A Chart with 3 Debilitation

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For group's study and research -

 

Date of Birth: 12 March 1985,Tuesday, Time of Birth 01:45:00 pm , Place of

Birth: Jaunpur , UP (India)

 

regards,

Lalit Mishra

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regards,

 

i may feeling impelled to respond may just mention here that debilated planets

are preferred in the kaliyuga requiring tactical skills and while aspecting

their opposite sign with elevation could give unexpected good impressive

results, and if in neecha bhanga could be all the more better.

 

uccha planets do indicate maturity of the evolving soul but with debilated

aspect on the opposite sign may not give worldly success perhaps, and the

individual could be too idealistic not able to cope up with the tacticl world

today.

 

as an attempt to just start off, from the timing i guess sun would be in the

kumbha rashi in the 9th house with mithuna laga while jupiter could have been

debilated in the 8th house while lord saturn could have been elevated alongwith

ketu in the 5th house forming a neechabhanga rajayoga - career could start on a

low note but with gradual progress and increases in salary and wealth/bank

balances, moreover suggests earnings through death related matters like

insurance, or a recovery agent - while could rise to advisory role in the future

with lord saturn elevated in the 5th house for ministership.

 

saturn elevated in the 5th as lord of the 9th alongwith ketu could give an

ascetic philosophical attitude detached towards romance and not inclined to get

married soon delaying the process with the 3rd aspect on the 7th house while the

7th lord jupiter is debilated and conservative in capricorn. saturn/ketu could

prompt one to mentally repeat shiva/kalabhairava mantras with efficacy saturn

being elevated.

 

rahu in the 11th house could give income from foreign sources/foreigners may

work for a multinational company/jv especially with jupiter's aspect on rahu

from the 8th. with debilated jupiter as lord of the 10th could have unexpected

sudden rise/fall in career.

 

jupiter's aspect on the 2nd house of speech could give large melodious voice

perhaps singing from the depths with sorrow while marriage partner could be

reserved and conservative in speech, and could also be a humble school teacher

too by profession to begin with to just indicate.

 

may get less dowry in marriage or partner of humble financial conservative

family status with 7th lord jupiter in the 8th house debilated while marriage

partner could be a source of worry jupiter being badhaka for mithuna lagna as

lord of the 7th while with saturn/ketu in the 5th could have disappointments in

romance and difficulty in birth of children perhaps; rahu in the 7th fiery

saggitarius could bring marriage alliances this year but could be a

disappointing process. with 7th lord in the 8th debilated could promote mangalya

dosha.

 

father could have had a stressful start in life and could be a sacrificing

mystique in his way of life with the sun in acquarius in the 9th making

progress gradually with elevated lord saturn in the 5th trining the sun owing to

his purvapunya; brother's health could have been affected with sun aspecting his

own sign from the 7th opposite in inimical acquarius.

 

current jupiter being badhaka and karaka for father moving over the natal sun

sharing the karakatwa in the 9th could impact father's health this year 2010

while lord saturn is transit the 4th house from the ascendant 8th from the 9th

house, while could be fairly good for higher education aspecting natal saturn in

the 5th at the same time.

 

hope this although regretfully incomplete sets the ball rolling and may provoke

some interest,

 

regards again,

 

 

kshantaram

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <mishra.lalit

wrote:

>

> For group's study and research -

>

> Date of Birth: 12 March 1985,Tuesday, Time of Birth 01:45:00 pm , Place of

Birth: Jaunpur , UP (India)

>

> regards,

> Lalit Mishra

>

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Shri Shantaram Ji,

Namaste, Your post is thought provoking. Neecha Graha are simply ignored by most of us, but an experienced jyotishi can observe -

"Debilated planets are preferred in the kaliyuga requiring tactical skills and while aspecting their opposite sign with elevation could give unexpected good impressive results, and if in neecha bhanga could be all the more better"

Sachin Tendulkar is born with 3 neecha grahas, his chart should be reviwed, We should give exclusive attention to charts with more no of neecha grahas, looking forward to Shri Ajit Ji and other experienced members to present their opinion on role of neecha grahas.

Sincerely,Raj

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "shantaram" <shantaramkhrd wrote:>> regards,> > i may feeling impelled to respond may just mention here that debilated planets are preferred in the kaliyuga requiring tactical skills and while aspecting their opposite sign with elevation could give unexpected good impressive results, and if in neecha bhanga could be all the more better.> > uccha planets do indicate maturity of the evolving soul but with debilated aspect on the opposite sign may not give worldly success perhaps, and the individual could be too idealistic not able to cope up with the tacticl world today.> > as an attempt to just start off, from the timing i guess sun would be in the kumbha rashi in the 9th house with mithuna laga while jupiter could have been debilated in the 8th house while lord saturn could have been elevated alongwith ketu in the 5th house forming a neechabhanga rajayoga - career could start on a low note but with gradual progress and increases in salary and wealth/bank balances, moreover suggests earnings through death related matters like insurance, or a recovery agent - while could rise to advisory role in the future with lord saturn elevated in the 5th house for ministership.> > saturn elevated in the 5th as lord of the 9th alongwith ketu could give an ascetic philosophical attitude detached towards romance and not inclined to get married soon delaying the process with the 3rd aspect on the 7th house while the 7th lord jupiter is debilated and conservative in capricorn. saturn/ketu could prompt one to mentally repeat shiva/kalabhairava mantras with efficacy saturn being elevated.> > rahu in the 11th house could give income from foreign sources/foreigners may work for a multinational company/jv especially with jupiter's aspect on rahu from the 8th. with debilated jupiter as lord of the 10th could have unexpected sudden rise/fall in career.> > jupiter's aspect on the 2nd house of speech could give large melodious voice perhaps singing from the depths with sorrow while marriage partner could be reserved and conservative in speech, and could also be a humble school teacher too by profession to begin with to just indicate.> > may get less dowry in marriage or partner of humble financial conservative family status with 7th lord jupiter in the 8th house debilated while marriage partner could be a source of worry jupiter being badhaka for mithuna lagna as lord of the 7th while with saturn/ketu in the 5th could have disappointments in romance and difficulty in birth of children perhaps; rahu in the 7th fiery saggitarius could bring marriage alliances this year but could be a disappointing process. with 7th lord in the 8th debilated could promote mangalya dosha. > > father could have had a stressful start in life and could be a sacrificing mystique in his way of life with the sun in acquarius in the 9th making progress gradually with elevated lord saturn in the 5th trining the sun owing to his purvapunya; brother's health could have been affected with sun aspecting his own sign from the 7th opposite in inimical acquarius.> > current jupiter being badhaka and karaka for father moving over the natal sun sharing the karakatwa in the 9th could impact father's health this year 2010 while lord saturn is transit the 4th house from the ascendant 8th from the 9th house, while could be fairly good for higher education aspecting natal saturn in the 5th at the same time.> > hope this although regretfully incomplete sets the ball rolling and may provoke some interest,> > regards again,> > > kshantaram> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol" mishra.lalit@ wrote:> >> > For group's study and research - > > > > Date of Birth: 12 March 1985,Tuesday, Time of Birth 01:45:00 pm , Place of Birth: Jaunpur , UP (India)> > > > regards,> > Lalit Mishra> >>

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Dear Mr Raj and Shantaram,

Neech planets as we know work according to signs and their lords.If Mangal get's debilitated it is 'coz cancer is a watery sign.It has also some good issues to provide.there are saints,seers and learned men who could really lead their life in pursuit of philosophy and relgion.

There are other with saturn debilitated in fiery sign of aries could get acclaim and even laurels.

like wise mercury in watery sign of pisces could make good lawyers and inventors and break through research.

like wise jupiter in makara produced eminent men of principles and great administrators.

Debilitation is an astronomical point where it is felt the planet in question is supposed to be weak.But other aspects of shadbal certainly add strength.

If Sachin tendulkar has risen to heights,it is the combination of several planets that made him qnique.The position of lagna,moon and sun have always their pre eminence in the study og jyotish.

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman"Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them"

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

--- On Fri, 12/25/09, rajvats62 <rajvats62 wrote:

rajvats62 <rajvats62[Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: A Chart with 3 DebilitationVedic Astrologyandhealing Date: Friday, December 25, 2009, 2:24 AM

 

Shri Shantaram Ji,

Namaste, Your post is thought provoking. Neecha Graha are simply ignored by most of us, but an experienced jyotishi can observe -

"Debilated planets are preferred in the kaliyuga requiring tactical skills and while aspecting their opposite sign with elevation could give unexpected good impressive results, and if in neecha bhanga could be all the more better"

Sachin Tendulkar is born with 3 neecha grahas, his chart should be reviwed, We should give exclusive attention to charts with more no of neecha grahas, looking forward to Shri Ajit Ji and other experienced members to present their opinion on role of neecha grahas.

Sincerely,Raj

 

Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "shantaram" <shantaramkhrd@ ...> wrote:>> regards,> > i may feeling impelled to respond may just mention here that debilated planets are preferred in the kaliyuga requiring tactical skills and while aspecting their opposite sign with elevation could give unexpected good impressive results, and if in neecha bhanga could be all the more better.> > uccha planets do indicate maturity of the evolving soul but with debilated aspect on the opposite sign may not give worldly success perhaps, and the individual could be too idealistic not able to cope up with the tacticl world today.> > as an attempt to just start off, from the timing i guess sun would be in the kumbha rashi in the 9th house with mithuna laga while jupiter could have been debilated in the 8th house while lord saturn could have been elevated alongwith ketu in

the 5th house forming a neechabhanga rajayoga - career could start on a low note but with gradual progress and increases in salary and wealth/bank balances, moreover suggests earnings through death related matters like insurance, or a recovery agent - while could rise to advisory role in the future with lord saturn elevated in the 5th house for ministership.> > saturn elevated in the 5th as lord of the 9th alongwith ketu could give an ascetic philosophical attitude detached towards romance and not inclined to get married soon delaying the process with the 3rd aspect on the 7th house while the 7th lord jupiter is debilated and conservative in capricorn. saturn/ketu could prompt one to mentally repeat shiva/kalabhairava mantras with efficacy saturn being elevated.> > rahu in the 11th house could give income from foreign sources/foreigners may work for a multinational company/jv especially with jupiter's aspect on rahu from the

8th. with debilated jupiter as lord of the 10th could have unexpected sudden rise/fall in career.> > jupiter's aspect on the 2nd house of speech could give large melodious voice perhaps singing from the depths with sorrow while marriage partner could be reserved and conservative in speech, and could also be a humble school teacher too by profession to begin with to just indicate.> > may get less dowry in marriage or partner of humble financial conservative family status with 7th lord jupiter in the 8th house debilated while marriage partner could be a source of worry jupiter being badhaka for mithuna lagna as lord of the 7th while with saturn/ketu in the 5th could have disappointments in romance and difficulty in birth of children perhaps; rahu in the 7th fiery saggitarius could bring marriage alliances this year but could be a disappointing process. with 7th lord in the 8th debilated could promote mangalya dosha. >

> father could have had a stressful start in life and could be a sacrificing mystique in his way of life with the sun in acquarius in the 9th making progress gradually with elevated lord saturn in the 5th trining the sun owing to his purvapunya; brother's health could have been affected with sun aspecting his own sign from the 7th opposite in inimical acquarius.> > current jupiter being badhaka and karaka for father moving over the natal sun sharing the karakatwa in the 9th could impact father's health this year 2010 while lord saturn is transit the 4th house from the ascendant 8th from the 9th house, while could be fairly good for higher education aspecting natal saturn in the 5th at the same time.> > hope this although regretfully incomplete sets the ball rolling and may provoke some interest,> > regards again,> > > kshantaram> > > Vedic Astrologyandhe

aling@ s.com, "litsol" mishra.lalit@ wrote:> >> > For group's study and research - > > > > Date of Birth: 12 March 1985,Tuesday, Time of Birth 01:45:00 pm , Place of Birth: Jaunpur , UP (India)> > > > regards,> > Lalit Mishra> >>

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Dear All,

Mansagari is only classic that has an exclusive chapter on debilated planets, Author has collected several good qualities of debiliated planets, however, reasoning is left for readers to discover.

Luckily, I have got one more interesting horoscope with a certain degree of imbalance in it,

14-09-1968 @ 4.0 pm, Anakapaly, Andhra Pradesh - 83E01, 17N41.

Two planets are in debility - Saturn in 9'th and Venus in 2nd house.

His Lagna (Leo) is is of .59 degrees but lagna lord Sun is placed in a distant corner at 27 degrees, He got a good job, made money but you w'd be surprised to know he has not got promoted in last 4 yrs, the success has come to him in terms of wealth and happiness but no position as of now, Still works as a Sr. consultant of SAP, moon is exalted in 10'th and as said lagna lord Sun is in lagna.

He has been in New Zealand since June 2004 to Dec 2008, even got full time residential visa for NZ.

His passion for movie making has been suppressed for a long time, I am still not sure what debilitated Saturn in 9'th though aspected by Jup from Lagna w'd do to him in upcoming Saturn dasa from 2013.

regards,Lalit Mishra

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:>> Dear Mr Raj and Shantaram,> Neech planets as we know work according to signs and their lords.If Mangal get's debilitated it is 'coz cancer is a watery sign.It has also some good issues to provide.there are saints,seers and learned men who could really lead their life in pursuit of philosophy and relgion.> There are other with saturn debilitated in fiery sign of aries could get acclaim and even laurels.> like wise mercury in watery sign of pisces could make good lawyers and inventors and break through research.> like wise jupiter in makara produced eminent men of principles and great administrators.> Debilitation is an astronomical point where it is felt the planet in question is supposed to be weak.But other aspects of shadbal certainly add strength.> If Sachin tendulkar has risen to heights,it is the combination of several planets that made him qnique.The position of lagna,moon and sun have always their pre eminence in the study og jyotish. > > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services> (For all counseling services)> Dr.B.V.Raman"Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them"> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma>  > > --- On Fri, 12/25/09, rajvats62 rajvats62 wrote:> > > rajvats62 rajvats62 [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: A Chart with 3 Debilitation> Vedic Astrologyandhealing > Friday, December 25, 2009, 2:24 AM> > >  > > > > > Shri Shantaram Ji,> Namaste, Your post is thought provoking. Neecha Graha are simply ignored by most of us, but an experienced jyotishi can observe - > "Debilated planets are preferred in the kaliyuga requiring tactical skills and while aspecting their opposite sign with elevation could give unexpected good impressive results, and if in neecha bhanga could be all the more better"> Sachin Tendulkar is born with 3 neecha grahas, his chart should be reviwed, We should give exclusive attention to charts with more no of neecha grahas, looking forward to Shri Ajit Ji and other experienced members to present their opinion on role of neecha grahas.> Sincerely,> Raj>  > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "shantaram" <shantaramkhrd@ ...> wrote:> >> > regards,> > > > i may feeling impelled to respond may just mention here that debilated planets are preferred in the kaliyuga requiring tactical skills and while aspecting their opposite sign with elevation could give unexpected good impressive results, and if in neecha bhanga could be all the more better.> > > > uccha planets do indicate maturity of the evolving soul but with debilated aspect on the opposite sign may not give worldly success perhaps, and the individual could be too idealistic not able to cope up with the tacticl world today.> > > > as an attempt to just start off, from the timing i guess sun would be in the kumbha rashi in the 9th house with mithuna laga while jupiter could have been debilated in the 8th house while lord saturn could have been elevated alongwith ketu in the 5th house forming a neechabhanga rajayoga - career could start on a low note but with gradual progress and increases in salary and wealth/bank balances, moreover suggests earnings through death related matters like insurance, or a recovery agent - while could rise to advisory role in the future with lord saturn elevated in the 5th house for ministership.> > > > saturn elevated in the 5th as lord of the 9th alongwith ketu could give an ascetic philosophical attitude detached towards romance and not inclined to get married soon delaying the process with the 3rd aspect on the 7th house while the 7th lord jupiter is debilated and conservative in capricorn. saturn/ketu could prompt one to mentally repeat shiva/kalabhairava mantras with efficacy saturn being elevated.> > > > rahu in the 11th house could give income from foreign sources/foreigners may work for a multinational company/jv especially with jupiter's aspect on rahu from the 8th. with debilated jupiter as lord of the 10th could have unexpected sudden rise/fall in career.> > > > jupiter's aspect on the 2nd house of speech could give large melodious voice perhaps singing from the depths with sorrow while marriage partner could be reserved and conservative in speech, and could also be a humble school teacher too by profession to begin with to just indicate.> > > > may get less dowry in marriage or partner of humble financial conservative family status with 7th lord jupiter in the 8th house debilated while marriage partner could be a source of worry jupiter being badhaka for mithuna lagna as lord of the 7th while with saturn/ketu in the 5th could have disappointments in romance and difficulty in birth of children perhaps; rahu in the 7th fiery saggitarius could bring marriage alliances this year but could be a disappointing process. with 7th lord in the 8th debilated could promote mangalya dosha. > > > > father could have had a stressful start in life and could be a sacrificing mystique in his way of life with the sun in acquarius in the 9th making progress gradually with elevated lord saturn in the 5th trining the sun owing to his purvapunya; brother's health could have been affected with sun aspecting his own sign from the 7th opposite in inimical acquarius.> > > > current jupiter being badhaka and karaka for father moving over the natal sun sharing the karakatwa in the 9th could impact father's health this year 2010 while lord saturn is transit the 4th house from the ascendant 8th from the 9th house, while could be fairly good for higher education aspecting natal saturn in the 5th at the same time.> > > > hope this although regretfully incomplete sets the ball rolling and may provoke some interest,> > > > regards again,> > > > > > kshantaram> > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" mishra.lalit@ wrote:> > >> > > For group's study and research - > > > > > > Date of Birth: 12 March 1985,Tuesday, Time of Birth 01:45:00 pm , Place of Birth: Jaunpur , UP (India)> > > > > > regards,> > > Lalit Mishra> > >> >>

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Dear Shri lalit Ji,

1Point however take note is debilitation of one or two planets in any native chart does not mean he will be debilitated in real life too.After all real life it depends on lagna as the case you have mentioned.Born with a Golden spoon,as the Sun making his life bright financially.

If Lagna is energitic,all other debilitation for a person ready to face challenges,there will be no hurdles.

2.Leo's have no bosses.Their reward lies in their organisational skills.As leaders,they never think of promotions.

Sun in Lagna in mercury's Aslesha if a blessing is not also very comfortable when it comes to his own personal matters.

3.By the time of 2013,the native,the natives health will make him damp..Also his own coterie too do not keep company.All the support and help he provided looses significance.This will be a point for him to know about spirtuality,what ever might be reasons behind.

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman"Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them"

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

--- On Sat, 12/26/09, litsol <mishra.lalit wrote:

litsol <mishra.lalit[Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: A Chart with 3 DebilitationVedic Astrologyandhealing Date: Saturday, December 26, 2009, 6:55 AM

 

Dear All,

Mansagari is only classic that has an exclusive chapter on debilated planets, Author has collected several good qualities of debiliated planets, however, reasoning is left for readers to discover.

Luckily, I have got one more interesting horoscope with a certain degree of imbalance in it,

14-09-1968 @ 4.0 pm, Anakapaly, Andhra Pradesh - 83E01, 17N41.

Two planets are in debility - Saturn in 9'th and Venus in 2nd house.

His Lagna (Leo) is is of .59 degrees but lagna lord Sun is placed in a distant corner at 27 degrees, He got a good job, made money but you w'd be surprised to know he has not got promoted in last 4 yrs, the success has come to him in terms of wealth and happiness but no position as of now, Still works as a Sr. consultant of SAP, moon is exalted in 10'th and as said lagna lord Sun is in lagna.

He has been in New Zealand since June 2004 to Dec 2008, even got full time residential visa for NZ.

His passion for movie making has been suppressed for a long time, I am still not sure what debilitated Saturn in 9'th though aspected by Jup from Lagna w'd do to him in upcoming Saturn dasa from 2013..

regards,Lalit Mishra

Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@.. .> wrote:>> Dear Mr Raj and Shantaram,> Neech planets as we know work according to signs and their lords.If Mangal get's debilitated it is 'coz cancer is a watery sign.It has also some good issues to provide.there are saints,seers and learned men who could really lead their life in pursuit of philosophy and relgion.> There are other with saturn debilitated in fiery sign of aries could get acclaim and even laurels.> like wise mercury in watery sign of pisces could make good lawyers and inventors and break through research.> like wise jupiter in makara produced eminent men of principles and great administrators.> Debilitation is an astronomical point where it is felt the planet in question is supposed to be weak.But other aspects of shadbal certainly add strength.> If Sachin tendulkar has risen to

heights,it is the combination of several planets that made him qnique.The position of lagna,moon and sun have always their pre eminence in the study og jyotish. > > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services> (For all counseling services)> Dr.B.V..Raman" Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them"> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma>  > > --- On Fri, 12/25/09, rajvats62 rajvats62@.. . wrote:> > > rajvats62 rajvats62@.. .> [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Re: A Chart with 3 Debilitation> Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com> Friday, December 25, 2009, 2:24 AM> > >  > > > > > Shri Shantaram Ji,> Namaste, Your post is thought provoking. Neecha Graha are simply ignored by most of us, but an

experienced jyotishi can observe - > "Debilated planets are preferred in the kaliyuga requiring tactical skills and while aspecting their opposite sign with elevation could give unexpected good impressive results, and if in neecha bhanga could be all the more better"> Sachin Tendulkar is born with 3 neecha grahas, his chart should be reviwed, We should give exclusive attention to charts with more no of neecha grahas, looking forward to Shri Ajit Ji and other experienced members to present their opinion on role of neecha grahas.> Sincerely,> Raj>  > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "shantaram" <shantaramkhrd@ ...> wrote:> >> > regards,> > > > i may feeling impelled to respond may just mention here that debilated planets are preferred in the kaliyuga requiring tactical skills and while

aspecting their opposite sign with elevation could give unexpected good impressive results, and if in neecha bhanga could be all the more better.> > > > uccha planets do indicate maturity of the evolving soul but with debilated aspect on the opposite sign may not give worldly success perhaps, and the individual could be too idealistic not able to cope up with the tacticl world today.> > > > as an attempt to just start off, from the timing i guess sun would be in the kumbha rashi in the 9th house with mithuna laga while jupiter could have been debilated in the 8th house while lord saturn could have been elevated alongwith ketu in the 5th house forming a neechabhanga rajayoga - career could start on a low note but with gradual progress and increases in salary and wealth/bank balances, moreover suggests earnings through death related matters like insurance, or a recovery agent - while could rise to advisory role in

the future with lord saturn elevated in the 5th house for ministership.> > > > saturn elevated in the 5th as lord of the 9th alongwith ketu could give an ascetic philosophical attitude detached towards romance and not inclined to get married soon delaying the process with the 3rd aspect on the 7th house while the 7th lord jupiter is debilated and conservative in capricorn. saturn/ketu could prompt one to mentally repeat shiva/kalabhairava mantras with efficacy saturn being elevated.> > > > rahu in the 11th house could give income from foreign sources/foreigners may work for a multinational company/jv especially with jupiter's aspect on rahu from the 8th. with debilated jupiter as lord of the 10th could have unexpected sudden rise/fall in career.> > > > jupiter's aspect on the 2nd house of speech could give large melodious voice perhaps singing from the depths with sorrow while marriage partner

could be reserved and conservative in speech, and could also be a humble school teacher too by profession to begin with to just indicate.> > > > may get less dowry in marriage or partner of humble financial conservative family status with 7th lord jupiter in the 8th house debilated while marriage partner could be a source of worry jupiter being badhaka for mithuna lagna as lord of the 7th while with saturn/ketu in the 5th could have disappointments in romance and difficulty in birth of children perhaps; rahu in the 7th fiery saggitarius could bring marriage alliances this year but could be a disappointing process. with 7th lord in the 8th debilated could promote mangalya dosha. > > > > father could have had a stressful start in life and could be a sacrificing mystique in his way of life with the sun in acquarius in the 9th making progress gradually with elevated lord saturn in the 5th trining the sun owing to his

purvapunya; brother's health could have been affected with sun aspecting his own sign from the 7th opposite in inimical acquarius.> > > > current jupiter being badhaka and karaka for father moving over the natal sun sharing the karakatwa in the 9th could impact father's health this year 2010 while lord saturn is transit the 4th house from the ascendant 8th from the 9th house, while could be fairly good for higher education aspecting natal saturn in the 5th at the same time.> > > > hope this although regretfully incomplete sets the ball rolling and may provoke some interest,> > > > regards again,> > > > > > kshantaram> > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" mishra.lalit@ wrote:> > >> > > For group's study and research - > > > > > > Date of Birth: 12 March

1985,Tuesday, Time of Birth 01:45:00 pm , Place of Birth: Jaunpur , UP (India)> > > > > > regards,> > > Lalit Mishra> > >> >>

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Dear Group and Elders,I feel, organized effort is required to check the debilated planets minutely, to describe the psyche of the person, his priorities in life, his actions and thoughts towardsothers and other's actions and thoughts towards him, If member with debilated planets in their chart share their experience, that w'd be great, cumulative effort can take up our understanding to next level up.A debilitated planet creates a vacuum in one's life, denotes a reason for taking birth, he misses the higher significations of planet in debility and then does huge effort to fill the vacuum, either with positive ways or with negative ways, depends on Lagna, Moon, Dushikya -3rd, Turya- 4'th , Matisthana - 5'th,Tapasthan - 9'th and Karmasthan - 10'thLate Sri Seetaram Jha who collected scattered BPHS's verses from several places has also collected shlokas of Mansagri in which positive side of debilated planets given, I m quoting them here and w'd discuss them depending on my convenience.Sun :

!! Nisthur Dant Vadanah SamGatra Sthul Janghkar Padah, StreeVinirVadit Chitto !!"Nisthur" means lack of sensitivity, thick thighs and worries on accountof women, well placed Sun normaly makes one respectful towards womens.Debilayed Sun instigates one to do activities against the mass andpublic property, he is said to be "KaliManah" and "PaapkarmaRatih".Moon :

!! Nrityak Vadak Jalpak DhurtaJanascha Sangatiha Sahasa, Kumatih Sanshya Nirato !!Interest in dance, music and arts, water games but one also gets cunningfriends to get cheated occasionally, thus he has Krishmana - kumati(sad and bad mind) and Sanshaya (doubts).Mars :

!!Lakshmi (next word is not clear to me) Sthir Vibhao BudhiMan Gunascha, Ratricharo Chauro Dushtatma !!Stable wealth, clever and intelligent coz, well placed mars makes onestraightforward, he doesn't allow one to think in various directions butwhen in debility this straightforwardness is reduced and manipulativemind emerges within the native, his intelligence improves but if lagnaand moon and trikonas are not afflicted, manipulative mind will take theform of fine creativity, however, one has to live in other's house andsometimes in a different place then his own country, His anger will beslow and lasting, he will not express that rather will begin detestingand still keeping relation with cause of the anger, he has "deenata andshamita" that means he feels inferior and remain cool before riches andpeople of substance.Merc :

!! Subha Sumati Urvar Yutiha SubhSheela Bhartri Vachan Anumudita, Santati Putra Viheeno !!Good quality spouse who follows native's wishes but lack of happiness ofprogeny.Jup : !! Divya StreeVarKanchan PushpaFal prakar Pujitah Purushaha,Parakarm Karo narah SmarViheen Bhartri DeshantaraGo, BhayaRosha Bhak NaJanaMane Na Manorthaaha !!The native will have spouse of superb quality and many other goodtreatment with respect but people dont get authority, wont have sexualactivism and will have to roam places to places because they dont getclose friends and true support and their desires are not fulfilled, theyhave to serve others to any level for getting done their work.

regards,Lalit Mishra

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:>> Dear Shri lalit Ji,> 1Point however take note is debilitation of one or two planets in any native chart does not mean he will be debilitated in real life too.After all real life it depends on lagna as the case you have mentioned.Born with a Golden spoon,as the Sun making his life bright financially.> If Lagna is energitic,all other debilitation for a person ready to face challenges,there will be no hurdles.> 2.Leo's have no bosses.Their reward lies in their organisational skills.As leaders,they never think of promotions.> Sun in Lagna in mercury's Aslesha if a blessing is not also very comfortable when it comes to his own personal matters.> 3.By the time of 2013,the native,the natives health will make him damp.Also his own coterie too do not keep company.All the support and help he provided looses significance.This will be a point for him to know about spirtuality,what ever might be reasons behind.> > >  > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services> (For all counseling services)> Dr.B.V.Raman"Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them"> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma>  > > --- On Sat, 12/26/09, litsol mishra.lalit wrote:> > > litsol mishra.lalit [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: A Chart with 3 Debilitation> Vedic Astrologyandhealing > Saturday, December 26, 2009, 6:55 AM> > >  > > > > > Dear All,> Mansagari is only classic that has an exclusive chapter on debilated planets, Author has collected several good qualities of debiliated planets, however, reasoning is left for readers to discover.> Luckily, I have got one more interesting horoscope with a certain degree of imbalance in it, > 14-09-1968 @ 4.0 pm, Anakapaly, Andhra Pradesh - 83E01, 17N41.> Two planets are in debility - Saturn in 9'th and Venus in 2nd house.> His Lagna (Leo) is is of .59 degrees but lagna lord Sun is placed in a distant corner at 27 degrees, He got a good job, made money but you w'd be surprised to know he has not got promoted in last 4 yrs, the success has come to him in terms of wealth and happiness but no position as of now, Still works as a Sr. consultant of SAP, moon is exalted in 10'th and as said lagna lord Sun is in lagna.> He has been in New Zealand since June 2004 to Dec 2008, even got full time residential visa for NZ.> His passion for movie making has been suppressed for a long time, I am still not sure what debilitated Saturn in 9'th though aspected by Jup from Lagna w'd do to him in upcoming Saturn dasa from 2013. > regards,> Lalit Mishra> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Vattem Krishnan bursar_99@ .> wrote:> >> > Dear Mr Raj and Shantaram,> > Neech planets as we know work according to signs and their lords.If Mangal get's debilitated it is 'coz cancer is a watery sign.It has also some good issues to provide.there are saints,seers and learned men who could really lead their life in pursuit of philosophy and relgion.> > There are other with saturn debilitated in fiery sign of aries could get acclaim and even laurels.> > like wise mercury in watery sign of pisces could make good lawyers and inventors and break through research.> > like wise jupiter in makara produced eminent men of principles and great administrators.> > Debilitation is an astronomical point where it is felt the planet in question is supposed to be weak.But other aspects of shadbal certainly add strength.> > If Sachin tendulkar has risen to heights,it is the combination of several planets that made him qnique.The position of lagna,moon and sun have always their pre eminence in the study og jyotish. > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > Cyber Jyotish Services> > (For all counseling services)> > Dr.B.V.Raman" Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them"> > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma> >  > > > > --- On Fri, 12/25/09, rajvats62 rajvats62@ . wrote:> > > > > > rajvats62 rajvats62@ .> > [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Re: A Chart with 3 Debilitation> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com> > Friday, December 25, 2009, 2:24 AM> > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Shri Shantaram Ji,> > Namaste, Your post is thought provoking. Neecha Graha are simply ignored by most of us, but an experienced jyotishi can observe - > > "Debilated planets are preferred in the kaliyuga requiring tactical skills and while aspecting their opposite sign with elevation could give unexpected good impressive results, and if in neecha bhanga could be all the more better"> > Sachin Tendulkar is born with 3 neecha grahas, his chart should be reviwed, We should give exclusive attention to charts with more no of neecha grahas, looking forward to Shri Ajit Ji and other experienced members to present their opinion on role of neecha grahas.> > Sincerely,> > Raj> >  > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "shantaram" <shantaramkhrd@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > regards,> > > > > > i may feeling impelled to respond may just mention here that debilated planets are preferred in the kaliyuga requiring tactical skills and while aspecting their opposite sign with elevation could give unexpected good impressive results, and if in neecha bhanga could be all the more better.> > > > > > uccha planets do indicate maturity of the evolving soul but with debilated aspect on the opposite sign may not give worldly success perhaps, and the individual could be too idealistic not able to cope up with the tacticl world today.> > > > > > as an attempt to just start off, from the timing i guess sun would be in the kumbha rashi in the 9th house with mithuna laga while jupiter could have been debilated in the 8th house while lord saturn could have been elevated alongwith ketu in the 5th house forming a neechabhanga rajayoga - career could start on a low note but with gradual progress and increases in salary and wealth/bank balances, moreover suggests earnings through death related matters like insurance, or a recovery agent - while could rise to advisory role in the future with lord saturn elevated in the 5th house for ministership.> > > > > > saturn elevated in the 5th as lord of the 9th alongwith ketu could give an ascetic philosophical attitude detached towards romance and not inclined to get married soon delaying the process with the 3rd aspect on the 7th house while the 7th lord jupiter is debilated and conservative in capricorn. saturn/ketu could prompt one to mentally repeat shiva/kalabhairava mantras with efficacy saturn being elevated.> > > > > > rahu in the 11th house could give income from foreign sources/foreigners may work for a multinational company/jv especially with jupiter's aspect on rahu from the 8th. with debilated jupiter as lord of the 10th could have unexpected sudden rise/fall in career.> > > > > > jupiter's aspect on the 2nd house of speech could give large melodious voice perhaps singing from the depths with sorrow while marriage partner could be reserved and conservative in speech, and could also be a humble school teacher too by profession to begin with to just indicate.> > > > > > may get less dowry in marriage or partner of humble financial conservative family status with 7th lord jupiter in the 8th house debilated while marriage partner could be a source of worry jupiter being badhaka for mithuna lagna as lord of the 7th while with saturn/ketu in the 5th could have disappointments in romance and difficulty in birth of children perhaps; rahu in the 7th fiery saggitarius could bring marriage alliances this year but could be a disappointing process. with 7th lord in the 8th debilated could promote mangalya dosha. > > > > > > father could have had a stressful start in life and could be a sacrificing mystique in his way of life with the sun in acquarius in the 9th making progress gradually with elevated lord saturn in the 5th trining the sun owing to his purvapunya; brother's health could have been affected with sun aspecting his own sign from the 7th opposite in inimical acquarius.> > > > > > current jupiter being badhaka and karaka for father moving over the natal sun sharing the karakatwa in the 9th could impact father's health this year 2010 while lord saturn is transit the 4th house from the ascendant 8th from the 9th house, while could be fairly good for higher education aspecting natal saturn in the 5th at the same time.> > > > > > hope this although regretfully incomplete sets the ball rolling and may provoke some interest,> > > > > > regards again,> > > > > > > > > kshantaram> > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" mishra.lalit@ wrote:> > > >> > > > For group's study and research - > > > > > > > > Date of Birth: 12 March 1985,Tuesday, Time of Birth 01:45:00 pm , Place of Birth: Jaunpur , UP (India)> > > > > > > > regards,> > > > Lalit Mishra> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Sir,

This excludes mention of Shani Maharaj,the one and only teacher apart from the palnet known for virility,Shri Sukrachara,Known to be Rakshsa Guru..

As you know my Moon in Makara is debilited but in kutuba bhava.Saturn is also not very strong in Kataka with sun.

Lagna of jupiter Dhanur raising in nidravstha but in hybernation in Thula 11th.Mars with rahu in taurus(5th from rasi) 6th from moon Budha in own sign of gemini.

7th as kendra from moon has all friends and foes.sun,saturn and venus and finally ketu in vrischika and Dhanur no planet as lagna.

I feel a vaccum in life and that is I always kept from all my Gnatis and my own family including parents.

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman"Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them"

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

--- On Sat, 12/26/09, litsol <mishra.lalit wrote:

litsol <mishra.lalit[Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: A Chart with 3 DebilitationVedic Astrologyandhealing Date: Saturday, December 26, 2009, 10:07 AM

 

Dear Group and Elders,I feel, organized effort is required to check the debilated planets minutely, to describe the psyche of the person, his priorities in life, his actions and thoughts towardsothers and other's actions and thoughts towards him, If member with debilated planets in their chart share their experience, that w'd be great, cumulative effort can take up our understanding to next level up.A debilitated planet creates a vacuum in one's life, denotes a reason for taking birth, he misses the higher significations of planet in debility and then does huge effort to fill the vacuum, either with positive ways or with negative ways, depends on Lagna, Moon, Dushikya -3rd, Turya- 4'th , Matisthana - 5'th,Tapasthan - 9'th and Karmasthan - 10'thLate Sri Seetaram Jha who collected scattered BPHS's verses from several

places has also collected shlokas of Mansagri in which positive side of debilated planets given, I m quoting them here and w'd discuss them depending on my convenience.Sun :

!! Nisthur Dant Vadanah SamGatra Sthul Janghkar Padah, StreeVinirVadit Chitto !!"Nisthur" means lack of sensitivity, thick thighs and worries on accountof women, well placed Sun normaly makes one respectful towards womens.Debilayed Sun instigates one to do activities against the mass andpublic property, he is said to be "KaliManah" and "PaapkarmaRatih" .Moon :

!! Nrityak Vadak Jalpak DhurtaJanascha Sangatiha Sahasa, Kumatih Sanshya Nirato !!Interest in dance, music and arts, water games but one also gets cunningfriends to get cheated occasionally, thus he has Krishmana - kumati(sad and bad mind) and Sanshaya (doubts).Mars :

!!Lakshmi (next word is not clear to me) Sthir Vibhao BudhiMan Gunascha, Ratricharo Chauro Dushtatma !!Stable wealth, clever and intelligent coz, well placed mars makes onestraightforward, he doesn't allow one to think in various directions butwhen in debility this straightforwardness is reduced and manipulativemind emerges within the native, his intelligence improves but if lagnaand moon and trikonas are not afflicted, manipulative mind will take theform of fine creativity, however, one has to live in other's house andsometimes in a different place then his own country, His anger will beslow and lasting, he will not express that rather will begin detestingand still keeping relation with cause of the anger, he has "deenata andshamita" that means he feels inferior and remain cool before riches andpeople of substance.Merc :

 

!! Subha Sumati Urvar Yutiha SubhSheela Bhartri Vachan Anumudita, Santati Putra Viheeno !!Good quality spouse who follows native's wishes but lack of happiness ofprogeny.Jup : !! Divya StreeVarKanchan PushpaFal prakar Pujitah Purushaha,Parakarm Karo narah SmarViheen Bhartri DeshantaraGo, BhayaRosha Bhak NaJanaMane Na Manorthaaha !!The native will have spouse of superb quality and many other goodtreatment with respect but people dont get authority, wont have sexualactivism and will have to roam places to places because they dont getclose friends and true support and their desires are not fulfilled, theyhave to serve others to any level for getting done their work.

regards,Lalit Mishra

Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@.. .> wrote:>> Dear Shri lalit Ji,> 1Point however take note is debilitation of one or two planets in any native chart does not mean he will be debilitated in real life too.After all real life it depends on lagna as the case you have mentioned.Born with a Golden spoon,as the Sun making his life bright financially.> If Lagna is energitic,all other debilitation for a person ready to face challenges,there will be no hurdles.> 2.Leo's have no bosses.Their reward lies in their organisational skills.As leaders,they never think of promotions.> Sun in Lagna in mercury's Aslesha if a blessing is not also very comfortable when it comes to his own personal matters.> 3.By the time of 2013,the native,the natives health will make him damp.Also his own coterie too do not keep company.All the support and help he provided looses

significance. This will be a point for him to know about spirtuality, what ever might be reasons behind.> > >  > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services> (For all counseling services)> Dr.B.V.Raman" Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them"> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma>  > > --- On Sat, 12/26/09, litsol mishra.lalit@ ... wrote:> > > litsol mishra.lalit@ ...> [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Re: A Chart with 3 Debilitation> Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com> Saturday, December 26, 2009, 6:55 AM> > >  > > > > > Dear All,> Mansagari is only classic that has an exclusive chapter on debilated planets, Author has collected several good qualities of debiliated planets, however,

reasoning is left for readers to discover.> Luckily, I have got one more interesting horoscope with a certain degree of imbalance in it, > 14-09-1968 @ 4.0 pm, Anakapaly, Andhra Pradesh - 83E01, 17N41.> Two planets are in debility - Saturn in 9'th and Venus in 2nd house.> His Lagna (Leo) is is of .59 degrees but lagna lord Sun is placed in a distant corner at 27 degrees, He got a good job, made money but you w'd be surprised to know he has not got promoted in last 4 yrs, the success has come to him in terms of wealth and happiness but no position as of now, Still works as a Sr. consultant of SAP, moon is exalted in 10'th and as said lagna lord Sun is in lagna.> He has been in New Zealand since June 2004 to Dec 2008, even got full time residential visa for NZ.> His passion for movie making has been suppressed for a long time, I am still not sure what debilitated Saturn in 9'th

though aspected by Jup from Lagna w'd do to him in upcoming Saturn dasa from 2013. > regards,> Lalit Mishra> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Vattem Krishnan bursar_99@ .> wrote:> >> > Dear Mr Raj and Shantaram,> > Neech planets as we know work according to signs and their lords.If Mangal get's debilitated it is 'coz cancer is a watery sign.It has also some good issues to provide.there are saints,seers and learned men who could really lead their life in pursuit of philosophy and relgion.> > There are other with saturn debilitated in fiery sign of aries could get acclaim and even laurels.> > like wise mercury in watery sign of pisces could make good lawyers and inventors and break through research.> > like wise jupiter in makara produced eminent men of principles and great administrators.> > Debilitation is an astronomical point where

it is felt the planet in question is supposed to be weak.But other aspects of shadbal certainly add strength.> > If Sachin tendulkar has risen to heights,it is the combination of several planets that made him qnique.The position of lagna,moon and sun have always their pre eminence in the study og jyotish. > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > Cyber Jyotish Services> > (For all counseling services)> > Dr.B.V.Raman" Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them"> > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma> >  > > > > --- On Fri, 12/25/09, rajvats62 rajvats62@ . wrote:> > > > > > rajvats62 rajvats62@ .> > [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Re: A Chart with 3 Debilitation> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com> > Date:

Friday, December 25, 2009, 2:24 AM> > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Shri Shantaram Ji,> > Namaste, Your post is thought provoking. Neecha Graha are simply ignored by most of us, but an experienced jyotishi can observe - > > "Debilated planets are preferred in the kaliyuga requiring tactical skills and while aspecting their opposite sign with elevation could give unexpected good impressive results, and if in neecha bhanga could be all the more better"> > Sachin Tendulkar is born with 3 neecha grahas, his chart should be reviwed, We should give exclusive attention to charts with more no of neecha grahas, looking forward to Shri Ajit Ji and other experienced members to present their opinion on role of neecha grahas.> >

Sincerely,> > Raj> >  > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "shantaram" <shantaramkhrd@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > regards,> > > > > > i may feeling impelled to respond may just mention here that debilated planets are preferred in the kaliyuga requiring tactical skills and while aspecting their opposite sign with elevation could give unexpected good impressive results, and if in neecha bhanga could be all the more better.> > > > > > uccha planets do indicate maturity of the evolving soul but with debilated aspect on the opposite sign may not give worldly success perhaps, and the individual could be too idealistic not able to cope up with the tacticl world today.> > > > > > as an attempt to just start off, from the timing i guess sun would be in the kumbha rashi in the 9th house

with mithuna laga while jupiter could have been debilated in the 8th house while lord saturn could have been elevated alongwith ketu in the 5th house forming a neechabhanga rajayoga - career could start on a low note but with gradual progress and increases in salary and wealth/bank balances, moreover suggests earnings through death related matters like insurance, or a recovery agent - while could rise to advisory role in the future with lord saturn elevated in the 5th house for ministership.> > > > > > saturn elevated in the 5th as lord of the 9th alongwith ketu could give an ascetic philosophical attitude detached towards romance and not inclined to get married soon delaying the process with the 3rd aspect on the 7th house while the 7th lord jupiter is debilated and conservative in capricorn. saturn/ketu could prompt one to mentally repeat shiva/kalabhairava mantras with efficacy saturn being elevated.> > >

> > > rahu in the 11th house could give income from foreign sources/foreigners may work for a multinational company/jv especially with jupiter's aspect on rahu from the 8th. with debilated jupiter as lord of the 10th could have unexpected sudden rise/fall in career.> > > > > > jupiter's aspect on the 2nd house of speech could give large melodious voice perhaps singing from the depths with sorrow while marriage partner could be reserved and conservative in speech, and could also be a humble school teacher too by profession to begin with to just indicate.> > > > > > may get less dowry in marriage or partner of humble financial conservative family status with 7th lord jupiter in the 8th house debilated while marriage partner could be a source of worry jupiter being badhaka for mithuna lagna as lord of the 7th while with saturn/ketu in the 5th could have disappointments in romance and

difficulty in birth of children perhaps; rahu in the 7th fiery saggitarius could bring marriage alliances this year but could be a disappointing process. with 7th lord in the 8th debilated could promote mangalya dosha. > > > > > > father could have had a stressful start in life and could be a sacrificing mystique in his way of life with the sun in acquarius in the 9th making progress gradually with elevated lord saturn in the 5th trining the sun owing to his purvapunya; brother's health could have been affected with sun aspecting his own sign from the 7th opposite in inimical acquarius.> > > > > > current jupiter being badhaka and karaka for father moving over the natal sun sharing the karakatwa in the 9th could impact father's health this year 2010 while lord saturn is transit the 4th house from the ascendant 8th from the 9th house, while could be fairly good for higher education aspecting natal

saturn in the 5th at the same time.> > > > > > hope this although regretfully incomplete sets the ball rolling and may provoke some interest,> > > > > > regards again,> > > > > > > > > kshantaram> > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" mishra.lalit@ wrote:> > > >> > > > For group's study and research - > > > > > > > > Date of Birth: 12 March 1985,Tuesday, Time of Birth 01:45:00 pm , Place of Birth: Jaunpur , UP (India)> > > > > > > > regards,> > > > Lalit Mishra> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear all,As I have been requested to make comments , I have been virtually prompted. As an aid , I am also posting the chart with exact coordintes from Google earth. One request and /or suggestion. It makes things easier, when it is mentioned, whether the person concerned is male or female. I never see a chart in isolation . Just because the chart has 3 debilitated planets, does not mean bad. In the concerned chart, debilitation of Mrecury has been cancelled by exalted planet Venus. Mars , the yoga karaka for cancer is in 10th, which is kendra, forming the Ruchaka Mahapurusha Yoga. Rahu is far away to reduce the strength of Mars. 5th house is occupied by Saturn retro and debilitated

moon. The person will have basically mental worries unless spiritually inclined. Mars has 8th aspect on this which a relief. Saturn in turn has 3rd aspect on debilitated Jupiter. Jupiter being in the 7th from Lagna,problem in marriage. Venus exalted in the 9th creates interest in dancing , music or even acting. Generally, all Lagnas except Mesha and Rishbha have problems in marriage. RegardsAjitkumaarrajvats62 <rajvats62Vedic Astrologyandhealing Sent: Fri, December 25, 2009 8:24:38 AM[Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: A Chart with 3 Debilitation

 

 

Shri Shantaram Ji,

Namaste, Your post is thought provoking. Neecha Graha are simply ignored by most of us, but an experienced jyotishi can observe -

"Debilated planets are preferred in the kaliyuga requiring tactical skills and while aspecting their opposite sign with elevation could give unexpected good impressive results, and if in neecha bhanga could be all the more better"

Sachin Tendulkar is born with 3 neecha grahas, his chart should be reviwed, We should give exclusive attention to charts with more no of neecha grahas, looking forward to Shri Ajit Ji and other experienced members to present their opinion on role of neecha grahas.

Sincerely,Raj

 

Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "shantaram" <shantaramkhrd@ ...> wrote:>> regards,> > i may feeling impelled to respond may just mention here that debilated planets are preferred in the kaliyuga requiring tactical skills and while aspecting their opposite sign with elevation could give unexpected good impressive results, and if in neecha bhanga could be all the more better.> > uccha planets do indicate maturity of the evolving soul but with debilated aspect on the opposite sign may not give worldly success perhaps, and the individual could be too idealistic not able to cope up with the tacticl world today.> > as an attempt to just start off, from the timing i guess sun would be in the kumbha rashi in the 9th house with mithuna laga while jupiter could have been debilated in the 8th house

while lord saturn

could have been elevated alongwith ketu in the 5th house forming a neechabhanga rajayoga - career could start on a low note but with gradual progress and increases in salary and wealth/bank balances, moreover suggests earnings through death related matters like insurance, or a recovery agent - while could rise to advisory role in the future with lord saturn elevated in the 5th house for ministership.> > saturn elevated in the 5th as lord of the 9th alongwith ketu could give an ascetic philosophical attitude detached towards romance and not inclined to get married soon delaying the process with the 3rd aspect on the 7th house while the 7th lord jupiter is debilated and conservative in capricorn. saturn/ketu could prompt one to mentally repeat shiva/kalabhairava mantras with efficacy saturn being elevated.> > rahu in the 11th house could give income from foreign sources/foreigners may work for a multinational company/jv

especially with jupiter's aspect on rahu from the 8th. with debilated jupiter as lord of the 10th could have unexpected sudden rise/fall in career.> > jupiter's aspect on the 2nd house of speech could give large melodious voice perhaps singing from the depths with sorrow while marriage partner could be reserved and conservative in speech, and could also be a humble school teacher too by profession to begin with to just indicate.> > may get less dowry in marriage or partner of humble financial conservative family status with 7th lord jupiter in the 8th house debilated while marriage partner could be a source of worry jupiter being badhaka for mithuna lagna as lord of the 7th while with saturn/ketu in the 5th could have disappointments in romance and difficulty in birth of children perhaps; rahu in the 7th fiery saggitarius could bring marriage alliances this year but could be a disappointing process. with 7th lord in the 8th

debilated could promote mangalya dosha. > > father could have had a stressful start in life and could be a sacrificing mystique in his way of life with the sun in acquarius in the 9th making progress gradually with elevated lord saturn in the 5th trining the sun owing to his purvapunya; brother's health could have been affected with sun aspecting his own sign from the 7th opposite in inimical acquarius.> > current jupiter being badhaka and karaka for father moving over the natal sun sharing the karakatwa in the 9th could impact father's health this year 2010 while lord saturn is transit the 4th house from the ascendant 8th from the 9th house, while could be fairly good for higher education aspecting natal saturn in the 5th at the same time.> > hope this although regretfully incomplete sets the ball rolling and may provoke some interest,> > regards again,> > > kshantaram>

> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" mishra.lalit@ wrote:> >> > For group's study and research - > > > > Date of Birth: 12 March 1985,Tuesday, Time of Birth 01:45:00 pm , Place of Birth: Jaunpur , UP (India)> > > > regards,> > Lalit Mishra> >>

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Shri Ajit Ji,

Namaste, I am desirous of learning how NeechaBhanga functions, If we understand Neecha Budha in poor learning, poor communication, lack of promptness and intelligence, should Sukra who is creating bhanga or cancellation, what manovering this Sukra induces in jataka's approach in a way neecha bhanga happens, I mean what's neechabhanga is in reality.

In the archives, I saw, Lalit ji has said that a shatru rashi gat ( placed in inimical signs signs) graha is more harmful then the neecha avastha grahas, that looks logical to me.

Pls tell us what you found in life of people with neechabahanga.

Sincerly,Raj

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Ajitkumar Benadi <ajitbenadi wrote:>> Dear all,> As I have been requested to make comments , I have been virtually prompted. > As an aid , I am also posting the chart with exact coordintes from Google earth. > One request and /or suggestion. It makes things easier, when it is mentioned, whether the person concerned is male or female. > I never see a chart in isolation . Just because the chart has 3 debilitated planets, does not mean bad. In the concerned chart, debilitation of Mrecury has been cancelled by exalted planet Venus. Mars , the yoga karaka for cancer is in 10th, which is kendra, forming the Ruchaka Mahapurusha Yoga. Rahu is far away to reduce the strength of Mars. 5th house is occupied by Saturn retro and debilitated moon. The person will have basically mental worries unless spiritually inclined. Mars has 8th aspect on this which a relief. Saturn in turn has 3rd aspect on debilitated Jupiter. Jupiter being in the 7th from Lagna,problem in marriage. Venus exalted in the 9th creates interest in dancing , music or even acting. Generally, all Lagnas except Mesha and Rishbha have problems in marriage. > > Regards> Ajitkumaar> > > ________________________________> rajvats62 rajvats62 Vedic Astrologyandhealing > Fri, December 25, 2009 8:24:38 AM> [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: A Chart with 3 Debilitation> > > Shri Shantaram Ji,> Namaste, Your post is thought provoking. Neecha Graha are simply ignored by most of us, but an experienced jyotishi can observe - > "Debilated planets are preferred in the kaliyuga requiring tactical skills and while aspecting their opposite sign with elevation could give unexpected good impressive results, and if in neecha bhanga could be all the more better"> Sachin Tendulkar is born with 3 neecha grahas, his chart should be reviwed, We should give exclusive attention to charts with more no of neecha grahas, looking forward to Shri Ajit Ji and other experienced members to present their opinion on role of neecha grahas.> Sincerely,> Raj> > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "shantaram" <shantaramkhrd@ ...> wrote:> >> > regards,> > > > i may feeling impelled to respond may just mention here that debilated planets are preferred in the kaliyuga requiring tactical skills and while aspecting their opposite sign with elevation could give unexpected good impressive results, and if in neecha bhanga could be all the more better.> > > > uccha planets do indicate maturity of the evolving soul but with debilated aspect on the opposite sign may not give worldly success perhaps, and the individual could be too idealistic not able to cope up with the tacticl world today.> > > > as an attempt to just start off, from the timing i guess sun would be in the kumbha rashi in the 9th house with mithuna laga while jupiter could have been debilated in the 8th house while lord saturn could have been elevated alongwith ketu in the 5th house forming a neechabhanga rajayoga - career could start on a low note but with gradual progress and increases in salary and wealth/bank balances, moreover suggests earnings through death related matters like insurance, or a recovery agent - while could rise to advisory role in the future with lord saturn elevated in the 5th house for ministership.> > > > saturn elevated in the 5th as lord of the 9th alongwith ketu could give an ascetic philosophical attitude detached towards romance and not inclined to get married soon delaying the process with the 3rd aspect on the 7th house while the 7th lord jupiter is debilated and conservative in capricorn. saturn/ketu could prompt one to mentally repeat shiva/kalabhairava mantras with efficacy saturn being elevated.> > > > rahu in the 11th house could give income from foreign sources/foreigners may work for a multinational company/jv especially with jupiter's aspect on rahu from the 8th. with debilated jupiter as lord of the 10th could have unexpected sudden rise/fall in career.> > > > jupiter's aspect on the 2nd house of speech could give large melodious voice perhaps singing from the depths with sorrow while marriage partner could be reserved and conservative in speech, and could also be a humble school teacher too by profession to begin with to just indicate.> > > > may get less dowry in marriage or partner of humble financial conservative family status with 7th lord jupiter in the 8th house debilated while marriage partner could be a source of worry jupiter being badhaka for mithuna lagna as lord of the 7th while with saturn/ketu in the 5th could have disappointments in romance and difficulty in birth of children perhaps; rahu in the 7th fiery saggitarius could bring marriage alliances this year but could be a disappointing process. with 7th lord in the 8th debilated could promote mangalya dosha. > > > > father could have had a stressful start in life and could be a sacrificing mystique in his way of life with the sun in acquarius in the 9th making progress gradually with elevated lord saturn in the 5th trining the sun owing to his purvapunya; brother's health could have been affected with sun aspecting his own sign from the 7th opposite in inimical acquarius.> > > > current jupiter being badhaka and karaka for father moving over the natal sun sharing the karakatwa in the 9th could impact father's health this year 2010 while lord saturn is transit the 4th house from the ascendant 8th from the 9th house, while could be fairly good for higher education aspecting natal saturn in the 5th at the same time.> > > > hope this although regretfully incomplete sets the ball rolling and may provoke some interest,> > > > regards again,> > > > > > kshantaram> > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" mishra.lalit@ wrote:> > >> > > For group's study and research - > > > > > > Date of Birth: 12 March 1985,Tuesday, Time of Birth 01:45:00 pm , Place of Birth: Jaunpur , UP (India)> > > > > > regards,> > > Lalit Mishra> > >> >>

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Dear all,I have uploaded a file on Neech Bhanga Raja yoga, which is with examples. RgdsAjitkumaarrajvats62 <rajvats62Vedic Astrologyandhealing Sent: Tue, December 29, 2009 5:18:41 PM[Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: A Chart with 3 Debilitation

 

 

Shri Ajit Ji,

Namaste, I am desirous of learning how NeechaBhanga functions, If we understand Neecha Budha in poor learning, poor communication, lack of promptness and intelligence, should Sukra who is creating bhanga or cancellation, what manovering this Sukra induces in jataka's approach in a way neecha bhanga happens, I mean what's neechabhanga is in reality.

In the archives, I saw, Lalit ji has said that a shatru rashi gat ( placed in inimical signs signs) graha is more harmful then the neecha avastha grahas, that looks logical to me.

Pls tell us what you found in life of people with neechabahanga.

Sincerly,Raj

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Ajitkumar Benadi <ajitbenadi@. ..> wrote:>> Dear all,> As I have been requested to make comments , I have been virtually prompted. > As an aid , I am also posting the chart with exact coordintes from Google earth. > One request and /or suggestion. It makes things easier, when it is mentioned, whether the person concerned is male or female. > I never see a chart in isolation . Just because the chart has 3 debilitated planets, does not mean bad. In the concerned chart, debilitation of Mrecury has been cancelled by exalted planet Venus. Mars , the yoga karaka for cancer is in 10th, which is kendra, forming the Ruchaka Mahapurusha Yoga. Rahu is far away to reduce the strength of Mars. 5th house is occupied by Saturn retro and debilitated moon. The person will have basically mental

worries unless spiritually inclined. Mars has 8th aspect on this which a relief. Saturn in turn has 3rd aspect on debilitated Jupiter. Jupiter being in the 7th from Lagna,problem in marriage. Venus exalted in the 9th creates interest in dancing , music or even acting. Generally, all Lagnas except Mesha and Rishbha have problems in marriage. > > Regards> Ajitkumaar> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> rajvats62 rajvats62@.. .> Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com> Fri, December 25, 2009 8:24:38 AM> [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Re: A Chart with 3 Debilitation> > > Shri Shantaram Ji,> Namaste, Your post is thought provoking. Neecha Graha are simply ignored by most of us, but an experienced jyotishi can observe - > "Debilated planets are preferred in the kaliyuga requiring tactical skills and while aspecting their

opposite sign with elevation could give unexpected good impressive results, and if in neecha bhanga could be all the more better"> Sachin Tendulkar is born with 3 neecha grahas, his chart should be reviwed, We should give exclusive attention to charts with more no of neecha grahas, looking forward to Shri Ajit Ji and other experienced members to present their opinion on role of neecha grahas.> Sincerely,> Raj> > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "shantaram" <shantaramkhrd@ ...> wrote:> >> > regards,> > > > i may feeling impelled to respond may just mention here that debilated planets are preferred in the kaliyuga requiring tactical skills and while aspecting their opposite sign with elevation could give unexpected good impressive results, and if in neecha bhanga could be all the more better.> > > > uccha planets do indicate

maturity of the evolving soul but with debilated aspect on the opposite sign may not give worldly success perhaps, and the individual could be too idealistic not able to cope up with the tacticl world today.> > > > as an attempt to just start off, from the timing i guess sun would be in the kumbha rashi in the 9th house with mithuna laga while jupiter could have been debilated in the 8th house while lord saturn could have been elevated alongwith ketu in the 5th house forming a neechabhanga rajayoga - career could start on a low note but with gradual progress and increases in salary and wealth/bank balances, moreover suggests earnings through death related matters like insurance, or a recovery agent - while could rise to advisory role in the future with lord saturn elevated in the 5th house for ministership.> > > > saturn elevated in the 5th as lord of the 9th alongwith ketu could give an ascetic philosophical

attitude detached towards romance and not inclined to get married soon delaying the process with the 3rd aspect on the 7th house while the 7th lord jupiter is debilated and conservative in capricorn. saturn/ketu could prompt one to mentally repeat shiva/kalabhairava mantras with efficacy saturn being elevated.> > > > rahu in the 11th house could give income from foreign sources/foreigners may work for a multinational company/jv especially with jupiter's aspect on rahu from the 8th. with debilated jupiter as lord of the 10th could have unexpected sudden rise/fall in career.> > > > jupiter's aspect on the 2nd house of speech could give large melodious voice perhaps singing from the depths with sorrow while marriage partner could be reserved and conservative in speech, and could also be a humble school teacher too by profession to begin with to just indicate.> > > > may get less dowry in marriage

or partner of humble financial conservative family status with 7th lord jupiter in the 8th house debilated while marriage partner could be a source of worry jupiter being badhaka for mithuna lagna as lord of the 7th while with saturn/ketu in the 5th could have disappointments in romance and difficulty in birth of children perhaps; rahu in the 7th fiery saggitarius could bring marriage alliances this year but could be a disappointing process. with 7th lord in the 8th debilated could promote mangalya dosha. > > > > father could have had a stressful start in life and could be a sacrificing mystique in his way of life with the sun in acquarius in the 9th making progress gradually with elevated lord saturn in the 5th trining the sun owing to his purvapunya; brother's health could have been affected with sun aspecting his own sign from the 7th opposite in inimical acquarius.> > > > current jupiter being badhaka and

karaka for father moving over the natal sun sharing the karakatwa in the 9th could impact father's health this year 2010 while lord saturn is transit the 4th house from the ascendant 8th from the 9th house, while could be fairly good for higher education aspecting natal saturn in the 5th at the same time.> > > > hope this although regretfully incomplete sets the ball rolling and may provoke some interest,> > > > regards again,> > > > > > kshantaram> > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" mishra.lalit@ wrote:> > >> > > For group's study and research - > > > > > > Date of Birth: 12 March 1985,Tuesday, Time of Birth 01:45:00 pm , Place of Birth: Jaunpur , UP (India)> > > > > > regards,> > > Lalit Mishra> > >>

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Dear Sir V Krishnan Ji,

In the very first morning of first Jan2010, I have some informations to share with you and all, After I got this AP guy's chart, I decided to meet him, but somehow, he himself came to meet me, thus I got a chance to understand planetary impact minutely.

14-09-1968 @ 4.0 pm, Anakapaly, Andhra Pradesh - 83E01, 17N41

W'd be surprising to know that in Jup - Sat dashas 2nd part, When Jup and Saturn met in transit in Mesha in year 1999, this guy suffered badly, he almost got disabled, was bed ridden for almost 1.5 yrs, In his birth chart, Saturn is already in debility in 9'th house, and Jup is there in 2nd house on virgo, lagna is Leo. He said that he accepted his death to happen in bed ridden condition, we can understand what debility of saturn has done to him, at least physically.

During talks, he often mentioned that though, he got huge opportunities in profession but could not avail them, however, before 1999 only he had written scripts for 4-5 telugu movies and had earned enough, his total asset is now worth is rs 1 to 1.25 crore.

While in NZ, he has done a post graduate diploma in film direction and movie making, now, wishes to make another round of entry into film industry, he said his contacts are alive.

I like to read a person to uderstand how exactly planets are working on his life, this has been a good help indeed.

regards,Lalit Mishra

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:>> Dear Shri lalit Ji,> 1Point however take note is debilitation of one or two planets in any native chart does not mean he will be debilitated in real life too.After all real life it depends on lagna as the case you have mentioned.Born with a Golden spoon,as the Sun making his life bright financially.> If Lagna is energitic,all other debilitation for a person ready to face challenges,there will be no hurdles.> 2.Leo's have no bosses.Their reward lies in their organisational skills.As leaders,they never think of promotions.> Sun in Lagna in mercury's Aslesha if a blessing is not also very comfortable when it comes to his own personal matters.> 3.By the time of 2013,the native,the natives health will make him damp.Also his own coterie too do not keep company.All the support and help he provided looses significance.This will be a point for him to know about spirtuality,what ever might be reasons behind.> > >  > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services> (For all counseling services)> Dr.B.V.Raman"Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them"> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma>  > > --- On Sat, 12/26/09, litsol mishra.lalit wrote:> > > litsol mishra.lalit [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: A Chart with 3 Debilitation> Vedic Astrologyandhealing > Saturday, December 26, 2009, 6:55 AM> > >  > > > > > Dear All,> Mansagari is only classic that has an exclusive chapter on debilated planets, Author has collected several good qualities of debiliated planets, however, reasoning is left for readers to discover.> Luckily, I have got one more interesting horoscope with a certain degree of imbalance in it, > 14-09-1968 @ 4.0 pm, Anakapaly, Andhra Pradesh - 83E01, 17N41.> Two planets are in debility - Saturn in 9'th and Venus in 2nd house.> His Lagna (Leo) is is of .59 degrees but lagna lord Sun is placed in a distant corner at 27 degrees, He got a good job, made money but you w'd be surprised to know he has not got promoted in last 4 yrs, the success has come to him in terms of wealth and happiness but no position as of now, Still works as a Sr. consultant of SAP, moon is exalted in 10'th and as said lagna lord Sun is in lagna.> He has been in New Zealand since June 2004 to Dec 2008, even got full time residential visa for NZ.> His passion for movie making has been suppressed for a long time, I am still not sure what debilitated Saturn in 9'th though aspected by Jup from Lagna w'd do to him in upcoming Saturn dasa from 2013. > regards,> Lalit Mishra> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Vattem Krishnan bursar_99@ .> wrote:> >> > Dear Mr Raj and Shantaram,> > Neech planets as we know work according to signs and their lords.If Mangal get's debilitated it is 'coz cancer is a watery sign.It has also some good issues to provide.there are saints,seers and learned men who could really lead their life in pursuit of philosophy and relgion.> > There are other with saturn debilitated in fiery sign of aries could get acclaim and even laurels.> > like wise mercury in watery sign of pisces could make good lawyers and inventors and break through research.> > like wise jupiter in makara produced eminent men of principles and great administrators.> > Debilitation is an astronomical point where it is felt the planet in question is supposed to be weak.But other aspects of shadbal certainly add strength.> > If Sachin tendulkar has risen to heights,it is the combination of several planets that made him qnique.The position of lagna,moon and sun have always their pre eminence in the study og jyotish. > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > Cyber Jyotish Services> > (For all counseling services)> > Dr.B.V.Raman" Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them"> > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma> >  > > > > --- On Fri, 12/25/09, rajvats62 rajvats62@ . wrote:> > > > > > rajvats62 rajvats62@ .> > [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Re: A Chart with 3 Debilitation> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com> > Friday, December 25, 2009, 2:24 AM> > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Shri Shantaram Ji,> > Namaste, Your post is thought provoking. Neecha Graha are simply ignored by most of us, but an experienced jyotishi can observe - > > "Debilated planets are preferred in the kaliyuga requiring tactical skills and while aspecting their opposite sign with elevation could give unexpected good impressive results, and if in neecha bhanga could be all the more better"> > Sachin Tendulkar is born with 3 neecha grahas, his chart should be reviwed, We should give exclusive attention to charts with more no of neecha grahas, looking forward to Shri Ajit Ji and other experienced members to present their opinion on role of neecha grahas.> > Sincerely,> > Raj> >  > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "shantaram" <shantaramkhrd@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > regards,> > > > > > i may feeling impelled to respond may just mention here that debilated planets are preferred in the kaliyuga requiring tactical skills and while aspecting their opposite sign with elevation could give unexpected good impressive results, and if in neecha bhanga could be all the more better.> > > > > > uccha planets do indicate maturity of the evolving soul but with debilated aspect on the opposite sign may not give worldly success perhaps, and the individual could be too idealistic not able to cope up with the tacticl world today.> > > > > > as an attempt to just start off, from the timing i guess sun would be in the kumbha rashi in the 9th house with mithuna laga while jupiter could have been debilated in the 8th house while lord saturn could have been elevated alongwith ketu in the 5th house forming a neechabhanga rajayoga - career could start on a low note but with gradual progress and increases in salary and wealth/bank balances, moreover suggests earnings through death related matters like insurance, or a recovery agent - while could rise to advisory role in the future with lord saturn elevated in the 5th house for ministership.> > > > > > saturn elevated in the 5th as lord of the 9th alongwith ketu could give an ascetic philosophical attitude detached towards romance and not inclined to get married soon delaying the process with the 3rd aspect on the 7th house while the 7th lord jupiter is debilated and conservative in capricorn. saturn/ketu could prompt one to mentally repeat shiva/kalabhairava mantras with efficacy saturn being elevated.> > > > > > rahu in the 11th house could give income from foreign sources/foreigners may work for a multinational company/jv especially with jupiter's aspect on rahu from the 8th. with debilated jupiter as lord of the 10th could have unexpected sudden rise/fall in career.> > > > > > jupiter's aspect on the 2nd house of speech could give large melodious voice perhaps singing from the depths with sorrow while marriage partner could be reserved and conservative in speech, and could also be a humble school teacher too by profession to begin with to just indicate.> > > > > > may get less dowry in marriage or partner of humble financial conservative family status with 7th lord jupiter in the 8th house debilated while marriage partner could be a source of worry jupiter being badhaka for mithuna lagna as lord of the 7th while with saturn/ketu in the 5th could have disappointments in romance and difficulty in birth of children perhaps; rahu in the 7th fiery saggitarius could bring marriage alliances this year but could be a disappointing process. with 7th lord in the 8th debilated could promote mangalya dosha. > > > > > > father could have had a stressful start in life and could be a sacrificing mystique in his way of life with the sun in acquarius in the 9th making progress gradually with elevated lord saturn in the 5th trining the sun owing to his purvapunya; brother's health could have been affected with sun aspecting his own sign from the 7th opposite in inimical acquarius.> > > > > > current jupiter being badhaka and karaka for father moving over the natal sun sharing the karakatwa in the 9th could impact father's health this year 2010 while lord saturn is transit the 4th house from the ascendant 8th from the 9th house, while could be fairly good for higher education aspecting natal saturn in the 5th at the same time.> > > > > > hope this although regretfully incomplete sets the ball rolling and may provoke some interest,> > > > > > regards again,> > > > > > > > > kshantaram> > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" mishra.lalit@ wrote:> > > >> > > > For group's study and research - > > > > > > > > Date of Birth: 12 March 1985,Tuesday, Time of Birth 01:45:00 pm , Place of Birth: Jaunpur , UP (India)> > > > > > > > regards,> > > > Lalit Mishra> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Shri Lalit ji,

Jupiter-Saturn dasa period was found to be very trouble some for many people.it is due to affliction of jupiter as maha dasa lord.

2.For making a come back in films for the 2nd time,he should prolong his trials for ju-sa-ve dasa.

3.Even the kind of return depends on his 7th house influnece.

4.i agree that v understand all such aspects only when v personally discuss and ascertain the charts.

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman"Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them"

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

--- On Fri, 1/1/10, litsol <mishra.lalit wrote:

litsol <mishra.lalit[Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: A Chart with 3 DebilitationVedic Astrologyandhealing Date: Friday, January 1, 2010, 1:47 AM

 

Dear Sir V Krishnan Ji,

In the very first morning of first Jan2010, I have some informations to share with you and all, After I got this AP guy's chart, I decided to meet him, but somehow, he himself came to meet me, thus I got a chance to understand planetary impact minutely.

14-09-1968 @ 4.0 pm, Anakapaly, Andhra Pradesh - 83E01, 17N41

W'd be surprising to know that in Jup - Sat dashas 2nd part, When Jup and Saturn met in transit in Mesha in year 1999, this guy suffered badly, he almost got disabled, was bed ridden for almost 1.5 yrs, In his birth chart, Saturn is already in debility in 9'th house, and Jup is there in 2nd house on virgo, lagna is Leo. He said that he accepted his death to happen in bed ridden condition, we can understand what debility of saturn has done to him, at least physically.

During talks, he often mentioned that though, he got huge opportunities in profession but could not avail them, however, before 1999 only he had written scripts for 4-5 telugu movies and had earned enough, his total asset is now worth is rs 1 to 1.25 crore.

While in NZ, he has done a post graduate diploma in film direction and movie making, now, wishes to make another round of entry into film industry, he said his contacts are alive.

I like to read a person to uderstand how exactly planets are working on his life, this has been a good help indeed.

regards,Lalit Mishra

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s..com, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@.. .> wrote:>> Dear Shri lalit Ji,> 1Point however take note is debilitation of one or two planets in any native chart does not mean he will be debilitated in real life too.After all real life it depends on lagna as the case you have mentioned.Born with a Golden spoon,as the Sun making his life bright financially.> If Lagna is energitic,all other debilitation for a person ready to face challenges,there will be no hurdles.> 2.Leo's have no bosses.Their reward lies in their organisational skills.As leaders,they never think of promotions.> Sun in Lagna in mercury's Aslesha if a blessing is not also very comfortable when it comes to his own personal matters.> 3.By the time of 2013,the native,the natives health will make him damp.Also his own coterie too do not keep company.All the support and help he

provided looses significance. This will be a point for him to know about spirtuality, what ever might be reasons behind.> > >  > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services> (For all counseling services)> Dr.B.V.Raman" Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them"> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma>  > > --- On Sat, 12/26/09, litsol mishra.lalit@ ... wrote:> > > litsol mishra.lalit@ ...> [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Re: A Chart with 3 Debilitation> Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com> Saturday, December 26, 2009, 6:55 AM> > >  > > > > > Dear All,> Mansagari is only classic that has an exclusive chapter on debilated planets, Author has collected several good qualities of debiliated

planets, however, reasoning is left for readers to discover.> Luckily, I have got one more interesting horoscope with a certain degree of imbalance in it, > 14-09-1968 @ 4.0 pm, Anakapaly, Andhra Pradesh - 83E01, 17N41.> Two planets are in debility - Saturn in 9'th and Venus in 2nd house.> His Lagna (Leo) is is of .59 degrees but lagna lord Sun is placed in a distant corner at 27 degrees, He got a good job, made money but you w'd be surprised to know he has not got promoted in last 4 yrs, the success has come to him in terms of wealth and happiness but no position as of now, Still works as a Sr. consultant of SAP, moon is exalted in 10'th and as said lagna lord Sun is in lagna.> He has been in New Zealand since June 2004 to Dec 2008, even got full time residential visa for NZ.> His passion for movie making has been suppressed for a long time, I am still not sure what

debilitated Saturn in 9'th though aspected by Jup from Lagna w'd do to him in upcoming Saturn dasa from 2013. > regards,> Lalit Mishra> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Vattem Krishnan bursar_99@ .> wrote:> >> > Dear Mr Raj and Shantaram,> > Neech planets as we know work according to signs and their lords.If Mangal get's debilitated it is 'coz cancer is a watery sign.It has also some good issues to provide.there are saints,seers and learned men who could really lead their life in pursuit of philosophy and relgion..> > There are other with saturn debilitated in fiery sign of aries could get acclaim and even laurels.> > like wise mercury in watery sign of pisces could make good lawyers and inventors and break through research.> > like wise jupiter in makara produced eminent men of principles and great administrators.> > Debilitation is

an astronomical point where it is felt the planet in question is supposed to be weak.But other aspects of shadbal certainly add strength.> > If Sachin tendulkar has risen to heights,it is the combination of several planets that made him qnique.The position of lagna,moon and sun have always their pre eminence in the study og jyotish. > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > Cyber Jyotish Services> > (For all counseling services)> > Dr..B.V.Raman" Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them"> > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma> >  > > > > --- On Fri, 12/25/09, rajvats62 rajvats62@ . wrote:> > > > > > rajvats62 rajvats62@ .> > [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Re: A Chart with 3 Debilitation> > Vedic Astrologyandhe

aling@ s.com> > Friday, December 25, 2009, 2:24 AM> > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Shri Shantaram Ji,> > Namaste, Your post is thought provoking. Neecha Graha are simply ignored by most of us, but an experienced jyotishi can observe - > > "Debilated planets are preferred in the kaliyuga requiring tactical skills and while aspecting their opposite sign with elevation could give unexpected good impressive results, and if in neecha bhanga could be all the more better"> > Sachin Tendulkar is born with 3 neecha grahas, his chart should be reviwed, We should give exclusive attention to charts with more no of neecha grahas, looking forward to Shri Ajit Ji and other experienced members to present their opinion on role of

neecha grahas.> > Sincerely,> > Raj> >  > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "shantaram" <shantaramkhrd@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > regards,> > > > > > i may feeling impelled to respond may just mention here that debilated planets are preferred in the kaliyuga requiring tactical skills and while aspecting their opposite sign with elevation could give unexpected good impressive results, and if in neecha bhanga could be all the more better.> > > > > > uccha planets do indicate maturity of the evolving soul but with debilated aspect on the opposite sign may not give worldly success perhaps, and the individual could be too idealistic not able to cope up with the tacticl world today.> > > > > > as an attempt to just start off, from the timing i guess sun would be in the

kumbha rashi in the 9th house with mithuna laga while jupiter could have been debilated in the 8th house while lord saturn could have been elevated alongwith ketu in the 5th house forming a neechabhanga rajayoga - career could start on a low note but with gradual progress and increases in salary and wealth/bank balances, moreover suggests earnings through death related matters like insurance, or a recovery agent - while could rise to advisory role in the future with lord saturn elevated in the 5th house for ministership.> > > > > > saturn elevated in the 5th as lord of the 9th alongwith ketu could give an ascetic philosophical attitude detached towards romance and not inclined to get married soon delaying the process with the 3rd aspect on the 7th house while the 7th lord jupiter is debilated and conservative in capricorn. saturn/ketu could prompt one to mentally repeat shiva/kalabhairava mantras with efficacy saturn being

elevated.> > > > > > rahu in the 11th house could give income from foreign sources/foreigners may work for a multinational company/jv especially with jupiter's aspect on rahu from the 8th. with debilated jupiter as lord of the 10th could have unexpected sudden rise/fall in career.> > > > > > jupiter's aspect on the 2nd house of speech could give large melodious voice perhaps singing from the depths with sorrow while marriage partner could be reserved and conservative in speech, and could also be a humble school teacher too by profession to begin with to just indicate.> > > > > > may get less dowry in marriage or partner of humble financial conservative family status with 7th lord jupiter in the 8th house debilated while marriage partner could be a source of worry jupiter being badhaka for mithuna lagna as lord of the 7th while with saturn/ketu in the 5th could have

disappointments in romance and difficulty in birth of children perhaps; rahu in the 7th fiery saggitarius could bring marriage alliances this year but could be a disappointing process. with 7th lord in the 8th debilated could promote mangalya dosha. > > > > > > father could have had a stressful start in life and could be a sacrificing mystique in his way of life with the sun in acquarius in the 9th making progress gradually with elevated lord saturn in the 5th trining the sun owing to his purvapunya; brother's health could have been affected with sun aspecting his own sign from the 7th opposite in inimical acquarius.> > > > > > current jupiter being badhaka and karaka for father moving over the natal sun sharing the karakatwa in the 9th could impact father's health this year 2010 while lord saturn is transit the 4th house from the ascendant 8th from the 9th house, while could be fairly good for higher

education aspecting natal saturn in the 5th at the same time.> > > > > > hope this although regretfully incomplete sets the ball rolling and may provoke some interest,> > > > > > regards again,> > > > > > > > > kshantaram> > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" mishra.lalit@ wrote:> > > >> > > > For group's study and research - > > > > > > > > Date of Birth: 12 March 1985,Tuesday, Time of Birth 01:45:00 pm , Place of Birth: Jaunpur , UP (India)> > > > > > > > regards,> > > > Lalit Mishra> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Mr Lalit and grp,Happy New Year! In presented chart Ju(N) in 8th,Sa(N) 8th to

8th(bhava chelti),in transit Ra was over 8th in bhava chelti,and Sa was near

natal Sa in bhava chelti,it is gud ju helped in making ill bt same Ju in

transit saved him, i dont consider combust Ju as gud... Angelina

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <mishra.lalit

wrote:

> Dear Sir V Krishnan Ji,

>

> In the very first morning of first Jan2010, I have some informations to

> share with you and all, After I got this AP guy's chart, I decided to

> meet him, but somehow, he himself came to meet me, thus I got a chance

> to understand planetary impact minutely.

>

> 14-09-1968 @ 4.0 pm, Anakapaly, Andhra Pradesh - 83E01, 17N41

>

> W'd be surprising to know that in Jup - Sat dashas 2nd part, When Jup

> and Saturn met in transit in Mesha in year 1999, this guy suffered

> badly, he almost got disabled, was bed ridden for almost 1.5 yrs, In his

> birth chart, Saturn is already in debility in 9'th house, and Jup is

> there in 2nd house on virgo, lagna is Leo. He said that he accepted his

> death to happen in bed ridden condition, we can understand what debility

> of saturn has done to him, at least physically.

>

> During talks, he often mentioned that though, he got huge opportunities

> in profession but could not avail them, however, before 1999 only he had

> written scripts for 4-5 telugu movies and had earned enough, his total

> asset is now worth is rs 1 to 1.25 crore.

>

> While in NZ, he has done a post graduate diploma in film direction and

> movie making, now, wishes to make another round of entry into film

> industry, he said his contacts are alive.

>

> I like to read a person to uderstand how exactly planets are working on

> his life, this has been a good help indeed.

>

> regards,

> Lalit Mishra

 

> > Dear Shri lalit Ji,

> > 1Point however take note is debilitation of one or two planets in any

> native chart does not mean he will be debilitated in real life too.After

> all real life it depends on lagna as the case you have mentioned.Born

> with a Golden spoon,as the Sun making his life bright financially.

> > If Lagna is energitic,all other debilitation for a person ready to

> face challenges,there will be no hurdles.

> > 2.Leo's have no bosses.Their reward lies in their organisational

> skills.As leaders,they never think of promotions.

> > Sun in Lagna in mercury's Aslesha if a blessing is not also very

> comfortable when it comes to his own personal matters.

> > 3.By the time of 2013,the native,the natives health will make him

> damp.Also his own coterie too do not keep company.All the support and

> help he provided looses significance.This will be a point for him to

> know about spirtuality,what ever might be reasons behind.

> >

> >

> > Â

> > Vattem Krishnan

> > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > (For all counseling services)

> > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

> Them "

> > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> > Â

> >

> > --- On Sat, 12/26/09, litsol mishra.lalit@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > litsol mishra.lalit@

> > [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: A Chart with 3 Debilitation

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing

> > Saturday, December 26, 2009, 6:55 AM

> >

> >

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear All,

> > Mansagari is only classic that has an exclusive chapter on debilated

> planets, Author has collected several good qualities of debiliated

> planets, however, reasoning is left for readers to discover.

> > Luckily, I have got one more interesting horoscope with a certain

> degree of imbalance in it,

> > 14-09-1968 @ 4.0 pm, Anakapaly, Andhra Pradesh - 83E01, 17N41.

> > Two planets are in debility - Saturn in 9'th and Venus in 2nd house.

> > His Lagna (Leo) is is of .59 degrees but lagna lord Sun is

> placed in a distant corner at 27 degrees, He got a good job,

> made money but you w'd be surprised to know he has not got promoted in

> last 4 yrs, the success has come to him in terms of wealth and happiness

> but no position as of now, Still works as a Sr. consultant of SAP, moon

> is exalted in 10'th and as said lagna lord Sun is in lagna.

> > He has been in New Zealand since June 2004 to Dec 2008, even

> got full time residential visa for NZ.

> > His passion for movie making has been suppressed for a long time, I am

> still not sure what debilitated Saturn in 9'th though aspected by Jup

> from Lagna w'd do to him in upcoming Saturn dasa from 2013.

> > regards,

> > Lalit Mishra

> >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Vattem Krishnan

> bursar_99@ .> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mr Raj and Shantaram,

> > > Neech planets as we know work according to signs and their lords.If

> Mangal get's debilitated it is 'coz cancer is a watery sign.

[Guest guest]

Dear Angelina,

I am sorry . I am late to participate.

The data given gives Makara lagna at 4pm i.e. 16hrs. If we take 4am the lagna is Leo. Please correct.

Regards--- On Sun, 1/3/10, Angelina <angelina.joliee85 wrote:

Angelina <angelina.joliee85[Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: A Chart with 3 DebilitationVedic Astrologyandhealing Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 5:25 AM

Mr Lalit and grp,Happy New Year! In presented chart Ju(N) in 8th,Sa(N) 8th to 8th(bhava chelti),in transit Ra was over 8th in bhava chelti,and Sa was near natal Sa in bhava chelti,it is gud ju helped in making ill bt same Ju in transit saved him, i dont consider combust Ju as gud... Angelina Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" <mishra.lalit@ ...> wrote:> Dear Sir V Krishnan Ji,> > In the very first morning of first Jan2010, I have some informations to> share with you and all, After I got this AP guy's chart, I decided to> meet him, but somehow, he himself came to meet me, thus I got a chance> to understand planetary impact minutely.> > 14-09-1968 @ 4.0 pm, Anakapaly,

Andhra Pradesh - 83E01, 17N41> > W'd be surprising to know that in Jup - Sat dashas 2nd part, When Jup> and Saturn met in transit in Mesha in year 1999, this guy suffered> badly, he almost got disabled, was bed ridden for almost 1.5 yrs, In his> birth chart, Saturn is already in debility in 9'th house, and Jup is> there in 2nd house on virgo, lagna is Leo. He said that he accepted his> death to happen in bed ridden condition, we can understand what debility> of saturn has done to him, at least physically.> > During talks, he often mentioned that though, he got huge opportunities> in profession but could not avail them, however, before 1999 only he had> written scripts for 4-5 telugu movies and had earned enough, his total> asset is now worth is rs 1 to 1.25 crore.>> While in NZ, he has done a post graduate diploma in film direction and> movie

making, now, wishes to make another round of entry into film> industry, he said his contacts are alive.> > I like to read a person to uderstand how exactly planets are working on> his life, this has been a good help indeed.> > regards,> Lalit Mishra> > Dear Shri lalit Ji,> > 1Point however take note is debilitation of one or two planets in any> native chart does not mean he will be debilitated in real life too.After> all real life it depends on lagna as the case you have mentioned.Born> with a Golden spoon,as the Sun making his life bright financially.> > If Lagna is energitic,all other debilitation for a person ready to> face challenges,there will be no hurdles.> > 2.Leo's have no bosses.Their reward lies in their organisational> skills.As leaders,they never think of promotions.> > Sun in Lagna in mercury's Aslesha

if a blessing is not also very> comfortable when it comes to his own personal matters.> > 3.By the time of 2013,the native,the natives health will make him> damp.Also his own coterie too do not keep company.All the support and> help he provided looses significance. This will be a point for him to> know about spirtuality, what ever might be reasons behind.> >> >> > Â> > Vattem Krishnan> > Cyber Jyotish Services> > (For all counseling services)> > Dr.B.V.Raman" Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control> Them"> > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma> > Â> >> > --- On Sat, 12/26/09, litsol mishra.lalit@ wrote:> >> >> > litsol mishra.lalit@> > [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Re: A Chart with 3 Debilitation> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com> > Saturday, December 26, 2009, 6:55 AM> >> >> > Â> >> >> >> >> > Dear All,> > Mansagari is only classic that has an exclusive chapter on debilated> planets, Author has collected several good qualities of debiliated> planets, however, reasoning is left for readers to discover.> > Luckily, I have got one more interesting horoscope with a certain> degree of imbalance in it,> > 14-09-1968 @ 4.0 pm, Anakapaly, Andhra Pradesh - 83E01, 17N41.> > Two planets are in debility - Saturn in 9'th and Venus in 2nd house.> > His Lagna (Leo) is is of .59 degrees but lagna

lord Sun is> placed in a distant corner at 27 degrees, He got a good job,> made money but you w'd be surprised to know he has not got promoted in> last 4 yrs, the success has come to him in terms of wealth and happiness> but no position as of now, Still works as a Sr. consultant of SAP, moon> is exalted in 10'th and as said lagna lord Sun is in lagna.> > He has been in New Zealand since June 2004 to Dec 2008, even> got full time residential visa for NZ.> > His passion for movie making has been suppressed for a long time, I am> still not sure what debilitated Saturn in 9'th though aspected by Jup> from Lagna w'd do to him in upcoming Saturn dasa from 2013.> > regards,> > Lalit Mishra> >> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Vattem Krishnan> bursar_99@ .> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Mr

Raj and Shantaram,> > > Neech planets as we know work according to signs and their lords.If> Mangal get's debilitated it is 'coz cancer is a watery sign.

[Guest guest]

Mr SC,I took Birth Time 4PM,Sa is also on Bhava Sendi degrees Angelina

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " S.C. Kursija " <sckursija

wrote:

>

> Dear Angelina,

> I am sorry . I am late to participate.

> The data given gives Makara lagna at 4pm i.e. 16hrs. If we take 4am the lagna

is Leo. Please correct.

> Regards

>

> --- On Sun, 1/3/10, Angelina <angelina.joliee85 wrote:

>

>

> Angelina <angelina.joliee85

> [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: A Chart with 3 Debilitation

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing

> Sunday, January 3, 2010, 5:25 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Mr Lalit and grp,Happy New Year! In presented chart Ju(N) in 8th,Sa(N) 8th to

8th(bhava chelti),in transit Ra was over 8th in bhava chelti,and Sa was near

natal Sa in bhava chelti,it is gud ju helped in making ill bt same Ju in transit

saved him, i dont consider combust Ju as gud... Angelina

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " litsol " <mishra.lalit@

....> wrote:

> > Dear Sir V Krishnan Ji,

> >

> > In the very first morning of first Jan2010, I have some informations to

> > share with you and all, After I got this AP guy's chart, I decided to

> > meet him, but somehow, he himself came to meet me, thus I got a chance

> > to understand planetary impact minutely.

> >

> > 14-09-1968 @ 4.0 pm, Anakapaly, Andhra Pradesh - 83E01, 17N41

> >

> > W'd be surprising to know that in Jup - Sat dashas 2nd part, When Jup

> > and Saturn met in transit in Mesha in year 1999, this guy suffered

> > badly, he almost got disabled, was bed ridden for almost 1.5 yrs, In his

> > birth chart, Saturn is already in debility in 9'th house, and Jup is

> > there in 2nd house on virgo, lagna is Leo. He said that he accepted his

> > death to happen in bed ridden condition, we can understand what debility

> > of saturn has done to him, at least physically.

> >

> > During talks, he often mentioned that though, he got huge opportunities

> > in profession but could not avail them, however, before 1999 only he had

> > written scripts for 4-5 telugu movies and had earned enough, his total

> > asset is now worth is rs 1 to 1.25 crore.

> >

> > While in NZ, he has done a post graduate diploma in film direction and

> > movie making, now, wishes to make another round of entry into film

> > industry, he said his contacts are alive.

> >

> > I like to read a person to uderstand how exactly planets are working on

> > his life, this has been a good help indeed.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit Mishra

>

> > > Dear Shri lalit Ji,

> > > 1Point however take note is debilitation of one or two planets in any

> > native chart does not mean he will be debilitated in real life too.After

> > all real life it depends on lagna as the case you have mentioned.Born

> > with a Golden spoon,as the Sun making his life bright financially.

> > > If Lagna is energitic,all other debilitation for a person ready to

> > face challenges,there will be no hurdles.

> > > 2.Leo's have no bosses.Their reward lies in their organisational

> > skills.As leaders,they never think of promotions.

> > > Sun in Lagna in mercury's Aslesha if a blessing is not also very

> > comfortable when it comes to his own personal matters.

> > > 3.By the time of 2013,the native,the natives health will make him

> > damp.Also his own coterie too do not keep company.All the support and

> > help he provided looses significance. This will be a point for him to

> > know about spirtuality, what ever might be reasons behind.

> > >

> > >

> > > Â

> > > Vattem Krishnan

> > > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > > (For all counseling services)

> > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

> > Them "

> > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> > > Â

> > >

> > > --- On Sat, 12/26/09, litsol mishra.lalit@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > litsol mishra.lalit@

> > > [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Re: A Chart with 3 Debilitation

> > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com

> > > Saturday, December 26, 2009, 6:55 AM

> > >

> > >

> > > Â

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > > Mansagari is only classic that has an exclusive chapter on debilated

> > planets, Author has collected several good qualities of debiliated

> > planets, however, reasoning is left for readers to discover.

> > > Luckily, I have got one more interesting horoscope with a certain

> > degree of imbalance in it,

> > > 14-09-1968 @ 4.0 pm, Anakapaly, Andhra Pradesh - 83E01, 17N41.

> > > Two planets are in debility - Saturn in 9'th and Venus in 2nd house.

> > > His Lagna (Leo) is is of .59 degrees but lagna lord Sun is

> > placed in a distant corner at 27 degrees, He got a good job,

> > made money but you w'd be surprised to know he has not got promoted in

> > last 4 yrs, the success has come to him in terms of wealth and happiness

[Guest guest]

Mr SC,I took Birth Time 4PM,Sa is also on Bhava Sendi degrees Angelina

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " S.C. Kursija " <sckursija

wrote:

>

> Dear Angelina,

> I am sorry . I am late to participate.

> The data given gives Makara lagna at 4pm i.e. 16hrs. If we take 4am the lagna

is Leo. Please correct.

> Regards

>

> --- On Sun, 1/3/10, Angelina <angelina.joliee85 wrote:

>

>

> Angelina <angelina.joliee85

> [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: A Chart with 3 Debilitation

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing

> Sunday, January 3, 2010, 5:25 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Mr Lalit and grp,Happy New Year! In presented chart Ju(N) in 8th,Sa(N) 8th to

8th(bhava chelti),in transit Ra was over 8th in bhava chelti,and Sa was near

natal Sa in bhava chelti,it is gud ju helped in making ill bt same Ju in transit

saved him, i dont consider combust Ju as gud... Angelina

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, " litsol " <mishra.lalit@

....> wrote:

> > Dear Sir V Krishnan Ji,

> >

> > In the very first morning of first Jan2010, I have some informations to

> > share with you and all, After I got this AP guy's chart, I decided to

> > meet him, but somehow, he himself came to meet me, thus I got a chance

> > to understand planetary impact minutely.

> >

> > 14-09-1968 @ 4.0 pm, Anakapaly, Andhra Pradesh - 83E01, 17N41

> >

> > W'd be surprising to know that in Jup - Sat dashas 2nd part, When Jup

> > and Saturn met in transit in Mesha in year 1999, this guy suffered

> > badly, he almost got disabled, was bed ridden for almost 1.5 yrs, In his

> > birth chart, Saturn is already in debility in 9'th house, and Jup is

> > there in 2nd house on virgo, lagna is Leo. He said that he accepted his

> > death to happen in bed ridden condition, we can understand what debility

> > of saturn has done to him, at least physically.

> >

> > During talks, he often mentioned that though, he got huge opportunities

> > in profession but could not avail them, however, before 1999 only he had

> > written scripts for 4-5 telugu movies and had earned enough, his total

> > asset is now worth is rs 1 to 1.25 crore.

> >

> > While in NZ, he has done a post graduate diploma in film direction and

> > movie making, now, wishes to make another round of entry into film

> > industry, he said his contacts are alive.

> >

> > I like to read a person to uderstand how exactly planets are working on

> > his life, this has been a good help indeed.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit Mishra

>

> > > Dear Shri lalit Ji,

> > > 1Point however take note is debilitation of one or two planets in any

> > native chart does not mean he will be debilitated in real life too.After

> > all real life it depends on lagna as the case you have mentioned.Born

> > with a Golden spoon,as the Sun making his life bright financially.

> > > If Lagna is energitic,all other debilitation for a person ready to

> > face challenges,there will be no hurdles.

> > > 2.Leo's have no bosses.Their reward lies in their organisational

> > skills.As leaders,they never think of promotions.

> > > Sun in Lagna in mercury's Aslesha if a blessing is not also very

> > comfortable when it comes to his own personal matters.

> > > 3.By the time of 2013,the native,the natives health will make him

> > damp.Also his own coterie too do not keep company.All the support and

> > help he provided looses significance. This will be a point for him to

> > know about spirtuality, what ever might be reasons behind.

> > >

> > >

> > > Â

> > > Vattem Krishnan

> > > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > > (For all counseling services)

> > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

> > Them "

> > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> > > Â

> > >

> > > --- On Sat, 12/26/09, litsol mishra.lalit@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > litsol mishra.lalit@

> > > [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Re: A Chart with 3 Debilitation

> > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com

> > > Saturday, December 26, 2009, 6:55 AM

> > >

> > >

> > > Â

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > > Mansagari is only classic that has an exclusive chapter on debilated

> > planets, Author has collected several good qualities of debiliated

> > planets, however, reasoning is left for readers to discover.

> > > Luckily, I have got one more interesting horoscope with a certain

> > degree of imbalance in it,

> > > 14-09-1968 @ 4.0 pm, Anakapaly, Andhra Pradesh - 83E01, 17N41.

> > > Two planets are in debility - Saturn in 9'th and Venus in 2nd house.

> > > His Lagna (Leo) is is of .59 degrees but lagna lord Sun is

> > placed in a distant corner at 27 degrees, He got a good job,

> > made money but you w'd be surprised to know he has not got promoted in

> > last 4 yrs, the success has come to him in terms of wealth and happiness

[Guest guest]

Dear friends,

Apart from venus debilitation,v find saturn in aries and is in bhva sandhi,Moon and Mercury both in exaltation sign are in close proximity by way of degrees.

Lagna lord saturn in 4th is retrograde in natal chart and is with mars in mesha navamsa that led to his ill health as well as for making him to find alternative fields for his earning.in this case.This position must account for his amassing income as well as his present struggles.

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman"Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them"

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

--- On Sun, 1/3/10, Angelina <angelina.joliee85 wrote:

Angelina <angelina.joliee85[Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: A Chart with 3 DebilitationVedic Astrologyandhealing Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 7:52 AM

Mr SC,I took Birth Time 4PM,Sa is also on Bhava Sendi degrees Angelina Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "S.C. Kursija" <sckursija@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Angelina,> I am sorry . I am late to participate.> The data given gives Makara lagna at 4pm i.e. 16hrs. If we take 4am the lagna is Leo. Please correct.> Regards> > --- On Sun, 1/3/10, Angelina <angelina.joliee85@ ...> wrote:> > > Angelina <angelina.joliee85@ ...>> [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Re: A Chart with 3 Debilitation> Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com> Sunday, January 3, 2010, 5:25 AM> > > Â > > > > Mr Lalit and grp,Happy New Year! In presented chart Ju(N) in 8th,Sa(N) 8th to 8th(bhava chelti),in transit Ra was over 8th in bhava chelti,and Sa was near natal Sa in bhava chelti,it is gud ju helped in making ill bt same Ju in transit saved him, i dont consider combust Ju as gud... Angelina > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, "litsol" <mishra.lalit@ ...> wrote:> > Dear Sir V Krishnan Ji,> > > > In the very first morning of first Jan2010, I have some informations to> > share with you and all, After I got this AP guy's chart, I decided to> > meet him, but somehow, he himself came to meet me, thus I got a chance> > to understand

planetary impact minutely.> > > > 14-09-1968 @ 4.0 pm, Anakapaly, Andhra Pradesh - 83E01, 17N41> > > > W'd be surprising to know that in Jup - Sat dashas 2nd part, When Jup> > and Saturn met in transit in Mesha in year 1999, this guy suffered> > badly, he almost got disabled, was bed ridden for almost 1.5 yrs, In his> > birth chart, Saturn is already in debility in 9'th house, and Jup is> > there in 2nd house on virgo, lagna is Leo. He said that he accepted his> > death to happen in bed ridden condition, we can understand what debility> > of saturn has done to him, at least physically.> > > > During talks, he often mentioned that though, he got huge opportunities> > in profession but could not avail them, however, before 1999 only he had> > written scripts for 4-5 telugu movies and had earned enough, his

total> > asset is now worth is rs 1 to 1.25 crore.> >> > While in NZ, he has done a post graduate diploma in film direction and> > movie making, now, wishes to make another round of entry into film> > industry, he said his contacts are alive.> > > > I like to read a person to uderstand how exactly planets are working on> > his life, this has been a good help indeed.> > > > regards,> > Lalit Mishra> > > > Dear Shri lalit Ji,> > > 1Point however take note is debilitation of one or two planets in any> > native chart does not mean he will be debilitated in real life too.After> > all real life it depends on lagna as the case you have mentioned.Born> > with a Golden spoon,as the Sun making his life bright financially.> > > If Lagna is energitic,all other debilitation for a

person ready to> > face challenges,there will be no hurdles.> > > 2.Leo's have no bosses.Their reward lies in their organisational> > skills.As leaders,they never think of promotions.> > > Sun in Lagna in mercury's Aslesha if a blessing is not also very> > comfortable when it comes to his own personal matters.> > > 3.By the time of 2013,the native,the natives health will make him> > damp.Also his own coterie too do not keep company.All the support and> > help he provided looses significance. This will be a point for him to> > know about spirtuality, what ever might be reasons behind.> > >> > >> > > Â> > > Vattem Krishnan> > > Cyber Jyotish Services> > > (For all counseling services)> > > Dr.B.V.Raman" Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can

Control> > Them"> > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma> > > Â> > >> > > --- On Sat, 12/26/09, litsol mishra.lalit@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > litsol mishra.lalit@> > > [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Re: A Chart with 3 Debilitation> > > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com> > > Saturday, December 26, 2009, 6:55 AM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear All,> > > Mansagari is only classic that has an exclusive chapter on debilated> > planets, Author has collected several good qualities of debiliated> > planets, however, reasoning is left for readers to discover.> > > Luckily, I have got one more interesting

horoscope with a certain> > degree of imbalance in it,> > > 14-09-1968 @ 4.0 pm, Anakapaly, Andhra Pradesh - 83E01, 17N41.> > > Two planets are in debility - Saturn in 9'th and Venus in 2nd house.> > > His Lagna (Leo) is is of .59 degrees but lagna lord Sun is> > placed in a distant corner at 27 degrees, He got a good job,> > made money but you w'd be surprised to know he has not got promoted in> > last 4 yrs, the success has come to him in terms of wealth and happiness