Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Dear Sudhir, Yes...MD is Maryland. Warm regards, Sandy , Sudhir <taurus.sudhir wrote:>> Thanks Sandy, Its OK now> > Is MD, .....Maryland ?> > Regards> Sudhir> > > On 11/18/07, Sandy Crowther sandycrowther wrote:> >> > Dear Ramesh, Prasanna, and Sudhir,> >> > Popped in for a moment tonight and saw the confusion going on...Here's the> > chart you are referencing. Please note the correct data input for the KAS> > Worksheet. Eastern Daylight Time was in effect, making it Eastern Standard> > Time on the Worksheet, with 1 hour DST in effect.> >> > Hope this helps clear the confusion. [image: ]> >> > Warm regards,> >> > Sandy> >> > *NAME: * ** ** ** ** ** *PLACE:* *Annapolis* *MD* * * *> > BIRTHDATE:* *22-Jun-1943* ** ** ** ** *Time Zone:* *EST +05:00* ** **> > * * * TIME:* *12:3* *DST:* *Yes* ** ** ** ** *Latitude:* *38* *N* *58* *> > * ** *KAS AYANAMSA:* *22:10:18* ** ** ** ** *Longitude:* *76* *W* *29*> > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *> > *Rasi- NATAL CHART* *4* *Navamsa - SPOUSE* *D9* ** ** ** ** ** ** ** **> > ** ** ** ** ** *8* 33 * * *9* 30 * * *10* 32 * * *11* 26 * * *> > 5* 29 *6* 27 *7* 26 *8* 30 *Ma * * * *Me Sa * *Su * *Ma * * *> > *Me * * * *7* 24 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *12* 25 * * *4* 27> > *9* 26 *Mo * * * * Bitmap * D * * * * * * *Ju Ve Ra* *Ve Ra*> > * * A * * B *Natal Divisional* ** *6* 32 * * * * * * * * * * *1* 23> > * * *3* 33 * * *Chart* * * *10* 23 *Ke* * * E C * * * * * * *> > Asc * * * *Ju Sa Ke* * * * * * * * * * * * * *5*> > 33 * * *4* 26 * * *3* 27 * * *2* 26 * * *2* 29 *1* 22 *12* 34 *11*> > 31 * * * * * * * * *Su Mo * *Asc * * * * *> > ASHTARKAVARGA POWER</post?act=reply & messageNum=17112 & referer=/message/17112 & use_rte=1#Summary!A1>> > DIVISIONAL CHART DETAILS</post?act=reply & messageNum=17112 & referer=/message/17112 & use_rte=1#Divisionals!A1>> > TRANSIT CHART (SOUTH)</post?act=reply & messageNum=17112 & referer=/message/17112 & use_rte=1#TransitChartSouth!A1>> > *NATAL * Bitmap *SU* *MO* *MA* *ME* *JU* *VE* *SA* ** ** ** ** *> > * ** * * * * ** ** ** *BINDUS* *5 * *3 * *4 * *7 * *3 * *4 * *4> > * ** *TRANSIT DATE IS:* *17-Nov-07* * * * * * * * * * * * * *> > * NATAL CHART DATA</post?act=reply & messageNum=17112 & referer=/message/17112 & use_rte=1#NATALDataEntry!A1> NATAL> > DASA SUMMARY</post?act=reply & messageNum=17112 & referer=/message/17112 & use_rte=1#NatalDasas!A1>> > *Planet* *Degrees* *> > Nakshatra* *Lord* *Navamsa* *Mahadasa* *Start* *To*> >> > ...> >> > [Message clipped]> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Dear Prasanna, A couple of points. If you just read the introductory page of the list, its given that one must have a good grasp of VA first and then one can use KAS to point point timing of events. Ju in lagna if with more than 4 bindus, can become very eager to give 8th house results. LoD and LoE are eager so 1st and 5th house lords or planets in these house with more than 4 bindus and Ra and Ke in 1st or 5th house become very eager to give results of 8th house. This might be contrary to what is given in general VA books. Actually the contrary belief is that Ju in lagna can protect like trident of shiva or something like that, however as far as KAS is concerned, Ju in lagna with more than 4 bindus will become eager to deliver the results of 8th house. Yes, it might not give accident as it will aspect 7th house and that too in some situation where its not LoD or LoE. If Ju is 6th lord and placed in lagna then its worst, as if u see Lord Ram’s chart, Ju being 6th lord and placed in Lagna, will devoid the person of the person denoted by the house it aspects. First Ram’s father died when he left for vanvas in Ju’s antra, Ju’s 5th aspect, then Ram lost his wife and separation, Ju’s aspect on 7th house and finally he children were born in his absence and he lost his children as well if memory serves me right and that was 9th aspect of Ju. As per the laws of KAS, many planets that are unccha and with more bindus, reduce the status of the chart. Such person might get things i.e timing of events (based on the WS) but it will be at a great cost or sacrifice. So many planets were exalted in Lord Ram’s charts but if u take view of life, he had to make so many sacrifices. Yes, Mo with Ju in lagna makes one a mahapurush but it was at a very big cost. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of prasanna_1978 Monday November 19, 2007 7:10 AM Subject: Re: Chart Analysis || OM NAMO NARAYANA|| Dear Ash, Thanks for your mail and I appreciate your more knowledge in the system,im sorry and feeling im killing your time for answering my questions. Find below my comments, this only for educational point of view not augmenting base -for getting more information and knowledge in KAS –Please take your own time and reply t say you reply fast when you find time you can answer back- once again sorry for killing your busy schedule. ASH :- 7th house is that for accident. 7th is opposite party from 1st who is self. We do not use Argala and things like that in KAS. In KAS all such things are already considered indirectly, but for that you must keep a clean slate and not mix systems. KAS has a particular way and an approach to solve charts. As per VA, 7th and 2nd house are called Marak Sthan and as per KAS we are giving this with proper reasoning that 7th house is that of Accident (NOT DEATH) and House A is 2nd house so that is the KARAK sthan for 7th house. PRASANNA:-AS PER VA 2 AND 7TH HOUSES ONLY FOR KILLER HOUSE WE USE FOR ONLY TIMING OF EVENTS IT IS NOT RELATING TO LENGTH OF LIFE – LONGEVITY ,IT IS CONTROLLED BY 8TH HOUSE AND 3RD HOUSE ONLY,NOT 2ND AND 7TH HOUSE,EVEN WHEN WE CALCULATE LENGTH OF LIFE WE ARE NOT CONSIDERING 2 AND 7TH HOUSE. 3RD HOUSE IS 8TH FROM 8TH SO BHAVAT BHAVAM CONCEPT –IT MEANS IT MANIFESTATION OF HOUSE SO 12TH FROM THAT SAGES ARE USING FOR TIMING OF EVENTS. AS PER KAS C HOUSE IS QUALITY MY CONCEPT B HOUSE IS QUANTITY SO 8TH HOUSE QUANTITY OF LIFE ONE MAIL I READ FROM MR.KRSHNA JI 8TH HOUSE POINT ALL GOOD IT WILL GIVE BALARSITA OR LONGEVITY IS VERY LOW,I WORKED WITH BALARISTA CHART IT IS 100% WORKING BUT IF NOT FOLLOW VA CONCEPT LIKE OVERRIDERS IT IS NOT WORKING (SAY EXAMPLE EVEN THOUGH 8TH HOUSE POINTS ALL GOOD JUPITER IN LAGNA IT IS NOT KILLING -THIS ONLY MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE ),WHY I STATED WITHOUT VA CONCEPTS IF WE USE KAS MAY BE WE ARE MISSING SOME WHERE. I KNOW WE DONT HAVE LESSON ON LONGIVITY MAY BE AFTER HE TEACH I MAY UNDERSTAND FULLY. Ash:-Now Prasanna, think over it logically. 7th house is that of dincharya or day to day activity. Its 10th from 10th house which is that of Karma and authority. Now if there are low points in 7th house then that might affect the dincharya and so if there is an major accident then 7th house will get affected and person might have to change his or her day to day routine. Now take case of Heart Attack. Once a person gets a heart attack (Accident and 7th house is here) then his or her lifestyle has to be changed if one wants to prolong life. PRASANNA:-I AGREE WITH YOUR DINACHARYA CONCEPT IT VERY GOOD I DID NOT THINK IN THIS WAY, BUT MY QUESTION IS DINACHRAYA IS AFFECTED IT GIVE – HEALTH RELATED POINT OF VIEW -BIORTHTHUM OF HEALTH WILL AFFECT –YOU MEANS TO SAY THAT IT IS AN ACCIDENT -MAY BE DINACHARYA WILL AFFECT ISSUE-MAY BE DUE TO FASTING OR NON AVAILABLITIY OF TIME IT COULD HAPPEN. REMAINING POINTS WHICH YOU STATED 100% AGREE WITH YOU. I m not mixing up the other,but one time Mr.Kurshna Ji stated all VA principal will work with the system including yogas,I tried with many charts using Arudha and yogas it is perfectly working with timing (I'm leaving to India for vacation after I come from India I will post my research study regarding arudha with KAS)-This is first system in my experience working perfectly in timings of event very accurately. Thanks and Regards Prasanna.G , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Prasanna and List members, > > > > I just came to the site and taking a short break and I read a few mails so I > am just penning some thoughts that I read in some emails all bundled into > this email. > > > > > > 7th house is that for accident. 7th is opposite party from 1st who is self. > We do not use Argala and things like that in KAS. In KAS all such things > are already considered indirectly, but for that you must keep a clean slate > and not mix systems. > > KAS has a particular way and an approach to solve charts. > > > > Now 6th house as per KAS is like a black hole and the lord of 6th house is > malefic. 6th house is also that of stomach and that's the root of all > illness and disease. 6th house is that of enmity and 7th house is that of > accident. > > As per VA, 7th and 2nd house are called Marak Sthan and as per KAS we are > giving this with proper reasoning that 7th house is that of Accident (NOT > DEATH) and House A is 2nd house so that is the KARAK sthan for 7th house. > > > > What Krushnaji has given in lessons, if read with concentration will solve > so many of the riddles of VA and with proper and concrete reasoning using > the theory of KAS. > > > > Now Prasanna, think over it logically. 7th house is that of dincharya or > day to day activity. Its 10th from 10th house which is that of Karma and > authority. Now if there are low points in 7th house then that might affect > the dincharya and so if there is an major accident then 7th house will get > affected and person might have to change his or her day to day routine. Now > take case of Heart Attack. Once a person gets a heart attack (Accident and > 7th house is here) then his or her lifestyle has to be changed if one wants > to prolong life. > > > > 2nd house is the Karak for 7th house and that controls the quality of result > of 7th house. So in VA this might have been called MARAK meaning " Killer " > in the literal sense, however as per KAS, death is from 8th house and > accident can be seen from 7th house. > > > > Now if MD is related to 2nd and 3rd and AD is powerful for 8th and less for > 7th and even less for 6th house then the person might die as a result of > accident during that particular MD and Antra and since 6th house power is > less then the person might be able to recover from the accident. > > > > 6th house is upachaya sthan for 1st house. 1st house and that of SELF is > KARAK for 6th house. So 1st house is important for 6th house and for 1st > house 6th is E and for 6th house 1st house is A. House C is 10th house. > > > > 6th house, if its weak i.e if points are weak in the WS the then native > might face problems regarding 6th house matters and one of the things > represented by 6th house is health. Now in some MD a person might face more > problems w.r.t job and in other MD the native might face more problems > related to health. > > > > However, now 3rd and 11th lords are D and E for 6th house so in their antra, > the person might have good results of 6th house so u can say that if a > person is sick he might get a good boost to recover or maybe his ailment > might be diagnosed properly in antra of such lord and proper corrective > action might be prescribed or maybe the native might come across a new drug > that might cause better recovery or things of such sort. > > > > So here as per KAS, we are teaching you to think more logically and I am > sure that once u know the root reason or think logically you will have > better confidence in your predictions. > > > > Even, diagnosis of ailments, for that one must have good medical knowledge > to understand that say if Venus is badly spoilt then that over time might > lead to severe problems with liver or diabetes or certain laws of VA that Sa > with 6th lord in 3rd house might make one prone to asthama or breathing > related problems and things like that. So for that u must go into detail > and study each planet from all angles and should have proper and sound > understanding of what might cause a particular illness. If a person is > facing more problems with stomach then 6th house, 1st house, sun etc play a > role and exactly how is what one can understand. > > > > The medical portion of KAS is yet to be taught by Krushnaji and maybe he > want to teach other lessons first before we go into the depths of the > application of KAS in fields like Prashna, Medical Astrology, the micro > astrology portion, Vastu portion, Mundane and event o Nadi level. For that > we must first get the portion taught and the technique well engrained in our > minds so that when you go into the application, you will venture into it > with a good and strong foundation and with a mindset that is logical and > based on concrete footing. > > > > Now Prasanna raised a question about having a permanent scar. Now is that > an accident? Say how is that different from a person loosing his hand or > leg in a accident? How would u judge what is accident? So here do u go by > whats in the good books or u start to use your logic and reasoning and go to > the very basis that 7th house deals with Dincharya. 1st is SELF and 7th is > Opposite of that. So something that can affect a dincharya might be > " termed " as an accident. > > > > So a permenant scar, say on a hand, that heals, v/s a scar or an infection > that might get infected by gangarine and have to be operated on and removed? > So would that be an accident? > > > > So here its very important that one must think logically and go back to the > basics to understand what it means. > > > > So why is 7th and 2nd house called maraks by our seers? What were they > thinking when they might have said that? Did they mean that u study DEATH > from 7th and 2nd house ? then what is the use of 8th house for death and > 3rd as the karak? > > > > Now, study this from the view point of KAS and then u will get some answers, > now I don't say that u might get all the answers though I personally believe > you can get it in due course of time and as the understanding increase in > time, but in KAS we are dealing with things on a concrete footing with > proper reasoning again from the view point of KAS. > > > > There might be many ways and systems dealing each in their own way to > decipher an event or approach it, and KAS has its own way and approach and > also the students who are learning KAS will have a logical mind and an > approach as this system is based on scientific calculations. > > > > Now you talked of Kalpurush chart and in KAS we consider them first and we > called them Natural KARAK's and the status of that is given a lot of > importance so such things are also considered in the basic fabric of KAS in > its approach. > > > > > > Yes, what Prasanna mentioned is correct about the classification of the > event i.e is it a day to day event or is it a big major one time life event > or events that don't happen too often. > > > > For example death is a one time and most important event of life or when say > one buys a house or a car, now these might be for most of the genral Janta > some big events that do not happen too often in life, v/s timing when one > will eat their food or when some guest will arrive at your home. > > > > So there is a definite classification and categorization of such events and > one must be mindful of that as well. > > > > Now take an example of a Job, then for that Natal chart is important and one > can study the relevant house and come to a prediction based on the WS and > the KAS technique, but if one person has given an interview and then coming > in few days and asking, I have given such and such an interview now will the > result be favorable, then to answer such question you might have to study > the Natal chart and take help of Prashna. Yes, you can also get idea from > the Natal chart by studying the daily points and that will give a reflection > as well. > > > > Ok, these were my thoughts on some of the emails that I have penned down. > It might be a repetition of things that I have already said in my various > mails over time and some related to some questions. > > > > I am out of time... still so much more to write.. > > > > Take care > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of prasanna_1978 > Sunday November 18, 2007 11:20 AM > > Re: Chart Analysis > > > > Dear Anup, > > 7th house is aragla for 6th house -for money point of view it is > dhana aragla (so it is money for satru)-so this is reason may be Mr. > Krishna ji mentioned theft from 7th house. > Same is applicable for disease, disease point of view it is permanent > scar -may be accident(second house refer permanent disease),that's > Mr.Krishna Ji mentioned accident. > Some time having good points in 6th house is curing how? it is based > on what part of body is affected based on kalapursha of the house,it > is 11th or 5th from parts of body 6th house will give good result. > But my experience 6th house with more points giving diseases (I > checked only limited charts),for accident I did not try with KAS. > > I hope my limited knowledge I explained. > > Regards > Prasanna.G > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " Anup. > M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Parsanna, > > > > Sorry to interfere but want to add few words,i read in archives. > > > > If for 7th house a planet is with less points,it can give > accident. > > If this planet is with good points for 6th so the native will be > cured. > > And in 8th house if this is weak, so no fear for giving any bad > result. > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prasanna_1978 <prasanna_1978@> wrote: > > Dear Ramesh > > > > I try to explain in KAS way please forgive me if any wrong in my > > attempt I m not expert in KAS system.as mentioned by Sandy next day > > he discharged from hospital and due to stress he got disease, this > > only passing clouds disease may be one day or two days it will be > > cured. > > > > Small analogy- 6th house is satru stana as per theory, D and E lord > > give good thing, to whom? To the house right that? means satru - > bad > > for native-so 6th house highest point will give disease if same > > planet highest point in 8th house it will give chronic disease > > > > For day to day activities (small activities) check PDF instead of > AD. > > PDF Venus-Mars running at the time of incident Venus is highest > score > > of 6th house and less score in 8thhouse so it is not chronic only > > some problem in the health-Refer Mr.ASH mail to Sameer (15860). > > Venus -Mars -highest point of 1st house,3rd house (3rd house chest - > > non cardiac problem not 4th house -heart)-Refer Paladeepika thats > > why I mentioned Gemini rules chest not heart . > > > > I understood you question kindly check Mr. Ash mail reply to Mr. > > Sameer (15860) I hope you understand clear. > > > > Regards > > > > Prasanna.G > > > > Regards > > > > Prasanna.G > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > ramesh mishra > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sudhir, Sandy, Prasanna and all, > > > No , it is still something wrong somewhere. > > > Whether you take AST +4 with no DST or EST +5 with Yes DST, the > > asc will be 25 Le 17. I am getting KAS ayanamsa as 22:35:46 and not > > as 22:10:18. > > > This difference in ayanamsa may change the planets longitudes > > but it does not reflect here. Why ? > > > For the verification of birth time I re-checked the date of > > marriage with antara lord. > > > The native married in Me antara (third sector ) of Me main. > > > Me is in house E with 4 bindus. Me is one of the significator for > > 7th house. > > > Me may give the event for 7th house matter. > > > Now come to the point of the birth of his Son. > > > Son was born on 4 Nov 2005 when Ke antara was passing through. > > > Ke is SD to Me ,LoD for 5th. > > > Daughter was born on 15 May 2007 when second sector of Ve antara > > was running. > > > Ve is LoE for 5th. > > > There is no delay by Sa for the matter of 5th so the event took > > place in first sector. > > > Let us examine his event of building his own house in 2002. > > > The dasa and antara running was Sa- Ju. > > > Ju is LoC for 4th, LoE for 12th and LoD for 11th. > > > Ju is strong in all these houses in WS.. > > > But the point in 12th should have been more than that of 11th > > instead it is less. > > > Let me examine the event which took place on 17 Oct 2007 during > > second sector of Ve antara of Me main. > > > Ve is strong in all houses in WS. > > > Ve is LoD for 1st and 6th. > > > As per KAS theory LoD and LoE always give good results. > > > Death is considered as a good event but hospitalisation and > > sickness may not be considered a good event. > > > For the matter of 1st (SELF) house the significators are Su and > > Ju. > > > The FK is Ju who is in 6th house of disease and this 6th is LoE > > for 1st. > > > LoE is Sa. Ve antara is NSD to Sa. > > > Me is NK and Sa is FK for 4th house of chest. > > > This karak occupy 12th house of hospital and aspected by the FK > > of self from the house of disease. > > > The karak for 6th is strongly posited in karaksthann of 4th. > > > Su is strongly afflicted by Ma, Sa and Ra so the chest pain. > > > I want to ask that for the timing of Ve antara for the matter of > > 1st, 6th and 12th the points in WS should have been less than 12 > > points. > > > Otherwise we may assume that good events will be given by Ve or > > for whom it is SD being LoD and LoE. > > > Hope you understand my query. > > > Thanks and regards. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > Sudhir <taurus.sudhir@> wrote: > > > Thanks Sandy, Its OK now > > > > > > Is MD, .....Maryland ? > > > > > > Regards > > > Sudhir > > > > > > > > > On 11/18/07, Sandy Crowther <sandycrowther@> > > wrote: Dear Ramesh, Prasanna, and Sudhir, > > > Popped in for a moment tonight and saw the confusion going > > on...Here's the chart you are referencing. Please note the correct > > data input for the KAS Worksheet. Eastern Daylight Time was in > > effect, making it Eastern Standard Time on the Worksheet, with 1 > hour > > DST in effect. > > > Hope this helps clear the confusion. > > > Warm regards, > > > Sandy > > > > > > NAME: PLACE: Annapolis > > MD BIRTHDATE: 22-Jun-1943 Time Zone: EST > > +05:00 TIME: 12:3 DST: Yes Latitude: > > 38 N 58 KAS AYANAMSA: 22:10:18 Longitude: 76 > > W > > 29 > > > > Rasi- NATAL CHART 4 Navamsa - SPOUSE > > D9 8 > > 33 9 30 10 32 11 26 5 29 6 27 7 > > 26 8 30 Ma Me Sa Su Ma > > Me 7 24 12 25 4 > > 27 9 26 Mo Bitmap > > D Ju Ve Ra Ve Ra A > > B Natal Divisional 6 32 1 > > 23 3 33 Chart 10 23 Ke E > > C Asc Ju Sa Ke > > > 5 33 4 26 3 > > 27 2 26 2 29 1 22 12 34 11 > > 31 Su Mo > > Asc > > > > ASHTARKAVARGA POWER DIVISIONAL CHART > > DETAILS TRANSIT CHART > > (SOUTH) NATAL Bitmap SU MO MA ME JU > > VE SA BINDUS 5 3 > > 4 7 3 4 4 TRANSIT DATE IS: 17-Nov- > > 07 > > > > NATAL CHART DATA NATAL DASA > > SUMMARY > > > > Planet Degrees Nakshatra Lord Navamsa Mahadasa Start > > To > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > [Message clipped] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Save all your chat conversations. 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Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Dear Ashji, here jupiter was loD for 9th house still in its antra it gave the result(can it be malefic as its the antra of loD ?) specially because it was lord of 6th house. again this jupiter might be in lagna with more points so also gave the result for 4th and 8th house.. i.e. death of father and sorrow ? thanks/regards harjeet , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Prasanna, > > > > A couple of points. > > > > If you just read the introductory page of the list, its given that one must > have a good grasp of VA first and then one can use KAS to point point timing > of events. > > > > Ju in lagna if with more than 4 bindus, can become very eager to give 8th > house results. LoD and LoE are eager so 1st and 5th house lords or planets > in these house with more than 4 bindus and Ra and Ke in 1st or 5th house > become very eager to give results of 8th house. > > > > This might be contrary to what is given in general VA books. Actually the > contrary belief is that Ju in lagna can protect like trident of shiva or > something like that, however as far as KAS is concerned, Ju in lagna with > more than 4 bindus will become eager to deliver the results of 8th house. > Yes, it might not give accident as it will aspect 7th house and that too in > some situation where its not LoD or LoE. > > > > If Ju is 6th lord and placed in lagna then its worst, as if u see Lord Ram's > chart, Ju being 6th lord and placed in Lagna, will devoid the person of the > person denoted by the house it aspects. First Ram's father died when he > left for vanvas in Ju's antra, Ju's 5th aspect, then Ram lost his wife and > separation, Ju's aspect on 7th house and finally he children were born in > his absence and he lost his children as well if memory serves me right and > that was 9th aspect of Ju. > > > > As per the laws of KAS, many planets that are unccha and with more bindus, > reduce the status of the chart. Such person might get things i.e timing of > events (based on the WS) but it will be at a great cost or sacrifice. So > many planets were exalted in Lord Ram's charts but if u take view of life, > he had to make so many sacrifices. Yes, Mo with Ju in lagna makes one a > mahapurush but it was at a very big cost. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of prasanna_1978 > Monday November 19, 2007 7:10 AM > > Re: Chart Analysis > > > > || OM NAMO NARAYANA|| > Dear Ash, > > Thanks for your mail and I appreciate your more knowledge in the > system,im sorry and feeling im killing your time for answering my > questions. Find below my comments, this only for educational point of > view not augmenting base -for getting more information and knowledge > in KAS -Please take your own time and reply t say you reply fast when > you find time you can answer back- once again sorry for killing your > busy schedule. > > ASH :- 7th house is that for accident. 7th is opposite party from > 1st who is self. We do not use Argala and things like that in KAS. > In KAS all such things are already considered indirectly, but for > that you must keep a clean slate and not mix systems. > KAS has a particular way and an approach to solve charts. > As per VA, 7th and 2nd house are called Marak Sthan and as per KAS we > are giving this with proper reasoning that 7th house is that of > Accident (NOT DEATH) and House A is 2nd house so that is the KARAK > sthan for 7th house. > > PRASANNA:-AS PER VA 2 AND 7TH HOUSES ONLY FOR KILLER HOUSE WE USE > FOR ONLY TIMING OF EVENTS IT IS NOT RELATING TO LENGTH OF LIFE - > LONGEVITY ,IT IS CONTROLLED BY 8TH HOUSE AND 3RD HOUSE ONLY,NOT 2ND > AND 7TH HOUSE,EVEN WHEN WE CALCULATE LENGTH OF LIFE WE ARE NOT > CONSIDERING 2 AND 7TH HOUSE. > > 3RD HOUSE IS 8TH FROM 8TH SO BHAVAT BHAVAM CONCEPT -IT MEANS IT > MANIFESTATION OF HOUSE SO 12TH FROM THAT SAGES ARE USING FOR TIMING > OF EVENTS. > AS PER KAS C HOUSE IS QUALITY MY CONCEPT B HOUSE IS QUANTITY SO 8TH > HOUSE QUANTITY OF LIFE > ONE MAIL I READ FROM MR.KRSHNA JI 8TH HOUSE POINT ALL GOOD IT WILL > GIVE BALARSITA OR LONGEVITY IS VERY LOW,I WORKED WITH BALARISTA CHART > IT IS 100% WORKING BUT IF NOT FOLLOW VA CONCEPT LIKE OVERRIDERS IT IS > NOT WORKING (SAY EXAMPLE EVEN THOUGH 8TH HOUSE POINTS ALL GOOD > JUPITER IN LAGNA IT IS NOT KILLING -THIS ONLY MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE > ),WHY I STATED WITHOUT VA CONCEPTS IF WE USE KAS MAY BE WE ARE > MISSING SOME WHERE. I KNOW WE DONT HAVE LESSON ON LONGIVITY MAY BE > AFTER HE TEACH I MAY UNDERSTAND FULLY. > > Ash:-Now Prasanna, think over it logically. 7th house is that of > dincharya or day to day activity. Its 10th from 10th house which is > that of Karma and authority. Now if there are low points in 7th > house then that might affect the dincharya and so if there is an > major accident then 7th house will get affected and person might have > to change his or her day to day routine. Now take case of Heart > Attack. Once a person gets a heart attack (Accident and 7th house is > here) then his or her lifestyle has to be changed if one wants to > prolong life. > PRASANNA:-I AGREE WITH YOUR DINACHARYA CONCEPT IT VERY GOOD I DID NOT > THINK IN THIS WAY, BUT MY QUESTION IS DINACHRAYA IS AFFECTED IT GIVE - > HEALTH RELATED POINT OF VIEW -BIORTHTHUM OF HEALTH WILL AFFECT -YOU > MEANS TO SAY THAT IT IS AN ACCIDENT -MAY BE DINACHARYA WILL AFFECT > ISSUE-MAY BE DUE TO FASTING OR NON AVAILABLITIY OF TIME IT COULD > HAPPEN. > REMAINING POINTS WHICH YOU STATED 100% AGREE WITH YOU. > > I m not mixing up the other,but one time Mr.Kurshna Ji stated all VA > principal will work with the system including yogas,I tried with many > charts using Arudha and yogas it is perfectly working with timing > (I'm leaving to India for vacation after I come from India I will > post my research study regarding arudha with KAS)-This is first > system in my experience working perfectly in timings of event very > accurately. > > Thanks and Regards > > Prasanna.G > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " Ash " <kas@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Prasanna and List members, > > > > > > > > I just came to the site and taking a short break and I read a few > mails so I > > am just penning some thoughts that I read in some emails all > bundled into > > this email. > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th house is that for accident. 7th is opposite party from 1st who > is self. > > We do not use Argala and things like that in KAS. In KAS all such > things > > are already considered indirectly, but for that you must keep a > clean slate > > and not mix systems. > > > > KAS has a particular way and an approach to solve charts. > > > > > > > > Now 6th house as per KAS is like a black hole and the lord of 6th > house is > > malefic. 6th house is also that of stomach and that's the root of > all > > illness and disease. 6th house is that of enmity and 7th house is > that of > > accident. > > > > As per VA, 7th and 2nd house are called Marak Sthan and as per KAS > we are > > giving this with proper reasoning that 7th house is that of > Accident (NOT > > DEATH) and House A is 2nd house so that is the KARAK sthan for 7th > house. > > > > > > > > What Krushnaji has given in lessons, if read with concentration > will solve > > so many of the riddles of VA and with proper and concrete reasoning > using > > the theory of KAS. > > > > > > > > Now Prasanna, think over it logically. 7th house is that of > dincharya or > > day to day activity. Its 10th from 10th house which is that of > Karma and > > authority. Now if there are low points in 7th house then that > might affect > > the dincharya and so if there is an major accident then 7th house > will get > > affected and person might have to change his or her day to day > routine. Now > > take case of Heart Attack. Once a person gets a heart attack > (Accident and > > 7th house is here) then his or her lifestyle has to be changed if > one wants > > to prolong life. > > > > > > > > 2nd house is the Karak for 7th house and that controls the quality > of result > > of 7th house. So in VA this might have been called MARAK meaning > " Killer " > > in the literal sense, however as per KAS, death is from 8th house > and > > accident can be seen from 7th house. > > > > > > > > Now if MD is related to 2nd and 3rd and AD is powerful for 8th and > less for > > 7th and even less for 6th house then the person might die as a > result of > > accident during that particular MD and Antra and since 6th house > power is > > less then the person might be able to recover from the accident. > > > > > > > > 6th house is upachaya sthan for 1st house. 1st house and that of > SELF is > > KARAK for 6th house. So 1st house is important for 6th house and > for 1st > > house 6th is E and for 6th house 1st house is A. House C is 10th > house. > > > > > > > > 6th house, if its weak i.e if points are weak in the WS the then > native > > might face problems regarding 6th house matters and one of the > things > > represented by 6th house is health. Now in some MD a person might > face more > > problems w.r.t job and in other MD the native might face more > problems > > related to health. > > > > > > > > However, now 3rd and 11th lords are D and E for 6th house so in > their antra, > > the person might have good results of 6th house so u can say that > if a > > person is sick he might get a good boost to recover or maybe his > ailment > > might be diagnosed properly in antra of such lord and proper > corrective > > action might be prescribed or maybe the native might come across a > new drug > > that might cause better recovery or things of such sort. > > > > > > > > So here as per KAS, we are teaching you to think more logically and > I am > > sure that once u know the root reason or think logically you will > have > > better confidence in your predictions. > > > > > > > > Even, diagnosis of ailments, for that one must have good medical > knowledge > > to understand that say if Venus is badly spoilt then that over time > might > > lead to severe problems with liver or diabetes or certain laws of > VA that Sa > > with 6th lord in 3rd house might make one prone to asthama or > breathing > > related problems and things like that. So for that u must go into > detail > > and study each planet from all angles and should have proper and > sound > > understanding of what might cause a particular illness. If a > person is > > facing more problems with stomach then 6th house, 1st house, sun > etc play a > > role and exactly how is what one can understand. > > > > > > > > The medical portion of KAS is yet to be taught by Krushnaji and > maybe he > > want to teach other lessons first before we go into the depths of > the > > application of KAS in fields like Prashna, Medical Astrology, the > micro > > astrology portion, Vastu portion, Mundane and event o Nadi level. > For that > > we must first get the portion taught and the technique well > engrained in our > > minds so that when you go into the application, you will venture > into it > > with a good and strong foundation and with a mindset that is > logical and > > based on concrete footing. > > > > > > > > Now Prasanna raised a question about having a permanent scar. Now > is that > > an accident? Say how is that different from a person loosing his > hand or > > leg in a accident? How would u judge what is accident? So here do > u go by > > whats in the good books or u start to use your logic and reasoning > and go to > > the very basis that 7th house deals with Dincharya. 1st is SELF > and 7th is > > Opposite of that. So something that can affect a dincharya might be > > " termed " as an accident. > > > > > > > > So a permenant scar, say on a hand, that heals, v/s a scar or an > infection > > that might get infected by gangarine and have to be operated on and > removed? > > So would that be an accident? > > > > > > > > So here its very important that one must think logically and go > back to the > > basics to understand what it means. > > > > > > > > So why is 7th and 2nd house called maraks by our seers? What were > they > > thinking when they might have said that? Did they mean that u > study DEATH > > from 7th and 2nd house ? then what is the use of 8th house for > death and > > 3rd as the karak? > > > > > > > > Now, study this from the view point of KAS and then u will get some > answers, > > now I don't say that u might get all the answers though I > personally believe > > you can get it in due course of time and as the understanding > increase in > > time, but in KAS we are dealing with things on a concrete footing > with > > proper reasoning again from the view point of KAS. > > > > > > > > There might be many ways and systems dealing each in their own way > to > > decipher an event or approach it, and KAS has its own way and > approach and > > also the students who are learning KAS will have a logical mind and > an > > approach as this system is based on scientific calculations. > > > > > > > > Now you talked of Kalpurush chart and in KAS we consider them first > and we > > called them Natural KARAK's and the status of that is given a lot of > > importance so such things are also considered in the basic fabric > of KAS in > > its approach. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, what Prasanna mentioned is correct about the classification of > the > > event i.e is it a day to day event or is it a big major one time > life event > > or events that don't happen too often. > > > > > > > > For example death is a one time and most important event of life or > when say > > one buys a house or a car, now these might be for most of the > genral Janta > > some big events that do not happen too often in life, v/s timing > when one > > will eat their food or when some guest will arrive at your home. > > > > > > > > So there is a definite classification and categorization of such > events and > > one must be mindful of that as well. > > > > > > > > Now take an example of a Job, then for that Natal chart is > important and one > > can study the relevant house and come to a prediction based on the > WS and > > the KAS technique, but if one person has given an interview and > then coming > > in few days and asking, I have given such and such an interview now > will the > > result be favorable, then to answer such question you might have to > study > > the Natal chart and take help of Prashna. Yes, you can also get > idea from > > the Natal chart by studying the daily points and that will give a > reflection > > as well. > > > > > > > > Ok, these were my thoughts on some of the emails that I have penned > down. > > It might be a repetition of things that I have already said in my > various > > mails over time and some related to some questions. > > > > > > > > I am out of time... still so much more to write.. > > > > > > > > Take care > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of > prasanna_1978 > > Sunday November 18, 2007 11:20 AM > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > Re: Chart Analysis > > > > > > > > Dear Anup, > > > > 7th house is aragla for 6th house -for money point of view it is > > dhana aragla (so it is money for satru)-so this is reason may be > Mr. > > Krishna ji mentioned theft from 7th house. > > Same is applicable for disease, disease point of view it is > permanent > > scar -may be accident(second house refer permanent disease),that's > > Mr.Krishna Ji mentioned accident. > > Some time having good points in 6th house is curing how? it is > based > > on what part of body is affected based on kalapursha of the > house,it > > is 11th or 5th from parts of body 6th house will give good result. > > But my experience 6th house with more points giving diseases (I > > checked only limited charts),for accident I did not try with KAS. > > > > I hope my limited knowledge I explained. > > > > Regards > > Prasanna.G > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > " Anup. > > M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Parsanna, > > > > > > Sorry to interfere but want to add few words,i read in archives. > > > > > > If for 7th house a planet is with less points,it can give > > accident. > > > If this planet is with good points for 6th so the native will be > > cured. > > > And in 8th house if this is weak, so no fear for giving any bad > > result. > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prasanna_1978 <prasanna_1978@> wrote: > > > Dear Ramesh > > > > > > I try to explain in KAS way please forgive me if any wrong in my > > > attempt I m not expert in KAS system.as mentioned by Sandy next > day > > > he discharged from hospital and due to stress he got disease, > this > > > only passing clouds disease may be one day or two days it will be > > > cured. > > > > > > Small analogy- 6th house is satru stana as per theory, D and E > lord > > > give good thing, to whom? To the house right that? means satru - > > bad > > > for native-so 6th house highest point will give disease if same > > > planet highest point in 8th house it will give chronic disease > > > > > > For day to day activities (small activities) check PDF instead of > > AD. > > > PDF Venus-Mars running at the time of incident Venus is highest > > score > > > of 6th house and less score in 8thhouse so it is not chronic only > > > some problem in the health-Refer Mr.ASH mail to Sameer (15860). > > > Venus -Mars -highest point of 1st house,3rd house (3rd house > chest - > > > non cardiac problem not 4th house -heart)-Refer Paladeepika thats > > > why I mentioned Gemini rules chest not heart . > > > > > > I understood you question kindly check Mr. Ash mail reply to Mr. > > > Sameer (15860) I hope you understand clear. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Prasanna.G > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Prasanna.G > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > ramesh mishra > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sudhir, Sandy, Prasanna and all, > > > > No , it is still something wrong somewhere. > > > > Whether you take AST +4 with no DST or EST +5 with Yes DST, the > > > asc will be 25 Le 17. I am getting KAS ayanamsa as 22:35:46 and > not > > > as 22:10:18. > > > > This difference in ayanamsa may change the planets longitudes > > > but it does not reflect here. Why ? > > > > For the verification of birth time I re-checked the date of > > > marriage with antara lord. > > > > The native married in Me antara (third sector ) of Me main. > > > > Me is in house E with 4 bindus. Me is one of the significator > for > > > 7th house. > > > > Me may give the event for 7th house matter. > > > > Now come to the point of the birth of his Son. > > > > Son was born on 4 Nov 2005 when Ke antara was passing through. > > > > Ke is SD to Me ,LoD for 5th. > > > > Daughter was born on 15 May 2007 when second sector of Ve > antara > > > was running. > > > > Ve is LoE for 5th. > > > > There is no delay by Sa for the matter of 5th so the event took > > > place in first sector. > > > > Let us examine his event of building his own house in 2002. > > > > The dasa and antara running was Sa- Ju. > > > > Ju is LoC for 4th, LoE for 12th and LoD for 11th. > > > > Ju is strong in all these houses in WS.. > > > > But the point in 12th should have been more than that of 11th > > > instead it is less. > > > > Let me examine the event which took place on 17 Oct 2007 during > > > second sector of Ve antara of Me main. > > > > Ve is strong in all houses in WS. > > > > Ve is LoD for 1st and 6th. > > > > As per KAS theory LoD and LoE always give good results. > > > > Death is considered as a good event but hospitalisation and > > > sickness may not be considered a good event. > > > > For the matter of 1st (SELF) house the significators are Su and > > > Ju. > > > > The FK is Ju who is in 6th house of disease and this 6th is LoE > > > for 1st. > > > > LoE is Sa. Ve antara is NSD to Sa. > > > > Me is NK and Sa is FK for 4th house of chest. > > > > This karak occupy 12th house of hospital and aspected by the FK > > > of self from the house of disease. > > > > The karak for 6th is strongly posited in karaksthann of 4th. > > > > Su is strongly afflicted by Ma, Sa and Ra so the chest pain. > > > > I want to ask that for the timing of Ve antara for the matter > of > > > 1st, 6th and 12th the points in WS should have been less than 12 > > > points. > > > > Otherwise we may assume that good events will be given by Ve or > > > for whom it is SD being LoD and LoE. > > > > Hope you understand my query. > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > Sudhir <taurus.sudhir@> wrote: > > > > Thanks Sandy, Its OK now > > > > > > > > Is MD, .....Maryland ? > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Sudhir > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11/18/07, Sandy Crowther <sandycrowther@> > > > wrote: Dear Ramesh, Prasanna, and Sudhir, > > > > Popped in for a moment tonight and saw the confusion going > > > on...Here's the chart you are referencing. 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Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 ||OM NAMO NARAYANA|| Dear ASH, My understanding dristi in ABC house that planet will not come forward to give result except SD of power full planet. If we closely examine all the houses find below my small input may be other members can give more input and make study on this. House B is focus house -8th from that is A-past lives –Prabadha Karma we have to experience in this life. From A –B is sixth house –it showing punishment –so from karma 6th house punishment-we are considering only good results –here no matter of punishment so if any desire to punish it is not acceptable –it is not good result. From B –C is 5th house-Asarya(protection) –House of protection (from what? Punishment (protect the result of the house means encourage punishment more) So planets aspecting –means desire in the above houses-it is not good result we are considering only good result. Then how come SD of powerful planets giving result? –yes powerful planet try to give good result due to non access of the house –it deputes SD. If we consider from upchaya stana –house of growth -from A past life Karma 3-house is action –D-Eager to give result –action should more - compare E giving result and D giving result will be different.-D you have to work more to get good result. 6-house punishment 10house –5 from 6th protection of 6th house-karma yoga 11-fulfillment –E –Eager to give result. This what im thinking dristi of ABC is not giving result and D and E eager to deliver the result I have seen regarding Rama's chart after I come from vacation we can talk about this –Really after I go through the logic of KAS , Riddles in VA is clearing now. Regarding malefic in upchaya stana give good –we can talk later after jAN 1st BYE FOR NOW ,HAPPY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR. PN:-Above mentioned is own understanding of as per my knowledge, My Guru is not responsible if any wrong concepts stated by me. Regards Prasanna.G , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Prasanna, > > > > A couple of points. > > > > If you just read the introductory page of the list, its given that one must > have a good grasp of VA first and then one can use KAS to point point timing > of events. > > > > Ju in lagna if with more than 4 bindus, can become very eager to give 8th > house results. LoD and LoE are eager so 1st and 5th house lords or planets > in these house with more than 4 bindus and Ra and Ke in 1st or 5th house > become very eager to give results of 8th house. > > > > This might be contrary to what is given in general VA books. Actually the > contrary belief is that Ju in lagna can protect like trident of shiva or > something like that, however as far as KAS is concerned, Ju in lagna with > more than 4 bindus will become eager to deliver the results of 8th house. > Yes, it might not give accident as it will aspect 7th house and that too in > some situation where its not LoD or LoE. > > > > If Ju is 6th lord and placed in lagna then its worst, as if u see Lord Ram's > chart, Ju being 6th lord and placed in Lagna, will devoid the person of the > person denoted by the house it aspects. First Ram's father died when he > left for vanvas in Ju's antra, Ju's 5th aspect, then Ram lost his wife and > separation, Ju's aspect on 7th house and finally he children were born in > his absence and he lost his children as well if memory serves me right and > that was 9th aspect of Ju. > > > > As per the laws of KAS, many planets that are unccha and with more bindus, > reduce the status of the chart. Such person might get things i.e timing of > events (based on the WS) but it will be at a great cost or sacrifice. So > many planets were exalted in Lord Ram's charts but if u take view of life, > he had to make so many sacrifices. Yes, Mo with Ju in lagna makes one a > mahapurush but it was at a very big cost. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of prasanna_1978 > Monday November 19, 2007 7:10 AM > > Re: Chart Analysis > > > > || OM NAMO NARAYANA|| > Dear Ash, > > Thanks for your mail and I appreciate your more knowledge in the > system,im sorry and feeling im killing your time for answering my > questions. Find below my comments, this only for educational point of > view not augmenting base -for getting more information and knowledge > in KAS -Please take your own time and reply t say you reply fast when > you find time you can answer back- once again sorry for killing your > busy schedule. > > ASH :- 7th house is that for accident. 7th is opposite party from > 1st who is self. We do not use Argala and things like that in KAS. > In KAS all such things are already considered indirectly, but for > that you must keep a clean slate and not mix systems. > KAS has a particular way and an approach to solve charts. > As per VA, 7th and 2nd house are called Marak Sthan and as per KAS we > are giving this with proper reasoning that 7th house is that of > Accident (NOT DEATH) and House A is 2nd house so that is the KARAK > sthan for 7th house. > > PRASANNA:-AS PER VA 2 AND 7TH HOUSES ONLY FOR KILLER HOUSE WE USE > FOR ONLY TIMING OF EVENTS IT IS NOT RELATING TO LENGTH OF LIFE - > LONGEVITY ,IT IS CONTROLLED BY 8TH HOUSE AND 3RD HOUSE ONLY,NOT 2ND > AND 7TH HOUSE,EVEN WHEN WE CALCULATE LENGTH OF LIFE WE ARE NOT > CONSIDERING 2 AND 7TH HOUSE. > > 3RD HOUSE IS 8TH FROM 8TH SO BHAVAT BHAVAM CONCEPT -IT MEANS IT > MANIFESTATION OF HOUSE SO 12TH FROM THAT SAGES ARE USING FOR TIMING > OF EVENTS. > AS PER KAS C HOUSE IS QUALITY MY CONCEPT B HOUSE IS QUANTITY SO 8TH > HOUSE QUANTITY OF LIFE > ONE MAIL I READ FROM MR.KRSHNA JI 8TH HOUSE POINT ALL GOOD IT WILL > GIVE BALARSITA OR LONGEVITY IS VERY LOW,I WORKED WITH BALARISTA CHART > IT IS 100% WORKING BUT IF NOT FOLLOW VA CONCEPT LIKE OVERRIDERS IT IS > NOT WORKING (SAY EXAMPLE EVEN THOUGH 8TH HOUSE POINTS ALL GOOD > JUPITER IN LAGNA IT IS NOT KILLING -THIS ONLY MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE > ),WHY I STATED WITHOUT VA CONCEPTS IF WE USE KAS MAY BE WE ARE > MISSING SOME WHERE. I KNOW WE DONT HAVE LESSON ON LONGIVITY MAY BE > AFTER HE TEACH I MAY UNDERSTAND FULLY. > > Ash:-Now Prasanna, think over it logically. 7th house is that of > dincharya or day to day activity. Its 10th from 10th house which is > that of Karma and authority. Now if there are low points in 7th > house then that might affect the dincharya and so if there is an > major accident then 7th house will get affected and person might have > to change his or her day to day routine. Now take case of Heart > Attack. Once a person gets a heart attack (Accident and 7th house is > here) then his or her lifestyle has to be changed if one wants to > prolong life. > PRASANNA:-I AGREE WITH YOUR DINACHARYA CONCEPT IT VERY GOOD I DID NOT > THINK IN THIS WAY, BUT MY QUESTION IS DINACHRAYA IS AFFECTED IT GIVE - > HEALTH RELATED POINT OF VIEW -BIORTHTHUM OF HEALTH WILL AFFECT -YOU > MEANS TO SAY THAT IT IS AN ACCIDENT -MAY BE DINACHARYA WILL AFFECT > ISSUE-MAY BE DUE TO FASTING OR NON AVAILABLITIY OF TIME IT COULD > HAPPEN. > REMAINING POINTS WHICH YOU STATED 100% AGREE WITH YOU. > > I m not mixing up the other,but one time Mr.Kurshna Ji stated all VA > principal will work with the system including yogas,I tried with many > charts using Arudha and yogas it is perfectly working with timing > (I'm leaving to India for vacation after I come from India I will > post my research study regarding arudha with KAS)-This is first > system in my experience working perfectly in timings of event very > accurately. > > Thanks and Regards > > Prasanna.G > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " Ash " <kas@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Prasanna and List members, > > > > > > > > I just came to the site and taking a short break and I read a few > mails so I > > am just penning some thoughts that I read in some emails all > bundled into > > this email. > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th house is that for accident. 7th is opposite party from 1st who > is self. > > We do not use Argala and things like that in KAS. In KAS all such > things > > are already considered indirectly, but for that you must keep a > clean slate > > and not mix systems. > > > > KAS has a particular way and an approach to solve charts. > > > > > > > > Now 6th house as per KAS is like a black hole and the lord of 6th > house is > > malefic. 6th house is also that of stomach and that's the root of > all > > illness and disease. 6th house is that of enmity and 7th house is > that of > > accident. > > > > As per VA, 7th and 2nd house are called Marak Sthan and as per KAS > we are > > giving this with proper reasoning that 7th house is that of > Accident (NOT > > DEATH) and House A is 2nd house so that is the KARAK sthan for 7th > house. > > > > > > > > What Krushnaji has given in lessons, if read with concentration > will solve > > so many of the riddles of VA and with proper and concrete reasoning > using > > the theory of KAS. > > > > > > > > Now Prasanna, think over it logically. 7th house is that of > dincharya or > > day to day activity. Its 10th from 10th house which is that of > Karma and > > authority. Now if there are low points in 7th house then that > might affect > > the dincharya and so if there is an major accident then 7th house > will get > > affected and person might have to change his or her day to day > routine. Now > > take case of Heart Attack. Once a person gets a heart attack > (Accident and > > 7th house is here) then his or her lifestyle has to be changed if > one wants > > to prolong life. > > > > > > > > 2nd house is the Karak for 7th house and that controls the quality > of result > > of 7th house. So in VA this might have been called MARAK meaning > " Killer " > > in the literal sense, however as per KAS, death is from 8th house > and > > accident can be seen from 7th house. > > > > > > > > Now if MD is related to 2nd and 3rd and AD is powerful for 8th and > less for > > 7th and even less for 6th house then the person might die as a > result of > > accident during that particular MD and Antra and since 6th house > power is > > less then the person might be able to recover from the accident. > > > > > > > > 6th house is upachaya sthan for 1st house. 1st house and that of > SELF is > > KARAK for 6th house. So 1st house is important for 6th house and > for 1st > > house 6th is E and for 6th house 1st house is A. House C is 10th > house. > > > > > > > > 6th house, if its weak i.e if points are weak in the WS the then > native > > might face problems regarding 6th house matters and one of the > things > > represented by 6th house is health. Now in some MD a person might > face more > > problems w.r.t job and in other MD the native might face more > problems > > related to health. > > > > > > > > However, now 3rd and 11th lords are D and E for 6th house so in > their antra, > > the person might have good results of 6th house so u can say that > if a > > person is sick he might get a good boost to recover or maybe his > ailment > > might be diagnosed properly in antra of such lord and proper > corrective > > action might be prescribed or maybe the native might come across a > new drug > > that might cause better recovery or things of such sort. > > > > > > > > So here as per KAS, we are teaching you to think more logically and > I am > > sure that once u know the root reason or think logically you will > have > > better confidence in your predictions. > > > > > > > > Even, diagnosis of ailments, for that one must have good medical > knowledge > > to understand that say if Venus is badly spoilt then that over time > might > > lead to severe problems with liver or diabetes or certain laws of > VA that Sa > > with 6th lord in 3rd house might make one prone to asthama or > breathing > > related problems and things like that. So for that u must go into > detail > > and study each planet from all angles and should have proper and > sound > > understanding of what might cause a particular illness. If a > person is > > facing more problems with stomach then 6th house, 1st house, sun > etc play a > > role and exactly how is what one can understand. > > > > > > > > The medical portion of KAS is yet to be taught by Krushnaji and > maybe he > > want to teach other lessons first before we go into the depths of > the > > application of KAS in fields like Prashna, Medical Astrology, the > micro > > astrology portion, Vastu portion, Mundane and event o Nadi level. > For that > > we must first get the portion taught and the technique well > engrained in our > > minds so that when you go into the application, you will venture > into it > > with a good and strong foundation and with a mindset that is > logical and > > based on concrete footing. > > > > > > > > Now Prasanna raised a question about having a permanent scar. Now > is that > > an accident? Say how is that different from a person loosing his > hand or > > leg in a accident? How would u judge what is accident? So here do > u go by > > whats in the good books or u start to use your logic and reasoning > and go to > > the very basis that 7th house deals with Dincharya. 1st is SELF > and 7th is > > Opposite of that. So something that can affect a dincharya might be > > " termed " as an accident. > > > > > > > > So a permenant scar, say on a hand, that heals, v/s a scar or an > infection > > that might get infected by gangarine and have to be operated on and > removed? > > So would that be an accident? > > > > > > > > So here its very important that one must think logically and go > back to the > > basics to understand what it means. > > > > > > > > So why is 7th and 2nd house called maraks by our seers? What were > they > > thinking when they might have said that? Did they mean that u > study DEATH > > from 7th and 2nd house ? then what is the use of 8th house for > death and > > 3rd as the karak? > > > > > > > > Now, study this from the view point of KAS and then u will get some > answers, > > now I don't say that u might get all the answers though I > personally believe > > you can get it in due course of time and as the understanding > increase in > > time, but in KAS we are dealing with things on a concrete footing > with > > proper reasoning again from the view point of KAS. > > > > > > > > There might be many ways and systems dealing each in their own way > to > > decipher an event or approach it, and KAS has its own way and > approach and > > also the students who are learning KAS will have a logical mind and > an > > approach as this system is based on scientific calculations. > > > > > > > > Now you talked of Kalpurush chart and in KAS we consider them first > and we > > called them Natural KARAK's and the status of that is given a lot of > > importance so such things are also considered in the basic fabric > of KAS in > > its approach. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, what Prasanna mentioned is correct about the classification of > the > > event i.e is it a day to day event or is it a big major one time > life event > > or events that don't happen too often. > > > > > > > > For example death is a one time and most important event of life or > when say > > one buys a house or a car, now these might be for most of the > genral Janta > > some big events that do not happen too often in life, v/s timing > when one > > will eat their food or when some guest will arrive at your home. > > > > > > > > So there is a definite classification and categorization of such > events and > > one must be mindful of that as well. > > > > > > > > Now take an example of a Job, then for that Natal chart is > important and one > > can study the relevant house and come to a prediction based on the > WS and > > the KAS technique, but if one person has given an interview and > then coming > > in few days and asking, I have given such and such an interview now > will the > > result be favorable, then to answer such question you might have to > study > > the Natal chart and take help of Prashna. Yes, you can also get > idea from > > the Natal chart by studying the daily points and that will give a > reflection > > as well. > > > > > > > > Ok, these were my thoughts on some of the emails that I have penned > down. > > It might be a repetition of things that I have already said in my > various > > mails over time and some related to some questions. > > > > > > > > I am out of time... still so much more to write.. > > > > > > > > Take care > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http:// www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of > prasanna_1978 > > Sunday November 18, 2007 11:20 AM > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > Re: Chart Analysis > > > > > > > > Dear Anup, > > > > 7th house is aragla for 6th house -for money point of view it is > > dhana aragla (so it is money for satru)-so this is reason may be > Mr. > > Krishna ji mentioned theft from 7th house. > > Same is applicable for disease, disease point of view it is > permanent > > scar -may be accident(second house refer permanent disease),that's > > Mr.Krishna Ji mentioned accident. > > Some time having good points in 6th house is curing how? it is > based > > on what part of body is affected based on kalapursha of the > house,it > > is 11th or 5th from parts of body 6th house will give good result. > > But my experience 6th house with more points giving diseases (I > > checked only limited charts),for accident I did not try with KAS. > > > > I hope my limited knowledge I explained. > > > > Regards > > Prasanna.G > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > " Anup. > > M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Parsanna, > > > > > > Sorry to interfere but want to add few words,i read in archives. > > > > > > If for 7th house a planet is with less points,it can give > > accident. > > > If this planet is with good points for 6th so the native will be > > cured. > > > And in 8th house if this is weak, so no fear for giving any bad > > result. > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prasanna_1978 <prasanna_1978@> wrote: > > > Dear Ramesh > > > > > > I try to explain in KAS way please forgive me if any wrong in my > > > attempt I m not expert in KAS system.as mentioned by Sandy next > day > > > he discharged from hospital and due to stress he got disease, > this > > > only passing clouds disease may be one day or two days it will be > > > cured. > > > > > > Small analogy- 6th house is satru stana as per theory, D and E > lord > > > give good thing, to whom? To the house right that? means satru - > > bad > > > for native-so 6th house highest point will give disease if same > > > planet highest point in 8th house it will give chronic disease > > > > > > For day to day activities (small activities) check PDF instead of > > AD. > > > PDF Venus-Mars running at the time of incident Venus is highest > > score > > > of 6th house and less score in 8thhouse so it is not chronic only > > > some problem in the health-Refer Mr.ASH mail to Sameer (15860). > > > Venus -Mars -highest point of 1st house,3rd house (3rd house > chest - > > > non cardiac problem not 4th house -heart)-Refer Paladeepika thats > > > why I mentioned Gemini rules chest not heart . > > > > > > I understood you question kindly check Mr. Ash mail reply to Mr. > > > Sameer (15860) I hope you understand clear. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Prasanna.G > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Prasanna.G > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > ramesh mishra > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sudhir, Sandy, Prasanna and all, > > > > No , it is still something wrong somewhere. > > > > Whether you take AST +4 with no DST or EST +5 with Yes DST, the > > > asc will be 25 Le 17. I am getting KAS ayanamsa as 22:35:46 and > not > > > as 22:10:18. > > > > This difference in ayanamsa may change the planets longitudes > > > but it does not reflect here. Why ? > > > > For the verification of birth time I re-checked the date of > > > marriage with antara lord. > > > > The native married in Me antara (third sector ) of Me main. > > > > Me is in house E with 4 bindus. Me is one of the significator > for > > > 7th house. > > > > Me may give the event for 7th house matter. > > > > Now come to the point of the birth of his Son. > > > > Son was born on 4 Nov 2005 when Ke antara was passing through. > > > > Ke is SD to Me ,LoD for 5th. > > > > Daughter was born on 15 May 2007 when second sector of Ve > antara > > > was running. > > > > Ve is LoE for 5th. > > > > There is no delay by Sa for the matter of 5th so the event took > > > place in first sector. > > > > Let us examine his event of building his own house in 2002. > > > > The dasa and antara running was Sa- Ju. > > > > Ju is LoC for 4th, LoE for 12th and LoD for 11th. > > > > Ju is strong in all these houses in WS.. > > > > But the point in 12th should have been more than that of 11th > > > instead it is less. > > > > Let me examine the event which took place on 17 Oct 2007 during > > > second sector of Ve antara of Me main. > > > > Ve is strong in all houses in WS. > > > > Ve is LoD for 1st and 6th. > > > > As per KAS theory LoD and LoE always give good results. > > > > Death is considered as a good event but hospitalisation and > > > sickness may not be considered a good event. > > > > For the matter of 1st (SELF) house the significators are Su and > > > Ju. > > > > The FK is Ju who is in 6th house of disease and this 6th is LoE > > > for 1st. > > > > LoE is Sa. Ve antara is NSD to Sa. > > > > Me is NK and Sa is FK for 4th house of chest. > > > > This karak occupy 12th house of hospital and aspected by the FK > > > of self from the house of disease. > > > > The karak for 6th is strongly posited in karaksthann of 4th. > > > > Su is strongly afflicted by Ma, Sa and Ra so the chest pain. > > > > I want to ask that for the timing of Ve antara for the matter > of > > > 1st, 6th and 12th the points in WS should have been less than 12 > > > points. > > > > Otherwise we may assume that good events will be given by Ve or > > > for whom it is SD being LoD and LoE. > > > > Hope you understand my query. > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > Sudhir <taurus.sudhir@> wrote: > > > > Thanks Sandy, Its OK now > > > > > > > > Is MD, .....Maryland ? > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Sudhir > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11/18/07, Sandy Crowther <sandycrowther@> > > > wrote: Dear Ramesh, Prasanna, and Sudhir, > > > > Popped in for a moment tonight and saw the confusion going > > > on...Here's the chart you are referencing. Please note the > correct > > > data input for the KAS Worksheet. Eastern Daylight Time was in > > > effect, making it Eastern Standard Time on the Worksheet, with 1 > > hour > > > DST in effect. > > > > Hope this helps clear the confusion. > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Sandy > > > > > > > > NAME: PLACE: Annapolis > > > MD BIRTHDATE: 22-Jun-1943 Time Zone: EST > > > +05:00 TIME: 12:3 DST: Yes Latitude: > > > 38 N 58 KAS AYANAMSA: 22:10:18 Longitude: 76 > > > W > > > 29 > > > > > > Rasi- NATAL CHART 4 Navamsa - SPOUSE > > > D9 8 > > > 33 9 30 10 32 11 26 5 29 6 27 7 > > > 26 8 30 Ma Me Sa Su Ma > > > Me 7 24 12 25 4 > > > 27 9 26 Mo Bitmap > > > D Ju Ve Ra Ve Ra A > > > B Natal Divisional 6 32 1 > > > 23 3 33 Chart 10 23 Ke E > > > C Asc Ju Sa Ke > > > > 5 33 4 26 3 > > > 27 2 26 2 29 1 22 12 34 11 > > > 31 Su Mo > > > Asc > > > > > > ASHTARKAVARGA POWER DIVISIONAL CHART > > > DETAILS TRANSIT CHART > > > (SOUTH) NATAL Bitmap SU MO MA ME JU > > > VE SA BINDUS 5 3 > > > 4 7 3 4 4 TRANSIT DATE IS: 17-Nov- > > > 07 > > > > > > NATAL CHART DATA NATAL DASA > > > SUMMARY > > > > > > Planet Degrees Nakshatra Lord Navamsa Mahadasa Start > > > To > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > [Message clipped] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Save all your chat conversations. 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Guest guest Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Dear Prasanna, 6th house as B then 3rd and 11th lords are LoD and LoE and they are eager to give result of 6th house. 6th house is upachaya from 1st house. Infact 1st house is Karak sthan for 6th house. As as analogy, a person with good individuality (1st house) can have good status or can take up better job. More power in 6th house can give good recovery from illness and not the other way as you have indicated. A good way to think is that high points means good in the WS. It means more combined bindu strength is there and a bindu is a BENEFIC point means a good yog. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of prasanna_1978 Sunday November 18, 2007 6:31 AM Subject: Re: Chart Analysis Dear Ramesh I try to explain in KAS way please forgive me if any wrong in my attempt I m not expert in KAS system.as mentioned by Sandy next day he discharged from hospital and due to stress he got disease, this only passing clouds disease may be one day or two days it will be cured. Small analogy- 6th house is satru stana as per theory, D and E lord give good thing, to whom? To the house right that? means satru - bad for native–so 6th house highest point will give disease if same planet highest point in 8th house it will give chronic disease For day to day activities (small activities) check PDF instead of AD. PDF Venus-Mars running at the time of incident Venus is highest score of 6th house and less score in 8thhouse so it is not chronic only some problem in the health-Refer Mr.ASH mail to Sameer (15860). Venus –Mars –highest point of 1st house,3rd house (3rd house chest – non cardiac problem not 4th house -heart)-Refer Paladeepika thats why I mentioned Gemini rules chest not heart . I understood you question kindly check Mr. Ash mail reply to Mr. Sameer (15860) I hope you understand clear. Regards Prasanna.G Regards Prasanna.G , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Dear Sudhir, Sandy, Prasanna and all, > No , it is still something wrong somewhere. > Whether you take AST +4 with no DST or EST +5 with Yes DST, the asc will be 25 Le 17. I am getting KAS ayanamsa as 22:35:46 and not as 22:10:18. > This difference in ayanamsa may change the planets longitudes but it does not reflect here. Why ? > For the verification of birth time I re-checked the date of marriage with antara lord. > The native married in Me antara (third sector ) of Me main. > Me is in house E with 4 bindus. Me is one of the significator for 7th house. > Me may give the event for 7th house matter. > Now come to the point of the birth of his Son. > Son was born on 4 Nov 2005 when Ke antara was passing through. > Ke is SD to Me ,LoD for 5th. > Daughter was born on 15 May 2007 when second sector of Ve antara was running. > Ve is LoE for 5th. > There is no delay by Sa for the matter of 5th so the event took place in first sector. > Let us examine his event of building his own house in 2002. > The dasa and antara running was Sa- Ju. > Ju is LoC for 4th, LoE for 12th and LoD for 11th. > Ju is strong in all these houses in WS.. > But the point in 12th should have been more than that of 11th instead it is less. > Let me examine the event which took place on 17 Oct 2007 during second sector of Ve antara of Me main. > Ve is strong in all houses in WS. > Ve is LoD for 1st and 6th. > As per KAS theory LoD and LoE always give good results. > Death is considered as a good event but hospitalisation and sickness may not be considered a good event. > For the matter of 1st (SELF) house the significators are Su and Ju. > The FK is Ju who is in 6th house of disease and this 6th is LoE for 1st. > LoE is Sa. Ve antara is NSD to Sa. > Me is NK and Sa is FK for 4th house of chest. > This karak occupy 12th house of hospital and aspected by the FK of self from the house of disease. > The karak for 6th is strongly posited in karaksthann of 4th. > Su is strongly afflicted by Ma, Sa and Ra so the chest pain. > I want to ask that for the timing of Ve antara for the matter of 1st, 6th and 12th the points in WS should have been less than 12 points. > Otherwise we may assume that good events will be given by Ve or for whom it is SD being LoD and LoE. > Hope you understand my query. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > Sudhir <taurus.sudhir wrote: > Thanks Sandy, Its OK now > > Is MD, .....Maryland ? > > Regards > Sudhir > > > On 11/18/07, Sandy Crowther <sandycrowther wrote: Dear Ramesh, Prasanna, and Sudhir, > Popped in for a moment tonight and saw the confusion going on...Here's the chart you are referencing. Please note the correct data input for the KAS Worksheet. Eastern Daylight Time was in effect, making it Eastern Standard Time on the Worksheet, with 1 hour DST in effect. > Hope this helps clear the confusion. > Warm regards, > Sandy > > NAME: PLACE: Annapolis MD BIRTHDATE: 22-Jun-1943 Time Zone: EST +05:00 TIME: 12:3 DST: Yes Latitude: 38 N 58 KAS AYANAMSA: 22:10:18 Longitude: 76 W 29 Rasi- NATAL CHART 4 Navamsa - SPOUSE D9 8 33 9 30 10 32 11 26 5 29 6 27 7 26 8 30 Ma Me Sa Su Ma Me 7 24 12 25 4 27 9 26 Mo Bitmap D Ju Ve Ra Ve Ra A B Natal Divisional 6 32 1 23 3 33 Chart 10 23 Ke E C Asc Ju Sa Ke > 5 33 4 26 3 27 2 26 2 29 1 22 12 34 11 31 Su Mo Asc ASHTARKAVARGA POWER DIVISIONAL CHART DETAILS TRANSIT CHART (SOUTH) NATAL Bitmap SU MO MA ME JU VE SA BINDUS 5 3 4 7 3 4 4 TRANSIT DATE IS: 17-Nov- 07 NATAL CHART DATA NATAL DASA SUMMARY Planet Degrees Nakshatra Lord Navamsa Mahadasa Start To > > > > > > > ... > > [Message clipped] > > > > > > > > Save all your chat conversations. 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Guest guest Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Dear Prasanna, My replies below yours. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of prasanna_1978 Monday November 19, 2007 7:10 AM Re: Chart Analysis || OM NAMO NARAYANA|| Dear Ash, Thanks for your mail and I appreciate your more knowledge in the system,im sorry and feeling im killing your time for answering my questions. Find below my comments, this only for educational point of view not augmenting base -for getting more information and knowledge in KAS –Please take your own time and reply t say you reply fast when you find time you can answer back- once again sorry for killing your busy schedule. ASH :- 7th house is that for accident. 7th is opposite party from 1st who is self. We do not use Argala and things like that in KAS. In KAS all such things are already considered indirectly, but for that you must keep a clean slate and not mix systems. KAS has a particular way and an approach to solve charts. As per VA, 7th and 2nd house are called Marak Sthan and as per KAS we are giving this with proper reasoning that 7th house is that of Accident (NOT DEATH) and House A is 2nd house so that is the KARAK sthan for 7th house. PRASANNA:-AS PER VA 2 AND 7TH HOUSES ONLY FOR KILLER HOUSE WE USE FOR ONLY TIMING OF EVENTS IT IS NOT RELATING TO LENGTH OF LIFE – LONGEVITY ,IT IS CONTROLLED BY 8TH HOUSE AND 3RD HOUSE ONLY,NOT 2ND AND 7TH HOUSE,EVEN WHEN WE CALCULATE LENGTH OF LIFE WE ARE NOT CONSIDERING 2 AND 7TH HOUSE. Ash : Ok. Then why are u calling 2nd and 7th house Maraka house? What is the meaning of Killer house? Please explain. Is Killer house same as death house? What is the difference? 3RD HOUSE IS 8TH FROM 8TH SO BHAVAT BHAVAM CONCEPT –IT MEANS IT MANIFESTATION OF HOUSE SO 12TH FROM THAT SAGES ARE USING FOR TIMING OF EVENTS. Ash: 3rd house is, 8th from 8th yes, agreed. It means that 3rd house is Karak sthan for 8th house. 3rd house controls the status of result of House B. I did not understand what you meant by manifestation of a house? AS PER KAS C HOUSE IS QUALITY MY CONCEPT B HOUSE IS QUANTITY SO 8TH HOUSE QUANTITY OF LIFE Ash : House C is called the phalit sthan. Sequence is Karak Sthan i..e 8th from B = A Phal sthan i.e House B or house under focus Phalit Sthan i.e .House C or u can think of it like the next generation of it. For example, 1st house is SELF, Karak is 8th house and next generation would be a child so 5th house. 2nd house as B so lets say wealth, so Karak sthan would be 9th house so fortune and blessings, and House C is 6th house so it means good social status. Mostly u will find that a wealthy person has good social status, banks give loans easily, etc etc. So like that for you can apply it for all of the 12 houses. Actually Donna has created some nice visuals that you can refer to so that you can nail this concept in. ONE MAIL I READ FROM MR.KRSHNA JI 8TH HOUSE POINT ALL GOOD IT WILL GIVE BALARSITA OR LONGEVITY IS VERY LOW,I WORKED WITH BALARISTA CHART IT IS 100% WORKING BUT IF NOT FOLLOW VA CONCEPT LIKE OVERRIDERS IT IS NOT WORKING (SAY EXAMPLE EVEN THOUGH 8TH HOUSE POINTS ALL GOOD JUPITER IN LAGNA IT IS NOT KILLING -THIS ONLY MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE ),WHY I STATED WITHOUT VA CONCEPTS IF WE USE KAS MAY BE WE ARE MISSING SOME WHERE. I KNOW WE DONT HAVE LESSON ON LONGIVITY MAY BE AFTER HE TEACH I MAY UNDERSTAND FULLY. Ash : Death topic has not been covered. It’s the most complex and still there are things yet to be covered. So Whatever Krushanji is given u can treat is as guideline just as you have done and see it it matches on charts, again which is what you have done. So you are doing well. Another thing to keep in mind is that when planets aspect House A , B or C they will not give the result as per KAS. Their SD’s might step in. This is our first basic law. Ash:-Now Prasanna, think over it logically. 7th house is that of dincharya or day to day activity. Its 10th from 10th house which is that of Karma and authority. Now if there are low points in 7th house then that might affect the dincharya and so if there is an major accident then 7th house will get affected and person might have to change his or her day to day routine. Now take case of Heart Attack. Once a person gets a heart attack (Accident and 7th house is here) then his or her lifestyle has to be changed if one wants to prolong life. PRASANNA:-I AGREE WITH YOUR DINACHARYA CONCEPT IT VERY GOOD I DID NOT THINK IN THIS WAY, BUT MY QUESTION IS DINACHRAYA IS AFFECTED IT GIVE – HEALTH RELATED POINT OF VIEW -BIORTHTHUM OF HEALTH WILL AFFECT –YOU MEANS TO SAY THAT IT IS AN ACCIDENT -MAY BE DINACHARYA WILL AFFECT ISSUE-MAY BE DUE TO FASTING OR NON AVAILABLITIY OF TIME IT COULD HAPPEN. REMAINING POINTS WHICH YOU STATED 100% AGREE WITH YOU. Ash : I did not understand what you meant by Biorththum of health part. So I can’t comment. Maybe once I understand what is your chain of thought I can reply more specifically. Also remember that 7th house is the dhan sthan of 6th. I m not mixing up the other,but one time Mr.Kurshna Ji stated all VA principal will work with the system including yogas,I tried with many charts using Arudha and yogas it is perfectly working with timing Ash : Yes, one has to know and understand VA first and then can use this system to time events. If you keenly follow the BAV for each planet and see how its making benefic yogs or bindus in reference to other planets and lagna, I think all yogas and their contras get covered. You do not have to study each one separately. Yes, special things like Ju in libra or Ve in krittika and nak of sun, ve to sun distance etc these spcial yogs are not given in any books but preserved with Krushnaji. That you can test on any charts. (I'm leaving to India for vacation after I come from India I will post my research study regarding arudha with KAS)-This is first system in my experience working perfectly in timings of event very accurately. Ash : Keep practicing and keep posting your question and queries on the list. Your questions might help many others also understand. Thanks and Regards Prasanna.G , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Prasanna and List members, > > > > I just came to the site and taking a short break and I read a few mails so I > am just penning some thoughts that I read in some emails all bundled into > this email. > > > > > > 7th house is that for accident. 7th is opposite party from 1st who is self. > We do not use Argala and things like that in KAS. In KAS all such things > are already considered indirectly, but for that you must keep a clean slate > and not mix systems. > > KAS has a particular way and an approach to solve charts. > > > > Now 6th house as per KAS is like a black hole and the lord of 6th house is > malefic. 6th house is also that of stomach and that's the root of all > illness and disease. 6th house is that of enmity and 7th house is that of > accident. > > As per VA, 7th and 2nd house are called Marak Sthan and as per KAS we are > giving this with proper reasoning that 7th house is that of Accident (NOT > DEATH) and House A is 2nd house so that is the KARAK sthan for 7th house. > > > > What Krushnaji has given in lessons, if read with concentration will solve > so many of the riddles of VA and with proper and concrete reasoning using > the theory of KAS. > > > > Now Prasanna, think over it logically. 7th house is that of dincharya or > day to day activity. Its 10th from 10th house which is that of Karma and > authority. Now if there are low points in 7th house then that might affect > the dincharya and so if there is an major accident then 7th house will get > affected and person might have to change his or her day to day routine. Now > take case of Heart Attack. Once a person gets a heart attack (Accident and > 7th house is here) then his or her lifestyle has to be changed if one wants > to prolong life. > > > > 2nd house is the Karak for 7th house and that controls the quality of result > of 7th house. So in VA this might have been called MARAK meaning " Killer " > in the literal sense, however as per KAS, death is from 8th house and > accident can be seen from 7th house. > > > > Now if MD is related to 2nd and 3rd and AD is powerful for 8th and less for > 7th and even less for 6th house then the person might die as a result of > accident during that particular MD and Antra and since 6th house power is > less then the person might be able to recover from the accident. > > > > 6th house is upachaya sthan for 1st house. 1st house and that of SELF is > KARAK for 6th house. So 1st house is important for 6th house and for 1st > house 6th is E and for 6th house 1st house is A. House C is 10th house. > > > > 6th house, if its weak i.e if points are weak in the WS the then native > might face problems regarding 6th house matters and one of the things > represented by 6th house is health. Now in some MD a person might face more > problems w.r.t job and in other MD the native might face more problems > related to health. > > > > However, now 3rd and 11th lords are D and E for 6th house so in their antra, > the person might have good results of 6th house so u can say that if a > person is sick he might get a good boost to recover or maybe his ailment > might be diagnosed properly in antra of such lord and proper corrective > action might be prescribed or maybe the native might come across a new drug > that might cause better recovery or things of such sort. > > > > So here as per KAS, we are teaching you to think more logically and I am > sure that once u know the root reason or think logically you will have > better confidence in your predictions. > > > > Even, diagnosis of ailments, for that one must have good medical knowledge > to understand that say if Venus is badly spoilt then that over time might > lead to severe problems with liver or diabetes or certain laws of VA that Sa > with 6th lord in 3rd house might make one prone to asthama or breathing > related problems and things like that. So for that u must go into detail > and study each planet from all angles and should have proper and sound > understanding of what might cause a particular illness. If a person is > facing more problems with stomach then 6th house, 1st house, sun etc play a > role and exactly how is what one can understand. > > > > The medical portion of KAS is yet to be taught by Krushnaji and maybe he > want to teach other lessons first before we go into the depths of the > application of KAS in fields like Prashna, Medical Astrology, the micro > astrology portion, Vastu portion, Mundane and event o Nadi level. For that > we must first get the portion taught and the technique well engrained in our > minds so that when you go into the application, you will venture into it > with a good and strong foundation and with a mindset that is logical and > based on concrete footing. > > > > Now Prasanna raised a question about having a permanent scar. Now is that > an accident? Say how is that different from a person loosing his hand or > leg in a accident? How would u judge what is accident? So here do u go by > whats in the good books or u start to use your logic and reasoning and go to > the very basis that 7th house deals with Dincharya. 1st is SELF and 7th is > Opposite of that. So something that can affect a dincharya might be > " termed " as an accident. > > > > So a permenant scar, say on a hand, that heals, v/s a scar or an infection > that might get infected by gangarine and have to be operated on and removed? > So would that be an accident? > > > > So here its very important that one must think logically and go back to the > basics to understand what it means. > > > > So why is 7th and 2nd house called maraks by our seers? What were they > thinking when they might have said that? Did they mean that u study DEATH > from 7th and 2nd house ? then what is the use of 8th house for death and > 3rd as the karak? > > > > Now, study this from the view point of KAS and then u will get some answers, > now I don't say that u might get all the answers though I personally believe > you can get it in due course of time and as the understanding increase in > time, but in KAS we are dealing with things on a concrete footing with > proper reasoning again from the view point of KAS. > > > > There might be many ways and systems dealing each in their own way to > decipher an event or approach it, and KAS has its own way and approach and > also the students who are learning KAS will have a logical mind and an > approach as this system is based on scientific calculations. > > > > Now you talked of Kalpurush chart and in KAS we consider them first and we > called them Natural KARAK's and the status of that is given a lot of > importance so such things are also considered in the basic fabric of KAS in > its approach. > > > > > > Yes, what Prasanna mentioned is correct about the classification of the > event i.e is it a day to day event or is it a big major one time life event > or events that don't happen too often. > > > > For example death is a one time and most important event of life or when say > one buys a house or a car, now these might be for most of the genral Janta > some big events that do not happen too often in life, v/s timing when one > will eat their food or when some guest will arrive at your home. > > > > So there is a definite classification and categorization of such events and > one must be mindful of that as well. > > > > Now take an example of a Job, then for that Natal chart is important and one > can study the relevant house and come to a prediction based on the WS and > the KAS technique, but if one person has given an interview and then coming > in few days and asking, I have given such and such an interview now will the > result be favorable, then to answer such question you might have to study > the Natal chart and take help of Prashna. Yes, you can also get idea from > the Natal chart by studying the daily points and that will give a reflection > as well. > > > > Ok, these were my thoughts on some of the emails that I have penned down. > It might be a repetition of things that I have already said in my various > mails over time and some related to some questions. > > > > I am out of time... still so much more to write.. > > > > Take care > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of prasanna_1978 > Sunday November 18, 2007 11:20 AM > > Re: Chart Analysis > > > > Dear Anup, > > 7th house is aragla for 6th house -for money point of view it is > dhana aragla (so it is money for satru)-so this is reason may be Mr. > Krishna ji mentioned theft from 7th house. > Same is applicable for disease, disease point of view it is permanent > scar -may be accident(second house refer permanent disease),that's > Mr.Krishna Ji mentioned accident. > Some time having good points in 6th house is curing how? it is based > on what part of body is affected based on kalapursha of the house,it > is 11th or 5th from parts of body 6th house will give good result. > But my experience 6th house with more points giving diseases (I > checked only limited charts),for accident I did not try with KAS. > > I hope my limited knowledge I explained. > > Regards > Prasanna.G > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " Anup. > M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Parsanna, > > > > Sorry to interfere but want to add few words,i read in archives. > > > > If for 7th house a planet is with less points,it can give > accident. > > If this planet is with good points for 6th so the native will be > cured. > > And in 8th house if this is weak, so no fear for giving any bad > result. > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prasanna_1978 <prasanna_1978@> wrote: > > Dear Ramesh > > > > I try to explain in KAS way please forgive me if any wrong in my > > attempt I m not expert in KAS system.as mentioned by Sandy next day > > he discharged from hospital and due to stress he got disease, this > > only passing clouds disease may be one day or two days it will be > > cured. > > > > Small analogy- 6th house is satru stana as per theory, D and E lord > > give good thing, to whom? To the house right that? means satru - > bad > > for native-so 6th house highest point will give disease if same > > planet highest point in 8th house it will give chronic disease > > > > For day to day activities (small activities) check PDF instead of > AD. > > PDF Venus-Mars running at the time of incident Venus is highest > score > > of 6th house and less score in 8thhouse so it is not chronic only > > some problem in the health-Refer Mr.ASH mail to Sameer (15860). > > Venus -Mars -highest point of 1st house,3rd house (3rd house chest - > > non cardiac problem not 4th house -heart)-Refer Paladeepika thats > > why I mentioned Gemini rules chest not heart . > > > > I understood you question kindly check Mr. Ash mail reply to Mr. > > Sameer (15860) I hope you understand clear. > > > > Regards > > > > Prasanna.G > > > > Regards > > > > Prasanna.G > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > ramesh mishra > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sudhir, Sandy, Prasanna and all, > > > No , it is still something wrong somewhere. > > > Whether you take AST +4 with no DST or EST +5 with Yes DST, the > > asc will be 25 Le 17. I am getting KAS ayanamsa as 22:35:46 and not > > as 22:10:18. > > > This difference in ayanamsa may change the planets longitudes > > but it does not reflect here. Why ? > > > For the verification of birth time I re-checked the date of > > marriage with antara lord. > > > The native married in Me antara (third sector ) of Me main. > > > Me is in house E with 4 bindus. Me is one of the significator for > > 7th house. > > > Me may give the event for 7th house matter. > > > Now come to the point of the birth of his Son. > > > Son was born on 4 Nov 2005 when Ke antara was passing through. > > > Ke is SD to Me ,LoD for 5th. > > > Daughter was born on 15 May 2007 when second sector of Ve antara > > was running. > > > Ve is LoE for 5th. > > > There is no delay by Sa for the matter of 5th so the event took > > place in first sector. > > > Let us examine his event of building his own house in 2002. > > > The dasa and antara running was Sa- Ju. > > > Ju is LoC for 4th, LoE for 12th and LoD for 11th. > > > Ju is strong in all these houses in WS.. > > > But the point in 12th should have been more than that of 11th > > instead it is less. > > > Let me examine the event which took place on 17 Oct 2007 during > > second sector of Ve antara of Me main. > > > Ve is strong in all houses in WS. > > > Ve is LoD for 1st and 6th. > > > As per KAS theory LoD and LoE always give good results. > > > Death is considered as a good event but hospitalisation and > > sickness may not be considered a good event. > > > For the matter of 1st (SELF) house the significators are Su and > > Ju. > > > The FK is Ju who is in 6th house of disease and this 6th is LoE > > for 1st. > > > LoE is Sa. Ve antara is NSD to Sa. > > > Me is NK and Sa is FK for 4th house of chest. > > > This karak occupy 12th house of hospital and aspected by the FK > > of self from the house of disease. > > > The karak for 6th is strongly posited in karaksthann of 4th. > > > Su is strongly afflicted by Ma, Sa and Ra so the chest pain. > > > I want to ask that for the timing of Ve antara for the matter of > > 1st, 6th and 12th the points in WS should have been less than 12 > > points. > > > Otherwise we may assume that good events will be given by Ve or > > for whom it is SD being LoD and LoE. > > > Hope you understand my query. > > > Thanks and regards. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > Sudhir <taurus.sudhir@> wrote: > > > Thanks Sandy, Its OK now > > > > > > Is MD, .....Maryland ? > > > > > > Regards > > > Sudhir > > > > > > > > > On 11/18/07, Sandy Crowther <sandycrowther@> > > wrote: Dear Ramesh, Prasanna, and Sudhir, > > > Popped in for a moment tonight and saw the confusion going > > on...Here's the chart you are referencing. Please note the correct > > data input for the KAS Worksheet. Eastern Daylight Time was in > > effect, making it Eastern Standard Time on the Worksheet, with 1 > hour > > DST in effect. > > > Hope this helps clear the confusion. > > > Warm regards, > > > Sandy > > > > > > NAME: PLACE: Annapolis > > MD BIRTHDATE: 22-Jun-1943 Time Zone: EST > > +05:00 TIME: 12:3 DST: Yes Latitude: > > 38 N 58 KAS AYANAMSA: 22:10:18 Longitude: 76 > > W > > 29 > > > > Rasi- NATAL CHART 4 Navamsa - SPOUSE > > D9 8 > > 33 9 30 10 32 11 26 5 29 6 27 7 > > 26 8 30 Ma Me Sa Su Ma > > Me 7 24 12 25 4 > > 27 9 26 Mo Bitmap > > D Ju Ve Ra Ve Ra A > > B Natal Divisional 6 32 1 > > 23 3 33 Chart 10 23 Ke E > > C Asc Ju Sa Ke > > > 5 33 4 26 3 > > 27 2 26 2 29 1 22 12 34 11 > > 31 Su Mo > > Asc > > > > ASHTARKAVARGA POWER DIVISIONAL CHART > > DETAILS TRANSIT CHART > > (SOUTH) NATAL Bitmap SU MO MA ME JU > > VE SA BINDUS 5 3 > > 4 7 3 4 4 TRANSIT DATE IS: 17-Nov- > > 07 > > > > NATAL CHART DATA NATAL DASA > > SUMMARY > > > > Planet Degrees Nakshatra Lord Navamsa Mahadasa Start > > To > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > [Message clipped] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Save all your chat conversations. 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Guest guest Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 You are hard worker:- 1) 9 'th and 10'th lord in 8 th house and also in close yuti. 2) La lord Ju in 10'th house. 3) 3 'rd house is having Ra. But fortunes are week and you dont get recognition easily. Sa debiliated in fifth and its dispositor 8'th to that house and in 12'th house. and Ke in 9'th house. Next to next month you can get promoted. Best of Luck. Regs Andrew --- On Fri, 6/6/08, VENKATESH <s_venkateshhari wrote: VENKATESH <s_venkateshhari [vedic astrology] CHART ANALYSIS vedic astrology Friday, June 6, 2008, 9:58 AM Can you please help on my query. I have been working for the past 16 years and for the past 6 years I an in a reputed private equity firm. Though my careeer has improved drastically over the past 4 years, I am not getting my dues as per my performance, viz. no promotion, etc. Will i ever be promoted as a Manager or not. Born on 26th July 1969 at Bangalore Time 5.30 p.m. Ascendant - Saggitarius (14° 16' 27 " ) Moon (02° 24' 32 " ) in first house, Rahu (28° 50' 01 " ) in third house (Kumbha), Saturn (14° 56' 18 " ) in fifth house (Aries), Shukra (Vrushabha) (27° 50' 56 " ) in sixth house Surya (09° 51' 29 " ) in eight house with Budha (14° 15' 06 " ) in eight house (Cancer), Ketu (28° 50' 01 " ) in 9th house (Leo) Guru in tenth house Kanya (08° 09' 52 " ) and Kuja (10° 28' 24 " ) in 12th house, (Scorpio). IN Navamsa Lagna is Leo Saturn in it Second house is Kanya Saturn and Venus in it third house Thula Mars in it fourth Scropio with Jupiter and Mercury in it 5th house Saggitaritus with Ketu in it 10th house in Vrushaba Moon in it and 11th house has Rahu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 Dear Narchie, Distance between Sun and Venus,if more than 42deg shows Ven is out of control.Sat aspects venus means enhancing qulaities of Ven. This can effect timing of event if i am not wrong. In your chart,there is neither Sat or Jup delay. Karka,Mars is in 12th from its own house and being opposed by Ven though remaining FSD. Regards Anup --- On Wed, 6/11/08, narchie12345 <niketalaheri wrote: narchie12345 <niketalaheri chart analysis Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 8:11 AM Hi everyone,I have been a member of this group for a few months now. I had downloaded the files and lessons and tried to learn from it. I have made an attempt to use the worksheet to study my chart.Birth details are as follows : Sep 15th 1980. 10:00 am, Mahuva (71 E 48' and 21 N 05'), India.asc :Libra - 16 degree 32'.I used the planetary strength worksheet to find the timing of marriage. I got 12 points for Mars,13 points for sun, 18 points for mercury, moon and saturn. But as Mars and saturn aspect the house B, the event can give result either in the sub period of mercury or moon. Also Rahu is located in the 10th house in cancer (lord moon) and in the constellation of mercury, so rahu sub period can also give result. Can someone please check my analysis and give their opinion? Also, the other thing I noticed in my chart is the distance of Venus from Sun which is 44 degrees and 34' and saturn aspects venus in the navamsa chart but not in the rashi chart. would this affect the timing?thanksnima. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 Thanks for the comments Anup. But can you or someone elaborate furthur on what this means! Does it mean that if venus is in the configuration as described, it will not give result of the sub periods? How do you calculate when the venus delay ends? If there has been a discussion on this on another post you could direct me to that aswell. Also, can you check my calculations per my earlier post? I want to check if I understood the method correctly. thank you, Nima , " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Narchie, > & nbsp; > Distance between Sun and Venus,if more than 42deg > shows Ven is out of control.Sat aspects venus means > enhancing qulaities & nbsp;of Ven. > This can effect timing of event if i am not wrong. > & nbsp; > In your chart,there is neither Sat or Jup delay. > Karka,Mars is in 12th from its own house and being > opposed by Ven though remaining FSD. > & nbsp; > & nbsp; > Regards > Anup > & nbsp; > & nbsp; > & nbsp; > & nbsp; > > > --- On Wed, 6/11/08, narchie12345 niketalaheri wrote: > > narchie12345 niketalaheri > chart analysis > > Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 8:11 AM Hi everyone, > > I have been a member of this group for a few months now. I had > downloaded the files and lessons and tried to learn from it. I have > made an attempt to use the worksheet to study my chart. > > Birth details are as follows : Sep 15th 1980. 10:00 am, Mahuva (71 E > 48' and 21 N 05'), India. > asc :Libra - 16 degree 32'. > > I used the planetary strength worksheet to find the timing of > marriage. I got 12 points for Mars,13 points for sun, 18 points for > mercury, moon and saturn. But as Mars and saturn aspect the house B, > the event can give result either in the sub period of mercury or moon. > Also Rahu is located in the 10th house in cancer (lord moon) and in > the constellation of mercury, so rahu sub period can also give result. > > Can someone please check my analysis and give their opinion? Also, the > other thing I noticed in my chart is the distance of Venus from Sun > which is 44 degrees and 34' and saturn aspects venus in the navamsa > chart but not in the rashi chart. would this affect the timing? > > thanks > nima. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 Dear Narchie, We don not consider any Venus delay in KAS. Ven is natural karka for 7th house. If Saturn aspect Venus,this enhances Venusian qualities of a person and if distance between sun and venus is more than 42 deg,this further signifies that a person may not be inclinded for earlly marriage,given other conditions are met. Regards Anup --- On Thu, 6/12/08, narchie12345 <niketalaheri wrote: narchie12345 <niketalaheri Re: chart analysis Date: Thursday, June 12, 2008, 1:28 AM Thanks for the comments Anup. But can you or someone elaborate furthur on what this means! Does it mean that if venus is in the configuration as described, it will not give result of the sub periods? How do you calculate when the venus delay ends? If there has been a discussion on this on another post you could direct me to that aswell. Also, can you check my calculations per my earlier post? I want to check if I understood the method correctly.thank you,Nima astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote:>> Dear Narchie,> & nbsp;> Distance between Sun and Venus,if more than 42deg> shows Ven is out of control.Sat aspects venus means> enhancing qulaities & nbsp; of Ven.> This can effect timing of event if i am not wrong.> & nbsp;> In your chart,there is neither Sat or Jup delay.> Karka,Mars is in 12th from its own house and being> opposed by Ven though remaining FSD.> & nbsp;> & nbsp;> Regards> Anup> & nbsp;> & nbsp;> & nbsp;> & nbsp;> > > --- On Wed, 6/11/08, narchie12345 niketalaheri@ ... wrote:> > narchie12345 niketalaheri@ ...> [astrologyandtiming events] chart analysis> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 8:11 AM> > > > > > > Hi everyone,> > I have been a member of this group for a few months now. I had > downloaded the files and lessons and tried to learn from it. I have > made an attempt to use the worksheet to study my chart.> > Birth details are as follows : Sep 15th 1980. 10:00 am, Mahuva (71 E > 48' and 21 N 05'), India.> asc :Libra - 16 degree 32'.> > I used the planetary strength worksheet to find the timing of > marriage. I got 12 points for Mars,13 points for sun, 18 points for > mercury, moon and saturn. But as Mars and saturn aspect the house B, > the event can give result either in the sub period of mercury or moon. > Also Rahu is located in the 10th house in cancer (lord moon) and in > the constellation of mercury, so rahu sub period can also give result. > > Can someone please check my analysis and give their opinion? Also, the > other thing I noticed in my chart is the distance of Venus from Sun > which is 44 degrees and 34' and saturn aspects venus in the navamsa > chart but not in the rashi chart. would this affect the timing?> > thanks> nima.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Thanks for the explanation Anup. Can you also please check my worksheet calculations? I want to figure out if I have understood the process correctly and will help me learn it better. thanks. Nima , " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Narchie, > & nbsp; > We don not consider any Venus delay in KAS. > Ven is natural karka for 7th house. > If & nbsp;Saturn aspect Venus,this enhances Venusian qualities > of a person and if distance between sun and venus is > more than 42 deg,this further signifies that a person may > not be & nbsp;inclinded for & nbsp;earlly marriage,given other conditions > are met. > & nbsp; > Regards > Anup > & nbsp; > & nbsp; > & nbsp; > > > --- On Thu, 6/12/08, narchie12345 niketalaheri wrote: > > narchie12345 niketalaheri > Re: chart analysis > > Thursday, June 12, 2008, 1:28 AM > Thanks for the comments Anup. But can you or someone elaborate > furthur on what this means! Does it mean that if venus is in the > configuration as described, it will not give result of the sub > periods? How do you calculate when the venus delay ends? If there has > been a discussion on this on another post you could direct me to that > aswell. Also, can you check my calculations per my earlier post? I > want to check if I understood the method correctly. > > thank you, > Nima > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " Anup. M " > dalh_1@ wrote: > & gt; > & gt; Dear Narchie, > & gt; & amp;nbsp; > & gt; Distance between Sun and Venus,if more than 42deg > & gt; shows Ven is out of control.Sat aspects venus means > & gt; enhancing qulaities & amp;nbsp; of Ven. > & gt; This can effect timing of event if i am not wrong. > & gt; & amp;nbsp; > & gt; In your chart,there is neither Sat or Jup delay. > & gt; Karka,Mars is in 12th from its own house and being > & gt; opposed by Ven though remaining FSD. > & gt; & amp;nbsp; > & gt; & amp;nbsp; > & gt; Regards > & gt; Anup > & gt; & amp;nbsp; > & gt; & amp;nbsp; > & gt; & amp;nbsp; > & gt; & amp;nbsp; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; --- On Wed, 6/11/08, narchie12345 niketalaheri@ ... wrote: > & gt; > & gt; narchie12345 niketalaheri@ ... > & gt; [astrologyandtiming events] chart analysis > & gt; astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > & gt; Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 8:11 AM > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; Hi everyone, > & gt; > & gt; I have been a member of this group for a few months now. I had > & gt; downloaded the files and lessons and tried to learn from it. I have > & gt; made an attempt to use the worksheet to study my chart. > & gt; > & gt; Birth details are as follows : Sep 15th 1980. 10:00 am, Mahuva (71 > E > & gt; 48' and 21 N 05'), India. > & gt; asc :Libra - 16 degree 32'. > & gt; > & gt; I used the planetary strength worksheet to find the timing of > & gt; marriage. I got 12 points for Mars,13 points for sun, 18 points for > & gt; mercury, moon and saturn. But as Mars and saturn aspect the house > B, > & gt; the event can give result either in the sub period of mercury or > moon. > & gt; Also Rahu is located in the 10th house in cancer (lord moon) and in > & gt; the constellation of mercury, so rahu sub period can also give > result. > & gt; > & gt; Can someone please check my analysis and give their opinion? Also, > the > & gt; other thing I noticed in my chart is the distance of Venus from Sun > & gt; which is 44 degrees and 34' and saturn aspects venus in the navamsa > & gt; chart but not in the rashi chart. would this affect the timing? > & gt; > & gt; thanks > & gt; nima. > & gt; > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 Dear Ash, Anup, Bala, Harjeet and lists, I am bringing a famous chart of a famous lady before you. This lady died on 31 Aug 1997 in a car accident in Paris. Now you might have understood who is this lady ? Her birth details is here. DOB 01 Jul 1961 TOB 19:45 hrs POB Sandrigham, England 52 N 50, 00 E 30 TZ 00:00 DST Yes. I casted this chart and got Asc. as 25 Sc 59. Please check up whether my asc is correct. The event happened in Sa main and Sa antara. The cause of death is accident so 7th house and 7th lord comes into role. The 7th lord is Ve in 7th house with benefic 5 bindus.His aspect on lagna is malefic with -5 bindus. The significators for 7th house is Ju, Ve and Me. Ju and Me are strong in WS for 7th house and Me is weak with 9 SAV points. The 12th lord for 7th is Ma who aspects lagna with malefic sight of -5 bindus Lod and LoE for 7th is Sa and Ve. Sa is in 12th from 4th house. Sa is also FK for 8th and aspects house 12th who is house C for 8th. Main lord Sa aspects house C. As per KAS rule if MD lord aspects any house A, B or C then death does not happen in this main period but its SD gives the event in main period. How Sa main give death ? Second point is antara of Sa is weak in WS for 8th with 10 SAV points. But for 7th house Sa is strong with 15 SAV points in WS. LoD and LoE for 8th is Ju and Ma respectively. Sa is of course SD to Ju. Ju is strong in WS with 18 points in 8th house. This Sa aspects 7th house in navamsa. Sa aspects Ju also in navamsa. My question is, "Can Sa/Sa may give the event of death" in this chart or this chart needs birth rectification. The event happened soon the antara of Sa started. Your precious suggestions is sought. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 Dear Ramesh, The birth time info may be inaccurate and real time is probably unknkown. Yogi karve who has a siddhi to see bith time had put the lagna as Kanya. I do not have the chart in front, but I recall we discussed this 11 years back and 8th lord mangal is conjuct rahu in the 12th house. Satish--- On Mon, 6/23/08, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 Re: Chart analysis"" Monday, June 23, 2008, 8:51 AM Dear Ash, Anup, Bala, Harjeet and lists, I am bringing a famous chart of a famous lady before you. This lady died on 31 Aug 1997 in a car accident in Paris. Now you might have understood who is this lady ? Her birth details is here. DOB 01 Jul 1961 TOB 19:45 hrs POB Sandrigham, England 52 N 50, 00 E 30 TZ 00:00 DST Yes. I casted this chart and got Asc. as 25 Sc 59. Please check up whether my asc is correct. The event happened in Sa main and Sa antara. The cause of death is accident so 7th house and 7th lord comes into role. The 7th lord is Ve in 7th house with benefic 5 bindus.His aspect on lagna is malefic with -5 bindus. The significators for 7th house is Ju, Ve and Me. Ju and Me are strong in WS for 7th house and Me is weak with 9 SAV points. The 12th lord for 7th is Ma who aspects lagna with malefic sight of -5 bindus Lod and LoE for 7th is Sa and Ve. Sa is in 12th from 4th house. Sa is also FK for 8th and aspects house 12th who is house C for 8th. Main lord Sa aspects house C. As per KAS rule if MD lord aspects any house A, B or C then death does not happen in this main period but its SD gives the event in main period. How Sa main give death ? Second point is antara of Sa is weak in WS for 8th with 10 SAV points. But for 7th house Sa is strong with 15 SAV points in WS. LoD and LoE for 8th is Ju and Ma respectively. Sa is of course SD to Ju. Ju is strong in WS with 18 points in 8th house. This Sa aspects 7th house in navamsa. Sa aspects Ju also in navamsa. My question is, "Can Sa/Sa may give the event of death" in this chart or this chart needs birth rectification. The event happened soon the antara of Sa started. Your precious suggestions is sought. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 Dear Ramesh, As far as Princess Diana is concerned the birth time is not available correctly. I have 2 different timings. One is 13:10 and Time Zone 0:00 hours. Another is 19:45 - the one you have given but the time zone is BST minus 1:00 Bala , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > > The birth time info may be inaccurate and real time is probably unknkown. Yogi karve who has a siddhi to see bith time had put the lagna as Kanya. I do not have the chart in front, but I recall we discussed this 11 years back and 8th lord mangal is conjuct rahu in the 12th house. > > Satish > > --- On Mon, 6/23/08, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 > Re: Chart analysis > " " > Monday, June 23, 2008, 8:51 AM > Dear Ash, Anup, Bala, Harjeet and lists, > I am bringing a famous chart of a famous lady before you. This lady died on 31 Aug 1997 in a car accident in Paris. > Now you might have understood who is this lady ? > Her birth details is here. > DOB 01 Jul 1961 TOB 19:45 hrs POB Sandrigham, England 52 N 50, 00 E 30 TZ 00:00 DST Yes. > I casted this chart and got Asc. as 25 Sc 59. Please check up whether my asc is correct. > The event happened in Sa main and Sa antara. > The cause of death is accident so 7th house and 7th lord comes into role. > The 7th lord is Ve in 7th house with benefic 5 bindus.His aspect on lagna is malefic with -5 bindus. > The significators for 7th house is Ju, Ve and Me. Ju and Me are strong in WS for 7th house and Me is weak with 9 SAV points. > The 12th lord for 7th is Ma who aspects lagna with malefic sight of -5 bindus > Lod and LoE for 7th is Sa and Ve. > Sa is in 12th from 4th house. Sa is also FK for 8th and aspects house 12th who is house C for 8th. > Main lord Sa aspects house C. As per KAS rule if MD lord aspects any house A, B or C then death does not happen in this main period but its SD gives the event in main period. > How Sa main give death ? > Second point is antara of Sa is weak in WS for 8th with 10 SAV points. > But for 7th house Sa is strong with 15 SAV points in WS. > LoD and LoE for 8th is Ju and Ma respectively. > Sa is of course SD to Ju. Ju is strong in WS with 18 points in 8th house. > This Sa aspects 7th house in navamsa. > Sa aspects Ju also in navamsa. > My question is, " Can Sa/Sa may give the event of death " in this chart or this chart needs birth rectification. > The event happened soon the antara of Sa started. > Your precious suggestions is sought. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 this has always been the issue. the debate has been between kanya or vrischik lagna. On 23-Jun-08, at 9:08 AM, Balasubramanian wrote:Dear Ramesh,As far as Princess Diana is concerned the birth time is not availablecorrectly. I have 2 different timings.One is 13:10 and Time Zone 0:00 hours.Another is 19:45 - the one you have given but the time zone is BSTminus 1:00Bala--- In , SPK<aquaris_rising wrote:>> Dear Ramesh,> > The birth time info may be inaccurate and real time is probablyunknkown. Yogi karve who has a siddhi to see bith time had put thelagna as Kanya. I do not have the chart in front, but I recall wediscussed this 11 years back and 8th lord mangal is conjuct rahu inthe 12th house. > > Satish> > --- On Mon, 6/23/08, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote:> > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002> Re: Chart analysis> ""> Monday, June 23, 2008, 8:51 AM> > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Bala, Harjeet and lists,> I am bringing a famous chart of a famous lady before you. This ladydied on 31 Aug 1997 in a car accident in Paris.> Now you might have understood who is this lady ?> Her birth details is here.> DOB 01 Jul 1961 TOB 19:45 hrs POB Sandrigham, England 52 N 50, 00 E30 TZ 00:00 DST Yes.> I casted this chart and got Asc. as 25 Sc 59. Please check upwhether my asc is correct.> The event happened in Sa main and Sa antara.> The cause of death is accident so 7th house and 7th lord comes intorole.> The 7th lord is Ve in 7th house with benefic 5 bindus.His aspect onlagna is malefic with -5 bindus.> The significators for 7th house is Ju, Ve and Me. Ju and Me arestrong in WS for 7th house and Me is weak with 9 SAV points. > The 12th lord for 7th is Ma who aspects lagna with malefic sight of-5 bindus> Lod and LoE for 7th is Sa and Ve.> Sa is in 12th from 4th house. Sa is also FK for 8th and aspectshouse 12th who is house C for 8th.> Main lord Sa aspects house C. As per KAS rule if MD lord aspects anyhouse A, B or C then death does not happen in this main period but itsSD gives the event in main period.> How Sa main give death ? > Second point is antara of Sa is weak in WS for 8th with 10 SAV points.> But for 7th house Sa is strong with 15 SAV points in WS.> LoD and LoE for 8th is Ju and Ma respectively.> Sa is of course SD to Ju. Ju is strong in WS with 18 points in 8thhouse.> This Sa aspects 7th house in navamsa.> Sa aspects Ju also in navamsa.> My question is, "Can Sa/Sa may give the event of death" in thischart or this chart needs birth rectification.> The event happened soon the antara of Sa started. > Your precious suggestions is sought.> Thanks and regards.> Ramesh Mishra > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 Dear Sir, When will my good time(golden period) be?Do I have powerful yogas and strong planetary influences in my chart?Will I be getting a good job soon? My dob is 30 June 1984,time is 7.10 am and place of birth is Ipoh,Perak,Malaysia. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Dear Ron,From Dec 2009, Your Good time begins, Currently You are running Sat/Rahu, This is also not a very bad period.Take Care of Your's studies.Lalit. Birth Chart (Lagna) Navamsa (Spouse) Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Ron Sam <saraswathydurga wrote:>> Dear Sir,> When will my good time(golden period) be?Do I have powerful yogas and strong planetary influences in my chart?Will I be getting a good job soon?> My dob is 30 June 1984,time is 7.10 am and place of birth is Ipoh,Perak,Malaysia.> Thank you.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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