rd house might make one prone to asthama or breathing > related problems and things like that. So for that u must go into detail > and study each planet from all angles and should have proper and sound > understanding of what might cause a particular illness. If a person is > facing more problems with stomach then 6th house, 1st house, sun etc play a > role and exactly how is what one can understand. > > > > The medical portion of KAS is yet to be taught by Krushnaji and maybe he > want to teach other lessons first before we go into the depths of the > application of KAS in fields like Prashna, Medical Astrology, the micro > astrology portion, Vastu portion, Mundane and event o Nadi level. For that > we must first get the portion taught and the technique well engrained in our > minds so that when you go into the application, you will venture into it > with a good and strong foundation and with a mindset that is logical and > based on concrete footing. > > > > Now Prasanna raised a question about having a permanent scar. Now is that > an accident? Say how is that different from a person loosing his hand or > leg in a accident? How would u judge what is accident? So here do u go by > whats in the good books or u start to use your logic and reasoning and go to > the very basis that 7th house deals with Dincharya. 1st is SELF and 7th is > Opposite of that. So something that can affect a dincharya might be > " termed " as an accident. > > > > So a permenant scar, say on a hand, that heals, v/s a scar or an infection > that might get infected by gangarine and have to be operated on and removed? > So would that be an accident? > > > > So here its very important that one must think logically and go back to the > basics to understand what it means. > > > > So why is 7th and 2nd house called maraks by our seers? What were they > thinking when they might have said that? Did they mean that u study DEATH > from 7th and 2nd house ? then what is the use of 8th house for death and > 3rd as the karak? > > > > Now, study this from the view point of KAS and then u will get some answers, > now I don't say that u might get all the answers though I personally believe > you can get it in due course of time and as the understanding increase in > time, but in KAS we are dealing with things on a concrete footing with > proper reasoning again from the view point of KAS. > > > > There might be many ways and systems dealing each in their own way to > decipher an event or approach it, and KAS has its own way and approach and > also the students who are learning KAS will have a logical mind and an > approach as this system is based on scientific calculations. > > > > Now you talked of Kalpurush chart and in KAS we consider them first and we > called them Natural KARAK's and the status of that is given a lot of > importance so such things are also considered in the basic fabric of KAS in > its approach. > > > > > > Yes, what Prasanna mentioned is correct about the classification of the > event i.e is it a day to day event or is it a big major one time life event > or events that don't happen too often. > > > > For example death is a one time and most important event of life or when say > one buys a house or a car, now these might be for most of the genral Janta > some big events that do not happen too often in life, v/s timing when one > will eat their food or when some guest will arrive at your home. > > > > So there is a definite classification and categorization of such events and > one must be mindful of that as well. > > > > Now take an example of a Job, then for that Natal chart is important and one > can study the relevant house and come to a prediction based on the WS and > the KAS technique, but if one person has given an interview and then coming > in few days and asking, I have given such and such an interview now will the > result be favorable, then to answer such question you might have to study > the Natal chart and take help of Prashna. Yes, you can also get idea from > the Natal chart by studying the daily points and that will give a reflection > as well. > > > > Ok, these were my thoughts on some of the emails that I have penned down. > It might be a repetition of things that I have already said in my various > mails over time and some related to some questions. > > > > I am out of time... still so much more to write.. > > > > Take care > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of prasanna_1978 > Sunday November 18, 2007 11:20 AM > > Re: Chart Analysis > > > > Dear Anup, > > 7th house is aragla for 6th house -for money point of view it is > dhana aragla (so it is money for satru)-so this is reason may be Mr. > Krishna ji mentioned theft from 7th house. > Same is applicable for disease, disease point of view it is permanent > scar -may be accident(second house refer permanent disease),that's > Mr.Krishna Ji mentioned accident. > Some time having good points in 6th house is curing how? it is based > on what part of body is affected based on kalapursha of the house,it > is 11th or 5th from parts of body 6th house will give good result. > But my experience 6th house with more points giving diseases (I > checked only limited charts),for accident I did not try with KAS. > > I hope my limited knowledge I explained. > > Regards > Prasanna.G > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " Anup. > M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Parsanna, > > > > Sorry to interfere but want to add few words,i read in archives. > > > > If for 7th house a planet is with less points,it can give > accident. > > If this planet is with good points for 6th so the native will be > cured. > > And in 8th house if this is weak, so no fear for giving any bad > result. > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prasanna_1978 <prasanna_1978@> wrote: > > Dear Ramesh > > > > I try to explain in KAS way please forgive me if any wrong in my > > attempt I m not expert in KAS system.as mentioned by Sandy next day > > he discharged from hospital and due to stress he got disease, this > > only passing clouds disease may be one day or two days it will be > > cured. > > > > Small analogy- 6th house is satru stana as per theory, D and E lord > > give good thing, to whom? To the house right that? means satru - > bad > > for native-so 6th house highest point will give disease if same > > planet highest point in 8th house it will give chronic disease > > > > For day to day activities (small activities) check PDF instead of > AD. > > PDF Venus-Mars running at the time of incident Venus is highest > score > > of 6th house and less score in 8thhouse so it is not chronic only > > some problem in the health-Refer Mr.ASH mail to Sameer (15860). > > Venus -Mars -highest point of 1st house,3rd house (3rd house chest - > > non cardiac problem not 4th house -heart)-Refer Paladeepika thats > > why I mentioned Gemini rules chest not heart . > > > > I understood you question kindly check Mr. Ash mail reply to Mr. > > Sameer (15860) I hope you understand clear. > > > > Regards > > > > Prasanna.G > > > > Regards > > > > Prasanna.G > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > ramesh mishra > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sudhir, Sandy, Prasanna and all, > > > No , it is still something wrong somewhere. > > > Whether you take AST +4 with no DST or EST +5 with Yes DST, the > > asc will be 25 Le 17. I am getting KAS ayanamsa as 22:35:46 and not > > as 22:10:18. > > > This difference in ayanamsa may change the planets longitudes > > but it does not reflect here. Why ? > > > For the verification of birth time I re-checked the date of > > marriage with antara lord. > > > The native married in Me antara (third sector ) of Me main. > > > Me is in house E with 4 bindus. Me is one of the significator for > > 7th house. > > > Me may give the event for 7th house matter. > > > Now come to the point of the birth of his Son. > > > Son was born on 4 Nov 2005 when Ke antara was passing through. > > > Ke is SD to Me ,LoD for 5th. > > > Daughter was born on 15 May 2007 when second sector of Ve antara > > was running. > > > Ve is LoE for 5th. > > > There is no delay by Sa for the matter of 5th so the event took > > place in first sector. > > > Let us examine his event of building his own house in 2002. > > > The dasa and antara running was Sa- Ju. > > > Ju is LoC for 4th, LoE for 12th and LoD for 11th. > > > Ju is strong in all these houses in WS.. > > > But the point in 12th should have been more than that of 11th > > instead it is less. > > > Let me examine the event which took place on 17 Oct 2007 during > > second sector of Ve antara of Me main. > > > Ve is strong in all houses in WS. > > > Ve is LoD for 1st and 6th. > > > As per KAS theory LoD and LoE always give good results. > > > Death is considered as a good event but hospitalisation and > > sickness may not be considered a good event. > > > For the matter of 1st (SELF) house the significators are Su and > > Ju. > > > The FK is Ju who is in 6th house of disease and this 6th is LoE > > for 1st. > > > LoE is Sa. Ve antara is NSD to Sa. > > > Me is NK and Sa is FK for 4th house of chest. > > > This karak occupy 12th house of hospital and aspected by the FK > > of self from the house of disease. > > > The karak for 6th is strongly posited in karaksthann of 4th. > > > Su is strongly afflicted by Ma, Sa and Ra so the chest pain. > > > I want to ask that for the timing of Ve antara for the matter of > > 1st, 6th and 12th the points in WS should have been less than 12 > > points. > > > Otherwise we may assume that good events will be given by Ve or > > for whom it is SD being LoD and LoE. > > > Hope you understand my query. > > > Thanks and regards. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > Sudhir <taurus.sudhir@> wrote: > > > Thanks Sandy, Its OK now > > > > > > Is MD, .....Maryland ? > > > > > > Regards > > > Sudhir > > > > > > > > > On 11/18/07, Sandy Crowther <sandycrowther@> > > wrote: Dear Ramesh, Prasanna, and Sudhir, > > > Popped in for a moment tonight and saw the confusion going > > on...Here's the chart you are referencing. Please note the correct > > data input for the KAS Worksheet. Eastern Daylight Time was in > > effect, making it Eastern Standard Time on the Worksheet, with 1 > hour > > DST in effect. > > > Hope this helps clear the confusion. > > > Warm regards, > > > Sandy > > > > > > NAME: PLACE: Annapolis > > MD BIRTHDATE: 22-Jun-1943 Time Zone: EST > > +05:00 TIME: 12:3 DST: Yes Latitude: > > 38 N 58 KAS AYANAMSA: 22:10:18 Longitude: 76 > > W > > 29 > > > > Rasi- NATAL CHART 4 Navamsa - SPOUSE > > D9 8 > > 33 9 30 10 32 11 26 5 29 6 27 7 > > 26 8 30 Ma Me Sa Su Ma > > Me 7 24 12 25 4 > > 27 9 26 Mo Bitmap > > D Ju Ve Ra Ve Ra A > > B Natal Divisional 6 32 1 > > 23 3 33 Chart 10 23 Ke E > > C Asc Ju Sa Ke > > > 5 33 4 26 3 > > 27 2 26 2 29 1 22 12 34 11 > > 31 Su Mo > > Asc > > > > ASHTARKAVARGA POWER DIVISIONAL CHART > > DETAILS TRANSIT CHART > > (SOUTH) NATAL Bitmap SU MO MA ME JU > > VE SA BINDUS 5 3 > > 4 7 3 4 4 TRANSIT DATE IS: 17-Nov- > > 07 > > > > NATAL CHART DATA NATAL DASA > > SUMMARY > > > > Planet Degrees Nakshatra Lord Navamsa Mahadasa Start > > To > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > [Message clipped] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Save all your chat conversations. 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Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Respected Sir, Many thanks for your mail which has calmed me down and given me a hope that things might become normal.Just one thing i would like to clarify. If my time is 1330 hrs,lagna would be aq.moon will be in 6th house and jupiter in 7th.I believe that my moon is in 6th house because of constant insecurity and suspicious nature.Also iam a very investigative type of person ,likes to uncover secrets and i have from childhood an obsessive compulsive habit regarding my hair I have been mostly very religious during my young life ,upto the point of contemplating renunciation(with Brahma Kumaris) until I got married. The birth of my last two sons were elective C-sec with the consultation of an astrologer for auspicious time. according to my mum, my birth was delayed and i was choking when finally i was born ,she remembers 1330. If we take this time ,does the events match?and will it be very different judgement? Highest Regards mini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Dear Prasanna, Have a good vacation in India. We can pick up this thread once you get back. By that time, I should also get freed up from my current commitments and then I can focus with 100% concentration and reply to your questions. The dincharya concept it’s not mine, Krushnaji has taught me that. Whatsoever little in Jyotish I have learnt, it’s from Krushnaji only. Another basic thing is that as per KAS, planets aspecting House A, B or C do not give their result, and if they are powerful, then their SD’s will give. 12th from any House B is not conducive to the results of the House B. Now applying this basic concept to 8th and 3rd house, then any planet in 9th house and 2nd house will aspect 8th house and 3rd house and also 6th house so aspect 12th house who is House C so such planets on their own cannot give result for 8th house as B. Similarly, planets in 8th house, 1st house and 5th house aspect 2nd 7th and 11th so they cannot give result on their own, and if they are powerful then their SD’s may give or they might give only under the condition that they are powerful SD of another powerful planet and they might be deputed by that planet to give their result. Satish and I had a discussion along with others on why Malefics are good in upachaya sthan this is whats given in VA. But Why? So here if we look at it from the theory of KAS we can get concrete answer. I have highlighted the portion that I have made reference to other systems in my mail. Please see the highlighted text in my reply below. So enjoy your trip and we shall see you back after your vacations. Your questions are very interesting and I enjoy replying to them and also learning things from you as well. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of prasanna_1978 Monday November 19, 2007 7:10 AM Subject: Re: Chart Analysis || OM NAMO NARAYANA|| Dear Ash, Thanks for your mail and I appreciate your more knowledge in the system,im sorry and feeling im killing your time for answering my questions. Find below my comments, this only for educational point of view not augmenting base -for getting more information and knowledge in KAS –Please take your own time and reply t say you reply fast when you find time you can answer back- once again sorry for killing your busy schedule. ASH :- 7th house is that for accident. 7th is opposite party from 1st who is self. We do not use Argala and things like that in KAS. In KAS all such things are already considered indirectly, but for that you must keep a clean slate and not mix systems. KAS has a particular way and an approach to solve charts. As per VA, 7th and 2nd house are called Marak Sthan and as per KAS we are giving this with proper reasoning that 7th house is that of Accident (NOT DEATH) and House A is 2nd house so that is the KARAK sthan for 7th house. PRASANNA:-AS PER VA 2 AND 7TH HOUSES ONLY FOR KILLER HOUSE WE USE FOR ONLY TIMING OF EVENTS IT IS NOT RELATING TO LENGTH OF LIFE – LONGEVITY ,IT IS CONTROLLED BY 8TH HOUSE AND 3RD HOUSE ONLY,NOT 2ND AND 7TH HOUSE,EVEN WHEN WE CALCULATE LENGTH OF LIFE WE ARE NOT CONSIDERING 2 AND 7TH HOUSE. 3RD HOUSE IS 8TH FROM 8TH SO BHAVAT BHAVAM CONCEPT –IT MEANS IT MANIFESTATION OF HOUSE SO 12TH FROM THAT SAGES ARE USING FOR TIMING OF EVENTS. AS PER KAS C HOUSE IS QUALITY MY CONCEPT B HOUSE IS QUANTITY SO 8TH HOUSE QUANTITY OF LIFE ONE MAIL I READ FROM MR.KRSHNA JI 8TH HOUSE POINT ALL GOOD IT WILL GIVE BALARSITA OR LONGEVITY IS VERY LOW,I WORKED WITH BALARISTA CHART IT IS 100% WORKING BUT IF NOT FOLLOW VA CONCEPT LIKE OVERRIDERS IT IS NOT WORKING (SAY EXAMPLE EVEN THOUGH 8TH HOUSE POINTS ALL GOOD JUPITER IN LAGNA IT IS NOT KILLING -THIS ONLY MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE ),WHY I STATED WITHOUT VA CONCEPTS IF WE USE KAS MAY BE WE ARE MISSING SOME WHERE. I KNOW WE DONT HAVE LESSON ON LONGIVITY MAY BE AFTER HE TEACH I MAY UNDERSTAND FULLY. Ash:-Now Prasanna, think over it logically. 7th house is that of dincharya or day to day activity. Its 10th from 10th house which is that of Karma and authority. Now if there are low points in 7th house then that might affect the dincharya and so if there is an major accident then 7th house will get affected and person might have to change his or her day to day routine. Now take case of Heart Attack. Once a person gets a heart attack (Accident and 7th house is here) then his or her lifestyle has to be changed if one wants to prolong life. PRASANNA:-I AGREE WITH YOUR DINACHARYA CONCEPT IT VERY GOOD I DID NOT THINK IN THIS WAY, BUT MY QUESTION IS DINACHRAYA IS AFFECTED IT GIVE – HEALTH RELATED POINT OF VIEW -BIORTHTHUM OF HEALTH WILL AFFECT –YOU MEANS TO SAY THAT IT IS AN ACCIDENT -MAY BE DINACHARYA WILL AFFECT ISSUE-MAY BE DUE TO FASTING OR NON AVAILABLITIY OF TIME IT COULD HAPPEN. REMAINING POINTS WHICH YOU STATED 100% AGREE WITH YOU. I m not mixing up the other,but one time Mr.Kurshna Ji stated all VA principal will work with the system including yogas,I tried with many charts using Arudha and yogas it is perfectly working with timing (I'm leaving to India for vacation after I come from India I will post my research study regarding arudha with KAS)-This is first system in my experience working perfectly in timings of event very accurately. Thanks and Regards Prasanna.G , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Prasanna and List members, > > > > I just came to the site and taking a short break and I read a few mails so I > am just penning some thoughts that I read in some emails all bundled into > this email. > > > > > > 7th house is that for accident. 7th is opposite party from 1st who is self. > We do not use Argala and things like that in KAS. In KAS all such things > are already considered indirectly, but for that you must keep a clean slate > and not mix systems. > > KAS has a particular way and an approach to solve charts. > > > > Now 6th house as per KAS is like a black hole and the lord of 6th house is > malefic. 6th house is also that of stomach and that's the root of all > illness and disease. 6th house is that of enmity and 7th house is that of > accident. > > As per VA, 7th and 2nd house are called Marak Sthan and as per KAS we are > giving this with proper reasoning that 7th house is that of Accident (NOT > DEATH) and House A is 2nd house so that is the KARAK sthan for 7th house. > > > > What Krushnaji has given in lessons, if read with concentration will solve > so many of the riddles of VA and with proper and concrete reasoning using > the theory of KAS. > > > > Now Prasanna, think over it logically. 7th house is that of dincharya or > day to day activity. Its 10th from 10th house which is that of Karma and > authority. Now if there are low points in 7th house then that might affect > the dincharya and so if there is an major accident then 7th house will get > affected and person might have to change his or her day to day routine. Now > take case of Heart Attack. Once a person gets a heart attack (Accident and > 7th house is here) then his or her lifestyle has to be changed if one wants > to prolong life. > > > > 2nd house is the Karak for 7th house and that controls the quality of result > of 7th house. So in VA this might have been called MARAK meaning " Killer " > in the literal sense, however as per KAS, death is from 8th house and > accident can be seen from 7th house. > > > > Now if MD is related to 2nd and 3rd and AD is powerful for 8th and less for > 7th and even less for 6th house then the person might die as a result of > accident during that particular MD and Antra and since 6th house power is > less then the person might be able to recover from the accident. > > > > 6th house is upachaya sthan for 1st house. 1st house and that of SELF is > KARAK for 6th house. So 1st house is important for 6th house and for 1st > house 6th is E and for 6th house 1st house is A. House C is 10th house. > > > > 6th house, if its weak i.e if points are weak in the WS the then native > might face problems regarding 6th house matters and one of the things > represented by 6th house is health. Now in some MD a person might face more > problems w.r.t job and in other MD the native might face more problems > related to health. > > > > However, now 3rd and 11th lords are D and E for 6th house so in their antra, > the person might have good results of 6th house so u can say that if a > person is sick he might get a good boost to recover or maybe his ailment > might be diagnosed properly in antra of such lord and proper corrective > action might be prescribed or maybe the native might come across a new drug > that might cause better recovery or things of such sort. > > > > So here as per KAS, we are teaching you to think more logically and I am > sure that once u know the root reason or think logically you will have > better confidence in your predictions. > > > > Even, diagnosis of ailments, for that one must have good medical knowledge > to understand that say if Venus is badly spoilt then that over time might > lead to severe problems with liver or diabetes or certain laws of VA that Sa > with 6th lord in 3rd house might make one prone to asthama or breathing > related problems and things like that. So for that u must go into detail > and study each planet from all angles and should have proper and sound > understanding of what might cause a particular illness. If a person is > facing more problems with stomach then 6th house, 1st house, sun etc play a > role and exactly how is what one can understand. > > > > The medical portion of KAS is yet to be taught by Krushnaji and maybe he > want to teach other lessons first before we go into the depths of the > application of KAS in fields like Prashna, Medical Astrology, the micro > astrology portion, Vastu portion, Mundane and event o Nadi level. For that > we must first get the portion taught and the technique well engrained in our > minds so that when you go into the application, you will venture into it > with a good and strong foundation and with a mindset that is logical and > based on concrete footing. > > > > Now Prasanna raised a question about having a permanent scar. Now is that > an accident? Say how is that different from a person loosing his hand or > leg in a accident? How would u judge what is accident? So here do u go by > whats in the good books or u start to use your logic and reasoning and go to > the very basis that 7th house deals with Dincharya. 1st is SELF and 7th is > Opposite of that. So something that can affect a dincharya might be > " termed " as an accident. > > > > So a permenant scar, say on a hand, that heals, v/s a scar or an infection > that might get infected by gangarine and have to be operated on and removed? > So would that be an accident? > > > > So here its very important that one must think logically and go back to the > basics to understand what it means. > > > > So why is 7th and 2nd house called maraks by our seers? What were they > thinking when they might have said that? Did they mean that u study DEATH > from 7th and 2nd house ? then what is the use of 8th house for death and > 3rd as the karak? > > > > Now, study this from the view point of KAS and then u will get some answers, > now I don't say that u might get all the answers though I personally believe > you can get it in due course of time and as the understanding increase in > time, but in KAS we are dealing with things on a concrete footing with > proper reasoning again from the view point of KAS. > > > > There might be many ways and systems dealing each in their own way to > decipher an event or approach it, and KAS has its own way and approach and > also the students who are learning KAS will have a logical mind and an > approach as this system is based on scientific calculations. > > > > Now you talked of Kalpurush chart and in KAS we consider them first and we > called them Natural KARAK's and the status of that is given a lot of > importance so such things are also considered in the basic fabric of KAS in > its approach. > > > > > > Yes, what Prasanna mentioned is correct about the classification of the > event i.e is it a day to day event or is it a big major one time life event > or events that don't happen too often. > > > > For example death is a one time and most important event of life or when say > one buys a house or a car, now these might be for most of the genral Janta > some big events that do not happen too often in life, v/s timing when one > will eat their food or when some guest will arrive at your home. > > > > So there is a definite classification and categorization of such events and > one must be mindful of that as well. > > > > Now take an example of a Job, then for that Natal chart is important and one > can study the relevant house and come to a prediction based on the WS and > the KAS technique, but if one person has given an interview and then coming > in few days and asking, I have given such and such an interview now will the > result be favorable, then to answer such question you might have to study > the Natal chart and take help of Prashna. Yes, you can also get idea from > the Natal chart by studying the daily points and that will give a reflection > as well. > > > > Ok, these were my thoughts on some of the emails that I have penned down. > It might be a repetition of things that I have already said in my various > mails over time and some related to some questions. > > > > I am out of time... still so much more to write.. > > > > Take care > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of prasanna_1978 > Sunday November 18, 2007 11:20 AM > > Re: Chart Analysis > > > > Dear Anup, > > 7th house is aragla for 6th house -for money point of view it is > dhana aragla (so it is money for satru)-so this is reason may be Mr. > Krishna ji mentioned theft from 7th house. > Same is applicable for disease, disease point of view it is permanent > scar -may be accident(second house refer permanent disease),that's > Mr.Krishna Ji mentioned accident. > Some time having good points in 6th house is curing how? it is based > on what part of body is affected based on kalapursha of the house,it > is 11th or 5th from parts of body 6th house will give good result. > But my experience 6th house with more points giving diseases (I > checked only limited charts),for accident I did not try with KAS. > > I hope my limited knowledge I explained. > > Regards > Prasanna.G > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " Anup. > M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Parsanna, > > > > Sorry to interfere but want to add few words,i read in archives. > > > > If for 7th house a planet is with less points,it can give > accident. > > If this planet is with good points for 6th so the native will be > cured. > > And in 8th house if this is weak, so no fear for giving any bad > result. > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prasanna_1978 <prasanna_1978@> wrote: > > Dear Ramesh > > > > I try to explain in KAS way please forgive me if any wrong in my > > attempt I m not expert in KAS system.as mentioned by Sandy next day > > he discharged from hospital and due to stress he got disease, this > > only passing clouds disease may be one day or two days it will be > > cured. > > > > Small analogy- 6th house is satru stana as per theory, D and E lord > > give good thing, to whom? To the house right that? means satru - > bad > > for native-so 6th house highest point will give disease if same > > planet highest point in 8th house it will give chronic disease > > > > For day to day activities (small activities) check PDF instead of > AD. > > PDF Venus-Mars running at the time of incident Venus is highest > score > > of 6th house and less score in 8thhouse so it is not chronic only > > some problem in the health-Refer Mr.ASH mail to Sameer (15860). > > Venus -Mars -highest point of 1st house,3rd house (3rd house chest - > > non cardiac problem not 4th house -heart)-Refer Paladeepika thats > > why I mentioned Gemini rules chest not heart . > > > > I understood you question kindly check Mr. Ash mail reply to Mr. > > Sameer (15860) I hope you understand clear. > > > > Regards > > > > Prasanna.G > > > > Regards > > > > Prasanna.G > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > ramesh mishra > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sudhir, Sandy, Prasanna and all, > > > No , it is still something wrong somewhere. > > > Whether you take AST +4 with no DST or EST +5 with Yes DST, the > > asc will be 25 Le 17. I am getting KAS ayanamsa as 22:35:46 and not > > as 22:10:18. > > > This difference in ayanamsa may change the planets longitudes > > but it does not reflect here. Why ? > > > For the verification of birth time I re-checked the date of > > marriage with antara lord. > > > The native married in Me antara (third sector ) of Me main. > > > Me is in house E with 4 bindus. Me is one of the significator for > > 7th house. > > > Me may give the event for 7th house matter. > > > Now come to the point of the birth of his Son. > > > Son was born on 4 Nov 2005 when Ke antara was passing through. > > > Ke is SD to Me ,LoD for 5th. > > > Daughter was born on 15 May 2007 when second sector of Ve antara > > was running. > > > Ve is LoE for 5th. > > > There is no delay by Sa for the matter of 5th so the event took > > place in first sector. > > > Let us examine his event of building his own house in 2002. > > > The dasa and antara running was Sa- Ju. > > > Ju is LoC for 4th, LoE for 12th and LoD for 11th. > > > Ju is strong in all these houses in WS.. > > > But the point in 12th should have been more than that of 11th > > instead it is less. > > > Let me examine the event which took place on 17 Oct 2007 during > > second sector of Ve antara of Me main. > > > Ve is strong in all houses in WS. > > > Ve is LoD for 1st and 6th. > > > As per KAS theory LoD and LoE always give good results. > > > Death is considered as a good event but hospitalisation and > > sickness may not be considered a good event. > > > For the matter of 1st (SELF) house the significators are Su and > > Ju. > > > The FK is Ju who is in 6th house of disease and this 6th is LoE > > for 1st. > > > LoE is Sa. Ve antara is NSD to Sa. > > > Me is NK and Sa is FK for 4th house of chest. > > > This karak occupy 12th house of hospital and aspected by the FK > > of self from the house of disease. > > > The karak for 6th is strongly posited in karaksthann of 4th. > > > Su is strongly afflicted by Ma, Sa and Ra so the chest pain. > > > I want to ask that for the timing of Ve antara for the matter of > > 1st, 6th and 12th the points in WS should have been less than 12 > > points. > > > Otherwise we may assume that good events will be given by Ve or > > for whom it is SD being LoD and LoE. > > > Hope you understand my query. > > > Thanks and regards. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > Sudhir <taurus.sudhir@> wrote: > > > Thanks Sandy, Its OK now > > > > > > Is MD, .....Maryland ? > > > > > > Regards > > > Sudhir > > > > > > > > > On 11/18/07, Sandy Crowther <sandycrowther@> > > wrote: Dear Ramesh, Prasanna, and Sudhir, > > > Popped in for a moment tonight and saw the confusion going > > on...Here's the chart you are referencing. Please note the correct > > data input for the KAS Worksheet. Eastern Daylight Time was in > > effect, making it Eastern Standard Time on the Worksheet, with 1 > hour > > DST in effect. > > > Hope this helps clear the confusion. > > > Warm regards, > > > Sandy > > > > > > NAME: PLACE: Annapolis > > MD BIRTHDATE: 22-Jun-1943 Time Zone: EST > > +05:00 TIME: 12:3 DST: Yes Latitude: > > 38 N 58 KAS AYANAMSA: 22:10:18 Longitude: 76 > > W > > 29 > > > > Rasi- NATAL CHART 4 Navamsa - SPOUSE > > D9 8 > > 33 9 30 10 32 11 26 5 29 6 27 7 > > 26 8 30 Ma Me Sa Su Ma > > Me 7 24 12 25 4 > > 27 9 26 Mo Bitmap > > D Ju Ve Ra Ve Ra A > > B Natal Divisional 6 32 1 > > 23 3 33 Chart 10 23 Ke E > > C Asc Ju Sa Ke > > > 5 33 4 26 3 > > 27 2 26 2 29 1 22 12 34 11 > > 31 Su Mo > > Asc > > > > ASHTARKAVARGA POWER DIVISIONAL CHART > > DETAILS TRANSIT CHART > > (SOUTH) NATAL Bitmap SU MO MA ME JU > > VE SA BINDUS 5 3 > > 4 7 3 4 4 TRANSIT DATE IS: 17-Nov- > > 07 > > > > NATAL CHART DATA NATAL DASA > > SUMMARY > > > > Planet Degrees Nakshatra Lord Navamsa Mahadasa Start > > To > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > [Message clipped] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Save all your chat conversations. 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